Update issues and a complete install for the I Mac.
Well, I thought I'd share this with everyone. Two days ago I installed the latest update for my Mac when I read on this list that one had come out. Well, the next day being yesterday, I went to work thinking that my Mac had updated as it had restarted the night before. When I got back home yesterday, I found that the Mac was still stuck at the authentication log in or something like that. When I got it to work finally, it wanted a key chain password. It didn't matter what key chain password I put in, it didn't like it. So I managed to cancel and put in a new keychain password after resetting my keychain but it kept asking for a password afterwardds. So a complete install was necessary. Thank goodness that Sabahattin (who has joined this list) was able to help me with the command line to download and put Mavericks on a flash USB key. This has prompted me to invest in a Mac mini as well soon so I will have two devices as I have lost my Windows machine for now. I wonder what the moral of this story is! Not to forget your keychain password? I'll let you all judge! Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features – MacStories
Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the Mac, to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies (Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today. Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is fundamentally different from Speak Selection, which only reads aloud selected text. By contrast, Speak Screen will read aloud everything on the screen -- text, button labels, etc. Zoom. Apple has made some welcome tweaks to its Zoom functionality in iOS 8. The hallmark feature is users now have the ability to specify which part of the screen is zoomed in, as well as adjust the level of
Re: Question about Apple wireless keyboard
so how can i do that? can you please guide me.. thanks On 02 Jul 2014, at 12:06 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Yes, you might could On 7/1/2014 4:41 PM, isaac wrote: I don't know you can. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: Can I start my mac book pro using my apple wireless keyboard? because in the upper right part of my wireless keyboard is eject. thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I just tryed powering it on and that does not work. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:01 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: so how can i do that? can you please guide me.. thanks On 02 Jul 2014, at 12:06 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Yes, you might could On 7/1/2014 4:41 PM, isaac wrote: I don't know you can. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: Can I start my mac book pro using my apple wireless keyboard? because in the upper right part of my wireless keyboard is eject. thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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In what way don't you like him? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 10:31, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the Mac, to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies (Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today. Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is fundamentally different from Speak Selection, which only reads aloud selected text. By contrast, Speak Screen will read aloud everything on the screen -- text, button labels, etc. Zoom. Apple has made some welcome tweaks to its Zoom functionality in iOS 8. The hallmark feature is users now have the ability to specify which part of
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Which voice do you use, then if you don’t like Alex. On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:01, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: In what way don't you like him? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 10:31, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the Mac, to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies (Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today. Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is fundamentally different from Speak Selection, which only reads aloud selected text. By
Re: An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features – MacStories
My only complain about Alex on the Mac is that the voice tends to slur a bit when the rate of speech is up to a high value and if the inflection or intonation is past 85%. Other than that, it's a pleasant voice with a realistic breathing algorithm. I notice that it doesn't breathe when you perform a continuous read but it does if you're using arrow keys to move line by line. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/2/2014 7:06 AM, Daniel McGee wrote: Which voice do you use, then if you don’t like Alex. On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:01, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: In what way don't you like him? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 10:31, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the
Re: Update issues and a complete install for the I Mac.
Hi there I have gotten to where when I want to update my computer that I always wait until I have time to babysit my computer. This is so I won't get any surprises the next day like you did. It just so happens that I set my keychain password to be the same thing is my Apple ID so that is what unlikely that I will forget what it is. Some people say you shouldn't do that, but I don't want to password myself so much that I protect my computer against me. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well, I thought I'd share this with everyone. Two days ago I installed the latest update for my Mac when I read on this list that one had come out. Well, the next day being yesterday, I went to work thinking that my Mac had updated as it had restarted the night before. When I got back home yesterday, I found that the Mac was still stuck at the authentication log in or something like that. When I got it to work finally, it wanted a key chain password. It didn't matter what key chain password I put in, it didn't like it. So I managed to cancel and put in a new keychain password after resetting my keychain but it kept asking for a password afterwardds. So a complete install was necessary. Thank goodness that Sabahattin (who has joined this list) was able to help me with the command line to download and put Mavericks on a flash USB key. This has prompted me to invest in a Mac mini as well soon so I will have two devices as I have lost my Windows machine for now. I wonder what the moral of this story is! Not to forget your keychain password? I'll let you all judge! Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi. I am not a fan of alex. I use some of the other english voices, mostly heather because I once bought the acapella voices, because they are better for danish. Best regards Annie. Den 02/07/2014 kl. 11.31 skrev Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se: Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the Mac, to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies (Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today. Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is fundamentally different from Speak Selection, which only reads aloud selected text. By contrast, Speak Screen will read aloud
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Hi there I realize that we are doing a lot of speculation here, but does anybody know if we will be able to have a female voice with iOS eight? My sided husband had this reaction when I told him about Alex on iOS eight. He is been using voice over a lot lately to do reading on his iPhone because he's been having some trouble with his eyes when it comes to reading. I guess he could get one of the Irish forces or South African voices that are on there now. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:17 AM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: My only complain about Alex on the Mac is that the voice tends to slur a bit when the rate of speech is up to a high value and if the inflection or intonation is past 85%. Other than that, it's a pleasant voice with a realistic breathing algorithm. I notice that it doesn't breathe when you perform a continuous read but it does if you're using arrow keys to move line by line. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/2/2014 7:06 AM, Daniel McGee wrote: Which voice do you use, then if you don’t like Alex. On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:01, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: In what way don't you like him? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 10:31, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course,
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Most things were backed up on my thunderbolt SSD drive. My Key chain was my i cloud password but it didn't like it. I forget my Apple ID too often because Apple have complicated matters that they want you to have two passwords and I forget my Apple ID because of this. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:39 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I have gotten to where when I want to update my computer that I always wait until I have time to babysit my computer. This is so I won't get any surprises the next day like you did. It just so happens that I set my keychain password to be the same thing is my Apple ID so that is what unlikely that I will forget what it is. Some people say you shouldn't do that, but I don't want to password myself so much that I protect my computer against me. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well, I thought I'd share this with everyone. Two days ago I installed the latest update for my Mac when I read on this list that one had come out. Well, the next day being yesterday, I went to work thinking that my Mac had updated as it had restarted the night before. When I got back home yesterday, I found that the Mac was still stuck at the authentication log in or something like that. When I got it to work finally, it wanted a key chain password. It didn't matter what key chain password I put in, it didn't like it. So I managed to cancel and put in a new keychain password after resetting my keychain but it kept asking for a password afterwardds. So a complete install was necessary. Thank goodness that Sabahattin (who has joined this list) was able to help me with the command line to download and put Mavericks on a flash USB key. This has prompted me to invest in a Mac mini as well soon so I will have two devices as I have lost my Windows machine for now. I wonder what the moral of this story is! Not to forget your keychain password? I'll let you all judge! Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi! I use Alva compact for Swedish voice and Moira compact for english. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 21:46 skrev Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com: I prefer, using compact Daniel. However, I will say that Karen does sound more pleasant to the ear in contrast to Samantha. You mentioned you use her temporarily. I'm just curious, what is your preferred voice then? For me, the reason why I use Daniel compact compared to the HQ offering is because I find that compact doesn't come across as croaky sounding. Also, in my own personal taste, I found that for me at least compact tends to pronounce words better. Words such as: in, two, the and her that he says in HQ form I find are either too quiet or in the case of the word her, I feel that this word gets cut off a bit early. With compact, I don't get these problems nearly as much. On 1 Jul 2014, at 20:32, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: Do you like Karen? I am using her temporarily. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, I know for me, Alex will be a wonderful improvement compared to Samantha. I have respect, for those who like Samantha but she really gives me a head ake when I tried to listen to her. lol On 23 Jun 2014, at 16:18, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well let's wait it out I guess. It's probably true but probably rumour as well. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 23/06/2014 16:09, Stephen Toth wrote: I know that Alex will only work on 64-bit devices. This means the iPhone 5S and iPad Air, and iPad Mini, 2nd generation. Alex is 64-bit because OS X is 64-bit. However, we have had Alex running on 867 MHz G4s with 512 MB of RAM, ATA 5, and a system bus of 133 MHz. Why can't we have it on our iPhone 4S and iPod 5th gen devices as well? We've seen Alex run on 32-bit MacBook Pros with Core Duos in them, and I still have these old vintage machines that I am talking about today. I just don't get it. More marketing...Hi, I'm pretty excited about having Alex speaking under ios 8. Will he work on the iPad 3rd generation as well as the latest iPad mini? Thanks Chris -- Chris G jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Email: jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101 Fax: 888-766-7985 Direct: (716) 965-5717 web: www.mysticaccess.com twitter: JediKent -- Chris G jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Email: jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101 Fax: 888-766-7985 Direct: (716) 965-5717 web: www.mysticaccess.com twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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Hi. There is a button somewhere on the google search page where you can press if you are a voiceover user and that should solve the problem. Best regards Annie. Den 01/07/2014 kl. 21.31 skrev Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com: All, I am pleased to report, that as of Mavericks 10.9.4 with the combined update of Safari 7.0.5 I am no longer experiencing this issue. Things work as expected once I open the browser. So I'm glad this has been resolved. On 1 Jul 2014, at 20:25, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have had the problem sometimes but not now. Though i have problems with safari and some embeded players which stops after a while. So i rather use google chrome. /A 30 jun 2014 kl. 19:03 skrev Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com: Hi isaac, interesting. Lets see what others have to say. On 30 Jun 2014, at 17:58, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi! As someone stated he seems to not be able to talk that good over 80%. I really want to have my speech set to high speed so thats why. /A 2 jul 2014 kl. 13:01 skrev Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com: In what way don't you like him? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 10:31, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the Mac, to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies (Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today. Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is
Re: Update issues and a complete install for the I Mac.
Hi! Just a question for you Kawal. Whats the brand of your ssd thunderbolt drive? I really got intrested. 2 jul 2014 kl. 13:52 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com: Most things were backed up on my thunderbolt SSD drive. My Key chain was my i cloud password but it didn't like it. I forget my Apple ID too often because Apple have complicated matters that they want you to have two passwords and I forget my Apple ID because of this. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:39 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I have gotten to where when I want to update my computer that I always wait until I have time to babysit my computer. This is so I won't get any surprises the next day like you did. It just so happens that I set my keychain password to be the same thing is my Apple ID so that is what unlikely that I will forget what it is. Some people say you shouldn't do that, but I don't want to password myself so much that I protect my computer against me. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well, I thought I'd share this with everyone. Two days ago I installed the latest update for my Mac when I read on this list that one had come out. Well, the next day being yesterday, I went to work thinking that my Mac had updated as it had restarted the night before. When I got back home yesterday, I found that the Mac was still stuck at the authentication log in or something like that. When I got it to work finally, it wanted a key chain password. It didn't matter what key chain password I put in, it didn't like it. So I managed to cancel and put in a new keychain password after resetting my keychain but it kept asking for a password afterwardds. So a complete install was necessary. Thank goodness that Sabahattin (who has joined this list) was able to help me with the command line to download and put Mavericks on a flash USB key. This has prompted me to invest in a Mac mini as well soon so I will have two devices as I have lost my Windows machine for now. I wonder what the moral of this story is! Not to forget your keychain password? I'll let you all judge! Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Update issues and a complete install for the I Mac.
It's the one which is sold in the Apple store. Lassi Ruggid best to look on the Apple Store but it cost £179 or something like that. Thanks. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 01:22 pm, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Just a question for you Kawal. Whats the brand of your ssd thunderbolt drive? I really got intrested. 2 jul 2014 kl. 13:52 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com: Most things were backed up on my thunderbolt SSD drive. My Key chain was my i cloud password but it didn't like it. I forget my Apple ID too often because Apple have complicated matters that they want you to have two passwords and I forget my Apple ID because of this. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:39 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I have gotten to where when I want to update my computer that I always wait until I have time to babysit my computer. This is so I won't get any surprises the next day like you did. It just so happens that I set my keychain password to be the same thing is my Apple ID so that is what unlikely that I will forget what it is. Some people say you shouldn't do that, but I don't want to password myself so much that I protect my computer against me. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well, I thought I'd share this with everyone. Two days ago I installed the latest update for my Mac when I read on this list that one had come out. Well, the next day being yesterday, I went to work thinking that my Mac had updated as it had restarted the night before. When I got back home yesterday, I found that the Mac was still stuck at the authentication log in or something like that. When I got it to work finally, it wanted a key chain password. It didn't matter what key chain password I put in, it didn't like it. So I managed to cancel and put in a new keychain password after resetting my keychain but it kept asking for a password afterwardds. So a complete install was necessary. Thank goodness that Sabahattin (who has joined this list) was able to help me with the command line to download and put Mavericks on a flash USB key. This has prompted me to invest in a Mac mini as well soon so I will have two devices as I have lost my Windows machine for now. I wonder what the moral of this story is! Not to forget your keychain password? I'll let you all judge! Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Update issues and a complete install for the I Mac.
Hi, Actually, this problem, in my opinion, make it necessary to do a clean install. Keychain problems can be frustrating, but can usually be worked around either through the Keychain Utility, the Terminal, or logging in as a Guest user and manipulating things from there. One thing to note with respect to your iCloud Keychain vs your regular Mac keychain, is that they are different entities. At login, if asked for a Keychain password, it will have to do with your Mac's login password, not your Apple ID or iCloud Keychain code. You did though, already do the complete install, so this is just for future reference. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:04 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well, I thought I'd share this with everyone. Two days ago I installed the latest update for my Mac when I read on this list that one had come out. Well, the next day being yesterday, I went to work thinking that my Mac had updated as it had restarted the night before. When I got back home yesterday, I found that the Mac was still stuck at the authentication log in or something like that. When I got it to work finally, it wanted a key chain password. It didn't matter what key chain password I put in, it didn't like it. So I managed to cancel and put in a new keychain password after resetting my keychain but it kept asking for a password afterwardds. So a complete install was necessary. Thank goodness that Sabahattin (who has joined this list) was able to help me with the command line to download and put Mavericks on a flash USB key. This has prompted me to invest in a Mac mini as well soon so I will have two devices as I have lost my Windows machine for now. I wonder what the moral of this story is! Not to forget your keychain password? I'll let you all judge! Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Alex on IOS 8
I kind of like her, I think I may try her over Daniel, sense I kind of like his voice, but at the same time, he sounds a little too serious. On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: Do you like Karen? I am using her temporarily. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, I know for me, Alex will be a wonderful improvement compared to Samantha. I have respect, for those who like Samantha but she really gives me a head ake when I tried to listen to her. lol On 23 Jun 2014, at 16:18, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well let's wait it out I guess. It's probably true but probably rumour as well. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 23/06/2014 16:09, Stephen Toth wrote: I know that Alex will only work on 64-bit devices. This means the iPhone 5S and iPad Air, and iPad Mini, 2nd generation. Alex is 64-bit because OS X is 64-bit. However, we have had Alex running on 867 MHz G4s with 512 MB of RAM, ATA 5, and a system bus of 133 MHz. Why can't we have it on our iPhone 4S and iPod 5th gen devices as well? We've seen Alex run on 32-bit MacBook Pros with Core Duos in them, and I still have these old vintage machines that I am talking about today. I just don't get it. More marketing...Hi, I'm pretty excited about having Alex speaking under ios 8. Will he work on the iPad 3rd generation as well as the latest iPad mini? Thanks Chris -- Chris G jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Email: jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101 Fax: 888-766-7985 Direct: (716) 965-5717 web: www.mysticaccess.com twitter: JediKent -- Chris G jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Email: jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101 Fax: 888-766-7985 Direct: (716) 965-5717 web: www.mysticaccess.com twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Alex on Mac was Re: An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features – MacStories
Ar I see. I have him on about 50% speed on my mac and intonation about the same so don't experience these issues. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 13:19, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! As someone stated he seems to not be able to talk that good over 80%. I really want to have my speech set to high speed so thats why. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features – MacStories
The voices shouldn't change a whole lot just because it's iOS 8. We just have a new voice or will be and that's that. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 12:51, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi there I realize that we are doing a lot of speculation here, but does anybody know if we will be able to have a female voice with iOS eight? My sided husband had this reaction when I told him about Alex on iOS eight. He is been using voice over a lot lately to do reading on his iPhone because he's been having some trouble with his eyes when it comes to reading. I guess he could get one of the Irish forces or South African voices that are on there now. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:17 AM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: My only complain about Alex on the Mac is that the voice tends to slur a bit when the rate of speech is up to a high value and if the inflection or intonation is past 85%. Other than that, it's a pleasant voice with a realistic breathing algorithm. I notice that it doesn't breathe when you perform a continuous read but it does if you're using arrow keys to move line by line. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/2/2014 7:06 AM, Daniel McGee wrote: Which voice do you use, then if you don’t like Alex. On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:01, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: In what way don't you like him? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 10:31, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote
Re: Alex on IOS 8
What, in the name of sanity, has this thread now got to do with Alex? Nothing. Either Alex will be on the iPhone 5 or not. Yet another example of where a thread turns in to something that has questionable place as an e-mail thread. Better for live chat instead. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: I kind of like her, I think I may try her over Daniel, sense I kind of like his voice, but at the same time, he sounds a little too serious. On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: Do you like Karen? I am using her temporarily. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, I know for me, Alex will be a wonderful improvement compared to Samantha. I have respect, for those who like Samantha but she really gives me a head ake when I tried to listen to her. lol On 23 Jun 2014, at 16:18, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well let's wait it out I guess. It's probably true but probably rumour as well. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 23/06/2014 16:09, Stephen Toth wrote: I know that Alex will only work on 64-bit devices. This means the iPhone 5S and iPad Air, and iPad Mini, 2nd generation. Alex is 64-bit because OS X is 64-bit. However, we have had Alex running on 867 MHz G4s with 512 MB of RAM, ATA 5, and a system bus of 133 MHz. Why can't we have it on our iPhone 4S and iPod 5th gen devices as well? We've seen Alex run on 32-bit MacBook Pros with Core Duos in them, and I still have these old vintage machines that I am talking about today. I just don't get it. More marketing...Hi, I'm pretty excited about having Alex speaking under ios 8. Will he work on the iPad 3rd generation as well as the latest iPad mini? Thanks Chris -- Chris G jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Email: jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101 Fax: 888-766-7985 Direct: (716) 965-5717 web: www.mysticaccess.com twitter: JediKent -- Chris G jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Email: jedi...@mysticaccesspodcast.com javascript: Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101 Fax: 888-766-7985 Direct: (716) 965-5717 web: www.mysticaccess.com twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: does any one know if whats app is on the i pad minnni? can any one suggust a app that wil allow me to talk to my cousins?that is free and accesssible.I am running ios 702 on a i pad minni first ge
Hello, You might try the free version of the Magicjack app. It's a bit clunky but I've used it on my iPod Touch successfully on my WIFI at home. It's only works in the U.S. and Canada. HTH, Dan -- From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 9:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: does any one know if whats app is on the i pad minnni? can any one suggust a app that wil allow me to talk to my cousins?that is free and accesssible.I am running ios 702 on a i pad minni first generation. No, wasapp only available for phone only On 01/07/2014, adrian adrianle...@rocketmail.com wrote: ```Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: does any one know if whats app is on the i pad minnni? can any one suggust a app that wil allow me to talk to my cousins?that is free and accesssible.I am running ios 702 on a i pad minni first ge
Actually, MagicJack works anywhere in the world. That said, it will only call US and Canadian numbers for free. That said, MagicJack is VOIP, not text messaging. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2014, at 5:21, Dan Rathburn rathburnda...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, You might try the free version of the Magicjack app. It's a bit clunky but I've used it on my iPod Touch successfully on my WIFI at home. It's only works in the U.S. and Canada. HTH, Dan -- From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 9:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: does any one know if whats app is on the i pad minnni? can any one suggust a app that wil allow me to talk to my cousins?that is free and accesssible.I am running ios 702 on a i pad minni first generation. No, wasapp only available for phone only On 01/07/2014, adrian adrianle...@rocketmail.com wrote: ```Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since 2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
question about Mac book Air
Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
Its been acceptable on here for a long time and I don't see any reason to get people bent out of shape about it now. KDM On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
I recently bought a MacBook air for just this purpose being able to run Windows infusion. I bought the model 13 inch 250 6K hard drive actually a flash drive, 8 gig ram, and the upgraded I seven processor. This is what was suggested for me. It's a muscle machine and you'll love it. Sent from my IPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
I've never seen Cara say anything and she posts about looktel and other software. Let's just move on. KDM On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since 2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
Hi, Either the 11 or 13 inch will be perfect for what you need. Really, the only gain from the 13 is some extra batter life and much more weight to carry around, I'd go for the 11 personally, unless the 13 has something you specifically need. It would be very highly advisable to upgrade your RAM, in terms of performance. Unless you don't use it very much, and don't mind using external storage, I would also upgrade the SSD. It is not that important to upgrade the processor, though doing so will get you some extra speed. The Apple wireless keyboard is an alternative, but it doesn't have a power button so you'll always need to use the built in keyboard for that. It is the same, standard, Apple keyboard you always get now, same size keys, no numpad etc Must admit, I don't use my VM as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it runs faster than on any Windows machine Cheers Dave On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:54, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
The three things you mention may help with performance a bit, but are by no means necessary, that should work fine. Original message: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
Hi, I agree with David's comments below. I would absolutely upgrade the RAM. The SSD upgrade depends solely on your use case. Can you split both the Mac and PC data in that size? If not, upgrade. I'm not sure what the value added is for the Apple BT keyboard. It's about the same size as the Air keyboard, minor size differences between the 11, 13 and BT. But for me, they all feel the same. I do concur that any Air will do you well. Best, --k On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Either the 11 or 13 inch will be perfect for what you need. Really, the only gain from the 13 is some extra batter life and much more weight to carry around, I'd go for the 11 personally, unless the 13 has something you specifically need. It would be very highly advisable to upgrade your RAM, in terms of performance. Unless you don't use it very much, and don't mind using external storage, I would also upgrade the SSD. It is not that important to upgrade the processor, though doing so will get you some extra speed. The Apple wireless keyboard is an alternative, but it doesn't have a power button so you'll always need to use the built in keyboard for that. It is the same, standard, Apple keyboard you always get now, same size keys, no numpad etc Must admit, I don't use my VM as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it runs faster than on any Windows machine Cheers Dave On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:54, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
I'd definitely go for 8gb of ram if you plan on running Windows a lot, but my 4gb MBA performs well enough; it'd just be nice to have the extra. The processor speed is not as important, in my non-professional opinion, and the storage depends on how much you'll put on the drive. Windows itself takes up about 20gb, between the operating system and room for any applications you'll want to install, though of course even that will vary from person to person. The 13-inch has larger function keys across the top, the arrow keys are larger, and it includes an SD card slot for extra storage. Aside from that and the weight/battery someone else mentioned, the two are identical in terms of feel, ports, and so on. Remember that it is likely that Apple will bring out a new line of Airs in a few months, so if you can, maybe wait for that. You can then get a new one, or a current one at a lower price, assuming Apple sticks to its recent patterns. On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Either the 11 or 13 inch will be perfect for what you need. Really, the only gain from the 13 is some extra batter life and much more weight to carry around, I'd go for the 11 personally, unless the 13 has something you specifically need. It would be very highly advisable to upgrade your RAM, in terms of performance. Unless you don't use it very much, and don't mind using external storage, I would also upgrade the SSD. It is not that important to upgrade the processor, though doing so will get you some extra speed. The Apple wireless keyboard is an alternative, but it doesn't have a power button so you'll always need to use the built in keyboard for that. It is the same, standard, Apple keyboard you always get now, same size keys, no numpad etc Must admit, I don't use my VM as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it runs faster than on any Windows machine Cheers Dave On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:54, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
In an Apple store two years ago, we measured the Apple Bluetooth keyboard and found it to be the exact same size as the MacBook Air 11 keyboard. We then compared it against the other MacBook computers, and found it is the exact same keyboard, even on the MacBook Pro 17. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2014, at 9:19, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, I agree with David's comments below. I would absolutely upgrade the RAM. The SSD upgrade depends solely on your use case. Can you split both the Mac and PC data in that size? If not, upgrade. I'm not sure what the value added is for the Apple BT keyboard. It's about the same size as the Air keyboard, minor size differences between the 11, 13 and BT. But for me, they all feel the same. I do concur that any Air will do you well. Best, --k On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Either the 11 or 13 inch will be perfect for what you need. Really, the only gain from the 13 is some extra batter life and much more weight to carry around, I'd go for the 11 personally, unless the 13 has something you specifically need. It would be very highly advisable to upgrade your RAM, in terms of performance. Unless you don't use it very much, and don't mind using external storage, I would also upgrade the SSD. It is not that important to upgrade the processor, though doing so will get you some extra speed. The Apple wireless keyboard is an alternative, but it doesn't have a power button so you'll always need to use the built in keyboard for that. It is the same, standard, Apple keyboard you always get now, same size keys, no numpad etc Must admit, I don't use my VM as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it runs faster than on any Windows machine Cheers Dave On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:54, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
I never knew their was a 17 inch MacBook Pro. Sent from my iPad On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:08 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: In an Apple store two years ago, we measured the Apple Bluetooth keyboard and found it to be the exact same size as the MacBook Air 11 keyboard. We then compared it against the other MacBook computers, and found it is the exact same keyboard, even on the MacBook Pro 17. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2014, at 9:19, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, I agree with David's comments below. I would absolutely upgrade the RAM. The SSD upgrade depends solely on your use case. Can you split both the Mac and PC data in that size? If not, upgrade. I'm not sure what the value added is for the Apple BT keyboard. It's about the same size as the Air keyboard, minor size differences between the 11, 13 and BT. But for me, they all feel the same. I do concur that any Air will do you well. Best, --k On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Either the 11 or 13 inch will be perfect for what you need. Really, the only gain from the 13 is some extra batter life and much more weight to carry around, I'd go for the 11 personally, unless the 13 has something you specifically need. It would be very highly advisable to upgrade your RAM, in terms of performance. Unless you don't use it very much, and don't mind using external storage, I would also upgrade the SSD. It is not that important to upgrade the processor, though doing so will get you some extra speed. The Apple wireless keyboard is an alternative, but it doesn't have a power button so you'll always need to use the built in keyboard for that. It is the same, standard, Apple keyboard you always get now, same size keys, no numpad etc Must admit, I don't use my VM as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it runs faster than on any Windows machine Cheers Dave On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:54, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
Hello, I have a Mac Air 2013, with 8 GB RAM, an Intel 7, and 512 gb drive. I'm running Win 8.1 in bootcamp. When partitioning the hard drive in bootcamp, it ended up with 94 on the Windows side. Here is a list of items installed to give one an idea of the space used. It includes JAWS 15, Kurzweil 12, OpenBook, Duxbury, Office 2010, Dropbox, One Drive, Skype, and my printer software. Currently, I have a total of 49 GB left on the drive partition. I just wanted to give one an idea of space used, so if one wants to add more to the partition that will need to be done when setting up bootcamp. HTH. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'd definitely go for 8gb of ram if you plan on running Windows a lot, but my 4gb MBA performs well enough; it'd just be nice to have the extra. The processor speed is not as important, in my non-professional opinion, and the storage depends on how much you'll put on the drive. Windows itself takes up about 20gb, between the operating system and room for any applications you'll want to install, though of course even that will vary from person to person. The 13-inch has larger function keys across the top, the arrow keys are larger, and it includes an SD card slot for extra storage. Aside from that and the weight/battery someone else mentioned, the two are identical in terms of feel, ports, and so on. Remember that it is likely that Apple will bring out a new line of Airs in a few months, so if you can, maybe wait for that. You can then get a new one, or a current one at a lower price, assuming Apple sticks to its recent patterns. On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Either the 11 or 13 inch will be perfect for what you need. Really, the only gain from the 13 is some extra batter life and much more weight to carry around, I'd go for the 11 personally, unless the 13 has something you specifically need. It would be very highly advisable to upgrade your RAM, in terms of performance. Unless you don't use it very much, and don't mind using external storage, I would also upgrade the SSD. It is not that important to upgrade the processor, though doing so will get you some extra speed. The Apple wireless keyboard is an alternative, but it doesn't have a power button so you'll always need to use the built in keyboard for that. It is the same, standard, Apple keyboard you always get now, same size keys, no numpad etc Must admit, I don't use my VM as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it runs faster than on any Windows machine Cheers Dave On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:54, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: question about Mac book Air
I may be miss remembering, but I believe the largest one was 17 inches. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2014, at 10:10, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew their was a 17 inch MacBook Pro. Sent from my iPad On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:08 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: In an Apple store two years ago, we measured the Apple Bluetooth keyboard and found it to be the exact same size as the MacBook Air 11 keyboard. We then compared it against the other MacBook computers, and found it is the exact same keyboard, even on the MacBook Pro 17. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2014, at 9:19, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, I agree with David's comments below. I would absolutely upgrade the RAM. The SSD upgrade depends solely on your use case. Can you split both the Mac and PC data in that size? If not, upgrade. I'm not sure what the value added is for the Apple BT keyboard. It's about the same size as the Air keyboard, minor size differences between the 11, 13 and BT. But for me, they all feel the same. I do concur that any Air will do you well. Best, --k On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Either the 11 or 13 inch will be perfect for what you need. Really, the only gain from the 13 is some extra batter life and much more weight to carry around, I'd go for the 11 personally, unless the 13 has something you specifically need. It would be very highly advisable to upgrade your RAM, in terms of performance. Unless you don't use it very much, and don't mind using external storage, I would also upgrade the SSD. It is not that important to upgrade the processor, though doing so will get you some extra speed. The Apple wireless keyboard is an alternative, but it doesn't have a power button so you'll always need to use the built in keyboard for that. It is the same, standard, Apple keyboard you always get now, same size keys, no numpad etc Must admit, I don't use my VM as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it runs faster than on any Windows machine Cheers Dave On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:54, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: question about Mac book Air
Hi, Yes David, I'd say that you're remembering correct. The MacBook Pro 17 was the largest laptop Apple produced and they stopped it a number of years ago. Nice powerful machine but a beast to carry. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:04 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I may be miss remembering, but I believe the largest one was 17 inches. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2014, at 10:10, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew their was a 17 inch MacBook Pro. Sent from my iPad On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:08 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: In an Apple store two years ago, we measured the Apple Bluetooth keyboard and found it to be the exact same size as the MacBook Air 11 keyboard. We then compared it against the other MacBook computers, and found it is the exact same keyboard, even on the MacBook Pro 17. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2014, at 9:19, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, I agree with David's comments below. I would absolutely upgrade the RAM. The SSD upgrade depends solely on your use case. Can you split both the Mac and PC data in that size? If not, upgrade. I'm not sure what the value added is for the Apple BT keyboard. It's about the same size as the Air keyboard, minor size differences between the 11, 13 and BT. But for me, they all feel the same. I do concur that any Air will do you well. Best, --k On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Either the 11 or 13 inch will be perfect for what you need. Really, the only gain from the 13 is some extra batter life and much more weight to carry around, I'd go for the 11 personally, unless the 13 has something you specifically need. It would be very highly advisable to upgrade your RAM, in terms of performance. Unless you don't use it very much, and don't mind using external storage, I would also upgrade the SSD. It is not that important to upgrade the processor, though doing so will get you some extra speed. The Apple wireless keyboard is an alternative, but it doesn't have a power button so you'll always need to use the built in keyboard for that. It is the same, standard, Apple keyboard you always get now, same size keys, no numpad etc Must admit, I don't use my VM as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it runs faster than on any Windows machine Cheers Dave On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:54, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For
Moderator Note -was- Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
HI All, thanks to everyone for your thoughtful posts / responses to this thread. Kayaker has been with us for a while now and yes, he is in the process of becoming a list moderator. It is actually down to my being very busy and Google's unpredictable strange behaviors that he is not a list mod already. So yes, what Kayaker is saying is essentially true. iOS posts are welcome here but if they get past a point where they are not only exclusively iOS but then also go off-topic or meander, then yes, they will probably find a better home on VIPhone where the focus is specific to iOS devices. So the take-away from this is that iOS posts are in fact welcome here but since the list focus is Mac, it's best to kind of gradually move them over to VIPhone when possible. Having said this, I certainly do want members to feel welcome here, especially those who have been here a while, as you have Kawal. So I am inclined to have a bit of latitude in regard to how strict we are on Mac vs iOS topics. Kayaker has the right idea though. Eventually it would be nice to have MacVisionaries be for Mac and VIPhone be for iOS. Naturally there will always be a bit of overlap which is fine and we have been fortunate to pretty much always keep a good balance here. So Kawal, don't go. :) You are welcome here. :) If anyone has any further thoughts on this sort of list management then please do feel free to email me privately. caraqu...@caraquinn.com Thanks for reading and do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be!... Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since 2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Mod note -was- Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
HI Kevin, You're right but also remember that LookTel Money Reader also has a Mac equivalent. -But yes, let us definitely move along now and continue our usual excellent quality of discussion here. :) Thanks again to you all for your contributions! You rock! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: I've never seen Cara say anything and she posts about looktel and other software. Let's just move on. KDM On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since 2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are
question to those, like me, in the developer membership
Hi all, Can anyone who is currently developing for IOS contact me off list? I have a question about x-code 6 beta and swift using playground with voice over. Cheers, Yuma Antoine Decaux Light has no value without darkness Mob: +642102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How To Run Windows Programs On Mac For Free With Wine (OS X Mavericks) [2014]
Dear List, Have you ever heard of this? if so, is it Voice Over friendly? There is one windows program I would love to run on my Mac, it is Money Talks checkbook. Check out this video on YouTube: How To Run Windows Programs On Mac For Free With Wine (OS X Mavericks) [2014] http://youtu.be/DkS8i_blVCA Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How To Run Windows Programs On Mac For Free With Wine (OS X Mavericks) [2014]
So far as I understand it, there is only one way to accessibly run windows programs on a Mac, and that is with VMware fusion. No other way works so far as I know unless you want to do it via Bootcamp. Now, as for setting that up accessibly, I believe that one member of this list did in fact detail how to do this and it does work: at least, according to the member. However, I am sorry to say I don't remember who it was. Perhaps that individual might post their instructions again for your benefit and the benefit of any who might be interested? Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote: Dear List, Have you ever heard of this? if so, is it Voice Over friendly? There is one windows program I would love to run on my Mac, it is Money Talks checkbook. Check out this video on YouTube: How To Run Windows Programs On Mac For Free With Wine (OS X Mavericks) [2014] http://youtu.be/DkS8i_blVCA Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
I'm sorry if this strays a bit, but can someone send me a mail, off list maybe, on how to subscribe to viphone? is it viphone-subscr...@googlegroups.com or something? I'm just giving what I know of lists, but I don't know the domain its hosted at, or even if I'm already subscribed but the list isn't active, LOL Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: HI All, thanks to everyone for your thoughtful posts / responses to this thread. Kayaker has been with us for a while now and yes, he is in the process of becoming a list moderator. It is actually down to my being very busy and Google's unpredictable strange behaviors that he is not a list mod already. So yes, what Kayaker is saying is essentially true. iOS posts are welcome here but if they get past a point where they are not only exclusively iOS but then also go off-topic or meander, then yes, they will probably find a better home on VIPhone where the focus is specific to iOS devices. So the take-away from this is that iOS posts are in fact welcome here but since the list focus is Mac, it's best to kind of gradually move them over to VIPhone when possible. Having said this, I certainly do want members to feel welcome here, especially those who have been here a while, as you have Kawal. So I am inclined to have a bit of latitude in regard to how strict we are on Mac vs iOS topics. Kayaker has the right idea though. Eventually it would be nice to have MacVisionaries be for Mac and VIPhone be for iOS. Naturally there will always be a bit of overlap which is fine and we have been fortunate to pretty much always keep a good balance here. So Kawal, don't go. :) You are welcome here. :) If anyone has any further thoughts on this sort of list management then please do feel free to email me privately. caraqu...@caraquinn.com Thanks for reading and do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be!... Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since 2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: How To Run Windows Programs On Mac For Free With Wine (OS X Mavericks) [2014]
Well, in theory, you could use NVDA with wine to access other wine apps, but really I'm not sure if it works. I'd just stick with a VM, there's nothing that bad with it either. Oh and one cool thing is, that it integrates with your open-in menu when you go to open a file in a different app. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: So far as I understand it, there is only one way to accessibly run windows programs on a Mac, and that is with VMware fusion. No other way works so far as I know unless you want to do it via Bootcamp. Now, as for setting that up accessibly, I believe that one member of this list did in fact detail how to do this and it does work: at least, according to the member. However, I am sorry to say I don't remember who it was. Perhaps that individual might post their instructions again for your benefit and the benefit of any who might be interested? Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote: Dear List, Have you ever heard of this? if so, is it Voice Over friendly? There is one windows program I would love to run on my Mac, it is Money Talks checkbook. Check out this video on YouTube: How To Run Windows Programs On Mac For Free With Wine (OS X Mavericks) [2014] http://youtu.be/DkS8i_blVCA Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: does any one know if whats app is on the i pad minnni? can any one suggust a app that wil allow me to talk to my cousins?that is free and accesssible.I am running ios 702 on a i pad minni first ge
Mike. Is this voice or video or can you chat using a braille display? Quote of the nanosecond . . . I have a twin brother; he's identical, but I'm not. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 7/1/2014 8:36 PM, Mike wrote: If they all have Google accounts you could use the Google Hangouts App. I've been using it all day and it works really well. Sent from my iPad On Jul 1, 2014, at 19:12, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: No, wasapp only available for phone only On 01/07/2014, adrian adrianle...@rocketmail.com wrote: ```Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Adding rules for mail.
Hello. Please can someone tell me how I can add a rule so that I can subscribe to the VIPHONE list and the mail can go to a specific folder as I have never been able to do that successfully. I know I'd have to do it on the web because I have Icloud. Thank you for your help. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adding rules for mail.
Once you log into iCloud on the web, hit the mail button. After a few seconds, you'll be somewhere in the Mail frame, possibly one level too deep. Stop interacting until you're at the top level of the frame (easiest to just stop interacting with the frame and then interact with it). Find and activate the Rules button, then the Rules tab, then the add a rule button. The trick is to stop interacting with the Mail frame, then interact again, if you hit a button but nothing seems to happen - for whatever reason, this causes VO's focus to see the updated frame. Once you add your rule, using the buttons and edit boxes (all of which are labeled and clear) hit the done button, then find and hit the next done button, and you're all set. It sounds harder than it is, believe me, and maybe someone else knows an easier way. Either way, if you get stuck, email the list and we can try to work through it in more detail. On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. Please can someone tell me how I can add a rule so that I can subscribe to the VIPHONE list and the mail can go to a specific folder as I have never been able to do that successfully. I know I'd have to do it on the web because I have Icloud. Thank you for your help. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adding rules for mail.
Thanks Alex. I'll get back to you or anyone if I need help. On 3 Jul 2014, at 03:52 am, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Once you log into iCloud on the web, hit the mail button. After a few seconds, you'll be somewhere in the Mail frame, possibly one level too deep. Stop interacting until you're at the top level of the frame (easiest to just stop interacting with the frame and then interact with it). Find and activate the Rules button, then the Rules tab, then the add a rule button. The trick is to stop interacting with the Mail frame, then interact again, if you hit a button but nothing seems to happen - for whatever reason, this causes VO's focus to see the updated frame. Once you add your rule, using the buttons and edit boxes (all of which are labeled and clear) hit the done button, then find and hit the next done button, and you're all set. It sounds harder than it is, believe me, and maybe someone else knows an easier way. Either way, if you get stuck, email the list and we can try to work through it in more detail. On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. Please can someone tell me how I can add a rule so that I can subscribe to the VIPHONE list and the mail can go to a specific folder as I have never been able to do that successfully. I know I'd have to do it on the web because I have Icloud. Thank you for your help. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about Mac book Air
Juliet, Always a good idea to buy as much storage processing power as possible. Although, I admit that future development of the cloud may change the need for on-board storage capacity. But, upgraded RAM processors may have an effect on your Mac's ability to keep up with OSX releases down the road. I.E. you may be able to keep up with future operating system upgrades just that little bit longer for a little more investment now. Whatever you decide, I wish you luck happiness with your new Mac. CJ On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a Mac book Air 13-inch model with 256 GB haed drive. I am planning to run windows via VMware fusion. Would it be necessary in this case to do any or all of the following: 1. Upgrade the hard drive to 512 GB? 2. Upgrade the RAM from 4 GB to 8 GB? 3. Upgrade the processor from 1.4 to 1.7 GHZ? I also have one more question. Is the Apple wireless keyboard that we use with iOS devices the same one that Apple sells as a full-sized alternative to using the laptop keyboard on the Mac Book? Thanks in advance for any help with this. Juliette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iCloud and online storage
A message that was just posted prompts this question. It was not quite in line with that post so started a new one. With so much attention to using online storage, such as Dropbox, iCloud and so on, there is no doubt there are advantages to doing this especially if one's offline storage is limited. But the downside? What are the inherent risks in particular if one is not using offline storage, say for backups? Seems risky to rely on outside resources. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Most of us go to our grave with our music still inside of us. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Anyone got a iPhone 4S or above for sale?
Hello, if anyone has an iPhone 4s or above for sale, please contact me off list. My info is below, thanks. Kliphton ~iMessage,EmailFaceTime-Audio~ mailto:m.kliph...@gmail.com m.kliph...@gmail.com ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquareSkype~ kliphton72 ~Text only~ 727-266-5283 Personal blog-read at your own risk! http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iCloud and online storage
I can't speak for iCloud Drive, as that feature is not out yet. Using Dropbox as an example, though, I think most people see it as a positive. Yes, it stores your data in the cloud. That is not to say that it is only accessible when you are online, though; Dropbox copies everything to your local hard drive (or gives you the option to do so on iOS) so even if you have no internet access you can still get to your files and folders. The down side is definitely security; the government can see your files, depending on the service you use, or someone who manages to hack into your account can do serious damage. That is why I'm excited for iCloud Drive; enable two-factor authentication, and it is suddenly almost impossible for anyone to access your files. These are just my thoughts, and I'm not a security expert or anything. Personally, though, I'm fine with putting my essential files (writing projects, programming projects, resumes, and other essentials) in Dropbox, thus ensuring they are always backed up no matter what happens to my local machines. Of course, services like Crashplan or Carbonite can do similar things, but I prefer to just store the essentials in the cloud; it costs less and it easier to manage when a restore is necessary. On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: A message that was just posted prompts this question. It was not quite in line with that post so started a new one. With so much attention to using online storage, such as Dropbox, iCloud and so on, there is no doubt there are advantages to doing this especially if one's offline storage is limited. But the downside? What are the inherent risks in particular if one is not using offline storage, say for backups? Seems risky to rely on outside resources. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Most of us go to our grave with our music still inside of us. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features – MacStories
I would actually prefer to have more bug fixes in iOS 8 rather than new features. If we got no new features but all the iOS 7 bugs were fixed I'd be so happy. The new features sound awesome, but I just hope bug fixes get proper priority. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iCloud and online storage
Hi, Personally, I haven't seen much downside to cloud storage services. As Alex mentioned, some folks worry about snooping by governments and such when you store things in the cloud, but, all the power to them if they want to read my documents, learn about VoiceOver and other accessibility features along with any other mundane stuff I store out there. Computers get stolen, memory sticks get lost, all sorts of things that we think are more secure than the cloud aren't necessarily so. I love my Google Drive. Like DropBox, I can be off-line, then as soon as I'm back on-line, everything added to or modified on my Google Drive is automatically synced up to the Cloud and I feel confident that I can access it wherever and whenever I need to. Looking forward to when iCloud Drive comes into the picture. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I can't speak for iCloud Drive, as that feature is not out yet. Using Dropbox as an example, though, I think most people see it as a positive. Yes, it stores your data in the cloud. That is not to say that it is only accessible when you are online, though; Dropbox copies everything to your local hard drive (or gives you the option to do so on iOS) so even if you have no internet access you can still get to your files and folders. The down side is definitely security; the government can see your files, depending on the service you use, or someone who manages to hack into your account can do serious damage. That is why I'm excited for iCloud Drive; enable two-factor authentication, and it is suddenly almost impossible for anyone to access your files. These are just my thoughts, and I'm not a security expert or anything. Personally, though, I'm fine with putting my essential files (writing projects, programming projects, resumes, and other essentials) in Dropbox, thus ensuring they are always backed up no matter what happens to my local machines. Of course, services like Crashplan or Carbonite can do similar things, but I prefer to just store the essentials in the cloud; it costs less and it easier to manage when a restore is necessary. On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: A message that was just posted prompts this question. It was not quite in line with that post so started a new one. With so much attention to using online storage, such as Dropbox, iCloud and so on, there is no doubt there are advantages to doing this especially if one's offline storage is limited. But the downside? What are the inherent risks in particular if one is not using offline storage, say for backups? Seems risky to rely on outside resources. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Most of us go to our grave with our music still inside of us. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adding rules for mail.
Hi, Performing this on the web is a good idea for sure, but only necessary if you're accessing the messages from multiple devices. Know that if you create a mailbox or folder on your Mac within the iCloud mail account, this mailbox/folder will automatically be accessible from all your other devices using that iCloud account. So, a sneaky thing you can do if you're using a desktop Mac, is just to leave your Mail open and as messages come in, they'll be put into the places you want them to go using just rules on the Mac. For security, I'd make sure your Mac requires a password to come out of sleep/screen saver. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Thanks Alex. I'll get back to you or anyone if I need help. On 3 Jul 2014, at 03:52 am, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Once you log into iCloud on the web, hit the mail button. After a few seconds, you'll be somewhere in the Mail frame, possibly one level too deep. Stop interacting until you're at the top level of the frame (easiest to just stop interacting with the frame and then interact with it). Find and activate the Rules button, then the Rules tab, then the add a rule button. The trick is to stop interacting with the Mail frame, then interact again, if you hit a button but nothing seems to happen - for whatever reason, this causes VO's focus to see the updated frame. Once you add your rule, using the buttons and edit boxes (all of which are labeled and clear) hit the done button, then find and hit the next done button, and you're all set. It sounds harder than it is, believe me, and maybe someone else knows an easier way. Either way, if you get stuck, email the list and we can try to work through it in more detail. On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. Please can someone tell me how I can add a rule so that I can subscribe to the VIPHONE list and the mail can go to a specific folder as I have never been able to do that successfully. I know I'd have to do it on the web because I have Icloud. Thank you for your help. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
