Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Teresa, Copy and paste works everywhere, Cut and Paste only works within documents where the Undo feature is available. The reason Cut and Paste is not available for moving files is to protect against loss of data should the computer crash during such an operation. I would say there is as good as zero chance that Apple will change this. Cheers, Anne On Jun 30, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating by form field and text
I have Google set as my default page, as I do not have page summary or auto reading activated VoiceOver automatically now moves the keyboard focus to the google search box on the web page. However if you ever want to go directly to the google search box on the toolbar next to the place where you enter web addresses (URL) just press command + option + F (thank you Mary for that tip) On 30 Jun 2010, at 05:58, carlene knight wrote: Hi: For some reason, when loading Google I always land on the form field so I can edit the search. Maybe it's because I turned off the summary when the page loads feature so Vo doesn't read the whole page automatically. It simply loads on the form field. Hope that helps. On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Alfredo, I only need a couple of key strokes to get to the search box in google. First, you should know that my quick nav is on. So when safari loads the page, I first use my up and right arrows to select forms in the web rotor. Then I hit the down arrow. The first place I land is the search box. I Then can type what I want and hit enter or go down arrow again to the search or I'm feeling lucky buttons. Having been a jaws user for a number of years, I do understand the convenience of simply hitting the f key and landing on your form field, but thing about this. With quick nav, you may navigate the web one-handed as any sighted person can do with a mouse. I find that highly liberating as I feel it requires less effort on my part. Friendly, Chris On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alfredo wrote: The rotor utility is not efficient enough for me, I hate to make a comparison but with jaws I get to a text edit field, like the google webpage one, automatically or by pressing the f key. With voice over in safari, when I go to the google webpage I have to use the VO keys along with the right arrow key several times, about 4 or 5, to get to the text edit field. The safari way requires more key strokes, if I could remove key strokes then better. I could use the web item rotor and the of to forms, and then the text edit field but I think this requires the same number of keystrokes. Maybe as I get used to the mac I will get better and be able to find a way o do this. I will try grouping mode to see if this helps. Should the voice over cursor be focus on the google search field when i load the google web page? It does on other pages, like the gmail web page. Maybe if I turn off automatic speaking of webpages when they load. Thank for clarifying the thing about the multiple tabs, I search online, on google, and only found one solution for this, and i think it was because of safari 5 extensions, which I currently do not have. With everyone saying that it caused them trouble I will stay away from it for another month or so. Thanks again for the response. alfredo Chris Moore wrote: Is the form item in the rota not efficient enough for you? (you can create a short cut to toggle between DOM and group mode) as for text elements , have you tried surfing in grouping mode?when you mention tabs, do you mean they are automatically open with the web pages loaded of your choice? Not that I am aware of maybe as Safari 5 has been opened up someone might develop an add on. for now you will have to press command + T for a new tab. and then use control + tab to cycle through them. On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:08, Alfredo wrote: I am going through the online tutorial with voice over and am hitting some bumps in the way. 1. Can you navigate the web by form field like in jaws? In jaws you just clicked the “f” key and you would land on a form field, such as an edit box, radio button, or button. 2. Is there a way to navigate text element by text element, sometimes it would be useful just to get to the text section of a webpage, especially ones that contain many links. Is there a hot key to navigate text element by text element on the web? 3. I was reading the select multiple items section and tried it on the Voice over utilities, VO + F8, and went into his web section, and went to the web rotor popup menu. I wanted to select multiple items or deselect multiple items but I could not. Plus VO does not tell you if the checkbox on the popup menu is on or off, even when I pressed VO + f8. Can anyone shine a light on this? I can live with having to close the menu for every selected Item I want but it would be more convenient to just select all items I want then close the popup menu. 4. Is there a way to set up multiple tabs upon starting safari? I had multiple tabs for my internet explorer on windows since this way I have quick access to my bank account webpage, phone bill web page, Google search, Gmail, NFL website, book share, and others. Does anyone know how to do this? 6. Is there a way to activate a link from within the web item rotor? Like for example, instead of just going to
Re: saytext is available
Well I kind of figured it would have at least read random words I did it to see if it would even pick up anything even if it wasn't sensable On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Neil James wrote: Yes, because it is a cross word puzzle. What did you expect? Neil - Original Message - From: Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:49 PM Subject: Re: saytext is available I dont' really have any good scanning matterial but so far I've scanned a crossword puzzle probably not the best and it came out looking like crap it is free On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:38 AM, Simon F wrote: So how are you finding it using the iPhone 4? Any trouble with the signal pickup? And how is the usability!? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wanger Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:47 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available I just tried it on the new iPhone 4 and it works. It beeps when the document is in focus and the camera is steady; best done with two hands unless you've got a very steady hand, and it takes the picture. OCR doesn't take a terribly long time. The quality of lighting in the room is a big deal. When I first scanned I had poor results but then moved to somewhat better lighting and could read the letter in front of me with a fair amount of errors. I'm not after perfection though, just after something that can give me enough information to make heads or tails out of things. I think that if I'm using it with better lighting it will be great. On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: hi listers, finally, saytext is their. head to the app store and put In the surch box, saytext doc scanner. I tested it with iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better luck than me. regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
that issue has been there for as long as I can remember On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
I don't think apple will change it. It would be nice but I sopy and then keep the ros selected until I know they are there and then they are gone. a 3 step process but it works. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: that issue has been there for as long as I can remember On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
hi; If you want a version of Cut you can use temrinal commands, look up basic file movement using terminal on the mac. mike On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't think apple will change it. It would be nice but I sopy and then keep the ros selected until I know they are there and then they are gone. a 3 step process but it works. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: that issue has been there for as long as I can remember On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
yes which would be the mv command as such mv source file destination file On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:44 AM, michael babcock wrote: hi; If you want a version of Cut you can use temrinal commands, look up basic file movement using terminal on the mac. mike On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't think apple will change it. It would be nice but I sopy and then keep the ros selected until I know they are there and then they are gone. a 3 step process but it works. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: that issue has been there for as long as I can remember On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: vmware question about keyboard grab
Yeah you can, but I find that vo screws up the keyboard of the VM machine which means I either Have to use a usb key board or as you said turn vo off which gives me full keyboard functionality -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:00 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: vmware question about keyboard grab Hi all, I want to know if I am able to have vmware fusion and voiceover running at the same time without having to shut voiceover off jsut to get the keyboard tow rok. zi'm trying to install open solaris and part of the accessible install instructions says to arrow down 6 times and then press enter, but I don't see the highlighter in the menuy. all it does is go into an endless loop to coming back to that menu. any help is appreciated -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: saytext is available
Gf, I'd be trying to use it on pc / lcd screens for work both comuters and probably phones as well. Anything that can help would be good. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2010 4:52 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available why would you give up when trying to take a picture of an lcd display. that's your fault. try paper with typed writing on it? that may work better. If you use the program for what it was intended, it may work better for you? lol What a novel idea! GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: I wanted to do something crazy and took a picture of the lcd screen of my edirol r09 and to my surprise it focused in on the display, took the picture and came out looking like garbage. I give up On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and put in the surch box, saytext doc scanner. I tested it with iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better luck than me. regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
RE: saytext is available
The iPhone 4 is a 5 megapicsal camera but your right, it's not a karlzyse optics lens like the cameras in the n86 and othe r devices used with the knfb mobile reader. These cameras do make a differenece I can't wait to see what the n8 with it's 12mp camera does with knfb reader mobile. The 8mp cam is great, what would a 12 be like. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2010 5:52 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available Using a scanner for OCR is old hat. I think if a stand was made available for the iPhone to fit into then the results would be better. The distance would be correct and the picture would be steady. The Iphone camera does not have image stabilisation and does not have very good auto focus and auto zoom. The camera was not designed for OCR in mind unlike the ones you get from Humanware. The resolution on the 3GS is only 3.2 pixel too. As the camera improves on the iPhone with future models and the processor becomes more powerful to enable more complex functions it will be then that we will see improved OCR on the iPhone. But as I have said before this app is great considering it is free and the hardware it is running on. On 29 Jun 2010, at 18:18, Cody the issue is that the entire paper doesn't fit nicely inside the camera lense, and there are things around like other fixtures, a hand, maybe a table with a pattern or lines that the ocr might interpret as text, thats why this is not a good idea. that is why a scanner can do a better job On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, clarence griffin wrote: maybe the camera isn't getting the light it needs to focus or maybe the print is not clear enough. who knows. there are so many things that it could be. Maybe the type of paper. Maybe there are images on the paper behind the text that could be throwing it off. It could be lots of things. the font of the text could be another thing. For a free program folks, this thing can really go some ware. Luck its not me. I would charge all you complaining bastards for all the hard work. I figure if I am going to get complained at, I might as well get paid for it. lol. But yeah folks, lets help this developer to help us. Write him with ideas and don't wine about how it doesn't work. Its free for crying out loud and we should be thankful that there are people willing to take time to do something like this, and not charge us out the but for it like other people. GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah
RE: saytext is available
Could it be that your finger on the screen tilts the phone a different way that makes the image more lear to the sensors -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John André Netland Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2010 7:33 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available Honestly, I don't know why, but there is a difference in my results when I hold a finger on the screen while finding the correct position. Smile. On 29. juni 2010, at 19.01, clarence griffin wrote: What would holding your finger on the upper part of the screen do? is that needed for it to work? Just wondering. GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi, I got this to work a couple of times automatically on my 3GS by holding one finger on the upper part of the screen after tapping Take Picture and while changing the distance to the page. There are 3 sounds heard, a high frequency repeated heard, probably auto focus finding edges and text, the camera sound and the iPHone's window sound when it opens a new window. I heard the repeated sound a couple of times, and the camera sound when the app was satisfied and started processing the scan. I'm not sure about the font size, but it was the small paper manual for Apple wireless keyboard, which is a pretty small one. Probably why the app found the best position to be about 1 foot from the page. It's also possible to do the same manually by tapping the Camera button, but then you have to be absolutely sure the camera are at the correct distance. Needless to say, the lightning is the most important part, in my case some wonderful norwegian daylight. Smile. With a little patience and technique, I'm sure this can be a great tool. Cheers, John André On 29. juni 2010, at 15.01, Chris Moore wrote: ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better results with this document. Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. This is very exciting though. On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. -- Buddy
Re: VO responsiveness
Hi, Webkit is not as much a browser as the underlying engine of Safari, actually. The official version of Safari is already using Webkit, however if you use the nightly builds of Webkit you will have the latest fixes which is why a lot of the bugs people encounter when using the Official Safari version are often fixed in the latest Webkit. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:39 AM, Kim Thurman wrote: Yes it is. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VO responsiveness Hi, I've never tried webkit before. I know that's what runs Safari, but is Webkit a web browser also? Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I'm talking about the Mac, but I could be hallucinating. LOL! It seems more responsiveness in Webkit to me. On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Do you mean on the Mack or the Ipod Touch, because if you're talking about the Itouch, it seems a lot more responsive. But if you're talking about the Mack, it seems the same as it ever was. Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: Hi everyone: Does VO seem more responsive and snappy, or is it my imagination? It seems to have lost some sluggishness since the most recent build. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Hi, Just set Webkit to the default in Safari Preferences so that every time you open a link or whatever, it will use Webkit. You will have to use the Webkit icon to open Webkit, though, as it is a separate application but uses Safari. It just switches out the engine with a newer up-to-date engine when using it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Ah. Thanks for that. I forgot avout that little trick. Thanks for that. On Jun 30, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just set Webkit to the default in Safari Preferences so that every time you open a link or whatever, it will use Webkit. You will have to use the Webkit icon to open Webkit, though, as it is a separate application but uses Safari. It just switches out the engine with a newer up-to-date engine when using it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is not likely to go awyay... Cheers, Kaare. On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Facebook Question using VO
Has anyone figured out how to find the hide button that will get rid of all the yoville, farmville, fishville, zooville and all those other villes driving me nuts? Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Facebook Question using VO
I don't think there is a single button that will hide all those things. I think you have to look at each request and choose the button that says don't allow this application. It took me a while but I finally got rid of all mine. Now I just get one whenever they get a new game or something. Using the m.facebook.com site helps too. Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, Both now and forever. Amen. On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Has anyone figured out how to find the hide button that will get rid of all the yoville, farmville, fishville, zooville and all those other villes driving me nuts? Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
if a person cannot cut and paste without creating 5000 aliases, then they probably shouldn't be using a computer :p /*sarcasm off*? On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is not likely to go awyay... Cheers, Kaare. On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS. As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead. Teresa On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is not likely to go awyay... Cheers, Kaare. On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Facebook Question using VO
Hello there Kev, Using the main facebook site fills your screen reader with crap. Try pointing your web browser at: http://m.facebook.com this is the mobile version of facebook so contains much less clutter. If you still wish to use facebook chat, then may I suggest connecting to it either via iChat, Adium or AOL Instant Messenger. Regards Your UK buddy. On 30 Jun 2010, at 12:17, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Has anyone figured out how to find the hide button that will get rid of all the yoville, farmville, fishville, zooville and all those other villes driving me nuts? Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
RE: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
There is actually a technical reason, or there was, at one point. If you cut/paste a file, that should be a move of the file. Except, if you cut/paste to another hard drive, in which case, instead of a move, the Finder must perform a copy to the new drive, then delete the original. Supposedly, there was some complexity in having the Finder always detect which process was needed, and still account for strange situations, like when a folder on a volume is actually a simlink to a file server. I know that Apple could have worked it out, but it wasn't a quicky fix. I suspect that they put it off for when it could be better implemented, but, since most users don't need it, they just kept putting it off. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another? No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
VO and spell checker bug in safari fixed.
Hi all, Just to let you all know that VO now brings up the menu of corrections for a misspelled word when you use VO+shift+m in edit boxes in Safari, after you use command+semicolon. This bug was fixed either in mac os X 10.6.4 or Safari 5. I asume this will also work if you have check spelling while typing enabled. Hope this is of benefit to some of you. Dannie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
There is, and I just learned this myself last week. Open either Safari or Webkit preferences and click the General tab. For the Default Web browser, select Webkit from the drop down list. Voila! One thing to bear in mind. You will alwyas get a thank you for testing Webkit page every time you open Webkit. Just remember it's there, not a big deal. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?
Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?
I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this? Unfortunately I don't have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will probably try to justify the expense in the next several months. It should be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue. I'll admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Hi Nic, I forgot I have to use the Webkit icon to open it, sorry. That's what happens if you try to do things before morning coffee :)! Allison On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Just set Webkit to the default in Safari Preferences so that every time you open a link or whatever, it will use Webkit. You will have to use the Webkit icon to open Webkit, though, as it is a separate application but uses Safari. It just switches out the engine with a newer up-to-date engine when using it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Avid release of Pro Tools 8.04 for HD Is working with VoiceOver
Hi Listers, Just wanted to confirm to all Audio people that the Avid release of Pro Tools 8.04 for HD Is working with VoiceOver. So far it seems to be smoother than the Pro Tools LE!!! I am using a Lynx Aurora 16 16 CHANNEL 24 BIT/192 KHZ AD/DA CONVERTER for I/o and Pro Tools 8.04 HD sees it in hardware setup rite out of the box so to speak! If we want Logic Audio to work keep emailing them! Talk soon Chuck Reichel Studio owner Producer Engineer Song Writer Concert Drummer Drum and Percussion Instructor www.SoundPictureRecording.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?
Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys, sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page, but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this? Unfortunately I don't have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will probably try to justify the expense in the next several months. It should be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue. I'll admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? If one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it? Teresa On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote: Hi Teresa, I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is. When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes, like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time sake alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering, of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, which takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would be implemented in voiceover. John On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS. As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead. Teresa On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is not likely to go awyay... Cheers, Kaare. On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Hm, if that be the case, why not just remove the damn option from the edit menu? hell you can't even cut in amadeus pro and some aps I dont' think On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?
Hi Thuy, Interesting. I did go into practice gestures, and was surprised to find that there weren't too many commands available. I wonder if this could be unique to the Alva. The basics were there, of course, navigate left/right, move to next item, touble-tap item, but I saw nothing for page-down. I'll check again, but maybe I'll drop Apple a quick note about this. Thanks, Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Thuy wrote: Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys, sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page, but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this? Unfortunately I don't have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will probably try to justify the expense in the next several months. It should be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue. I'll admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Hi, I use Webkit by default now, actually. That's really the best idea, I think, personally, as you get the latest fixes and improvements. You actually do see performance improvements as well, so the fact that VoiceOver might seem a bit snappier wouldn't be a surprise. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Nic, Sarah and all, Thank you for the help. I did as you instructed and then tried to access audible, but VO kept restarting. THe only way I seem to have luck is to start Webkit whenever I want to access Audible. Other than Audible, every other site I've been on seems to work fine. Thank you again, and have a great day. Allison On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ah. Thanks for that. I forgot avout that little trick. Thanks for that. On Jun 30, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just set Webkit to the default in Safari Preferences so that every time you open a link or whatever, it will use Webkit. You will have to use the Webkit icon to open Webkit, though, as it is a separate application but uses Safari. It just switches out the engine with a newer up-to-date engine when using it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Never Mind, Was Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Sorry; disregard my last post to this thread. I was confused, but on a more careful reading it all became clear. I guess I don't mind copying files instead of cutting. I've put many a file into oblivion in Windows by cutting, so I guess I can deal with the extra time it takes to copy. Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
I have also found this link which is an alternative. I'm going to keep researching this further http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20081112153330648 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
it is all subjective but the fact is that cut and paste is faster it eliminates the step of deleting. we should advance forward in this world of technology not stay behind On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote: Hi Teresa, I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is. When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes, like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time sake alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering, of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, which takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would be implemented in voiceover. John On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS. As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead. Teresa On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is not likely to go awyay... Cheers, Kaare. On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
For as advanced as the finder is, I don't see hwo this could have been an issue at all, especially now. and especially considering how fast machines are nowadays, with multicore processors, why is this still an issue? On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: There is actually a technical reason, or there was, at one point. If you cut/paste a file, that should be a move of the file. Except, if you cut/paste to another hard drive, in which case, instead of a move, the Finder must perform a copy to the new drive, then delete the original. Supposedly, there was some complexity in having the Finder always detect which process was needed, and still account for strange situations, like when a folder on a volume is actually a simlink to a file server. I know that Apple could have worked it out, but it wasn't a quicky fix. I suspect that they put it off for when it could be better implemented, but, since most users don't need it, they just kept putting it off. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another? No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a
Re: Avid release of Pro Tools 8.04 for HD Is working with VoiceOver
This is awesome, I jsut wish I coul use my current hardware and not the proprietary stuff from dd On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Listers, Just wanted to confirm to all Audio people that the Avid release of Pro Tools 8.04 for HD Is working with VoiceOver. So far it seems to be smoother than the Pro Tools LE!!! I am using a Lynx Aurora 16 16 CHANNEL 24 BIT/192 KHZ AD/DA CONVERTER for I/o and Pro Tools 8.04 HD sees it in hardware setup rite out of the box so to speak! If we want Logic Audio to work keep emailing them! Talk soon Chuck Reichel Studio owner Producer Engineer Song Writer Concert Drummer Drum and Percussion Instructor www.SoundPictureRecording.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iphone 4 in Canada?
Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
Yes from what I hav herd it should be out some time in july. On 2010-06-30, at 10:30 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?
Hi Donna. Can you try some chords? Also, it calls it page right and page left. Cheers Thuy On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: Hi Thuy, Interesting. I did go into practice gestures, and was surprised to find that there weren't too many commands available. I wonder if this could be unique to the Alva. The basics were there, of course, navigate left/right, move to next item, touble-tap item, but I saw nothing for page-down. I'll check again, but maybe I'll drop Apple a quick note about this. Thanks, Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Thuy wrote: Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys, sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page, but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this? Unfortunately I don't have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will probably try to justify the expense in the next several months. It should be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue. I'll admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?
Donna: try to press a dot 1 3 5 chord and dot 2 4 6 chord to flick between pages. That works on the displays I've tried, but it might work differently on the different Braille displays. I hope Apple will make a list of these Braille commands soon, so we don't have to figure it out on our own through the VOiceover practise screen. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 30, 2010 kl. 3:56 PM skrev Donna Goodin: Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
I think someone said end of July. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 11:30 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? [was Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?]
Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik, Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display? I'd be interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the Braille devices. I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for the Apple Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock. These are mostly the movement and selection commands you are familiar with, but none of the Fn key combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page down (Fn+Up or Down Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with these keyboards. This may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock doesn't have the Fn key. What's interesting is that the shortcut combination of Command-Space bar to switch input language keyboards works with these keyboards. (This shortcut key combination is in the list by Jacob Rus of Cocoa keybindings, and predates the existence of Spotlight, which was also assigned this shortcut.) http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman letters, such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, you'd better set your language rotor to Default if you want to hear these options announced. (And I'm really happy there is a language rotor in iOS4.) Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to remap the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you can customize shortcut key combinations. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 30, 2010, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Thuy, Interesting. I did go into practice gestures, and was surprised to find that there weren't too many commands available. I wonder if this could be unique to the Alva. The basics were there, of course, navigate left/right, move to next item, touble-tap item, but I saw nothing for page-down. I'll check again, but maybe I'll drop Apple a quick note about this. Thanks, Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Thuy wrote: Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys, sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page, but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this? Unfortunately I don't have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will probably try to justify the expense in the next several months. It should be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue. I'll admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
braille display
Hi, I was wondering if anyone that might still have a pacmate uses the braille display part only on their Mac? If so, how would I go about doing so? It's the only braille display I have at the moment, smile. May -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? [was Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?]
Hi Esther, I agree, I love the language rotor. From what I could find on the Alva, there is no page-down command. However, I think I'll write accessibility, and see what they can tell me. Best, Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik, Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display? I'd be interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the Braille devices. I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for the Apple Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock. These are mostly the movement and selection commands you are familiar with, but none of the Fn key combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page down (Fn+Up or Down Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with these keyboards. This may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock doesn't have the Fn key. What's interesting is that the shortcut combination of Command-Space bar to switch input language keyboards works with these keyboards. (This shortcut key combination is in the list by Jacob Rus of Cocoa keybindings, and predates the existence of Spotlight, which was also assigned this shortcut.) http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman letters, such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, you'd better set your language rotor to Default if you want to hear these options announced. (And I'm really happy there is a language rotor in iOS4.) Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to remap the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you can customize shortcut key combinations. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 30, 2010, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Thuy, Interesting. I did go into practice gestures, and was surprised to find that there weren't too many commands available. I wonder if this could be unique to the Alva. The basics were there, of course, navigate left/right, move to next item, touble-tap item, but I saw nothing for page-down. I'll check again, but maybe I'll drop Apple a quick note about this. Thanks, Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Thuy wrote: Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys, sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page, but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this? Unfortunately I don't have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will probably try to justify the expense in the next several months. It should be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue. I'll admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
Hi Erik, I Googled this just now, and the unofficial word is July 23, 2010 for the Canadian release date of he iPhone 4: http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/sources-iphone-4-release-date-in-canada-july-23rd/ See the above link for details. But if experience is anything to go by, you'll want to look for the date you can put in a pre-order on line. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 30, 2010, Donna Goodin wrote: I think someone said end of July. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
New Pulsar with VoiceOver
Hi, There is a new version of Pulsar. Pulsar is a program that allows one to listen to XM Radio if you have an online account. unfortunately, this new version seems to have taken several steps in the wrong direction as far as accessibility goes. At least that is my experience so far. Has anybody found a reasonable way to access this software? Thanks, Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
Thanks Esther, I can apparently pre-order it now, and the apple website is toting rogers, fido, bell, and telus versions. I couldn't find a delivery date on the pre-order page though and it always gives me pause when I see that. I sort'a feel like some one who is advancing money on a product or service has the right to know when to expect delivery. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 11:53 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Erik, I Googled this just now, and the unofficial word is July 23, 2010 for the Canadian release date of he iPhone 4: http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/sources-iphone-4-release-date-in-canada-july-23rd/ See the above link for details. But if experience is anything to go by, you'll want to look for the date you can put in a pre-order on line. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 30, 2010, Donna Goodin wrote: I think someone said end of July. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
July 23rd apparently On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:30, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? [was Re: reading ibooks on iphone with braille display?]
Does the iPad keyboard dock work with the iPhone? On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Esther wrote: Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik, Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display? I'd be interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the Braille devices. I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for the Apple Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock. These are mostly the movement and selection commands you are familiar with, but none of the Fn key combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page down (Fn+Up or Down Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with these keyboards. This may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock doesn't have the Fn key. What's interesting is that the shortcut combination of Command-Space bar to switch input language keyboards works with these keyboards. (This shortcut key combination is in the list by Jacob Rus of Cocoa keybindings, and predates the existence of Spotlight, which was also assigned this shortcut.) http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman letters, such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, you'd better set your language rotor to Default if you want to hear these options announced. (And I'm really happy there is a language rotor in iOS4.) Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to remap the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you can customize shortcut key combinations. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 30, 2010, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Thuy, Interesting. I did go into practice gestures, and was surprised to find that there weren't too many commands available. I wonder if this could be unique to the Alva. The basics were there, of course, navigate left/right, move to next item, touble-tap item, but I saw nothing for page-down. I'll check again, but maybe I'll drop Apple a quick note about this. Thanks, Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Thuy wrote: Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys, sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page, but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this? Unfortunately I don't have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will probably try to justify the expense in the next several months. It should be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue. I'll admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Anyone had much luck with this? I'm using and Alva BC640. First, there doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning the page, so you have to use the page chooser. This works OK, except that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text. Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Verizon getting the iphone
For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
H now I would imagine the feature is probably enabled in all applications apart from the Finder. But when in finder maybe the option should change to Move instead of Cut. So it would be like copying, accept when you hit Move instead of cut the items are not deleted immediately until you instruct where you want the files moved to. A bit like a copy and paste but without having to go back and delete the files. On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:07, Cody Hurst wrote: Hm, if that be the case, why not just remove the damn option from the edit menu? hell you can't even cut in amadeus pro and some aps I dont' think On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: braille display
Hello May, I use an ancient PAC Mate 20 display alone with my MacBook. I just connected it and it was recognised in the VoiceOver Utility. It's USB only, of course, and the connection used to be a bit problematic until one of my dogs pulled the PAC Mate onto the floor and bent the USB connector, since when the connection has been perfect! I don't recommend this as a solution to connection problems, but it fixed mine. Cheers, Anne On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:50 PM, May McDonald wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone that might still have a pacmate uses the braille display part only on their Mac? If so, how would I go about doing so? It's the only braille display I have at the moment, smile. May -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
I have done some reading and the script posted here on the italian website seems to work the best and I think that this is the best solution. it is very easy to set up but the table in the shortcuts section fo the keyboard preference is a bit tricky I never understood the treeview like table in mac On Jun 30, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Chris Moore wrote: H now I would imagine the feature is probably enabled in all applications apart from the Finder. But when in finder maybe the option should change to Move instead of Cut. So it would be like copying, accept when you hit Move instead of cut the items are not deleted immediately until you instruct where you want the files moved to. A bit like a copy and paste but without having to go back and delete the files. On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:07, Cody Hurst wrote: Hm, if that be the case, why not just remove the damn option from the edit menu? hell you can't even cut in amadeus pro and some aps I dont' think On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
kick ass man I'll be switching when I get some more official information and when they get closer toa relase date On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Hi Donna and Kimberly, As far as I know, there still isn't an official announcement. What people are going by is the Bloomberg report that Verizon Wireless Said to Start Offering iPhone in January. Everyone declined to be named, and the Verizon Wireless spokesman, Apple, etc. all declined to comment. Cheers, Esther On Jun 30, 2010, Kimberly thurman wrote: I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Who cares. At least it's coming! :) Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
I have been hearing different dates all year. I'm sure it will happpen, but I'll believe it when I see it. On Jun 30, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
um, yeah vzw has a 10 times better 3g coverage not to mention awesome call quality. i'm sick and tired of having dropped calls. so I cant' wait lets all throw a party. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
It's a shame Sprint isn't in the picture. We have unlimited data, and I have an HTC Touch Pro I really dispise. I dropped it recently and it has a nasty crack on the side. It almost landed in the dog's water bowl though, so that would have been the end of it. LOL! On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Who cares. At least it's coming! :) Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Where can I get Web kit? And, is it something Apple approves of? And how does one install it? Thanks much. On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Nic, I forgot I have to use the Webkit icon to open it, sorry. That's what happens if you try to do things before morning coffee :)! Allison On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Just set Webkit to the default in Safari Preferences so that every time you open a link or whatever, it will use Webkit. You will have to use the Webkit icon to open Webkit, though, as it is a separate application but uses Safari. It just switches out the engine with a newer up-to-date engine when using it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Yeah, and if you click a link in an E-mail and Web Kit is not open already, you will have to click the link again, as the first click will just open Webkit to the Webkit page. Not a big deal though. I have been using Webkit almost exclusively for some time now. On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: There is, and I just learned this myself last week. Open either Safari or Webkit preferences and click the General tab. For the Default Web browser, select Webkit from the drop down list. Voila! One thing to bear in mind. You will alwyas get a thank you for testing Webkit page every time you open Webkit. Just remember it's there, not a big deal. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
Hey! Something I may be able to help with, smiles. Who is your provider? For example cellular point stores have them for bell at last in Toronto. best way might be to phone the cell company you are considering, ask if they have the a phone and for a dealer near you. I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto. Karen On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Yes Apple approve it, Webkit is the open source engine that runs Safari, Omniweb, Google Chrome, the web browsers on Nokia phones etc. To find out more visit www.webkit.org On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:23, Richard Ring wrote: Where can I get Web kit? And, is it something Apple approves of? And how does one install it? Thanks much. On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Nic, I forgot I have to use the Webkit icon to open it, sorry. That's what happens if you try to do things before morning coffee :)! Allison On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Just set Webkit to the default in Safari Preferences so that every time you open a link or whatever, it will use Webkit. You will have to use the Webkit icon to open Webkit, though, as it is a separate application but uses Safari. It just switches out the engine with a newer up-to-date engine when using it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Count me in for the party Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: um, yeah vzw has a 10 times better 3g coverage not to mention awesome call quality. i'm sick and tired of having dropped calls. so I cant' wait lets all throw a party. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
I option click all the time. Just hold down the options key and click wiht the physical mouse pad. S On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Actually you can. I do it all the time. Take care. S On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: Hm, if that be the case, why not just remove the damn option from the edit menu? hell you can't even cut in amadeus pro and some aps I dont' think On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Do you think Sprint would stay unlimited if they got the iPhone though? On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:24, Kimberly thurman wrote: It's a shame Sprint isn't in the picture. We have unlimited data, and I have an HTC Touch Pro I really dispise. I dropped it recently and it has a nasty crack on the side. It almost landed in the dog's water bowl though, so that would have been the end of it. LOL! On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Who cares. At least it's coming! :) Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO and spell checker bug in safari fixed.
Hmm I have never gotten that to work even in safari 5. Um? S On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Daniel Rowe wrote: Hi all, Just to let you all know that VO now brings up the menu of corrections for a misspelled word when you use VO+shift+m in edit boxes in Safari, after you use command+semicolon. This bug was fixed either in mac os X 10.6.4 or Safari 5. I asume this will also work if you have check spelling while typing enabled. Hope this is of benefit to some of you. Dannie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Sprint is easily the most customer-oriented of the U.S. carriers. Yes, I suspect they would. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Do you think Sprint would stay unlimited if they got the iPhone though? On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:24, Kimberly thurman wrote: It's a shame Sprint isn't in the picture. We have unlimited data, and I have an HTC Touch Pro I really dispise. I dropped it recently and it has a nasty crack on the side. It almost landed in the dog's water bowl though, so that would have been the end of it. LOL! On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Who cares. At least it's coming! :) Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
hey; i don't have a problem with the command x not being there. I don't even care that drag and drop doesn't exist on a mac. but the one i wish they would add even if they have to give it a different name is the move from windows. You can do it in mail so why not in finder? maybe i should email accessibility about it. thanks, max On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: if a person cannot cut and paste without creating 5000 aliases, then they probably shouldn't be using a computer :p /*sarcasm off*? On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is not likely to go awyay... Cheers, Kaare. On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Well I have been saying for a long time that VZW would eventually get the iPhone and so far it has not happen. So, I won't say it will not happen, but let's see if January 2011 is finally the year of the iPhone for VZW. I hope it happens and that does not mean I'd leave ATT, but both carriers will have to work to keep or gain customers. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Hi, I'd hope Apple approves of it, since it's their underlying engine for every version of Safari. lol The only difference is that, when you use the actual Webkit application, you just have a newer engine than what Safari uses now. It will still look exactly the same, but you will see performance improvements and bug fixes, and even new features as the engine is updated. You get nightly builds every second day or so, sometimes even every day. http://webkit.org You can read more about it there. Worth noting is also that it will look just like Safari, because you're just loading a newer engine than What Safari already uses officially. That means all your preferences, bookmarks and everything else is kept. Just remember to use the Webkit icon instead, and a good idea is to set it as the default browser in Safari preferences. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Richard Ring wrote: Where can I get Web kit? And, is it something Apple approves of? And how does one install it? Thanks much. On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Nic, I forgot I have to use the Webkit icon to open it, sorry. That's what happens if you try to do things before morning coffee :)! Allison On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Just set Webkit to the default in Safari Preferences so that every time you open a link or whatever, it will use Webkit. You will have to use the Webkit icon to open Webkit, though, as it is a separate application but uses Safari. It just switches out the engine with a newer up-to-date engine when using it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: webkit and audible
Hi, Actually, you don't have to double-click the link, the link sometimes just opens in the background with the Webkit page in the front. IF you read down the Webkit page that it loads, though, you'll see a way to get your original homepage instead. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: Yeah, and if you click a link in an E-mail and Web Kit is not open already, you will have to click the link again, as the first click will just open Webkit to the Webkit page. Not a big deal though. I have been using Webkit almost exclusively for some time now. On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: There is, and I just learned this myself last week. Open either Safari or Webkit preferences and click the General tab. For the Default Web browser, select Webkit from the drop down list. Voila! One thing to bear in mind. You will alwyas get a thank you for testing Webkit page every time you open Webkit. Just remember it's there, not a big deal. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
ok I stand corrected. I wonder why, though, some have the option to cut and not have it grayed out On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Actually you can. I do it all the time. Take care. S On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: Hm, if that be the case, why not just remove the damn option from the edit menu? hell you can't even cut in amadeus pro and some aps I dont' think On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
it is not an accessibility issue, it's a finder issue On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: hey; i don't have a problem with the command x not being there. I don't even care that drag and drop doesn't exist on a mac. but the one i wish they would add even if they have to give it a different name is the move from windows. You can do it in mail so why not in finder? maybe i should email accessibility about it. thanks, max On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: if a person cannot cut and paste without creating 5000 aliases, then they probably shouldn't be using a computer :p /*sarcasm off*? On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is not likely to go awyay... Cheers, Kaare. On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
I don't think that it'll be an issue which who keeps and who gains. it's pretty much cut and dry who will get what. AT and T sucks, sucky 3g coverage, and sucky call quality, and everyone I know has been dreaming vzw will get the iPhone, so that being said, we all can pretty much assume everyone from AT and T will be leaving and swarming to Verizon. I know this for a fact. that is of course if you like shitty 3g coverage and dropped calls. That commercial is more than deceiving, it's a lie On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Well I have been saying for a long time that VZW would eventually get the iPhone and so far it has not happen. So, I won't say it will not happen, but let's see if January 2011 is finally the year of the iPhone for VZW. I hope it happens and that does not mean I'd leave ATT, but both carriers will have to work to keep or gain customers. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
Hi Karen, I can understand what the appeal might be for a lot of people, especially if you are lucky enough to be in love with your phone carrier. For myself I can honestly say that nothing on earth would induce me to buy a phone from any carrier I've had the misfortune to deal with in Canada. not bell or telus, and especially not rogers. In case I should ever be forced to buy a phone from a carrier I'll be buying the phone outright and never approaching anything that looks like a contract. Bad bad bad news. In this case I think I'll quite happily grab one from the apple store and then just buy a prepaid simcard for it from probably fido, but maybe I'll check mobilicity and see if they can support it. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 12:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hey! Something I may be able to help with, smiles. Who is your provider? For example cellular point stores have them for bell at last in Toronto. best way might be to phone the cell company you are considering, ask if they have the a phone and for a dealer near you. I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto. Karen On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iPad keyboard dock and iPhone 3GS [was Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? ]
Hi Chris, I'm using the iPad keyboard dock with my iPod Touch, but here's a link to an article reporting use of the iPad keyboard dock with the iPhone 3GS at Slashgear: http://www.slashgear.com/ios4-iphone-3gs-works-with-ipad-keyboard-dock-video-2290908/ There's an earlier post I wrote on iPad keyboard options that has a link to the Gearlog diary entry about this, and also links and excerpts to Dan Frakes' article evaluating both the iPad keyboard dock and the Apple Wireless Keyboard: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg19393.html There are some other considerations that I've discussed on the viphone list. The keyboard dock is less portable than the Wireless (BlueTooth) keyboard. In order to support the larger iPad, it has a stabilizer base that extends out the back of the keyboard, so it weighs nearly twice as much as the wireless keyboard (21.4 ounces vs. 11.4 ounces, or 600 grams vs. 320 grams). It's about the size of the iPhone (very slightly larger), and extends out from the middle of the keyboard so that it supports the keyboard at a slight angle for easier typing. The stabilizer base also supports the back of the iPod Touch or iPad. It supports about the bottom third of my iPod Touch, as it sits on the dock connector, and is very slightly wider than the device. Good points of the keyboard dock are: support in fixed position makes it easy to alternate between typing and touching the screen, dock has a connector that allows you to charge your device while docked, and also has a standard 3.5 mm audio jack connector that lets you connect up to audio system or speakers (or, you could plug in your headset). Possible issues: you can't use a case on the bottom of the device that you dock (not a problem for me, since my iPod Touch case can slide the bottom half off), less portable (because of weight and shape), probably not optimal for docking the new iPhone 4 (because of the different shape design and thickness). Also, the iPhone speaker is at the bottom of the device, so I don't know how this would work if receive a call while typing. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote: Does the iPad keyboard dock work with the iPhone? On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Esther wrote: Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik, Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display? I'd be interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the Braille devices. I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for the Apple Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock. These are mostly the movement and selection commands you are familiar with, but none of the Fn key combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page down (Fn+Up or Down Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with these keyboards. This may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock doesn't have the Fn key. What's interesting is that the shortcut combination of Command- Space bar to switch input language keyboards works with these keyboards. (This shortcut key combination is in the list by Jacob Rus of Cocoa keybindings, and predates the existence of Spotlight, which was also assigned this shortcut.) http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman letters, such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, you'd better set your language rotor to Default if you want to hear these options announced. (And I'm really happy there is a language rotor in iOS4.) Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to remap the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you can customize shortcut key combinations. HTH. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
Isn't Fido Rogers? Carin - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: iphone 4 in Canada? Hi Karen, I can understand what the appeal might be for a lot of people, especially if you are lucky enough to be in love with your phone carrier. For myself I can honestly say that nothing on earth would induce me to buy a phone from any carrier I've had the misfortune to deal with in Canada. not bell or telus, and especially not rogers. In case I should ever be forced to buy a phone from a carrier I'll be buying the phone outright and never approaching anything that looks like a contract. Bad bad bad news. In this case I think I'll quite happily grab one from the apple store and then just buy a prepaid simcard for it from probably fido, but maybe I'll check mobilicity and see if they can support it. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 12:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hey! Something I may be able to help with, smiles. Who is your provider? For example cellular point stores have them for bell at last in Toronto. best way might be to phone the cell company you are considering, ask if they have the a phone and for a dealer near you. I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto. Karen On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
Hi, no, fido is not rogers. It's weird, but they are two seperate companies, both owned by rogers, using the same GSM towers. The probable reason for this is that Rogers physicly owns those towers, giving them a communications monopoly. It's illegal to have a communications monopoly in Canada according to what I've read. So they have a monopoly, but really they don't. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 1:33 PM, Carin Headrick wrote: Isn't Fido Rogers? Carin - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: iphone 4 in Canada? Hi Karen, I can understand what the appeal might be for a lot of people, especially if you are lucky enough to be in love with your phone carrier. For myself I can honestly say that nothing on earth would induce me to buy a phone from any carrier I've had the misfortune to deal with in Canada. not bell or telus, and especially not rogers. In case I should ever be forced to buy a phone from a carrier I'll be buying the phone outright and never approaching anything that looks like a contract. Bad bad bad news. In this case I think I'll quite happily grab one from the apple store and then just buy a prepaid simcard for it from probably fido, but maybe I'll check mobilicity and see if they can support it. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-30, at 12:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hey! Something I may be able to help with, smiles. Who is your provider? For example cellular point stores have them for bell at last in Toronto. best way might be to phone the cell company you are considering, ask if they have the a phone and for a dealer near you. I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto. Karen On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada? I can't find either a due date or an msrp. This is very annoying when trying to purchase equipment for a business. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Getting Mail to behave the way it used to
Hello everyone, I don't know what I did to precipitate this change, but Mail is behaving slightly differently than it used to. Yesterday, I was notified about a new version of Mail, and I downloaded it. I may have made some other changes as well, but the problem I am now having isn't serious, but it's a pain, nonetheless. Whenever going through messages in the message table, I used to be able to press Enter on the message I wanted to hear and Voice Over would automatically begin to read the text portion of the message. This is no longer the case, and I'd love to know how to restore the old behavior. Now, I have to first interact with the text and then press VO A to hear the message. It is far more time-consuming than I would like. Does anyone have any ideas about how to get my system to revert to the earlier behavior, and thanks in advance, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting Mail to behave the way it used to
Actually, what you can do is press VO J, and the message will be read. After you have read the message, press Vo J to return to the message table. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello everyone, I don't know what I did to precipitate this change, but Mail is behaving slightly differently than it used to. Yesterday, I was notified about a new version of Mail, and I downloaded it. I may have made some other changes as well, but the problem I am now having isn't serious, but it's a pain, nonetheless. Whenever going through messages in the message table, I used to be able to press Enter on the message I wanted to hear and Voice Over would automatically begin to read the text portion of the message. This is no longer the case, and I'd love to know how to restore the old behavior. Now, I have to first interact with the text and then press VO A to hear the message. It is far more time-consuming than I would like. Does anyone have any ideas about how to get my system to revert to the earlier behavior, and thanks in advance, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPad keyboard dock and iPhone 3GS [was Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? ]
Thanks for that, but i really hope the Freedom i connex works as it is foldable so it would be easier to caryy around with me if I need to type a longer SMS or email. Shame the Apple keyboard was not foldable. Actually I love the keyboard my imac uses, much nicer then my laptop but that is way too big LOL On 30 Jun 2010, at 18:30, Esther wrote: Hi Chris, I'm using the iPad keyboard dock with my iPod Touch, but here's a link to an article reporting use of the iPad keyboard dock with the iPhone 3GS at Slashgear: http://www.slashgear.com/ios4-iphone-3gs-works-with-ipad-keyboard-dock-video-2290908/ There's an earlier post I wrote on iPad keyboard options that has a link to the Gearlog diary entry about this, and also links and excerpts to Dan Frakes' article evaluating both the iPad keyboard dock and the Apple Wireless Keyboard: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg19393.html There are some other considerations that I've discussed on the viphone list. The keyboard dock is less portable than the Wireless (BlueTooth) keyboard. In order to support the larger iPad, it has a stabilizer base that extends out the back of the keyboard, so it weighs nearly twice as much as the wireless keyboard (21.4 ounces vs. 11.4 ounces, or 600 grams vs. 320 grams). It's about the size of the iPhone (very slightly larger), and extends out from the middle of the keyboard so that it supports the keyboard at a slight angle for easier typing. The stabilizer base also supports the back of the iPod Touch or iPad. It supports about the bottom third of my iPod Touch, as it sits on the dock connector, and is very slightly wider than the device. Good points of the keyboard dock are: support in fixed position makes it easy to alternate between typing and touching the screen, dock has a connector that allows you to charge your device while docked, and also has a standard 3.5 mm audio jack connector that lets you connect up to audio system or speakers (or, you could plug in your headset). Possible issues: you can't use a case on the bottom of the device that you dock (not a problem for me, since my iPod Touch case can slide the bottom half off), less portable (because of weight and shape), probably not optimal for docking the new iPhone 4 (because of the different shape design and thickness). Also, the iPhone speaker is at the bottom of the device, so I don't know how this would work if receive a call while typing. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote: Does the iPad keyboard dock work with the iPhone? On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Esther wrote: Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik, Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display? I'd be interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the Braille devices. I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for the Apple Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock. These are mostly the movement and selection commands you are familiar with, but none of the Fn key combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page down (Fn+Up or Down Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with these keyboards. This may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock doesn't have the Fn key. What's interesting is that the shortcut combination of Command-Space bar to switch input language keyboards works with these keyboards. (This shortcut key combination is in the list by Jacob Rus of Cocoa keybindings, and predates the existence of Spotlight, which was also assigned this shortcut.) http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman letters, such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, you'd better set your language rotor to Default if you want to hear these options announced. (And I'm really happy there is a language rotor in iOS4.) Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to remap the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you can customize shortcut key combinations. HTH. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting Mail to behave the way it used to
Im unsure, however when on the message you want to hear in the messages table you can press vo j and it will jump to the message content area and it will automatically start to read for you On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello everyone, I don't know what I did to precipitate this change, but Mail is behaving slightly differently than it used to. Yesterday, I was notified about a new version of Mail, and I downloaded it. I may have made some other changes as well, but the problem I am now having isn't serious, but it's a pain, nonetheless. Whenever going through messages in the message table, I used to be able to press Enter on the message I wanted to hear and Voice Over would automatically begin to read the text portion of the message. This is no longer the case, and I'd love to know how to restore the old behavior. Now, I have to first interact with the text and then press VO A to hear the message. It is far more time-consuming than I would like. Does anyone have any ideas about how to get my system to revert to the earlier behavior, and thanks in advance, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting Mail to behave the way it used to
Welcome to the new mail program. That was an enhancement added to the latest version (DWS). Kev On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello everyone, I don't know what I did to precipitate this change, but Mail is behaving slightly differently than it used to. Yesterday, I was notified about a new version of Mail, and I downloaded it. I may have made some other changes as well, but the problem I am now having isn't serious, but it's a pain, nonetheless. Whenever going through messages in the message table, I used to be able to press Enter on the message I wanted to hear and Voice Over would automatically begin to read the text portion of the message. This is no longer the case, and I'd love to know how to restore the old behavior. Now, I have to first interact with the text and then press VO A to hear the message. It is far more time-consuming than I would like. Does anyone have any ideas about how to get my system to revert to the earlier behavior, and thanks in advance, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
And, if (I say if, because we've seen this rumor now in one form or anothr for a couple years) Verizon does get the iPhone, count on their network being over capacity, just like ATT's. They have better coverage *now*, maybe, they have better bandwidth, *now*, maybe, but if things had gone differently and Verizon were the exclusive iPhone carrier back at the beginning, I'd be willing to wager the results would be the same as they are now, only with a different carrier name. True that the iPhone spread over several carriers will be better for everyone and will spread out the data usage somewhat, but don't be surprised if we start seeing the same complaints about Verizon's network capacity as we do now about ATT's. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Count me in for the party Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: um, yeah vzw has a 10 times better 3g coverage not to mention awesome call quality. i'm sick and tired of having dropped calls. so I cant' wait lets all throw a party. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting Mail to behave the way it used to
You can also hit tab and then shift tab to go back On 30 Jun 2010, at 18:46, Cody Hurst wrote: Im unsure, however when on the message you want to hear in the messages table you can press vo j and it will jump to the message content area and it will automatically start to read for you On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello everyone, I don't know what I did to precipitate this change, but Mail is behaving slightly differently than it used to. Yesterday, I was notified about a new version of Mail, and I downloaded it. I may have made some other changes as well, but the problem I am now having isn't serious, but it's a pain, nonetheless. Whenever going through messages in the message table, I used to be able to press Enter on the message I wanted to hear and Voice Over would automatically begin to read the text portion of the message. This is no longer the case, and I'd love to know how to restore the old behavior. Now, I have to first interact with the text and then press VO A to hear the message. It is far more time-consuming than I would like. Does anyone have any ideas about how to get my system to revert to the earlier behavior, and thanks in advance, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
As icky as ATT is, and as customer service oriented as ATT isn't, I have to say I've never had a problem with dropped calls or bad call quality; certainly no worse than anyone else's I've dealt with. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: I don't think that it'll be an issue which who keeps and who gains. it's pretty much cut and dry who will get what. AT and T sucks, sucky 3g coverage, and sucky call quality, and everyone I know has been dreaming vzw will get the iPhone, so that being said, we all can pretty much assume everyone from AT and T will be leaving and swarming to Verizon. I know this for a fact. that is of course if you like shitty 3g coverage and dropped calls. That commercial is more than deceiving, it's a lie On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Well I have been saying for a long time that VZW would eventually get the iPhone and so far it has not happen. So, I won't say it will not happen, but let's see if January 2011 is finally the year of the iPhone for VZW. I hope it happens and that does not mean I'd leave ATT, but both carriers will have to work to keep or gain customers. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Perhaps. But ATT also has *horrible customer service. And VZ's coverage is better as well. Also for me there's an added incentive in that my husband is on VZ, so we'd save some $$ being on the same network. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: And, if (I say if, because we've seen this rumor now in one form or anothr for a couple years) Verizon does get the iPhone, count on their network being over capacity, just like ATT's. They have better coverage *now*, maybe, they have better bandwidth, *now*, maybe, but if things had gone differently and Verizon were the exclusive iPhone carrier back at the beginning, I'd be willing to wager the results would be the same as they are now, only with a different carrier name. True that the iPhone spread over several carriers will be better for everyone and will spread out the data usage somewhat, but don't be surprised if we start seeing the same complaints about Verizon's network capacity as we do now about ATT's. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Count me in for the party Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: um, yeah vzw has a 10 times better 3g coverage not to mention awesome call quality. i'm sick and tired of having dropped calls. so I cant' wait lets all throw a party. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Sprint is easily the most customer-oriented of the U.S. carriers. Yes, I suspect they would. *Snort* Sprint may have among the lowest prices, but they aren't anywhere near the most customer oriented carrier. I would have to say that, at least for customer service, that honor has consistently gone to T-Mobile. Even if T-Mobile has rotten coverage in several places. Anyone remember that story where Sprint basically told a thousand customers to get lost because they called customer service too many times? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Do you think Sprint would stay unlimited if they got the iPhone though? On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:24, Kimberly thurman wrote: It's a shame Sprint isn't in the picture. We have unlimited data, and I have an HTC Touch Pro I really dispise. I dropped it recently and it has a nasty crack on the side. It almost landed in the dog's water bowl though, so that would have been the end of it. LOL! On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Who cares. At least it's coming! :) Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
I definitely have. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: As icky as ATT is, and as customer service oriented as ATT isn't, I have to say I've never had a problem with dropped calls or bad call quality; certainly no worse than anyone else's I've dealt with. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: I don't think that it'll be an issue which who keeps and who gains. it's pretty much cut and dry who will get what. AT and T sucks, sucky 3g coverage, and sucky call quality, and everyone I know has been dreaming vzw will get the iPhone, so that being said, we all can pretty much assume everyone from AT and T will be leaving and swarming to Verizon. I know this for a fact. that is of course if you like shitty 3g coverage and dropped calls. That commercial is more than deceiving, it's a lie On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Well I have been saying for a long time that VZW would eventually get the iPhone and so far it has not happen. So, I won't say it will not happen, but let's see if January 2011 is finally the year of the iPhone for VZW. I hope it happens and that does not mean I'd leave ATT, but both carriers will have to work to keep or gain customers. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah January 2011 right? So is that a big deal for you guys? is Horizon a better network? I guess it will ease some of the traffic on ATT. The iPhone in the UK is available in the UK by 7 providers now (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, Tesco and 3). Guess we are spoilt for choice now, shame the tariffs are not so good now that the unlimited data is gone. On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:19, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Hi, I downloaded the script from that site, but I don't have a clue as to how to get it working? Can someone please help, don't know anything about scripts. Copying and pasting is getting to be a real pain (smiley). Courtney On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: ok I stand corrected. I wonder why, though, some have the option to cut and not have it grayed out On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Actually you can. I do it all the time. Take care. S On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: Hm, if that be the case, why not just remove the damn option from the edit menu? hell you can't even cut in amadeus pro and some aps I dont' think On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in the main menu and pop up menu. But cutting would then just move to trash. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes. /Krister 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Verizon getting the iphone
Oh, but T-Mobile barely counts. They don't have coverage in 75% of the country. Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Sprint is easily the most customer-oriented of the U.S. carriers. Yes, I suspect they would. *Snort* Sprint may have among the lowest prices, but they aren't anywhere near the most customer oriented carrier. I would have to say that, at least for customer service, that honor has consistently gone to T-Mobile. Even if T-Mobile has rotten coverage in several places. Anyone remember that story where Sprint basically told a thousand customers to get lost because they called customer service too many times? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Do you think Sprint would stay unlimited if they got the iPhone though? On 30 Jun 2010, at 17:24, Kimberly thurman wrote: It's a shame Sprint isn't in the picture. We have unlimited data, and I have an HTC Touch Pro I really dispise. I dropped it recently and it has a nasty crack on the side. It almost landed in the dog's water bowl though, so that would have been the end of it. LOL! On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Who cares. At least it's coming! :) Donna On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I heard that it won't be until next year though. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: For all those waiting so long for this announcement, I just learned on another list that VZ has announced it's getting the iphone. Finally No official link yet, will post when I get it. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
