Re: [MacGroup] MacBook Pro charger and password manager

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Second 1password use it everyday it is in the sharing sheet so easy to access 
when on a webpage and you want to save a password.

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> On Jan 6, 2018, at 10:30 PM, Dan <dcrutc...@loumag.com> wrote:
> 
> 1. Does anyone have an extra charging cable for a vintage 2015 MacBook Pro, 
> (a 5-prong connector that plugs straight in, rather than one of those that 
> hugs the side of the computer) that they’d be willing to donate or sell?

The 2015s used the “MagSafe 2” version of the adapter and you will need to use 
an adapter to use the earlier MagSafe power cable if that’s what you end up 
with. I thought I had an extra one, but it’s the 60W for the 13" models and not 
the 80W required for the 15". Sorry.

> 
> 2. Any recommendations for a password-keeping app that works, and syncs, on 
> Mac, iPad and iPhone? I don’t need the most sophisticated one, but it must be 
> easy to use and understand, since it’s for my spouse, who is always losing 
> those little pieces of paper she writes the passwords down on.

I love the heck out of 1Password. A couple of computers and three iOS devices. 
Works great and you can keep all manner of secure stuff in it, not just 
passwords. It works with Safari and can save your website logins easily. Also 
works like a charm with fingerprint ID on iOS. 

Jonathan



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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook Pro charger and password manager

[Jonathan Fletcher]

> On Jan 6, 2018, at 10:30 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> 1. Does anyone have an extra charging cable for a vintage 2015 MacBook Pro, 
> (a 5-prong connector that plugs straight in, rather than one of those that 
> hugs the side of the computer) that they’d be willing to donate or sell?

The 2015s used the “MagSafe 2” version of the adapter and you will need to use 
an adapter to use the earlier MagSafe power cable if that’s what you end up 
with. I thought I had an extra one, but it’s the 60W for the 13" models and not 
the 80W required for the 15". Sorry.

> 
> 2. Any recommendations for a password-keeping app that works, and syncs, on 
> Mac, iPad and iPhone? I don’t need the most sophisticated one, but it must be 
> easy to use and understand, since it’s for my spouse, who is always losing 
> those little pieces of paper she writes the passwords down on.

I love the heck out of 1Password. A couple of computers and three iOS devices. 
Works great and you can keep all manner of secure stuff in it, not just 
passwords. It works with Safari and can save your website logins easily. Also 
works like a charm with fingerprint ID on iOS. 

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[Dan]

charging cable for one MBPro.

> On Jan 6, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Nelsn Helm  wrote:
> 
> for one computer or several?
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 14:43, Dan  wrote:
>> 
>> Two questions:
>> 
>> 1. Does anyone have an extra charging cable for a vintage 2015 MacBook Pro, 
>> (a 5-prong connector that plugs straight in, rather than one of those that 
>> hugs the side of the computer) that they’d be willing to donate or sell?
>> 
>> 2. Any recommendations for a password-keeping app that works, and syncs, on 
>> Mac, iPad and iPhone? I don’t need the most sophisticated one, but it must 
>> be easy to use and understand, since it’s for my spouse, who is always 
>> losing those little pieces of paper she writes the passwords down on.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 5, 2018, at 12:43, tom holloman  wrote:
 
 Just in case u have assistive touch on, right?
>>> 
>>> I don't have it on. If you're asking Jonathan about the pairing, my guess 
>>> is that Apple does this so that an outside agent cannot crack into a phone 
>>> simply by switching out a piece of hardware (like the button). Otherwise 
>>> all that nice encryption would be for nothing.
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[Nelsn Helm]

for one computer or several?

> On Jan 6, 2018, at 14:43, Dan  wrote:
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1. Does anyone have an extra charging cable for a vintage 2015 MacBook Pro, 
> (a 5-prong connector that plugs straight in, rather than one of those that 
> hugs the side of the computer) that they’d be willing to donate or sell?
> 
> 2. Any recommendations for a password-keeping app that works, and syncs, on 
> Mac, iPad and iPhone? I don’t need the most sophisticated one, but it must be 
> easy to use and understand, since it’s for my spouse, who is always losing 
> those little pieces of paper she writes the passwords down on.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 12:43, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just in case u have assistive touch on, right?
>> 
>> I don't have it on. If you're asking Jonathan about the pairing, my guess is 
>> that Apple does this so that an outside agent cannot crack into a phone 
>> simply by switching out a piece of hardware (like the button). Otherwise all 
>> that nice encryption would be for nothing.
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[Dan]

Two questions:

1. Does anyone have an extra charging cable for a vintage 2015 MacBook Pro, (a 
5-prong connector that plugs straight in, rather than one of those that hugs 
the side of the computer) that they’d be willing to donate or sell?

2. Any recommendations for a password-keeping app that works, and syncs, on 
Mac, iPad and iPhone? I don’t need the most sophisticated one, but it must be 
easy to use and understand, since it’s for my spouse, who is always losing 
those little pieces of paper she writes the passwords down on.

Thanks.

Dan

> On Jan 5, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 12:43, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> Just in case u have assistive touch on, right?
> 
> I don't have it on. If you're asking Jonathan about the pairing, my guess is 
> that Apple does this so that an outside agent cannot crack into a phone 
> simply by switching out a piece of hardware (like the button). Otherwise all 
> that nice encryption would be for nothing.
> 
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[Lee Larson]

On Oct 22, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Daniel Mickelsen > asked:

> Which Asus were you considering?

Costco had the kick-ass Asus GL753 for about $1100.

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[Daniel Mickelsen]

Which Asus were you considering?

-dan

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:

> On Oct 22, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Daniel Mickelsen 
> wrote:
>
> There is a 13 inch MacBook Pro with function keys instead of the touch bar
> for about $300 less.
>
>
> I looked at that one. The processor is clocked at 2.5 instead of 3.3 GHz,
> so I went with the higher clock speed. For most things this won’t make much
> difference. I decided several hundred dollars amortized over years of use
> might give me a few hours of avoided wait time.
>
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[Lee Larson]

On Oct 22, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Daniel Mickelsen > wrote:

> There is a 13 inch MacBook Pro with function keys instead of the touch bar 
> for about $300 less.

I looked at that one. The processor is clocked at 2.5 instead of 3.3 GHz, so I 
went with the higher clock speed. For most things this won’t make much 
difference. I decided several hundred dollars amortized over years of use might 
give me a few hours of avoided wait time.

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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook Pro thoughts

[Daniel Mickelsen]

Thanks!

There is a 13 inch MacBook Pro with function keys instead of the touch bar
for about $300 less.

-dan

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 9:55 PM, John Robinson 
wrote:

> Thanks so much Lee, you have explained well….
>
> And, your Clip of advise to end your prose was one of your best…
>
> John
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>
> Some of you may recall that last spring, after a lot of thought and angst,
> I bought a brand new 13-inch MacBook Pro with the touch bar. It has a dual
> core i7 processor running at 3.3 GHz and 16 GB of RAM. The only option not
> maxed out was the SSD, since it’s got the 512 GB instead of the 1TB option.
>
> Yesterday, Daniel Mickelsen, who sometimes posts here, emailed to ask me
> what I think of the machine because he’s thinking of buying one. Instead of
> just replying to him, I thought I’d post a little review for our small
> corner of the world.
>
> My previous laptop was a late 2008 unibody MacBook Pro, with a 2.2 GHz
> Core 2 Duo processor running at about 2 GHz, maxed out with 8 GB of RAM and
> a 1TB spinning hard drive. The machine still runs well and, for the most
> part, it would still meet my needs. The only hardware changes I’ve made to
> it are a bigger hard drive, more RAM and a new battery. There’s never been
> a problem. In fact, it’s set up in the family room for me to do email, Web
> browsing and writing while watching baseball.
>
> The question is: Why upgrade?
>
> • A 2008 MacBook Pro won’t run Sierra, let alone High Sierra. It will be
> forever frozen in the El Capitan era. Some of the higher-end programs I use
> all the time are recommending at least Sierra.
>
> • It seemed to be the right time. I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of the
> 2008 machine.
>
> • A bright and sparkly new toy is hard to resist.
>
>
> While shopping around, the biggest problem I had with the new MacBook Pro
> was the “Apple tax.” The new MacBook Pros with an i7 processor are in the
> $2000 range. Machines with comparable hardware from other manufacturers are
> usually priced considerably less than $1500. Although I prefer macOS,
> switching to Linux on a non-Apple laptop wouldn’t be a big deal. The newest
> Ubuntu Linux distributions have everything I need. They are drop-dead easy
> to install. The user interface isn’t quite as slick as the Mac, but
> certainly beats Windows. My new laptop was very nearly an Asus.
>
> Then I stumbled across a liquidation sale from a store going out of
> business and jumped on a great deal.
>
> Here are some good things about the new MacBook Pro.
>
> As we have grown to expect from Apple, the machine is gorgeous. Hacked out
> of two blocks of aluminum, it weighs only three pounds and is about as thin
> as the first iPads—0.6 inches. I carry it everywhere in my backpack.
>
> The MacBook has a really good display! It shows the newer P3 wide-gamut
> color space at 1680x1050. Side-by-side with older machines, there’s no
> comparison. If you do photo editing, you need a display at least as good as
> this one! (I think all the new Macs have wide-gamut displays.) If you buy
> an appropriate dongle, it’ll even run up to a 5120x2880 external display.
> (My wallet won’t let me test this one out.) I often run it with a second
> monitor at 1920x1080.
>
> And it is pretty fast. The performance of the SSD + i7 is sometimes
> startling in comparison to the machines I had been using at home for
> serious work: 2014 iMac, 2015 Mac mini and a home-brew pretty fast Linux
> machine. There are programs I’d previously run in *Mathematica* during
> which I’d go get a cup of tea while the thing was churning away. Now, I
> often can’t even get out of the room before it’s done; e.g., a million
> decimal places of π in 0.28 seconds.
>
> When I started shopping for a new computer, there was big news in the
> computer world because Consumer Reports claimed the MacBook Pros had
> terrible battery life. Apple was claiming ten hours with typical use and
> Consumer Reports was claiming less than five. It turned out that a bug in
> Safari was exacerbating a flawed testing method to make the battery drain
> too quickly. It seems Apple is correct with the ten hour estimate because
> I’ve gone beyond eight hours several times and still had juice left when I
> was done.
>
>
> And now the bad…
>
> You should know where I’m coming from on this one. My favorite keyboard is
> the old Apple Extended Keyboard II, a.k.a. “Enterprise” model, that was
> pretty standard in the late 1990s. Most of my typing in both my home and
> work offices is done on old Enterprise keyboards attached to Macs with ADB
> to USB dongles. These are huge keyboards—like the Enterprise aircraft
> carrier—with deep throws on the keys.
>
> The keyboard on the MacBook Pro is the opposite of the Enterprise. In his
> eternal quest for thinness, Sir Ive has reduced the depth of the keyboard
> and the keys hardly move. They have some resistance and a clicky 

Re: [MacGroup] MacBook Pro thoughts

[John Robinson]

Thanks so much Lee, you have explained well….

And, your Clip of advise to end your prose was one of your best…

John


> On Oct 21, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> Some of you may recall that last spring, after a lot of thought and angst, I 
> bought a brand new 13-inch MacBook Pro with the touch bar. It has a dual core 
> i7 processor running at 3.3 GHz and 16 GB of RAM. The only option not maxed 
> out was the SSD, since it’s got the 512 GB instead of the 1TB option.
> 
> Yesterday, Daniel Mickelsen, who sometimes posts here, emailed to ask me what 
> I think of the machine because he’s thinking of buying one. Instead of just 
> replying to him, I thought I’d post a little review for our small corner of 
> the world.
> 
> My previous laptop was a late 2008 unibody MacBook Pro, with a 2.2 GHz Core 2 
> Duo processor running at about 2 GHz, maxed out with 8 GB of RAM and a 1TB 
> spinning hard drive. The machine still runs well and, for the most part, it 
> would still meet my needs. The only hardware changes I’ve made to it are a 
> bigger hard drive, more RAM and a new battery. There’s never been a problem. 
> In fact, it’s set up in the family room for me to do email, Web browsing and 
> writing while watching baseball.
> 
> The question is: Why upgrade?
> 
> • A 2008 MacBook Pro won’t run Sierra, let alone High Sierra. It will be 
> forever frozen in the El Capitan era. Some of the higher-end programs I use 
> all the time are recommending at least Sierra.
> 
> • It seemed to be the right time. I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of the 
> 2008 machine.
> 
> • A bright and sparkly new toy is hard to resist.
> 
> 
> While shopping around, the biggest problem I had with the new MacBook Pro was 
> the “Apple tax.” The new MacBook Pros with an i7 processor are in the $2000 
> range. Machines with comparable hardware from other manufacturers are usually 
> priced considerably less than $1500. Although I prefer macOS, switching to 
> Linux on a non-Apple laptop wouldn’t be a big deal. The newest Ubuntu Linux 
> distributions have everything I need. They are drop-dead easy to install. The 
> user interface isn’t quite as slick as the Mac, but certainly beats Windows. 
> My new laptop was very nearly an Asus.
> 
> Then I stumbled across a liquidation sale from a store going out of business 
> and jumped on a great deal.
> 
> Here are some good things about the new MacBook Pro.
> 
> As we have grown to expect from Apple, the machine is gorgeous. Hacked out of 
> two blocks of aluminum, it weighs only three pounds and is about as thin as 
> the first iPads—0.6 inches. I carry it everywhere in my backpack.
> 
> The MacBook has a really good display! It shows the newer P3 wide-gamut color 
> space at 1680x1050. Side-by-side with older machines, there’s no comparison. 
> If you do photo editing, you need a display at least as good as this one! (I 
> think all the new Macs have wide-gamut displays.) If you buy an appropriate 
> dongle, it’ll even run up to a 5120x2880 external display. (My wallet won’t 
> let me test this one out.) I often run it with a second monitor at 1920x1080.
> 
> And it is pretty fast. The performance of the SSD + i7 is sometimes startling 
> in comparison to the machines I had been using at home for serious work: 2014 
> iMac, 2015 Mac mini and a home-brew pretty fast Linux machine. There are 
> programs I’d previously run in Mathematica during which I’d go get a cup of 
> tea while the thing was churning away. Now, I often can’t even get out of the 
> room before it’s done; e.g., a million decimal places of π in 0.28 seconds.
> 
> When I started shopping for a new computer, there was big news in the 
> computer world because Consumer Reports claimed the MacBook Pros had terrible 
> battery life. Apple was claiming ten hours with typical use and Consumer 
> Reports was claiming less than five. It turned out that a bug in Safari was 
> exacerbating a flawed testing method to make the battery drain too quickly. 
> It seems Apple is correct with the ten hour estimate because I’ve gone beyond 
> eight hours several times and still had juice left when I was done.
> 
> 
> And now the bad…
> 
> You should know where I’m coming from on this one. My favorite keyboard is 
> the old Apple Extended Keyboard II, a.k.a. “Enterprise” model, that was 
> pretty standard in the late 1990s. Most of my typing in both my home and work 
> offices is done on old Enterprise keyboards attached to Macs with ADB to USB 
> dongles. These are huge keyboards—like the Enterprise aircraft carrier—with 
> deep throws on the keys.
> 
> The keyboard on the MacBook Pro is the opposite of the Enterprise. In his 
> eternal quest for thinness, Sir Ive has reduced the depth of the keyboard and 
> the keys hardly move. They have some resistance and a clicky feel to them. At 
> first I had a lot of trouble getting up to speed on the new keyboard, but I 
> guess I’m grudgingly getting used to it.
> 
> Then 

[MacGroup] MacBook Pro thoughts

[Lee Larson]

Some of you may recall that last spring, after a lot of thought and angst, I 
bought a brand new 13-inch MacBook Pro with the touch bar. It has a dual core 
i7 processor running at 3.3 GHz and 16 GB of RAM. The only option not maxed out 
was the SSD, since it’s got the 512 GB instead of the 1TB option.

Yesterday, Daniel Mickelsen, who sometimes posts here, emailed to ask me what I 
think of the machine because he’s thinking of buying one. Instead of just 
replying to him, I thought I’d post a little review for our small corner of the 
world.

My previous laptop was a late 2008 unibody MacBook Pro, with a 2.2 GHz Core 2 
Duo processor running at about 2 GHz, maxed out with 8 GB of RAM and a 1TB 
spinning hard drive. The machine still runs well and, for the most part, it 
would still meet my needs. The only hardware changes I’ve made to it are a 
bigger hard drive, more RAM and a new battery. There’s never been a problem. In 
fact, it’s set up in the family room for me to do email, Web browsing and 
writing while watching baseball.

The question is: Why upgrade?

• A 2008 MacBook Pro won’t run Sierra, let alone High Sierra. It will be 
forever frozen in the El Capitan era. Some of the higher-end programs I use all 
the time are recommending at least Sierra.

• It seemed to be the right time. I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of the 2008 
machine.

• A bright and sparkly new toy is hard to resist.


While shopping around, the biggest problem I had with the new MacBook Pro was 
the “Apple tax.” The new MacBook Pros with an i7 processor are in the $2000 
range. Machines with comparable hardware from other manufacturers are usually 
priced considerably less than $1500. Although I prefer macOS, switching to 
Linux on a non-Apple laptop wouldn’t be a big deal. The newest Ubuntu Linux 
distributions have everything I need. They are drop-dead easy to install. The 
user interface isn’t quite as slick as the Mac, but certainly beats Windows. My 
new laptop was very nearly an Asus.

Then I stumbled across a liquidation sale from a store going out of business 
and jumped on a great deal.

Here are some good things about the new MacBook Pro.

As we have grown to expect from Apple, the machine is gorgeous. Hacked out of 
two blocks of aluminum, it weighs only three pounds and is about as thin as the 
first iPads—0.6 inches. I carry it everywhere in my backpack.

The MacBook has a really good display! It shows the newer P3 wide-gamut color 
space at 1680x1050. Side-by-side with older machines, there’s no comparison. If 
you do photo editing, you need a display at least as good as this one! (I think 
all the new Macs have wide-gamut displays.) If you buy an appropriate dongle, 
it’ll even run up to a 5120x2880 external display. (My wallet won’t let me test 
this one out.) I often run it with a second monitor at 1920x1080.

And it is pretty fast. The performance of the SSD + i7 is sometimes startling 
in comparison to the machines I had been using at home for serious work: 2014 
iMac, 2015 Mac mini and a home-brew pretty fast Linux machine. There are 
programs I’d previously run in Mathematica during which I’d go get a cup of tea 
while the thing was churning away. Now, I often can’t even get out of the room 
before it’s done; e.g., a million decimal places of π in 0.28 seconds.

When I started shopping for a new computer, there was big news in the computer 
world because Consumer Reports claimed the MacBook Pros had terrible battery 
life. Apple was claiming ten hours with typical use and Consumer Reports was 
claiming less than five. It turned out that a bug in Safari was exacerbating a 
flawed testing method to make the battery drain too quickly. It seems Apple is 
correct with the ten hour estimate because I’ve gone beyond eight hours several 
times and still had juice left when I was done.


And now the bad…

You should know where I’m coming from on this one. My favorite keyboard is the 
old Apple Extended Keyboard II, a.k.a. “Enterprise” model, that was pretty 
standard in the late 1990s. Most of my typing in both my home and work offices 
is done on old Enterprise keyboards attached to Macs with ADB to USB dongles. 
These are huge keyboards—like the Enterprise aircraft carrier—with deep throws 
on the keys.

The keyboard on the MacBook Pro is the opposite of the Enterprise. In his 
eternal quest for thinness, Sir Ive has reduced the depth of the keyboard and 
the keys hardly move. They have some resistance and a clicky feel to them. At 
first I had a lot of trouble getting up to speed on the new keyboard, but I 
guess I’m grudgingly getting used to it.

Then there’s the touch bar…

The touch bar seems at first blush like a pretty clever idea. It’sa 2170x60 
touch screen display with a lot of the guts of an iPhone behind it. In many 
ways, the touch bar is a computer within a computer. It can be customized by 
any program to display icons and controls. It could be quite useful, or it 
could be a gimmick.

The problem 

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[Lee Larson]

On Sep 6, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Richard Meadows > wrote:

> I did my routine once a month reboot and Command Option P R press down when 
> it rebooted... all goes as usual till about 2/3 of the way thru boot up on 
> the show bar on screen.

Just curious. Why are you resetting the NVRAM in the first place?

Make sure no peripherals are plugged in when you reboot.Î

L^2

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[Richard Meadows]

I did my routine once a month reboot and Command Option P R press down when it 
rebooted... all goes as usual till about 2/3 of the way thru boot up on the 
show bar on screen.

Then it goes OFF. Start with button, repeat to 2/3 of the way and then it goes 
off.

I am flummoxed. Idea, Help, or is it another tip to the Genius Bar?   The LED 
on the power cord is GREEN. 

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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook virus

[Jane Plunkett]

Ahh...I had the exact same problem with my iMac. I ran verify disk, and 
it said it was just fine. But it wouldn't let me erase it, and the 
computer wouldn't do anything but default to the disk utility. I could 
see the other partition on disk utility, but I didn't know what it was 
for. Fortunately, I am a fanatic about backing stuff up, so I put in a 
new hard drive and restored the computer that way. Now I know it was 
probably booting into the wrong partition. Learned something new. Thanks



On 7/24/17 5:19 PM, Lee Larson wrote:
On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:52 PM, tom holloman > wrote:



Aloha all
Hopefully someone has ideas on this.
A friend has a two year old MacBook Pro that has obtained a weird 
virus. It was updated but now shows the incorrect iOS number and has 
duplicated all photos.
She had nortons on it but when I looked it showed last update 1999. 
Hard drive shows only 3GB available but she only had about 50 GB on it.
Installed my disk warrior and tried to run it and it corrupted the 
USB it was on!

Tried to download bitdefender but got message the Os didn't support it.
Any ideas other than wiping clean and losing all her quick books dats?
Mahalo
Tom


Here’s an unlikely scenario that darn near drove me crazy a while back 
and sounds similar. It’s not likely to be the same problem.


I was helping a friend who had symptoms similar to those you describe 
after installing a MacOS upgrade. It turned out he had two boot 
partitions on his hard drive and had forgotten about one. After the 
upgrade, the Mac booted into the wrong partition. I discovered this by 
holding down the option key after restarting. When you do this, it 
will show all the boot partitions available and you can choose the one 
you want.


L^2

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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook virus

[Lee Larson]

On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:52 PM, tom holloman > wrote:

> Aloha all
> Hopefully someone has ideas on this.
> A friend has a two year old MacBook Pro that has obtained a weird virus. It 
> was updated but now shows the incorrect iOS number and has duplicated all 
> photos.
> She had nortons on it but when I looked it showed last update 1999. Hard 
> drive shows only 3GB available but she only had about 50 GB on it.
> Installed my disk warrior and tried to run it and it corrupted the USB it was 
> on!
> Tried to download bitdefender but got message the Os didn't support it.
> Any ideas other than wiping clean and losing all her quick books dats?
> Mahalo
> Tom


Here’s an unlikely scenario that darn near drove me crazy a while back and 
sounds similar. It’s not likely to be the same problem.

I was helping a friend who had symptoms similar to those you describe after 
installing a MacOS upgrade. It turned out he had two boot partitions on his 
hard drive and had forgotten about one. After the upgrade, the Mac booted into 
the wrong partition. I discovered this by holding down the option key after 
restarting. When you do this, it will show all the boot partitions available 
and you can choose the one you want.

L^2

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[tom holloman]

Aloha all
Hopefully someone has ideas on this.
A friend has a two year old MacBook Pro that has obtained a weird virus. It was 
updated but now shows the incorrect iOS number and has duplicated all photos.
She had nortons on it but when I looked it showed last update 1999. Hard drive 
shows only 3GB available but she only had about 50 GB on it.
Installed my disk warrior and tried to run it and it corrupted the USB it was 
on!
Tried to download bitdefender but got message the Os didn't support it.
Any ideas other than wiping clean and losing all her quick books dats?
Mahalo
Tom
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[MacGroup] MacBook Air For Sale

[Richard D. Meadows]

I have a mid 2013 MacBook Air for sale. If you or someone you know is 
interested you can find it here:

http://louisville.craigslist.org/sys/5983296128.html 


Thanks,


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[Jeff @ SLYN Systems]

Thanks so much Eric!  Just seeing this.  Will communicate with him during 
"normal" hours later today.  ;)

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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:59:07 -0400

Getting the part's going to be tricky at this point if he doesn't have one 
already. Has he checked with MacAuthority or Best Buy? Alternatively, maybe a 
USB keyboard to get through the weekend (or longer)?


On Aug 17, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Jeff @ SLYN Systems wrote:

> Received a call today from someone with a A1286 MacBook Pro that needs a 
> replacement keyboard.  He hasn't purchased one yet and is willing to pay 
> someone to install.  The Apple Store can't get him in till this weekend but 
> he's going to be out of town then so can't do the visit.
>  
> Can anyone help?
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook

[B. Eric Bradley]

Getting the part's going to be tricky at this point if he doesn't have one 
already. Has he checked with MacAuthority or Best Buy? Alternatively, maybe a 
USB keyboard to get through the weekend (or longer)?


On Aug 17, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Jeff @ SLYN Systems wrote:

> Received a call today from someone with a A1286 MacBook Pro that needs a 
> replacement keyboard.  He hasn't purchased one yet and is willing to pay 
> someone to install.  The Apple Store can't get him in till this weekend but 
> he's going to be out of town then so can't do the visit.
>  
> Can anyone help?
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook won't boot up

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On 03/28/2016 06:05 PM, Dan Crutcher wrote:

> Update: Another oddity was that the “automatic login” feature under
> Users & Groups was grayed out, so I couldn’t choose it. By Googling
> “automatic login,” I discovered that automatic login is disabled if
> FileVault is active on an account. I had forgotten that I’d turned it on
> a couple of months ago. I turned off FileVault and now see both users
> when I start up and am able to set automatic login and am able to boot
> into the account of the user that was not letting me do so before.
> Problem (temporarily?) solved.

I'd guess when you turned off FileVault, a lot of stuff had to be
rewritten on the drive while the decryption occurred. This especially
includes things like the directory structure and VTOC. If these were
messed up before, the rewriting might have cleaned things up.

I'd still run Disk Warrior on the device because this points even more
to drive problems.

By the way, I run FileVault on all my Macs and have never had a problem
for which I could blame it. I think it's especially important to use it
on laptops.

It's even a nice layer of security on a desktop machine. If somebody
manages to compromise your machine over the network, they still can't
read your stuff, unless they have your account password. Even root
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[Dan Crutcher]

Update: Another oddity was that the “automatic login” feature under Users & 
Groups was grayed out, so I couldn’t choose it. By Googling “automatic login,” 
I discovered that automatic login is disabled if FileVault is active on an 
account. I had forgotten that I’d turned it on a couple of months ago. I turned 
off FileVault and now see both users when I start up and am able to set 
automatic login and am able to boot into the account of the user that was not 
letting me do so before. Problem (temporarily?) solved.

Not sure is FileVault was the culprit, but that’s my current working 
hypothesis. Am still going to run Disk Warrior when it comes.


> On Mar 28, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Dan Crutcher  wrote:
> 
> Beth,
> 
> Mine’s an early 2013 Retina. What’s even weirder is that I created a new 
> user, thinking maybe it would boot up for that user, but when I do a restart 
> it doesn’t even show that user as one of the available options. If I do a 
> safe boot, it does show (and boot into) that user.
> 
> I have ordered an update for Disk Warrior and will try that next. Meanwhile 
> I’ll just work in safe mode, I suppose.
> 
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>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Beth Phillips > > wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, What model MacBook Pro are you using? I've had the same problem with
>> my Late 2011 MacBook Pro, along with some video issues.
>> 
>> 
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>> On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Dan Crutcher > > wrote:
>> 
>>> My MacBook Pro, running 10.11.3, won¹t boot into anything but Safe Mode.
>>> When I try to do a regular boot, the progress bar goes about halfway,
>>> screen goes black, then it restarts itself. Again and again. From safe
>>> mode I have run Disk Utility¹s First Aid twice. I have reset PRAM, but
>>> get same behavior.
>>> Any suggestions?
>> 
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Beth,

Mine’s an early 2013 Retina. What’s even weirder is that I created a new user, 
thinking maybe it would boot up for that user, but when I do a restart it 
doesn’t even show that user as one of the available options. If I do a safe 
boot, it does show (and boot into) that user.

I have ordered an update for Disk Warrior and will try that next. Meanwhile 
I’ll just work in safe mode, I suppose.

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> On Mar 28, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Beth Phillips  wrote:
> 
> Dan, What model MacBook Pro are you using? I've had the same problem with
> my Late 2011 MacBook Pro, along with some video issues.
> 
> 
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> On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Dan Crutcher  wrote:
> 
>> My MacBook Pro, running 10.11.3, won¹t boot into anything but Safe Mode.
>> When I try to do a regular boot, the progress bar goes about halfway,
>> screen goes black, then it restarts itself. Again and again. From safe
>> mode I have run Disk Utility¹s First Aid twice. I have reset PRAM, but
>> get same behavior.
>> Any suggestions?
> 
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[Beth Phillips]

Dan, What model MacBook Pro are you using? I've had the same problem with
my Late 2011 MacBook Pro, along with some video issues.


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On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Dan Crutcher  wrote:

>My MacBook Pro, running 10.11.3, won¹t boot into anything but Safe Mode.
>When I try to do a regular boot, the progress bar goes about halfway,
>screen goes black, then it restarts itself. Again and again. From safe
>mode I have run Disk Utility¹s First Aid twice. I have reset PRAM, but
>get same behavior.
>Any suggestions?



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On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Dan Crutcher  wrote:

> My MacBook Pro, running 10.11.3, won’t boot into anything but Safe Mode. When 
> I try to do a regular boot, the progress bar goes about halfway, screen goes 
> black, then it restarts itself. Again and again. From safe mode I have run 
> Disk Utility’s First Aid twice. I have reset PRAM, but get same behavior.
> 
> Any suggestions?

It sounds like a hard drive problem to me. I’d try booting off an external 
drive to make sure the machine’s okay. If that works, then get a better disk 
tool than Disk Utility and try to fix the drive.I’d try Disk Warrior and 
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[Dan Crutcher]

My MacBook Pro, running 10.11.3, won’t boot into anything but Safe Mode. When I 
try to do a regular boot, the progress bar goes about halfway, screen goes 
black, then it restarts itself. Again and again. From safe mode I have run Disk 
Utility’s First Aid twice. I have reset PRAM, but get same behavior.

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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[Bill Rising]

On Oct 4, 2015, at 17:48, Brian O'Neal  wrote:

> 
> Wow. 
> It's overdue Bill. ;)

It is, but it's gonna take a looong time. I'm sure I won't miss most of the 
apps I use very rarely, but I worry about all the other customizations I have 
for getting clunky stuff at my job to work smoothly.

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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[John Robinson]

DiskWarrior would prevent all this work.   Unless you have something really 
wrong with the drive you don't have to worry about how many fonts etc.  

John

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> On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As a followup for what I decided to do:
> 
> Rather than spend the money on DiskWarrior to rebuild the directory, I 
> figured it might be possible to back everything up, erase the disk, and 
> restore the backup, as this should make the files more organized.
> 
> It seems that there were others out on the intertubes who also had this 
> opinion. 
> 
> So, I went took this in-between road of full reinstall and using Diskwarrior 
> to rebuild things---I backed up (twice), and then erased my hard drive and 
> restored.
> 
> Result: no real help.
> 
> So... I went poking around again to see if there could be any other solutions.
> 
> One possible problem could be the number of fonts I have installed, which is 
> close to 600. I checked the fonts with FontBook and found there are quite a 
> few which have duplicate copies, thanks to Microsoft. I can certainly believe 
> that too many fonts can cause applications to open slowly, esp. if they find 
> it necessary to build a font menu before they open (a la Microsoft apps, 
> which take forever to open on my computer).
> 
> All in all, I'm no longer concerned that my hard drive is in a bad state. I'm 
> now thinking that when I install El Capitan, I'll finally have to bite the 
> bullet and do a clean install, hand-copy all my documents over, and then 
> reinstall a. I've been doing upgrades (rather than clean installs) ever since 
> Lynx (or whatever 10.0.4 was called), so I'm sure that I have a lot of cruft 
> which has built up. 
> 
> I really dread re-installing all my software and getting everything set up to 
> work properly. After all, along with all the cruft came a lot of 
> customization.
> 
> Thanks for the tips,
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[John Robinson]

Your probably right, I have used DW for years on dozens of Macs & it cures so 
many drives that are useless.  Some on this list have tried & write back the 
can't believe how good their Mac works, like getting a new one.  In your case 
it might not help at all. At least you now know of software that can keep your 
machine performing at its best, like changing the oil in the car or changing 
the furnace filter, some maintenance needs to be performed on the Mac every so 
often.  

John

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> On Oct 4, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 13:03, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> DiskWarrior would prevent all this work.   Unless you have something really 
>> wrong with the drive you don't have to worry about how many fonts etc. 
> 
> I understand that it could be more convenient than the back-and-restore I did 
> last night. I also understand that it could be worthwhile if my disk were 
> corrupted or had bad blocks.
> 
> I'm not sure how it could take care of old kernel extensions, outdated fonts, 
> and other leftovers from old applications and operating systems. For 
> instance, I have over 200 folders in ~/Library/Application Support, many of 
> which are from old applications that never get used anymore. A clean install 
> would cut this down to just the applications I re-install. While all these 
> extras pieces of garbage might not slow down my computer, I'm sure there are 
> other files lingering somewhere that are... 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[Bill Rising]

On Oct 4, 2015, at 13:03, John Robinson  wrote:

> DiskWarrior would prevent all this work.   Unless you have something really 
> wrong with the drive you don't have to worry about how many fonts etc.  

I understand that it could be more convenient than the back-and-restore I did 
last night. I also understand that it could be worthwhile if my disk were 
corrupted or had bad blocks.

I'm not sure how it could take care of old kernel extensions, outdated fonts, 
and other leftovers from old applications and operating systems. For instance, 
I have over 200 folders in ~/Library/Application Support, many of which are 
from old applications that never get used anymore. A clean install would cut 
this down to just the applications I re-install. While all these extras pieces 
of garbage might not slow down my computer, I'm sure there are other files 
lingering somewhere that are... 

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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[Brian O'Neal]

Wow. 
It's overdue Bill. ;)

Brian



> On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As a followup for what I decided to do:
> 
> Rather than spend the money on DiskWarrior to rebuild the directory, I 
> figured it might be possible to back everything up, erase the disk, and 
> restore the backup, as this should make the files more organized.
> 
> It seems that there were others out on the intertubes who also had this 
> opinion. 
> 
> So, I went took this in-between road of full reinstall and using Diskwarrior 
> to rebuild things---I backed up (twice), and then erased my hard drive and 
> restored.
> 
> Result: no real help.
> 
> So... I went poking around again to see if there could be any other solutions.
> 
> One possible problem could be the number of fonts I have installed, which is 
> close to 600. I checked the fonts with FontBook and found there are quite a 
> few which have duplicate copies, thanks to Microsoft. I can certainly believe 
> that too many fonts can cause applications to open slowly, esp. if they find 
> it necessary to build a font menu before they open (a la Microsoft apps, 
> which take forever to open on my computer).
> 
> All in all, I'm no longer concerned that my hard drive is in a bad state. I'm 
> now thinking that when I install El Capitan, I'll finally have to bite the 
> bullet and do a clean install, hand-copy all my documents over, and then 
> reinstall a. I've been doing upgrades (rather than clean installs) ever since 
> Lynx (or whatever 10.0.4 was called), so I'm sure that I have a lot of cruft 
> which has built up. 
> 
> I really dread re-installing all my software and getting everything set up to 
> work properly. After all, along with all the cruft came a lot of 
> customization.
> 
> Thanks for the tips,
> 
> Bill
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[MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[Bill Rising]

Hey all,

My mid-2012 Macbook Pro has been losing its mind of late. Safari can take over 
50 bounces to start up. Opening a new Finder window can cause a beach ball for 
about a minute. Applications start up very slowly. Verrry slowly. 

There's more.

The date and time preference pane has stopped automatically updating my time 
zone by location. I'll travel somewhere, and it'll refuse to change the time 
zone. I'll set the time zone manually. When I come back here and let OS X try 
to set the time zone automatically, it'll show the pin in Louisville, but will 
leave the time set to whatever the last time zone was.

I've tried a few things: rebooting, zapping PRAM, making another account to 
test from, starting in Safe mode and testing. Nothing has helped. 

Oh, I also booted into recovery mode and running Disk Utility to verify the 
disk (it passed).

Anyone have any ideas for what my next step should be? Could this be a hard 
drive issue? If so, how would I know?

I'm still running Mavericks because my initial impression of Yosemite was 'butt 
ugly' and I didn't feel like fooling with it. I am planning on poking my eyes 
out with a stick and updating to El Capitan, because it is necessary for having 
iOS 9 share basic things like Notes with my laptop.

Thanks for any tips,

Bill
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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[Bill Rising]

On Oct 2, 2015, at 17:28, Bill Rising  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> My mid-2012 Macbook Pro has been losing its mind of late. Safari can take 
> over 50 bounces to start up. Opening a new Finder window can cause a beach 
> ball for about a minute. Applications start up very slowly. Verrry 
> slowly. 
> 
> There's more.
> 
> The date and time preference pane has stopped automatically updating my time 
> zone by location. I'll travel somewhere, and it'll refuse to change the time 
> zone. I'll set the time zone manually. When I come back here and let OS X try 
> to set the time zone automatically, it'll show the pin in Louisville, but 
> will leave the time set to whatever the last time zone was.
> 
> I've tried a few things: rebooting, zapping PRAM, making another account to 
> test from, starting in Safe mode and testing. Nothing has helped. 
> 
> Oh, I also booted into recovery mode and running Disk Utility to verify the 
> disk (it passed).
> 
> Anyone have any ideas for what my next step should be? Could this be a hard 
> drive issue? If so, how would I know?

OK, on a whim, I got rid of a couple of old preference panes which I haven't 
used for a while: Default App (RCDefaultApp.prefPane) and Diablotin 
(Diablotin.prefPane) and rebooted. Amazingly enough, Safari started up quickly. 
So did Mail. So did Aquamacs (the Mac version of the venerable (i.e. ancient) 
Emacs text editor).

But... the Date and Time preferences are still jacked up.

Bill
Now feeling like I'm using MacOS 9 



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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[Brian O'Neal]

Check time zone. 

Uncheck auto update. Set the time and date, set time zone. 
Now re check auto update. 

See if that clears it up. 


Brian O'



> On Oct 2, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 17:28, Bill Rising  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> My mid-2012 Macbook Pro has been losing its mind of late. Safari can take 
>> over 50 bounces to start up. Opening a new Finder window can cause a beach 
>> ball for about a minute. Applications start up very slowly. Verrry 
>> slowly. 
>> 
>> There's more.
>> 
>> The date and time preference pane has stopped automatically updating my time 
>> zone by location. I'll travel somewhere, and it'll refuse to change the time 
>> zone. I'll set the time zone manually. When I come back here and let OS X 
>> try to set the time zone automatically, it'll show the pin in Louisville, 
>> but will leave the time set to whatever the last time zone was.
>> 
>> I've tried a few things: rebooting, zapping PRAM, making another account to 
>> test from, starting in Safe mode and testing. Nothing has helped. 
>> 
>> Oh, I also booted into recovery mode and running Disk Utility to verify the 
>> disk (it passed).
>> 
>> Anyone have any ideas for what my next step should be? Could this be a hard 
>> drive issue? If so, how would I know?
> 
> OK, on a whim, I got rid of a couple of old preference panes which I haven't 
> used for a while: Default App (RCDefaultApp.prefPane) and Diablotin 
> (Diablotin.prefPane) and rebooted. Amazingly enough, Safari started up 
> quickly. So did Mail. So did Aquamacs (the Mac version of the venerable (i.e. 
> ancient) Emacs text editor).
> 
> But... the Date and Time preferences are still jacked up.
> 
> Bill
> Now feeling like I'm using MacOS 9 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[John Robinson]

Run DiskWarrior over the drive to rebuild the directory & you'll have a new 
machine 

John

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> On Oct 2, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> My mid-2012 Macbook Pro has been losing its mind of late. Safari can take 
> over 50 bounces to start up. Opening a new Finder window can cause a beach 
> ball for about a minute. Applications start up very slowly. Verrry 
> slowly. 
> 
> There's more.
> 
> The date and time preference pane has stopped automatically updating my time 
> zone by location. I'll travel somewhere, and it'll refuse to change the time 
> zone. I'll set the time zone manually. When I come back here and let OS X try 
> to set the time zone automatically, it'll show the pin in Louisville, but 
> will leave the time set to whatever the last time zone was.
> 
> I've tried a few things: rebooting, zapping PRAM, making another account to 
> test from, starting in Safe mode and testing. Nothing has helped. 
> 
> Oh, I also booted into recovery mode and running Disk Utility to verify the 
> disk (it passed).
> 
> Anyone have any ideas for what my next step should be? Could this be a hard 
> drive issue? If so, how would I know?
> 
> I'm still running Mavericks because my initial impression of Yosemite was 
> 'butt ugly' and I didn't feel like fooling with it. I am planning on poking 
> my eyes out with a stick and updating to El Capitan, because it is necessary 
> for having iOS 9 share basic things like Notes with my laptop.
> 
> Thanks for any tips,
> 
> Bill
> I feel like I'm using Windows.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[tom holloman]

I agree with John. Disk warrior has saved me many times. Then install El
Capitan, it's great.

On Friday, October 2, 2015, John Robinson  wrote:

> Run DiskWarrior over the drive to rebuild the directory & you'll have a
> new machine
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 2, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Bill Rising >
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > My mid-2012 Macbook Pro has been losing its mind of late. Safari can
> take over 50 bounces to start up. Opening a new Finder window can cause a
> beach ball for about a minute. Applications start up very slowly.
> Verrry slowly.
> >
> > There's more.
> >
> > The date and time preference pane has stopped automatically updating my
> time zone by location. I'll travel somewhere, and it'll refuse to change
> the time zone. I'll set the time zone manually. When I come back here and
> let OS X try to set the time zone automatically, it'll show the pin in
> Louisville, but will leave the time set to whatever the last time zone was.
> >
> > I've tried a few things: rebooting, zapping PRAM, making another account
> to test from, starting in Safe mode and testing. Nothing has helped.
> >
> > Oh, I also booted into recovery mode and running Disk Utility to verify
> the disk (it passed).
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas for what my next step should be? Could this be a
> hard drive issue? If so, how would I know?
> >
> > I'm still running Mavericks because my initial impression of Yosemite
> was 'butt ugly' and I didn't feel like fooling with it. I am planning on
> poking my eyes out with a stick and updating to El Capitan, because it is
> necessary for having iOS 9 share basic things like Notes with my laptop.
> >
> > Thanks for any tips,
> >
> > Bill
> > I feel like I'm using Windows.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[Bill Rising]

On Oct 2, 2015, at 18:14, Brian O'Neal  wrote:

> Check time zone. 
> 
> Uncheck auto update. Set the time and date, set time zone. 
> Now re check auto update. 

Yeah, I did that a bunch of times before diving into safe mode and the like.

Bill

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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[John Robinson]

Believe me, DiskWarrior is worth it's weight in gold.  I won't get this right 
but using your Mac over & over will cause files to lose their anchor.   I 
envision the directory to be the traffic cop, keeping tract of all files.  
After a time they have a fainting spell from all the clutter & they slow, begin 
signs of dementia & the directory is in need of CPR, once restored to health 
your drive skips down the Yellow Brick Road.   Now, the geeks can give you a 
real explanation, but I always go for the comic book explanation.   

John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 18:49, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Run DiskWarrior over the drive to rebuild the directory & you'll have a new 
>> machine
> 
> I guess I could do that, but it has the prerequisite of owning DiskWarrior.
> 
> What does rebuilding the directory do? 
> 
> When I looked around online, most people were saying that DiskWarrior was 
> necessary only if data had been lost off a failing hard drive. Nothing 
> indicates a hard drive failure---Disk Utility says that things are fine. My 
> cheap came-with-something-else utility (DiskTools Pro [1]) says things are 
> fine. Would DiskWarrior check for a failing drive or does it assume a failing 
> drive?
> 
> Bill
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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro losing its mind

[Bill Rising]

On Oct 2, 2015, at 18:49, John Robinson  wrote:

> Run DiskWarrior over the drive to rebuild the directory & you'll have a new 
> machine 

I guess I could do that, but it has the prerequisite of owning DiskWarrior.

What does rebuilding the directory do? 

When I looked around online, most people were saying that DiskWarrior was 
necessary only if data had been lost off a failing hard drive. Nothing 
indicates a hard drive failure---Disk Utility says that things are fine. My 
cheap came-with-something-else utility (DiskTools Pro [1]) says things are 
fine. Would DiskWarrior check for a failing drive or does it assume a failing 
drive?

Bill

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Re: [MacGroup] MACBook Power Cord

[Bill Micou]

What type? How old is Macbook?


Sent from my micro sub meson electronic component

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 Not A Joke...friend of mine is desperate to get a power cord... 
 
 BEGIN QUOTED PLEA
 
 Does anyone have a Macbook power cord they don't use anymore and would be 
 willing to sell me? Or barter, for... I don't know, dog-sitting, audio 
 editing, singing, accordion, audition prep help, karaoke song choice 
 consultation, vintage hairstyles or tutorials, maybe fixing you cocktails...? 
 My skill set is limited but fun. [Edit: CUPCAKES! I forgot cupcakes!]
 
 END QUOTED PLEA...
 
 If you can help drop me a line with a contact I can give her.  
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] MACBook Power Cord

[Richard D. Meadows]

Don’t ask me the tough ones…  I will get that info… or can I send your e-mail 
to her?  and just let you two chat it out?



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On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Bill Micou derby...@mac.com wrote:

 What type? How old is Macbook?
 
 
 Sent from my micro sub meson electronic component
 
 On Jun 23, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Richard D. Meadows rmead...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not A Joke...friend of mine is desperate to get a power cord... 
 
 BEGIN QUOTED PLEA
 
 Does anyone have a Macbook power cord they don't use anymore and would be 
 willing to sell me? Or barter, for... I don't know, dog-sitting, audio 
 editing, singing, accordion, audition prep help, karaoke song choice 
 consultation, vintage hairstyles or tutorials, maybe fixing you 
 cocktails...? My skill set is limited but fun. [Edit: CUPCAKES! I forgot 
 cupcakes!]
 
 END QUOTED PLEA...
 
 If you can help drop me a line with a contact I can give her.  
 
 
 Richard Meadows
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[MacGroup] MACBook Power Cord

[Richard D. Meadows]

Not A Joke...friend of mine is desperate to get a power cord... 

BEGIN QUOTED PLEA

Does anyone have a Macbook power cord they don't use anymore and would be 
willing to sell me? Or barter, for... I don't know, dog-sitting, audio editing, 
singing, accordion, audition prep help, karaoke song choice consultation, 
vintage hairstyles or tutorials, maybe fixing you cocktails...? My skill set is 
limited but fun. [Edit: CUPCAKES! I forgot cupcakes!]

END QUOTED PLEA...

If you can help drop me a line with a contact I can give her.  


Richard Meadows
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[MacGroup] MacBook Air

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I am considering getting a MacBook Air to replace my 6+ year old Macbook pro. I 
also have a fairly new iMac. I plan to use the Macbook air for travel. I can 
get an 11 or 13. Aside from a larger screen the 13 has a SDXC card slot. My 
camera uses an sd card for storage. Not sure I need this, what do you think?

The computer will be used to update web pages while traveling (I maintain web 
sites for several people and groups), do some basic editing of photos with 
Adobe Photo Shop Elements, email, and some web browsing.


There are upgrades and I want to know whether I should get the upgrades.

All models come with 1.3GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor which, for $150 I 
can upgrade to a 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz 
Why should I do this?

The basic model comes with 128GB of flash storage / for an additional $200 I 
can get 256GB of flash storage and for an additional $300 I can get 512GB of 
flash storage
How much do I really need?

I am going to upgrade the Memory from 4GB to 8GB - $100.

What upgrades do you think I need?

Thanks.

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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook Air

[Ed Wiser]

Harry my daughter has the 13 inch model. It the smallest that I would use for 
web or photo work. Storage always get the largest especially flash drives that 
are made on to the motherboard. 

You can use the i5 but is a light weight processor. 
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Haswell-Core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7-Which-is-right-for-you-475/

Photoshop even the lite version can be CPU intensive.  

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wrote:

 I am considering getting a MacBook Air to replace my 6+ year old Macbook pro. 
 I also have a fairly new iMac. I plan to use the Macbook air for travel. I 
 can get an 11 or 13. Aside from a larger screen the 13 has a SDXC card 
 slot. My camera uses an sd card for storage. Not sure I need this, what do 
 you think?
 The computer will be used to update web pages while traveling (I maintain web 
 sites for several people and groups), do some basic editing of photos with 
 Adobe Photo Shop Elements, email, and some web browsing.
 There are upgrades and I want to know whether I should get the upgrades.
 All models come with 1.3GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor which, for $150 
 I can upgrade to a 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz 
   Why should I do this?
 The basic model comes with 128GB of flash storage / for an additional $200 I 
 can get 256GB of flash storage and for an additional $300 I can get 512GB of 
 flash storage
   How much do I really need?
 I am going to upgrade the Memory from 4GB to 8GB - $100.
 What upgrades do you think I need?
 Thanks.
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[MacGroup] Macbook Pro Hard Drive decision

[Nora Probasco]

I have been considering replacing the hard drive in my Macbook Pro for
awhile. I saw this deal at Newegg and wanted to get some opinions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL092311Acm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL092311A-_-EMC-092311-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22136792-L0B

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[MacGroup] Macbook Pro Hard Drive decision

[Jonathan Fletcher]

That particular drive is an easy decision, Nora, since it won't fit in your 
MBP. 

Most (all?) laptops require 2.5 drives (some smaller) so you should be looking 
in the Laptop Drives section of newegg.

I would definitely go with a 7200 RPM drive and nothing slower. There are 
bigger drives but right now the largest 7200 2.5 is a 750 GB one like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136835

That particular one has a 5-year warrantee, making it an even better deal.

If you need more space than that, you can replace your optical drive with 
another hard drive (or Solid State Drive for much better performance) and get a 
bunch more space. 

Carrying the world around on your laptop may be akin to putting all your eggs 
in one basket, however, so you may just consider a large external drive for the 
stuff you don't need ALL the time.

Which MBP version do you have? 

j.


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 I have been considering replacing the hard drive in my Macbook Pro for 
 awhile. I saw this deal at Newegg and wanted to get some opinions:
 
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL092311Acm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL092311A-_-EMC-092311-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22136792-L0B



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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro Hard Drive decision

[Nelsn Helm]

I believe
WD callsdesktop HDs Caviar,
laptop HDs Scorpio

top of line is  enterprise
premium black
adequateblue
environmental   green   slow  cool

On Sep 23, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Nora Probasco wrote:

Duh, I knew it took 2.5... I have Apple MacBook Pro MA895LL/A  
15.4 Laptop.


Nora

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  
li...@fletcherdata.com wrote:
That particular drive is an easy decision, Nora, since it won't fit  
in your MBP.


Most (all?) laptops require 2.5 drives (some smaller) so you  
should be looking in the Laptop Drives section of newegg.


I would definitely go with a 7200 RPM drive and nothing slower.  
There are bigger drives but right now the largest 7200 2.5 is a  
750 GB one like this:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136835

That particular one has a 5-year warrantee, making it an even  
better deal.


If you need more space than that, you can replace your optical  
drive with another hard drive (or Solid State Drive for much better  
performance) and get a bunch more space.


Carrying the world around on your laptop may be akin to putting all  
your eggs in one basket, however, so you may just consider a large  
external drive for the stuff you don't need ALL the time.


Which MBP version do you have?

j.


On Sep 23, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Nora Probasco nproba...@gmail.com  
wrote:


 I have been considering replacing the hard drive in my Macbook  
Pro for awhile. I saw this deal at Newegg and wanted to get some  
opinions:


 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx? 
Item=N82E16822136792nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL092311Acm_mmc=EMC- 
IGNEFL092311A-_-EMC-092311-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22136792-L0B




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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro Hard Drive decision

[Rick Burnett]

This is not always the case. Many MacBook/Pro models have what Apple
terms user-replaceable hard drives (and RAM). I've had several
machines serviced with non-Apple hard drives in them.

Rick

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 If you change you internal HDD, Apple will not service your computer unless 
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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro Hard Drive decision

[Jonathan Fletcher]

Yes, hard drives are user-serviceable and Apple will not penalize you. As long 
as you don't do obvious damage when you do the swap, you're fine.

j.

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 This is not always the case. Many MacBook/Pro models have what Apple
 terms user-replaceable hard drives (and RAM). I've had several
 machines serviced with non-Apple hard drives in them.
 
 Rick
 
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 If you change you internal HDD, Apple will not service your computer unless 
 you put the original HD back.
 



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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Air

[Nora Probasco]

Thanks for the info, Marta!

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Marta Edie martae...@me.com wrote:

 Nora, you mentioned Mac-book-air in your last post. There (I was told) is
 one thing it does not have, a drive for Cds and DVDs, just in case you need
 that.

 Also, I do have those bluetooth magic mice, they enlarge everything by
 control scrolling. I help myself here in reading articles on the macs and/
 or writing emails or reading them, when the fonts are too small. It does
 the same thing that the hand movements do on ipad and iphone. I am sold on
 this mouse, also not cheap, $ 69.00 in Apple store. It takes 2AA batteries

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[MacGroup] Macbook Pro battery replacement

[Nora Probasco]

I need to replace the battery in my 15 Macbook Pro and Apple wants $129.
Has anyone had any experience ordering some of the off-brand batteries? I
have been burnt a few times on some off brands on other stuff. I am leaning
towards the Apple battery, however if there is a decent, cheaper off-brand I
might consider it. Any suggestions?

Nora

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Re: [MacGroup] Macbook Pro battery replacement

[John Stone]

Try OWC they might have some non Apple alternatives.

John

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Nora Probasco nproba...@gmail.com wrote:

 I need to replace the battery in my 15 Macbook Pro and Apple wants $129.
 Has anyone had any experience ordering some of the off-brand batteries? I
 have been burnt a few times on some off brands on other stuff. I am leaning
 towards the Apple battery, however if there is a decent, cheaper off-brand I
 might consider it. Any suggestions?

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[MacGroup] MacBook air sticker mod

[Ed Wiser]

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[MacGroup] MacBook and LCD projector connection

[Milt Tyree]

Is it still necessary (seems it used to be) to shut down a MacBook and the LCD 
projector before connecting? Or should the LCD be on stand-by and the MacBook 
in sleep mode? Or is it okay to connect the LCD to the MacBook adapter with 
both fired-up?

I'm asking because earlier this week, for the first time, I connected my Mac 
while it was running to an Epson LCD on stand-by. The MacBook's resolution 
automatically changed (as it should); same in reverse (put LCD on stand-by, 
disconnected, resolution adjusted). Everything seemed happy. I have a 15 
unibody MacBook Pro (OS 10.6.4). Just want to know if it's safe to do this, or 
if I was risking zapping the MBP's logic board or something else scary…

Many thanks for guidance.
Milt


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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook and LCD projector connection

[Lee Larson]

On Sep 19, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Milt Tyree wrote:

 Is it still necessary (seems it used to be) to shut down a MacBook and the 
 LCD projector before connecting? Or should the LCD be on stand-by and the 
 MacBook in sleep mode? Or is it okay to connect the LCD to the MacBook 
 adapter with both fired-up?
 
 I'm asking because earlier this week, for the first time, I connected my Mac 
 while it was running to an Epson LCD on stand-by. The MacBook's resolution 
 automatically changed (as it should); same in reverse (put LCD on stand-by, 
 disconnected, resolution adjusted). Everything seemed happy. I have a 15 
 unibody MacBook Pro (OS 10.6.4). Just want to know if it's safe to do this, 
 or if I was risking zapping the MBP's logic board or something else scary…


I use various projectors with my Macbook Pro nearly every day. I never shut the 
Mac down. It doesn't seem to hurt anything. Just to be sure I wasn't just being 
lucky, I checked the manual that came with the machine. This is from page 70 
concerning VGA connections.

1 Turn on the external display or projector.

2 Make sure the display cable is connected to the external projector or 
display. 

3 Connect the DVI to VGA adapter that came with your MacBook Pro to the VGA 
connector of the external display or projector, and then connect the adapter to 
your MacBook Pro. Your MacBook Pro automatically detects the external display.

4 Adjust the resolution on the external display by using the Displays pane of 
System Preferences or the Displays icon in the menu bar, if necessary.


Apparently Apple assumes you should keep the Mac turned on.





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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook and LCD projector connection

[Sandra Schreiber]

do you all turn your Macs (MacBook) off at night?   Sometimes I do, and 
sometimes I dont', and I don't know which is best.   Sandy
On Sep 19, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Lee Larson wrote:

On Sep 19, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Milt Tyree wrote:

 Is it still necessary (seems it used to be) to shut down a MacBook and the 
 LCD projector before connecting? Or should the LCD be on stand-by and the 
 MacBook in sleep mode? Or is it okay to connect the LCD to the MacBook 
 adapter with both fired-up?
 
 I'm asking because earlier this week, for the first time, I connected my Mac 
 while it was running to an Epson LCD on stand-by. The MacBook's resolution 
 automatically changed (as it should); same in reverse (put LCD on stand-by, 
 disconnected, resolution adjusted). Everything seemed happy. I have a 15 
 unibody MacBook Pro (OS 10.6.4). Just want to know if it's safe to do this, 
 or if I was risking zapping the MBP's logic board or something else scary…


I use various projectors with my Macbook Pro nearly every day. I never shut the 
Mac down. It doesn't seem to hurt anything. Just to be sure I wasn't just being 
lucky, I checked the manual that came with the machine. This is from page 70 
concerning VGA connections.

1 Turn on the external display or projector.

2 Make sure the display cable is connected to the external projector or 
display. 

3 Connect the DVI to VGA adapter that came with your MacBook Pro to the VGA 
connector of the external display or projector, and then connect the adapter to 
your MacBook Pro. Your MacBook Pro automatically detects the external display.

4 Adjust the resolution on the external display by using the Displays pane of 
System Preferences or the Displays icon in the menu bar, if necessary.


Apparently Apple assumes you should keep the Mac turned on.




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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook and LCD projector connection

[Ed Wiser]

I just close my lid and let my MacBook Pro sleep at night.

On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote:

 do you all turn your Macs (MacBook) off at night?   Sometimes I do, and 
 sometimes I dont', and I don't know which is best.   Sandy
 On Sep 19, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Lee Larson wrote:
 
 On Sep 19, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Milt Tyree wrote:
 
 Is it still necessary (seems it used to be) to shut down a MacBook and the 
 LCD projector before connecting? Or should the LCD be on stand-by and the 
 MacBook in sleep mode? Or is it okay to connect the LCD to the MacBook 
 adapter with both fired-up?
 
 I'm asking because earlier this week, for the first time, I connected my Mac 
 while it was running to an Epson LCD on stand-by. The MacBook's resolution 
 automatically changed (as it should); same in reverse (put LCD on stand-by, 
 disconnected, resolution adjusted). Everything seemed happy. I have a 15 
 unibody MacBook Pro (OS 10.6.4). Just want to know if it's safe to do this, 
 or if I was risking zapping the MBP's logic board or something else scary…
 
 
 I use various projectors with my Macbook Pro nearly every day. I never shut 
 the Mac down. It doesn't seem to hurt anything. Just to be sure I wasn't just 
 being lucky, I checked the manual that came with the machine. This is from 
 page 70 concerning VGA connections.
 
 1 Turn on the external display or projector.
 
 2 Make sure the display cable is connected to the external projector or 
 display. 
 
 3 Connect the DVI to VGA adapter that came with your MacBook Pro to the VGA 
 connector of the external display or projector, and then connect the adapter 
 to your MacBook Pro. Your MacBook Pro automatically detects the external 
 display.
 
 4 Adjust the resolution on the external display by using the Displays pane of 
 System Preferences or the Displays icon in the menu bar, if necessary.
 
 
 Apparently Apple assumes you should keep the Mac turned on.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook and LCD projector connection

[Lee Larson]

On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote:

 do you all turn your Macs (MacBook) off at night?   Sometimes I do, and 
 sometimes I dont', and I don't know which is best.   Sandy

I never turn my machines off. I have the hard drives set to sleep when 
possible and the monitors blank out after 15 minutes. With desktop machines, I 
just get up and walk away after I'm done working. With laptops, I usually close 
the lid. The only time my machines are rebooted is when it's required by a 
software or hardware upgrade, or (infrequently) by a crash.

The old advice that you should leave your machine on to do housekeeping during 
the wee hours is no longer valid. With Snow Leopard, Apple switched from cron 
to launchd for scheduled tasks. It is now smart enough to do the housekeeping 
the next time it gets the chance, if it's sleeping or off during the normally 
scheduled time.

I've been thinking about setting my machines to sleep overnight in order to 
save a little energy, but I run overnight jobs often enough that this seems it 
would be a nuisance because I'd always be turning it on and off.





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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook and LCD projector connection

[John Robinson]

Lee,

Thanks for letting us know about the change with Snow Leopard.  I didn't know, 
ahhh to be knowledgable is a wonderful thing.

John


On Sep 19, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Lee Larson wrote:

 On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote:
 
 do you all turn your Macs (MacBook) off at night?   Sometimes I do, and 
 sometimes I dont', and I don't know which is best.   Sandy
 
 I never turn my machines off. I have the hard drives set to sleep when 
 possible and the monitors blank out after 15 minutes. With desktop machines, 
 I just get up and walk away after I'm done working. With laptops, I usually 
 close the lid. The only time my machines are rebooted is when it's required 
 by a software or hardware upgrade, or (infrequently) by a crash.
 
 The old advice that you should leave your machine on to do housekeeping 
 during the wee hours is no longer valid. With Snow Leopard, Apple switched 
 from cron to launchd for scheduled tasks. It is now smart enough to do the 
 housekeeping the next time it gets the chance, if it's sleeping or off during 
 the normally scheduled time.
 
 I've been thinking about setting my machines to sleep overnight in order to 
 save a little energy, but I run overnight jobs often enough that this seems 
 it would be a nuisance because I'd always be turning it on and off.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook and LCD projector connection

[Sandra Schreiber]

Thanks for the input.and spreading the knowledgeI feel better about the 
fact that I usually just close the top of my laptop when I walk away
By the way, Marta, my husband and i are off to Berlin and Hamburg this weekend 
coming up! Sandy
On Sep 19, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Lee Larson wrote:

On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote:

 do you all turn your Macs (MacBook) off at night?   Sometimes I do, and 
 sometimes I dont', and I don't know which is best.   Sandy

I never turn my machines off. I have the hard drives set to sleep when 
possible and the monitors blank out after 15 minutes. With desktop machines, I 
just get up and walk away after I'm done working. With laptops, I usually close 
the lid. The only time my machines are rebooted is when it's required by a 
software or hardware upgrade, or (infrequently) by a crash.

The old advice that you should leave your machine on to do housekeeping during 
the wee hours is no longer valid. With Snow Leopard, Apple switched from cron 
to launchd for scheduled tasks. It is now smart enough to do the housekeeping 
the next time it gets the chance, if it's sleeping or off during the normally 
scheduled time.

I've been thinking about setting my machines to sleep overnight in order to 
save a little energy, but I run overnight jobs often enough that this seems it 
would be a nuisance because I'd always be turning it on and off.




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[MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

[richm...@qx.net]

My daughter's macbook has died yet again--2 months
out of a 4 month extra extended applecare. It is the
only Apple product we have ever had in all our many
computers since our first IIe which was a true lemon.
I kept hoping Apple would just replace it with
something more reliable, but they just kept putting
in parts. All dead now.

Anyway I am now shopping for a replacement. As I look
on ebay, the apple store, amazon etc, the macbook
model number--part number?--is really confusing. 

Is there a list anywhere which will tell me when a
particular model was produced? I havent found it. One
might think the Apple site? 

Any help would be much appreciated.

Ann Richmond



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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

[Ed Wiser]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Macintosh_models#2000s

Send email to sj...@apple.com and plead your case.
Steve does listen to the emails and things can happen to have it replaced.
State all the warranty repairs made to the computer and how you have been a 
loyal Apple user.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:04 AM
To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Subject: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

My daughter's macbook has died yet again--2 months
out of a 4 month extra extended applecare. It is the
only Apple product we have ever had in all our many
computers since our first IIe which was a true lemon.
I kept hoping Apple would just replace it with
something more reliable, but they just kept putting
in parts. All dead now.

Anyway I am now shopping for a replacement. As I look
on ebay, the apple store, amazon etc, the macbook
model number--part number?--is really confusing. 

Is there a list anywhere which will tell me when a
particular model was produced? I havent found it. One
might think the Apple site? 

Any help would be much appreciated.

Ann Richmond



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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

[Eric Hammond]

Apple has a thing about not keeping up with your mac repair history.  All they 
do is fix the issue at hand and they don't look back in history.  I sent a 
letter to sj...@apple.com telling them how my mac wasn't living up to what I 
had come to expect form a apple product and they replaced it.  Simple.  Since 
it's out of warranty, maybe they can't help, but it may be worth a try.

Eric
On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:04 AM, richm...@qx.net wrote:

 My daughter's macbook has died yet again--2 months
 out of a 4 month extra extended applecare. It is the
 only Apple product we have ever had in all our many
 computers since our first IIe which was a true lemon.
 I kept hoping Apple would just replace it with
 something more reliable, but they just kept putting
 in parts. All dead now.
 
 Anyway I am now shopping for a replacement. As I look
 on ebay, the apple store, amazon etc, the macbook
 model number--part number?--is really confusing. 
 
 Is there a list anywhere which will tell me when a
 particular model was produced? I havent found it. One
 might think the Apple site? 
 
 Any help would be much appreciated.
 
 Ann Richmond
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

[richm...@qx.net]

Thanks!
It's worth a try.
What was the subject line of your email to the Steve?
I suspect that would be important.


--- Original Message ---
From: Eric Hammond[mailto:eshamm...@mac.com]
Sent: 11/24/2009 12:12:48 PM
To  : macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Cc  : 
Subject : RE: Re: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

 Apple has a thing about not keeping up with your mac
repair history.  All they do is fix the issue at hand
and they don't look back in history.  I sent a letter
to sj...@apple.com telling them how my mac wasn't
living up to what I had come to expect form a apple
product and they replaced it.  Simple.  Since it's
out of warranty, maybe they can't help, but it may be
worth a try.

Eric
On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:04 AM, richm...@qx.net wrote:

 My daughter's macbook has died yet again--2 months
 out of a 4 month extra extended applecare. It is the
 only Apple product we have ever had in all our many
 computers since our first IIe which was a true lemon.
 I kept hoping Apple would just replace it with
 something more reliable, but they just kept putting
 in parts. All dead now.
 
 Anyway I am now shopping for a replacement. As I look
 on ebay, the apple store, amazon etc, the macbook
 model number--part number?--is really confusing. 
 
 Is there a list anywhere which will tell me when a
 particular model was produced? I havent found it. One
 might think the Apple site? 
 
 Any help would be much appreciated.
 
 Ann Richmond
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

[Eric Hammond]

It was MacBook Headache.  I explained that I had bought my first Mac in 2003 
and loved it, and that my current MacBook was in and out of the shop at least 
once every other month.  That was about it.  I sent my contact information and 
a day or so later a lady from Apple called me and asked a few questions.  A few 
days later they shipped a new MacBook to me.  

Eric 
On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:26 AM, richm...@qx.net wrote:

 
 Thanks!
 It's worth a try.
 What was the subject line of your email to the Steve?
 I suspect that would be important.
 
 
 --- Original Message ---
 From: Eric Hammond[mailto:eshamm...@mac.com]
 Sent: 11/24/2009 12:12:48 PM
 To  : macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Cc  : 
 Subject : RE: Re: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers
 
 Apple has a thing about not keeping up with your mac
 repair history.  All they do is fix the issue at hand
 and they don't look back in history.  I sent a letter
 to sj...@apple.com telling them how my mac wasn't
 living up to what I had come to expect form a apple
 product and they replaced it.  Simple.  Since it's
 out of warranty, maybe they can't help, but it may be
 worth a try.
 
 Eric
 On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:04 AM, richm...@qx.net wrote:
 
 My daughter's macbook has died yet again--2 months
 out of a 4 month extra extended applecare. It is the
 only Apple product we have ever had in all our many
 computers since our first IIe which was a true lemon.
 I kept hoping Apple would just replace it with
 something more reliable, but they just kept putting
 in parts. All dead now.
 
 Anyway I am now shopping for a replacement. As I look
 on ebay, the apple store, amazon etc, the macbook
 model number--part number?--is really confusing. 
 
 Is there a list anywhere which will tell me when a
 particular model was produced? I havent found it. One
 might think the Apple site? 
 
 Any help would be much appreciated.
 
 Ann Richmond
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

[David Harker]

Ann, you might try this site, you enter in the model number or serial and it
tells you which Mac you have.

Dave

On 11/24/09, richm...@qx.net richm...@qx.net wrote:

 My daughter's macbook has died yet again--2 months
 out of a 4 month extra extended applecare. It is the
 only Apple product we have ever had in all our many
 computers since our first IIe which was a true lemon.
 I kept hoping Apple would just replace it with
 something more reliable, but they just kept putting
 in parts. All dead now.

 Anyway I am now shopping for a replacement. As I look
 on ebay, the apple store, amazon etc, the macbook
 model number--part number?--is really confusing.

 Is there a list anywhere which will tell me when a
 particular model was produced? I havent found it. One
 might think the Apple site?

 Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook model numbers

[David Harker]

sorry, forgot to post the site link in the last mail.
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/identify-mac-serial.php

On 11/24/09, richm...@qx.net richm...@qx.net wrote:

 My daughter's macbook has died yet again--2 months
 out of a 4 month extra extended applecare. It is the
 only Apple product we have ever had in all our many
 computers since our first IIe which was a true lemon.
 I kept hoping Apple would just replace it with
 something more reliable, but they just kept putting
 in parts. All dead now.

 Anyway I am now shopping for a replacement. As I look
 on ebay, the apple store, amazon etc, the macbook
 model number--part number?--is really confusing.

 Is there a list anywhere which will tell me when a
 particular model was produced? I havent found it. One
 might think the Apple site?

 Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: [MacGroup] MacBook locking up

[Ed Wiser]

Here is how to set up a new user account on your Mac.
http://tinyurl.com/5zth26
You then log out from the Apple menu.
Then at the log in screen enter the name and password.
Then use the computer an see if the lock ups occur.

Like Eric Bradley said Ram can cause this type of problem.
I had that type of problem on my 12 PowerBook.
Thanks to Ward's diligence he was able to find it using the hardware
test disk and running it over night.

On a positive note I now have a new battery in my MacBook Pro. 
It was covered under the battery recall. The battery had swollen.
I was using my computer on day and noticed that the track pad button was
not working all the time. Turned the computer over and noticed that the
battery was barely raised up. Removed the battery and the track pad
button worked normally. Looked at the circuits in noticed that the
battery was right above the track pad. The swelling had caused the track
pad button to stop working. Now the strange thing is that in also stop's
a blue tooth mouse from working also.
But you can use a Wacom tablet to operate the computer. So went online
and setup an appointment at the Genius bar Wednesday night and they
replaced the battery. While I was there I also received the replacement
AC adapter for my iPhone 3G. Nice to get things for free. Apple get's a
lot of my money good to get some back some times.:)



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Subject: Re: [MacGroup] macbook locking up

Ed,

New User account?  On the mac or at the Genius bar?  The lockups are a  
new issue.  it only appeared after the logic board/speaker  
replacement.  And then only in the last two weeks.  All the repairs  
are under my applecare.

Another friend suggested formating the hard drive and starting over.   
Anyone ever done that?  I did it once on a PC and wanted to jump off a  
cliff it was so hard to get things back.  Drivers for this and that  
and software that wouldn't work with hardware.  Would that fix it,  
maybe?

Thanks for your help.  The last two weeks have been like having my old  
Gateway back.  If I don't figure it out soon I'll write what I suppose  
is ole Steve's office.

Eric
On Oct 23, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 When going to the Genius Bar bring all the paper work on all the
 various repairs to the MacBook.
 Has this been the same problem all the time? If so they are shooting
 in the dark.
 Have you created a new user account and used that account?
 This will let you see if it is a hardware or a software issue.
 If the lock up continue with the new user account you have a hardware
 issue.
 In that case send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and explain your issues.
 An how you are feeling after switching. You will get a response that
 should help.


 On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 A followup to the question I posed before (below):

 What do I tell the mac repair guy?  The lockups happen now and again.
 It may run for hours and then lockup.  Or it may only take a few key
 strokes.

 Since I've had 3 batteries, a power manager, logic board, speakers,
 new case, and now this, should demand a new one?  That's essentially
 what has happened so far.  Short of replacing the screen, video card,
 and ram I've got a new Mac.   I'll be honest, I love the little guy,
 but it has really hurt my opinion of mac and mac products.  I know
 that may get me kicked off this, but it's true.  Sorry, I'm
 frustrated.

 Eric
 On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up  
 several
 times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.  But
 at
 least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no spiny
 pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse (trackpad)
 just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it
 restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the power.
 When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I
 have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest  
 security
 update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

 Eric

 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/ 
 macgroup



 ___
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 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup

Re: [MacGroup] macbook locking up

[Eric Hammond]

A followup to the question I posed before (below):

What do I tell the mac repair guy?  The lockups happen now and again.   
It may run for hours and then lockup.  Or it may only take a few key  
strokes.

Since I've had 3 batteries, a power manager, logic board, speakers,  
new case, and now this, should demand a new one?  That's essentially  
what has happened so far.  Short of replacing the screen, video card,  
and ram I've got a new Mac.   I'll be honest, I love the little guy,  
but it has really hurt my opinion of mac and mac products.  I know  
that may get me kicked off this, but it's true.  Sorry, I'm frustrated.

Eric
On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up several
 times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.  But at
 least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no spiny
 pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse (trackpad)
 just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it
 restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the power.
 When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I
 have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest security
 update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

 Eric

 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



___
The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. 
Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

Re: [MacGroup] macbook locking up

[Ed Wiser]

When going to the Genius Bar bring all the paper work on all the  
various repairs to the MacBook.
Has this been the same problem all the time? If so they are shooting  
in the dark.
Have you created a new user account and used that account?
This will let you see if it is a hardware or a software issue.
If the lock up continue with the new user account you have a hardware  
issue.
In that case send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and explain your issues.
An how you are feeling after switching. You will get a response that  
should help.


On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 A followup to the question I posed before (below):

 What do I tell the mac repair guy?  The lockups happen now and again.
 It may run for hours and then lockup.  Or it may only take a few key
 strokes.

 Since I've had 3 batteries, a power manager, logic board, speakers,
 new case, and now this, should demand a new one?  That's essentially
 what has happened so far.  Short of replacing the screen, video card,
 and ram I've got a new Mac.   I'll be honest, I love the little guy,
 but it has really hurt my opinion of mac and mac products.  I know
 that may get me kicked off this, but it's true.  Sorry, I'm  
 frustrated.

 Eric
 On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up several
 times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.  But  
 at
 least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no spiny
 pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse (trackpad)
 just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it
 restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the power.
 When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I
 have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest security
 update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

 Eric

 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



___
The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. 
Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

Re: [MacGroup] macbook locking up

[Eric Hammond]

Ed,

New User account?  On the mac or at the Genius bar?  The lockups are a  
new issue.  it only appeared after the logic board/speaker  
replacement.  And then only in the last two weeks.  All the repairs  
are under my applecare.

Another friend suggested formating the hard drive and starting over.   
Anyone ever done that?  I did it once on a PC and wanted to jump off a  
cliff it was so hard to get things back.  Drivers for this and that  
and software that wouldn't work with hardware.  Would that fix it,  
maybe?

Thanks for your help.  The last two weeks have been like having my old  
Gateway back.  If I don't figure it out soon I'll write what I suppose  
is ole Steve's office.

Eric
On Oct 23, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 When going to the Genius Bar bring all the paper work on all the
 various repairs to the MacBook.
 Has this been the same problem all the time? If so they are shooting
 in the dark.
 Have you created a new user account and used that account?
 This will let you see if it is a hardware or a software issue.
 If the lock up continue with the new user account you have a hardware
 issue.
 In that case send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and explain your issues.
 An how you are feeling after switching. You will get a response that
 should help.


 On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 A followup to the question I posed before (below):

 What do I tell the mac repair guy?  The lockups happen now and again.
 It may run for hours and then lockup.  Or it may only take a few key
 strokes.

 Since I've had 3 batteries, a power manager, logic board, speakers,
 new case, and now this, should demand a new one?  That's essentially
 what has happened so far.  Short of replacing the screen, video card,
 and ram I've got a new Mac.   I'll be honest, I love the little guy,
 but it has really hurt my opinion of mac and mac products.  I know
 that may get me kicked off this, but it's true.  Sorry, I'm
 frustrated.

 Eric
 On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up  
 several
 times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.  But
 at
 least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no spiny
 pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse (trackpad)
 just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it
 restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the power.
 When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I
 have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest  
 security
 update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

 Eric

 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/ 
 macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



___
The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. 
Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

Re: [MacGroup] macbook locking up

[Profile]

Ed,

I had similar problems with an iMac that had software on it that was  
for a PowerPC instead of the Intel.   It mainly happened when I had  
iTunes open at the same time I had Now Contact open (the Calendar  
portion of Now Contact).   All the lockups stopped when I reformatted  
and installed current versions of everything, but I STILL cannot have  
Now Contact running at the same time as iTunes.   Once day I will have  
everything moved over to iCal and can get rid of Now Contact and  
hopefully I won't have to do the work around.

John


On Oct 23, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Ed,

 New User account?  On the mac or at the Genius bar?  The lockups are a
 new issue.  it only appeared after the logic board/speaker
 replacement.  And then only in the last two weeks.  All the repairs
 are under my applecare.

 Another friend suggested formating the hard drive and starting over.
 Anyone ever done that?  I did it once on a PC and wanted to jump off a
 cliff it was so hard to get things back.  Drivers for this and that
 and software that wouldn't work with hardware.  Would that fix it,
 maybe?

 Thanks for your help.  The last two weeks have been like having my old
 Gateway back.  If I don't figure it out soon I'll write what I suppose
 is ole Steve's office.

 Eric
 On Oct 23, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 When going to the Genius Bar bring all the paper work on all the
 various repairs to the MacBook.
 Has this been the same problem all the time? If so they are shooting
 in the dark.
 Have you created a new user account and used that account?
 This will let you see if it is a hardware or a software issue.
 If the lock up continue with the new user account you have a hardware
 issue.
 In that case send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and explain your  
 issues.
 An how you are feeling after switching. You will get a response that
 should help.


 On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 A followup to the question I posed before (below):

 What do I tell the mac repair guy?  The lockups happen now and  
 again.
 It may run for hours and then lockup.  Or it may only take a few key
 strokes.

 Since I've had 3 batteries, a power manager, logic board, speakers,
 new case, and now this, should demand a new one?  That's essentially
 what has happened so far.  Short of replacing the screen, video  
 card,
 and ram I've got a new Mac.   I'll be honest, I love the little guy,
 but it has really hurt my opinion of mac and mac products.  I know
 that may get me kicked off this, but it's true.  Sorry, I'm
 frustrated.

 Eric
 On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up
 several
 times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.  But
 at
 least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no spiny
 pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse  
 (trackpad)
 just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it
 restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the  
 power.
 When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I
 have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest
 security
 update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

 Eric

 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/
 macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/ 
 macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



___
The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. 
Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

Re: [MacGroup] macbook locking up

[B. Eric Bradley]

My PowerBook had that problem for the first year I had it (along with  
relentless kernel panics) and it actually was the RAM. MacMall sent  
the machine with a RAM upgrade that wasn't, as it turned out; the  
offbrand they installed didn't work, nor did the Viking or Kingston  
replacements I obtained. If you can lay hands on some RAM to test  
with, you might try that; it wouldn't be the first time a Mac got  
twitchy about what memory was installed in it. (I'm still using that  
PowerBook, btw; one of the memory slots failed and two keys on the  
keyboard are all but done for but I'm going to drive it for a few  
more months or until it drops, whichever comes first.)


On Oct 23, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Ed,

 New User account?  On the mac or at the Genius bar?  The lockups are a
 new issue.  it only appeared after the logic board/speaker
 replacement.  And then only in the last two weeks.  All the repairs
 are under my applecare.

 Another friend suggested formating the hard drive and starting over.
 Anyone ever done that?  I did it once on a PC and wanted to jump off a
 cliff it was so hard to get things back.  Drivers for this and that
 and software that wouldn't work with hardware.  Would that fix it,
 maybe?

 Thanks for your help.  The last two weeks have been like having my old
 Gateway back.  If I don't figure it out soon I'll write what I suppose
 is ole Steve's office.

 Eric
 On Oct 23, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 When going to the Genius Bar bring all the paper work on all the
 various repairs to the MacBook.
 Has this been the same problem all the time? If so they are shooting
 in the dark.
 Have you created a new user account and used that account?
 This will let you see if it is a hardware or a software issue.
 If the lock up continue with the new user account you have a hardware
 issue.
 In that case send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and explain your  
 issues.
 An how you are feeling after switching. You will get a response that
 should help.


 On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 A followup to the question I posed before (below):

 What do I tell the mac repair guy?  The lockups happen now and  
 again.
 It may run for hours and then lockup.  Or it may only take a few key
 strokes.

 Since I've had 3 batteries, a power manager, logic board, speakers,
 new case, and now this, should demand a new one?  That's essentially
 what has happened so far.  Short of replacing the screen, video  
 card,
 and ram I've got a new Mac.   I'll be honest, I love the little guy,
 but it has really hurt my opinion of mac and mac products.  I know
 that may get me kicked off this, but it's true.  Sorry, I'm
 frustrated.

 Eric
 On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up
 several
 times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.  But
 at
 least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no spiny
 pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse  
 (trackpad)
 just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it
 restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the  
 power.
 When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I
 have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest
 security
 update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

 Eric

 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/
 macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/ 
 macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



___
The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. 
Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

Re: [MacGroup] macbook locking up

[Eric Hammond]

Eric,

Maybe.  Just got a new logic board.  That means new slots. . . Maybe.

Eric
On Oct 23, 2008, at 6:12 PM, B. Eric Bradley wrote:

 My PowerBook had that problem for the first year I had it (along with
 relentless kernel panics) and it actually was the RAM. MacMall sent
 the machine with a RAM upgrade that wasn't, as it turned out; the
 offbrand they installed didn't work, nor did the Viking or Kingston
 replacements I obtained. If you can lay hands on some RAM to test
 with, you might try that; it wouldn't be the first time a Mac got
 twitchy about what memory was installed in it. (I'm still using that
 PowerBook, btw; one of the memory slots failed and two keys on the
 keyboard are all but done for but I'm going to drive it for a few
 more months or until it drops, whichever comes first.)


 On Oct 23, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Ed,

 New User account?  On the mac or at the Genius bar?  The lockups  
 are a
 new issue.  it only appeared after the logic board/speaker
 replacement.  And then only in the last two weeks.  All the repairs
 are under my applecare.

 Another friend suggested formating the hard drive and starting over.
 Anyone ever done that?  I did it once on a PC and wanted to jump  
 off a
 cliff it was so hard to get things back.  Drivers for this and that
 and software that wouldn't work with hardware.  Would that fix it,
 maybe?

 Thanks for your help.  The last two weeks have been like having my  
 old
 Gateway back.  If I don't figure it out soon I'll write what I  
 suppose
 is ole Steve's office.

 Eric
 On Oct 23, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 When going to the Genius Bar bring all the paper work on all the
 various repairs to the MacBook.
 Has this been the same problem all the time? If so they are shooting
 in the dark.
 Have you created a new user account and used that account?
 This will let you see if it is a hardware or a software issue.
 If the lock up continue with the new user account you have a  
 hardware
 issue.
 In that case send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and explain your
 issues.
 An how you are feeling after switching. You will get a response that
 should help.


 On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 A followup to the question I posed before (below):

 What do I tell the mac repair guy?  The lockups happen now and
 again.
 It may run for hours and then lockup.  Or it may only take a few  
 key
 strokes.

 Since I've had 3 batteries, a power manager, logic board, speakers,
 new case, and now this, should demand a new one?  That's  
 essentially
 what has happened so far.  Short of replacing the screen, video
 card,
 and ram I've got a new Mac.   I'll be honest, I love the little  
 guy,
 but it has really hurt my opinion of mac and mac products.  I know
 that may get me kicked off this, but it's true.  Sorry, I'm
 frustrated.

 Eric
 On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Eric Hammond wrote:

 Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up
 several
 times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.   
 But
 at
 least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no  
 spiny
 pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse
 (trackpad)
 just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it
 restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the
 power.
 When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I
 have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest
 security
 update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

 Eric

 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/
 macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/
 macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/ 
 macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
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 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

Re: [MacGroup] macbook locking up

[Ed Wiser]

Hard drive could be going out. There have been problems with their  
hard drives.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Eric Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up several
 times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.  But at
 least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no spiny
 pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse (trackpad)
 just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it
 restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the power.
 When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I
 have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest security
 update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

 Eric

 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup


___
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be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. 
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[MacGroup] macbook locking up

[Eric Hammond]

Over the last few days, my poor little mac book has locked up several  
times.  It has happened several times when iTunes was working.  But at  
least once while Clam X was looking for a virus.  There is no spiny  
pinwheel or anything.  It just stops.  Keyboard and mouse (trackpad)  
just quit working.  No command/alt/esc combo.  Nothing.  Once it  
restarted on its own, but more often, I have to hold down the power.   
When I had a PC, this was rather common, but in 6 years of macs, I  
have never had to do this.  This came about after the latest security  
update.  Has anyone else had this issue?  Any hints?

Eric

___
The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
be October 28 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. 
Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

[MacGroup] MacBook paper

[Ed Wiser]

Well for those who feel the Air is not small enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6yBo9NPkCQ



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Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

[Ed Wiser]

Jerry if you look to the left of their web page the have the MacBook Air
webpage already in their Disassembled special pages. I like the close up
pictures of resistors and chips sort of 
Neat for an old Tech like me.:)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry
Freeman
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:40 AM
To: Macintosh topics
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

they tend to not show the reassembly :) best...jf

On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 Kind of waiting for kodawarisan the Japanese site to do a tear apart.
 They do it right all the way apart then back together.

 http://www.kodawarisan.com/index.html



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Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

[Jerry Freeman]

:) odd, to start a tear down on a computer that actually belongs to  
apple. they only had the battery removed. the battery is unlike any  
battery i have ever seen. it is the approximate width of the air,  
thin, and slightly S shaped in the horizontal section. best...jf

On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Jim/Marcia Bennett wrote:

 Ah, darn it, they've pulled the pictures...

 Jim


 From: Jerry Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Macintosh topics macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:23:15 -0500
 To: Macintosh topics macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Subject: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

 http://tinyurl.com/yqzsnj best...jf



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Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

[Jim/Marcia Bennett]

Ah, darn it, they've pulled the pictures...

Jim


 From: Jerry Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Macintosh topics macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:23:15 -0500
 To: Macintosh topics macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Subject: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yqzsnj best...jf
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

[Ed Wiser]

Kind of waiting for kodawarisan the Japanese site to do a tear apart.
They do it right all the way apart then back together.

http://www.kodawarisan.com/index.html

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry
Freeman
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:45 AM
To: Macintosh topics
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

:) odd, to start a tear down on a computer that actually belongs to  
apple. they only had the battery removed. the battery is unlike any  
battery i have ever seen. it is the approximate width of the air,  
thin, and slightly S shaped in the horizontal section. best...jf

On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Jim/Marcia Bennett wrote:

 Ah, darn it, they've pulled the pictures...

 Jim



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Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

[Marta Edie]

Oh Ed, one of these days you wil have to sit down with me and open my  
mac book and explain its innards, but soon before my time on this  
planet is up. I am sitting here at Ft Knox hospital reading my mail and
Milton's Paradise Lost. This iPhone what a blast!
Marta

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2008, at 11:14, Ed Wiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jerry if you look to the left of their web page the have the MacBook  
 Air
 webpage already in their Disassembled special pages. I like the  
 close up
 pictures of resistors and chips sort of
 Neat for an old Tech like me.:)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry
 Freeman
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:40 AM
 To: Macintosh topics
 Subject: Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

 they tend to not show the reassembly :) best...jf

 On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 Kind of waiting for kodawarisan the Japanese site to do a tear apart.
 They do it right all the way apart then back together.

 http://www.kodawarisan.com/index.html



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
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 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup




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Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

[Jerry Freeman]

they tend to not show the reassembly :) best...jf

On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 Kind of waiting for kodawarisan the Japanese site to do a tear apart.
 They do it right all the way apart then back together.

 http://www.kodawarisan.com/index.html



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Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

[Ed Wiser]

I did the same with my iPod Touch Wednesday taking my wife to a doctors
appointment.
Baptist East has a great WiFi connection.:)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marta
Edie
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:40 AM
To: Macintosh topics
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

Oh Ed, one of these days you wil have to sit down with me and open my  
mac book and explain its innards, but soon before my time on this  
planet is up. I am sitting here at Ft Knox hospital reading my mail and
Milton's Paradise Lost. This iPhone what a blast!
Marta

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2008, at 11:14, Ed Wiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jerry if you look to the left of their web page the have the MacBook  
 Air
 webpage already in their Disassembled special pages. I like the  
 close up
 pictures of resistors and chips sort of
 Neat for an old Tech like me.:)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry
 Freeman
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:40 AM
 To: Macintosh topics
 Subject: Re: [MacGroup] macbook air tear down

 they tend to not show the reassembly :) best...jf

 On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:

 Kind of waiting for kodawarisan the Japanese site to do a tear apart.
 They do it right all the way apart then back together.

 http://www.kodawarisan.com/index.html



 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be February 26 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup




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 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup




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[MacGroup] macbook air tear down

[Jerry Freeman]

http://tinyurl.com/yqzsnj best...jf



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[MacGroup] MacBook set-up problems

[Alex Whitman]

I am trying to set up my new (refurbished) MacBook (with 10.5), and I want
to copy everything over from my G4 iBook (running 10.4.11) but there is a
glitch. I shut down the iBook, connected the firewire cable to both
machines, and restarted the iBook holding down the T key. The big firewire
symbol appears on the iBook screen, but the MacBook gives this error
message:
There are no versions of Mac OS X available on your old Mac.
You can only transfer information from a Mac that has OS X installed.
Click Continue to keep trying, or click Cancel to stop the transferring.

Do they really mean it has to be the same version of OS X?

The cable worked a few months ago to transfer files between a G4 iMac and an
intel Mini and hasn't been abused since then. I know the iBook is working as
I am writing this message on it. Any ideas will be most gratefully
appreciated.

Alex Whitman
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[MacGroup] MacBook set-up problems

[Jerry Freeman]

you repair permission on the ibook g4 10.4x? 10.5 does not support  
classic, hence will not transfer classic located within 10.4. ie  
continue to keep trying. if that doesn't work you could transfer by  
hand in target disk mode. best...jf

On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

 I am trying to set up my new (refurbished) MacBook (with 10.5), and  
 I want to copy everything over from my G4 iBook (running 10.4.11)  
 but there is a glitch. I shut down the iBook, connected the firewire  
 cable to both machines, and restarted the iBook holding down the T  
 key. The big firewire symbol appears on the iBook screen, but the  
 MacBook gives this error message:

 There are no versions of Mac OS X available on your old Mac.
 You can only transfer information from a Mac that has OS X installed.
 Click Continue to keep trying, or click Cancel to stop the  
 transferring.

 Do they really mean it has to be the same version of OS X?

 The cable worked a few months ago to transfer files between a G4  
 iMac and an intel Mini and hasn't been abused since then. I know the  
 iBook is working as I am writing this message on it. Any ideas will  
 be most gratefully appreciated.

 Alex Whitman
 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be January 22 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
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 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

[MacGroup] MacBook set-up problems

[Alex Whitman]

Thanks Jerry, but repairing permissions hasn't worked. I don't think I've
ever used classic but who knows. I'll keep trying.
Alex

On Dec 5, 2007 2:53 PM, Jerry Freeman  x12 at insightbb.com wrote:

 you repair permission on the ibook g4 10.4x? 10.5 does not support
 classic, hence will not transfer classic located within 10.4. ie
 continue to keep trying. if that doesn't work you could transfer by
 hand in target disk mode. best...jf

 On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

  I am trying to set up my new (refurbished) MacBook (with 10.5), and
  I want to copy everything over from my G4 iBook (running 10.4.11)
  but there is a glitch. I shut down the iBook, connected the firewire
  cable to both machines, and restarted the iBook holding down the T
  key. The big firewire symbol appears on the iBook screen, but the
  MacBook gives this error message:
 
  There are no versions of Mac OS X available on your old Mac.
  You can only transfer information from a Mac that has OS X installed.
  Click Continue to keep trying, or click Cancel to stop the
  transferring.
 
  Do they really mean it has to be the same version of OS X?
 
  The cable worked a few months ago to transfer files between a G4
  iMac and an intel Mini and hasn't been abused since then. I know the
  iBook is working as I am writing this message on it. Any ideas will
  be most gratefully appreciated.
 
  Alex Whitman
  ___
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  be January 22 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
  Posting address: MacGroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
  Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

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[MacGroup] MacBook set-up problems

[Ed Wiser]

You need to make one the target and the other the source. Open  
Migration Assistant on the MacBook. Follow instructions. Start the  
source disk?after connecting Fire Wire with the T key held down.



On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

 I am trying to set up my new (refurbished) MacBook (with 10.5), and  
 I want to copy everything over from my G4 iBook (running 10.4.11)  
 but there is a glitch. I shut down the iBook, connected the firewire  
 cable to both machines, and restarted the iBook holding down the T  
 key. The big firewire symbol appears on the iBook screen, but the  
 MacBook gives this error message:

 There are no versions of Mac OS X available on your old Mac.
 You can only transfer information from a Mac that has OS X installed.
 Click Continue to keep trying, or click Cancel to stop the  
 transferring.

 Do they really mean it has to be the same version of OS X?

 The cable worked a few months ago to transfer files between a G4  
 iMac and an intel Mini and hasn't been abused since then. I know the  
 iBook is working as I am writing this message on it. Any ideas will  
 be most gratefully appreciated.

 Alex Whitman
 ___
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 be January 22 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
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[MacGroup] MacBook set-up problems

[Alex Whitman]

Yep, I did that. It's the second step after turning the MacBook on for the
very first time and following the set up instructions. It just doesn't
recognize anything on the iBook. I'm going to try making an old G4 iMac the
target and if that doesn't work I will call Apple tomorrow.
I know I can set it up without transferring my settings but this is a major
purchase and it should work as advertised.

Alex

On 12/5/07, Ed Wiser wiserone1 at gmail.com wrote:

 You need to make one the target and the other the source. Open
 Migration Assistant on the MacBook. Follow instructions. Start the source
 disk?after connecting Fire Wire with the T key held down.


 On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

 I am trying to set up my new (refurbished) MacBook (with 10.5), and I want
 to copy everything over from my G4 iBook (running 10.4.11) but there is a
 glitch. I shut down the iBook, connected the firewire cable to both
 machines, and restarted the iBook holding down the T key. The big firewire
 symbol appears on the iBook screen, but the MacBook gives this error
 message:

 There are no versions of Mac OS X available on your old Mac.
 You can only transfer information from a Mac that has OS X installed.
 Click Continue to keep trying, or click Cancel to stop the transferring.


 Do they really mean it has to be the same version of OS X?


 The cable worked a few months ago to transfer files between a G4 iMac and
 an intel Mini and hasn't been abused since then. I know the iBook is working
 as I am writing this message on it. Any ideas will be most gratefully
 appreciated.


 Alex Whitman
  ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be January 22 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup




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[MacGroup] MacBook set-up problems

[Ward Oldham]

Alex,

I would call Apple technical support.

http://www.apple.com/support/contact/

You may also bring both laptops to the Genius Bar and have them  
troubleshoot the problem for free.  You will need to make a  
reservation first.

http://concierge.apple.com/store/R264

Ward Oldham


On Dec 5, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

 Yep, I did that. It's the second step after turning the MacBook on  
 for the very first time and following the set up instructions. It  
 just doesn't recognize anything on the iBook. I'm going to try  
 making an old G4 iMac the target and if that doesn't work I will  
 call Apple tomorrow.

 I know I can set it up without transferring my settings but this is  
 a major purchase and it should work as advertised.

 Alex

 On 12/5/07, Ed Wiser wiserone1 at gmail.com wrote:
 You need to make one the target and the other the source. Open  
 Migration Assistant on the MacBook. Follow instructions. Start the  
 source disk?after connecting Fire Wire with the T key held down.



 On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

 I am trying to set up my new (refurbished) MacBook (with 10.5),  
 and I want to copy everything over from my G4 iBook (running  
 10.4.11) but there is a glitch. I shut down the iBook, connected  
 the firewire cable to both machines, and restarted the iBook  
 holding down the T key. The big firewire symbol appears on the  
 iBook screen, but the MacBook gives this error message:


 There are no versions of Mac OS X available on your old Mac.
 You can only transfer information from a Mac that has OS X installed.
 Click Continue to keep trying, or click Cancel to stop the  
 transferring.


 Do they really mean it has to be the same version of OS X?


 The cable worked a few months ago to transfer files between a G4  
 iMac and an intel Mini and hasn't been abused since then. I know  
 the iBook is working as I am writing this message on it. Any ideas  
 will be most gratefully appreciated.


 Alex Whitman
 ___
 The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
 be January 22 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
 Posting address: MacGroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup



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[MacGroup] MacBook set-up problems

[Alex Whitman]

Thanks, Ward. I have made an appointment at the genius bar Friday. After it
couldn't read the iMac or the Mini either, I tried setting it up without the
other computers. The next step is choosing a wireless network. This resulted
in a spinning beachball that still hasn't quit. I give up. See you Friday.

On 12/5/07, Ward Oldham woldham at insightbb.com wrote:

 Alex,

 I would call Apple technical support.


 http://www.apple.com/support/contact/


 You may also bring both laptops to the Genius Bar and have them
 troubleshoot the problem for free.  You will need to make a reservation
 first.


 http://concierge.apple.com/store/R264


 Ward Oldham



 On Dec 5, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

 Yep, I did that. It's the second step after turning the MacBook on for the
 very first time and following the set up instructions. It just doesn't
 recognize anything on the iBook. I'm going to try making an old G4 iMac the
 target and if that doesn't work I will call Apple tomorrow.

 I know I can set it up without transferring my settings but this is a
 major purchase and it should work as advertised.


 Alex

 On 12/5/07, Ed Wiser wiserone1 at gmail.com wrote:
 
  You need to make one the target and the other the source. Open
  Migration Assistant on the MacBook. Follow instructions. Start the source
  disk?after connecting Fire Wire with the T key held down.
 
 
  On Dec 5, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:
 
  I am trying to set up my new (refurbished) MacBook (with 10.5), and I
  want to copy everything over from my G4 iBook (running 10.4.11) but
  there is a glitch. I shut down the iBook, connected the firewire cable to
  both machines, and restarted the iBook holding down the T key. The big
  firewire symbol appears on the iBook screen, but the MacBook gives this
  error message:
 
  There are no versions of Mac OS X available on your old Mac.
  You can only transfer information from a Mac that has OS X installed.
  Click Continue to keep trying, or click Cancel to stop the
  transferring.
 
 
  Do they really mean it has to be the same version of OS X?
 
 
  The cable worked a few months ago to transfer files between a G4 iMac
  and an intel Mini and hasn't been abused since then. I know the iBook is
  working as I am writing this message on it. Any ideas will be most
  gratefully appreciated.
 
 
  Alex Whitman
   ___
  The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
  be January 22 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
  Posting address: MacGroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
  Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
 
 
 
 
  ___
  The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will
  be January 22 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
  Posting address: MacGroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
  Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
 
 

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[MacGroup] MacBook Pro with SSD drive test

[Ed Wiser]

http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/11/the-first-macbook-pro-with-a-64gb-ssd/

Above is a peek in to the future of hard drives. 

[MacGroup] MacBook Pro with SSD drive test

[Stuart Urbahns]

Thats funny I was just reading that after seeing it on digg. Very  
awesome. I can't wait for the day its easily affordible.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 11, 2007, at 8:02 AM, Ed Wiser wiserone1 at gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.ryanblock.com/2007/11/the-first-macbook-pro-with-a-64gb- 
 ssd/

 Above is a peek in to the future of hard drives.

 ___
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 Posting address: MacGroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup

[MacGroup] macbook rev. D

[Jerry Freeman]

without much fanfare apple released the macbook rev. D last week with  
decent bumps to the cpu (Santa Rosa), systems bus (800MHz), increased  
installed ram capacity (to 4G), better ventilation (larger rear port),  
and an Intel GMA X3100 graphics card which uses less power and runs  
cooler.

GMA's (graphics media accelerator) have no on-card ram. they 'share'  
system ram using the bus/cpu which may impact the performance of  
graphics heavy applications. something to be aware of and a deal  
breaker for me unless proven otherwise.

if anyone purchases the macbook rev. D, i would be interested in your  
personal experience in imovie, finalcut, photoshop etc. best...jf

[MacGroup] macbook rev. D

[Matt Frost]

I saw this link on MacRumors.   Should give a general idea how the  
performance increase is.

http://www.primatelabs.ca/blog/2007/11/macbook-performance- 
november-2007/

Hopefully they'll add these things to the Mini, cuz probably shortly  
after the MacWorld conference, I'll buy one. 
  

[MacGroup] macbook rev. D

[Jerry Freeman]

the few bench test results i have seen have been as expected. the  
problem is 3D artifacts after heavy processor demand. apple appears to  
have (re)moved the applicable technote. best...jf

On Nov 8, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Matt Frost wrote:

 I saw this link on MacRumors.   Should give a general idea how the
 performance increase is.

 http://www.primatelabs.ca/blog/2007/11/macbook-performance-
 november-2007/

 Hopefully they'll add these things to the Mini, cuz probably shortly
 after the MacWorld conference, I'll buy one.

[MacGroup] macbook pro-gold

[Jerry Freeman]

the retailers tell me i missed thanksgiving, so here's one for the  
discerning holiday list. best...jf

http://technabob.com/blog/2007/10/05/gold-macbook-pro-finished-looks-amazing/

or http://tinyurl.com/2txqrl

[MacGroup] MacBook

[Robert Klein]

I am in the market for a lightly-used MacBook (no non-Intel laptops).
Anybody have one for sale?

Robert
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[MacGroup] MacBook Pro question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I recently purchased a new macbook pro. I want to install Windows XP for
no other reason than I CAN!

A few months ago there was a discussion about the software needed to
install windows. If I remember there are two different software packages
which enable one to install windows.

Parallels and Boot Camp.

Which, in your opinons, is best? What are the advantages of one over the
other? How much do they cost?

TIA

Harry