RE: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[george b]

Joe here is a start for them 

A list of stores from google below

 

https://www.google.com/search?site= 

 
=hp=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california_l=hp.3...1373.13737.0.14149.45.34.0.11.11.0.129.2510.32j2.34.00...1c.1.64.hp..5.40.2563.IqurKAJLCSs

 

hth

 

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On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 20:02
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Subject: Re: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

George, she's in Stockton California

On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, george b  > wrote:

 

We need to know what area

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph hudson
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Subject: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live in 
California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. She 
knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others that I 
can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, and she 
already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7...@gmail.com  

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

Twitter

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RE: Curious About Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[george b]

Can I inport my quicken account into checkbook pro?

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Hi:
I use Checkbook Pro. I love it! The software is completely accessible. Splasm 
customer service is awesome. I’ve beta tested some for thim in regards to 
Voiceover.
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
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> I’ve been looking for an OSX app that is generally similar to the Windows 
> “Talking Checkbook” and have found “Checkbook” and “Checkbook Pro” so far.  
> After reading the descriptions for these apps that the “Pro” version is 
> probably more than I need.  I do have several questions about both or either 
> versions:
> 
> - Is anyone out here a user of either version?
> - Are these apps effectively developed to work with VoiceOver?
> - Is customer support genuinely responsive to the requirements of blind 
> customers?
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
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Re: Curious About Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I use Checkbook Pro. I love it! The software is completely accessible. Splasm 
customer service is awesome. I’ve beta tested some for thim in regards to 
Voiceover.
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
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> I’ve been looking for an OSX app that is generally similar to the Windows 
> “Talking Checkbook” and have found “Checkbook” and “Checkbook Pro” so far.  
> After reading the descriptions for these apps that the “Pro” version is 
> probably more than I need.  I do have several questions about both or either 
> versions:
> 
> - Is anyone out here a user of either version?
> - Are these apps effectively developed to work with VoiceOver?
> - Is customer support genuinely responsive to the requirements of blind 
> customers?
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
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RE: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[george b]

Scott email me off list I removed v m from my m b p 13 and wish to pick your 
brain what is left of it.

Thqanks

Go 49er's beat those rams

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It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten very 
good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know some on 
list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a lot to be 
desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who started with 
Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten so much easier to 
use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while in the VM through 
voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and shutdown of VMs, the 
windows initial registration and setup worked and the integration with a laptop 
(power off / restore / hibernate etc) works great.  Anyone else agree or am  I 
some how lucky or to clueless to no better.:)

I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my case 
I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and the other 
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Re: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[Scott Granados]

Pea Pod is also an option and I’m not sure but I believe that area may be 
covered by the Amazon expansion in to groceries and same day delivery.  
Definitely worth checking out.

Also, I can’t speak highly enough of the Safeway service.  I used to order 
entirely online from the train and  everything would be delivered on time every 
time.  All for $4.95.  If ou wanted they would go so far as to put them away 
for you.  You could have your super let them in or make arrangements (one time 
use iPhone lock passes etc) or just have someone meet them and they would load 
in to where ever you wanted.  Great service.

> On Oct 28, 2015, at 11:01 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> George, she's in Stockton California
>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, george b > > wrote:
>> 
>> We need to know what area
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of joseph hudson
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>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Looking for grocery store apps in California
>>  
>> Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live 
>> in California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. 
>> She knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others 
>> that I can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, 
>> and she already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?
>> Joseph Hudson
>> Email
>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>> I device support
>> Telephone
>> 2543007667
>> Skype
>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>> 
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>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
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VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[Scott Granados]

It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten very 
good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know some on 
list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a lot to be 
desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who started with 
Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten so much easier to 
use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while in the VM through 
voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and shutdown of VMs, the 
windows initial registration and setup worked and the integration with a laptop 
(power off / restore / hibernate etc) works great.  Anyone else agree or am  I 
some how lucky or to clueless to no better.:)

I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my case 
I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and the other 
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Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

I very much agree. The only issue I sometimes have is that keys in the VM are 
sometimes held down, especially when in conjunction with shift, although this 
is actually because of VoiceOVer's quick nav issue. Aside from that unrelated 
Fusion bug that causes the VM to act weird, it's very nice. They've done really 
well with it. I'm more than happy to keep upgrading, and I started out with 
VmWare Fusion 3. It's come a long way since then.

Nicolai
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten very 
> good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know some 
> on list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a lot to 
> be desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who started 
> with Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten so much 
> easier to use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while in the VM 
> through voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and shutdown of VMs, 
> the windows initial registration and setup worked and the integration with a 
> laptop (power off / restore / hibernate etc) works great.  Anyone else agree 
> or am  I some how lucky or to clueless to no better.:)
> 
> I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
> product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my case 
> I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and the 
> other a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD entirely.
> 
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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Scott Granados]

That was a separate suggestion.

Along with celebrating the battery I suggested a reboot after upgrading using 
that method.  They are not done together or mutually exclusive in anyway two 
independent things.  If you don’t reboot it’s not a problem.  Think of that 
move as a soft reset.

> On Oct 28, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott.
> 
> Thanks for the article.  The article didn’t mention what you said, hold the 
> home and power button together and boot your phone etc to calibrate the 
> battery.  Does that mean that you don’t need to do that anymore?
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:12, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> As promised, here you go.  It’s the first thing that pops up in google.  
>> There are hundreds if not thousands of articles on the subject ranging 
>> across the OS’s but here’s a pointer to the latest. 
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/
>> 
>> Also covers Macs and the watch.
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Dan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I'd love to read that info if it's still available.
>>> But again, it doesn't say anything in the manual about calibrating the 
>>> battery. But I'll still stick to my practice of discharging the battery 
>>> every so often.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
 Here’s the big problem, these built in celebration systems do not allow 
 the electrons to flow in the materials in the battery.  It’s very 
 important that you fully discharge at least monthly to allow the electrons 
 to rearrange.
 I got this information originally from the apple website itself, no idea 
 if the document is still up there but I’ll check and forward on if it is.
 
 
 
 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> A few things.
> 
> 1. None of this is in the iPhone guide.
> 2.Infact I called Apple and was told that the device and software totally 
> manage battery health and that it isn't necessary to calibrate the 
> battery.
> Now, after saying that, I have made it a point to occasionally discharge 
> the battery to shutdown and then after a while more than an hour 
> reconnect and charge completely.
> I am sure that at one time this was really necessary, but according to 
> apple, as of iOS 9.0, this is no longer necessary.
> Unfortunately, I don't know who I spoke with.
> Just my thoughts and comments on the subject.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This tells the circuits in the battery to drop their settings and 
>> recalibrate.  I’m not sure if it fully discharges or if it’s something 
>> built in to the software.
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Why is it nessesarry to wait an hour or maybe more before recharging?
>>> Thanks.
>>> /A
 On 27 Oct 2015, at 14:45, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 There are different ways.  Some people apparently say one hour some 
 say over night.  You must perform the reset while the phone is at 100 
 percent power and it is plugged in.
 
 
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Scott,
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> I did let the phone run all the way down but did not wait your 
> recommended 1 hour before beginning the recharge.  
> 
> I will let it run down, again, and then wait the one hour before 
> recharging.  
> 
> Should I perform the hard reset when the phone is at 0% power? or at 
> 100% full power.  Does it matter if the phone is connected to a power 
> outlet at the time of the hard reset?  
> 
> Mark  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:47 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery
> 
> Hi Mark, yes I mean let the phone draw until it self powers down. 
> Then wait an additional hour or so after this point and charge it 
> fully with a complete cycle.
> 
> Let me know if that’s more clear.
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Scott,
>> 
>> I changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our 
>> conversation.
>> 

Re: Some Information for A T & T Wireless Customers Who Recently Enabled WiFi Calling or Who Were Recently Switched to HD Voicemail

[Scott Granados]

So what I’ve learned from this is people still use voicemail.  Really?  :)

I can’t remember the last time I left a VM.  Text sure and emails but voicemail 
I’m really not sure.  It’s funny how habits like this change over time.  I 
remember when I used to use voicemail all the time and had all the various 
transcribing and repackaging gimmicks.  

Interesting they have a separate what they call HD voicemail system.  I suspect 
this is better put 3G verses 4G and I wonder why they couldn’t integrate both 
in to one since I know the features are supported.  

 


> On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:35 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As the following is extremely important to my enjoyment of iPhone and in so
> much as I think it an important tool for many of us, I am going to post this
> to both the Mac Visionaries and V iPhone mailing lists.
> 
> Please note that I can only verify the following on the A T & T Wireless
> network.
> 
> Generally speaking, the default time it takes for an incoming call to be
> sent to voicemail is approximately 20 seconds or, from the caller's point of
> view, 4 rings.  
> 
> For many years, it has been possible to increase the time it takes an
> incoming call to be sent to voicemail to as much as 30 seconds.  You might
> not think 10 seconds would make that much of a difference but, believe me,
> it does.  
> 
> Needless to say, I had my settings set to 30 seconds.  Although A T & T
> Wireless customer service representatives would change this account setting,
> upon request, it was actually possible, through a series of service dial
> commands, to adjust the setting directly from iPhone.
> 
> Those of you who, like me, were using the increased value setting, noticed
> that upon having your account provisioned for HD voicemail, a requirement in
> order to take advantage of WiFi calling, lost the benefit of the increased
> value.  That is to say, incoming calls, once again, were going to voicemail
> after 20 seconds, instead of 30.  You may have also noticed that the service
> dial commands, once used to manually adjust this setting, is no longer
> valid.
> 
> Well, as it turns out, the delay value previously set, only applies to the
> legacy voicemail system and not to the new HD voicemail system.
> 
> The good news is that you can call A T & T Wireless, 800-331-0500, and have
> the customer service representatives adjust the incoming call setting but
> you must be certain to tell the rep, as many of them are not yet aware, to
> make the adjustment to the HD voicemail system and not the legacy system,
> the system that first appears when an account is displayed.
> 
> Even better, the new system allows for even longer delay times than did the
> legacy system.  I currently have my delay time set to 40 seconds.  It is
> absolutely marvelous.  
> 
> Some of you may be wondering why one would want to have such a high delay
> time.  The answer is that it gives one, more time to reach the phone, should
> she/he be in a different room than the phone or time to dry his/her hands
> before touching the phone, etc.  
> 
> One final thing, many representatives may not know that the new system delay
> time can be adjusted; so if they do not know how to adjust the time,
> graciously insist that it can be done and request that your call be
> escalated to the next level of technical support.  
> 
> I am happy to say that a couple of acquaintances, with whom I first shared
> this information, have, like me, taken advantage of this new feature set
> and, also like me, are happier than clams in clam sauce (smile).
> 
> Good Luck and Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Curious About Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[E.T.]

   I chose Checkbook and will do the import/export this week from 
MoneyTalks. Splasm offers wonderful support.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/29/2015 1:00 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

I’ve been looking for an OSX app that is generally similar to the Windows 
“Talking Checkbook” and have found “Checkbook” and “Checkbook Pro” so far.  
After reading the descriptions for these apps that the “Pro” version is 
probably more than I need.  I do have several questions about both or either 
versions:

- Is anyone out here a user of either version?
- Are these apps effectively developed to work with VoiceOver?
- Is customer support genuinely responsive to the requirements of blind 
customers?

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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] still no new message sound in Mail

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi, John its Katie. I tried using the glass sound effect when I checked for new 
mail 2 days ago, and nothing happened. Then I went back to the new mail sound 
and when I check for new messages, I still don’t hear anything. I’m having  no 
luck at this. In mail preferences in the general tab, I have the checkbox 
checked for play sounds for other mail actions. In the notification center, I 
have alerts and sounds checked for the mail app. The notification center is 
something new I haven’t seen on my Mac before since I upgraded from Snow 
Leopard. I’m not sure why this isn’t working.
Do you have any other ideas? Should I have someone at the Apple store look at 
my Mac again?
Thanks.
Katie
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:58 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   I’d try the original new mail sound and see what happens. I am using it 
> now, though I do prefer my custom sound and will probably go back to using 
> it, since it was working.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, John. Normally I have the new message sound selected in Mail, but I 
>> changed the sound effect to glass instead. I checked the box after that when 
>> it said select ellipsis and closed out of mail preferences. I sent a test 
>> email to myself and thought the glass sound was going to work, but nothing 
>> happened when I got the email. Should I go back to the default mail sound or 
>> select a different sound?
>> Thanks.
>> Katie
>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 3:52 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you try messing with the popup menu for the new mail sound and try 
>>> different options. I just changed mine back to the default sound and it is 
>>> working. It was not working initially, which was why I was using a custom 
>>> sound I put on the system. However, now it is working.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
 
 Hi, Mark and George. That’s exactly what happens to me with Mail too. I 
 get the swishing send mail sound but no new mail sound when I receive 
 messages. All the other sound effects and Voiceover work fine on my Mac.
 I guess there’s a few of us that have this problem besides me. I’m glad 
 I’m not the only one.
 Katie
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Katie,
> 
> I'm curious, are you hearing sound effects in other applications such as 
> the Messages app?
> 
> Be sure that your system sound preferences are set correctly.  
> 
> Please do the following:  
> 
> Note, the following steps assume that you are using only the computer's 
> internal speakers for sound output.
> 
> 1.
> With all applications closed, from the Apple Menu, select System 
> Preferences.
> 
> 2.
> Select Sounds.  A dialogue box will open containing three Tabs labeled 
> Sound Effects, Output, and Input.
> 
> 3.
> On the Sound Effects tab, make certain that the "Play sound effects 
> through" option is set to Internal speakers.
> 
> 4.
> On the Output tab, set the "select a device for output" option to 
> internal speakers.
> 
> 5.
> Close the dialogue box.
> 
> Now, open the mail application and see what happens.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie Zodrow
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:32 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: still no new message sound in Mail
> 
> Hi, everyone. I just updated to OS 10.11.1 today. I’m still not getting 
> any new message sound when I receive something in Mail. I thought Apple 
> was going to fix this. I decided for now to just get alerts for mail in 
> notification center so I'll know when I get new email for now. Has anyone 
> else had this problem after they updated?
> I hope the next update Apple releases has that mail sound fixed.
> Katie
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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Grant]

Hi Scott,

The following is a direct quotation taken from the section of Apple’s website 
that you linked to:

"Charge your Apple lithium-ion battery whenever you want. There’s no need to 
let it discharge 100% before recharging. Apple lithium-ion batteries work in 
charge cycles. You complete one charge cycle when you’ve used (discharged) an 
amount that equals 100% of your battery’s capacity — but not necessarily all 
from one charge. For instance, you might use 75% of your battery’s capacity one 
day, then recharge it fully overnight. If you use 25% the next day, you will 
have discharged a total of 100%, and the two days will add up to one charge 
cycle. It could take several days to complete a cycle. The capacity of any type 
of battery will diminish after a certain amount of recharging. With lithium-ion 
batteries, the capacity diminishes slightly with each complete charge cycle.”

Link: "http://www.apple.com/batteries/why-lithium-ion/

My understanding was always that lithium ion batteries do not require 
calibration and that consistently letting them discharge to 0% and/or allowing 
them to remain at 0% for long periods of time may in fact shorten their 
lifespan. But I’m no battery scholar by any means, and there’s much conflicting 
information online about batteries and charging.

Grant


> On Oct 28, 2015, at 5:59:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> As promised, here you go.  It’s the first thing that pops up in google.  
> There are hundreds if not thousands of articles on the subject ranging across 
> the OS’s but here’s a pointer to the latest. 
> 
> http://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/
> 
> Also covers Macs and the watch.
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Dan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I'd love to read that info if it's still available.
>> But again, it doesn't say anything in the manual about calibrating the 
>> battery. But I'll still stick to my practice of discharging the battery 
>> every so often.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here’s the big problem, these built in celebration systems do not allow the 
>>> electrons to flow in the materials in the battery.  It’s very important 
>>> that you fully discharge at least monthly to allow the electrons to 
>>> rearrange.
>>>  I got this information originally from the apple website itself, no idea 
>>> if the document is still up there but I’ll check and forward on if it is.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Dan  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 A few things.
 
 1. None of this is in the iPhone guide.
 2.Infact I called Apple and was told that the device and software totally 
 manage battery health and that it isn't necessary to calibrate the battery.
 Now, after saying that, I have made it a point to occasionally discharge 
 the battery to shutdown and then after a while more than an hour reconnect 
 and charge completely.
 I am sure that at one time this was really necessary, but according to 
 apple, as of iOS 9.0, this is no longer necessary.
 Unfortunately, I don't know who I spoke with.
 Just my thoughts and comments on the subject.
 
 
 Dan
 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Scott Granados  
> wrote:
> 
> This tells the circuits in the battery to drop their settings and 
> recalibrate.  I’m not sure if it fully discharges or if it’s something 
> built in to the software.
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Why is it nessesarry to wait an hour or maybe more before recharging?
>> Thanks.
>> /A
>>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 14:45, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> There are different ways.  Some people apparently say one hour some say 
>>> over night.  You must perform the reset while the phone is at 100 
>>> percent power and it is plugged in.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Scott,
 
 Thank you.
 
 I did let the phone run all the way down but did not wait your 
 recommended 1 hour before beginning the recharge.  
 
 I will let it run down, again, and then wait the one hour before 
 recharging.  
 
 Should I perform the hard reset when the phone is at 0% power? or at 
 100% full power.  Does it matter if the phone is connected to a power 
 outlet at the time of the hard reset?  
 
 Mark  
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:47 

RE: Mail in EL Captain

[george b]

Yes it has changed, but I can not tell you at the moment the keystroke I am not 
at my mac

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of denise avant
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mail in EL Captain

Hello all,
I am running the latest version of El Capitan I am wondering if the command for 
moving to the top of the mail messages has changed. When I interact with the 
mail messages, and press function_vo-shift left arrow, I only move up about 
five messages instead to the very top. hav I missed something. thanks.

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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Blee Blat]

I'll look at that. I didn't know they serviced batteries. I thought they just 
meant you had to get a new phone.
 It seems to be behaving normally, this happened awhile ago but it seems to 
have resolved itself but I'll check the diagnostics and see if it shows up 
anything.

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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Grant]

I’d agree that the most likely result of a battery calibration would be a 
possible, small improvement in the battery gauge's accuracy. But I don’t think 
it should be huge. If folks are getting really bizarre battery readings such as 
the gauge being stuck at 100% as you described, I’d wonder whether your battery 
requires service. If you go to http://getsupport.apple.com, you can run a 
diagnostic test to help determine this. Select “battery, power and charging” 
then select “general questions or troubleshooting” and follow the prompts to 
send some diagnostic data to Apple. A message should be displayed if the 
battery requires service based on the results of the diagnostic data. I saw 
strange battery readings on an iPhone 5S a while ago, ran the diagnostics, and 
was told my battery required service. I was then able to bring the phone to 
Apple and get a new battery, which was covered under my AppleCare Plus..

Grant

On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:

Yeah, I'm not a scholar of batteries either but over time if you don't run the 
battery down to 0% periodically you may find that the fuel gauge gets out of 
sync. So you can have a situation for example when your battery charge says 0% 
but the phone is still working, or you can have 30% charge and a powered off 
device. So that's what your calibrating is the charge readout probably not the 
battery itself.
I think you could get into situations too where if the gauge on the battery is 
out of sync with the cells, it might attempt to charge an already filled 
battery unnecessarily, but I think there is a few other checks to prevent that 
from happening. I'm not sure what programmatically goes on in battery 
management firmware.
 It is probably slightly different for every firmware.
I don't calibrate batteries regularly but I had to do that once because the 
phone and computer were showing weird battery numbers.
I had them both showing 100% charge after a full 8 hours of heavy use. So maybe 
this clears up some things or if I'm misunderstanding something then we can 
find some decent answers and not get confused. I think battery firmware changes 
with every update too.
Maybe this is related to the random reboots and failed sign-ins to icloud stuff 
after ios 9.1 updates, neither of which were fixed from a full restore from 
itunes but I don't know. But phone is very unhappy at the moment.

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Apple TV (2015) cNet Review

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Here is the text of the cNet review of the new Apple TV.  The link to the
original article is located at the end of the text.

Enjoy,

Mark

Apple TV (2015) cNet Review
The smoothest streaming TV today, powerful potential tomorrow 

The Good The new Apple TV delivers the most polished video experience today,
with speedy reactions and a familiar yet attractive interface. It has the
best remote on the market. Siri's voice search makes finding stuff to watch
even easier, with search results pulled from numerous services beyond
iTunes. The selection of TV-based apps is very good, and AirPlay can be used
for unsupported apps.

The Bad Apple TV costs more than similar devices like the Roku, Amazon Fire
TV and Chromecast for basically the same core functions. There's no
dedicated app for Amazon or any other a la carte video service beyond
iTunes. Non-entertainment apps aren't very compelling yet.

The Bottom Line The new Apple TV's awesome remote and voice control make it
one of the best entertainment devices, especially for anyone who already
owns plenty of Apple gadgets.

Visit manufacturer site for details.
8.4 Overall

Value
7.0
Design
10.0
Ecosystem
9.0
Features
9.0
Performance
10.0

Editors' note: This review refers to the US version. Some details, in
particular available video-streaming apps, will vary in different
territories.

I have a confession to make. I'm an Android guy.

I've always owned Samsung phones and Windows computers, and tell family
members to get Amazon Fire tablets. I bought a Mac in college but ended up
paying a fortune for it as part of a student loan program and never bought
one again. While my work laptop is a MacBook (a recent switch), the only
Apple product I've spent my own money on in the last 15 years is an iPad for
my wife, and now it gets used mostly to entertain the kids during car rides.

But some of the smartest people I know swear by Apple products, and after
playing with the new Apple TV for the last few days, I can see why. I've
tested just about every other box and stick from Roku, Amazon and Google
over the years, not to mention countless Smart TV systems and plenty of game
consoles. All of them can stream videos from services like Netflix, Hulu and
YouTube to your television, but none feels as nice as the new Apple TV.

The remote is simply the best I've ever used. Equipped with a responsive,
thumb-sized touchpad it flies through menus, lists of TV show thumbnails and
videos themselves, putting conventional cursor-based controls to shame. And
voice search -- I guess you Apple people call it "Siri" for some reason --
works very well, and can do a lot more than just find stuff to watch.

The new Apple TV is not perfect. It costs more than comparable devices --
always my main gripe about Apple products. It lets you play plenty of games,
but titles originally designed for phones and tablets aren't necessarily as
appealing on a big screen, and most work best with a third-party game
controller. And it galls me that the Apple TV remote is so good, I'd have to
keep it around in addition to my system-mastering Harmony rather than
consigning it to a drawer like my other clickers.

My main issue though is lack of a real app for Amazon Video, my
second-favorite streaming video service after Netflix. I don't know who to
blame, Amazon or Apple or the streaming gods themselves, but regardless, it
doesn't make any sense, especially since there's an Amazon app for iPhones
and iPads. With Amazon's recent decision to boot Apple TV and Chromecast
devices from its store, I don't expect an Amazon app for Apple TV anytime
soon.

If you're an Apple fan who owns a lot of TV shows, movies and games on Apple
devices already, the new Apple TV is absolutely worth the money. For people
like me, however, it's a tougher sell. I like Roku better overall for its
price-savvy search and wider app selection including Amazon, Sling TV and
Spotify, as well as its more affordable hardware.

To get the most out of Apple TV you need to be invested already in the Apple
universe, with games, TV shows and movies you've purchased from iTunes and
the App Store. That's a shame since it offers the best streaming experience
today, and more potential tomorrow once app developers go to town finding
ways to exploit the big screen and that slick remote. But if the previous
Apple TV was any indication, this one's only going to grow more appealing.

Pricing information: The new Apple TV comes in in two versions: $149 for the
32GB model, and $199 for the 64GB model. The previous Apple TV, first
released in 2012, remains on sale at $69, £59 and AU$109. In the UK, the new
model costs £129 for the 32GB and £169 for 64GB, while in Australia they
cost AU$269 and AU$349. For most people I recommend the 32GB version. See "A
choice of sizes: 
32GB vs. 64GB" below for details.

It's been more than three and a half years since the first Apple TV went on
sale, but Apple didn't 

Re: Mail in EL Captain

[Andrew Lamanche]

You no longer have to press shift button to move to the top of the lists or 
tables.  It's just vo+fn+left or aright arrow.
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 18:50, george b  wrote:
> 
> Yes it has changed, but I can not tell you at the moment the keystroke I am 
> not at my mac
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:45
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mail in EL Captain
> 
> Hello all,
> I am running the latest version of El Capitan I am wondering if the command 
> for moving to the top of the mail messages has changed. When I interact with 
> the mail messages, and press function_vo-shift left arrow, I only move up 
> about five messages instead to the very top. hav I missed something. thanks.
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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Blee Blat]

Yeah, I'm not a scholar of batteries either but over time if you don't run the 
battery down to 0% periodically you may find that the fuel gauge gets out of 
sync. So you can have a situation for example when your battery charge says 0% 
but the phone is still working, or you can have 30% charge and a powered off 
device. So that's what your calibrating is the charge readout probably not the 
battery itself.
 I think you could get into situations too where if the gauge on the battery is 
out of sync with the cells, it might attempt to charge an already filled 
battery unnecessarily, but I think there is a few other checks to prevent that 
from happening. I'm not sure what programmatically goes on in battery 
management firmware.
  It is probably slightly different for every firmware.
 I don't calibrate batteries regularly but I had to do that once because the 
phone and computer were showing weird battery numbers.
I had them both showing 100% charge after a full 8 hours of heavy use. So maybe 
this clears up some things or if I'm misunderstanding something then we can 
find some decent answers and not get confused. I think battery firmware changes 
with every update too.
 Maybe this is related to the random reboots and failed sign-ins to icloud 
stuff after ios 9.1 updates, neither of which were fixed from a full restore 
from itunes but I don't know. But phone is very unhappy at the moment.

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Re: Mail in EL Captain

[denise avant]

Thanks. Too many keys on my part.

> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
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> The command is still command option up arrow.
> 
> God bless.
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>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 14:50, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes it has changed, but I can not tell you at the moment the keystroke I am 
>> not at my mac
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant
>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:45
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mail in EL Captain
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I am running the latest version of El Capitan I am wondering if the command 
>> for moving to the top of the mail messages has changed. When I interact with 
>> the mail messages, and press function_vo-shift left arrow, I only move up 
>> about five messages instead to the very top. hav I missed something. thanks.
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Mail in EL Captain

[denise avant]

Hello all,
I am running the latest version of El Capitan 
I am wondering if the command for moving to the top of the mail messages has 
changed. When I interact with the mail messages, and press function_vo-shift 
left arrow, I only move up about five messages instead to the very top. hav I 
missed something. thanks.

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Re: Mail in EL Captain

[Matthew Dierckens]

The command is still command option up arrow.

God bless.
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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 14:50, george b  wrote:
> 
> Yes it has changed, but I can not tell you at the moment the keystroke I am 
> not at my mac
> 
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:45
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mail in EL Captain
> 
> Hello all,
> I am running the latest version of El Capitan I am wondering if the command 
> for moving to the top of the mail messages has changed. When I interact with 
> the mail messages, and press function_vo-shift left arrow, I only move up 
> about five messages instead to the very top. hav I missed something. thanks.
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WTB: Looking for a mac book pro, iMac, iPhone, and iPad...

[Cameron Strife]

Hi everybody. I'm in the market for a mac book pro with ssd, iMac with
ssd, iPhone, and iPad mini or air. I'm only interested in items in
very good to mint condition with no repairs. Warranty or AppleCare
would be great but are not necessary.

If you have all or any of the products listed, please e mail me off
list with the details. My e mail address is came...@cameronstrife.com

Thanks,

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Am I hearing Things?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All, 

This is probably really minor, but when I do a VO Shift D to go to the desktop, 
I swear I am hearing the Alex voice say “Maintosh HD Volume.”  Has anyone else 
heard this?  I know the list has discussed problems with the Samantha voice, 
but I’ve always kept the voice set to Alex.  I find it so weird that of all the 
words to mis-pronounce its not able to annunciate Macintosh correctly.  

Just wondering. 

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Re: I messages not working properly.

[joseph hudson]

No slowness hear everything is working fine.
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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Kjsc Radio  wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> Is anybody having a problem with i messages sending slow when signing into 
> iCloud? I am also having a problem or if I receive a text from the contact, 
> the contact card is not showing up in my messages app on my mac. I have tried 
> both re signing into iCloud and iMessage, but still I get the same results. I 
> am running the latest version of El Capitan.
> 
> Jonnyboy! Iphones rock!
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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] still no new message sound in Mail

[John Panarese]

   Do you have a custom sound you can copy into your user library/sounds 
folder?  If so, I would try using that one just to see if that works.


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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi, John its Katie. I tried using the glass sound effect when I checked for 
> new mail 2 days ago, and nothing happened. Then I went back to the new mail 
> sound and when I check for new messages, I still don’t hear anything. I’m 
> having  no luck at this. In mail preferences in the general tab, I have the 
> checkbox checked for play sounds for other mail actions. In the notification 
> center, I have alerts and sounds checked for the mail app. The notification 
> center is something new I haven’t seen on my Mac before since I upgraded from 
> Snow Leopard. I’m not sure why this isn’t working.
> Do you have any other ideas? Should I have someone at the Apple store look at 
> my Mac again?
> Thanks.
> Katie
>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:58 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>  I’d try the original new mail sound and see what happens. I am using it 
>> now, though I do prefer my custom sound and will probably go back to using 
>> it, since it was working.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, John. Normally I have the new message sound selected in Mail, but I 
>>> changed the sound effect to glass instead. I checked the box after that 
>>> when it said select ellipsis and closed out of mail preferences. I sent a 
>>> test email to myself and thought the glass sound was going to work, but 
>>> nothing happened when I got the email. Should I go back to the default mail 
>>> sound or select a different sound?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Katie
 On Oct 26, 2015, at 3:52 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
 Did you try messing with the popup menu for the new mail sound and try 
 different options. I just changed mine back to the default sound and it is 
 working. It was not working initially, which was why I was using a custom 
 sound I put on the system. However, now it is working.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Mac for the Blind
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 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Mark and George. That’s exactly what happens to me with Mail too. I 
> get the swishing send mail sound but no new mail sound when I receive 
> messages. All the other sound effects and Voiceover work fine on my Mac.
> I guess there’s a few of us that have this problem besides me. I’m glad 
> I’m not the only one.
> Katie
>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Katie,
>> 
>> I'm curious, are you hearing sound effects in other applications such as 
>> the Messages app?
>> 
>> Be sure that your system sound preferences are set correctly.  
>> 
>> Please do the following:  
>> 
>> Note, the following steps assume that you are using only the computer's 
>> internal speakers for sound output.
>> 
>> 1.
>> With all applications closed, from the Apple Menu, select System 
>> Preferences.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select Sounds.  A dialogue box will open containing three Tabs labeled 
>> Sound Effects, Output, and Input.
>> 
>> 3.
>> On the Sound Effects tab, make certain that the "Play sound effects 
>> through" option is set to Internal speakers.
>> 
>> 4.
>> On the Output tab, set the "select a device for output" option to 
>> internal speakers.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Close the dialogue box.
>> 
>> Now, open the mail application and see what happens.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie Zodrow
>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:32 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: still no new message 

RE: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] still no new message sound in Mail

[george b]

Tell me what to do to make a custom sound please
thanks

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Subject: Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] still no new message sound in Mail

   Do you have a custom sound you can copy into your user library/sounds 
folder?  If so, I would try using that one just to see if that works.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
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MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



> On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi, John its Katie. I tried using the glass sound effect when I checked for 
> new mail 2 days ago, and nothing happened. Then I went back to the new mail 
> sound and when I check for new messages, I still don’t hear anything. I’m 
> having  no luck at this. In mail preferences in the general tab, I have the 
> checkbox checked for play sounds for other mail actions. In the notification 
> center, I have alerts and sounds checked for the mail app. The notification 
> center is something new I haven’t seen on my Mac before since I upgraded from 
> Snow Leopard. I’m not sure why this isn’t working.
> Do you have any other ideas? Should I have someone at the Apple store look at 
> my Mac again?
> Thanks.
> Katie
>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:58 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>  I’d try the original new mail sound and see what happens. I am using it 
>> now, though I do prefer my custom sound and will probably go back to using 
>> it, since it was working.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, John. Normally I have the new message sound selected in Mail, but I 
>>> changed the sound effect to glass instead. I checked the box after that 
>>> when it said select ellipsis and closed out of mail preferences. I sent a 
>>> test email to myself and thought the glass sound was going to work, but 
>>> nothing happened when I got the email. Should I go back to the default mail 
>>> sound or select a different sound?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Katie
 On Oct 26, 2015, at 3:52 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
 Did you try messing with the popup menu for the new mail sound and try 
 different options. I just changed mine back to the default sound and it is 
 working. It was not working initially, which was why I was using a custom 
 sound I put on the system. However, now it is working.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Mark and George. That’s exactly what happens to me with Mail too. I 
> get the swishing send mail sound but no new mail sound when I receive 
> messages. All the other sound effects and Voiceover work fine on my Mac.
> I guess there’s a few of us that have this problem besides me. I’m glad 
> I’m not the only one.
> Katie
>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Katie,
>> 
>> I'm curious, are you hearing sound effects in other applications such as 
>> the Messages app?
>> 
>> Be sure that your system sound preferences are set correctly.  
>> 
>> Please do the following:  
>> 
>> Note, the following steps assume that you are using only the computer's 
>> internal speakers for sound output.
>> 
>> 1.
>> With all applications closed, from the Apple Menu, select System 
>> Preferences.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select Sounds.  A dialogue box will open containing three Tabs labeled 
>> Sound Effects, Output, and Input.
>> 
>> 3.
>> On the Sound Effects tab, make certain that the "Play sound effects 
>> through" option is set to Internal speakers.
>> 
>> 4.
>> On the Output tab, set the "select a device for output" option to 
>> internal speakers.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Close the dialogue box.
>> 
>> Now, open the mail application and see what happens.

I messages not working properly.

[Kjsc Radio]

Hello all.
Is anybody having a problem with i messages sending slow when signing into 
iCloud? I am also having a problem or if I receive a text from the contact, the 
contact card is not showing up in my messages app on my mac. I have tried both 
re signing into iCloud and iMessage, but still I get the same results. I am 
running the latest version of El Capitan.

Jonnyboy! Iphones rock!

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Re: More on hotspots.

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hopefully you are right. 


> Am 29.10.2015 um 11:10 schrieb David Chittenden :
> 
> I seriously doubt the contention that there are no blind users on Apple's 
> accessibility team.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 22:26, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anne and Anders,
>> 
>> the same issues occur on my german keyboard layout.
>> 
>> Regarding the answers of the accessibility team: I don’t think they let 
>> blind VO users work in their team and so, if someone’s not using VO on a 
>> daily base, a lot of issues do not occur because they show up randomly. I 
>> started to ignore the answer, it should depend on my device or other 
>> installed software, and my hope is they will keep it in mind if others 
>> report this issue. 
>> 
>> The second strategy is simply to call them. I experienced several times that 
>> they couldn’t duplicate an issue via e-mail. But when I called them, told 
>> them to take the same stepps I took, they suddenly could duplicate the issue 
>> and wrote a note about it. 
>> 
>> Once I called them and he couldn’t confirm my issue. Then I asked him wether 
>> he switched on VO and he appologized because he tried the behaviour I 
>> reported with VO switched off. So it might be good to tell them personally 
>> how to do it.
>> 
>> All the best 
>> Jürgen
>>> Am 29.10.2015 um 08:48 schrieb Anne Robertson :
>>> 
>>> Hello Anders,
>>> 
>>> If you do VO-k, does VoiceOver announce the hotspots correctly? If so, then 
>>> something very strange is happening.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:52, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I use swedish keyboard here.
 Maybe this is the case here to.
 I wonder why?
 /A
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:12, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anders,
> 
> What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, 
> the French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have 
> numbers on the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, 
> is not supported with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters 
> still work. In that case, hotspots are a nightmare.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot 
>> number 2.
>> I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
>> So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility 
>> team stated?
>> I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
>> I keep you all posted if interested.
>> /A
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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Scott Granados]

Grant, I find this interesting.  I’m skeptical but if it’s on an apple resource 
then they would know.

Good find.

> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Grant  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The following is a direct quotation taken from the section of Apple’s website 
> that you linked to:
> 
> "Charge your Apple lithium-ion battery whenever you want. There’s no need to 
> let it discharge 100% before recharging. Apple lithium-ion batteries work in 
> charge cycles. You complete one charge cycle when you’ve used (discharged) an 
> amount that equals 100% of your battery’s capacity — but not necessarily all 
> from one charge. For instance, you might use 75% of your battery’s capacity 
> one day, then recharge it fully overnight. If you use 25% the next day, you 
> will have discharged a total of 100%, and the two days will add up to one 
> charge cycle. It could take several days to complete a cycle. The capacity of 
> any type of battery will diminish after a certain amount of recharging. With 
> lithium-ion batteries, the capacity diminishes slightly with each complete 
> charge cycle.”
> 
> Link: "http://www.apple.com/batteries/why-lithium-ion/ 
> 
> 
> My understanding was always that lithium ion batteries do not require 
> calibration and that consistently letting them discharge to 0% and/or 
> allowing them to remain at 0% for long periods of time may in fact shorten 
> their lifespan. But I’m no battery scholar by any means, and there’s much 
> conflicting information online about batteries and charging.
> 
> Grant
> 
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 5:59:12 AM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> As promised, here you go.  It’s the first thing that pops up in google.  
>> There are hundreds if not thousands of articles on the subject ranging 
>> across the OS’s but here’s a pointer to the latest. 
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/ 
>> 
>> 
>> Also covers Macs and the watch.
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Dan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I'd love to read that info if it's still available.
>>> But again, it doesn't say anything in the manual about calibrating the 
>>> battery. But I'll still stick to my practice of discharging the battery 
>>> every so often.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
 Here’s the big problem, these built in celebration systems do not allow 
 the electrons to flow in the materials in the battery.  It’s very 
 important that you fully discharge at least monthly to allow the electrons 
 to rearrange.
  I got this information originally from the apple website itself, no idea 
 if the document is still up there but I’ll check and forward on if it is.
 
 
 
 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> A few things.
> 
> 1. None of this is in the iPhone guide.
> 2.Infact I called Apple and was told that the device and software totally 
> manage battery health and that it isn't necessary to calibrate the 
> battery.
> Now, after saying that, I have made it a point to occasionally discharge 
> the battery to shutdown and then after a while more than an hour 
> reconnect and charge completely.
> I am sure that at one time this was really necessary, but according to 
> apple, as of iOS 9.0, this is no longer necessary.
> Unfortunately, I don't know who I spoke with.
> Just my thoughts and comments on the subject.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This tells the circuits in the battery to drop their settings and 
>> recalibrate.  I’m not sure if it fully discharges or if it’s something 
>> built in to the software.
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Why is it nessesarry to wait an hour or maybe more before recharging?
>>> Thanks.
>>> /A
 On 27 Oct 2015, at 14:45, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 There are different ways.  Some people apparently say one hour some 
 say over night.  You must perform the reset while the phone is at 100 
 percent power and it is plugged in.
 
 
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Scott,
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> I did let the phone run all the way down but did not wait your 
> recommended 1 hour before beginning the recharge.  
> 
> I will let it run down, again, and then wait the one hour before 

Re: Am I hearing Things?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

The only thing I can think of is you may have pressed the enter/return key to 
edit the name rather than open it one time and you somehow deleted the C and 
the K. If that's the case, press enter/return and edit it the way it's supposed 
to be. My Alex says Mackintosh HD here correctly so can't reproduce that 
problem here.

Shawn
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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> This is probably really minor, but when I do a VO Shift D to go to the 
> desktop, I swear I am hearing the Alex voice say “Maintosh HD Volume.”  Has 
> anyone else heard this?  I know the list has discussed problems with the 
> Samantha voice, but I’ve always kept the voice set to Alex.  I find it so 
> weird that of all the words to mis-pronounce its not able to annunciate 
> Macintosh correctly. 
>  
> Just wondering.
>  
> Eileen
>  
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Re: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[joseph hudson]

George thanks and thanks to the other individual that gave me a nice suggestion 
I will definitely put your suggestion to her head. And to George, I will have 
to tell you that you give me a really long link. And Linstedt wrap over I just 
sometimes not good. 
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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Joe here is a start for them
> A list of stores from google below
>  
> https://www.google.com/search?site==hp=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california_l=hp.3...1373.13737.0.14149.45.34.0.11.11.0.129.2510.32j2.34.00...1c.1.64.hp..5.40.2563.IqurKAJLCSs
>  
> 
>  
> hth
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 20:02
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for grocery store apps in California
>  
> George, she's in Stockton California
>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, george b > > wrote:
>>  
>> We need to know what area
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 15:08
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Looking for grocery store apps in California
>>  
>> Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live 
>> in California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. 
>> She knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others 
>> that I can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, 
>> and she already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?
>> Joseph Hudson
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Re: Some Information for A T & T Wireless Customers Who Recently Enabled WiFi Calling or Who Were Recently Switched to HD Voicemail

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Scott.

I’ve not used Voice Mail for years.  If people can’t get me, I encourage them 
to leave me a text message or I just forward my calls to another phone such as 
my work number.  I also have got the phone provider that I’m with to switch off 
the mailbox so no messages can be left.
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 14:33, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So what I’ve learned from this is people still use voicemail.  Really?  :)
> 
> I can’t remember the last time I left a VM.  Text sure and emails but 
> voicemail I’m really not sure.  It’s funny how habits like this change over 
> time.  I remember when I used to use voicemail all the time and had all the 
> various transcribing and repackaging gimmicks.  
> 
> Interesting they have a separate what they call HD voicemail system.  I 
> suspect this is better put 3G verses 4G and I wonder why they couldn’t 
> integrate both in to one since I know the features are supported.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:35 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As the following is extremely important to my enjoyment of iPhone and in so
>> much as I think it an important tool for many of us, I am going to post this
>> to both the Mac Visionaries and V iPhone mailing lists.
>> 
>> Please note that I can only verify the following on the A T & T Wireless
>> network.
>> 
>> Generally speaking, the default time it takes for an incoming call to be
>> sent to voicemail is approximately 20 seconds or, from the caller's point of
>> view, 4 rings.  
>> 
>> For many years, it has been possible to increase the time it takes an
>> incoming call to be sent to voicemail to as much as 30 seconds.  You might
>> not think 10 seconds would make that much of a difference but, believe me,
>> it does.  
>> 
>> Needless to say, I had my settings set to 30 seconds.  Although A T & T
>> Wireless customer service representatives would change this account setting,
>> upon request, it was actually possible, through a series of service dial
>> commands, to adjust the setting directly from iPhone.
>> 
>> Those of you who, like me, were using the increased value setting, noticed
>> that upon having your account provisioned for HD voicemail, a requirement in
>> order to take advantage of WiFi calling, lost the benefit of the increased
>> value.  That is to say, incoming calls, once again, were going to voicemail
>> after 20 seconds, instead of 30.  You may have also noticed that the service
>> dial commands, once used to manually adjust this setting, is no longer
>> valid.
>> 
>> Well, as it turns out, the delay value previously set, only applies to the
>> legacy voicemail system and not to the new HD voicemail system.
>> 
>> The good news is that you can call A T & T Wireless, 800-331-0500, and have
>> the customer service representatives adjust the incoming call setting but
>> you must be certain to tell the rep, as many of them are not yet aware, to
>> make the adjustment to the HD voicemail system and not the legacy system,
>> the system that first appears when an account is displayed.
>> 
>> Even better, the new system allows for even longer delay times than did the
>> legacy system.  I currently have my delay time set to 40 seconds.  It is
>> absolutely marvelous.  
>> 
>> Some of you may be wondering why one would want to have such a high delay
>> time.  The answer is that it gives one, more time to reach the phone, should
>> she/he be in a different room than the phone or time to dry his/her hands
>> before touching the phone, etc.  
>> 
>> One final thing, many representatives may not know that the new system delay
>> time can be adjusted; so if they do not know how to adjust the time,
>> graciously insist that it can be done and request that your call be
>> escalated to the next level of technical support.  
>> 
>> I am happy to say that a couple of acquaintances, with whom I first shared
>> this information, have, like me, taken advantage of this new feature set
>> and, also like me, are happier than clams in clam sauce (smile).
>> 
>> Good Luck and Enjoy,
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: clean my mac on El Capitan

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

So could it explode?  Just be careful when using it and if you can use the 
machine without the battery then that would be preferable.
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 00:46, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> basically, it aged. most Lithium Ion batteries start to swell a little with 
> age. It also doesn't help if its left on recharge all the time. The battery 
> for this white book was the original issue and started swelling about 2 years 
> ago. It got to the point where it was causing random keyboard key presses. 
> Li-ion batteries are known for this type of issue. They are also massively 
> unstable under the right conditions (its like having a hand grenade waiting 
> to go off).
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> How does a battery get swollen?
>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 02:22, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> right now, I am not even running with a battery. I am using only the power 
>>> supply to run this thing. the battery is swollen to the point of not even 
>>> being able to fit the case. Also, I don't have the funds to go and get it 
>>> replaced. so, I do what I can with what I got.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>>> 
 I wonder whether your battery is causing overheating.  I had this issue on 
 my old Macbook pro similar age as yours, and at that time a search on the 
 internet revealed that the likely cause was the age of the battery.  I had 
 to change it and things had improved.  Just a suggestion.
> On 27 Oct 2015, at 20:23, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> ok. well, I haven't installed El Capitan here as yet (not sure my 2007 
> vintage whitebook would even allow it to install). THere are one or 2 
> other issues I have been having on this white book of mine (some random 
> crashes of voiceover, generally due to web page code viewed via safari). 
> Also, lately, the fan has been running all the time, even when I have 
> nothing going on the desktop. so far, looking through the logs hasn't 
> revealed the issue.
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> MacPaw actually has an offering called CleanMyPC, which has no relation 
>> to the tuneup utility BitDefender provides. If it has, I'm not aware of 
>> it, since it is vastly different and only included with other products 
>> and neither company has given credit to each other.
>> 
>> With that out of the way, you can trust CleanMyMac. I own a copy, 
>> although it's for various reasons.
>> 
>> sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
>> 
>> runs  all maintenance scripts at the same time. You can verify they have 
>> run by typing
>> 
>> ls -al /var/log/*.out
>> 
>> Saying that, beyond doing what the maintenance scripts do, they don't 
>> actually clean up application leftovers. Depending on the app, you can 
>> have support files, caches, plugins, libraries, preferences, and saved 
>> states. The maintenance scripts primarily deal with logging, at least 
>> from what I can tell when looking at them including log files. The 
>> leftovers are really where I gain some space back. I used to look for 
>> these manually.
>> 
>> Despite that "dragging an application to the trash deletes everything" 
>> that isn't true with everything. I've found that to be the case with 
>> most applications I have, but I still see some that leave associated 
>> files around. You aren't going to get those unless you set up a cronjob 
>> to look for them, either based on a schedule or when the maintenance 
>> scripts last ran. Of course, looking for those paths is easy enough to 
>> do, so it's not as big of a deal, but it's still time you could spend on 
>> doing something else. That's been my own experiences ever since I first 
>> started running OS X, in particular with apps not from the Mac App 
>> Store. Looking through /library/Application Support, it's easy to tell 
>> which apps require a bit more work before all of it is gone. Of course, 
>> bottom line is that you don't actually need to shell out any money for 
>> apps at all, since you can do it yourself. CleanMyMac and Cocktail just 
>> make it easier. Oddly enough, the article only mentions caching and 
>> logging, but not the application deletion misconception. I always hear 
>> "just drag it to the trash and it's gone" which just glancing at folders 
>> shows that isn't always correct. Dragging .app to the trash doesn't 
>> clear associated files elsewhere. Of course, with apps from the Mac App 
>> Store this shouldn't be an issue.
>> 
>> Food for thought. CleanMyMac already does all of that, so it's fairly 
>> useful if for no other reason than it automatically warns you if 

Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have the latest VMFusion but no windows.  I need to get Windows 10 just to 
try it.
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 13:52, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I very much agree. The only issue I sometimes have is that keys in the VM are 
> sometimes held down, especially when in conjunction with shift, although this 
> is actually because of VoiceOVer's quick nav issue. Aside from that unrelated 
> Fusion bug that causes the VM to act weird, it's very nice. They've done 
> really well with it. I'm more than happy to keep upgrading, and I started out 
> with VmWare Fusion 3. It's come a long way since then.
> 
> Nicolai
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten 
>> very good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know 
>> some on list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a 
>> lot to be desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who 
>> started with Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten 
>> so much easier to use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while 
>> in the VM through voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and 
>> shutdown of VMs, the windows initial registration and setup worked and the 
>> integration with a laptop (power off / restore / hibernate etc) works great. 
>>  Anyone else agree or am  I some how lucky or to clueless to no better.:)
>> 
>> I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
>> product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my 
>> case I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and 
>> the other a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD 
>> entirely.
>> 
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RE: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[george b]

Well oe somedays you just are not happy that was straight from the address bar 
in i.e.  didn’t know I had to edit for you

 

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George thanks and thanks to the other individual that gave me a nice suggestion 
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On Oct 29, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b  > wrote:

 

Joe here is a start for them 

A list of stores from google below

 

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=hp=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california=list+of+grocery+stores+in+stockten+california_l=hp.3...1373.13737.0.14149.45.34.0.11.11.0.129.2510.32j2.34.00...1c.1.64.hp..5.40.2563.IqurKAJLCSs

 

hth

 

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George, she's in Stockton California

On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, george b  > wrote:

 

We need to know what area

 

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Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live in 
California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. She 
knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others that I 
can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, and she 
already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?

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Curious About Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[Bill Gallik]

I’ve been looking for an OSX app that is generally similar to the Windows 
“Talking Checkbook” and have found “Checkbook” and “Checkbook Pro” so far.  
After reading the descriptions for these apps that the “Pro” version is 
probably more than I need.  I do have several questions about both or either 
versions:

- Is anyone out here a user of either version?
- Are these apps effectively developed to work with VoiceOver?
- Is customer support genuinely responsive to the requirements of blind 
customers?

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Re: More on hotspots.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Anders,

If you do VO-k, does VoiceOver announce the hotspots correctly? If so, then 
something very strange is happening.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:52, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I use swedish keyboard here.
> Maybe this is the case here to.
> I wonder why?
> /A
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:12, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anders,
>> 
>> What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, the 
>> French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have numbers 
>> on the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, is not 
>> supported with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters still work. In 
>> that case, hotspots are a nightmare.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 2.
>>> I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
>>> So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
>>> stated?
>>> I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
>>> I keep you all posted if interested.
>>> /A
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Re: Hotspots not working properly.

[Andrew Lamanche]

Yes, Anne, I did do the clean install.  I initially installed over Yosemite but 
had issues many more issues than now. So I took the plunge, researched it 
carefully and performed clean install.  Hotspots and Safari holding onto VO 
focus although not every time nor consistently are the major issues for me now. 
 The rest works very well indeed.

Manny thanks

Andrew
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:17, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> I can’t remember whether you’ve answered this already, but did you do a clean 
> install of El Capitán? I’m seeing a lot of anomalies where people have simply 
> updated rather than doing a clean install. Apple makes it all too easy to do 
> that which is unfortunate for new Mac users, several of whom we’ve had to 
> rescue in recent weeks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:26, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Anne,
>> 
>> It's all very strange: some people can use hotspots and others don't.  My 
>> hotspots don't stick at all, nor can I reliably set webspots.  I may be able 
>> to use them within the same application but they won't work for more than a 
>> few times and then they stop.  And if I call up hotspots chooser menu, 
>> Voiceover reports that the particular hotspot is inactive.  I had reset the 
>> VoiceOver to its original settings as John Panarese had suggested but to no 
>> avail.  I do hope that they will be fixed soon as I miss them.
>> 
>> I also wanted to ask you whether you were experiencing problems with Safari 
>> holding onto the Voiceover focus and dragging it to itself when trying to 
>> command+tab from Safari into another application.  I think it must be 
>> Voiceover problem because if I unload Voiceover and load it again, the 
>> problem disappears..  Another way which i have tried is to position my 
>> Voiceover cursor onto the toolbar in Safari and then I can tab away into 
>> another application.  It's all beyond me.  This behaviour is not consistent 
>> though but it does happen for me often enough to become a nuisance.  The 
>> thing is Apple accessibility are telling me that they can't reproduce it so 
>> they won't work on it.  And yet, others have experienced this problem as 
>> well.
>> 
>> Thank you for writing.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 09:41, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Andrew,
>>> 
>>> I can jump to a hotspot in another application as long as I’m using the 
>>> basic activity, not one I’ve created myself. So, I can’t jump to a hotspot 
>>> in Safari from Mail, because I have a special Mail activity with low 
>>> verbosity and other variations from the norm. However, I can jump to a 
>>> hotspot in Safari from the Finder.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 26 Oct 2015, at 23:36, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 hello,
 
 I've just read Anne's post carefully.  I am unfortunately having problems 
 with hotspots.   I set a hotspot in one application, and then launch 
 another app in which I wish to do some work.  And then wehn I want to 
 return to the application in which I had set a hotspot - I cant do so.  In 
 the previous OS releases  I used to be able to jump to a hotspot 
 regardless whether I was in the app or not, now i can't do it.  Is your 
 experience, Anne, different? Have you tried to use the hotspot from 
 another app?  
> On 26 Oct 2015, at 17:15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Report and report this to apple.
> Hopefully we will get this fixed.
> /A
>> On 25 Oct 2015, at 22:41, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I have had these kinds of issues ever since I started using the 
>> Mac a couple of years ago. I was all excited about how it would be 
>> really great and then when it didn't work I thought it might be 
>> something I was just doing incorrectly or not understanding. At this 
>> point I have given up entirely upon all of it and it's really a shame 
>> that the feature(s) do(es) not work as advertised.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> I can confirm this and I've written to the list about this before.  
>> Hotspots just don't stick at all.  I had reported it in the beta testing 
>> and I've reported it  since upgrading to El Capitan.  Please keep on 
>> reporting it to Apple Accessibility.  It's not just on hotspot 22, it's 
>> any hotspot I set that won't stick.  This feature is totally unusable 
>> now, and the same goes for setting webspots.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 25 Oct 2015, at 17:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Before i tell apple accessibility about this i think i’d ask here first.
>>> I tried setting a hotspot on number 2 by pressing ctrl shift option 2.
>>> WHen i 

Some Information for A T & T Wireless Customers Who Recently Enabled WiFi Calling or Who Were Recently Switched to HD Voicemail

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

As the following is extremely important to my enjoyment of iPhone and in so
much as I think it an important tool for many of us, I am going to post this
to both the Mac Visionaries and V iPhone mailing lists.

Please note that I can only verify the following on the A T & T Wireless
network.

Generally speaking, the default time it takes for an incoming call to be
sent to voicemail is approximately 20 seconds or, from the caller's point of
view, 4 rings.  

For many years, it has been possible to increase the time it takes an
incoming call to be sent to voicemail to as much as 30 seconds.  You might
not think 10 seconds would make that much of a difference but, believe me,
it does.  

Needless to say, I had my settings set to 30 seconds.  Although A T & T
Wireless customer service representatives would change this account setting,
upon request, it was actually possible, through a series of service dial
commands, to adjust the setting directly from iPhone.

Those of you who, like me, were using the increased value setting, noticed
that upon having your account provisioned for HD voicemail, a requirement in
order to take advantage of WiFi calling, lost the benefit of the increased
value.  That is to say, incoming calls, once again, were going to voicemail
after 20 seconds, instead of 30.  You may have also noticed that the service
dial commands, once used to manually adjust this setting, is no longer
valid.

Well, as it turns out, the delay value previously set, only applies to the
legacy voicemail system and not to the new HD voicemail system.

The good news is that you can call A T & T Wireless, 800-331-0500, and have
the customer service representatives adjust the incoming call setting but
you must be certain to tell the rep, as many of them are not yet aware, to
make the adjustment to the HD voicemail system and not the legacy system,
the system that first appears when an account is displayed.

Even better, the new system allows for even longer delay times than did the
legacy system.  I currently have my delay time set to 40 seconds.  It is
absolutely marvelous.  

Some of you may be wondering why one would want to have such a high delay
time.  The answer is that it gives one, more time to reach the phone, should
she/he be in a different room than the phone or time to dry his/her hands
before touching the phone, etc.  

One final thing, many representatives may not know that the new system delay
time can be adjusted; so if they do not know how to adjust the time,
graciously insist that it can be done and request that your call be
escalated to the next level of technical support.  

I am happy to say that a couple of acquaintances, with whom I first shared
this information, have, like me, taken advantage of this new feature set
and, also like me, are happier than clams in clam sauce (smile).

Good Luck and Enjoy,

Mark

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Re: More on hotspots.

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hello Anne and Anders,

the same issues occur on my german keyboard layout.

Regarding the answers of the accessibility team: I don’t think they let blind 
VO users work in their team and so, if someone’s not using VO on a daily base, 
a lot of issues do not occur because they show up randomly. I started to ignore 
the answer, it should depend on my device or other installed software, and my 
hope is they will keep it in mind if others report this issue. 

The second strategy is simply to call them. I experienced several times that 
they couldn’t duplicate an issue via e-mail. But when I called them, told them 
to take the same stepps I took, they suddenly could duplicate the issue and 
wrote a note about it. 

Once I called them and he couldn’t confirm my issue. Then I asked him wether he 
switched on VO and he appologized because he tried the behaviour I reported 
with VO switched off. So it might be good to tell them personally how to do it.

All the best 
Jürgen
> Am 29.10.2015 um 08:48 schrieb Anne Robertson :
> 
> Hello Anders,
> 
> If you do VO-k, does VoiceOver announce the hotspots correctly? If so, then 
> something very strange is happening.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:52, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I use swedish keyboard here.
>> Maybe this is the case here to.
>> I wonder why?
>> /A
>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:12, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Anders,
>>> 
>>> What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, 
>>> the French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have 
>>> numbers on the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, is 
>>> not supported with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters still 
>>> work. In that case, hotspots are a nightmare.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 
 2.
 I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
 So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
 stated?
 I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
 I keep you all posted if interested.
 /A
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Re: More on hotspots.

[David Chittenden]

I seriously doubt the contention that there are no blind users on Apple's 
accessibility team.

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> On 29 Oct 2015, at 22:26, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne and Anders,
> 
> the same issues occur on my german keyboard layout.
> 
> Regarding the answers of the accessibility team: I don’t think they let blind 
> VO users work in their team and so, if someone’s not using VO on a daily 
> base, a lot of issues do not occur because they show up randomly. I started 
> to ignore the answer, it should depend on my device or other installed 
> software, and my hope is they will keep it in mind if others report this 
> issue. 
> 
> The second strategy is simply to call them. I experienced several times that 
> they couldn’t duplicate an issue via e-mail. But when I called them, told 
> them to take the same stepps I took, they suddenly could duplicate the issue 
> and wrote a note about it. 
> 
> Once I called them and he couldn’t confirm my issue. Then I asked him wether 
> he switched on VO and he appologized because he tried the behaviour I 
> reported with VO switched off. So it might be good to tell them personally 
> how to do it.
> 
> All the best 
> Jürgen
>> Am 29.10.2015 um 08:48 schrieb Anne Robertson :
>> 
>> Hello Anders,
>> 
>> If you do VO-k, does VoiceOver announce the hotspots correctly? If so, then 
>> something very strange is happening.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:52, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I use swedish keyboard here.
>>> Maybe this is the case here to.
>>> I wonder why?
>>> /A
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:12, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello Anders,
 
 What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, 
 the French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have 
 numbers on the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, 
 is not supported with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters still 
 work. In that case, hotspots are a nightmare.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 
> 2.
> I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
> So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
> stated?
> I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
> I keep you all posted if interested.
> /A
 
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Re: clean my mac on El Capitan

[Eric Oyen]

well, given its current condition, if I try to charge it, there might be n 
explosive situation develop real fast. I have been debating whether or not to 
get a new battery or save what I can and hope to get a new macbook. given my 
bills of late, saving is out of the question.

-eric

On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> So could it explode?  Just be careful when using it and if you can use the 
> machine without the battery then that would be preferable.
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 00:46, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> basically, it aged. most Lithium Ion batteries start to swell a little with 
>> age. It also doesn't help if its left on recharge all the time. The battery 
>> for this white book was the original issue and started swelling about 2 
>> years ago. It got to the point where it was causing random keyboard key 
>> presses. Li-ion batteries are known for this type of issue. They are also 
>> massively unstable under the right conditions (its like having a hand 
>> grenade waiting to go off).
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> How does a battery get swollen?
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 02:22, Eric Oyen  wrote:
 
 right now, I am not even running with a battery. I am using only the power 
 supply to run this thing. the battery is swollen to the point of not even 
 being able to fit the case. Also, I don't have the funds to go and get it 
 replaced. so, I do what I can with what I got.
 
 -eric
 
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
 
> I wonder whether your battery is causing overheating.  I had this issue 
> on my old Macbook pro similar age as yours, and at that time a search on 
> the internet revealed that the likely cause was the age of the battery.  
> I had to change it and things had improved.  Just a suggestion.
>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 20:23, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> ok. well, I haven't installed El Capitan here as yet (not sure my 2007 
>> vintage whitebook would even allow it to install). THere are one or 2 
>> other issues I have been having on this white book of mine (some random 
>> crashes of voiceover, generally due to web page code viewed via safari). 
>> Also, lately, the fan has been running all the time, even when I have 
>> nothing going on the desktop. so far, looking through the logs hasn't 
>> revealed the issue.
>> 
>> any ideas?
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> MacPaw actually has an offering called CleanMyPC, which has no relation 
>>> to the tuneup utility BitDefender provides. If it has, I'm not aware of 
>>> it, since it is vastly different and only included with other products 
>>> and neither company has given credit to each other.
>>> 
>>> With that out of the way, you can trust CleanMyMac. I own a copy, 
>>> although it's for various reasons.
>>> 
>>> sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
>>> 
>>> runs  all maintenance scripts at the same time. You can verify they 
>>> have run by typing
>>> 
>>> ls -al /var/log/*.out
>>> 
>>> Saying that, beyond doing what the maintenance scripts do, they don't 
>>> actually clean up application leftovers. Depending on the app, you can 
>>> have support files, caches, plugins, libraries, preferences, and saved 
>>> states. The maintenance scripts primarily deal with logging, at least 
>>> from what I can tell when looking at them including log files. The 
>>> leftovers are really where I gain some space back. I used to look for 
>>> these manually.
>>> 
>>> Despite that "dragging an application to the trash deletes everything" 
>>> that isn't true with everything. I've found that to be the case with 
>>> most applications I have, but I still see some that leave associated 
>>> files around. You aren't going to get those unless you set up a cronjob 
>>> to look for them, either based on a schedule or when the maintenance 
>>> scripts last ran. Of course, looking for those paths is easy enough to 
>>> do, so it's not as big of a deal, but it's still time you could spend 
>>> on doing something else. That's been my own experiences ever since I 
>>> first started running OS X, in particular with apps not from the Mac 
>>> App Store. Looking through /library/Application Support, it's easy to 
>>> tell which apps require a bit more work before all of it is gone. Of 
>>> course, bottom line is that you don't actually need to shell out any 
>>> money for apps at all, since you can do it yourself. CleanMyMac and 
>>> Cocktail just make it easier. Oddly enough, the article only mentions 
>>> caching and logging, but not the application deletion misconception. I 
>>> always hear 

safari problem and question

[Singing Sparrow]

I have tried about five or six times already to go to any web sites 
using safari and nothing is going anywhere, no matter what web site i  try.


I have already deleted my history, and undid all auto filling in the 
preferences.


what can i do is there a way to reinstall safari? or will i end up 
reinstalling yosemity?


My internet connection is working fine with my windows computers i also 
use so the internet is fine.
  also on another note, how do you get voice over from completting 
items in safaris address bar? this is getting a bit anoying.


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Re: Curious About Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

You sure can!
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 8:00 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Can I inport my quicken account into checkbook pro?
> 
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> Hi:
> I use Checkbook Pro. I love it! The software is completely accessible. Splasm 
> customer service is awesome. I’ve beta tested some for thim in regards to 
> Voiceover.
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been looking for an OSX app that is generally similar to the Windows 
>> “Talking Checkbook” and have found “Checkbook” and “Checkbook Pro” so far.  
>> After reading the descriptions for these apps that the “Pro” version is 
>> probably more than I need.  I do have several questions about both or either 
>> versions:
>> 
>> - Is anyone out here a user of either version?
>> - Are these apps effectively developed to work with VoiceOver?
>> - Is customer support genuinely responsive to the requirements of blind 
>> customers?
>> 
>> * * * * * * * * *
>> Bill Gallik
>> wfgal...@icloud.com
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Re: still no new message sound in Mail

[Craig Werner]

I was one of the first people to report this problem to the VoiceOver
community. All sound preferences were set properly, and no amount of mail
sound to tweaking restored the new mail sound. I reported the problem to
Apple and was told by a rep that he had run into the problem with some
users, but it is not on the list of El Capitan emerging issues. For this
and other reasons, I rolled back to Yosemite 10.10.5.

Craig


On Thursday, October 29, 2015, george b  wrote:

> Tell me what to do to make a custom sound please
> thanks
>
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] still no new message sound in Mail
>
>Do you have a custom sound you can copy into your user library/sounds
> folder?  If so, I would try using that one just to see if that works.
>
>
> Take Care
>
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>
> > On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Katie Zodrow  > wrote:
> >
> > Hi, John its Katie. I tried using the glass sound effect when I checked
> for new mail 2 days ago, and nothing happened. Then I went back to the new
> mail sound and when I check for new messages, I still don’t hear anything.
> I’m having  no luck at this. In mail preferences in the general tab, I have
> the checkbox checked for play sounds for other mail actions. In the
> notification center, I have alerts and sounds checked for the mail app. The
> notification center is something new I haven’t seen on my Mac before since
> I upgraded from Snow Leopard. I’m not sure why this isn’t working.
> > Do you have any other ideas? Should I have someone at the Apple store
> look at my Mac again?
> > Thanks.
> > Katie
> >> On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:58 PM, John Panarese  > wrote:
> >>
> >>  I’d try the original new mail sound and see what happens. I am using
> it now, though I do prefer my custom sound and will probably go back to
> using it, since it was working.
> >>
> >>
> >> Take Care
> >>
> >> John D. Panarese
> >> Director
> >> Mac for the Blind
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> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Katie Zodrow  > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi, John. Normally I have the new message sound selected in Mail, but
> I changed the sound effect to glass instead. I checked the box after that
> when it said select ellipsis and closed out of mail preferences. I sent a
> test email to myself and thought the glass sound was going to work, but
> nothing happened when I got the email. Should I go back to the default mail
> sound or select a different sound?
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Katie
>  On Oct 26, 2015, at 3:52 PM, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
>  Did you try messing with the popup menu for the new mail sound and
> try different options. I just changed mine back to the default sound and it
> is working. It was not working initially, which was why I was using a
> custom sound I put on the system. However, now it is working.
> 
> 
>  Take Care
> 
>  John D. Panarese
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> 
> 
> > On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Katie Zodrow  > wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Mark and George. That’s exactly what happens to me with Mail
> too. I get the swishing send mail sound but no new mail sound when I
> receive messages. All the other sound effects and Voiceover work fine on my
> Mac.
> > I guess there’s a few of us that have this problem besides me. I’m
> glad I’m not the only one.
> > Katie
> >> On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:02 PM, M. Taylor  > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Katie,
> >>
> >> I'm curious, are you hearing sound effects in other applications
> such as the Messages app?
> >>
> >> Be sure that your system sound preferences are set correctly.
> >>
> >>