Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
GEDCOM is the source of the problem, but I have long advocated that an optional workaround could be provided in Legacy. In fact, this is near the top of my list of things I would like to see in a major new release. Since Legacy already knows how to format (for reports) the various master and detail fields of a SW source, it seems to me that the programming effort would not be overwhelming to similarly format those fields into a Basic-style source in the GEDCOM export. Yes, this would flatten out the sources such that there is no effective hierarchy of master and detail, but at least such sources would be readable in the system that imports the GEDCOM. Right now, they appear rather scrambled (depending on the template type). Ward From: Walt Quering Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool I may misunderstand the issue, but, from what I've seen, the problem is a GEDCOM problem, not a Legacy problem. The aging GEDCOM model has only so many fields for citations and dumps data from unrecognized fields in the software of origin into its note fields. Back when Legacy was the only software with detailed templates for sources, this impacted only Legacy, but other programs now also have detailed templates, so it impacts them as well. I've seen similar situations in other arenas, and, while the problems are not insurmountable, neither are they inexpensive. They also require that all parties involved cooperate. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I know very little about the use of GEDCOM, it either works for me or it doesn't. Granted GEDCOM development is always behind the times. I understand backward compatibility is always a challenge. Even so, since Millennia created Sourcewriter shouldn't they be responsible to create a workaround algorithm to export the appropriate fields into current GEDCOM fields? Even if most of the information might wind up in a notes field at least the information would available on the import end, although maybe not as useful as if it had proper GEDCOM fields. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Legacy file, but still would not help if you were trying to send someone a gedcom to import into their genealogy program. CE From: johnberna...@tadaust.org.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:35:26 +1000 I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John From: CE WOOD Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Ward etal, I will propose a new feature regarding SourceWriter and GEDCOM but due to the current v8 schedule it will have to wait till later as it will require too much programming at this time. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote: GEDCOM is the source of the problem, but I have long advocated that an optional workaround could be provided in Legacy. In fact, this is near the top of my list of things I would like to see in a major new release. Since Legacy already knows how to format (for reports) the various master and detail fields of a SW source, it seems to me that the programming effort would not be overwhelming to similarly format those fields into a Basic-style source in the GEDCOM export. Yes, this would flatten out the sources such that there is no effective hierarchy of master and detail, but at least such sources would be readable in the system that imports the GEDCOM. Right now, they appear rather scrambled (depending on the template type). Ward *From:* Walt Quering waltsro...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:43 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool I may misunderstand the issue, but, from what I've seen, the problem is a GEDCOM problem, not a Legacy problem. The aging GEDCOM model has only so many fields for citations and dumps data from unrecognized fields in the software of origin into its note fields. Back when Legacy was the only software with detailed templates for sources, this impacted only Legacy, but other programs now also have detailed templates, so it impacts them as well. I've seen similar situations in other arenas, and, while the problems are not insurmountable, neither are they inexpensive. They also require that all parties involved cooperate. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I know very little about the use of GEDCOM, it either works for me or it doesn't. Granted GEDCOM development is always behind the times. I understand backward compatibility is always a challenge. Even so, since Millennia created Sourcewriter shouldn't they be responsible to create a workaround algorithm to export the appropriate fields into current GEDCOM fields? Even if most of the information might wind up in a notes field at least the information would available on the import end, although maybe not as useful as if it had proper GEDCOM fields. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Legacy file, but still would not help if you were trying to send someone a gedcom to import into their genealogy program. CE -- From: johnberna...@tadaust.org.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:35:26 +1000 I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John *From:* CE WOOD wood...@msn.com *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE -- From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Larry, You say that as if your are an insider who knows what is already in V8. Are you? This issue has come up on the list several times over the last few years. I was hoping that the V8 developers had already given it some consideration. But if you have some pull, please go for it. It is the type of feature that can be added in a minor release, too. Ward From: Larry Lee Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Ward etal, I will propose a new feature regarding SourceWriter and GEDCOM but due to the current v8 schedule it will have to wait till later as it will require too much programming at this time. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote: GEDCOM is the source of the problem, but I have long advocated that an optional workaround could be provided in Legacy. In fact, this is near the top of my list of things I would like to see in a major new release. Since Legacy already knows how to format (for reports) the various master and detail fields of a SW source, it seems to me that the programming effort would not be overwhelming to similarly format those fields into a Basic-style source in the GEDCOM export. Yes, this would flatten out the sources such that there is no effective hierarchy of master and detail, but at least such sources would be readable in the system that imports the GEDCOM. Right now, they appear rather scrambled (depending on the template type). Ward From: Walt Quering Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool I may misunderstand the issue, but, from what I've seen, the problem is a GEDCOM problem, not a Legacy problem. The aging GEDCOM model has only so many fields for citations and dumps data from unrecognized fields in the software of origin into its note fields. Back when Legacy was the only software with detailed templates for sources, this impacted only Legacy, but other programs now also have detailed templates, so it impacts them as well. I've seen similar situations in other arenas, and, while the problems are not insurmountable, neither are they inexpensive. They also require that all parties involved cooperate. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I know very little about the use of GEDCOM, it either works for me or it doesn't. Granted GEDCOM development is always behind the times. I understand backward compatibility is always a challenge. Even so, since Millennia created Sourcewriter shouldn't they be responsible to create a workaround algorithm to export the appropriate fields into current GEDCOM fields? Even if most of the information might wind up in a notes field at least the information would available on the import end, although maybe not as useful as if it had proper GEDCOM fields. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Legacy file, but still would not help if you were trying to send someone a gedcom to import into their genealogy program. CE -- From: johnberna...@tadaust.org.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:35:26 +1000 I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John From: CE WOOD Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE -- From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Ward, They have announced publicly v8 to be released soon so they will not be working on new features until after they get that version released. Anyone can make a suggestion/proposal from the Legacy Home page under Support. And contrary to some I have found them to be very responsive to users suggestions. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote: Larry, You say that as if your are an insider who knows what is already in V8. Are you? This issue has come up on the list several times over the last few years. I was hoping that the V8 developers had already given it some consideration. But if you have some pull, please go for it. It is the type of feature that can be added in a minor release, too. Ward *From:* Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 4:40 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Ward etal, I will propose a new feature regarding SourceWriter and GEDCOM but due to the current v8 schedule it will have to wait till later as it will require too much programming at this time. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote: GEDCOM is the source of the problem, but I have long advocated that an optional workaround could be provided in Legacy. In fact, this is near the top of my list of things I would like to see in a major new release. Since Legacy already knows how to format (for reports) the various master and detail fields of a SW source, it seems to me that the programming effort would not be overwhelming to similarly format those fields into a Basic-style source in the GEDCOM export. Yes, this would flatten out the sources such that there is no effective hierarchy of master and detail, but at least such sources would be readable in the system that imports the GEDCOM. Right now, they appear rather scrambled (depending on the template type). Ward *From:* Walt Quering waltsro...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:43 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool I may misunderstand the issue, but, from what I've seen, the problem is a GEDCOM problem, not a Legacy problem. The aging GEDCOM model has only so many fields for citations and dumps data from unrecognized fields in the software of origin into its note fields. Back when Legacy was the only software with detailed templates for sources, this impacted only Legacy, but other programs now also have detailed templates, so it impacts them as well. I've seen similar situations in other arenas, and, while the problems are not insurmountable, neither are they inexpensive. They also require that all parties involved cooperate. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I know very little about the use of GEDCOM, it either works for me or it doesn't. Granted GEDCOM development is always behind the times. I understand backward compatibility is always a challenge. Even so, since Millennia created Sourcewriter shouldn't they be responsible to create a workaround algorithm to export the appropriate fields into current GEDCOM fields? Even if most of the information might wind up in a notes field at least the information would available on the import end, although maybe not as useful as if it had proper GEDCOM fields. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Legacy file, but still would not help if you were trying to send someone a gedcom to import into their genealogy program. CE -- From: johnberna...@tadaust.org.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:35:26 +1000 I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John *From:* CE WOOD wood...@msn.com *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE -- From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG
[LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
On 6/20/2013 12:38 PM, Chris Clifford wrote: Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp It didn't work and was never implemented. The help file is not up to date on this. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Sorry. It is not available You should try exporting to a GEDCOM file a source or two to make sure it exports correctly for you. Others have had problems. I am sticking with Basic Sourcing Chap Sent from my iPad Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com ⛳ On Jun 20, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Chris Clifford ccliff...@pmcnet.ca wrote: Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Chris, I have heard this mentioned in the past. It is not available in Legacy. You might try http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/ I have not used it personally. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Chris Clifford ccliff...@pmcnet.ca wrote: ** Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John From: CE WOOD Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Legacy file, but still would not help if you were trying to send someone a gedcom to import into their genealogy program. CE From: johnberna...@tadaust.org.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:35:26 +1000 I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John From: CE WOOD Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
CE, I know very little about the use of GEDCOM, it either works for me or it doesn't. Granted GEDCOM development is always behind the times. I understand backward compatibility is always a challenge. Even so, since Millennia created Sourcewriter shouldn't they be responsible to create a workaround algorithm to export the appropriate fields into current GEDCOM fields? Even if most of the information might wind up in a notes field at least the information would available on the import end, although maybe not as useful as if it had proper GEDCOM fields. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Legacy file, but still would not help if you were trying to send someone a gedcom to import into their genealogy program. CE -- From: johnberna...@tadaust.org.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:35:26 +1000 I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John *From:* CE WOOD wood...@msn.com *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE -- From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
John, Turn OFF the Request of email. Read the rules of the Mail List Guide lines http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp [quote] Attachments Received Requests Do not send attachments of any kind. Because viruses can hide in attachments, don't open any Legacy Users Group message that has one. Do not send messages that request a received request. [/quote] Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == From: John Bernacki [mailto:johnberna...@tadaust.org.au] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John From: CE WOOD mailto:wood...@msn.com Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE _ From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
I may misunderstand the issue, but, from what I've seen, the problem is a GEDCOM problem, not a Legacy problem. The aging GEDCOM model has only so many fields for citations and dumps data from unrecognized fields in the software of origin into its note fields. Back when Legacy was the only software with detailed templates for sources, this impacted only Legacy, but other programs now also have detailed templates, so it impacts them as well. I've seen similar situations in other arenas, and, while the problems are not insurmountable, neither are they inexpensive. They also require that all parties involved cooperate. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote: CE, I know very little about the use of GEDCOM, it either works for me or it doesn't. Granted GEDCOM development is always behind the times. I understand backward compatibility is always a challenge. Even so, since Millennia created Sourcewriter shouldn't they be responsible to create a workaround algorithm to export the appropriate fields into current GEDCOM fields? Even if most of the information might wind up in a notes field at least the information would available on the import end, although maybe not as useful as if it had proper GEDCOM fields. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Legacy file, but still would not help if you were trying to send someone a gedcom to import into their genealogy program. CE -- From: johnberna...@tadaust.org.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:35:26 +1000 I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John *From:* CE WOOD wood...@msn.com *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE -- From: ccliff...@pmcnet.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the Source Template Conversion Tool. My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
I had put in a suggestion about a year ago to the programmers to have an option put in there to use the compiler's information so we can set it once and don't have to keep entering the same recipient over and over every time we create a new one. Russ -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool -Original Message- From: Nita Phillips Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool I understand that it means the person that receives it, whatever it is - but would that mean that I would enter my name as the person that received the information from whomever? If so, my name would be entered multiple times. Nita -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool The person who received Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Nita, Yes and Yes. But, I have a Source Writer Email Master Source with myself as the recipient, and use this for all my emails ie. I'm a lumper. So, only one Master source and the sender and contents are in the Detail. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Nita Phillips np...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sherry, I am having a terrible time getting information entered correctly in the SourceWriter to get a proper bibliography! It is what I am doing, I am certain. I can find no good directions on how to enter info in order to have the output in the proper bibliography form. What does Recipient mean in the form? Thank you. Nita Phillips Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
-Original Message- From: Nita Phillips Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool I understand that it means the person that receives it, whatever it is - but would that mean that I would enter my name as the person that received the information from whomever? If so, my name would be entered multiple times. Nita -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool The person who received Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Nita, Yes and Yes. But, I have a Source Writer Email Master Source with myself as the recipient, and use this for all my emails ie. I'm a lumper. So, only one Master source and the sender and contents are in the Detail. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Nita Phillips np...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sherry, I am having a terrible time getting information entered correctly in the SourceWriter to get a proper bibliography! It is what I am doing, I am certain. I can find no good directions on how to enter info in order to have the output in the proper bibliography form. What does Recipient mean in the form? Thank you. Nita Phillips Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
*Yes, your name would be entered multiple times. Here's how I do it. Suppose I read a letter received by my Aunt Kathy from her sister. The letter details facts about Cousin Joe Blow, facts I want. Here's what I do: 1 Offer to xerox at my expense the letter so I have a copy to refer to from time to time as needed. I would keep the letter on file, and maybe even scan the letter on my computer for faster access. -or- 2 failing that, I try to get permission to photo the letter. At home, I print it and put it in a file. I might even save the photo on computer for faster access. -or- 3 Still failing that, I will set down and write down every fact I possibly can. Names, events, dates, who the letter was from, who it was to. Now, even if I have a copy of it in the first two examples, who received the letter? Aunt Kathy. Who has the letter? Aunt Kathy. I only have a copy. Aunt Kathy is the recipient. In the last example, Aunt Kathy is the recipient. I just copied facts. I have several family Bibles. I fight for permission to view them before they are destroyed. Yes, a lot of people they go to decide the Bible is too old, too loose, coming apart, too something. So they toss it. I would list the name of the *current* owner of those Bibles as recipient, even he may elect to destroy them. True, your name will be on a lot of them. does this help? * *Thank you. **Robert* *Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always SOURCE your work.* On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Nita Phillips np...@bellsouth.net wrote: I understand that it means the person that receives it, whatever it is - but would that mean that I would enter my name as the person that received the information from whomever? If so, my name would be entered multiple times. Nita -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool The person who received Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
Marli, Source-wise, because you can use the show list on the old/basic source and tag those folks, then work your way through it on the tag. --Paula From: Marli Yoder yosbutter...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 11:16:49 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool Paula- did you do it family wise, or source wise? I have 800 people using a census source-(all different notes and geographic locations) It would seem that family wise would be best? Thanks Marli From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:51:17 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool Marli, I don't think they ever released that functionality. Search the archives for threads on how to do that. I've converted some, but had to use Access for one part of the process. Since I was cleaning up a lot of things at the time, I generally added new ones and re-did the citations... not terribly hard using the clipboard. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Marli Yoder yosbutter...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:45:29 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool Have I missed a thread? I'm trying to change all of my basic sources to Sourcewrite. I have the manual- states go to Master Source List-Options- then I do not see the next step-Choose Source Template Conversion tools. I have build 7.5.0.112. Marli Yoder A M Farms Eureka Sturgeon Missouri Abbetmeier, Frielingsdorf, Giessow, Siegerist Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
Have I missed a thread? I'm trying to change all of my basic sources to Sourcewrite. I have the manual- states go to Master Source List-Options- then I do not see the next step-Choose Source Template Conversion tools. I have build 7.5.0.112. Marli Yoder A M Farms Eureka Sturgeon Missouri Abbetmeier, Frielingsdorf, Giessow, Siegerist Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
Marli, I don't think they ever released that functionality. Search the archives for threads on how to do that. I've converted some, but had to use Access for one part of the process. Since I was cleaning up a lot of things at the time, I generally added new ones and re-did the citations... not terribly hard using the clipboard. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Marli Yoder yosbutter...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:45:29 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool Have I missed a thread? I'm trying to change all of my basic sources to Sourcewrite. I have the manual- states go to Master Source List-Options- then I do not see the next step-Choose Source Template Conversion tools. I have build 7.5.0.112. Marli Yoder A M Farms Eureka Sturgeon Missouri Abbetmeier, Frielingsdorf, Giessow, Siegerist Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
On 30/11/2011 16:45, Marli Yoder wrote: Have I missed a thread? I'm trying to change all of my basic sources to Sourcewrite. I have the manual- states go to Master Source List-Options- then I do not see the next step-Choose Source Template Conversion tools. I have build 7.5.0.112. I think you've missed several threads as this topic has come up frequently in the past! The Source Conversion Tool proved to be much more difficult to create than the programmers anticipated and as yet it has not materialised. There is no indication that it might do so in the near future. There are two methods of speeding up the process of manually converting Basic Sources. One involves interacting directly with Access and I believe the other involves the use of Ltools. Doubtless someone will be along soon to give you more details, but I have used the Access method and can send you the details if you wish. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
Paula- did you do it family wise, or source wise? I have 800 people using a census source-(all different notes and geographic locations) It would seem that family wise would be best? Thanks Marli From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:51:17 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool Marli, I don't think they ever released that functionality. Search the archives for threads on how to do that. I've converted some, but had to use Access for one part of the process. Since I was cleaning up a lot of things at the time, I generally added new ones and re-did the citations... not terribly hard using the clipboard. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Marli Yoder yosbutter...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:45:29 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool Have I missed a thread? I'm trying to change all of my basic sources to Sourcewrite. I have the manual- states go to Master Source List-Options- then I do not see the next step-Choose Source Template Conversion tools. I have build 7.5.0.112. Marli Yoder A M Farms Eureka Sturgeon Missouri Abbetmeier, Frielingsdorf, Giessow, Siegerist Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
I agree. It has been pending for years. L.5 or L6 forgot when.Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 11/30/11, Marli Yoder yosbutter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Marli Yoder yosbutter...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 9:03 AM Large whine on it not making it into the program. I will check the posted suggestions. Thanks for the timely response Marli From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, November 30, 2011 10:49:33 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool This feature never made it into Legacy and references to it were removed from the Help file. Geoff Rasmussen posted his source conversion suggestions to the Legacy User Group mailing list in June 2008. You can read his post in the archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg26496.html (If the link doesn't work, try this TinyURL one http://tinyurl.com/6kc8hb) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Marli Yoder yosbutter...@yahoo.com wrote: Have I missed a thread? I'm trying to change all of my basic sources to Sourcewrite. I have the manual- states go to Master Source List-Options- then I do not see the next step-Choose Source Template Conversion tools. I have build 7.5.0.112. Marli Yoder A M Farms Eureka Sturgeon Missouri Abbetmeier, Frielingsdorf, Giessow, Siegerist Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
The SourceWriter was introduced in v7. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:25 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: I agree. It has been pending for years. L.5 or L6 forgot when. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
Sherry, I am having a terrible time getting information entered correctly in the SourceWriter to get a proper bibliography! It is what I am doing, I am certain. I can find no good directions on how to enter info in order to have the output in the proper bibliography form. What does Recipient mean in the form? Thank you. Nita Phillips -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool The SourceWriter was introduced in v7. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:25 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: I agree. It has been pending for years. L.5 or L6 forgot when. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
The person who received Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Nita Phillips np...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sherry, I am having a terrible time getting information entered correctly in the SourceWriter to get a proper bibliography! It is what I am doing, I am certain. I can find no good directions on how to enter info in order to have the output in the proper bibliography form. What does Recipient mean in the form? Thank you. Nita Phillips Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool
I understand that it means the person that receives it, whatever it is - but would that mean that I would enter my name as the person that received the information from whomever? If so, my name would be entered multiple times. Nita -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source template conversion tool The person who received Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Nita Phillips np...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sherry, I am having a terrible time getting information entered correctly in the SourceWriter to get a proper bibliography! It is what I am doing, I am certain. I can find no good directions on how to enter info in order to have the output in the proper bibliography form. What does Recipient mean in the form? Thank you. Nita Phillips Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] source template conversion tool
Hi all anyone know how I can access the source template conversion tool so I can convert my sources from basic to sourcewriter? Thanks Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] source template conversion tool
On 19/04/2011 13:26, anne dyson wrote: Hi all anyone know how I can access the source template conversion tool so I can convert my sources from basic to sourcewriter? There isn't one within Legacy! (The Help file was written in hopeful anticipation.) There is a method for doing it rather labour-intensively using Access which I have employed frequently and with great success. There is also, I believe, a function for this within Ltools, but I'll need to leave someone else to tell you about that - I have never used Ltools. (Nothing against it, I'm sure I will use it in the future.) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] source template conversion tool
Anne, We all have been waiting for that tool, however in the mean time, there is a way to convert your basic sources to the Sourcewriter version. Check out this tip at http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg26496.html It is very helpful. Russ Strong -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source template conversion tool On 19/04/2011 13:26, anne dyson wrote: Hi all anyone know how I can access the source template conversion tool so I can convert my sources from basic to sourcewriter? There isn't one within Legacy! (The Help file was written in hopeful anticipation.) There is a method for doing it rather labour-intensively using Access which I have employed frequently and with great success. There is also, I believe, a function for this within Ltools, but I'll need to leave someone else to tell you about that - I have never used Ltools. (Nothing against it, I'm sure I will use it in the future.) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] source template conversion tool
For got to mention that if you check out that link, be sure to check out the replies to that post. Just scroll to the bottom and click on the links, the last two are very helpful as they mention the advanced tagging that is not mentioned in his original post. Russ From: my genealogy email Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:33 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source template conversion tool Anne, We all have been waiting for that tool, however in the mean time, there is a way to convert your basic sources to the Sourcewriter version. Check out this tip at http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg26496.html It is very helpful. Russ Strong -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source template conversion tool On 19/04/2011 13:26, anne dyson wrote: Hi all anyone know how I can access the source template conversion tool so I can convert my sources from basic to sourcewriter? There isn't one within Legacy! (The Help file was written in hopeful anticipation.) There is a method for doing it rather labour-intensively using Access which I have employed frequently and with great success. There is also, I believe, a function for this within Ltools, but I'll need to leave someone else to tell you about that - I have never used Ltools. (Nothing against it, I'm sure I will use it in the future.) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] source template conversion tool
Hi Anne, Although it is in the book, it never made it to the program. A regular user on this list has written a few utilities. LTools. I have it, use it, and will do what you are asking: http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/what-is-ltools/ Have a good day ! Tim R. On 4/19/2011 6:26 AM, anne dyson wrote: Hi all anyone know how I can access the source template conversion tool so I can convert my sources from basic to sourcewriter? Thanks Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
The tool was never added to Legacy. Geoff Rasmussen posted his source conversion suggestions to the Legacy User Group mailing list in June 2008. You can read his post in the archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/msg26496.html (If the link doesn't work, try this TinyURL one http://tinyurl.com/6kc8hb) You may be thinking of combining sources. Please send messages to the group in plain text. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: Arnold Sprague [mailto:aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Jim, For a short while there was a conversion tool built into Legacy. It was wonderful. It made my life very, very nice. Unfortunately, it was soon removed in an update; far, far before I could **easily** convert all my sources. One must strike while the iron is hot The reason we were given as to the removal of the conversion tool was that it did not always work correctly and that there were some unhappy campers as a result. I, for one, would be **most** willing to take my chances with the Legacy conversion tool. Arnold gacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Jim, You are missing the Source Writer Conversion Tool, probably because it has never been written, certainly it has never been released. In my view it really should be removed from the Help Files. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England - Original Message - From: James Sweet To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: 01 May 2010 23:35 Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool I want to convert my existing master source citations to the SourceWriter templates. In the Help menu, The Source Template Conversion Tool screen says ...The Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. I pulled up the Master Source List, clicked Options. But I do not see Source Template Conversion Tool on the submenu. Here is what is listed: Delete Master Source Tag/Exclude Options Change Surety Settings Combine Duplicates Purge Unused Import Lists What am I missing? I am currently running version 7.4.0.25 Thank you, Jim Sweet email jimls38...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
James Sweet wrote What am I missing? You're not missing anything - or rather, you're missing what we all are! The promised SourceWriter Conversion Tool apparently turned out to be rather more difficult to produce than was anticipated so it hasn't actually materialised yet. There are 2 do-it-yourself methods available if you want to pursue converting your Basic Sources. One involves minor manipulation of your Family File in Access (I can give you the instructions if you wish) and the other is included in Dennis's LTools program. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Jim, To my knowledge, the Source Writer Conversion Tool, has never been released. I will agree with Ron Ferguson that it should be removed from the help files to eliminate confusion, however, I will even go a step further and say (In my opinion) there are just too many variables for a Source Writer Conversion Tool to take them all into account and work properly for everyone, and therefore should be abandoned as a project. I am sure the programmers and developers of Legacy could spend that time on polishing existing features within Legacy. As a side note, I was able to correct many errors previously made by having to manually review each of the individuals after converting to Legacy via GEDCOM. If the Source Writer Conversion Tool had been available I would have never caught those earlier mistakes. So I am actually happy that the Source Conversion Tool was not available. This is just my opinion, others may feel differently. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Jim You aren’t missing anything. The conversion tool hasn’t been released yet. Jack From: James Sweet [mailto:jimls38...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 May 2010 23:35 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool I want to convert my existing master source citations to the SourceWriter templates. In the Help menu, The Source Template Conversion Tool screen says ...The Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. I pulled up the Master Source List, clicked Options. But I do not see Source Template Conversion Tool on the submenu. Here is what is listed: Delete Master Source Tag/Exclude Options Change Surety Settings Combine Duplicates Purge Unused Import Lists What am I missing? I am currently running version 7.4.0.25 Thank you, Jim Sweet email jimls38...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2840 - Release Date: 05/01/10 07:27:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
It's called 'Do It Your Self!! Margaret -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Saturday, 01 May, 2010 7:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool James Sweet wrote What am I missing? You're not missing anything - or rather, you're missing what we all are! The promised SourceWriter Conversion Tool apparently turned out to be rather more difficult to produce than was anticipated so it hasn't actually materialised yet. There are 2 do-it-yourself methods available if you want to pursue converting your Basic Sources. One involves minor manipulation of your Family File in Access (I can give you the instructions if you wish) and the other is included in Dennis's LTools program. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
It never existed as far as I recall! Keith -- Keith A. McKain Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: mckainances...@gmail.com On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Arnold Sprague aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu wrote: Jim, For a short while there was a conversion tool built into Legacy. It was wonderful. It made my life very, very nice. Unfortunately, it was soon removed in an update; far, far before I could **easily** convert all my sources. One must strike while the iron is hot The reason we were given as to the removal of the conversion tool was that it did not always work correctly and that there were some unhappy campers as a result. I, for one, would be **most** willing to take my chances with the Legacy conversion tool. Arnold At 04:35 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote: I want to convert my existing master source citations to the SourceWriter templates.  In the Help menu, The Source Template Conversion Tool screen says ...The Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu.  I pulled up the Master Source List, clicked Options. But I do not see Source Template Conversion Tool on the submenu. Here is what is listed:  Delete Master Source  Tag/Exclude Options  Change Surety Settings  Combine Duplicates  Purge Unused  Import Lists  What am I missing?  I am currently running version 7.4.0.25  Thank you, Jim Sweet email jimls38...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Thanks to all that responded. I thought I had lucked out when I found that tool in the help menu... Goes to show you that what appears too good to be true probably is. I agree, they should take it out of the help menu if it does not exist. Regards. Jim On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:34 PM, GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com wrote: It never existed as far as I recall! Keith -- Keith A. McKain Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: mckainances...@gmail.com On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Arnold Sprague aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu wrote: Jim, For a short while there was a conversion tool built into Legacy. It was wonderful. It made my life very, very nice. Unfortunately, it was soon removed in an update; far, far before I could **easily** convert all my sources. One must strike while the iron is hot The reason we were given as to the removal of the conversion tool was that it did not always work correctly and that there were some unhappy campers as a result. I, for one, would be **most** willing to take my chances with the Legacy conversion tool. Arnold At 04:35 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote: I want to convert my existing master source citations to the SourceWriter templates.  In the Help menu, The Source Template Conversion Tool screen says ...The Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu.  I pulled up the Master Source List, clicked Options. But I do not see Source Template Conversion Tool on the submenu. Here is what is listed:  Delete Master Source  Tag/Exclude Options  Change Surety Settings  Combine Duplicates  Purge Unused  Import Lists  What am I missing?  I am currently running version 7.4.0.25  Thank you, Jim Sweet email jimls38...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
For quite a few months, it remained on their web sites as one of the features of the “new” version 7. But as we all learned it wasn’t initially included and had promises of RSN (real soon now). As the months passed, it’s very mention was obliterated from the Millennia web site. Apparently the idea has been dropped and Millennia Corp. has been mum about it, neither denying nor confirming its demise. I’m even surprised now to hear that there still remains fossils of it mentioned within the current release. It now takes its rightful place with all those other software titles from companies whose “vaporware” never happened. In retrospect, we’ve seen that no two users utilize the existing source templates in the same exact manner with some opting for additional notes and other modifications. Attempting to create such a “one size fits all” source conversion tool probably had too many variables thrown at it with the complexity of various sourcing techniques. The tool may likely have been bigger than the program. RIP – Source Conversion Tool Brian in CA From: James Sweet [mailto:jimls38...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Thanks to all that responded. I thought I had lucked out when I found that tool in the help menu... Goes to show you that what appears too good to be true probably is. I agree, they should take it out of the help menu if it does not exist. Regards. Jim On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:34 PM, GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com wrote: It never existed as far as I recall! Keith -- Keith A. McKain Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: mckainances...@gmail.com On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Arnold Sprague aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu wrote: Jim, For a short while there was a conversion tool built into Legacy. It was wonderful. It made my life very, very nice. Unfortunately, it was soon removed in an update; far, far before I could **easily** convert all my sources. One must strike while the iron is hot The reason we were given as to the removal of the conversion tool was that it did not always work correctly and that there were some unhappy campers as a result. I, for one, would be **most** willing to take my chances with the Legacy conversion tool. Arnold At 04:35 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote: I want to convert my existing master source citations to the SourceWriter templates.  In the Help menu, The Source Template Conversion Tool screen says ...The Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu.  I pulled up the Master Source List, clicked Options. But I do not see Source Template Conversion Tool on the submenu. Here is what is listed:  Delete Master Source  Tag/Exclude Options  Change Surety Settings  Combine Duplicates  Purge Unused  Import Lists  What am I missing?  I am currently running version 7.4.0.25  Thank you, Jim Sweet email jimls38...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Related item: I spoke with Geoff Rasmussen today at NGS in Salt Lake City, and asked him if there was a way for me, as a user, to create my own Sourcewriter templates. He said no, but it is something they are working on. On 5/1/10 8:34 PM, James Sweet jimls38...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all that responded. I thought I had lucked out when I found that tool in the help menu... Goes to show you that what appears too good to be true probably is. I agree, they should take it out of the help menu if it does not exist. Regards. Jim On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:34 PM, GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com wrote: It never existed as far as I recall! Keith -- Keith A. McKain Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: mckainances...@gmail.com On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Arnold Sprague aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu wrote: Jim, For a short while there was a conversion tool built into Legacy. It was wonderful. It made my life very, very nice. Unfortunately, it was soon removed in an update; far, far before I could **easily** convert all my sources. One must strike while the iron is hot The reason we were given as to the removal of the conversion tool was that it did not always work correctly and that there were some unhappy campers as a result. I, for one, would be **most** willing to take my chances with the Legacy conversion tool. Arnold At 04:35 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote: I want to convert my existing master source citations to the SourceWriter templates.  In the Help menu, The Source Template Conversion Tool screen says ...The Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu.  I pulled up the Master Source List, clicked Options. But I do not see Source Template Conversion Tool on the submenu. Here is what is listed:  Delete Master Source  Tag/Exclude Options  Change Surety Settings  Combine Duplicates  Purge Unused  Import Lists  What am I missing?  I am currently running version 7.4.0.25  Thank you, Jim Sweet email jimls38...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.co m/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Hel p.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree. com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com /Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help .asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.c om/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Allen A. Watson is on Facebook http://allen-watson.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp