Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
The BrailleNote feels a bit more durable to me but that is hard to explain further. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Debbie April Yuille debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Would you say that the celes on the edge are similar to those on the Braille Note Apex? Debbie Sent from my PC From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 6:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality The Braille cells are of good quality. The unit is durable enough, although I tend to be a bit more careful with my Braile Edge than I was my BrailleNote, not that I was unnecessarily rough with that device. Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Accessing SiriusXM with Radium On The Mac.
Hi: The subject line says it all. I logged into sirius XM via radium, however, I'm unable to access the stations. How do I do it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
Hi Chris, I find the braille quality on the Edge to be very good. It's not as sharp as some, but sharp enough, I would say. As for durability, well it's as durable as any device made out of plastic is going to be. :) I don't have the Executive Products case, and I do find that I'm careful with it when carrying it around. One thing I'd mention, is check it out before you buy if you can. One thing I find awkward is the placement of the function keys. To use them, I sort of have to scrunch my hand in a way that's kind of awkward. You do get used to it, but that would be one of my primary criticisms of the unit. Best, Donna On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
Ah, I see. I have a braille note. So I’m familiar with how that feels. I also have a Brailliant display which feels exactly like the display on the Apex. So I take it from what you said that the braille that humanware uses is more durable than hims. Debbie Sent from my PC From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 11:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality The BrailleNote feels a bit more durable to me but that is hard to explain further. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Debbie April Yuille debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au mailto:debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Would you say that the celes on the edge are similar to those on the Braille Note Apex? Debbie Sent from my PC From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 6:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality The Braille cells are of good quality. The unit is durable enough, although I tend to be a bit more careful with my Braile Edge than I was my BrailleNote, not that I was unnecessarily rough with that device. Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Duplicating sessions in Audio Hijack?
Hi, To duplicate a session, use the up or down arrow key to locate the session and simply press command+d. This option is listed in the Audio Hijack edit menu. Robert Carter On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Robert Cole mr.robertc...@icloud.com wrote: Just copy and paste the session. Thanks, Rob Sent from my MacBook On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote: Hello all, I have a session in Audio Hijack 3, that I want to duplicate but don't necessarily want to create again. Is there a way to do this, and then add the additional setting and then save it? THanks God bless. :) Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Incredibly important question about application accessibility
Cheree Heppe here: Write them up on Yelp. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 18:23, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, They do have phone support, but I've been dealing with those idiots for months upon months now. they told me they have mac computers, but ab, suh, lootly! refuse to turn on voiceover. They keep saying, it'll crash our machines! I mean, really? How paranoid can they be! When I asked them how to know, they tell me, we dunno. Buy it and then find out. I almost want to sit here and puke at their lack of professionalism. On Windows at least, they have a darn good product, but their support is absolutely horrible! at best. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Incredibly important question about application accessibility Hey Chris, Dpes PG music have a tech support area? You could probably get your answers over the phone. Suppose they bring up the product on a mac, turn VO on and navigate around to see whether anything is labeled. You could tell them what tasks you wanted to perform and you could determine relatively quickly whether it was doable with VO, independent of the mouse. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
hello there I forgot to tell you something that you may want to consider when deciding on your braille display. The braille edge 40 can be updated using your Mac, and I don't know what other displays that is true of. This is a big deal. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there There are some workarounds for that however. I just go the extra step of using the function alt key and going to the menu. I have found that faster than scrunching up my hand. That is the workaround that I use. It works pretty well, and I've got very fast doing it Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Chris, I find the braille quality on the Edge to be very good. It's not as sharp as some, but sharp enough, I would say. As for durability, well it's as durable as any device made out of plastic is going to be. :) I don't have the Executive Products case, and I do find that I'm careful with it when carrying it around. One thing I'd mention, is check it out before you buy if you can. One thing I find awkward is the placement of the function keys. To use them, I sort of have to scrunch my hand in a way that's kind of awkward. You do get used to it, but that would be one of my primary criticisms of the unit. Best, Donna On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
Hi, The cells on the brailledge are very round. The ones on the apex or brailliant displays are sharper, but not nearly as sharp as the ones on the alva bc6 series. The backdrop of the hims cells is the roughest I've touched, but despite that, the roundness of the dots makes it one of the most comfortable for me. If I could get a new display, the brailleedge would be a very tempting upgrade. I think I might still prefer the vareo ultra because of the multi-device support, but the brailleedge is nice. What you like in a braille display is completely subjectinve. What feels right to me may not feel right to you. If you can get some displays to hold before you buy, that would be your best bet. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Mar 23, 2015, at 11:52 PM, Debbie April Yuille debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Would you say that the celes on the edge are similar to those on the Braille Note Apex? Debbie Sent from my PC From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 6:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality The Braille cells are of good quality. The unit is durable enough, although I tend to be a bit more careful with my Braile Edge than I was my BrailleNote, not that I was unnecessarily rough with that device. Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Some Success with Calendar on the Mac.
Hello Tim. Step by step process as follows from memory. 1. Open the calendar. 2. Command N to bring up a new appointment. 3. Type, something like, Vets for guide dog (will not give her name), on 08 April at six p.m. 3. Press enter. 4. My new appointment is listed. So find the appointment, press Command E to edit. 5. Change desired information and add alert number 1. Choose one day before. Also here is where you can choose your travel time. When you get to that field on the I phone, recent locations are listed and its easy to choose. No such thing happens on the I phone. 6. Add second alert as there is a pop up button. As soon as I press that, there is no where to go. To the left there is the calendar table, to the right a vertical splitter. So can't do anything from then on and Voice Over kind of stops speaking so quit the process and do the rest using the I phone. Kawal. On 24 Mar 2015, at 01:20, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, Not sure why you got stuck there. At the moment, I’ve turned off my other calendars so that I only have one that I’m putting appointments into,. This also means that I can hide the Calendar list which is where you appear to have got stuck. Locations work fine for me and I’ve seen no reason to think that Calendar on the Mac is broken at all. I’d have to have an actual step by step commentary of your process to determine where the problems are arising for you. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 23, 2015, at 17:07, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote: Hello. Today, I set up an appointment on the Mac but had to edit some of the details using my I phone 6 Plus. I created the even in the way Tim explained on this list some time ago. But when i came to set up alert number two, it went to the toolbar and there was a calendar sources table and a vertical splitter to the right of that table. I could not get out of that table so I closed the calendar and had to edit the same event using my I phone. Also when I tried to put a location in as I had put the same location in using my I phone as the iPhone found the correct address, there was no such thing on the Mac. All in All, the calendar on the I phone is much easier to use. Perhaps the calendar on the Mac is broken somewhat? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
Hi there There are some workarounds for that however. I just go the extra step of using the function alt key and going to the menu. I have found that faster than scrunching up my hand. That is the workaround that I use. It works pretty well, and I've got very fast doing it Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Chris, I find the braille quality on the Edge to be very good. It's not as sharp as some, but sharp enough, I would say. As for durability, well it's as durable as any device made out of plastic is going to be. :) I don't have the Executive Products case, and I do find that I'm careful with it when carrying it around. One thing I'd mention, is check it out before you buy if you can. One thing I find awkward is the placement of the function keys. To use them, I sort of have to scrunch my hand in a way that's kind of awkward. You do get used to it, but that would be one of my primary criticisms of the unit. Best, Donna On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Incredibly important question about application accessibility
I might, but being they're not local to me, would that even be effective? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Cheree Heppe che...@dogsc4me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:25 AM Subject: Re: Incredibly important question about application accessibility Cheree Heppe here: Write them up on Yelp. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 18:23, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, They do have phone support, but I've been dealing with those idiots for months upon months now. they told me they have mac computers, but ab, suh, lootly! refuse to turn on voiceover. They keep saying, it'll crash our machines! I mean, really? How paranoid can they be! When I asked them how to know, they tell me, we dunno. Buy it and then find out. I almost want to sit here and puke at their lack of professionalism. On Windows at least, they have a darn good product, but their support is absolutely horrible! at best. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Incredibly important question about application accessibility Hey Chris, Dpes PG music have a tech support area? You could probably get your answers over the phone. Suppose they bring up the product on a mac, turn VO on and navigate around to see whether anything is labeled. You could tell them what tasks you wanted to perform and you could determine relatively quickly whether it was doable with VO, independent of the mouse. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Some Success with Calendar on the Mac.
I'm not having any problems entering all the information for calendar entries either. The problem I do have is with multiple calendars when I navigate through the events, some are not announced. I think I saw a post from someone else a while back confirming this kind of behavior. Nevertheless, it makes the calendar very suspect and not nearly as useful as it needs to be. I come from Outlook for Windows and have really transitioned completely to the Mac and am finding that it is quite lacking in some ways with regard to the calendar. Although it works well on the iPhone, it would be nice if it was a little more consistent and less quirky with VO on Mac OS. I think your problems with entering the appointments are likely resolvable if someone can figure out exactly where things are going wrong. On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, Not sure why you got stuck there. At the moment, I’ve turned off my other calendars so that I only have one that I’m putting appointments into,. This also means that I can hide the Calendar list which is where you appear to have got stuck. Locations work fine for me and I’ve seen no reason to think that Calendar on the Mac is broken at all. I’d have to have an actual step by step commentary of your process to determine where the problems are arising for you. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 23, 2015, at 17:07, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote: Hello. Today, I set up an appointment on the Mac but had to edit some of the details using my I phone 6 Plus. I created the even in the way Tim explained on this list some time ago. But when i came to set up alert number two, it went to the toolbar and there was a calendar sources table and a vertical splitter to the right of that table. I could not get out of that table so I closed the calendar and had to edit the same event using my I phone. Also when I tried to put a location in as I had put the same location in using my I phone as the iPhone found the correct address, there was no such thing on the Mac. All in All, the calendar on the I phone is much easier to use. Perhaps the calendar on the Mac is broken somewhat? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: updating adobe flash player on the Mac
They way I do it is as follows: download the latest flash player for mac by going to, www.get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Follow the steps there to download the latest flash player .dmg file. Once downloaded, close all programs and then open the .dmg and run the installer app. That’s it. The systems preferences adobe update installer is inaccessible and is only good for notifying that a new flash player is available. If you have system prefs set to auto update flash, then when that update flash dialog pops up, simply cancel out of it and follow the manual steps I outlined above. On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, I am stumped on this one. Can anybody tell me what is the best way to update flash player for the Mac using VoiceOver? Every time I try to run the installer, it just keeps focusing on the installer helper. If I click on this, it says this item was removed. Does this mean the installation is completed without VoiceOver giving me this message? I don’t think it is, because when I try to play content, nothing happens. If I press command q to quit, it says quit host, and brings up Safari with the message that Adobe Flash player can not be installed. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
updating adobe flash player on the Mac
Hello, I am stumped on this one. Can anybody tell me what is the best way to update flash player for the Mac using VoiceOver? Every time I try to run the installer, it just keeps focusing on the installer helper. If I click on this, it says this item was removed. Does this mean the installation is completed without VoiceOver giving me this message? I don’t think it is, because when I try to play content, nothing happens. If I press command q to quit, it says quit host, and brings up Safari with the message that Adobe Flash player can not be installed. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: updating adobe flash player on the Mac
Hi, You need to Interact with the Helper area. It will tell you what’s going on in there. There’ll be a “Finish” button if all went well, otherwise, there could be error messages related to the need to quit any Flash kinds of software. When clicking buttons in this area, use VO-shift-space for the simulated mouse-click. You may also need to use VO-cmd-f5 to ensure that the mouse is focused on the button. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 24, 2015, at 08:41, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, I am stumped on this one. Can anybody tell me what is the best way to update flash player for the Mac using VoiceOver? Every time I try to run the installer, it just keeps focusing on the installer helper. If I click on this, it says this item was removed. Does this mean the installation is completed without VoiceOver giving me this message? I don’t think it is, because when I try to play content, nothing happens. If I press command q to quit, it says quit host, and brings up Safari with the message that Adobe Flash player can not be installed. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A Newbie with Numbers
Hello, Thanks for your instructions. They worked well. Just to point out, I needed to access the insert menu and press the letter F to highlight the formula option. The dropdown list had the sum option and vo-space on it. The formula was added, but needed to vo-space once again to perform the action. Worked like a charm. Thanks again. Cheers, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:08 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: Hi Eileen, to sort the table from oldest to newest do the following on english keyboards press VO + | to jump to the table headders choose column choose the column you want to use for sorting open the context menue and choose ascending or descending I don't know of tables with unlabled cells but you can place a formular just by writing an equal sign. What happens then is that the formular editor opens and starts a formular line. Note! The cursor sometimes seems to be placed before the equal sign but it must sit behind it if you want to create a functioning formular. All the best Jürgen Am 24.03.2015 um 02:29 schrieb Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com: Hello All, I decided to bite the bullet and open Numbers on my Mac. I have some experience with Excel, but I know things must be done differently in Numbers. Here are my questions: 1. I want to sort the date column from oldest to newest. Can this be done in Numbers and what are the steps to do it? 2. I want to place a formula at the bottom of one of my columns. The columns just use numbers and the rows are not labeled with the coordinates. So, how is this accomplished? This is all new to me, as this is the first time I am using the program. Any tips and tricks to get these 2 items completed. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Sharing Web Page from iPhone
Hi all, I need to share a web page as it appears on my iPhone so I can review it on my computer. I have tried using the Share button in Safari, but it only shares the link to the page. As the page is dynamically built based on the WebSQL database, I need to capture the actual page and send it. Can this be done? If so, how? Tia, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Some Success with Calendar on the Mac.
Hi, I tested numerous times using various scenarios on my calendar on the Mac and did not experience anything like you’re mentioning. For me, this is how things went in general: • press cmd-n to create new event. • entered “Vet for Leader Dog Apr 10 at 2 pm” then press return. This automatically brings focus into the Info/Edit window for the new event. No need to locate it in the calendar. • VO-right to the Add Location item and put in an address. • activate the Alerts and Travel time button with VO-space. • modify anything that I wish modified, changing notification time etc. • close the Info/Edit event window and I’m back on the main page of the calendar. No issues at all for me. A couple of questions for your scenario: 1. Which view are you using? Day, Week, Month? I use Month view primarily. 2. QuickNav on or off? It’s off for me. 3. I’m guessing you have the Calendar list visible? Mine is hidden although visible or hidden didn’t make a difference. I don’t have multiple personal calendars but do have shared Google calendars, Birthdays and such all with their events mingled amongst my other self-entered calendar events with no issues. So, not sure where things are going amiss for you. Hmmm. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 24, 2015, at 17:22, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not having any problems entering all the information for calendar entries either. The problem I do have is with multiple calendars when I navigate through the events, some are not announced. I think I saw a post from someone else a while back confirming this kind of behavior. Nevertheless, it makes the calendar very suspect and not nearly as useful as it needs to be. I come from Outlook for Windows and have really transitioned completely to the Mac and am finding that it is quite lacking in some ways with regard to the calendar. Although it works well on the iPhone, it would be nice if it was a little more consistent and less quirky with VO on Mac OS. I think your problems with entering the appointments are likely resolvable if someone can figure out exactly where things are going wrong. On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, Not sure why you got stuck there. At the moment, I’ve turned off my other calendars so that I only have one that I’m putting appointments into,. This also means that I can hide the Calendar list which is where you appear to have got stuck. Locations work fine for me and I’ve seen no reason to think that Calendar on the Mac is broken at all. I’d have to have an actual step by step commentary of your process to determine where the problems are arising for you. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 23, 2015, at 17:07, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote: Hello. Today, I set up an appointment on the Mac but had to edit some of the details using my I phone 6 Plus. I created the even in the way Tim explained on this list some time ago. But when i came to set up alert number two, it went to the toolbar and there was a calendar sources table and a vertical splitter to the right of that table. I could not get out of that table so I closed the calendar and had to edit the same event using my I phone. Also when I tried to put a location in as I had put the same location in using my I phone as the iPhone found the correct address, there was no such thing on the Mac. All in All, the calendar on the I phone is much easier to use. Perhaps the calendar on the Mac is broken somewhat? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group
Strange problem on Safari
Hi All, hopefully someone can help me with this puzzling problem. The other day I wanted to share an article on Facebook. So I went to Menu-Safari - Share-Facebook. When I hit the Post button it posted ,but it posted from another persons account who I once helped set up a Facebook account from my mac. Is there a setting I can change to remedy this? I notice this does not happen when sharing from Twitter or Linked in. Also , when I share from the page using the Facebook icon on the bottom of the webpage it will go to my account . Thanks, Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Strange problem on Safari
Well ,it worked. You just made my day! It was more of an annoyance than a problem. Ben Constantini ben.n2...@verizon.net Sent from my Mac On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Ben Constantini ben.n2...@verizon.net wrote: I will try that and let you know if it works . Ben Constantini ben.n2...@verizon.net mailto:ben.n2...@verizon.net Sent from my Mac On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Open System Preferences, then Internet Accounts. Find Facebook in the Accounts table, and make sure it's set to your information. It might offer two accounts--I only have one, so can't test that--in which case you'll want to delete the other one, or be sure yours is default. On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:30 PM, N2KPV ben.n2...@verizon.net mailto:ben.n2...@verizon.net wrote: Hi All, hopefully someone can help me with this puzzling problem. The other day I wanted to share an article on Facebook. So I went to Menu-Safari - Share-Facebook. When I hit the Post button it posted ,but it posted from another persons account who I once helped set up a Facebook account from my mac. Is there a setting I can change to remedy this? I notice this does not happen when sharing from Twitter or Linked in. Also , when I share from the page using the Facebook icon on the bottom of the webpage it will go to my account . Thanks, Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Strange problem on Safari
Open System Preferences, then Internet Accounts. Find Facebook in the Accounts table, and make sure it's set to your information. It might offer two accounts--I only have one, so can't test that--in which case you'll want to delete the other one, or be sure yours is default. On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:30 PM, N2KPV ben.n2...@verizon.net wrote: Hi All, hopefully someone can help me with this puzzling problem. The other day I wanted to share an article on Facebook. So I went to Menu-Safari - Share-Facebook. When I hit the Post button it posted ,but it posted from another persons account who I once helped set up a Facebook account from my mac. Is there a setting I can change to remedy this? I notice this does not happen when sharing from Twitter or Linked in. Also , when I share from the page using the Facebook icon on the bottom of the webpage it will go to my account . Thanks, Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Strange problem on Safari
I will try that and let you know if it works . Ben Constantini ben.n2...@verizon.net Sent from my Mac On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Open System Preferences, then Internet Accounts. Find Facebook in the Accounts table, and make sure it's set to your information. It might offer two accounts--I only have one, so can't test that--in which case you'll want to delete the other one, or be sure yours is default. On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:30 PM, N2KPV ben.n2...@verizon.net mailto:ben.n2...@verizon.net wrote: Hi All, hopefully someone can help me with this puzzling problem. The other day I wanted to share an article on Facebook. So I went to Menu-Safari - Share-Facebook. When I hit the Post button it posted ,but it posted from another persons account who I once helped set up a Facebook account from my mac. Is there a setting I can change to remedy this? I notice this does not happen when sharing from Twitter or Linked in. Also , when I share from the page using the Facebook icon on the bottom of the webpage it will go to my account . Thanks, Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How to get information on formula error in Numbers?
Hi all, In a spreadsheet, I'm seeing formula error in some cells that have formulas. How do I see what the error is so I can correct it? Thanks. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
Gigi, What do you mean by the Function Alt key? If it's the one next to the space bar, that in no way would address the scrunching problem. :) Cheers, Donna On Mar 24, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there There are some workarounds for that however. I just go the extra step of using the function alt key and going to the menu. I have found that faster than scrunching up my hand. That is the workaround that I use. It works pretty well, and I've got very fast doing it Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Chris, I find the braille quality on the Edge to be very good. It's not as sharp as some, but sharp enough, I would say. As for durability, well it's as durable as any device made out of plastic is going to be. :) I don't have the Executive Products case, and I do find that I'm careful with it when carrying it around. One thing I'd mention, is check it out before you buy if you can. One thing I find awkward is the placement of the function keys. To use them, I sort of have to scrunch my hand in a way that's kind of awkward. You do get used to it, but that would be one of my primary criticisms of the unit. Best, Donna On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to get information on formula error in Numbers?
Hi, Not sure if there’s anything that will specifically say what the error is, but, I certainly could be wrong. I usually just press option-return on the cell displaying that error and look at the syntax and cell references. If you have a circular reference, that is, referring to the same cell that the formula is in, it will display that error for sure. There are likely other things like division by zero that may cause it as well, but, the circular reference is the only one I’ve seen first hand in testing. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 24, 2015, at 21:13, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, In a spreadsheet, I'm seeing formula error in some cells that have formulas. How do I see what the error is so I can correct it? Thanks. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
Hi, I find mine has really solid and good sharp dots, and have had it for 1.5 years. Maybe dot quality varies among devices, but I would recommend it very highly. Lisette ` On 24/03/2015, at 9:19 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Chris Be sure and get the executive case if you get the Braille Edge because it needs it. If you get the case, then I think it is as durable as any is. You have to be careful with all of them. Those plastic things are pretty delicate. The manual has improved. It does not have a dot firmless control on it, but I have found it to be adequate, although mine could use some work on that probably. But I think it's just my device. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: updating adobe flash player on the Mac
I would simply add that on occasions I find that I have to use virtual mouse click, that is shift VO space on buttons for the install to proceed rather than VO space. Also pressing the space-bar by itself or the enter key sometimes works. David Griffith On 03/2015 14:57, Phil Halton wrote: They way I do it is as follows: download the latest flash player for mac by going to, www.get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Follow the steps there to download the latest flash player .dmg file. Once downloaded, close all programs and then open the .dmg and run the installer app. That’s it. The systems preferences adobe update installer is inaccessible and is only good for notifying that a new flash player is available. If you have system prefs set to auto update flash, then when that update flash dialog pops up, simply cancel out of it and follow the manual steps I outlined above. On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, I am stumped on this one. Can anybody tell me what is the best way to update flash player for the Mac using VoiceOver? Every time I try to run the installer, it just keeps focusing on the installer helper. If I click on this, it says this item was removed. Does this mean the installation is completed without VoiceOver giving me this message? I don’t think it is, because when I try to play content, nothing happens. If I press command q to quit, it says quit host, and brings up Safari with the message that Adobe Flash player can not be installed. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Accessing SiriusXM with Radium On The Mac.
I logged into SiriusXM and it said loggin successful. Then, I went to type in a station from xm and it couldn't find any of the stations. What am I doing wrong? On 3/24/15, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote: Hello, go to the search field, and type in Siriusxm. You will then get the list of all the stations that you can listen to. God bless. :) Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 24, 2015, at 08:33, ernest mccullough ernest.mccullo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: The subject line says it all. I logged into sirius XM via radium, however, I'm unable to access the stations. How do I do it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: updating adobe flash player on the Mac
Just another note. I had a problem yesterday updating Adobe Flash Player . No matter what I did the download kept freezing at 25 per cent . After beating my head against the wall for a couple of days , I tried temporarily disabling my anti -virus program and it finally worked . I noticed you also have to close your Safari browser also. Just wanted to add my two cents in. Ben Constantini ben.n2...@verizon.net Sent from my Mac On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, I am stumped on this one. Can anybody tell me what is the best way to update flash player for the Mac using VoiceOver? Every time I try to run the installer, it just keeps focusing on the installer helper. If I click on this, it says this item was removed. Does this mean the installation is completed without VoiceOver giving me this message? I don’t think it is, because when I try to play content, nothing happens. If I press command q to quit, it says quit host, and brings up Safari with the message that Adobe Flash player can not be installed. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Accessing SiriusXM with Radium On The Mac.
Hello, go to the search field, and type in Siriusxm. You will then get the list of all the stations that you can listen to. God bless. :) Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 24, 2015, at 08:33, ernest mccullough ernest.mccullo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: The subject line says it all. I logged into sirius XM via radium, however, I'm unable to access the stations. How do I do it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: updating adobe flash player on the Mac
Hi, Two things to note here from my prospective. If your patient, and you have Flash set to update itself, it will actually do so. The problem is that it actually takes about 30 days to do so which may cause you grief if your browser is blocking the current Flash plugin. You can also use System Prefs to take you directly to the update page by going into the Flash System Pref, selecting the Advanced pane, interacting with the Scroll area, then pressing the “Check Now” button. If an update is available and you choose the “Update” button, you will be taken directly to the proper Adobe page to begin the update process. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 24, 2015, at 08:57, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: They way I do it is as follows: download the latest flash player for mac by going to, www.get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Follow the steps there to download the latest flash player .dmg file. Once downloaded, close all programs and then open the .dmg and run the installer app. That’s it. The systems preferences adobe update installer is inaccessible and is only good for notifying that a new flash player is available. If you have system prefs set to auto update flash, then when that update flash dialog pops up, simply cancel out of it and follow the manual steps I outlined above. On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, I am stumped on this one. Can anybody tell me what is the best way to update flash player for the Mac using VoiceOver? Every time I try to run the installer, it just keeps focusing on the installer helper. If I click on this, it says this item was removed. Does this mean the installation is completed without VoiceOver giving me this message? I don’t think it is, because when I try to play content, nothing happens. If I press command q to quit, it says quit host, and brings up Safari with the message that Adobe Flash player can not be installed. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Accessing SiriusXM with Radium On The Mac.
This is bizarre, now keep in mind I have SiriusXM Canada, but it still should work. Just try typing in SiriusXM, and see if you can access any stations. God bless. :) Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:58, ernest mccullough ernest.mccullo...@gmail.com wrote: I logged into SiriusXM and it said loggin successful. Then, I went to type in a station from xm and it couldn't find any of the stations. What am I doing wrong? On 3/24/15, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote: Hello, go to the search field, and type in Siriusxm. You will then get the list of all the stations that you can listen to. God bless. :) Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 24, 2015, at 08:33, ernest mccullough ernest.mccullo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: The subject line says it all. I logged into sirius XM via radium, however, I'm unable to access the stations. How do I do it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality
Would you say that the celes on the edge are similar to those on the Braille Note Apex? Debbie Sent from my PC From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 6:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality The Braille cells are of good quality. The unit is durable enough, although I tend to be a bit more careful with my Braile Edge than I was my BrailleNote, not that I was unnecessarily rough with that device. Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge. How is the quality or feel of the Braille dots? How durable is the unit, is it well constructed? Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A Newbie with Numbers
Hi Eileen, to sort the table from oldest to newest do the following on english keyboards press VO + | to jump to the table headders choose column choose the column you want to use for sorting open the context menue and choose ascending or descending I don't know of tables with unlabled cells but you can place a formular just by writing an equal sign. What happens then is that the formular editor opens and starts a formular line. Note! The cursor sometimes seems to be placed before the equal sign but it must sit behind it if you want to create a functioning formular. All the best Jürgen Am 24.03.2015 um 02:29 schrieb Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com: Hello All, I decided to bite the bullet and open Numbers on my Mac. I have some experience with Excel, but I know things must be done differently in Numbers. Here are my questions: 1. I want to sort the date column from oldest to newest. Can this be done in Numbers and what are the steps to do it? 2. I want to place a formula at the bottom of one of my columns. The columns just use numbers and the rows are not labeled with the coordinates. So, how is this accomplished? This is all new to me, as this is the first time I am using the program. Any tips and tricks to get these 2 items completed. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Eileen Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Accessing SiriusXM with Radium On The Mac.
I'll try it when I get home. Thanks and God bless. Ernest. On 3/24/15, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote: This is bizarre, now keep in mind I have SiriusXM Canada, but it still should work. Just try typing in SiriusXM, and see if you can access any stations. God bless. :) Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:58, ernest mccullough ernest.mccullo...@gmail.com wrote: I logged into SiriusXM and it said loggin successful. Then, I went to type in a station from xm and it couldn't find any of the stations. What am I doing wrong? On 3/24/15, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote: Hello, go to the search field, and type in Siriusxm. You will then get the list of all the stations that you can listen to. God bless. :) Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, Windows and IOS Trainer Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com On Mar 24, 2015, at 08:33, ernest mccullough ernest.mccullo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: The subject line says it all. I logged into sirius XM via radium, however, I'm unable to access the stations. How do I do it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
