Re: things that I miss in lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via 
enterfile 'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child files, and 
collects details of any included and other data files. These component files, 
are then all put into a single directory (thus “flattening” the document’s 
directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay. 

Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

If it matters:
I use whichever version of LyX is available from the repository of
whichever Linux system I'm currently using. At the moment that means:
LyX 1.6.5 on Arch Linux 

Note: I'm NOT an LaTeX wizard, nor a professional writer So if I use an
incorrect name for something... Please bear with me.


This is a work in progress that I work on when I can. I have doubts that
it'll ever get published but just in case, I want to keep the output
presentable.

I'm using book (more font sizes) with base size set to 14 so that my eyes
are capable of reading a printed document. I also have roman set to bookman.
Every thing else in document settings are the default values that were
originally set by LyX 1.5.x... But there are some ERT boxes inserted here
and there... 

Now the problem:

If I understand correctly a leftside page normally gets a larger righthand
margin to leave room for binding the pages together. Which is fine with me.
But I have a short section* (about a page and a half with an 8.5 x 11
page size and a base size of 14) that I wanted typeset just a little bit
differently to set it apart from the other text. I don't consider it
verse, and it's certainly not a quote of someone else's words. So I left
the environment set to standard but set the font to typewriter italic. At
this point I should mention that none of the ERT boxes I've inserted are
supposed to change margin settings. However when I view the output with DVI
or PDF, the righthand margin of this short section allows some of the lines
to get within about an quarter of an inch of the right hand edge of the
paper.  And that's on the leftside page, there is a line on the
rightside page that actually bleeds off the paper...

I can compensate for this by redefining the environment as verse
where the rightside pages righthand margin stays about the same as that of
the leftside page.

I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the paper is
approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
quoting anyone...

I've extracted the problematic section into a much smaller document that
includes the preamble, all applicable ERT boxes and a few dummy sections
and chapters to ensure the output formatting of the problem section
remains the same, etc... I will attempt to attach the resulting .lyx file
to this message. So someone smarter than me could maybe tell me what I'm
doing wrong. But I can't remember if attachments make it to this list via
gmane's usenet mirror. We shall see...;-7

-- 
|  ~^~   ~^~
|  ?   ?   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|  ^J(tWdy)P
|\___/ jtw...@ttlc.net#LyX 1.6.5 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 345
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass extbook
\use_default_options false
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman bookman
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100

\graphics default
\paperfontsize 14
\spacing single
\use_hyperref false
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 0
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 2
\tocdepth 2
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 2
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author  
\author  
\end_header

\begin_body

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status open

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
frontmatter
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Title
Unspecified
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status open

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
setcounter{page}{0}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Newpage newpage
\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Author
\begin_inset space ~
\end_inset


\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset


\begin_inset VSpace vfill
\end_inset

By Joseph Philbrook
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2007 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2008 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2009 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2010 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

The author claims all copy rights to the original content below.
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

This is a work in progress...
 
\end_layout

\begin_layout Part*

Re: Using pdfsync with LyX

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Ami wrote:
 I configured LyX to use Sumatra, but now- what should I do to make the sync
 work? The wiki page discusses ``reverse search, while I'm interested in
 the opposite direction (line in LyX - line [or page] in pdf when viewing
 it).

As I wrote in another post: this is not possible. LyX currently only supports 
reverse search, not forward search.

Jürgen

Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Richard Brown]

Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
which states

' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

The file it should find, but obviously doesn't, is
/./home/richard/Desktop/book2/form
but with the backslash changed for all those underscores I'm not surprised
the package can't find it. And what gives with the number 10?

Anyone any idea what's going on?

TIA
Richard

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
enterfile  'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child files, and
collects details of any included and other data files. These component files,
are then all put into a single directory (thus “flattening” the document’s
directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay.

   
This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter 
chain.


rh

Re: Offer... for technical writing

[rgheck]

On 04/02/2010 07:54 PM, Frederick Noronha wrote:

Dear all: I am a journalist and writer, and a heavy user of Lyx.
Please let me know if you need any help (volunteering, without fee) to
help write or edit Lyx help files for users. I am not a techie, but
understand the software ... with guidance I could do it. My English
skills are near-native speaker level. FN

   
Thanks for the offer. My first suggestion would be to describe to the 
LyX documentation list. It's low volume, but issues relating to the docs 
tend to get discussed there.


Generally, though, the documentation is written by whoever has the 
initiative to do it. So if there's something you think isn't clear, 
could be better explained, or just isn't included, then try to do better 
and post your changes to the docs list. The maintainer of the relevant 
manual will then discuss them with you. For the tutorial, user's guide, 
and math manual, that's Uwe Stohr; for the customization and additional 
features manuals (I think), that's me. Others don't have a dedicated 
maintainer.


Hint: Use change tracking when you make these sorts of changes, so it's 
easy for us to identify them.


Richard

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Seems to be a quirk of LaTeX specific to typewriter font.  Since 
typewriter font is intended to have fixed spacing, LaTeX can't justify 
things evenly.  There's a fix at 
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.text.tex/2005-09/msg4.html 
that works on your document if you don't mind variable spacing between 
words. Another possibility is to make that section of text left 
justified (ragged right) rather than fully justified. Under other 
circumstance a third option would be to use the hyphenat package to 
allow hyphenation of typewriter text. Unfortunately, that would require 
a change to your prose style -- you're not using long enough words in 
that section. :-)  (I tested this -- hyphenation did not cure the problem.)


/Paul

Re: Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 7:03 AM, Richard Brown wrote:

Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
which states

' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

The file it should find, but obviously doesn't, is
/./home/richard/Desktop/book2/form
but with the backslash changed for all those underscores I'm not surprised
the package can't find it. And what gives with the number 10?

Anyone any idea what's going on?



When LyX compiles a document, it creates a temporary directory 
(typically under /tmp on a Linux system), exports the necessary LaTeX 
file there, copies ancillary files (such as images) there, does any 
necessary format conversions of images there, then runs latex (or 
pdflatex, or whatever), bibtex (if needed) etc. in that temp directory. 
 Files copied from other directories have their names mangled to 
indicate the source path, with path separators changed to underscores. 
In mangling the file name, LyX prepends a number (not sure why; might be 
to avoid naming clashes).


So the mangled file name is in fact correct behavior. The question is 
why it's not found. If you repeat the process and open the LyX temp 
buffer (Tools  Preferences  Paths  Temporary directory will point you 
to the parent directory of the temporary buffer) in a file manager, you 
should find a copy of your PDF file there with the corresponding name. 
If not, then apparently LyX was unable to copy it there for some reason.


Did you use Insert  File  External material, with the PDFPages 
template selected, to insert the file?  Also, did you specify the path 
with that /. at the beginning (rather than /home/...)?


/Paul

Re: Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Richard Brown wrote:
 Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
 9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
 which states
 
 ' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
 10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

Which version of LyX exactly? LyX 1.6.5 included the following bug fix:

- When using the PDF-Pages external inset, copy the included PDF file to
  the temporary directory, where LaTeX searches it (bug 6345).

Jürgen

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/1/2010 11:32 AM, Carlos Ramirez wrote:

Does anyone know how to center and un-bold the References title using
bibtext ?


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


also how to avoid the blank page after the references is
inserted ?


I don't think this is a general phenomenon.  It probably is a function 
either of the document class you are using or something specific in your 
file.  If I write a short test file using the article class, insert a 
BibTeX bibliography, and add some text after the bibliography, the extra 
text occurs on the same page as the bibliography (with a little extra 
vertical space separating them.


/Paul

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Saturday 03 April 2010 15:13:22 schrieb rgheck:
 On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  Just wondering:
 
  Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
  enterfile  'external material' ?
 
  Wolfgang
 
  From
  http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html
 
  Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.
 
  The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child
  files, and collects details of any included and other data files. These
  component files, are then all put into a single directory (thus
  “flattening” the document’s directory tree).
 
  The author is Cengiz Gunay.

 This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter
 chain.

 rh

and how could I do it?

Wolfgang

-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325

Re: References style

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/1/2010 11:32 AM, Carlos Ramirez wrote:

Does anyone know how to center and un-bold the References title using
bibtext ?


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.


also how to avoid the blank page after the references is inserted ?

I don't think this is a general phenomenon.  It probably is a function 
either of the document class you are using or something specific in 
your file.  If I write a short test file using the article class, 
insert a BibTeX bibliography, and add some text after the 
bibliography, the extra text occurs on the same page as the 
bibliography (with a little extra vertical space separating them.


In some classes, chapters always start on an odd page, and the 
references are formatted in such classes as an unnumbered chapter usually.


rh

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the standard 
heading format at that point.


/Paul

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 11:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Saturday 03 April 2010 15:13:22 schrieb rgheck:
   

On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
enterfile   'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child
files, and collects details of any included and other data files. These
component files, are then all put into a single directory (thus
“flattening” the document’s directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay.
   

This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter
chain.

 

and how could I do it?

   
Define a new format, ltxpak, and then declare texdirflatten as a 
latex--ltxpak converter. With appropriate arguments, of course. This 
all gets done under ToolsPreferencesFile Handling.


There is a complication, namely, that everything is going to happen here 
in LyX's temporary directory. So what I think will happen is that 
texdirflatten will create its directory at e.g.

/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.X0765/lyx_tmpbuf0/flat/
and now the question is: How do we export this? i.e., copy it to the 
original file location? Answer: We define a copier, and tell it to 
copy this directory to the original document directory. Have a look at 
the ext_copy.py copier that is used with the LaTeX--HTML converters. 
You may be able to use that, or at least to adapt it to your purposes.


Copiers, etc, are all discussed in the Customization manual.

rh

Re: References style

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 11:23 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the 
standard heading format at that point.



Hmm. Perhaps this is done at the beginning of the document.

rh

Re: Offer... for technical writing

[Harun Özkan]

In my humble opinion, this offer of Mr Noronha should be appreciated. A 
touch of an artist from a non-programming area would be a very valuable 
addition to LyX project.



- Original Message - 
From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:54 AM
Subject: Offer... for technical writing



Dear all: I am a journalist and writer, and a heavy user of Lyx.
Please let me know if you need any help (volunteering, without fee) to
help write or edit Lyx help files for users. I am not a techie, but
understand the software ... with guidance I could do it. My English
skills are near-native speaker level. FN
--
Frederick Noronha
Books from Goa ::  http://goa1556.goa-india.org 

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

 I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
 quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
 leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
 because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the paper is
 approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
 And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
 quoting anyone...

I'd like to frame the preceding paragraph and send it to everyone I know. In a 
world where most people jam in codes everywhere, you actually try to make your 
styles represent the intent of the writing.

There's an easy answer to your problem, and I'll tell it to you in another 
email.

StevET
 
Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
 
 I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
 quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
 leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
 because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the paper is
 approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
 And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
 quoting anyone...

Hi Joe,

What you want is the MEANING of Joe's special paragraph but a LOOK similar 
to the standard quotation environment. So do something like this in a layout 
file:

=
Preamble
\newenvironment{joesspecialparagraphL}
{
\begin{quotation}
% Add any tweaks you want here
}{
% Add any ending tweaks you want here
\end{quotation}
}
EndPreamble


Style JoesSpecialParagraph
  CopyStyle Quotation
  LatexType Environment
  LatexName joesspecialparagraphL
End
=

The part where I discuss tweaks is where you modify the look of the quotation 
environment to match your desired look. So you'd put margin changes, font 
changes, and any decorations (boxes, shaded boxes or whatever) in the tweak 
areas.

I highly recommend you separate the LaTeX code (the stuff between the Preamble 
and EndPreamble from the LyX code (the stuff between Style and End). LyX 
allows you to stick a Preamble/EndPreamble pair right in the LyX style, and a 
lot of people recommend that, but under certain arcane conditions reusable 
code can break in a non-obvious way when you do that. I always put my LaTeX in 
the upper part of my layout file and the LyX code in the lower part so I don't 
have these problems.

As far as how to make a layout file, I have a bunch of documentation on the 
subject here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 11:32 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 11:23 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the 
standard heading format at that point.



Hmm. Perhaps this is done at the beginning of the document.

rh


Babel loads after the preamble, so if it redefines \refname, that would 
be the culprit.


/Paul

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

It would appear that on Apr 3, Paul A. Rubin did say:

 Seems to be a quirk of LaTeX specific to typewriter font.  Since typewriter
 font is intended to have fixed spacing, LaTeX can't justify things evenly.
 There's a fix at
 http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.text.tex/2005-09/msg4.html
 that works on your document if you don't mind variable spacing between words.
 Another possibility is to make that section of text left justified (ragged
 right) rather than fully justified. Under other circumstance a third option
 would be to use the hyphenat package to allow hyphenation of typewriter text.
 Unfortunately, that would require a change to your prose style -- you're not
 using long enough words in that section. :-)  (I tested this -- hyphenation
 did not cure the problem.)
 
Thank you for the link, and the suggestion on left justification. I'll
have to experiment...

However what I don't understand why, whether LaTeX can properly
justify typewriter font or not, surely such a powerful typesetting
system could detect that the line was going to exceed the intended
margin, and at least adjust word wrap to move the offending word
down to the next line. (of course then the next line would have to be
readjusted, then the next ad infinum...) It would still fail true
justification, but at least the text would remain inside the margins.

And if there is a reason I don't understand, why, LaTeX can't do this,
Then perhaps LyX itself {could/should?} in the spirit of letting it's
users focus on content, detect the known problem and make the
evidently complex coding adjustments necessary to alter the right
margin {I gather with LaTeX this is controlled by line length settings,
which I don't think a LyX user should need to know how to override in
such a way that the override only affects the typewriter font
paragraph(s)} 

However both the preceding paragraphs project my idealistic concept of
what LyX/LaTeX should do to keep it's user base concentrating on
content, rather than any belief that either idea will ever come into
play. So I'm curious, would there maybe be something I could put in an
ert box that saves the current line length settings some place that I
could restore them from after I then used some more LyX code to simply
reduce the line length of the affected portion(s) of a document?

One other thought, even if LyX can't be expected to 'automatically'
compensate for this LaTeX quirk is it feasible that a line length
element could someday be added to LyX's paragraph settings???

It would appear that on Apr 3, Steve Litt did say:

 
 On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
 
  I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
  quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
  leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
  because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the paper is
  approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
  And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
  quoting anyone...
 
 I'd like to frame the preceding paragraph and send it to everyone I know. In 
 a 
 world where most people jam in codes everywhere, you actually try to make 
 your 
 styles represent the intent of the writing.

Well it's not that I'm against inserting codes whenever I need a down
and dirty fix for something. But rather it's a combination of not
having taken a course in typesetting with LaTeX, having difficulty
remembering the things I have learned (I blame that on CRS), and last
but certainly not least, the fact that I'm sold on the idea of letting
my document processor (LyX) free me from micro-managing the details
of my document(s) appearance so that I can concentrate on the content.
That last point was why I chose to try to learn to use LyX about 6
years ago, even though I already realized that for me the learning curve
would be painfully slow. But if you think it would help encourage
style based solutions, please feel free to copy, modify, and publish
any or all of my post with the sole exception of the copyrighted text
embedded in the example attachment.

 - - - - - - - - - snip/glue/snip - - - - - - - - - -

 What you want is the MEANING of Joe's special paragraph but a LOOK similar 
 to the standard quotation environment. So do something like this in a layout 
 file:
 
 =
 Preamble
 \newenvironment{joesspecialparagraphL}
 {
 \begin{quotation}
 % Add any tweaks you want here
 }{
 % Add any ending tweaks you want here
 \end{quotation}
 }
 EndPreamble
 
 
 Style JoesSpecialParagraph
   CopyStyle   Quotation
   LatexType Environment
   LatexName joesspecialparagraphL
 End
 =
 
 The part where I discuss tweaks is where you modify the look of the quotation 
 environment to match your desired look. So you'd put 

RE: Footnote location

[Ingar Pareliussen]

If I understand your request correctly you want the footnotes always to appear 
on
bottom of the page? This is what usually should happen, if you do not
use \raggedbottom or similar (irrc).

Try to use the footmisc package. It is probably in your latex-installation, 
if not install it from ctan. 
(http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc)

Write something like this is Documents-Settings--LaTeX Preamble

\usepackage[bottom]{footmisc}

To learn more about the footmisc (it has a lot of options):
http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc/footmisc.pdf

If this don't work we would need a small lyx file demonstrating the problem.

And please do not top post. It makes it less likely for some of us older 
folks to reply ;-).  (and it is much easier to follow a thread in 
mail-archive when inline quoting is used, just try it :))

hth,
Ingar Pareliussen

Re: Footnote location

[Sandro Portmann]

Hi guys,

Thank you all for helping me. I've found the bug and fixed it. It was just, 
that I've not properly done the format BEFORE writing the whole text, but 
afterwards. So it crashed my opinions and it happened what I've explained here. 

Sorry for asking such silly questions, like it looks now afterwards. But the 
first thing I've asked, how to manage the gap between the text and the footnote 
was really helpful. Thank you all for the support!

SP

Am 03.04.2010 um 23:35 schrieb Ingar Pareliussen:

 If I understand your request correctly you want the footnotes always to 
 appear on
 bottom of the page? This is what usually should happen, if you do not
 use \raggedbottom or similar (irrc).
 
 Try to use the footmisc package. It is probably in your latex-installation, 
 if not install it from ctan. 
 (http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc)
 
 Write something like this is Documents-Settings--LaTeX Preamble
 
 \usepackage[bottom]{footmisc}
 
 To learn more about the footmisc (it has a lot of options):
 http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc/footmisc.pdf
 
 If this don't work we would need a small lyx file demonstrating the problem.
 
 And please do not top post. It makes it less likely for some of us older 
 folks to reply ;-).  (and it is much easier to follow a thread in 
 mail-archive when inline quoting is used, just try it :))
 
 hth,
 Ingar Pareliussen

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Paul Rubin]

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook jtw...@... writes:


 However what I don't understand why, whether LaTeX can properly
 justify typewriter font or not, surely such a powerful typesetting
 system could detect that the line was going to exceed the intended
 margin, and at least adjust word wrap to move the offending word
 down to the next line. (of course then the next line would have to be
 readjusted, then the next ad infinum...) It would still fail true
 justification, but at least the text would remain inside the margins.

LaTeX has internal algorithms to measure the badness of a block of text,
and it makes spacing and line-wrapping decisions to minimize badness given
some constraints. Violating a margin is allowed with some penalties; putting
large amounts of space between words is allowed with some penalties. Under
most circumstance, hyphenation is allowed with some penalties. In your
case, there were apparently places where violating the margin was cheaper.

I suspect that a TeXpert could find and adjust the weights assigned to
various forms of typographical malfeasance such that you'd be very unlikely
to get a margin violation. (That's beyond my level of expertise.) I also 
suspect that if you did that, it would end up either looking like a ragged
right paragraph (if you used small violations for short lines and somewhat
large violations for chasms between words) or the first solution I mentioned
(ERT to adjust inter-word spacing) if you continued to enforce justification
and allowed funky inter-word spacing. Your comment about moving the offending
word is essentially the latter case.

 
 And if there is a reason I don't understand, why, LaTeX can't do this,

I suspect the authors did not want to make the decision above (which remedy
to adopt) for you.

 Then perhaps LyX itself {could/should?} in the spirit of letting it's
 users focus on content, detect the known problem and make the
 evidently complex coding adjustments necessary to alter the right
 margin {I gather with LaTeX this is controlled by line length settings,
 which I don't think a LyX user should need to know how to override in
 such a way that the override only affects the typewriter font
 paragraph(s)} 

The ERT fix is not complex, just a bit obscure. I suspect one could create
a module to implement it as a LaTeX environment, although I'm not positive.
It's possible the user would need to futz with the values used in the spacing
adjustment (meaning that larger tolerances might be needed in some situations,
and smaller tolerances might produce nicer looking output in others).

/Paul

Error using -pdfpages- package with ERT and relative paths

[Venable]

Dear LyX users,

I am having some trouble using the -pdfpages- package to insert some
external PDFs into my LyX document.

Everything works fine when I use the Insert - File - External Material
menu option. However, for transparency and ease of reading, I would
prefer to use ERT and the -includepdf- command.

I am able to use the \includepdf command writing directly in LaTeX as
long as I specify the absolute path of the pdf to be included, e.g.
\includepdf{c:/research/dummy.pdf}
or
\includepdf{c:/research/dummy}
(whether the pdf extension is specified does not seem to matter)

For collaboration and for cross-project re-use, it would be very
useful if it were not necessary to specify the absolute path, but use
relative paths instead. For example, if the LyX document were in the
c:/research/ folder, it would be preferable to use just
\includepdf{dummy}

However, this does not seem to be possible.(1) As an example, I
imported the example tex file provided in the pdfpages documentation
(2) into LyX and attempted to export to PDF.

With File - Export - pdflatex, no pdf is created. When I click View
PDF, I get the following error message:

File does not exist:
C:/Users/MyName/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tempdir.Hp5404/lyx_tmpbuf1/pdf-ex.pdf

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix this?

Many thanks in advance.

PS

(1) This is a bit surprising, given that this (includepdf with only a
relative path) is what is created in LaTeX using the Include External
Document menu option and exporting to Plain TeX.

(2) Available at http://www-hep2.fzu.cz/tex/texmf-dist/doc/latex/pdfpages/

In fact, this is what is created using the Include External Document
menu option and exported to Plain TeX.

Re: Error using pdfpages package with ERT and relative paths

[Venable]

Venable venabl...@... writes:

 


Apologies for the near-repeat of the previous post. I googled the heck of this
problem and it seems yesterday's posts had not been captured yet.

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via 
enterfile 'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child files, and 
collects details of any included and other data files. These component files, 
are then all put into a single directory (thus “flattening” the document’s 
directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay. 

Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

If it matters:
I use whichever version of LyX is available from the repository of
whichever Linux system I'm currently using. At the moment that means:
LyX 1.6.5 on Arch Linux 

Note: I'm NOT an LaTeX wizard, nor a professional writer So if I use an
incorrect name for something... Please bear with me.


This is a work in progress that I work on when I can. I have doubts that
it'll ever get published but just in case, I want to keep the output
presentable.

I'm using book (more font sizes) with base size set to 14 so that my eyes
are capable of reading a printed document. I also have roman set to bookman.
Every thing else in document settings are the default values that were
originally set by LyX 1.5.x... But there are some ERT boxes inserted here
and there... 

Now the problem:

If I understand correctly a leftside page normally gets a larger righthand
margin to leave room for binding the pages together. Which is fine with me.
But I have a short section* (about a page and a half with an 8.5 x 11
page size and a base size of 14) that I wanted typeset just a little bit
differently to set it apart from the other text. I don't consider it
verse, and it's certainly not a quote of someone else's words. So I left
the environment set to standard but set the font to typewriter italic. At
this point I should mention that none of the ERT boxes I've inserted are
supposed to change margin settings. However when I view the output with DVI
or PDF, the righthand margin of this short section allows some of the lines
to get within about an quarter of an inch of the right hand edge of the
paper.  And that's on the leftside page, there is a line on the
rightside page that actually bleeds off the paper...

I can compensate for this by redefining the environment as verse
where the rightside pages righthand margin stays about the same as that of
the leftside page.

I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the paper is
approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
quoting anyone...

I've extracted the problematic section into a much smaller document that
includes the preamble, all applicable ERT boxes and a few dummy sections
and chapters to ensure the output formatting of the problem section
remains the same, etc... I will attempt to attach the resulting .lyx file
to this message. So someone smarter than me could maybe tell me what I'm
doing wrong. But I can't remember if attachments make it to this list via
gmane's usenet mirror. We shall see...;-7

-- 
|  ~^~   ~^~
|  ?   ?   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|  ^J(tWdy)P
|\___/ jtw...@ttlc.net#LyX 1.6.5 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 345
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass extbook
\use_default_options false
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman bookman
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100

\graphics default
\paperfontsize 14
\spacing single
\use_hyperref false
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 0
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 2
\tocdepth 2
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 2
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author  
\author  
\end_header

\begin_body

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status open

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
frontmatter
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Title
Unspecified
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status open

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
setcounter{page}{0}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Newpage newpage
\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Author
\begin_inset space ~
\end_inset


\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset


\begin_inset VSpace vfill
\end_inset

By Joseph Philbrook
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2007 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2008 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2009 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2010 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

The author claims all copy rights to the original content below.
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

This is a work in progress...
 
\end_layout

\begin_layout Part*

Re: Using pdfsync with LyX

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Ami wrote:
 I configured LyX to use Sumatra, but now- what should I do to make the sync
 work? The wiki page discusses ``reverse search, while I'm interested in
 the opposite direction (line in LyX - line [or page] in pdf when viewing
 it).

As I wrote in another post: this is not possible. LyX currently only supports 
reverse search, not forward search.

Jürgen

Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Richard Brown]

Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
which states

' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

The file it should find, but obviously doesn't, is
/./home/richard/Desktop/book2/form
but with the backslash changed for all those underscores I'm not surprised
the package can't find it. And what gives with the number 10?

Anyone any idea what's going on?

TIA
Richard

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
enterfile  'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child files, and
collects details of any included and other data files. These component files,
are then all put into a single directory (thus “flattening” the document’s
directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay.

   
This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter 
chain.


rh

Re: Offer... for technical writing

[rgheck]

On 04/02/2010 07:54 PM, Frederick Noronha wrote:

Dear all: I am a journalist and writer, and a heavy user of Lyx.
Please let me know if you need any help (volunteering, without fee) to
help write or edit Lyx help files for users. I am not a techie, but
understand the software ... with guidance I could do it. My English
skills are near-native speaker level. FN

   
Thanks for the offer. My first suggestion would be to describe to the 
LyX documentation list. It's low volume, but issues relating to the docs 
tend to get discussed there.


Generally, though, the documentation is written by whoever has the 
initiative to do it. So if there's something you think isn't clear, 
could be better explained, or just isn't included, then try to do better 
and post your changes to the docs list. The maintainer of the relevant 
manual will then discuss them with you. For the tutorial, user's guide, 
and math manual, that's Uwe Stohr; for the customization and additional 
features manuals (I think), that's me. Others don't have a dedicated 
maintainer.


Hint: Use change tracking when you make these sorts of changes, so it's 
easy for us to identify them.


Richard

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Seems to be a quirk of LaTeX specific to typewriter font.  Since 
typewriter font is intended to have fixed spacing, LaTeX can't justify 
things evenly.  There's a fix at 
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.text.tex/2005-09/msg4.html 
that works on your document if you don't mind variable spacing between 
words. Another possibility is to make that section of text left 
justified (ragged right) rather than fully justified. Under other 
circumstance a third option would be to use the hyphenat package to 
allow hyphenation of typewriter text. Unfortunately, that would require 
a change to your prose style -- you're not using long enough words in 
that section. :-)  (I tested this -- hyphenation did not cure the problem.)


/Paul

Re: Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 7:03 AM, Richard Brown wrote:

Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
which states

' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

The file it should find, but obviously doesn't, is
/./home/richard/Desktop/book2/form
but with the backslash changed for all those underscores I'm not surprised
the package can't find it. And what gives with the number 10?

Anyone any idea what's going on?



When LyX compiles a document, it creates a temporary directory 
(typically under /tmp on a Linux system), exports the necessary LaTeX 
file there, copies ancillary files (such as images) there, does any 
necessary format conversions of images there, then runs latex (or 
pdflatex, or whatever), bibtex (if needed) etc. in that temp directory. 
 Files copied from other directories have their names mangled to 
indicate the source path, with path separators changed to underscores. 
In mangling the file name, LyX prepends a number (not sure why; might be 
to avoid naming clashes).


So the mangled file name is in fact correct behavior. The question is 
why it's not found. If you repeat the process and open the LyX temp 
buffer (Tools  Preferences  Paths  Temporary directory will point you 
to the parent directory of the temporary buffer) in a file manager, you 
should find a copy of your PDF file there with the corresponding name. 
If not, then apparently LyX was unable to copy it there for some reason.


Did you use Insert  File  External material, with the PDFPages 
template selected, to insert the file?  Also, did you specify the path 
with that /. at the beginning (rather than /home/...)?


/Paul

Re: Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Richard Brown wrote:
 Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
 9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
 which states
 
 ' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
 10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

Which version of LyX exactly? LyX 1.6.5 included the following bug fix:

- When using the PDF-Pages external inset, copy the included PDF file to
  the temporary directory, where LaTeX searches it (bug 6345).

Jürgen

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/1/2010 11:32 AM, Carlos Ramirez wrote:

Does anyone know how to center and un-bold the References title using
bibtext ?


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


also how to avoid the blank page after the references is
inserted ?


I don't think this is a general phenomenon.  It probably is a function 
either of the document class you are using or something specific in your 
file.  If I write a short test file using the article class, insert a 
BibTeX bibliography, and add some text after the bibliography, the extra 
text occurs on the same page as the bibliography (with a little extra 
vertical space separating them.


/Paul

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Saturday 03 April 2010 15:13:22 schrieb rgheck:
 On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  Just wondering:
 
  Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
  enterfile  'external material' ?
 
  Wolfgang
 
  From
  http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html
 
  Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.
 
  The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child
  files, and collects details of any included and other data files. These
  component files, are then all put into a single directory (thus
  “flattening” the document’s directory tree).
 
  The author is Cengiz Gunay.

 This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter
 chain.

 rh

and how could I do it?

Wolfgang

-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325

Re: References style

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/1/2010 11:32 AM, Carlos Ramirez wrote:

Does anyone know how to center and un-bold the References title using
bibtext ?


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.


also how to avoid the blank page after the references is inserted ?

I don't think this is a general phenomenon.  It probably is a function 
either of the document class you are using or something specific in 
your file.  If I write a short test file using the article class, 
insert a BibTeX bibliography, and add some text after the 
bibliography, the extra text occurs on the same page as the 
bibliography (with a little extra vertical space separating them.


In some classes, chapters always start on an odd page, and the 
references are formatted in such classes as an unnumbered chapter usually.


rh

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the standard 
heading format at that point.


/Paul

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 11:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Saturday 03 April 2010 15:13:22 schrieb rgheck:
   

On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
enterfile   'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child
files, and collects details of any included and other data files. These
component files, are then all put into a single directory (thus
“flattening” the document’s directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay.
   

This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter
chain.

 

and how could I do it?

   
Define a new format, ltxpak, and then declare texdirflatten as a 
latex--ltxpak converter. With appropriate arguments, of course. This 
all gets done under ToolsPreferencesFile Handling.


There is a complication, namely, that everything is going to happen here 
in LyX's temporary directory. So what I think will happen is that 
texdirflatten will create its directory at e.g.

/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.X0765/lyx_tmpbuf0/flat/
and now the question is: How do we export this? i.e., copy it to the 
original file location? Answer: We define a copier, and tell it to 
copy this directory to the original document directory. Have a look at 
the ext_copy.py copier that is used with the LaTeX--HTML converters. 
You may be able to use that, or at least to adapt it to your purposes.


Copiers, etc, are all discussed in the Customization manual.

rh

Re: References style

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 11:23 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the 
standard heading format at that point.



Hmm. Perhaps this is done at the beginning of the document.

rh

Re: Offer... for technical writing

[Harun Özkan]

In my humble opinion, this offer of Mr Noronha should be appreciated. A 
touch of an artist from a non-programming area would be a very valuable 
addition to LyX project.



- Original Message - 
From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:54 AM
Subject: Offer... for technical writing



Dear all: I am a journalist and writer, and a heavy user of Lyx.
Please let me know if you need any help (volunteering, without fee) to
help write or edit Lyx help files for users. I am not a techie, but
understand the software ... with guidance I could do it. My English
skills are near-native speaker level. FN
--
Frederick Noronha
Books from Goa ::  http://goa1556.goa-india.org 

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

 I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
 quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
 leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
 because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the paper is
 approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
 And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
 quoting anyone...

I'd like to frame the preceding paragraph and send it to everyone I know. In a 
world where most people jam in codes everywhere, you actually try to make your 
styles represent the intent of the writing.

There's an easy answer to your problem, and I'll tell it to you in another 
email.

StevET
 
Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
 
 I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
 quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
 leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
 because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the paper is
 approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
 And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
 quoting anyone...

Hi Joe,

What you want is the MEANING of Joe's special paragraph but a LOOK similar 
to the standard quotation environment. So do something like this in a layout 
file:

=
Preamble
\newenvironment{joesspecialparagraphL}
{
\begin{quotation}
% Add any tweaks you want here
}{
% Add any ending tweaks you want here
\end{quotation}
}
EndPreamble


Style JoesSpecialParagraph
  CopyStyle Quotation
  LatexType Environment
  LatexName joesspecialparagraphL
End
=

The part where I discuss tweaks is where you modify the look of the quotation 
environment to match your desired look. So you'd put margin changes, font 
changes, and any decorations (boxes, shaded boxes or whatever) in the tweak 
areas.

I highly recommend you separate the LaTeX code (the stuff between the Preamble 
and EndPreamble from the LyX code (the stuff between Style and End). LyX 
allows you to stick a Preamble/EndPreamble pair right in the LyX style, and a 
lot of people recommend that, but under certain arcane conditions reusable 
code can break in a non-obvious way when you do that. I always put my LaTeX in 
the upper part of my layout file and the LyX code in the lower part so I don't 
have these problems.

As far as how to make a layout file, I have a bunch of documentation on the 
subject here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 11:32 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 11:23 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the 
standard heading format at that point.



Hmm. Perhaps this is done at the beginning of the document.

rh


Babel loads after the preamble, so if it redefines \refname, that would 
be the culprit.


/Paul

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

It would appear that on Apr 3, Paul A. Rubin did say:

 Seems to be a quirk of LaTeX specific to typewriter font.  Since typewriter
 font is intended to have fixed spacing, LaTeX can't justify things evenly.
 There's a fix at
 http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.text.tex/2005-09/msg4.html
 that works on your document if you don't mind variable spacing between words.
 Another possibility is to make that section of text left justified (ragged
 right) rather than fully justified. Under other circumstance a third option
 would be to use the hyphenat package to allow hyphenation of typewriter text.
 Unfortunately, that would require a change to your prose style -- you're not
 using long enough words in that section. :-)  (I tested this -- hyphenation
 did not cure the problem.)
 
Thank you for the link, and the suggestion on left justification. I'll
have to experiment...

However what I don't understand why, whether LaTeX can properly
justify typewriter font or not, surely such a powerful typesetting
system could detect that the line was going to exceed the intended
margin, and at least adjust word wrap to move the offending word
down to the next line. (of course then the next line would have to be
readjusted, then the next ad infinum...) It would still fail true
justification, but at least the text would remain inside the margins.

And if there is a reason I don't understand, why, LaTeX can't do this,
Then perhaps LyX itself {could/should?} in the spirit of letting it's
users focus on content, detect the known problem and make the
evidently complex coding adjustments necessary to alter the right
margin {I gather with LaTeX this is controlled by line length settings,
which I don't think a LyX user should need to know how to override in
such a way that the override only affects the typewriter font
paragraph(s)} 

However both the preceding paragraphs project my idealistic concept of
what LyX/LaTeX should do to keep it's user base concentrating on
content, rather than any belief that either idea will ever come into
play. So I'm curious, would there maybe be something I could put in an
ert box that saves the current line length settings some place that I
could restore them from after I then used some more LyX code to simply
reduce the line length of the affected portion(s) of a document?

One other thought, even if LyX can't be expected to 'automatically'
compensate for this LaTeX quirk is it feasible that a line length
element could someday be added to LyX's paragraph settings???

It would appear that on Apr 3, Steve Litt did say:

 
 On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
 
  I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
  quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
  leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
  because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the paper is
  approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
  And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
  quoting anyone...
 
 I'd like to frame the preceding paragraph and send it to everyone I know. In 
 a 
 world where most people jam in codes everywhere, you actually try to make 
 your 
 styles represent the intent of the writing.

Well it's not that I'm against inserting codes whenever I need a down
and dirty fix for something. But rather it's a combination of not
having taken a course in typesetting with LaTeX, having difficulty
remembering the things I have learned (I blame that on CRS), and last
but certainly not least, the fact that I'm sold on the idea of letting
my document processor (LyX) free me from micro-managing the details
of my document(s) appearance so that I can concentrate on the content.
That last point was why I chose to try to learn to use LyX about 6
years ago, even though I already realized that for me the learning curve
would be painfully slow. But if you think it would help encourage
style based solutions, please feel free to copy, modify, and publish
any or all of my post with the sole exception of the copyrighted text
embedded in the example attachment.

 - - - - - - - - - snip/glue/snip - - - - - - - - - -

 What you want is the MEANING of Joe's special paragraph but a LOOK similar 
 to the standard quotation environment. So do something like this in a layout 
 file:
 
 =
 Preamble
 \newenvironment{joesspecialparagraphL}
 {
 \begin{quotation}
 % Add any tweaks you want here
 }{
 % Add any ending tweaks you want here
 \end{quotation}
 }
 EndPreamble
 
 
 Style JoesSpecialParagraph
   CopyStyle   Quotation
   LatexType Environment
   LatexName joesspecialparagraphL
 End
 =
 
 The part where I discuss tweaks is where you modify the look of the quotation 
 environment to match your desired look. So you'd put 

RE: Footnote location

[Ingar Pareliussen]

If I understand your request correctly you want the footnotes always to appear 
on
bottom of the page? This is what usually should happen, if you do not
use \raggedbottom or similar (irrc).

Try to use the footmisc package. It is probably in your latex-installation, 
if not install it from ctan. 
(http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc)

Write something like this is Documents-Settings--LaTeX Preamble

\usepackage[bottom]{footmisc}

To learn more about the footmisc (it has a lot of options):
http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc/footmisc.pdf

If this don't work we would need a small lyx file demonstrating the problem.

And please do not top post. It makes it less likely for some of us older 
folks to reply ;-).  (and it is much easier to follow a thread in 
mail-archive when inline quoting is used, just try it :))

hth,
Ingar Pareliussen

Re: Footnote location

[Sandro Portmann]

Hi guys,

Thank you all for helping me. I've found the bug and fixed it. It was just, 
that I've not properly done the format BEFORE writing the whole text, but 
afterwards. So it crashed my opinions and it happened what I've explained here. 

Sorry for asking such silly questions, like it looks now afterwards. But the 
first thing I've asked, how to manage the gap between the text and the footnote 
was really helpful. Thank you all for the support!

SP

Am 03.04.2010 um 23:35 schrieb Ingar Pareliussen:

 If I understand your request correctly you want the footnotes always to 
 appear on
 bottom of the page? This is what usually should happen, if you do not
 use \raggedbottom or similar (irrc).
 
 Try to use the footmisc package. It is probably in your latex-installation, 
 if not install it from ctan. 
 (http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc)
 
 Write something like this is Documents-Settings--LaTeX Preamble
 
 \usepackage[bottom]{footmisc}
 
 To learn more about the footmisc (it has a lot of options):
 http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc/footmisc.pdf
 
 If this don't work we would need a small lyx file demonstrating the problem.
 
 And please do not top post. It makes it less likely for some of us older 
 folks to reply ;-).  (and it is much easier to follow a thread in 
 mail-archive when inline quoting is used, just try it :))
 
 hth,
 Ingar Pareliussen

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Paul Rubin]

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook jtw...@... writes:


 However what I don't understand why, whether LaTeX can properly
 justify typewriter font or not, surely such a powerful typesetting
 system could detect that the line was going to exceed the intended
 margin, and at least adjust word wrap to move the offending word
 down to the next line. (of course then the next line would have to be
 readjusted, then the next ad infinum...) It would still fail true
 justification, but at least the text would remain inside the margins.

LaTeX has internal algorithms to measure the badness of a block of text,
and it makes spacing and line-wrapping decisions to minimize badness given
some constraints. Violating a margin is allowed with some penalties; putting
large amounts of space between words is allowed with some penalties. Under
most circumstance, hyphenation is allowed with some penalties. In your
case, there were apparently places where violating the margin was cheaper.

I suspect that a TeXpert could find and adjust the weights assigned to
various forms of typographical malfeasance such that you'd be very unlikely
to get a margin violation. (That's beyond my level of expertise.) I also 
suspect that if you did that, it would end up either looking like a ragged
right paragraph (if you used small violations for short lines and somewhat
large violations for chasms between words) or the first solution I mentioned
(ERT to adjust inter-word spacing) if you continued to enforce justification
and allowed funky inter-word spacing. Your comment about moving the offending
word is essentially the latter case.

 
 And if there is a reason I don't understand, why, LaTeX can't do this,

I suspect the authors did not want to make the decision above (which remedy
to adopt) for you.

 Then perhaps LyX itself {could/should?} in the spirit of letting it's
 users focus on content, detect the known problem and make the
 evidently complex coding adjustments necessary to alter the right
 margin {I gather with LaTeX this is controlled by line length settings,
 which I don't think a LyX user should need to know how to override in
 such a way that the override only affects the typewriter font
 paragraph(s)} 

The ERT fix is not complex, just a bit obscure. I suspect one could create
a module to implement it as a LaTeX environment, although I'm not positive.
It's possible the user would need to futz with the values used in the spacing
adjustment (meaning that larger tolerances might be needed in some situations,
and smaller tolerances might produce nicer looking output in others).

/Paul

Error using -pdfpages- package with ERT and relative paths

[Venable]

Dear LyX users,

I am having some trouble using the -pdfpages- package to insert some
external PDFs into my LyX document.

Everything works fine when I use the Insert - File - External Material
menu option. However, for transparency and ease of reading, I would
prefer to use ERT and the -includepdf- command.

I am able to use the \includepdf command writing directly in LaTeX as
long as I specify the absolute path of the pdf to be included, e.g.
\includepdf{c:/research/dummy.pdf}
or
\includepdf{c:/research/dummy}
(whether the pdf extension is specified does not seem to matter)

For collaboration and for cross-project re-use, it would be very
useful if it were not necessary to specify the absolute path, but use
relative paths instead. For example, if the LyX document were in the
c:/research/ folder, it would be preferable to use just
\includepdf{dummy}

However, this does not seem to be possible.(1) As an example, I
imported the example tex file provided in the pdfpages documentation
(2) into LyX and attempted to export to PDF.

With File - Export - pdflatex, no pdf is created. When I click View
PDF, I get the following error message:

File does not exist:
C:/Users/MyName/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tempdir.Hp5404/lyx_tmpbuf1/pdf-ex.pdf

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix this?

Many thanks in advance.

PS

(1) This is a bit surprising, given that this (includepdf with only a
relative path) is what is created in LaTeX using the Include External
Document menu option and exporting to Plain TeX.

(2) Available at http://www-hep2.fzu.cz/tex/texmf-dist/doc/latex/pdfpages/

In fact, this is what is created using the Include External Document
menu option and exported to Plain TeX.

Re: Error using pdfpages package with ERT and relative paths

[Venable]

Venable venabl...@... writes:

 


Apologies for the near-repeat of the previous post. I googled the heck of this
problem and it seems yesterday's posts had not been captured yet.

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via 
enter>file> 'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child files, and 
collects details of any included and other data files. These component files, 
are then all put into a single directory (thus “flattening” the document’s 
directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay. 

Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

If it matters:
I use whichever version of LyX is available from the repository of
whichever Linux system I'm currently using. At the moment that means:
LyX 1.6.5 on Arch Linux 

Note: I'm NOT an LaTeX wizard, nor a professional writer So if I use an
incorrect name for something... Please bear with me.


This is a work in progress that I work on when I can. I have doubts that
it'll ever get "published" but just in case, I want to keep the output
presentable.

I'm using book (more font sizes) with base size set to 14 so that my eyes
are capable of reading a printed document. I also have roman set to bookman.
Every thing else in document settings are the default values that were
originally set by LyX 1.5.x... But there are some ERT boxes inserted here
and there... 

Now the problem:

If I understand correctly a "leftside page" normally gets a larger righthand
margin to leave room for binding the pages together. Which is fine with me.
But I have a short section* (about a page and a half with an 8.5" x 11"
page size and a base size of 14) that I wanted typeset just a little bit
differently to set it apart from the other text. I don't consider it
verse, and it's certainly not a quote of someone else's words. So I left
the environment set to standard but set the font to typewriter italic. At
this point I should mention that none of the ERT boxes I've inserted are
supposed to change margin settings. However when I view the output with DVI
or PDF, the righthand margin of this short section allows some of the lines
to get within about an quarter of an inch of the right hand edge of the
"paper".  And that's on the leftside page, there is a line on the
rightside page that actually bleeds off the paper...

I can compensate for this by redefining the environment as verse
where the rightside pages righthand margin stays about the same as that of
the leftside page.

I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the "paper" is
approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
quoting anyone...

I've extracted the problematic section into a much smaller document that
includes the preamble, all applicable ERT boxes and a few dummy sections
and chapters to ensure the output formatting of the problem section
remains the same, etc... I will attempt to attach the resulting .lyx file
to this message. So someone smarter than me could maybe tell me what I'm
doing wrong. But I can't remember if attachments make it to this list via
gmane's usenet mirror. We shall see...;-7

-- 
|  ~^~   ~^~
|Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|  ^J(tWdy)P
|\___/ <>#LyX 1.6.5 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 345
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass extbook
\use_default_options false
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman bookman
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100

\graphics default
\paperfontsize 14
\spacing single
\use_hyperref false
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 0
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 2
\tocdepth 2
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 2
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author "" 
\author "" 
\end_header

\begin_body

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status open

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
frontmatter
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Title
Unspecified
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status open

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
setcounter{page}{0}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Newpage newpage
\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Author
\begin_inset space ~
\end_inset


\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset


\begin_inset VSpace vfill
\end_inset

By Joseph Philbrook
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2007 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2008 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2009 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

copyright © 2010 Joseph A Philbrook III all rights reserved.
 
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

The author claims all copy rights to the original content below.
\begin_inset Newline newline
\end_inset

This is a work in progress...
 
\end_layout

Re: Using pdfsync with LyX

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Ami wrote:
> I configured LyX to use Sumatra, but now- what should I do to make the sync
> work? The wiki page discusses ``reverse search", while I'm interested in
> the opposite direction (line in LyX -> line [or page] in pdf when viewing
> it).

As I wrote in another post: this is not possible. LyX currently only supports 
reverse search, not forward search.

Jürgen

Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Richard Brown]

Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
which states

' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

The file it should find, but obviously doesn't, is
/./home/richard/Desktop/book2/form
but with the backslash changed for all those underscores I'm not surprised
the package can't find it. And what gives with the number 10?

Anyone any idea what's going on?

TIA
Richard

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
enter>file>  'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child files, and
collects details of any included and other data files. These component files,
are then all put into a single directory (thus “flattening” the document’s
directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay.

   
This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter 
chain.


rh

Re: Offer... for technical writing

[rgheck]

On 04/02/2010 07:54 PM, Frederick Noronha wrote:

Dear all: I am a journalist and writer, and a heavy user of Lyx.
Please let me know if you need any help (volunteering, without fee) to
help write or edit Lyx help files for users. I am not a techie, but
understand the software ... with guidance I could do it. My English
skills are near-native speaker level. FN

   
Thanks for the offer. My first suggestion would be to describe to the 
LyX documentation list. It's low volume, but issues relating to the docs 
tend to get discussed there.


Generally, though, the documentation is written by whoever has the 
initiative to do it. So if there's something you think isn't clear, 
could be better explained, or just isn't included, then try to do better 
and post your changes to the docs list. The maintainer of the relevant 
manual will then discuss them with you. For the tutorial, user's guide, 
and math manual, that's Uwe Stohr; for the customization and additional 
features manuals (I think), that's me. Others don't have a dedicated 
maintainer.


Hint: Use change tracking when you make these sorts of changes, so it's 
easy for us to identify them.


Richard

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Seems to be a "quirk" of LaTeX specific to typewriter font.  Since 
typewriter font is intended to have fixed spacing, LaTeX can't justify 
things evenly.  There's a fix at 
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.text.tex/2005-09/msg4.html 
that works on your document if you don't mind variable spacing between 
words. Another possibility is to make that section of text left 
justified (ragged right) rather than fully justified. Under other 
circumstance a third option would be to use the hyphenat package to 
allow hyphenation of typewriter text. Unfortunately, that would require 
a change to your prose style -- you're not using long enough words in 
that section. :-)  (I tested this -- hyphenation did not cure the problem.)


/Paul

Re: Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 7:03 AM, Richard Brown wrote:

Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
which states

' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

The file it should find, but obviously doesn't, is
/./home/richard/Desktop/book2/form
but with the backslash changed for all those underscores I'm not surprised
the package can't find it. And what gives with the number 10?

Anyone any idea what's going on?



When LyX compiles a document, it creates a temporary directory 
(typically under /tmp on a Linux system), exports the necessary LaTeX 
file there, copies ancillary files (such as images) there, does any 
necessary format conversions of images there, then runs latex (or 
pdflatex, or whatever), bibtex (if needed) etc. in that temp directory. 
 Files copied from other directories have their names "mangled" to 
indicate the source path, with path separators changed to underscores. 
In mangling the file name, LyX prepends a number (not sure why; might be 
to avoid naming clashes).


So the mangled file name is in fact correct behavior. The question is 
why it's not found. If you repeat the process and open the LyX temp 
buffer (Tools > Preferences > Paths > Temporary directory will point you 
to the parent directory of the temporary buffer) in a file manager, you 
should find a copy of your PDF file there with the corresponding name. 
If not, then apparently LyX was unable to copy it there for some reason.


Did you use Insert > File > External material, with the PDFPages 
template selected, to insert the file?  Also, did you specify the path 
with that "/." at the beginning (rather than "/home/...")?


/Paul

Re: Bizarre file not found error using pdfpages

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Richard Brown wrote:
> Using pdfpages to put a pdf doc into my komabook book (lyx 1.6 on Ubuntu
> 9.10), instead of inserting the file I get a bizarre file not found error,
> which states
> 
> ' Error: pdfpackages error- can't find file
> 10_home_richard_Desktop_book2_form'

Which version of LyX exactly? LyX 1.6.5 included the following bug fix:

- When using the PDF-Pages external inset, copy the included PDF file to
  the temporary directory, where LaTeX searches it (bug 6345).

Jürgen

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/1/2010 11:32 AM, Carlos Ramirez wrote:

Does anyone know how to center and un-bold the "References" title using
bibtext ?


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


also how to avoid the blank page after the references is
inserted ?


I don't think this is a general phenomenon.  It probably is a function 
either of the document class you are using or something specific in your 
file.  If I write a short test file using the article class, insert a 
BibTeX bibliography, and add some text after the bibliography, the extra 
text occurs on the same page as the bibliography (with a little extra 
vertical space separating them.


/Paul

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Saturday 03 April 2010 15:13:22 schrieb rgheck:
> On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > Just wondering:
> >
> > Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
> > enter>file>  'external material' ?
> >
> > Wolfgang
> >
> > From
> > http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html
> >
> > Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.
> >
> > The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child
> > files, and collects details of any included and other data files. These
> > component files, are then all put into a single directory (thus
> > “flattening” the document’s directory tree).
> >
> > The author is Cengiz Gunay.
>
> This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter
> chain.
>
> rh

and how could I do it?

Wolfgang

-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325

Re: References style

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/1/2010 11:32 AM, Carlos Ramirez wrote:

Does anyone know how to center and un-bold the "References" title using
bibtext ?


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.


also how to avoid the blank page after the references is inserted ?

I don't think this is a general phenomenon.  It probably is a function 
either of the document class you are using or something specific in 
your file.  If I write a short test file using the article class, 
insert a BibTeX bibliography, and add some text after the 
bibliography, the extra text occurs on the same page as the 
bibliography (with a little extra vertical space separating them.


In some classes, chapters always start on an odd page, and the 
references are formatted in such classes as an unnumbered chapter usually.


rh

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the standard 
heading format at that point.


/Paul

Re: things that I miss in lyx

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 11:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Saturday 03 April 2010 15:13:22 schrieb rgheck:
   

On 04/03/2010 02:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 

Just wondering:

Would the following be difficult to implement in Lyx or to use it via
enter>file>   'external material' ?

Wolfgang

From
http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/texdirflatten.html

Collect files related to a LaTeX job in a single directory.

The Perl script parses a LaTeX file recursively, scanning all child
files, and collects details of any included and other data files. These
component files, are then all put into a single directory (thus
“flattening” the document’s directory tree).

The author is Cengiz Gunay.
   

This looks like something that one would call as part of the converter
chain.

 

and how could I do it?

   
Define a new format, ltxpak, and then declare texdirflatten as a 
latex-->ltxpak converter. With appropriate arguments, of course. This 
all gets done under Tools>Preferences>File Handling.


There is a complication, namely, that everything is going to happen here 
in LyX's temporary directory. So what I think will happen is that 
texdirflatten will create its directory at e.g.

/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.X0765/lyx_tmpbuf0/flat/
and now the question is: How do we export this? i.e., copy it to the 
original file location? Answer: We define a "copier", and tell it to 
copy this directory to the original document directory. Have a look at 
the ext_copy.py copier that is used with the LaTeX-->HTML converters. 
You may be able to use that, or at least to adapt it to your purposes.


Copiers, etc, are all discussed in the Customization manual.

rh

Re: References style

[rgheck]

On 04/03/2010 11:23 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the 
standard heading format at that point.



Hmm. Perhaps this is done at the beginning of the document.

rh

Re: Offer... for technical writing

[Harun Özkan]

In my humble opinion, this offer of Mr Noronha should be appreciated. A 
touch of an artist from a non-programming area would be a very valuable 
addition to LyX project.



- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Noronha" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:54 AM
Subject: Offer... for technical writing



Dear all: I am a journalist and writer, and a heavy user of Lyx.
Please let me know if you need any help (volunteering, without fee) to
help write or edit Lyx help files for users. I am not a techie, but
understand the software ... with guidance I could do it. My English
skills are near-native speaker level. FN
--
Frederick Noronha
Books from Goa ::  http://goa1556.goa-india.org 

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

> I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
> quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
> leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
> because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the "paper" is
> approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
> And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
> quoting anyone...

I'd like to frame the preceding paragraph and send it to everyone I know. In a 
world where most people jam in codes everywhere, you actually try to make your 
styles represent the intent of the writing.

There's an easy answer to your problem, and I'll tell it to you in another 
email.

StevET
 
Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
 
> I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
> quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
> leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
> because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the "paper" is
> approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
> And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
> quoting anyone...

Hi Joe,

What you want is the MEANING of "Joe's special paragraph" but a LOOK similar 
to the standard quotation environment. So do something like this in a layout 
file:

=
Preamble
\newenvironment{joesspecialparagraphL}
{
\begin{quotation}
% Add any tweaks you want here
}{
% Add any ending tweaks you want here
\end{quotation}
}
EndPreamble


Style JoesSpecialParagraph
  CopyStyle Quotation
  LatexType Environment
  LatexName joesspecialparagraphL
End
=

The part where I discuss tweaks is where you modify the look of the quotation 
environment to match your desired look. So you'd put margin changes, font 
changes, and any decorations (boxes, shaded boxes or whatever) in the tweak 
areas.

I highly recommend you separate the LaTeX code (the stuff between the Preamble 
and EndPreamble from the LyX code (the stuff between "Style" and "End"). LyX 
allows you to stick a Preamble/EndPreamble pair right in the LyX style, and a 
lot of people recommend that, but under certain arcane conditions reusable 
code can break in a non-obvious way when you do that. I always put my LaTeX in 
the upper part of my layout file and the LyX code in the lower part so I don't 
have these problems.

As far as how to make a layout file, I have a bunch of documentation on the 
subject here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: References style

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 4/3/2010 11:32 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 11:23 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 4/3/2010 11:15 AM, rgheck wrote:

On 04/03/2010 10:54 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Insert

\renewcommand{\refname}{\rmfamily\mdseries\begin{center} 
References\end{center}}


in ERT early in the document.


Or put it in the preamble, where it won't clutter the text.



Doesn't seem to work in the preamble -- I think something (not sure 
what) loads or is processed after the preamble and asserts the 
standard heading format at that point.



Hmm. Perhaps this is done at the beginning of the document.

rh


Babel loads after the preamble, so if it redefines \refname, that would 
be the culprit.


/Paul

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

It would appear that on Apr 3, Paul A. Rubin did say:

> Seems to be a "quirk" of LaTeX specific to typewriter font.  Since typewriter
> font is intended to have fixed spacing, LaTeX can't justify things evenly.
> There's a fix at
> http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.text.tex/2005-09/msg4.html
> that works on your document if you don't mind variable spacing between words.
> Another possibility is to make that section of text left justified (ragged
> right) rather than fully justified. Under other circumstance a third option
> would be to use the hyphenat package to allow hyphenation of typewriter text.
> Unfortunately, that would require a change to your prose style -- you're not
> using long enough words in that section. :-)  (I tested this -- hyphenation
> did not cure the problem.)
 
Thank you for the link, and the suggestion on left justification. I'll
have to experiment...

However what I don't understand why, whether LaTeX can properly
justify typewriter font or not, surely such a powerful typesetting
system could detect that the line was going to exceed the intended
margin, and at least adjust "word wrap" to move the offending word
down to the next line. (of course then the next line would have to be
readjusted, then the next ad infinum...) It would still fail true
justification, but at least the text would remain inside the margins.

And if there is a reason I don't understand, why, LaTeX can't do this,
Then perhaps LyX itself {could/should?} in the spirit of letting it's
users focus on content, detect the known problem and make the
evidently complex coding adjustments necessary to alter the right
margin {I gather with LaTeX this is controlled by line length settings,
which I don't think a LyX user should need to know how to override in
such a way that the override only affects the typewriter font
paragraph(s)} 

However both the preceding paragraphs project my idealistic concept of
what LyX/LaTeX should do to keep it's user base concentrating on
content, rather than any belief that either idea will ever come into
play. So I'm curious, would there maybe be something I could put in an
ert box that saves the current line length settings some place that I
could restore them from after I then used some more LyX code to simply
reduce the line length of the affected portion(s) of a document?

One other thought, even if LyX can't be expected to 'automatically'
compensate for this LaTeX "quirk" is it feasible that a line length
element could someday be added to LyX's paragraph settings???

It would appear that on Apr 3, Steve Litt did say:

> 
> On Saturday 03 April 2010 02:48:12 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> 
> > I get similar, but slightly better results from setting the environment to
> > quotation. Like verse, the righthand margin appears the same for both the
> > leftside and rightside pages. But with quotation it's slightly better
> > because the closest it gets to the righthand edge of the "paper" is
> > approximately doubled to a half inch or so... But it's still not right.
> > And besides, Like I said, I don't want it formatted as verse. And I'm not
> > quoting anyone...
> 
> I'd like to frame the preceding paragraph and send it to everyone I know. In 
> a 
> world where most people jam in codes everywhere, you actually try to make 
> your 
> styles represent the intent of the writing.

Well it's not that I'm against inserting codes whenever I need a down
and dirty fix for something. But rather it's a combination of not
having taken a course in typesetting with LaTeX, having difficulty
remembering the things I have learned (I blame that on CRS), and last
but certainly not least, the fact that I'm sold on the idea of letting
my document processor (LyX) free me from micro-managing the details
of my document(s) appearance so that I can concentrate on the content.
That last point was why I chose to try to learn to use LyX about 6
years ago, even though I already realized that for me the learning curve
would be painfully slow. But if you think it would help encourage
style based solutions, please feel free to copy, modify, and publish
any or all of my post with the sole exception of the copyrighted text
embedded in the example attachment.

 - - - - - - - - -< snip/glue/snip >- - - - - - - - - -

> What you want is the MEANING of "Joe's special paragraph" but a LOOK similar 
> to the standard quotation environment. So do something like this in a layout 
> file:
> 
> =
> Preamble
> \newenvironment{joesspecialparagraphL}
> {
> \begin{quotation}
> % Add any tweaks you want here
> }{
> % Add any ending tweaks you want here
> \end{quotation}
> }
> EndPreamble
> 
> 
> Style JoesSpecialParagraph
>   CopyStyle   Quotation
>   LatexType Environment
>   LatexName joesspecialparagraphL
> End
> =
> 
> The part where I discuss tweaks is where you modify the look of 

RE: Footnote location

[Ingar Pareliussen]

If I understand your request correctly you want the footnotes always to appear 
on
bottom of the page? This is what usually should happen, if you do not
use \raggedbottom or similar (irrc).

Try to use the footmisc package. It is probably in your latex-installation, 
if not install it from ctan. 
(http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc)

Write something like this is Documents->Settings-->LaTeX Preamble

\usepackage[bottom]{footmisc}

To learn more about the footmisc (it has a lot of options):
http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc/footmisc.pdf

If this don't work we would need a small lyx file demonstrating the problem.

And please do not top post. It makes it less likely for some of us older 
folks to reply ;-).  (and it is much easier to follow a thread in 
mail-archive when inline quoting is used, just try it :))

hth,
Ingar Pareliussen

Re: Footnote location

[Sandro Portmann]

Hi guys,

Thank you all for helping me. I've found the bug and fixed it. It was just, 
that I've not properly done the format BEFORE writing the whole text, but 
afterwards. So it crashed my opinions and it happened what I've explained here. 

Sorry for asking such silly questions, like it looks now afterwards. But the 
first thing I've asked, how to manage the gap between the text and the footnote 
was really helpful. Thank you all for the support!

SP

Am 03.04.2010 um 23:35 schrieb Ingar Pareliussen:

> If I understand your request correctly you want the footnotes always to 
> appear on
> bottom of the page? This is what usually should happen, if you do not
> use \raggedbottom or similar (irrc).
> 
> Try to use the footmisc package. It is probably in your latex-installation, 
> if not install it from ctan. 
> (http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc)
> 
> Write something like this is Documents->Settings-->LaTeX Preamble
> 
> \usepackage[bottom]{footmisc}
> 
> To learn more about the footmisc (it has a lot of options):
> http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc/footmisc.pdf
> 
> If this don't work we would need a small lyx file demonstrating the problem.
> 
> And please do not top post. It makes it less likely for some of us older 
> folks to reply ;-).  (and it is much easier to follow a thread in 
> mail-archive when inline quoting is used, just try it :))
> 
> hth,
> Ingar Pareliussen

Re: Output: Right margin problem for a section* (standard font:typewriter,italic)

[Paul Rubin]

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook  writes:


> However what I don't understand why, whether LaTeX can properly
> justify typewriter font or not, surely such a powerful typesetting
> system could detect that the line was going to exceed the intended
> margin, and at least adjust "word wrap" to move the offending word
> down to the next line. (of course then the next line would have to be
> readjusted, then the next ad infinum...) It would still fail true
> justification, but at least the text would remain inside the margins.

LaTeX has internal algorithms to measure the "badness" of a block of text,
and it makes spacing and line-wrapping decisions to minimize badness given
some constraints. Violating a margin is allowed with some penalties; putting
large amounts of space between words is allowed with some penalties. Under
most circumstance, hyphenation is allowed with some penalties. In your
case, there were apparently places where violating the margin was "cheaper".

I suspect that a TeXpert could find and adjust the weights assigned to
various forms of typographical malfeasance such that you'd be very unlikely
to get a margin violation. (That's beyond my level of expertise.) I also 
suspect that if you did that, it would end up either looking like a ragged
right paragraph (if you used small violations for short lines and somewhat
large violations for chasms between words) or the first solution I mentioned
(ERT to adjust inter-word spacing) if you continued to enforce justification
and allowed funky inter-word spacing. Your comment about moving the offending
word is essentially the latter case.

> 
> And if there is a reason I don't understand, why, LaTeX can't do this,

I suspect the authors did not want to make the decision above (which remedy
to adopt) for you.

> Then perhaps LyX itself {could/should?} in the spirit of letting it's
> users focus on content, detect the known problem and make the
> evidently complex coding adjustments necessary to alter the right
> margin {I gather with LaTeX this is controlled by line length settings,
> which I don't think a LyX user should need to know how to override in
> such a way that the override only affects the typewriter font
> paragraph(s)} 

The ERT fix is not complex, just a bit obscure. I suspect one could create
a module to implement it as a LaTeX environment, although I'm not positive.
It's possible the user would need to futz with the values used in the spacing
adjustment (meaning that larger tolerances might be needed in some situations,
and smaller tolerances might produce nicer looking output in others).

/Paul

Error using -pdfpages- package with ERT and relative paths

[Venable]

Dear LyX users,

I am having some trouble using the -pdfpages- package to insert some
external PDFs into my LyX document.

Everything works fine when I use the Insert - File - External Material
menu option. However, for transparency and ease of reading, I would
prefer to use ERT and the -includepdf- command.

I am able to use the \includepdf command writing directly in LaTeX as
long as I specify the absolute path of the pdf to be included, e.g.
\includepdf{c:/research/dummy.pdf}
or
\includepdf{c:/research/dummy}
(whether the pdf extension is specified does not seem to matter)

For collaboration and for cross-project re-use, it would be very
useful if it were not necessary to specify the absolute path, but use
relative paths instead. For example, if the LyX document were in the
c:/research/ folder, it would be preferable to use just
\includepdf{dummy}

However, this does not seem to be possible.(1) As an example, I
imported the example tex file provided in the pdfpages documentation
(2) into LyX and attempted to export to PDF.

With File - Export - pdflatex, no pdf is created. When I click View
PDF, I get the following error message:

File does not exist:
C:/Users/MyName/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tempdir.Hp5404/lyx_tmpbuf1/pdf-ex.pdf

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix this?

Many thanks in advance.

PS

(1) This is a bit surprising, given that this (includepdf with only a
relative path) is what is created in LaTeX using the Include External
Document menu option and exporting to Plain TeX.

(2) Available at http://www-hep2.fzu.cz/tex/texmf-dist/doc/latex/pdfpages/

In fact, this is what is created using the Include External Document
menu option and exported to Plain TeX.

Re: Error using pdfpages package with ERT and relative paths

[Venable]

Venable  writes:

> 


Apologies for the near-repeat of the previous post. I googled the heck of this
problem and it seems yesterday's posts had not been captured yet.