Re: Happy Independence day USA!!!

[regina alvarado]

Um, Mac, just a bit political for this group don't you think? However, agree 
with you. Happy fourth to all,  and be kind to your fellow man and woman and 
creatures too!
Reggie and Lex

On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:20 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  American democracy is under siege from within, so celebrate this 4th while 
you can. (smiles)

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it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan

> On 7/4/2018 8:47 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
> Ahoy Listers!
> Happy Independence day USA!
> celebrate America today
> The Very Idea of America
> The Fourth of July is about the very Idea of America.
> We forget this sometimes. America wasn’t founded on a government, or a 
> political system. All of that came much later.
> It began with this beautiful idea, that our rights come from God. It began 
> with this idea of a society based on these natural rights, on liberty, 
> freedom, free enterprise, self-determination.
> It is our duty to preserve this idea—this Great Experiment—and just as 
> important, to preserve the spirit in which it was conceived.
> That sacred pledge made on this day, they made it to each other. Everything 
> depended on that. Everything after—every success, every sacrifice—came from 
> that common cause.
> Tocqueville thought this was the genius of our country. “Americans of all 
> ages, all conditions, all minds constantly unite,” he wrote.
> Every day, we unite in some small way. We forget this too.
> We give back in our communities, we look for ways to solve problems, we look 
> out for neighbors in need. Those things—civility and civil society—they are 
> what connect us to one another. And by doing our part—whatever it may be—we 
> keep this great experiment going.
> So, celebrate America today. Fire up the grill. Light up the sky.
> Charge up those Apple devices, and give thanks to GOD!
> GOD Bless the USA! :)
> Chuck

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Re: Dead or Frozen iPhone 8 Plus

[regina alvarado]

Tim, just have to tell you that I always learn from your answers. Something I 
didn't consider that it might be volume. Thanks for a tool to use next time I 
find myself feeling I have a frozen phone. Would rather try fixing that before 
hard re-booting.

Reggie and Lex

On Mar 1, 2018, at 10:27 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

I don't believe that this is common.  I don't have the 8 Plus, only the 8, but 
have noticed that sometimes, it doesn't seem like it wants to wake up.  I 
usually just wait a few seconds, then press the Unlock button again, try 
turning VO off then on and/or hit the up volume a few times until it works.  
Have not had to do the reset thing ever though.  If you try the triple press of 
the Home button and you do not feel the haptic feedback, then it will probably 
need to be powered up, otherwise, there's likely something going on with the 
volume causing you to not be able to tell if it's on or off.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 My phone would not wake up this morning, I had to do a force restart. 
Wondering if this is a common issue. I had it on charge overnight.

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Re: Dead or Frozen iPhone 8 Plus

[regina alvarado]

E. T., this is not something I have had happen on charge overnight. A couple 
times my 8 Plus froze needing a hard reset when in an app, but each time it was 
a different one so there was nothing to point to as cause. Sorry I cannot help!

Reggie and Lex

On Mar 1, 2018, at 8:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  My phone would not wake up this morning, I had to do a force restart. 
Wondering if this is a common issue. I had it on charge overnight.

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Re: Braillenote Apex And iPhone

[regina alvarado]

Go to terminal and enter. Go to settings, general, accessibility, voice over 
and then braille. Should be there to pair with . When paired, to get out of 
terminal space with E. Hope that helps. BTW, in youtube ask for "pairing Apex 
with iPhone" Great help.

Reggie and Lex

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Hi.  How to put this device in terminal mode and can it be used with  iPhone? 
How to exit terminal mode as well? Thanks.

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mac versus iPad pro

[regina alvarado]

I want to thank all of you that helped me with deciding about a new Mac. Right 
now I have a 32 gig IPad. Could I get as much out of that as I could from an 
iPad Air? I have a couple of keyboards, and I also got my Apex BT to hook again 
to my phone. I have an 8 Plus. I think the iPad is a 32 gig so I think it may 
be too small. So, I guess I am asking if I sell my Mini and use a keyboard, 
which iPad would be better? Also, I love my 8 Plus because of the two speakers. 
With my hearing deficit I have found it to be the best sound. Would the iPad 
Pro have a better speaker or perhaps two speakers? Again, deeply appreciate all 
your help! 


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help on a new Mac

[regina alvarado]

A question that I know is individual, but I need to get some ideas.

I am thinking of replacing my Mac Mini. I am not a power user. I do mail" and 
go on the internet and maybe listen to music and definitely books. What Mac 
would meet my needs. I like my Mini, but I got it in 2015 and it cannot be 
expanded and only has 4 gigs of ram. Thus I cannot go past El Capitan. What do 
you think. All thoughts are welcome. Still have not decided to change, but 
maybe I will. Might
want a laptop.


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Re: Turning Speaking on

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You can turn voice over on and off with Siri, and I even guarantee that she 
will not argue with you. ☺️ 


Reggie and Lex


On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:09 PM, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:

Bill 

Thank you. I forgot about toggling VoiceOver off and on. A three finger double 
tap does not work for me. Maybe i do the three finger double tap wrong.

Angus MacKinnon

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Re: a

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I am willing to do a clean install of Sierra, but remember I am a Mac baby. If 
you are willing can you send me a step-by-step, off list so I don't do anything 
that will kill my Mini, please? I have nobody who knows Apple if no voice over. 
I know I'm asking a lot, sorry.
On Sep 1, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there
You say your Mac Mini is still on El Capitan. Personally back when I had El 
Capitan on my iMac, I found it to be very buggy and frustrating to use. I 
experienced it as very unstable and simply never liked it.
Maybe you should try going up to Sierra, I liked Sierra right from day one, and 
still find it a very stable build, i'm running it both on my MacBook Pro but 
also on my iMac which is older than your mini. 

It might also be worth doing a total clean install of Sierra while you're at 
it, in other words formatting your hard drive and not simply upgrading over the 
current system. This will take longer and is slightly more effort, but in the 
end you Will have a clean machine and it will feel like a brand-new Mac. You 
might want to do this in the next week or two before High Sierra comes out, or 
at least download Sierra while it's still easy to get.

I'll be running Sierra on my MacBook Pro which is my work machine for at least 
The next few months until I'm sure High Sierra isSuper stable,   

Nickus
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos...

> On 01 Sep 2017, at 20:38, Nimer Jaber <nimerjab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Busy messages happen to me on a Macbook pro, fully specked out, SSD and a 
> bunch of ram and all. They equally happen on a MB air... not sure the cause, 
> and not sure why some experience this and others don't, but this has been my 
> biggest headache with the Mac, and one that causes me to revert to Windows or 
> Linux to achieve productive browsing. Honestly, Safari and an external 
> keyboard on the iPhone is much, much better.
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:57 AM Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> What vintage is your Mini, is it new or older?  Also, do you have an SSD 
>> drive or rotating old style hard disk?  I ask because this information would 
>> help me determine both whether you should upgrade or not and what’s causing 
>> the busy messages.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>> > On Sep 1, 2017, at 12:54 PM, regina alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I am wondering if this is a habit of my Mini or if there is a setting I 
>> > can change. When I was in the internet and moving up and down with 
>> > vo-arrows, oftentimes I would hear internet busy. I have heard this in 
>> > mail also. Once I wait a bit the internet is back on. Is there anything I 
>> > can do to alleviate this? Also, is there a command to go straight to text 
>> > in safari once you are on the article's page? Thanks. Newby but learning 
>> > and determined to understand apple operating system. Oh, I know high 
>> > sierra is coming. I currently have el Capitan. I was told by a person in 
>> > Accessibility that I don't want to upgrade any further as my Mini is like 
>> > a first computer for someone like a grandmother or a user who only wanted 
>> > internet and mail and perhaps music or such basic things. I am happy with 
>> > this, though I have no grandchildren. What does everyone think about this. 
>> > Should I upgrade to any of the higher like sierra? I was told there would 
>> > be less lag if I stayed on El Capitan.
>> >
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Re: a

[regina alvarado]

Hi: My Mini is a 2015. It has an old style disk drive. Hope this helps you to 
help me. I may in the future look to adding Lenox as this would help my brother 
with working with my Mac. He uses Lenox and is my go to person if Mini is not 
working correctly, although I am learning more every day. However, putting 
another operating system on my Mac is far above my pay grade right now. Yes, he 
could teach me lenox. 


Reggie and Lex


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Hello,

Busy messages happen to me on a Macbook pro, fully specked out, SSD and a bunch 
of ram and all. They equally happen on a MB air... not sure the cause, and not 
sure why some experience this and others don't, but this has been my biggest 
headache with the Mac, and one that causes me to revert to Windows or Linux to 
achieve productive browsing. Honestly, Safari and an external keyboard on the 
iPhone is much, much better.

> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:57 AM Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> What vintage is your Mini, is it new or older?  Also, do you have an SSD 
> drive or rotating old style hard disk?  I ask because this information would 
> help me determine both whether you should upgrade or not and what’s causing 
> the busy messages.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> > On Sep 1, 2017, at 12:54 PM, regina alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > I am wondering if this is a habit of my Mini or if there is a setting I can 
> > change. When I was in the internet and moving up and down with vo-arrows, 
> > oftentimes I would hear internet busy. I have heard this in mail also. Once 
> > I wait a bit the internet is back on. Is there anything I can do to 
> > alleviate this? Also, is there a command to go straight to text in safari 
> > once you are on the article's page? Thanks. Newby but learning and 
> > determined to understand apple operating system. Oh, I know high sierra is 
> > coming. I currently have el Capitan. I was told by a person in 
> > Accessibility that I don't want to upgrade any further as my Mini is like a 
> > first computer for someone like a grandmother or a user who only wanted 
> > internet and mail and perhaps music or such basic things. I am happy with 
> > this, though I have no grandchildren. What does everyone think about this. 
> > Should I upgrade to any of the higher like sierra? I was told there would 
> > be less lag if I stayed on El Capitan.
> >
> >
> >
> > Reggie and Lex
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[regina alvarado]

I am wondering if this is a habit of my Mini or if there is a setting I can 
change. When I was in the internet and moving up and down with vo-arrows, 
oftentimes I would hear internet busy. I have heard this in mail also. Once I 
wait a bit the internet is back on. Is there anything I can do to alleviate 
this? Also, is there a command to go straight to text in safari once you are on 
the article's page? Thanks. Newby but learning and determined to understand 
apple operating system. Oh, I know high sierra is coming. I currently have el 
Capitan. I was told by a person in Accessibility that I don't want to upgrade 
any further as my Mini is like a first computer for someone like a grandmother 
or a user who only wanted internet and mail and perhaps music or such basic 
things. I am happy with this, though I have no grandchildren. What does 
everyone think about this. Should I upgrade to any of the higher like sierra? I 
was told there would be less lag if I stayed on El Capitan. 



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Oops how to save as on a mac and how to transfer from downloaded file to memory stick

[Regina Alvarado]

Well, neither thing worked. I sent my UEB as a keyword document. Is there a way 
to make it a  BRF on either braille note or on the Mac? 

Downloaded a book from internet. Copied from the download folder and pasted 
into the books folder after opening the memory stick. No dice. When I go to 
read on the braille note the book is not there. Am I making this too 
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Just checking, ignore

[Regina Alvarado]

Well, I don’t know what happened to my message, but thank you so much 
Catherine. Deeply appreciated. I was dumb. Apparently when I open the stick 
there are a lot of things on the stick not visible on my braille note. All I 
had to do is grow down further through the files after opening the stick and I 
found both folders named as I had them. When I opened the folder I arrowed down 
through a lot of things also until I found all my files. Now I can continue to 
learn how to download books from bookshare. Thanks again.

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To Catherine: Got it!

[Regina Alvarado]

I was dumb. I just didn’t go down far enough to find the folder and its 
contents. I opened the stick and there must be other things in it not visible 
to me on braillenote. Anyway, I have it now. Now I at least believe I can 
attach my file I needed for my course. As far as downloading books from 
Bookshare, I have to do a little more learning. Thanks for all your help. Most 
appreciated. I learned how to make a folder too!
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Re: how to fix control+F3 so it opens the dock again

[regina alvarado]

Isn't the command vo-D? to get to the dock? 


Reggie and Lex


On Aug 29, 2017, at 7:29 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  What about VO-shift-d?

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> On 8/29/2017 4:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> That does no good
> Sent from my iPhone,
> the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Either include the Function key or go to System Preferences, Keyboard, 
>> keyboard and tick the box for standard layout.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 29 Aug 2017, at 21:36, Raymond Foret Jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> control F3 no longer opens dock.  How to fix?
>>> 
>>> Somehow, I seem to have done something to my Mac so that when I press 
>>> control+F3, it no longer exposes the dock but instead I get the boundary 
>>> sound.  How do I fix this so that it works again?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>>> blind:
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> The constantly barefooted Ray
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Re: transferring and downloading and attaching with a memory stick on Mac

[regina alvarado]

Hi Catherine, On my braillenote apex the folders on the stick show up as books 
and lessons. On the Mac I assume they are the same folders, but they are long 
numbers instead of books and lessons. Sorry I didn't make it clear. 


Reggie and Lex


On Aug 29, 2017, at 5:50 PM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
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Hello Reggie,

Clarifying what you're asking - are you saying that when your memory
stick is in your braillenote it has folders called books and lessons,
but when you put the stick in your Mac those folders aren't there and
you get a load of numbers instead?

Catherine

> On 8/29/17, regina alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that I am in the right place, I have a question about reading and
> transferring from and transferring to a memory stick.
> 
> A little background. I have a braillenote apex on which I transferred two
> folders to a memory stick called books and Lessons. I want to get into the
> lessons folder to be able to attach a file to an email. I also want to
> download into the books folder from Bookshare and read them on my
> braillenote.
> 
> Now that you know what I am trying to do, I first want to let everybody know
> I am definitely still a Mac beginner. I have a book I used to get as far as
> I did with this. I put my stick in the computer, ′mac mini′, at the volume I
> pushed command-shift-C. That brought up my list of drives. It was there so I
> used vo-space to open the drive. That was when I got a nasty surprise.
> Instead of names like books and Lessons there were just numbers and no way
> to see what they were. I understand these are just images so if I have to
> copy them where do I paste them?
> 
> So questions are: how do I transfer files and folders to and from my stick
> and how do I get the folders titled. Also, I realize, at least I think, I
> cannot download directly onto my stick. If I am correct, how do I transfer
> from the download folder to the stick and will the braillenote read the
> files if in BRF? Please do these questions step-by-step as I thought I
> understood what I read but obviously there steps gave me a big surprise.
> Deeply appreciate any help on all of this. I imagine most people on here are
> advanced Mac users so feel free to send answers to:
> reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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transferring and downloading and attaching with a memory stick on Mac

[regina alvarado]

Now that I am in the right place, I have a question about reading and 
transferring from and transferring to a memory stick.

A little background. I have a braillenote apex on which I transferred two 
folders to a memory stick called books and Lessons. I want to get into the 
lessons folder to be able to attach a file to an email. I also want to download 
into the books folder from Bookshare and read them on my braillenote. 

Now that you know what I am trying to do, I first want to let everybody know I 
am definitely still a Mac beginner. I have a book I used to get as far as I did 
with this. I put my stick in the computer, ′mac mini′, at the volume I pushed 
command-shift-C. That brought up my list of drives. It was there so I used 
vo-space to open the drive. That was when I got a nasty surprise. Instead of 
names like books and Lessons there were just numbers and no way to see what 
they were. I understand these are just images so if I have to copy them where 
do I paste them? 

So questions are: how do I transfer files and folders to and from my stick and 
how do I get the folders titled. Also, I realize, at least I think, I cannot 
download directly onto my stick. If I am correct, how do I transfer from the 
download folder to the stick and will the braillenote read the files if in BRF? 
Please do these questions step-by-step as I thought I understood what I read 
but obviously there steps gave me a big surprise. Deeply appreciate any help on 
all of this. I imagine most people on here are advanced Mac users so feel free 
to send answers to: reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 



Reggie and Lex

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Re: Touch ID and purchasing things in the Apple online stores

[Regina Alvarado]

Mary, have you turn your phone off lately? I believe there is a time period, 
about 4 hours, where you can use your fingerprint after signing in with your 
Apple ID. If you have shut down your phone, you have to always sign in. Clear 
as mud? 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I am confused about the use of touch ID in places like the iBooks store, app 
store or iTunes store. I thought I was set up for that. But I just purchased an 
iBook. I hit the buy button and was prompted to sign in with my password. I put 
my finger on the home  button for touch ID, nothing happened. So I signed  in 
the usual way and the book was purchased. Now I don't have a problem signing 
in. I have been doing it for a long time. But I am confused as to how this 
touch ID thing is supposed to work. There must be some setting I am missing. Or 
I just don't understand its operation.
Mary

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Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Regina Alvarado]

What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. By 
your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a screen 
protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and movement of 
the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been out? Again, 
curious. 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin  wrote:

I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize

If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
exclusively only on the iPhone6S+

Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize

What a Concept

In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if 
they desire that feature, which is about $100 More

JustSaying
At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
> Anders,
> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But 
> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. 
> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that 
> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. 
> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the 
> larger phones.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal 
> > preference so don’t be angry.
> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
> > then i’d be as happy as can be.
> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
> > that so i don’t care much about it.
> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
> > /A
> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
> >>
> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
> >> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people 
> >> say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I 
> >> can't say yes or no.
> >>
> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had 
> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple 
> >> will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they 
> >> can do to change them.
> >>
> >> Kawal.
> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall  wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see 
> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, 
> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I 
> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. 
> >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my 
> >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and 
> >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest 
> >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested 
> >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that 
> >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning 
> >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape 
> >> mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward 
> >> to.
> >>
> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a 
> >> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might 
> >> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite 
> >> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just 
> >> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S 
> >> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the 
> >> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes 
> >> both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised.
> >>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do 
> >>> wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in 
> >>> every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks 
> >>> who use Braille screen input, the larger 

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Regina Alvarado]

I bought it in the Sprint store. It is wonderful. I would say Amazon or other 
places have them, though. No more stuck fingers. In fact, I find myself tapping 
even lighter on the screen. Do not know why this is so, however. It just 
happened. It cost about 40 dollars so it is more expensive, but I will always 
have one. 
On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use 
the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that 
includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with 
what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you 
will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did 
you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
> like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. 
> By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a 
> screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and 
> movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been 
> out? Again, curious. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
> TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize
> 
> If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
> I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
> exclusively only on the iPhone6S+
> 
> Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
> as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize
> 
> What a Concept
> 
> In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice 
> if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More
> 
> JustSaying
> At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
>> Anders,
>> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
>> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
>> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But 
>> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. 
>> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that 
>> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. 
>> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the 
>> larger phones.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal 
>> > preference so don’t be angry.
>> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod 
>> > touch then i’d be as happy as can be.
>> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
>> > that so i don’t care much about it.
>> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
>> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
>> > /A
>> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com>:
>> >>
>> >> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille 
>> >> keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially 
>> >> sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have 
>> >> no sight, I can't say yes or no.
>> >>
>> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had 
>> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt 
>> >> Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know 
>> >> what they can do to change them.
>> >>
>> >> Kawal.
>> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see 
>> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, 
>> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I 
>> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. 
>> >> Both days, I was a

Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)

[Regina Alvarado]

Were you able to feel the bubbles? Interesting. I wonder why as it fits over 
the glass of the phone. Well, I guess I will find out. LOL. It will not matter 
to me unless it bubbles under my fingers, but it could drive a VI or sighted 
person to drink I imagine. 
On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:46 PM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:

The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it on 
for you.
Note;  I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so we 
took them off.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
 
 Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use 
the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that 
includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with 
what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you 
will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did 
you get the gorilla glass screen protector?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:

 
What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I 
like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. By 
your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a screen 
protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and movement of 
the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been out? Again, 
curious. 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:

I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with 
TheSameSpecs with the exception of TheirSize

If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... 
I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is 
exclusively only on the iPhone6S+

Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge 
as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+  so the only Real Difference is TheirSize

What a Concept

In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if 
they desire that feature, which is about $100 More

JustSaying
At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:

Anders,
I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the 
same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same 
dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I 
wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There 
was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the 
same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if 
they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones.
Mary
 
Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference 
> so don’t be angry.
> To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch 
> then i’d be as happy as can be.
> Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use 
> that so i don’t care much about it.
> We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for 
> english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards.
> /A
>> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com>:
>> 
>> I like the plus size  as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard 
>> then there is more room to spread your fingers.  Partially sighted people 
>> say to me that they can read the screen better.  As I have no sight, I can't 
>> say yes or no.
>> 
>> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started 
>> with the 4 so was looking for something different.  No doubt Apple will not 
>> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to 
>> change them.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how 
>> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with 
>> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it 
>> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I 
>> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small 
>> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you 
>> might imagine. Not b

6s and touch to open contexual menu

[Regina Alvarado]

I know this is a mac list, but since Jonathan did a podcast on the 6s Plus, I 
thought I would send along a tip. There is nothing to say an app does not work 
to bring up the contectual menu, but there is a definite difference in the feel 
of the vibration. When an app will not work, the vibration is longer by a bit 
and there are 2 beats to it. When it works there is only one small beat. When 
you immediately swipe to the right the contectual menu is right there. It is 
wonderful for calendar and notes and reminders. Hope this helps someone. 

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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Regina Alvarado]

So sorry Kawal. 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 19, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Kawal. Please forgive.  Gucukoglu 
<kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

I'm she, rather than a he.
On 19 Sep 2015, at 22:31, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:

If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is the 
bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least no 
doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.



> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael <mich...@yourownpay.com> wrote:
> 
> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, is 
>> that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan will be 
>> released as I don't know.
>> 
>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>> here now.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[Regina Alvarado]

If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is the 
bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least no 
doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 

reggie & Lex

On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.



> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
> 
> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, is 
>> that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan will be 
>> released as I don't know.
>> 
>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>> here now.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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a question on notifications in FB Mesenger

[Regina Alvarado]

Hi all, I know this is a mac list, but I have a question about notifications on 
iPhone and Bacebook Mesenger if someone could help. I'll say thanks before my 
question. 

A friend was installing mesenger. She got all the messages about her phone 
number, contacts etc. She was going through these quickly saying no. When she 
came to notifications she accidentally said she didn't want them on. However, 
she does. How can she turn notifications back on in FB Mesenger. We looked in 
settings both in notifications and under Mesenger. Nothing there. Does she have 
to go into the FB actual site?


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on flash and Mac, iPhone and iPad with Netflix

[Regina Alvarado]

I have 2 questions.

1. Does anyone know how I can get video description on the Netflix site on the 
Mac? Do I need flash any longer with Yosemite, and how do I find a flash 
program?
2. I have turned on descriptive in accessibility on iPhone and iPad. I have the 
Netflix app. I know Orange is the New Black is described. Am I supposed to have 
it start automatically with that setting or do I need to tell Netflix somehow 
that my devices have description on? Thank you for any help you can give. 
appreciated. 


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Re: KNFB reader

[Regina Alvarado]

Great. I attended the KNFB Reader seminar in Orlando and thought I heard it 
would be released for IOS about 2 weeks after the convention. However, 
synchronizing with release to Android makes more sense. Features sound 
wonderful. Thanks for the answers.

reggie  Lex

On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:00 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:

It will be getting a stand mode feature with motion detection as well as 
dropbox support and 2.0 will be released syncrhonously on both IOS and android.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


 On Aug 3, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I don't think anything has been released yet as far as timing or feature set. 
 Of course, there may have been details in the audio from the conventions that 
 I missed, as I didn't follow those very closely. Either way, I don't think 
 the developers have said much.
 On Aug 3, 2015, at 2:52 PM, venky...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes!
 If you have it installed on your device, it will show up in the updates 
 section when an update is available.
 I hope that was your question. I'm curious, is there any feature that the 
 app will be getting when it is updated?
 Hope this helps.
 Thank U.
 Regards,
 Venkatesh
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 03-Aug-2015, at 10:24 pm, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I was wondering if anyone has heard when the KNFB reader app update will be 
 released. I have gotten the app so it will show in the app store 
 automatically, correct? 
 
 
 reggie  Lex
 
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KNFB reader

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I was wondering if anyone has heard when the KNFB reader app update will be 
released. I have gotten the app so it will show in the app store automatically, 
correct? 


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moving a txt file in attachment to memory stick

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What I wish to do is move an attachment that is txt file to a memory stick. Can 
someone tell me steps to do this, please? Thanks for any help. 


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Re: apple care

[Regina Alvarado]

Hello all:
I just resubscribed here. When I bought my new Mac Mini I got Apple Care. I 
asked if it extended to my iPhone and iPad and was informed it did not. Now, 
sometimes you can get a whole new answer if you ask someone else, but that is 
what I was told, each one is separate. Of course, more money. (smiley)

reggie  Lex

On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

I heard that accidental damage is covered with the Apple Care, if you get it on 
a phone. I think it might be $79 or something, not sure if it covers macs 
though.
 
- Original Message -
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: apple care

I know in the past I've been able to visit an Apple store and get a phone 
exchanged for less than the cost of a new device. I had forgotten it was in my 
pocket and went swimming with it. At the time I think they charged me about 
$150-200 and I told them exactly what happened. That's been a few years ago 
when the iPhone 4 was new. It was money I didn't really want to spend but it 
was still far less than the cost of outright buying a new one. Maybe they do 
the same thing for laptops. There are stories elsewhere on the web of folks 
calling AppleCare for water in their laptops and being told it's not covered 
but being able to get a spill repair for way less than the cost of a new one. 
Still could be a non-trivial cost but better than buying a whole new unit. 
Other forums also mention having computer damage riders on their insurance 
covering this kind of thing so you might want to check into that. There are 
also 3rd party repair shops which might have a lower cost than going through 
the official Apple channels such as ispillrepair.com. I've never used them but 
it might be worth a try.

CB

 On 7/2/15 7:03 AM, May wrote:
 Can't use what doesn't work, smiles.
 
 As I said mother nature decided to blow rain into the window and it totally 
 soaked the mac along with loads of other stuff.
 
 May and LD Luna Moon!
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 AppleCare for a Mac is like an extended warranty, to the best of my 
 knowledge. Accidental damage like this surely would not be covered. Your 
 best bet would be to call apple or visit the genius bar to inquire what 
 you're options are. You should discontinued use of the computer until you 
 decide what to do, to avoid further damage.
 
 Grant
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:51 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca 
 wrote:
 
 Hey everyone. Hopefully someone can answer my question. I'm so frustrated 
 right now that I can't think straight.
 
 Is there a place where I can go see if my mac is covered under apple care 
 if it's killed by water?
 
 My poor mac was just drowned in rain thanks to mother nature and soaking 
 pretty much everything with blowing wind and loads of rain while I was out 
 for lunch.
 
 Sadly I can't call apple to ask them due to the fact it's a holiday here in 
 Canada, grrr!!
 
 
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Re: Problems with Voice Dream Reader on an iPhone 6

[Regina Alvarado]

Go  into settings in dream reader. Go to settings right bottom corner. In 
settings tap manage my voices, restore my voices and in that screen there will 
be a list of your voices with either set preferred or download underneath its 
name. Download the one you want and set preferred. Hth. 

Reggie

On Feb 11, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am having a rather unusual problem with Voice Dream Reader on my 
recently-purchased iPhone 6.  The iPhone is running the latest iOS software and 
has 64 GB of memory.  The phone is unlocked.

When I backed up everything from my iPhone 4S, all of the Voice Dream Reader 
stuff appeared on the new iPhone.  The only things that didn’t carry over to 
the new iPhone were the additional voices I purchased.  These voices were 
high-quality voices for both English and German.  I was able to restore the 
German voice, but thus far, I have not been able to restore James, the high 
quality English which I purchased.  Whenever I try, I am told that the voice 
can’t be transferred because of poor connectivity.  While I can believe this, 
were I only at one physical site for downloading, I have tried at five or six 
different places, with 3 out of 3 bars reception and fast connectivity.

Does anyone have any ideas for me?  I would very much like to have the voices I 
paid for on my new iPHone 6.

Thanks to you all,

Mike

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upgrading?

[Regina Alvarado]

Hi all,
I do not post much, but I think I am ready to move from Maverick to Yosemity. 
Is it stable enough now? Can I get either pointed to a detailed step-by-step 
how-to on the internet or can someone give me one? I think I can upgrade to the 
latest iTunes. 

I thought I could not upgrade because I needed 4 gigs, but my brother told me 
that is RAM not what is on my hard drive. If I do the upgrade and do not have 
enough space will it tell me so I can go right back to Mavericks? I have a Mac 
Mini. 


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Re: Easiest Printers for the Mac

[Regina Alvarado]

Need to know exactly the same thing, but I also need it to work on a windows 
machine also. No bells and whistles. It can be a little more than fifty unless 
it does everything I want. Thanks! 

reggie and Allegra

On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

Hey all,

For years I have been saying why do I need a printer when I can’t see anything. 
Having to only print out a few things a year I always relied on someone else to 
get things printed, but now am rethinking that as it is a pain at times. Does 
anyone know of a printer for under $50 that they have that needs little to no 
maintenance and is compact. Being that I would not use it very much and I 
already have a scanner I do not think I need something with all the bells and 
whistles. Would probably like to be able to connect via bluetooth or my network 
as the less cables the better.

Thanks,

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Re: problem keeping the preview pain off in mail.

[Regina Alvarado]

A completely stupid question. However, here goes. What is the preview pane? Is 
it the list of messages? If so, I am running Mavericks on a Mini. What would 
happen if I hid it? How do I do it from the keyboard? I faved an email that 
says to swipe down on the pad. I do not have this device. Also, is Yosemite 
worth taking my Mini an hour away to have an apple store put it on? 

reggie and Allegra

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Hi all,

Last night, I was able to remove the preview in mail  by  switching to classic 
view then moving over to the spliter between the message list and the message 
pain after doing this I switched back to the standered view and I was able to 
confirm that the message pain was disabled both before and after restarting 
mail.  

Today I had to reducible it after turning on my mac this afternoon. Now for the 
life of me it will not stick for some reason.  Is there anyone on this list 
having the same problem and how did you salve this?  Thanks.  It is very 
annoying.   BTW  I had this problem in mavrecs and I have updated to yosemity 
and still have this problemm.  Apple if you are listening  please give us the 
option of disabling the preview pain through either the menus or with a 
keystroke.  

Thanks again.


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installing yosemity

[Regina Alvarado]

Hello all, can someone who has put yosemity on their Mac give me step-by-step 
instructions on how to install. I am a new Mac owner with a Mac Mini, and 
though I have done updates to Mavericks I am extremely nervous about installing 
Yosemity. Some say it should be done with a clean install, but I have no idea 
how to do this. I need a patient soul who will walk me straight through this! 
Anyone who can do this, I am deeply in debt.


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a printer to use with both Mac Mini and a Win-h computer

[Regina Alvarado]

Is there a computer printer that could work with both a windows 8 machine and a 
Mac Mini that we could use on wifi? Thanks for any help with this. I have the 
Mini and my friend has the Windows 8 machine.


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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

[Regina Alvarado]

I have wanted to switch to iCloud, but how do I do it? Need some step-by-step. 
Thanks. 


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On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:39 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:

This was a well  known issue with the early releases of Mavericks but I 
believed that this had been fixed by Apple in a subsequent update to the OS. 
Certainly I am having absolutely no issues with G mail in my latest  version of 
Mavericks.
Could I ask both of you whether you have gone to the Apple Menu and selected 
check for software updates to see if you are both running the latest version of 
Mavericks available?

If you are running the latest version of Mavericks and this has still not 
sorted the problem then for whatever reason the patch Apple issued has not 
taken affect on your systems.
If this is the case then the easiest way to resolve this may be a re-install or 
a clean install.
The good news is that on the Mac this is a much easier and simpler exercise to 
complete than on Windows but check for whether you have the latest updates 
first.


David Griffith




 On 17-08/2014 20:21, Kevin Cussick wrote:
 I am having the same problem,   sorry no help to you but just letting you 
 your not the only one it is gmail at the moment but I have a blueyonder 
 account not set it up yet.  I have had no help thus far.
 
 On 15/08/2014 19:46, Jose
 wrote:
 Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having issues with 
 Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting emails on my Mac! We 
 tried everything and no go! It seems like my emails are going to the Archive 
 folder! I am getting email on my iPhone it's just my Mac that is having 
 issues! Please help!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Can't find splitter to drag to close Mail preview pane

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Asking a dumb question. What is the mail preview payne? How do I get rid of it, 
and if I do, what is the difference in how I would read mail?


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On Jun 6, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

Put Mail into classic view in Mail preferences, viewing, then check use 
classic layout.. Then find the message list and VO-right. You should find the 
splitter there.

HtH,
teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

 On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I believe that you need to put your Mail into Classic view first.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 On my MBA (which I'm using for everything until my Mini is back), I can't 
 find the splitter I should be able to use to close the horribly annoying 
 preview pane in Mail. Can someone remind me where it is, in case I'm 
 thinking of the wrong one? Thanks.
 
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wifi not sure if on or off on Mini but cannot use internet, mail

[Regina Alvarado]

Hello all,
I have a perplexing problem. My Mac Mini dropped off the wifi a few days ago. 
My brother was able to do something and said the Mini wifi was not on. He got 
wifi turned on, at least it was on until I turned off the Mini just a few mins 
ago. I could get the internet but when I turned it off and back on, wifi was 
gone again. I went to system prefs and network. There is a button that says 
turn wifi off. That makes me think I am connected to wifi, but mail, internet, 
etc is not viable. Help! I have a course on line I am trying to get to 
which I have not been able to get to at all because of no wifi and I want to 
access it on the Mac. I have cable wifi, a network set up and rebooted by the 
cable company a week ago with a new password and every other device including 
my roommate's window's machine is on wifi. I moved the Mini from about 30 feet 
away from the router to now around a wall about 5 feet from the router. Do you 
think I need a stronger router? Thank everyone so much for any thoughts or ways 
of getting my wifi back. I am anxious to start my course. 



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Help! Where is iTunes backup and sync

[regina alvarado]

Hello all:
Frustrated! I thought after the last update I had a handle on how to at least 
backup and in crypt and sync my iPhone and iPad. I have been everywhere, and 
all I see on the current update is everything but ... Ready to throw my Mini 
out the window, pun intended!!

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from my iPhone because Mini is not doing what it should

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Now I tried to use the quit command in mail and it didn't work! Leaving this 
thing until later! All it would say is mail has no windows! Duh? That's what 
I wanted, but I can move nowhere! I only can tell Mini to go to the volume! 
Just rebooted but going to do something else before I come back to this new 
update. Haven't been in Safari, too afraid! Grrr! 



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Re: from my iPhone because Mini is not doing what it should

[Regina Alvarado]

I know we are not supposed to say thanks, but thanks for the cnd-option escape 
command. Deeply appreciated.


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On May 18, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Have you tried a force quit? In Mail, do cmd-option-escape. A table will appear 
with all running applications, the current one (Mail) selected. Press enter, 
confirm you really want to do this, and Mail will be closed.
 On May 18, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Now I tried to use the quit command in mail and it didn't work! Leaving 
 this thing until later! All it would say is mail has no windows! Duh? 
 That's what I wanted, but I can move nowhere! I only can tell Mini to go to 
 the volume! Just rebooted but going to do something else before I come back 
 to this new update. Haven't been in Safari, too afraid! Grrr! 
 
 
 
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Re: from my iPhone because Mini is not doing what it should

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Thanks so much Tim. It makes sense to me as you described. From now on I will 
wait a bit before asking mail or any app to quit.  Phew, just so much to learn. 
(smiles)
Reggie and Allegra  

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Hi Reggie,

What probably happened to cause your Mail to not actually quit has to do with 
iMap functions being still in progress when you asked Mail to Quit.  That is, 
if you, let's say, deleted a message then real soon after, quit Mail.  The 
deleting of the message happens quickly locally but because of Gmails pseudo 
application of the iMap protocol, the moving/re-labelling of the message to the 
Archive or Trash takes about 5 or more seconds depending on your network speed. 
 So, consequently, quitting while Mail and Google are talking back and forth 
occasionally causes Mail to hang in an odd sort of way.  The best thing to do 
is exactly what Alex mentioned, force Mail to quit and when you do go back into 
Mail, the last message you deleted or attempted to move will be in its original 
location and all is good.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Now I tried to use the quit command in mail and it didn't work! Leaving 
 this thing until later! All it would say is mail has no windows! Duh? 
 That's what I wanted, but I can move nowhere! I only can tell Mini to go to 
 the volume! Just rebooted but going to do something else before I come back 
 to this new update. Haven't been in Safari, too afraid! Grrr! 
 
 
 
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Re: reading PDF attachments

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Tim, I guess I don't know what I am looking for. When I opened the file it 
seemed to be in a toolbar. What am I looking for to interact so I can try to 
read. I have not read a document on the Mac yet. I think, though, that it may 
have been a scanned document as I did not recognize anything like I have in 
mail for reading the email. Gosh, I am learning, but the more I learn is the 
more questions and confusion I have. I guess Windows was like that in the 
beginning, but my brain was a whole lot younger then! LOL; Chuckling!


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On May 8, 2014, at 5:39 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

Hi there 
Although you can use an OCR program to OCR a pdf file and read the thing, I 
have had better and more efficient luck with PDF Pen Pro. It OCR's the thing 
and starts reading it very fast. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

 On May 7, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Usually, you can tell simply by it not being readable by your PDF reader.  
 The sender may have scanned it sometime in the past thus making it an image 
 of the legal document consequently unreadable by a blind/visually impaired 
 user.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 7, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 How do I know if the file is a page image? It was sent from a computer and 
 was not scanned. It was hooked to an email.
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
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 Hi,
 
 If the pdf is an image of a page, the only way to read that sort of pdf is 
 to use OCR to transform it into a useful pdf with hooks that VO can latch 
 onto in order to read it to you.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 7, 2014, at 3:34 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 PDFs are supported on the Mac. However, some PDFs are not accessible. Some 
 PDFs are images of pages.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 8 May 2014, at 9:31, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On the Mac, how do I read attachments in PDF? I had an attachment. I 
 VO-SPACED on it and got a menu with options. I chose to open the PDF file. 
 When I tried to read, I could only see the title. The attachments I need 
 to read are legal so imporftant to see. What am I doing wrong or is PDF 
 not supported fully on the Mac?
 
 
 
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Re: IPhone 5 running 7.1 Messages broken?

[Regina Alvarado]

Mark: First congrats on your marriage. Hope Amy is doing well now. This is a 
thing I run into about twice weekly. Just turn the phone off and back on. This 
has always cleared any problem with texting for me. You might try a reset 
holding the off and on and home buttons for 10 seconds if the first does not 
work. However, just turning off and on has done the clearing for me 
consistently. Hope this helps!


reggie and Allegra

On May 7, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I have been using messages on my iPhone 5 fine, up until this afternoon. 
Lately, however, when I open the app, voiceover goes silent, and screen appears 
to freeze.

I am hoping a simple upgrade will fix this, but cannot otherwise figure out 
what I will maybe.

Thanks again.

PS: Amy Three Deer and I were married on Monday, May 5, 2014 is all over Amy's 
and my Facebook pages, Amy is putting up her amazing photography and 
videography on YouTube as we speak. You cannot possibly enjoy it as much as we 
are

Sent from my iPhone

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reading PDF attachments

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On the Mac, how do I read attachments in PDF? I had an attachment. I VO-SPACED 
on it and got a menu with options. I chose to open the PDF file. When I tried 
to read, I could only see the title. The attachments I need to read are legal 
so imporftant to see. What am I doing wrong or is PDF not supported fully on 
the Mac?



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Re: reading PDF attachments

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How do I know if the file is a page image? It was sent from a computer and was 
not scanned. It was hooked to an email.


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On May 7, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

Hi,

If the pdf is an image of a page, the only way to read that sort of pdf is to 
use OCR to transform it into a useful pdf with hooks that VO can latch onto in 
order to read it to you.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On May 7, 2014, at 3:34 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 PDFs are supported on the Mac. However, some PDFs are not accessible. Some 
 PDFs are images of pages.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 8 May 2014, at 9:31, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On the Mac, how do I read attachments in PDF? I had an attachment. I 
 VO-SPACED on it and got a menu with options. I chose to open the PDF file. 
 When I tried to read, I could only see the title. The attachments I need to 
 read are legal so imporftant to see. What am I doing wrong or is PDF not 
 supported fully on the Mac?
 
 
 
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Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping

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On the mini, especially in the web, I will try to move through links and 
intermittently VO will go crazy and skip around as if sliding down the page. I 
tried to turn off VO and restart it hoping it would work. However, I am unable 
to turn it off. I thought the command was VO F2 F2, but this doesn't work. How 
do I stop and restart VO? I know you can turn it off with I think VO f10, but 
does that only mute like the three-finger double tap? 

I would also like to know how to find windows open as my machine is telling me 
there are windows open but can't find them. They are not the ones on the dock. 
Any help you can give deeply appreciated. The skipping is annoying.


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On May 5, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there any way to work around this? What if the stuff in triple brackets is 
necessary and you want VO to speak it? If these are related strictly to speech, 
what about Braille displays? does that “unspoken text” get shown on the display 
or is it not shown there either?

 On May 2, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have also seen this for years.
 
 this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech 
 command which you can see in action by doing the following.
 
 I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's 
 speech go wonky! lol! :)
 
 1 open a text file with TextEdit
 
 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three brackets 
 as in: [[[ command ]]]
 
 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file as 
 in: This is just a test
 
 Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite 
 slowly.
 
 The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute.
 
 So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech 
 command, but does not speak what is in those brackets.
 
 Hope this helps explain this a bit.
 
 Have a great day All!
 
 Cara :)
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 On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You know what's weird? The word secret was read in say-all and line-by-line 
 reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't appear to work 
 anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured out the rules that 
 cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. Thanks.
 On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. 
 So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket 
 that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails:
 
 This is some [[[secret]]] text.
 
 I have the word secret in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move 
 focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty 
 low-level bug.
 
 CB
 
 On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I 
 can read character by character and it shows up, though.
 
 Teresa
 
 “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. 
 Feynman
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone 
 can confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know 
 Objective-C or anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. 
 Specifically, the bit that says [[self solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole] 
 is omitted entirely. I recommend you set punctuation to most before 
 continuing. Here's the line:
 
 [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self 
 solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole;
 
 I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back 
 and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there 
 isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce 
 this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are 
 getting VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded by 
 double brackets, and I think the speech manager that lets VO talk might be 
 getting mixed up.
 
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Re: setting up a commander

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What is a commander, and what can it do?


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On Apr 29, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello there,

Can someone tell me step by step how to set up a commander?  I haven't set them 
up yet.

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how to change back to Mini going to sleep

[regina alvarado]

Hello all again:
I want to change my Mini back to going to sleep when not in use to save 
batteries on my bluetooth keyboard. I went to systems prefs and saw settings 
for time, and put to sleep when possible. Am I in the right place? What are the 
steps to change back so I will have to put my password in each time the machine 
goes to sleep. I thought I did not want Mini sleeping, but I think it will save 
my batteries. Is this correct? Thanks for the help. 

By the way, proud of myself, backed up and synced my iPhone in iTunes last 
night. Even made an encrypted backup. We shall see if I ever need it if I have 
done it correctly, but I followed instruction, and everything seems just fine. 

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Re: how to change back to Mini going to sleep

[regina alvarado]

If I have the time set to 30 minutes and check both power nap and put to sleep 
when possible, after 30 minutes will Mini automatically go to the 
authentication pane and go to sleep? If I am doing something, watching Netflix 
or something, will the computer completely turn off at the point of 30 minutes. 
If so, how do I stop this. I want Mini to save battery life by going to sleep 
when it is not in use, but I do not want to go back to the authentication 
screen if reading or watching something. Does any of this make sense? Thanks 
for the help.
Reggie and Allegra  

On Apr 27, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

Hi.

That is interesting as I adjusted my I Mac's sleeping schedule.

You need to go to System preferences which you can do with VO M when in Finder 
to bring up the menus.  Once you find Preferences after using VO down arrow, Vo 
space and right with VO once.

Then interact with the table and type EN for energy savings and again press VO. 
 Then you can VO right to explore your settings in Energy preferences.

Hope that helps.

Kawal.
On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:34, regina alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all again:
 I want to change my Mini back to going to sleep when not in use to save 
 batteries on my bluetooth keyboard. I went to systems prefs and saw settings 
 for time, and put to sleep when possible. Am I in the right place? What are 
 the steps to change back so I will have to put my password in each time the 
 machine goes to sleep. I thought I did not want Mini sleeping, but I think it 
 will save my batteries. Is this correct? Thanks for the help. 
 
 By the way, proud of myself, backed up and synced my iPhone in iTunes last 
 night. Even made an encrypted backup. We shall see if I ever need it if I 
 have done it correctly, but I followed instruction, and everything seems just 
 fine. 
 
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Old versions of apps backed up in iTunes and a question

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I have an iPhone and an iPad. I updated The Weather Channel on my iPhone but 
did not on my iPad. I encrypted backup for both devices and synced them. How 
can I take the older version from backup on; iPad and transfer it to the 
iPhone? I need step-by-step instructions, please. I do not want to lose the old 
version. I have both devices set so apps will not update automatically. Thanks 
for any help you can give me. In the last 2 days, I have learned a whole lot 
about my Mini by reading and playing. Beginning to believe I will become a Mac 
devotee eventually. It sure keeps my old brain active! LOL
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sharing success

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Just need to share! I am the editor for Raven Newcastle self published on 
Amazon and Kindle. I had 2 files that were word .doc files which I needed to 
transfer to a memory stick so I could edit with my Apex. Sooo happy with 
myself! I sent the attachments to downloads, copied the files and pasted them 
into my books folder on the memory stick! I know this is a very small thing, 
but for a new Mac Mini user, it is huge. Thank you for letting me share. 
Learned a lot this weekend here, and this success just tops it off.



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How do I get a list of signatures instead of it saying none when doing a message in mail

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Hello:
I listened to a podcast on mail and making signatures on Macfortheblind. I can 
put in signature 1 and signature 2, but when I go to write a ;message I see the 
pop up button to get the list of signatures but when I enter the pop up there 
is no list just none and edit signature. What am I missing?
Reggie and Allegra put in by hand and how do I get the signature on the email?

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Where do I find the applications folder and how do I delete a downloaded file from there?

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Hi:
Thanks for the help with the signatures. Sure enough, I was not on my account. 
(smiles) Ah learning! Anyway, everything is; fixed with my signatures, but now 
I want to find downloads and delete the old Adobe files from applications 
folder. I read somewhere that when a new version of Adobe is downloaded that 
the previous one should be deleted. Maybe this is the reason I am not receiving 
signal from Adobe 13. Thus the question.

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Itunes on Mac

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Hello all:
Can someone point me to a podcast on using; the Mac Mini iTunes or can you 
point me in the general direction? I have been in iTunes, and it looks nothing 
like it did in Windows. I have no music so far, though I hope to change that in 
a bit. However, I want to sync or backup my apps on my phone. I am seeing 
nothing to be able to do this, just things about music and the iTunes store. 
Must be a command I am not doing in the right place. I do have iCloud, but I 
would like the added protection. By the way, can someone tell me the difference 
between backing up and syncing, please. Thanks for any help you can give me. 
Slowly, very slowly learning the Mini. Wish I didn't need to keep my Windows 
mache, but I need to work with RTF documents sometimes so guess I will need to 
keep it. Thanks again for the help.

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using Pages for an RTF file

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I am the editor for 2 authors. In an attachment I have been sent my next 
project. It must be handled in RTF. Can Pages be used to transfer the RTF file 
onto a memory stick to read on an Apex and then transferred back to Pages to 
send back as an attachment. Am I stuck using a windows machine for this? Can 
someone walk me through the steps if possible, please? I would be willing to 
facetime or call someone if this cannot be described in an email. Thanks to 
anybody who can give advice on this. I appreciate the help. Still just a bit 
above my understanding of the Mac Mini. (smiles)



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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

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Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I find 
the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. Thanks for any 
detailed help with this.


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On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open the disc 
image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML window.

HtH,
Teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

 On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have someone 
 to do it for me.
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML based and 
 much easier to use.
 
 HtH,
 teresa
 
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Re: Listening to APH Interview on the Mac

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HELLO Keith and all. Need some newby help. Sounds as if I should have gone to 
Google Chrome. How can I get rid of Adobe Flash and get Chrome? Does it disable 
Safari or does it just work automatically? I said I was new at this, especially 
with Mini. I use flash for streaming HLN, MSNBC, etc. Will Chrome work? Thanks.


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On Apr 5, 2014, at 4:46 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Keith and others,

I took your suggestion, Keith, and just used Google Chrome, and it worked like 
a charm.  Thank you very much.  I think that this will be my approach in the 
future.  I am still using Mountain Lion but will be upgrading, now that most of 
the gotchas have been addressed.  I hope that Google Chrome will work just as 
well when I upgrade.

Thanks again for the help.

Mike

 On 4,Apr,2014, at 8:28 PM, Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Use Google Chrome to listen to flash. Its built in so you don’t need to 
 install any Adobe crap on your Mac.
 
 Keith
 
 On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I subscribe to an excellent weekly publication with which some of you may be 
 familiar.  It is called Flying Blind.  In the most recent publication, I 
 read the following:
 
 B) At APH, they held a conversation with long-time audio book narrator Nitzi 
 Friedlander:
 http://www.tcdocumentcenter.com/archives/rse86655772cc2/Mitzib.friedlander/
 
 When I went to that link using my MacBook, I was unable to figure out a way 
 to listen to the interview.  Although there was an option to download the 
 Adobe Flash Player, I didn't try to do so since it is my understanding that 
 Apple doesn't support it.  If I want to listen to this interview using my 
 Mac, how would this be accomplished?
 
 Thank you.
 
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Two Mini questions

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Hello all:
Three questions. I know I put 2, but just throughout of a third. Sorry.

1. I somehow re-named my volume on the desktop. It is fine, but is there a way 
to have it go back to the previous name? What did I do to re-name it? It just 
turned up on the desktop with the name of my guide dog! How I accomplished it 
is a mystery to me.
2. Today I tried to download Adobe Flash 12. I have it downloaded but wish to 
uninstall 11. How do I do this? I could re-download 11, but I only want 12, 
current version.
3. When I downloaded Adobe Flash, it ended up out of downloads and on the 
desktop. What did I do incorrectly? I do not know if this is the 12 on the 
desktop or the older version. How can I tell to delete as above?

Thank you for any help you can give on these things. Please be specific and 
step-by-step. I am learning the Mini, but by no means an expert! Thanks a bunch.
Reggie and Allegra

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garage band, update or not and do I really have it

[Regina Alvarado]

I have an interesting problem or not. APPLE menu and updates on Mini says I 
have update to garage band. I have tried to download twice and keep getting 
message: garage band failed to download. Go to purchased page. Mini acts like 
it has garage band and there is an update. Where do I find it if I have it, and 
how do I clear off the download if I do not have it. I did not buy it either. 
Thanks for the help.



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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

[Regina Alvarado]

Ray, only way I see to get around it is to start writing name of the person and 
then all numbers will show up. However you are correct. It sure does enter the 
home number if you go into contacts and tap on iPhone number. 


reggie and Allegra

On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

Let me try to explain a little more exactly what the problem really is and why 
it's a big deal to me.

1.  Go in to message app.

2.  Double tap compose.

3.  Now, double tap to choose a contact to add.

4.  Now, choose a contact where there is both a home and mobile number and the 
home number is listed first.

5.  Now, double tap on the mobile number.

6.  Now, examine the to field.  You will notice that the home number is 
selected.

   This is the case whether you do this inside message or the contacts app.  
See what the problem is?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Do you mean on the iMac or the iPhone? As I have no problem with selecting 
 contacts on the iPhone.
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 09:21 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the 
 content of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille 
 which jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue 
 is better than writing on the Apex!
 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

[Regina Alvarado]

David, I use mbraille so not a problem for me, but I tried putting in the cell 
number from contacts and it went back to the screen to start typing my text. 
When I flicked to the left I found her home number instead of the cell number I 
double tapped on. I looked around the screen, and there were no other numbers. 
Is it supposed to be under the first phone number like an email or can you tell 
me where it is, please? I just do not find it. Thanks.


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On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:53 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

Just go further down the screen to find the other contact number. It is there. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:21, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That is not the bug I am talking about.  I'm talking about not being able to 
 select a contact's mobile number when both a home number and mobile number 
 are present in a contact's information.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just mean you can touch the screen somewhere near the edit field towards 
 the bottom of the screen. Double tapping there then lets you write in the 
 edit field.
 I just don't agree it's that unacceptable in the general scheme of things. 
 Apple fixed a lot in the latest 7.1 release, including elimination of the 
 focus issues when using the on screen keyboard. 
 
 Lisette 
 
 On 14/03/2014, at 9:53 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What do you mean just touching the phone?  That bug is unacceptible and 
 Apple needs to know about it.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain 
 terms that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type 
 your contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message 
 unless you touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there 
 another way of getting to the messaging field where you type the content 
 of the message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Mini mail again

[regina alvarado]

OK everyone, I am truly not understanding. Please give me step-by-step 
instructions on the easiest way to read and delete mail. I have conversations 
together now, although if I understood what Alex wrote yesterday filters will 
put each group in a new folder in Gmail. I do not want this. I just thought 
all conversations from a  group could follow each other in the inbox. Anyway, I 
keep hearing imbedded imbedded when I enter on a mail message and open up the 
conversation, and I seem to have a problem with mail coming in when reading a 
message and messing my reading up. I just feel very incompetent at the moment 
when I thought I at least thought I understood mail! Sorry for going over and 
over this. Thank you for your patience and any help you can give. I don't want 
to be a power user of the Mac, just mail, internet and runningg maybe a few 
apps, but impasse at the moment! (smiles)
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Re: Go Apple

[regina alvarado]

Thank you for this article, and I feel just as you do! Go Tim Cook! What a 
horrible group of people!
Reggie and Allegra
On Mar 1, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Thought you all would like this article.  go Tim Cook!

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/tim-cook-soundly-rejects-politics-of-the-ncppr-suggests-group-sell-apples-s?utm_campaign=tmo_waylf
 

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email question and a question about reading and manipulation of docs n a memory chip

[Regina Alvarado]

I have some questions about mail on Mini and reading from documents on a 
storage chip put in a chip reader.

1. Is there a way to have Ap'ple mail put all of this group's mail together as 
one can in Windows? I would like all mail from each group together. If 
possible, or even if not, is there a way to mark mail conversations for 
deletion and then delete them all at once? In other words, I want to delete 
chunks of email altogether.
2. What are the steps to read from a chip? Where do I find the drive or 
volume, and how do I open up the documents on that volume. How would I copy 
for instance an email address to the clipboard and then paste it into a new 
email? Oh, I bet I can't open anything on this as it was done all in windows, 
right? Well maybe a dumb question, but I'll leave it just in case my thought I 
had just now is incorrect. If there is no way to read or manipulate these 
documents, sorry for my question, but I still need the answer to the first 
question. (smiley) Thanks for any help.



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preview pane?

[Regina Alvarado]

I think I am getting stuck between wording for windows and wording for Apple. 
What is the preview pane and why is it necessary to get around it? I feel 
stupid, but I am still a Mac baby and virtually have no idea what I am doing.



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Re: preview pane?

[Regina Alvarado]

Thank you for the answer, but now this brings up another question. If I got rid 
of the preview pane, how would I read mail? How do you get rid of it? Thanks in 
advance. Just so darned much to learn, and I am still on mail! lol. I think I 
felt like this when I had Windows at first! (smiles) Thanks for the patience 
too.


reggie and Allegra

On Feb 19, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
wrote:

In addition to this, I've found that using the preview pane with braille can be 
tricky.  I'm liking not having it now that I have my braille display.
Cait

 On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I think I am getting stuck between wording for windows and wording for Apple. 
 What is the preview pane and why is it necessary to get around it? I feel 
 stupid, but I am still a Mac baby and virtually have no idea what I am doing.
 
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
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Re: Mail setting

[Regina Alvarado]

This whole mail question is confusing to me. If I tab past the first screen 
when I open mail I see mailboxes, some of which are checked and some not. Why 
is this? What is the check for? Also, if I once get a conversation open, do I 
have to arrow to each post and then do a VO J to read and then do VO J again so 
I can find the next post and delete the one I just read? Is there a smoother 
way to read mail? Are there any settings that would make mail less cumbersome?  
reggie and Allegra

On Feb 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:t

Hi,

As John mentioned, it's likely that your Preview Pane is active.  When the 
Preview Pane is active, the status is usually misread as Mail considers 
something read once the Preview Pane of a message has been opened.  Simply 
arrowing over the message causes the Preview Pane to activate so, from a VO 
prospective, you land on the message to determine if you wish to read it or 
not, and it is subsequently considered Read.  To deal with the Preview Pane,  
I'll paste in some instructions that I figured out back when Mavericks first 
came out:

 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
 physical Trackpad.
 
 You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
 after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
 window.
 
 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
 
 You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
 around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
 after the Messages Column Group.
 
 If it's not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
 Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back to 
 the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
 numerous times.
 
 Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:16 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  What are you trying to view, Brian?  I missed a part of this thread.  Do you 
 have your preview pane showing?  If you are talking about the status of 
 messages being read or unread, you have to collapse the preview pane to get 
 this to read correctly.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately the view menu doesn't offer anything, as the column is there 
 it just stopped saying unread next to the unread messages. Mail in Mavericks 
 is so awful in every aspect, my only conclusion this is Apple's way in to 
 forcing people to only use their iCloud mail accounts, as now I can't even 
 get messages to open half the time when I hit return on a message, and the 
 other half of the time a message will open and say empty scroll area for 20 
 seconds then lose VO focus and eventually get in to the message. Thanks 
 Mavericks I feel like Mac Mail and at least my experience with it has sent 
 computers back 20 years. Feels like I am trying to load a picture on a 56k 
 prodigy account.
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And the view menu there should be a columns area specify what columns are 
 in the view. Check that out.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 Not sure what happened as I haven't changed any settings. In mac mail 
 classic view in Mavericks the first column is status and two days ago it 
 would tell me unread, replied, etc. Now that is gone. I know it is an 
 image that tells you that, but it stopped telling me what was unread. Any 
 idea where this setting might be located? I have looked at mail 
 preferences, Vo verbosity, and a few other settings where it might apply 
 but can't seem to find what has stopped it being read to me. If anyone 
 knows please let me know. Thanks,
 
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Re: messages reappearing in mail after being deleted

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Yes, drove me mad for a while. Go to VO m for menu. Interact with it with 
VO-ENTER down arrow. Now look for viewing and Vo space to ask for it. Tab over 
to a check box that reads something like download similar email and vo space to 
uncheck. That will do it. Apple apparently changed the default, not a happy 
thing for us. Nothing to do with Gmail or mail. Hope this helps.reggie and 
Allegra

On Feb 8, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Dr. Nancy Badger Ph.D. nancywyma...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi,
I am using mac mail with a gmail account. I just deleted several messages. 
However, when I opened the mail window again, they re-appeared. Has this 
happened to anyone else? Any advice about how to keep this from happening?
Thanks
Nancy

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old mail showing up continually

[Regina Alvarado]

Continually receiving the same mail over and over again was explained to me a 
couple of days ago
and it works beautifully. 

It is an Apple default. Vo m and interact. Go to preferences and VO space. Go 
to view and vo space to open it. now tab through until you hear include 
related messages and it will be checked. VO space to uncheck. You will not 
have the problem after you uncheck this option.



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Updating iTunes

[regina alvarado]

Can someone tell me where I can find the iTunes update, please? I went to 
updates, but all I found were app store updates. Also, once I get to the 
update, am I going to have the same problem as others have complained about. I 
have no idea what to uninstall and how  to get things back. I have a month-old 
Mini running OX10. Thanks a bunch. Can I update the apps that are listed? Do I 
have garage band automatically here on my Mini. I have not seen that app and I 
have bought nothing yet.
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facebook and Twitter and flash questions

[Regina Alvarado]

Can Facebook and Twitter be used easily with the Mac or is there an app as 
there is with iPhone? Also, will Adobe flash for Apple let me stream live TV? 
Thanks for the help.



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another question re twitter and facebook

[Regina Alvarado]

Thanks much. Now may I ask what desktop mode is? Thanks.



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Overwhelmed with mail

[regina alvarado]

OK, thought I understood mail. When I ;enter the messages and all load I open 
the conversation with right arrow. Then I down arrow and find the first in the 
conversation. Then I hit VO-J to read text of email. I VO-J to go back to the 
list and delete the email I just read. Then I start the process again. If after 
reading a number of emails and hitting CMD-Q and then going back into messages, 
all the email I just deleted comes back. I am completely inundated. Am I doing 
email correctly? How do I keep email from coming back? Are there any settings I 
should absolutely make to make it easier to do mail? I have gmail in IMAP. It 
reads fine. Do I have to do something in Gmail because it is a new machine? 
Just a little frustrated in FL as I thought I knew what I was doing but 
obviously not!

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iTunes download and iCloud settings on Mini

[Regina Alvarado]

I have nothing on my Mini as I am muddling through still learning rather 
slowly. However, i would like to sync phone and iPad with iTunes. I am thinking 
I need to download the new version. Am I going to run into serious problems, 
and perhaps more importantly, how do I download it? I have iCloud too. Are 
there any settings on Mini I need to know about for that device? I know this is 
a lot to write so if anyone wants to split up the answers, I will understand. 
Thank you so much in advance. 



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mail on Mini not deleting

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Why in the mail app on Mini can I delete messages and still see them on my 
phone? How do you delete? I have a shortened Apple keyboard and my Gmail set on 
IMAP.



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Safari question

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Good morning. Haven’t quite gotten things sound wise the way I want them, but 
getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. When in 
Safari, if I am interacting with the HTML and links, how do I get back to the 
previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work links with the 
tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the toolbar, but not sure of 
command for that, VO something? Thanks.
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Rotor setting not reading where it is set

[regina alvarado]

With quick nag on I hit left and up arrow to change to character to read by 
letter. This did not work. How do I read by character? Thanks! 

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step by step, please and a recommendation on whether need to buy monitor

[Regina Alvarado]

Here I am again asking same question as last night, but I need a step-by-step 
of how to fix so I can lower speech and TV separately. would I be better to get 
a monitor so there was no sound coming through it? If that is not important 
which would cost me a lot for something I will never use, where do I attach 
speakers so they will work independently. We ar struggling to find anything but 
a speaker that is bluetooth, and no matter what I do to pair, it will not with 
speaker and in the meantime my bluetooth keyboard is unpaired. I don't think 
Mini can  take more than one bluetooth device? Anyway, cannot do anything 
learning on my Mini because only control I have is volume on TV remote. Any 
help is more than deeply appreciated.



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where to go from here? macv

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OK, have a pair of speakers. Both my VO and any audio-video is going now 
through the speakers. Found sounds both in system prefs and the VO settings. I 
wish to have control of VO separate from audio-video. Is this possible? Have 
speakers hooked into earphone jack on Mini, if switched to the (forgot the name 
of the cable MVDI?) will I achieve what I want? Please be patient, new to Mini, 
and ex-hubby would have set up, well probably not, could not stand Apple, LOL!! 
Thanks for the help!



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Re: where to go from here? macv

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Thank you so much Alex. I understand now. System prefs I can set for HDMI and 
VO as it is now through speakers! Yay!! No more problems hearing If I am wrong, 
please correct the above.


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On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

The sound output in System Preferences is the master. All output goes through 
there, from Voiceover to iTunes to Youtube. Voiceover's sound output setting is 
Voiceover's alone. If you set the Mini to use the HDMI output for sound, then 
set Voiceover to use headphones, vo will speak through any speakers attached to 
your headphone jack and not through the system default (which would be the 
HDMI). I hope that makes sense.
 On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
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 OK, have a pair of speakers. Both my VO and any audio-video is going now 
 through the speakers. Found sounds both in system prefs and the VO settings. 
 I wish to have control of VO separate from audio-video. Is this possible? 
 Have speakers hooked into earphone jack on Mini, if switched to the (forgot 
 the name of the cable MVDI?) will I achieve what I want? Please be patient, 
 new to Mini, and ex-hubby would have set up, well probably not, could not 
 stand Apple, LOL!! Thanks for the help!
 
 
 
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Re: Maverick tutorial

[Regina Alvarado]

I used these extensively. Everything talked about was there in Mavericks. They 
even say that it is for Mountain Lion but can transfer over to Mavericks. Hope 
this gives some assurance.


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On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote:

I know in the past I have used podcasts from vision Australia on different 
versions of the operating system for the Mac. I have had a hard time finding 
any from vision Australia for Maverick. Does anyone know if they are available?


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Re: quick navigation not working as expected

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 Please explain further. I tried to follow the australian podcast to get 
one-letter navigation on, but apparently I did something wrong. What would this 
setting let me do, and if I need to type something do I have to turn quick nav 
off. Thanks.


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On Jan 15, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
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go to the voice over utility the click commander quick nav  enable single key 
navigation 
 On 15 Jan 2014, at 12:28 am, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Check in the VO Uitlity under Commanders . Quicknav. Be sure all the letters 
 you use are enabled and set correctly.
 On Jan 14, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try toggling quick nav. If this does not work, reset your VoiceOver 
 preferences.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jan 14, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all, 
 Today, when quick navigation is enabled, I can only move between headings 
 using the arrow keys but pressing H doesn’t work. I’ve tried restarting the 
 computer but this doesn’t seem to fix the problem.
 any help is sincerely much appreciated, 
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Re: Moving through tabs and Closing them in Mavericks Safari

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Bringing up questions and more questions. Have Mini to always open in tab, but 
what is the difference between a tab and a new page? Is one better with mac? 
Thanks again for the help and patience with a newby Mini user.


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On Jan 13, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
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i already do that, the only thing i can do is pressing the ctrl option cmd and 
press space bar then going to menu then pressing open in link in a new tab. is 
there a any shortcut for this?
 On 13 Jan 2014, at 04:43 pm, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 This is a link on a page you are auctioning or a link you are typing into the 
 URL bar? If you always want to open a link in a new tab that can be set in 
 preferences under Tabs and set Open pages in tabs instead of windows to 
 Always. If you are in the URL bar you can type in or paste the URL you want 
 to load and hit command-enter instead of just Enter to load that URL into a 
 new tab. Likewise, if you are actioning a link in a page, hit command-enter 
 instead of just enter to open it in a new tab.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/13/14 7:15 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
 i just want to add in here, how to open a link in a new tab?
 On 13 Jan 2014, at 02:59 am, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
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 I am not sure what is the best method. But here is what I do.
 
 Assuming you are in the HTML area. Now deinteract that, which I use 
 Quicknav, by pressing left and down arrow at the same time. Now hit left 
 arrow untill you get to the disired tab. Select it. now cmd w to close. or 
 if you select it just go right and reinteract the HTML area
 Daniel Hawkins
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 Dear List, how do you cycle through tabs in mavericks safari and close 
 them.  In the menus it says command w same as closing a window, but how 
 does it know whether you want the windows closing or the tab within the 
 window closing?  Command W always brings up mission control for me.
  
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hearing and speakers, headphones, TV, monitor, what? Help, please!

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I need some serious help! Currently I am hooked to my TV but could use a 
monitor. Right now I am being driven mad. my TV  sound was blaring. When I used 
the TV remote to turn down the TV, it made VO so I absolutely could not hear 
it. How do I set up to make the 2 entities, Mini and TV work separately? Would 
it be better for me to have a headset and a monitor? Would it be better to have 
a monitor and a speaker set? Right now, the only control I have for volume is 
the remote so I cannot check Netflix. It is either Netflix or the  Mini, not 
both! Thanks for any help. If I don’t use quick nav  do I just navigate in 
Safari with tab and VO-arrows? Ug, headache!  Yay! I just tried the 
command-shift down arrow and took out the rest of my email. Learned something 
today! Thanks to all.
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Cannot find in menu so don't see my posts

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After this question, I won’t bother anyone here again today. (smiles)  I have, 
thanks to everyone here, been through all the mail preferences in the menu. 
Unless I am not recognizing the words, however, there is no place to get mail 
to stop sending my mail back to me. Is there anywhere else to look? 
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Menu in mail?

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Good morning! I went into the mail menu last night. I tried to enter on some of 
the items to see what was available to me to use in the mail client, 
preferences or mail layout, etc. I interacted with for instance general and 
then hit VO space to open it up. Nothing would come up on the menu. Am I in the 
wrong place to find preferences, setup, probably making this clear as mud 
without the right words, LOL. Thanks!

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Re: Menu in mail?

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Kim and hope that is your name, have a problem with hearing and often get names 
incorrectly, sorry! This is system wide, correct? Thank you so much. Opens up a 
lot is is true throughout. (smiley) 
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

When in the Mail Preferences, after pressing VO-Space on the General tab, 
you’ll need to Stop Interacting with the Toolbar, VO-shift-up arrow, then you 
can navigate around the General pane.  Navigating around the Preferences 
window, VO-left of the Toolbar will be the title of the specific Preference 
pane you are in, the title is simply a textual item, not actionable.  That is, 
if you’ve pressed on the Viewing tab from within the Mail Preferences Toolbar, 
then Stop Interacting with the Toolbar, one VO-left arrow will announce 
“Viewing”.  You can then navigate with VO-right through the various elements 
modifying or leaving depending on your preference.  Simply Interact with the 
Toolbar and press on a different tab to see the available settings available in 
that pane.

HTH

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Good morning! I went into the mail menu last night. I tried to enter on some 
 of the items to see what was available to me to use in the mail client, 
 preferences or mail layout, etc. I interacted with for instance general and 
 then hit VO space to open it up. Nothing would come up on the menu. Am I in 
 the wrong place to find preferences, setup, probably making this clear as mud 
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Voices, setting them?

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Help! I wish to change my voices on my Mini to Karen or Samantha. No matter how 
I check and then go through the steppers to set rate, etc. the voices will  not 
show up when I exit the VO menu. I set all  there steppers and looked for an 
OK, but none could be found. I thought just by checking the voice I wanted it 
would stop talking. Do I need to reboot? Can someone give me a quick tutorial 
about which voices do what? I think I am hearing the names correctly, but I am 
not sure what they all do. Thanks in advance for the help! Appreciate the help.
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Re: Voices, setting them?

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Thanks so much Daniel. Much easier than going into the F8 table. Now, how do I 
get VO to read numbers as full numbers and not one at a time. Also in Safari, 
is there a way to go back to the top of a web page to go through the links 
again without going back through the links back to the top? OAlso, can I VO 
spacebar on a link in an email and go into Safari? I tried it and also tried 
enter. It would not go to the page. Thanks again.
Reggie and Allegra







hI enter on a link in an email and go to Safari? I tried it,, so many 
questions, and I have
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Hmm. I have never gone  left of the spacebar which is, cmd, options, ctrl. Now 
with all three keys pressed, use your right or left arrow to cycle thru the 
options, when you get to the voices part, use the up or down to selecct a 
voice. Once done release all keys.
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On Jan 13, 2014, at 6:58 PM, regina alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Help! I wish to change my voices on my Mini to Karen or Samantha. No matter 
 how I check and then go through the steppers to set rate, etc. the voices 
 will  not show up when I exit the VO menu. I set all  there steppers and 
 looked for an OK, but none could be found. I thought just by checking the 
 voice I wanted it would stop talking. Do I need to reboot? Can someone give 
 me a quick tutorial about which voices do what? I think I am hearing the 
 names correctly, but I am not sure what they all do. Thanks in advance for 
 the help! Appreciate the help.
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Re: Today's 30 minutes with VoiceOver

[Regina Alvarado]

April, best command I have learned myself at this point is command Q to close 
everything and command W to close windows. A few days ago I believe Sarai sent 
an article from Mac World. If it did anything for me, it made the layout of the 
screen much more understandable. I even learned what Time Machine was, though 
still don't know how to use. I could resend if you like. I think perhaps you 
are trying to do too much all at once. Maybe you should focus on mail and get 
used to getting into it and reading and writing email until you are 
comfortable. You may even want to tackle only starting the machine and getting 
on the desktop which has another name I forgot. Don't try to learn all commands 
at once. Pick something and become really reliable with it. What I am learning 
is that a lot of times the commands will be the same in different places and 
apps. By the way, I wear hearing aids and have had to tweak my voices to find 
something I can understand. I also don't have a very good memory so little 
chunks of info is all I can handle until cemented into long term memory. I 
thought the Mac was very different from iPhone, but I am finding there is a lot 
of similarity too. I know you can do this. I just will not let it defeat me. 
Took me a long time to learn Windows so it will take a while to change 
operating systems. However, we can do this!


reggie and Allegra

On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:57 PM, April Brown aprilbrownwr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Donna, I am trying to learn VoiceOver. Not successfully.   I still have some 
vision, some days.  I now have a headache.  Thanks to Ray Foret, I can now open 
a web page, I just still can't figure out how to get it to read it without 
clicking where I need it to go.  I have to learn to learn this before I am 
completely blind.  Or perhaps, it would be better for me to not, and use a 
Braille display instead.  However, I will likely retain some hearing at least 
another five to ten years.  I still don't under stand half the words on these 
manuals.   It's Greek and Chinese mixed.  I'm, glad there are people out there 
who have someone to show them how, and the order to do things in.  I can't 
figure it out.  And with poor memory, I'll need it written to ever duplicate it.

 On Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:52:42 PM UTC-5, Donna wrote:
 April,
 
 I can't even imagine what approach you're trying to take here, or why you're 
 taking it.
 
 In the nearly four years I've been using a Mac, I don't think I've *ever 
 turned Voiceover off.  You don't need to clear anything.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:34 PM, April Brown aprilbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The reason for turning VoiceOver off is to clear it, so when I open it back 
 up, it will be back at the beginning, and maybe I can manage to figure out 
 the steps to opening a web page from the bookmarks.  I know it's incorrect.  
 I haven't found directions anywhere.  I just have multiple lists of 
 commands, and no idea what order to put them in.  It's a giant jigsaw 
 puzzle.  I try what you suggest.
 
 Thanks,
 
 April
 .
 
 On Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:29:48 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote:
 April,
 
 First, you are needlessly making far too much work for yourself all for 
 nothing.  Why do you insist you must turn Voice OVer off every time you get 
 out of Safari.  This is quite frankly, unnecessary.  Also, the procedure 
 you are using to try to open bookmarks is completely incorrect.
 
 First, leave Voice OVer on.  DO, NOT, turn it off.
 
 Here’s how to get in to book marks.
 
 1.  Open Safari.
 
 2.  Now, press VO+m to open the menu structure.
 
 3.  Now, press b for book marks.
 
 4.  Now, arrow down in to this menu, and, when ever you hear a book mark 
 folder you want to get in to, press right arrow to expand it.
 
 Want to edit your book Marks?
 
 Do this.
 
 1.  Open safari.
 
 2.  Press Cmd+Option+b.  That gets you in to the edit book marks window.
 
 You should know enough by now to take it from there.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:21 PM, April Brown aprilbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I opened Safari.
 I turned VoiceOver on.
 After a dozen tries, I managed to get it onto the Bookmarks.
 Somehow, as I was transferring my notes to a Pages document, it crashed, 
 and a low, low, grumbling male voice started speaking.
 
 I turned off VoiceOver, closed Safari, and tried again.
 
 Another dozen tries, and I never did get it back on the Bookmarks bar to 
 an actual  bookmark.  The one time I did, it wouldn't click on it, it 
 highlighted and wanted to change it.  Huh?
 
 So, I closed and turned it all off again.  
 
 Then, I opened Safari back up.  Opened up a web page, and turned VoiceOver 
 back on.  Again it got stuck in the menu, and would not get to content.  
 At least, unlike in Firefox, I can click on the region I need read to me, 
 and 

webpage question and a Mini question

[Regina Alvarado]

My question of the day. Last night I was able to get on Netflix. I ask for it 
by command L. I was even able to find a program to watch. I did something with 
my remote, however, and the TV stopped talking again. This morning I played 
around and found my earphones from iPhone will work so I can hear VO. My 
question is, once in a webpage, how can I get back to the top of the page to 
start going through the links again? Also, where is the volume for the whole 
Mini, see all the voice settings for different voices but not a central volume. 
Thanks much in advance for the help.
A grateful new Mini user



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Mac Mini and speaker or only TV

[Regina Alvarado]

I bought a speaker for my Mini. Does it need a TV or monitor or can I use the 
speaker successfully with it? Speaker is a bluetooth. Should I take it back and 
save my money? I have the Mini set up on my TV right now, but I thought it 
might be easier with the speaker. Thanks for any assistance in advance.



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A why, curious

[regina alvarado]

Hmmm. Curious. Just saw my message in my inbox. I am on gmail. Never do my 
messages show on the lists. Why on Mini? Just curious, no problem!
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first mail on Mini

[regina alvarado]

First email on my Mini! Never used the Mac before, so sorry proud of myself! 
Smiles. My brother says this operating system is based on Linux. Does anyone 
know if that is true? It sure is a different system, but I rather like it. On a 
web page, is there a way to go straight to a text as there is in Jaws? Just had 
to share. 
Reggie patting self on back but still much to learn!

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Re: VoiceOver Not Working All of the Sudden

[Regina Alvarado]

I obviously can't help! I am not really truly sure what Mavericks or launch pad 
are, just too new to the Mac, but this happens to me too. Ipad just froze 
overnight and it took 6 hours with Apple support to fix! Empathizing!! I know I 
just didn't help, but understand! My Mini is still not talking either!


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On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

Unreal, everything was working fine for two days after a Mavericks upgrade, and 
now today my computer is unusable with VoiceOver. When trying to read an email 
now VoiceOver is skipping large parts of the text and pausing when trying to 
read an email. It is absolutely unusable. I have cycled VO off and on, and of 
course this took several times to actually work, not sure how a simple one 
press of command F5 used to turn VO on and off now almost every time I want to 
toggle VO off and on it takes at least five presses of these commands to work. 
Additionally, VO reverted to Alex when I had Samantha set as my voice of 
default. I have restarted my machine and am still having VO not properly read 
me an email. If I want to go back and read this email before sending it to the 
list VO will skip a bunch of words, how does that happen from one day to the 
next when I went to bed last night everything was fine. Very frustrating. Just 
went back and tried to read what I typed and had at least 10 pauses and VO skip 
at least 20 words in the email. This is not a product I would suggest to any 
blind user, as obviously there must be a serious stability issue with VO in 
Mavericks. Would love any suggestions or help, but not sure how in one day 
everything can go from being fine to a piece of crap. I have spent the first 
two hours of my morning trying to fix this when I need to be working.

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Re: No VoiceOver or dictation for now.

[Regina Alvarado]

Boy do I understand. Mini when running is totally baffling to me. I have found 
no program or blog or anything that starts from absolute zero. Right now, all I 
want to do is read and answer email, surf and be able to enter in Safari, and 
find out where to transfer files to so I can read them in Pages and work with 
them. Don't feel bad. Right now I can't even get my Mac running again. If it 
wasn't a Christmas gift, want to throw it out the door! Only thing is, patience 
and playing got me where I am with iPhone, and really don't want Mini to defeat 
me so nothing for it but to keep trying!


reggie and Allegra

On Jan 9, 2014, at 8:00 AM, April Brown aprilbrownwr...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for your help!

Since dictation won't do what I need it to do in Pages, I'll try to find 
something that will. Just not right now.  I've still got to many little odd 
things I don't know how to do on my new computer, and it exhausts me trying to 
figure them out.

As for VoiceOver, I tried to run training program three times over the last few 
weeks, and couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do within the program. 
 I printed off a many page document from AppleVis a few days ago, and tried 
that yesterday.  Extremely frustrating.  I was able to get it to work in Pages 
about as well as the regular reading program.  As for on the Internet, not at 
all.  It read the tabs and nothing on the pages.  I'm setting it aside for now.

  Everyone usually comes to me for computer tech advice, reformatting, and 
more.  When I read the comments and questions on this, and other blind computer 
sites, I feel like I'm reading a combination of Greek and Chinese. I'm totally 
lost.

 I'd rather spend the next couple of weeks doing what I can do. Rather than 
spending them trying to figure out how to do something, that a person could 
show me how to do correctly in five minutes.  Somehow there is a missing key 
and I have to figure out what it is. Or better yet, have someone show me.

  In a couple of weeks, I have my tech evaluation for the state. Or maybe 
they're just going to set the date, I'm not sure. It takes forever to get 
through the state program. I've been working on it for six months.

   I'm also slowly learning braille. I figure I will have to use a braille 
display at some point. Talking for the dictation program exhausts me, and makes 
my jaw hurt. Due to hearing loss, I have trouble comprehending spoken words, so 
VoiceOver may not work for me either.

I will keep checking back to learn new computer skills.  At this point, 
I'm not sure I have anything to offer anyone else.  I don't even recognize a 
tenth of the programs mentioned.

Thanks for all your help.
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Re: Mini sadly not running

[Regina Alvarado]

Where do I find a setting to turn password off? With the Mini, can it work 
successfully with a speaker with a volume control and not the TV? Have sighted 
help today is why I ask. Of course, doesn't know Mac! LOL!


reggie and Allegra

On Jan 8, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hello,

I for one never used the password login part. But maybe a few advice that can 
help you on the reliability.

If you get a headphone and if needed a splitter, you can just plug the 
headphone or earbud in and hear what is being said on the Mac. That can elimate 
the problems if tv hav a problem. And maybe it would be good to have a usb 
keyboard for those rare cases that blooth don’t work.

Have you tried to hit cmd and F5? Sometimes Voiceover crashes or just don’t 
work. Just press cmd F5 once. Wait a min and redo the command and wait a few 
min.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

 On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a reliable way to know if you are at the space to put in the 
 password on the Mini? Many things could be wrong I know, but my Mini is not 
 giving a signal when to put password in. I have had to force a shutdown twice 
 after trying to add my password. Afraid it will crash so have not tried 
 again. Thanks for any assistance. I have the Mini going through the TV for 
 sound and have a bluetooth keyboard from Apple. Of course bluetooth could 
 have dropped, TV may not have come on for some reason or maybe I am in the 
 wrong place to put the password, understood, but any thoughts on how I can 
 try and get it running?
 
 
 
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Re: Mini sadly not running

[Regina Alvarado]

Thanks Daniel, Your knowledge has been helpful in a couple of ways over the 
last couple of weeks.


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On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Go to System Preferences, it can be found in dock, or from the apple Menu. Then 
find Users and Groups and look under there.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
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Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Where do I find a setting to turn password off? With the Mini, can it work 
 successfully with a speaker with a volume control and not the TV? Have 
 sighted help today is why I ask. Of course, doesn't know Mac! LOL!
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Jan 8, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I for one never used the password login part. But maybe a few advice that can 
 help you on the reliability.
 
 If you get a headphone and if needed a splitter, you can just plug the 
 headphone or earbud in and hear what is being said on the Mac. That can 
 elimate the problems if tv hav a problem. And maybe it would be good to have 
 a usb keyboard for those rare cases that blooth don’t work.
 
 Have you tried to hit cmd and F5? Sometimes Voiceover crashes or just don’t 
 work. Just press cmd F5 once. Wait a min and redo the command and wait a few 
 min.
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
 On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Is there a reliable way to know if you are at the space to put in the 
 password on the Mini? Many things could be wrong I know, but my Mini is not 
 giving a signal when to put password in. I have had to force a shutdown 
 twice after trying to add my password. Afraid it will crash so have not 
 tried again. Thanks for any assistance. I have the Mini going through the TV 
 for sound and have a bluetooth keyboard from Apple. Of course bluetooth 
 could have dropped, TV may not have come on for some reason or maybe I am in 
 the wrong place to put the password, understood, but any thoughts on how I 
 can try and get it running?
 
 
 
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Mini sadly not running

[Regina Alvarado]

Is there a reliable way to know if you are at the space to put in the password 
on the Mini? Many things could be wrong I know, but my Mini is not giving a 
signal when to put password in. I have had to force a shutdown twice after 
trying to add my password. Afraid it will crash so have not tried again. Thanks 
for any assistance. I have the Mini going through the TV for sound and have a 
bluetooth keyboard from Apple. Of course bluetooth could have dropped, TV may 
not have come on for some reason or maybe I am in the wrong place to put the 
password, understood, but any thoughts on how I can try and get it running?



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