Re: [MBZ] New Ride
And I did. One advantage of being List Mom. It's an Okielist. My expectations are low. Dan On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 20:04:33 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dang list strips out attachments. Let's try it with Dropbox links: It's not supposed to. It's supposed to hold them until you approve them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ?
It will be. However, I'm prepared for it, as with limited intelligence comes easily identifiable behavior patterns. That makes it far more bearable and easy to anticipate. And fortunately it's not the parent in-laws, it's their offspring. The parent in-laws are pretty nice people that I get along with well. On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:17 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Hope it doesn't too exasperating with the in-laws. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Did you get a free hamster suit with the rental? Dan who is Soulless On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 49 mpg! wow i rented a kia soul recently and really liked it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I have never ridden in a Prius, but when looking at them from the outside always figured the ride would be harsh due to the small diameter wheels and short wheelbase. With that little distance between axles the chop from any road disturbance would have to be nasty. Say what you want, I love the W126 and W140 cars for long haul cruising. I drove the new W140 over 1,000 miles in under 24 hours and felt relaxed and refreshed. No sore back/butt, etc. Not many cars can do this nowadays. Dan On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:02 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Prius drivers are cows in a herd! Hahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 49 mpg! wow i rented a kia soul recently and really liked it On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Mac Hard Drive
I forget who was looking for a hard drive for their Mac laptop, but OWC is having one of their garage sales right now so it's a good opportunity to pick one up cheap: http://eshop.macsales.com/search/owc.garage.sale?APC=READERSPCsource=Clear14Sept Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Did the Pious have the factory-installed Obama sticker prominent on the hatch lid?? --R On 9/5/14 7:50 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Prius drivers are cows in a herd! Hahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 49 mpg! wow i rented a kia soul recently and really liked it On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mac Hard Drive
That would be me. I ordered one off Amazon, sposed to be here Monday. I also ordered a cheepcheep ext enclosure to see if the drive might be alive enough to pull off a file. You wouldn't have soemthing called Disk Warrior would you? --R On 9/5/14 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I forget who was looking for a hard drive for their Mac laptop, but OWC is having one of their garage sales right now so it's a good opportunity to pick one up cheap: http://eshop.macsales.com/search/owc.garage.sale?APC=READERSPCsource=Clear14Sept Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
When you floorboard it, the engine and the electric motor together do make sort of a mooing sound. Prius' are getting thick around here. Saw one with a tassel on its antenna; obviously so the owner could find the right one in a parking lot. . Gerry On 9/5/2014 7:50 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Prius drivers are cows in a herd! Hahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 49 mpg! wow i rented a kia soul recently and really liked it On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
No, just an invitation to join the Green Party in the glove compartment. Gerry On 9/5/2014 8:50 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Did the Pious have the factory-installed Obama sticker prominent on the hatch lid?? --R On 9/5/14 7:50 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Prius drivers are cows in a herd! Hahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 49 mpg! wow i rented a kia soul recently and really liked it On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mac Hard Drive
Absolutely. DiskWarrior is a must for any hard core Mac person. That being said, it's licensed to me, that is, I can't pass copies around. Sorry. If you want to send me the drive I can run some forensic software on it to pull any remaining data off of it. This is not consumer stuff, it's professional law enforcement software used to recover data. Lemme know. Be glad to do it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 5, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That would be me. I ordered one off Amazon, sposed to be here Monday. I also ordered a cheepcheep ext enclosure to see if the drive might be alive enough to pull off a file. You wouldn't have soemthing called Disk Warrior would you? --R On 9/5/14 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I forget who was looking for a hard drive for their Mac laptop, but OWC is having one of their garage sales right now so it's a good opportunity to pick one up cheap: http://eshop.macsales.com/search/owc.garage.sale?APC=READERSPCsource=Clear14Sept Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mac Hard Drive
If it doesn't show up as an external drive I will send it along. Nothing crucial in the file that I couldn't recreate in a coupla hours in front of the TV, but it is just annoying enough that I want to get it. --R On 9/5/14 9:20 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Absolutely. DiskWarrior is a must for any hard core Mac person. That being said, it's licensed to me, that is, I can't pass copies around. Sorry. If you want to send me the drive I can run some forensic software on it to pull any remaining data off of it. This is not consumer stuff, it's professional law enforcement software used to recover data. Lemme know. Be glad to do it. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
That tassel induces drag; cuts into the mpg. Well, the antenna does, too. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius When you floorboard it, the engine and the electric motor together do make sort of a mooing sound. Prius' are getting thick around here. Saw one with a tassel on its antenna; obviously so the owner could find the right one in a parking lot. . Gerry On 9/5/2014 7:50 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Prius drivers are cows in a herd! Hahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 49 mpg! wow i rented a kia soul recently and really liked it On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I'll take my '95 E300 with 348k miles across country any day. Long trips are the easiest driving for any car, it's the short-haul stuff around town that is really hard on them. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Did you really get 49mpg or did the instant read tell you 49mpg? I think you'll find in only highway driving the mileage will go down significantly. Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] Testing Prius Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Maintain that Jetta
My Jetta has a had a disconcerting little noise lately. Last week Angie had a new wheel bearing put into the front end and one noise went away which revealed another. It goes away when I put in the clutch, hmmm. I'd already planned on swapping the transmission/transaxle fluid again this year since what I took out last year was nasty. This year I decided on straight MTL, last year I'd used half MT-90 and half MTL but when it was very cold last winter the first couple shifts were quite stiff. Knowing that the VW stuff is very thin I figured the MTL wouldn't hurt anything. This is only a mildly unpleasant job on the Jetta, just a little worse than an oil change. The car gets jacked up, the belly pan comes off, loosen the filler first, then pull the drain. What came out didn't really resemble the nice red stuff I'd put in last year but unlike last year it didn't smell bad so I consider that an improvement. Interestingly I only got about a quart and a half out and the car should hold two full quarts. I'm kind of hoping the lack of fluid is the cause of the noise but I'm also preparing myself for a clutch... No time to test it today, gotta head over to the Dodge dealer, secret mission. :) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
it seems it was just a reading off the dash and not anything actually physically measured the jetta i'd want is about double that On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did you really get 49mpg or did the instant read tell you 49mpg? I think you'll find in only highway driving the mileage will go down significantly. Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] Testing Prius Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Instant read. Since Pruis' gets 44-45 mpg consistently on the highway, and there was a good bit of stop and go regenerative driving in town, 49 mpg might be close. Son has a Hybrid Ford Fusion with Prius hybrid electronics. Instant read showed 37 mpg on fast 80 mph trip from Nashville to Orlando in that fairly heavy car and he didn't believe it. He checked it the usual way on a similar trip, and sure enough, it got around 37 mpg. From that I would guess that Prius' instant read is close to correct. Gerry On 9/5/2014 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Did you really get 49mpg or did the instant read tell you 49mpg? I think you'll find in only highway driving the mileage will go down significantly. Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] Testing Prius Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I had a Kia Soul rental back in February. Great car, I really liked it. For a larger gentlemen like yourself it would be a good choice for ease of entrance and exit. I don't recall the mpg numbers but fueleconomy.gov suggests as good (or slightly better) as a gasser Passat. The ride is not as plush but the carrying capacity is probably better. -Curt From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius if i got one, i'd get the sportswagen. i might just get the kia soul though but the mpg numbers on that for me might be as bad as half as good as the diesel VW On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I drove a TDI last year, a 2012 model, that was $23,000. It was pretty base, 6spd manual trans, no satellite radio or sat/nav neither of which I particularly want. That car is rated at 45mpg I think but should do much better. My boss has a 2013 Passat and reports 47-48mpg in mostly highway driving. I *think* my Jetta has a chip (ie. computer upgrade) which is why it feels slightly more powerful than the other '98 Jetta I drove and seems to get better mileage than most. All winter it hovered right around 50mpg and this summer has hit 55mpg a couple times. -Curt From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius it seems it was just a reading off the dash and not anything actually physically measured the jetta i'd want is about double that On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did you really get 49mpg or did the instant read tell you 49mpg? I think you'll find in only highway driving the mileage will go down significantly. Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] Testing Prius Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
MPG is not the only thing I like about Prius: worldwide installed base (more used parts available), large amount of load carrying space via back door, excellent repair record, good advice on several forums/lists, etc. Since diesel is 60 cents more per gallon here in the backwoods, the saving on fuel is even more significant. Besides that, working on a Prius (after 45 years of working on Mercedes) should be interesting and maybe exciting since there is as much as 560 volts on the battery/motor system according to the manual. [:o) Gerry On 9/5/2014 11:35 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: it seems it was just a reading off the dash and not anything actually physically measured the jetta i'd want is about double that On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did you really get 49mpg or did the instant read tell you 49mpg? I think you'll find in only highway driving the mileage will go down significantly. Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] Testing Prius Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maintain that Jetta
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 08:30:06 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My Jetta has a had a disconcerting little noise lately. Last week Angie had a new wheel bearing put into the front end and one noise went away which revealed another. It goes away when I put in the clutch, hmmm. I'm kind of hoping the lack of fluid is the cause of the noise but I'm also preparing myself for a clutch... I presume put in the clutch means press the clutch pedal to the floor. When you have the transmission in neutral with the clutch pedal up, the input shaft of the transmission is rotating. When you press the clutch pedal down, the input shaft stops rotating and the clutch bearing starts rotating. So, if you have noise with the pedal up, it's the input shaft bearings; if you have noise with the pedal down, it's the clutch bearing. No time to test it today, gotta head over to the Dodge dealer, secret mission. :) I presume that after the mission is accomplished, you will be able to reveal what happened ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
And you get a free hamster suit, too! Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a Kia Soul rental back in February. Great car, I really liked it. For a larger gentlemen like yourself it would be a good choice for ease of entrance and exit. I don't recall the mpg numbers but fueleconomy.gov suggests as good (or slightly better) as a gasser Passat. The ride is not as plush but the carrying capacity is probably better. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
The computer setup in my F150 seems to be pretty able to calculate fuel usage. I filled it this week and it said I used 74 liters and that is what I pumped in. Sometimes it will be off a liter or two but that may depend on how much I fill it etc so I am reasonably impressed with its ability to determine mileage. It shows me 12.2 l per 100 k so that works out to almost 23 mpg on the imp gallon which is better than my previous truck did most of the time but still not wonderful. Of course, that was on a trip from here to the lake where part of the run is reasonably flat and fast - 80 mph for 80 miles and then a more hilly and curvy part for 80 miles or more X2 as we also came back, plus some running around out at the lake, launching and retrieving the boat etc. Not really heavily loaded but 3 grown men and luggage etc so not empty either. And it rained part of the way back so not the most opportune for mileage. RB On 05/09/2014 10:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Did you really get 49mpg or did the instant read tell you 49mpg? I think you'll find in only highway driving the mileage will go down significantly. Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] Testing Prius Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maintain that Jetta
you should get a prius On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My Jetta has a had a disconcerting little noise lately. Last week Angie had a new wheel bearing put into the front end and one noise went away which revealed another. It goes away when I put in the clutch, hmmm. I'd already planned on swapping the transmission/transaxle fluid again this year since what I took out last year was nasty. This year I decided on straight MTL, last year I'd used half MT-90 and half MTL but when it was very cold last winter the first couple shifts were quite stiff. Knowing that the VW stuff is very thin I figured the MTL wouldn't hurt anything. This is only a mildly unpleasant job on the Jetta, just a little worse than an oil change. The car gets jacked up, the belly pan comes off, loosen the filler first, then pull the drain. What came out didn't really resemble the nice red stuff I'd put in last year but unlike last year it didn't smell bad so I consider that an improvement. Interestingly I only got about a quart and a half out and the car should hold two full quarts. I'm kind of hoping the lack of fluid is the cause of the noise but I'm also preparing myself for a clutch... No time to test it today, gotta head over to the Dodge dealer, secret mission. :) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
WILTON via Mercedes wrote: That tassel induces drag; cuts into the mpg. Well, the antenna does, too. ;) Yeah, I'm surprised to hear they aren't wire on glass instead of whip antennae. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
What's with the losoe gun? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Saw one along the road the other day with the hood up. Don't think I want one. Have had 3 Toyotas over time and cannot say any of them left a lasting good impression. Not anxious to do that again. A new Honda Civic is probably a better deal than a Prius and an Accord an even better answer. I like the photos of Dan's new MB but I don't know that I want one with mileage that high. I like the MB with the oval headlights - about a 97 E300? However, at that age, most will also have high miles. I might be dreaming but I doubt my 76 300D has gone around more than once. I know some of its history and it would appear that it has spent a lot of time not being used much. For my own example, I have driven it about 13 or 14K miles since July of 2005 when I bought it. That works out to an average of about 1500 miles per year. I have told this story before but it goes like this: An MD bought it new in Winnipeg from the dealer and kept it a long while. I don't have his name but I have some of the original documentation showing trips to the dealer for oil changes etc up to about 80K miles or so. I am assuming he drove it in the winter when it was new but got to where he did not but I could be mistaken on that. Someone likely did try to use it in the winter as the spare tire is a winter radial. His barber lived in a condo or apartment with underground parking and the MD started parking it at the barber's place for the winter. The barber ultimately bought it and he kept it a long while. The fellow I bought it from acquired it from the barber and had it re-painted. He did not use it much as he lived in a condo and had no parking for it at home. He kept it at his shop and drove it occasionally in summer. I got it in July 2005 at which time it showed 990 miles on the odometer. I have had to do nothing to it since I got it apart from changing oil annually and having the front seats re-padded. So, it is impossible really to tell, but I really wonder if it is only 115K miles or if it has more. I don't have any experience with high mileage MB's so nothing to compare it to but it certainly seems tight. My experience with most other brands of vehicles at higher mileage is that it usually feels somewhat worn. How is that for going off on a tangent? RB On 05/09/2014 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Loose, I mean... On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What's with the losoe gun? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
You did finally set the valves on the 300D didn't you? Hows that working out? I seem to remember the car was getting a little harder to start. Anybody interested in a Prius should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DFzl6ZU5k Actually anybody interested in old cars should be watching the Roadkill series period... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Saw one along the road the other day with the hood up. Don't think I want one. Have had 3 Toyotas over time and cannot say any of them left a lasting good impression. Not anxious to do that again. A new Honda Civic is probably a better deal than a Prius and an Accord an even better answer. I like the photos of Dan's new MB but I don't know that I want one with mileage that high. I like the MB with the oval headlights - about a 97 E300? However, at that age, most will also have high miles. I might be dreaming but I doubt my 76 300D has gone around more than once. I know some of its history and it would appear that it has spent a lot of time not being used much. For my own example, I have driven it about 13 or 14K miles since July of 2005 when I bought it. That works out to an average of about 1500 miles per year. I have told this story before but it goes like this: An MD bought it new in Winnipeg from the dealer and kept it a long while. I don't have his name but I have some of the original documentation showing trips to the dealer for oil changes etc up to about 80K miles or so. I am assuming he drove it in the winter when it was new but got to where he did not but I could be mistaken on that. Someone likely did try to use it in the winter as the spare tire is a winter radial. His barber lived in a condo or apartment with underground parking and the MD started parking it at the barber's place for the winter. The barber ultimately bought it and he kept it a long while. The fellow I bought it from acquired it from the barber and had it re-painted. He did not use it much as he lived in a condo and had no parking for it at home. He kept it at his shop and drove it occasionally in summer. I got it in July 2005 at which time it showed 990 miles on the odometer. I have had to do nothing to it since I got it apart from changing oil annually and having the front seats re-padded. So, it is impossible really to tell, but I really wonder if it is only 115K miles or if it has more. I don't have any experience with high mileage MB's so nothing to compare it to but it certainly seems tight. My experience with most other brands of vehicles at higher mileage is that it usually feels somewhat worn. How is that for going off on a tangent? RB On 05/09/2014 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Yes, finally did re-adjust the valves. I think it starts faster. Someone suggested I should drive it some and then re-set again. Will likely wait until spring but will do that too. Not really a hard thing to do. Would like to find a ratcheting box end that fits the power steering pulley nut and add a bit on it so I could crank it over without sticking my arm down in by the rad as that was a bit of a pain. Apart from that, just need to remember which wrenches I used to do the one valve where the special wrenches did not fit well. Will see how it starts when it gets a bit colder. That was the starting issue as it got unhappy when the temperatures dropped off. RB On 05/09/2014 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You did finally set the valves on the 300D didn't you? Hows that working out? I seem to remember the car was getting a little harder to start. Anybody interested in a Prius should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DFzl6ZU5k Actually anybody interested in old cars should be watching the Roadkill series period... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
I don't know what losoe means, Google doesn't either. I presume you took a look through my Photobucket and found this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_121229180_zpsv4gdcnkq.jpg Its a Chinese made B3 airgun. My dad gave it to me as I was under-impressed with my Crossman 10 pump for dispatching garden pests. Its an interesting little gun, build just as cheap as you could possibly make one. Purportedly the stocks are cut from leftover pallets. Thats possibly true but mine looks better than that, at least there are no nail holes that have been filled with putty. I need to order a new rear sight, it shoots low and can't come up any farther as the adjustment screw is too short. I'll try shimming it also but the adjustment screw wasn't cut square so its a poor thing at best. Even with the bad sight its surprisingly accurate for an airgun Dad paid $16 for. http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_081842446_HDR_zpspuxfd79t.jpg You can see on the left where I was walking it up to the target, on the right although its low is a pretty good group. Not bad for a sitting position with a cheap gun anyway. With careful aim it'd kill a squirrel as is. I had been contemplating something in the $200 range and might still go there, airguns are fun, inexpensive, cheap to shoot and nobody complains if I shoot right in my backyard... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed What's with the losoe gun? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Nice! I was shocked how much quieter my '78 240D was after I finally did the valves myself. I think my Indy was leaving them a little loose or he was starting the car to take it in the shop before he did them. He certainly didn't take the time on them that I did... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Yes, finally did re-adjust the valves. I think it starts faster. Someone suggested I should drive it some and then re-set again. Will likely wait until spring but will do that too. Not really a hard thing to do. Would like to find a ratcheting box end that fits the power steering pulley nut and add a bit on it so I could crank it over without sticking my arm down in by the rad as that was a bit of a pain. Apart from that, just need to remember which wrenches I used to do the one valve where the special wrenches did not fit well. Will see how it starts when it gets a bit colder. That was the starting issue as it got unhappy when the temperatures dropped off. RB On 05/09/2014 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You did finally set the valves on the 300D didn't you? Hows that working out? I seem to remember the car was getting a little harder to start. Anybody interested in a Prius should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DFzl6ZU5k Actually anybody interested in old cars should be watching the Roadkill series period... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
BTW I have to remember I can't make fun of our Super Crew anymore now that I'm a member of the fullsize truck club :) -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Yes, finally did re-adjust the valves. I think it starts faster. Someone suggested I should drive it some and then re-set again. Will likely wait until spring but will do that too. Not really a hard thing to do. Would like to find a ratcheting box end that fits the power steering pulley nut and add a bit on it so I could crank it over without sticking my arm down in by the rad as that was a bit of a pain. Apart from that, just need to remember which wrenches I used to do the one valve where the special wrenches did not fit well. Will see how it starts when it gets a bit colder. That was the starting issue as it got unhappy when the temperatures dropped off. RB On 05/09/2014 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You did finally set the valves on the 300D didn't you? Hows that working out? I seem to remember the car was getting a little harder to start. Anybody interested in a Prius should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DFzl6ZU5k Actually anybody interested in old cars should be watching the Roadkill series period... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Nice looking truck. I would have cheerfully bought another used truck too but I did not want to spend a lot of time looking. They do exist but the hunting can be discouraging. A neighbor bought a decent looking F150 shortly after I got my 2013. I do not recall the year or the mileage but he paid $12K and I would have been prepared to pay that for it. Unless I have bad luck and it gets wrecked, I will probably have my 2013 for a very long time. I don't put huge miles on and I am fairly easy on a vehicle in my opinion so I am not likely to wear it out fast so buying a new one is not the worst idea I have ever had. My 02 had 90K miles on it when I bought it and now has 180K and is going strong. I gave it to my younger son and he has repaired a couple of things but so far nothing really major. There was an exhaust leak that was fixed with nothing more than new gaskets and studs. He has done a bit of work on the suspension and brakes but just normal wear items. It has a bit of rust in the rocker panels and the seats are worn a bit but it still looks good and runs and rides well. He is going to put new shocks on it. I never did and cannot say if the one's on it are original or not. RB On 05/09/2014 1:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
I am also told that one can often improve a a cheap airgun with fairly basic work. I do not recall enough detail to give specifics but I also follow a metal working forum and some of the fellows over there were talking about the improvements that can be made without much effort. I want one too but the better ones require that I get a different firearms licence. I would have to go and take a weekend course in order to qualify. I have a possession licence that permits me to keep the guns I have but not to acquire more without the upgrade to the licence. I could get my son to buy it as he has the licence I guess. A left over remnant from the gun control laws of a few years back that required us all to register our guns. a bit wierd as some of mine were old enough to not have serial numbers etc so they sent me stickers that I was supposed to apply to them. They would not have lasted long if one used the gun at all outdoors. RB On 05/09/2014 1:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I don't know what losoe means, Google doesn't either. I presume you took a look through my Photobucket and found this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_121229180_zpsv4gdcnkq.jpg Its a Chinese made B3 airgun. My dad gave it to me as I was under-impressed with my Crossman 10 pump for dispatching garden pests. Its an interesting little gun, build just as cheap as you could possibly make one. Purportedly the stocks are cut from leftover pallets. Thats possibly true but mine looks better than that, at least there are no nail holes that have been filled with putty. I need to order a new rear sight, it shoots low and can't come up any farther as the adjustment screw is too short. I'll try shimming it also but the adjustment screw wasn't cut square so its a poor thing at best. Even with the bad sight its surprisingly accurate for an airgun Dad paid $16 for. http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_081842446_HDR_zpspuxfd79t.jpg You can see on the left where I was walking it up to the target, on the right although its low is a pretty good group. Not bad for a sitting position with a cheap gun anyway. With careful aim it'd kill a squirrel as is. I had been contemplating something in the $200 range and might still go there, airguns are fun, inexpensive, cheap to shoot and nobody complains if I shoot right in my backyard... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
On 9/5/2014 1:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: WILTON via Mercedes wrote: That tassel induces drag; cuts into the mpg. Well, the antenna does, too. ;) Yeah, I'm surprised to hear they aren't wire on glass instead of whip antennae. Mitch. It's very short, more like the old in-car cellphone antennas, and in the middle of the top towards the back. The receiver possibly sees a better ground plane with it up there. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
On 05/09/2014 1:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: BTW I have to remember I can't make fun of our Super Crew anymore now that I'm a member of the fullsize truck club :) -Curt In my humble opinion, the 4 door truck is the best thing since sliced bread. I added a hard folding tonneau cover so now I can haul stuff in the box without worrying about rain. The stuff is also out of sight and reasonably secure with the tailgate locked so it is easier to stop for food etc. It is essentially a big comfortable sedan with an abilty to haul up to 6 people and all of their luggage and pull god only knows what behind if you need to do that too. My son brought his friend Brian with him to fish this last weekend. Tom is 6'3 and Brian is 6'5. Brian sat in the back seat and was truly amazed at the leg room available to him. The way that the back seats fold now is great too. If I fold the seats up I have a huge floor area to load whatever will fit. My 02 folded differently in that the seat back folded down so there was a reasonably flat area to pile stuff but it was not nearly so tall or flat. The only thing I miss about that setup is that there were compartments in the back of the cab behind the seat that were useful to store things. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Neighbor said I would have to start eating alfalfa sprouts, tofu, hummus, and join the Unitarian church if I bought a Prius. Gerry On 9/5/2014 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
On 05/09/2014 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You have to have a license to have an AIRGUN? Thats a police state... I've read several articles on how to improve the B3, most of it is just cleaning up poor workmanship, it was definitely made to a price point. The marketing says it'll shoot 800 fps, most people say 450 fps is more like it but with tuning 600 is not uncommon. A $200 Ruger will do more like 1000. The worst thing is that the spring doesn't have any oil on it so it smacks around unpleasantly when you shoot. I'd hate to put a scope on it since the recoil (which isn't the right word, because of the spring it recoils forward) would kill it in pretty short order. The gun I'd like to upgrade to is an air piston model which would be much easier on a scope. That said at 20-30 yards a scope isn't really required. I've got one on my Crossman and it only served to point out that the gun isn't as accurate as the iron (well plastic) sights are and it didn't get more accurate with a scope. -Curt Only if it has a muzzle velocity over 1200 fps or something like that. The good ones do. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Don't forget to grow a beard, wear birkenstocks with socks and long pants. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Neighbor said I would have to start eating alfalfa sprouts, tofu, hummus, and join the Unitarian church if I bought a Prius. Gerry On 9/5/2014 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Sweet. Congratulations. Going to use it to haul Colemans to the ChowdahQ? We could paint a tri star on the hood. On Sep 5, 2014 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
You have to have a license to have an AIRGUN? Thats a police state... I've read several articles on how to improve the B3, most of it is just cleaning up poor workmanship, it was definitely made to a price point. The marketing says it'll shoot 800 fps, most people say 450 fps is more like it but with tuning 600 is not uncommon. A $200 Ruger will do more like 1000. The worst thing is that the spring doesn't have any oil on it so it smacks around unpleasantly when you shoot. I'd hate to put a scope on it since the recoil (which isn't the right word, because of the spring it recoils forward) would kill it in pretty short order. The gun I'd like to upgrade to is an air piston model which would be much easier on a scope. That said at 20-30 yards a scope isn't really required. I've got one on my Crossman and it only served to point out that the gun isn't as accurate as the iron (well plastic) sights are and it didn't get more accurate with a scope. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed I am also told that one can often improve a a cheap airgun with fairly basic work. I do not recall enough detail to give specifics but I also follow a metal working forum and some of the fellows over there were talking about the improvements that can be made without much effort. I want one too but the better ones require that I get a different firearms licence. I would have to go and take a weekend course in order to qualify. I have a possession licence that permits me to keep the guns I have but not to acquire more without the upgrade to the licence. I could get my son to buy it as he has the licence I guess. A left over remnant from the gun control laws of a few years back that required us all to register our guns. a bit wierd as some of mine were old enough to not have serial numbers etc so they sent me stickers that I was supposed to apply to them. They would not have lasted long if one used the gun at all outdoors. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Actually anybody interested in old cars should be watching the Roadkill series period... -Curt Have they done any on Mercedes? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Yeah, I forgot he mentioned wooden shoes (Birkenstocks?). Gerry On 9/5/2014 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Don't forget to grow a beard, wear birkenstocks with socks and long pants. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Neighbor said I would have to start eating alfalfa sprouts, tofu, hummus, and join the Unitarian church if I bought a Prius. Gerry On 9/5/2014 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
What channel is Roadkill on? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, I forgot he mentioned wooden shoes (Birkenstocks?). Gerry On 9/5/2014 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Don't forget to grow a beard, wear birkenstocks with socks and long pants. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Neighbor said I would have to start eating alfalfa sprouts, tofu, hummus, and join the Unitarian church if I bought a Prius. Gerry On 9/5/2014 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
If I ever get a gun it will be one of those trick waterpistols that shoots sideways. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sweet. Congratulations. Going to use it to haul Colemans to the ChowdahQ? We could paint a tri star on the hood. On Sep 5, 2014 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Your a losoer --R On 9/5/14 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Loose, I mean... On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What's with the losoe gun? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
And that applies to the women who drive them too. --R On 9/5/14 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Don't forget to grow a beard, wear birkenstocks with socks and long pants. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Neighbor said I would have to start eating alfalfa sprouts, tofu, hummus, and join the Unitarian church if I bought a Prius. Gerry On 9/5/2014 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
At the risk of asking a stupid question, if it's a 4WD, why the need (and expense!) of adding an LSD? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z psjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
BTW, congrats on the nice-looking truck! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z psjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Because, if it is slippery, and one wheel starts to spin, then the likelyhood of moving forward is much reduced. The back would stop pushing and one would be relying solely on traction in the front. With a locker in the back, if the one wheel starts to spin, then the other one keeps trying to move the truck forward. The old joke about 4 wheel drive is that vehicles with it are just stuck a bit further in. If it is slippery or the snow is deep etc, then you need all the help you can get. My 02 F150 had a limited slip axle that would grab automatically if one wheel slipped. My 13 F150 has a different style that I can turn on by pulling out the knob that controls the transfer case. It is not all that common to have a locker in the front axle. I think some of the hard core offroad folks do that but it is generally not recommended for on road use. RB On 05/09/2014 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: At the risk of asking a stupid question, if it's a 4WD, why the need (and expense!) of adding an LSD? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z psjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Old MB
Good thing they built old Mercedes strong. I just came back from the bank. There is a storm going through and when I opened the driver's door, Mother Nature did her best to rip off my door. Does not appear to have suffered any harm. I wonder how a Prius would have reacted? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] SAC B-47 tale - O-RING SEALS
O-RING SEALS By Wilton Strickland Before I was commissioned via USAF Officer Candidate School in 1960, I was a maintenance crew chief on B-47E's at Lincoln AFB, NE, for about 2½ years. During the 1959 Christmas holiday period, the entire unit of 45 B-47's and about 20 KC-97's stood down for a week or so - there was no flying, and no maintenance was performed on the aircraft during this time - everyone in the wing, except certain essential personnel was off duty for the entire several days. Temperature during this time was about 0° to 10° F. When we returned to work, all of the airplanes were thoroughly cold-soaked - systems on most of them had not been operated for well over a week. This caused rubber seals to shrink and become hard, leading to a special problem for fuel booster pumps. In the bottom of each fuel tank, were electrically-operated booster pumps used to send fuel from the tanks to the engines or to transfer fuel from tank to tank. There were several tanks on the aircraft, and each tank had at least two pumps, some had four pumps for a total of 28 of these pumps on the aircraft. These pumps were notorious for leaking, even during normal day-to-day flying and maintenance conditions. On the very cold January morning when we returned to work after the week or so off, all of us crew chiefs applied power from the external power carts (MD-3's), started running the fuel booster pumps and checking them for leaks in the usual places. Almost immediately, there was a big backlog of B-47's waiting to be towed to the refueling pits to have all of their fuel removed to facilitate removing and replacing many fuel booster pumps. I found several of the pumps on my aircraft leaking, too, but I did not think it was alarming enough to warrant mass pump replacements. I was by myself again that day and had no help for changing a bunch of pumps that I thought was likely unnecessary, anyway. I just continued to wipe the small bit of leakage away at each pump as necessary and kept running the pumps, hoping that the O-ring seals would warm up and seal themselves. I just kept quiet about any leakage and kept making the rounds to all of the pumps for several hours. Gradually the number of leaks began to diminish until I had no leaks at all. Most of the other aircraft in my unit were still being de-fueled and getting pumps replaced when I closed up and left at the end of the day. My aircraft had not moved from its parking space all day. I've often wondered why nobody seemed concerned that I had reported no leaks all day while most other crew chiefs were reporting many. About 25 years later, on the very cold morning in 1985, when I heard a news report that the temperature at Cape Canaveral was significantly lower than that experienced by any space shuttle launch before, I thought of those leaking fuel pump O-ring seals on that cold January morning in 1960 and even said aloud to myself, Uh-oh, that could be trouble. They should not launch. You know the rest of the story. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old MB
You would have been electrocuted in a PIssus. IMHO. On Sep 5, 2014 5:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Good thing they built old Mercedes strong. I just came back from the bank. There is a storm going through and when I opened the driver's door, Mother Nature did her best to rip off my door. Does not appear to have suffered any harm. I wonder how a Prius would have reacted? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:05:18 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What channel is Roadkill on? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, I forgot he mentioned wooden shoes (Birkenstocks?). Gerry On 9/5/2014 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Don't forget to grow a beard, wear birkenstocks with socks and long pants. It's on the one with the guy with a beard who hawks birkenstocks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
1200 fps is serious territory with an airgun, you need special pellets or they just come apart. I'd want to make sure kids didn't get them. I suppose licensing does that... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed On 05/09/2014 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You have to have a license to have an AIRGUN? Thats a police state... I've read several articles on how to improve the B3, most of it is just cleaning up poor workmanship, it was definitely made to a price point. The marketing says it'll shoot 800 fps, most people say 450 fps is more like it but with tuning 600 is not uncommon. A $200 Ruger will do more like 1000. The worst thing is that the spring doesn't have any oil on it so it smacks around unpleasantly when you shoot. I'd hate to put a scope on it since the recoil (which isn't the right word, because of the spring it recoils forward) would kill it in pretty short order. The gun I'd like to upgrade to is an air piston model which would be much easier on a scope. That said at 20-30 yards a scope isn't really required. I've got one on my Crossman and it only served to point out that the gun isn't as accurate as the iron (well plastic) sights are and it didn't get more accurate with a scope. -Curt Only if it has a muzzle velocity over 1200 fps or something like that. The good ones do. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Not yet, mostly American muscle cars. The only exception is the Rotsun, a Datsun 240Z with a Chevy 4.6l in it... -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Actually anybody interested in old cars should be watching the Roadkill series period... -Curt Have they done any on Mercedes? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Its part of the Motor Trend channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL12C0C916CECEA3BC Television is so ten years ago, all the cool kids watch the internet... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius What channel is Roadkill on? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, I forgot he mentioned wooden shoes (Birkenstocks?). Gerry On 9/5/2014 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Don't forget to grow a beard, wear birkenstocks with socks and long pants. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Neighbor said I would have to start eating alfalfa sprouts, tofu, hummus, and join the Unitarian church if I bought a Prius. Gerry On 9/5/2014 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Friday funnies: Mutant Giant Spider Dog!
Mutant Giant Spider Dog (SA Wardega): http://youtu.be/YoB8t0B4jx4 Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Because 4wd is really 2wd. I've been stuck with just two wheels spinning. When you're offroad you what every advantage you can get. Its the same reason I won't have an AWD vehicle, I can drive into stuff in 2wd I can back out of in 4wd. If you drive in to a hole in 4wd and get stuck what have you got? Well yeah, I've got the highlift jack. Which reminds me, I bought Dad extraction ramps for Father's day, I'm buying him his own highlift jack for hunting season. He got his Jeep stuck last year... -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Curt Raymond' curtlud...@yahoo.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 5:00 PM Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed At the risk of asking a stupid question, if it's a 4WD, why the need (and expense!) of adding an LSD? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z psjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SAC B-47 tale - O-RING SEALS
crew chiefs applied power from the external power carts (MD-3's), Anybody else here besides me actually _have_ an MD-3? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Congratulations on your new-to-you Dodge. I hope it lasts for years to come. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Elon Musk is going to build lower price Teslas in his multi-billion dollar plant in Nevada. Two to three hundred mile range; 0-60 in 4.6 seconds; and 90 mpg equivalent fuel consumption. Might be worth waiting for one of those. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-31/panasonic-tesla-in-deal-to-build-battery-gigafactory-.html Gerry On 9/5/2014 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Don't forget to grow a beard, wear birkenstocks with socks and long pants. -Curt Neighbor said I would have to start eating alfalfa sprouts, tofu, hummus, and join the Unitarian church if I bought a Prius. Gerry On 9/5/2014 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Friday funnies: Mutant Giant Spider Dog!
Max wrote: Mutant Giant Spider Dog (SA Wardega) Insane people are the Best! yep mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Curt wrote: Television is so ten years ago, all the cool kids watch the internet... I agree - television is dead. I look at hulu for shows that might be marginally interesting but most shows are reality shows. I see zero reality in any of those offerings. Who watches that stuff? It seems like the hulu financial model intends to shift viewers over to hulu+ which is no different than cable - pay television. It is not worth the dollar so internet is the way to see television, if there is any out there to be seen, and where? - hulu going to pay-tv is an internet-tv ruination. Where else can shows be seen? youtube, as you mention, any others? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] MB and Prius doors
Good thing they built old Mercedes strong. I just came back from the bank. There is a storm going through and when I opened the driver's door, Mother Nature did her best to rip off my door. Does not appear to have suffered any harm. I wonder how a Prius would have reacted? RB ___ Prius doors are heavy and solid; not tinny at allGerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
