Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hi, It sounds to me that you’re making it more complicated than it actually is. When you pull out your iPhone to do the double-press of the side button, simply make sure that it is facing you and the face recognition will happen instantly, then move the iPhone over beside the reader like you do when using your finger-print. Really, it’s not complicated at all, just slightly different. As Dave mentioned, if the “Attention Aware” feature is disabled, which is the recommendation when VO is on, then you should have no difficulties authenticating with Face ID. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Sep 28, 2021, at 11:07 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hey Dave. I'm finally able to send a reply to your message from last week > because I've reactivated my Apple One subscription. Anyway, the reason I > don't like Face ID is because it seems like it's too complicated. Especially > seeing as how I use Apple Pay every day. From what I've heard, you have to > double press the side button, aim the phone at your face which I'm not good > at doing at all, then aiming the phone at the debit machine to finalize the > purchase. With touch ID, all I have to do is aim my phone at the machine and > use touch ID. Now granted, I could use my Apple Watch which is what I've been > doing ever since I got it, but what if I have to leave my watch at home > because it's charging? That would mean that I would have to struggle with > Face ID which I have no patience to learn how to use. So until Apple forces > me to upgrade, I'm going to stick with my iPhone SE 2020. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Shawn, >> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >> >> Dave Carlson >> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >> >> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >> >> Regards, >> Shawn, >> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >> >> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >> happily add you. >> >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >> >>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>> do not think it has 5G. >>> However, those features are not a priority for me. >>> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the >>> iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >>> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >>> IOS 11 on it. lol &
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Yeah, I have to agree with Dave on this one. Though as I wrote in my earlier post, there are definitely things I dislike about face ID, other than the situations I mentioned before, I don’t have any trouble getting it to unlock. Cheers, Doonna Sent from my iPad > On Sep 29, 2021, at 6:45 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Well Shawn, there are many reasons for why one would not update to new > iPhone hardware. But for simply not wanting to make use of Face ID for that > seems different. You may not be aware of the attention aware feature, that > does not require you stare exactly into the phone to unlock. My iPhone > unlocks immediately when it’s pointing anywhere near my face. > Good luck. > > Dave Carlson > Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker > > On Sep 28, 2021, at 10:07 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hey Dave. I'm finally able to send a reply to your message from last week > because I've reactivated my Apple One subscription. Anyway, the reason I > don't like Face ID is because it seems like it's too complicated. Especially > seeing as how I use Apple Pay every day. From what I've heard, you have to > double press the side button, aim the phone at your face which I'm not good > at doing at all, then aiming the phone at the debit machine to finalize the > purchase. With touch ID, all I have to do is aim my phone at the machine and > use touch ID. Now granted, I could use my Apple Watch which is what I've been > doing ever since I got it, but what if I have to leave my watch at home > because it's charging? That would mean that I would have to struggle with > Face ID which I have no patience to learn how to use. So until Apple forces > me to upgrade, I'm going to stick with my iPhone SE 2020. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: >> >> Shawn, >> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >> >> Dave Carlson >> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >> >> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >> >> Regards, >> Shawn, >> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >> >> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >> happily add you. >> >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >> >>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >>> wrote: >>> >>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>> do not think it has 5G. >>> However, those features are not a priority for me. >>> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the >>> iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >>> Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >>> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >>> IOS 11 on it. lol >>> >>> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >>> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >>> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Take care, &g
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Well Shawn, there are many reasons for why one would not update to new iPhone hardware. But for simply not wanting to make use of Face ID for that seems different. You may not be aware of the attention aware feature, that does not require you stare exactly into the phone to unlock. My iPhone unlocks immediately when it’s pointing anywhere near my face. Good luck. Dave Carlson Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker On Sep 28, 2021, at 10:07 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hey Dave. I'm finally able to send a reply to your message from last week because I've reactivated my Apple One subscription. Anyway, the reason I don't like Face ID is because it seems like it's too complicated. Especially seeing as how I use Apple Pay every day. From what I've heard, you have to double press the side button, aim the phone at your face which I'm not good at doing at all, then aiming the phone at the debit machine to finalize the purchase. With touch ID, all I have to do is aim my phone at the machine and use touch ID. Now granted, I could use my Apple Watch which is what I've been doing ever since I got it, but what if I have to leave my watch at home because it's charging? That would mean that I would have to struggle with Face ID which I have no patience to learn how to use. So until Apple forces me to upgrade, I'm going to stick with my iPhone SE 2020. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Shawn, > What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your > previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using > Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s > actually your reason for your iPhone preference? > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as > long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > >> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >> do not think it has 5G. >> However, those features are not a priority for me. >> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone >> Mini 12 and 13 are out. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hi. >> >> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >> IOS 11 on it. lol >> >> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Take care, >> Tali >> >> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> >> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >>> It is the best iPhone I've owned
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I hope that the next iPhone has Face ID and Touch IDA. From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 1:07 AM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hey Dave. I'm finally able to send a reply to your message from last week because I've reactivated my Apple One subscription. Anyway, the reason I don't like Face ID is because it seems like it's too complicated. Especially seeing as how I use Apple Pay every day. From what I've heard, you have to double press the side button, aim the phone at your face which I'm not good at doing at all, then aiming the phone at the debit machine to finalize the purchase. With touch ID, all I have to do is aim my phone at the machine and use touch ID. Now granted, I could use my Apple Watch which is what I've been doing ever since I got it, but what if I have to leave my watch at home because it's charging? That would mean that I would have to struggle with Face ID which I have no patience to learn how to use. So until Apple forces me to upgrade, I'm going to stick with my iPhone SE 2020. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote: Shawn, What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I love the iPhone SE 2020. It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. It is the best iPhone I've owned. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hey Dave. I'm finally able to send a reply to your message from last week because I've reactivated my Apple One subscription. Anyway, the reason I don't like Face ID is because it seems like it's too complicated. Especially seeing as how I use Apple Pay every day. From what I've heard, you have to double press the side button, aim the phone at your face which I'm not good at doing at all, then aiming the phone at the debit machine to finalize the purchase. With touch ID, all I have to do is aim my phone at the machine and use touch ID. Now granted, I could use my Apple Watch which is what I've been doing ever since I got it, but what if I have to leave my watch at home because it's charging? That would mean that I would have to struggle with Face ID which I have no patience to learn how to use. So until Apple forces me to upgrade, I'm going to stick with my iPhone SE 2020. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Shawn, > What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your > previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using > Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s > actually your reason for your iPhone preference? > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as > long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > >> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >> do not think it has 5G. >> However, those features are not a priority for me. >> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone >> Mini 12 and 13 are out. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hi. >> >> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >> IOS 11 on it. lol >> >> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Take care, >> Tali >> >> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> >> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >>> It is the best iPhone I've owned. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM >>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). >>> My reasons are to do with the to
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Okay, please let us know how the wallet goes with IOS15 if you don’t mind. There are some features I really want to try including the Focus customizations. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I havent used the wallet yet but the app switcher seems to be working fine here. Best, Doug Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:30 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I just upgraded my iPhone XS. I read the list of bug reports on applevis.com, and there was nothing on the list that I would expect to be a serious problem for my use cases. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > Date: Monday, September 20, 2021 at 14:33 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hope you enjoy it, but I would advise you not to upgrade to IOS15 yet because some users have reported problems when using the wallet and the app switcher. From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:31 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) thanks to all of you who’ve responded. I’ve ordered iphone se 2020 - it’s coming tomorrow. Can’t wait. Andrew On 20 Sep 2021, at 07:25, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I love the iPhone SE 2020. It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. It is the best iPhone I've owned. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:cara
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I havent used the wallet yet but the app switcher seems to be working fine here. Best, Doug Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:30 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > I just upgraded my iPhone XS. I read the list of bug reports on applevis.com, > and there was nothing on the list that I would expect to be a serious problem > for my use cases. > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on > behalf of skipper8...@gmail.com > Date: Monday, September 20, 2021 at 14:33 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hope you enjoy it, but I would advise you not to upgrade to IOS15 yet because > some users have reported problems when using the wallet and the app switcher. > > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:31 PM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > thanks to all of you who’ve responded. I’ve ordered iphone se 2020 - it’s > coming tomorrow. Can’t wait. > > Andrew > > > On 20 Sep 2021, at 07:25, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as > long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > > > On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, > wrote: > > The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. > The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do > not think it has 5G. > However, those features are not a priority for me. > I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone > Mini 12 and 13 are out. > > -Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hi. > > I must say I am very happy with mine too. > When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using > IOS 11 on it. lol > > It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. > I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external > speaker. The sound quality is quite good. > > Hope this helps. > > Take care, > Tali > > On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > I love the iPhone SE 2020. > It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. > It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. > It is the best iPhone I've owned. > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hello, > > I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). > My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to > share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, &
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I just upgraded my iPhone XS. I read the list of bug reports on applevis.com, and there was nothing on the list that I would expect to be a serious problem for my use cases. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of skipper8...@gmail.com Date: Monday, September 20, 2021 at 14:33To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)Hope you enjoy it, but I would advise you not to upgrade to IOS15 yet because some users have reported problems when using the wallet and the app switcher. From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:31 PMTo: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) thanks to all of you who’ve responded. I’ve ordered iphone se 2020 - it’s coming tomorrow. Can’t wait. Andrew On 20 Sep 2021, at 07:25, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards,Shawn,Sent from Sophia, the MacBook AirWant to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you.Facebook Username: Shawn KrasniukTwitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbsSkype username: bbstheblindrapperFacetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, <skipper8...@gmail.com> <skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad.The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G.However, those features are not a priority for me.I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out.-Original Message-From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tali SarnetzkySent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PMTo: macvisionaries@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)Hi.I must say I am very happy with mine too.When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lolIt's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it.I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good.Hope this helps.Take care,TaliOn 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote:I love the iPhone SE 2020.It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery.It is the best iPhone I've owned.-Original Message-From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PMTo: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)Hello,I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020).My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me?Andrew--The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at:mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com.--The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at:mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/03d
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Looking forward to that! Cheers, Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:59 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > It’s probably a real estate issue. The iPads are both thicker and bigger > than an iPhone, thus there are more components crammed into a smaller > footprint. Supposedly by the iPhone 15, in 2023, there will be under glass > finger-print recognition. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:56 AM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I agree with you, and this is why I didn’t even consider the new iPhone Mini. >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:32 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. >> >> The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new >> iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on >> the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Okay. >>> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >>> >>> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >>>> >>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>> >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >>>> >>>> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >>>> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >>>> >>>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >>>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >>>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >>>> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >>>> >>>> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >>>> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re >>>> wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the >>>> phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not >>>> faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then >>>> unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a >>>> while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is >>>> when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, >>>> and Face ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times >>>> I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having >>>> the lighting wash out my screen. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson >>>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Shawn, >>>>> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on yo
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hope you enjoy it, but I would advise you not to upgrade to IOS15 yet because some users have reported problems when using the wallet and the app switcher. From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:31 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) thanks to all of you who’ve responded. I’ve ordered iphone se 2020 - it’s coming tomorrow. Can’t wait. Andrew On 20 Sep 2021, at 07:25, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I love the iPhone SE 2020. It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. It is the best iPhone I've owned. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegro
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
thanks to all of you who’ve responded. I’ve ordered iphone se 2020 - it’s coming tomorrow. Can’t wait. Andrew > On 20 Sep 2021, at 07:25, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as > long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > >> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >> do not think it has 5G. >> However, those features are not a priority for me. >> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone >> Mini 12 and 13 are out. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hi. >> >> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >> IOS 11 on it. lol >> >> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Take care, >> Tali >> >> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> >> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >>> It is the best iPhone I've owned. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM >>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). >>> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to >>> share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >>> can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >&
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Interesting. I did the process to use a mask, and it was not as easy as just doing the original Face ID setup. But I got it to work, and it does work now with a mask. Thanks for the tip. Dave Carlson Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:46 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi, Oops, forgot to add the following link to my earlier info. https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/31/iphone-how-to-use-face-id-with-mask/ <https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/31/iphone-how-to-use-face-id-with-mask/> This link gives you some ideas on how to best deal with Face ID and mask wearing at this point. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Hi, > > FaceID recognition is very fast in the newer iPhone models. As long as your > face is around 20 to 80 cm (8 to 36 inches) away from your face, the > recognition speed is amazingly fast and accurate. If you have an Apple > Watch, then wearing a mask is not an issue. If your watch is on your wrist, > is connected to your iPhone, and has a pass-code, then the iPhone will just > unlock as it recognizes that you have the watch and a partial face > recognition. The iPhone will also instantly ask for your pass-code if it > recognizes that you’re wearing a mask and do not have an Apple Watch. > > All this being said, yes, a properly working finger-print sensor would likely > be quicker if you do not have the Apple Watch scenario, but just thought I’d > throw some info into the mix. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. >> >> The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new >> iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on >> the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Okay. >>> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >>> >>> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >>>> >>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>> >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >>>> >>>> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >>>> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >>>> >>>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >>>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >>>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >>>> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >>>> >>>> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >>>> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re >>>> wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the >>>> phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not >>>> faste
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hmm. Maybe I’ll give it another try. I just remember that it felt like I was constantly having to enter the pass code. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:01 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > That’s odd. The pass-code, when enabled is only required when you first put > the watch on. There should be no need to enter the pass-code any other time. > So, for example, after my shower in the morning, I put my watch back on, it > asks for the pass-code which I enter. From then on, the entire day long, I > do not need to enter the watch pass-code ever and I use the watch for > workouts, time checking and more throughout the day. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:57 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hey Tim, >> >> I did try setting up my watch to unlock my phone, but got tired of having to >> enter the pass code every time I wanted to check the time, so turned the >> feature off. :) >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> FaceID recognition is very fast in the newer iPhone models. As long as >>> your face is around 20 to 80 cm (8 to 36 inches) away from your face, the >>> recognition speed is amazingly fast and accurate. If you have an Apple >>> Watch, then wearing a mask is not an issue. If your watch is on your >>> wrist, is connected to your iPhone, and has a pass-code, then the iPhone >>> will just unlock as it recognizes that you have the watch and a partial >>> face recognition. The iPhone will also instantly ask for your pass-code if >>> it recognizes that you’re wearing a mask and do not have an Apple Watch. >>> >>> All this being said, yes, a properly working finger-print sensor would >>> likely be quicker if you do not have the Apple Watch scenario, but just >>> thought I’d throw some info into the mix. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. >>>> >>>> The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new >>>> iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that >>>> on the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, >>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Okay. >>>>> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>>> >>>>> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer >>>>>> gestures? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> &g
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hi, That’s odd. The pass-code, when enabled is only required when you first put the watch on. There should be no need to enter the pass-code any other time. So, for example, after my shower in the morning, I put my watch back on, it asks for the pass-code which I enter. From then on, the entire day long, I do not need to enter the watch pass-code ever and I use the watch for workouts, time checking and more throughout the day. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:57 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hey Tim, > > I did try setting up my watch to unlock my phone, but got tired of having to > enter the pass code every time I wanted to check the time, so turned the > feature off. :) > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> FaceID recognition is very fast in the newer iPhone models. As long as your >> face is around 20 to 80 cm (8 to 36 inches) away from your face, the >> recognition speed is amazingly fast and accurate. If you have an Apple >> Watch, then wearing a mask is not an issue. If your watch is on your wrist, >> is connected to your iPhone, and has a pass-code, then the iPhone will just >> unlock as it recognizes that you have the watch and a partial face >> recognition. The iPhone will also instantly ask for your pass-code if it >> recognizes that you’re wearing a mask and do not have an Apple Watch. >> >> All this being said, yes, a properly working finger-print sensor would >> likely be quicker if you do not have the Apple Watch scenario, but just >> thought I’d throw some info into the mix. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. >>> >>> The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new >>> iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on >>> the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay. >>>> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >>>> >>>> >>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>> >>>> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer >>>>> gestures? >>>>> >>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>> >>>>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >>>>> >>>>> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came >>>>> out, so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >>>>> >>>>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >>>>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >>>>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Given the situation we are in, I think Apple should have included Touch ID on the new phones. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I'm still on the fence. I’m leaning toward upgrading, but the lack of Touch ID would be the thing that would keep me from doing it. Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:56 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I agree with you, and this is why I didn’t even consider the new iPhone Mini. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: Okay. Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi Dave, Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting wash out my screen. Cheers, Donna. On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote: Shawn, What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updat
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hi, It’s probably a real estate issue. The iPads are both thicker and bigger than an iPhone, thus there are more components crammed into a smaller footprint. Supposedly by the iPhone 15, in 2023, there will be under glass finger-print recognition. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:56 AM, > wrote: > > I agree with you, and this is why I didn’t even consider the new iPhone Mini. > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:32 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. > > The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new iPads > come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on the > iPads, why not also build it into the phones? > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Okay. >> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >> >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >> Donna >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >>> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >>> >>> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >>> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >>> >>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >>> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >>> >>> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >>> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing >>> a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, >>> which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster >>> by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock >>> the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, >>> so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when >>> I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face >>> ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to >>> contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting >>> wash out my screen. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson >>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Shawn, >>>> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >>>> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >>>> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >>>> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >>>> >>>> Dave Carlson >>>> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>>> >>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I'm still on the fence. I’m leaning toward upgrading, but the lack of Touch ID would be the thing that would keep me from doing it. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:56 AM, > wrote: > > I agree with you, and this is why I didn’t even consider the new iPhone Mini. > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:32 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. > > The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new iPads > come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on the > iPads, why not also build it into the phones? > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Okay. >> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >> >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >> Donna >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >>> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >>> >>> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >>> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >>> >>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >>> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >>> >>> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >>> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing >>> a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, >>> which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster >>> by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock >>> the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, >>> so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when >>> I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face >>> ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to >>> contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting >>> wash out my screen. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson >>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Shawn, >>>> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >>>> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >>>> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >>>> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >>>> >>>> Dave Carlson >>>> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>>> >>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >>>> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Shawn, >>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>>> >>>> Want
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hey Tim, I did try setting up my watch to unlock my phone, but got tired of having to enter the pass code every time I wanted to check the time, so turned the feature off. :) Cheers, Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > FaceID recognition is very fast in the newer iPhone models. As long as your > face is around 20 to 80 cm (8 to 36 inches) away from your face, the > recognition speed is amazingly fast and accurate. If you have an Apple > Watch, then wearing a mask is not an issue. If your watch is on your wrist, > is connected to your iPhone, and has a pass-code, then the iPhone will just > unlock as it recognizes that you have the watch and a partial face > recognition. The iPhone will also instantly ask for your pass-code if it > recognizes that you’re wearing a mask and do not have an Apple Watch. > > All this being said, yes, a properly working finger-print sensor would likely > be quicker if you do not have the Apple Watch scenario, but just thought I’d > throw some info into the mix. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. >> >> The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new >> iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on >> the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Okay. >>> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >>> >>> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >>>> >>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>> >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >>>> >>>> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >>>> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >>>> >>>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >>>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >>>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >>>> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >>>> >>>> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >>>> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re >>>> wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the >>>> phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not >>>> faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then >>>> unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a >>>> while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is >>>> when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, >>>> and Face ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times >>>> I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having >>>> the lighting wash out my screen. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna. >>>> >>>> >&
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I agree with you, and this is why I didn’t even consider the new iPhone Mini. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: Okay. Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi Dave, Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting wash out my screen. Cheers, Donna. On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote: Shawn, What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening t
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Yeah, but that’s different from just turning off Face ID. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Actually, if Face ID does fail, you are presented with the passcode keyboard > automatically. > > Dave Carlson > Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Okay. > Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? > > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. > Donna > > > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >> >> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >> >> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >> >> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing >> a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, >> which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by >> the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the >> phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so >> that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in >> bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID >> doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to >> contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting >> wash out my screen. >> Cheers, >> Donna. >> >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson >> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Shawn, >>> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >>> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >>> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >>> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >>> >>> Dave Carlson >>> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >>> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Shawn, >>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>> >>> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >>> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >>> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >>> happily add you. >>> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>>> do not think it ha
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hi, Oops, forgot to add the following link to my earlier info. https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/31/iphone-how-to-use-face-id-with-mask/ <https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/31/iphone-how-to-use-face-id-with-mask/> This link gives you some ideas on how to best deal with Face ID and mask wearing at this point. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > FaceID recognition is very fast in the newer iPhone models. As long as your > face is around 20 to 80 cm (8 to 36 inches) away from your face, the > recognition speed is amazingly fast and accurate. If you have an Apple > Watch, then wearing a mask is not an issue. If your watch is on your wrist, > is connected to your iPhone, and has a pass-code, then the iPhone will just > unlock as it recognizes that you have the watch and a partial face > recognition. The iPhone will also instantly ask for your pass-code if it > recognizes that you’re wearing a mask and do not have an Apple Watch. > > All this being said, yes, a properly working finger-print sensor would likely > be quicker if you do not have the Apple Watch scenario, but just thought I’d > throw some info into the mix. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. >> >> The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new >> iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on >> the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Okay. >>> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >>> >>> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >>>> >>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>> >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >>>> >>>> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >>>> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >>>> >>>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >>>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >>>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >>>> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >>>> >>>> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >>>> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re >>>> wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the >>>> phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not >>>> faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then >>>> unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a >>>> while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is >>>> when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, >>>> and Face ID doesn’t work at all.
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hi, FaceID recognition is very fast in the newer iPhone models. As long as your face is around 20 to 80 cm (8 to 36 inches) away from your face, the recognition speed is amazingly fast and accurate. If you have an Apple Watch, then wearing a mask is not an issue. If your watch is on your wrist, is connected to your iPhone, and has a pass-code, then the iPhone will just unlock as it recognizes that you have the watch and a partial face recognition. The iPhone will also instantly ask for your pass-code if it recognizes that you’re wearing a mask and do not have an Apple Watch. All this being said, yes, a properly working finger-print sensor would likely be quicker if you do not have the Apple Watch scenario, but just thought I’d throw some info into the mix. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. > > The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new iPads > come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on the > iPads, why not also build it into the phones? > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Okay. >> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? >> >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. >> Donna >> >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >>> >>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >>> >>> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >>> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >>> >>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >>> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >>> >>> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >>> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing >>> a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, >>> which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster >>> by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock >>> the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, >>> so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when >>> I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face >>> ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to >>> contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting >>> wash out my screen. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson >>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Shawn, >>>> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >>>> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >>>> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >>>> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >>>> >>>> Dave Carlson >>>> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>>> >>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>>>
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Actually, if Face ID does fail, you are presented with the passcode keyboard automatically. Dave Carlson Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, wrote: Okay. Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hi Dave, > > Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. > > First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, so > I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. > > As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I can’t > unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I could > unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it was > situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. > > Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in which > Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing a mask, > requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, which > harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by the > time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the phone. > And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so that’s a > great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in bright > sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID doesn’t work > at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to contort my body > into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting wash out my screen. > Cheers, > Donna. > > > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Shawn, >> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >> >> Dave Carlson >> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >> >> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >> >> Regards, >> Shawn, >> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >> >> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >> happily add you. >> >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>> do not think it has 5G. >>> However, those features are not a priority for me. >>> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the >>> iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I must say I am very happy with mi
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID. The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button. If they can do that on the iPads, why not also build it into the phones? Cheers, Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, > wrote: > > Okay. > Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? > > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. > Donna > > > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. >> >> First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, >> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. >> >> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I >> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I >> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it >> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. >> >> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in >> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing >> a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, >> which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by >> the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the >> phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so >> that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in >> bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID >> doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to >> contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting >> wash out my screen. >> Cheers, >> Donna. >> >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson >> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Shawn, >>> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >>> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >>> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >>> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >>> >>> Dave Carlson >>> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >>> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Shawn, >>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>> >>> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >>> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >>> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >>> happily add you. >>> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>>> do not think it has 5G. >>>> However, those features are not a priority for me. >>>> I just hope that it will continue t
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Okay. Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode? From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi Dave, Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting wash out my screen. Cheers, Donna. On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote: Shawn, What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I love the iPhone SE 2020. It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. It is the best iPhone I've owned. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone. Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hi Dave, > > Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. > > First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, so > I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. > > As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I can’t > unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I could > unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it was > situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. > > Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in which > Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing a mask, > requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, which > harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by the > time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the phone. > And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so that’s a > great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in bright > sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID doesn’t work > at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to contort my body > into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting wash out my screen. > Cheers, > Donna. > > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Shawn, >> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your >> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than >> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button >> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? >> >> Dave Carlson >> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >> >> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >> >> Regards, >> Shawn, >> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >> >> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >> happily add you. >> >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >> >> >>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>> do not think it has 5G. >>> However, those features are not a priority for me. >>> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the >>> iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >>> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >>> IOS 11 on it. lol >>> >>> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >>> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >>> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Take care, >>> Tali >>> >>> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Donna, Had no idea about the washout. Good point. Dave Carlson Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:34 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Dave, Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting wash out my screen. Cheers, Donna. > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Shawn, > What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your > previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using > Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s > actually your reason for your iPhone preference? > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as > long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > >> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >> do not think it has 5G. >> However, those features are not a priority for me. >> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone >> Mini 12 and 13 are out. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hi. >> >> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >> IOS 11 on it. lol >> >> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Take care, >> Tali >> >> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> >> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >>> It is the best iPhone I've owned. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM >>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures? From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi Dave, Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting wash out my screen. Cheers, Donna. On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote: Shawn, What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I love the iPhone SE 2020. It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. It is the best iPhone I've owned. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Ma
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hi Dave, Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this. First, I do like the Home button. I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button. As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience. With face ID, I can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face. With Touch ID, I could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked. Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster. It’s not faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then unlock the phone. And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID. The other issue I have is when I’m in bright sunlight. In that situation, the screen washes out, and Face ID doesn’t work at all. I can’t begin to guess how many times I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having the lighting wash out my screen. Cheers, Donna. > On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Shawn, > What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your > previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using > Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s > actually your reason for your iPhone preference? > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as > long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > >> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >> do not think it has 5G. >> However, those features are not a priority for me. >> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone >> Mini 12 and 13 are out. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hi. >> >> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >> IOS 11 on it. lol >> >> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Take care, >> Tali >> >> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> >> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >>> It is the best iPhone I've owned. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM >>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). >>> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to >>> share y
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Shawn, What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference? Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. > The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do > not think it has 5G. > However, those features are not a priority for me. > I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone > Mini 12 and 13 are out. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hi. > > I must say I am very happy with mine too. > When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using > IOS 11 on it. lol > > It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. > I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external > speaker. The sound quality is quite good. > > Hope this helps. > > Take care, > Tali > > On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >> It is the best iPhone I've owned. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM >> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hello, >> >> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). >> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to >> share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? >> >> Andrew >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list mode
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Makes sense, but I am buying unlocked phones so I do not have the same type of incentives that you do. I know some people do AT for a living so having the latest phone can be an essential part of the business. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) The other thing for me is that upgrading is kind of the gift that keeps on giving. I really do get a crazy good price on a new phone from my employer. Part of that is based on trading in my old phone. So, this year, for example, I’ll get much more for trading in a 12 than I would for trading in an 11 or an SE, which in turn, reduces the price on the new phone. So staying with the current model pays off. Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: Good point about the OCR and other apps that use artificial intelligence and the neural engine. I have not noticed any significant lag when VoiceOver tries to describe images in apps using the SE 2020 IN IOS 14. I’d consider the Mini iPhones if it had touch ID. That is more important to me than power since I have a M1 mac and a Windows PC capable of scanning documents. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I think this is very much a question of personal preference. I understand what you’re saying, but I like my devices to run fast. Patience is not one of my greatest virtues. So, is there any app that wouldn’t run on the SE? Probably not. Will those apps run faster on a 13 mini? Undoubtedly. And personally, that’s something I care about. Not saying everyone has to care about that, but I do. Also, as Apple does more with screen recognition, AI, and spatial audio, the more powerful phones will be able to make better use of those features. Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:05 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: Why do you feel you need the extra power? I find the SE very responsive, and sometimes users do not need the latest phones to accomplish the tasks they need. Is there an app that you can’t run on the SE? Apple is like any other company in that they can’t produce something new every year that no one has seen before. Sometimes, it is just upgrades. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a good idea to pause and ask yourself if this is really something worth buying based on your own needs. The older iPad 5th generation was something new that I had not used before, and I wanted something with better sound quality. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I have to say that my biggest disappointment in Apple’s presentation last week was that the new phones won’t have touch ID. I have the 12 mini, and I’ll probably upgrade to the 13 mini, but only because I get a good upgrade price through my employer. Were it not for that, I’d probably not upgrade. I just can’t justify switching to the SE, because it’s got so much less power than the other phones. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:25 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarn
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
The other thing for me is that upgrading is kind of the gift that keeps on giving. I really do get a crazy good price on a new phone from my employer. Part of that is based on trading in my old phone. So, this year, for example, I’ll get much more for trading in a 12 than I would for trading in an 11 or an SE, which in turn, reduces the price on the new phone. So staying with the current model pays off. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, > wrote: > > Good point about the OCR and other apps that use artificial intelligence and > the neural engine. > I have not noticed any significant lag when VoiceOver tries to describe > images in apps using the SE 2020 IN IOS 14. > I’d consider the Mini iPhones if it had touch ID. > That is more important to me than power since I have a M1 mac and a Windows > PC capable of scanning documents. > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:24 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > I think this is very much a question of personal preference. I understand > what you’re saying, but I like my devices to run fast. Patience is not one > of my greatest virtues. So, is there any app that wouldn’t run on the SE? > Probably not. Will those apps run faster on a 13 mini? Undoubtedly. And > personally, that’s something I care about. Not saying everyone has to care > about that, but I do. Also, as Apple does more with screen recognition, AI, > and spatial audio, the more powerful phones will be able to make better use > of those features. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:05 AM, > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Why do you feel you need the extra power? >> I find the SE very responsive, and sometimes users do not need the latest >> phones to accomplish the tasks they need. >> Is there an app that you can’t run on the SE? >> Apple is like any other company in that they can’t produce something new >> every year that no one has seen before. >> Sometimes, it is just upgrades. >> There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a good idea to pause and ask >> yourself if this is really something worth buying based on your own needs. >> The older iPad 5th generation was something new that I had not used before, >> and I wanted something with better sound quality. >> >> >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:57 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> I have to say that my biggest disappointment in Apple’s presentation last >> week was that the new phones won’t have touch ID. I have the 12 mini, and >> I’ll probably upgrade to the 13 mini, but only because I get a good upgrade >> price through my employer. Were it not for that, I’d probably not upgrade. >> I just can’t justify switching to the SE, because it’s got so much less >> power than the other phones. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:25 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >>> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Shawn, >>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>> >>> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >>> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >>> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >>> happily add you. >>> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>>> do no
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Good point about the OCR and other apps that use artificial intelligence and the neural engine. I have not noticed any significant lag when VoiceOver tries to describe images in apps using the SE 2020 IN IOS 14. I’d consider the Mini iPhones if it had touch ID. That is more important to me than power since I have a M1 mac and a Windows PC capable of scanning documents. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I think this is very much a question of personal preference. I understand what you’re saying, but I like my devices to run fast. Patience is not one of my greatest virtues. So, is there any app that wouldn’t run on the SE? Probably not. Will those apps run faster on a 13 mini? Undoubtedly. And personally, that’s something I care about. Not saying everyone has to care about that, but I do. Also, as Apple does more with screen recognition, AI, and spatial audio, the more powerful phones will be able to make better use of those features. Cheers, Donna On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:05 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: Why do you feel you need the extra power? I find the SE very responsive, and sometimes users do not need the latest phones to accomplish the tasks they need. Is there an app that you can’t run on the SE? Apple is like any other company in that they can’t produce something new every year that no one has seen before. Sometimes, it is just upgrades. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a good idea to pause and ask yourself if this is really something worth buying based on your own needs. The older iPad 5th generation was something new that I had not used before, and I wanted something with better sound quality. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I have to say that my biggest disappointment in Apple’s presentation last week was that the new phones won’t have touch ID. I have the 12 mini, and I’ll probably upgrade to the 13 mini, but only because I get a good upgrade price through my employer. Were it not for that, I’d probably not upgrade. I just can’t justify switching to the SE, because it’s got so much less power than the other phones. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:25 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I love the iPhone SE 2020. It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. It is the best iPhone I've owned. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegro
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I think this is very much a question of personal preference. I understand what you’re saying, but I like my devices to run fast. Patience is not one of my greatest virtues. So, is there any app that wouldn’t run on the SE? Probably not. Will those apps run faster on a 13 mini? Undoubtedly. And personally, that’s something I care about. Not saying everyone has to care about that, but I do. Also, as Apple does more with screen recognition, AI, and spatial audio, the more powerful phones will be able to make better use of those features. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:05 AM, > wrote: > > Why do you feel you need the extra power? > I find the SE very responsive, and sometimes users do not need the latest > phones to accomplish the tasks they need. > Is there an app that you can’t run on the SE? > Apple is like any other company in that they can’t produce something new > every year that no one has seen before. > Sometimes, it is just upgrades. > There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a good idea to pause and ask > yourself if this is really something worth buying based on your own needs. > The older iPad 5th generation was something new that I had not used before, > and I wanted something with better sound quality. > > > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:57 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > I have to say that my biggest disappointment in Apple’s presentation last > week was that the new phones won’t have touch ID. I have the 12 mini, and > I’ll probably upgrade to the 13 mini, but only because I get a good upgrade > price through my employer. Were it not for that, I’d probably not upgrade. > I just can’t justify switching to the SE, because it’s got so much less power > than the other phones. > Cheers, > Donna > > Sent from my iPad > > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:25 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >> >> Regards, >> Shawn, >> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >> >> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >> happily add you. >> >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >> >> >>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>> do not think it has 5G. >>> However, those features are not a priority for me. >>> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the >>> iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >>> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >>> IOS 11 on it. lol >>> >>> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >>> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >>> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Take care, >>> Tali >>> >>> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> >>> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >>>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >>>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >>>> It is
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Why do you feel you need the extra power? I find the SE very responsive, and sometimes users do not need the latest phones to accomplish the tasks they need. Is there an app that you can’t run on the SE? Apple is like any other company in that they can’t produce something new every year that no one has seen before. Sometimes, it is just upgrades. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a good idea to pause and ask yourself if this is really something worth buying based on your own needs. The older iPad 5th generation was something new that I had not used before, and I wanted something with better sound quality. From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) I have to say that my biggest disappointment in Apple’s presentation last week was that the new phones won’t have touch ID. I have the 12 mini, and I’ll probably upgrade to the 13 mini, but only because I get a good upgrade price through my employer. Were it not for that, I’d probably not upgrade. I just can’t justify switching to the SE, because it’s got so much less power than the other phones. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:25 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: I love the iPhone SE 2020. It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. It is the best iPhone I've owned. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I have to say that my biggest disappointment in Apple’s presentation last week was that the new phones won’t have touch ID. I have the 12 mini, and I’ll probably upgrade to the 13 mini, but only because I get a good upgrade price through my employer. Were it not for that, I’d probably not upgrade. I just can’t justify switching to the SE, because it’s got so much less power than the other phones. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:25 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as > long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with > your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add > you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > >> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, >> wrote: >> >> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >> do not think it has 5G. >> However, those features are not a priority for me. >> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone >> Mini 12 and 13 are out. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >> Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hi. >> >> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >> IOS 11 on it. lol >> >> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Take care, >> Tali >> >>> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >>> It is the best iPhone I've owned. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>> >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM >>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). >>> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to >>> share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> You
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, > wrote: > > The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. > The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do > not think it has 5G. > However, those features are not a priority for me. > I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone > Mini 12 and 13 are out. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hi. > > I must say I am very happy with mine too. > When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using > IOS 11 on it. lol > > It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. > I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external > speaker. The sound quality is quite good. > > Hope this helps. > > Take care, > Tali > > On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: >> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >> It is the best iPhone I've owned. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> >> >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM >> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> Hello, >> >> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). >> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to >> share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? >> >> Andrew >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/03d901d7acd7%24ab8f2470%2402ad6d50%24%40gmail.com. >> > > > -- > My first book on Kindle, (now accessible!), The View From Here, can be found > at: > www.amazon.com/dp/B009ESXJAW > > -- > The following information is i
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do not think it has 5G. However, those features are not a priority for me. I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > I love the iPhone SE 2020. > It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. > It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. > It is the best iPhone I've owned. > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hello, > > I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). > My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to > share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/03d901d7acd7%24ab8f2470%2402ad6d50%24%40gmail.com. > -- My first book on Kindle, (now accessible!), The View From Here, can be found at: www.amazon.com/dp/B009ESXJAW -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAE5Z%2Bd2z0p%2B2s8rvRMvkYGVeEFM07-577557gesHVgAfw7dRUg%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questio
Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hi. I must say I am very happy with mine too. When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 11 on it. lol It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external speaker. The sound quality is quite good. Hope this helps. Take care, Tali On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > I love the iPhone SE 2020. > It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. > It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. > It is the best iPhone I've owned. > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > Hello, > > I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). > My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share > your views/opinions on this iphone with me? > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/03d901d7acd7%24ab8f2470%2402ad6d50%24%40gmail.com. > -- My first book on Kindle, (now accessible!), The View From Here, can be found at: www.amazon.com/dp/B009ESXJAW -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAE5Z%2Bd2z0p%2B2s8rvRMvkYGVeEFM07-577557gesHVgAfw7dRUg%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I love the iPhone SE 2020. It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. It is the best iPhone I've owned. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/03d901d7acd7%24ab8f2470%2402ad6d50%24%40gmail.com.
RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
I got mine shortly after it came out, and I am very happy I did it. It's very snappy in terms of response, and has done everything I've asked it to with no complaints. I occasionally like to shoot video for my sighted wife, and I love how you can set the phone up to landscape and get true stereo sound as well. So my wife gets to see the visual, and I get to hear neat audio. I don't download much stuff, so the 64GB model was just fine for my needs. If you have any more specific questions, just ask. Pete -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 2:20 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/022c01d7acd6%249bf3e470%24d3dbad50%24%40gmail.com.
IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
Hello, I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. Would you be happy to share your views/opinions on this iphone with me? Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2B7E090B-B7EF-488D-842D-2FADEC63CDB1%40me.com.
