[MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
Folks My 82 300td had been running like crap. The intake and exhaust manifolds were falling off … three nuts were missing out of 7 We pulled it all apart. Everything was full of soot. LOTS OF SOOT. I've been covered in grease and carbon black for days. We cleaned it all. Since the turbo seemed to have a lot of play, we took it all apart, cleaned the crap out of the inside of it and installed a center section rebuild kit … bearings, seals, oil plates or whatever they are, etc … the kit was about $35 on ebay. The shaft and the turbines looked great ….. i guess air filters are a good investment While i was messing with the car, i also replaced a banged up oil pan with a new one and replaced the right side engine mount and messed with the engine shock bushings …. i have a good unit on the right now, but none on the left. i also eliminated the erg valve. I'm going to replace a leaking transmission line and the flex hoses and do a transmission service, next. Today we finished putting it all back together. It starts up and runs nice. I didn't have a chance to test drive it but i'll report on that tomorrow after i'm sure that nothing is leaking oil thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I would try any 3000+lbs car that had the following characteristics: 50+ mpg, exceptional repair record over time, back lid or door, large luggage deck space/volume, diesel cost per mile equivalent to gasoline cost per mile, large installed base (parts availability), comfortable ride, 2 motive power systems in case one fails, and effective rust/corrosion protection. Gerry P.S. It's interesting reading the criticisms about Prius' when it's obvious the critics want a Prius but can't or won't buy a Prius. [:o) On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:44:57 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's what I was going to say -- I've gotten 53 MPG on the road, wife gets 35mpg in town. I love the DSG tranny - dual clutch trannys are cool --- On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8187 - Release Date: 09/10/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
How many miles on that beast now? Soot: Given your choice of fuel, I wonder if the injection pump timing can be adjusted to reduce soot? Blocking or deleting the EGR valve will help tremendously. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 11, 2014 2:30 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Folks My 82 300td had been running like crap. The intake and exhaust manifolds were falling off … three nuts were missing out of 7 We pulled it all apart. Everything was full of soot. LOTS OF SOOT. I've been covered in grease and carbon black for days. We cleaned it all. Since the turbo seemed to have a lot of play, we took it all apart, cleaned the crap out of the inside of it and installed a center section rebuild kit … bearings, seals, oil plates or whatever they are, etc … the kit was about $35 on ebay. The shaft and the turbines looked great ….. i guess air filters are a good investment While i was messing with the car, i also replaced a banged up oil pan with a new one and replaced the right side engine mount and messed with the engine shock bushings …. i have a good unit on the right now, but none on the left. i also eliminated the erg valve. I'm going to replace a leaking transmission line and the flex hoses and do a transmission service, next. Today we finished putting it all back together. It starts up and runs nice. I didn't have a chance to test drive it but i'll report on that tomorrow after i'm sure that nothing is leaking oil thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
ATTABOY a comin'. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:30 AM Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild Folks My 82 300td had been running like crap. The intake and exhaust manifolds were falling off … three nuts were missing out of 7 We pulled it all apart. Everything was full of soot. LOTS OF SOOT. I've been covered in grease and carbon black for days. We cleaned it all. Since the turbo seemed to have a lot of play, we took it all apart, cleaned the crap out of the inside of it and installed a center section rebuild kit … bearings, seals, oil plates or whatever they are, etc … the kit was about $35 on ebay. The shaft and the turbines looked great ….. i guess air filters are a good investment While i was messing with the car, i also replaced a banged up oil pan with a new one and replaced the right side engine mount and messed with the engine shock bushings …. i have a good unit on the right now, but none on the left. i also eliminated the erg valve. I'm going to replace a leaking transmission line and the flex hoses and do a transmission service, next. Today we finished putting it all back together. It starts up and runs nice. I didn't have a chance to test drive it but i'll report on that tomorrow after i'm sure that nothing is leaking oil thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
it's the bottom feeders' lament On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:20 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would try any 3000+lbs car that had the following characteristics: 50+ mpg, exceptional repair record over time, back lid or door, large luggage deck space/volume, diesel cost per mile equivalent to gasoline cost per mile, large installed base (parts availability), comfortable ride, 2 motive power systems in case one fails, and effective rust/corrosion protection. Gerry P.S. It's interesting reading the criticisms about Prius' when it's obvious the critics want a Prius but can't or won't buy a Prius. [:o) On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:44:57 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's what I was going to say -- I've gotten 53 MPG on the road, wife gets 35mpg in town. I love the DSG tranny - dual clutch trannys are cool --- On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8187 - Release Date: 09/10/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re- done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius and changing subjects
Careful, DImitri. You need to be kidnapped by the Toyota goon squad and reprogrammed. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not all electric cars are fruity. The Prius on the other hand Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:33 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *Ahem* Generalizations aren't always correct. (I drive an electric car; as previously discussed, it is perfect for the needs I lease it for... I'm definitely not a fruit, although I suppose whether or not I am a nut might be a matter for debate...) Btw, it costs me about $4 per hundred miles in energy costs; the average consumption in the first 720 miles, including my learning how to optimize my driving, and some driving by those who haven't figured out the magic of regenerative braking, is 3.5 mi/kWh. I am regularly getting 3.9-4.3 mi/kWh these days. The estimated range is 80-85mi (EPA is 63). I can't complain about it at all, especially being able to park and squeeze through impossible spots! I'll still take one of the W210.025's for any long trip or where there is need for more than 2 seats. OB MB content: The electric car is a smart ED. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 10, 2014, at 14:02, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: those electro cars are owned by fruits and nuts On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Let me suggest that apples and peaches have little to do with a Prius. RB On 09/09/2014 10:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: I'm sure there is at least one heritage and heirloom apple site on the internet, with pictures. You can indeed identify your tree by the apples. My boss up in Canada had some trees up the hill behind the house that I think were SnowQueen or Famouse (sp) -- one of the original named apples from ether England or France. The house was originally built before the American Revolution (Sailor's Encampment on St. Joseph's Island, Ontario), and I suspect from the condition and appearent age of the trees, they had been there since the place was built. Bright but darkish red skin with pronounced red streaks in the flesh, small, and the best tasting apples I've ever eaten. Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap used.one. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
A cheap used one is always a gamble. IIRC Peter has a 124 300D, perhaps an '87 at that. Does the '87 use a special turbo different than the other 124 300Ds? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap used.one. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
So is rebuilding it. R/R is a lot less labor intensive, and you can quickly determine whether the used part works or not. I have had good luck purchasing used turbos. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A cheap used one is always a gamble. IIRC Peter has a 124 300D, perhaps an '87 at that. Does the '87 use a special turbo different than the other 124 300Ds? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap used.one. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
My experience with used parts is that if they're not broken, they won't break. I should point out that my annual highway mileage is quite low, however. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So is rebuilding it. R/R is a lot less labor intensive, and you can quickly determine whether the used part works or not. I have had good luck purchasing used turbos. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A cheap used one is always a gamble. IIRC Peter has a 124 300D, perhaps an '87 at that. Does the '87 use a special turbo different than the other 124 300Ds? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap used.one. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
The W124 300D uses the same turbo as the 86-87 SDL, but not the same one as the later 300Ds with the 5 cylinder (those had servo controlled boost, not mechanical). Not very many around, and I'd not trust any used turbo, it would have to go and get checked out before I bothered to install it, no point in doing all that work for one just as bad as the one I took off. Two years worth of low volume cars, not gonna be many around. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
Rebuilding shouldn't be a gamble, a rebuilt unit should have a warranty. If it doesn't its not a reputable rebuilder. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild So is rebuilding it. R/R is a lot less labor intensive, and you can quickly determine whether the used part works or not. I have had good luck purchasing used turbos. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A cheap used one is always a gamble. IIRC Peter has a 124 300D, perhaps an '87 at that. Does the '87 use a special turbo different than the other 124 300Ds? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap used.one. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
It is nearly impossible to tell if a turbo is good just by looking at it or turning the compressor by hand. Really need to have someone with the proper tools measure bearing clearance , and if it's used it's gonna fail much sooner than one that has just been rebuilt. I'll look just for fun, but I'm betting there are none out there. Turbos for W123 cars are MUCH more common -- MB sold a ton of them. They quit selling diesels in the mid 80's because no one would even get in them, let alone test drive them because fuel was cheap and they wanted the biggest engine made. Go figure. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
Advertised rebuild price is $550, about what I expected since it cost me $400 or so 12 years ago when I did the one in the Volvo. Hopefully that won't be much worse from oil starvation damage, I'll probably haul it down tomorrow as my brother is doing the swap in the SDL tonight. Makes a huge difference when the boost works. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
Ebay has a used one (with manifolds, that I don't need, I have two sets already) for $450. For the extra couple hundred I'll get mine fixed, that way I know it's good! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
For that short distance nearly any hybrid or electric would do. Price would, of course, depend on year and condition. Personally, I wouldn't buy a pure electric since the price would be about the same or more than a hybrid, and their usefulness would be limited. Actually, for that short distance, the price premium you would pay for a hybrid or electric would not be economically worthwhile IMO. Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:59:35 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
An electric would be perfect for that distance. I'd lease a Leaf since its a real 4 seater and can be had for about the same price as a Smart. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. Sounds about right. I was thinking Peter mistyped 22 for 42, but I also thought Gerry's 40 minimum was off, especially in cold weather. It is speed dependent. I'm a right lane bandit on brief freeway jaunts, too lazy to pass unless I have to. One time last year I slowed to avoid a Priapism in front of me, when I looked down at the speedo I was doing 50 (in a 55 minimum speed zone) and still gaining on it, I figure it was doing about 45 or a little less. I sped back up to 60 and passed it. Driver was probably paying more attention to the MPG display than to the speedo. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? Too bad GM crushed all the Impacts. IIRC there are a few older Ford Rangers and Toyota RAV4s out there. VoltsRabbits might be an option, but quality would depend highly upon who built it. BTW, I saw a 4 door VW Rabbit (not a Golf) yesterday, the first one I'd seen in years. Didn't get a look at the headlights to see if it was US or German. 7-8 miles is a real nice bicycle distance, don't need to go to the gym if you do that twice a day in traffic. My old college roommate had exactly that commute for about 25 years and did the occasional long ride on weekends. Any day of the year he could just hop on his bike and go 100 miles, he was always in good shape and I think the commute had a LOT to do with it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: IIRC there are a few older Ford Rangers and Toyota RAV4s out there. RAV4s seem a bit steep: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/4632687513.html http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/ctd/4646038862.html http://search.ebay.com/191322297471 Fords are probably a bit cheaper, but this was the only current ad I could find on CL: http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4610669513.html Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT propane burners
Do we have anyone on here that knows anything about propane burners? We have acquired one of the turkey cooker units as my good wife is doing some canning and the enamel ware canner is not to be used on our smooth glass top stove in the kitchen. The burner works well to boil water in the canner but the flame is obviously not the way it ought ot be. There is too much yellow flame and the pot ends up rather sooty. I did a quick look on the web and there are some suggestions that cleaning up the rough casting of the burner unit will make it more efficient. I believe one of the other suggestions was to improve the windscreen around the burner unit. Anyone have any useful thoughts on the subject? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
All hybrids get worse long distance highway milage than the equivalent sized non-hybrid because you have an undersized engine dragging a huge battery with little or no regenerative braking -- when do you lift your foot completely off the gas on the interestate? That means you use battery power on upgrades and then have to recharge it, and you get NO recovery of energy by regenerative braking (which is where the high milage comes from, not the hybrid nature of the drive train). The weight of the car, rolling resistance, and the drag coefficient are the only determinants for milage on the highway once the battery is fully charged, and milage will drop to the low 30's or less, often to the mid 20's. Stop and go driving they will top 50, but then my brother's Jetta TDI tops 50 on the highway without the battery and all the other crap. Mid 40s in town, same as my 300d -- milage is only slightly different between highway and mixed suburban. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I've never leased a car before. What are th costs? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: An electric would be perfect for that distance. I'd lease a Leaf since its a real 4 seater and can be had for about the same price as a Smart. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
Buy a new burner, they are about $15 --try one of the Louisiana places. Or you can just get a new orifice, make sure it's one of the 0.040 ones. You have too much gas and not enough air, partially because the casing of the burner is rough, but mostly because the orifice is too large and the velocity through the mixing portion of the burner is too low, resulting in a yellow, sooty flame. Just did this for my burner, and a friend replaced his as well, suddenly we both have clean pots and less gas usage. In fact, mine is a bit lean, may have to drill it out a bit for better burning, it tends to blow out. Turkey friers tend to be VERY cheaply made. I use mine all the time for canning, mostly for blanching and boiling down tomatoes for sauce. It's great to get all that heat and water outside in the summer! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius and changing subjects
Too late! I've already notified them. [:o) Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:55:42 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful, DImitri. You need to be kidnapped by the Toyota goon squad and reprogrammed. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not all electric cars are fruity. The Prius on the other hand Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:33 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *Ahem* Generalizations aren't always correct. (I drive an electric car; as previously discussed, it is perfect for the needs I lease it for... I'm definitely not a fruit, although I suppose whether or not I am a nut might be a matter for debate...) Btw, it costs me about $4 per hundred miles in energy costs; the average consumption in the first 720 miles, including my learning how to optimize my driving, and some driving by those who haven't figured out the magic of regenerative braking, is 3.5 mi/kWh. I am regularly getting 3.9-4.3 mi/kWh these days. The estimated range is 80-85mi (EPA is 63). I can't complain about it at all, especially being able to park and squeeze through impossible spots! I'll still take one of the W210.025's for any long trip or where there is need for more than 2 seats. OB MB content: The electric car is a smart ED. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 10, 2014, at 14:02, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: those electro cars are owned by fruits and nuts On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Let me suggest that apples and peaches have little to do with a Prius. RB On 09/09/2014 10:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: I'm sure there is at least one heritage and heirloom apple site on the internet, with pictures. You can indeed identify your tree by the apples. My boss up in Canada had some trees up the hill behind the house that I think were SnowQueen or Famouse (sp) -- one of the original named apples from ether England or France. The house was originally built before the American Revolution (Sailor's Encampment on St. Joseph's Island, Ontario), and I suspect from the condition and appearent age of the trees, they had been there since the place was built. Bright but darkish red skin with pronounced red streaks in the flesh, small, and the best tasting apples I've ever eaten. Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the
[MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage regulator, that did not help. Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I'm going to have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing, I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
There should be an air adjuster on the unit, open it all the way and look around inside to see if a spider has built a nest. Apparently spiders love propane and they just love to crawl into propane burners. Once you get the nest cleared out you may have to play with the air adjustment a little to get things just right. We discovered at ChowdaQ (last year?) that any amount of wind is awful hard on those turkey friers (at least on Dwight's) and its hard to run them at anything less than full bore. For your needs full bore is probably fine though. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT propane burners Do we have anyone on here that knows anything about propane burners? We have acquired one of the turkey cooker units as my good wife is doing some canning and the enamel ware canner is not to be used on our smooth glass top stove in the kitchen. The burner works well to boil water in the canner but the flame is obviously not the way it ought ot be. There is too much yellow flame and the pot ends up rather sooty. I did a quick look on the web and there are some suggestions that cleaning up the rough casting of the burner unit will make it more efficient. I believe one of the other suggestions was to improve the windscreen around the burner unit. Anyone have any useful thoughts on the subject? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
I remember reading something about it in the not so distant past, IIRC parts availability was a big problem if diodes inside the alternator had failed. I rebuilt the starter/generator on my Cub Cadet 70 last winter but thats just 2 bearings and 2 brushes, easy. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage regulator, that did not help. Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I'm going to have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing, I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Volt? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Bike! --R On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried about being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Bike! --R On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Nah, I'd get too sweaty. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried about being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Bike! --R On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
I did this a long time ago on a Volvo 122S with success, so it could not have been too difficult; but back then such parts kits were readily available. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:20 AM To: Mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage regulator, that did not help. Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I'm going to have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing, I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Here's a little documentation on the Prius C (city car) as well as the standard Prius. http://priuschat.com/threads/real-world-highway-mpg-75-85-mph-speeds.131591/#axzz3D1oYth4e http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/showthread.php?99010-the-real-Prius-gas-mileage/page2s=aa218f2f49a790ff49a0fc9e9f6b49f2 On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:42:15 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All hybrids get worse long distance highway milage than the equivalent sized non-hybrid because you have an undersized engine dragging a huge battery with little or no regenerative braking -- when do you lift your foot completely off the gas on the interestate? That means you use battery power on upgrades and then have to recharge it, and you get NO recovery of energy by regenerative braking (which is where the high milage comes from, not the hybrid nature of the drive train). The weight of the car, rolling resistance, and the drag coefficient are the only determinants for milage on the highway once the battery is fully charged, and milage will drop to the low 30's or less, often to the mid 20's. Stop and go driving they will top 50, but then my brother's Jetta TDI tops 50 on the highway without the battery and all the other crap. Mid 40s in town, same as my 300d -- milage is only slightly different between highway and mixed suburban. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:19:48 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage regulator, that did not help. Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I was going to suggest taking it to your FLAPS to have them check it, but if you know it's dead, that's redundant. I'm going to have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing, I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator. If you can source the diodes, taking it apart and testing each of the diodes with an ohmmeter is a start. Once you have it open, you can see how the diodes are mounted and whether you can remove them (some diodes are press fit into their heatsinks). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I was a rear seat passenger in a Prius in Massachusetts a few years ago. Didn't much care for the busy dash lights and obstructed rear view. I would love to get a Leaf but used ones at a decent price are hard to find On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here's a little documentation on the Prius C (city car) as well as the standard Prius. http://priuschat.com/threads/real-world-highway-mpg-75-85-mph-speeds.131591/#axzz3D1oYth4e http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/showthread.php?99010-the-real-Prius-gas-mileage/page2s=aa218f2f49a790ff49a0fc9e9f6b49f2 On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:42:15 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All hybrids get worse long distance highway milage than the equivalent sized non-hybrid because you have an undersized engine dragging a huge battery with little or no regenerative braking -- when do you lift your foot completely off the gas on the interestate? That means you use battery power on upgrades and then have to recharge it, and you get NO recovery of energy by regenerative braking (which is where the high milage comes from, not the hybrid nature of the drive train). The weight of the car, rolling resistance, and the drag coefficient are the only determinants for milage on the highway once the battery is fully charged, and milage will drop to the low 30's or less, often to the mid 20's. Stop and go driving they will top 50, but then my brother's Jetta TDI tops 50 on the highway without the battery and all the other crap. Mid 40s in town, same as my 300d -- milage is only slightly different between highway and mixed suburban. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] MB vs. Prius
http://www.roadandtrack.com/features/web-originals/the-most-fuel-efficient-car-in-america-is-a-luxury-car If you're doing highway driving and not around town, the E250 looks like the way to go. Too bad MBUSA Doesn't import the stripped down taxi cab version. I'd be on that. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
I don't think there are any spider nests as I only bought this thing on Saturday and it came sealed in plastic. The air adjuster is wide open. It is supposedly a 55000 btu unit so I cannot run it wide open. Once the water boils I have to turn it down a lot to control the heat. I think the water would be splashing the lid off if I ran it flat out. And my 20# tank would be empty in no time. RB On 11/09/2014 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: There should be an air adjuster on the unit, open it all the way and look around inside to see if a spider has built a nest. Apparently spiders love propane and they just love to crawl into propane burners. Once you get the nest cleared out you may have to play with the air adjustment a little to get things just right. We discovered at ChowdaQ (last year?) that any amount of wind is awful hard on those turkey friers (at least on Dwight's) and its hard to run them at anything less than full bore. For your needs full bore is probably fine though. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT propane burners Do we have anyone on here that knows anything about propane burners? We have acquired one of the turkey cooker units as my good wife is doing some canning and the enamel ware canner is not to be used on our smooth glass top stove in the kitchen. The burner works well to boil water in the canner but the flame is obviously not the way it ought ot be. There is too much yellow flame and the pot ends up rather sooty. I did a quick look on the web and there are some suggestions that cleaning up the rough casting of the burner unit will make it more efficient. I believe one of the other suggestions was to improve the windscreen around the burner unit. Anyone have any useful thoughts on the subject? RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
How unique is the MB alternator? Would an alternator for some other vehicle fit? I know some of the folks into powerful car stereos change to much bigger alternators. I assume they are aftermarket items and not OEM. Would something like that retrofit to an MB without too much trouble? RB On 11/09/2014 1:58 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:19:48 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage regulator, that did not help. Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I was going to suggest taking it to your FLAPS to have them check it, but if you know it's dead, that's redundant. I'm going to have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing, I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator. If you can source the diodes, taking it apart and testing each of the diodes with an ohmmeter is a start. Once you have it open, you can see how the diodes are mounted and whether you can remove them (some diodes are press fit into their heatsinks). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
I'd still poke something around in through the air adjuster hole. For lantern cleaning I use the lump end of a zip tie. There could be a piece of casting flash or some sand or other schmegma inside. Otherwise its got a crappy oversized jet. Box it up and take it back. Then go on Craigslist and find either a Coleman 413 (2 burner) or 426 (3 burner) and a gallon of Coleman fuel. It'll be way more useful in the long run. If you insist on propane (which is fine) then find a propane model. Optimus and Primus (same company) made some units that were good too. They'll run off your 20 gallon bulk tank just fine. A stove will give you more control although your initial boil will take longer. It'll also be more useful if you found yourself without power sometime. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners I don't think there are any spider nests as I only bought this thing on Saturday and it came sealed in plastic. The air adjuster is wide open. It is supposedly a 55000 btu unit so I cannot run it wide open. Once the water boils I have to turn it down a lot to control the heat. I think the water would be splashing the lid off if I ran it flat out. And my 20# tank would be empty in no time. RB On 11/09/2014 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: There should be an air adjuster on the unit, open it all the way and look around inside to see if a spider has built a nest. Apparently spiders love propane and they just love to crawl into propane burners. Once you get the nest cleared out you may have to play with the air adjustment a little to get things just right. We discovered at ChowdaQ (last year?) that any amount of wind is awful hard on those turkey friers (at least on Dwight's) and its hard to run them at anything less than full bore. For your needs full bore is probably fine though. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT propane burners Do we have anyone on here that knows anything about propane burners? We have acquired one of the turkey cooker units as my good wife is doing some canning and the enamel ware canner is not to be used on our smooth glass top stove in the kitchen. The burner works well to boil water in the canner but the flame is obviously not the way it ought ot be. There is too much yellow flame and the pot ends up rather sooty. I did a quick look on the web and there are some suggestions that cleaning up the rough casting of the burner unit will make it more efficient. I believe one of the other suggestions was to improve the windscreen around the burner unit. Anyone have any useful thoughts on the subject? RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
I will have a look inside the casting. I intend to pull it apart and check the orifice size and the quality of the casting. I see on line that one can buy a better looking casting for not too much money. Would like to see if I can improve this one first however. We are not going to use it a lot but it would be nice if it did not make so much soot. I have a Coleman 2 burner stove that we have used for camping. You are correct that it would work. It just takes a while to get the water boiling. RB On 11/09/2014 3:21 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I'd still poke something around in through the air adjuster hole. For lantern cleaning I use the lump end of a zip tie. There could be a piece of casting flash or some sand or other schmegma inside. Otherwise its got a crappy oversized jet. Box it up and take it back. Then go on Craigslist and find either a Coleman 413 (2 burner) or 426 (3 burner) and a gallon of Coleman fuel. It'll be way more useful in the long run. If you insist on propane (which is fine) then find a propane model. Optimus and Primus (same company) made some units that were good too. They'll run off your 20 gallon bulk tank just fine. A stove will give you more control although your initial boil will take longer. It'll also be more useful if you found yourself without power sometime. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners I don't think there are any spider nests as I only bought this thing on Saturday and it came sealed in plastic. The air adjuster is wide open. It is supposedly a 55000 btu unit so I cannot run it wide open. Once the water boils I have to turn it down a lot to control the heat. I think the water would be splashing the lid off if I ran it flat out. And my 20# tank would be empty in no time. RB On 11/09/2014 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: There should be an air adjuster on the unit, open it all the way and look around inside to see if a spider has built a nest. Apparently spiders love propane and they just love to crawl into propane burners. Once you get the nest cleared out you may have to play with the air adjustment a little to get things just right. We discovered at ChowdaQ (last year?) that any amount of wind is awful hard on those turkey friers (at least on Dwight's) and its hard to run them at anything less than full bore. For your needs full bore is probably fine though. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT propane burners Do we have anyone on here that knows anything about propane burners? We have acquired one of the turkey cooker units as my good wife is doing some canning and the enamel ware canner is not to be used on our smooth glass top stove in the kitchen. The burner works well to boil water in the canner but the flame is obviously not the way it ought ot be. There is too much yellow flame and the pot ends up rather sooty. I did a quick look on the web and there are some suggestions that cleaning up the rough casting of the burner unit will make it more efficient. I believe one of the other suggestions was to improve the windscreen around the burner unit. Anyone have any useful thoughts on the subject? RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] commuting by bicycle (was: Re: Testing Prius)
just ride easier. that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less presentable than i usually am,... cheers! e On 11/Sep/14 10:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Nah, I'd get too sweaty. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried about being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Bike! --R On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
A coleman stove is way too small for canning, you likely need to boil a big vat of water (or cook down 15 quarts of tomatoes at once) and you need a BIG burner. The burners that come with turkey friers are often crap. I think I got my from some place with the word Cajun it the name, but I'm not sure. In Louisiana anyway, and they have replacement parts. A burner and orifice was pretty cheap. They are very sensitive to wind blowing down the air intake, though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
Funny, a lot of people can on their kitchen stove... People today are in such a hurry. A Coleman stove will boil big water, just use the right size stove which is why I suggested a 413 instead of a little 425. Lots of people don't know that Coleman made more than one size stove. In fact they made dozens, kitchen ranges too. The 460G Handy Gas plant has a 50,000 BTU burner and holds 3 gallons of gasoline, don't tell me it can't get the job done... -Curt From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners A coleman stove is way too small for canning, you likely need to boil a big vat of water (or cook down 15 quarts of tomatoes at once) and you need a BIG burner. The burners that come with turkey friers are often crap. I think I got my from some place with the word Cajun it the name, but I'm not sure. In Louisiana anyway, and they have replacement parts. A burner and orifice was pretty cheap. They are very sensitive to wind blowing down the air intake, though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
Turkey friers usually run 70,000 to 95,000 btu. Lotta heat. I don't use anywhere near that much for canning. Not to knock coleman stoves, but a propane burner is much more convenient if you also have a propane grill. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] multi-purpose stalk on '84 300D
Anyone have any testing clues as the headlight flashing (squeezing) function doesn't seem to work? It used to work, now all other functions of this stalk do work. TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle (was: Re: Testing Prius)
In Washington DC summers, a man on a bike can only go about three blocks before bursting into flame. It is even worse than down here in the Low Country. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 11, 2014 5:01 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: just ride easier. that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less presentable than i usually am,... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] multi-purpose stalk on '84 300D
Usually corroded contacts. If you can see them, spray them down with DeOxit or some other contact cleaner and cycle them a while, usually clears up the problem. Mine doesn't work on the 300D but I'm too lazy to fix them. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
I found an app to find cars at PnP. www.row52.com clay On Sep 11, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:19:48 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage regulator, that did not help. Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I was going to suggest taking it to your FLAPS to have them check it, but if you know it's dead, that's redundant. I'm going to have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing, I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator. If you can source the diodes, taking it apart and testing each of the diodes with an ohmmeter is a start. Once you have it open, you can see how the diodes are mounted and whether you can remove them (some diodes are press fit into their heatsinks). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
We have the flat smooth glass top stove so my wife does not want to use it. We have our previous stove in the basement but too much stuff around it to use it right now. Plus, all that steam etc inside is a bit much. Doing it outdoors seems the way to do it. I wish I had a bigger yard. I would consider building a summer kitchen like folks used to have. RB On 11/09/2014 5:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Funny, a lot of people can on their kitchen stove... People today are in such a hurry. A Coleman stove will boil big water, just use the right size stove which is why I suggested a 413 instead of a little 425. Lots of people don't know that Coleman made more than one size stove. In fact they made dozens, kitchen ranges too. The 460G Handy Gas plant has a 50,000 BTU burner and holds 3 gallons of gasoline, don't tell me it can't get the job done... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Prius are not cheep. The clapped out ones that were fleet cars sell for high KBB around here. they get painted yellow and become taxi. Used to be cop cars that got sold for that. Bottom price is above $6k for first gen clay On Sep 11, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle (was: Re: Testing Prius)
summer are brutal for riding. i really only ride about 6 or 7 months a year down here. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In Washington DC summers, a man on a bike can only go about three blocks before bursting into flame. It is even worse than down here in the Low Country. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 11, 2014 5:01 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: just ride easier. that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less presentable than i usually am,... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle (was: Re: Testing Prius)
I'd bicycle here but I have no desire to end up as a hood ornament. Only safe in groups, people drive like idiots and there is no shoulder, in fact usually a 3 to 6 drop off the pavement into a ditch. Used to bike all the time in graduate school, wish I still lived somewhere I could. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] multi-purpose stalk on '84 300D
check the fuse for the Optical Horn. cheers! e On 11/Sep/14 15:11, G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote: Anyone have any testing clues as the headlight flashing (squeezing) function doesn't seem to work? It used to work, now all other functions of this stalk do work. TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners
how big does the yard need to be? My cousin has a great little kitchen built with a smoker, mini fridge, large gas grill, sink, and scads of counter space. Maybe all of 8x8, stone walls and fiberglass roof. The flat part of the yard is 15x25, and surrounded by hilly garden. clay On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: We have the flat smooth glass top stove so my wife does not want to use it. We have our previous stove in the basement but too much stuff around it to use it right now. Plus, all that steam etc inside is a bit much. Doing it outdoors seems the way to do it. I wish I had a bigger yard. I would consider building a summer kitchen like folks used to have. RB On 11/09/2014 5:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Funny, a lot of people can on their kitchen stove... People today are in such a hurry. A Coleman stove will boil big water, just use the right size stove which is why I suggested a 413 instead of a little 425. Lots of people don't know that Coleman made more than one size stove. In fact they made dozens, kitchen ranges too. The 460G Handy Gas plant has a 50,000 BTU burner and holds 3 gallons of gasoline, don't tell me it can't get the job done... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
My experience repairing one was not good. My 79 300TD (123/617) had a bad diode in the rectifier. I bought a new rectifier and replaced the rectifier assembly (soldering required). The first new rectifier failed so replaced it again. The second new rectifier failed so then I bought e Bosch reman from Rusty. The rectifiers were about $40 each (as I recall) and the reman was about $100. The Bosch reman worked fine until I sold that car, years later. Based on that, I'll go for a factory reman next time and not ness with rebuilding it myself. Maybe Gary can tell us if quality factory remans are still available. But if just the regulator and/or brushes are bad, that's an easy DIY fix. I've replaced these in 123 and 126 Diesels from below without jacking the car. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:20 PM To: Mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage regulator, that did not help. Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I'm going to have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing, I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] turbo update 82 300td
Folks Well, i drove the car today It runs really well and is so quiet that i can again hear the turbo whine …. i think i could even get a speeding ticket, now … as always on WVO MUCH IMPROVED we'll see how the turbo does. I was dripping a few drops of oil on the lower drain side, but tightened the bolts a bit more lots of things to watch MY car has unknown mileage since the odometer doesn't work …. probably 350k with 90 or 100k on WVO thanks xx rick hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
When my alternator died on Gump, I found a great local shop to rebuild instead of getting a FLAPs unit. Superior job on the rebuild, enough that I installed in the SL after parting the w115. Cost was an initial consideration. This time I would have Gary, sexy parts seller to all right minded folks, ship me a part. Bound to be more cost effective when you do the install yourself. Core charge would make it less expensive too clay On Sep 11, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: My experience repairing one was not good. My 79 300TD (123/617) had a bad diode in the rectifier. I bought a new rectifier and replaced the rectifier assembly (soldering required). The first new rectifier failed so replaced it again. The second new rectifier failed so then I bought e Bosch reman from Rusty. The rectifiers were about $40 each (as I recall) and the reman was about $100. The Bosch reman worked fine until I sold that car, years later. Based on that, I'll go for a factory reman next time and not ness with rebuilding it myself. Maybe Gary can tell us if quality factory remans are still available. But if just the regulator and/or brushes are bad, that's an easy DIY fix. I've replaced these in 123 and 126 Diesels from below without jacking the car. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:20 PM To: Mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead. I've tried a new voltage regulator, that did not help. Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace? I'm going to have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing, I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
Thanks Craig, guess I've got to get dirty to find out what's possible. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 11, 2014 2:58 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you can source the diodes, taking it apart and testing each of the diodes with an ohmmeter is a start. Once you have it open, you can see how the diodes are mounted and whether you can remove them (some diodes are press fit into their heatsinks). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator
Thanks Scott, I think my alternator is a different model, I'll consider your tale and attempt to find quality parts if I end up going this route. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 11, 2014 8:07 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: My experience repairing one was not good. My 79 300TD (123/617) had a bad diode in the rectifier. I bought a new rectifier and replaced the rectifier assembly (soldering required). The first new rectifier failed so replaced it again. The second new rectifier failed so then I bought e Bosch reman from Rusty. The rectifiers were about $40 each (as I recall) and the reman was about $100. The Bosch reman worked fine until I sold that car, years later. Based on that, I'll go for a factory reman next time and not ness with rebuilding it myself. Maybe Gary can tell us if quality factory remans are still available. But if just the regulator and/or brushes are bad, that's an easy DIY fix. I've replaced these in 123 and 126 Diesels from below without jacking the car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] turbo update 82 300td
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] turbo update 82 300td Folks Well, i drove the car today It runs really well and is so quiet that i can again hear the turbo whine …. i think i could even get a speeding ticket, now … as always on WVO MUCH IMPROVED we'll see how the turbo does. I was dripping a few drops of oil on the lower drain side, but tightened the bolts a bit more lots of things to watch MY car has unknown mileage since the odometer doesn't work …. probably 350k with 90 or 100k on WVO thanks xx rick hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] turbo update 82 300td
thanks, man i'm sure most of the improvement was getting the manifolds attached and sealed correctly thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:13 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] turbo update 82 300td Folks Well, i drove the car today It runs really well and is so quiet that i can again hear the turbo whine …. i think i could even get a speeding ticket, now … as always on WVO MUCH IMPROVED we'll see how the turbo does. I was dripping a few drops of oil on the lower drain side, but tightened the bolts a bit more lots of things to watch MY car has unknown mileage since the odometer doesn't work …. probably 350k with 90 or 100k on WVO thanks xx rick hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] multi-purpose stalk on '84 300D
Huh? Wazzat? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:05 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: check the fuse for the Optical Horn. cheers! e On 11/Sep/14 15:11, G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote: Anyone have any testing clues as the headlight flashing (squeezing) function doesn't seem to work? It used to work, now all other functions of this stalk do work. TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] multi-purpose stalk on '84 300D
check the fuse for the Optical Horn. Huh? Wazzat? That's what DBAG calls the flash function on the stalk. It has its own fuse, though it's shared with other functions. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
