Re: [MBZ] diesel prices coming down
Well Im not old I have seen the price go down. I do recall very clearly here that the day of 911 the price went up to as high as 1.79(that was VERY high then), maybe higher. Then it started going down and it actually got down to as low as .79 a gallon here for a week or so. Then slowly sort of stabilized at 1.09 or so. Gabriel S. wrote: 2 Questions: 1. In the past 50 or more years have you older guys ever seen the price of fuel actually go down? 2. Any of you guys out in Southern California and if yes, are there any diesel get togethers/drives in the area? I've heard of a porsche Southern Cali to Carmel drive but what about diesel? On 10/31/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just filled up at 2.49. Which is still at least $1 a gallon too high. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for diesel prices to keep coming down over the next few weeks. Heating oil degree days are forecasted at 87,some 41 below normal. Above normal temperatures for the entire eastern 2/3rds of the country for the next 8-14 day period. (from noaa) dan elliott 82 300d-t 87kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 10:58:05PM -0500, TimothyPilgrim wrote: Well, bad news. I went and broke my extractor bit in the pilot hole. Looks like I've going to have to submit and take the case into a machine shop and get a pro to drill it out. Extractors don't often work since they break too easily. If you can get a bite on it, vise grips and heat work awesome. That failing, get some left hand drill bits and some cutting oil and wear it out. Though, with the part it is stuck in removed, I'd probably use the most powerful tool in my tool box - the credit card - and hop in another partially running vehicle and take it to a machine shop. K
[MBZ] FW: Spare Fuel Tank
Bob wrote: There were aux tanks made especially to fit in the trunk. I've never seen one covered with carpet, if, in fact, it's behind that carpet. I'm not sure how big they were. I'd sure like to find one, however. There is one on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8011462019rd= 1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/2005
Re: [MBZ] Seat upgrades? (OT)
Back in the day, I had a 66 Bronco U110, the factory ragtop. The seat was terrible. I got a couple of volvo seats and turned a heap you could not stand to sit in for more than 30 minutes into a comfortable truck. Other than repairs, I have never tried to mess with MB seats, although i agree that they are not as comfortable as volvo seats, or Audi 4000/Quantum seats. I have seen pictures of recaro seats put in MBs, and i am sure I have seen some in person, but not sat in, or driven an MB with them. It seemed to be mostly an LA thing. MB Diesel content:(I always wanted to put a MB diesel in the Bronco, but never did.) I did take out the 170 and put in a 289, and that was MAJOR surgery. Frame, body, and other cutting and welding. Loren At 12:20 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote: Gabriel writes: The guy I bought my car from also replaced his Mercedes with a Lexus saying that the seats offered better lumbar support for his wife with a bad back. I've always enjoyed pretty well designed ergonomic seats in Volvos and Audis. Two of my Audis had relatively comfortable Recaro designed/made sport seats, and it's the seats (and the 3 spoke sport steering wheel) that I missed from my S6 wagon. My mechanic's wife drove an '89 300E for a number of years, and he had the seats restuffed to help ease his back issues. So, here's the question - has anyone tried retrofitting other seats into a W124? Perhaps later model MB sport seats? Audi sport seats? The Audi and MB share seat control buttons; I wonder if there's *any* chance that the mounting hardware is compatible. There's a pair of CLK sport seats on ebay now, for reasonable money...course I'd have to find a matching black leather back seat... If I pursue this, I'll also have to figure out how to wire the seat heaters... Thoughts? Any BTDTs? Lee '93 300 2.5L td 175K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Gump muffler
Marshall Booth wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren wrote:It is officially a resonator As near . Please be aware that if you have a new exhaust installed somewhere offering Lifetime Guarantee on the muffler, the resonator will not get the same warranty! Simply because it's called a resonator and not a muffler. I think technically, the resonator is not as full of baffles as a real muffler. Also, the resonator can be in any location - either at the front or the rear of the car. FWIW, My MGB has a resonator at the rear of the car and is often somtimes removed for a slightly louder sound level - The Bosal front pipe (from exhaust manifold to resonator), resonator and muffler (essentially the entire exhaust system) on my normally aspirated 190Ds are warranted for as long as I own the cars. I have to supply the labor! Bosal has replaced one resonator that failed prematurely (after 7 years) on one car and a muffler that failed (after eight years) on another. NO problem with the replacements (I kept the paperwork). Mercedes exhaust parts usually last me closer to 10+ years, but they have only a 2 year warranty. Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans lifespan
Have always understood that the number of shifts made goes along way to determine the lifespan. 400K miles on the highway is going to have a longer life than a car driven in traffic most of the time with many shifts per mile. Every shift made is a wear item on the bands, etc. On 10/31/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Elliott wrote: What is the expected mileage lifespan range for my transmission I wonder ? I recall 150 kmi on average. Is that right? Dan, In my experience (6 Mercedes 4 of them diesels) I think this estimate is pretty low. I have only had one transmission failure on one of my cars. It was a 1971 250. When I bought it, the transmission was slipping, so I knew it limited life left in it, but it had over 340,000 miles on it. The following cars never needed any transmission work: 1982 300D 489K 1983 300D 342K 1981 240D 290K 1990 300D 244K 1984 280E 290K The only thing I ever did with these cars is service the service the transmission every 25-3. I would bet that most cars on the road (even our American-made cars from Detroit) will get better than 150,000 out of the transmissions. I guess I also had a transmission fail on my 1981 Oldsmobile 98. Those transmissions were bad back then. Mine still lasted 140,000 miles. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Or for the non-locals, that would be ... ? Craig
Re: [MBZ] Custom grille for w123 series
I have no information on the grill, but I did pass an E class this morning on the way to work that had no identifying badges other than a star on the trunk lid, but did have Elegance just behind the front fendoer. That was the first time I'd seen that, and was wondering what the deal was. Now i know - thanks! I've seen these for w124s, but never for earlier cars. They are sometimes called Elegance (which is a Mercedes trim level designation in Europe), sometimes Sportline, sometimes S-Class look. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness
Hmm -- OK is OK! On 10/31/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just the description of the state matches it's name, not many states can claim that! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?
I'm glad to hear that! Some of my neighbors work at the GM plant in OKC, and I can't speak that highly of SOME of them. On 10/31/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll have to comment on the overpaid, under educated union workers comment since has Wife works for Daimler-Chrysler for over 20 years and I've been a guest in 6 of their facilities. Although many would argue that they are over paid, I can say for a fact that most of the work force is educated, understands their jobs very well and can SPELL OR UNDERSTAND THE PART THAT THEY ARE INSTALLING. The company has an excellent training / motivation program and they expect nothing less from their work force. They also involve their hourly work force in ongoing Quality improvement programs. All of these programs were in place before the Mercedes - Chrysler merger, which is one reason the merger took place. The two companies cultures aren't so different. This program has nothing to do with the company caring for their Employees. Chrysler discovered during their rebuilding period that a motivated work force turns out a Quality product. This is one reason that Chrysler is doing well and Ford GM are loosing market share. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Electrical Problem
After replacing ALL the FUSES, check and clean the ground connection from the instrument panel to the chassis. On 10/31/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Herr Doktor Booth might say, replace ALL fuses if you're NOT CERTAIN how OLD they are. It's a good, inexpensive way to start troubleshooying. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well
there should be drain holes in the door since water runs down the window into the door when it rains they should be a little lower than floor level just below the door latch. check to see if debris or something is clogging it. sometimes opening the door and swinging it you'll be able to hear water sloshing around in the door. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:43:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well Does W124 have drain holes in the door? That would be at the bottom? Tan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could it be the drain holes in the door could be clogged and the water is seeping in there ? also check the door seals around the door hinges 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:03:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well The water is clear water no smells of coolant. It's most likely rainwater (most recently hurricane Wilma) but where it is coming from baffles me - it's only at the passenger side footwell and the sheet metal (firewall) above the floor is dry and no signs of water intrusion that I can tell. Tan --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AC? Heater core? That is assuming it has not been raining. Tan Qu wrote: Hi all, A friend of mine has a '87 300TDT. Recently he has noticed the carpet at front passenger footwell is always wet. We pulled the carpet and insulation up and found there was water in between the corrugations of the floorpan. Tried to soak up water with towels but it returned a couple of days later. Any ideas on where the water may be coming from? Tan ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
Mike, keep an eye on eBay as normally diesel prices drop a bit for cars in the Northeast with the onset of winter. I have seen some that looked decent over the last few months, for under a grand. I am still poking around looking for a 114 stick 220d or 115 240d. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW!.I am not even close to interested for that price. Most of the charm of my 82 240D was that it only cost me $500. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Mike Said I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike to all: I went an inspected car today. Has 66,000 +/- miles on it. Original owner. I saw all maint. records Car is a Maroon colored paint and is in very good shape with clear coat still in place. No rust. Has never been driven in snow. One or two minor blemished and a small dime size dent on right side of car. Body is very nice. The thing has an after market Calloway turbine. It is a standard shift and I could not notice anymore power than a regular 240D. The gauges and the wine indicate I believe the turbo is working. I had trouble getting it inot 1st as it wanted to go into reverse. A little more temperment than other 240D diesels I have driven with standard. The turbo gauges meant the area where the ash tray is has been bastardized and looks a bit off with these gauges. The car has a cd player with no orginal Becker. Interior is a 8.5 to a 9 out of 10 and is palimino MB tex. Has manual moon roof with electric windows. Vacuum door locks work. The turbo is placed when facing front of radiator on the left under the intake and exhaust manifolds with the air filter housing being located via some after market supports over the A/C reciever. The car has two diesel filters plus inline filter. Guy wants $8,000 for it, and I am not interested. I did not take pics but email me off line and I can give you further info. I question the longevity of having a turbo, but I assume it could be removed and placed back to original and would be more appealling to a purist. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot. I will go look at it. I do not think I want it after having heard from the group. But will pass on infor to anyone interested. Car is located in Northeast. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve. Will just stick with the blow drier idea On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right amount of fuel, maybe you could just recycle the exhaust - it ought to still have O2 -- -- - That's called exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Most Mercedes diesels made since the early '80s have it. It lowers combustion temperatures, the generation of NOx and lowers power while it's engaged. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
I have a 220D stick and a 250 gasser stick. Steve MacSween wrote: Mike, keep an eye on eBay as normally diesel prices drop a bit for cars in the Northeast with the onset of winter. I have seen some that looked decent over the last few months, for under a grand. I am still poking around looking for a 114 stick 220d or 115 240d. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW!.I am not even close to interested for that price. Most of the charm of my 82 240D was that it only cost me $500. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Mike Said I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike to all: I went an inspected car today. Has 66,000 +/- miles on it. Original owner. I saw all maint. records Car is a Maroon colored paint and is in very good shape with clear coat still in place. No rust. Has never been driven in snow. One or two minor blemished and a small dime size dent on right side of car. Body is very nice. The thing has an after market Calloway turbine. It is a standard shift and I could not notice anymore power than a regular 240D. The gauges and the wine indicate I believe the turbo is working. I had trouble getting it inot 1st as it wanted to go into reverse. A little more temperment than other 240D diesels I have driven with standard. The turbo gauges meant the area where the ash tray is has been bastardized and looks a bit off with these gauges. The car has a cd player with no orginal Becker. Interior is a 8.5 to a 9 out of 10 and is palimino MB tex. Has manual moon roof with electric windows. Vacuum door locks work. The turbo is placed when facing front of radiator on the left under the intake and exhaust manifolds with the air filter housing being located via some after market supports over the A/C reciever. The car has two diesel filters plus inline filter. Guy wants $8,000 for it, and I am not interested. I did not take pics but email me off line and I can give you further info. I question the longevity of having a turbo, but I assume it could be removed and placed back to original and would be more appealling to a purist. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot. I will go look at it. I do not think I want it after having heard from the group. But will pass on infor to anyone interested. Car is located in Northeast. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve. Will just stick with the blow drier idea On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right amount of fuel, maybe you could just recycle the exhaust - it ought to still have O2 -- -- - That's called exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Most Mercedes diesels made since the early '80s have it. It lowers combustion temperatures, the generation of NOx and lowers power while it's engaged. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___
Re: [MBZ] motor oil as a diesel fuel
I think that is gonna smoke like crazy oil was not intended as a fuel collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] OT: Unionized work environments (Was: Why are the newer (96-99) b...
In a message dated 10/31/2005 9:51:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of the two evil forces, I'd take the union over the management most times. Personally, I hate big corporations and greedy shareholders and I vote for the small guy with my wallet every time. yes!! collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
*Groan*. Okay, usual suspects, er questions: 1. price? 2. got pics? I knew I shoulda kept my mouth shut. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 220D stick and a 250 gasser stick. Steve MacSween wrote: Mike, keep an eye on eBay as normally diesel prices drop a bit for cars in the Northeast with the onset of winter. I have seen some that looked decent over the last few months, for under a grand. I am still poking around looking for a 114 stick 220d or 115 240d. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW!.I am not even close to interested for that price. Most of the charm of my 82 240D was that it only cost me $500. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Mike Said I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike to all: I went an inspected car today. Has 66,000 +/- miles on it. Original owner. I saw all maint. records Car is a Maroon colored paint and is in very good shape with clear coat still in place. No rust. Has never been driven in snow. One or two minor blemished and a small dime size dent on right side of car. Body is very nice. The thing has an after market Calloway turbine. It is a standard shift and I could not notice anymore power than a regular 240D. The gauges and the wine indicate I believe the turbo is working. I had trouble getting it inot 1st as it wanted to go into reverse. A little more temperment than other 240D diesels I have driven with standard. The turbo gauges meant the area where the ash tray is has been bastardized and looks a bit off with these gauges. The car has a cd player with no orginal Becker. Interior is a 8.5 to a 9 out of 10 and is palimino MB tex. Has manual moon roof with electric windows. Vacuum door locks work. The turbo is placed when facing front of radiator on the left under the intake and exhaust manifolds with the air filter housing being located via some after market supports over the A/C reciever. The car has two diesel filters plus inline filter. Guy wants $8,000 for it, and I am not interested. I did not take pics but email me off line and I can give you further info. I question the longevity of having a turbo, but I assume it could be removed and placed back to original and would be more appealling to a purist. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot. I will go look at it. I do not think I want it after having heard from the group. But will pass on infor to anyone interested. Car is located in Northeast. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve. Will just stick with the blow drier idea On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right amount of fuel, maybe you could just recycle the exhaust - it ought to still have O2 -- -- - That's called exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Most Mercedes diesels made since the early '80s have it. It lowers combustion temperatures, the generation of NOx and lowers power while it's engaged. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] In Rust We Trust: Men and Boys and the Wealth of their Toys
Here! Here! Amen! A link to the granddaddy of them all: www.oldthreshers.org A place to see generations of innovation in action. Gasoline, diesel, steam, horsepower, railroads, trolleys, dancing and more At 05:06 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote: Some small part of this might annoy those of the bluer tint, but ignore that part and enjoy the rest of the story. http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/JennniferRobackMorse/2005/10/31/173445.html --R ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness
Mizzurah At 08:17 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote: On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Or for the non-locals, that would be ... ? Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans lifespan
Ron Dwelle wrote: I've looked at a lot of 190D's (bought 3 of them), and I think their transmissions are shorter lived. It's a rare 190D that has over 200K on the original transmission. My 123s, on the other hand, never seem to have a transmission problem (though I haven't driven one over 300K). Perhaps Dr. Booth had better stats on this. I used to drive to and from Wash DC from Pgh at least once a week. To amuse myself, I counted the number of shifts that the trip required in my 300TD (124.193) and in my 190D 2.2 (201.122). The 190D shifted almost twice as often. The wear of the soft parts in a transmission occur almost entirely when it shifts. I'd estimate that the average life of a 201 automatic (722.4 series transmission) is closer to 150-175kmi vs 250+kmi for a 124 or 126 (722.3 series transmission). All of my 190D automatics have had the transmission replaced (but I know of many highway driven 201s that have had the transmission last MUCH longer). My 300TD still has it's original transmission at 180+kmi (but it's been resealed). 722.3 series transmissions (especially in 126 chassis cars) have a history of several percentage (5%) of B-2 piston failures, while 722.4 series transmissions almost NEVER suffer from B-2 piston fractures. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
So...what does a gallon of bio weigh? If I slapped a correct aluminum aux tank in my trunk and filled it (26 gal) of bio, what would the weight be? Would I be all saggy in the rear (the car you clowns). I hate the look of a saggy rear (in my cars too). Thanks Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 01 03:52:13 2005 Received: from fed1rmmtao08.cox.net ([68.230.241.31]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EWnC1-0004pt-0h for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 03:52:13 + Received: from familycomp ([68.106.48.86]) by fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:52:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Spare Fuel Tank X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 03:52:13 - Dan found There is one on ebay: (correct aux fuel tank for W123) Sweet. That is the price the old German guy at the boneyard here wanted for the one he had. I haven't seen one since...until now. I have a friend coming out here for Thanksgiving from Joplin...maybe I'll put a bid in and, if I wim it, I'll have her schlep it out here to me. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] Fast GP's
Gabriel S. wrote: 10-15 sec? Thats about how long my glow light stays on anyway! When somone mentions fast glow plugs im thinking 1 second or less. Would my glow light stay on longer in freezing weather? The colder it is, the longer it takes to raise the temperature of the prechamber and of the ballpin to a temperature hot enough to ignite the fuel! For the preglow light to work properly, everything MUST be working PERFECTLY. I'll wager that the calibration of the preglow light will NOT be correct in any Mercedes that's more than 10 years old that hasn't had every part of the preglow system replaced. Most glow plugs with 200kmi on them ARE far from perfect (even if they measure 0.6 ohms). Most city driven engines don't have really clean prechambers either and if the glow plugs are carbon encapsulated, it can take a LONG time for the temperature to heat the prechamber (much longer than the light will be on). The so-called FAST plugs (the ones designed for afterglow function that cost about 2-3X what the original plugs cost) can reach ~90% of max temp (1180 deg. C. is the max) in 3-5 seconds while it can take the old style plugs 10-15sec to reach that temperature even when NEW. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] In Rust We Trust: Men and Boys and the Wealth of their Toys
Some small part of this might annoy those of the bluer tint, but ignore that part and enjoy the rest of the story. http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/JennniferRobackMorse/2005/10/31/173445.html Beautiful article, one of the best things I have read in a long long time...I can say it almost made my eye tear. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?
Are any of them loosers? Or do they just tighten things down at the plant? --R OK Don wrote: I'm glad to hear that! Some of my neighbors work at the GM plant in OKC, and I can't speak that highly of SOME of them. On 10/31/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll have to comment on the overpaid, under educated union workers comment since has Wife works for Daimler-Chrysler for over 20 years and I've been a guest in 6 of their facilities. Although many would argue that they are over paid, I can say for a fact that most of the work force is educated, understands their jobs very well and can SPELL OR UNDERSTAND THE PART THAT THEY ARE INSTALLING. The company has an excellent training / motivation program and they expect nothing less from their work force. They also involve their hourly work force in ongoing Quality improvement programs. All of these programs were in place before the Mercedes - Chrysler merger, which is one reason the merger took place. The two companies cultures aren't so different. This program has nothing to do with the company caring for their Employees. Chrysler discovered during their rebuilding period that a motivated work force turns out a Quality product. This is one reason that Chrysler is doing well and Ford GM are loosing market share. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fast GP's
Ahhh i see, if you refer to city driven i don't consider my car a city car...i do live 60 miles outside of los angeles. BTW, how long does it take you on average during the winter to pre glow your car? On 10/31/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: 10-15 sec? Thats about how long my glow light stays on anyway! When somone mentions fast glow plugs im thinking 1 second or less. Would my glow light stay on longer in freezing weather? The colder it is, the longer it takes to raise the temperature of the prechamber and of the ballpin to a temperature hot enough to ignite the fuel! For the preglow light to work properly, everything MUST be working PERFECTLY. I'll wager that the calibration of the preglow light will NOT be correct in any Mercedes that's more than 10 years old that hasn't had every part of the preglow system replaced. Most glow plugs with 200kmi on them ARE far from perfect (even if they measure 0.6 ohms). Most city driven engines don't have really clean prechambers either and if the glow plugs are carbon encapsulated, it can take a LONG time for the temperature to heat the prechamber (much longer than the light will be on). The so-called FAST plugs (the ones designed for afterglow function that cost about 2-3X what the original plugs cost) can reach ~90% of max temp (1180 deg. C. is the max) in 3-5 seconds while it can take the old style plugs 10-15sec to reach that temperature even when NEW. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] W202 trans problem
The aftermath of Wilma has had me busy in the yard for the past week and we also evacuated for shortly before and just after Wilma for five days and I have been just barely monitoring my Digest version of the list. I recall but cannot find a thread about M-B transmissions that slipped in and out of first gear the first time out. My Wife's 94 C-280 exhibits this sometimes. As I recall the thread there was a discussion of synthetic fluid in the tranny that might help the problem. This very question was asked and answered just yesterday. When my '95 C280 was in it's first year, it developed a double engagement problem into first gear after having been in reverse. As part (or all of) the repair. The fluid came in a 5 liter container which was given to me with 1.5 liters remaining. The part number for this fluid is: A 001 989 23 03 11. The following is the English portion of the container label. This ATF may only be poured into automatic transmissions 722.3/4/5 in the event of problem double engagement jerk and after first engaging drive mode D. This fluid may not be used for initial filling. Note: only pour in these five liters; top up with A 000 989 92 03. Problem solved with this fluid and did not return. The synthetic fluid discussion was just speculation by someone else with no substantiation. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] Fast GP's
It is all in the geography. In central Iowa I can fire my 240D up at -20F with the new glow plugs. With factory originals, I'd be walking to work. In SoCal you are talking a difference of a half minute year around in pre-glow times. On 10/31/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10-15 sec? Thats about how long my glow light stays on anyway! When somone mentions fast glow plugs im thinking 1 second or less. Would my glow light stay on longer in freezing weather? On 10/31/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: How's a fast glow plug different, in use? It gets hotter faster! With the original series plugs, almost half of the heat generated is dissipated in resistance wires OUTSIDE the engine. When the plugs are changed to parallel plugs, all of the heat generated is INSIDE the engine - so there is more heat to ignite the fuel sooner. The fast plugs reach 1000 deg in 10-15 sec while it will take ~30 sec. for loop plugs to reach that temperature. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] motor oil as a diesel fuel
I used to filter my used oil I'd put a quart in with every fillup. The exhaust smelled like an oil burner but nothing seemed harmed by the process. I threw away the filter setup when I moved and I've not added oil for years. I saw no measurable change in economy, I did it to dispose of the oil. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry Herrman Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 5:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] motor oil as a diesel fuel Can I use up the leftover sealed cans of motor oil I have around by putting them in my diesel fuel tank? Anyone tried this? Thanks Jerry H. 240D 228,000 miles ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
Bob Rentfro wrote: So...what does a gallon of bio weigh? If I slapped a correct aluminum aux tank in my trunk and filled it (26 gal) of bio, what would the weight be? Would I be all saggy in the rear (the car you clowns). I hate the look of a saggy rear (in my cars too). 26 gallons will weigh ABOUT 200 lb plus the weight of the tank. Almost the correct weight to make the car ideal in snow (weight distribution about 50:50)!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Monovision
Beautiful article, one of the best things I have read in a long long time...I can say it almost made my eye tear. The good one or the glass one? RLE/Seattle
[MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
Bob wrote: So...what does a gallon of bio weigh? If I slapped a correct aluminum aux tank in my trunk and filled it (26 gal) of bio, what would the weight be? Would I be all saggy in the rear (the car you clowns). At 6 pounds per gallon it would weigh about the same as an adult size passenger in the back seat. Does your car sag when somebody sits in the back seat? If you fill both fuel tanks and put five big adults in the car it will droop. If you have one or two people up front and both tanks topped you should not notice any appreciable change. Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/2005
Re: [MBZ] motor oil as a diesel fuel
Jerry Herrman wrote: Can I use up the leftover sealed cans of motor oil I have around by putting them in my diesel fuel tank? Continued consumption of motor oil (say a qt in a tank of fuel) will cause enough injector coking to require additional maintenance - especially in a city driven car. Power will initially be a little lower than normal but the engine will usually run rather smoothly. If the car is almost always highway driven it MIGHT not be noticeable. Mercedes does NOT approve of adding oil or ATF to fuel and insists regular use is harmful. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Fast GP's
Gabriel S. wrote: Ahhh i see, if you refer to city driven i don't consider my car a city car...i do live 60 miles outside of los angeles. BTW, how long does it take you on average during the winter to pre glow your car? At freezing I let the car 4 cylinder cars glow for 10 sec and the 6 cylinder glow for 15 sec. At zero F I double that. I glow the 5 cylinder cars somewhere in between. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] W123 outer tie rods -- any experience on here?
Rusty will ship you the exact set of tie rods you need for your car and they will fit perfectly and cost less than NAPA. In fact, if you are clueless and stubborn enough to try to order the wrong tierod combination, he will get more stubborn and insist that you order the correct tierods that will turn out in the end to be precisely right and lower cost. How I know this, don't ask...just do as he says... Bruce --- Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 02:18:52AM +, LT Don wrote: Bought a set of outer tie rods for my '77 240D. When we tried to install them yesterday afternoon we found that they are too fat. The box says they are 16mm size. It was really close so I am thinking that maybe the size should be 15mm? We got them at NAPA. In the case of the powerchoke, the tie rods themselves were not interchangeable from left to right. Depending on how much part they sold you, that is a possibility. Did NAPA just blow it on the parts (we double checked the number and that is what they show for my vehicle) or are there different diameter screws available? I don't think it is a 1977/1978 sort of error, because the NAPA site showed the same part for both years. Interesting, that would have been my first guess. It could be that NAPA blew it, it could be just an error in their books. I had a problem with a NAPA drag link on the powerchoke - sheared the bolt clean off the ball joint where it meets the pitman arm, fortunately right in front of the house. I got another one from them, and needless to say, have been watching it like a hawk since. I'm considering carrying a spare ball joint for it for when I go to the desert next month. NOT a place you want to lose steering. K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
rumor has it that Steve wrote: What I wrote: The reason for recalibrating the pump up is to squirt enough extra fuel into the cylinder to make full use of the extra air that's being pumped in. What you wrote: Also, unless the pump was removed and recalibrated up to compensate for the additional fuel demand from the turbocharging, the engine will be under-fueled and will run a danger of damage due to running lean/hot. You responded with: And that differs from what I said, in what respect? A minor point. It is the phrase: ...the engine will be under-fueled and will run a danger of damage due to running lean/hot. Diesel engines are _not_ in any danger from running lean. The only time it is _not_ lean is when it is creating maximum power - and when it is making maximum power it is also making maximum heat. Too much heat from too much power and important engine parts can melt. So the engine is in danger only when it is _not_ runing lean. Therefore, there is _no_ danger in using a stock pump. But it does seem rather silly to put a turbo on and not _use_ the extra air being pumped in Philip, nitpicking.
[MBZ] A Smashing Month.....
Hello fellow Benz Friends, This has not been our month. Two Wednesdays ago Kim was rear ended in our 2005 Outback 2.5XT by a woman who had recently canceled her insurance. Considering the impact, the Subaru came out of the mishap with flying colors. Kim and I are both very impressed with its performance under very adverse circumstances. On Friday, I experienced what happens when an inexperienced 16yr old who does not understand the concept of left turn yields to through traffic is turned loose in an SUV. The result is about $3600 damage to the nose of my 1988 300TE (estimate with all new parts). I am expecting that this may come real close to totaling the Mercedes, since it is nearly 20 years old with 204K Mi on it. The damage is not severe (grille, hood, radiator, radiator support and condenser), and I would much prefer to repair it than replace it. Although State Farm carries a policy on the SUV involved, the 16yr old was not a named insured, so State Farm has not decided if they want to accept liability for the damage to the Mercedes. I am considering having our family attorney initiate proceedings directly against the at-fault party to see if that can get State Farm off dead center rather than turn this over to Farmers (my insurance) for subrogation. I am hesitant to process the claim through my insurance, as two expensive mishaps, regardless of fault, cannot bode well for my future insurance rates or renewals Any suggestions for how to approach this situation will be gratefully received and considered. I have been very impressed with the 300TE since I have owned it and would like to continue with it for some time to come. If it is totaled, I regret that I am unlikely to purchase a Mercedes replacement. The newer Mercedes do not enjoy the same reputation for build quality or reliability as the 124 series cars. Frankly, I am very concerned I will end up with a money pit. By dealer invitation I took a close look at the new R class in Colorado Springs last week, and came away very impressed. I'm not $58K impressed, but close. Lurking in the back of my mind was keeping the 300TE another couple of years, then going to an R-class when they begin to appear on the pre-owned circuit. I must admit that the 2005 Outback Turbo I bought my wife for valentine's day has been a real eye-opener in performance, build quality, and now safety. -- Best Regards, Jon B Kanas Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas http://www.qadas.com/%7Ekanas AOL Instant Messenger ID: KanasColo
Re: [MBZ] A Smashing Month.....
Jon, Remind State Farm that the teenage driver is covered under his parent's insurance regardless of the vehicle he was driving and if he was not listed as a driver of that particular vehicle then shame on them. State Farm may balk at covering the damage to their SUV but they can't run away from the damage to your vehicle because the driver, not the vehicle, is responsible for the damage to your vehicle! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Kanas Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] A Smashing Month. Hello fellow Benz Friends, This has not been our month. Two Wednesdays ago Kim was rear ended in our 2005 Outback 2.5XT by a woman who had recently canceled her insurance. Considering the impact, the Subaru came out of the mishap with flying colors. Kim and I are both very impressed with its performance under very adverse circumstances. On Friday, I experienced what happens when an inexperienced 16yr old who does not understand the concept of left turn yields to through traffic is turned loose in an SUV. The result is about $3600 damage to the nose of my 1988 300TE (estimate with all new parts). I am expecting that this may come real close to totaling the Mercedes, since it is nearly 20 years old with 204K Mi on it. The damage is not severe (grille, hood, radiator, radiator support and condenser), and I would much prefer to repair it than replace it. Although State Farm carries a policy on the SUV involved, the 16yr old was not a named insured, so State Farm has not decided if they want to accept liability for the damage to the Mercedes. I am considering having our family attorney initiate proceedings directly against the at-fault party to see if that can get State Farm off dead center rather than turn this over to Farmers (my insurance) for subrogation. I am hesitant to process the claim through my insurance, as two expensive mishaps, regardless of fault, cannot bode well for my future insurance rates or renewals Any suggestions for how to approach this situation will be gratefully received and considered. I have been very impressed with the 300TE since I have owned it and would like to continue with it for some time to come. If it is totaled, I regret that I am unlikely to purchase a Mercedes replacement. The newer Mercedes do not enjoy the same reputation for build quality or reliability as the 124 series cars. Frankly, I am very concerned I will end up with a money pit. By dealer invitation I took a close look at the new R class in Colorado Springs last week, and came away very impressed. I'm not $58K impressed, but close. Lurking in the back of my mind was keeping the 300TE another couple of years, then going to an R-class when they begin to appear on the pre-owned circuit. I must admit that the 2005 Outback Turbo I bought my wife for valentine's day has been a real eye-opener in performance, build quality, and now safety. -- Best Regards, Jon B Kanas Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas http://www.qadas.com/%7Ekanas AOL Instant Messenger ID: KanasColo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] motor oil as a diesel fuel
Well, while I can't disagree with Marshall that it's probably not *recommended*, the Mercedes seem pretty resilient in that if it can be pumped through the IP and it burns it will probably run. But of course, the less you do the better. However, I have run used oil through mine. I would just make sure you have clean oil (if it's sealed, it should be fine, but why aren't you using it in an engine?) and I would use less than 50% oil in a tank of diesel, maybe less if it's getting cold where you are. If you have about 25% in there, it will quiet/smooth out the engine a bit. You may also get a little more smoke, and a little more oil burning smell. However, if you keep it to about 30% or less, it's not bad at all. If by chance you have a greasecar setup, the oil seems to run better through there being heated first. I've run it straight through that setup and it seems to burn almost as clean as regular diesel (at least from seat of the pants testing). But again, if you want to do the absolute best you can for your engine, probably better not to put it in there. But if you do within reason, I doubt you'll notice any appreciable difference. Levi On 10/31/05, Jerry Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I use up the leftover sealed cans of motor oil I have around by putting them in my diesel fuel tank? Anyone tried this? Thanks Jerry H. 240D 228,000 miles ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Coupla diesels in Boston
From the WantAdvertiser: 1982 MERCEDES 300 TURBO DIESEL but nds some work. $750/bo; (N. Chelmsford) (cell) 978-360-0678 v 1983 MERCEDES 300SD Vy solid body. Blown headgasket. $500/bo; (Barre) 978-355-2197 w 1992 MERCEDES 300D Wht w/gray int. 180K mi. Nds motor. 5-cyl, 2.5L turbo diesel. Oil pump broke, didn't notice loss of pressure, cooked the motor. Otherwise in exc cond. Car is compl. $1500; Call Steve. (Duxbury) (cell) 781-249-5166 u 1983 MERCEDES 300D No nose. Gd motor. Exc int. $400/bo; (Barre) 978-355-2197 w No affiliation, no further knowledge... Lee '93 300 2.5L td 175K
Re: [MBZ] motor oil as a diesel fuel
Interestingly, Cummins developed a system for the big diesel rigs that scavenges a certain amount of engine oil and combines it with the injected fuel. Periodic oil changes cosist of oil filter replacement and topping off the engine oil. On 10/31/05, Jerry Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I use up the leftover sealed cans of motor oil I have around by putting them in my diesel fuel tank? Anyone tried this? Thanks Jerry H. 240D 228,000 miles ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
[MBZ] Auto Trans Lifespan
Hi, 1990 350 SDL with 246,000 MIles. Fluid and filter changed every 45K. Getting a little tempermental when really cold outside last winter (0 to 10 degrees), but otherwise, fine. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
[MBZ] Speaking of seat upgrades
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8011102068rd=1sspagenam e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Too bad these are in Germany...also the listing doesn't say whether they're powered or heated, but the 2 passenger rear option is pretty cool. Lee '93 300 2.5L turbodiesel 175K
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
the 220 is a parts car, the 250 is probably more than you want to spend. Steve MacSween wrote: *Groan*. Okay, usual suspects, er questions: 1. price? 2. got pics? I knew I shoulda kept my mouth shut. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 220D stick and a 250 gasser stick. Steve MacSween wrote: Mike, keep an eye on eBay as normally diesel prices drop a bit for cars in the Northeast with the onset of winter. I have seen some that looked decent over the last few months, for under a grand. I am still poking around looking for a 114 stick 220d or 115 240d. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW!.I am not even close to interested for that price. Most of the charm of my 82 240D was that it only cost me $500. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Mike Said I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike to all: I went an inspected car today. Has 66,000 +/- miles on it. Original owner. I saw all maint. records Car is a Maroon colored paint and is in very good shape with clear coat still in place. No rust. Has never been driven in snow. One or two minor blemished and a small dime size dent on right side of car. Body is very nice. The thing has an after market Calloway turbine. It is a standard shift and I could not notice anymore power than a regular 240D. The gauges and the wine indicate I believe the turbo is working. I had trouble getting it inot 1st as it wanted to go into reverse. A little more temperment than other 240D diesels I have driven with standard. The turbo gauges meant the area where the ash tray is has been bastardized and looks a bit off with these gauges. The car has a cd player with no orginal Becker. Interior is a 8.5 to a 9 out of 10 and is palimino MB tex. Has manual moon roof with electric windows. Vacuum door locks work. The turbo is placed when facing front of radiator on the left under the intake and exhaust manifolds with the air filter housing being located via some after market supports over the A/C reciever. The car has two diesel filters plus inline filter. Guy wants $8,000 for it, and I am not interested. I did not take pics but email me off line and I can give you further info. I question the longevity of having a turbo, but I assume it could be removed and placed back to original and would be more appealling to a purist. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot. I will go look at it. I do not think I want it after having heard from the group. But will pass on infor to anyone interested. Car is located in Northeast. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve. Will just stick with the blow drier idea On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right amount of fuel, maybe you could just recycle the exhaust - it ought to still have O2 -- -- - That's called exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Most Mercedes diesels made since the early '80s have it. It lowers combustion temperatures, the generation of NOx and lowers power while it's engaged. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans lifespan
My '83 300D has 162K miles on the trans -- the first winter I had the car it had some flaring in the low gears when the trans was cold, which was cured by Mobil-1 ATF. Then about 5000 miles ago the B2 piston failed (actually the flaring could have been an early symptom of that problem). Fortunately the B2 repair is straightforward. Since then my trans has been trouble-free. Allan -- 1983 300D On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Donald Snook wrote: Dan Elliott wrote: What is the expected mileage lifespan range for my transmission I wonder ? I recall 150 kmi on average. Is that right? Dan, In my experience (6 Mercedes 4 of them diesels) I think this estimate is pretty low. I have only had one transmission failure on one of my cars. It was a 1971 250. When I bought it, the transmission was slipping, so I knew it limited life left in it, but it had over 340,000 miles on it. The following cars never needed any transmission work: 1982 300D 489K 1983 300D 342K 1981 240D 290K 1990 300D 244K 1984 280E 290K The only thing I ever did with these cars is service the service the transmission every 25-3. I would bet that most cars on the road (even our American-made cars from Detroit) will get better than 150,000 out of the transmissions. I guess I also had a transmission fail on my 1981 Oldsmobile 98. Those transmissions were bad back then. Mine still lasted 140,000 miles. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] A Smashing Month.....
Does this vary by state? Here in Indiana, the owner of the at-fault vehicle is responsible. E.g. if I loan my car to a friend, and he causes an accident, the claim goes to *my* insurance, not his. Allan -- 1983 300D On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Tom Hargrave wrote: Jon, Remind State Farm that the teenage driver is covered under his parent's insurance regardless of the vehicle he was driving and if he was not listed as a driver of that particular vehicle then shame on them. State Farm may balk at covering the damage to their SUV but they can't run away from the damage to your vehicle because the driver, not the vehicle, is responsible for the damage to your vehicle! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Kanas Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] A Smashing Month. Hello fellow Benz Friends, This has not been our month. Two Wednesdays ago Kim was rear ended in our 2005 Outback 2.5XT by a woman who had recently canceled her insurance. Considering the impact, the Subaru came out of the mishap with flying colors. Kim and I are both very impressed with its performance under very adverse circumstances. On Friday, I experienced what happens when an inexperienced 16yr old who does not understand the concept of left turn yields to through traffic is turned loose in an SUV. The result is about $3600 damage to the nose of my 1988 300TE (estimate with all new parts). I am expecting that this may come real close to totaling the Mercedes, since it is nearly 20 years old with 204K Mi on it. The damage is not severe (grille, hood, radiator, radiator support and condenser), and I would much prefer to repair it than replace it. Although State Farm carries a policy on the SUV involved, the 16yr old was not a named insured, so State Farm has not decided if they want to accept liability for the damage to the Mercedes. I am considering having our family attorney initiate proceedings directly against the at-fault party to see if that can get State Farm off dead center rather than turn this over to Farmers (my insurance) for subrogation. I am hesitant to process the claim through my insurance, as two expensive mishaps, regardless of fault, cannot bode well for my future insurance rates or renewals Any suggestions for how to approach this situation will be gratefully received and considered. I have been very impressed with the 300TE since I have owned it and would like to continue with it for some time to come. If it is totaled, I regret that I am unlikely to purchase a Mercedes replacement. The newer Mercedes do not enjoy the same reputation for build quality or reliability as the 124 series cars. Frankly, I am very concerned I will end up with a money pit. By dealer invitation I took a close look at the new R class in Colorado Springs last week, and came away very impressed. I'm not $58K impressed, but close. Lurking in the back of my mind was keeping the 300TE another couple of years, then going to an R-class when they begin to appear on the pre-owned circuit. I must admit that the 2005 Outback Turbo I bought my wife for valentine's day has been a real eye-opener in performance, build quality, and now safety. -- Best Regards, Jon B Kanas Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas http://www.qadas.com/%7Ekanas AOL Instant Messenger ID: KanasColo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Subject: A Smashing Month.....
Jon: In my experience, you are wise to NOT go the subrogation route if you can solve it some other way. My wife and I subrogated a claim, a few years ago, when the other party, who was very obviously at-fault, refused responsibility. Our insurnace rates were considerably jacked at the next policy renewal, and the subrogated claim was listed as the reason. Ned Kleinhenz
Re: [MBZ] learn something new everyday
Hey Kaleb, I have the original sticker for my 85 300 D, and it shows a factory alarm. I have never heard it go off, and I have had the doors on the other side to not close, also my rear drivers side door lock does not work any longer, I open the door before turning the key to open the drivers door..h...wouldn't that normally set off an alarm? Interesting...I never thought about this until seeing this post. Thanks Rhonald 1985 300D 288,000 miles Black Palomino Washington, DC Original Message Follows From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] learn something new everyday Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:21:03 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On my 85 300D, doors were locked with central locking via drivers door. The passenger front door was not fully closed so didnt lock. Went to open it and the horn starts going off. WTF? I have never heard of any 123's with factory alarms. Sure enough I checked the owners manual and its got a section on it. I have NEVER heard of 123's with alarms before. WOW. It was an option in Euro cars, but I didn't know it was available in the US (it was in 126s). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] A Smashing Month.....
You are in a no fault insurance state. No fault insurance programs are sold to states by the insurance agencies as good deals for the residents because supposedly, everyone's insurance takes care of his or her own damage. Hence no fault. The flaw in the system is that no fault really means everyone's fault. Also, no fault insurance programs require everyone to purchase their own collision insurance as part of the program. This may seem to be a good thing but if you look at States without no fault insurance programs, you'll always find lower premiums. Why? Because resident's don't have to buy collision insurance - they can buy only liability insurance if they wish. This option keeps the cost of collision insurance down because the insurance companies have to price their products to sell! Thanks, Tom Hargrave Ex-resident of one of the worse no fault insurance States in the union - NY State 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:12 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Smashing Month. Does this vary by state? Here in Indiana, the owner of the at-fault vehicle is responsible. E.g. if I loan my car to a friend, and he causes an accident, the claim goes to *my* insurance, not his. Allan -- 1983 300D On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Tom Hargrave wrote: Jon, Remind State Farm that the teenage driver is covered under his parent's insurance regardless of the vehicle he was driving and if he was not listed as a driver of that particular vehicle then shame on them. State Farm may balk at covering the damage to their SUV but they can't run away from the damage to your vehicle because the driver, not the vehicle, is responsible for the damage to your vehicle! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Kanas Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] A Smashing Month. Hello fellow Benz Friends, This has not been our month. Two Wednesdays ago Kim was rear ended in our 2005 Outback 2.5XT by a woman who had recently canceled her insurance. Considering the impact, the Subaru came out of the mishap with flying colors. Kim and I are both very impressed with its performance under very adverse circumstances. On Friday, I experienced what happens when an inexperienced 16yr old who does not understand the concept of left turn yields to through traffic is turned loose in an SUV. The result is about $3600 damage to the nose of my 1988 300TE (estimate with all new parts). I am expecting that this may come real close to totaling the Mercedes, since it is nearly 20 years old with 204K Mi on it. The damage is not severe (grille, hood, radiator, radiator support and condenser), and I would much prefer to repair it than replace it. Although State Farm carries a policy on the SUV involved, the 16yr old was not a named insured, so State Farm has not decided if they want to accept liability for the damage to the Mercedes. I am considering having our family attorney initiate proceedings directly against the at-fault party to see if that can get State Farm off dead center rather than turn this over to Farmers (my insurance) for subrogation. I am hesitant to process the claim through my insurance, as two expensive mishaps, regardless of fault, cannot bode well for my future insurance rates or renewals Any suggestions for how to approach this situation will be gratefully received and considered. I have been very impressed with the 300TE since I have owned it and would like to continue with it for some time to come. If it is totaled, I regret that I am unlikely to purchase a Mercedes replacement. The newer Mercedes do not enjoy the same reputation for build quality or reliability as the 124 series cars. Frankly, I am very concerned I will end up with a money pit. By dealer invitation I took a close look at the new R class in Colorado Springs last week, and came away very impressed. I'm not $58K impressed, but close. Lurking in the back of my mind was keeping the 300TE another couple of years, then going to an R-class when they begin to appear on the pre-owned circuit. I must admit that the 2005 Outback Turbo I bought my wife for valentine's day has been a real eye-opener in performance, build quality, and now safety. -- Best Regards, Jon B Kanas Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas http://www.qadas.com/%7Ekanas AOL Instant Messenger ID: KanasColo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] A Smashing Month.....
Sorry, I mis-read your question and jumped on my no fault insurance band wagon. Here in Alabama, the driver is responsible for any damages done to the other vehicles. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:12 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Smashing Month. Does this vary by state? Here in Indiana, the owner of the at-fault vehicle is responsible. E.g. if I loan my car to a friend, and he causes an accident, the claim goes to *my* insurance, not his. Allan -- 1983 300D On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Tom Hargrave wrote: Jon, Remind State Farm that the teenage driver is covered under his parent's insurance regardless of the vehicle he was driving and if he was not listed as a driver of that particular vehicle then shame on them. State Farm may balk at covering the damage to their SUV but they can't run away from the damage to your vehicle because the driver, not the vehicle, is responsible for the damage to your vehicle! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Kanas Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] A Smashing Month. Hello fellow Benz Friends, This has not been our month. Two Wednesdays ago Kim was rear ended in our 2005 Outback 2.5XT by a woman who had recently canceled her insurance. Considering the impact, the Subaru came out of the mishap with flying colors. Kim and I are both very impressed with its performance under very adverse circumstances. On Friday, I experienced what happens when an inexperienced 16yr old who does not understand the concept of left turn yields to through traffic is turned loose in an SUV. The result is about $3600 damage to the nose of my 1988 300TE (estimate with all new parts). I am expecting that this may come real close to totaling the Mercedes, since it is nearly 20 years old with 204K Mi on it. The damage is not severe (grille, hood, radiator, radiator support and condenser), and I would much prefer to repair it than replace it. Although State Farm carries a policy on the SUV involved, the 16yr old was not a named insured, so State Farm has not decided if they want to accept liability for the damage to the Mercedes. I am considering having our family attorney initiate proceedings directly against the at-fault party to see if that can get State Farm off dead center rather than turn this over to Farmers (my insurance) for subrogation. I am hesitant to process the claim through my insurance, as two expensive mishaps, regardless of fault, cannot bode well for my future insurance rates or renewals Any suggestions for how to approach this situation will be gratefully received and considered. I have been very impressed with the 300TE since I have owned it and would like to continue with it for some time to come. If it is totaled, I regret that I am unlikely to purchase a Mercedes replacement. The newer Mercedes do not enjoy the same reputation for build quality or reliability as the 124 series cars. Frankly, I am very concerned I will end up with a money pit. By dealer invitation I took a close look at the new R class in Colorado Springs last week, and came away very impressed. I'm not $58K impressed, but close. Lurking in the back of my mind was keeping the 300TE another couple of years, then going to an R-class when they begin to appear on the pre-owned circuit. I must admit that the 2005 Outback Turbo I bought my wife for valentine's day has been a real eye-opener in performance, build quality, and now safety. -- Best Regards, Jon B Kanas Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas http://www.qadas.com/%7Ekanas AOL Instant Messenger ID: KanasColo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] learn something new everyday
My 83' 300D has/had some sort of alarm. Not sure if it was factory or not. Mine had a horn on the left front fender and a red light in the center of the top level of switches in the center console. Also has an electric lock actuator that is part of the vacuum locking system on the drivers door... Levi Anyone know where to get a cheap key fob remote that would control a pulsed power? I.e. I push the button and the power only stays on as long as I hold the button? On 11/1/05, Rhonald Angelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kaleb, I have the original sticker for my 85 300 D, and it shows a factory alarm. I have never heard it go off, and I have had the doors on the other side to not close, also my rear drivers side door lock does not work any longer, I open the door before turning the key to open the drivers door..h...wouldn't that normally set off an alarm? Interesting...I never thought about this until seeing this post. Thanks Rhonald 1985 300D 288,000 miles Black Palomino Washington, DC
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring
Hey Kevin, Marshall, what is transmission flaring and what does it sound and feel like when driving? Rhonald 1985 300D 288,000 miles Black Palomino Washington, DC Original Message Follows From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:17:28 -0400 Kevin wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:44:01AM -0400, andrew strasfogel wrote: Vacuum lines! We lined up a 1983 TD and 1985 300 CD turbodiesel to diagnose several vacuum related issues with my visiting friend's 1985 300TD back home and you wouldn't believe the complexity of the vacuum lines in the 1985 300CD vs. the 1983 300TD! Caught me off guard for a minute, but the color coding pointed me in the right direction. Car seems to shift a lot better now, we'll see if it fixes the flaring in the 2-3 shift. Moral of the story: I guess same year same engine same chassis (both 124) isn't enough similarity... K There are OFTEN mid model year revisions. Sometimes it requires the VIN number to be sure (and that isn't always foolproof) and many of the smallest changes aren't included in ANY service literature. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] A Smashing Month.....
In Texas for example a driver of a car is not required to have insurance. The vehicle must be insured by the owner. Any damages caused by the vehicle, irregardles who drove it, goes against this policy. On 11/1/05, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this vary by state? Here in Indiana, the owner of the at-fault vehicle is responsible. E.g. if I loan my car to a friend, and he causes an accident, the claim goes to *my* insurance, not his. Allan -- 1983 300D On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Tom Hargrave wrote: Jon, Remind State Farm that the teenage driver is covered under his parent's insurance regardless of the vehicle he was driving and if he was not listed as a driver of that particular vehicle then shame on them. State Farm may balk at covering the damage to their SUV but they can't run away from the damage to your vehicle because the driver, not the vehicle, is responsible for the damage to your vehicle! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Kanas Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] A Smashing Month. Hello fellow Benz Friends, This has not been our month. Two Wednesdays ago Kim was rear ended in our 2005 Outback 2.5XT by a woman who had recently canceled her insurance. Considering the impact, the Subaru came out of the mishap with flying colors. Kim and I are both very impressed with its performance under very adverse circumstances. On Friday, I experienced what happens when an inexperienced 16yr old who does not understand the concept of left turn yields to through traffic is turned loose in an SUV. The result is about $3600 damage to the nose of my 1988 300TE (estimate with all new parts). I am expecting that this may come real close to totaling the Mercedes, since it is nearly 20 years old with 204K Mi on it. The damage is not severe (grille, hood, radiator, radiator support and condenser), and I would much prefer to repair it than replace it. Although State Farm carries a policy on the SUV involved, the 16yr old was not a named insured, so State Farm has not decided if they want to accept liability for the damage to the Mercedes. I am considering having our family attorney initiate proceedings directly against the at-fault party to see if that can get State Farm off dead center rather than turn this over to Farmers (my insurance) for subrogation. I am hesitant to process the claim through my insurance, as two expensive mishaps, regardless of fault, cannot bode well for my future insurance rates or renewals Any suggestions for how to approach this situation will be gratefully received and considered. I have been very impressed with the 300TE since I have owned it and would like to continue with it for some time to come. If it is totaled, I regret that I am unlikely to purchase a Mercedes replacement. The newer Mercedes do not enjoy the same reputation for build quality or reliability as the 124 series cars. Frankly, I am very concerned I will end up with a money pit. By dealer invitation I took a close look at the new R class in Colorado Springs last week, and came away very impressed. I'm not $58K impressed, but close. Lurking in the back of my mind was keeping the 300TE another couple of years, then going to an R-class when they begin to appear on the pre-owned circuit. I must admit that the 2005 Outback Turbo I bought my wife for valentine's day has been a real eye-opener in performance, build quality, and now safety. -- Best Regards, Jon B Kanas Longmont, Colorado; Cultural Center of the Universe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.qadas.com/~kanas http://www.qadas.com/%7Ekanas AOL Instant Messenger ID: KanasColo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
Most liquids weigh approx 8# - close enough for planning purposes. 26 gal X 8 = 208#'s Your rearend might sag. ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
[MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY?
The first time I even thought about the SDL alarm was when it went off in a large hospital parking lot. I had no idea how to make the horn stop blowing so I drove out hoping it was timed to quit within a year or so. This is the WHY part. I drove right by three uniformed security guards that were directing traffic and they all smiled and shook their heads. I suppose a thief would get the same response. I hear alarms quite often in parking lots and never even look in that direction. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of seat upgrades
I bought an instruction book about rebuilding W123 seats from www.mercedessource.com who also sells new used seat parts. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
Re: [MBZ] OT: Unionized work environments (Was: Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?)
Jeff, I 100% agree with you am also self employed and hate unions. On 10/31/05, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the whole problem with this union/non-union argument. The unions were formed because the management rode roughshod over the employees. (Think of Henry Ford and his goon squads beating their workers) Then when you have a strong union to protect you, you get the union attitude, deadbeat slackers who don't give a shit. it's a lose-lose situation in my opinion. (this is one reason I'm very happy to be self employed; more people should try it!) Of the two evil forces, I'd take the union over the management most times. Personally, I hate big corporations and greedy shareholders and I vote for the small guy with my wallet every time. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] For Rusty -- parts have arrived
DHL just dropped the tie rod assemblies off (10:00 am CST) at my office. That is about 25 hours total from the initial phone call to Georgia to place the order and the parts being delivered to my desk in rural Iowa. Well done. Thanks. Don -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help
Hi all, When I start up in the morning the heat/ac/defrost fan will not come on for about 15 minutes. It finally comes on and works fine for the rest of the day. It happened once or twice during the summer with the AC, but now it happened four days straight when I started to need heat and defrost. The fan does not turn on even in the defrost mode until approximately 15 minutes. One suggestion was to check the relay (maybe it's sticking). I haven't tried that yet. Anyone have a similar problem or could make some suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bob Koziak 1983 300D 114K 1988 190E 126K 1990 300E 87K
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help
your climate control push button box needs to be resoldered. Simple, takes less than an hour. Or you can find a rebuilt one to purchase. Luther -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 1, 2005 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help Hi all, When I start up in the morning the heat/ac/defrost fan will not come on for about 15 minutes. It finally comes on and works fine for the rest of the day. It happened once or twice during the summer with the AC, but now it happened four days straight when I started to need heat and defrost. The fan does not turn on even in the defrost mode until approximately 15 minutes. One suggestion was to check the relay (maybe it's sticking). I haven't tried that yet. Anyone have a similar problem or could make some suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bob Koziak 1983 300D 114K 1988 190E 126K 1990 300E 87K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY?
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the WHY part. I drove right by three uniformed security guards that were directing traffic and they all smiled and shook their heads. I suppose a thief would get the same response. Depends on how bright the guards are. Most car thieves are caught just because they are either (a) stupid (-20 degC and the driver window is 'down', aka busted out, etc.) or (b) just don't fit the car (two 'blue' gangbangahs in a rose red Civic Coupe with a garter hanging from the rearview, etc.). Car alarms are an urban plague. Around here the biggest problem is owners who set them off in their own driveway or at the mall, I assume by hitting the panic button by mistake. What I cannot fathom is the ones who set the alarm to go in and buy a pack of smokes at the self-serve. I know in South Central LA that would be a valid behaviour, but around here the chances of a hijack or random car-grab are about 1 in 55,000,000,000,000,000 (repeating). I only gripe about this as about one-third of them manage to set the damn alarm off when they return to the car. Mac
Re: [MBZ] Square Deal?????
Square trade is associated with eBay and used as a mediation service to remedy complaints. There is some recourse is you actually use eBay, I am not sure what there is all by itself. You do pay for the service. I used it with no success on the POS SDL purchase. the seller allowed the time for proper resolution to lapse by extended use of square trade, then I could no longer avail myself of the remedies ebay had. YMMV On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 07:05 PM, Ralph W. wrote: I assume this is a scam. Has anyone seen something similar on Craigslist? Is Square Deal real? The car in question is a '95 320SL I saw on the Detroit list. Hello , I am very glad that you are interested in my car. The car is an US model with US specs,it passed the test emissions and comes with all the documents you need to register it.It has a Clear Title and it is in Showroom Condition.The title will be signed and nothorized in your name as soon as the payment will be completed.The unit condition is great,still under warranty ( extended at 3 years ).No damage,No scratches or dents,no hidden defects. Shipping will be made directly from Athens/Greece and it will take no more than 4 days for the car to arrive to your location.Shipping is free for you and it can be done via this 2 shipping companies.It will be your choice witch one you want to ship the car for you. -Boeing Commercial Cargo ( delivery in 60 hours ) -Lufthansa Air Cargo insured ( delivery in 72 hours ) The shipping company will manage me a low price for shipping and if you will pay the money transfer taxes,I will pay for the shipping fees.I will arrange for you not to pay any dutyes when the car will pass through customs.In this way the car can be delivered to your home address. You have nothing to worry about this deal because will be done it in a secure way.The most important thing in all my activities, is that I am affiliated at Square Trade and I have a Purchase Protection Account for USD $20,000 and I assume you know what this means.If you did not hear about Square Trade here are their terms: If you will not receive the car not as advertised,Square Trade will refund you the whole amount which you paid me(100 %).In case that you will not receive the car,they will refund you the money back from my account. You can send the money to my name and address but you will not provide me the details of the payment.You will provide the details to Square Trade.They will verify the payment and if is ok,and the money are available under my name they will notify me to procede with the shipping.After you receive and see that the car is the one you want,you just notify Square Trade to forward me the payment details in order for me to pick up my money. Let me know if this is ok with you,so that we can go forward with this deal!About the payment Square Trade will manage in my place the financial details. Regards! Note : I need your full name and shipping address in order to contact Square Trade and start the deal. Ralph Wasserbaech '83 300CD my car '90 300D '01 E320 Wagonwife's cars '82 300TD parts car '82 240D (just sold) '82 300TD currently smashed ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help
Doesn't it have to reach a certain temp before the fan comes on? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, Az Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help your climate control push button box needs to be resoldered. Simple, takes less than an hour. Or you can find a rebuilt one to purchase. Luther -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 1, 2005 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help Hi all, When I start up in the morning the heat/ac/defrost fan will not come on for about 15 minutes. It finally comes on and works fine for the rest of the day. It happened once or twice during the summer with the AC, but now it happened four days straight when I started to need heat and defrost. The fan does not turn on even in the defrost mode until approximately 15 minutes. One suggestion was to check the relay (maybe it's sticking). I haven't tried that yet. Anyone have a similar problem or could make some suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bob Koziak 1983 300D 114K 1988 190E 126K 1990 300E 87K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Vacuum pump check valves
So...if these check valves fail, how do I know? If I'm getting oil in the vacuum lines is this indicitive of check valve failure? How can oil get into the vacuum system unless there is a rip in the diaphram? Every other time the diaphram has ripped I've gotten oil in the air cleaner housing and none in the vacuum lines. I'm stumped. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 01 18:24:36 2005 Received: from mypchelp.com ([66.160.174.158]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EX0oF-0002BV-BN for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:24:35 + Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mypchelp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA1IOU6A026808 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:24:30 -0800 Received: from mypchelp.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mypchelp.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25751-07 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mypchelp.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mypchelp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA1IORN4026803 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:24:27 -0800 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mypchelp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jA1IORcr026802; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:24:27 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: mypchelp.com: apache set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f Received: from 64.168.228.242 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ernestb) by www.mypchelp.com with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:24:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:24:27 -0800 (PST) From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mypchelp.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:24:36 - when i throw 20 gallons (4 x 5 Gallon carboys)of B100 in the trunk and fill up the tank, it's noticeably lower in the rear than if i have a passenger in the back seat. (FWIW, the shocks are fairly new, and springs seem good.) having the weight farther back makes the same weight have more of an effect on the cars attitude; to the point that if i put the carboys at the front of the trunk it doesn't make as much of a difference as if i put them at the back. cheers! e '85 300D - 146K miles B100, in Berkeley
Re: [MBZ] For Rusty -- parts have arrived
Another satisfied Bimby customer, YES! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:12 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] For Rusty -- parts have arrived DHL just dropped the tie rod assemblies off (10:00 am CST) at my office. That is about 25 hours total from the initial phone call to Georgia to place the order and the parts being delivered to my desk in rural Iowa. Well done. Thanks. Don -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help
both my 123 and 126 come on shortly after starting. Say, 5-15 seconds (I've never timed it). -Original Message- From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 1, 2005 1:13 PM To: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help Doesn't it have to reach a certain temp before the fan comes on? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, Az Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] motor oil as a diesel fuel
There is NO question that you can run engine oil (and lots of other things) thru the engine and it WILL power the car. It will also damage it. Whether the damage will be inconsequential or catastrophic is the real question and the answer is that Mercedes HAS studied adding engine oil to fuel and cautions that it should NOT be done. They offer NO kits or advice as to how it might be done safely (as they do with VeggiDiesel). They recommend that the responsible way to treat used engine oil is to recycle it (most Mercedes engines are treated to recycled oil for break-in) not to burn it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
ernest breakfield wrote: when i throw 20 gallons (4 x 5 Gallon carboys)of B100 in the trunk and fill up the tank, it's noticeably lower in the rear than if i have a passenger in the back seat. (FWIW, the shocks are fairly new, and springs seem good.) having the weight farther back makes the same weight have more of an effect on the cars attitude; to the point that if i put the carboys at the front of the trunk it doesn't make as much of a difference as if i put them at the back. And if you stuck a 20 foot pole out the back of the car and hung the B100 on it, the car would sit even lower. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Self-destructing wiring harnesses
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 04:23:13PM -0500, Marshall Booth wrote: As far as I know the earliest wiring harness problems were in 1992 (the S class cars). The 124s had problems when they put in the M104 and OM606 engines. The 201s had NO problems. I don't know if ANY of the 202s had problems. Don't know if they were the exception not the rule, but I have seen a few 202s pop up for sale around here for almost Kaleb prices - needs rewiring or fried wiring harness or something along those lines. Certainly a small enough percentage of what is for sale in the 202 market to not cause serious worry, but... K
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, When I start up in the morning the heat/ac/defrost fan will not come on for about 15 minutes. It finally comes on and works fine for the rest of the day. It happened once or twice during the summer with the AC, but now it happened four days straight when I started to need heat and defrost. The fan does not turn on even in the defrost mode until approximately 15 minutes. One suggestion was to check the relay (maybe it's sticking). I haven't tried that yet. Anyone have a similar problem or could make some suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. The system is designed to not actuate the blower until the engine coolant reaches a specific temperature (about 40 deg. C as I recall). IF the engine temp sensor or it's connection is bad, that could be the problem. If the thermostat in the cooling system is stuck open and the engine is therefore slow to heat, that would also do it. You can bypass the temperature interlock and start the blower by activating the defrost function and then switch to another function. If the calibration of the control unit is off or the switch or plug contacts are dirty, that will do it too. The fan controller can also be bad. There are extensive diagnostics in the climate control section of the CD. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] bar fuse on 300 TD wagon
The pre glow bar fuse keeps burning out. Is this due to a faulty glow plug or the relay? I am a fairly new MB owner with minor mechanical skills so be gentle.
Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
the geometry involved seemed obvious to me (and you, apparently); but that didn't seem apparent to a poster who implied that the weight in the trunk was like a passengers weight in the rear seat,... that's why i thought it necessary and appropriate to be specific and clarify. was there something of value you were trying to add to the discussion? cheers! e ernest breakfield wrote: when i throw 20 gallons (4 x 5 Gallon carboys)of B100 in the trunk and fill up the tank, it's noticeably lower in the rear than if i have a passenger in the back seat. (FWIW, the shocks are fairly new, and springs seem good.) having the weight farther back makes the same weight have more of an effect on the cars attitude; to the point that if i put the carboys at the front of the trunk it doesn't make as much of a difference as if i put them at the back. And if you stuck a 20 foot pole out the back of the car and hung the B100 on it, the car would sit even lower. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] bar fuse on 300 TD wagon
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:25:49PM -0500, Morgan, Michael S HM1 wrote: The pre glow bar fuse keeps burning out. Is this due to a faulty glow plug or the relay? I am a fairly new MB owner with minor mechanical skills so be gentle. Depends on a few things, one of them being what year your 300TD is. Could be that the wrong rating fuse is making it in there, as the 30 looks a lot like the 80 it is supposed to be. A 30 amp fuse won't last long there. K
Re: [MBZ] bar fuse on 300 TD wagon
Morgan, Michael S HM1 wrote: The pre glow bar fuse keeps burning out. Is this due to a faulty glow plug or the relay? I am a fairly new MB owner with minor mechanical skills so be gentle. It is USUALLY the result of a damaged glow plug or even more likely a glow plug wire that shorted (often pinched under something) to ground. You can unplug the LARGE plug inside the relay and measure the resistance of each lead to ground. While the lead to each plug will have very low resistance (0.6 ohms) the lead that's causing the fuse to blow WILL be lower. I've NEVER seen or heard of a bad relay causing the fuse to blow (but I suppose that's possible). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
ernest breakfield wrote: the geometry involved seemed obvious to me (and you, apparently); but that didn't seem apparent to a poster who implied that the weight in the trunk was like a passengers weight in the rear seat,... that's why i thought it necessary and appropriate to be specific and clarify. was there something of value you were trying to add to the discussion? Marshall was obviating the obvious by demonstrating the multiplication of force (in this, the weight of several carboys of B100, which can be depicted as a downward vector acting upon the rear axle) as applied by use of a lever, particularly in reference to storage and transportation of alternative fuels in Mercedes sedans. Keep up, won't you? ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
obviating the obvious exactly. ernest breakfield wrote: the geometry involved seemed obvious to me (and you, apparently); but that didn't seem apparent to a poster who implied that the weight in the trunk was like a passengers weight in the rear seat,... that's why i thought it necessary and appropriate to be specific and clarify. was there something of value you were trying to add to the discussion? Marshall was obviating the obvious by demonstrating the multiplication of force (in this, the weight of several carboys of B100, which can be depicted as a downward vector acting upon the rear axle) as applied by use of a lever, particularly in reference to storage and transportation of alternative fuels in Mercedes sedans. Keep up, won't you? ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
Huh? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank Marshall was obviating the obvious by demonstrating the multiplication of force (in this, the weight of several carboys of B100, which can be depicted as a downward vector acting upon the rear axle) as applied by use of a lever, particularly in reference to storage and transportation of alternative fuels in Mercedes sedans. Keep up, won't you? ;-) -- John L. Ervine
Re: [MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY?
Car alarms are a way for the car makers to charge more. They put in $100 worth of alarm they charge $500 for... A guy I work with lives in NYC. One night he was awakened by a car alarm going off, he stepped out onto his balcony to yell at the idiot who's alarm was going off to find somebody stealing his car. He says he felt so helpless there on his balcony in his shorts watching the guy drive off. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:42:40 -0600 From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The first time I even thought about the SDL alarm was when it went off in a large hospital parking lot. I had no idea how to make the horn stop blowing so I drove out hoping it was timed to quit within a year or so. This is the WHY part. I drove right by three uniformed security guards that were directing traffic and they all smiled and shook their heads. I suppose a thief would get the same response. I hear alarms quite often in parking lots and never even look in that direction. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 01 20:40:06 2005 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EX2vN-00059y-BX for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:40:05 + Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id 2005110120400101200dp0fqe; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:40:01 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:43:42 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:40:06 - Rhonald Angelo wrote: Hey Kevin, Marshall, what is transmission flaring and what does it sound and feel like when driving? As the transmission shifts, the engine will race and the car will usually slow as the shift does not complete promptly. This can be slight or it can be massive. This can result from MANY causes. Excess vacuum modulation (vacuum control valve set incorrectly) can cause it (but this is rare). This may be nothing more than the results of the fluid being low and the weather being cold. Then the first few shifts may well flair. Check to be SURE that the transmission fluid is at the upper line after the car has been driven for 15-20 minutes. If in doubt, have an experienced Mercedes mechanic check the symptoms. If this only occurs when the car is cold, drop the car off to the mechanic the night before and have it checked WHEN it's cold. Worn seals in the transmission CAN result in what's often called morning sickness when the shifts are very slow/soft for the first few shifts when the weather gets cold. This is caused by age/wear and can only be cured with a transmission rebuild! If the flair is confined to just the 2-3 up shift, it may be cured with a relatively simple spring replacement that used to be outlined on the MBZ articles page (but isn't now). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring
What about when your tranny shifts harder when it's cold and mellows out when hot? On 11/1/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rhonald Angelo wrote: Hey Kevin, Marshall, what is transmission flaring and what does it sound and feel like when driving? As the transmission shifts, the engine will race and the car will usually slow as the shift does not complete promptly. This can be slight or it can be massive. This can result from MANY causes. Excess vacuum modulation (vacuum control valve set incorrectly) can cause it (but this is rare). This may be nothing more than the results of the fluid being low and the weather being cold. Then the first few shifts may well flair. Check to be SURE that the transmission fluid is at the upper line after the car has been driven for 15-20 minutes. If in doubt, have an experienced Mercedes mechanic check the symptoms. If this only occurs when the car is cold, drop the car off to the mechanic the night before and have it checked WHEN it's cold. Worn seals in the transmission CAN result in what's often called morning sickness when the shifts are very slow/soft for the first few shifts when the weather gets cold. This is caused by age/wear and can only be cured with a transmission rebuild! If the flair is confined to just the 2-3 up shift, it may be cured with a relatively simple spring replacement that used to be outlined on the MBZ articles page (but isn't now). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] Mufflers
I just replaced the exhaust system on my '95 E300D. I purchased a new replacement rear muffler, and intended to keep the cat and bypass the resonator with a custom pipe. Once the old system was dropped (original system with 199,000 miles on it - repaired several times by previous owner), it became evident that the cat was not easily repairable. I couldn't afford to shell out the $900 or so (street price) for a replacement cat, so I made up a custom Y pipe and tied it into the new rear muffler. With almost 10' of straight pipe before the muffler, it is EASY to understand the purpose of a resonator. I have seen a marked improvement in performance, especially at the upper RPMs, but I now get the dreaded angry vacuum cleaner sound under full throttle. I am planning on installing an inexpensive glass pack midway on the pipe to resolve this. All in all, I am very happy with the results. If anyone is interested, I will post pics at www.wrxtra.com/Misc/Automotive/Mercedes/exhaust sometime today. And, if anyone wants to know, this is of course a racing diesel that is off-road only, so I do not need the cat anymore... J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: 10/31/2005
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans lifespan
Allan Streib wrote: My '83 300D has 162K miles on the trans -- the first winter I had the car it had some flaring in the low gears when the trans was cold, which was cured by Mobil-1 ATF. Then about 5000 miles ago the B2 piston failed (actually the flaring could have been an early symptom of that problem). Fortunately the B2 repair is straightforward. Since then my trans has been trouble-free. There is USUALLY no warning of a B-2 piston problem - when the piston shatters, it shatters. It doesn't shatter a little bit at a time. Before it shatters, it doesn't result in flair. After it shatters the car just won't move forward (on it's own) - but I suppose you could call the the ultimate FLAIR! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring
Gabriel S. wrote: What about when your tranny shifts harder when it's cold and mellows out when hot? If the fluids level is just a little low, that can cause what you describe and every Mercedes transmission manufactured before about the mid '80s did that to a greater or lessor degree. My '67 200D used to snap my neck on the first few shifts of the day when it was cold unless I was VERY careful. Finally in the mid '80s they got it right. The early '80s transmissions CAN be modified, but it's usually not worth the cost and labor unless you are rebuilding the transmission. The Mercedes rebuilds, used to come with all the latest updates (and MOST aftermarket rebuilds did not). If EVERYTHING is adjusted properly (put gauges on the transmission and set the pressures, adjust the vacuum modulator, set the shift linkage so the up and down shift speeds are correct and the vacuum from the vacuum control valve varies from high at idle to none at full pedal) then changing the modulator to one of the improved ones MAY be worthwhile. Last time I checked the revised modulator was well over $100 and I expect it's gone up since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness
Missouri Chris --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Or for the non-locals, that would be ... ? Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring
Once again, thanks. On 11/1/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: What about when your tranny shifts harder when it's cold and mellows out when hot? If the fluids level is just a little low, that can cause what you describe and every Mercedes transmission manufactured before about the mid '80s did that to a greater or lessor degree. My '67 200D used to snap my neck on the first few shifts of the day when it was cold unless I was VERY careful. Finally in the mid '80s they got it right. The early '80s transmissions CAN be modified, but it's usually not worth the cost and labor unless you are rebuilding the transmission. The Mercedes rebuilds, used to come with all the latest updates (and MOST aftermarket rebuilds did not). If EVERYTHING is adjusted properly (put gauges on the transmission and set the pressures, adjust the vacuum modulator, set the shift linkage so the up and down shift speeds are correct and the vacuum from the vacuum control valve varies from high at idle to none at full pedal) then changing the modulator to one of the improved ones MAY be worthwhile. Last time I checked the revised modulator was well over $100 and I expect it's gone up since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY?
its sad that some of them just put these over priced noise makers in cars and they are nothing more than a big horn and black box that squaks different noises. Guess thats why I was never afraid of my VW being stolen since the alarm is almost like the new ones that Mercedes uses. Once activated it disables the fuel pump and starter and its factory to boot. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:18:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY? Car alarms are a way for the car makers to charge more. They put in $100 worth of alarm they charge $500 for... A guy I work with lives in NYC. One night he was awakened by a car alarm going off, he stepped out onto his balcony to yell at the idiot who's alarm was going off to find somebody stealing his car. He says he felt so helpless there on his balcony in his shorts watching the guy drive off. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:42:40 -0600 From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The first time I even thought about the SDL alarm was when it went off in a large hospital parking lot. I had no idea how to make the horn stop blowing so I drove out hoping it was timed to quit within a year or so. This is the WHY part. I drove right by three uniformed security guards that were directing traffic and they all smiled and shook their heads. I suppose a thief would get the same response. I hear alarms quite often in parking lots and never even look in that direction. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
[MBZ] BioD on David Letterman last night (!)
Woody Harrelson was on David Letterman last night speaking about BioD, Rudolf Diesel's vision for his engine, etc. He drives a diesel VW and runs BioD. He commented on using Mercedes Diesels...didn't catch if he said old or not. I was rather stunned. He referred people to his site...Lt. Don will like it. Here is the part on BioD: http://www.voiceyourself.com/05_ponderthis/05_laurascomm.php Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] bar fuse on 300 TD wagon
My 79 TD has been a bit reluctant starting the last few times, so the other evening I decided to have a look at it. Was dark, I hit the glow and saw one of the wavy wires (series system) glowing brightly at the the tip of the #2 glow plug. Shut it off, took off the wire from #1 and #2 (just remove the 6?mm nut to pull all the bits off), cleaned the corrosion from the nuts and wires and insulator caps and glow plug threaded ends with some sandpaper and wire brush, put it all back together, and appears to be working better now. No idea why it did that, the others are not corroded. I hope the plugs glow like that bad connection did! Probably has nothing to do with your problem, but might be worth a bit of cleaning anyway, esp before winter is coming. What Marshall said regarding testing the plugs, whichever kind of system you have. --R Marshall Booth wrote: Morgan, Michael S HM1 wrote: The pre glow bar fuse keeps burning out. Is this due to a faulty glow plug or the relay? I am a fairly new MB owner with minor mechanical skills so be gentle. It is USUALLY the result of a damaged glow plug or even more likely a glow plug wire that shorted (often pinched under something) to ground. You can unplug the LARGE plug inside the relay and measure the resistance of each lead to ground. While the lead to each plug will have very low resistance (0.6 ohms) the lead that's causing the fuse to blow WILL be lower. I've NEVER seen or heard of a bad relay causing the fuse to blow (but I suppose that's possible). Marshall
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 - Back on the road
Just wanted to say that EM is finally on the road once more - three engines and a trip to my local indy later. Third engine seems to run well, and it is even shifting better. Problems that had me take it from the Melbourne shop to my nephew here in jax: - Oil pressure pegging at key turn and then dropping to mid range - Temp gauge not working at all These two and an assurance by engine swappers that the gauge must be bad caused me to buy another instrument cluster. My nephew discovered the two were wired to each other's sensors. My gauges were fine and once they were wired correctly worked great. I needed a new rheostat anyway. - Kick down not working as it should - the kick down was mis-routed into and through the transmission, works fine now. - Cruise control not working - several vacuum lines off - one of the injectors was leaking - repaired Additionally, one or more wires were plugged into the wrong sockets - does not seem to have caused any damage, at least. Three hours of labor and $12.00 in parts and I am pleased to have EM back on the road - as is my wife now that I don't need to use her car. After 8 weeks of that it almost caused our first argument in about 10 years. Prior to engine swapping adventure it would get hot above 80 MPH and was normally at least on the 80 at running temps - at times higher. Now it approaches the 80 mark under load, have not had it over 80 MPH long enough to see if it will overheat [happened to be a State Trooper in front of me on the interstate when I was planning to try it out]. So - finally, the car runs better than it ever has for me, and shifts better than before. TOO MUCH $$$ for what was done, but I do have her back. AND [only associated to MB in that you could take pics of yours with them] I just ran across two old Sony DSC-F1 cameras in my office closet. They both are working well, and do better in low light situations than my new Minolta. Two cameras but only one charger and one serial cable. They will not work on WIN 98 or XP. I think they will work on 3.1 and WIN 95. If any of you lister's are running the old Windows and would like them just send me an address and I will ship them to you. BillR 1981 300SD EM 265K / 200k engine 2001 I30 'Hers' 71K
Re: [MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY?
That is the difference between NYC and Texas, where one has options to prevent feeling helpless against criminals. Re: alarms, they do very little other than annoy the neighbors. An ignition shutoff is much better as the thief will not spend too much time trying to figure out why the car won't start after popping the ignition lock. I had this thing on a car back in college, it was a plug/socket thing that had about 10 wires going into it, and a cap that connected the proper ones, you took the cap off the socket and took it with you. A pair of the wires were hooked to the distributor wiring to keep the car from firing. It saved my car once after some AH popped the ignition and tried to steal it from a parking lot in Cambridge, MA, car theft capital of the world at the time. A couple weeks later I was out in the lot changing oil, I see a car with 3 young urban individuals driving through the lot slowly, two of them get out of the car, go to a new Caddy, pop the door, start it in about 15 sec and peel out of there with the 3rd one following in the original vehicle. I called the cops a few minutes later with a description of both vehicles and the perps, and they just laughed. --R Curt Raymond wrote: Car alarms are a way for the car makers to charge more. They put in $100 worth of alarm they charge $500 for... A guy I work with lives in NYC. One night he was awakened by a car alarm going off, he stepped out onto his balcony to yell at the idiot who's alarm was going off to find somebody stealing his car. He says he felt so helpless there on his balcony in his shorts watching the guy drive off. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:42:40 -0600 From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Car alarm system, WHY? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The first time I even thought about the SDL alarm was when it went off in a large hospital parking lot. I had no idea how to make the horn stop blowing so I drove out hoping it was timed to quit within a year or so. This is the WHY part. I drove right by three uniformed security guards that were directing traffic and they all smiled and shook their heads. I suppose a thief would get the same response. I hear alarms quite often in parking lots and never even look in that direction. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Mufflers
You need to get a chrome coffee can to put on the end of the tailpipe and leave the sound as it is. Add an R sticker or two and you will be mucho cool and the car will be much faster and the women will swoon over you. --R J.B. Hebert wrote: I just replaced the exhaust system on my '95 E300D. I purchased a new replacement rear muffler, and intended to keep the cat and bypass the resonator with a custom pipe. Once the old system was dropped (original system with 199,000 miles on it - repaired several times by previous owner), it became evident that the cat was not easily repairable. I couldn't afford to shell out the $900 or so (street price) for a replacement cat, so I made up a custom Y pipe and tied it into the new rear muffler. With almost 10' of straight pipe before the muffler, it is EASY to understand the purpose of a resonator. I have seen a marked improvement in performance, especially at the upper RPMs, but I now get the dreaded angry vacuum cleaner sound under full throttle. I am planning on installing an inexpensive glass pack midway on the pipe to resolve this. All in all, I am very happy with the results. If anyone is interested, I will post pics at www.wrxtra.com/Misc/Automotive/Mercedes/exhaust sometime today. And, if anyone wants to know, this is of course a racing diesel that is off-road only, so I do not need the cat anymore... J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D
[MBZ] Sony digi cameras
That's a deal I can't pass up on the cameras. I'm typing this on a Win95 box. Mitch Haley 5380 w spicerville hwy charlotte mi 48813
Re: [MBZ] Mufflers
Dont forget the bi plane wing! On 11/1/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to get a chrome coffee can to put on the end of the tailpipe and leave the sound as it is. Add an R sticker or two and you will be mucho cool and the car will be much faster and the women will swoon over you. --R J.B. Hebert wrote: I just replaced the exhaust system on my '95 E300D. I purchased a new replacement rear muffler, and intended to keep the cat and bypass the resonator with a custom pipe. Once the old system was dropped (original system with 199,000 miles on it - repaired several times by previous owner), it became evident that the cat was not easily repairable. I couldn't afford to shell out the $900 or so (street price) for a replacement cat, so I made up a custom Y pipe and tied it into the new rear muffler. With almost 10' of straight pipe before the muffler, it is EASY to understand the purpose of a resonator. I have seen a marked improvement in performance, especially at the upper RPMs, but I now get the dreaded angry vacuum cleaner sound under full throttle. I am planning on installing an inexpensive glass pack midway on the pipe to resolve this. All in all, I am very happy with the results. If anyone is interested, I will post pics at www.wrxtra.com/Misc/Automotive/Mercedes/exhausthttp://www.wrxtra.com/Misc/Automotive/Mercedes/exhaustsometime today. And, if anyone wants to know, this is of course a racing diesel that is off-road only, so I do not need the cat anymore... J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] bar fuse on 300 TD wagon
Rich Thomas wrote:
My 79 TD has been a bit reluctant starting the last few times, so the
other evening I decided to have a look at it. Was dark, I hit the glow
and saw one of the wavy wires (series system) glowing brightly at the
the tip of the #2 glow plug. Shut it off, took off the wire from #1 and
#2 (just remove the 6?mm nut to pull all the bits off), cleaned the
corrosion from the nuts and wires and insulator caps and glow plug
threaded ends with some sandpaper and wire brush, put it all back
together, and appears to be working better now. No idea why it did
that, the others are not corroded. I hope the plugs glow like that bad
connection did!
Probably has nothing to do with your problem, but might be worth a bit
of cleaning anyway, esp before winter is coming.
What Marshall said regarding testing the plugs, whichever kind of system
you have.
I made the assumption that your 300TD had parallel plugs (most did). If
your car has series plugs ('78-'79 300TDs had series plugs) things are
just a little different and plug failure or damage to the connecting
wires CAN result in repeated fuse failures. Troubleshooting is a little
more difficult.
Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Sony digi cameras
I'm typing this on a Win95 box. Does the box still have the safety seal attached? (joke)
Re: [MBZ] BioD on David Letterman last night (!)
I think BioD is going to take off but will probably not be a recycling approach (except by the loonie fringe like some of us, yers trulyreally trying hard to be included) but rather another farm subsidy thing like ethanol. I suppose one can continue in this vein even so: We can honestly say we are 100% satisfied with the fuel and feel especially good every time we drive past a gas station knowing we are not contributing to the insanity of the oil mongers and destroying our sacred Mother Earth. Whatever floats yer boat, or powers your diesel, or both! --R (trying to figure out volcano power) Christopher McCann wrote: Woody Harrelson was on David Letterman last night speaking about BioD, Rudolf Diesel's vision for his engine, etc. He drives a diesel VW and runs BioD. He commented on using Mercedes Diesels...didn't catch if he said old or not. I was rather stunned. He referred people to his site...Lt. Don will like it. Here is the part on BioD: http://www.voiceyourself.com/05_ponderthis/05_laurascomm.php Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] bar fuse on 300 TD wagon
Could be either, but I would pull the six wire plug and check the glow plugs for shorts -- they can fail by the filament welding to the side of the finger and thus execessive current draw. Check the wires, too -- a misplaced wire that has rubbed through will definitely blow the fuse. It is possible the relay is bad, too -- if the wire all check out, test the relay for current leakage to ground. Most likely the glow plugs or wires, though -- the normal relay failure it so fail to turn the glow plugs on. Peter On Tuesday, November 1, 2005, at 01:25 PM, Morgan, Michael S HM1 wrote: The pre glow bar fuse keeps burning out. Is this due to a faulty glow plug or the relay? I am a fairly new MB owner with minor mechanical skills so be gentle. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Mufflers
Funny you should mention that. Sat night about 10PM I was on the freeway, going maybe 60-65, signal a lane change, look over my right shoulder, go to change lanes, then happen to see this little car blasting past me, fully riced, slammed, biplane wings, ground kit, vid screens, driver leaning to the middle slouched down in the seat, etc. and NO HEADLIGHTS!!! I would guess he was doing maybe 80 and must have been overtaking me to the right and was totally invisible. I was, um, energized fully at that point. I was glad I was in the wife's Suburban, at least I probably would have won the engagement though with some significant damage. Just another Sat night on Houston's freeways. --R Gabriel S. wrote: Dont forget the bi plane wing! On 11/1/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to get a chrome coffee can to put on the end of the tailpipe and leave the sound as it is. Add an R sticker or two and you will be mucho cool and the car will be much faster and the women will swoon over you. --R J.B. Hebert wrote: I just replaced the exhaust system on my '95 E300D. I purchased a new replacement rear muffler, and intended to keep the cat and bypass the resonator with a custom pipe. Once the old system was dropped (original system with 199,000 miles on it - repaired several times by previous owner), it became evident that the cat was not easily repairable. I couldn't afford to shell out the $900 or so (street price) for a replacement cat, so I made up a custom Y pipe and tied it into the new rear muffler. With almost 10' of straight pipe before the muffler, it is EASY to understand the purpose of a resonator. I have seen a marked improvement in performance, especially at the upper RPMs, but I now get the dreaded angry vacuum cleaner sound under full throttle. I am planning on installing an inexpensive glass pack midway on the pipe to resolve this. All in all, I am very happy with the results. If anyone is interested, I will post pics at www.wrxtra.com/Misc/Automotive/Mercedes/exhausthttp://www.wrxtra.com/Misc/Automotive/Mercedes/exhaustsometime today. And, if anyone wants to know, this is of course a racing diesel that is off-road only, so I do not need the cat anymore... J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help
in heating mode, yes. Bob Rentfro wrote: Doesn't it have to reach a certain temp before the fan comes on? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, Az Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help your climate control push button box needs to be resoldered. Simple, takes less than an hour. Or you can find a rebuilt one to purchase. Luther -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 1, 2005 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1983 300D AC/Heat/Defrost Fan Problem- Help Hi all, When I start up in the morning the heat/ac/defrost fan will not come on for about 15 minutes. It finally comes on and works fine for the rest of the day. It happened once or twice during the summer with the AC, but now it happened four days straight when I started to need heat and defrost. The fan does not turn on even in the defrost mode until approximately 15 minutes. One suggestion was to check the relay (maybe it's sticking). I haven't tried that yet. Anyone have a similar problem or could make some suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bob Koziak 1983 300D 114K 1988 190E 126K 1990 300E 87K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump check valves
If you have oil in the vaccum lines either the diaphram in the fuel shutoff valve is leaking or the diaphram in the vacuum pump is. Bob Rentfro wrote: So...if these check valves fail, how do I know? If I'm getting oil in the vacuum lines is this indicitive of check valve failure? How can oil get into the vacuum system unless there is a rip in the diaphram? Every other time the diaphram has ripped I've gotten oil in the air cleaner housing and none in the vacuum lines. I'm stumped. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump check valves
Bob Rentfro wrote: So...if these check valves fail, how do I know? If I'm getting oil in the= vacuum lines is this indicitive of check valve failure? How can oil get in= to the vacuum system unless there is a rip in the diaphram? Every other tim= e the diaphram has ripped I've gotten oil in the air cleaner housing and no= ne in the vacuum lines. I'm stumped. = Oil in the vacuum lines USUALLY comes from a rip in the shutoff valve = diaphragm (on the injection pump) or from the transmission (if your car = has a vacuum modulator that leaks), but when the pump diaphragm is = damaged, oil CAN migrate from the pump thru the lines each time the = engine is shut down. For it to fill the lines takes some time (usually = many months) since when the engine is running there is some force = drawing the oil back toward the pump until the pump completely fails. As to diagnosing the pump - PUT a vacuum gauge on it, read the vacuum = produced and how fast the vacuum drops when the pump is shut down. = Covered in 43-660 of the chassis manual (attached). Marshall -- = Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 43-660.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 158525 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051= 101/40d1247b/43-660.pdf
[MBZ] 400 laptop!
http://news.com.com/Will+Wal-Mart+sell+398+notebooks%2C+desktops/2100-1041_3-5924640.html?tag=xtra -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
