Re: COpying to Same Inode ....
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Ben Duncan wrote: Is there a way to copy a file from on file system to another and keep the inode number(s) the same on that particular file. I know the inode(s) will have to be free on the receiving file system. I don't know the answer, but i'm curious why you'd want to do that? I'd imagine that it would be a very filesystem specific process. It would also depend on the number of inodes in each filesystem. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
What makes you so sure that the HD is bad? Can you put it into a different box and mount any of the partitions? On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: list My laptop system has gone down while I was using it. When I tried to get it to reboot, it stuck in grub. I used the gentoo live cd to boot from a cdrom and that was successfull. when I tried to mount the /dev/hda3 to root system I got 5 lines of errors, seek could not find etc. I install a 860 meg hd into the system and dos boots right on up and I can play a dos card game. It sounds as if the hd that I was using, the original one, has gone bad. I did take it back to the Dell refurb center where I bought it, after a week they charged me $76 to diagnose that the mobo was bad. They want $175 or that and a install charge of $50. I checked around and find the mobo's cost $125 - $130. Guess they see people as idots whom they can fleece. Not me. Guess I will go look for a new hd for my laptop. cheers -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: XFS filesystem revisited
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Collins Richey wrote: FYI. From time to time we have threads about the use of various filesystems (usually degrades rapidly to my fs is better than your fs). I just happened to be reviewing the current Gentoo Handbook - a work in progress, and I noted the following recommendation for XFS (a favorite of many on this list). 4.i. Creating Filesystems ... [ other fs descriptions] XFS is a filesystem with metadata journaling that is fully supported under Gentoo Linux's xfs-sources kernel. It comes with a robust feature-set and is optimized for scalability. We only recommend using this filesystem on Linux systems with high-end SCSI and/or fibre channel storage and a uninterruptible power supply. Because XFS aggressively caches in-transit data in RAM, improperly designed programs (those that don't take proper precautions when writing files to disk and there are quite a few of them) can lose a good deal of data if the system goes down unexpectedly. ... [ other fs desciptions ] It is interesting that this recommendation is only present for XFS among the journaled filesystem choices. Its also interesting that the documentation that you've referenced hasn't been well updated in over a year. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
On 11/20/03 14:21, Rick Sivernell wrote: Lonnie You do have a point here, I did try a 2nd hd on the laptop, it worked as it should, it was a small drive. The original will not boot, but fdisk can read the partition. grub will start then hang. Can not put this drive in to older laptop as it has a 1 g limit. I would like to test it on a machine that could boot it up. I just have no means to perform this. Any other suggestions here is appreciated, I do not want to buy any thing I do not have to. It is a 12 g hard drive, Fitsitu I beleive. Is the drive still under warranty? If so, you should be able to get an RMA at no charge. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:00pm up 1 day, 22:24, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.04, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache log probe?
On 11/19/03 17:07, Ken Moffat wrote: Anyone have a clue ? What is this, from my apache/access.log? 217.210.77.107 - - [19/Nov/2003:02:07:29 -0800] SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02 \xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\ xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\x b1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb 1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1 [very large SNIP] x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 337 - - This happened twice only this morning. Google is your friend: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum39/1626.htm -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:35pm up 23:59, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.15, 0.10 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
sendmail won't start
I'm trying to do something that is admittedly a bit foolish. I'm trying to get the sendmail RPM from Redhat-7.3 working on my ancient Caldera box. There's really not much Caldera left in it, as I've been upgrading it piecemeal to assorted Redhat RPMs for a while now, but it was last an amalgam of COL-2.4 3.1. At any rate, I got sendmail-8.11.6-27.73 RPM installed, and running the sendmail binary manually does work. Its just the initscript that came with it that fails to work. If i run /etc/init.d/sendmail start i get: Starting sendmail: Usage: daemon program I can start sendmail manually with sendmail -bd -q1h, and it backgrounds itself just fine, so its something wonky in the initscript. Anyone have any suggestions on what might be wrong here? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:25pm up 1 day, 1:49, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache log probe?
On 11/19/03 21:07, Collins Richey wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:56:39 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins Richey wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:37:56 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/19/03 17:07, Ken Moffat wrote: Anyone have a clue ? What is this, from my apache/access.log? 217.210.77.107 - - [19/Nov/2003:02:07:29 -0800] SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02 \xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb 1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\ Google is your friend: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum39/1626.htm An even better friend is plastic or cold hard cash to sign up! g I'll pass until I'm employed again. I'm lost. Could you not access the link? Yes. the link said sign up to view the listings with an icon to the right to inquire for payment. That's bizarre. That's not at all what i get. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:35pm up 1 day, 3:59, 1 user, load average: 0.37, 0.14, 0.05 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sendmail won't start
On 11/19/03 19:59, Joel Hammer wrote: The old script was called mta. What if you try that instead? # /etc/init.d/mta start WARNING: Mail Transfer Agent sendmail selected but not installed. Sure, i could debug where it expects sendmail to be, but i'm feeling lazy :) Or, just write your own script. The startup scripts are complicated only because they need to do a lot of figuring out where things are, etc. Since you know where things are, a startup script customized for your machine might be very simple. Yea, i could do that. I was just hoping to stay true to the RPM, rather than replacing it. Joel On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:35:33PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: I'm trying to do something that is admittedly a bit foolish. I'm trying to get the sendmail RPM from Redhat-7.3 working on my ancient Caldera box. There's really not much Caldera left in it, as I've been upgrading it piecemeal to assorted Redhat RPMs for a while now, but it was last an amalgam of COL-2.4 3.1. At any rate, I got sendmail-8.11.6-27.73 RPM installed, and running the sendmail binary manually does work. Its just the initscript that came with it that fails to work. If i run /etc/init.d/sendmail start i get: Starting sendmail: Usage: daemon program I can start sendmail manually with sendmail -bd -q1h, and it backgrounds itself just fine, so its something wonky in the initscript. Anyone have any suggestions on what might be wrong here? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:30pm up 1 day, 3:54, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: xfce4 build error
Are you using the official source, or a gentoo build? I've built xfce-4.0.1 on a few boxes and never run into anything like that. I don't even have a sn.h on any of my boxes. On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: List Trying to upgrade xfce to xfce4 on gentoo, I get the following error on compile. Is there some env var missing that gentoo may not be setting? Any one else update to xfce4 on gentoo. cheers if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..-I/usr/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/xfce4 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/xfce4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../common -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\/usr/share/locale\ -DDATADIR=\/usr/share/xfwm4\ -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -MT xfwm4-events.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/xfwm4-events.Tpo \ -c -o xfwm4-events.o `test -f 'events.c' || echo './'`events.c; \ then mv -f .deps/xfwm4-events.Tpo .deps/xfwm4-events.Po; \ else rm -f .deps/xfwm4-events.Tpo; exit 1; \ fi In file included from client.c:51: startup_notification.h:31:22: libsn/sn.h: No such file or directory In file included from events.c:46: startup_notification.h:31:22: libsn/sn.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [xfwm4-events.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[2]: *** [xfwm4-client.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xfwm4-4.0.0/work/xfwm4-4.0.0/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xfwm4-4.0.0/work/xfwm4-4.0.0' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: xfce-base/xfwm4-4.0.0 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 31, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: laptop screen blanking wont stop!
Ya, i'm pretty sure that its a BIOS setting, if its the thinkpad that your employer gave you ;) On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Aaron Grewell wrote: Perhaps a BIOS setting? On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:47, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got a thinkpad without APM/ACPI installed. I've set 'setterm -blank 0' in rc.local, I've set 'xset s off' in .xnitrc, I've turned off DPMS in XF86Config, but the fscking thing still blanks itself! What's worse is that video doesn't come back once this happens! Anyone know what I'm missing? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Live fast, die old, and make sure everyone knows you were there. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uTPy2MO5UukaubkRAo5OAKCVzTmU4bCG6wfuFwEVpyI9ZjeZzwCgiZQ8 ti72gA7bfif6F/dX+KDp6nk= =NG6S -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: html and web application
On 11/17/03 08:01, dep wrote: a couple of weeks ago, when the textmaker sale was coming up, there was some discussion here of a wysiwig program to make html editing easier. while poking around today, i found this, which looks promising, and which appears to be free: http://www.nvu.com/ That's written by one of the (ex-)Mozilla core developers. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:35pm up 1 day, 7:56, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.13, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Net Llama! wrote: What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? But there IS a history, dating back to April, see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88456 and updating glibc to glibc-2.3.2-27.9.6 hosed my system, rendering it unbootable. For all co-victims, here's the steps that finally reanimated my RH9 box, quoted from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/5/2oo3/05/4/57607 Well, then i must just be lucky, because I didn't need to go through any of that ordeal. All I had to do was upgrade to the last glibc release (late yesterday) and the problems created by the former (from early yesterday) were solved. Granted, I'm using my own 2.4.22-xfs kernel, and not Redhat's, so perhaps that is why i'm not as plagued by this fiasco as others. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar + bunzip2
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, M.W. Chang wrote: how to decompress file.tar.bz2 with tar and bunzip2? `bunzip2 -dkc file.tar.bz2 | tar xvf` didn't work. Define didn't work. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rms: i'm clueless, dammit!
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Jack Berger wrote: Good analogy on the sears tools bit, but we do use a lot of the gnu tools on our solaris systems. That's cause Solaris is almost unusable with the tools that are native to the OS. Im still baffled to this day why anyone voluntarily uses Sun hardware or Solaris, but that's prolly an entirely different topic for a different mailing list. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Collins Richey wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:05:05 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consuming 0.8K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: On 11/13/03 17:04, dep wrote: quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? Indeed. GCC 2.96; glibc 2.0.7; NPTL; problems running RPM on kernel 2.5. Shall I continue? I'm curious. Until last year I had avoided RH like the plague. Were these glitches only for desktop users, or did they propagate all the fubars to their server releases as well? Up until recently, Redhat didn't have a distinct server release. It was the numbered releases, and that was all. Ironicly, the Advanced Server and Enterprise Server product line has been completely uneffected by this mess, so Redhat seems to be capable of delivering sane, stable packages when they find it justifiable. gcc-2.96 from RH-7.0 is the only package that I've run into on Redhat (long ago) that had some severe problems. NPTL was contraversial, however it certainly wasn't unstable, or broken. Redhat never released a 2.5.x kernel, so anyone having problems with RPM on that kernel has self-inflicted wounds that are not redhat's fault. I'm not at all familiar with a glibc-2.0.7 issue, primarily because that had to have occured before i had started using Linux back in late 1998. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: way ot
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Collins Richey wrote: I'm too much of an email/etc youngster to understand shortcuts like :-) and ;-) My google searches have produced no results. Where are these defined? rotate your head 270 degree, and look at them again. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: A First Look: Next-Generation Debian Installer
This is actually redhat's text based installer, anaconda that Debian is using. Its worth noting that it does not include Redhat's kickstart functionality. On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Collins Richey wrote: FYI Some Breaking News.. A First Look: Next-Generation Debian Installer http://www.linmagau.org For those of you who aren't familiar with the site, it's work bookmarking. linmagau issues a lot of informative howto reports. As a side note, they are quite debian-centric. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spamassassin's sa-learn
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Myles Green wrote: My hardware: Athlon 1800+ 1.5GB PC2700 DDR RAM (Samsung) nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 (using nvidia drivers) PS/2 keyboard USB wheel mouse (Logitech) using IMPS/2 protocol I've run Memtest86 on the RAM, one stick at a time and all three at once, with no errors - even after 48 hours. FWIW, I'm not running a 2.6 kernel yet. My symptoms are that X keeps crashing with no errors showing in the logs. It's gotten so bad I gave up using X several days ago and gone back to the basics as my signature suggests. What version of X? Define 'crashing'. Are we talking about locking up the box so that you can't even ping it, or just X going toes up? You might want to try running CTCS (search freshmeat) on the box. It stresses (and tests) all the hardware far better than memtest86. Have you verified that this isn't an overheating problem, or dust bunnies? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fedora getting some bad reviews
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Collins Richey wrote: This is one reason I prefer the gentoo model - incremental releases (that usually aren't too painful) over a long period. Unlike the RH approach, gentoo doesn't mark a new compiler release as stable for common use until most all packages work with the new compiler. I assume you're referring to the gcc-2.96 debacle with RH-7.0. That's ancient history, especially seeing as how gentoo didn't even exist at the time. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, Since we've been talking about updates, I got this today from the Emperor Linux folks, who installed RH on a couple of work laptops. -Original Message- Customers running Red Hat 9.0, Red Hat has recently released a badly broken automatic update of GLIBC and nptl onto their Red Hat Network (RHN) service. Please _DO_NOT_ download this update onto your system, nor any other associated updates. We have received quite a few reports already from our customers that the GLIBC update has broken their RH9 systems. Symptoms include: - Inability to log in to X with Gnome - Can't startx if gnome is your WM - rpm broken (can't open pkg database) - breaks anything useing gthread-posix.c / pthread_getschedparam I installed the glibc, nscd, and nptl-devel stuff all using redhat network. At that point, things started going wrong. rpm would no longer work. I tried a reboot, and was then no longer able to log in via X except via a failsafe mode. (Both failsafe and console still worked, although even in those logins rpm was still broken.) At this time we are working for a fix for these problems. The final fix should probably come from Red Hat, but that may take some time. We will try to get this fixed as soon as possible. It appears that KDE is unaffected (so you can still get into your system to work). -- Lincoln In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom Condon Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Redhat did re-release the packages about an hour ago. Fixed my problems on RH9. On 11/13/03 14:32, Michael Hipp wrote: For once I'm glad I procrastinated about installing a security update. Thanks, Michael Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, Since we've been talking about updates, I got this today from the Emperor Linux folks, who installed RH on a couple of work laptops. -Original Message- Customers running Red Hat 9.0, Red Hat has recently released a badly broken automatic update of GLIBC and nptl onto their Red Hat Network (RHN) service. Please _DO_NOT_ download this update onto your system, nor any other associated updates. We have received quite a few reports already from our customers that the GLIBC update has broken their RH9 systems. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 3:30pm up 14:17, 2 users, load average: 0.18, 0.27, 0.51 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
On 11/13/03 17:04, dep wrote: quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? What last time? Let's not play revisionist historians, ok? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:10pm up 15:57, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.30, 0.46 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OSS Alternative to RealPlayer
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: Can anyone point me to an OSS alternative to RealPlayer for streaming audio. (If it had both Linux and Windows versions would be even better.) Can't help with the windoze side, but mplayer can do realaudio realvideo. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ReiserFS Problem
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, I've been running SuSE 8.0 on my home system (primary desktop/mail-reader/web surfer) for some time. My boot and / disk is a 20GB EIDE disk (master on 1st IDE). I decided to upgrade to SuSE 9.0 while adding an additional NIC and a 250GB EIDE drive. So I carefully saved some data and shut down normally. I disconnected the old boot disk to insure nothing could happen to it. I had troubles booting off the new disk, so I re-connected the old disk to boot from it. No luck. The reiserfs is showing problems. The error message asks for the root password to allow me to repair it and says it is mounted read only, so it shows how to mount it r/w so I can run reiserfsck and fix it. I try that. Can't run portions of the fix/test if it is mounted read/write. So I tried it in read only mode. It can't run other portions of the test/fix if it is read only. Neither way can complete the fix of the disk so it will boot or is even usable. BIOS recognizes the disk. The /boot partition is ext2, the / partition is reiserfs. I'm open to suggestions. At work now, so I can't test this, but I suspect that I should have popped in my Knoppix CD and gotten it up and running and used it to fix the hard drive. Does that sound feasible? There may be a more severe hardware problem (see following plea for help). I'll admit outright up front, that i know nothing about Reiser, but with all the other filesystems i've used, you can't run a fsck unless its unounted or readonly. Maybe reiserFS is different in that respect, but i'd be quite surprised if they managed to design the FS so that it could be writable while being repaired. If you've got KNOPPIX, or some other rescue bootable disk handy, i'd suggest using that and not even mounting the / partition, and trying to repair it again. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem booting from disk
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Tom Wilson wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:31, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: [snip of tales of woe] In a previous message I mentioned that it also balks on booting from the previous HD, claiming problems with the ReiserFS partition (which should have been fine after a gentle shut down). This implies a problem with the hardware of the motherboard, or the BIOS, to my non-hardware oriented mind. Not being facetious but have you set the HD jumpers to be the master or stand-alone? Make sure the IDE cable is plugged into the mb with the pins aligned right? Older motherboards often don't have the guides on them. Also, some bioses (IBM's come to mind) keep giving the error until you enter the bios and exit saving changes. Actually, Intel mobos have a BIOS option to 'clear errors', which is neccesary or you keep getting the same failure, over over, even if the problem no longer exists. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Matrix III
On 11/12/03 19:32, Joel Hammer wrote: Just in case you've read the bad reviews and got turned off, Matrix III is at least 2x as good as Matrix II. The reviewers must like mindless, repetitive kung fu and must not like interesting dialogue that probes the meaning of the human experience, heavily interlaced with the usual astounding special effects. There was even some drama in this one. There wasn't much kung fu, either, must to my relief. Oh yea, it would really have been great if Keanu Reeves had pretended to act, but, I guess wishing for Sean Connery in every scene spoils some of the fun. I saw it, and found it to be one of the worst movies i've ever seen, completely devoid of plot, acting, or suspense. Save your money for LOTR-RTK. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:42am up 1 day, 10:29, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.04, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pictures from the desert
On 11/11/03 17:06, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth burns: On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 20:39, Net Llama! wrote: On 11/09/03 16:12, burns wrote: Nice pics, Lonnie. What are the 'beehive' buildings? Charcoal Kilns: Ahhh. I was afraid you were going to tell me they were ancient Druid dwellings. Presumably, they had some wood to make the charcoal from... it looks mostly like scrub-brush, e.g. mesquite, et al. Mostly, they use bones of Canadians who wander too far south. ;-) They don't call it death valley for nothin. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:42am up 1 day, 10:29, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.04, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SBC Yahoo DSL
On 11/10/03 19:25, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Anyone have any experience with SBC Yahoo DSL and Linux? I believe it's PPPoE setup but I can't figure out how to generate or find a username and password... Then, I'm attempting to use an ethernet card to plug into the DSL Modem. So far I've seen nothing. SBC Yahoo wants you to install their DSL Dialer software from CD... Anyway, if you have any advice, that would be great! I've been using it at home for nearly 18 months, without any problems. Its a standard PPPoE setup. The email address is the username, the password is, well, the password. Let me know if you need further assitance. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:42am up 1 day, 10:29, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.04, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE 3.2.0 beta and XMMS problems
On 11/09/03 09:04, Jerry McBride wrote: MPG123 or MPG321 both still work, if only I could find a decent GUI/Frontend for them. I've been using loving playmp3list for years: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~urban/projects/playmp3list/ -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:42am up 1 day, 10:29, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.04, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pictures from the desert
On 11/09/03 16:12, burns wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 12:07, Net Llama! wrote: If anyone is interested, i just returned from a trip to the deserts of California Nevada (specifically the area in around Death Valley). I've got alot of pictures posted here: http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/ Nice pics, Lonnie. What are the 'beehive' buildings? Charcoal Kilns: http://www.terragalleria.com/parks/np-image.deva2181.html http://totalescape.com/active/campstuff/NP/interest/charkilns.html http://www.death-valley.us/article225.html http://www.customvisuals.net/gallery_directories/prints/s_Ken_Ferrell_Images_203.html -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:42am up 1 day, 10:29, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.04, 0.04 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT pictures from the desert
If anyone is interested, i just returned from a trip to the deserts of California Nevada (specifically the area in around Death Valley). I've got alot of pictures posted here: http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/ -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:06am up 11:53, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.11, 0.15 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: PHP configure with mhas
Ever hear of Google? http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=too%20few%20arguments%20to%20function%20%60ap_register_output_filter%27safe=imagesie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8lr=hl=en On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Swapana Ghosh wrote: Hi Our server is redhat8.0 with kernel kernel-2.4.18-14. The /PHP/ was already installed while the OS was installed, the version of php is *php-4.2.2-8.0.8*. Now we need the mhash library.. For that we have to configure PHP with the /mhash path/ .. So at my local server i tried as follows: - Uninstalled the rpm of PHP - copy the php.tar.gz then untar then congfigure with the following options [EMAIL PROTECTED] php-4.2.2]# ./configure --with-apxs2 --with-mysql --with-mhash=/usr/local/lib --disable-pear - configure is OK but while doing *make* it is giving /ERROR/, i am giving few lines from the end. _ api_apache2.c:534: too few arguments to function `ap_register_output_filter' sapi_apache2.c:535: warning: passing arg 3 of `ap_register_input_filter' makes pointer from integer without a cast sapi_apache2.c:535: too few arguments to function `ap_register_input_filter' make[3]: *** [sapi_apache2.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/swapana/php-4.2.2/sapi/apache2filter' _ - apache /mysql is already there , moreover the version was installed 4.2.2-8.0.8 But the php which i have downloaded that is only php-4.2.2 Please give me some direction for the next step... Thanks in advance __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Motherboard advice
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Harry G wrote: I am about to build another PC to be used as a workstation. I picked up a box of 5 new Seagate SCSI 3 50 gig drives for $250.00 total, so I am thinking of using some them for this. Since SCSI controller boards are about $100.00 or so, I was thinking of using a server mother biard with built in SCSI. A couple of questions: 1. Is the format usually the same (physicallly) so they will fit in a standard case? (And what is the standard size?) There are half full height SCSI drives out there. But other than the height, the dimensions are the same as IDE. 2. Any downfalls that you would know of going this route? Nope. SCSI is almost always preferable to IDE, once you get cost out of the picture. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Moving to London OT
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Federico Voges wrote: Hi, Just wanted to let you know that I've accepted a job in London (UNIX Admin). This is a big change (and challenge) for me (I'm from Argentina). Luckily I have a friend (he's the one who recommended me for the job) and my sister living there. I'm leaving to London this saturday (yup, not much time but they have someone by monday) :) BTW: my SxS mirror will continue on-line as I'm keeping the server here. PS: Anyone in the London area? PS2: I can't believe the ammount of trash I've collected over the last 7 years (I've cleaned up my computer related inventory) :-D Congratulations, and good luck. That's a change of hemispheres, countries languages all in one day. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux-2.6.0-test8 compile - How do I change the default compiler?
Set the environment variable CC equal to the path to the gcc that you want to use. On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, James McDonald wrote: Hi Y'all, I'm running RH9.0 with a gcc --version output of gcc (GCC) 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5) and a gcc296 --version output of 2.96 I've tried editing the Makefile for the linux-2.6.0-test8 source to have HOSTCC = gcc296 HOSTCXX = g++296 CC = gcc296 But It complains about frame pointers Should I A. Just compile it with 3.2.2 (which appears to work) B. follow the recommendation in the kernel documentation and use 2.9x and if so... How do I get it to point to the gcc 2.96 compiler? * NEVER MIND ** I just revisited it as I was trying to write this and discovered that I had CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y in my .config and changing it to # CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER is not set fixed the issue. grrr... 4yrs of constant use and I'm still a newbie sometimes. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Well somewhat
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Susan Macchia wrote: Win4Lin only support Windows 98, not 2k, etc, the last I heard. Other than that there is VMware (which works very well, unless you upgrade the kernel). VMWare works fine with every 2.4.x kernel, up to including 2.4.22. 2.6.0 is another story, however. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: xfs_check permission denied.
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, M.W. Chang wrote: I booted my system with Knoppix 3.3 and attempted to xfs_check a xfs partition on the harddisk. it reported an error permission denied. what could possibly caused that? Are you doing this as root? Knoppix, by default, doesn't make you root. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
backwards
http://www.linux-sxs.org.mirror.sytes.org/ -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gcc-3.2.1 and htdig-3.1.6
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, M.W. Chang wrote: I updated the gcc to 3.2.1 (following the gcc notes). When I tried to compiled htdig, it complained about missing libstdc++ libraries. How could that be possible? I checked that the gcc source tree had a subdirectory libstdc++. What was the exact error? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: strange cd problem
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, dep wrote: greets, folks! this one is kind of weird. i have a cd, burned by a friend, containing data in mbox format that i really need to get to. i can open the cd in, say, midnight commander, and can view the files, no problem. but if i try to copy those files to the hard drive, i get an input/output problem error. any idea what in the world this might be about? A bad CD, or failing HW. Something is failing when attempting to read or write the data. How are you copying the data? If not with the command line, then i'd suggest trying that, and checking dmesg or messages for useful errors. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: strange cd problem
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, dep wrote: quoth Net Llama!: | A bad CD, or failing HW. Something is failing when attempting to | read or write the data. How are you copying the data? If not with | the command line, then i'd suggest trying that, and checking dmesg or | messages for useful errors. it says, at the prompt, input/output error. the drive is recognized at boot, no problem, mounts uneventfully, and, as i said, the data seem entirely viewable. cd was burned iso9660 with joliet extensions, which module i have and which seems to work properly -- i do get the full long filenames, which is what joliet does. The filesystem type, and the module being used isn't really relevant to the problem you're reporting. Does this happen with any CD, or just that one? If its just that one, i'd suggest attempting to mount it in a different box to see if the behavior changes. Also, you should check dmesg and/or messages for additional errors. You can also try using the -v switch with cp for additional verbosity. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux users' mailing list down? (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:35:21 -0600 From: Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux users' mailing list down? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Susan Macchia wrote: | For the last several weeks, when I try to access the mailing list (to change my | subscription from temp on, to off, or to look at the archives | (http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users), I get the following error: | | | Not Found | The requested URL /mailman/listinfo/linux-users was not found on this server. | | Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.linux-sxs.org Port 80 | | | | I have tried several of the mirrors with the same or similar results. Since I | can't read the list mail, or get the digest, could someone let me know what | gives? | | TIA, | | Susan | Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users This is rather self explanatory, but you'll notice in the message footer above that it's smtp.linux-sxs.org not linux-sxs.org. Try it, I bet you get a different result. Not when she fails to get any list mail, and can't access the archives. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: database of rcs and rpm
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, M.W. Chang wrote: in openlinux, rpm-3.0.6 uses /var/lib/rpm to store her databases. what about rcs-5.7? what does rcs have to do with this? and does it apply to other distro? Does what apply to other distros? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: database of rcs and rpm
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, M.W. Chang wrote: that shoudl be covered when I backup /home/* RCS doesn't use central databases, but an RCS directory under each directory where RCS is used. where is the CVSROOT? what did you mean by one or more? Depends on how you set up the repository. I still don't understand what rcs has to do with rpm, other than them both starting with the letter r. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Redhat Enterprise Linux 3
Anyone have a copy, or know where I can acquire a copy of RHAS-3.0? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi; I've got an app that wants libc.so.6 (which I have) but it tells me that it wants the version from glibc-2.2.4, while I have something a little older, like glibc-2.2.1. glibc-2.2.4 and all its parts is a big thing (maybe over 10 MB) and I seem to remember from the list that upgrading this is a box breaker if not done right and that the suggestion was that it is easier just to get a distro with this already part of the installation. Is my memory correct or is this something that actually slides in with ease? No, your memory is correct, although upgrading glibc isn't neccesarily hard, its just not simple either. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Leon Goldstein wrote: Net Llama! wrote: No. You're not removing glibc-2.2.1, you're just adding glibc-2.2.4. Have you tried the old symlink trick? Which trick is that? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Using the bigmem kernel
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Simper, Brian D wrote: I am using Red Hat Linux 9. Under what circumstances does the bigmem kernel get loaded and used by the install program? I had heard it was used if you got more than 4 GB of memory but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with using it. Are there other specific circumstances when it works best? Kernel memory support is 800MB - 4GB and 4GB - 64GB. I'm not sure which Redhat's kernel covers, but i'd imagine that tis the higher of the two ranges. The only advantage is if you've got a large amount of memory. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: A prime candidate for Lindows? Perhaps Xandros... There's also Redmond Linux, or whatever they're calling it now. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: Lycoris (Debian based) is supposed to be good also, but once again not free. Unless they really changed direction, Lycoris is based on Caldera, not Debian. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Robert E. Raymond wrote: 1. Mozilla -- If you want the latest, you will have problems with Flash (the one from Macromedia did not work when I tried it some months back. May be fixed by now though) and Java (Using Sun, Blackdown or IBM? Remember that for the Plug-In to work, you need the glibc 3.x compiled version-- that rules out IBM, and you may need to add LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 as an environment variable) Yup, I see this. I didn't have any problem getting the 1.4 RPM from rawhide working on either the laptop or the destkop, but he still doesn't have java on his desktop ;) A word of warning. Redhat's mozilla RPMs are a PoS. They do some truly evil unintuitive things with mouse text highlighting that will slowly drive you mad. I ended up removing their mozilla altogether, and installing the official binary tarball. 3. Fonts -- yeah, it looks really crappy when you first install Red Hat. Better get the Subpixel font positioning thing working, or reduce the size till Anti-Alising doesn't kick in, but it fonts don't look jaggy or blurry. Believe it or not, the fonts looked great! Maybe it's the 1400x1050 res. tho... Fonts in RH9 are gorgeous, or at least ISO-8859-1. Perhaps the asian charsets aren't anti-aliased like the western ones? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: yet another .pdf question
You could always print the pages to postscript, and then open it with ghostview. On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, dep wrote: i have a very long pdf file, several pages of which i would like to be able to save to a separate pdf file. i can find no way of doing this without buying very expensive software. does anyone know of a way to do this? acrobat reader has no provision for it that i can find, and for some reason the linux pdf tools shipped with suse 8.2 are capable of opening no pdf file, from any source, that i can find. thanks. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. I see nothing wrong with it. How would you propose that the GPL be enforced? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. I see nothing wrong with it. How would you propose that the GPL be enforced? What I read from this is an interpretation of the GPL that could loosely be expressed as what is mine is mine, what is yours is also mine. I personally don't believe that such an interpretation has any real benefit, although I'm certain that proponents of the GPL might disagree. There is no interpretation. The GPL clearly explicitly requires that you release the source for your work, and all derrivitive works. The FSF is enforcing that requirement. I'll ask again, how would you propose that the GPL be enforced, if not via: 0) Polite requests, then if ignored 1) Less polite requests, then if still ignored 2) Legal action -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: httpd process is becoming *zombie*
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Swapana Ghosh wrote: Our server is Cobalt raq4r.Last few days I am noticing that sometimes the process under httpd is being killed. And the process becoming *zombie*. I checked all the cron jobs but did not find any clue which is to be the cause of httpd *zombie* process. Have you bothered to check the apache error log? Random cronjobs shouldn't normally have any connection to other processes becoming zombies. Which version of apache are you running? Which kernel version are you using? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: httpd process is becoming *zombie*
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Swapana Ghosh wrote: Yes i have checked the apache error log.. But i am not gettung any clue there for the processes which are becoming *zombie* under httpd . Here is the version of apache and kernel of our server. server [root /root]# rpm -q apache apache-1.3.20-RaQ4_1C1 server [root /root]# rpm -q kernel kernel-2.2.16C28_III-4 Errr...you might want to consider joining the rest of us in the 21st century. Those versions are scary old, buggy, and full of security exploits. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SMPEG
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote: I've been trying to compile smpeg-0.4.4 and it keeps crapping out with the following message. I'm runing Slackware 9.1 (upgraded from 9.0 to 9.1 using swaret) No matter what I try, I get this same ending. Any ideas? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/ted/smpeg-0.4.4# gcc -g -O2 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -DTHREADED_AUDIO -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNDEBUG -I.. -DNOCONTROLS -I. -I./audio -I./video -o .libs/plaympeg plaympeg.o .libs/libsmpeg.so -L/usr/lib -lSDL -lpthread -lm -lSDL -lpthread -lm -lSDL -lpthread -lm -L/usr/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib -lSDL -lpthread -lm .libs/libsmpeg.so: undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigned)' .libs/libsmpeg.so: undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' .libs/libsmpeg.so: undefined reference to `operator delete[](void*)' .libs/libsmpeg.so: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status What version of binutils do you have? You might want to try updating to something newer, if possible. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X won't start
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Allan Rabenau wrote: I've done that (at least in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts directory). Each subdirectory now has a new fonts.dir file. No luck. Is not the unix/:7100 error relating to a URL:port notation? If so, that would lead me to suspect a net communication error, although I am able to ping various IP addresses (from level 3). To recap my last suggestion, if you've got sshd running on the box, i'd advise attempting to run any X app remotely to see if it will fire up. That should clarify whether the problem is truly an X configuration issue, or something else entirely. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X won't start
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Ian Stephen wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 05:49, Allan Rabenau wrote: I've done that (at least in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts directory). Each subdirectory now has a new fonts.dir file. No luck. Is not the unix/:7100 error relating to a URL:port notation? If so, that would lead me to suspect a net communication error, although I am able to ping various IP addresses (from level 3). -Al I had the same error on my RH 8 re cannot find default font fixed. As Mr Bandel said, your font named 'fixed' is missing. Re-installing XFree86-base-fonts rpm fixed that for me. Check your XFree86 logs though, when this happened to me /var/lib/xkb was gone too (I think the log actually mentioned /etc/X11/xkb/compiled which is a sym-link to /var/lib/xkb). Reinstalling the XFree86 rpm replaced that. The bad news is that this kept reoccurring every few days on my system. Never did find out why. After a new install of RH 9 failed with hardware trouble warnings I installed Mandrake 9.1 and it's been fine ever since. Sorry I didn't have time to figure out the root of the problem. Maybe 'root' was the problem! :^) IanS I had this same problem (the error, not the solution proposed above), when i had improperly restored a RH9 install from backups, and the perms/ownership of alot of stuff was horked. Check the list archives, cause i'm pretty sure that i posted my solution. This was about 3 or 4 months back (like May). -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, M.W. Chang wrote: are these options available from make menuconfig? Yes. I'm not aware of any options that aren't. James McDonald wrote: # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set The standard /boot/config-2.4.20-8 contains the above settings which is fine what your problem is -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RH9 and xedit
Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit has started to annoy me a lot. I like xedit, because its a bare bones X text editor. Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought was part of XFree86)? Anyone know how i could get xedit without building XFree86 from source? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RH9 and xedit
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit has started to annoy me a lot. I like xedit, because its a bare bones X text editor. Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought was part of XFree86)? Anyone know how i could get xedit without building XFree86 from source? Did older versions of RH include it? Could you just copy it from an older one? RH-7.3 does. I know i could try copying the binary, but i'm just puzzled as to why its missing. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RH9 and xedit
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: On 10/9/2003 1:13 PM, I believe that Net Llama! wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit has started to annoy me a lot. I like xedit, because its a bare bones X text editor. Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought was part of XFree86)? Anyone know how i could get xedit without building XFree86 from source? Did older versions of RH include it? Could you just copy it from an older one? RH-7.3 does. I know i could try copying the binary, but i'm just puzzled as to why its missing. Hmmm... FWIW, it's there in RHL 8.0. /usr/X11R6/bin/xedit $ rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/bin/xedit XFree86-tools-4.2.1-21 Maybe you don't have XFree86-tools installed... $ rpm -q XFree86-tools XFree86-tools-4.3.0-2 -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X won't start
Which distro is this? I managed to cause similar horkage when i mesed up permissions/onwership on a bunch of directories. if you've got sshd running on th ebox, you can try running _any_ X app remotely, which should help to determine whether its X that is brooken, or something else. On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Allan Rabenau wrote: I've somehow lost something which causes X not to start when I boot (from HD or from Boot Floppy). After all the normal boot messages, apparently X tries to start, but I get only the quick CL prompt, and then X appears to try to start again, then the prompt, over and over. Booting into linux 3 allows me to se in /var/log/XFree86.0.log the following: Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list Fatal server error: Could not open default font 'fixed' I've reloaded X from the install CD's, to no avail. Can anyone give me any aid? Thanks, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RH9 and xedit
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, James McDonald wrote: To compile mplayer mean't a search of the web for many supporting libraries that came standard with Mandrake. That wasn't my experience. mplayer build on both of my RH9 systems without a single problem. So my opinion is that Redhat, in the quest for a simple easy to use interface has decided that you get one 'notepad' one 'calc' and blue That's not really true. You still get tons of text editors (11 in my count), and at least 4 calculators. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Oops! (different machine)
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Testing new backup procedures on one of my machines, I kept locking up half-way through, consistently. This last time, I got a kernel Oops (happened to be watching it through a serial connection so I was able to save it). I'm pretty sure it's the HW. It's a 300a that's been overclocked to 450 for 3-4 years, we don't have central AC, and it used to be a gaming machine :) I've dropped the bus to 66MHz (300MHz on the proc) and if it happens again, I'll reseat the memory, CPU, HD connections, etc... Also, I'm running HDPARM with -c 1 and -d 1 Do you suppose that might cause this? I just wanted to show off my kewl Kernel Messages :) Oops: 2.4.20-4GB #1 Wed Aug 6 18:26:21 UTC 2003 CPU:0 EIP:0010:[c014653b]Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010007 eax: ebx: d15f4a60 ecx: 0001 edx: 0168ce60 esi: edi: 0002 ebp: c1341a50 esp: c031bed4 ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c031b000) Stack: c03ac500 d15f4a60 dff46560 0008 c01d28e8 d15f4a60 0001 dff46560 c03ac4f0 0016 0001 c01f7415 dff46560 0001 c03ac4f0 0048 c03ac4f0 dff46560 c03ac440 c01f9adf c03ac4f0 0001 c01fe8a1 c03ac4f0 Call Trace:[c01d28e8] [c01f7415] [c01f9adf] [c01fe8a1] [c01f885c] [c01fe820] [c010a180] [c010a31d] [c0106f90] [c010c5f8] [c0106f90] [c0106fb4] [c0107012] [c0105000] Code: 8b 42 18 a8 04 75 ee a8 01 0f 95 c0 25 ff 00 00 00 f7 d8 21 0Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! In interrupt handler - not syncing Yea, that's definitely a hardware problem. I'd hazard a guess that your CPU is dying, possibly from being overclocked for too long. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: error compiling lilo from source
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, M.W. Chang wrote: what did I miss? is there a how-to on this? cc -c -O2 -Wall -g -DLILO=0x489b `( if [ -r $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines ]; then cat $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines; else echo -DBDATA -DDSECS=3 -DEVMS -DIGNORECASE -DLVM -DONE_SHOT -DPASS160 -DREISERFS -DREWRITE_TABLE -DSOLO_CHAIN -DVERSION -DVIRTUAL; fi ) | sed 's/-D/-DLCF_/g'` probe.c probe.c:250:1: directives may not be used inside a macro argument probe.c:249:15: unterminated argument list invoking macro printf probe.c: In function `notice': probe.c:256: parse error before string constant /usr/include/sys/stat.h: At top level: geometry.h:67: warning: array `max_partno' assumed to have one element make: *** [probe.o] Error 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: lilo-22.5.7.2 rpm -qf /usr/include/sys/stat.h glibc-devel-2.2.1-3 LILO is very sensitive to the gcc, glibc binutils versions that you have installed. Some quick googling suggests that the version of gcc or glibc could cause the error that you're seeing. Interestingly, someone posted the same error here: http://freshmeat.net/projects/lilo/?topic_id=139 my money is on glibc. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Simper, Brian D wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Your kernel doesn't have bigmem support. x86 architecture on linux supports up to 64GB. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
The 'stock' Redhat kernel suports no more than 1GB. SuSE kernels might support more. Redhat includes a 'bigmem' kernel which supports 16GB. On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Yes, but most stock kernels support up to 4GB, which is still more than 2GB this guy's using... - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Maximum Memory in Linux On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Simper, Brian D wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Your kernel doesn't have bigmem support. x86 architecture on linux supports up to 64GB. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Stupid RPM, or just me???
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: Michael Hipp wrote: # rpm --rebuilddb error: db4 error(16) from dbenv-remove: Device or resource busy ps ax | grep rpm is clean. And the above command was even issued from a fresh reboot. Looked for a lock file, couldn't find one. Anyone know what the error might mean? Google is your friend: http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=from%20dbenv-%3Eremove%3A%20Device%20or%20resource%20busysafe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8lr=num=50hl=en -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Sun Netra question
Anyone here ever had to admin a Sun Netra? I've recently inherited a few (against my will), and discovered that they don't have the DB25 serial port that i'm accustomed to on other Sun hardware. Anyone know what kind of cable is needed to setup serial console on these beasts (and where I could obtain it)? thanks! -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Anyone here ever had to admin a Sun Netra? I've recently inherited a few (against my will), and discovered that they don't have the DB25 serial port that i'm accustomed to on other Sun hardware. Anyone know what kind of cable is needed to setup serial console on these beasts (and where I could obtain it)? thanks! Doesn't that use a fifteen pin connector? I ran the cables for one such system quite some time ago, I'll have to look up my notes to see if I have recorded the pin-outs. Its some kind of RJ45 (8 pin, i guess). There are two ports, one is LOM, the other is just an ordinary RJ45. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Its some kind of RJ45 (8 pin, i guess). There are two ports, one is LOM, the other is just an ordinary RJ45. PIN SIGNAL DB25 1 --- DTS --- 4 2 --- DTR ---20 3 --- TXD --- 2 4 --- Sig GND --- 1 5 --- Sig GND --- 7 6 --- RXD --- 3 7 --- DCD --- 8 8 --- DCS --- 5 OK. But i don't need DB25. I've got a Rocketport which takes RJ45, and the Netra RJ45, which seems to need something other than an ordinary cat5. Do you know if its a crossover, or something custom? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
Hi pascal, No cisco routers here (so no console cable). I've got alot of cat5, but that's about all. I get the feeling that I'll need to purchase, or construct some other kind, but i can't figure out which. ugh. i hate sun. On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Chong Yu Meng wrote: Hi Llama ! You can use the typical console cable used for Cisco routers. That's what I used to hook up the office Netra to my office laptop. Plug into the LOM port and plug the other end into your 9-pin serial port. If you are using Windows, open a Hyperterminal window and press Enter several times to get the lom prompt. If you need the documentation for LOM port operations, you can look for it on the Internet, or email me. I might have it handy. Regards, pascal chong Ted Ozolins wrote: Net Llama! wrote: OK. But i don't need DB25. I've got a Rocketport which takes RJ45, and the Netra RJ45, which seems to need something other than an ordinary cat5. Do you know if its a crossover, or something custom? I'll have to check on that and get back to you. I know a few people here that work with this stuff. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Chong Yu Meng wrote: I know what you mean ! In my recent project, I had 3 different Sun servers requiring 3 different console cables. The Netra console cable is the most easily acquired, because it is the same as the Cisco console cable. The other 2 had to be fabricated manually. What you can do is, try to borrow one from your network engineer (or any network engineer friends), because you only need it for the initial OS install. After that, you just use Exceed to connect to the box via a cross-over cable and you can do the configuration, etc. on it. If you want, I can see if I can buy one here and send it over to you. But I think it may be cheaper (and faster) to order it in the US on Cisco's website or eBay, or the neighbourhood computer shop. Thanks for the offer, but i'm sure i can find one around here. Hell, Cisco's corporate headquarters are a 10 minute drive from where i work. Can you explain one thing though? Why do i need the Cisco cable for the OS install, but a crossover is good enough afterwards? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Joel Hammer wrote: I need to buy a laptop in the next week for a trip. I don't think I can get a laptop loaded with linux during that time so I will likely just get an XP machine and either remove XP or dual boot it sometime down the road. So, my question, any laptop suggestions that would play well with linux? And, if so, which flavor of linux? I think I should get a wireless enabled laptop, too. I've got a Sharp MV12W with RH9 on it that works rather well. Has a builtin CDRW/DVD drive, integrated 802.11b: http://www.sharpsystems.com/tmplproduct_mv12.asp I got mine on eBay for $800 refurbished. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Bruce Marshall wrote: I too am thinking about a laptop and you might take a look at: www.emperorlinux.com They load linux on their laptops... although you pay highly for that I suspect. But what I did was to go there and get an idea of which laptops are compatible with Linux and then will decide which one I want to go for... and unfortunately will probably get it somewhere else because of a) price, b) options, c) other stuff... But maybe their prices aren't that bad and I am sure they will customize too. I haven't gotten that far into it. They show a lot of laptops at their site (with their own names attached to them) but they also give the vendor names and model numbers. They are very very expensive when compared with the OEM version. You're paying for having Linux pre-installed. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Chong Yu Meng wrote: I'm using a Thinkpad R40. Got it for SGD$1,600, which equates to slightly less than USD$1,000. Brand new. A few caveats though : I'm running very happily on RH9 + XFCE4 with 2 Apache web server yea, Thinkpads are very nice, and are virtually indestructable. My employer gave me a T20 (somewhat older, PIII-700, 512MB RAM), and it is also running RH9 + XFCE4. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Joel Hammer wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I will look into them. One point, maybe a sore one. Consumers Report recommended laptops with centrino chips because they get longer battery life and fit into a smaller case. I haven't used a laptop before, so I don't have a good feel for batteries. How long can you go on one charge on the laptops you like, just doing stuff like word processing? Well, i don't do word processing. Much of what i do is either in an xterm, or a web browser. On my Thinkpad, i generally get about 3 hours. On my Sharp MV12W, i also get about 3 hours. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mozilla Java Plugin
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Allan Rabenau wrote: I have installed RH 9, and am using Mozilla 1.2.1. I have downloaded Java j2re-1_4_2.01 and would like to add it as a plugin to the Mozilla, but I can't find any instructions. There is an sxs addressing this idea, but it refers to files that are not in this release; it may be out of date. There is a How to Set Up Mozilla sxs but when it comes to java it simply says Install Acrobat, JRE or JDE. I assume I have to make a link in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but have tried several .so files that I could find in the j2re folders, to no avail. Can anyone assist? Its fairly simple: 0) Install the j2re RPM 1) In /usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1/plugins create the following symlink: libjavaplugin_oji.so - /usr/java/j2re1.4.2/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so 2) Restart mozilla -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Clock Sync in RH9
It uses ntp. On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: RH9 gives the option to have the system clock automatically synced to clock.redhat.com or clock2.redhat.com . I've observed it attempt to do this on boot-up. But does it also sync at regular intervals? And what controls this? Can't find any mention of it in the docs. I've been tempted to put an 'rdate' command somewhere in cron just to be sure. Thanks, Michael -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Clock Sync in RH9
all the answers are in /etc/ntp.conf On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: Net Llama! wrote: It uses ntp. Okay, I figured that. But what initiates the sync? And how often? And does it have an agression algorithm if it's not had a good sync in so many hours/days? And where is this all configured? Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Networking / security problem in gentoo
Stupid question. Is whatever printing daemon you're using even listening on the port its supposed to listen on? (netstat -an) On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: also, what printing system are you using? CUPS? CUPS-LPD (usually port 515 through inetd or the like and then accessing the CUPS daemon)? LPD? LPRNG? - Original Message - From: Alan Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: Networking / security problem in gentoo Well, my son is upset because he can't print to my printer since I went to gentoo. He gets a message : lp: unable to print file: server-error-service-unavailable When I try it from a different system, I get : connection to 'earthman' failed - Connection refused job 'cfA845starman.oplnk.net' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed Thinking about this, I realized that I don't understand the gentoo security model. Apparently they don't use inetd, but reading through the docs it wasn't clear what they *do* use. I suspect that I have over-secured stuff by accident, but I don't know where to start. Can anyone give me a clue? (yes, I admit it, I am clueless... sigh) -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: List I have created a website for a college project. The site is at the Univ. of Tulsa, as we are in a virtual bussiness enviroment. The web pages themselves are ok. But the problem is the background jpeg and some other jpegs screw up the whole thing on all pages. If I remove the jpegs all looks ok. Now their site is using M$ludge 2003 server. On all of my MS winders and Linux boxen, using mozilla/opera/IE site is just right. My question is, graphics created in the Gimp, what could be happenning to my graphics web pages. If anyone wants to view the site, feel free and let me know what you think. http://www.ecommerce.cis.utulsa.edu/saw22 Looks like you used M$-Office as an HTML editor. That no workie. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:34:08 +0100 Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Should I need to do a HD install of knoppix to get it working ? No, although you will need to remount a partition read/write. Excuse me denseness but I tried last night to do this using various parameters with the mount command but failed miserably. the partition I would like to remount is on dev/hdb2 what should the command look like ?mount try: mount -w /dev/hdb2 -o remount DOes that actually work? It fails for me here, because there's no mount point sepcified. What works for me is: mount -o remount,rw mount_point Or you could just right click on the icon for the partition in KDE, and chose the remount option. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: recording wavs
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:35:46 -0500, Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I propose yet another test. Use knoppix and try recording again. I am not ready to retire my col or SuSE systems but I kinda like the way knoppix works. Ha yes that's what I tried (it was also one of the reasons I started the knoppix vs Suse thread) as it is the easiest way for me to try another distro. However using either rec or wavr in knoppix I get no error messages but thet don't create a file either Should I need to do a HD install of knoppix to get it working ? No, although you will need to remount a partition read/write. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: from an sco press release today
HITLER. HITLER HITLER HITLER. Now can we stop this entire thread, please, or at the very least move it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Joel Hammer wrote: Actually, it was worse. It seems they asked for recounts without any clear criteria for recounting ballots. That was the famous hanging chad debate. That was what the Supremes declared unconstitutional. Which is surprising, because I would have thought a compelling need to elect a Democrat would have outweighed the concept of equal protection under the law, but, dear me, this is getting OT. Of course, many people forget that GB won every recount, machine and manual, including one done by the media after the election. How soon they forget. Joel On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:27:30PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:13:12 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that having been said, i have every confidence in the ability of david boies to do for sco what he did for algore. Excuse me? I thought the only thing he did for algore was to push him to questionable election practices (recounting only certain districts) that the Supremes had to resolve. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE vs Knoppix
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: I am currently using SuSE 8.2 personal and apart from the now well documented problem I am havving recording Wavs I am getting on reasonably ok with it. I have read a lot of favourable press recently about knoppix and wondered if anyone would care to comment on the realative advantages/disadvantages of Suse Vs Knoppix KNOPPIX Is debian based, SuSE is, well, SuSE. I love KNOPPIX for recovery purposes, but i'd never use Debian on a regular basis. The entire religious 'Gnu/Linux' zealotry combined with what i feel is completely stupid packaging give me a bad taste in my mouth from Debian. I'm a huge Redhat fan, although i know some others on this list are not. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: recording wavs
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:20:08 +0100, Squabsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK with ulimit -a I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ulimit -a core file size(blocks, -c) 0 data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited file size (blocks, -f) unlimited max locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files(-n) 1024 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 stack size(kbytes, -s) unlimited cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes(-u) 2047 virtual memory(kbytes, -v) unlimited [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ In a cynical attempt to get back to the top of the list I'm replying too my own post. I still don't understand why any of the above limits would create a problem when I'm trying to record a wav file that would be 500k at most. They wouldn't. ulimit doesn't control max file size. That's basically a filesystem/glibc/kernel issue. I have updated to a newer Kernal but it doesn't seem to have made any differance. How would I go about increasing the file size limit ? Why does it need so much space to create a wav in linux. It shouldn't. I still think something is either f00bar with your hardware, or SuSE. Unless you're really tied to your current install, you might want to try a different distro just to see if it makes a difference. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE vs Knoppix
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Collins Richey wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Squabsy wrote: I am currently using SuSE 8.2 personal and apart from the now well documented problem I am havving recording Wavs I am getting on reasonably ok with it. I have read a lot of favourable press recently about knoppix and wondered if anyone would care to comment on the realative advantages/disadvantages of Suse Vs Knoppix KNOPPIX Is debian based, SuSE is, well, SuSE. I love KNOPPIX for recovery purposes, but i'd never use Debian on a regular basis. The entire religious 'Gnu/Linux' zealotry combined with what i feel is completely stupid packaging give me a bad taste in my mouth from Debian. I'm a huge Redhat fan, although i know some others on this list are not. Just curious. Has Redhat ever given up the philosophy it's a new version, it must be ready for prime time? I know they have released less than reliable versions in the past. Example, there is a new version of GCC that breaks a lot of packages. Is Redhat storming ahead with this like they did a couple of years ago? No. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE vs Knoppix
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Ken Moffat wrote: KNOPPIX Is debian based, SuSE is, well, SuSE. I love KNOPPIX for recovery purposes, but i'd never use Debian on a regular basis. The entire religious 'Gnu/Linux' zealotry combined with what i feel is completely stupid packaging give me a bad taste in my mouth from Debian. I'm a huge Redhat fan, although i know some others on this list are not. Gotta ask. What is so stupid about what I consider the best packaging/updating scheme out there. (sorry, haven't tried gentoo) You can keep debian updated using only a couple of commands once in a while. (apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade) Not if you want to compile from source. I want what I install to be optomized for my hardware environment. I've yet to find any easy way of doing that in Debian. I hear a lot about debian zealotry. Guess I don't see that, but am certainly open to an explanation... Calling it 'Gnu/Linux' for starters. Some rather ridiculous requirements about GPL licensing. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE vs Knoppix
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Ken Moffat wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Gotta ask. What is so stupid about what I consider the best packaging/updating scheme out there. (sorry, haven't tried gentoo) You can keep debian updated using only a couple of commands once in a while. (apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade) Not if you want to compile from source. I want what I install to be optomized for my hardware environment. I've yet to find any easy way of doing that in Debian. Hmm... you must mean the src.rpm's that are available on redhat, etc. There is an option to download src.debs using apt-get, also. I haven't tried it. When I want to use source, I just download the source gz file, I'd be really curious on whether source Debs are as easy to deploy as binary. If they are then my concerns are unfounded. unpack it, then: ./configure make checkinstall -D This makes a .deb file for easy uninstalling later. Sure, but if you're going to go that route, then you're not really getting the 'advantage' of debian any longer. its just as simple to do that on a redhat box to give me the RPM at the end. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Related to cron.daily
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Swapana Ghosh wrote: Hi In our /etc directory I am seeing there are two directories 1. cron.daily 2. cron.daily2 Under cron.daily2 the *webalizer.pl* is mentioned. But in /etc/logrotate only cron.daily is mentioned to be executed. But somehow i am seeing *webalizer.pl* is also running... So howcome webalizer.pl is running when it is under cron.daily2? I have checked all the directories, no where this *webalizer.pl* is mentioned.. /etc/logrotate has nothing at all to do with cronjobs. All it does is rotate out your logs. cron.daily2 is something that someone hacked in. Its in no Redhat distro I've ever looked at, going back as far as RH-5.2. I have moved the webalizer.pl from this directory to my own directory. Today night i will check wheather it executes or not...As the corn.daily time is set to 4 am .. Pointer to what? You haven't said what the problem is. You did alude to something about webalizer.pl, but there's no information on what is wrong. Is webalizer.pl not running per a cronjob? If so, then say so. Of couse the fact that its sitting in cron.daily2 sounds like the reason why. cronjobs are called either from /etc/crontab or per each user's own crontab (crontab -l). If they're not in one of those two locations, then they do *NOT* exist. period. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Related to cron.daily
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Swapana Ghosh wrote: Hi Pointer to what? You haven't said what the problem is. You did alude to something about webalizer.pl, but there's no information on what is wrong. Is webalizer.pl not running per a cronjob? If so, then say so. Of couse the fact that its sitting in cron.daily2 sounds like the reason why. I want that webalizer.pl should not run...But i am seeing that at the time of logrotaion this program is running though after checking, it is found that *webalizer.pl* exists only under /etc/cron.daily2... We did not set cron.daily2 under /etc/crontab , so by logic says this program should not run My question is how come this program is running? Its getting called from somewhere. Maybe /etc/crontab? Maybe root's crontab. Maybe from within a diferent cronjob. At this point the better question is how good is you security when you have foreign cronjobs running on the box that you can't track down? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: from an sco press release today
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, dep wrote: quoth burns: | Ballocks i pretty much agree with you, but what i thought was significant was a company, in court, saying that the gpl won't hold up. this is what we've been waiting for and to some extent feared (court is always a crap shoot, usually with a bunch of highly paid guys shooting nothing but) for some time. it cranks up the stakes considerably -- a *whole lot* is going to be riding on this particular roll of the dice. that having been said, i have every confidence in the ability of david boies to do for sco what he did for algore. And M$. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: duh
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, koko wrote: Just when I think I'm getting better... I am doing a new installation of RH 7.2 on a gateway machine for home network. I intend to download Roaring Penguin to NAT and also the gateway will server as my firewall. I did a workstation install and will have to configure the second NIC (uplink via DHCP to ISP). Although I was able to select the correct monitor during install, its not working correctly; the graphical interface (KDE) is hosed and I can't use the mouse to access Linuxconf or Netcfg. Fine. So I exit from graphical interface to CLI. I am logged in as root. Linuxconf and Netcfg are not recognized. I tried /sbin/linuxconf and /sbin/netcfg, but they are still not recognized commands. Did I miss a memo? /sbin/netconfig -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Wife almost weened into linux
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: I have a second question here. I have a /opt directory where no program will run without a permission denied. if I umount and remount, all works fine. the below is my /etc/fstab, is there something that stands out here to anyone. /dev/hda1 /boot ext3defaults 1 1 /dev/hda3 / reiserfsdefaults 0 1 /dev/hda2 noneswapsw0 1 /dev/hda5 /home reiserfsuser 0 1 /dev/hda6 /swdev reiserfsuser 0 1 /dev/hda7 /optreiserfsuser 0 1 /dev/hda8 /archivereiserfsuser 0 1 /dev/hda9 /test reiserfsuser 0 1 /dev/hda10 /public reiserfsuser 0 1 Why are you specifying user? Change it to defaults, or add 'exec'. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cablemodem and wireless network
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Harry Giles wrote: Sorry for the dumb questions, but before I spend the money: 1.With a cable modem, can you just connect it to the network hub, or do you need to use a router, as with adsl? Huh? ADSL doesn't require a router. You need a cable modem, which most providers give you anyway. 2. Does Linux support the wireless 802.11g standard? For some chipsets, not all. 3. Is Netgear and D-Link products Linux friendly? Some are. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Another dumb question about cablemodem and wireless network
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Harry Giles wrote: Will this work? LInux box, using a standard wired NIC plugs in to the W.A.P. and the Windows boxes on the network use the wireless cards. The cable modem goes into the router, then plugged into the W.A.P. The W.A.P. shouldn't care about the wired box being Linux, should it? I assume WAP = wireless acceess point? If so, why would you want the WAP to be central point of contact? Wouldn't it make alot more sense to have the cable modem plug into the router, and then have everything else plug into the router (including the WAP)? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cablemodem and wireless network
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Any opinions on, say, the D-Link DI-714P+ router? It has web-based configuration. I, too, am looking for compatible stuff like this. Also need PCI and PCMCIA cards to match. All for Linux. How about the Belkin 54g series of wireless routers and cards? Anyone using those? I've got a Belkin 802.11b WAP (not the 54g), and its been very easy to setup use. If that's any indication about Belkin networking products, then i'd say its a safe bet. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
