Re: lug-bg: RedHat Network и инсталира не на пакети

2006-07-12 Thread Rosen Nedialkov
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Alexander Iliev wrote:
 Здравейте.
 
 Въпросът ми е такъв - трябва ли да имаш subscription за RHN за да
 можеш да инсталираш RPM пакети от техните хранилища? Един вид - купил
 си си RHEL и искаш с up2date да инсталираш някакъв пакет - как се
 процедира?
 
 Поздрави,

Доколкото съм запознат, за да можеш да правиш следното
up2date --nox --install package  трябва машината минимум да има
Entitlement Update и да е записана (subscription) в канала за нейната версия.
Можеш да регистрираш няколко машини и да им сменяш ръчно каналите, за да ги
обновяваш, но за повече от 2 е голяма играчка.
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Network и инсталира не на пакети

2006-07-12 Thread Alexander Iliev
Мерси за отговора, обаче не мистана съвсем ясно въпросния
subscription плаща ли се отделно от операционната система,
понеже ако е така, то най-вероятно не е платен.

Поздрави,
-- 
Александър Илиев


Re: lug-bg: RedHat Network и инсталира не на пакети

2006-07-12 Thread Rosen Nedialkov

Alexander Iliev wrote:

Мерси за отговора, обаче не мистана съвсем ясно въпросния
subscription плаща ли се отделно от операционната система,
понеже ако е така, то най-вероятно не е платен.

Поздрави,
Спомените ми са че когато го купиш имаш 1 такъв subscription с валидност 2 
година (и цена 179$). А ако не си го изтеглил от техния сайт е съвсем вероятно 
да нямаш такъв. Виж на https://www.redhat.com/apps/support/complete.html


Re: lug-bg: RedHat 7.3

2006-02-28 Thread foxy 202
Благодаря на всички, вече го имамПоздрави ЕмоOn 2/27/06, Todor Todorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Какъв е проблема? 
Не можеш ли да стигнеш до redhat.com?
Ако е така мога да 
го дръпна и да го пусна по пиринга.

Ако имаш добра 
свързаност извън БГ ето ти линк:

ftp://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.3/en/iso/i386/


ТТ

  Здравейте, Спешно ми трябва RedHat 7.3. 
  знае ли някой FTP със RedHat 7.3 iso images в България. Аз така и не 
  намерих никъде. :(Благодаря Емо
  
  
  



Re: lug-bg: Redhat 7.3, XFS, ProFTPD Version 1.2.9

2004-08-31 Thread Peter Pentchev
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 6.2 as Gateway

2004-07-06 Thread Ilia dulgerov
Mihail Milev wrote:
Parvo iskam da blagodaria na vsi4ki koito mi pomognaha da napravia Freesco router. 
Sled bezsanni noshti uspiah da go pusna makar i sega ve4e da ne moga da vi obiasnia 
kak. Tai kato sam vav vakancia se 4udeh s kakvo da se pozanimavam. Ve4e sam na pat da 
napravia RedHat 6.2 router. Tuk problemite ve4e sa po-mashtabni zashtoto ne moga daje 
i gatewaya na dostav4ika da pingna. Vse edno niamam vrazka. tcpdump dava 4e priema ot 
lokalnia kompiutar i preprashta kam gatewaya no ot gatewaya niama otgovor. Ako na  
niakoi ne mu se zanimava s moia problem i slu4aino mu se e otvarialo vazmoshtnost da 
napravi RedHat 6.2 gateway (router) molia da drasne vsi4kite si stapki po izka4vaneto 
na toia vrah.
 

  RedHat 6.2  1 D , 
 ,  2  
   ( ) 2  
 ip_forward  =1  ipchains   
 DNS,  .
 II RedHat 7.3   1 PII   FC1.
  :
ifconfig, netstat -rn, ipchains -L -vn

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 7.3 - Sendmail - Antivir

2004-05-24 Thread Stefan Stoilov
http://www.clamav.net/
Jivko Georgiev wrote:
Zdraveite
Imam raboteshta systema RedHat 7.3 s sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6. 
Interesuvame me free mail antivir reshenie koeto da se instalira i 
pusne realtime.
 
pozdravi
Jivko


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RE: lug-bg: RedHat 9+MSI FX 5200 problem

2004-03-29 Thread Anastas Giokov
Pri zapochvane na instalacijata, oshte na boot prompt-a napishi 'linux
text'. Taka shte si napravish instalacijata, a posle verojatno shte
trjabva da si slozhish pravilnite nastrojki za FX 5200, s tova ne sum se
boril.

Antzi

 Zdraveite,imam sledniq problem kogato trugna da
 instaliram RedHat-a toi otkriva VGA-ta mi kato
 VESA(generic) i posle avtomatiochno izkluchva monitora
 mi kogato mu dam Ctr+alt+F2 vsichko si trugwa(displeq
 mi se vkluchwa),no shtom mu dam ctr+alt+f7 vsichko
 umira i taka nemoga da si instaliram linux,molq
 pomagaite!!!
 Blagodarq Vi.
 


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Fedora Project

2003-09-24 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
,   :

1. ISO images ~ 3 x 650 MB
2. RawHide  -RPM .

   .

 ?, 2003-09-24  16:26,   :
  ?
 
  , 2003-09-24  14:19, Ivaylo Toshev :
  , ,, RedHat   
. 
, :
  http://rhl.redhat.com
  http://fedora.redhat.com/about/
  
,(  ;-) ) 
   Fedora Core  
  RawHide,.
  
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Fedora Project

2003-09-24 Thread
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 , 2003-09-24  14:19, Ivaylo Toshev :
 , ,, RedHat   
   . 
   , :
 http://rhl.redhat.com
 http://fedora.redhat.com/about/
 
   ,(  ;-) ) 
  Fedora Core  
 RawHide,.
 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Fedora Project

2003-09-24 Thread Doncho Gunchev
On 2003 Sep 24 Wednesday 14:19, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
 , ,, RedHat   
   .
   , :
 http://rhl.redhat.com
 http://fedora.redhat.com/about/

   ,(  ;-) ) 
  Fedora Core  
 RawHide,.

  -   .

  Izglejda obeshtawashto. Ne moga da pomogna s mirror-ing-a, no...
ne mojah da ne se zaradwam: :D na novinata :)
  Do kolkoto hwashtam ideqta /az oswen nastinka skoro ne sym hwashtal
drugo/ imame wyzmojnostta i da popomognem tuk tam (primerno s maimunicata
kakto 1 poznat kazwa - kirilizaciqta...)...

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 7.2 ili 7.3 anyone ?

2003-05-29 Thread Teodor Georgiev


Imam 7.3 i 9.0 

7.3 e s 2.4.18-3
8.0 e s 2.4.18-8 (ako ne se lyzha).
9.0 e 2.4.20-??

Blizo sym do 7mi.

Samo che kak stava taka, che ACT, chijto shef (g-n Tzolov - Kubikov) deto plue 
po Linux, polzvat Linux???


On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:45, Peter Kirkov wrote:
   
 7.2  7.3 ?

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 2.4.9-7, 2.4.9-33, 2.4.18-5 ,2.4.18-10
 
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9 strannosti

2003-05-29 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
 ?, 2003-05-29  11:39, Teodor Georgiev :
2 vyprosa:
 
  1. Kyde izchezna Xconfigurator'a ???
redhat-config-xfree ,

  2. Pri instalaciata pyrvo ukazah bylgarski ezik. Sled kato se instalira i 
 zaredih X, to mi iska username. Da ama, klaviaturata mi e BG BDS i ne moga
  da q smenq na english. A Linuxa usernames na BG ne chete :)))
 Kak se opravq tova, bez da se preinstalira?
 
  ,usernames   ?
   ,  /etc/sysconfig/i18n,   : en_US, 
 -,  /etc/X11/XF86Config  Keyboard ,  bg  us

 
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9 strannosti

2003-05-29 Thread Teodor Georgiev
On Thursday 29 May 2003 11:41, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
  ?, 2003-05-29  11:39, Teodor Georgiev :
 2 vyprosa:
 
   1. Kyde izchezna Xconfigurator'a ???

 redhat-config-xfree ,

   2. Pri instalaciata pyrvo ukazah bylgarski ezik. Sled kato se instalira
  i zaredih X, to mi iska username. Da ama, klaviaturata mi e BG BDS i ne
  moga da q smenq na english. A Linuxa usernames na BG ne chete :)))
  Kak se opravq tova, bez da se preinstalira?

   ,usernames   ?

nikoi. Az prosto go vidiah, che ne chete.
Ne mi kazvai, che ako s kirilica na pisha root, che shte mi go hvane. T.e. 
kazhi mi go, nqma da te chuq.

,  /etc/sysconfig/i18n,   : en_US, 
  -,  /etc/X11/XF86Config  Keyboard ,  bg  us

pyrvoto oshte vchera go napravih, drugoto shte opitam. 10x



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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9 strannosti

2003-05-29 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
root   -  ,  
.   , 
 ,..  .

 ?, 2003-05-29  13:43, Teodor Georgiev :
 On Thursday 29 May 2003 11:41, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
   ?, 2003-05-29  11:39, Teodor Georgiev :
  2 vyprosa:
  
1. Kyde izchezna Xconfigurator'a ???
 
  redhat-config-xfree ,
 
2. Pri instalaciata pyrvo ukazah bylgarski ezik. Sled kato se instalira
   i zaredih X, to mi iska username. Da ama, klaviaturata mi e BG BDS i ne
   moga da q smenq na english. A Linuxa usernames na BG ne chete :)))
   Kak se opravq tova, bez da se preinstalira?
 
,usernames   ?
 
 nikoi. Az prosto go vidiah, che ne chete.
 Ne mi kazvai, che ako s kirilica na pisha root, che shte mi go hvane. T.e. 
 kazhi mi go, nqma da te chuq.
 
 ,  /etc/sysconfig/i18n,   : en_US, 
   -,  /etc/X11/XF86Config  Keyboard ,  bg  us
 
 pyrvoto oshte vchera go napravih, drugoto shte opitam. 10x
 
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-27 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Zasto si mislish che ne znam, che se prodavat CD-ta za Debian,
az pone ne sym kazal tova?
Pone az instaliram Debian ot CD-ta.
Tova koeto ti kazvam e che RHN predlagat samo ISO-ta i nisto poveche,
ostanaloto e tvojata glava.
Az sponah  Sun Netra si poneje se opitah da si download-na
ot neja ISO-tata na RH9 i ne stana, a Sun One ne sym go spomenaval
v tazi discusia.
Prosto vchera tyrsih search engine za PDF kojto da raboti na sys SunOne,
az si razreshih problema oste vchera.
Kakvo obsto ima tova s ISO-tata, na RH?


George Danchev wrote:

On 27 03 2003 01:03, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 

Mnogo dobre te razbrah, prosto ti kazvam che njama kak da stane
   

Valentin, 
gledaj sega i 4eti vnimatelno;-)

 

pone dokato RHN predlagat samo ISO images, moje po-kysno da dobaviat
drug vid distributzia no sega ima samo ISO-ta.
   

Zna4i dori i iso-ta da se dokopat az ti kazah 4e se iskashe analog na super 
rutinnata i ezhednevna procedura apt-cdrom add Nema reboot-vane (i 
boot-vane ot CD), dokato ne upgrade kernel-a de i boot pak ot hdd, koeto si e 
v reda na nestata pri vsi4ki OS'es. Other possible methods bi trqbvalo da sa 
http/ftp/sftp/file... 

 

Pri Debian e razlichno tam upgrate bez reboot-vane e nesto neobhodimo,
vse pak CD-ta ne se prodava navsjakyde kato pri RedHat.
   

Ama ti zasto si mislish 4e pri upgrade ot CD se nalaga vinagi reboot ili i 
boot ot tova CD vkl. i za RH (see above). ISO-ta izgoreni na CD'es sa prosto 
edin ot izto4nicite ot koito mozhe da se upgrade i nema nisto slozhno tuka za 
razbirane. I ponezhe pak komentarvash Debian bez da si zapoznat, neka ti 
obqsnq 4e i tam ima CD vendors koitoti prodavat cd blankata, a ne softuera (a 
da vidim dali ste gi namerish), da ne govorim 4e upgrade bez reboot ne e 
poradi lipsa na CD'es ;-). Osven tova vseki mozhe da si iztegli 7 official 
iso's na stable, 8 i 9 syotvetno za testing i unstable koito se rebuild-vat 
unofficially (see ftp.fsn.hu). Onzi den naprimer mi se zapisa iso-1 na 
unofficial unstable ot March edi koq si den(iztegleno ot ftp.fsn.hu) i up-nah 
some machines, kolega pyk si instalira ot tova systoto unofficial unstable 
bootable CDROM fresh desktop systema. Za ftp/http/others archives mislq 4e 
trebe se sestash 4e e tradiciq. Imenno poradi nali4ieto na podobni 
vyzmozhnosti v Debian v naj skoro vreme maj ste nabludavam svalane na Solaris 
ot Sparc-a, zastoto v tova otnoshenie e as much powerful as beliq gylyb na 
mira ili una paloma blanco kakto kazvat v Espana, t.e. izklu4itelno 
skromen i feature-less, vypreki 4e nqkoj subsys na Solaris kernela vse oste 
prevyzhovdat Linux ones po scalability, no razlikata ne e 4uvstvitelna i se 
stopqva byrzo i osobeno ako ima dobre raboteshti Linux-ski prilozheniq se 
replace-va na momenta i vsi4ko e spokojno, problema e 4e teziprilozheniq ne 
commercial vendor ones i binary only distributed. Sega usestash li kolko 
mnogo smqh i sylzi predizvikva spomenavaneto ti na SunOne i neznam si kakvo 
na Solaris... V krajna smetka moj propusk e 4e ne potyrsih v official docs na 
RH (10x na Yanko Kaneti tuka, kojto dade edin ot malkoto smisleni otgovori), 
stoto mi otgovarqt hora koito imat severe nuzhda ot help, a se opitvat da me 
consult-vat;-) 

 



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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-27 Thread George Danchev
On 27 03 2003 17:00, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 Zasto si mislish che ne znam, che se prodavat CD-ta za Debian,
 az pone ne sym kazal tova?

Ti ne znaesh kakvo prikazvash... eto tovasa tvoj slova: Pri Debian e 
razlichno tam upgrate bez reboot-vane e nesto neobhodimo,
vse pak CD-ta ne se prodava navsjakyde kato pri RedHat.

 Pone az instaliram Debian ot CD-ta.

molq... taka kato te slusham ti ne moa izpylnish sys c: si slozhish dos-eca, 
tolkova si zle, otgore na tova si i super lier i licemer, koeto si li4i 
otdale4e. 

 Tova koeto ti kazvam e che RHN predlagat samo ISO-ta i nisto poveche,
 ostanaloto e tvojata glava.

nikoj ne te e pitalza iso-ta, pitaneto beshe za upgrade, ama ti ne znaesh 
kakvo e tova i pishesh ko ti padne.

 Az sponah  Sun Netra si poneje se opitah da si download-na
 ot neja ISO-tata na RH9 i ne stana, a Sun One ne sym go spomenaval
 v tazi discusia.

koj go gree tva ikoj te pita za tva. 

 Prosto vchera tyrsih search engine za PDF kojto da raboti na sys SunOne,
 az si razreshih problema oste vchera.
 Kakvo obsto ima tova s ISO-tata, na RH?

Obstoto e 4e ti maj ne si vizhdal nito Debian, nito RH, nito Sun. Otsekyde ti 
li4i (i po vulnerable mail clienta dazhe) 4e si elementaren Winz loser imash 
pretencijte za developer (moite uvazheniq kym ka4estwenite winz developers, 
ima i takiva), no vsystnost si smeshen do sylzi... ti si znaesh, ama nemash 
nisto obsto s kyfto i da e software. Zakvo se zaminavam i az s amatiori, ne 
podlezhish i na obu4enie dazhe.

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-27 Thread Spas Pavlov
Pochwa se porednoto bezpolezno pluene.
Choweka pitashe ka da naprawi upgrdae na RH?

Upgrade na RH se prawi kato se startira instalacionnata procedura
ili kakto weche nqkoj kaza towa e Anakonda-ta.
Kato otkrie che weche ima instaliran RH, tq pita dali iskash nowa instalaciq 
ili Upgrade. (upgrade-to stawa dosta po-bawno ot instalaciq na chsto)

RH se instalira po dwa nachina:
1.boot ot CD
2.boot ot disketa

Pri wtoria wariant ima razlichni podwarianti.
1.Instalacia ot CD (nepoddyrvani stari tipowe cd-ta ili takiwa ot koito ne 
move da se bootne)
2.Instalacia ot hard disk . (8.0 maj tyrsi na harda samite ISO-ta towa ne sym 
siguren)
3.Instalacia po mreva (FTP, HTTP, NFS)

Pri instalacia ot disketa, trqbwa da se naprawi boot disketa ot directoriqta 
/images na CD-to

tam ima boot images:
boot.img -normalen kernel
bootnet.img -za instalacia po mreva

drvnet.img -za nepoddyrvani LAN karti
drvblock.imag -za nepoddyrvani block devices
oldcdrom.img -za stari tipowe CD
pcmcia.img za suport na pcmcia
i t.n.
ako prawite instalaciq po mreva sys mrevowa platka, koqto ne se razpoznawa, 
bootwate sys bootnet.img,
kogato se stigne do izpolzwane na LAN-a
ste wi bude poiskana disketata sys drvnet.img

Analogichno stawa i i pri drugite warianti:
 napr. instalaciq ot CD ot koeto ne move da se bootne 

Spas Pavlov

On Thursday 27 March 2003 17:45, George Danchev wrote:
 On 27 03 2003 17:00, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
  Zasto si mislish che ne znam, che se prodavat CD-ta za Debian,
  az pone ne sym kazal tova?

 Ti ne znaesh kakvo prikazvash... eto tovasa tvoj slova: Pri Debian e
 razlichno tam upgrate bez reboot-vane e nesto neobhodimo,
 vse pak CD-ta ne se prodava navsjakyde kato pri RedHat.

  Pone az instaliram Debian ot CD-ta.

 molq... taka kato te slusham ti ne moa izpylnish sys c: si slozhish
 dos-eca, tolkova si zle, otgore na tova si i super lier i licemer, koeto si
 li4i otdale4e.

  Tova koeto ti kazvam e che RHN predlagat samo ISO-ta i nisto poveche,
  ostanaloto e tvojata glava.

 nikoj ne te e pitalza iso-ta, pitaneto beshe za upgrade, ama ti ne znaesh
 kakvo e tova i pishesh ko ti padne.

  Az sponah  Sun Netra si poneje se opitah da si download-na
  ot neja ISO-tata na RH9 i ne stana, a Sun One ne sym go spomenaval
  v tazi discusia.

 koj go gree tva ikoj te pita za tva.

  Prosto vchera tyrsih search engine za PDF kojto da raboti na sys SunOne,
  az si razreshih problema oste vchera.
  Kakvo obsto ima tova s ISO-tata, na RH?

 Obstoto e 4e ti maj ne si vizhdal nito Debian, nito RH, nito Sun. Otsekyde
 ti li4i (i po vulnerable mail clienta dazhe) 4e si elementaren Winz loser
 imash pretencijte za developer (moite uvazheniq kym ka4estwenite winz
 developers, ima i takiva), no vsystnost si smeshen do sylzi... ti si
 znaesh, ama nemash nisto obsto s kyfto i da e software. Zakvo se zaminavam
 i az s amatiori, ne podlezhish i na obu4enie dazhe.


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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-27 Thread George Danchev
On 27 03 2003 18:47, Spas Pavlov wrote:
 Pochwa se porednoto bezpolezno pluene.
 Choweka pitashe ka da naprawi upgrdae na RH?

Da, Az li4no popitah za upgrade techniques na RH. 10x za podrobniq ti otgovor, 
edin ot malkoto stojnostni takiva. Drugoto beshe trash ot vida vizhdat se 
samo iso-ta i dokato RHN predlagat samo tova to ne mozhe da se upgrade; ili 
man up2date... da umresh ot smqh. Ne e sramno da se popita (osobeno kak 
neam RH pred men a i machine ne e cdrom-bootable, ili pyk ako trebe go 
upgrade-vam remote stoto machinata ne e pred men), no 4ovek se drazni ot 
amatiorski otgovori i zabluzhdeniq. Kraj ve4e nisto ne pitam. 

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread George Danchev
On 25 03 2003 23:16, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 Vsystnost sistemata na Debian e malko slojna,
 tam vseki module si ima sponsor kato vseki moje da kandidastva za
 sponsorship.
 na http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ moje da vidish
 za taka narechenite 'Orphaned' packages, a sled kato porabotish malko
 moje da potyrsish sponsor.

Hahaha. Ti znaeshli za kakvo prikazvash?;-) Tuk pod sponsorship se ima predvid 
slednoto: person X enameril cool software, i ponezhe ne e actual debian 
maintainer, pita/tyrsi predlaga na nqkoj actual ilidejstwast takyv da 
pregleda tova koeto e napravil X i eventualnoda to upload-nev official 
archive-a... Vyobstemnogo byrkash ponqtiqta pri orphaned,for adoption, i t.n. 
Tova ne e sponsorship za kojto si mislish, e.g. pay to work ;-)

 Za nemskite firmi imah v predvid Siemens i DT, predi godina rabotih
 s edin anglichanin David George i toj mi razpravjashe kak si nameril
 chast ot coda kojto e razrabotval za Siemens v Debian, toj
 raboti sega za France Telecom, toj tvyrdeshe che 7-8 ot top
 developerite na Debian poluchavat zaplati ot njakavo sdrujenie
 na nemskite softwareni firmi.
 Prosto nikoj nikade ne dava pari ej taka, i HP i Siemens i Sun
 imat edin i syst interes, a i developer-ite ne mogat da rabotiat vechno
 bez pari

Zna4i tova e pohvalno ako Siemens ili DT contribute-vat code zakojto i da e. 
Oba4e v slu4aj az ne mislq 4e sa contribute-nali nesto Debian specific, demek 
napisali sa nestoilimozhe bi sa nipisali nesto (software) i nqkoj debian 
maintainer mozhe da go e paketiral i upload-nal v Debian,no tova ne e Debian 
specific. Ako e nesto specifi4no, ste se radvam da mi pokazhesh kyde to4no se 
namira v official Debian archive-a i zasto ne mozhe da se polzva ot drugi. 

Tova koeto maj si imal predvid e:
http://www.debian.org/partners/
http://www.debian.org/donations

ama se zapoznajpredi da generovash misli. Usestash li gi tezi nesta, stoto men 
mi se struva 4e pak pishesh na posoki;-)

 osven ako ne sa student-i razbira se.  Predi na savannah.gnu.org
 imashe mnogo interesna pisanie po-vyprosa kak se pravjat pari ot
 open-source.

Tozi fenomen maj ne ti e mnogo qsen, nekazvam 4e na men mi e. Fakta 4e 
systestvuvapritesnqvabaq orica po nasheto zemno kylboi se izmislqt kvi li ne 
dezinformaionni maropriqtiq ;-)

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread George Danchev
On 25 03 2003 20:51, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
 Imam pitane: zasto ste mu e na niakoi tolkoz rano RH 9.0 Ikzliuchvam tova
 che tazi versia zavarshva na nula az takiva ne gi haresvam 9.1 mi zvuchi
 dosta po-dobre. Oste poveche che ia iskate 1 sedmica po rano- savsem ste e
 bugava. ICQ-takva drebna programka ia karam oste na 2001 versia bez
 kapchica zhelanie za upgrade, pak vie iskate cial linux da slagate
 Istinata e v Sevice Pack-ovete(widowski kazano), a ne v novite versii...:)

imam slednoto pitane za RH9, akonqkoj ve4e go e probval i test-val. Zna4i pri 
instalaiqta ve4e e predvidena i opticiq (qvno dostaty4no nadezhdnai dobre 
obmislena) za cqlosten upgrade na systemata ot previous RH version. Koj tool 
go pravi tova? (za tozi deto e nad rpm imam predvid, ako ima takyv) Sega 
dokolkoto znam up2date e samo za security updates ot tehnite FTP-ta, t.e. ne 
mozhe da se napravi cqlosten ili partial upgrade s nego, kakto s apt-get 
upgrade ili apt-get install something. Koj e analoga na apt-get upgrade , 
znam 4e ima takyv i ako tova e apt tova apt-rpm na Conectiva li e ili nesto 
drugo koeto vika rpm vmesto dpkg. Tova apt zaedno s synaptic v official 
distribution na RH9 li e ili ne? Kvo e apt4rpm.sf.net, kvi sa razlikite s 
Conetiva i Debian ones ? Ne me prashtajte da 4eta, stoto ako imash pove4ko 
vreme sigurno stqhda sravnq apt ot debian s tova deto idva s RH ako idva 
takova s official distribution-a na9. 10x za to4nite otgovori. 

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread George Danchev
On 26 03 2003 14:08, George Danchev wrote:

Malko dopylneniq:

 imam slednoto pitane za RH9, ako nqkoj ve4e go e probval i test-val. Zna4i
 pri instalaiqta ve4e e predvidena i opticiq (qvno dostaty4no nadezhdnai
 dobre obmislena) za cqlosten upgrade na systemata ot previous RH version.
 Koj tool go pravi tova? (za tozi deto e nad rpm imam predvid, ako ima
 takyv) Sega dokolkoto znam up2date e samo za security updates ot tehnite
 FTP-ta, t.e. ne mozhe da se napravi cqlosten ili partial upgrade s nego,
 kakto s apt-get upgrade ili apt-get install something. Koj e analoga na
 apt-get upgrade , znam 4e ima takyv i ako tova e apt tova apt-rpm na
 Conectiva li e ili nesto drugo koeto vika rpm vmesto dpkg. Tova apt zaedno
 s synaptic v official distribution na RH9 li e ili ne? Kvo e
 apt4rpm.sf.net, kvi sa razlikite s Conetiva i Debian ones ? Ne me
 prashtajte da 4eta, stoto ako imash pove4ko vreme sigurno stqhda sravnq apt
 ot debian s tova deto idva s RH ako idva takova s official distribution-a
 na9. 10x za to4nite otgovori.

Zna4i ide re4 za edna Toshiba Portege double boot-vashta Debian i RH8.0. Za 
Debian na pitashtiq mu fyrlih debian-book-a i ve4e ne smee da me pita;-). 
Vyprosyt e 4e Toshiba-ta ne mozhe da boot-va ot PCMCIA CDROM (samo ot docking 
station ako ima takyv, ama tova e dylga i shiroka), stoto BIOS nema takava 
nastrojka (dylgo e;-) .. Pita se za upgrade na RH8.0 do 9.0 mozhe li da NE se 
boot-va ot RH9.0 CDROM diska, a da se napravi nesto analogi4no kato pri 
Debian: apt-cdrom add ; apt-get update i t.n. 
Ili dobavqme v sources.list ilitamdeto trebe RH 9.0 paths i apt-get update  
upgrade. Preinstall na 4isto ne s e rabota ta za tfa pitam mozhe li da se 
mine taka tynko s upgrade-a ot 8.0 do 9.0 ? Problema ne e moj, no pitam 4e 
men me pitat;-) i e zor za toq RH9.0, pyk i Toshibata nemi e bash pod ryka;-) 

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RE: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread Peter Zyumbilev
man up2date

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Danchev
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava


On 25 03 2003 20:51, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
 Imam pitane: zasto ste mu e na niakoi tolkoz rano RH 9.0 
Ikzliuchvam tova
 che tazi versia zavarshva na nula az takiva ne gi haresvam 
9.1 mi zvuchi
 dosta po-dobre. Oste poveche che ia iskate 1 sedmica po 
rano- savsem ste e
 bugava. ICQ-takva drebna programka ia karam oste na 2001 versia bez
 kapchica zhelanie za upgrade, pak vie iskate cial linux da 
slagate
 Istinata e v Sevice Pack-ovete(widowski kazano), a ne v 
novite versii...:)

imam slednoto pitane za RH9, akonqkoj ve4e go e probval i 
test-val. Zna4i pri 
instalaiqta ve4e e predvidena i opticiq (qvno dostaty4no 
nadezhdnai dobre 
obmislena) za cqlosten upgrade na systemata ot previous RH 
version. Koj tool 
go pravi tova? (za tozi deto e nad rpm imam predvid, ako ima 
takyv) Sega 
dokolkoto znam up2date e samo za security updates ot tehnite 
FTP-ta, t.e. ne 
mozhe da se napravi cqlosten ili partial upgrade s nego, kakto 
s apt-get 
upgrade ili apt-get install something. Koj e analoga na 
apt-get upgrade , 
znam 4e ima takyv i ako tova e apt tova apt-rpm na Conectiva 
li e ili nesto 
drugo koeto vika rpm vmesto dpkg. Tova apt zaedno s synaptic v 
official 
distribution na RH9 li e ili ne? Kvo e apt4rpm.sf.net, kvi sa 
razlikite s 
Conetiva i Debian ones ? Ne me prashtajte da 4eta, stoto ako 
imash pove4ko 
vreme sigurno stqhda sravnq apt ot debian s tova deto idva s 
RH ako idva 
takova s official distribution-a na9. 10x za to4nite otgovori. 

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread Doncho N. Gunchev
| On Wednesday 26 March 2003 14:08, George Danchev wrote:
| On 25 03 2003 20:51, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
|  Imam pitane: zasto ste mu e na niakoi tolkoz rano RH 9.0 Ikzliuchvam tova
|  che tazi versia zavarshva na nula az takiva ne gi haresvam 9.1 mi
|  zvuchi dosta po-dobre. Oste poveche che ia iskate 1 sedmica po rano-
|  savsem ste e bugava. ICQ-takva drebna programka ia karam oste na 2001
|  versia bez kapchica zhelanie za upgrade, pak vie iskate cial linux da
|  slagate Istinata e v Sevice Pack-ovete(widowski kazano), a ne v
|  novite versii...:)
|
| imam slednoto pitane za RH9, akonqkoj ve4e go e probval i test-val. Zna4i
| pri instalaiqta ve4e e predvidena i opticiq (qvno dostaty4no nadezhdnai
| dobre obmislena) za cqlosten upgrade na systemata ot previous RH version.
| Koj tool go pravi tova? (za tozi deto e nad rpm imam predvid, ako ima
| takyv) Sega dokolkoto znam up2date e samo za security updates ot tehnite
| FTP-ta, t.e. ne mozhe da se napravi cqlosten ili partial upgrade s nego,
| kakto s apt-get upgrade ili apt-get install something. Koj e analoga na
| apt-get upgrade , znam 4e ima takyv i ako tova e apt tova apt-rpm na
| Conectiva li e ili nesto drugo koeto vika rpm vmesto dpkg. Tova apt zaedno
| s synaptic v official distribution na RH9 li e ili ne? Kvo e
| apt4rpm.sf.net, kvi sa razlikite s Conetiva i Debian ones ? Ne me
| prashtajte da 4eta, stoto ako imash pove4ko vreme sigurno stqhda sravnq apt
| ot debian s tova deto idva s RH ako idva takova s official distribution-a
| na9. 10x za to4nite otgovori.
up2date update-wa wsichko no w ramkite na versiqta - t.e. nqma da ti naprawi 
ot RedHat 8.0 RedHat 9.0. apt-get ima i za RedHat weche i po moi nabliudeniq 
pliusa mu e che moje da swalq soft ne samo ot ftp-tata na RedHat no prawi i 
problemi :( Po wreme na instalatziq tool-a deto e nad RPM se kazwa Anaconda 
RedHat Installer. up2date ima i grafichen interfeis ot koito mojesh da si 
izbirash koe da i koe da ne update. APT-to za redhat tyrsi na Freshrpms.net
Za RH 9.0 ne moga da kaja ima li novi raboti tyj kato i na saita ne widqh otde 
da procheta po temata a i wreme za gluposti nqma - kato go pusnat shte go 
pusnat i shte widim, sega i da gledame i da ne gledame po-hubaw nqma da stane 
ot towa.

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread Romeo Ninov
Ot litshen opit:
Upgrade optsiata na Install protsedurata (ot CD ili floppy) sam ia probwal w slednite 
kompibatsii:
6.2-7.0
6.2-7.1
6.2-7.3
7.1-7.3
i se e prawiala bez problem

Oswen towa ima edna programka - autoupdate (ot niakakaw .at ili .de edu site sam ia 
wzemal
Ta s neja sam probwal slednia nomer (wsitshko po-dolu bez kernel!):
patch na 7.1 (programata e predwidena za towa!)
smeniam direktoriite ot koito da tegli patchowe sas install dir-a na 7.3 (na 
ftp.redhat.com)
-7.3
W tozi moment uname reportwa 7.3

wrashtam standartnite nastrojki za direktorii
patch na 7.3

 



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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/26/03 02:08 
imam slednoto pitane za RH9, akonqkoj ve4e go e probval i test-val. Zna4i pri 
instalaiqta ve4e e predvidena i opticiq (qvno dostaty4no nadezhdnai dobre 
obmislena) za cqlosten upgrade na systemata ot previous RH version. Koj tool 
go pravi tova? (za tozi deto e nad rpm imam predvid, ako ima takyv) Sega 
dokolkoto znam up2date e samo za security updates ot tehnite FTP-ta, t.e. ne 
mozhe da se napravi cqlosten ili partial upgrade s nego, kakto s apt-get 
upgrade ili apt-get install something. Koj e analoga na apt-get upgrade , 
znam 4e ima takyv i ako tova e apt tova apt-rpm na Conectiva li e ili nesto 
drugo koeto vika rpm vmesto dpkg. Tova apt zaedno s synaptic v official 
distribution na RH9 li e ili ne? Kvo e apt4rpm.sf.net, kvi sa razlikite s 
Conetiva i Debian ones ? Ne me prashtajte da 4eta, stoto ako imash pove4ko 
vreme sigurno stqhda sravnq apt ot debian s tova deto idva s RH ako idva 
takova s official distribution-a na9. 10x za to4nite otgovori. 

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread George Danchev
On 26 03 2003 14:56, Doncho N. Gunchev wrote:
 | On Wednesday 26 March 2003 14:08, George Danchev wrote:
 |
 | On 25 03 2003 20:51, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
 |  Imam pitane: zasto ste mu e na niakoi tolkoz rano RH 9.0 Ikzliuchvam
 |  tova che tazi versia zavarshva na nula az takiva ne gi haresvam 9.1
 |  mi zvuchi dosta po-dobre. Oste poveche che ia iskate 1 sedmica po rano-
 |  savsem ste e bugava. ICQ-takva drebna programka ia karam oste na 2001
 |  versia bez kapchica zhelanie za upgrade, pak vie iskate cial linux da
 |  slagate Istinata e v Sevice Pack-ovete(widowski kazano), a ne v
 |  novite versii...:)
 |
 | imam slednoto pitane za RH9, akonqkoj ve4e go e probval i test-val. Zna4i
 | pri instalaiqta ve4e e predvidena i opticiq (qvno dostaty4no nadezhdnai
 | dobre obmislena) za cqlosten upgrade na systemata ot previous RH version.
 | Koj tool go pravi tova? (za tozi deto e nad rpm imam predvid, ako ima
 | takyv) Sega dokolkoto znam up2date e samo za security updates ot tehnite
 | FTP-ta, t.e. ne mozhe da se napravi cqlosten ili partial upgrade s nego,
 | kakto s apt-get upgrade ili apt-get install something. Koj e analoga na
 | apt-get upgrade , znam 4e ima takyv i ako tova e apt tova apt-rpm na
 | Conectiva li e ili nesto drugo koeto vika rpm vmesto dpkg. Tova apt
 | zaedno s synaptic v official distribution na RH9 li e ili ne? Kvo e
 | apt4rpm.sf.net, kvi sa razlikite s Conetiva i Debian ones ? Ne me
 | prashtajte da 4eta, stoto ako imash pove4ko vreme sigurno stqhda sravnq
 | apt ot debian s tova deto idva s RH ako idva takova s official
 | distribution-a na9. 10x za to4nite otgovori.

 up2date update-wa wsichko no w ramkite na versiqta - t.e. nqma da ti
 naprawi ot RedHat 8.0 RedHat 9.0. apt-get ima i za RedHat weche i po moi
 nabliudeniq pliusa mu e che moje da swalq soft ne samo ot ftp-tata na
 RedHat no prawi i problemi :( Po wreme na instalatziq tool-a deto e nad RPM
 se kazwa Anaconda RedHat Installer. up2date ima i grafichen interfeis ot
 koito mojesh da si izbirash koe da i koe da ne update. APT-to za redhat
 tyrsi na Freshrpms.net Za RH 9.0 ne moga da kaja ima li novi raboti tyj
 kato i na saita ne widqh otde da procheta po temata a i wreme za gluposti
 nqma - kato go pusnat shte go pusnat i shte widim, sega i da gledame i da
 ne gledame po-hubaw nqma da stane ot towa.

Thanks. Zna4i za po4itatelite po4ivka nqma;-). Gledat FTP-tata za 9.0 packages 
ili iso'es non-stop i se 4ertaqt strategii za upgrade s potrivane na ryce;-).  
Zna4i up2date otpada dokolkoto razbrah, maj ste trebe da ima na4in da se 
prinudi da upgrade-va vsi4ko no v ramkite na gornata distribution, e.g. 9.0 
ama neznam kak da stane tova, pyk i nqmam RH pred men... install samo s rpm 
program na .rpm's packages ot 9.0 ste e zhiva myka i tova otpada, no kato 
posleden variant ostava ako nema nakyde;-). Boot ot RH9.0 CDROM i poso4vane 
na upgrade systo otpada ponezhe Toshibata ne mozhe da boot-va PCMCIA CDROM, 
a si ima samo takyv (tuka neznam dali se stane ako se polyzheme malko s boot 
floppies i ako ima vyzmozhnost da mu se ukazhe da upgrade-va posle ot 9.0 
CDROM ?). 

Ostava s nqkyf tool, kato tozi apt za RH ot freshrpms.net, (zasto go nema v 
official RH, ili ima analog) i da mu se ukazhe da to4i i upgrade-va ot 
CDROM-a ili FTP/HTTP arhive-a na RH9.0 (poslednoto e za predpo4itane). Tova 
trebe da stane In my humble opinion,vypreki 4e tova apt maj neidvas official 
RH distribution,noedvali e ot zna4enie. Pitam rano za da znam kakvo 
daforword-na ovreme kym tezi koito me pitat ta kato dokopat 9.0 packages ili 
iso files da sa happy;-), pyk ste mi obadqt i na mene kak stavat nestata 
posle. 

Oh, trudno ama maj zapo4nah da stoplqm;-)
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread Valentin Tzankov
gui-to na up2date pokazva samo ISO-ta za RH 9.0, koeto predpolaga
che trjabva da gi zapishesh njakyde, a az njamam 3 Gb na moia Notebook
a na moja Sun Netra X1 up2date ne raboti, uj e XHTML samo, kato se logna
na RHN i se opitam ot tam HTTPS connection mi dava TimeOut sled 10 min.
George Danchev wrote:

On 26 03 2003 14:56, Doncho N. Gunchev wrote:
 

| On Wednesday 26 March 2003 14:08, George Danchev wrote:
|
| On 25 03 2003 20:51, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
|  Imam pitane: zasto ste mu e na niakoi tolkoz rano RH 9.0 Ikzliuchvam
|  tova che tazi versia zavarshva na nula az takiva ne gi haresvam 9.1
|  mi zvuchi dosta po-dobre. Oste poveche che ia iskate 1 sedmica po rano-
|  savsem ste e bugava. ICQ-takva drebna programka ia karam oste na 2001
|  versia bez kapchica zhelanie za upgrade, pak vie iskate cial linux da
|  slagate Istinata e v Sevice Pack-ovete(widowski kazano), a ne v
|  novite versii...:)
|
| imam slednoto pitane za RH9, akonqkoj ve4e go e probval i test-val. Zna4i
| pri instalaiqta ve4e e predvidena i opticiq (qvno dostaty4no nadezhdnai
| dobre obmislena) za cqlosten upgrade na systemata ot previous RH version.
| Koj tool go pravi tova? (za tozi deto e nad rpm imam predvid, ako ima
| takyv) Sega dokolkoto znam up2date e samo za security updates ot tehnite
| FTP-ta, t.e. ne mozhe da se napravi cqlosten ili partial upgrade s nego,
| kakto s apt-get upgrade ili apt-get install something. Koj e analoga na
| apt-get upgrade , znam 4e ima takyv i ako tova e apt tova apt-rpm na
| Conectiva li e ili nesto drugo koeto vika rpm vmesto dpkg. Tova apt
| zaedno s synaptic v official distribution na RH9 li e ili ne? Kvo e
| apt4rpm.sf.net, kvi sa razlikite s Conetiva i Debian ones ? Ne me
| prashtajte da 4eta, stoto ako imash pove4ko vreme sigurno stqhda sravnq
| apt ot debian s tova deto idva s RH ako idva takova s official
| distribution-a na9. 10x za to4nite otgovori.
up2date update-wa wsichko no w ramkite na versiqta - t.e. nqma da ti
naprawi ot RedHat 8.0 RedHat 9.0. apt-get ima i za RedHat weche i po moi
nabliudeniq pliusa mu e che moje da swalq soft ne samo ot ftp-tata na
RedHat no prawi i problemi :( Po wreme na instalatziq tool-a deto e nad RPM
se kazwa Anaconda RedHat Installer. up2date ima i grafichen interfeis ot
koito mojesh da si izbirash koe da i koe da ne update. APT-to za redhat
tyrsi na Freshrpms.net Za RH 9.0 ne moga da kaja ima li novi raboti tyj
kato i na saita ne widqh otde da procheta po temata a i wreme za gluposti
nqma - kato go pusnat shte go pusnat i shte widim, sega i da gledame i da
ne gledame po-hubaw nqma da stane ot towa.
   

Thanks. Zna4i za po4itatelite po4ivka nqma;-). Gledat FTP-tata za 9.0 packages 
ili iso'es non-stop i se 4ertaqt strategii za upgrade s potrivane na ryce;-).  
Zna4i up2date otpada dokolkoto razbrah, maj ste trebe da ima na4in da se 
prinudi da upgrade-va vsi4ko no v ramkite na gornata distribution, e.g. 9.0 
ama neznam kak da stane tova, pyk i nqmam RH pred men... install samo s rpm 
program na .rpm's packages ot 9.0 ste e zhiva myka i tova otpada, no kato 
posleden variant ostava ako nema nakyde;-). Boot ot RH9.0 CDROM i poso4vane 
na upgrade systo otpada ponezhe Toshibata ne mozhe da boot-va PCMCIA CDROM, 
a si ima samo takyv (tuka neznam dali se stane ako se polyzheme malko s boot 
floppies i ako ima vyzmozhnost da mu se ukazhe da upgrade-va posle ot 9.0 
CDROM ?). 

Ostava s nqkyf tool, kato tozi apt za RH ot freshrpms.net, (zasto go nema v 
official RH, ili ima analog) i da mu se ukazhe da to4i i upgrade-va ot 
CDROM-a ili FTP/HTTP arhive-a na RH9.0 (poslednoto e za predpo4itane). Tova 
trebe da stane In my humble opinion,vypreki 4e tova apt maj neidvas official 
RH distribution,noedvali e ot zna4enie. Pitam rano za da znam kakvo 
daforword-na ovreme kym tezi koito me pitat ta kato dokopat 9.0 packages ili 
iso files da sa happy;-), pyk ste mi obadqt i na mene kak stavat nestata 
posle. 

Oh, trudno ama maj zapo4nah da stoplqm;-)
 


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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread George Danchev
On 26 03 2003 18:10, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 gui-to na up2date pokazva samo ISO-ta za RH 9.0, koeto predpolaga
 che trjabva da gi zapishesh njakyde, a az njamam 3 Gb na moia Notebook
 a na moja Sun Netra X1 up2date ne raboti, uj e XHTML samo, kato se logna
 na RHN i se opitam ot tam HTTPS connection mi dava TimeOut sled 10 min.

ama ti ne si pro4el vyprosa, a byrzash da otgovarqsh :-( 
trebe ili tyrsi se RH analog (po vyzmozhnost official tool/way, idvast si s 
distroto i odobrenot tqh) na Debian's {apt-cdrom add} ; apt-get update  
apt-get upgrade s podbran sources.list,ako znaesh kakvo e tova. Demek da 
upgrade RH 8.0 kym 9.0 ot FTP/HTTP mirror ili CDROM.
tova koeto maj ste svyrshi rabota za non-cdrom-bootable computer maj ste e apt 
for rpm freshrpms.net naso4en kym RH9.0 http/ftp/cdrom archive, ako vyobste 
stane, ili http://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~gerald/ftp/autoupdate/index.html
(poslednoto ne sym go probval, ste go prepory4am na tezi koito me pitat, no 
neznam kakvo ste izleze). Samo komentari, nikvi konkretni predlozheniqza 
resheniq. 10x vse pak za consult-a.

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Mnogo dobre te razbrah, prosto ti kazvam che njama kak da stane
pone dokato RHN predlagat samo ISO images, moje po-kysno da dobaviat
drug vid distributzia no sega ima samo ISO-ta. 
Pri Debian e razlichno tam upgrate bez reboot-vane e nesto neobhodimo,
vse pak CD-ta ne se prodava navsjakyde kato pri RedHat.

George Danchev wrote:

On 26 03 2003 18:10, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 

gui-to na up2date pokazva samo ISO-ta za RH 9.0, koeto predpolaga
che trjabva da gi zapishesh njakyde, a az njamam 3 Gb na moia Notebook
a na moja Sun Netra X1 up2date ne raboti, uj e XHTML samo, kato se logna
na RHN i se opitam ot tam HTTPS connection mi dava TimeOut sled 10 min.
   

ama ti ne si pro4el vyprosa, a byrzash da otgovarqsh :-( 
trebe ili tyrsi se RH analog (po vyzmozhnost official tool/way, idvast si s 
distroto i odobrenot tqh) na Debian's {apt-cdrom add} ; apt-get update  
apt-get upgrade s podbran sources.list,ako znaesh kakvo e tova. Demek da 
upgrade RH 8.0 kym 9.0 ot FTP/HTTP mirror ili CDROM.
tova koeto maj ste svyrshi rabota za non-cdrom-bootable computer maj ste e apt 
for rpm freshrpms.net naso4en kym RH9.0 http/ftp/cdrom archive, ako vyobste 
stane, ili http://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~gerald/ftp/autoupdate/index.html
(poslednoto ne sym go probval, ste go prepory4am na tezi koito me pitat, no 
neznam kakvo ste izleze). Samo komentari, nikvi konkretni predlozheniqza 
resheniq. 10x vse pak za consult-a.

 



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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread Yanko Kaneti
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 23:49, George Danchev wrote:
 On 26 03 2003 18:10, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
  gui-to na up2date pokazva samo ISO-ta za RH 9.0, koeto predpolaga
  che trjabva da gi zapishesh njakyde, a az njamam 3 Gb na moia Notebook
  a na moja Sun Netra X1 up2date ne raboti, uj e XHTML samo, kato se logna
  na RHN i se opitam ot tam HTTPS connection mi dava TimeOut sled 10 min.
 
 ama ti ne si pro4el vyprosa, a byrzash da otgovarqsh :-( 
 trebe ili tyrsi se RH analog (po vyzmozhnost official tool/way, idvast si s 
 distroto i odobrenot tqh) na Debian's {apt-cdrom add} ; apt-get update  
 apt-get upgrade s podbran sources.list,ako znaesh kakvo e tova. Demek da 
 upgrade RH 8.0 kym 9.0 ot FTP/HTTP mirror ili CDROM

Oficialnata procedura po upgrade na Red Hat e edna i syshta ot dosta
vreme (az sym siguren za vsichki versii ot 6.2 +), i bez problemi
poddyrja source ot CDROM ili mreja. Tova koeto tryabva da se napravi e
da se startira normalnata instalacionna procedura i da se izbere
upgrade.
Ekvivalent na apt-get dist-upgrade na koito moje da se razchita 100%
mislya vse oshte nyama vupreki che ima hora koito tvyrdyat che stavalo s
poslednite versii na apt(rpm).

   Instalacionnata procedura se startira ili s direktno bootvane ot
cdrom-a  ili chrez boot disketa. Edinstvenoto koeto moje da e problem e
ekzotichen CDROM/mrejov harduer. Pri dobra internet vruzka i jelanie
chovek spokoino moje da si instalira/upgradne Red Hat s edna bootnet
disketa i izpolzvaiki nai blizkiya i udoben mirror.

  Tezi raboti sa opisani dostatychno podrobno v rykowodstwoto za
instalaciq. Eto go za 8.0. 
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/install-guide/
Mislya spokoino mojesh da izchakash oficialnoto izlizane na 9.0 za
negoviya manual, nadali shte ima golemi razliki.


Pozdravi
Yanko

 tova koeto maj ste svyrshi rabota za non-cdrom-bootable computer maj ste e apt 
 for rpm freshrpms.net naso4en kym RH9.0 http/ftp/cdrom archive, ako vyobste 
 stane, ili http://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~gerald/ftp/autoupdate/index.html
 (poslednoto ne sym go probval, ste go prepory4am na tezi koito me pitat, no 
 neznam kakvo ste izleze). Samo komentari, nikvi konkretni predlozheniqza 
 resheniq. 10x vse pak za consult-a.


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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-26 Thread George Danchev
On 27 03 2003 01:03, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 Mnogo dobre te razbrah, prosto ti kazvam che njama kak da stane

Valentin, 
gledaj sega i 4eti vnimatelno;-)

 pone dokato RHN predlagat samo ISO images, moje po-kysno da dobaviat
 drug vid distributzia no sega ima samo ISO-ta.

Zna4i dori i iso-ta da se dokopat az ti kazah 4e se iskashe analog na super 
rutinnata i ezhednevna procedura apt-cdrom add Nema reboot-vane (i 
boot-vane ot CD), dokato ne upgrade kernel-a de i boot pak ot hdd, koeto si e 
v reda na nestata pri vsi4ki OS'es. Other possible methods bi trqbvalo da sa 
http/ftp/sftp/file... 

 Pri Debian e razlichno tam upgrate bez reboot-vane e nesto neobhodimo,
 vse pak CD-ta ne se prodava navsjakyde kato pri RedHat.

Ama ti zasto si mislish 4e pri upgrade ot CD se nalaga vinagi reboot ili i 
boot ot tova CD vkl. i za RH (see above). ISO-ta izgoreni na CD'es sa prosto 
edin ot izto4nicite ot koito mozhe da se upgrade i nema nisto slozhno tuka za 
razbirane. I ponezhe pak komentarvash Debian bez da si zapoznat, neka ti 
obqsnq 4e i tam ima CD vendors koitoti prodavat cd blankata, a ne softuera (a 
da vidim dali ste gi namerish), da ne govorim 4e upgrade bez reboot ne e 
poradi lipsa na CD'es ;-). Osven tova vseki mozhe da si iztegli 7 official 
iso's na stable, 8 i 9 syotvetno za testing i unstable koito se rebuild-vat 
unofficially (see ftp.fsn.hu). Onzi den naprimer mi se zapisa iso-1 na 
unofficial unstable ot March edi koq si den(iztegleno ot ftp.fsn.hu) i up-nah 
some machines, kolega pyk si instalira ot tova systoto unofficial unstable 
bootable CDROM fresh desktop systema. Za ftp/http/others archives mislq 4e 
trebe se sestash 4e e tradiciq. Imenno poradi nali4ieto na podobni 
vyzmozhnosti v Debian v naj skoro vreme maj ste nabludavam svalane na Solaris 
ot Sparc-a, zastoto v tova otnoshenie e as much powerful as beliq gylyb na 
mira ili una paloma blanco kakto kazvat v Espana, t.e. izklu4itelno 
skromen i feature-less, vypreki 4e nqkoj subsys na Solaris kernela vse oste 
prevyzhovdat Linux ones po scalability, no razlikata ne e 4uvstvitelna i se 
stopqva byrzo i osobeno ako ima dobre raboteshti Linux-ski prilozheniq se 
replace-va na momenta i vsi4ko e spokojno, problema e 4e teziprilozheniq ne 
commercial vendor ones i binary only distributed. Sega usestash li kolko 
mnogo smqh i sylzi predizvikva spomenavaneto ti na SunOne i neznam si kakvo 
na Solaris... V krajna smetka moj propusk e 4e ne potyrsih v official docs na 
RH (10x na Yanko Kaneti tuka, kojto dade edin ot malkoto smisleni otgovori), 
stoto mi otgovarqt hora koito imat severe nuzhda ot help, a se opitvat da me 
consult-vat;-) 

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Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Todor Belev

Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat kato bonus za 
horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go svalim i taka...
Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go kachish pri tebe i 
da zaradvash svoite fenove.

todorin

    
 : Georgi Chorbadzhiyski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  : 2003-03-25 09:50:28.0
 --
 Todor Belev wrote:
  Zdraveite, 
  Dokolkoto dochuvam RH 9.0 shte byde izkaran na 31 mart, no shte byde samo za 
  aboniralite se za support.
  Sedmica sled tova shte byde dostypen za obshto svaliane ot serverite im.
  Tuk v BG ima li niakoi,koito moje da go drypne pri sebe si i da go razprostrani.
 
 Kato izleze oficialno shte ima. Nito sekunda predi tova dori i
 da go imam niama da go razprostrania. Haide da ne otvariame
 stariat flamewar za kradeneto na softuer.
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Konstantin Kostadinov
Ura mahame tia debian systemi i skapani bsd-ta ;)))
shte plashtame ;))

Maitap da stava ;)

 
 Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat kato bonus za 
 horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
 Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go svalim i taka...
 Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go kachish pri tebe 
 i da zaradvash svoite fenove.
 
 todorin
 
     
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  : Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   : 2003-03-25 09:50:28.0
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  Todor Belev wrote:
   Zdraveite, 
   Dokolkoto dochuvam RH 9.0 shte byde izkaran na 31 mart, no shte byde samo za 
 aboniralite se za support.
   Sedmica sled tova shte byde dostypen za obshto svaliane ot serverite im.
   Tuk v BG ima li niakoi,koito moje da go drypne pri sebe si i da go razprostrani.
  
  Kato izleze oficialno shte ima. Nito sekunda predi tova dori i
  da go imam niama da go razprostrania. Haide da ne otvariame
  stariat flamewar za kradeneto na softuer.
  
  
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Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Romeo Ninov
   ,?   !
,  .   ,
. !!!


Regards: Romeo Ninov


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/03 10:45 

Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat kato bonus za 
horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go svalim i taka...
Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go kachish pri tebe i 
da zaradvash svoite fenove.

todorin

    
 : Georgi Chorbadzhiyski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 : Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  : 2003-03-25 09:50:28.0
 --
 Todor Belev wrote:
  Zdraveite, 
  Dokolkoto dochuvam RH 9.0 shte byde izkaran na 31 mart, no shte byde samo za 
  aboniralite se za support.
  Sedmica sled tova shte byde dostypen za obshto svaliane ot serverite im.
  Tuk v BG ima li niakoi,koito moje da go drypne pri sebe si i da go razprostrani.
 
 Kato izleze oficialno shte ima. Nito sekunda predi tova dori i
 da go imam niama da go razprostrania. Haide da ne otvariame
 stariat flamewar za kradeneto na softuer.
 
 
 -- 
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Anton Tinchev
Todor Belev wrote:
 Zdraveite, 
 Dokolkoto dochuvam RH 9.0 shte byde izkaran na 31 mart, no shte byde samo za 
 aboniralite se za support.
 Sedmica sled tova shte byde dostypen za obshto svaliane ot serverite im.
 Tuk v BG ima li niakoi,koito moje da go drypne pri sebe si i da go razprostrani.
 
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Umorila se chervenata shapchica i si legnala na edna polianka da pospi.
Spi si tia, po edno vreme se sabudila i gleda belezka:
Chervena shapchice, ti veche ne si devstvena podpis: Vulkut.
Zapspala si otnovo tia sladko sladko.
Po niakoe vreme se sabuzda i vizda druga belezka:
Chervena shapchice, ti veche savsem ne si devstvena podpis: Vulkut.
Pochudila se tia, pochudila se, posle pak zaspala.
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Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Teodor Georgiev

Prodylzhavaite sys sushtia mantalitet i se oplakvaite che karate na filii s
ketchup i maioneza.

- Original Message -
From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava



 Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat kato
bonus za horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
 Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go svalim i
taka...
 Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go kachish
pri tebe i da zaradvash svoite fenove.

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Re: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Todor Belev

Blagodaria, 
Mantaliteta ne mi e tochno takyv de ama shtom preceniash che ot mantalitet ide.
Iavno sym sgreshil che po byrzo sym poiskal neshto koeto i bez tova shte izliza ama s 
malko zakysnenie.

todorin

    
 : Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  : 2003-03-25 12:30:48.0
 --
 
 Prodylzhavaite sys sushtia mantalitet i se oplakvaite che karate na filii s
 ketchup i maioneza.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:45 AM
 Subject: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
 
 
 
  Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat kato
 bonus za horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
  Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go svalim i
 taka...
  Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go kachish
 pri tebe i da zaradvash svoite fenove.
 
  todorin
 
 
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Re: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Teodor Georgiev


Wizh, ne iskam pak da zatyvam v tia razpravii.
Prosto vsichko e super prostichko - Redhat si predlagat tehnia produkt i sa
si opredelili niakakva politika za nego.
Dali e greshno ili pravilno e tema na drug razgovor. Tova si e tiahno
reshenie - uwazhi go, ne go potypkvai.
Kakto na teb nikoi ne ti potypkva pravoto da zhiveesh ili da lupish semki na
terasata si.
Tova zakysnenie imenno e bonusa, koito poluchavat registriranite
potrebiteli na Redhat. I te sa go poluchili
s finansovite sredstva, koito sa izpratili v Redhat.
Ami prosto tezi hora triabva da imat nqkakvo predimstvo, koeto e nistozhno v
sluchaq. Izkluchitelno naglo e da se
natiskash da se narezhdash pri tiah.

- Original Message -
From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava



 Blagodaria,
 Mantaliteta ne mi e tochno takyv de ama shtom preceniash che ot mantalitet
ide.
 Iavno sym sgreshil che po byrzo sym poiskal neshto koeto i bez tova shte
izliza ama s malko zakysnenie.

 todorin

     
  : Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  : Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   : 2003-03-25 12:30:48.0
  --
  
  Prodylzhavaite sys sushtia mantalitet i se oplakvaite che karate na
filii s
  ketchup i maioneza.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:45 AM
  Subject: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
  
  
  
   Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat
kato
  bonus za horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
   Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go svalim
i
  taka...
   Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go
kachish
  pri tebe i da zaradvash svoite fenove.
  
   todorin
  

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Peio Popov
  RH,
  , 6-
  ,   

	 

Teodor Georgiev wrote:
Wizh, ne iskam pak da zatyvam v tia razpravii.
Prosto vsichko e super prostichko - Redhat si predlagat tehnia produkt i sa
si opredelili niakakva politika za nego.
Dali e greshno ili pravilno e tema na drug razgovor. Tova si e tiahno
reshenie - uwazhi go, ne go potypkvai.
Kakto na teb nikoi ne ti potypkva pravoto da zhiveesh ili da lupish semki na
terasata si.
Tova zakysnenie imenno e bonusa, koito poluchavat registriranite
potrebiteli na Redhat. I te sa go poluchili
s finansovite sredstva, koito sa izpratili v Redhat.
Ami prosto tezi hora triabva da imat nqkakvo predimstvo, koeto e nistozhno v
sluchaq. Izkluchitelno naglo e da se
natiskash da se narezhdash pri tiah.
- Original Message -
From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava


Blagodaria,
Mantaliteta ne mi e tochno takyv de ama shtom preceniash che ot mantalitet
ide.

Iavno sym sgreshil che po byrzo sym poiskal neshto koeto i bez tova shte
izliza ama s malko zakysnenie.

todorin

   
: Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : 2003-03-25 12:30:48.0
--

Prodylzhavaite sys sushtia mantalitet i se oplakvaite che karate na
filii s

ketchup i maioneza.

- Original Message -
From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava



 Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat
kato

bonus za horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
 Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go svalim
i

taka...
 Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go
kachish

pri tebe i da zaradvash svoite fenove.

 todorin

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Da vchhera updatvah Sendmail i vidjah che v RedCarpet predlagat beta 
version v momenta.

Todor Belev wrote:

Zdraveite, 
Dokolkoto dochuvam RH 9.0 shte byde izkaran na 31 mart, no shte byde samo za aboniralite se za support.
Sedmica sled tova shte byde dostypen za obshto svaliane ot serverite im.
Tuk v BG ima li niakoi,koito moje da go drypne pri sebe si i da go razprostrani.

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread George Danchev
On 26 03 2003 01:52, Peio Popov wrote:
   RH  
  ,  , 6
-
   ,  
 

   GPL  
100 ...
  .  
,
 , .. (Debian, 
Gentoo, *BSD'es).  
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  . ,  
  ...;-)

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Romeo Ninov
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   .
   -,   
 ()  


Regards: Romeo Ninov


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/26/03 01:52 
  RH  
  ,
  , 6-
  ,
   

 

Teodor Georgiev wrote:
 
 Wizh, ne iskam pak da zatyvam v tia razpravii.
 Prosto vsichko e super prostichko - Redhat si predlagat tehnia produkt i sa
 si opredelili niakakva politika za nego.
 Dali e greshno ili pravilno e tema na drug razgovor. Tova si e tiahno
 reshenie - uwazhi go, ne go potypkvai.
 Kakto na teb nikoi ne ti potypkva pravoto da zhiveesh ili da lupish semki na
 terasata si.
 Tova zakysnenie imenno e bonusa, koito poluchavat registriranite
 potrebiteli na Redhat. I te sa go poluchili
 s finansovite sredstva, koito sa izpratili v Redhat.
 Ami prosto tezi hora triabva da imat nqkakvo predimstvo, koeto e nistozhno v
 sluchaq. Izkluchitelno naglo e da se
 natiskash da se narezhdash pri tiah.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
 
 
 
Blagodaria,
Mantaliteta ne mi e tochno takyv de ama shtom preceniash che ot mantalitet
 
 ide.
 
Iavno sym sgreshil che po byrzo sym poiskal neshto koeto i bez tova shte
 
 izliza ama s malko zakysnenie.
 
todorin

    
 : Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 : Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  : 2003-03-25 12:30:48.0
 --
 
 Prodylzhavaite sys sushtia mantalitet i se oplakvaite che karate na
 
 filii s
 
 ketchup i maioneza.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:45 AM
 Subject: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
 
 
 
  Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat
 
 kato
 
 bonus za horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
  Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go svalim
 
 i
 
 taka...
  Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go
 
 kachish
 
 pri tebe i da zaradvash svoite fenove.
 
  todorin
 

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Doncho N. Gunchev
E kakwo tolkowa? Ako RedHat prekalqt s ideite za komersializatziq i t.n. 
kakwo shte stane spored was? Spored mene ima dostatychno alternativi :) I az 
polzwam RedHat w kyshti, i az mu hareswam chasti ot nego - rpm (na posledno 
wreme kakto zabiwa ne tolkowa), /etc/rc.d ... ala bala, no ako trqbwa wijte 
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ - ei towa winagi shte si e dostypno za wseki 
ako shte wsichki distributzii da stanat 10 pyti po skypi ot windows 2k, nali?
E... nadqwam se do tam da ne stigne nikoga :) Kysmet...
-- 
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{ All programmers are optimists -- Frederick P. Brooks, Jr. }
| On Wednesday 26 March 2003 01:52, Peio Popov wrote:
|   RH  
|  ,  , 6
|-
|   ,  
| 
|
|
|
| Teodor Georgiev wrote:
|  Wizh, ne iskam pak da zatyvam v tia razpravii.
|  Prosto vsichko e super prostichko - Redhat si predlagat tehnia produkt i
|  sa si opredelili niakakva politika za nego.
|  Dali e greshno ili pravilno e tema na drug razgovor. Tova si e tiahno
|  reshenie - uwazhi go, ne go potypkvai.
|  Kakto na teb nikoi ne ti potypkva pravoto da zhiveesh ili da lupish semki
|  na terasata si.
|  Tova zakysnenie imenno e bonusa, koito poluchavat registriranite
|  potrebiteli na Redhat. I te sa go poluchili
|  s finansovite sredstva, koito sa izpratili v Redhat.
|  Ami prosto tezi hora triabva da imat nqkakvo predimstvo, koeto e
|  nistozhno v sluchaq. Izkluchitelno naglo e da se
|  natiskash da se narezhdash pri tiah.
| 
|  - Original Message -
|  From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:34 PM
|  Subject: Re: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
| 
| Blagodaria,
| Mantaliteta ne mi e tochno takyv de ama shtom preceniash che ot
|  mantalitet
| 
|  ide.
| 
| Iavno sym sgreshil che po byrzo sym poiskal neshto koeto i bez tova shte
| 
|  izliza ama s malko zakysnenie.
| 
| todorin
| 
|     
|  : Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  : Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
|  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   : 2003-03-25 12:30:48.0
|  --
|  
|  Prodylzhavaite sys sushtia mantalitet i se oplakvaite che karate na
| 
|  filii s
| 
|  ketchup i maioneza.
|  
|  - Original Message -
|  From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:45 AM
|  Subject: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
|  
|   Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go puskat
| 
|  kato
| 
|  bonus za horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
|  
|   Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go
|   svalim
| 
|  i
| 
|  taka...
|  
|   Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go
| 
|  kachish
| 
|  pri tebe i da zaradvash svoite fenove.
|  
|   todorin
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Vse pak dilemata,da se zadovoljat sharehold-erite i da zadovoljat 
potrebiitelite, ne systestvuva,
t.e. ako sa dovolni potrebitelite to i shareholderite ste sa dovolni, 
taka che tova edva li ste stane,
v smisyl CEO-to na RH kaza na LinuxWorld che tezi koito si plastat sa 
tvyrd protzent ot tezi koito ne si plastat,
i s RH se nabludavalo che uvelichavaneto na tezi koito ne si plastat i 
uvelichavaneto na tezi koito si plastat se
dvijat s ednakva skorost, taka che dokato tova e istina njama zasto da 
se trevojish.
Tova s RH9 e trik za tezi koito sa vmanjacheni da imat vsichko naj-novo 
i za koito 60$ sa nisto,
takiva gi ima v US v izobiliie, spomnjam si kakvo stavashe v magazinite 
za PlayStation2 predi godina.



Peio Popov wrote:

  RH  
  ,  
, 6-
  ,   


 

Teodor Georgiev wrote:

Wizh, ne iskam pak da zatyvam v tia razpravii.
Prosto vsichko e super prostichko - Redhat si predlagat tehnia 
produkt i sa
si opredelili niakakva politika za nego.
Dali e greshno ili pravilno e tema na drug razgovor. Tova si e tiahno
reshenie - uwazhi go, ne go potypkvai.
Kakto na teb nikoi ne ti potypkva pravoto da zhiveesh ili da lupish 
semki na
terasata si.
Tova zakysnenie imenno e bonusa, koito poluchavat registriranite
potrebiteli na Redhat. I te sa go poluchili
s finansovite sredstva, koito sa izpratili v Redhat.
Ami prosto tezi hora triabva da imat nqkakvo predimstvo, koeto e 
nistozhno v
sluchaq. Izkluchitelno naglo e da se
natiskash da se narezhdash pri tiah.

- Original Message -
From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava


Blagodaria,
Mantaliteta ne mi e tochno takyv de ama shtom preceniash che ot 
mantalitet


ide.

Iavno sym sgreshil che po byrzo sym poiskal neshto koeto i bez tova shte


izliza ama s malko zakysnenie.

todorin

   
: Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : 2003-03-25 12:30:48.0
--

Prodylzhavaite sys sushtia mantalitet i se oplakvaite che karate na


filii s

ketchup i maioneza.

- Original Message -
From: Todor Belev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava



 Nishto nema da kradem be Chorbadsjiiski prosto horata ot RH go 
puskat


kato

bonus za horata koito si plashtat i stava vypros za ednata sedmica...
 Ideiata mi beshe che ako ima niakoi s platen support moje da go 
svalim


i

taka...
 Az lichno ako se dokopam byrzo do ISO-tata shte ti go vrycha da go


kachish

pri tebe i da zaradvash svoite fenove.

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Tova s dotiraneto ne tochno taka, ne e garantirano che vinagi ste ima 
koj da dava pari.
Moje bi samo BSD sa zastiten pone dokato e vkljuchen v spisyka ot vazni 
producti
za US national security i poluchava pari ot US goverment

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/03/13/darpabsd.html .

No ako Debian  si  zagubjat naj-golemite sponsouri ot Germania,
ne sym mnogo ubeden do kolko moje da prosystestvuvat
zasto ste triabva da razchitat na Universitetite samo.

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread George Danchev
On 25 03 2003 18:51, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 Tova s dotiraneto ne tochno taka, ne e garantirano che vinagi ste ima
 koj da dava pari.
 Moje bi samo BSD sa zastiten pone dokato e vkljuchen v spisyka ot vazni
 producti
 za US national security i poluchava pari ot US goverment

 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/03/13/darpabsd.html .

tova za national security-to go obqsnqvaj na US citizens;-)
ina4e mda DARPA, NASA snasqt ot vreme na vreme, no tova ne e kato godishen 
budget, a incidentni injections dokolkoto znam.

 No ako Debian  si  zagubjat naj-golemite sponsouri ot Germania,
 ne sym mnogo ubeden do kolko moje da prosystestvuvat
 zasto ste triabva da razchitat na Universitetite samo.

Spored tezi tvyrdeniq ne bitrqbvalo da se pravi nisto for free i da se dotira, 
a to defakto se pravi ot dostagodini. Neznam koi sa tezi sponsors from 
Germany, no HP maj snasqt naj-mnogo - za bandwidth, build machines razni 
architectures, conferencij i t.n, defakto sa Debian Lab inside. Sun systo... 
to si pishe nqkyde po site-a. Be s dve dumi spored men modela na Debian, e 
to4no tozi kato na Linux kernel-a - neutralni, koj dade dade, drugoto e 
volunteer coding/hacking, taka 4e maj sa ednakvo zastrasheni ili zastiteni 
otnosno prosystestvuvane ili iz4ezvane poradi lipsa na dotacij... i btw 
budget-a na organizaciq kato Debian e mnogo malyk dokolkoto znam, nqkolko 
hilqdi dolara na godina za bandwidth i eventualno upgrade na nqkoi machines 
... e Sun primerno podarqvat zheleza, kaktoi HP;-)

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RE: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev
Imam pitane: zasto ste mu e na niakoi tolkoz rano RH 9.0 Ikzliuchvam tova
che tazi versia zavarshva na nula az takiva ne gi haresvam 9.1 mi zvuchi
dosta po-dobre. Oste poveche che ia iskate 1 sedmica po rano- savsem ste e
bugava. ICQ-takva drebna programka ia karam oste na 2001 versia bez kapchica
zhelanie za upgrade, pak vie iskate cial linux da slagate
Istinata e v Sevice Pack-ovete(widowski kazano), a ne v novite versii...:)
:):):):):):):):):)

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-25 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Vsystnost sistemata na Debian e malko slojna,
tam vseki module si ima sponsor kato vseki moje da kandidastva za 
sponsorship.
na http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ moje da vidish
za taka narechenite 'Orphaned' packages, a sled kato porabotish malko
moje da potyrsish sponsor.
Za nemskite firmi imah v predvid Siemens i DT, predi godina rabotih
s edin anglichanin David George i toj mi razpravjashe kak si nameril
chast ot coda kojto e razrabotval za Siemens v Debian, toj
raboti sega za France Telecom, toj tvyrdeshe che 7-8 ot top
developerite na Debian poluchavat zaplati ot njakavo sdrujenie
na nemskite softwareni firmi.
Prosto nikoj nikade ne dava pari ej taka, i HP i Siemens i Sun
imat edin i syst interes, a i developer-ite ne mogat da rabotiat vechno 
bez pari
osven ako ne sa student-i razbira se.  Predi na savannah.gnu.org
imashe mnogo interesna pisanie po-vyprosa kak se pravjat pari ot 
open-source.


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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9.0 se zadava

2003-03-24 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Todor Belev wrote:
 Zdraveite, 
 Dokolkoto dochuvam RH 9.0 shte byde izkaran na 31 mart, no shte byde samo za 
 aboniralite se za support.
 Sedmica sled tova shte byde dostypen za obshto svaliane ot serverite im.
 Tuk v BG ima li niakoi,koito moje da go drypne pri sebe si i da go razprostrani.

Kato izleze oficialno shte ima. Nito sekunda predi tova dori i
da go imam niama da go razprostrania. Haide da ne otvariame
stariat flamewar za kradeneto na softuer.


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0 rpm problem fix

2003-02-28 Thread Vesko Nedev
George Danchev wrote:
  ;-)  apt  ,dpkg  rpm  
 ,   .. apt  level,  
   ;-)
,   ** fix ?

  , apt  rpm -Uvh
  ,rpm -Fvh,   apt-get upgrade 
  rpm -Uvh.



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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0 rpm problem fix

2003-02-28 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
zabeliazal sum che zabivaneto spira da se poiaviava kogato imash
breaknati dependencies ;-)))
S drugi dumi ako narochno instalirash niakoi rpm, koito ne ti triabva,
no se nujdae ot drug koito sushto ne e instaliran, demek izpolzvash
--nodeps, to rpm spira da se chupi pri po natatushni deistvia s nego.

Tupo , no fakt !

 , 2003-02-28  12:12, Vesko Nedev :
 George Danchev wrote:
;-)  apt  ,dpkg  rpm  
   ,   .. apt  level,  
 ;-)
  ,   ** fix ?
  
   , apt  rpm -Uvh
   ,rpm -Fvh,   apt-get upgrade 
   rpm -Uvh.
 
 
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0 rpm problem fix

2003-02-28 Thread Doncho N. Gunchev
Mnogo liubopitno, towa oznachawa li che ako si sloja 1 paket 
FixStupidRPM.noarch.rpm koito mu zabiq dependancy che iska 
NeverMade.noarch.rpm i go --nodeps-na shte raboti bez problem? Shte go 
probwam i ako e taka si struva da se report-ne na delevlop-erite - mi da 
slojat pone po 1 takyw paket w RedHat-a che da nqa problemi ;]]] xaxa
Teoritichno mi se struwa che e wyzmojno wypreki che se sheguwam, moje towa da 
prekarwa koda prez razklonenie koeto kato stranichen efekt da initzializira 
neshto si primerno... Shte probwam i ako se oprawi shte pisha :)

U never know!

On Friday 28 February 2003 12:06, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
 zabeliazal sum che zabivaneto spira da se poiaviava kogato imash
 breaknati dependencies ;-)))
 S drugi dumi ako narochno instalirash niakoi rpm, koito ne ti triabva,
 no se nujdae ot drug koito sushto ne e instaliran, demek izpolzvash
 --nodeps, to rpm spira da se chupi pri po natatushni deistvia s nego.

 Tupo , no fakt !

  , 2003-02-28  12:12, Vesko Nedev :
  George Danchev wrote:
 ;-)  apt  ,dpkg 
   rpm   ,   .. apt
level, ;-)
   ,   ** fix ?
 
, apt  rpm -Uvh
,rpm -Fvh,   apt-get upgrade
rpm -Uvh.
  
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-27 Thread Boris Jordanov
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 paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto


Ne hvastam idejata, v posochenata statia AS e sukrastenie ot 
Anticipatory Scheduler. Kude e vruzkata s Advanced Server?

Take care


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-27 Thread Romeo Ninov
Da ne goworim the totshno toja kernel (s AS nakraja) pri goliama tshast ot operatsiie 
e dosta po-napred pred drugite tri!!!


Regards: Romeo Ninov


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 paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto


Ne hvastam idejata, v posochenata statia AS e sukrastenie ot 
Anticipatory Scheduler. Kude e vruzkata s Advanced Server?

Take care


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-27 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Zasto ne prestane tazi discusia,  prosto mneniat sa strasno subectivni
i povyrhnostni.
Po-dobre discusiata da se razdeli na pod -temi
primerno za , protiv i alternativi na RH Cluster Manager ili
za, protiv i alternativi na (RHN Enterprise Service ).
Osven tova nalichni li sa drugi certified product za Oracle, IBM Websphere,
Bea Weblogic i drugi enterprise producti?
Az njamam nisto protiv pravoto na mnenie, no prosto ne mislja che ima
drug linux product kojato firma ot Top 1000 bi dopusna, osven tova
Serverite sa obiknovenno certificirani samo za RHAS.
I tova e problema nikoj ne pita koj Linux e po-dobyr, prosto vseki pita
na koj linux e garantirano che Oracle ili Sybase primerno ste raboti,
ili kakvo e grantirano che ste raboti na tozi Server otivash na site im 
kakvo vijdash
predimno RH, tova e.

Boris Jordanov wrote:

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izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno
imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat
paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto
   

Ne hvastam idejata, v posochenata statia AS e sukrastenie ot 
Anticipatory Scheduler. Kude e vruzkata s Advanced Server?

Take care

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-27 Thread Boris Jordanov
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 Zasto ne prestane tazi discusia,  prosto mneniat sa strasno subectivni
 i povyrhnostni.

Sled kraja na tvoja posting sledvashe citiran moja posleden. Priemam, che 
vizirash nego. Ti prochete li tova na koeto otgovarjam? A tova koeto pitah?

Az prosto ne vidjah vruzkata sus Advanced Server, a e postnato pod sustia 
topic! Defacto tova ne e chast ot diskusiata pod chiito topic vse oste sme. 
Ama choveka taka go pusna. Izvinjavaj, che ne mi stana jasno. Na nesta koito 
ne sa mi jasni za v budeste ste si mulcha.

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-27 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Izvinjavaj vizirah ne tvoja posting a predisnia,
prosto na i slednite dumi na Emo Terziev bjaha naj-otgore i
tova me zabludi.
Mojebi tova ste e interesno za vsichki
izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno
imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat
paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto
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Zasto ne prestane tazi discusia,  prosto mneniat sa strasno subectivni
i povyrhnostni.
   

Sled kraja na tvoja posting sledvashe citiran moja posleden. Priemam, che 
vizirash nego. Ti prochete li tova na koeto otgovarjam? A tova koeto pitah?

Az prosto ne vidjah vruzkata sus Advanced Server, a e postnato pod sustia 
topic! Defacto tova ne e chast ot diskusiata pod chiito topic vse oste sme. 
Ama choveka taka go pusna. Izvinjavaj, che ne mi stana jasno. Na nesta koito 
ne sa mi jasni za v budeste ste si mulcha.

- -- 
Take care

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-27 Thread Alexander Velin
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Valentin Tzankov wrote:

 na koj linux e garantirano che Oracle ili Sybase primerno ste raboti,

  , , 
   . :)

happy hacking,
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0 rpm problem fix

2003-02-27 Thread Vesko Nedev
Doncho N. Gunchev wrote:
Ponqkoga mi se e sluchwalo kato dam primerno:
rpm -Fhv *.rpm
rpm-to da zawisne
Wyprosa mi e nqkoi drug imal li e podoben problem s rpm i nqkoi ima li 
po-dobra ideq za workaround ili fix (dai boje).
 , .
apt  freshrpms.net - 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0 rpm problem fix

2003-02-27 Thread George Danchev
On 28 02 2003 08:35, Vesko Nedev wrote:
 Doncho N. Gunchev wrote:

  Ponqkoga mi se e sluchwalo kato dam primerno:
  rpm -Fhv *.rpm
  rpm-to da zawisne
  Wyprosa mi e nqkoi drug imal li e podoben problem s rpm i nqkoi ima
  li  po-dobra ideq za workaround ili fix (dai boje).

 
  , .
 apt  freshrpms.net - 
 update- .

  ;-)  apt  ,dpkg  rpm  
 ,   .. apt  level,  
   ;-)
,   ** fix ?

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Re: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-27 Thread Todor Belev
Gluposti,gluposti gluposti...


    
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 : Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  : 2003-02-27 16:49:51.0
 --
 Da ne goworim the totshno toja kernel (s AS nakraja) pri goliama tshast ot 
 operatsiie e dosta po-napred pred drugite tri!!!
 
 
 Regards: Romeo Ninov
 
 
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  Mojebi tova ste e interesno za vsichki
   izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno
  imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat
  paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto
 
 
 Ne hvastam idejata, v posochenata statia AS e sukrastenie ot 
 Anticipatory Scheduler. Kude e vruzkata s Advanced Server?
 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Victor Senderov
On Monday 24 February 2003 16:42, Teodor Georgiev wrote:

 na rabota. Kakvo li shte stane ako utre na Alan Cox i drugite im pisne i
 kazhat - aide mainata vi, ot utre koito iska kernela, shte si plashta.


   ,  kernel-   GPL  ,
 ,.RMS  
   (  HURD   
  ).  Free Software   
.  (-  RMS  ).

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
 , 2003-02-25  10:09, Victor Senderov :
 On Monday 24 February 2003 16:42, Teodor Georgiev wrote:
 
  na rabota. Kakvo li shte stane ako utre na Alan Cox i drugite im pisne i
  kazhat - aide mainata vi, ot utre koito iska kernela, shte si plashta.
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Victor Senderov
On Monday 24 February 2003 11:01, Boris Jordanov wrote:


 Da, stoto KDE people ne im haresa, che RH unificiraha vunsnia vid na KDE i
 Gnome (dokolkoto e vuzmozno) v RH8. Smeshna rabota.

   .   
KDE .  (..KDE),  
  ,.,  
 KDE  RedHat,  GNOME  -,  
RedHat- KDE  .,  KDE.
   :  : breakages,   
  ..   ,-
 Font Installer.

http://www.mosfet.org/noredhat.html

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Pak dyvchem vafli i pliuem mnogo trohi kato govorim s pylna usta...

Tozi link si e dosta pristrasten i avtorite mu stradat or silno razvita fobia.

Sys syshtia uspeh mozhe da se napishe i 

.../nomandrake.html
.../nodebian.html
.../noslackware.html
.../no_kakvoto_vi_hrumne.html

Mislia, che celta na tozi list e da obediniava horata raboteshti pod LINUX,
a ne da gi razdeiniava na principa Ti polzvash edin kakva si distribucia,
znachi si glupak.. zashtoto ima samo edna syvyrshena distribucia i tia
e nananana... Tova sa pylni gluposti i nedoizhivian pubertet. Chovek izpolzva
tova, koeto mu vyrshi rabota i mu haresva. Osven tova se nauchete da
cenite truda na drugite i prestanete da prenasiate atmosferata na tribunite
na stadionite i tuk s ovikvania i prestanete s citirania na ne do tam verni
 iztochnici i ne prenasiaite lichnite fobii tuk.

Edin ot malkoto kompetentni otgovori po vyprosa beshe na Boris Jordanov.
Dostoen za pylno syzhalenie e facta, che toi ostana nerazbran. A pri
tova e chovek s ogromen opit i mozhete da se uchite ot nego na mnogo
mnogo neshta, a ne da liupite semki da go osvirkvate.

Nikoi ne vi kara da polzvate edna ili druga distribucia. Kato ne iskate RH
ne go polzvate i tolkova. Ami po syshtata logika mozhe da byde opliuta
vsiaka edna distribucia. I ako ne traibva da polzvame tova, koeto e opliuto,
to mai.. ne ostava kakvo da polzvame.

  Molia vi, nedeite da prevryshtame lista v mezhduselski sybor...

  Pozdravi i pozhelania za uspeh da vsichki
Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Tuesday 25 February 2003 10:18, Victor Senderov wrote:

.  
  
 KDE .  (..  
   KDE), 
,
 .,

Nima? I promenite gi njama v SRPM? Kakto veche beshe spomenato RH sa osnoven 
igrach pri Gnome. V tozi smisuk KDE e nesto kato konkurenten produkt. 
Vupreki tova toj e vkluchen v distribuciata. I sled kato RH developers ne 
razbirat ot KDE i pravjat kalpavi promeni po nego, zasto da gi objavjavat, za 
da razvaljat imidza na KDE? 



Tova zvuchi neseriozno. KDE team ne sa njakakvi god like creatures. Ima si 
license i tam pishe kakvo i kak moze. I stom RH iskat da modificirat...

KDE  RedHat, 
  GNOME  -,
  RedHat- KDE  ., 
 

Az polzvam RH8. Desktop-a mi e KDE. Redhat-sko KDE.

 KDE.:  
 : breakages, 
 ..
,
-  Font Installer.

 http://www.mosfet.org/noredhat.html

Mosfet li e authority? :) Che toj se otdeli i ot KDE team-a, stoto imaha 
raznoglasia za liquid. Ot togava na sam vse se zavrusta i kato ne mu haresa 
nesto pak pravi sapuneni operi i napuska.


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
svetla wrote:
 vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama  i free razbirash li...prosto se 
 opitvat i  da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti 
 pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto 
 defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e 
 niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova 

Naricha se *MARKETING*


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
svetla wrote:
 vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama  i free razbirash li...prosto se 
 opitvat i  da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti 
 pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto 
 defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e 
 niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova 

   0   2   4   6   8   10

/
   /
  /
 /
/
   /
  /
   TROLL-O-METER


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Victor Senderov
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:55, Vesselin Kolev wrote:
 Pak dyvchem vafli i pliuem mnogo trohi kato govorim s pylna usta...

   ,  .  
,  ,
 ,, 
,  - !


 Tozi link si e dosta pristrasten i avtorite mu stradat or silno razvita
 fobia.

  .


 Sys syshtia uspeh mozhe da se napishe i

 .../nomandrake.html
 .../nodebian.html
 .../noslackware.html
 .../no_kakvoto_vi_hrumne.html

,,RedHat,  
   ,.


 Mislia, che celta na tozi list e da obediniava horata raboteshti pod LINUX,
 a ne da gi razdeiniava na principa Ti polzvash edin kakva si distribucia,
 znachi si glupak.. zashtoto ima samo edna syvyrshena distribucia i tia
 e nananana... Tova sa pylni gluposti i nedoizhivian pubertet. Chovek
 izpolzva tova, koeto mu vyrshi rabota i mu haresva.

. ,
.  
  KDE,KDE team,  RedHat 
  ,  .

 Osven tova se nauchete
 da cenite truda na drugite i prestanete da prenasiate atmosferata na
 tribunite na stadionite i tuk s ovikvania i prestanete s citirania na ne do
 tam verni iztochnici i ne prenasiaite lichnite fobii tuk.

 , .
,  .  
RedHat  (  ),
   KDE!


 Edin ot malkoto kompetentni otgovori po vyprosa beshe na Boris Jordanov.
 Dostoen za pylno syzhalenie e facta, che toi ostana nerazbran. A pri
 tova e chovek s ogromen opit i mozhete da se uchite ot nego na mnogo
 mnogo neshta, a ne da liupite semki da go osvirkvate.

  ,   ,
 ,   
 .


 Nikoi ne vi kara da polzvate edna ili druga distribucia. Kato ne iskate RH
 ne go polzvate i tolkova. Ami po syshtata logika mozhe da byde opliuta
 vsiaka edna distribucia. I ako ne traibva da polzvame tova, koeto e
 opliuto, to mai.. ne ostava kakvo da polzvame.

.  ,  ?   ,   
   .,  .   
?


   Molia vi, nedeite da prevryshtame lista v mezhduselski sybor...

.   
 thread  , .flamewar- 
.  flamewar, 
  ,.
   ...

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Victor Senderov
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 10:02, Boris Jordanov wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 February 2003 10:18, Victor Senderov wrote:
 .  
  
   KDE .  
  (..KDE), 
 ,   
   .,

 Nima? I promenite gi njama v SRPM? Kakto veche beshe spomenato RH sa
 osnoven igrach pri Gnome. V tozi smisuk KDE e nesto kato konkurenten
 produkt. Vupreki tova toj e vkluchen v distribuciata. I sled kato RH
 developers ne razbirat ot KDE i pravjat kalpavi promeni po nego, zasto da
 gi objavjavat, za da razvaljat imidza na KDE?

 KDE. 
  GPL   
split-  
   .  , 
 ,   
 .


 

 Tova zvuchi neseriozno. KDE team ne sa njakakvi god like creatures. Ima si
 license i tam pishe kakvo i kak moze. I stom RH iskat da modificirat...

 .


 KDE  RedHat
  ,  GNOME  -,
   RedHat- KDE  ., 
 
  

 Az polzvam RH8. Desktop-a mi e KDE. Redhat-sko KDE.

 ?3.1  kde.org.


  KDE.:  
  : breakages, 
  ..

  ,-  Font 
  Installer.
 
  http://www.mosfet.org/noredhat.html

 Mosfet li e authority? :) Che toj se otdeli i ot KDE team-a, stoto imaha
 raznoglasia za liquid. Ot togava na sam vse se zavrusta i kato ne mu haresa
 nesto pak pravi sapuneni operi i napuska.

,. 
  authority  kde ( )
 .   
 ,   
packages (  )  RedHat 8.0  KDE 3.1 , 
  KDE  
RedHat,   .

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-25 Thread Konstantin Angelov

Ne vi li omruzna da laete edin sreshtu drug i da floodvate listata??

Konstantin Angelov
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Kliment Ognianov




Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:

  
Sravniavash iabylki i portokali, mp3-tata niamat nishto obshto s
narushavaneto
na licenzite na softuera. Pri muzikata rabotata stoi po savsem
razlichen nachin
kakvo shte kazhesh za kolekciata mi ot diskovete koito sam ia
encodnal za da si
ia slusham? Diskovete sam si gi kupil.

  
  
Niamash nito edna downloadnata MP3-ka ?
I kakva e razlikat mejdu mp3 i software - i v dvata sluchaia kradesh
intelektualen produkt i ostetiavash avtorite mu ?

  

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  . , 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Sunday 23 February 2003 19:57, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:

 Ste ti dam primer:
 http://www.sap.com/linux
 Predlgat democd za Sap Basis chasta ot SAP R/3 za linux
 Tova zhivotno po princip varvi i na obiknoven linux(trudno-tonove problemi)
 no za da vidish kak realno stavat nestata
 ti triabva:

 SLES(Suse Linux Enterprise Server) http://www.suse.com/sles
 ili
 RedHat Advanced Server
 http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/

 Az ako iskam da si testvam vkasti za da si razvia znanie i umeniata.?
 Kkav korporativen klinet sam ?

A kakvo ste klatish vkusti sus SAP be pich? Koj maloumnik ste trugne da si 
igrae vkusti sus SAP, OSVEN ako njama klient za nego? Da si vizdal domashni 
SAP clienti?

Oste ne sum prochel taja diskusia dokraja i veche ne sum siguren dali iskam da 
go napravja. OK, vsichki sme polzvali warez. OK, bedni sme,no:

- - VSEKI kojto e hvurlil trud i vreme za da izgradi nesto ima pulnoto pravo da 
iska otplata za nego.
- - Lipsata na pari da kupish nesto _NE_E_ opravdanie da go otkradnesh, i ako go 
napravish vse pak _AMA_NIKAK_NE_E_OPRAVDANIE_ da trubish - njamam, zatova 
ste krada, ja njakoi ako go ima da mi go dade, a?
- - Tova _NE_E_ warez list, zatova iskah moderirane! I pak go iskam.


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Sunday 23 February 2003 09:26, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:

 RedHat imat 6 kernel-developeri i niakolko dushi pisheshti tehnite si
 prilojenia. Ako se zavurtish po forumite shte vidish che NISHTO KOETO
 REDHAT sa promenili po kernela, gnome, kamo li puk KDE NE E SUBMITNATO
 OBRATNO na suotvetnite proekti !


Bullshit. Trjabva da imat hurd of developers li? Linus maj go pravi sam. A da 
imash ideja koj plasta zaplatata na Alan Cox? 

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev
George Danchev wrote:

On 24 02 2003 11:31, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:

 

:) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta
nikyde ne e instalirana,
no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, 
   

nedej da piratirash RH ;-) .. Eto naprimer:
Advantages of OpenMosix on IBM xSeries (may be wrapped)
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosix.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMosix1
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart2.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMozix2
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart3.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMosix3
Gentoo, Debian, etc ... (vnimavajte s dumata enterprice ready;-)
Trqbva da se otbelezhi 4e ima nqkolko tipa clusters... IBM i drugi imat i s RH 
estestveno.
 

E, to beshe w malko sgysteni kraski : Po-skoro imah predwid drypnato 
bog znae ot kyde :)


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev
George Danchev wrote:

On 24 02 2003 11:31, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:

 

:) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta
nikyde ne e instalirana,
no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, 
   

nedej da piratirash RH ;-) .. Eto naprimer:
Advantages of OpenMosix on IBM xSeries (may be wrapped)
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosix.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMosix1
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart2.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMozix2
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart3.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMosix3
Gentoo, Debian, etc ... (vnimavajte s dumata enterprice ready;-)
Trqbva da se otbelezhi 4e ima nqkolko tipa clusters... IBM i drugi imat i s RH 
estestveno.

Malko izbyrzah :) sorry
Znachi znam za towa, prosto mi beshe interesno tykmu w AS-a kak e 
napraweno :)
Kato nachalna configuracija docs, abe wsichko w kupom dali e napraweno 
da e udobno za plzwane.
Abe liubopitstwo :)


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev


A kakvo ste klatish vkusti sus SAP be pich? Koj maloumnik ste trugne da si 
igrae vkusti sus SAP, OSVEN ako njama klient za nego? Da si vizdal domashni 
SAP clienti?

Che w kyshti moga da si clatia kakwoto si iskam, stiga da mi triawa / da 
mi e interesno

Oste ne sum prochel taja diskusia dokraja i veche ne sum siguren dali iskam da 
go napravja. OK, vsichki sme polzvali warez. OK, bedni sme,no:

Ami to bednostta ne e wazhna, az naprimer si gledah germancite na moreto 
kak si kupuwat piratski CD
i nishto ... ne se i mryshtiha. A i kato se zamislish kolko ot peer-to 
peer mrezhite sa bg ?
Taka che wyobshte ne sym syglasen che fenomena ima nacionalni koreni.

- - VSEKI kojto e hvurlil trud i vreme za da izgradi nesto ima pulnoto pravo da 
iska otplata za nego.

syglasen sym

- - Lipsata na pari da kupish nesto _NE_E_ opravdanie da go otkradnesh, i ako go 
napravish vse pak _AMA_NIKAK_NE_E_OPRAVDANIE_ da trubish - njamam, zatova 
ste krada, ja njakoi ako go ima da mi go dade, a?

i s towa sym syglase

- - Tova _NE_E_ warez list, 

absolutno

zatova iskah moderirane! I pak go iskam.
 

A sreshtu towa sym protiw

Ako niakoj naistina prekali, adminite winagi mogat da mu vkarat e-maila 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Teodor Georgiev


- Original Message -
From: Tsvetin Vasilev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)


 Towa si e flame no da se otbelezha :)
 Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
 Edno e produkt da se polzva ot home user i toi da ne si go plati, shtoto
 produkta e raven
 na godishnata mu zaplata.
 
 
 
 Taka che ako Pesho si ima RH AS @home, goliama e werojatnostta toj, ako
 ne e posleden praznoglawec, da si go poiska i @work
 A e hubawo da go kupi poradi takiwa prichini kato support updates ...etc.
:)
 Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta
 nikyde ne e instalirana,
 no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, tyj da se
 kazhe, interesno mi e, kakwo shte mi dade AS-a ako si go kupia ?

Az pyk iskam da vidia kak rabotiat bankomatite v Bylgaria. Shte otida da
si vzema vkyshti 2-3 za test.
Ako mi haresat - shte si kupia.

Ama otsega da kazha, che shte testvam, testvam, testvam... ama posle
NIAMA DA MI HARESA :PPP

 Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot
 imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte  posocha slednite:

 RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga
 ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no
 chowek se uchi.

da si go testval be. Horata davat 2 meseca bezplaten test.


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread George Danchev
On 24 02 2003 14:18, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:
 George Danchev wrote:
 On 24 02 2003 11:31, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:
 :) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w
 : momenta
 
 nikyde ne e instalirana,
 no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH,
 
 nedej da piratirash RH ;-) .. Eto naprimer:
 Advantages of OpenMosix on IBM xSeries (may be wrapped)
 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosix.html?t=gr,lnxw02=Open
 Mosix1
  http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart2.html?t=gr,lnxw0
 2=OpenMozix2
  http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart3.html?t=gr,lnxw0
 2=OpenMosix3
 
 Gentoo, Debian, etc ... (vnimavajte s dumata enterprice ready;-)
 Trqbva da se otbelezhi 4e ima nqkolko tipa clusters... IBM i drugi imat i
  s RH estestveno.

 Malko izbyrzah :) sorry
 Znachi znam za towa, prosto mi beshe interesno tykmu w AS-a kak e
 napraweno :)
 Kato nachalna configuracija docs, abe wsichko w kupom dali e napraweno
 da e udobno za plzwane.
 Abe liubopitstwo :)

e andzyk de, vsi4ko e w kupom kakto kazvash ... pone za Debian, read 
carefully:http://danchev.fccf.net/files/debian/debian-book/output/html_files/node29.html

P.S. Vasil Kolev i Boyan, eto kak izglezhda built debian-book (star build):
http://danchev.fccf.net/files/debian/debian-book/
-- 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev

- Original Message -
From: Boris Jordanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)


 A kakvo ste klatish vkusti sus SAP be pich? Koj maloumnik ste trugne da si
 igrae vkusti sus SAP, OSVEN ako njama klient za nego? Da si vizdal
domashni
 SAP clienti?

Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ?
Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server...
Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai  che iskam malko da si
poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota ?
Pozdravi,
BIVOL

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Monday 24 February 2003 13:17, Boris Jordanov wrote:
 On Monday 24 February 2003 13:07, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
  Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ?
  Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server...
  Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai  che iskam malko da si
  poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota
  ?

I sled kato govorim za shefa ti - tova domashno polzvane li se vodi?
btw, pitaj SAP, ako ti kazat, che RHAS e poddurzana platforma i te imat 
clienti s production SAP v/u RHAS - svurzi se s tezi clienti i gi pitaj.

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Monday 24 February 2003 13:07, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:

 Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ?
 Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server...
 Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai  che iskam malko da si
 poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota ?

A ot kude imash Windows2000 server? I toj li nazaem?

- -- 
Take care


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev


   Az pyk iskam da vidia kak rabotiat bankomatite v Bylgaria. Shte otida da
si vzema vkyshti 2-3 za test.
   Ako mi haresat - shte si kupia.
   Ama otsega da kazha, che shte testvam, testvam, testvam... ama posle
NIAMA DA MI HARESA :PPP
Ami ne sym kazal che shte mi haresa.
No mozhe i da mi. Ot druga strana, towa ne e oprawdanie, towa e
obiasnenie na fakt.
btw Ako sym banka, kak mislish dali niama da testwam bankomata ???
Znam li ... sigurno na dowerie shte go wzema.
Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot
imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte  posocha slednite:
RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga
ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no
chowek se uchi.
   

   da si go testval be. Horata davat 2 meseca bezplaten test.

 

ne chetesh.. kakto napisah - chowek se uchi. Taka che takwiz izdynki gi 
swezhdam do min

P.S. Mnogo se zadyrzha toz flame.


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev
Ipozlvat se glavno za testovi mashini i training no ima i production
sistemi...
Pozdravi,
BIVOL
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From: Boris Jordanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)


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 On Monday 24 February 2003 13:17, Boris Jordanov wrote:
  On Monday 24 February 2003 13:07, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
   Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ?
   Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server...
   Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai  che iskam malko da si
   poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi
rabota
   ?

 I sled kato govorim za shefa ti - tova domashno polzvane li se vodi?
 btw, pitaj SAP, ako ti kazat, che RHAS e poddurzana platforma i te imat
 clienti s production SAP v/u RHAS - svurzi se s tezi clienti i gi pitaj.

 - --
 Take care


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:
Drugo e kogato produkt prednazhchen za korporativni potrebiteli se polzva
nelegalno.
  

Az ne vijdam razlika i komapniat ste i donese pari tova i na home usera samo
che na home usera pod formata na badesta zaplata...

  

 Ami da taka e  da ne zabrawiame, che towa shte donese pari i na 
 proizwoditelia :)
 Zashtoto kakto mnogo dobre znajat i ot MS wklichitelno, chowek e sklonen 
 da iziskwa poznatoto mu obkryzhenie :)

Mdaa, Po-dobre da piratsvat teb otkolkoto konkuretite ti - Steve Ballmer
Samo che tozi argument hich ne me radva kogato stava duma za svoboden
softuer.

 Taka che ako Pesho si ima RH AS @home, goliama e werojatnostta toj, ako 
 ne e posleden praznoglawec, da si go poiska i @work
 A e hubawo da go kupi poradi takiwa prichini kato support updates ...etc. :)
 Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta 
 nikyde ne e instalirana,
 no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, tyj da se 
 kazhe, interesno mi e, kakwo shte mi dade AS-a ako si go kupia ?
 Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot 
 imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte  posocha slednite:
 RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga 
 ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no
 chowek se uchi.
 Cyrilla - tazi kirilca za w98 si imashe syshto swoite izklichitelni, 
 malki gadosti, koito chestno kazano ama nikak ne mi haresaha i se
 prinudih da napazaruwam i flextype.

http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm

-- 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev
Toi e testvan i raboti - kato potriabva se kupuva zasto zanesh che
raboti
A kak da platish za netso deto ne znaesh kkavo e ?
Pozdravi,
BIVOL
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 On Monday 24 February 2003 13:07, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:

  Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ?
  Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server...
  Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai  che iskam malko da si
  poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota
?

 A ot kude imash Windows2000 server? I toj li nazaem?

 - --
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev


http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm

 

mdam towa shte go probwam, kato se pojawi win ot niakyde:)
no opredeleno izglezhda interesno
mdam
10x kakwo durgo da kazha :))
uspeh
Tsvetin

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread George Danchev
On 24 02 2003 14:26, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
 Toi e testvan i raboti - kato potriabva se kupuva zasto zanesh che
 raboti
 A kak da platish za netso deto ne znaesh kkavo e ?

e dobre de hora, are stiga sega s toq thread, 4ak i do w2k stignahme da se 
zaqzhdame ... stiga tolko sme dokazvali bylgarskata marka v nas ... (samo 
prikazki i prikazki, kogato trqbva da se svyrshi nestorealno se ogyvame i pak 
prikazki i nisto...)... Izlezte ot tazi poro4na rekursiq ... ne stigmahme li 
dynoto ve4e ;-) break;
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Monday 24 February 2003 15:30, George Danchev wrote:
 stigmahme li dynoto ve4e ;-) break;

He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day. ;)

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread svetla
Mdaa, Po-dobre da piratsvat teb otkolkoto konkuretite ti - Steve Ballmer
Samo che tozi argument hich ne me radva kogato stava duma za svoboden
softuer.
dam..i na men ne mi se nravi.. 



Georgi Chorbadzhiyski writes: 

Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:
Drugo e kogato produkt prednazhchen za korporativni potrebiteli se polzva
nelegalno.
  

Az ne vijdam razlika i komapniat ste i donese pari tova i na home usera samo
che na home usera pod formata na badesta zaplata... 

  

Ami da taka e  da ne zabrawiame, che towa shte donese pari i na 
proizwoditelia :)
Zashtoto kakto mnogo dobre znajat i ot MS wklichitelno, chowek e sklonen 
da iziskwa poznatoto mu obkryzhenie :)
Mdaa, Po-dobre da piratsvat teb otkolkoto konkuretite ti - Steve Ballmer
Samo che tozi argument hich ne me radva kogato stava duma za svoboden
softuer. 

Taka che ako Pesho si ima RH AS @home, goliama e werojatnostta toj, ako 
ne e posleden praznoglawec, da si go poiska i @work
A e hubawo da go kupi poradi takiwa prichini kato support updates ...etc. :)
Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta 
nikyde ne e instalirana,
no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, tyj da se 
kazhe, interesno mi e, kakwo shte mi dade AS-a ako si go kupia ?
Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot 
imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte  posocha slednite:
RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga 
ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no
chowek se uchi.
Cyrilla - tazi kirilca za w98 si imashe syshto swoite izklichitelni, 
malki gadosti, koito chestno kazano ama nikak ne mi haresaha i se
prinudih da napazaruwam i flextype.
http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm 

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread svetla
vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama  i free razbirash li...prosto se 
opitvat i  da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti 
pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto 
defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e 
niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova 



Tsvetin Vasilev writes: 


 

http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm 

  

mdam towa shte go probwam, kato se pojawi win ot niakyde:)
no opredeleno izglezhda interesno
mdam
10x kakwo durgo da kazha :))
uspeh
Tsvetin 

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Monday 24 February 2003 17:06, svetla wrote:
 vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama  i free razbirash li...prosto se
 opitvat i  da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti
 pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support,
 koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia
 ...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova

Tova e osvezavasto :)

Viz sega tuk:

http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/features/ - malko marketing
i tuk:
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/technical/ - tuk se zagledaj 
hubavo - kato go napravish for free i da e na enterprise (opitaj da razberesh 
smisula na tazi dumichka) level - ste te pozlatjat.

Imash li ideja kakvo e online support na prilozenie koeto ti e mission 
critical, a help desk-a e v India?  I znaesh li kakva e cenata na edno 
failover naprimer reshenie v situacia - umre zeljazoto? Bezcenno e :)

Guys and gals :) Ne govorim za kartofi. Govorim za visokointelektualni 
produkti. Na koito horata razchitat da turkaljat big money prilozenia. I daj 
boze da pravjat even bigger money za tjah. Nesta koito neizbezno struvat pari 
_i_ si struvat parite. Uvazavajte stojnostta na truda. Za da uvazavat i 
vashia :)

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Az predi vreme si kupih RedHat 8.0 prosto ot jad che ne moga da si kupia 
Notebook
bez Windows XP, t.e mojeh da si kupja s preinstalliran Linux no mi 
struvashe s 450$
po-veche. Ne polzvam nito RedHat8.0 nito Windows XP polzvam  RedHat 7.1
i ne vijdam prichina za promjana, no tova che MS otkradnaha tezi 40-50$ 
ot men
mi dade moralnoto opravdanie da si kazha Kakvoto povikalo takova i se 
obadilo,
t.e. az systo sym kral ot tjah.
A tova dali ste si platish ili ne,  e slojen vypros i az lichno mislja 
che predi da  obidish njakoj
trjabva da se zamislish primerno za Mp3 filovete disk-ove te si ili MS 
softewar-ite koito
polzvash bez pari, tova dali ste otkradnesh ot beden ili ot bogat za men 
si e vse krajba
i mislja che patetichni istorii a-la Andreshko ne sa ot polza za nikogo, 
Bg e dosta dobyr primer
za vredata im.
Otnsono OpenSource predi vreme raboteh po edin OpenGenom
project, vsystnost im napravih pochti tjalata comunicatzia da raboti 
prez HTTP tunneling,
ne go pravih bezkoristno, bjah reshil da se nasochvam kym bioinformatica 
i mi trjabvashe pone
edin project za resume-to,  e svyrshih si rabotata napravihme pyrvia 
release i kakvo stana,
okaza se che tezi koito naj-mnogo prikazvaha sto za veliko chudo e OS, 
se havanaha
za consultant-i v njakoj ot Top 10 Pharma firmite za po 150$/h  i 
zapochnaha da dyrpat projecta na tam nakydeto
tjahnite corporativni iziskvania nalagat. Prosto ne mislja che ima 
bezkorisen OpenSource,
prosto ne ni e v choveshkata priroda, edni go pravjat za da natrupat opit,
drugi go pravjat za da se prodavat kato consultanti posle, treti koito 
sa na vyrha na piramidata
stavat izvestni i stavat partnjori vyv firmi ili im se plasta da 
uchastvat v conferentzii i t.n.
No ako horata njamat litchen interes v Open Sourc-a to to njama da go 
ima, pone za Bg
poznavam njakolko choveka koito go izpolzvaha kato traplin za US i sled 
kato dojdoha tuk-a
veche njamat vreme za OS. Otnosno Takers i Givers ne mislja che znania 
mogat da se poluchat darum, za znanieto
se iziskva derzaene, tezi koito sa razglezeni i naucheni da poluchvat na 
gotovo te ne poluchavat
nito znanie nito opit i rano ili kysno stavat jertva zaradi tova, a i sa 
obrecheni da
jivejat na po-vyrhnosta na profesiata.


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Teodor Georgiev

Predi da obiasniavash kak Redhat manipulirat mediite se nauchi da pishesh.
*U*bezhdavat, a ne *O*bezhdavat.

I da ne razvodniavame temata - problema se definira mnogo kratko:

1. Softuerno piratstvo
2. I to na Linux. Obizhdame horata/organizaciite, koito ni dyrzhat edin vid
na rabota. Kakvo li shte stane ako utre na Alan Cox i drugite im pisne i
kazhat - aide mainata vi, ot utre koito iska kernela, shte si plashta.

Tuk po princip triabva da se sybirat hora, koito da podpomagat Linux. A ne
da kradat ot nego.

- Original Message -
From: svetla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)


 vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama  i free razbirash li...prosto se
 opitvat i  da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti
 pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support,
koeto
 defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova
e
 niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova




 Tsvetin Vasilev writes:

 
 
 
  http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm
 
 
 
  mdam towa shte go probwam, kato se pojawi win ot niakyde:)
  no opredeleno izglezhda interesno
  mdam
  10x kakwo durgo da kazha :))
  uspeh
  Tsvetin
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Qsin
Kazhi kakvo mu e na RAV shtoto skoro ni izticha
abonamenta za tazi godina i trjabva da go podnovjavame?

Yavor Atanasov

- Original Message - 
From: Tsvetin Vasilev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

 Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot 
 imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte  posocha slednite:
 RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga 
 ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread svetla

Predi da obiasniavash kak Redhat manipulirat mediite se nauchi da pishesh.
*U*bezhdavat, a ne *O*bezhdavat.
mnogo si drebnaFFF... 


Predi da obiasniavash kak Redhat manipulirat mediite se nauchi da pishesh.
*U*bezhdavat, a ne *O*bezhdavat. 

I da ne razvodniavame temata - problema se definira mnogo kratko: 

1. Softuerno piratstvo
2. I to na Linux. Obizhdame horata/organizaciite, koito ni dyrzhat edin vid
na rabota. Kakvo li shte stane ako utre na Alan Cox i drugite im pisne i
kazhat - aide mainata vi, ot utre koito iska kernela, shte si plashta. 

Tuk po princip triabva da se sybirat hora, koito da podpomagat Linux. A ne
da kradat ot nego. 

- Original Message -
From: svetla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) 


vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama  i free razbirash li...prosto se
opitvat i  da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti
pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support,
koeto
defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova
e
niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova 



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 http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm



 mdam towa shte go probwam, kato se pojawi win ot niakyde:)
 no opredeleno izglezhda interesno
 mdam
 10x kakwo durgo da kazha :))
 uspeh
 Tsvetin


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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Valentin Tzankov
Svetla, pravoto na mnenie e hubavo nesto,
no kogato obosnovava na fact-i e hubavo te da sa pone istina.
Dokolkoto znam Kernel-a za  S/390 a systo i za Alpha e pochti
iztzjalo razraboten ot RH e vjarno che zatova sa poluchili pari ot IBM i
Compaq,  osven tova imat otdel ot okolo pone 60 choveka kojto se zanimava s
pisaneto na driver-i.
No naj-vajnoto e tche te predostavjat Certification na RH za razlicni
system-i, znam che tova ne ot osobeno zanachenie za BG, no za golemite 
corporatzii,
e neobhodimo uslovie za da kupjat Linux, bez tova Linux nikoga njamashe 
da vleze v
sveta na golemia business.


mai vseki tuk ima pravo na mnenie...



Boris Jordanov writes:

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On Monday 24 February 2003 17:06, svetla wrote:
vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama  i free razbirash 
li...prosto se
opitvat i  da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti
pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support,
koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia
...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova


Tova e osvezavasto :)
Viz sega tuk:
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/features/ - malko 
marketing
i tuk:
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/technical/ - tuk se 
zagledaj hubavo - kato go napravish for free i da e na enterprise 
(opitaj da razberesh smisula na tazi dumichka) level - ste te pozlatjat.
Imash li ideja kakvo e online support na prilozenie koeto ti e 
mission critical, a help desk-a e v India?  I znaesh li kakva e 
cenata na edno failover naprimer reshenie v situacia - umre 
zeljazoto? Bezcenno e :)
Guys and gals :) Ne govorim za kartofi. Govorim za 
visokointelektualni produkti. Na koito horata razchitat da turkaljat 
big money prilozenia. I daj boze da pravjat even bigger money za 
tjah. Nesta koito neizbezno struvat pari _i_ si struvat parite. 
Uvazavajte stojnostta na truda. Za da uvazavat i vashia :)
- -- Take care

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-24 Thread Theodor Milkov
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:37:02PM -0500, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 Svetla, pravoto na mnenie e hubavo nesto,
 no kogato obosnovava na fact-i e hubavo te da sa pone istina.
 Dokolkoto znam Kernel-a za  S/390 a systo i za Alpha e pochti
 iztzjalo razraboten ot RH e vjarno che zatova sa poluchili pari ot IBM i
 Compaq,  osven tova imat otdel ot okolo pone 60 choveka kojto se zanimava s
 pisaneto na driver-i.
 No naj-vajnoto e tche te predostavjat Certification na RH za razlicni
 system-i, znam che tova ne ot osobeno zanachenie za BG, no za golemite 
 corporatzii,
 e neobhodimo uslovie za da kupjat Linux, bez tova Linux nikoga njamashe 
 da vleze v
 sveta na golemia business.

Vav tazi vrazka:

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-984383.html?tag=fd_top

Nakratko:

Ima organizacia chiito site e www.commoncriteria.org, chiito
certificates se vzemat naseriozno ot US .gov. Ako RedHat vzeme takav
certificate, tova shte mu otvori mnogo vrati - i koeto e mnogo
po-vajnoto - shte otvori mnogo vrati pred Linux vaobshte.

Ne che tova e edinstvenoto i nai-vajno neshto na sveta, no sas sigurnost
ima znachenie.

Sas zdrave,

-- 
Theodor MilkovHead Network Administrator
Davidov Net   Phone: +359 (2) 730158

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-23 Thread Yanko Kaneti
On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 09:26, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
  , 2003-02-22  16:29, Teodor Georgiev :
  Redhat sponsorirat developvaneto na Linux prilozhenia. Te poddyrzhat
  finansovo horata, koito pishat GPL softuer.
 RedHat imat 6 kernel-developeri i niakolko dushi pisheshti tehnite si
 prilojenia. Ako se zavurtish po forumite shte vidish che NISHTO KOETO
 REDHAT sa promenili po kernela, gnome, kamo li puk KDE NE E SUBMITNATO
 OBRATNO na suotvetnite proekti !

-  . 

,Alan Cox 
   , Ulrich Drepper  Jakub Jelinek  glibc, Mike Harris
 XFree86, Owen Taylor, Havoc Pennington, Alexander Larsson  Daniel
Veillard   GTK/GNOME/Nautilus/libxml,  Christopher Blizzard 
Mozilla

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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)

2003-02-23 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
Sigurno triabvashe da se doiziasnia: Stava vupros che
kernel-2.4..rpm ili SRPM e razlichno ot kernel-2.4.XXX.tgz, t.e.
tova koeto idva v krainia RedHat distributiv. Za gnome/GTK/Nautilus si
prav, bez da iskam go slojih pod obsht snamenatel. Vse pak RedHat sa
osnovni igrachi v GNOME. No vij shto se otnasia do KDE - e tam sum prav
100 %.

 , 2003-02-23  11:46, Yanko Kaneti :
 On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 09:26, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
 
 
 -  . 
 
 ,Alan Cox 
, Ulrich Drepper  Jakub Jelinek  glibc, Mike Harris
  XFree86, Owen Taylor, Havoc Pennington, Alexander Larsson  Daniel
 Veillard   GTK/GNOME/Nautilus/libxml,  Christopher Blizzard 
 Mozilla
 
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