Software Update

2013-04-21 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Does anyone else have problems with VoiceOver jumping all over the place in the 
HTML content area of the Mac App Store app when doing a software update in the 
update tab? Sometimes trying to navigate through the list of updates is near 
impossible as VoiceOver focus keeps jumping back to the beginning somewhere.

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Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Steve Holmes
I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying Apple 
submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual characters in 
simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and then hit the return 
key to rename it. then start typing the new name or cursor around in there to 
edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit control yet. For me, I keep 
hearing that phrase every time I move the cursor or type. Now if I interact 
then it stops doing that. I also get this in TextEdit if I don't interact there 
but that is obviously a place where I would always want to interact. I've never 
had this situation in the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be 
causing VO to keep saying Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or 
any of that.

Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: Transmit, or cute FTP which is better?

2013-04-21 Thread Steve Holmes
I wasn't aware of a Mac version of CuteFTP. I never liked the one for windows. 
I use Transmit on the Mac and love it. Dunno about Cute on the Mac.

On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Jeffry Miller fafa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I was just wondering, which is better to use, transmit, or cute FTP? I 
 am trying both of them, but can't seem to find how to get the list of sites 
 in the cute FTP one. Are there any tutorials or anything on Cute FTP
 
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Re: anti virus for my new mac

2013-04-21 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
What is the url for the developer of Clamxavs web site?
/Krister

21 apr 2013 kl. 04:26 skrev Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net:

 I'd go for ClamxaV.  Here's another tip.  Download it directly from the 
 developer's site and not from the app store.  Why?  The app store version 
 does not come with Clam Century which activly monitors all your folders once 
 you've set it up that way.  Easy to understand and fully accessible.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I'm new here  new to mac, but have been working my way through David 
 Woodbridge  Mike (from how to be blind) Podcast series, both are excellent 
 BTW.  
 
 Anyway, I was wanting to know which antivirus program you use?  Do you use 
 Avast?  I saw that was recommended in a magazine I saw for getting started 
 with the mac.  I'd like to be protected before I start downloading things 
 from the net, like Skype.  
 
 I'm slowly getting there.  Last week I think I was nearly successful at 
 downloading silverlight to fill out some forms for my doctor, I was able to 
 click on the download now icon, but I don't know what to do next.  I somehow 
 found that I'd tried to download it 3 times, but since there was a cancel 
 option I did that and just had them help me when I got to the doctor's.  So, 
 that leads me to my next question, when downloading something from the net, 
 how do we access it?  I think silverlight is some sort of plug in and not 
 something that I'm likely to need again but I know I want skype and some 
 antivirus.  so, I've guessed that there is a different process from 
 downloading things from the App Store as I did the type2phone successfully 
 and going through Safari to download things.  
 
 Thanks in advance.  
 
 Katey 
 
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Re: SOS with Pages

2013-04-21 Thread Daniela Rubio
Well, that is also a good idea, but I think that I rather create it after I 
finish, but we could also try to create it first and let it update as we place 
headings.
Thank you and keep in touch.
Best

Daniela Rubio T
 Distinguished Educator
iPhone: +34662328507






El 21/04/2013, a las 00:39, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hi,
 
 Glad to help.  I'm guessing that the logic behind this is that Pages looks 
 after the cursor position when creating the Table of Contents.  Another way 
 around this may be to tell Pages to create a Table of Contents on the first 
 page before you start entering anything on your paper.  Then it should simply 
 create those Table of Contents entries as you all the text.  Any changes 
 should just be live updated as you type and create specific headings.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-04-20, at 4:25 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Thank you so so much! These are the curious things about Apple 
 Software! Some how I was trying for the first time to place a table of con 
 ten at the end of the document indeed, but all of the other times I had 
 place it at the beginning.
 The page break idea is just great!
 Have a good weekend and thanks again!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 El 20/04/2013, a las 23:49, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com escribió:
 
 Hi,
 
 Try to move your cursor to the very top of the document, using your arrow 
 keys.  Once at the very top, insert a Page Break from the Insert menu then 
 arrow up again so that your cursor is in the first blank page.  Now, go up 
 to the Insert menu and choose Table of Contents.  It should put all your 
 items on that first page.  When I was testing and testing this, if my 
 cursor was at the end of the document, I got the same error as you but when 
 I moved it to the top, everything worked as it should.  I placed the Page 
 Break above the original first page of the document so that the body of the 
 text would start on a new page after the Table of Contents.
 
 A couple things to note though, the Table of Contents does not read 
 properly with VO from within Pages.  I printed a pdf copy from the Print 
 dialog and looked at the Table of Contents in Single page mode from within 
 Preview and it seemed correct.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-04-20, at 1:02 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all:
 Let's see if somebody can solve this mystery, I just can't!!!
 I am doing a document in pages, where I use Heading level 1 for all the 
 subtitles. I Know that when you select heading level 1 for the section 
 tittles or subtitles, a table of content is created from them when you 
 insert it from the insert menu.
 Now, I do it, I know that all my subtitles are with the heading and when I 
 insert the table, it says that it is empty, because the document doesn't 
 use any of the paragraph stiles selected in the Document tab of the 
 inspector.
 I tried doing all I can, even reopening Pages, but nothing. It is very 
 important that I hand in that document on Monday, buy I am still fighting 
 with this.
 Thank you very much for all you could suggest.
 Best, 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: finder crashes when opening external disk

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland

Paul,

You're doing everything I would have done with one suggestion.  Have you 
gone into Disk Utility and tried to repair/verify the disk, and its 
permissions?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:58 AM
Subject: finder crashes when opening external disk


Dear listers,

I have a Western Digital 1tb drive attached to my mac. Its file system is 
mac os extended, journaled, so that should all be fine. However, when I go 
to this drive in finder, by simply hitting command down arrow on its volume 
icon on the desktop, finder crashes. Voiceover says I'm still on the 
desktop, but my wife says she sees a window with 2 buttons: reopen, or 
cancel. I cannot reach this window myself using command accent, nor with vo 
twice f1, nor by turning vo off and back on. If my wife clicks the error 
window, then yes I can see it with vo.


While googling, I found a solution that advises to delete all mac files from 
the root. I think they mean, delete all dot files and let os10 create those 
from scratch. But I have no way to get into the drive.


This is a fresh mac os10 installation, and I haven't been in terminal since, 
but when I open terminal and then press my braille display up key, VoiceOver 
says last login, and then a date. I should normally be able to read the 
previous line in terminal, i.e. the result of my commands. I need to find 
out how to get terminal on its feet again, but that's a different problem.


I'm hoping to find a way to solve this finder crash when opening the 
external drive, starting by deleting the files on its root that start with a 
period. According to a post I found on the net, that may solve finder 
crashes when opening an external drive. I tried command g, go to folder in 
finder, but that command crashes finder as well, when I type in 
/volumes/macserver1. macserver1 is the volume label of the external drive.


Any ideas? What can I do to let finder open this drive? CrashPlan is backing 
it up just fine, so it should be accessible to the os. It's just that finder 
has problems with it. Any advice?


Paul.

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Re: anti virus for my new mac

2013-04-21 Thread Ray Foret Jr
go here:

http://www.clamxav.com


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:

 Hi,
 What is the url for the developer of Clamxavs web site?
 /Krister
 
 21 apr 2013 kl. 04:26 skrev Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net:
 
 I'd go for ClamxaV.  Here's another tip.  Download it directly from the 
 developer's site and not from the app store.  Why?  The app store version 
 does not come with Clam Century which activly monitors all your folders once 
 you've set it up that way.  Easy to understand and fully accessible.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I'm new here  new to mac, but have been working my way through David 
 Woodbridge  Mike (from how to be blind) Podcast series, both are excellent 
 BTW.  
 
 Anyway, I was wanting to know which antivirus program you use?  Do you use 
 Avast?  I saw that was recommended in a magazine I saw for getting started 
 with the mac.  I'd like to be protected before I start downloading things 
 from the net, like Skype.  
 
 I'm slowly getting there.  Last week I think I was nearly successful at 
 downloading silverlight to fill out some forms for my doctor, I was able to 
 click on the download now icon, but I don't know what to do next.  I 
 somehow found that I'd tried to download it 3 times, but since there was a 
 cancel option I did that and just had them help me when I got to the 
 doctor's.  So, that leads me to my next question, when downloading 
 something from the net, how do we access it?  I think silverlight is some 
 sort of plug in and not something that I'm likely to need again but I know 
 I want skype and some antivirus.  so, I've guessed that there is a 
 different process from downloading things from the App Store as I did the 
 type2phone successfully and going through Safari to download things.  
 
 Thanks in advance.  
 
 Katey 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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pdf files when in a web site

2013-04-21 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys 
Someone may have addressed this somewhere, but I can't remember. If you're in a 
web site and you want to look at a pdf file, is there a way to tell Safari that 
you want to use Preview instead of Adobe Acrobat Reader. Somewhere along the 
way I got Adobe Reader on my Mac, and I guess I should really take it off so I 
don't end up with what might as well be a blank screen if I call up a pdf file. 
I suppose I could save the file out and then reload it again in Preview, but it 
would be nice not to need to do that. 

Regards,
Gigi


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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8 Topics

2013-04-21 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there 
It's been a while since I bought the 1 terrabyte drive, but I think I paid 
about $100 at the Apple store. I was told I could go online and get one 
cheaper, but I didn't. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:35 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 How much does the new terabyte hi Drive cost to click into your MacBook Pro?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/04/2013, at 11:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
   Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
 
 How is VO in Logic with step time? [1 Update]
 anti virus for my new mac [2 Updates]
 silver dollar app question. [1 Update]
 Help with VMWare Fusion [3 Updates]
 flack conversion? [2 Updates]
 How to find ideal screen resolution (vmware) [1 Update]
 Skype [1 Update]
 Regarding ZCaptcha [14 Updates]
  How is VO in Logic with step time?
 Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com Apr 20 11:06PM -0400  
 
 Does Logic's step time entry work well with Voice Over? I want to write down 
 my compositions, but, since moving completely away from Windows, I haven't 
 found any music notation software that works with the Mac. 
 Tom Frank
 vermonttom@gmail.c
  
  anti virus for my new mac
 Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com Apr 20 10:14PM -0400  
 
 Hello All,
  
 I'm new here  new to mac, but have been working my way through David 
 Woodbridge  Mike (from how to be blind) Podcast series, both are excellent 
 BTW. 
  
 Anyway, I was wanting to know which antivirus program you use? Do you use 
 Avast? I saw that was recommended in a magazine I saw for getting started 
 with the mac. I'd like to be protected before I start downloading things 
 from the net, like Skype. 
  
 I'm slowly getting there. Last week I think I was nearly successful at 
 downloading silverlight to fill out some forms for my doctor, I was able to 
 click on the download now icon, but I don't know what to do next. I somehow 
 found that I'd tried to download it 3 times, but since there was a cancel 
 option I did that and just had them help me when I got to the doctor's. So, 
 that leads me to my next question, when downloading something from the net, 
 how do we access it? I think silverlight is some sort of plug in and not 
 something that I'm likely to need again but I know I want skype and some 
 antivirus. so, I've guessed that there is a different process from 
 downloading things from the App Store as I did the type2phone successfully 
 and going through Safari to download things. 
  
 Thanks in advance. 
  
 Katey 
  
 Sent from my iPad
  
 Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net Apr 20 09:26PM -0500  
 
 I'd go for ClamxaV. Here's another tip. Download it directly from the 
 developer's site and not from the app store. Why? The app store version does 
 not come with Clam Century which activly monitors all your folders once 
 you've set it up that way. Easy to understand and fully accessible.
  
  
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
  
  
  silver dollar app question.
 Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com Apr 20 10:04PM -0400  
 
 I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, 
 that was free, but when I clicked the download app, option, it did 
 nothing, and the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found 
 strange. Does anyone know anything about this?
 I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
 nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
 before I purchased the Mac version.
  
  Help with VMWare Fusion
 Yolanda Thompson ylt...@gmail.com Apr 20 06:03PM -0600  
 
 Ok, I got it installed--vmware that is--and I cannot figure out how to
 launch the
 window below the toolbar that brings me into windows. Then, when I
 hit alt-f4 in
 the windows it throws me out to the mac screen and I cannot get back.
 And, how on earth dos everyone find out the keystrokes for mac apps? I have 
 not
 had luck.
 HELP! LOL
  
 Kliphton A M kliph...@gmail.com Apr 20 07:10PM -0500  
 
 I could help you better by skype or over the phone, what works better for 
 you? My info is in my signature.
 
 Kliphton Senior
 (EmailiMessage) kliph...@gmail.com
 (TwitterSkype) kliphton72
 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
 (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
 http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
  
  
 Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com Apr 20 09:54PM -0400  
 
 I was hoping you'd answer onlist as I have long wanted to have those same 
 questions answered. that is, after all, what the list is for.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kliphton A M 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Help with VMWare Fusion
  
  
 I could help you better by skype or over the phone, what works better for 
 you? My info is in my signature.
  
  
 

Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Alex Hall
It's happened to me as well, and I have no idea why. I've mostly noticed it in 
YoruFukurou, but it will sometimes happen in other apps as well. As you've 
found, interacting with the edit box stops it.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying Apple 
 submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual characters in 
 simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and then hit the 
 return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or cursor around in 
 there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit control yet. For me, I 
 keep hearing that phrase every time I move the cursor or type. Now if I 
 interact then it stops doing that. I also get this in TextEdit if I don't 
 interact there but that is obviously a place where I would always want to 
 interact. I've never had this situation in the past; has anyone here 
 experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying Apple submenu I 
 don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
 
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Re: silver dollar app question.

2013-04-21 Thread Alex Hall
That is odd. It's only for the Mac as far as I know. Personally, if only for 
the shooting game and to support development of Mac audio games, I think it is 
well worth the two dollars.
On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, that 
 was free, but when I clicked the download app, option, it did nothing, and 
 the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found strange.  
 Does anyone know anything about this?
  I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
 nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
 before I purchased the Mac version.
 
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Re: silver dollar app question.

2013-04-21 Thread Jessica Moss
Is there a podcast that I can here on it?  I liked the shooting part as well 
when I stumbled across it on the pin ball game and always hated to see it end 
sense for whatever reason I loved to here the stuff breaking and people 
screaming at the same time.

Sent from my iPhone

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 That is odd. It's only for the Mac as far as I know. Personally, if only for 
 the shooting game and to support development of Mac audio games, I think it 
 is well worth the two dollars.
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, 
 that was free, but when I clicked the download app, option, it did 
 nothing, and the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found 
 strange.  Does anyone know anything about this?
 I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
 nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
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Re: silver dollar app question.

2013-04-21 Thread Jessica Moss
Is there a scoring system with that game?  Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

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 That is odd. It's only for the Mac as far as I know. Personally, if only for 
 the shooting game and to support development of Mac audio games, I think it 
 is well worth the two dollars.
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, 
 that was free, but when I clicked the download app, option, it did 
 nothing, and the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found 
 strange.  Does anyone know anything about this?
 I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
 nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
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Re: Type2Phone free this weekend

2013-04-21 Thread Yolanda

On 4/20/2013 6:46 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

I'm loving it so far.

On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:


Hi Stacey,

I'm glad to hear that! If you need anymore help, don't hesitate to ask. It 
really is a fantastic app.

On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Rachel,
I got things going this morning.
Totally cool.

On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:


Activate a text field on your phone, turn quick Nav off on your mac, and be in 
the Type2Phone app. You should be good to go and able to type.

On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:


I now have my phone and mac comunicating. How do I start doing things with it 
now.

On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:


Hi Alex,
I can't seem to get my mac running sl to pair with my phone.
What are the steps I need to take.
Stacey

On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:


Hi all,
Type2Phone lets your Mac act like a bluetooth keyboard for your iOS device. You 
just pair the two machines, then it automatically sets everything up and is 
ready to go whenever you cmd-tab into the app. There are even menu items to 
issue special commands for Voiceover, and the app is fully accessible. It is 
normally $4.99, but is currently free. Just open the Mac App Store and search 
for Type2phone, no spaces, the number 2. I have no idea if there's a Windows 
version. Enjoy.


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Re: finder crashes when opening external disk

2013-04-21 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Paul,
sounds to me like a bug in OS X 10.7 Lion. All you have to do is finding a way 
to copy a file or a folder to the root. Then Lion can open the Volume. Or you 
upgreat to Mountain Lion. 
All the best
Jürgen

Am 21.04.2013 um 11:51 schrieb Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com:

 Paul,
 
 You're doing everything I would have done with one suggestion.  Have you gone 
 into Disk Utility and tried to repair/verify the disk, and its permissions?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:58 AM
 Subject: finder crashes when opening external disk
 
 
 Dear listers,
 
 I have a Western Digital 1tb drive attached to my mac. Its file system is mac 
 os extended, journaled, so that should all be fine. However, when I go to 
 this drive in finder, by simply hitting command down arrow on its volume icon 
 on the desktop, finder crashes. Voiceover says I'm still on the desktop, but 
 my wife says she sees a window with 2 buttons: reopen, or cancel. I cannot 
 reach this window myself using command accent, nor with vo twice f1, nor by 
 turning vo off and back on. If my wife clicks the error window, then yes I 
 can see it with vo.
 
 While googling, I found a solution that advises to delete all mac files from 
 the root. I think they mean, delete all dot files and let os10 create those 
 from scratch. But I have no way to get into the drive.
 
 This is a fresh mac os10 installation, and I haven't been in terminal since, 
 but when I open terminal and then press my braille display up key, VoiceOver 
 says last login, and then a date. I should normally be able to read the 
 previous line in terminal, i.e. the result of my commands. I need to find out 
 how to get terminal on its feet again, but that's a different problem.
 
 I'm hoping to find a way to solve this finder crash when opening the external 
 drive, starting by deleting the files on its root that start with a period. 
 According to a post I found on the net, that may solve finder crashes when 
 opening an external drive. I tried command g, go to folder in finder, but 
 that command crashes finder as well, when I type in /volumes/macserver1. 
 macserver1 is the volume label of the external drive.
 
 Any ideas? What can I do to let finder open this drive? CrashPlan is backing 
 it up just fine, so it should be accessible to the os. It's just that finder 
 has problems with it. Any advice?
 
 Paul.
 
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Re: Type2Phone free this weekend

2013-04-21 Thread Kaare Dehard
Hi there, had the same troubles. I approached it from the mac side of things. I 
asked the mac from the bluetooth menu to set up the device. two go-m's will get 
you to the extras menu. From blootooth menu, just go to setup device. When the 
iPhone is detected select. You will hear a pairing request from the iOS device 
which needs to be given the okay from the device but it should work out 
alright. Got mine working like that.
On 2013-04-21, at 8:30 AM, Yolanda ylt...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 4/20/2013 6:46 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 I'm loving it so far.
 
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
 
 Hi Stacey,
 
 I'm glad to hear that! If you need anymore help, don't hesitate to ask. It 
 really is a fantastic app.
 
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
 
 Rachel,
 I got things going this morning.
 Totally cool.
 
 On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
 
 Activate a text field on your phone, turn quick Nav off on your mac, and 
 be in the Type2Phone app. You should be good to go and able to type.
 
 On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
 
 I now have my phone and mac comunicating. How do I start doing things 
 with it now.
 
 On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 I can't seem to get my mac running sl to pair with my phone.
 What are the steps I need to take.
 Stacey
 
 On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Type2Phone lets your Mac act like a bluetooth keyboard for your iOS 
 device. You just pair the two machines, then it automatically sets 
 everything up and is ready to go whenever you cmd-tab into the app. 
 There are even menu items to issue special commands for Voiceover, and 
 the app is fully accessible. It is normally $4.99, but is currently 
 free. Just open the Mac App Store and search for Type2phone, no 
 spaces, the number 2. I have no idea if there's a Windows version. 
 Enjoy.
 
 
 Have a great day,
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 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Regarding ZCaptcha

2013-04-21 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

My safari went busy when I installed the rumola extension. I succeded in the 
end, but it took me several times of trying. I found the extension in my 
downloads folder and opened it, VoiceOver said nothing, at last I succeded, but 
is there a way to succeed the first time when installing such extensions.

Best regards Annie.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 Found their plugins instructions for voiceover on safari:
 
 http://www.skipinput.com/bps/safari.html
 
 and to install the plugin for Firefox, Chrome or Safari follow the links here:
 
 http://www.skipinput.com/bps/install.html
 
 They do not currently have a plugin for iOS but I think their browser detect 
 is broken and thinks any instance of Safari is on an iOS device.
 
 CB
 
 On 4/20/13 7:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 Know what, I got the same thing.  Wonder if maybe it's an outdated page or 
 something.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 Tried, but the site told me that the extension doesn't support Safari.
 Warm regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 Sent from my macbook pro
 
 Contact me:
 
 Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
 
 Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 My ring to Skype:
 California, United States
   +(1)760-5140161  
 Extension 512
 Cape Town, South Africa
+(27)213-002317  
 Extension 161
 Johannesburg, South Africa
 +(27)105-002316
 Extension 170
 
 Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007
 
 SIP: 5500...@spokn.com
 
 Twitter: brandtsteenkamp
 
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 12:44 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yep, it works perfectly with Safari.
 
 Brandon
 
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 So, this plugs in to Safari then?  Must check it out.  Thanks.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Many of you have tried ZCaptcha over the past 7 months since its release.
 
 Another captcha solving service has come to my attention in the past 
 month, called Rumola. For those who have not used it, basically it is a 
 browser plugin that automatically fills captchas when it finds one on a 
 page.
 
 I installed it on March 26 and have been using it since then. Every time 
 Im on a form with a captcha, I can't say how surprised I am every time 
 I reach the captcha field and it is already filled in.
 
 I have no intention of getting into browser plugins. I developed 
 something in a time when there wasn't much available for the Mac, 
 according to the resources I had available. However, I admit that Rumola 
 is a better service, and for me has been 100% accurate in the time I 
 have used it.
 
 I really have no interest in continuing to develop and improve ZCaptcha, 
 especially because I'm so happy using Rumola.
 
 Right now I'm focused on my cloud Web hosting, so I really don't have 
 time to work on much else.
 
 Anyway, ZCaptcha is still active and still being used by some, but I'm 
 just saying publicly that there will be no updates to it, and that I 
 would recommend Rumola from now on.
 
 
 
 
 God bless,
 Brandon Olivares
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

2013-04-21 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Yolanda and Phil,

Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, and 
then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: windows 
is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo down arrow 
some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. Easy, isn't it?

2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that the 
key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and the mac 
option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, instead functions 
as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you are used to the layout 
of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is not what you want, because 
by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt is windows key, and the 
windows key does alt.

To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When fusion 
is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion preferences. 
Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different screens. You can 
switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at the top of the 
screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and mouse shortcuts. The 
screen for that will open.

Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how to 
handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have a 
listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is pressed. 
For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the windows logo 
key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further more, fusion also 
assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, which is copy, but you 
don't want alt c to be the same as control c in windows, do you? So, clear out 
all definitions in this listbox and start over with what you want yourself.

Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.

Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. The 
add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, field. 
In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the from section 
for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the rest, leave the 
entire from section for what it is. You only need to check this command key 
box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, check it, and hit 
okay. There you have your command key, the one next to spacebar, defined as alt 
in windows. All you did was hit add, check command key in the from section, and 
make that key do alt, in the to section.

Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In other 
words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, the 
second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the windows 
key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add again, 
check option in the from section, and in the to section for this definition, 
find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, holds the windows 
logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel natural.

Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens by 
default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely land 
in finder, the applications window, the mac desktop or any other place. This is 
because by default, the command or alt tab key combination, if you don't do 
anything about it, will be sent to the mac, and not to windows.

To correct this, look in the fusion preferences, the third tab sheet, which is 
reachable via the toolbar, is called mac os shortcuts. In other words, when you 
fire up fusion and windows is still off, hit command comma to open fusion's 
preferences, find the toolbar, interact, find mac os shortcuts, hit vo space, 
stop interact.
In this window, there's a simple checkbox that you can turn off, labeled enable 
mac os keyboard shortcuts. . This will turn off Exposé keys, as well as command 
tab. Hit command w to close the fusion preferences window and save your new key 
mappings. From now on, if you alt tab while you are in windows, then windows 
will obey, instead of os 10  sending you into the woods, unintentionally.

Another thing you will want to do in windows, assuming you 

Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

2013-04-21 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Esther.

I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately the 
field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically uses the 
author and the title.

It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I think 
I will need to make a donation.

Cheers Annie.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Annie, 
 
 If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use some 
 of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate changing 
 the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the epub files 
 use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is just name, 
 which is the same as the name track for music tracks.   And for my ePub 
 books, the author is entered into the artist field. Probably the This Tag 
 That Tag AppleScript could be used for this.  From the description, I think 
 the way this AppleScript works is that you select your tracks in iTunes, then 
 you run the script, which you just locate by name This Tag That Tag under 
 the scripts menu.  This menu shows up once you copy the AppleScript to a 
 Library/iTunes/Scripts folder under your user account.  If you have never 
 used AppleScripts in iTunes before, you'll have to create the Scripts 
 folder in this location.  Once you've selected this AppleScript, a dialog 
 menu should come up to let you choose what action you want to take with your 
 tags: copy, append, swap, or prepend.  In this case you'd select copy.  
 Then you'd select the metadata tag fields that you'd want to use.  So maybe 
 in this case you'd want to copy the album tag to the name tag, or the 
 artist tag to the name tag.   I'm making up these examples, because I 
 don't actually know how your ePub files are tagged, or even which fields you 
 are using.  Just note that these changes are not reversible, so if you want 
 to be extra cautious, make a set of copies of your tracks beforehand.  And 
 just choose one ePub book to try the AppleScript out with before you run this 
 with several files selected.  
 
 It's also possible that there's a better AppleScript to use for the purposes 
 that you want under the Managing Track Info group of AppleScripts at that 
 site.  I haven't used (or even downloaded) the AppleScript in question, 
 although I have previously used other AppleScripts from this site before.
 
 I think you want to get the This Tag That Tag AppleScript from this URL at 
 the dougscripts.com site:
 http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=thistagthattag
 
 The AppleScript This Tag That Tag v.3.2 can be found as a heading level 2.  
 Navigate with VO-Down arrow to read the description and then to read the 
 group of two download links for downloading the script and the read me pdf 
 file.  There's also a heading level 3 description of how to download  
 install that explains that the download file will be a .zip that opens as a 
 .dmg file. (Navigate with VO-Down arrow here, as well, to read the 
 description.)  It also explains that you should put the script contents of 
 the of the .dmg file into your ~/Library/iTunes/Scripts folder, and that you 
 may have to create the Scripts folder if this is your first AppleScript under 
 iTunes.  Just use standard Finder navigation (e.g. use Command-Shift-G to go 
 to folder, and then type or paste in the path:
 ~/LIbrary/iTunes/
 -- or tilde slash Library slash iTunes for the directory, then create the 
 Scripts folder, and navigate to it.  You can copy and paste the AppleScript 
 to this location.  You can also save the Read me file somewhere convenient.
 
 There may be other scripts you can use, but this seemed to be one suited to 
 your requirements.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 19 Apr 2013, at 05:32, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have some epub files which has some rather strange file names, can I 
 change them based on the metadata of the files.
 
 It would be great if there is a way to convert multiple files to correct 
 file names based on e.g. the title field or maybe  also the author field of 
 the metadata, does anyone know how I can do that. I have tried playing a 
 little with ITunes, but I can not get ITunes to do what I want.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
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Re: pdf files when in a web site

2013-04-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Take a look in the Library folder of your Macintosh HD volume.  Look for 
Internet Plug-Ins.  There should be two items related to Adobe Reader right 
near the top of the list.  Try deleting the first plug-in and see what happens 
for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-04-21, at 5:33 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi guys 
 Someone may have addressed this somewhere, but I can't remember. If you're in 
 a web site and you want to look at a pdf file, is there a way to tell Safari 
 that you want to use Preview instead of Adobe Acrobat Reader. Somewhere along 
 the way I got Adobe Reader on my Mac, and I guess I should really take it off 
 so I don't end up with what might as well be a blank screen if I call up a 
 pdf file. I suppose I could save the file out and then reload it again in 
 Preview, but it would be nice not to need to do that. 
 
 Regards,
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

2013-04-21 Thread Les Kriegler
Paul, this is very helpful.  My question here is if you re-assign the Command 
key to function as an Alt key, how would you switch between the Mac OS and 
Windows?  Thanks.

Les
On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Yolanda and Phil,
 
 Let's not make this more complicated than it is.
 
 1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
 menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
 you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, 
 and then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: 
 windows is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo 
 down arrow some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. 
 Easy, isn't it?
 
 2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
 fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that 
 the key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and 
 the mac option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, instead 
 functions as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you are used to 
 the layout of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is not what you 
 want, because by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt is windows 
 key, and the windows key does alt.
 
 To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When 
 fusion is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion 
 preferences. Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different 
 screens. You can switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at 
 the top of the screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and 
 mouse shortcuts. The screen for that will open.
 
 Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how 
 to handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have a 
 listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is pressed. 
 For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the windows 
 logo key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further more, fusion 
 also assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, which is copy, 
 but you don't want alt c to be the same as control c in windows, do you? So, 
 clear out all definitions in this listbox and start over with what you want 
 yourself.
 
 Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
 button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
 the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
 definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.
 
 Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. 
 The add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, 
 field. In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the from 
 section for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the rest, 
 leave the entire from section for what it is. You only need to check this 
 command key box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, check 
 it, and hit okay. There you have your command key, the one next to spacebar, 
 defined as alt in windows. All you did was hit add, check command key in the 
 from section, and make that key do alt, in the to section.
 
 Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In other 
 words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, the 
 second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the 
 windows key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add 
 again, check option in the from section, and in the to section for this 
 definition, find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, holds 
 the windows logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel natural.
 
 Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
 falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
 track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens by 
 default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely land 
 in finder, the applications window, the mac desktop or any other place. This 
 is because by default, the command or alt tab key combination, if you don't 
 do anything about it, will be sent to the mac, and not to windows.
 
 To correct this, look in the fusion preferences, the third tab sheet, which 
 is reachable via the toolbar, is called mac os shortcuts. In other words, 
 when you fire up fusion and windows is still off, hit command comma to open 
 fusion's preferences, find the toolbar, interact, find mac os shortcuts, hit 
 vo space, stop interact.
 In this window, there's a simple checkbox that you can turn off, labeled 
 enable mac os keyboard shortcuts. . This will turn 

Re: finder crashes when opening external disk

2013-04-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Just a possible typo or clarification with your original post, did you try 
VO-f2-f2 to bring up the Window Chooser to possibly bring focus to that dialog?

I'm wondering if there are any firmware upgrades for that HD.  I've had issues 
with WD drives in the past that were addressed by firmware upgrades to the 
drive itself.  These upgrades can usually be found on the Western Digital site.

Alternatively, as long as you can confirm that the external drive has been 
backed up properly, try this Terminal command:

sudo rm -rf /Volumes/Drive_Name/.*

This is a very scary command as you can accidentally delete the entire contents 
of the drive, if entered incorrectly, thus my caution about making sure that 
the drive was backed up.

Regarding Terminal not reading the line that you just entered, you may need to 
interact one more level in oder to view those entries.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-04-20, at 5:58 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear listers,
 
 I have a Western Digital 1tb drive attached to my mac. Its file system is mac 
 os extended, journaled, so that should all be fine. However, when I go to 
 this drive in finder, by simply hitting command down arrow on its volume icon 
 on the desktop, finder crashes. Voiceover says I'm still on the desktop, but 
 my wife says she sees a window with 2 buttons: reopen, or cancel. I cannot 
 reach this window myself using command accent, nor with vo twice f1, nor by 
 turning vo off and back on. If my wife clicks the error window, then yes I 
 can see it with vo.
 
 While googling, I found a solution that advises to delete all mac files from 
 the root. I think they mean, delete all dot files and let os10 create those 
 from scratch. But I have no way to get into the drive.
 
 This is a fresh mac os10 installation, and I haven't been in terminal since, 
 but when I open terminal and then press my braille display up key, VoiceOver 
 says last login, and then a date. I should normally be able to read the 
 previous line in terminal, i.e. the result of my commands. I need to find out 
 how to get terminal on its feet again, but that's a different problem. 
 
 I'm hoping to find a way to solve this finder crash when opening the external 
 drive, starting by deleting the files on its root that start with a period. 
 According to a post I found on the net, that may solve finder crashes when 
 opening an external drive. I tried command g, go to folder in finder, but 
 that command crashes finder as well, when I type in /volumes/macserver1. 
 macserver1 is the volume label of the external drive.
 
 Any ideas? What can I do to let finder open this drive? CrashPlan is backing 
 it up just fine, so it should be accessible to the os. It's just that finder 
 has problems with it. Any advice?
 
 Paul.
 
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

2013-04-21 Thread anouk radix

Dear Les,
He explained this in his message if you read through it. you can disable 
fusion sending keys to the mac when windows is turned on.

Greetings, Anouk,
Op 21/04/2013 17:06, Les Kriegler schreef:

Paul, this is very helpful.  My question here is if you re-assign the Command 
key to function as an Alt key, how would you switch between the Mac OS and 
Windows?  Thanks.

Les
On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Yolanda and Phil,

Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, and 
then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: windows 
is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo down arrow 
some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. Easy, isn't it?

2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that the 
key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and the mac 
option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, instead functions 
as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you are used to the layout 
of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is not what you want, because 
by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt is windows key, and the 
windows key does alt.

To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When fusion 
is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion preferences. 
Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different screens. You can 
switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at the top of the 
screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and mouse shortcuts. The 
screen for that will open.

Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how to 
handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have a 
listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is pressed. 
For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the windows logo 
key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further more, fusion also 
assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, which is copy, but you 
don't want alt c to be the same as control c in windows, do you? So, clear out 
all definitions in this listbox and start over with what you want yourself.

Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.

Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. The 
add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, field. 
In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the from section 
for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the rest, leave the 
entire from section for what it is. You only need to check this command key 
box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, check it, and hit 
okay. There you have your command key, the one next to spacebar, defined as alt 
in windows. All you did was hit add, check command key in the from section, and 
make that key do alt, in the to section.

Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In other 
words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, the 
second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the windows 
key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add again, 
check option in the from section, and in the to section for this definition, 
find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, holds the windows 
logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel natural.

Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens by 
default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely land 
in finder, the applications window, the mac desktop or any other place. This is 
because by default, the command or alt tab key combination, if you don't do 
anything about it, will be sent to the mac, and not to windows.

To correct this, look in the fusion preferences, the third tab sheet, which is 
reachable via the toolbar, is called mac os shortcuts. In other words, when you 
fire up fusion and windows is still off, hit command comma to open fusion's 
preferences, find the toolbar, interact, find mac os shortcuts, hit vo space, 
stop 

Re: Converting Columns to Rows in Numbers

2013-04-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Kevin,

Note the total number of rows in your Raw Input sheet, then try this:

• In the first column of your second worksheet, enter the digit 1 in A1 then 
enter the formula =A1+4 in A2.  Then start from A2 selecting down with 
shift-down arrow until VO announces that you've selected the correct number of 
rows.  That is, if there are 1000 rows in the Raw Input Sheet, you need to hear 
VO say 249 Rows Selected.  One less than a quarter due to only selecting from 
A2 on.  This process should place the numbers 1, 5, 9, 13 and so on within 
column A of your sheet.

• Next, we'll pretend that there are 1000 rows in the Raw Input Sheet.  In cell 
B1 of your second sheet, enter the formula =index(Raw Input::Table 
1::$a$1:$a$1000,a1).  What this should do is tell NUmbers to look at the first 
row of Raw Input, Table 1 for a value and place it into cell B1.

• For cell C1, enter the formula =index(Raw Input::Table 
1::$a$1:$a$1000,a1+1).  This tells Numbers to look at row 2 for this entry.

• For cell D1, enter the formula =index(Raw Input::Table 
1::$a$1:$a$1000,a1+2).  This tells Numbers to look at row 3 for this entry.

• For cell E1, enter the formula =index(Raw Input::Table 
1::$a$1:$a$1000,a1+3).  This tells Numbers to look at row 4 for this entry.

• Now, you should be able to use the Insert menu, Fill Down for each of columns 
B, C, D and E individually.  For example, for Column B, go to cell B1 then hold 
down your shift key and arrow down until you've selected 250 rows as announced 
by VO.  Go up to the Insert menu, down to Fill and over and down to the Down 
to Fill this formula down the rest of the column.  All your song titles should 
appear in this column.

• Do the same process for each of the other three columns and you should get 
your desired result.

Note that you won't be able to delete the items in the Raw Input Sheet because, 
if you do, all the data is gone and thus you're referencing cells that are 
empty.

Hope this helps and sorry if I typed any errors in the syntax of the 
Sheet/Table/Cell REferences.

Good luck.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-04-20, at 2:42 PM, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Tim. One more question for anyone else on this thread.
 
 The method you mentioned is great for a list, however, what I need to do is 
 convert four line blocks of text into four columns. 
 
 In other words, I need to convert:
 
 Bananas
 No Doubt
 Columbia Records
 Sony Music Inc.
 Get Lucky
 Daft Punk
 Columbia Records
 Sony Music Inc.
 Heartbroken
 Meaghan Smith
 Capitol Records
 Warner Music/BMG
 
 to:
 
 Bananas   No DoubtColumbiaSony Music INc.
 Get Lucky Daft Punk   Columbia Sony Music Inc.
 Heartbroken   Meaghan Smith   Capitol Warner/BMG
 
 and so on.
 
 What I've done is pasted everything as a single column in my first worksheet 
 which I've called Raw Input. 
 
 In my second sheet, I've put a formula in to reference the Raw Input sheet 
 and cell that I need. So, in the prior example, all song titles are listed 
 like this:
 =Raw Input:Table 1:A1
 =Raw Input:Table 1:A5
 =Raw Input:Table 1:A9
 
 In the next column, I've reiterated the process, however starting at A2 and 
 going every 4 cells.
 
 I'm wondering if there's a formula to automate this process, like telling 
 Numbers to fill down the column with every nth cell. If there's a way to do 
 this, I'd save myself lots of time!
 
 Thanks,
 Kevin
 
 On 2013-04-20, at 4:29 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 How about you try this in TextEdit:
 
 1.  Open the document.
 2.  Make sure the document is in Plain Text from under the Format menu.
 3.  Press cmd-f to bring up the Find dialog.
 4.  In the Find field, press Option-return.  That's pressing the return key 
 while the Option key is down.
 5.  In the Replace field, press Option-tab.  That's pressing the tab-key 
 while the Option key is down.
 
 What this does is look for return characters and replace them with tab 
 characters.  Now when you import this into Numbers, it will place the items 
 horizontally instead of vertically.
 
 The issue that may arise though, is that if you use the Replace All 
 functionality, the entire document will go across the Spreadsheet in columns 
 which may not be your desired result.  What I'd do to fix this, is search 
 for the key words like Incorporated in Sony Music Incorporated then 
 replace the tab in that case with a return.  You may wish to search for the 
 exact phrase, not just Incorporated so that things like Frustrated 
 Incorporated or Pop Music do not confuse your replacing operation.  Using 
 this method, it should be able to essentially, divide these into groups so 
 that those four items are placed in a row then the next song or item is 
 placed within the next row.  You'll need to do this in the order I've 
 mentioned here as the tabs must be created first then the return dividers 
 second.
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 

The insert key in VMware fusion

2013-04-21 Thread Brandt
Hi there folks,

I have a copy of Windows 7 in VMware fusion, but I'm not using it at this point 
in time due to the fact that the insert key, the modifier key for both Jaws and 
NVDA refuse to be mapped by Sharp keys, and no matter what I do, CapsLock is 
always picked up by the Mac.

The only solution I know of, is to use a second keyboard. Is there any others? 
I would be happy, for then I don't need to plug in the secondary keyboard into 
the Mac.

Thanks so long.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

Sent from my macbook pro

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Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

2013-04-21 Thread Esther
Hi Annie,

I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the File 
Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that you can't 
change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's AppleScripts, is 
that there's usually a text box filled with a default value.  I just downloaded 
the script to check.  Did you try clicking in the text box so you could edit 
it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, you may think that you can't edit 
the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, and then I could delete the default 
string:
[artist] - [name]
Remember that each of the arguments like artist and name is surrounded by 
brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to examine 
one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields are used. 
Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to Get Info, and examine the Info 
tab. My O'Reilly books use name, artist, and album, where name and 
album, give the title of the book, and artist gives the author.  My iPhone 
user guides from iBooks only use name and artist.  Do not try to type in a 
field like [author], because that's not a tag that iTunes uses.  If, for 
example, you wanted to use the author, you would delete references to [name] 
and have the text argument only contain a string like:
[artist]
I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on title. 
If the title information is under the comments field, and you wanted to 
replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type in:
[comments]
Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be a 
valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for you ePub 
books.  Maybe the description field is used for title information. You can 
activate it in the View menu options by bringing up the window with Command-J 
and checking the box for description. None of my ePub books use this field, 
and you won't find it on the Info tab, but you can set your library to 
display this.

HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is that 
you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  They're buried 
under the Package contents of the script under Resources  Scripts  main.scpt. 
 This used to be a great way to learn about AppleScript coding. This didn't 
seem like Doug's style of writing AppleScripts, and I found out that this was a 
contributed AppleScript from someone else that he re-wrote.

By the way, I thought that the This Tag That Tag AppleScript might also 
rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
folder and file names then match the tags.   

Cheers,

Esther

On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi Esther.
 
 I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
 should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately the 
 field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically uses 
 the author and the title.
 
 It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
 think I will need to make a donation.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie, 
 
 If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
 some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
 changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
 epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is just 
 name, which is the same as the name track for music tracks.   And for my 
 ePub books, the author is entered into the artist field. Probably the 
 This Tag That Tag AppleScript could be used for this.  From the 
 description, I think the way this AppleScript works is that you select your 
 tracks in iTunes, then you run the script, which you just locate by name 
 This Tag That Tag under the scripts menu.  This menu shows up once you 
 copy the AppleScript to a Library/iTunes/Scripts folder under your user 
 account.  If you have never used AppleScripts in iTunes before, you'll have 
 to create the Scripts folder in this location.  Once you've selected this 
 AppleScript, a dialog menu should come up to let you choose what action you 
 want to take with your tags: copy, append, swap, or prepend.  In this case 
 you'd select copy.  Then you'd select the metadata tag fields that you'd 
 want to use.  So maybe in this case you'd want to copy the album tag to 
 the name tag, or the artist tag to the name tag.   I'm making up these 
 examples, because I don't actually know how your ePub files are tagged, or 
 even which fields you are using.  Just note that these changes are not 
 reversible, so if you want to be extra cautious, make a set of copies of 
 your tracks beforehand.  And just choose one ePub book to try the 
 AppleScript out with before you run this with several files selected.  
 
 It's also possible that there's a 

Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

2013-04-21 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Esther.

I could not do that vo+shift click, I have tried a lot of times. I tried to 
press vo+command+f5, I have also tried that before, but suddenly I could press 
vo+shift+space, and I was not thrown out of the program, and I could delete the 
content of the field and write something else.

Thank you.

Cheers Annie.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Annie,
 
 I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the 
 File Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that 
 you can't change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's 
 AppleScripts, is that there's usually a text box filled with a default value. 
  I just downloaded the script to check.  Did you try clicking in the text box 
 so you could edit it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, you may think 
 that you can't edit the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, and then I could 
 delete the default string:
 [artist] - [name]
 Remember that each of the arguments like artist and name is surrounded by 
 brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to 
 examine one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields are 
 used. Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to Get Info, and examine the 
 Info tab. My O'Reilly books use name, artist, and album, where name 
 and album, give the title of the book, and artist gives the author.  My 
 iPhone user guides from iBooks only use name and artist.  Do not try to 
 type in a field like [author], because that's not a tag that iTunes uses.  
 If, for example, you wanted to use the author, you would delete references to 
 [name] and have the text argument only contain a string like:
 [artist]
 I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on 
 title. If the title information is under the comments field, and you wanted 
 to replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type in:
 [comments]
 Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be a 
 valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for you 
 ePub books.  Maybe the description field is used for title information. You 
 can activate it in the View menu options by bringing up the window with 
 Command-J and checking the box for description. None of my ePub books use 
 this field, and you won't find it on the Info tab, but you can set your 
 library to display this.
 
 HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is that 
 you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  They're buried 
 under the Package contents of the script under Resources  Scripts  
 main.scpt.  This used to be a great way to learn about AppleScript coding. 
 This didn't seem like Doug's style of writing AppleScripts, and I found out 
 that this was a contributed AppleScript from someone else that he re-wrote.
 
 By the way, I thought that the This Tag That Tag AppleScript might also 
 rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
 folder and file names then match the tags.   
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Esther.
 
 I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
 should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately the 
 field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically uses 
 the author and the title.
 
 It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
 think I will need to make a donation.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie, 
 
 If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
 some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
 changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
 epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is just 
 name, which is the same as the name track for music tracks.   And for 
 my ePub books, the author is entered into the artist field. Probably the 
 This Tag That Tag AppleScript could be used for this.  From the 
 description, I think the way this AppleScript works is that you select your 
 tracks in iTunes, then you run the script, which you just locate by name 
 This Tag That Tag under the scripts menu.  This menu shows up once you 
 copy the AppleScript to a Library/iTunes/Scripts folder under your user 
 account.  If you have never used AppleScripts in iTunes before, you'll have 
 to create the Scripts folder in this location.  Once you've selected this 
 AppleScript, a dialog menu should come up to let you choose what action you 
 want to take with your tags: copy, append, swap, or prepend.  In this case 
 you'd select copy.  Then you'd select the metadata tag fields that you'd 
 want to use.  So maybe in this case you'd want to copy the album tag to 
 the name tag, or the artist tag to the name 

Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

2013-04-21 Thread Esther
Hi Annie,

Not sure, but I think what I did was first interact with the text field and 
then do VO-Shift-Space to click, and then I could delete the text in the File 
Renamer text box dialog window.  I don't think that I tried routing my mouse 
cursor there first, since I was able to do the click after interacting.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 
On 21 Apr 2013, at 07:16, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi Esther.
 
 I could not do that vo+shift click, I have tried a lot of times. I tried to 
 press vo+command+f5, I have also tried that before, but suddenly I could 
 press vo+shift+space, and I was not thrown out of the program, and I could 
 delete the content of the field and write something else.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the 
 File Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that 
 you can't change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's 
 AppleScripts, is that there's usually a text box filled with a default 
 value.  I just downloaded the script to check.  Did you try clicking in the 
 text box so you could edit it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, you 
 may think that you can't edit the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, and 
 then I could delete the default string:
 [artist] - [name]
 Remember that each of the arguments like artist and name is surrounded 
 by brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to 
 examine one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields are 
 used. Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to Get Info, and examine the 
 Info tab. My O'Reilly books use name, artist, and album, where 
 name and album, give the title of the book, and artist gives the 
 author.  My iPhone user guides from iBooks only use name and artist.  Do 
 not try to type in a field like [author], because that's not a tag that 
 iTunes uses.  If, for example, you wanted to use the author, you would 
 delete references to [name] and have the text argument only contain a 
 string like:
 [artist]
 I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on 
 title. If the title information is under the comments field, and you 
 wanted to replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type 
 in:
 [comments]
 Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be a 
 valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for you 
 ePub books.  Maybe the description field is used for title information. 
 You can activate it in the View menu options by bringing up the window 
 with Command-J and checking the box for description. None of my ePub books 
 use this field, and you won't find it on the Info tab, but you can set 
 your library to display this.
 
 HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is that 
 you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  They're 
 buried under the Package contents of the script under Resources  Scripts  
 main.scpt.  This used to be a great way to learn about AppleScript coding. 
 This didn't seem like Doug's style of writing AppleScripts, and I found out 
 that this was a contributed AppleScript from someone else that he re-wrote.
 
 By the way, I thought that the This Tag That Tag AppleScript might also 
 rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
 folder and file names then match the tags.   
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Esther.
 
 I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
 should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately 
 the field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically 
 uses the author and the title.
 
 It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
 think I will need to make a donation.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie, 
 
 If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
 some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
 changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
 epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is 
 just name, which is the same as the name track for music tracks.   And 
 for my ePub books, the author is entered into the artist field. Probably 
 the This Tag That Tag AppleScript could be used for this.  From the 
 description, I think the way this AppleScript works is that you select 
 your tracks in iTunes, then you run the script, which you just locate by 
 name This Tag That Tag under the scripts menu.  This menu shows up once 
 you copy the AppleScript to a Library/iTunes/Scripts folder under your 
 user account.  If you have never used AppleScripts in iTunes before, 
 you'll have to create the 

Re: The insert key in VMware fusion

2013-04-21 Thread anouk radix
Hi Brandt, Pl;ease review the message that was posted by Paul earlier 
today. You can map insert with vmware fusion itself, for caps lock you 
will still have to use sharp keys, if you want to use it as a modifier 
key instead of just a toggle. As far as I know this should work with 
sharp keys and win7 but i am not sure about win8. (I personally hope i 
wont need the caps lock for nvda desktop layout anymore).

hth
Greetings, Anouk,
Op 21/04/2013 18:45, Brandt schreef:

Hi there folks,

I have a copy of Windows 7 in VMware fusion, but I'm not using it at 
this point in time due to the fact that the insert key, the modifier 
key for both Jaws and NVDA refuse to be mapped by Sharp keys, and no 
matter what I do, CapsLock is always picked up by the Mac.


The only solution I know of, is to use a second keyboard. Is there any 
others? I would be happy, for then I don't need to plug in the 
secondary keyboard into the Mac.


Thanks so long.

Warm regards,

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Re: Very slow Internet on one Mac, but not another.

2013-04-21 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
One other thing to look at is traceroute timings. Traceroute is an area in the 
Network Utility. Pick a well known  server that has dfferent speeds for the two 
computers and try to do a traceroute to it. This is a way to ask the network 
how you get to the server. Generally the first 3-4 lines should be almost 
identical on this traceroute. If not. 
1. If one traceroute gives names and the other does not then you probbly have a 
DNS misconfiguration. .
2. If the numbers diverge on the secodn or third hop, try  restarting the slow 
system.
I believe there is a reset DHCP or request new lease for DHCP button in Network 
configuration which might resolve issues. 

Another possibility is that your carrier only wants you to connect one machine.

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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

2013-04-21 Thread Les Kriegler
I actually did read the entire message. I'll read it again.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:21 AM, anouk radix radix.an...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Les,
 He explained this in his message if you read through it. you can disable 
 fusion sending keys to the mac when windows is turned on.
 Greetings, Anouk,
 Op 21/04/2013 17:06, Les Kriegler schreef:
 Paul, this is very helpful.  My question here is if you re-assign the 
 Command key to function as an Alt key, how would you switch between the Mac 
 OS and Windows?  Thanks.
 
 Les
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Yolanda and Phil,
 
 Let's not make this more complicated than it is.
 
 1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
 menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right 
 until you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this 
 menu, and then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that 
 says: windows is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is 
 off, vo down arrow some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start 
 windows. Easy, isn't it?
 
 2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings 
 in fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, 
 that the key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start 
 key, and the mac option key, which you would love to have as your windows 
 key, instead functions as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If 
 you are used to the layout of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has 
 it is not what you want, because by default, on a fusion virtual windows, 
 your alt is windows key, and the windows key does alt.
 
 To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When 
 fusion is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion 
 preferences. Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different 
 screens. You can switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at 
 the top of the screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and 
 mouse shortcuts. The screen for that will open.
 
 Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how 
 to handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have 
 a listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is 
 pressed. For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the 
 windows logo key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further 
 more, fusion also assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, 
 which is copy, but you don't want alt c to be the same as control c in 
 windows, do you? So, clear out all definitions in this listbox and start 
 over with what you want yourself.
 
 Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
 button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor 
 on the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all 
 key definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.
 
 Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. 
 The add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a 
 to, field. In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in 
 the from section for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For 
 the rest, leave the entire from section for what it is. You only need to 
 check this command key box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that 
 says alt, check it, and hit okay. There you have your command key, the one 
 next to spacebar, defined as alt in windows. All you did was hit add, check 
 command key in the from section, and make that key do alt, in the to 
 section.
 
 Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In 
 other words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, 
 the second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the 
 windows key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit 
 add again, check option in the from section, and in the to section for this 
 definition, find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, 
 holds the windows logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel 
 natural.
 
 Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
 falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
 track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens 
 by default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely 
 land in finder, the applications window, the mac desktop or any other 
 place. This is because by default, the command or alt tab key combination, 
 if you don't do anything about it, will be sent to the mac, and not to 
 windows.
 
 To correct this, look in the fusion preferences, the third tab sheet, which 
 is reachable via the toolbar, is 

Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Kerri
Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying Apple 
 submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual characters in 
 simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and then hit the 
 return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or cursor around in 
 there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit control yet. For me, I 
 keep hearing that phrase every time I move the cursor or type. Now if I 
 interact then it stops doing that. I also get this in TextEdit if I don't 
 interact there but that is obviously a place where I would always want to 
 interact. I've never had this situation in the past; has anyone here 
 experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying Apple submenu I 
 don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
 
 Thanks for any ideas or help.
 
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Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

2013-04-21 Thread Esther
Hi Brandt, 

I know of only one way to remap the Caps Lock key to act as an insert key for 
modifier purposes under VMware fusion, and that is to use KeyRemap4MacBook and 
the PCKeyboardHack from:
http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/
and
http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
 
The reason that you can't simply remap the function of the Caps Lock key to act 
as an insert key using Sharp Keys is that starting between the end of 2007 and 
the beginning of 2008, slightly after the time that Leopard was released, Apple 
modified the action of the Caps Lock key to include a slight delay before its 
activation.  Earlier models of the Intel MacBooks and MacBook Pros did not have 
this delay, but by 2009 all laptop Macs had the delay built in. This Apple 
Knowledge Base article gives details:
• Mac notebooks: Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1192

Paul Erkens details the fact that while you can remap the Caps Lock key in 
VMware Fusion, you can't use it as a modifier key, in his reply to a current 
thread, Re: Help with VMWare Fusion.  The extra time delay that is introduced 
is the reason why.  As to why this change was deliberately introduced, I 
believe that it was part of an accessibility solution for mobility disabled Mac 
users. This is only conjecture on my part based on having read some 
descriptions of accessibility standards for users with severe mobility 
impairments -- meaning quadraplegics and others who need to use mouth sticks to 
navigate keyboards, and use multiple presses of the Caps Lock for some 
sequences.

If you're asking whether it is possible to use the Caps Lock key as an insert 
key for JAWS under VMware fusion, the answer is yes -- Eric Caron has a podcast 
and guide up at the AppleVis site that details how he has set up the Caps Lock 
key to act as the VO (Control+Option) keys on his Mac laptop, and to act as the 
JAWS insert key when he uses Windows under VMware fusion.  You cannot, however, 
get this behavior by using either Sharp Keys, as you have found, or by using 
the VMware fusion preferences, as Paul described.  In fact, if you use 
KeyRemap4MacBook, you should not be using either Sharp Keys or the VMware 
preferences remapping, because you will already have introduced multiple 
remappings for your keys. 

Here's the link to the AppleVis podcast page:
• New  Updated: Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the 
VoiceOver Experience:
http://bit.ly/Qu1K2e
I've shortened the actual link, which would probably wrap and break, but it's:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience

There is also a user guide at:
• Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the VoiceOver Experience
http://bit.ly/Q6eTye

However, while the user guide does provide useful documentation and references 
to the PCKeyboardHack page, it was written for the original podcast.  It 
describes the general way of customizing the keyboard for the PCKeyboardHack, 
while Eric was only interested in getting a remapping for the Caps Lock key.  
The developer responded by introducing a custom setting for Blind Voice Over 
in the application that would take care of this.  In addition, the most recent 
major update versions have incorporated this into app, so that it is no longer 
necessary to get the special version of the app to install that is referenced 
in the podcast.  In fact, if you try to do so, you'll be taken back to the main 
KeyRemap4MacBook web page.  Another change with the major update is that, 
instead of making the customization changes in preference panes for 
KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack under your System Preferences, you now 
work directly in these apps, instead.  

The AppleVis pages also contain a link to mac-access list post that provides 
more general information about working and configuring KeyRemap4MacBook.  Most 
of this was discussed on that list.

I'd simply conclude by saying that you do need to keep your key remapping 
actions straight, and that I suspect people who posted that the Insert key 
behavior didn't work for them had prior conflicting key remapping definitions 
set up with either Sharp Keys or their Fusion preferences.  Paul Erken's post 
about also turning off key definitions for the F-keys for Exposé, etc. is also 
good advice -- so you don't have other conflicting key definitions set up on 
the Mac side.

I don't use JAWS, Windows, or VMware fusion myself, so I can only point you to 
the AppleVis pages.  Good luck.

Cheers,

Esther

On 21 Apr 2013, at 06:45, Brandt wrote:

 Hi there folks,
 
 I have a copy of Windows 7 in VMware fusion, but I'm not using it at this 
 point in time due to the fact that the insert key, the modifier key for both 
 Jaws and NVDA refuse to be mapped by Sharp keys, and no matter what I do, 
 CapsLock is always picked up by the Mac.
 
 The only solution I know of, is to 

Re: flack conversion?

2013-04-21 Thread -


Either sox or xld can do this conversion.  A google will get you either 
using os10 and the name.


The former is terminal only, the latter gui or terminal.  Both are free 
and have multiple audio functions and features in addition to format 
conversion.


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App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread jshandra72

Hey Guys, 

 I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This isn't 
to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are a lot 
of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think that 
Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app stores. 
Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. Maybe if 
developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it. 

 I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing here 
or there. 

 I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
make apps accessible. 

Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.

AppleVis link: 
http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read

jP

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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Christine Grassman
This would be exceedingly helpful; it would eliminate guesswork, time, and 
inconvenience, and would thin the traffic for those of us asking each other if 
anyone knows whether this app or that app is accessible.  I have asked a number 
of times about apps and have often not received a response, probably because no 
one bothered to try a particular app without knowing whether or not it is 
accessible.  
Christine
On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hey Guys, 
 
  I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
 some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This 
 isn't to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are 
 a lot of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think 
 that Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app 
 stores. Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. 
 Maybe if developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it. 
 
  I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing 
 here or there. 
 
  I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
 inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
 few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
 developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
 make apps accessible. 
 
 Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
 
 AppleVis link: 
 http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Terje Strømberg
Hi

That is a great idea. 

Take care
Terje Strømberg


Den 21. apr. 2013 kl. 21:29 skrev jshandr...@gmail.com:

 
 Hey Guys, 
 
  I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
 some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This 
 isn't to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are 
 a lot of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think 
 that Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app 
 stores. Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. 
 Maybe if developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it. 
 
  I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing 
 here or there. 
 
  I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
 inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
 few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
 developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
 make apps accessible. 
 
 Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
 
 AppleVis link: 
 http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
 
 jP
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, you can't have a rating of 1 to 5 for accessibility.  I think this is a 
good idea and I'd like it to happen, but I don't think you've thought it 
through very well, as with all the others who have voiced it before you.  This 
is nothing new believe me.

First, you can't have an accessibility rating from one to five.  The reason is 
that a significant portion of the user base won't be actively using the product 
with accessibility features and therefore won't be in a position to rate the 
accessibility fairly.  The rating has to be from 0 or n/a to 5 excellent or 
fully accessible.

Second, if you make an accessibility rating from 0 to 5, that means you have to 
make all of the other criteria 0 to 5 as well.  In short, you are asking for a 
complete rewrite of the database used to track the ratings, not to mention the 
front end.

Third, once you have added the ability to have a 0 rating, you then have to 
assess how being rated 0 on one of the criteria effects the overall rating of 
an app and make sure the math is done properly so the rating system is fair.

Fourth, after you've completely rewritten the rating system, How do you prevent 
disenfranchised people who either got bad support or had a product fail or 
conflict with other things running on their machine, or who just didn't like 
the price and thought they'd show the developer what fore, from rating the 
accessibility a 1 without even knowing or caring what that rating is for.  That 
would mislead users and compromise the rating system, and there are plenty of 
people out there lazy, stupid or vindictive enough to do something like that.

Again, I think it's a great idea, and I wish apple had taken it into account 
when they were building their software distribution model.  But I don't think 
any amount of forum posting is going to get a move on this.  I'm sure hundreds 
of us have written to accessibil...@apple.com and requested this feature, since 
it comes up on the list once every three to six months or so.  It's on their 
radar and if anything can reasonably be done about it, the odds are good that 
it will be done.  You would be well off adding your voice to the ones who have 
already lobbied for this using approved channels and then waiting for it to 
happen.  Apple has listened to us in the past and though we don't usually hear 
from them, we have no reason to think that they aren't still listening.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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On 2013-04-21, at 3:29 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hey Guys, 
 
  I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
 some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This 
 isn't to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are 
 a lot of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think 
 that Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app 
 stores. Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. 
 Maybe if developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it. 
 
  I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing 
 here or there. 
 
  I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
 inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
 few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
 developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
 make apps accessible. 
 
 Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
 
 AppleVis link: 
 http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
 
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Struggling with the new iTunes interface

2013-04-21 Thread Graham Roby
Hi, 

Ever since I installed the new iTunes I've had loads of problems with it. 

Adding tracks to Playlists
In the old version I found my song in the library, pressed vo shift m, arrowed 
down to or typed a to get to ad to playlist sub menu and then scrolled to the 
list I wanted, pressed enter and bingo, the track was added. 
Now this doesn't happen. I'm finding the song, going through the steps outlined 
above but when I've pressed enter on the playlist I want to add the song to I 
have to do command c, then go to the required playlist before pressing command 
v to drop the song in to that list. 

Also if I type in an artist in to the search box, and that artis has 6 albums, 
moving between the different albums is problematical. If I do get to the right 
album and find its tracks, pressing enter on the track I've chosen does't play 
it. 

Is there a setting I need to change to make things clearer? 

Hope this makes sense to some of you. 

Best

Graham

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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Christine Grassman
I see a lot of negativity in the replies to the post in the applevis forum, and 
that is a shame. If accessibility were part of the admissions process, this 
does not mean that an app would be rejected if not accessible, simply that it 
would be rated according to its accessibility or lack thereof, and then those 
requiring VO use could have an informed choice *prior* to buying. While not 
ideal, this would level the playing field considerably, with the added bonus of 
having developers *made aware* of the accessibility issue.  Then, it says a 
great deal more about them if they choose not to bother.
Additionally, there is a huge difference between true ignorance and knowing, 
because of customers reaching out to developers about accessibility, that there 
is an issue. Those developers who have been informed, and then choose to ignore 
us, are making a decision to do so, not merely operating out of lack of 
knowledge.  
Outright refusal to acknowledge customer contact says a lot about a developer, 
whether it is an accessibility issue or not. 
Christine
 and  

On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 
 That is a great idea. 
 
 Take care
 Terje Strømberg
 
 
 Den 21. apr. 2013 kl. 21:29 skrev jshandr...@gmail.com:
 
 
 Hey Guys, 
 
  I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated 
 with some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. 
 This isn't to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. 
 There are a lot of developers who don't respond to emails when you write 
 them. I think that Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the 
 ios and Mac app stores. Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to 
 completely accessible. Maybe if developers see it in writing, they might be 
 inclined to fix it. 
 
  I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing 
 here or there. 
 
  I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
 inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
 few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
 developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
 make apps accessible. 
 
 Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
 
 AppleVis link: 
 http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
 
 jP
 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi folks,
Interesting discussion.
This is just a suggestion.
Why does access have to be included in the same ratings system at all?
 Two ideas come to mind here, again just as a question.
First  why not create an a-class or an I class designation.  a for 
accessible or i for inclusion.  Make it a marketing designation, not a 
strictly developers one.
as in is your ap good or cool enough for Apple's a-class?  give developers 
a pr reason to want to make the applications work...just because the 
designation has marketing  value.
I mean after all according to the center for disease Control stateside some 
21 million people fall under the sight issue umbrella.  that does not even 
begin to count the other populations who benefit from vo  functionality.
Take it totally out of the help those people arena and into the marketing 
because you want those customers arena.  also saves the reworking Erik has 
outlined  below.
second, and again I am simply wondering, should not Apple have the final 
and only  firm say as to if an application works with vo?
I mean letting random people as noted here vent their frustration against a 
company they do not like would be counter productive.  So why base it on 
something so individual in the first place?
There are as many variations on how a person uses a product as there are 
people using that product.
best to well put it all in a different category anyway. One that rewards 
Apple for making the effort, and rewards developers who take the time.

Just my perspective,
Karen

On Sun, 21 Apr 2013, erik burggraaf wrote:


Hi, you can't have a rating of 1 to 5 for accessibility.  I think this is a 
good idea and I'd like it to happen, but I don't think you've thought it 
through very well, as with all the others who have voiced it before you.  This 
is nothing new believe me.

First, you can't have an accessibility rating from one to five.  The reason is 
that a significant portion of the user base won't be actively using the product 
with accessibility features and therefore won't be in a position to rate the 
accessibility fairly.  The rating has to be from 0 or n/a to 5 excellent or 
fully accessible.

Second, if you make an accessibility rating from 0 to 5, that means you have to 
make all of the other criteria 0 to 5 as well.  In short, you are asking for a 
complete rewrite of the database used to track the ratings, not to mention the 
front end.

Third, once you have added the ability to have a 0 rating, you then have to 
assess how being rated 0 on one of the criteria effects the overall rating of 
an app and make sure the math is done properly so the rating system is fair.

Fourth, after you've completely rewritten the rating system, How do you prevent 
disenfranchised people who either got bad support or had a product fail or 
conflict with other things running on their machine, or who just didn't like 
the price and thought they'd show the developer what fore, from rating the 
accessibility a 1 without even knowing or caring what that rating is for.  That 
would mislead users and compromise the rating system, and there are plenty of 
people out there lazy, stupid or vindictive enough to do something like that.

Again, I think it's a great idea, and I wish apple had taken it into account 
when they were building their software distribution model.  But I don't think 
any amount of forum posting is going to get a move on this.  I'm sure hundreds 
of us have written to accessibil...@apple.com and requested this feature, since 
it comes up on the list once every three to six months or so.  It's on their 
radar and if anything can reasonably be done about it, the odds are good that 
it will be done.  You would be well off adding your voice to the ones who have 
already lobbied for this using approved channels and then waiting for it to 
happen.  Apple has listened to us in the past and though we don't usually hear 
from them, we have no reason to think that they aren't still listening.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

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Hey Guys,

 I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This isn't 
to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are a lot 
of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think that 
Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app stores. 
Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. Maybe if 
developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it.

 I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing here 
or there.

 I also find it demeaning to contact Apple 

Re: The insert key in VMware fusion

2013-04-21 Thread Kliphton A M
I use the grave key with sharp keys for jaws.  The capslock key in fusion just 
does not take.  Don't know why, but it doesn'.  Any other key shoud work though.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there folks,
 
 I have a copy of Windows 7 in VMware fusion, but I'm not using it at this 
 point in time due to the fact that the insert key, the modifier key for both 
 Jaws and NVDA refuse to be mapped by Sharp keys, and no matter what I do, 
 CapsLock is always picked up by the Mac.
 
 The only solution I know of, is to use a second keyboard. Is there any 
 others? I would be happy, for then I don't need to plug in the secondary 
 keyboard into the Mac.
 
 Thanks so long.
 
 Warm regards,
 
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Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Harry Hogue
Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
trackpad?

Just a thought.

Harry

On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
 On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
 Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
 characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
 then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
 cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
 control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the cursor 
 or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this in 
 TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I 
 would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; 
 has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying 
 Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread J.P.
That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact you 
have different levels of users. There just needs to be improvement. Especially 
when it comes to paid apps.

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Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Steve Holmes
That's not the issue here. I just experimented with mouse movement and made 
sure I didn't have the mouse down toggled down or anything like that. Problem 
still exists. I wonder if this started with some recent update. It is annoying 
for sure.

On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
 trackpad?
 
 Just a thought.
 
 Harry
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
 On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
 Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
 characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
 then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
 cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
 control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
 cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this 
 in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I 
 would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; 
 has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying 
 Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
 
 Thanks for any ideas or help.
 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Steve Holmes
I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How many 
times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible to use 
with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any mention of 
a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something there but worth a 
look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y information for the time being.

I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who have 
no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less accessible 
than it really might be.

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Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland

Maybe I'm just lucky.  I never even once have experienced this.

At least not even near in the contexts you all describe.  I've had it where 
sometimes I'll route my mouse to an object, then vo+shift+space to click, 
and it winds up clicking the apple menu instead, but that's about the 
closest thing even remotely that I've seen.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
keep saying Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
that.


Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Alex Hall
Same here - I have a Mini, so I don't move the mouse since it is off to the 
side. Besides, it happens predictably for the most part, not randomly like 
accidental mouse movements would cause. Looks like it's time to email Apple...

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 21, 2013, at 16:58, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's not the issue here. I just experimented with mouse movement and made 
 sure I didn't have the mouse down toggled down or anything like that. Problem 
 still exists. I wonder if this started with some recent update. It is 
 annoying for sure.
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
 trackpad?
 
 Just a thought.
 
 Harry
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
 On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
 Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
 characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
 then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
 cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
 control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
 cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
 this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
 where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
 the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
 keep saying Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
 that.
 
 Thanks for any ideas or help.
 
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Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland

That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.

Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
trackpad?


Just a thought.

Harry

On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:


Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
keep saying Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
that.


Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: finder crashes when opening external disk

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland
Wooo yeah!  and be certained! and I do mean, certained! that you look at how 
Tim wrote this command.

rm, space, dash r f, space, careful here! slash Volumes, with a capital V, 
slash the name of your drive, slash... again, be? careful! here! dot! star.  Be 
certain! and I mean, certain! that you put the dot in there before the star.  
If you don't, you're gonna wipe the entire drive!  Ouch!

Chris.

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  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:11 AM
  Subject: Re: finder crashes when opening external disk


  Hi,


  Just a possible typo or clarification with your original post, did you try 
VO-f2-f2 to bring up the Window Chooser to possibly bring focus to that dialog?


  I'm wondering if there are any firmware upgrades for that HD.  I've had 
issues with WD drives in the past that were addressed by firmware upgrades to 
the drive itself.  These upgrades can usually be found on the Western Digital 
site.


  Alternatively, as long as you can confirm that the external drive has been 
backed up properly, try this Terminal command:


  sudo rm -rf /Volumes/Drive_Name/.*


  This is a very scary command as you can accidentally delete the entire 
contents of the drive, if entered incorrectly, thus my caution about making 
sure that the drive was backed up.


  Regarding Terminal not reading the line that you just entered, you may need 
to interact one more level in oder to view those entries.


  HTH.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada


  On 2013-04-20, at 5:58 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear listers,

I have a Western Digital 1tb drive attached to my mac. Its file system is 
mac os extended, journaled, so that should all be fine. However, when I go to 
this drive in finder, by simply hitting command down arrow on its volume icon 
on the desktop, finder crashes. Voiceover says I'm still on the desktop, but my 
wife says she sees a window with 2 buttons: reopen, or cancel. I cannot reach 
this window myself using command accent, nor with vo twice f1, nor by turning 
vo off and back on. If my wife clicks the error window, then yes I can see it 
with vo.

While googling, I found a solution that advises to delete all mac files 
from the root. I think they mean, delete all dot files and let os10 create 
those from scratch. But I have no way to get into the drive.

This is a fresh mac os10 installation, and I haven't been in terminal 
since, but when I open terminal and then press my braille display up key, 
VoiceOver says last login, and then a date. I should normally be able to read 
the previous line in terminal, i.e. the result of my commands. I need to find 
out how to get terminal on its feet again, but that's a different problem. 

I'm hoping to find a way to solve this finder crash when opening the 
external drive, starting by deleting the files on its root that start with a 
period. According to a post I found on the net, that may solve finder crashes 
when opening an external drive. I tried command g, go to folder in finder, but 
that command crashes finder as well, when I type in /volumes/macserver1. 
macserver1 is the volume label of the external drive.

Any ideas? What can I do to let finder open this drive? CrashPlan is 
backing it up just fine, so it should be accessible to the os. It's just that 
finder has problems with it. Any advice?

Paul.

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Time Capsule

2013-04-21 Thread Jeff Berwick
Hi all,

My Time machine backups are no longer happening and I have looked into the 
problem.  It seems that the disk needs to be repaired.  Unfortunately, the disk 
is not showing up in my Disk Utility.  Any thoughts on how I can get it to show 
up, or any other way to repair it?

Thx,
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Re: Regarding ZCaptcha

2013-04-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks for your forthrightness, Brandon. Rumola is indeed a very good service, 
although it's a little tricky to install. Thanks for giving the heads-up.

Teresa
On Apr 20, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Many of you have tried ZCaptcha over the past 7 months since its release.
 
 Another captcha solving service has come to my attention in the past month, 
 called Rumola. For those who have not used it, basically it is a browser 
 plugin that automatically fills captchas when it finds one on a page.
 
 I installed it on March 26 and have been using it since then. Every time Im 
 on a form with a captcha, I can't say how surprised I am every time I reach 
 the captcha field and it is already filled in.
 
 I have no intention of getting into browser plugins. I developed something in 
 a time when there wasn't much available for the Mac, according to the 
 resources I had available. However, I admit that Rumola is a better service, 
 and for me has been 100% accurate in the time I have used it.
 
 I really have no interest in continuing to develop and improve ZCaptcha, 
 especially because I'm so happy using Rumola.
 
 Right now I'm focused on my cloud Web hosting, so I really don't have time to 
 work on much else.
 
 Anyway, ZCaptcha is still active and still being used by some, but I'm just 
 saying publicly that there will be no updates to it, and that I would 
 recommend Rumola from now on.
 
 
 
 
 God bless,
 Brandon Olivares
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 Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to 
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Password protected documents

2013-04-21 Thread Linda Adams
Hello,

 

I am stumped and need some help.  I am using Lion on a Macbook and am
working with text edit.  I have tried to create a disc image of an
individual  document so it would be password protected but have not been
successful.  I have been able to create a folder disc image that is
password protected in which I have put files.  It won't, however,  let
me edit the documents inside the disc image folder.  I've repeated the
process, checking each step but can't find where I'm going wrong.  I've
been told it can be done with Pages, but can I edit if I'm using text
edit and creating the disc image with the disc utility?

Thanks in advance,

Linda

 

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Re: Time Capsule

2013-04-21 Thread John Panarese
  I think the only way you can get it to show up in Disk Utility is to directly 
connect the Time Capsule to your system.  I have one as well, and I can't find 
a way to get it to show up nor any of the air disk volumes.  I would assume 
that a direct connect would be necessary to run a hardware fix.


Take Care

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 Hi all,
 
 My Time machine backups are no longer happening and I have looked into the 
 problem.  It seems that the disk needs to be repaired.  Unfortunately, the 
 disk is not showing up in my Disk Utility.  Any thoughts on how I can get it 
 to show up, or any other way to repair it?
 
 Thx,
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Re: Struggling with the new iTunes interface

2013-04-21 Thread Esther
Hi Graham,

I'll try to answer your questions about iTunes 11 even though I, personally, 
have not upgraded to this version. The following should work to get the new 
iTunes 11 into something that approximates the Classic view of iTunes that 
you are used to from earlier versions. I refer you to the TUAW article on 
iTunes 11 for old fogies: goin' back to the way it was by Erica Sadun:
http://aol.it/ShCsm3

1. Press Command-Option-S to restore the Sidebar in iTunes
2. Select the Songs radio button
3. Press Command-slash to restore the status bar 

Once you are in the traditional list view after selecting Songs, you can sort 
by any column you like.  Your playlists should be available in the sidebar that 
you've restored.  Your playlist information about total playing time and number 
of items, should appear in the status bar, as before.  If you use the Column 
Browser, and have enabled viewing of Artists, Albums, and Composers 
under the Column Browser submenu of your View menu option (on the iTunes 
menu bar), you can access them as before.

Write back if you still have problems.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On 21 Apr 2013, at 09:58, Graham Roby wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 Ever since I installed the new iTunes I've had loads of problems with it. 
 
 Adding tracks to Playlists
 In the old version I found my song in the library, pressed vo shift m, 
 arrowed down to or typed a to get to ad to playlist sub menu and then 
 scrolled to the list I wanted, pressed enter and bingo, the track was added. 
 Now this doesn't happen. I'm finding the song, going through the steps 
 outlined above but when I've pressed enter on the playlist I want to add the 
 song to I have to do command c, then go to the required playlist before 
 pressing command v to drop the song in to that list. 
 
 Also if I type in an artist in to the search box, and that artis has 6 
 albums, moving between the different albums is problematical. If I do get to 
 the right album and find its tracks, pressing enter on the track I've chosen 
 does't play it. 
 
 Is there a setting I need to change to make things clearer? 
 
 Hope this makes sense to some of you. 
 
 Best
 
 Graham

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Re: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland
Does VMWare fusion work with Windows 8 as of yet?

Chris.

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  From: Esther 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:52 PM
  Subject: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: 
The insert key in VMware fusion]


  Hi Brandt, 


  I know of only one way to remap the Caps Lock key to act as an insert key for 
modifier purposes under VMware fusion, and that is to use KeyRemap4MacBook and 
the PCKeyboardHack from:
  http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/
  and
  http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en

  The reason that you can't simply remap the function of the Caps Lock key to 
act as an insert key using Sharp Keys is that starting between the end of 2007 
and the beginning of 2008, slightly after the time that Leopard was released, 
Apple modified the action of the Caps Lock key to include a slight delay before 
its activation.  Earlier models of the Intel MacBooks and MacBook Pros did not 
have this delay, but by 2009 all laptop Macs had the delay built in. This Apple 
Knowledge Base article gives details:
  • Mac notebooks: Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation
  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1192


  Paul Erkens details the fact that while you can remap the Caps Lock key in 
VMware Fusion, you can't use it as a modifier key, in his reply to a current 
thread, Re: Help with VMWare Fusion.  The extra time delay that is introduced 
is the reason why.  As to why this change was deliberately introduced, I 
believe that it was part of an accessibility solution for mobility disabled Mac 
users. This is only conjecture on my part based on having read some 
descriptions of accessibility standards for users with severe mobility 
impairments -- meaning quadraplegics and others who need to use mouth sticks to 
navigate keyboards, and use multiple presses of the Caps Lock for some 
sequences.


  If you're asking whether it is possible to use the Caps Lock key as an insert 
key for JAWS under VMware fusion, the answer is yes -- Eric Caron has a podcast 
and guide up at the AppleVis site that details how he has set up the Caps Lock 
key to act as the VO (Control+Option) keys on his Mac laptop, and to act as the 
JAWS insert key when he uses Windows under VMware fusion.  You cannot, however, 
get this behavior by using either Sharp Keys, as you have found, or by using 
the VMware fusion preferences, as Paul described.  In fact, if you use 
KeyRemap4MacBook, you should not be using either Sharp Keys or the VMware 
preferences remapping, because you will already have introduced multiple 
remappings for your keys. 


  Here's the link to the AppleVis podcast page:
  • New  Updated: Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the 
VoiceOver Experience:
  http://bit.ly/Qu1K2e
  I've shortened the actual link, which would probably wrap and break, but it's:
  
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience


  There is also a user guide at:
  • Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the VoiceOver 
Experience
  http://bit.ly/Q6eTye


  However, while the user guide does provide useful documentation and 
references to the PCKeyboardHack page, it was written for the original podcast. 
 It describes the general way of customizing the keyboard for the 
PCKeyboardHack, while Eric was only interested in getting a remapping for the 
Caps Lock key.  The developer responded by introducing a custom setting for 
Blind Voice Over in the application that would take care of this.  In 
addition, the most recent major update versions have incorporated this into 
app, so that it is no longer necessary to get the special version of the app to 
install that is referenced in the podcast.  In fact, if you try to do so, 
you'll be taken back to the main KeyRemap4MacBook web page.  Another change 
with the major update is that, instead of making the customization changes in 
preference panes for KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack under your System 
Preferences, you now work directly in these apps, instead.  


  The AppleVis pages also contain a link to mac-access list post that provides 
more general information about working and configuring KeyRemap4MacBook.  Most 
of this was discussed on that list.


  I'd simply conclude by saying that you do need to keep your key remapping 
actions straight, and that I suspect people who posted that the Insert key 
behavior didn't work for them had prior conflicting key remapping definitions 
set up with either Sharp Keys or their Fusion preferences.  Paul Erken's post 
about also turning off key definitions for the F-keys for Exposé, etc. is also 
good advice -- so you don't have other conflicting key definitions set up on 
the Mac side.


  I don't use JAWS, Windows, or VMware fusion myself, so I can only point you 
to the AppleVis pages.  Good luck.


  Cheers,


  Esther


  On 21 Apr 

Re: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

2013-04-21 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi.
It does indeed. Rather well in fact.
HTH,
Matthew Campbell.
On 2013-04-21, at 7:04 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does VMWare fusion work with Windows 8 as of yet?
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Esther
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:52 PM
 Subject: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: 
 The insert key in VMware fusion]
 
 Hi Brandt, 
 
 I know of only one way to remap the Caps Lock key to act as an insert key for 
 modifier purposes under VMware fusion, and that is to use KeyRemap4MacBook 
 and the PCKeyboardHack from:
 http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/
 and
 http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
  
 The reason that you can't simply remap the function of the Caps Lock key to 
 act as an insert key using Sharp Keys is that starting between the end of 
 2007 and the beginning of 2008, slightly after the time that Leopard was 
 released, Apple modified the action of the Caps Lock key to include a slight 
 delay before its activation.  Earlier models of the Intel MacBooks and 
 MacBook Pros did not have this delay, but by 2009 all laptop Macs had the 
 delay built in. This Apple Knowledge Base article gives details:
 • Mac notebooks: Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1192
 
 Paul Erkens details the fact that while you can remap the Caps Lock key in 
 VMware Fusion, you can't use it as a modifier key, in his reply to a current 
 thread, Re: Help with VMWare Fusion.  The extra time delay that is 
 introduced is the reason why.  As to why this change was deliberately 
 introduced, I believe that it was part of an accessibility solution for 
 mobility disabled Mac users. This is only conjecture on my part based on 
 having read some descriptions of accessibility standards for users with 
 severe mobility impairments -- meaning quadraplegics and others who need to 
 use mouth sticks to navigate keyboards, and use multiple presses of the Caps 
 Lock for some sequences.
 
 If you're asking whether it is possible to use the Caps Lock key as an insert 
 key for JAWS under VMware fusion, the answer is yes -- Eric Caron has a 
 podcast and guide up at the AppleVis site that details how he has set up the 
 Caps Lock key to act as the VO (Control+Option) keys on his Mac laptop, and 
 to act as the JAWS insert key when he uses Windows under VMware fusion.  You 
 cannot, however, get this behavior by using either Sharp Keys, as you have 
 found, or by using the VMware fusion preferences, as Paul described.  In 
 fact, if you use KeyRemap4MacBook, you should not be using either Sharp Keys 
 or the VMware preferences remapping, because you will already have introduced 
 multiple remappings for your keys. 
 
 Here's the link to the AppleVis podcast page:
 • New  Updated: Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the 
 VoiceOver Experience:
 http://bit.ly/Qu1K2e
 I've shortened the actual link, which would probably wrap and break, but it's:
 http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
 
 There is also a user guide at:
 • Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the VoiceOver 
 Experience
 http://bit.ly/Q6eTye
 
 However, while the user guide does provide useful documentation and 
 references to the PCKeyboardHack page, it was written for the original 
 podcast.  It describes the general way of customizing the keyboard for the 
 PCKeyboardHack, while Eric was only interested in getting a remapping for the 
 Caps Lock key.  The developer responded by introducing a custom setting for 
 Blind Voice Over in the application that would take care of this.  In 
 addition, the most recent major update versions have incorporated this into 
 app, so that it is no longer necessary to get the special version of the app 
 to install that is referenced in the podcast.  In fact, if you try to do so, 
 you'll be taken back to the main KeyRemap4MacBook web page.  Another change 
 with the major update is that, instead of making the customization changes in 
 preference panes for KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack under your 
 System Preferences, you now work directly in these apps, instead.  
 
 The AppleVis pages also contain a link to mac-access list post that provides 
 more general information about working and configuring KeyRemap4MacBook.  
 Most of this was discussed on that list.
 
 I'd simply conclude by saying that you do need to keep your key remapping 
 actions straight, and that I suspect people who posted that the Insert key 
 behavior didn't work for them had prior conflicting key remapping definitions 
 set up with either Sharp Keys or their Fusion preferences.  Paul Erken's post 
 about also turning off key definitions for the F-keys for Exposé, etc. is 
 also good advice -- so you don't have other conflicting key definitions set 
 up on the 

Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland
I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
use Apple products again.


I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the 
bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible 
in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote 
the dev, he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the 
product but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up 
with Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our 
problem that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your 
research more thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did 
everything! within my power to test the accessibility before buying, but the 
dev was totally uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their 
problem, and to get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they 
seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their 
canded appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told 
me flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked 
when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!


Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.


Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.


Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How 
many times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible 
to use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y 
information for the time being.


I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who 
have no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less 
accessible than it really might be.


On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, J.P. jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:

That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact 
you have different levels of users. There just needs to be improvement. 
Especially when it comes to paid apps.


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Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

2013-04-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi all,

I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I go 
to what appears to be the login and press show password, there is what 
looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.

Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.

Thanks,
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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

2013-04-21 Thread John Panarese
You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, choose 
the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a checkbox to 
show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've used this trick 
a few times to find passwords to networks and such.


Take Care

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Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I go 
 to what appears to be the login and press show password, there is what 
 looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
 
 Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Danny Noonan
I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an issue. 
Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app purchases and 
when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my situation was given an 
instant refund no questions asked and no attitude what so ever. It must be like 
in many other situations all about who your talking to and what kind of day 
their having. 

I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't be 
a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me and my 
family and friends. 

Danny. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund polacy... 
 allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to me.  It was 
 enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever use Apple 
 products again.
 
 I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
 Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
 with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
 hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
 promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
 around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the bullet 
 and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible in the 
 least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, 
 he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the product 
 but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with 
 Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem 
 that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your research more 
 thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my 
 power to test the accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally 
 uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their problem, and to get 
 over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they seemed to be capable 
 of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their canded appologies.  I 
 finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told me flat out, even if it 
 was music in the ITunes music store that had been corrupted, the bottom line 
 was, accessibility not withstanding, quote unquote:  we don't refund blind 
 people.  That was literally their exact words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? 
 refund, blind people!  I almost puked when hearing this!  I couldn't believe 
 my ears!
 
 Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
 say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
 behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
 refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
 
 Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
 service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
 
 Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
 not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
 wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
 well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
 form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
 on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
 bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
 Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!
 
 
 I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How many 
 times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible to 
 use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
 mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
 there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y 
 information for the time being.
 
 I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
 accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who 
 have no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less 
 accessible than it really might be.
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, J.P. jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact you 
 have different levels of users. There just needs to be improvement. 
 Especially when it comes to paid apps.
 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread John Panarese
   Yes, it comes down to the person you are speaking to.  I have never had any 
issues with refunds.  However, a friend of mine recently dealt with the 
proverbial bad apple customer service person when calling up iTunes support 
for some charged items.  I suggested that she call back later to deal with a 
different person.  She did, and she had no problems with the second person.


Take Care

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Mac for the Blind
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Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:

 I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an 
 issue. Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app 
 purchases and when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my 
 situation was given an instant refund no questions asked and no attitude what 
 so ever. It must be like in many other situations all about who your talking 
 to and what kind of day their having. 
 
 I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't 
 be a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me and 
 my family and friends. 
 
 Danny. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
 polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
 me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
 use Apple products again.
 
 I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
 Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
 with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
 hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
 promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
 around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the 
 bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible 
 in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote 
 the dev, he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the 
 product but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up 
 with Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our 
 problem that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your 
 research more thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did 
 everything! within my power to test the accessibility before buying, but the 
 dev was totally uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their 
 problem, and to get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they 
 seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their 
 canded appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told 
 me flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
 corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
 unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
 words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked 
 when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!
 
 Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
 say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
 behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
 refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
 
 Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
 service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
 
 Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
 not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
 wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
 well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
 form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
 on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
 bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
 Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!
 
 
 I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How 
 many times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible 
 to use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
 mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
 there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent 

Re: iPhone Manual Question

2013-04-21 Thread Shen
Hi there.
The Item Chooser is two-finger triple tap.
I work for the San Francisco LightHouse and am sorry to inform you, Apple did 
not request iOS6 to be transcribed in Braille. Not sure why, but guessing that 
perhaps iOS 5 is similar enough to 6.


On Apr 16, 2013, at 4:01 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi guys
 I just downloaded the iPhone User Guide which is for iOS 5. I got it in brf 
 format which was transcribed by the San Francisco Lighthouse. Does anyone 
 know if there is the same thing out yet for iOS 6? I was looking for the 
 gesture for calling up the item chooser. I guess that's an iOS 6 thing 
 because I couldn't find it in the iOS 5 book. I know how to call up the item 
 chooser with a keyboard. I accidentally called it up this morning with a 
 gesture, but I have no idea how I did it since that's not what I was doing at 
 the time. What is the gesture for calling up the item chooser on the iPhone? 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 
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Re: Transmit, or cute FTP which is better?

2013-04-21 Thread Jeffry Miller
Yes, I tried it out, but I don't have it now. I'm also using transmit.

Jeffry Miller

On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:18 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wasn't aware of a Mac version of CuteFTP. I never liked the one for 
 windows. I use Transmit on the Mac and love it. Dunno about Cute on the Mac.
 
 On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Jeffry Miller fafa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I was just wondering, which is better to use, transmit, or cute FTP? I 
 am trying both of them, but can't seem to find how to get the list of sites 
 in the cute FTP one. Are there any tutorials or anything on Cute FTP
 
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Re: Time Capsule

2013-04-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Have you tried to restart the Time Capsule?  Often when this sort of thing is 
happening, it can be remedied by restarting the TC itself.  This can be done 
from within Airport Utility or by doing a hard reset by unplugging it, wait 
about 30 seconds to a minute, then plug it back in.

Just a note though regarding repairing permissions and/or repairing the disk.  
Repairing Permissions is only available on disks that have the actual MacOS 
installed, thus it is not possible to repair the permissions on the backup 
disk.  For the Repair Disk option, this can only be done to a drive that is 
physically connected to your machine, it cannot be performed on a shared disk 
which is what your TC backup disk is.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-04-21, at 3:48 PM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 My Time machine backups are no longer happening and I have looked into the 
 problem.  It seems that the disk needs to be repaired.  Unfortunately, the 
 disk is not showing up in my Disk Utility.  Any thoughts on how I can get it 
 to show up, or any other way to repair it?
 
 Thx,
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
I agree that this was a dreadful experience.  all the more reason to put 
an accessible criteria, and make it worth their while positively to have 
their  apps on the list.
better to make it clear before any money changes hands that the app makes 
the grade.  Equally if someone sought a refund even if the app qualified 
the company writing the app would have some protection as well.

Karen

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013, Danny Noonan wrote:


I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an issue. 
Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app purchases and 
when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my situation was given an 
instant refund no questions asked and no attitude what so ever. It must be like 
in many other situations all about who your talking to and what kind of day 
their having.

I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't be 
a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me and my 
family and friends.

Danny.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund polacy... 
allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to me.  It was 
enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever use Apple 
products again.

I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 hours, 
just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the promise that 
I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was around $150.  
So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the bullet and bought the 
app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible in the least, thus 
proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, he never 
replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the product but was 
having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with Apple.  They 
gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem that you bought an 
inaccessible app, you should have done your research more thoroughly, blah 
blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my power to test the 
accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally uncooperative.  They still 
maintained that it's not their problem, and to get over it young.  When I 
explained it was $150, all they seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  
that's a lot, followed by their canded appologies.  I finally requested a 
refund.  As this point, they told me flat out, even if it was music in the 
ITunes music store that had been corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility 
not withstanding, quote unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was 
literally their exact words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind 
people!  I almost puked when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!

Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just say 
he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my behalf, 
and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a refund, but 
I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.

Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.

Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me wrong, 
but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as well as the 
mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some form of a trial 
version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come on!  $150 later and 
now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, 
but, that's  a crocka, you know what...

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How many 
times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible to use 
with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any mention of 
a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something there but worth a 
look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y information for the time being.

I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who have 
no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less accessible 
than it really might be.

On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, J.P. jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:


That is an easier way 

RE: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

2013-04-21 Thread Kliphton
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was
Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

 

Does VMWare fusion work with Windows 8 as of yet?

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Esther mailto:mori...@mac.com  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:52 PM

Subject: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re:
The insert key in VMware fusion]

 

Hi Brandt,  

 

I know of only one way to remap the Caps Lock key to act as an insert key
for modifier purposes under VMware fusion, and that is to use
KeyRemap4MacBook and the PCKeyboardHack from:

http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/

and

http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en

 

The reason that you can't simply remap the function of the Caps Lock key to
act as an insert key using Sharp Keys is that starting between the end of
2007 and the beginning of 2008, slightly after the time that Leopard was
released, Apple modified the action of the Caps Lock key to include a slight
delay before its activation.  Earlier models of the Intel MacBooks and
MacBook Pros did not have this delay, but by 2009 all laptop Macs had the
delay built in. This Apple Knowledge Base article gives details:

• Mac notebooks: Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1192

 

Paul Erkens details the fact that while you can remap the Caps Lock key in
VMware Fusion, you can't use it as a modifier key, in his reply to a current
thread, Re: Help with VMWare Fusion.  The extra time delay that is
introduced is the reason why.  As to why this change was deliberately
introduced, I believe that it was part of an accessibility solution for
mobility disabled Mac users. This is only conjecture on my part based on
having read some descriptions of accessibility standards for users with
severe mobility impairments -- meaning quadraplegics and others who need to
use mouth sticks to navigate keyboards, and use multiple presses of the Caps
Lock for some sequences.

 

If you're asking whether it is possible to use the Caps Lock key as an
insert key for JAWS under VMware fusion, the answer is yes -- Eric Caron has
a podcast and guide up at the AppleVis site that details how he has set up
the Caps Lock key to act as the VO (Control+Option) keys on his Mac laptop,
and to act as the JAWS insert key when he uses Windows under VMware fusion.
You cannot, however, get this behavior by using either Sharp Keys, as you
have found, or by using the VMware fusion preferences, as Paul described.
In fact, if you use KeyRemap4MacBook, you should not be using either Sharp
Keys or the VMware preferences remapping, because you will already have
introduced multiple remappings for your keys. 

 

Here's the link to the AppleVis podcast page:

• New  Updated: Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the
VoiceOver Experience:

http://bit.ly/Qu1K2e

I've shortened the actual link, which would probably wrap and break, but
it's:

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-mac
s-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience

 

There is also a user guide at:

• Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the VoiceOver
Experience

http://bit.ly/Q6eTye

 

However, while the user guide does provide useful documentation and
references to the PCKeyboardHack page, it was written for the original
podcast.  It describes the general way of customizing the keyboard for the
PCKeyboardHack, while Eric was only interested in getting a remapping for
the Caps Lock key.  The developer responded by introducing a custom setting
for Blind Voice Over in the application that would take care of this.  In
addition, the most recent major update versions have incorporated this into
app, so that it is no longer necessary to get the special version of the app
to install that is referenced in the podcast.  In fact, if you try to do so,
you'll be taken back to the main KeyRemap4MacBook web page.  Another change
with the major update is that, instead of making the customization changes
in preference panes for KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack under your
System Preferences, you now work directly in these apps, instead.  

 

The AppleVis pages also contain a link to mac-access list post that provides
more general information about working and 

bizare itunes problem please help!

2013-04-21 Thread trahern culver
hey all i'm running the latest version of iTunes my media libury is on
an exturnle hd the problem is this, when i tipe in the such  box voice
over just sais bizzie and iTunes crashes it doesn't close but i have
to force quit it because it stops working conpleatly any one know what
the problem is? kind regards trahern.

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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland

Danny,

99 percent with a bar over it, of the time, I've been able to second your 
comments.  I hardly ever have had bad experiences, however, this put me over 
the top.  Here's hoping it doesn't happen again, as that was $150 that I 
almost had to eat.  Thank god for the help I received from the NFB.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an 
issue. Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app 
purchases and when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my 
situation was given an instant refund no questions asked and no attitude 
what so ever. It must be like in many other situations all about who your 
talking to and what kind of day their having.


I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't 
be a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me 
and my family and friends.


Danny.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
use Apple products again.


I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special 
arrangements with him for a serial number which he could activate for me 
for 8 to 12 hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it 
worked, with the promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he 
refused.  This app was around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least. 
I finally bit the bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only 
was it not accessible in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption 
incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, he never replied back to me, and 
never cared that I had bought the product but was having an issue. 
suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with Apple.  They gave me the 
whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem that you bought an 
inaccessible app, you should have done your research more thoroughly, blah 
blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my power to test 
the accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally uncooperative. 
They still maintained that it's not their problem, and to get over it 
young.  When I explained it was $150, all they seemed to be capable of 
saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their canded appologies.  I 
finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told me flat out, even if 
it was music in the ITunes music store that had been corrupted, the bottom 
line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote unquote:  we don't refund 
blind people.  That was literally their exact words, I swear, to, god! 
We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked when hearing this!  I 
couldn't believe my ears!


Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll 
just say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on 
my behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not 
only a refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back 
to me.


Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad 
customer service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case 
closed.


Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be 
made, not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't 
get me wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app 
store, as well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to 
submit some form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm 
over-reacting, but come on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you 
don't refund quote: bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, 
you know what...


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Steve Holmes 
steve.holme...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How 
many times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it 
impossible to use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if 
there is any mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always 
be something there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for 
a11y information for the time being.


I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who 
have no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less 
accessible than it really might be.


On 

Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland

Wait a minute John...

Called? Apple ITunes support?  I didn't think you could do that from what 
everyone tells me at Apple.  You either have to e-mail them, or open a live 
chat session on


support.apple.com/itunes

What am I missing?  What is their number?  Apparently Apple Support told me 
they're not the same as Itunes Store support.
- Original Message - 
From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


  Yes, it comes down to the person you are speaking to.  I have never had 
any issues with refunds.  However, a friend of mine recently dealt with the 
proverbial bad apple customer service person when calling up iTunes 
support for some charged items.  I suggested that she call back later to 
deal with a different person.  She did, and she had no problems with the 
second person.



Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:

I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an 
issue. Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app 
purchases and when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my 
situation was given an instant refund no questions asked and no attitude 
what so ever. It must be like in many other situations all about who your 
talking to and what kind of day their having.


I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy 
wouldn't be a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do 
right by me and my family and friends.


Danny.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
use Apple products again.


I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work 
with Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special 
arrangements with him for a serial number which he could activate for me 
for 8 to 12 hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it 
worked, with the promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he 
refused.  This app was around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very 
least.  I finally bit the bullet and bought the app on the app store. 
Not only was it not accessible in the least, thus proving the dev's 
assumption incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, he never replied back to 
me, and never cared that I had bought the product but was having an 
issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with Apple.  They gave 
me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem that you bought 
an inaccessible app, you should have done your research more thoroughly, 
blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my power 
to test the accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally 
uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their problem, and to 
get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they seemed to be 
capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their canded 
appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told me 
flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost 
puked when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!


Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll 
just say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them 
on my behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not 
only a refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back 
to me.


Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad 
customer service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, 
case closed.


Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be 
made, not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't 
get me wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app 
store, as well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to 
submit some form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm 
over-reacting, but come on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you 
don't refund quote: bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, 
you know what...


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Steve Holmes 
steve.holme...@gmail.com

To: 

Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

2013-04-21 Thread Phil Halton
I have a USB mac keyboard with the numpad. Is it not possible then to use 
the insert key present on the numpad as the screen reader modifier key? Or, 
were your instructions for remapping the grave key intended for use with a 
bluetooth keyboard without the numpad?


Second question:
I have a bootcamp installation of windows7 and would like to use that serial 
# for the VMWare installation of windows7. I wonder, do you know, how can I 
de-authorize the bootcamp install, and so make the serial# available for a 
new install in the VMWare side.


We're getting closer. I sense a Fusion purchase in my near future if all 
goes well. I have to assume if everyone is using fusion/windows with such 
great success, there's no reason I can't as well.


I admit I don't use the windows installation solely because of the whole 
reboot requirement.




- Original Message - 
From: Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Help with VMWare Fusion


Hi Yolanda and Phil,

Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, 
and then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: 
windows is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo 
down arrow some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. 
Easy, isn't it?


2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that 
the key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and 
the mac option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, 
instead functions as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you 
are used to the layout of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is 
not what you want, because by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt 
is windows key, and the windows key does alt.


To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When 
fusion is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion 
preferences. Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different 
screens. You can switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at 
the top of the screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and 
mouse shortcuts. The screen for that will open.


Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how 
to handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have 
a listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is 
pressed. For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the 
windows logo key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further 
more, fusion also assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, 
which is copy, but you don't want alt c to be the same as control c in 
windows, do you? So, clear out all definitions in this listbox and start 
over with what you want yourself.


Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.


Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. 
The add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, 
field. In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the 
from section for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the 
rest, leave the entire from section for what it is. You only need to check 
this command key box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, 
check it, and hit okay. There you have your command key, the one next to 
spacebar, defined as alt in windows. All you did was hit add, check command 
key in the from section, and make that key do alt, in the to section.


Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In 
other words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, 
the second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the 
windows key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add 
again, check option in the from section, and in the to section for this 
definition, find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, holds 
the windows logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel natural.


Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens 
by default, is that you are switching away from 

Re: silver dollar app question.

2013-04-21 Thread Alex Hall
You get points for each plate you shoot, more points for being closer to the 
plate's center. It's a mostly mindless audio game, but it runs on the mac, 
which is great. As I said, I enjoy it enough, but I mostly bought it to support 
the developers so that, hopefully, more complex audio games can make their way 
to the mac. As for a podcast, I don't know; try google or applevis.com to see 
if someone made one. The app description does a good job explaining what the 
game has, though, and as to performance, my Mini runs it perfectly with no 
trouble at all.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a scoring system with that game?  Just curious.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That is odd. It's only for the Mac as far as I know. Personally, if only for 
 the shooting game and to support development of Mac audio games, I think it 
 is well worth the two dollars.
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, 
 that was free, but when I clicked the download app, option, it did 
 nothing, and the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I 
 found strange.  Does anyone know anything about this?
 I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
 nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
 before I purchased the Mac version.
 
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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

2013-04-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, John,

Thanks. That's just it: I choose login in the first table, then passwords in 
the second. Maybe I don't have the right item. I try Apple ID and 
com.apple.assistant, do a command-i, put in my user account password, and both 
display something that looks like hexidecimal values in the password field.

Thanks,
Teresa
On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
 passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, choose 
 the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a checkbox to 
 show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've used this 
 trick a few times to find passwords to networks and such.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Director
 Mac for the Blind
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 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I 
 go to what appears to be the login and press show password, there is 
 what looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
 
 Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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alfred

2013-04-21 Thread wayne17a
Hi list does anybody know if Alfred is accessable with vo and is it very
handy to have thanks in advance 

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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

2013-04-21 Thread John Panarese
   You want the actual Apple ID only.  

Take Care

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On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, John,
 
 Thanks. That's just it: I choose login in the first table, then passwords in 
 the second. Maybe I don't have the right item. I try Apple ID and 
 com.apple.assistant, do a command-i, put in my user account password, and 
 both display something that looks like hexidecimal values in the password 
 field.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
 passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, choose 
 the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a checkbox to 
 show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've used this 
 trick a few times to find passwords to networks and such.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I 
 go to what appears to be the login and press show password, there is 
 what looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
 
 Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Sean Murphy
Hi,


Each country has different consumer laws where your rights are protected. Since 
Apple has a centre in a lot of countries. The laws for that country apply. In 
the example of a $150.00 app isn't accessible or meets the users needs. In 
Australia you have grounds to get a refund. In fact, I believe there is an link 
on the Apple web site to permit you to get this refund. I believe the UK has 
similar laws to Australia. 

I do not know if the USA has these consumer laws, in protecting your rights.



In relation to rating apps or even having a method of tagging if it is 
accessible. If it is left up to the end-user. Then software houses can game the 
ranking. This has occurred on any platform where you can rank the application. 
So it isn't a Apple specific issue I  am referring to here. Example:

I create an app that claims to be accessible. Then I spend a day ranking it 
high with the accessibility ranking flag. Result, you cannot trust the ranking 
system completely.


Since Apple provides the libraries to be used by developers. Then I am sure it 
would be possible to have a script that detects the usage of the libraries for 
Voice-Over. Then a flag could be raised indicating there is possible 
accessibility in this app. The only true way to test an app is by a person.

Sean 
On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund polacy... 
 allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to me.  It was 
 enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever use Apple 
 products again.
 
 I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
 Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
 with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
 hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
 promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
 around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the bullet 
 and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible in the 
 least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, 
 he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the product 
 but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with 
 Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem 
 that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your research more 
 thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my 
 power to test the accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally 
 uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their problem, and to get 
 over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they seemed to be capable 
 of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their canded appologies.  I 
 finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told me flat out, even if it 
 was music in the ITunes music store that had been corrupted, the bottom line 
 was, accessibility not withstanding, quote unquote:  we don't refund blind 
 people.  That was literally their exact words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? 
 refund, blind people!  I almost puked when hearing this!  I couldn't believe 
 my ears!
 
 Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
 say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
 behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
 refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
 
 Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
 service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
 
 Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
 not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
 wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
 well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
 form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
 on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
 bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
 Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!
 
 
 I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How many 
 times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible to 
 use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
 mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
 there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y 
 information for the time being.
 
 I tend to agree with the previous 

Re: flack conversion?

2013-04-21 Thread Eric Caron
If you already have Amadeus Pro then you can convert easily using that program. 
 It gives you many conversion options.  this is a paid app. 

I find it very VO friendly.


 Eric Caron 
On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:26 PM, - dandun...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Either sox or xld can do this conversion.  A google will get you either using 
 os10 and the name.
 
 The former is terminal only, the latter gui or terminal.  Both are free and 
 have multiple audio functions and features in addition to format conversion.
 
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RE: flack conversion?

2013-04-21 Thread Kliphton
Isn't that app like 60 bucks?

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Subject: Re: flack conversion?

If you already have Amadeus Pro then you can convert easily using that
program.  It gives you many conversion options.  this is a paid app. 

I find it very VO friendly.


 Eric Caron 
On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:26 PM, - dandun...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Either sox or xld can do this conversion.  A google will get you either
using os10 and the name.
 
 The former is terminal only, the latter gui or terminal.  Both are free
and have multiple audio functions and features in addition to format
conversion.
 
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Re: alfred

2013-04-21 Thread Esther
Hi Wayne,

The answer to your question is that at present Alfred has some accessibility 
issues with VoiceOver.  Scott Howell, who hasn't been on this list for a while 
due to his current workload, wrote me a few weeks ago that he was actively 
working with the developers to address these issues.  He thought that even as 
of today, this was a nice app, that was pretty useful.  The basic app is free, 
and then you can purchase the PowerPack, which he thought was worth the money.  
I haven't used this app myself, though I've read about it.  Scott was pretty 
upbeat that the developers were willing to work with him and improve the app 
once they were aware of where the problems lay.

HTH.  Maybe somebody else who has used the app can give you more direct 
information. Cheers,

Esther

On 21 Apr 2013, at 15:37, wayne17a wrote:

 Hi list does anybody know if Alfred is accessable with vo and is it very 
 handy to have thanks in advance
 
 

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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

2013-04-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks John. Unfortunately, it looks like this method won't work for me. The 
only thing I seem to have is apple ID authentication, which shows password 
values of something like a hundred characters, which is definitely not what I 
typed in. Something is screwy on my machine. Not surprising. :)

Thanks,
Teresa
On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:40 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

   You want the actual Apple ID only.  
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, John,
 
 Thanks. That's just it: I choose login in the first table, then passwords in 
 the second. Maybe I don't have the right item. I try Apple ID and 
 com.apple.assistant, do a command-i, put in my user account password, and 
 both display something that looks like hexidecimal values in the password 
 field.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
 passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, choose 
 the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a checkbox to 
 show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've used this 
 trick a few times to find passwords to networks and such.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I 
 go to what appears to be the login and press show password, there is 
 what looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
 
 Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

2013-04-21 Thread John Panarese
It should be further down the list.  Make sure you definitely have the 
login item chose from the keychain column and then passwords from the category 
list, which is the second one down.  YOur Apple ID should just say, Apple ID.  
I just tested this on two machines here.


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On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:31 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks John. Unfortunately, it looks like this method won't work for me. The 
 only thing I seem to have is apple ID authentication, which shows password 
 values of something like a hundred characters, which is definitely not what I 
 typed in. Something is screwy on my machine. Not surprising. :)
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:40 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  You want the actual Apple ID only.  
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, John,
 
 Thanks. That's just it: I choose login in the first table, then passwords 
 in the second. Maybe I don't have the right item. I try Apple ID and 
 com.apple.assistant, do a command-i, put in my user account password, and 
 both display something that looks like hexidecimal values in the password 
 field.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
 passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, 
 choose the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a 
 checkbox to show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've 
 used this trick a few times to find passwords to networks and such.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When 
 I go to what appears to be the login and press show password, there 
 is what looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
 
 Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Soundforge for mac.

2013-04-21 Thread Juan Pablo
Dear all,

Most of us believed that Sony put voice over compatibility in his newest 
release, sound forge for mac.

Sadly, after some test, My opinion is that Sony was made a horrible job.
I could write here about the almost buttons unlaveled, check boxes without any 
information, scrolls without any extra information speakable by voice over.
It is impossible make an advanced edition job in this software. I know that 
provably would be receibe a lot of critics. But using soundforge with the jaws 
scripts I am able to do more things than in the  mac version.
I tried to use inside soundforge the Mastering made by izotope, Ozone 5 without 
too much success as well. I do not know if cause soundforge problems or 
whatever. Possibly yes, because Izotope many moths ago said that all their 
souftware are voiceover compatible.


Best,
Juan.

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Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Steve Holmes
I just looked over at my magic trackpad and flicked around a bit to be sure it 
wasn't pressed down or stuck or something. All is fine there but I still hear 
Apple submenu if I go into rename a file and hit space and/or arrow around 
without interacting first. I think I will give Apple a call tomorrow and see if 
anyone there can give me some ideas. Probably have to check with the a11y folks 
as this has no meaning if VO is turned off and not being used.

On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.
 
 Chris.
 - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Submenu
 
 
 Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
 trackpad?
 
 Just a thought.
 
 Harry
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
 On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
 Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
 characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
 then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
 cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
 control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
 cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this 
 in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I 
 would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; 
 has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying 
 Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
 
 Thanks for any ideas or help.
 
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Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

2013-04-21 Thread Steve Holmes
I may have come late to this little party, but what is in common with epub and 
iTunes? Are these books somehow readable in iTunes? I don't quite understand 
the naming or meta data being changed in iTunes for an epub book.

What am I missing:)?

On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Annie,
 
 Not sure, but I think what I did was first interact with the text field and 
 then do VO-Shift-Space to click, and then I could delete the text in the File 
 Renamer text box dialog window.  I don't think that I tried routing my mouse 
 cursor there first, since I was able to do the click after interacting.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 07:16, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Esther.
 
 I could not do that vo+shift click, I have tried a lot of times. I tried to 
 press vo+command+f5, I have also tried that before, but suddenly I could 
 press vo+shift+space, and I was not thrown out of the program, and I could 
 delete the content of the field and write something else.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the 
 File Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that 
 you can't change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's 
 AppleScripts, is that there's usually a text box filled with a default 
 value.  I just downloaded the script to check.  Did you try clicking in the 
 text box so you could edit it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, you 
 may think that you can't edit the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, and 
 then I could delete the default string:
 [artist] - [name]
 Remember that each of the arguments like artist and name is surrounded 
 by brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to 
 examine one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields are 
 used. Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to Get Info, and examine 
 the Info tab. My O'Reilly books use name, artist, and album, where 
 name and album, give the title of the book, and artist gives the 
 author.  My iPhone user guides from iBooks only use name and artist.  
 Do not try to type in a field like [author], because that's not a tag 
 that iTunes uses.  If, for example, you wanted to use the author, you would 
 delete references to [name] and have the text argument only contain a 
 string like:
 [artist]
 I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on 
 title. If the title information is under the comments field, and you 
 wanted to replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type 
 in:
 [comments]
 Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be 
 a valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for you 
 ePub books.  Maybe the description field is used for title information. 
 You can activate it in the View menu options by bringing up the window 
 with Command-J and checking the box for description. None of my ePub 
 books use this field, and you won't find it on the Info tab, but you can 
 set your library to display this.
 
 HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is 
 that you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  They're 
 buried under the Package contents of the script under Resources  Scripts  
 main.scpt.  This used to be a great way to learn about AppleScript coding. 
 This didn't seem like Doug's style of writing AppleScripts, and I found out 
 that this was a contributed AppleScript from someone else that he re-wrote.
 
 By the way, I thought that the This Tag That Tag AppleScript might also 
 rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
 folder and file names then match the tags.   
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Esther.
 
 I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
 should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately 
 the field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically 
 uses the author and the title.
 
 It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
 think I will need to make a donation.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie, 
 
 If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
 some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
 changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
 epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is 
 just name, which is the same as the name track for music tracks.   
 And for my ePub books, the author is entered into the artist field. 
 Probably the This Tag That Tag AppleScript could be used for this.  
 From the description, I think the way this AppleScript works is that you 
 

Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Kerri
I thought so too but I even turned my track pad off and it still occurs.
On 2013-04-21, at 2:20 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.
 
 Chris.
 - Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Submenu
 
 
 Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
 trackpad?
 
 Just a thought.
 
 Harry
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
 On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
 Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
 characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
 then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
 cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
 control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
 cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this 
 in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I 
 would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; 
 has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying 
 Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
 
 Thanks for any ideas or help.
 
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Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

2013-04-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Steve,

You can sync books in IBooks through ITunes.

HtH,
Teresa
On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I may have come late to this little party, but what is in common with epub 
 and iTunes? Are these books somehow readable in iTunes? I don't quite 
 understand the naming or meta data being changed in iTunes for an epub book.
 
 What am I missing:)?
 
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 Not sure, but I think what I did was first interact with the text field and 
 then do VO-Shift-Space to click, and then I could delete the text in the 
 File Renamer text box dialog window.  I don't think that I tried routing my 
 mouse cursor there first, since I was able to do the click after interacting.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 07:16, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Esther.
 
 I could not do that vo+shift click, I have tried a lot of times. I tried to 
 press vo+command+f5, I have also tried that before, but suddenly I could 
 press vo+shift+space, and I was not thrown out of the program, and I could 
 delete the content of the field and write something else.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the 
 File Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that 
 you can't change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's 
 AppleScripts, is that there's usually a text box filled with a default 
 value.  I just downloaded the script to check.  Did you try clicking in 
 the text box so you could edit it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, 
 you may think that you can't edit the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, 
 and then I could delete the default string:
 [artist] - [name]
 Remember that each of the arguments like artist and name is surrounded 
 by brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to 
 examine one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields 
 are used. Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to Get Info, and 
 examine the Info tab. My O'Reilly books use name, artist, and 
 album, where name and album, give the title of the book, and 
 artist gives the author.  My iPhone user guides from iBooks only use 
 name and artist.  Do not try to type in a field like [author], 
 because that's not a tag that iTunes uses.  If, for example, you wanted to 
 use the author, you would delete references to [name] and have the text 
 argument only contain a string like:
 [artist]
 I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on 
 title. If the title information is under the comments field, and you 
 wanted to replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type 
 in:
 [comments]
 Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be 
 a valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for 
 you ePub books.  Maybe the description field is used for title 
 information. You can activate it in the View menu options by bringing up 
 the window with Command-J and checking the box for description. None of 
 my ePub books use this field, and you won't find it on the Info tab, but 
 you can set your library to display this.
 
 HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is 
 that you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  
 They're buried under the Package contents of the script under Resources  
 Scripts  main.scpt.  This used to be a great way to learn about 
 AppleScript coding. This didn't seem like Doug's style of writing 
 AppleScripts, and I found out that this was a contributed AppleScript from 
 someone else that he re-wrote.
 
 By the way, I thought that the This Tag That Tag AppleScript might also 
 rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
 folder and file names then match the tags.   
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Esther.
 
 I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
 should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately 
 the field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically 
 uses the author and the title.
 
 It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
 think I will need to make a donation.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Annie, 
 
 If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
 some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
 changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
 epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is 
 just name, which is the same as the name track for music tracks.   
 And for my ePub books, the author is entered into the artist 

Re: alfred

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland
What even is! Alfred?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: wayne17a 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:37 PM
  Subject: alfred


  Hi list does anybody know if Alfred is accessable with vo and is it very 
handy to have thanks in advance 


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Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland

Then, I'm totally baffled.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


I just looked over at my magic trackpad and flicked around a bit to be sure 
it wasn't pressed down or stuck or something. All is fine there but I still 
hear Apple submenu if I go into rename a file and hit space and/or arrow 
around without interacting first. I think I will give Apple a call tomorrow 
and see if anyone there can give me some ideas. Probably have to check with 
the a11y folks as this has no meaning if VO is turned off and not being 
used.


On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.

Chris.
- Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
trackpad?


Just a thought.

Harry

On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:


Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
keep saying Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
that.


Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: Apple Submenu

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Gilland

OK, let's try something.

This is probably gonna sound dumb, I know, but let's see if it even is the 
trackpad in the first place, or maybe corrupted kext drivers somewhere.


First of all, try unplugging the track pad, then see if it persists.

If it does, then try going to system preferences, and create another user 
account, login as that new user, then see if it continues.  This will help 
us pinpoint down if it's an issue with your user profile, or if it is OS 
wide  specific.  I know this is a step that 99% of the time is ignored and 
not thought of taking seriously, but trust me, you'd be surprised how often 
or not the problem is within the user account itself.  If this wind up being 
the case, let us know, and I can then walk you through... at your own 
risk... enabling the root user, and migrating your old user settings and 
account over to the new user, then redisabling the root account when 
done/deleting the old corrupted account.  It's a kind of risky process, and 
that's why I don't want to tell you how to do it just quite yet, unless it's 
absolutely 100 percent our last avenue to take when all else fails.


Another thing also you could try doing is booting to the mountain lion 
recovery partition, then go to the disk utility manager, and run a verify 
followed by a permissions repair on the volume in question.  I know, you're 
probably thinking, how could that fix a Voiceover issue like this.  oh 
huhho, trust me!  You'd be surprised!


Anyway, try those things, and let us know what happens, then we'll go from 
there accordingly.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


I thought so too but I even turned my track pad off and it still occurs.
On 2013-04-21, at 2:20 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.

Chris.
- Original Message - From: Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
trackpad?


Just a thought.

Harry

On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:


Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
Apple submenu every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
keep saying Apple submenu I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
that.


Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

2013-04-21 Thread Maria Joe Chapman
HI.  when I review an app, I try to mention it's status regarding 
accessibility.  I think if we mention it in reviews then possibly this might 
help to give a new buyer an idea.

I have been hesitant to buy mac apps because usually I have no idea whether or 
not they are accessible.  If I can find a free version or trial version that is 
a good thing.  but I digress.

 
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On 22/04/2013, at 11:46 AM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 
 Each country has different consumer laws where your rights are protected. 
 Since Apple has a centre in a lot of countries. The laws for that country 
 apply. In the example of a $150.00 app isn't accessible or meets the users 
 needs. In Australia you have grounds to get a refund. In fact, I believe 
 there is an link on the Apple web site to permit you to get this refund. I 
 believe the UK has similar laws to Australia. 
 
 I do not know if the USA has these consumer laws, in protecting your rights.
 
 
 
 In relation to rating apps or even having a method of tagging if it is 
 accessible. If it is left up to the end-user. Then software houses can game 
 the ranking. This has occurred on any platform where you can rank the 
 application. So it isn't a Apple specific issue I  am referring to here. 
 Example:
 
 I create an app that claims to be accessible. Then I spend a day ranking it 
 high with the accessibility ranking flag. Result, you cannot trust the 
 ranking system completely.
 
 
 Since Apple provides the libraries to be used by developers. Then I am sure 
 it would be possible to have a script that detects the usage of the libraries 
 for Voice-Over. Then a flag could be raised indicating there is possible 
 accessibility in this app. The only true way to test an app is by a person.
 
 Sean 
 On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
 polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
 me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
 use Apple products again.
 
 I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
 Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
 with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
 hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
 promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
 around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the 
 bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible 
 in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote 
 the dev, he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the 
 product but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up 
 with Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our 
 problem that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your 
 research more thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did 
 everything! within my power to test the accessibility before buying, but the 
 dev was totally uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their 
 problem, and to get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they 
 seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their 
 canded appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told 
 me flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
 corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
 unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
 words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked 
 when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!
 
 Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
 say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
 behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
 refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
 
 Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
 service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
 
 Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
 not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
 wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
 well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
 form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
 on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
 bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...
 
 Chris.
 
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

2013-04-21 Thread Maria Joe Chapman
Hi.  I have used the insert key on a usb keyboard with vmware with no troubles 
on a mac mini.

hth 
Maria Chapman
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The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
Mahatma Gandhi

On 22/04/2013, at 11:20 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a USB mac keyboard with the numpad. Is it not possible then to use the 
 insert key present on the numpad as the screen reader modifier key? Or, were 
 your instructions for remapping the grave key intended for use with a 
 bluetooth keyboard without the numpad?
 
 Second question:
 I have a bootcamp installation of windows7 and would like to use that serial 
 # for the VMWare installation of windows7. I wonder, do you know, how can I 
 de-authorize the bootcamp install, and so make the serial# available for a 
 new install in the VMWare side.
 
 We're getting closer. I sense a Fusion purchase in my near future if all goes 
 well. I have to assume if everyone is using fusion/windows with such great 
 success, there's no reason I can't as well.
 
 I admit I don't use the windows installation solely because of the whole 
 reboot requirement.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: Help with VMWare Fusion
 
 
 Hi Yolanda and Phil,
 
 Let's not make this more complicated than it is.
 
 1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
 menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
 you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, 
 and then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: 
 windows is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo 
 down arrow some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. 
 Easy, isn't it?
 
 2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
 fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that 
 the key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and 
 the mac option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, instead 
 functions as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you are used to 
 the layout of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is not what you 
 want, because by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt is windows 
 key, and the windows key does alt.
 
 To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When 
 fusion is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion 
 preferences. Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different 
 screens. You can switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at 
 the top of the screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and 
 mouse shortcuts. The screen for that will open.
 
 Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how 
 to handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have a 
 listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is pressed. 
 For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the windows 
 logo key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further more, fusion 
 also assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, which is copy, 
 but you don't want alt c to be the same as control c in windows, do you? So, 
 clear out all definitions in this listbox and start over with what you want 
 yourself.
 
 Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
 button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
 the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
 definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.
 
 Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. 
 The add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, 
 field. In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the from 
 section for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the rest, 
 leave the entire from section for what it is. You only need to check this 
 command key box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, check 
 it, and hit okay. There you have your command key, the one next to spacebar, 
 defined as alt in windows. All you did was hit add, check command key in the 
 from section, and make that key do alt, in the to section.
 
 Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In other 
 words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, the 
 second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the 
 windows key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add 
 again, check option in the from section, and in the to section for this 
 definition, find the unlabeled checkbox. That very 

Re: Soundforge for mac.

2013-04-21 Thread Ray Foret Jr
That is very much at odds with what I've heard about it.  I understood that 
Sound Forge for the Mac is very much acessible.  Kevin, can you jump in on this?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Juan Pablo jpcula...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
  
 Most of us believed that Sony put voice over compatibility in his newest 
 release, sound forge for mac.
  
 Sadly, after some test, My opinion is that Sony was made a horrible job.
 I could write here about the almost buttons unlaveled, check boxes without  
 any information, scrolls without any extra information speakable by voice 
 over.
 It is impossible make an advanced edition job in this software. I know that 
 provably would be receibe a lot of critics. But using soundforge with the 
 jaws scripts I am able to do more things than in the  mac version.
 I tried to use inside soundforge the Mastering made by izotope, Ozone 5 
 without too much success as well. I do not know if cause soundforge problems 
 or whatever. Possibly yes, because Izotope many moths ago said that all their 
 souftware are voiceover compatible.
  
  
 Best,
 Juan.
 
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