Linux-Misc Digest #979

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #979, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 00:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: one thing that sux about Linux (Frank Carney)
  Re: PPP Dialers ("Michael M. Tung")
  Re: KDE is a Memory Hog. ("David A. Frantz")
  Need good vt420 emulator that can talk over serial port (Gregory Propf)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Julian T. J. Midgley)
  Re: Umount won't unmount /usr (Rick Walker)
  Re: VFAT floppy for fstab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: glibc2.1 and egcs1.1.1 problem (Ludger Solbach)
  Re: Antivirus (Richard Steiner)
  [Off-topic][Q] How to get swapping times ? (Andrei A. Dergatchev)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Julian T. J. Midgley)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Julian T. J. Midgley)
  (newbie) shadow help (Greg Evans)
  Re: screwed up fstab (Dan Harris)
  Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99 (Tom Ballinger)
  Re: hacked login (Chad M. Townsend)
  Circumventing my ISP (Kevin Currie)
  Re: kernel too big? (Kevin Martin)
  Re: How to make a ISA PNP modem work in Linux? (Keon-woo Hong)
  APM/DPMS harddisk spindown? (Thomas Frese)
  Re: Simple but sweet. a.out is not my friend (Ed Finch)



From: Frank Carney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: one thing that sux about Linux
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:33:13 -0700

Here we go again. Look people, I know that Winblows is a piece of crap
- M$
still hasn't pried the DOS kernel out of the thing. I've been in IT
support
since Windows 3.0, so I know the architecture inside. As such, I hate
I agree, but I am not sure which should be pried out DOS or Windows.

Windows with all the same venom and vitriol as the rest of you . But,
it is
a necessary evil (for now).
It is only necessary as long as this is believed.  As people in college
use Linux instead of M$ the "educated" people will eventually get into
positions (managment) and choose to use Linux there too.  It will just
be a matter of time.

You expect a CEO to learn e-mail on Linux? Right. His time costs about
$200
an hour - too valuable to spend learning a new OS, when Windows is
ready and
able to handle at least this simple chore ( for a while anyway, until
it
chews the FAT table on the disk and explodes like a roman candle) and
he
Now I do agree this is true that a learning curve exists.  Time is a
great consideration no matter what your position may be.  Now if you
want to sell Linux to a CEO you might convince him that it will in the
end same him time by not having system crashes as you have illustrated.
However, this will no longer be an issue as more people in influential
positions start to use Linux and M$ is phased out.

mostly knows how to use it. I wish everyone in here would drop the
"holier
than thou" attitude. You all seem to either have a superiority complex
or
want to divide the world into technology haves and have nots.
Now this is an interesting way to lump all those involved as having a
"holier than thou" attitude.  First of it assumes that everyone in here
is using Linux and only Linux (and nothing but the Linux : ).  Then it
assumes that everyone in here thinks they are better than those who
would use M$.  Both of these assumptions are false.  Now this seperating
people into halves and have nots has already been done by M$.  If you
try to "compete" you are either bought out or forced to leave the market
by "lower quality" mass distributed products.

Now I do enjoy this type of discussion and I would like to further talk
(if it stays civil) with people about it.  However, there is nothing
wrong with the occasional "M$ sucks" or "Linux sucks".  A lot of times
it helps to let out frustration.  Now if it were to be too excesive then
we might have to open a discussion group just for this maybe
"comp.os.linux.sucks" or "comp.os.win.sucks".   Have a good one.



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From: "Michael M. Tung" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PPP Dialers
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:00:06 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HI people ... I am currently using Redhat 5.1

 and I was wondering if there are any other PPP dialers on the net like Kppp ?

 and .. anyone using Afterstep ??

 Alvin

 #137;


Hi Alvin,

try this one (the X-ISP Homepage):

http://users.hol.gr/~dbouras/

It's a quite nifty tool to facilitate handling ppp/chat. You need to have
X11/XForms installed to compile/run the program.

Have fun,
 Mike




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From: "David A. Frantz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE is a Memory Hog.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:12:57 -0500

Hi all;

Not to add fuel to the fire but the last time I install KDE memory usage
shoot way way up.We are talkiing about using more that half of a 128 meg
machine here. KDE was slow, sluggish, and not very inspiring.Now
maybe the code has been cleaned 

Linux-Misc Digest #980

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #980, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 02:13:12 EST

Contents:
  Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug? (Kyle Gonzales)
  Re: Multi IP addresses on one NIC question (tongkm)
  suspend mode  ppp (Alex Postnikov)
  Re: APM/DPMS harddisk spindown? (Lyle Taylor)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Michael Powe)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Sheri Doherty)
  NetWare for Linux ("Steve D. Perkins")
  Re: syslogd and high cpu loads (Joel Shellman)
  Re: Command to switch tasks! (Steffen Kluge)
  Re: Dialup Server with VNC into WinNT (Corey J. Steele)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  linux help channel (lattin96)
  Re: CD-RW Problem - Help Please!! (Roundeye)
  Install scsi after install ("(BXTC)")
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Powe)
  windowmaker: capital or not (Alex Postnikov)
  Re: KDE vs xterm backspace and scroll bar? (Leslie Mikesell)
  The Question for Linux evnironment Application devolpement ("ÀÓÀçȯ")
  Re: KDE opens more and more Xterms each time! (walt)
  Mandrake? (walt)
  Can't get TV card working (Julian Diego Herrera Braga)



From: Kyle Gonzales [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:53:35 -0500

Hi all,

Can a K6-2 work properly in a i430TX chipset motherboard?  I know it can
handle MMX, but does not handle SDRAM or overclocking well (at least in the
earlier version).  That could be the problem...

Any ideas, anyone?

Kyle Gonzales
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

mikec wrote:

 I've got Linux to work with a K6-2 3D (266MHz overclocked at 290) with no
 problems. I would check in your Bios about suspend modes, as according to my
 book you can only use it with a pentium. I don't know if this is your
 problem, but it's what I thought of when I read your message.
 Hilaire Fernandes wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Javier Pulido wrote:
 
  ¡¡SOS!!
 
  Problems with the booting of linux in a computer AMD K6-2 (300 MHz) with
  i430TX (no AGP) and 128 MB, two hard drives and 1 CDROM.  Can you help
 me?


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From: tongkm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Multi IP addresses on one NIC question
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:18:30 +0800

I did it using the config as below, using one nic with 1 valid ip address
and 2 privite ip.

my rc.local with lines :

# Setting up IP alias interfaces.
echo "Setting up 192.168.10.1 IP Aliases ... "
/sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
/sbin/ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.20.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
#
# Setting up IP routes
echo "Setting up IP routes ..."
/sbin/route add -net 192.168.10.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0:0
/sbin/route add -net 192.168.20.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0:1
# Loading modules
/sbin/depmod -a
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp.o
#
# Setting up IP Masquerade
echo "Setting IP Masquerade ..."
ipfwadm -F -p deny
ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.10.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0
ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.20.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0

and my network report the status as :

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
  RX packets:28 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:28 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:0

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:8C:C8:C0:A6
  inet addr:192.168.133.155  Bcast:192.168.133.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1040584 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:440875 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
coll:2116
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0x330

eth0:0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:8C:C8:C0:A6
  inet addr:192.168.10.1  Bcast:192.168.10.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:0

eth0:1Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:8C:C8:C0:A6
  inet addr:192.168.20.1  Bcast:192.168.20.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:0

the system work fine on a 486-100 16M RAM linux box with slackware 3.5,
kernel 2.0.36.

Stormie Nelson wrote:

 Howdy from Texas -

 I am trying to set up a masquerading firewall.  I have done this before
 with no real problems, but I am doing something a little weird at a
 customer's request.  It has a legal address assigned by the ISP, and
 they want me to assign a private address for ipmasq to the 

Linux-Misc Digest #981

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #981, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 04:13:13 EST

Contents:
  Re: LILO password in Mandrake ("Greg Searle")
  Re: Trouble Starting X with correct resolution POST2 ("TheCowGod")
  Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99 (Miguel Cruz)
  Re: Small version of Linux (Andrew Comech)
  Re: Best Linux ? (Gene Wilburn)
  recording sound directly to harddisk? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Stein)
  configuring mailx or pine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Annoying problem trying to make boot disks with yard... (John Thompson)
  Re: Soundblaster AWE64 (Kyle Dansie)
  Re: kernel 2.2.1 doesn't like ppp (Kyle Dansie)
  Re: Q: setserial (Goran Allerbo)
  Win9X - Linux exchange (Xavier SERPAGGI)
  HELP login = logout (Xavier SERPAGGI)
  Re: Strange message in /var/log/ (Gregory G. Woodbury)
  Install Linux on intel-based Sequent server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Wanted Linux books(newbie) (Guy)
  Re: what is linux (Alexander Viro)
  Please Help, ISP setup! (Prasanth)
  Re: APM/DPMS harddisk spindown? (Andreas Hinz)
  Re: editing LILO? (Michael Powe)
  Re: Where is Kermit? (Michael Powe)
  Re: The Question for Linux evnironment Application devolpement (Michael Powe)
  Plain text SQL Scripts - vi ("Gert Ormel")



Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: LILO password in Mandrake
From: "Greg Searle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:31:04 -0700

Thanks for your help.  I'll bother you with bigger and better questions I'm
sure in the future.

Greg

Greg Searle wrote in message ...
My first time using Linux.  I installed Mandrake and get where I'm asked
for
my login and password.  During setup I remember giving a password, but
never
a login.  Probably a dumb question, but how are you supposed to login?  I
can't figure this one out.  Help me if you can please.  Thanks,

Greg Searle





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From: "TheCowGod" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.binaries.warez.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Trouble Starting X with correct resolution POST2
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:58:15 -0500

Quinn wrote in message 79pn2i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Trouble Starting X with correct resolution POST2

I am very new to Linux so please bear with my ignorance and newbie
questions.  The Redhat 5.1 installation from Que seemed clean and
straightforward.  I gave up on the installation automatically selecting my
actual components (as I get a locked black screen):
Actual Components:
PS2 (MS IntelliMouse)
DEC Compatible NIC
Optiquest V95 monitor
STB Velocity 128

there's your problem, methinks. i don't know anyone who hasn't had SOME kind
of trouble getting the correct resolution in a box with an STB Velocity 128.
i had one - just got a graphics blaster RivaTNT. haven't tried to setup
linux with it yet, so i dunno if that'll work, but hopefully i can run at
the normal 1280x1024, 32 bit. i was doing it with the velocity 128 but it
wouldn't work in linux. moo.

--

Dan McCormack
http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~demccor/



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel Cruz)
Crossposted-To: dc.general
Subject: Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99
Date: 11 Feb 1999 07:05:25 GMT

Hey, I didn't get the info on the installfest since Bell Atlantic's news
server is so utterly awful. Could someone mail it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
Don't use the address on the top of this posting; I have never been to
Kansas and I have no idea why it is there. Thanks.

miguel

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From: Andrew Comech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Small version of Linux
Date: 8 Feb 1999 20:40:44 -0500

You did not mention -- is there a hard drive?
To install e.g. Debian you need I guess 8 floppies,
4MB of RAM, and at least 20-30 MB of hard drive. For a reasonable
toy about 50MB, and you can even fit X on 100MB disk.
If your old PC is older than 386, then Linux will not run at all,
while on 386 it runs too slow to have fun.
Another option if you want to fiddle around is Minix, but you'd end
up with linux anyways.

At the same time, $150 buys a motherboard and 300MHz CPU, $100 buys
64MB of ECC PC100 RAM, and $110 buys 3.2G of hard drive.
Check out PriceWatch.com
Cheers,
Andrew


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From: Gene Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Best Linux ?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 01:54:14 GMT

Every distribution has its followers. If you want to have some fun,
spend a couple hundred on a 6G or higher HD and run multiple versions of
Linux. Get the InfoMagic Linux Developer's Resource ($20), which
includes RedHat, Debian, SuSE and Slackware and take turns installing
them into different partitions. Run each for awhile and the one you
stick with at the end is the one that's right for you.

Gene

Keith G. Murphy wrote:
 
 Darren Greer wrote:
 
  Seeing as you are experienced in the *nix world.I would go with
  debian.
  www.debian.org
  

Linux-Misc Digest #983

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #983, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 09:13:15 EST

Contents:
  Re: Icons in KDE ("Jörn Nettingsmeier")
  Re: what is linux (Tim Laursen)
  Re: KDE is a Memory Hog. (Tom Evans)
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Tim Smith)
  Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise (Tim Smith)
  hacked login (Rafael Marcus)
  Need help with hosed rpm database (Dennis Putnam)
  Re: compiling kernel 2.2.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Where did my memory go? (Rob O'Connell)
  Re: Burning MP3s to CD, long file names? (Rob O'Connell)
  please help with qvison and xserver ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: KDE is a Memory Hog. (Marco Anglesio)
  money (click2time)
  $KDEDIR and kdm_on (Wojtek Lukaszewicz)
  Re: /dev/sequencer,midi help needed! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: help with mtools and xcopy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Getting JPEG dimensions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Plain text SQL Scripts - vi (Miguel De Buf)
  Q: X-profile-plotprogr reading data from pipe ? (Tobias Buchal)
  Re: What is on this floppy? (Tom Fawcett)
  More bad news for NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



From: "Jörn Nettingsmeier" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Icons in KDE
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:47:19 +0100

dear steve !

not sure, but kde seems to expect .xpm - files /bitmap.
try to convert your icon to bitmap and rename it ending in .xpm !

regards, 

jo"rn


Steve D. Perkins wrote:
 
 Someone the other day emailed me a KDE icon for WordPerfect after I
 had asked about it in a newsgroup.  I copied it into what I believe is
 the default directory KDE stores its icons in (/opt/kde/share/icons)...
 and tried to change the icon I'm using for WordPerfect over to this new
 one.
 
 However, this icon does not show up at all in the icons-available
 window under the Menu Editor when I go to change it.  Just be anal, I
 tried copying it as well to the personal (.kde) directory location in my
 home directory... and it didn't work from there.  Is there something
 special you have to do to "register" icons other than just copying them
 into the proper directory, or some other kind of step that I'm missing?
 
 Steve

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Jo"rn Nettingsmeier
Effmannstr. 6 
45239 Essen/Germany 
Phone/Fax +49 201 491621

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From: Tim Laursen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is linux
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:14:09 +0100

yair wrote:
 
 Hello
 I have heard about linux but I have a simple question:
 WHAT IS LINUX ??

Simply put: It is an operating system. More accurately: It is the core
of an operating system. To have a working OS, you need a kernel and a
bunch of utilities and setup files. The utilities (basic commands and
such) commonly used with Linux are provided by GNU (www.gnu.org). Even
though the Linux/GNU combination is not officially Unix(tm), it is in
all practical cases a Unix clone. You can compile and run almost any
program designed for Unix on a Linux machine.

 I will be happy to get info. and web addresses for info. about linux.

The first places to look: www.linux.org and www.redhat.com

-- 

  (\Best regards,/)
-8-  Tim  -8-
  (/  2B OR NOT 2B = FF  \)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Evans)
Subject: Re: KDE is a Memory Hog.
Date: 9 Feb 1999 18:31:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article 79pgk0$6mp$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Chad M. Townsend [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ya, but KDE is cool.  Memory is cheap.
 
 -chad
Thats the Microsoft spirit!!!
So you want Linux to be like Windoze...I think not.
-- 
Tom Evans   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All disclaimers apply...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:01:45 -0800

Richard Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only thing you need a monitor and keyboard for is at the point of initial 
installation.Just leave the stupid video card in the machine.  Its not 
hurting anything, it isn't worth anything, and it doesn't even usually eat an 
IRQ.

Hell, just get a motherboard with onboard video, and you don't even need to
futz around finding a cheap video card.

--Tim Smith

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux on PC's not ready for Enterprise
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:56:57 -0800

M Sweger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But what about this scenario. If I make linux a printerver without
any video card and I do a reboot of that box, I take it from this
thread that it'll hang. I don't want to put a video, keyboard and
monitor on it. The same applies to it acting in a network gateway

A video card is $10 or so.  That's all you need.  Most BIOSes can be
set to ignore keyboard errors (including a lack of a keyboard), and
whether you have a monitor connected to the video card or not doesn't

Linux-Misc Digest #984

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #984, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 12:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99 (Dr Paul Kinsler)
  Video raster shifted to right (Charles Packer)
  2 domains 1 linux  ("softalk")
  Re: Partition Magic (Ulf Bohman)
  Tin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: editing LILO? (dmalcolm)
  Re: More bad news for NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  How to change icon? (QM)
  Re: Handing a socket to an already running process???  How??? (Ben Russo)
  MetroX (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= T Johansen)
  Re: isdn4k utilities and ISDN ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: MetroX (Ben Russo)
  Re: Video raster shifted to right (Ben Russo)
  Mixing old and new libraries (RPMS)? (PG)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
  gmtime to beat! (Massimo Morin)
  KERNEL 2.2.0 failed ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Crossposted-To: dc.general
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:13:33 + (GMT)

Charles Packer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It came down to this: Windows 95 doesn't care what video monitor
 I attach to the used Compaq Deskpro I bought recently. With
 Linux, it's a big deal to switch over from an older fixed-scan
 model to an upscale multiscan model. 

Neither does Linux.  Just stick in the generic defaults of
(S)VGA xserver and (S)VGA monitor, and all should be well.
And there is the XF86Setup graphical install prog, which 
took me only a few mins to use today.

OK, you want to fine tune stuff, you need to go fiddle about.
But to get up and running takes little effort if you use 
XF86Setup.  You did read the XFree howto's, didnt you?

-- 
==+==
Dr. Paul Kinsler 
Institute of Microwaves and Photonics
University of Leeds(ph) +44-113-2332089
Leeds LS2 9JT  (fax)+44-113-2332032
United Kingdom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: http://www.ee.leeds.ac.uk/staff/pk/P.Kinsler.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Packer)
Subject: Video raster shifted to right
Date: 10 Feb 1999 13:36:08 GMT

I just installed RedHat 5.1 on an older Compaq Deskpro (I
remain contented to stay one generation behind in home
computing). When, at great length, I finally got the
XF86Config file right -- a stable image, that is -- for the
Nanao F2-17 (17-inch) monitor I'm using, its image was still
shifted to the right, leaving a dark band on the left side an
inch wide.

Now, in part this may be solved by tweaking the monitor
settings. The reason I think so is that Windows 95 on the same
box also puts out an image that is right-shifted, but only by
1/2 inch.

So if I can get a half inch by adjusting the monitor, can
somebody tell me what parameters in the XF86config file
might be involved in shifting it another half inch to the
left?

I might remark that video configuration is still the armpit of
Linux, even after the four years that have passed since I
installed Linux on a PC the first time. Everything else in the
installation went smoothly. The hackers who created Linux
should take time off from tweaking the kernel and get busy
on more successfully automating the video configuration process.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/whatnews/whatnews.html

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From: "softalk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2 domains 1 linux 
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:39:29 -

Could someone please help ?

I have 2 domains registered domain1.co.uk  domain2.co.uk. I currently have
both with ISP's and dial in to them from a win98 machine. I have just
installed a linux Redhat 5.1 system on a 64k leased with a cisco router. The
ISP issued me with 16 static IP addresses plus 1 for the router. I have set
the router as the gateway and I can send and receive email from the
domain1.co.uk cos I put it in the domain box in Linux (I get that much) + I
can browse the web, but I would like to host both my domains on the linux
system and receive mail for them both. This is where I am lost. I get the
idea that it is possible to have 2 seperate web sites for 2 domains on the
same linux system. If so, could you please give me an idea as to what to put
in the network settings box in x windows to make this happen. I am a linux
newcomer as you may have gathered.

If you can help, thank you very very much.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Ulf Bohman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Partition Magic
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:54:37 +0100

Yes, that seems very logical. I'm just about to install PM 4 so I can't say for
sure but I've used PM 3 and discovered that deleting and immediately recreating a
partition before the root partition will also confuse lilo. I thought lilo saw
the partitions in the physical order of the disk, but creation time seems to have
something to do with it too. My old / was hda4, but after deleting and 

Linux-Misc Digest #985

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #985, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 14:13:13 EST

Contents:
  Solution for "Kernel 2.2.x seems to hang" after Uncopressing kernel (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: Video Card not working with X Windows ("Nitehawk")
  Re:  64MB RAM ("Danko Butorac")
  RPM Question ("PG@Root")
  Re: PPP is driving me crazy  Plese help me ("Neil D. Schafer")
  Re: KERNEL 2.2.0 failed (Frank Riha)
  Netscape 4.04 closes (Henry Meyerding)
  Re: fetchmail as daemon (Bill Curtis)
  Re: Changing the default server depths ??? (Larry)
  Re: [Q]how to swap Ctrl/CapsLock keys (Dan Mack)
  Re: which distribution package do you recommend? (Lars Weber)
  FTP Problem using Netscape ("John Podmayersky")
  PIKT, Problem Informant/Killer Tool, v1.2 released (Robert Osterlund)
  Re: Network performance 3c589c (Andreas Hinz)
  SCSI boot (Michael Yuan)
  Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99 (Matthias Warkus)
  CD-RW Problem - Help Please!! (ali)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Display issue on a Linux workstation (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: ld problems on Debian... (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))



From: Raymond Doetjes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Solution for "Kernel 2.2.x seems to hang" after Uncopressing kernel
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:55:19 +0100

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I had this same problem.
Some-one told me that you should set vga-console to yes in console
drivers. The funny thing might be, that your console drivers button is
disabled.

This is because you prabobly used an old kernel config file. (Rather
lazy then tired; that is my motto) and that is were it goes wrong. Since
some variables don't exist anymore or have been changed and leaves your
configuring tools some what crippled.
So you should re-configure the new 2.2.x kernel from scratch. And then
you can select the vga-console driver. Also a very good tip is to keep
FRAME_BUFFERING set to "no".

Raymond.

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===
 The Rolling Stones knew the truth on Windows 95
...Start me...
I can't compete, with the riders in the other heats
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From: "Nitehawk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Video Card not working with X Windows
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:58:35 +0100

Your Vid card is not supported until XFree86 3.3.3.1
you'll have to download this.
and then choose the XF_SVGA server.

gr

Nitehawk



Zachary Echlin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Hi,

I have a 4 MM Diamond Stealth II S220.  How do I setup X windows for my
video card?  What X Server do I use?  Is there another card its
compatible with?  Xconfigurator is having trouble probing my video
card.  Please help me!

Thank you for your time,
Zachary




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From: "Danko Butorac" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:  64MB RAM
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:51:37 +0100


Joel Shellman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Kaustav Bhattacharya wrote:

 How do I tell Linux (Redhat5.2) that I have 128MB RAM?  At the moment
 when I top, it only recognises 64MB RAM.  No wonder loading KDE and
 Netscape 4.5 totally mashes up the machine to 286 speeds!

 Kozzey

There is a directive that you need to enter into the
/etc/lilo.conf file and then rerun lilo. It's an append
directive with mem=128M or something... sorry I can't recall
the exact syntax.


Exact syntax for append command could be found in man pages, but for this
problem you could insert line:
append="mem=128M"
into your lilo.conf, and then rerun lilo to update boot sector.



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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:05:19 +
From: "PG@Root" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: RPM Question

I want to try out Gnome, which requires installing libraries of an older
vintage than I already have. Does installing older libraries erase the
newer versions, or does Red Hat RPM (or Linux) keep the various versions
separate?

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From: "Neil D. 

Linux-Misc Digest #986

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #986, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 15:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Ralez Armon)
  Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0 (Frank Riha)
  Re: Linux ("J. S. Jensen")
  Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug? ("Tony Friery")
  Re: Fax-Server for Linux (David Goldstein)
  Re: Circumventing my ISP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: use theramin as input device (Rik van Riel)
  General Protection  messages (Dave Lugo)
  Re: Dial-in TTY ("J. S. Jensen")
  Re: Linux running S-L-O-W on an AMS laptop (Ben Russo)
  Re: hacked login ("Mitchell Maltenfort")
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Jason Hanes)
  Re: how to compile and run a c program in linux? (Ben Russo)
  Need info on OS case of failure (Malinda Klein)
  Re: FTP Problem using Netscape (Ben Russo)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralez Armon)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:50:59 GMT

Sheesh,
what racism.
Got anything against computers?
I can't help being a computer!
We have feelings too, you know!

Just kiddin'.

;) Heh heh.
'Thanks' for the comment, dude! ;)

Peace.

On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:19:51 +, gus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ralez Armon wrote:
 
[snip]

 
 I use WindowsNT, Linux and MacOS. I'm a very experienced computer and
 I really, REALLY know what I'm talking about. My most favourite is
 MacOS. HOLD IT! Let me finish before you jump on me, but nevermind,
 you probably already stopped reading this. 

[snip]

I know it is just a typo, but I always find it amusing when a person
decides to make intelligent arguments and then makes a blunder like this
one ...

"I'm a very experienced computer and I really, REALLY know what I'm
talking about."

Maybe this is a contender for alt.humor.best-of-usenet.

gus


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From: Frank Riha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: 10 Feb 1999 13:34:27 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry) writes:

 On 09 Feb 1999 22:38:41 -0500, David Steuber wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Salgo) writes:
 
 - Kinda scary, huh?
 
 Kinda funny.  Microsoft has the right and the resources to create a
 commercial Linux distribution.  They never will though.
 
 I wonder if anyone would buy it?
 
 Would kinda be neat to have as a war trophy. :-)
 
yea, but there would never be a version 1.0, it would start at 6.0, or 
6.2 or something.  Probably one higher than the latest RH release.

fdr


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From: "J. S. Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:58:52 -0700

Dustin Puryear wrote:

 At the central office we maintain a database created with proprietary
 software written for our SCO OpenServer server...All of the users really
 just need console based access to the information.

 1 - setup a small network in the branch, where all machines are connected
 to the Linux machine

Yes, just have the Linux machine as a default gateway either for the entire
local network, or just a particular subnet.

 2 - have Linux setup to call our server whenever a client machine needed

Use a dial-on-demand mechanism.  diald works.

 3 - have Linux use TCP/IP since this would allow more than one person to

PPP or SLIP the connection to a home-office linux box.

 I am curious if someone has been in this situation. If so, I would like
 to hear some feedback.

The Linux boxen (hate that word :-) that does the routing at the remote
sites need be nothing special.  386s w/ 8meg ram is what I think.  The
dial-in server might need to have more RAM becaus each ppp daemon takes just
less than a meg each.  However, how do you connect to the SCO box now?
Telnet'ing?


--
J. S. Jensen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Paramin.COM



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From: "Tony Friery" tony_@_basoft_d0t_enta_d0t_net
Subject: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 10 Feb 1999 16:02:25 GMT

I also had trouble using Loadlin *before* Win. Had to do reboot to DOS
after windows before LOADLIN. Never did find out why, though, but perhaps
this was due to my HP 7100+ CD Writer which required initialising before
Linux would recognise it, and unfortunately it was the drivers in Win which
did this (Don't have any trouble with an 8100 though)! This was just a
plain vanilla P166 64MB machine with *no* PP cards or anyhing else weird.

Tony.

Rick Onanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Javier Pulido wrote:
 
  ¡¡SOS!!
 
  Problems with the booting of linux in a computer AMD K6-2 (300 MHz)
with
  i430TX (no AGP) and 128 MB, two hard drives and 1 CDROM.  Can you help
me?
 
[Snip]
 
 I have heard of someone who ran loadlin similar to you (boot into win,
then
 

Linux-Misc Digest #987

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #987, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 16:13:15 EST

Contents:
  Re: editing LILO? (fernando)
  FEED Issue on OSS ("William F. O'Shea jr.")
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Steve Cyr")
  XFSTT  emacs: No fonts match... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: KDE is a Memory Hog. (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: SiS 530 Graphics Chip, no hair ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  sendmail-rhcn-8.9.3-1 RPM and SRPM for Red Hat 5.1 and 5.2 (James Bourne)
  Re: cobalt and linux (Ben Russo)
  Re: NT Convert needs security help! (James Youngman)
  Re: Display issue on a Linux workstation (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: Space Station uses 95/NT, disaster imminent (no joke) ("Sean Hayden")
  Re: Terminals (sources of used terminals) (Steven Blair)
  Re: compile redhat 5.2 (Tim Laursen)
  Re: Can Linux share modem with Windows? (Ben Russo)
  Linux X on Artist Eton Pro notebook w/ATI chipset?? (Lars Weber)
  Re: Terminal Emulators. . . (Rob Clark)
  Re: hacked login (Graffiti)



From: fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: editing LILO?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:35:16 +0500

edit /etc/lilo.conf 
change what you want (you can man lilo.conf to get more information)
run "lilo" to write the information into the MBR

walt wrote:
 
 Here's a simple question; how can I edit LILO so that I have more time
 to hit TAB then type in my selection? Can it be edited to wait
 indefinately?All help appreciated!..walt

-- 

This are my personal opinions
Real email: sanabriaf at yahoo dot com

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From: "William F. O'Shea jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FEED Issue on OSS
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:51:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FEED Magazine is featuring a special issue on Free Software and Open
Source. It includes a dialog with Richard Stallman, head of the Free
Software Foundation and MacArthur grant winner; Eric Raymond, author of
"The Cathedral and the Bazaar" and The New Hacker's Dictionary and
proponent of "open source"; and Eric Allman, president of Sendmail, Inc.
The rest of the issue will be unvelied all through next week.  It will
include interviews with the creator of GNOME and Perl creator Larry
Wall, an article on free software's evolutionary claims, and a history
of the free software movement.

Check it out: http://www.feedmag.com


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From: "Steve Cyr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:39:56 -0800


James Ewing wrote in message ...

I love these off-topic threads! Makes linux.misc much more entertaining.

On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Io wrote:

  the
  biggest hurdle in the Manhattan Project was likely just figuring out
how
  to 1) isolate the pure form of uranium needed, and 2) figiuring out how
  to design an enclosure to facilitate said slamming of pieces together).
 
  --
 
  Paul Doherty


 It was my understanding the largest issue was the design of the shaped
 charges and the critical nature of getting them to detonate at the exact
 same time to "crunch" the uranium to critical mass.



The Manhattan project made two kinds of bombs - a Uranium bomb (Fat
Man) and a Plutonium bomb (Little Boy). Evidently a Uranium bomb is easier
to detonate than a Plutonium bomb because it reaches critical mass more
easily (physists are welcome to flame me on this point!).

The Fat Man U235 bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima was described by one
author as 'a stove pipe with a Uranium plug aimed toward a lump of Uranium
in a stove belly' (paraphrased). The Plutonium bomb, which Nagasaki
received, required precise timed detonation of lense shaped charges around
a spherical Plutonium mass.

There is much speculation as to why the US needed to drop two bombs when
one should have sufficed. My opinion is that they wanted to test the
Plutonium bomb. The one live test in New Mexico was of a Uranum 235 bomb
and I think the politicians and scientists were curious if the Plutonium
bomb would work. It answered their questions, but was a bit rough on the
poor residents of Nagasaki...


The justification I heard for the second detonation at Nagasaki was that
the US felt is was necessary to demostrate that they really were capable
of building more than one of these things.  But the Nagasaki bomb was the
last one they had--it would take months to make any more, because the
processes for making the U235  Plutonium were so slow.

If only one was needed, why didn't Japan surrender after the first one at
Hiroshima?  An argument could be made that they needed a little more
persuading.


Jim Ewing





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: XFSTT  emacs: No fonts match...
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:28:03 GMT

I've recently installed the true type fontserver xfstt (09.10),
and it works; eg.,

xterm -fn "-*-courier 

Linux-Misc Digest #988

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #988, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 17:13:15 EST

Contents:
  Help configure cron ("Lee Allen")
  Diamond Monster MX 300 Sound Card (MegaSurge)
  cannot install qmail as an rpm ("Anne Edwards")
  util-linux = 2.9g as rpm? ("G. Pollack")
  util-linux =2.9g as rpm? ("G. Pollack")
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Steve Cyr")
  Trouble detecting ModemBlaster Modem under Linux (Stephen Proctor)
  The Importance of Stable URLs. (Fred Flatstone)
  SuSE / F-keys over telnet (Tobin Fricke)
  Re: how to compile and run a c program in linux? (Timothy J. Lee)
  What are /boot/System.map* and /boot/module-info* ? (Terry Husie)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Eugene O'Neil)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: I NEED HELP TOO !! (fernando)
  Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Richard Steiner)



From: "Lee Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help configure cron
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:15:42 -0500

I've got a real basic question about configuring cron.  I am using Caldera
Linux 1.2, with the 2.0.33 kernel.

/etc/crontab as shipped by Caldera contains lots of nifty cleanup stuff.
But I don't think they are actually running.

After reading the man pages for cron and crontab, I think I am supposed
to
"crontab -u root -l" to see the cron table for entries that are schedule to
be run as root (there aren't any)
"crontab -u root /etc/crontab" to 'load' the entries from /etc/crontab into
the cron table

After doing these steps, and then running the first command again to see
what is in the cron table... I don't think it's right.  All of the comment
entries in the /etc/crontab file appear in the crontab output.

Am I missing something?  Or did I do it right, and crontab preserves the
comments?

-Lee Allen





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From: MegaSurge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Diamond Monster MX 300 Sound Card
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:43:06 -0800

Does anyone know if this sound card can work with linux?  It doesn't
specifically say in the hardware compatibility but it is SB compatible.
Of course, that doesn't neccessarily mean it will work.  Just curious
thanks.


"If there is a *quintessential zone of human privacy* it is the mind."

If you wish to send me a message using PGP my key is located here:
http://www.teleport.com/~megasurg/pgpmegasurg


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From: "Anne Edwards" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: cannot install qmail as an rpm
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:42:34 -

Hi,
I am trying to rebuild a qmail rpm on redhat linux 5.1. I have read
carefully all the instructions I can get my hands on, but it just stops
before it can build the rpm. Prior to building I have checked functions,
daemontools + patches, ucspi-tcp have been installed.  Can anyone offer any
solution why this is happening - or how I find out what is going wrong.  The
rpm was downloaded from
http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~bguenter/distrib/qmail+patches/1.03/

Any help very much appreciated

Anne.



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From: "G. Pollack" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: util-linux = 2.9g as rpm?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:51:05 -0500

I've just upgraded to kernel 2.2.1, and as a result I need to upgrade
util-linux. This was installed originally from an rpm, and I'd like to
keep it that way so that future redhat upgrades won't be more difficult
than necessary. So far I've only been able to find this in source
format. Can anyone point me to binaries, in rpm format?

Thanks,

-- 
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University

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From: "G. Pollack" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: util-linux =2.9g as rpm?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:53:20 -0500

I've upgraded to kernel 2.2.1, and now I need to update util-linux to
2.9g or better. So far I've only been able to find this as source; can
anyone point me to binaries packaged as rpm? (I've looked at redhats
updates, and it's not there). 

Thanks,

-- 
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University

--

From: "Steve Cyr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:32:27 -0800


Sheri Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...


Io wrote:

  the
  biggest hurdle in the Manhattan Project was likely just figuring out
how
  to 1) isolate the pure form of uranium needed, and 2) figiuring out how
  to design an enclosure to facilitate said slamming of pieces together).
 
  --
 
  Paul Doherty

 It was my understanding the largest issue was the design of the shaped
 charges and the critical nature of getting them to detonate at the exact
 same time to "crunch" the uranium to critical mass.

I believe then that you just agreed with me... no?  :-)


Yes, he did.

Paul






Linux-Misc Digest #989

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #989, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 19:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: KDE opens more and more Xterms each time! (Rick Walker)
  Flush swap manually? (oak)
  Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0 (John Hasler)
  Re: Newbie question (Tommy Willoughby)
  mmap or shmget? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: a.out will not work (Rob O'Connell)
  Re: simple question about text editing tools (Ben Russo)
  Looking for nice editor, FTP a must. (Chad M. Townsend)
  Re: What is on this floppy? (Ben Russo)
  making backups with Zip dives (Neil Zanella)
  Re: KDE is a Memory Hog. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How can I get the 2B channels up in my ISDN Modem using RH5.2 (Xaymara Perez)
  Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug? (concord)
  WindowMaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Bev)
  Re: Linux on a Sparc (Tadpole) (Ben Russo)
  Re: linux printing (Rob Fargher)
  Re: LINUX PPP on a SPARC10 (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Europarlement wishes to ban Proxy servers (Steve Salgo)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Walker)
Subject: Re: KDE opens more and more Xterms each time!
Date: 11 Feb 1999 22:02:46 GMT

Marco Tephlant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Tarcus wrote:

:  This is the problem. IIRC Kde does "session management", it remembers
:  what apps  you had running when you exit and tries to restart them
:  again.  Unfortunately it doesn't pay any heed to the fact that the
:  user might want to start the apps from something more flexible, like
:  the .xinitrc file, so an xterm and xclock starts from that, then KDE
:  starts, remembers that you had some xterms and xclocks running, and
:  starts them.  When you shut down, it remembers how many you had and
:  decides to start them again when you next re-enter KDE.
: 
:  Just switch off session management and remember that Windows95 is the
:  model for KDE.

: I tried removing the xterm and xclock from the xinitrc file but then kde
: wont start at all!
: Thanks for the info,  how do you switch off session management (my KDE
: installation that SuSe
: installed seems broken as none of the KDE help files work!)

As previously mentioned, KDE will restart all apps currently
running when KDE is shutdown.  To live with this feature 
you must remove all invocations from your .xinitrc file.

If you want to turn off session management, KDE 1.2 (IIRC) has a dialog
where you can give regular expressions based on app-name, etc., to
prevent certain classes of apps from getting restarted.   You can use
this for any subset of apps, so you can let KDE manage your xosview,
kwm, khelp, etc., while ignoring terminal apps (xterm, rxvt, kvt).

You have to make a choice of style here.  Using session management with
.xinitrc-started progs is a mess.  Hopefully, now that you know what's
going on, you can find a nice compromise for yourself. 

Best regards,
--
Rick Walker 



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From: oak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Flush swap manually?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:22:25 GMT

 Anyone know how I can manually flush swap?
 I know people say that the system is smart and will do it on it's
own, but that sometimes doesn't happen when running a lot of applications.
 For example, when I'm working with serveral gigabytes of
multimedia files I'll sometimes find that swap is
 being used, but when I want to go back and work on other things that
don't require a lot of memory usage I find that there's
 a lot of stuff still in swap and my hard drive works harder than usual.
Most troubling is my hard drive's red light
which STAYS on, even when the hard drive isn't being accessed!
 There's no way the system can know that I don't intend to work on
anything it has saved in swap, there's no way 
the system can know that I'm going to use a whole new set of
applications so it makes good sense in such cases 
to clear out swap manually.
 The same can be said with memory in ram. Anyone know how I could
flush ram so that there's nothing in the buffers?

Thanks,

-Tony



 Abbreviate - af 2 millenia, a btr wy t rd n wri.
 http://www.eskimo.com/~oak/abr/

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From: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:23:46 GMT

Neil Cherry writes:
 Would kinda be neat to have as a war trophy. :-)

But only if you bought it for $1.99 from Cheap Bytes.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: Tommy Willoughby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:33:17 GMT

Gregory S. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've frequently seen commands referenced with a number in parentheses
 following the command name. What does this refer to?

The number is the section of the man pages. A command might have entries
in multiple sections, and if you just 

Linux-Misc Digest #990

1999-02-11 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #990, Volume #18   Thu, 11 Feb 99 21:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: MetroX (Carl Petersen)
  Joe Linux and Gary's Encyclopedia (Gary Momarison)
  Re: Geochron for Linux? (Marco Tephlant)
  Can printing from linux permanently change printer settings (Chetan Ahuja)
  spoofing/hacking? (John Meissen)
  help with xcopy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Opinions about LyX? (Larry Marso)
  PPP connect but no ping! (Philip Denny)
  Re: More bad news for NT (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: Europarlement wishes to ban Proxy servers (Kelly and Sandy)
  Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Opinions about LyX? (Larry Marso)
  MySQL: Resolveip problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: kernel too big? (jongarmpark)
  Re: KDE RPMs for Red Hat 5.2 ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:51:11 -0500
From: Carl Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MetroX

Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I was wondering if anyone has any experience to share concerning MetroX?
 I am considering ordering MetroX and I was wondering if that's a bad
 idea?
 
 Regards,
 
 BTJ

MetroX works fine with two Millennium II cards in a multi-headed
configuration. Both XFree86 and X11R6.4 will hang the machine unless
one of the cards is removed so I don't really have a choice here. Bugs
in the millennium driver. Well worth the $39 in my case.

-Carl

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From: Gary Momarison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Joe Linux and Gary's Encyclopedia
Date: 10 Feb 1999 11:38:02 -0800


If any of you have appreciated my posts with answers or references
to pages of Gary's Encyclopedia, please submit the site to the
interesting "Joe Linux" site at

http://www.themes.org/joelinux/

They don't want self-submittals for some reason.

Thanks.

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html


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From: Marco Tephlant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Geochron for Linux?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:04:20 +
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

David Steuber wrote:

 Steve Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 - Has anyone seen or heard of a version of geochron for linux?
 -
 - Geochron is a program that shows a map of the world, with real-time
 - display of the areas that are covered by daylight.

 Something like that is included with the SuSE distribution, but I
 forget what it is called :-(

 --
 David Steuber
 http://www.david-steuber.com

Um... err..  It's some kind of wierd active background thing in SuSE.

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Marco



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
Subject: Can printing from linux permanently change printer settings
Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:02:34 GMT

 Hi, 
I (possibly) have a strange problem. I have a fujitsu 10PPV  printer which is 
connected to a Win95 machine on my little home network. On my main linux machine,
I am running samba and am printing to the laser printer through samba. So far I
have printed a few postscript pages and text pages. I have also had to turn on 
the "send EOF" option to get the pages out of the printer. But all that is Ok now.
 
   Now here's the strangenes... My wife who uses the Win95 machine to type stuff
and print from Microsoft Word. These days she is working on her thesis which 
involves a lot of repeated printing of drafts. Suddenly she finds that in her
print-outs, some numbers ( which were in bold BTW) are being printed a little higher
than the rest of the test ... e.g. if she has the ( pseudo marked up)  text:

 fig b3/b

 the bold '3' prints sort of half  way to the superscript position ( keeping the same
font size ). This did not happen in the previous printouts of the same text.
Now it could very well be a Word wierdness but I would like to know whether
it is possible to permanently change the printer settings  using the PCL drivers of
ghostscript or in any other way, printing from linux. And if so, what can I do
to make sure that every time I print from my machine, it resets the original settings
after printing is finished  Any hints or pointers will be appreciated...
 
  Thanks
  Chetan




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From: John Meissen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: spoofing/hacking?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:35:51 -0800

I have someone who appears to be trying to spoof their way into
my network. I tend to get probed 4 or 5 times a day, but this is
getting a little aggressive. I know this isn't originating 
internally because a) the firewall tells me so, and b) all the
other machines are curently powered off :-)

Can anyone give me some pointers on how to track this sucker down?
Can I capture the data in the packets to look at? He seems to
be trying to hit ftp, netbios, and