Re: [MBZ] Radio
No ... well, maybe ... but what I'd love to get my hands on is the original wiring harness from a W123. Moron who owned my 240D prior to me clipped the old one out when he put in a WalMart special radio. On 12/11/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone need a nice Blaupunkt cassette am/fm player for their MB contact me off line for details. It works and is just sitting around. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] Hey Loren --
Saw the daughter tonight at her place of employment. [I don't think she recognized me.] You have her driving a W123 and not the SL? -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
He probably blocked out the images. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George Gregory Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap On 12/11/05 2:04 PM, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'd look a lot better without the gangstalicious gold wheels. Put some bundts on there and you might have something. That thang was on eBay a couple years ago. I'm surprised that Kleb does not remember it. ___ GG ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
rumor has it that Tom wrote: Look in the back ground on one of the photos nice 123 wagons and sedans possibly for sale??/Tom On 12/11/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://club123d.org/listings/page10.html Wow, could that possibly be any uglier? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo From the URL and email address, it seems this is being sold by the club president. I was handed a card for this club while at the Flying J truckstop in Sullivan MO. (about 65 miles west of downtown St. Louis on I-44) About a year or more ago, I met a fellow at the Sullivan airport with a W123. He also informed me of the existance of this club. http://club123d.org There seems to be a lot of words but not much information. Puzzling. It so happens that I have more than a 1/2 dozen W123 diesels - but I _still_ haven't figured out why I would want to belong to a Exclusive club for W123 chassis cars!! Silver membership is $25 per car per year. http://club123d.org/page11.html Here's another humorous page - for next years W123 car show! http://club123d.org/events/page23.html Maybe I'm an anti-social, stuckup hillbilly, but I'd rather send my $25 to Rusty and actually _get_ something for my money!! Besides, I don't have time to teach someone else all the stuff I've learned from this list and it's ancestors... Oh, and those two guys I meet who are so eager to promote their club were _very_ eager to have me join. Smells fishy to me. Philip, who likes Kaleb's club
[MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold?
To all On the way back from buying it, my co-pilot drove the first 50 miles and I followed to observe. He was driving it like it was stolen but I never saw ANY sign of smoke. I drove it the last 300 miles and the temp gauge never got to 80. To stay warm, I selected defrost and never got too hot like I have in other MBs. I also never saw smoke on FOT from a start. Today I removed the thermostat, hoping it would be stuck open, but it wasn't. I tested it on the stove and it begin to open well before bubbles begin to form and was fully open before a boil. I don't know if this is normal or not. MPG = 23, is that about right? Any ideas? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 02:24:33 2005 Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.52) id 1EldMf-0005YD-ED for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:24:33 + Received: from tomserver (pcp04555837pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net [68.62.187.239]) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jBC2OUTI1374698 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:24:31 -0600 (CST) From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:24:22 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:24:33 - Read the W123 annoncement and you'll note the following: All judging decisions are final and made by the Club 123D President. On other words, no panel of judges. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:59 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap rumor has it that Tom wrote: Look in the back ground on one of the photos nice 123 wagons and sedans possibly for sale??/Tom On 12/11/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://club123d.org/listings/page10.html Wow, could that possibly be any uglier? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo From the URL and email address, it seems this is being sold by the club president. I was handed a card for this club while at the Flying J truckstop in Sullivan MO. (about 65 miles west of downtown St. Louis on I-44) About a year or more ago, I met a fellow at the Sullivan airport with a W123. He also informed me of the existance of this club. http://club123d.org There seems to be a lot of words but not much information. Puzzling. It so happens that I have more than a 1/2 dozen W123 diesels - but I _still_ haven't figured out why I would want to belong to a Exclusive club for W123 chassis cars!! Silver membership is $25 per car per year. http://club123d.org/page11.html Here's another humorous page - for next years W123 car show! http://club123d.org/events/page23.html Maybe I'm an anti-social, stuckup hillbilly, but I'd rather send my $25 to Rusty and actually _get_ something for my money!! Besides, I don't have time to teach someone else all the stuff I've learned from this list and it's ancestors... Oh, and those two guys I meet who are so eager to promote their club were _very_ eager to have me join. Smells fishy to me. Philip, who likes Kaleb's club ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold?
I'd still replace the thermostat, in spite of your kitchen test. That can be the only variable here that I can imagine. Pretty cheap test. If nothing else, you will have a spare working thermostat in your trunk. I couldn't believe the difference when I replace mine about a year ago. Don On 12/12/05, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all On the way back from buying it, my co-pilot drove the first 50 miles and I followed to observe. He was driving it like it was stolen but I never saw ANY sign of smoke. I drove it the last 300 miles and the temp gauge never got to 80. To stay warm, I selected defrost and never got too hot like I have in other MBs. I also never saw smoke on FOT from a start. Today I removed the thermostat, hoping it would be stuck open, but it wasn't. I tested it on the stove and it begin to open well before bubbles begin to form and was fully open before a boil. I don't know if this is normal or not. MPG = 23, is that about right? Any ideas? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold?
I will replace the T-stat, I am making up my Rusty order right now. I'll also test the old and new side by side on the stove, JFME :) Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd still replace the thermostat, in spite of your kitchen test. That can be the only variable here that I can imagine. Pretty cheap test. If nothing else, you will have a spare working thermostat in your trunk. I couldn't believe the difference when I replace mine about a year ago. Don On 12/12/05, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all On the way back from buying it, my co-pilot drove the first 50 miles and I followed to observe. He was driving it like it was stolen but I never saw ANY sign of smoke. I drove it the last 300 miles and the temp gauge never got to 80. To stay warm, I selected defrost and never got too hot like I have in other MBs. I also never saw smoke on FOT from a start. Today I removed the thermostat, hoping it would be stuck open, but it wasn't. I tested it on the stove and it begin to open well before bubbles begin to form and was fully open before a boil. I don't know if this is normal or not. MPG = 23, is that about right? Any ideas? Harry Watkins
Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold?
That or a dodgy temp sender/gauge. Does the radiator feel hot after going for a drive? Hendrik - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold? I'd still replace the thermostat, in spite of your kitchen test. That can be the only variable here that I can imagine. Pretty cheap test. If nothing else, you will have a spare working thermostat in your trunk. I couldn't believe the difference when I replace mine about a year ago. Don On 12/12/05, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all On the way back from buying it, my co-pilot drove the first 50 miles and I followed to observe. He was driving it like it was stolen but I never saw ANY sign of smoke. I drove it the last 300 miles and the temp gauge never got to 80. To stay warm, I selected defrost and never got too hot like I have in other MBs. I also never saw smoke on FOT from a start. Today I removed the thermostat, hoping it would be stuck open, but it wasn't. I tested it on the stove and it begin to open well before bubbles begin to form and was fully open before a boil. I don't know if this is normal or not. MPG = 23, is that about right? Any ideas? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
[MBZ] Well, that was exciting
Decided to plug in the block heater on my car (an '82 300D) tonight, which I had never done before. Strung the extension cord out to the car, plugged the block heater in, and was treated to a small, colorful electric fire emanating from the vicinity of the radiator. I can hardly wait until morning to see just exactly where the problem was, but even without seeing it I'm sure I'll be replacing some wiring --mf _ L. Mark Finch Indianapolis 1982 300D Turbodiesel
Re: [MBZ] Seriously?
I found a nearly identical car last year in Seattle for $600 but wouldn't take $2500 for it now that all the bugs are worked out. Manual climate control is wonderful. AC actually works. It's been an absolutely superb daily driver for 6 months now but may hand the keys to one of the kids who needs a car. The other 240D (75 W115) is still running daughter to and from UW campus but sustained cosmetic battle damage from late night hit and runs by frat row kids. Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously a turd-brown '79 240D with manual windows and locks for $5K? WOW! I know the stick-shift makes a difference, but sheesh! http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/116880776.html Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 t Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 03:35:34 2005 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EleTI-0002yQ-QI for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:35:29 + Received: from dogear.com ([206.63.94.252]) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBC3ZWrg014692; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:35:32 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:35:17 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:35:32 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:35:34 - sign of smoke. I drove it the last 300 miles and the temp gauge never got to 80. To stay warm, I selected defrost and never got too hot like I have in other MBs. I also never saw smoke on FOT from a start. Two independent indications of a stuck-open (or opens-early) thermostat. Today I removed the thermostat, hoping it would be stuck open, but it wasn't. I tested it on the stove and it begin to open well before bubbles begin to form and was fully open before a boil. I don't know if this is normal or not. Sounds like it opens too early to me. One of the failure modes. You need a thermometer in the pan to derive the most information from this test. MPG = 23, is that about right? Maybe a tetch low, but not being up to full operating temperature hurts mileage. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold?
Harry, The thermostat response is critically calibrated. A fraction of a millimeter in valve position can make a big difference in coolant flow control. Bruce Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will replace the T-stat, I am making up my Rusty order right now. I'll also test the old and new side by side on the stove, JFME :) Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: LT Don I'd still replace the thermostat, in spite of your kitchen test. That can be the only variable here that I can imagine. Pretty cheap test. If nothing else, you will have a spare working thermostat in your trunk. I couldn't believe the difference when I replace mine about a year ago. Don On 12/12/05, Harry Watkins wrote: To all On the way back from buying it, my co-pilot drove the first 50 miles and I followed to observe. He was driving it like it was stolen but I never saw ANY sign of smoke. I drove it the last 300 miles and the temp gauge never got to 80. To stay warm, I selected defrost and never got too hot like I have in other MBs. I also never saw smoke on FOT from a start. Today I removed the thermostat, hoping it would be stuck open, but it wasn't. I tested it on the stove and it begin to open well before bubbles begin to form and was fully open before a boil. I don't know if this is normal or not. MPG = 23, is that about right? Any ideas? Harry Watkins ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 03:52:52 2005 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.71]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Elek8-0004SK-Og for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:52:52 + Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([209.215.57.90]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:52:50 -0500 Received: from D4W8P421 ([209.215.57.90]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:52:49 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:53:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:52:52 - Hendrik Dummy me, I never even thought about checking the radiator when we stopped, I guess I was convinced it was really running cool because of being cold in the cab. I'll wait for my new thermostat before going back up, then I'll check if the T-stat doesn't cure it. Thanks. Harry - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] That or a dodgy temp sender/gauge. Does the radiator feel hot after going for a drive? Hendrik
Re: [MBZ] Why is my 85 300 TD running cold?
Harry Watkins wrote: To all On the way back from buying it, my co-pilot drove the first 50 miles and I followed to observe. He was driving it like it was stolen but I never saw ANY sign of smoke. I drove it the last 300 miles and the temp gauge never got to 80. To stay warm, I selected defrost and never got too hot like I have in other MBs. I also never saw smoke on FOT from a start. Today I removed the thermostat, hoping it would be stuck open, but it wasn't. I tested it on the stove and it begin to open well before bubbles begin to form and was fully open before a boil. I don't know if this is normal or not. MPG = 23, is that about right? Well IF the temp gauge is accurate, the thermostat isn't working quite as it should. If the gauge (and sensor) aren't working correctly, then what you've seen is PROBABLY normal. There should be NO smoke except when the engine speed is above 4000 rpm and the engine is FULLY LOADED (like when it's accelerating with the pedal to the floor). The thermostat should START to open at 80 deg. C and should be fully open at 94, well below boiling (at sea level). What you've described doesn't mean that the old one wasn't jamming open when installed. Did the NEW thermostat change the engine temperature? Thermostats are considered expendables - to be replaced any time there is ANY question. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
I've often wondered who this guy is. He is only known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has advertised in the Gateway MBCA Club Newsletter for a while. I believe (at least originally) that the $25 included some kind of shop service. Perhaps Little Tommy, and area 123 Guru, has some insight into who this might be or what its all about. Here's what I found out as far as the website goes: Domain ID D107821380-LROR Domain Name CLUB123D.ORG Created On 15-Oct-2005 18:43:58 UTC Last Updated On 15-Oct-2005 18:43:59 UTC Expiration Date 15-Oct-2006 18:43:58 UTC _ Sponsoring Registrar Register.com Inc. (R71-LROR) Status CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED TRANSFER PROHIBITED _ Registrant ID 341317698585b755 Registrant Name Vince Layton Registrant Street1 5803 A Telegraph Registrant City St Louis Registrant State/Province MO Registrant Postal Code 63129 Registrant Country US Registrant Phone +1.3146073025 Registrant Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ GG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fmiser I was handed a card for this club while at the Flying J truckstop in Sullivan MO. (about 65 miles west of downtown St. Louis on I-44) About a year or more ago, I met a fellow at the Sullivan airport with a W123. He also informed me of the existance of this club. http://club123d.org There seems to be a lot of words but not much information. Puzzling. It so happens that I have more than a 1/2 dozen W123 diesels - but I _still_ haven't figured out why I would want to belong to a Exclusive club for W123 chassis cars!! Silver membership is $25 per car per year. http://club123d.org/page11.html Here's another humorous page - for next years W123 car show! http://club123d.org/events/page23.html Maybe I'm an anti-social, stuckup hillbilly, but I'd rather send my $25 to Rusty and actually _get_ something for my money!! Besides, I don't have time to teach someone else all the stuff I've learned from this list and it's ancestors... Oh, and those two guys I meet who are so eager to promote their club were _very_ eager to have me join. Smells fishy to me. Philip, who likes Kaleb's club
Re: [MBZ] Well, that was exciting
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:29:39 -0500 L.Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decided to plug in the block heater on my car (an '82 300D) tonight, which I had never done before. Strung the extension cord out to the car, plugged the block heater in, and was treated to a small, colorful electric fire emanating from the vicinity of the radiator. I can hardly wait until morning to see just exactly where the problem was, but even without seeing it I'm sure I'll be replacing some wiring Sounds like you need to replace the cord that plugs in the block heater and which you plugged into your extension cord. Call Rusty at (800) 741-5252 and he will get one speeding on its way to you. Other than the cord, which then connects to the block heater, there should be nothing else that connects to 120 VAC in your car. Craig
Re: [MBZ] fuel additive
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 19:04:47 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you swore by GE OTR 8932Q? Not available in the midwest (no distributor), so I bought a case (4 gallons treats 4,000 gallons - for gas stations) direct from the factory at wholesale price - they even billed me for it - no money up front. Put it in a STA-BIL container and figured out a little chart (I think it's 1/4 oz per 2 gals - I forget, taped the chart to the bottle)) and use it for anti-gel. Is a good water DISPERSANT too along with all the other usual claims. I Googled for it but found nothing relevant. Where did you get it? Craig
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
George Gregory wrote: Perhaps Little Tommy, and area 123 Guru, has some insight into who this might be or what its all about. If I'm a guru, I weep for the future of the 123. I don't have much to add that hasn't already been said, but that this is the first I've heard of this club, and I'm not entirely sure I get it, either. At least not for fifty bucks, I don't. I do find it amusing that there's a 123 club in St Louis, given how few of these cars are still plying the area roads. Tom '82 300D 325k - potential trophy winner for Most Battle Scars at the 2006 W123 Concours d'Oxidation
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
rumor has it that Tom wrote: Read the W123 annoncement and you'll note the following: All judging decisions are final and made by the Club 123D President. On other words, no panel of judges. Here's another humorous page - for next years W123 car show! http://club123d.org/events/page23.html *chuckle* That was only _one_ of the lines that, um, bothered me! Seems he gets to judge the crowd choice and the owners choice too! Philip, club free
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
rumor has it that George wrote: I've often wondered who this guy is. He is only known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I scanned the front and back of the business card. But to make the fine print readable the images is about 500K. Is that too big to send to the list? Philip, enquiring minds want to know...
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
His first name is apparently Vince, goes under the handle vlayton on the w123-world.org forum. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap rumor has it that George wrote: I've often wondered who this guy is. He is only known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I scanned the front and back of the business card. But to make the fine print readable the images is about 500K. Is that too big to send to the list? Philip, enquiring minds want to know... ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] 123d club, was W123 limo going cheap
Hendrik Riessen wrote: His first name is apparently Vince, goes under the handle vlayton on the w123-world.org forum. Well, switchboard.com does have a listing for a Vincent J Layton II in St Louis.
Re: [MBZ] Well, that was exciting
My order has been placed. The car did start without it at 13°F, though a tad reluctantly. --mf On Dec 11, 2005, at 11:26 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: Sounds like you need to replace the cord that plugs in the block heater and which you plugged into your extension cord. Call Rusty at (800) 741-5252 and he will get one speeding on its way to you. _ L. Mark Finch Indianapolis 1982 300D Turbodiesel
[MBZ] '75 300D no fuel 1 or 5
My work buddy came about a '75 300D that won't start. He broke the injector lines loose and tried to start it, and 1 and 5 are getting no fuel. What might cause this? Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
[MBZ] '75 300D no fuel at injectors 1 or 5
Changed the subject My work buddy came about a '75 300D that won't start. He broke the injector lines loose and tried to start it, and 1 and 5 are getting no fuel. What might cause this? Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] my wife did it!
maybe...but hard to tell as they are all 6 (years old, not feet) and under. Kate (4) and Madeline (1) seem like that that...the rest are a bit wall-flowerish. Chris Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris said she said... She said, Well, if it's my car, I better know how to work it. One question...are there any more at home like her Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 14:34:00 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Eloka-0006lS-8A for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:34:00 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so1684159wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:33:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Hp4euxc0N7+pLfdNRtEDAHYOVPDOBrO2WVV+aCkqrtaxxsYbpVyk5zKuF9rqONdmMHkhjIjc7KeY5enQOJ/bN5g2g5bakFHVaJ7m0RFetdgsu0fMXnvLbeKeqF7XXY9pK+u8mV0s4ZAPO/fUrQZ3eEQzG2sJvTW8gPGuqjVo6Js= Received: by 10.54.129.2 with SMTP id b2mr833519wrd; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.147.13 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:33:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:33:58 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Well, that was exciting X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:34:00 - The basic idea is to heat the coolant by having an electrical heater inside the block, NOT by having a fire in the engine compartment. On 12/11/05, L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decided to plug in the block heater on my car (an '82 300D) tonight, which I had never done before. Strung the extension cord out to the car, plugged the block heater in, and was treated to a small, colorful electric fire emanating from the vicinity of the radiator. I can hardly wait until morning to see just exactly where the problem was, but even without seeing it I'm sure I'll be replacing some wiring --mf _ L. Mark Finch Indianapolis 1982 300D Turbodiesel ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] 1980 230t european wagon for sale
hello gents. i had planned on restoring this, but it has just been sitting and gathering rust it is a 1980 203t; a european wagon, with a 4 cylinder 4 speed. has 131k miles on it. body has some rust spots, definitely fixable. car runs and will drive, but is unsafe to drive due to fuel lines leaking. interior is good. i have a title to this car. see pics: _http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyMDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5N TQx.jpg_ (http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyMDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg) _http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyMTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5N TQx.jpg_ (http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyMTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg) _http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyMjZzNDEzZGZkMzF5N TQx.jpg_ (http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyMjZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg) _http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyMzZzNDEzZGZkMzF5N TQx.jpg_ (http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyMzZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg) _http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyNDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5N TQx.jpg_ (http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MzIyNDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg) make any offer! this car will be leaving my driveway by the end of this year, one way or the other i am located near Newark, DE. thanks. todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 410-441-0201 cell
Re: [MBZ] fuel additive
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 19:04:47 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you swore by GE OTR 8932Q? Not available in the midwest (no distributor), so I bought a case (4 gallons treats 4,000 gallons - for gas stations) direct from the factory at wholesale price - they even billed me for it - no money up front. Put it in a STA-BIL container and figured out a little chart (I think it's 1/4 oz per 2 gals - I forget, taped the chart to the bottle)) and use it for anti-gel. Is a good water DISPERSANT too along with all the other usual claims. I Googled for it but found nothing relevant. Where did you get it? OTR (now GE OTR) is available at many BP stations. OTR was the additive that BP used in its diesel fuel for many years before they purchased Amoco and turned the fuel blending and distribution over the Amoco. They may still use it (the label is still on SOME of the pumps) but as a stand-alone product it's now sold under the GE label (perhaps GE chemicals manufactures the additive package). It's pretty good, but I wouldn't make it a life's work to find it. Many other additives (such as Power Service) work fine and are MUCH easier to find. It SEQUESTERS water (each hydroxyl groups bonds with a water molecule) and when passed with the fuel into the combustion chambers, burns JUST fine. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] Arctic Q
Mitch, I am considering an inverter for the car to charge the scooter. Charger uses only abt 2 amps, though. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] '75 300D no fuel at injectors 1 or 5
Luther, There are several possibilities. The 1975 uses a cable from the passenger compartment to turn the pump on off. The cable is attached to a lever that is pushed foreward to turn the pump off pulled to the rear to turn the pump on. The lever may be situated in such a way that the pump is turned partially or completely off the fuel in lines 2 - 4 is just what's left in the system. The injection pump was empty when you tried to start the car and all pumps (there's one per cylinder) have not primed yet. The injection pump was empty when you tried to start the car and you did not fill the injection pump with the primer pump before trying to start the car. The primary and / or secondary fuel filter is plugged and you can't get enough fuel to the injection pump to start the car. Here's a good procedure for starting a 1975 300D that has not run in a while. 1 - Unscrew the hand primper pump and pump until you feel the resistance change. The change verifies that all air has purged from the injection pump. Screw the hand primer pump back into its seat. 2 - Verify that the shutoff lever on the pump moves twords the rear when you pull the start knob to the second (run) position. 3 - Connect a good battery charger to the battery - something that will source 30 - 50 amps. 4 - Pull the start knob to the third (glow) position and hold until the glowplug indicator in the dash glows red. 5 - Pull the knob to the fourth (start) position hold until the engine starts, but no longer then 15 seconds. The starter will overheat if you run it too long. 6- If the engins shows no sign of starting then verify that the glow plugs did warm up. If not then you have some electrical troublseshooting to do before you can start the car. 7- If the glow plugs do warm then repeat steps 4 5 until the car starts. You may have to repeat this cycle 10 or more times if the injection pump was empty. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:14 AM To: Luther Gulseth; Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] '75 300D no fuel at injectors 1 or 5 Changed the subject My work buddy came about a '75 300D that won't start. He broke the injector lines loose and tried to start it, and 1 and 5 are getting no fuel. What might cause this? Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '75 300D no fuel 1 or 5
Luther Gulseth wrote: My work buddy came about a '75 300D that won't start. He broke the injector lines loose and tried to start it, and 1 and 5 are getting no fuel. What might cause this? If the pistons on the #1 5 ports of the injection pump are stuck in the up position (rust, gum or varnish can cause this) then no fuel will be delivered. This can happen after a pump sits unused for a period of time with fuel in it. Can also happen when a pump is shipped or otherwise shake around a lot (without a lot of care to treat it with something to prevent any chance of fuel residue gumming. You can open the side of the pump and see if poking at them with a piece of WOOD (don't use anything harder than wood) gets them to move. You don't want to try to adjust ANYTHING inside! Maybe a shot of PB Blaster or Kroil or something similar MIGHT loosen a reluctant injector. Once it's working, a qt of conventional 10W-30 oil in the fuel tank might help insure things don't stick again. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Well, that was exciting
My order has been placed. The car did start without it at 13°F, though a tad reluctantly. Sounds like you need to replace the cord that plugs in the block heater and which you plugged into your extension cord. Call Rusty at Well, a good eyeball examination is usually wise before spending the money. It may be that you can patch up the existing cord, somebody could well have yanked hard on it and cut into the insulation on a sharpish edge of sheet metal. Cutting the cord there and splicing it back together properly could be all that's required. So long as the end that plugs into the engine is OK, the rest is just Hardware Store 101. That and an ohmmeter to verify that the heating element itself is not open or shorted. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1980 230t european wagon for sale
...body has some rust spots, definitely fixable. Wow, 'some' rust spots? That's the east-coast perspective for you. Probably be ours too in a few years, now that the fargging bastidges are salting the roads around here. I think the lowly Frankenheap had less rust than that, and it was a royal mess, and headed downhill from there fast. (Now it's heading downhill a bit slower.) Still looks like it would be a fun beater, especially if a diesel motor accidentally found its way into it. Sadly, too far away, too broke, too scared of the wife! -- Jim
[MBZ] Hamdan and the Amazing Technicolor 126
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Loren --
Yes, the SL is put away for the salt season. She is not happy about driving the lowly 240D. At 07:21 PM 12/11/2005, you wrote: Saw the daughter tonight at her place of employment. [I don't think she recognized me.] You have her driving a W123 and not the SL? -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hey Loren --
I feel her pain. On 12/12/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the SL is put away for the salt season. She is not happy about driving the lowly 240D. At 07:21 PM 12/11/2005, you wrote: Saw the daughter tonight at her place of employment. [I don't think she recognized me.] You have her driving a W123 and not the SL? -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] fuel additive
I posted a message with the # to call to buy it and a PDF with all the specs but it is being held by the moderator as it is too big (with PDF) to go through automatically. If Kaleb lets it through, all the info is there and is pretty easy to come by once you have their phone #...all in the e-mail. Kaleb! Let me e-mail go! Free my message! :-) Chris Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 19:04:47 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann wrote: I thought you swore by GE OTR 8932Q? Not available in the midwest (no distributor), so I bought a case (4 gallons treats 4,000 gallons - for gas stations) direct from the factory at wholesale price - they even billed me for it - no money up front. Put it in a STA-BIL container and figured out a little chart (I think it's 1/4 oz per 2 gals - I forget, taped the chart to the bottle)) and use it for anti-gel. Is a good water DISPERSANT too along with all the other usual claims. I Googled for it but found nothing relevant. Where did you get it? OTR (now GE OTR) is available at many BP stations. OTR was the additive that BP used in its diesel fuel for many years before they purchased Amoco and turned the fuel blending and distribution over the Amoco. They may still use it (the label is still on SOME of the pumps) but as a stand-alone product it's now sold under the GE label (perhaps GE chemicals manufactures the additive package). It's pretty good, but I wouldn't make it a life's work to find it. Many other additives (such as Power Service) work fine and are MUCH easier to find. It SEQUESTERS water (each hydroxyl groups bonds with a water molecule) and when passed with the fuel into the combustion chambers, burns JUST fine. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 17:21:35 2005 Received: from wnpgmb02-group-smtpout.mts.net ([142.161.130.102] helo=mx-mtaout02.mts.net) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ElrMk-0007R2-Sm for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:21:35 + Received: from wnpgmb02-c600c.mts.net ([172.17.170.22]) by mx-mtaout02.mts.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:21:31 -0600 Received: from wnpgmb09dc1-68-145.dynamic.mts.net (HELO one) ([142.161.68.145]) by wnpgmb02-c600c.mts.net with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 11:21:28 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AA== X-IronPort-AV: i=3.99,244,1131343200; d=scan'208; a=28675631:sNHT6434958012 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:26:12 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:21:35 - Well, you know it could be improved dramatically without much work. Pull the goofy wing antenna off of the trunk. Pull the MB emblem off of the side pillar. Put some normal wheels on it and the outside would not look too bad. Kinda cool to have your own limo. Enough room in the back seat to haul almost anything you want. Interior is another story. Really ugly
[MBZ] Trans fluid leak when cold starting
OK, the Benz now runs fairly nice with new glow plugs, new injector, new fuel filters. A block heater from DieselGiant is on its way for the colder winter days. But it seems another problem has developed. The Benz (1980 300CD, auto trans) piddles transmission fluid onto the driveway when it is started cold. This did not begin to happen until we had the cold days here, and it does not seem to persist once the car is warmed up. Is this common? How to fix? -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK:
Well boys and girls, yesterday I went to the Georgia Tax Commission's website and looked up the local (Fayette County) tag office location, and sent them the following email: I'm coming in with my daughter on Saturday (December 17) to purchase a 1988 Mercedes-Benz 300E from a resident of Peachtree City. On Sunday my daughter and I will be leaving to drive back to Tulsa. What do we need to do in order to buy the car properly and make sure that there are no glitches on our way back to Oklahoma? Here's what I'm thinking of and please feel free to add or modify this; Proof of insurance on the car we're purchasing Bill of Sale from seller (should include vehicle VIN, seller's name, address, and phone number) Title should be transferred, should this (or anything else) be notarized? If so, can it be done at a bank, or should it be done at the tag office ahead of Saturday? Do we need to put anything in the rear window, like a sign saying Vehicle in Transit or get any kind of a driveaway permit? Thanks very much for your help. I need this information pretty quickly, as we are coming in Saturday (leaving Tulsa this Friday night) so anything you can do to ease this process will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs (just west of Tulsa) OK 918-246-9543 (from the site at:http://www.dmvs.ga.gov/locate/tagoffices/Tagoffices.asp?county=112ty pe=cx=34y=16) Pretty well worded, don't you think? And, for all who have been keeping up with the thread on Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK here's the official word from a person, (George Wingo), employed by the State of Georgia, Department of Revenue, who works at the Fayette County Tag Office location: You have it figured out pretty well. In GA you can drive 30 days with a Bill of Sale and insurance before being required to register the vehicle. I cannot say about other states. You should insist on a TITLE along with the vehicle. That should be all you need. George Wingo So, from the horse's mouth. And, just called my insurance company, incredibly she said my rates will go DOWN ~$80 per year (but I don't know if that takes into account the two claims we've had recently). So, they'll mail (and fax) a proof of insurance card so I'll have it for the trip back (told them I'd be picking up the car on the 17th). The tag agency here in OK just needs the title, proof of insurance, the vehicle (so they can check the VIN) and, erm, money (for the new tags). On the vehicle that I'm selling to Kaleb, when he picks it up on Wednesday morning, all we'll have to do is transfer the title, he keeps the plate from that one. So, everything's coming together. Oh, I had ordered a right hand side headlight cover assembly for Star, and of course the way things turned out, I didn't need it. Randy (EPS) Steele told me that I could return it, no restocking charge, so I sent that back to him today. If anyone needs one of those, it should be back in stock by Friday. Best regards to all Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid leak when cold starting
Lee Einer wrote: OK, the Benz now runs fairly nice with new glow plugs, new injector, new fuel filters. A block heater from DieselGiant is on its way for the colder winter days. But it seems another problem has developed. The Benz (1980 300CD, auto trans) piddles transmission fluid onto the driveway when it is started cold. This did not begin to happen until we had the cold days here, and it does not seem to persist once the car is warmed up. Is this common? How to fix? Are you SURE the transmission isn't overfilled (can only be checked after driving for 15-20 minutes - will read low to VERY low if checked cold - if filled to even the low mark when cold, it will be WAY overfilled) and the vent (on top) isn't plugged? On some transmissions the connection between the dipstick tube and the pan leaks. This CAN be resealed (but I've never tried it). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] ArcticQ - US rendezvous point
In principle, it would be nice to meet up as soon as possible. At the same time, we want to keep backtracking to a minimum. Bob will be heading straight north...don't know if anyone west of Bob plans on coming. I've got two ideas: 1. Sumas, WA (north of Seattle): Here is the link for the route from Sumas to Deadhorse: http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/directions/dirGetDirections.jsp?BV_SessionID=1556161185.1134415227BV_EngineID=addghfdejljcefecggfdffhdgif.0cmty=0 2. Sweet Grass, MT: this would have Easterners bypassing the Rockies entirely and hwy 15 is a straight shot for Bob. According to my map, these first roads through Canada are not as scenic as the above route: http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/directions/dirGetDirections.jsp?BV_SessionID=1556161185.1134415227BV_EngineID=addghfdejljcefecggfdffhdgif.0cmty=0 Both of these towns are right on the border. Both work fine. Perhaps there are other ideas of where we might rendezvous sooner in the US. Of course, if two cars are coming from, say, Missouri, those two would caravan together to the main rendezvous point, etc. If there are Canadians wanting to come, we need a Canada rendezvous point too. Thoughts, suggestions, feedback, better ideas? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 19:46:15 2005 Received: from wnpgmb02-group-smtpout.mts.net ([142.161.130.102] helo=mx-mtaout01.mts.net) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Eltcl-0005EI-1Y for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:46:15 + Received: from wnpgmb02-c600c.mts.net ([172.17.170.22]) by mx-mtaout01.mts.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:46:11 -0600 Received: from wnpgmb09dc1-68-145.dynamic.mts.net (HELO one) ([142.161.68.145]) by wnpgmb02-c600c.mts.net with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 13:46:07 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AA== X-IronPort-AV: i=3.99,244,1131343200; d=scan'208; a=28735975:sNHT73842412 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:50:52 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid leak when cold starting X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:46:15 - Can you tell where it is leaking from on the tranny? A cold rubber seal may leak until it warms up and softens to the point where it fits a bit better. Have a look at the tailshaft seal for starters. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:16 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid leak when cold starting Lee Einer wrote: OK, the Benz now runs fairly nice with new glow plugs, new injector, new fuel filters. A block heater from DieselGiant is on its way for the colder winter days. But it seems another problem has developed. The Benz (1980 300CD, auto trans) piddles transmission fluid onto the driveway when it is started cold. This did not begin to happen until we had the cold days here, and it does not seem to persist once the car is warmed up. Is this common? How to fix? Are you SURE the transmission isn't overfilled (can only be checked after driving for 15-20 minutes - will read low to VERY low if checked cold - if filled to even the low mark when cold, it will be WAY overfilled) and the vent (on top) isn't plugged? On some transmissions the connection between the dipstick tube and the pan leaks. This CAN be
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK:
Hey Tom You know how to do it right, good job. 20 x 20 hind sight, I was legal and didn't know it. Have a good round trip. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK: Well boys and girls, yesterday I went to the Georgia Tax Commission's website and looked up the local (Fayette County) tag office location, and sent them the following email: I'm coming in with my daughter on Saturday (December 17) to purchase a 1988 Mercedes-Benz 300E from a resident of Peachtree City. On Sunday my daughter and I will be leaving to drive back to Tulsa. What do we need to do in order to buy the car properly and make sure that there are no glitches on our way back to Oklahoma? Here's what I'm thinking of and please feel free to add or modify this; Proof of insurance on the car we're purchasing Bill of Sale from seller (should include vehicle VIN, seller's name, address, and phone number) Title should be transferred, should this (or anything else) be notarized? If so, can it be done at a bank, or should it be done at the tag office ahead of Saturday? Do we need to put anything in the rear window, like a sign saying Vehicle in Transit or get any kind of a driveaway permit? Thanks very much for your help. I need this information pretty quickly, as we are coming in Saturday (leaving Tulsa this Friday night) so anything you can do to ease this process will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs (just west of Tulsa) OK 918-246-9543 (from the site at:http://www.dmvs.ga.gov/locate/tagoffices/Tagoffices.asp?county=112ty pe=cx=34y=16) Pretty well worded, don't you think? And, for all who have been keeping up with the thread on Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK here's the official word from a person, (George Wingo), employed by the State of Georgia, Department of Revenue, who works at the Fayette County Tag Office location: You have it figured out pretty well. In GA you can drive 30 days with a Bill of Sale and insurance before being required to register the vehicle. I cannot say about other states. You should insist on a TITLE along with the vehicle. That should be all you need. George Wingo So, from the horse's mouth. And, just called my insurance company, incredibly she said my rates will go DOWN ~$80 per year (but I don't know if that takes into account the two claims we've had recently). So, they'll mail (and fax) a proof of insurance card so I'll have it for the trip back (told them I'd be picking up the car on the 17th). The tag agency here in OK just needs the title, proof of insurance, the vehicle (so they can check the VIN) and, erm, money (for the new tags). On the vehicle that I'm selling to Kaleb, when he picks it up on Wednesday morning, all we'll have to do is transfer the title, he keeps the plate from that one. So, everything's coming together. Oh, I had ordered a right hand side headlight cover assembly for Star, and of course the way things turned out, I didn't need it. Randy (EPS) Steele told me that I could return it, no restocking charge, so I sent that back to him today. If anyone needs one of those, it should be back in stock by Friday. Best regards to all Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK
[MBZ] Block heater pyrotechnics
Well, a good eyeball examination is usually wise before spending the money. It may be that you can patch up the existing cord, somebody could well have yanked hard on it and cut into the insulation on a sharpish edge of sheet metal. Cutting the cord there and splicing it back together properly could be all that's required. So long as the end that plugs into the engine is OK, the rest is just Hardware Store 101. That and an ohmmeter to verify that the heating element itself is not open or shorted Boy oh boy, is this bum advice. The cost of that cord is inconsequential. From the description it's clear that the insulation has worn through after all those years and patching it together to save pennies is nuts. Suppose you plugged it in and suddenly you have 120V AC standing on the car's chassis, just waiting for someone to touch it. Can you spell electrocution? RLE
Re: [MBZ] Arctic Q
wilton strickland wrote: Mitch, I am considering an inverter for the car to charge the scooter. Charger uses only abt 2 amps, though. If your car has a 70 or 80 amp alternator, it could probably handle that with a 300W inverter. With the old 45 amp alt, I'd only do it on long freeway trips. Or, if the scooter battery is 12v lead acid, you could skip the inverter/charger and hook the scooter battery to the car, maybe with a trailer connector in the trunk.
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:44 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 051212 2.436 2.458 2.598 2.577 2.393 2.409 2.429 2.401 2.500 2.465 051205 2.425 2.428 2.591 2.569 2.354 2.390 2.411 2.471 2.538 2.486 051128 2.479 2.467 2.619 2.604 2.394 2.442 2.456 2.591 2.617 2.559 051121 2.513 2.491 2.652 2.615 2.423 2.477 2.491 2.654 2.652 2.599 051114 2.602 2.565 2.699 2.689 2.500 2.575 2.585 2.766 2.738 2.717 051107 2.698 2.657 2.744 2.755 2.608 2.671 2.679 2.907 2.821 2.797 051031 2.876 2.784 2.834 2.848 2.753 2.907 2.846 3.079 2.951 2.936 051024 3.157 3.051 2.873 2.940 3.115 3.235 3.146 3.232 3.142 3.152 051017 3.148 3.116 2.913 2.966 3.199 3.144 3.177 3.178 3.178 3.210 051010 3.150 3.160 2.947 2.990 3.252 3.123 3.182 3.143 3.167 3.240 051003 3.144 3.198 3.012 3.040 3.283 3.083 3.185 3.079 3.174 3.262 050926 2.798 2.808 2.859 2.875 2.775 2.739 2.756 2.938 2.978 3.031 050919 2.732 2.749 2.804 2.846 2.702 2.648 2.677 2.902 2.985 3.060 050912 2.847 2.849 2.920 2.935 2.806 2.782 2.797 2.957 3.093 3.158 050905 2.898 2.900 2.977 2.993 2.853 2.843 2.833 2.976 3.149 3.250 050829 2.590 2.564 2.649 2.654 2.518 2.532 2.508 2.726 2.920 3.045 050822 2.588 2.564 2.642 2.654 2.519 2.540 2.512 2.679 2.897 3.037 050815 2.567 2.544 2.618 2.633 2.499 2.524 2.481 2.615 2.891 3.042 050808 2.407 2.386 2.492 2.484 2.334 2.336 2.323 2.486 2.801 2.943 050801 2.348 2.356 2.488 2.465 2.297 2.292 2.279 2.421 2.594 2.657 050725 2.342 2.365 2.508 2.481 2.303 2.292 2.278 2.405 2.530 2.578 050718 2.392 2.412 2.535 2.521 2.354 2.361 2.331 2.430 2.530 2.589 050711 2.408 2.427 2.533 2.524 2.377 2.384 2.355 2.408 2.526 2.589 050704 2.348 2.370 2.485 2.475 2.315 2.328 2.290 2.328 2.467 2.554 050627 2.336 2.368 2.476 2.461 2.318 2.314 2.288 2.288 2.433 2.522 050620 2.313 2.348 2.442 2.451 2.296 2.294 2.274 2.236 2.391 2.476 050613 2.276 2.308 2.399 2.399 2.261 2.248 2.247 2.210 2.364 2.457 050606 2.234 2.263 2.353 2.343 2.221 2.198 2.213 2.191 2.339 2.421 050530 2.160 2.188 2.320 2.284 2.134 2.111 2.117 2.179 2.317 2.367 050523 2.156 2.181 2.338 2.292 2.119 2.097 2.112 2.207 2.339 2.373 050516 2.189 2.204 2.380 2.315 2.141 2.129 2.141 2.267 2.397 2.432 050509 2.227 2.237 2.389 2.342 2.179 2.157 2.173 2.318 2.481 2.518 050502 2.262 2.264 2.410 2.366 2.207 2.194 2.209 2.355 2.530 2.561 050425 2.289 2.287 2.413 2.382 2.234 2.230 2.231 2.371 2.549 2.570 050418 2.259 2.260 2.418 2.373 2.197 2.194 2.180 2.379 2.554 2.582 050411 2.316 2.306 2.434 2.423 2.244 2.263 2.251 2.399 2.585 2.625 050404 2.303 2.299 2.427 2.412 2.238 2.258 2.240 2.361 2.541 2.581 050328 2.249 2.248 2.374 2.360 2.189 2.203 2.182 2.326 2.483 2.512 050321 2.244 2.245 2.355 2.358 2.186 2.196 2.180 2.313 2.471 2.482 050314 2.194 2.197 2.320 2.309 2.137 2.140 2.130 2.260 2.442 2.418 050307 2.168 2.163 2.288 2.280 2.102 2.113 2.100 2.229 2.450 2.408 050228 2.118 2.117 2.241 2.233 2.056 2.064 2.035 2.174 2.412 2.376 050221 2.020 2.027 2.198
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid leak when cold starting
Marshall Booth wrote: Are you SURE the transmission isn't overfilled (can only be checked after driving for 15-20 minutes - will read low to VERY low if checked cold - if filled to even the low mark when cold, it will be WAY overfilled) and the vent (on top) isn't plugged? On some transmissions the connection between the dipstick tube and the pan leaks. This CAN be resealed (but I've never tried it). Marshall This site illustrates where the fluid level should be: http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/w123CD2/Program/Maintenance/MY81/2710.pdf Its 30 mm below the low mark for a 722.1 series transmission when it's cold (20-30 deg. C.) vs the high mark when it's at operating temp (80 deg. C.). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
2.355 2.358 2.186 2.196 2.180 2.313 2.471 2.482 050314 2.194 2.197 2.320 2.309 2.137 2.140 2.130 2.260 2.442 2.418 050307 2.168 2.163 2.288 2.280 2.102 2.113 2.100 2.229 2.450 2.408 050228 2.118 2.117 2.241 2.233 2.056 2.064 2.035 2.174 2.412 2.376 050221 2.020 2.027 2.198 2.154 1.957 1.953 1.943 2.087 2.321 2.259 050214 1.986 2.013 2.197 2.150 1.938 1.935 1.915 2.011 2.190 2.196 050207 1.983 2.025 2.222 2.159 1.950 1.938 1.938 1.967 2.113 2.144 050131 1.992 2.048 2.225 2.172 1.979 1.954 1.940 1.946 2.085 2.126 050124 1.959 2.014 2.180 2.140 1.945 1.928 1.919 1.884 2.027 2.068 050117 1.952 2.009 2.168 2.127 1.944 1.928 1.908 1.877 2.001 2.023 050110 1.934 1.999 2.163 2.133 1.926 1.911 1.876 1.877 1.973 2.014 050103 1.957 2.025 2.180 2.163 1.952 1.929 1.887 1.934 2.011 2.063 041227 1.987 2.045 2.196 2.161 1.982 1.959 1.928 1.961 2.040 2.097 041220 1.984 2.052 2.199 2.171 1.988 1.944 1.922 1.988 2.047 2.087 041213 1.997 2.063 2.206 2.184 1.998 1.953 1.910 2.049 2.097 2.138 Need Help? phone: 202-586-8800 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Energy Information Administration, EI 30 1000 Independence Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20585 -- To Unsubscribe - You are currently subscribed to weekdfprice as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, forward this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not use the reply button to unsubscribe. -- To Change E-mail Address 1. Unsubscribe your current e-mail address as described above. 2. From your NEW e-mail address, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PLEASE NOTE: This e-mail was automatically generated. Do not send e-mail to EIA_Listserv; it is used only by our automated system and is not monitored for responses. You can send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Today's Diesel Prices.txt Url: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/ 20051212/7c171ed1/TodaysDieselPrices.txt ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
2.373 2.197 2.194 2.180 2.379 2.554 2.582 050411 2.316 2.306 2.434 2.423 2.244 2.263 2.251 2.399 2.585 2.625 050404 2.303 2.299 2.427 2.412 2.238 2.258 2.240 2.361 2.541 2.581 050328 2.249 2.248 2.374 2.360 2.189 2.203 2.182 2.326 2.483 2.512 050321 2.244 2.245 2.355 2.358 2.186 2.196 2.180 2.313 2.471 2.482 050314 2.194 2.197 2.320 2.309 2.137 2.140 2.130 2.260 2.442 2.418 050307 2.168 2.163 2.288 2.280 2.102 2.113 2.100 2.229 2.450 2.408 050228 2.118 2.117 2.241 2.233 2.056 2.064 2.035 2.174 2.412 2.376 050221 2.020 2.027 2.198 2.154 1.957 1.953 1.943 2.087 2.321 2.259 050214 1.986 2.013 2.197 2.150 1.938 1.935 1.915 2.011 2.190 2.196 050207 1.983 2.025 2.222 2.159 1.950 1.938 1.938 1.967 2.113 2.144 050131 1.992 2.048 2.225 2.172 1.979 1.954 1.940 1.946 2.085 2.126 050124 1.959 2.014 2.180 2.140 1.945 1.928 1.919 1.884 2.027 2.068 050117 1.952 2.009 2.168 2.127 1.944 1.928 1.908 1.877 2.001 2.023 050110 1.934 1.999 2.163 2.133 1.926 1.911 1.876 1.877 1.973 2.014 050103 1.957 2.025 2.180 2.163 1.952 1.929 1.887 1.934 2.011 2.063 041227 1.987 2.045 2.196 2.161 1.982 1.959 1.928 1.961 2.040 2.097 041220 1.984 2.052 2.199 2.171 1.988 1.944 1.922 1.988 2.047 2.087 041213 1.997 2.063 2.206 2.184 1.998 1.953 1.910 2.049 2.097 2.138 Need Help? phone: 202-586-8800 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Energy Information Administration, EI 30 1000 Independence Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20585 -- To Unsubscribe - You are currently subscribed to weekdfprice as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, forward this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not use the reply button to unsubscribe. -- To Change E-mail Address 1. Unsubscribe your current e-mail address as described above. 2. From your NEW e-mail address, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PLEASE NOTE: This e-mail was automatically generated. Do not send e-mail to EIA_Listserv; it is used only by our automated system and is not monitored for responses. You can send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Today's Diesel Prices.txt Url: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/ 20051212/7c171ed1/TodaysDieselPrices.txt ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Block heater pyrotechnics
Boy oh boy, is this bum advice. The cost of that cord is inconsequential. The cost is not huge, no. (Though it is a significant percentage of the cost of that car.) The _point_ of the advice, however, is not inconsequential. Before just throwing money at a problem, it is wise to actually diagnose the condition. For example, had I bought a new cord for the Chicken Wagon's very strange (and multiplex) block heater system it would have been a total waste of money. In fact, the block heater element was burnt out, so a new cord would be useless even though the old cord was quite obviously a total mess. The new element itself came with a new cord. From the description it's clear that the insulation has worn through after all those years and patching it together to save pennies is nuts. Suppose you plugged it in and suddenly you have 120V AC standing on the car's chassis, just waiting for someone to touch it. Can you spell electrocution? No supposition about it. If my advice is followed, there is absolutely no risk whatsoever, because you've totally examined the situation and have not done anything that is unsafe. Nor have you left unexamined any part of the system that _could_ be unsafe. If you do not feel qualified to repair simple wiring, you should not try to repair simple wiring. That's a no-brainer. But if you _are_, why not save the money for something more necessary? Advice traded here is among competent adults who are assumed capable of evaluating their own abilities and acting accordingly. Not children. Do you think that I was crazy to have replaced the three stranded 10ga wires in my home furnace that had oxidized, overheated, and burned out. Total cost: nil, I had a roll of suitable wire. Should I have ordered a new furnace instead? How do I know that it won't explode instantly when it's turned on, the old furnace at least has proven itself to be safe and reliable over 30 years. Humph. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
I hear you, but I'm suspicious. If you look back through the list, prices here have been consistently $0.20 to $0.30 above the average. So who's getting this diesel fuel for $0.20 to $0.30 below the average? Ron On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: These prices are from the Department of Energy and they are regional averages. I see the same variations that you see in North Alabama, with $0.30 or greater differences common from one city to another. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Dwelle Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 2:47 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices Man, I don't know where they get those prices. Around here (Michigan), they're still running $0.30/gallon higher than the table shows. Ron Dwelle On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heater pyrotechnics
My experience here in the north (at least compared to most of you folks) is that the cord usually fails in one of two places. 1. The end with the plug where you plug it into the extension cord because it is handled the most and hangs out of the car. Replacing the plug may be an option but often the wire is corroded back a way and you don't have a lot of cord to permit you to shorten it. I did use a chunk of cord and reconnect under the hood on a 97 Mercury Sable that we had as a stop gap measure until we could get a replacement cord. 2. The other end where it plugs into the socket on the block heater at the engine. I don't know whether it is the heat or not but I suspect that to be the cause. Often the rubber plug will deteriorate to the point where that end shorts out. It ususally (at least in my experience) does not harm the block heater and a new cord will correct the problem. Generally, one is better off to get a cord at the dealer as it is usually longer than those offered in the afermarket. A long cord is good as it allows one to tie it back out of the way and snake it through to the grill and out by the bumper somewhere so that the hood need not be opened to use it. Remember to tuck it back in under the hood before going through the car wash. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Block heater pyrotechnics Well, a good eyeball examination is usually wise before spending the money. It may be that you can patch up the existing cord, somebody could well have yanked hard on it and cut into the insulation on a sharpish edge of sheet metal. Cutting the cord there and splicing it back together properly could be all that's required. So long as the end that plugs into the engine is OK, the rest is just Hardware Store 101. That and an ohmmeter to verify that the heating element itself is not open or shorted Boy oh boy, is this bum advice. The cost of that cord is inconsequential. From the description it's clear that the insulation has worn through after all those years and patching it together to save pennies is nuts. Suppose you plugged it in and suddenly you have 120V AC standing on the car's chassis, just waiting for someone to touch it. Can you spell electrocution? RLE ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Ron, Who's average? Your local average? These numbers are published by the Government and they cover huge regions. Up until the huge increase, I could always get diesel $0.20 cheaper along the I-20 corridor than in Huntsville . Now diesel is running $0.30 cheaper in Huntsville than along the I-20 corridor. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Dwelle Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:18 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices I hear you, but I'm suspicious. If you look back through the list, prices here have been consistently $0.20 to $0.30 above the average. So who's getting this diesel fuel for $0.20 to $0.30 below the average? Ron On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: These prices are from the Department of Energy and they are regional averages. I see the same variations that you see in North Alabama, with $0.30 or greater differences common from one city to another. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Dwelle Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 2:47 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices Man, I don't know where they get those prices. Around here (Michigan), they're still running $0.30/gallon higher than the table shows. Ron Dwelle On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Block heater pyrotechnics
At 03:05 PM 12/12/2005, Jim C and then RLE wrote: Well, a good eyeball examination is usually wise before spending the money. It may be that you can patch up the existing cord, somebody could well have yanked hard on it and cut into the insulation on a sharpish edge of sheet metal. Cutting the cord there and splicing it back together properly could be all that's required. So long as the end that plugs into the engine is OK, the rest is just Hardware Store 101. That and an ohmmeter to verify that the heating element itself is not open or shorted Boy oh boy, is this bum advice. The cost of that cord is inconsequential. From the description it's clear that the insulation has worn through after all those years and patching it together to save pennies is nuts. Suppose you plugged it in and suddenly you have 120V AC standing on the car's chassis, just waiting for someone to touch it. Can you spell electrocution? Electrocution, BS. Fixing a break in a 120V AC cord is about as far from rocket science as it gets. And it is easy to test. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Real robots roam.
Re: [MBZ] Weather
LOL! On 12/9/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, we have a Bush for president who causes global cooling, or state-wide cooling, or is it warming in Canada relative to Arkansas and other places. I'm so confused I can't remember exactly which it is, but I do know it is his fault because he didn't sign that treaty, and that got the French people mad at us and they are sending that Evian flu thing around. --R Jeff Zedic wrote: I stil can't believe that you guys in Arkansas are colder than us! Changing weather patterns or what? Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 350 sdl a/c clutch r/r
Has anyone removed and replaced the a/c clutch? If so, do any of the MB procedures apply (CD).? If not any good pitfalls? Thanks, Constantine
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
I have trouble visualizing the banjo part... On 12/11/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A banjo bolt is a hollow bolt that has a banjo shaped fitting under it with a hose of some type sticking out at a right angle. Hard to miss. Size depends on application -- the one for the turbo will be a 15 or 17, I'd guess. The ones on the IP are 17s if I remember correctly, and you must be careful, the inlet and outlet bolts are NOT the same -- the outlet has a very small hole in it and acts to pressurize the IP. If you swap them, the engine won't run. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl a/c clutch r/r
Some ND compressors need a pin wrench to counterhold the clutch so you can remove the center nut, but others have no provision for the pin wrench. In the latter case you can use channel-lock pliers. You'll need the MB pulling tool that screws into the center of the clutch, but some folks have had success prying it out slowly. I wouldn't try that though. -Aaron 1987 300D 1987 300TD On 12/12/05, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone removed and replaced the a/c clutch? If so, do any of the MB procedures apply (CD).? If not any good pitfalls? Thanks, Constantine ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
http://www.prelube.com/powrlube500_drainhose.html Chris andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have trouble visualizing the banjo part... On 12/11/05, Peter Frederick wrote: A banjo bolt is a hollow bolt that has a banjo shaped fitting under it with a hose of some type sticking out at a right angle. Hard to miss. Size depends on application -- the one for the turbo will be a 15 or 17, I'd guess. The ones on the IP are 17s if I remember correctly, and you must be careful, the inlet and outlet bolts are NOT the same -- the outlet has a very small hole in it and acts to pressurize the IP. If you swap them, the engine won't run. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 22:32:23 2005 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ElwDX-00064Z-TE for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:32:23 + Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[24.18.9.231]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id 20051212223219014008ihaee; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:32:19 + Received: from [209.182.101.246] (helo=[172.18.250.131]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1ElwDQ-00035i-R0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:32:18 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:33:13 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -5.9 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system ringbill.gull.us, has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: R A Bennell wrote: I'd gamble on it at the price it is likely to go for. I sort of like it. The comment that it needs suspension work worries me a little, though. Think about what all that extra weight might have done to the suspension. [...] Content analysis details: (-5.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:32:24 - R A Bennell wrote: I'd gamble on it at the price it is likely to go for. I sort of like it. The comment that it needs suspension work worries me a little, though. Think about what all that extra weight might have done to the suspension.
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
Well, you know, I never said it would be cheap to fix or to own. I just said one could likely acquire it cheaply and it is sort of unique. One should look classy riding around in a Benz. One should look even classier in a Benz Limo. Of course, one would need a driver so that one could sit in the back and look down one's nose at poor folks passing by in their Toyotas. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 2:33 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap R A Bennell wrote: I'd gamble on it at the price it is likely to go for. I sort of like it. The comment that it needs suspension work worries me a little, though. Think about what all that extra weight might have done to the suspension. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
Thanks for the photo. I am familiar with that bolt but still don't see a bleepin' banjo. Then again, I have a pallid sense of imagination. On 12/12/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.prelube.com/powrlube500_drainhose.html Chris andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have trouble visualizing the banjo part... On 12/11/05, Peter Frederick wrote: A banjo bolt is a hollow bolt that has a banjo shaped fitting under it with a hose of some type sticking out at a right angle. Hard to miss. Size depends on application -- the one for the turbo will be a 15 or 17, I'd guess. The ones on the IP are 17s if I remember correctly, and you must be careful, the inlet and outlet bolts are NOT the same -- the outlet has a very small hole in it and acts to pressurize the IP. If you swap them, the engine won't run. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
andrew strasfogel wrote: Thanks for the photo. I am familiar with that bolt but still don't see a bleepin' banjo. Then again, I have a pallid sense of imagination. The thing the bolt goes in is called a banjo fitting. The part that goes around the bolt is the body of the banjo, the part that goes in the hose is the neck of the banjo. The bolt just looks like a hollow bolt with crossdrilled holes in it.
[MBZ] Arctic Q
Scooter bat is 24v DC (2 12v lead/acid in series); charger input is 120v AC, 1.2 amp; output is 29.5v DC, 1.5 amp. 'Considering 300 watt inverter. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
I don't either, to be honest. I thought I knew what a banjo bolt was, until the emphasis on the banjo part...so I googled an image to be sure. It is what I thought, but I too fail to get the banjo part...maybe need to google an image of a banjo and look at it for a long time till I see the light... :-) Chris andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the photo. I am familiar with that bolt but still don't see a bleepin' banjo. Then again, I have a pallid sense of imagination. On 12/12/05, Christopher McCann wrote: http://www.prelube.com/powrlube500_drainhose.html Chris andrew strasfogel wrote: I have trouble visualizing the banjo part... On 12/11/05, Peter Frederick wrote: A banjo bolt is a hollow bolt that has a banjo shaped fitting under it with a hose of some type sticking out at a right angle. Hard to miss. Size depends on application -- the one for the turbo will be a 15 or 17, I'd guess. The ones on the IP are 17s if I remember correctly, and you must be careful, the inlet and outlet bolts are NOT the same -- the outlet has a very small hole in it and acts to pressurize the IP. If you swap them, the engine won't run. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 22:58:25 2005 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Elwcj-0008QM-8X for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:25 + Received: from dogear.com ([206.63.94.252]) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBCMwYZY002722 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:58:34 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:58:22 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:58:34 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Arctic Q X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:25 - Scooter bat is 24v DC (2 12v lead/acid in series); charger input is 120v
Re: [MBZ] Arctic Q
I've seen, I think, 120V converters that you plug into the lighter...is that possible? I know NOTHING about electricity except + = positive and - = negative. Chris wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scooter bat is 24v DC (2 12v lead/acid in series); charger input is 120v AC, 1.2 amp; output is 29.5v DC, 1.5 amp. 'Considering 300 watt inverter. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 23:17:03 2005 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([17.250.248.88]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Elwul-0001ns-3G for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:17:03 + Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id jBCNH1Pc011691 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ip68-2-210-120.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.210.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id jBCNGxDO023078; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:17:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:16:58 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:17:03 - My opinion is that averages don't mean JACK.. If your stock is going up or down, it doesn't matter what the averages say. Same goes for diesel... What it costs in your neighborhood/local station is all that counts. Guess I've turned into an OF... aka curmudgeon! Take care and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:25 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: Ron, Who's average? Your local average? These numbers are published by the Government and they cover huge regions.
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
A lug nut does not look like a lug, but it goes on a lug. Apply this to banjo. On 12/12/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the photo. I am familiar with that bolt but still don't see a bleepin' banjo. Then again, I have a pallid sense of imagination. On 12/12/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.prelube.com/powrlube500_drainhose.html Chris andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have trouble visualizing the banjo part... On 12/11/05, Peter Frederick wrote: A banjo bolt is a hollow bolt that has a banjo shaped fitting under it with a hose of some type sticking out at a right angle. Hard to miss. Size depends on application -- the one for the turbo will be a 15 or 17, I'd guess. The ones on the IP are 17s if I remember correctly, and you must be careful, the inlet and outlet bolts are NOT the same -- the outlet has a very small hole in it and acts to pressurize the IP. If you swap them, the engine won't run. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] '75 300D no fuel 1 or 5
The 617 engine never came with a manual shut off pump -- they are all vacuum shutoffs. Pull the vac line on the canister at the rear of the pump to verify it isn't holding vac, as it won't start that way. Unlikely, but hey. You can also remove the top cover on the IP governor and verify that the servo isn't stuck in the off position -- four screws and it just lifts off. Don't poke about in there, you can upset the calibration, not pretty. The servo hook should pull the internal linkage back quite a bit with vac applied, and return under spring pressure when the vac is released. You can also verifty that the rack moves with the throttle linkage -- if not, you will need to run some detergent through the pump (next paragraph) and work the linkage until the rack frees up. It requires full fuel delivery, usually, to start a cold engine, so if the rack is stuck at idle, it will never fire up. If the car has been sitting any length of time, replace the fuel filters and fill the filter housing with RedLine or Diesel Purge or something similar, then pull the lines and pressure valve holders off of #1 and #5 positions on the pump. DO NOT move the ears or remove the nuts that hold them down, else the pump must be adjusted on a test bench. You will have to be careful to find and keep the small spring and pressure valve inside each holder. Don't drop them, dirt here is very bad news Pump the hand pump (should be up by the fuel filter) and verify that fuel flows out of the holes as you rotate the engine around. LIkely they are air locked from fuel leakdown, and once you get pressurized fuel in them, all will be well. Watch for a leaking fuel filter to IP line (it can be replaced with normal fuel line if cracked). No pressure inside the pump will result in now fuel injected. Once you get fuel flow, re-install the pressure valves and springs (the stem goes up with the spring on top) and torque them down -- 25 ft/lbs twice, then 30 ft/lbs) and it should start. Make sure the glow plugs are operating (the resistor wire should get red hot) -- no glow plugs and it will NOT start, ever. It should at least kick hard on three cylinders, although I don't think it will start on only three. Peter
Re: [MBZ] '75 300D no fuel 1 or 5
Oh, also I forgot the most obvious and probably the actual problem (silly me!). Replace the fuel lines between the steel pipe and the suction side of the lift pump (on the side of the IP). These die of old age, and leak under the fabric cover. You don't have the screw it down to seal type hand pump, so that won't be a problem, but either being bad allows air to get sucked in instead of fuel sucked up from the tank, and air in the IP prevents starting. I would also blow some compressed air VERY GENTLY down the line to make sure the tank screen isn't plugged. Expect a clogged screen, bad hoses, and algae clogging filters for awhile, this is very typical of a diesel that age. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl a/c clutch r/r
You will need a pair of snap ring plier to remove a couple snap rings in order to remove the clutch bearing. The clutch plate will pop right off, no tool required (you do need the tools to get the seal out). Pulley presses onto the clutch, but I'm assuming you will get a new one. Peter
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
You do know what a banjo is don't you? Round flat thing with a tight drumhead and a neck with strings? The banjo fitting is a round device with a large hole in the center and a fitting on the side -- looks like a banjo (or a lolipop with a hole in it). The hose for whatever goes on the side, the bolt is hollow with a hole drilled at a right angle into the hollow. Take two aluminum or copper washers to seal. Peter
Re: [MBZ] ArcticQ - US rendezvous point
Christopher worried: At the same time, we want to keep backtracking to a minimum. Bob will be heading straight north...don't know if anyone west of Bob plans on coming. I really don't mind driving over to Okie-Q first as a starting point. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] ArcticQ - US rendezvous point In principle, it would be nice to meet up as soon as possible. I've got two ideas: 1. Sumas, WA (north of Seattle): Here is the link for the route from Sumas to Deadhorse: http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/directions/dirGetDirections.jsp?BV_SessionID=1556161185.1134415227BV_EngineID=addghfdejljcefecggfdffhdgif.0cmty=0 2. Sweet Grass, MT: this would have Easterners bypassing the Rockies entirely and hwy 15 is a straight shot for Bob. According to my map, these first roads through Canada are not as scenic as the above route: http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/directions/dirGetDirections.jsp?BV_SessionID=1556161185.1134415227BV_EngineID=addghfdejljcefecggfdffhdgif.0cmty=0 Both of these towns are right on the border. Both work fine. Perhaps there are other ideas of where we might rendezvous sooner in the US. Of course, if two cars are coming from, say, Missouri, those two would caravan together to the main rendezvous point, etc. If there are Canadians wanting to come, we need a Canada rendezvous point too. Thoughts, suggestions, feedback, better ideas? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Tom wondered: Who's average? Your local average? These numbers are published by the Government and they cover huge regions. Diesel is running from $2.559 to $2.319. It was $2.449 or so in CAL this weekend. Bio is stuck at $2.869 here. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] Arctic Q
Christopher McCann wrote: I've seen, I think, 120V converters that you plug into the lighter...is that possible? For 1.2A at 120VAc it's possible, you'd probably need 14g wiring and a 20A fuse for the lighter socket. (or wire up a heavy duty power outlet w 20A fuse)
Re: [MBZ] picturing a banjo bolt
I much prefer the name lollipop bolt. I think I'll use that from now on and try to get it established. ;) On 12/12/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You do know what a banjo is don't you? Round flat thing with a tight drumhead and a neck with strings? The banjo fitting is a round device with a large hole in the center and a fitting on the side -- looks like a banjo (or a lolipop with a hole in it). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
[MBZ] Fwd: Product Information on OTR 8932Q
Yeah, it's VERY hard to find online...had to make a few phone calls. Order= from this lady at GE. Right now, I think you can only buy 1 case at a tim= e (treats 4,000 gallons). Very cheap, though. I would be MORE than happy t= o sell one or two of my gallons (at cost) as long as you pay shipping. It = will take FOREVER to go through 4 gallons. = Info sheet attached. = Chrisotpher Foster, Kelley A (GE Infrastructure) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subje= ct: Product Information on OTR 8932Q Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:25:23 -0500 From: Foster, Kelley A \(GE Infrastructure\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was a pleasure to talk with you concerning our performan= ce additives. The below information outlines the product benefits. If = you should have further questions, please contact me @ 877-227-3743 or ema= il [EMAIL PROTECTED] = eGE Infrastructure = Kelley Foster = Sales Support Specialist = * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Direct - (281) 681-5294 (Dial Comm - *353-5294 = 4 Fax - (281) 363-7775 = = = Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotk=E4ppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf = -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Pr=FCfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger = - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping = -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OTR 8932Q.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 68586 bytes Desc: pat539237635 Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051= 212/1b4261f8/OTR8932Q.obj
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl a/c clutch r/r
Constantine N. Polites wrote: Has anyone removed and replaced the a/c clutch? If so, do any of the MB procedures apply (CD).? If not any good pitfalls? = I've attached the pages from the 201 manual that describe removal of the = clutch from a Nippondenso compressor. It's essentially the same for ALL = of the cars I've seen them on (124/201/126). Marshall -- = Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 = turbo 237kmi -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NipponD_ACClutch.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 736023 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051= 212/4cc821b5/NipponD_ACClutch.pdf
