[MBZ] Re: 124 instrument cluster removal/tripmeter repair
Cluster's out; speedo's off. Thx, all. Next ?'s. Does the dial just pull off is it self indexing? I don't see any flats on what little of the shaft is visible. Don't see much point in going further if I'm going to have to send it out for recalibration after removing the thing, but it looks as though the face is secured by 2 small slot head screws if I can get it off I might begin to be able to see what's going on. Got as far as the Articles contents page looking for a cache but I'm not clever enough to get thru to the articles themselves. joe
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story???
i've got a safe in the floor that came with my house...combo was given at signing, but nowhere to be found...i figure i have to drill the bad guy first and be done with the situation,...or offer to get my plasma cutter out and open it up to show the guy it's empty...or hope my dog, jack the boxer, knows what to do next...so untill then, keep something handy that is why you bolt the sucker to the floor. No way to get that thing out. JabbaHursty wrote: i have gun safes because of the kid. once the wrong people know you have these guns, though, I imagine they just come over when you are at work at take the safe home with them
[MBZ] Re: 85 CD window woes
Eric, If it is like the 126 windows (like mine did) the last few teeth on the window regulator tend to wear down. This causes the window to just ratchet in place and not go upthe last inch or two. The teeth on the motor on mine were fine. MB windows electric motors don't stop automatically at the top and this may put extra stress on the regulator. I had to purchase a new one and it took about 2 hours to replace. Just make sure you are careful removing the inside door panel. They are held on with molded plastic ears that are part of the door panel. You must lift up on the door panel about 3/4 to 1 inch before removing the panel. If broken there is no way I have heard of to glue the tabs back on. Not a real hard job, just somewhat tight to get in and out. Of course lube everything inside while it is off. Contact me off list if you want more info. Hope this helps, Dennis Perkins 84 300SD Subject: [MBZ] 85 CD window woes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My 85 300CD passenger window is acting up a bit. it works well except it won't go up the final 1-2 inches. Anybody have any ideas? Is this likely a bent regulator, or just in need of lubrication? Haven't got around to pulling the door panel to look just yet. Eric 85 300 CD 81K
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story???
I already got faint when I heard he has his own rollback. Steve MacSween wrote: Easy, Kaleb may get faint when he hears this. mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's all this complaining about a dozen cars? Try something close to 100 in your back yard. Thirty five or forty Mercedes, a similar number of Nissan 200X and 300ZX plus three Jaguars. Ken If I can't fix it, it don't get fixed - Original Message - From: JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story??? 9 cars. it's a travesty here At 11:13 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: So it's not just me? Thank God, I thought I was just not right. I have four cars, three bikes, a van and a truck. On a good day, maybe two-three run... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Next thing you know, you wake up one morning to eight dead soldiers in the driveway and one barely working car, and all of a sudden the money seems to have gone away. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal/tripmeter repair
Joe Knight wrote: It's pretty clear from looking at the thing that meaningful access must be thru the front. I've tried tugging on the dial as hard as I dare to no effect except that the black disk that covers the center popped off easily enough; it was just glued on lightly. Not really visible in the 3rd pic, there's a small hole in the center of the hub directly above the shaft, leading me to think maybe a tiny puller might be needed to remove the dial w/o damage to the inner workings. Hard to believe nobody's gone any deeper into one of these things lived to tell about it. VDO lifts the needle off by lifting the center hub while pushing on the dial face with something like - let's see if I can describe it - imagine a pliers-like-device that opens (rather than closes) as you squeeze it. The jaws (both top and bottom) were forked so the lower jaw that pushes down on the face slips on either side of the shaft and the upper jaw that lifts the needle hub ALSO slips over the shaft - then as you squeeze, the needle is lifted on the shaft and finally pops off. I have been able to use a curved hemostat to accomplish much the same thing (but not nearly as easily or elegantly). The needle fits VERY snuggly on the shaft. On re assembly, the needle is forced back on with VERY firm pressure with the needle pointing to where it was neutral (plus or minus any error). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal/tripmeter repair
Heh-heh... I went deeper into a spare/junk 300E unit back when I had the squealing problem on the gasser. I tore it all apart, but I had ZERO confidence that it would be functional when I was done, not to mention anywhere close to accurate. I'm pretty sure that it's best left to the experts. However, the white-face gauge overlays are pretty popular, and those require needle removal to install. Hmmm. Someday I intend to tear down the spare unit again, and this time take photos of what's inside. On my previous attempt I didn't have time (and I didn't think about it until it was mostly re-assembled - ooops.) :-) -dm -- Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:31:34 -0700 From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal/tripmeter repair It's pretty clear from looking at the thing that meaningful access must be thru the front. I've tried tugging on the dial as hard as I dare to no effect except that the black disk that covers the center popped off easily enough; it was just glued on lightly. Not really visible in the 3rd pic, there's a small hole in the center of the hub directly above the shaft, leading me to think maybe a tiny puller might be needed to remove the dial w/o damage to the inner workings. Hard to believe nobody's gone any deeper into one of these things lived to tell about it. joe
RE: [MBZ] E300D
Larry,
What Troy said!
Jerry (95 E300D)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Troy Kocher
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] E300D
I wish it was 40mpg, best I've seen is 33mpg. I've had really found
the quality of the W124 I have is great! I don't know about the 1996
ones though, they have the same engine but W210 body. But is it LIGHT
years ahead of my W123 when it comes to being refined. . It is a
really nice car!
Troy
On 7/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Clay,
I noticed you have a 95 E300D - I'm thinking about a 95 or 96 for my wife
to
drive to work - 100 mi round trip daily - I have heard 40mpg is possible
-
and certainly desireable with todays high diesel prices! What are you
seeing in the real world?
Also, I've heard about the lower quality of the newer MBs - do you find it
less well built than your older MB's?
Any comments would be appreciated -
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
Re: [MBZ] What to use as test refrigerant on R-12 system
Dave M. wrote: Hi all, My friend has a W124 with no A/C. I pressed the schrader valve and there is still some pressure in the system, so it's not empty. I shorted the low pressure switch and the compressor runs, and there are bubbles (or something) visible in the sight glass. I did not have my manifold gauges with me to test pressures. I assume the system is low on R-12 at the moment. I hate to feed it precious R-12 just to have it leak out. I don't have a vacuum pump, so I really don't want to open the system. Is there anything I can feed in that will be compatible with R-12 (and cheap1), or am I stuck either taking the gamble (add R-12) or having to discharge, vacuum, and re-fill with a mineral-oil compatible replacement like Duracool, AutoFrost, or good 'ol R-12? He's on a tight (read: zero) budget but sure would like some cool air if possible. Suggestions welcome... :-) If you come up with a good solution let me know too. I have the same problems (and only three precious cans of R-12). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] obscure carb screw
The trick is getting the tension on the choke flaps set right. You need enough so that they close when cold but only enough. Too much and the plugs can foul out before the engine warms. The rest is fairly straight forward. You adjust the fast idle speed by opening the throttles fully and then you can turn the screw through a hole in the choke housing.
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal/tripmeter repair
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 02:33:06PM -0700, Joe Knight wrote: Don't recall having to detach the speedo cable at the tranny to get the ic out of the albatross. Is this really necessary or is there room to get a hand up in there after removing the lower access panel? Wagon's trip meter died a couple of weeks ago. Makes a quite audible clicking noise when the wagon's in motion so I'm thinking it's probably a broken gear rather than one just slipping on its shaft. Odo's still fine. Do I remember correctly that someone's found a source for a likely replacement gear if this is the case? It looks like you already tore it apart, Joe, but my 85 190D did that rather frequently - I needed to be authoritative with the reset button otherwise it would get confused and click. If it started clicking, I could just push the button in all the way, and it would stop clicking and start counting miles. There is probably something internally broken, since neither of my 87s do that, but it's been like that for going on two years now, and it used to be a 550+ mile per week car before I took it off the road. I'd be curious to hear what you find if you tear the cluster apart. K
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:12:32AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: so can the 14 heads be repaired at a machine shop, and if so, will the problem just come up again? Kaleb, Having *JUST* gone through replacing a cracked head on an 87 300D, I can say without a doubt that I would not waste my time, effort, blood, sweat, beer, money, and patience on the job if I was just replacing the head with another #14, or having the #14 on the car repaired. That said, with all the infernal gotchas being seen first hand, the next replacement will probably not take near as long. The car lights off and is more or less happy, but the pressure leak out the chain tensioner because some moron (who, me?) didn't have the alignment of the aluminum spacer washer between the tensioner and the head spot on perfect, and munched the washer. Oh well, I haven't talked to Rusty recently... K
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal/tripmeter repair
I has success removing the neelde from an economy gauge - using a pair of spoons (wife wasn't looking), one on each side, with care to maintain even pressure on both sides to pry it off. It was quite tight, and flew a few feet when it did come loose. I don't know if this will work on a speedometer, but it's what I'd try. VDO lifts the needle off by lifting the center hub while pushing on the dial face with something like - let's see if I can describe it - imagine a pliers-like-device that opens (rather than closes) as you squeeze it. The jaws (both top and bottom) were forked so the lower jaw that pushes down on the face slips on either side of the shaft and the upper jaw that lifts the needle hub ALSO slips over the shaft - then as you squeeze, the needle is lifted on the shaft and finally pops off. I have been able to use a curved hemostat to accomplish much the same thing (but not nearly as easily or elegantly). -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] What to use as test refrigerant on R-12 system
I'm certainly no expert, but I'd be inclined to wait until I could put some gauges on it, or even pay someone a few bucks to reliably tell me what kind of pressure the system's seeing. My recollection is that with R-12 you need to add enough to eliminate the bubbles. joe On 7/4/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My friend has a W124 with no A/C. I pressed the schrader valve and there is still some pressure in the system, so it's not empty. I shorted the low pressure switch and the compressor runs, and there are bubbles (or something) visible in the sight glass. I did not have my manifold gauges with me to test pressures. I assume the system is low on R-12 at the moment. I hate to feed it precious R-12 just to have it leak out. I don't have a vacuum pump, so I really don't want to open the system. Is there anything I can feed in that will be compatible with R-12 (and cheap1), or am I stuck either taking the gamble (add R-12) or having to discharge, vacuum, and re-fill with a mineral-oil compatible replacement like Duracool, AutoFrost, or good 'ol R-12? He's on a tight (read: zero) budget but sure would like some cool air if possible. Suggestions welcome...
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed
Sounds like you're getting close, Kevin. When do I get to take it for a spin? joe On 7/4/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:12:32AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: so can the 14 heads be repaired at a machine shop, and if so, will the problem just come up again? Kaleb, Having *JUST* gone through replacing a cracked head on an 87 300D, I can say without a doubt that I would not waste my time, effort, blood, sweat, beer, money, and patience on the job if I was just replacing the head with another #14, or having the #14 on the car repaired. That said, with all the infernal gotchas being seen first hand, the next replacement will probably not take near as long. The car lights off and is more or less happy, but the pressure leak out the chain tensioner because some moron (who, me?) didn't have the alignment of the aluminum spacer washer between the tensioner and the head spot on perfect, and munched the washer. Oh well, I haven't talked to Rusty recently...
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story???
i bought a fancy gun case from this dude. i asked him why he was selling it. he said it was because his guns were stolen. so i say oh, man, guess you should have had them secured. he has them in a safe bolted down. they just took crowbars and pried the safe out and took the whole thing home At 08:31 PM 7/4/2005, you wrote: i've got a safe in the floor that came with my house...combo was given at signing, but nowhere to be found...i figure i have to drill the bad guy first and be done with the situation,...or offer to get my plasma cutter out and open it up to show the guy it's empty...or hope my dog, jack the boxer, knows what to do next...so untill then, keep something handy that is why you bolt the sucker to the floor. No way to get that thing out. JabbaHursty wrote: i have gun safes because of the kid. once the wrong people know you have these guns, though, I imagine they just come over when you are at work at take the safe home with them ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story???
yup, fiasco after fiasco after fiasco. they never ended even when i signed i think it was worthwhile though in the end. i really like the house At 09:30 PM 7/4/2005, you wrote: yea I remember you had a fiasco involved with it. YOu should come out for the next okieQ, we have an impressive injun casino with poker nearby. JabbaHursty wrote: knutsac although yours should be better as i'm in a more expensive place and yours cost more than mine mine is pretty darn impressive for the money. the executor of the state was a complete jerk and everyone else who offered to buy it backed out in the end, so i was able to get some concessions took me 4 months to buy though At 11:07 AM 7/4/2005, you wrote: so who told you your country estate was a shack compared to my country estate? JabbaHursty wrote: it kinda is sad what has happened to me and my country estate is small (1650 square feet) but it is heavily wooded and i really don't have neighbors on 3 sides (closest neighbors are across the street. neighbors on sides and back can be seen in winter, but invisible right now), so it isn't that bad. i like it even though i'm informed that my house is a shack compared to Kleb's. i very much do want a little house in the mountains. i don't have the money though. spent it all on junk :( 11 guns so far. pretty normal, huh? At 09:51 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: Ah, a man of impeccable taste, deep wisdom, and obviously widely read in the relevant literature. Hurst used to be that way. Now he just sends one-word missives, sells Chinese knockoff parts and polishes his handguns at his vast country estate. I despair for the future of western democracy. It may end up worse than the immediate present, which is saying little indeed. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect it is a vast right wing conspiracy to not only disenfranchise the owners of older vehicles, but to keep us from access to American fuels! By submitting to control of the list by Kaleb, we will no longer be able to keep our cars on the road, or fueled and will be forced to accept his offers of $500 for our wonderful rides. We should all rise up and throw off his despicable yoke and once more look to MBZ.org for less than continual list uptime and site access. While we wait, we need to change our oil to cheap chinese imitation petrol based goop and stock up on the green coolant. Tires should never be Kuhmo, but instead another chinese knock off. As for fuse...? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' FUSES On Saturday, July 2, 2005, at 07:13 AM, BenzBarn wrote: I thought this was supposed to be a temporary measure until Richard got MBZ back up and running? Now you're saying we don't/didn't need him in the first place? Nice, very nice... Is this the hostile take over I kind of thought it was? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL
[MBZ] Re: 1980 230T still for sale
good morning! i still have the car sitting here in my driveway; wife would really like to see it go soon; she has voiced this opinion frequently in the last weeks! make me an offer, gents $300 obo? sincerely, todd 410-441-0201 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) i have a 1980 230T which i planned on restoring, but what with kids, work, wife, and a new small business; well, it just doesn't look like it is going to happen i'd rather not part it out, as it is a neat, unusual model for this area and i think it deserves to be fixed up, not stripped down and scattered all over the place! its got 131k miles on the clock. its a 4 cyl, 4 speed with a/c. all original with the alloys. it has the european bumpers and one european headlight (the original owner must have cracked one of them and had to replace it with a US style one). the car had sat for 9 years in the basement of a barn, and it only took an oil change, gas flush, spark plug cleanup, and new battery and vrm it started right up and ran; no smoking or noises whatsoever. the car is very straight (i see no wreck damage), glass is very good. interior is nice. body has rust spots on it in the usual places. has all 5 factory alloy wheels. color is a yellow beige. i'm asking $500 or B/O for the car. i am located near Newark, DE. i have the title to the car here, also. i do have some digital pics of the car, and can take more and email them to anyone who is interested (just shoot me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and i will forward the pictures to you). thanks guys. sincerely, todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story???
Oh God! Now I don't feel so alone. Should we start a support group? I have one car in the garage and five in the driveway. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JabbaHursty Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:38 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story??? 9 cars. it's a travesty here At 11:13 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: So it's not just me? Thank God, I thought I was just not right. I have four cars, three bikes, a van and a truck. On a good day, maybe two-three run... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Next thing you know, you wake up one morning to eight dead soldiers in the driveway and one barely working car, and all of a sudden the money seems to have gone away. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Re: 1980 230T still for sale
I would be all over it, but, you are way too far away from me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good morning! i still have the car sitting here in my driveway; wife would really like to see it go soon; she has voiced this opinion frequently in the last weeks! make me an offer, gents $300 obo? sincerely, todd 410-441-0201 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] i have a 1980 230T which i planned on restoring, but what with kids, work, wife, and a new small business; well, it just doesn't look like it is going to happen i'd rather not part it out, as it is a neat, unusual model for this area and i think it deserves to be fixed up, not stripped down and scattered all over the place! its got 131k miles on the clock. its a 4 cyl, 4 speed with a/c. all original with the alloys. it has the european bumpers and one european headlight (the original owner must have cracked one of them and had to replace it with a US style one). the car had sat for 9 years in the basement of a barn, and it only took an oil change, gas flush, spark plug cleanup, and new battery and vrm it started right up and ran; no smoking or noises whatsoever. the car is very straight (i see no wreck damage), glass is very good. interior is nice. body has rust spots on it in the usual places. has all 5 factory alloy wheels. color is a yellow beige. i'm asking $500 or B/O for the car. i am located near Newark, DE. i have the title to the car here, also. i do have some digital pics of the car, and can take more and email them to anyone who is interested (just shoot me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and i will forward the pictures to you). thanks guys. sincerely, todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed
Kevin, There isn't really any alignment needed on the tensioner seal. More likely (?) you had the wrong one. There is an early tensioner and a late/improved tensioner. The newer one requires a larger aluminum O-ring seal. If you put a small O-ring on a newer/larger tensioner, it would get all boogered up. The O-ring should fit neatly on the tensioner seat. Something to consider, anyway. This is documented in the FSM somewhere. My white and blue cars had different tensioners, that's how I discovered this little tidbit... another 'gotcha' to add to your list! :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:53:54 -0700 From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed The car lights off and is more or less happy, but the pressure leak out the chain tensioner because some moron (who, me?) didn't have the alignment of the aluminum spacer washer between the tensioner and the head spot on perfect, and munched the washer. Oh well, I haven't talked to Rusty recently... K
Re: [MBZ] 5 Cylinder 300SDL?
Does anyone have a diagram or photo which shows the hoses that should be disconnected and placed into the jar with the Diesel Purge? On 7/2/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Arnold wrote: Good power, I assume bad injector at idle? Looks like I call that Rusty fellow and ask him for some diesel purge, I can supply my own Coke bottle. Never used it before, just rig up a line to suck from can and return to Coke bottle? The supply and return are into the SAME container. One with at least a 1 opening is easiest. I use a large (clean) mayonnaise jar or a coffee can. Then run the engine until almost all of the Diesel Purge is gone (don't let it run completely dry or you may have problems restarting the engine without a LOT of cranking on an OM60x engine - or a lot of hand pumping with an OM61x or older engine). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OMG
I must say, those red painted wheels are so very funky! On 7/4/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it may involve more of the whacky tabakky than some cider that went off. IIRC, there was a kid while I was growing up who would take perfectly good Revel models and paint them in just such garish colours. Last I saw him he was out cold with a bag of modeling glue behind the shed On Sunday, July 3, 2005, at 07:18 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: Yes, well, he obviously had a vision for that car. One probably born of too much homemade cider and meat lover's pizza, too late at nite. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This P.O.S. is already more than twice what I would pay for it. Had an elephant defecated on it it would be worth more, just for the fertilizer value On Saturday, July 2, 2005, at 02:48 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=6315item= 4559584210rd=1ssPageName=WDVW ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Re: [Banned] OH MY GOD
10 way power seats Let me count the ways: up, down, left, right, up-left, up-right, down-left, down-right, back to front, upside down. On 7/4/05, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ye-es, that sums it up pretty well. -MMM- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal/tripmeter repair
Sorry, Chase. I was a little preoccupied w/ my own i/c woes last night. Cluster removal on a 124 is straightforward. I made a pair of hooks out of maybe ~14 pieces of clothes hanger wire by bending short hooks in one end making a fist sized loop in the other to act as handles. Mine was in fairly tight so I used a plastic spreader to work some 303 Protectant in around the edges to act as a lube. Used the same spreader near the upper corners to open a little gap to ease insertion of the hooks. Turn the hooks to engage flanges on the edge of the i/c and pull, working one side first and then the other, repeatedly. Best purchase for the hooks is above, but right next to the upper corners on either side. Work carefully so as to avoid losing purchase and nicking the edges of the i/c. I'll try to remember to take a pic of the cluster for reference post it w/ the speedo pics in a day or so. Once it's free, you can pull it out just far enough to slip a hand in from the passenger side to pull all the connectors and unscrew the speedo cable. Be gentle on the cable; book says to pull the cable at the tranny to avoid binding it, but as Marshalll pointed out that's not really necessary on a 124. Expect some of the connectors to be really tight, but persistence will pay. After it's out, changing the bulbs is a piece o' cake. joe On 7/4/05, Chase Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been meaning to ask about this for a while. One of my instrument panel lights burnt out and I want to replace it, but I can't figure out how to get to it. The car in question is a 300D 2.5Turbo, without telescoping steering column. Thanks, Chase M. K. From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 instrument cluster removal/tripmeter repair Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:11:43 -0400 Joe Knight wrote: Don't recall having to detach the speedo cable at the tranny to get the ic out of the albatross. Is this really necessary or is there room to get a hand up in there after removing the lower access panel? Wagon's trip meter died a couple of weeks ago. Makes a quite audible clicking noise when the wagon's in motion so I'm thinking it's probably a broken gear rather than one just slipping on its shaft. Odo's still fine. Do I remember correctly that someone's found a source for a likely replacement gear if this is the case? IC will come far enough out of a 124 (with the steering wheel in the fully extended position) to get your hand behind it to disconnect the electrical and speedo cables. There's a clip down on the steering column support that may need to be released. I have to disconnect at the transmission on a 201. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story???
In the subject line tell the rest of us your going to talk about something other than Benz stuff, have some courtesy. On 7/5/05, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been my experience. I was raised in a house where a loaded gun was kept behind the front door all the time. This was years ago when we had to hunt for our food. All us children had a healthy respect for guns because we saw things die when the guns were used. The problem now is that children are insulated from such traumatic scenes. The only consequences they see from guns is what they see on TV, which they know is not real. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:12 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] mbz.org http://mbz.org what the story??? ...If you have kids in the house, you need to start early by training them to NOT touch guns and to respect them etc. I tought our kids this, I used to every once in a while leave a gun laying around somewhere that they would see it(unloaded of course) as a test. They always see it and right away come get an adult. Education is the key to gun safety. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed
All this talk about those new-fangled 124 wagons being the best in the universe makes me mad! I just love my 1983 300TD with 275 K miles. It has enough pep to pass almost anyone on the highway, enough room to carry anything reasonably sized, is as trustworthy as an old hound dog, and has enough rust to keep me just the slightest bit on edge. The engines don't break, either (though I've had to do two transmission rebuilds). On 7/5/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, There isn't really any alignment needed on the tensioner seal. More likely (?) you had the wrong one. There is an early tensioner and a late/improved tensioner. The newer one requires a larger aluminum O-ring seal. If you put a small O-ring on a newer/larger tensioner, it would get all boogered up. The O-ring should fit neatly on the tensioner seat. Something to consider, anyway. This is documented in the FSM somewhere. My white and blue cars had different tensioners, that's how I discovered this little tidbit... another 'gotcha' to add to your list! :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:53:54 -0700 From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed The car lights off and is more or less happy, but the pressure leak out the chain tensioner because some moron (who, me?) didn't have the alignment of the aluminum spacer washer between the tensioner and the head spot on perfect, and munched the washer. Oh well, I haven't talked to Rusty recently... K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
RE: [MBZ] Mono valve???
No doubt George found the copper that the Germans use was too soft to be used with anything but his special softer brushes, eh? For those missing the sarcasm, it is there in spades. I got a set of Russ's brushes in the special order, and have found them to be outstanding. So his source, Schink Graphite, must have the process down pretty well after learning it from an old world German with a thick accent. I think I am going to try http://www.carbonbrush.com/automotivebrush.htm the next time I need brushes and see what happens. Good luck to Don, maybe he will have a report for us on his activities this weekend with the LED's etc. Richard --- Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russ - According to George Murphy the issue was not just to get the brushes to fit, it was the hardness of the brush compound. George found that the brushes that the Germans used were of a much softer composition than the ones we make here. Evidently the local brushes being harder caused premature commutator wear. That's what makes his special. Barry __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story???
It's the wives/significant others who need a support group started, or should I say a teaching group ;-). With carefully selected teaching materials This is OUR support group... we don't need no support, we just need cheap parts!! Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh God! Now I don't feel so alone. Should we start a support group? I have one car in the garage and five in the driveway. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JabbaHursty Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:38 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story??? 9 cars. it's a travesty here At 11:13 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: So it's not just me? Thank God, I thought I was just not right. I have four cars, three bikes, a van and a truck. On a good day, maybe two-three run... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Next thing you know, you wake up one morning to eight dead soldiers in the driveway and one barely working car, and all of a sudden the money seems to have gone away. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing problems on my '72 250C
Do you have a fuel pressure regulator in line after the fuel pump. These carbs only need a few pounds of fuel pressure and the floats may not be able to shut off anything over 4 or 5 lbs pressure. A proper fuel pump ( not electric ) might be your first cure. Check your choke flaps to see if they're working right.
[MBZ] mbz.org
Well the word from Rusty is that mbz.org may never be back. So this little list may in fact be the replacment after all. I have not done anything about a website because I didnt want to step on toes or anything regarding mbz.org. If it never does come back up, then I (we) need to look into getting a website up. I really do not know much about that but could learn I suppose. We might need to see if anybody here wants to partner up with me and handle setting up/maintaining a website. Once I know for sure what is going on I can get the space set up for it and then get a site designed. As for the articles and stuff, not sure what all on the old site might be copyrighted or how that would work, but most if it came from list members in the first place. We will probably need to try and rebuild that stuff if possible. Anyways, just stay tuned, will see how it plays out. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 5 Cylinder 300SDL?
andrew strasfogel wrote: Does anyone have a diagram or photo which shows the hoses that should be disconnected and placed into the jar with the Diesel Purge? Andrew, There are TWO metal lines that run from the fuel tank to the drivers side inner fender where two flexible lines connect the supply line to the inline fuel filter and the return line to the fuel return circuit (either from the large filter or from the return port on the injection pump). It is these two flexinle lines that are disconnected and immersed in the the Diesel Purge container. It is important that the flex lines be reconnected to the correct steel lines so identify them and mark them in some way. If they are incorrectly connected, you will run out of fuel when there are still several gallons of fuel in the tank AND the fuel tank screen will NOT function except on fuel being returned to the tank (fuel that has already been filtered twice). I attached a couple of pages from the maintenance manual showing the inline filter for several diesel models. The flex hoses lead to the right in each picture (and connect to the steel fuel supply line attached to the inner fender) is ONE of the two lines that is disconnected and goes into the Diesel Purge jar. The OTHER flex line is the one that attaches to the adjacent steel line on the inner fender and is shown better in the Performance Products picture (there used to be a diagram in the Performance Products catalog - also attached). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm 0781.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document DieselPurge.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed
andrew strasfogel wrote:
All this talk about those new-fangled 124 wagons being the best in the
universe makes me mad! I just love my 1983 300TD with 275 K miles.
It has enough pep to pass almost anyone on the highway, enough room to
carry anything reasonably sized, is as trustworthy as an old hound
dog, and has enough rust to keep me just the slightest bit on edge.
The engines don't break, either (though I've had to do two
transmission rebuilds).
Andrew, I owned 3 different 123 wagons ('80, 82 '85) and was convinced
they were the ULTIMATE wagon (each was a modest improvement over the
previous model) UNTIL I drove a 124 wagon from Pgh to Washington DC and
back in late '87. I swapped in a minute and have NEVER regretted it
(even when enduring most of the EXPENSIVE repairs unique to the 124)!
The 123 is more rugged, will probably last longer (there is no evidence
that the OM60x engines fail any sooner as long as it's NOT an OM603
turbo that's been overheated) though 123s WILL rust sooner. 123s will
probably ultimately cost less to maintain. BUT 123s DON'T DRIVE NEARLY
AS WELL - not even close. I've made dozens of 2-3kmi trips in both
models and the 124 is a quantum improvement over the 123. It IS the
ultimate wagon (I do plan to audition a NEW C class wagon in the next
few months).
Marshall
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Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed
do the 124s rust up north? i ask this because outside of a few common
spots, I am yet to see a 124 with rust. just looking at my 109 and 115
brings up bubbles or rust, my 123s have considerable rust, but my 2 124s
show nearly nothing.
At 01:08 PM 7/5/2005, you wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
All this talk about those new-fangled 124 wagons being the best in the
universe makes me mad! I just love my 1983 300TD with 275 K miles. It
has enough pep to pass almost anyone on the highway, enough room to
carry anything reasonably sized, is as trustworthy as an old hound
dog, and has enough rust to keep me just the slightest bit on edge. The
engines don't break, either (though I've had to do two
transmission rebuilds).
Andrew, I owned 3 different 123 wagons ('80, 82 '85) and was convinced
they were the ULTIMATE wagon (each was a modest improvement over the
previous model) UNTIL I drove a 124 wagon from Pgh to Washington DC and
back in late '87. I swapped in a minute and have NEVER regretted it (even
when enduring most of the EXPENSIVE repairs unique to the 124)!
The 123 is more rugged, will probably last longer (there is no evidence
that the OM60x engines fail any sooner as long as it's NOT an OM603 turbo
that's been overheated) though 123s WILL rust sooner. 123s will probably
ultimately cost less to maintain. BUT 123s DON'T DRIVE NEARLY AS WELL -
not even close. I've made dozens of 2-3kmi trips in both models and the
124 is a quantum improvement over the 123. It IS the ultimate wagon (I do
plan to audition a NEW C class wagon in the next few months).
Marshall
--
Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
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Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing problems on my '72 250C
How's the ignition? Does your car have that bastardized semi-electronic/semi-breaker point setup with the control box conveniently located under the battery tray? If so, an aftermarket electronic ignition like a Pertronix would make a big difference. The stock setup is a huge headache. I'd also second the advisory to look at the fuel cutoff solenoids in the carburetor bases. If they aren't energizing, your car will never run right. Russ M Joseph Shaw wrote: Okay, I have asked several things about this, so you are either probably really tired of hearing about it, or at least really familiar with it by now. I rebuilt the carbs over the course of the past two or three weeks. Started it yesterday, and it started up well. It will idle run for a while (ten or twenty seconds) but then always dies out-regardless of whether I am applying throttle, letting off throttle, etc. Simply will not stay running, though it usually runs smoothly and sounds good while it is running. Any suggestions/ideas on what this could be? Usually after it dies I can restart it, though often I have to pour a little dab of gas into the carbs to get it started-does not like to cold start on its own the first time. I will also say that it just GUZZLES gas-like if I fill a pint bottle of gas and have it hooked up to the pump, by the time the ten-twenty seconds are over, the bottle is empty. That would equate to a gallon every 2.5 minutes, which would be 2.5 MPG if travelling at 65 MPH! Any suggestions? I have the proper/recommended after-market electric fuel pump on it, but, again, this si the one that is SUPPOSED to be the proper one. It had the same problem before I put this pump on it, but still had an electric-of the same PSI rating. It had not been run for about five years prior to me buying it, if that adds any info of note. Any ideas? Help! Thanks! Michael ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon buyers guide needed
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:23:43AM -0600, Dave M. wrote: Kevin, There isn't really any alignment needed on the tensioner seal. More likely (?) you had the wrong one. There is an early tensioner and a late/improved tensioner. The newer one requires a larger aluminum O-ring seal. If you put a small O-ring on a newer/larger tensioner, it would get all boogered up. The O-ring should fit neatly on the tensioner seat. Something to consider, anyway. This is documented in the FSM somewhere. My white and blue cars had different tensioners, that's how I discovered this little tidbit... another 'gotcha' to add to your list! This was the tensioner and ring off the #14 head, with nothing done to them, just installed after filling with oil since it sat forever. It is plainly visible on the aluminum washer that the tensioner did not seat centered on the washer, and the washer was damaged as a result. I doubt the line will be visible on a digital picture. The washer did fit neatly on the tensioner, but in fiddling with the tensioner to get it threaded, it lost alignment. K
Re: [MBZ] OMG
That is just so wrong on so many points, perhaps the worst being the 20 sq. Yards of matching bone nawgahide for the interior You could make a set of sails for the thing with that much nawgahide. Musta been a good deal on nawgas down in Jawja. --R Steve MacSween wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=6315item= 4559584210rd=1ssPageName=WDVW ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org what the story???
Was it kind of a reddish brown stuff gunked up in there? --R JabbaHursty wrote: my .45 was so dirty it took a whole bottle of solvent to get it cleaner.
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing problems on my '72 250C
In a message dated 7/5/2005 11:33:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will also say that it just GUZZLES gas-like if I fill a pint bottle of gas and have it hooked up to the pump, by the time the ten-twenty seconds are over, the bottle is empty. That would equate to a gallon every 2.5 minutes, which would be 2.5 MPG if travelling at 65 MPH! Any suggestions? I have the proper/recommended after-market electric fuel pump on it, but, again, this si the one that is SUPPOSED to be the proper one. It had the same problem before I put this pump on it, but still had an electric-of the same PSI rating. It had not been run for about five years prior to me buying it, if that adds any info of note. Michael, Doesn't that fuel system have a return line back to the tank. That would be where your excess fuel is going. Also, the ones I am familiar with would have a pressure regulator (restrictor) in the return line. If that is not functioning you may not be building enough pressure to overcome the float resistance. Let us know what you find. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 136 K miles
[MBZ] NEED ATS bundt wheel center caps
Gump got new shoes and wheels, but they are not oem bundts. Aftermarket ATS bundts with center hole smaller than benz wheels. Anybody know where to score a set of center caps? Would like laurel or tri star -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org
That is unfortunate. Does anyone have a story on this, that is reasonably factual? Or is it best just left like a sleeping dog? Kaleb, the quick and dirty answer to your query on the articles is that none of the material **created by others** was legally copyright unless mbz.org paid the writer for it, even a token payment ($1) makes it legal. Richard would have copyright on his own material or other material that was unsigned, however, unless of course someone steps forward to prove they authored it and did not relinquish copyright. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the word from Rusty is that mbz.org may never be back. So this little list may in fact be the replacment after all. I have not done anything about a website because I didnt want to step on toes or anything regarding mbz.org. If it never does come back up, then I (we) need to look into getting a website up. I really do not know much about that but could learn I suppose. We might need to see if anybody here wants to partner up with me and handle setting up/maintaining a website. Once I know for sure what is going on I can get the space set up for it and then get a site designed. As for the articles and stuff, not sure what all on the old site might be copyrighted or how that would work, but most if it came from list members in the first place. We will probably need to try and rebuild that stuff if possible. Anyways, just stay tuned, will see how it plays out.
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org
Darn it I knew I should of leeched the website!! On 7/5/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is unfortunate. Does anyone have a story on this, that is reasonably factual? Or is it best just left like a sleeping dog? Kaleb, the quick and dirty answer to your query on the articles is that none of the material **created by others** was legally copyright unless mbz.orghttp://mbz.org paid the writer for it, even a token payment ($1) makes it legal. Richard would have copyright on his own material or other material that was unsigned, however, unless of course someone steps forward to prove they authored it and did not relinquish copyright. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the word from Rusty is that mbz.org http://mbz.org may never be back. So this little list may in fact be the replacment after all. I have not done anything about a website because I didnt want to step on toes or anything regarding mbz.org http://mbz.org. If it never does come back up, then I (we) need to look into getting a website up. I really do not know much about that but could learn I suppose. We might need to see if anybody here wants to partner up with me and handle setting up/maintaining a website. Once I know for sure what is going on I can get the space set up for it and then get a site designed. As for the articles and stuff, not sure what all on the old site might be copyrighted or how that would work, but most if it came from list members in the first place. We will probably need to try and rebuild that stuff if possible. Anyways, just stay tuned, will see how it plays out. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] What to use as test refrigerant on R-12 system
I understand this problem what I did was to use a gas that I found out was a refrigerant it was of all things computer key board cleaner... I have a side can tap so it worked just like the r 12 I had a major leak and it was easy to find actually I needed to blow old oil and debris out of a system and this worked fine then I added oil , charged the system and let it run for 4 or five weeks when there was no pressure loss I was assured of a tite system I then evacuated the system and evacuated the system and added the correct refrigerant and it worked ( now I know there are going to be a lot of neg stuff said here ) this system still works fine both of them ! ) the reason I did not just was air was because I needed a DRY GAS and air has way too much moisture in it and also it is not condensable gas. actually any dry gas can be used to test for leaks mike collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 13:40 -0700, Rory Sena wrote: Darn it I knew I should of leeched the website!! http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mbz.org here ya go... JGraham
RE: [MBZ] mbz.org
Oh man, thanks! We are rollin' now baby. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JGraham Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:52 PM To: Mercedes mailing list; Rory Sena Subject: Re: [MBZ] mbz.org On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 13:40 -0700, Rory Sena wrote: Darn it I knew I should of leeched the website!! http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mbz.org here ya go... JGraham ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] TD parts car?
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=18220item=4560280090rd=1 german 92 250td, at 1100 euros -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] What to use as test refrigerant on R-12 system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand this problem what I did was to use a gas that I found out was a refrigerant it was of all things computer key board cleaner... Isn't that just regular old R134a?
[MBZ] squeaky something
I have been trying without success to diagnose a squeaky sound from somewhere in my 240D. This seems to happen while just rolling along a country road, usually after touching the brakes. The sound of a bird or cricket chirping will occure for 3 or 4 revolutions of the wheels and is quite loud. I have checked all the pads and they are good. I have ruled out the parking brake and I am leaning toward rear hub bearings. I have not yet ruled out rear brakes but can tell you that stepping on the brake peddle has no effect on the noise with the exception of a slight clicking on the left rear. The noise startes just cruising along about 30-40mph, it doesn't seem to matter if I touch the brake pedal or not, but it does seem to occure more frequently after touching the brake peddle. I'm thinking either the pads, caliper hanging, or rear-hub bearings at this point. Nothing in the PO's records of the rear hubs or calipers being rebuilt, but I did change the rear pads (both sides) last summer. The rear hubs on both sides are very hot to the touch after a short trip, (say less than 10 miles). Brian from Columbia MO '82 240D 285,7XX
[MBZ] This is Nice... ;-)~
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=18214item=4559432730rd=1 Krankwagon Well, we think the Ghostbuster car is cool -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] mbz.org
Cool. Very cool. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: JGraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rory Sena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mbz.org On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 13:40 -0700, Rory Sena wrote: Darn it I knew I should of leeched the website!! http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mbz.org here ya go... JGraham ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Grey market cars
Slow it will be, but with a manual, you should be able to row it fairly well up to a good speed. I would figure the transmission will be steep enough to allow you to hit some highway speeds. On Tuesday, July 5, 2005, at 02:52 PM, Kevin wrote: On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 02:45:46PM -0700, redghost wrote: 92 200D w124 5 speed Provided you typed that right, MAN that's gonna be a slow car. K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
