Re: [MBZ] 123 SLS pump leaking?

2010-11-03 Thread Fmiser
 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 This sounds serious or perhaps fatal, or possibly even worse?..
 *There is a shaft seal on the inside that can leak down into
 the timing chain vault.*

Naw. Not a big deal except it's not especially good for the
Self-Leveling-Suspension pump to not have oil to pump.  And it's
oil leaking into the oil. Sure, the SLS oil is not the same as
engine oil, but at least on my car, the engine loses crankcase
oil faster than the SLS oil is leaking in.  If indeed that's
where the SLS oil is disappearing to.

I also noticed the SLS oil seems pretty dark for a full flush
about a year and a half ago.  If there is engine oil leaking in,
it wouldn't take much to make it rather black...

Okay. I guess I know what to dig into. *smile* 

I could be worse.  You know, like if the ACC was mis-behaving.
Oh.  That's another job I need to do.  And figure out why the
power steering is sometimes really stiff.  

That's life with a beater!

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 123 SLS pump leaking?

2010-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey

And it's oil leaking into the oil.


A rather runny oil, seems about like kerosene!
Probably not too good for the engine, in quantity.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4

2010-11-03 Thread theprofil...@dwx.com

Various folks wrote:

One thing I've noticed, is that a Mercedes that's accurately described and 
fairly priced tends to sell quickly.  If you ever see one on the market for 
months, or continually being re-listed, it's either overpriced or 
something is wrong that has not been disclosed.

Allan

Congrats on the new job.  It is really sad to see you part with your
  300SD, Sadie.   The pictures look really nice. --Loren
 

What a classy color combination!  Seems like a fantastic deal and I'm
sure she'll sell quickly.  I'd buy her if you were on the West Coast!

-

Thanks for the comments and well-wishes, all. Joe Sasser of this list is 
planning to come up from Texas (!)
 to pick Sadie up later this month. I think he got a very good deal, and I'm 
glad Sadie's going to someone who'll 
continue to enjoy and care for her.

Thanks to Kaleb, Rusty, Loren, the late Marshall, Fred and many others on this 
list that made owning this car for 80k miles
an extremely enjoyable and affordable experience. 

I'll be lurking for a while yet

Dan
300SD 336k
Des Moines 


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Re: [MBZ] Bench shop press

2010-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
I think, if it were me, I would look for a larger press. I often see 
used presses advertised here for reasonable prices.. I bought a small 
bench top unit  - 12 ton - but then bought a floor standing 20 ton unit 
as the little one would not do what I wanted to do without modification. 
Changing the bearings on the rear axles of a Toyota 4Runner - so I 
needed more height.  I think I only paid about $100 for the 12 ton unit 
as I bought it on sale from a company sort of like HF here in Canada.


Randy

On 02/11/2010 6:58 PM, ned kleinhenz wrote:

The Inside Track at HF has a 6 Ton A-Frame Bench Shop Press for $50.
Can something that that be rigged to press the bearings out of the hubs of a
124?
Ned Kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] vote today

2010-11-03 Thread Rolf
Voters know about as much about the candidates as the candidates know 
about their reflective constitutions. Not much.


-Rolf

On 11/02/2010 06:37 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

I would urge everyone to vote today.
I suggest you choose Federal candidates who have read and will comply 
to the US constitution.
I suggest you choose state and local candidates who have read and will 
comply to your state constitution.


When in doubt, vote against the incumbent.

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Re: [MBZ] vote today

2010-11-03 Thread R A Bennell


And they sure do have a SHORT memory!

Randy

On 03/11/2010 10:55 AM, Rolf wrote:
Voters know about as much about the candidates as the candidates know 
about their reflective constitutions. Not much.


-Rolf

On 11/02/2010 06:37 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

I would urge everyone to vote today.
I suggest you choose Federal candidates who have read and will comply 
to the US constitution.
I suggest you choose state and local candidates who have read and 
will comply to your state constitution.


When in doubt, vote against the incumbent.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Actually I was just thinking about the hairdryer trick this morning while 
worrying it might get too cold before I get a chance to get the glows and 
heater done.

Still its weak-sauce compared to a block heater on a timer, especially if I've 
set for defrost the night before...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 13:54:20 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug
Message-ID: 4cd0504c.6000...@voyager.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Curt Raymond wrote:

 U, no. BTDT got the t-shirt. At -10F a 616 is iffy, at -20F it will
 not start Mobil 1 be dammed. That was with my '83 240D, the starter 
just can't spin the engine fast enough long enough to start at that 
temp.

Did you ever try the hair dryer in the intake trick?

Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4

2010-11-03 Thread R A Bennell

That tends to be the case with most things - houses included.

However, if you sell something very quickly, you often wonder if you 
have sold it too cheaply.


I often try to underprice things just so that they will sell faster. 
However, it is often difficult to really judge that sort of thing 
accurately.


We sold a 98 F150 in September and had a lot of interest in it and a 
quick sale although I thought I had priced it reasonably but not really 
cheaply. I think a lot of the reason is that the truck was in nice 
condition for its age and a lot of vehicles are really beaten up by that 
age.


Randy

On 03/11/2010 8:22 AM, theprofil...@dwx.com wrote:

Various folks wrote:

One thing I've noticed, is that a Mercedes that's accurately described and 
fairly priced tends to sell quickly.  If you ever see one on the market for months, 
or continually being re-listed, it's either overpriced or
something is wrong that has not been disclosed.

Allan

Congrats on the new job.  It is really sad to see you part with your

300SD, Sadie.   The pictures look really nice. --Loren

What a classy color combination!  Seems like a fantastic deal and I'm
sure she'll sell quickly.  I'd buy her if you were on the West Coast!

-

Thanks for the comments and well-wishes, all. Joe Sasser of this list is 
planning to come up from Texas (!)
  to pick Sadie up later this month. I think he got a very good deal, and I'm 
glad Sadie's going to someone who'll
continue to enjoy and care for her.

Thanks to Kaleb, Rusty, Loren, the late Marshall, Fred and many others on this 
list that made owning this car for 80k miles
an extremely enjoyable and affordable experience.

I'll be lurking for a while yet

Dan
300SD 336k
Des Moines


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Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Walt Zarnoch
My setup for the truck will likely involve turning on the aux pump and block
heater, then the blower motor once the engine is toasty in order to get the
cab bearable.

Walt
On Nov 3, 2010 12:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Actually I was just thinking about the hairdryer trick this morning while
worrying it might get too cold before I get a chance to get the glows and
heater done.

 Still its weak-sauce compared to a block heater on a timer, especially if
I've set for defrost the night before...

 -Curt

 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 13:54:20 -0400
 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug
 Message-ID: 4cd0504c.6000...@voyager.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Curt Raymond wrote:

 U, no. BTDT got the t-shirt. At -10F a 616 is iffy, at -20F it will
 not start Mobil 1 be dammed. That was with my '83 240D, the starter
 just can't spin the engine fast enough long enough to start at that
 temp.

 Did you ever try the hair dryer in the intake trick?

 Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Walt Zarnoch wrote:

My setup for the truck will likely involve turning on the aux pump and block
heater, then the blower motor once the engine is toasty in order to get the
cab bearable.


I don't think 400w can do much for the entire cab, but if you leave the 
defrosters on the stray heat from the block heater can help keep the windshield 
clear. The nice thing about block heaters is instant heat when you start the 
car, which helps make up for the fact that the seats are cold.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Walt Zarnoch
True, but it'll hopefully get it up at least a few degrees, anything's
better than 28 in my book. :)

Walt
On Nov 3, 2010 2:57 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Walt Zarnoch wrote:
 My setup for the truck will likely involve turning on the aux pump and
block
 heater, then the blower motor once the engine is toasty in order to get
the
 cab bearable.

 I don't think 400w can do much for the entire cab, but if you leave the
 defrosters on the stray heat from the block heater can help keep the
windshield
 clear. The nice thing about block heaters is instant heat when you start
the
 car, which helps make up for the fact that the seats are cold.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
My 76 300D gets to where it really does not want to start up even at 50 
F even with the block heater plugged in. It cranks pretty good and tries 
to start but often takes several tries and runs pretty slow until it 
really gets going. I know you folks have told me I need to check my 
valve adjustments but have yet to do it. It runs fine in warmer weather 
and I rarely need to run it in the cooler weather so it has not really 
caused me much grief. It sounds like it is not hitting on all cylinders 
and I have to keep the starter cranking longer than I like so I am 
concerned that I may do some ultimate harm to the starter. Maybe, if the 
weather holds for another week or two, I will pull the cover and have a 
go at it. I put the car in the garage last night and it may well stay 
there until spring. The insurance has been changed to storage only so I 
cannot drive it now in any event.


Randy in the GWN

On 02/11/2010 9:43 PM, OK Don wrote:

The 617 in the '76 300D started great with M1 at -5, but would hardly crank
with dino oil without the engine heater.
ou are right - the 60x engines are a whole different story - great engines
all around.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  wrote:


U, no. BTDT got the t-shirt. At -10F a 616 is iffy, at -20F it will not
start Mobil 1 be dammed. That was with my '83 240D, the starter just can't
spin the engine fast enough long enough to start at that temp.

60x engine is a whole different story.

-Curt


OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Lee
Glow plugs working?

R A Bennell wrote:
 My 76 300D gets to where it really does not want to start up even at 
 50 F even with the block heater plugged in. It cranks pretty good and 
 tries to start but often takes several tries and runs pretty slow 
 until it really gets going. I know you folks have told me I need to 
 check my valve adjustments but have yet to do it. It runs fine in 
 warmer weather and I rarely need to run it in the cooler weather so it 
 has not really caused me much grief. It sounds like it is not hitting 
 on all cylinders and I have to keep the starter cranking longer than I 
 like so I am concerned that I may do some ultimate harm to the 
 starter. Maybe, if the weather holds for another week or two, I will 
 pull the cover and have a go at it. I put the car in the garage last 
 night and it may well stay there until spring. The insurance has been 
 changed to storage only so I cannot drive it now in any event.

 Randy in the GWN

 On 02/11/2010 9:43 PM, OK Don wrote:
 The 617 in the '76 300D started great with M1 at -5, but would hardly 
 crank
 with dino oil without the engine heater.
 ou are right - the 60x engines are a whole different story - great 
 engines
 all around.

 On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  
 wrote:

 U, no. BTDT got the t-shirt. At -10F a 616 is iffy, at -20F it 
 will not
 start Mobil 1 be dammed. That was with my '83 240D, the starter just 
 can't
 spin the engine fast enough long enough to start at that temp.

 60x engine is a whole different story.

 -Curt

 OK Don
 2001 ML320
 1992 300D 2.5T
 1990 300D 2.5T
 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] vote today

2010-11-03 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote:

 And they sure do have a SHORT memory!


A desire to go to DC is a desire to be mauled by the special interest groups.
There has not been a candidate in probably 40 years that has done what
is best for the nation - most do what they 'seem' to hear from their
constituency, which each desire more hand-out from the feds and their
taxes.  Until we become less of a gimme nation, we have the same
idiocy each time the vote cycle rolls through.  Can you guess which
levers I pulled at the booth?  There is not a dime's worth of
difference between any of the party guys.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] vote today

2010-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6UpBD0OS0

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Re: [MBZ] vote today

2010-11-03 Thread OK Don
If they got enough money to get elected, they are owned by the big
contributors. They don't represent us --- we don't have enough $s.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Randy wrote:
 
  And they sure do have a SHORT memory!
 

 A desire to go to DC is a desire to be mauled by the special interest
 groups.
 There has not been a candidate in probably 40 years that has done what
 is best for the nation - most do what they 'seem' to hear from their
 constituency, which each desire more hand-out from the feds and their
 taxes.  Until we become less of a gimme nation, we have the same
 idiocy each time the vote cycle rolls through.  Can you guess which
 levers I pulled at the booth?  There is not a dime's worth of
 difference between any of the party guys.
 mao


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1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
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Re: [MBZ] 126 ball joints

2010-11-03 Thread Dieselhead
I printed out the jobs, but never really looked at them.  Took them 
apart, beat out the old ball joints and pressed the new ones in. 
Rusty's proper press is just slick.  It only takes about 2 minutes 
each to press in the new joints.  Whole job is about 4 hours so far; 
To take apart the front wheel carrier, beat out the ball joint and 
press in the new joint, then reassemble.It seemed like the most 
time was spent trying to beat out the old joints.  At least 1 hour, I 
am sure.  I put never-seez on the 6mm bolts for the brake backer and 
the ABS sensor.


Problem is the left side upper boot is toast.  So I ordered new upper 
arms.  When they get in  I will finish putting it all back together. 
Unfortunately, the upper boots are NA.  I suppose I should have 
bought some shoo goo and liberally coated the old boots.  Oh well


Q fixed me right up, as usual.




Actually it cannot be extracted and inserted with the hub still 
attached to the knuckle. It is pressed into the knuckle from the 
top, and the bore for it is angled so that the top of the LBJ leans 
toward the spindle/hub.


--
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On Oct 31, 2010, at 10:34, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am about to embark on changing the lower joints on the 126.  The 
book says to take the wheel carrier loose before you start.  Seems 
to me that it could be extracted with the hub and upper joint still 
connected.


 Anyone got advice for 126 LBJ RR?

 I have the official press (from Rusty) to install the new one.

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[MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area

2010-11-03 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Dieselvolk,
 
I'm on a business trip in The Capital (aka The District, aka Taxation Without 
Representation) and I need to have a couple of tires balanced on my '87 300TD.  
I decided to rotate the tires before the 540 mile drive, and that little voice 
tried to tell me that I'd need to get the tires balanced after the rotation, 
but I ignored it.  Sure enough, once my velocity exceeds about 65 mph, I've got 
slight vibration and noise from the front axle.  Would be nice to correct that 
before the 540 mile trip back south.
 
What says the gathered wisdom?  Find nearest Walmart/SearsAuto/Pepboys?
 
Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Washington DC (for another day or two)
'87 300TD, 321k miles
 
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] vote today

2010-11-03 Thread Dieselhead
More like the last 100 years... Probably more.  At least since income 
tax was established.  It 10% is enough for God almighty, a mere 
mortal gummit ought to be pleased with 8 or so.  Now the gummit total 
take among feds, state, property, sales,  and so forth is over 50%.



Randy wrote:


 And they sure do have a SHORT memory!



A desire to go to DC is a desire to be mauled by the special interest groups.
There has not been a candidate in probably 40 years that has done what
is best for the nation - most do what they 'seem' to hear from their
constituency, which each desire more hand-out from the feds and their
taxes.  Until we become less of a gimme nation, we have the same
idiocy each time the vote cycle rolls through.  Can you guess which
levers I pulled at the booth?  There is not a dime's worth of
difference between any of the party guys.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Dieselhead

Sounds like your valves are too tight.



My 76 300D gets to where it really does not want to start up even at 
50 F even with the block heater plugged in. It cranks pretty good 
and tries to start but often takes several tries and runs pretty 
slow until it really gets going. I know you folks have told me I 
need to check my valve adjustments but have yet to do it. It runs 
fine in warmer weather and I rarely need to run it in the cooler 
weather so it has not really caused me much grief. It sounds like it 
is not hitting on all cylinders and I have to keep the starter 
cranking longer than I like so I am concerned that I may do some 
ultimate harm to the starter. Maybe, if the weather holds for 
another week or two, I will pull the cover and have a go at it. I 
put the car in the garage last night and it may well stay there 
until spring. The insurance has been changed to storage only so I 
cannot drive it now in any event.


Randy in the GWN

On 02/11/2010 9:43 PM, OK Don wrote:

The 617 in the '76 300D started great with M1 at -5, but would hardly crank
with dino oil without the engine heater.
ou are right - the 60x engines are a whole different story - great engines
all around.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  wrote:


U, no. BTDT got the t-shirt. At -10F a 616 is iffy, at -20F it will not
start Mobil 1 be dammed. That was with my '83 240D, the starter just can't
spin the engine fast enough long enough to start at that temp.

60x engine is a whole different story.

-Curt


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[MBZ] Downsizing the fleet

2010-11-03 Thread toms cat1

OK.  I have come to the reluctant conclusion that I need to downsize the car 
fleet.  Six BMWs will be reduced/combined into 3, and the 1975 300D needs a new 
owner.  C'est la vie.  The 300D runs and drives now, but it will need some 
work, probably rings and valves.  It has been a great performer for me for over 
10 years, and I do love the car, but it is time to move on.  Priced to win the 
Cheapest Jalopy Award at the next ChowdahQ.  :)  Contact me off list if you 
have any interest.  If no interest in a week, I will be donating the car to my 
program, where it may have a new life as a learning lab.  
 
BTW, here is how I celebrated my 61st birthday last month.  :)  That is my 
older son, Andrew, doing the introduction on the public address system.  I had 
an absolute blast.  :)  
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1xJ8WWEaMkfeature=player_embedded
 
Tom Schuch
SE Connecticut
1975 W115 300D
and a bunch of BMWs
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [MBZ] vote today

2010-11-03 Thread OK Don
I wondered about that 50%, so did someadding and calculating, pulling last
years taxes, etc. Now, you have to factor in that I live in a relatively
poor State, so YMMV - but our total tax load last year was under 20% -
property, sales, state ,and federal. The feds got 8% - so they're right
where you said they should be.
Not that I enjoy paying taxes, but they don't seem to be as bad as many
complain they are, at least here. Maybe you need to move South?

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 More like the last 100 years... Probably more.  At least since income tax
 was established.  It 10% is enough for God almighty, a mere mortal gummit
 ought to be pleased with 8 or so.  Now the gummit total take among feds,
 state, property, sales,  and so forth is over 50%.

OK Don
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1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area

2010-11-03 Thread WILTON
'Don't know 'bout getting tires balanced in DC, but if you're coming back 
down I-95 and in the Selma, NC, or Wilson, NC, area at about an appropriate 
lunch time, maybe we could meet for lunch at Cracker Barrel at one of those 
places.

Do you know an ETA at one of these areas yet?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area



Dieselvolk,

I'm on a business trip in The Capital (aka The District, aka Taxation 
Without Representation) and I need to have a couple of tires balanced on 
my '87 300TD.  I decided to rotate the tires before the 540 mile drive, 
and that little voice tried to tell me that I'd need to get the tires 
balanced after the rotation, but I ignored it.  Sure enough, once my 
velocity exceeds about 65 mph, I've got slight vibration and noise from 
the front axle.  Would be nice to correct that before the 540 mile trip 
back south.


What says the gathered wisdom?  Find nearest Walmart/SearsAuto/Pepboys?

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Washington DC (for another day or two)
'87 300TD, 321k miles




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Re: [MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area

2010-11-03 Thread John Reames
Iirc there's a place called radial tire co in silver spring that advertises in 
the GWS newsletter.  There is also RC Imports which Dr.MB extolled many times.
-j.

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On Nov 3, 2010, at 21:05, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 Dieselvolk,
 
 I'm on a business trip in The Capital (aka The District, aka Taxation Without 
 Representation) and I need to have a couple of tires balanced on my '87 
 300TD.  I decided to rotate the tires before the 540 mile drive, and that 
 little voice tried to tell me that I'd need to get the tires balanced after 
 the rotation, but I ignored it.  Sure enough, once my velocity exceeds about 
 65 mph, I've got slight vibration and noise from the front axle.  Would be 
 nice to correct that before the 540 mile trip back south.
 
 What says the gathered wisdom?  Find nearest Walmart/SearsAuto/Pepboys?
 
 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 Max Dillon
 Washington DC (for another day or two)
 '87 300TD, 321k miles
 
 
 
 
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