Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
What does top tier fuel mean? I was given to understand it all comes from the same place... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco When I was able to confirm that Costco sells Top Tier fuel I changed immediately. Their premium gas is consistently $.09-$0.12 a gallon cheaper than any of the Top Tier gas retailers (Shell, BP, Mobil). And we like that they pay their employees a living wage. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Somebody there told me they don't make much off the goods they sell, most of their profit is from the membership fees. I'm not quite sure how that works, I have the Exec membership, which costs like a $100, and I got $78 back this year on the rebate it comes with. They told me when I got it if I don't get the cost of it back they will credit it to me, but I have not gone and asked for it so I don't know. I guess I should try but I never remember to do it. Its a store credit, so not cash, but if you use it then you pay less cash. Costco stuff is indeed of considerable quality and the prices are lower or competitive on value, and if you have any issue whatsoever they will replace or refund no questions asked. You really can't go wrong. Gas is a lot cheaper too, usually like 10cents/gal. I had Sams in Houston as they were fairly close by, and it was OK but I like Costco better. --R On 3/2/15 3:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Well, although both Costco and Sam's are warehouse stores, I think their business models are very different. Disclaimer: I have never set foot in a Sam's, although I have a nephew who works for them. Costco has a reputation for selling high quality merchandise and foods at reasonable prices. Costco has a reputation for paying their employees well, and having very low turnover. Reportedly, Costco has resisted increasing their profit margin at the expense of consumers. I don't think Sam's shares these reputations. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Holy crap you're right, 480,000 deaths... Distracted driving is a mere distraction by comparison. -Curt From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML Curt wrote: ...that if you really want to prevent deaths work on fighting distracted driving and preventing heart disease... +1 And tobacco use. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Well, although both Costco and Sam's are warehouse stores, I think their business models are very different. Disclaimer: I have never set foot in a Sam's, although I have a nephew who works for them. Costco has a reputation for selling high quality merchandise and foods at reasonable prices. Costco has a reputation for paying their employees well, and having very low turnover. Reportedly, Costco has resisted increasing their profit margin at the expense of consumers. I don't think Sam's shares these reputations. Greg Well, here is a big difference: cosco ships your money to WA or OR, then ships it to china. Sams ships your money to AR, then ships it to china. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Like I told my class last week, there are about 30,000 gun related deaths in the US each year, about half of those are suicides. Some percentage of the other 15,000 were people shot by police and some percentage of that is suicide by cops but the statistics I've seen don't break that out. There are 300,000,000 or so people in the USA so every year .005 of them will be killed by guns in any given year. You can compare that to 610,000 people killed by heart attacks or 33,000 people killed in car crashes. So you're twice as likely to be killed in a car crash and 400 times more likely to have a heart attack but guns are crazy and must be restricted. If you read Freakonomics the guy says (and I think rightly, obviously since I'm talking about it) that if you really want to prevent deaths work on fighting distracted driving and preventing heart disease... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML Well, if they do shoot you, it will likely be someone you know, but of course in this instance, you do know him. Did I not read in the news very recently (this past weekend maybe?) about some family member who went house to house and killed about 5 of his family members? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
When I was able to confirm that Costco sells Top Tier fuel I changed immediately. Their premium gas is consistently $.09-$0.12 a gallon cheaper than any of the Top Tier gas retailers (Shell, BP, Mobil). And we like that they pay their employees a living wage. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Somebody there told me they don't make much off the goods they sell, most of their profit is from the membership fees. I'm not quite sure how that works, I have the Exec membership, which costs like a $100, and I got $78 back this year on the rebate it comes with. They told me when I got it if I don't get the cost of it back they will credit it to me, but I have not gone and asked for it so I don't know. I guess I should try but I never remember to do it. Its a store credit, so not cash, but if you use it then you pay less cash. Costco stuff is indeed of considerable quality and the prices are lower or competitive on value, and if you have any issue whatsoever they will replace or refund no questions asked. You really can't go wrong. Gas is a lot cheaper too, usually like 10cents/gal. I had Sams in Houston as they were fairly close by, and it was OK but I like Costco better. --R On 3/2/15 3:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Well, although both Costco and Sam's are warehouse stores, I think their business models are very different. Disclaimer: I have never set foot in a Sam's, although I have a nephew who works for them. Costco has a reputation for selling high quality merchandise and foods at reasonable prices. Costco has a reputation for paying their employees well, and having very low turnover. Reportedly, Costco has resisted increasing their profit margin at the expense of consumers. I don't think Sam's shares these reputations. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Well, if they do shoot you, it will likely be someone you know, but of course in this instance, you do know him. Did I not read in the news very recently (this past weekend maybe?) about some family member who went house to house and killed about 5 of his family members? RB On 02/03/2015 2:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I had two guys in class last week from Europe. It took a lot of statistical explaining for them to realize that most everything they thought they knew about the USA and guns was wrong. They kept saying but what we see on TV. and I kept telling them they should know better since they both work for TV stations... While we are all inundated with images of people being shot the chances of any single average person being shot is exceedingly small. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML On 02/03/2015 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: My neighbor has a friend who won't let anybody get his truck dirty. When you get in he wants you to close the door very gently, has a brush to clean your shoes with. You can't touch anything when you ride with him, he'd have to clean it afterward. Washes and details the truck every weekend.He got pissed when I wouldn't let him use my truck to haul home a washing machine. I told him to get out his testicles and actually use his truck as a truck rather than a compensator. He don't like me much which is okay since I don't like him either. -Curt Do bear in mind, that you folks are down there where people shoot each other for less provocation than this. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Curt wrote: ...that if you really want to prevent deaths work on fighting distracted driving and preventing heart disease... +1 And tobacco use. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Yeah but . . . . What was that school in New England where the fellow shot and killed a whole bunch of young children just a couple of years back? Those little kids were not likely to have heart attacks for another 50 years or so and unless the school bus got nailed by a dump truck, they were unlikely to die in a car crash on the way to school. If there were more restrictions on gun ownership over on your side of the border, then there would likely be fewer nut jobs who legally owned guns. We seem to have gone too far the other way. Legal gun owners here are essentially considered criminals unless they can prove otherwise. Our RCMP kick down doors and search houses and take away legally stored guns without excuse and heads don't roll over it. God help us all. RB On 02/03/2015 4:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Like I told my class last week, there are about 30,000 gun related deaths in the US each year, about half of those are suicides. Some percentage of the other 15,000 were people shot by police and some percentage of that is suicide by cops but the statistics I've seen don't break that out. There are 300,000,000 or so people in the USA so every year .005 of them will be killed by guns in any given year. You can compare that to 610,000 people killed by heart attacks or 33,000 people killed in car crashes. So you're twice as likely to be killed in a car crash and 400 times more likely to have a heart attack but guns are crazy and must be restricted. If you read Freakonomics the guy says (and I think rightly, obviously since I'm talking about it) that if you really want to prevent deaths work on fighting distracted driving and preventing heart disease... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML Well, if they do shoot you, it will likely be someone you know, but of course in this instance, you do know him. Did I not read in the news very recently (this past weekend maybe?) about some family member who went house to house and killed about 5 of his family members? RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
In Texas you have the illegals hauling a dozen people who wreck and kill a bunch and no one really cares, Happens quite often. Mostly due to stupidity, which apparently is a constitutional right. A lot of the gun murders are young black men killing one another, no one particularly cares because their guns are illegal or they are criminals, etc. Hard to regulate criminal behavior, and when it is tried, the media have fits. These multiple things are anecdotal but grab the headlines far more than their contribution to the total body count. Wasn't there some Canadian event a coupla weeks ago? --R On 3/2/15 5:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Well, if they do shoot you, it will likely be someone you know, but of course in this instance, you do know him. Did I not read in the news very recently (this past weekend maybe?) about some family member who went house to house and killed about 5 of his family members? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Yup toadass suck. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB Friends don't let friends drive toadas. Fireball deathtraps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Ok ya'll. Car had pressurized hoses this am. Took it for a short spin in town, temp remained cool. Popped hood, remove rad cap, revved engine and for the first time ever- bubbles in coolant! Yay, actually, CRAP! In my opinion car has a head issue! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:45 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Funny stuff! Did you have cafe au lait oil? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well yeah but I realized what had happened. I pulled the glow plugs and cranked it to get the water out. Put 'em back in and it ran. If I left the cap loose it wasn't a problem. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info You didn't end up hydro locking the engine? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The engine got repeatedly overheated. A couple times by the previous owner, once or twice by me, until the head gasket couldn't handle it anymore... That one was actually the best kind of head gasket failure, it just consumed some coolant and if you left the cap tight while the engine was off it would fill the cylinders with coolant. We drove it a few months like that until it needed injector return lines and I decided it wasn't worth it... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info How did the stuff ruin the head gasket? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had it plug a radiator which is annoying because the time I used it I was trying to plug a hole in a radiator. The previous owner of my MB wagon had used it for the same reason with the same failed results. In both cases it plugged thermostats. Then it becomes the gift that keeps on giving because its dammed hard to get the stuff back out... My '88 GMC I became super adept at replacing thermostats. In the end I could do it in 10 minutes and lose only a cup of coolant. I always traveled with a spare. Then when I got home I'd flush the cooling system AGAIN. I must have flushed the system 20 times in the 4 years I drove it after adding the stuff.My wagon I managed to do a better flush because I got all the stuff out and never clogged another thermostat but the damage was already done, the head gasket was toast. The car wasn't worth paying somebody to replace it and I didn't have the facilities, tools, knowledge or friends at that time to fix it myself... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info On 01/03/2015 4:55 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant system. And, in so doing will ruin the heater core and the radiator . . . RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
'Had to go on 100% emergency oxygen when I read the $69k and $72k. Developed a bad choking cough, too, with pain in left arm. Recovered enough to write a note. Wilton In 2007, when dodge was supposed to put the blujuce Dissels in the gran cheep and the grand caravan, but never put any in the caravan, I went to a nice little dodge stealer and asked about the grancheep. $70k I looked at him and told him for that money, I can buy a real Mercedes with a real Mercedes Diesel engine. Then I walked out. The guy's chin was on the floor. I shoulda kicked some dirt in it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
I forgot to mention that I had a student in class last month who has a Jeep with a VM Motori 3.0l v6 ecodiesel. She loves it. They spent something like $60k on it... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML 'Had to go on 100% emergency oxygen when I read the $69k and $72k. Developed a bad choking cough, too, with pain in left arm. Recovered enough to write a note. Wilton In 2007, when dodge was supposed to put the blujuce Dissels in the gran cheep and the grand caravan, but never put any in the caravan, I went to a nice little dodge stealer and asked about the grancheep. $70k I looked at him and told him for that money, I can buy a real Mercedes with a real Mercedes Diesel engine. Then I walked out. The guy's chin was on the floor. I shoulda kicked some dirt in it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
On 02/03/2015 4:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Curt wrote: ...that if you really want to prevent deaths work on fighting distracted driving and preventing heart disease... +1 And tobacco use. Over here, the government is reluctant to stop people from smoking because of the big tax dollars it brings in. They keep poking away at smokers by limiting where they can smoke but that is about the extent of the effort to slow it down or stop it. Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of young people who smoke - especially the girls. My younger son's wife smokes. We wish she would quit and hope that if they ultimately have children, she will stop during pregnancy and not start up again. It is no doubt difficult to stop and that might give her enough incentive to do so. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
It is my considered opinion the only place you will see a Prius in 30 years, if at all, is in a museum. On 3/2/15, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB Friends don't let friends drive toadas. Fireball deathtraps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB Friends don't let friends drive toadas. Fireball deathtraps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Does anyone know if I can use cylinder head that came from engine with 12 point head bolts on an engine which uses hex cylinder head bolts? Shop manual says that hex head bolts must be used in engine that came with such bolts but unclear if head from newer engines can be placed on old engine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Good thing you have another head... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
That's what I have been hearing all over the car business. They are supposed to be going to some Italian diesel I think. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sez who? I see a lot of posts talking about the v8 Cummins in the Titan originally being the one destined for the Dodge 1/2 ton but nothing about the i6 coming out of the heavier truck. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Cc: mercedes@okiebenz com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML Yes that is correct. The cummins will no longer be in the ram trucks starting in 2018. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel atypical...@gmail.com wrote: Cummins is dropping a v8 diesel into nissan's half ton i think. Maybe 2016? On Mar 2, 2015 8:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Good thing you have another head... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers
Mom was on the veggie bandwagon for a number of years, and ended up with pernicious anemia. Now she has severe neuropathy, needs meds, B12 shots, and occasionally eats red meat. The damage is done, and after seeing the results on her and on my sister, you would be hard pressed to convince me a vegan diet is not cruel and unusual torture. clay On Feb 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Lack of B12 is very serious -- in some cases, called pernicious anemia the body stops making the cofactor necessary for transport out of the small intestine into the blood stream. The result is severe anemia. This can result in permanent nerve damage, mental impairment, muscle weakness. Not good at all, a friend suffers from this and is only doing OK after six or seven years of injected B12. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Steering Wheel
Did some additional coats of vinyl paint today and it really came out nicely. Not sure what the deal was with the strange finish issues last night, but maybe letting it sit for a while then recoating did the trick. One thing that I found interesting: At the point where leather meets wood on the wheel, the leather pieces weren't seamed or stitched. That is, the edge of the piece of leather was just cut and appeared to be stuffed down in the joint between the wood and the wheel. If you look at the pictures, you'll notice a black band at the intersection of the wood and leather part of the wheel. This black material is formed with the rubber part of the wheel but it's soft and pliable, almost like putty. Here is a link to some pictures as promised. You can't really see the painted part that well, but trust me, it looks pretty decent now. Leather is scheduled to arrive on Thursday. In the meantime I need to get some polyester cord for the stitching. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3br78n3s1x57gsu/AACx1ZVWtAXKwrR9Z_ZZzTmqa?dl=0 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Guns and such, was ML
The fellow at the little people school was doing what childhood illness used to take care of. Now the no vax people are helping to solve the problem. More little kids get to be damaged and die. Too much cleanliness and do gooder thinking. Let the goobermunt take care of them. Call the cops. Used to be you were responsible for your own skin and had the troops deal with giant trouble like Nazis clay On Mar 2, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Yeah but . . . . What was that school in New England where the fellow shot and killed a whole bunch of young children just a couple of years back? Those little kids were not likely to have heart attacks for another 50 years or so and unless the school bus got nailed by a dump truck, they were unlikely to die in a car crash on the way to school. If there were more restrictions on gun ownership over on your side of the border, then there would likely be fewer nut jobs who legally owned guns. We seem to have gone too far the other way. Legal gun owners here are essentially considered criminals unless they can prove otherwise. Our RCMP kick down doors and search houses and take away legally stored guns without excuse and heads don't roll over it. God help us all. RB On 02/03/2015 4:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Like I told my class last week, there are about 30,000 gun related deaths in the US each year, about half of those are suicides. Some percentage of the other 15,000 were people shot by police and some percentage of that is suicide by cops but the statistics I've seen don't break that out. There are 300,000,000 or so people in the USA so every year .005 of them will be killed by guns in any given year. You can compare that to 610,000 people killed by heart attacks or 33,000 people killed in car crashes. So you're twice as likely to be killed in a car crash and 400 times more likely to have a heart attack but guns are crazy and must be restricted. If you read Freakonomics the guy says (and I think rightly, obviously since I'm talking about it) that if you really want to prevent deaths work on fighting distracted driving and preventing heart disease... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML Well, if they do shoot you, it will likely be someone you know, but of course in this instance, you do know him. Did I not read in the news very recently (this past weekend maybe?) about some family member who went house to house and killed about 5 of his family members? RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: FCC Net Neutrality
You might want to change the subject line or better yet, stay on topic. :) On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:48 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Osamacare is turning into a flaming turd in secondary ways for many of the people who can not afford mistakes. Seems the Washington Healthplan finder system in destroying families. There have been multitudes of issues with the computer not paying, or not showing the policy has been paid regularly. Sick people go to the doctor and learn they are not covered, but they had paid. System screws up and they are holding the bag. Costs are not being reimbursed. Thousands are run through the wringer. The latest screwing over has the computers jacking up the monthly fees that are sucked out of users accounts exponentially. The premium was supposed to be $200, and the computer then steals $1300 from their bank. The family now faces all manner of mischief. The osamacare plan takes multiple excess payments from their bank, wipes out their balance, and the banks ding them with NSF fees. Other auto pay accounts find the funds not there and more NSF fees are accrued. Mortgage payments bounce, more payments bounce, the next osamacare payment is missed, car payment bounces, the whole mess goes into the crapper. Family is now facing ruined credit, hassle from mortgage holder, car in repossession process, and the plan has been slow to give back the stolen funds. Did I mention that without money to pay bills or shop for groceries, the families are taking it in the pants. This is what comes from expecting a bureaucracy to be able to meet the needs of the individual. clay On Feb 27, 2015, at 5:50 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I'd love to hear the opinions on the subject line, especially from those of you who make a living in the IT industry. -- - Max Charleston SC It is a blatant power grab by the lame duck Dear Leader. The sheeple all stand by and let our rights slip away as the lil 'Dolfie consolidates and centralized power that is supposed to belong to the people. It is as much about net' and neutrality as the afffordable care act was about affordable health care. You like your ISP, you can Keep your ISP you will save $2500 etc It is all lies. Just like ACA, We can't find out what is in it until it is put in force by dictate. Where is the Act of Congress? it is about command and control. We lose choices and get regulated and taxed even more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions
They are underpowered for the chassis. #1 boy drives the early w140 version, which gets terrible mileage. May as well get a V8 and power, since you are not saving cash at the pump. That said, you will save on valve related things and heads, since there is but one. The '99 will have good wire harness, so that is a massive load off the shoulders. The car itself will be much the same as the more well appointed examples in quality. Fewer whistle to go south. The early example in the w140 was taxing on the transmission. By the '99, I think they worked that out, so you will have it mated much better so the engine is not over working the transmission while moving you down the road. It is a fairly stout motor. The 300se suffers from garbage wires, which are the biggest problem at the moment. There is a headgasket that wants changing, and a fair oil leak out the gasket at the moment. Early model is also NA, which I do not know if the later cars rectified with a turbo. Maybe not. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 27, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Anyone familiar with the inline six? I may go to Orlando tomorrow to look at this car. 1999 S320, approximately 180,000 miles, one owner Florida car. Dealer and indie maintained, most service records. Everything works, cosmetics look good, too. I realize the S320 won't have all the bells and whistles of an S500, but that's not a big deal to me. If anything, I'm most concerned about the engine, as I know nothing about how this vintage inline six. Anybody here familiar with them? Pitfalls? Things to look for? Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: FCC Net Neutrality
Osamacare is turning into a flaming turd in secondary ways for many of the people who can not afford mistakes. Seems the Washington Healthplan finder system in destroying families. There have been multitudes of issues with the computer not paying, or not showing the policy has been paid regularly. Sick people go to the doctor and learn they are not covered, but they had paid. System screws up and they are holding the bag. Costs are not being reimbursed. Thousands are run through the wringer. The latest screwing over has the computers jacking up the monthly fees that are sucked out of users accounts exponentially. The premium was supposed to be $200, and the computer then steals $1300 from their bank. The family now faces all manner of mischief. The osamacare plan takes multiple excess payments from their bank, wipes out their balance, and the banks ding them with NSF fees. Other auto pay accounts find the funds not there and more NSF fees are accrued. Mortgage payments bounce, more payments bounce, the next osamacare payment is missed, car payment bounces, the whole mess goes into the crapper. Family is now facing ruined credit, hassle from mortgage holder, car in repossession process, and the plan has been slow to give back the stolen funds. Did I mention that without money to pay bills or shop for groceries, the families are taking it in the pants. This is what comes from expecting a bureaucracy to be able to meet the needs of the individual. clay On Feb 27, 2015, at 5:50 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I'd love to hear the opinions on the subject line, especially from those of you who make a living in the IT industry. -- - Max Charleston SC It is a blatant power grab by the lame duck Dear Leader. The sheeple all stand by and let our rights slip away as the lil 'Dolfie consolidates and centralized power that is supposed to belong to the people. It is as much about net' and neutrality as the afffordable care act was about affordable health care. You like your ISP, you can Keep your ISP you will save $2500 etc It is all lies. Just like ACA, We can't find out what is in it until it is put in force by dictate. Where is the Act of Congress? it is about command and control. We lose choices and get regulated and taxed even more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Is that the cheep liberty wuss/yup mobile? I forgot to mention that I had a student in class last month who has a Jeep with a VM Motori 3.0l v6 ecodiesel. She loves it. They spent something like $60k on it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Nope, what ever replaced the grand Cherokee. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
The bluetec in grand Cherokee is the same as in the Mercedes. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 'Had to go on 100% emergency oxygen when I read the $69k and $72k. Developed a bad choking cough, too, with pain in left arm. Recovered enough to write a note. Wilton In 2007, when dodge was supposed to put the blujuce Dissels in the gran cheep and the grand caravan, but never put any in the caravan, I went to a nice little dodge stealer and asked about the grancheep. $70k I looked at him and told him for that money, I can buy a real Mercedes with a real Mercedes Diesel engine. Then I walked out. The guy's chin was on the floor. I shoulda kicked some dirt in it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Not any more, its the VM Motori like in the pickup. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
$15k is what my uncle Al paid for his brand new 1976 300d. That was the car that gave me the bug and peaked my interest in these awesome automobiles. He put 371K miles on it over 11 years. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It is not a problem, if your pockets are deep and you have long arms. I think someone once told me that my 300D would have sold for something like $15K back in 1976. That is why I did not have a new one then and am not likely to buy any new Mercedes today. RB On 02/03/2015 1:50 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote: 'Had to go on 100% emergency oxygen when I read the $69k and $72k. Developed a bad choking cough, too, with pain in left arm. Recovered enough to write a note. Wilton Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Goes to show you how closely I looked at it. They had a diesel and a gasser next to each other. The gasser was $69k and the diesel $72k, both sticker prices. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such,
Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers
Seattle is huge on the current bone soup craze. There was a full page in the paper dedicated to recipes and the latest thoughts on its goodness. Reminded me of Granny having a pot on the stove each week where she was drowning bones. That stuff smelled so good. No idea what all she used the stuff in. clay On Feb 27, 2015, at 10:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I don't think he meant bone meal, but soup bones boiled in stock to prepare soup. These are usually the bones left over after cutting meat into roasts, steaks, etc., then cut up into smaller pieces - again usually including the joints (hence the cartilage). This makes a great tasting beef soup. However, I'm not sure that eating cartilage is going to add it to your body, just as eating the cholesterol in eggs does not put cholesterol in your arteries. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:06 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mountain Man wrote: The lady said intestine and brain have gobs of cartilage and eating bone soup broth is excellent for health along with salt and fat. I can live with that...snip It's been long enough for the public to have forgotten about people eating bone products back in the '70s and then dying. The manufacturers had bought tons of Argentine beef bones because it was by far cheaper than other sources, and used it in the manufacture of various liquids, pills, and food products. The problem was that the Argentine bones had large amounts of (arsenic?). There had been many claims that bone calcium was more easily utilized in the body than other forms; plus other claims about it's health benefits, so there were many victims. This is the first time I've read anything about bone meal in the diet since then. As long as they don't use Argentine bone meal, it should be fine. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers
Greg wrote: WRT bones in soup: what I like to do with a chicken carcass when I make soup is to add a little vinegar to the water before boiling. It increases the acidity enough to help dissolve the calcium from the bones into the soup. Yup. Best if the bones sit in the vinegar water for an hour or so before heating the water. Then boil the bones, skin, fat, etc for many hours. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions
M104 in a w123 with a 5 speed sounds like a very interesting project! Hey wait a minute, I thought you were Mr. Originality!! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The M104 is a wonderful engine. I had one for years in my 95 E320 wagon. Smooth and powerful when you wind it out. I always thought it would make an awesome engine to swap into something else. Oddly enough, I have an opportunity to buy my old wagon back for cheap, now the the current teenage own is done smashing it into things. I'm kinda tempted to buy it back, part it out, and put the engine in a W123 with a 5 speed. Jaime On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyone familiar with the inline six? I may go to Orlando tomorrow to look at this car. 1999 S320, approximately 180,000 miles, one owner Florida car. Dealer and indie maintained, most service records. Everything works, cosmetics look good, too. I realize the S320 won't have all the bells and whistles of an S500, but that's not a big deal to me. If anything, I'm most concerned about the engine, as I know nothing about how this vintage inline six. Anybody here familiar with them? Pitfalls? Things to look for? Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
The bluetec in grand Cherokee is the same as in the Mercedes. yep, and 70K. For my $70k, I'll take the Mercedes behind door #1, not the cheep behind Door #2! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: FCC Net Neutrality
Osamacare is turning into a flaming turd in secondary ways for many of the people who can not afford mistakes. Seems the Washington Healthplan finder system in destroying families. There have been multitudes of issues with the computer not paying, or not showing the policy has been paid regularly. Sick people go to the doctor and learn they are not covered, but they had paid. System screws up and they are holding the bag. Costs are not being reimbursed. Thousands are run through the wringer. The latest screwing over has the computers jacking up the monthly fees that are sucked out of users accounts exponentially. The premium was supposed to be $200, and the computer then steals $1300 from their bank. The family now faces all manner of mischief. The osamacare plan takes multiple excess payments from their bank, wipes out their balance, and the banks ding them with NSF fees. Other auto pay accounts find the funds not there and more NSF fees are accrued. Mortgage payments bounce, more payments bounce, the next osamacare payment is missed, car payment bounces, the whole mess goes into the crapper. Family is now facing ruined credit, hassle from mortgage holder, car in repossession process, and the plan has been slow to give back the stolen funds. Did I mention that without money to pay bills or shop for groceries, the families are taking it in the pants. This is what comes from expecting a bureaucracy to be able to meet the needs of the individual. clay It is working exactly as designed. Massive screwups, resulting in a huge outcry form the sheeple. resulting in the goobermnt taking over fo da good of da chilluns ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers
WRT bones in soup: what I like to do with a chicken carcass when I make soup is to add a little vinegar to the water before boiling. It increases the acidity enough to help dissolve the calcium from the bones into the soup. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 5:41 PM To: Peter Frederick; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fat and Diet. was: Deadliest cars for drivers Mom was on the veggie bandwagon for a number of years, and ended up with pernicious anemia. Now she has severe neuropathy, needs meds, B12 shots, and occasionally eats red meat. The damage is done, and after seeing the results on her and on my sister, you would be hard pressed to convince me a vegan diet is not cruel and unusual torture. clay On Feb 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Lack of B12 is very serious -- in some cases, called pernicious anemia the body stops making the cofactor necessary for transport out of the small intestine into the blood stream. The result is severe anemia. This can result in permanent nerve damage, mental impairment, muscle weakness. Not good at all, a friend suffers from this and is only doing OK after six or seven years of injected B12. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
For reference, there are about 400,000 deaths from medical errors annually in the US, the third leading cause of death right after cancer and heart disease. -Original Message- From: Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML Like I told my class last week, there are about 30,000 gun related deaths in the US each year, about half of those are suicides. Some percentage of the other 15,000 were people shot by police and some percentage of that is suicide by cops but the statistics I've seen don't break that out. There are 300,000,000 or so people in the USA so every year .005 of them will be killed by guns in any given year. You can compare that to 610,000 people killed by heart attacks or 33,000 people killed in car crashes. So you're twice as likely to be killed in a car crash and 400 times more likely to have a heart attack but guns are crazy and must be restricted. If you read Freakonomics the guy says (and I think rightly, obviously since I'm talking about it) that if you really want to prevent deaths work on fighting distracted driving and preventing heart disease... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] E-Class fights back
https://autos.yahoo.com/news/car-thief-throws-brick-mercedes-throws-back-180050064.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Facts
If they (or most Americans, for that matter) understood the facts, they would be much less eager to surrender their freedoms. -Original Message- From: Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:55 PM I had two guys in class last week from Europe. It took a lot of statistical explaining for them to realize that most everything they thought they knew about the USA and guns was wrong. They kept saying but what we see on TV. and I kept telling them they should know better since they both work for TV stations... While we are all inundated with images of people being shot the chances of any single average person being shot is exceedingly small. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
V8? I thought it was a v6 into the Frontier. Turns out you're right, 5.0l v8: http://www.nissanusa.com/trucks/2016-titan/2016 they claim.-Curt From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net; mercedes@okiebenz com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML Cummins is dropping a v8 diesel into nissan's half ton i think. Maybe 2016? On Mar 2, 2015 8:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] ignorance is bliss.
http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/150226.html -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Yes that is correct. The cummins will no longer be in the ram trucks starting in 2018. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel atypical...@gmail.com wrote: Cummins is dropping a v8 diesel into nissan's half ton i think. Maybe 2016? On Mar 2, 2015 8:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Sez who? I see a lot of posts talking about the v8 Cummins in the Titan originally being the one destined for the Dodge 1/2 ton but nothing about the i6 coming out of the heavier truck. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Cc: mercedes@okiebenz com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML Yes that is correct. The cummins will no longer be in the ram trucks starting in 2018. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel atypical...@gmail.com wrote: Cummins is dropping a v8 diesel into nissan's half ton i think. Maybe 2016? On Mar 2, 2015 8:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Well, although both Costco and Sam's are warehouse stores, I think their business models are very different. Disclaimer: I have never set foot in a Sam's, although I have a nephew who works for them. Costco has a reputation for selling high quality merchandise and foods at reasonable prices. Costco has a reputation for paying their employees well, and having very low turnover. Reportedly, Costco has resisted increasing their profit margin at the expense of consumers. I don't think Sam's shares these reputations. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco Although functionally there is not a great deal of difference, they are different corporate entities. --R On 3/2/15 1:25 PM, Mike Esh wrote: Oh, yea, Costco--Sam's It must be Monday! Michael E. Esh michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 01:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, you are missing the difference between Costco and Sams --R On 3/2/15 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com mailto:michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___
Re: [MBZ] ML
My grandmother was a Cummins but unfortunately not of the engine family. My luck of the draw I guess. --R On 3/2/15 3:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yes that is correct. The cummins will no longer be in the ram trucks starting in 2018. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wittnebelatypical...@gmail.com wrote: Cummins is dropping a v8 diesel into nissan's half ton i think. Maybe 2016? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
On 02/03/2015 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: My neighbor has a friend who won't let anybody get his truck dirty. When you get in he wants you to close the door very gently, has a brush to clean your shoes with. You can't touch anything when you ride with him, he'd have to clean it afterward. Washes and details the truck every weekend.He got pissed when I wouldn't let him use my truck to haul home a washing machine. I told him to get out his testicles and actually use his truck as a truck rather than a compensator. He don't like me much which is okay since I don't like him either. -Curt Do bear in mind, that you folks are down there where people shoot each other for less provocation than this. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
No, he's in Massachusetts. --R On 3/2/15 3:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 02/03/2015 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: My neighbor has a friend who won't let anybody get his truck dirty. When you get in he wants you to close the door very gently, has a brush to clean your shoes with. You can't touch anything when you ride with him, he'd have to clean it afterward. Washes and details the truck every weekend.He got pissed when I wouldn't let him use my truck to haul home a washing machine. I told him to get out his testicles and actually use his truck as a truck rather than a compensator. He don't like me much which is okay since I don't like him either. -Curt Do bear in mind, that you folks are down there where people shoot each other for less provocation than this. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
I had two guys in class last week from Europe. It took a lot of statistical explaining for them to realize that most everything they thought they knew about the USA and guns was wrong. They kept saying but what we see on TV. and I kept telling them they should know better since they both work for TV stations... While we are all inundated with images of people being shot the chances of any single average person being shot is exceedingly small. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML On 02/03/2015 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: My neighbor has a friend who won't let anybody get his truck dirty. When you get in he wants you to close the door very gently, has a brush to clean your shoes with. You can't touch anything when you ride with him, he'd have to clean it afterward. Washes and details the truck every weekend.He got pissed when I wouldn't let him use my truck to haul home a washing machine. I told him to get out his testicles and actually use his truck as a truck rather than a compensator. He don't like me much which is okay since I don't like him either. -Curt Do bear in mind, that you folks are down there where people shoot each other for less provocation than this. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Costco also has a pharmacy with good deals on Rxs for people w/o insurance... On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, although both Costco and Sam's are warehouse stores, I think their business models are very different. Disclaimer: I have never set foot in a Sam's, although I have a nephew who works for them. Costco has a reputation for selling high quality merchandise and foods at reasonable prices. Costco has a reputation for paying their employees well, and having very low turnover. Reportedly, Costco has resisted increasing their profit margin at the expense of consumers. I don't think Sam's shares these reputations. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco Although functionally there is not a great deal of difference, they are different corporate entities. --R On 3/2/15 1:25 PM, Mike Esh wrote: Oh, yea, Costco--Sam's It must be Monday! Michael E. Esh michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 01:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, you are missing the difference between Costco and Sams --R On 3/2/15 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com mailto:michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are
Re: [MBZ] ML
Plenty of guns in MA. That guy wouldn't shoot me with HIS gun though, it might get dirty, he'd ask to borrow mine. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML No, he's in Massachusetts. --R On 3/2/15 3:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 02/03/2015 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: My neighbor has a friend who won't let anybody get his truck dirty. When you get in he wants you to close the door very gently, has a brush to clean your shoes with. You can't touch anything when you ride with him, he'd have to clean it afterward. Washes and details the truck every weekend.He got pissed when I wouldn't let him use my truck to haul home a washing machine. I told him to get out his testicles and actually use his truck as a truck rather than a compensator. He don't like me much which is okay since I don't like him either. -Curt Do bear in mind, that you folks are down there where people shoot each other for less provocation than this. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Somebody there told me they don't make much off the goods they sell, most of their profit is from the membership fees. I'm not quite sure how that works, I have the Exec membership, which costs like a $100, and I got $78 back this year on the rebate it comes with. They told me when I got it if I don't get the cost of it back they will credit it to me, but I have not gone and asked for it so I don't know. I guess I should try but I never remember to do it. Its a store credit, so not cash, but if you use it then you pay less cash. Costco stuff is indeed of considerable quality and the prices are lower or competitive on value, and if you have any issue whatsoever they will replace or refund no questions asked. You really can't go wrong. Gas is a lot cheaper too, usually like 10cents/gal. I had Sams in Houston as they were fairly close by, and it was OK but I like Costco better. --R On 3/2/15 3:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Well, although both Costco and Sam's are warehouse stores, I think their business models are very different. Disclaimer: I have never set foot in a Sam's, although I have a nephew who works for them. Costco has a reputation for selling high quality merchandise and foods at reasonable prices. Costco has a reputation for paying their employees well, and having very low turnover. Reportedly, Costco has resisted increasing their profit margin at the expense of consumers. I don't think Sam's shares these reputations. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter
Tell me about it. As I write this I'm headed to buy ten gallons of kerosene to keep the oil tank from running out till I get my next delivery. $1000 per month this winter in oil. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Every morning when I wake up, I look out the window to check Dimitri’s chimney. If his house were a steam locomotive, it’d be moving down the tracks at 90mph! On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:41 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh shut it! :) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Should I mention that we had to turn on the AC today? Guess not Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . . Too bad I use charcoal. My goal was to get the tank under 50 gallons without running out this winter. December/January were so cold that I panicked a bit and used the air-air heat pump too much. When January ended I bumped raised the switchover temp to 30° to get rid of some LP, burned more of it in February than in Nov-Dec-Jan combined. Probably ran the heat pump less than 50 hours all month. I should just set the switchover temp to 20 or 25 and manually turn on aux heat when I want a quick recovery from overnight setback. mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Subject:1986 300SDL CL
Given the body damage and faded paint, a little high, but worth looking at. If he has complete maintenance/repair records, and if the head isn't cracked, could be a nice deal. Any hint of rust, drop a few thousand off that price. Too bad it has the 8.5 Qt engine... ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter
Every morning when I wake up, I look out the window to check Dimitri’s chimney. If his house were a steam locomotive, it’d be moving down the tracks at 90mph! On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:41 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh shut it! :) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Should I mention that we had to turn on the AC today? Guess not Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . . Too bad I use charcoal. My goal was to get the tank under 50 gallons without running out this winter. December/January were so cold that I panicked a bit and used the air-air heat pump too much. When January ended I bumped raised the switchover temp to 30° to get rid of some LP, burned more of it in February than in Nov-Dec-Jan combined. Probably ran the heat pump less than 50 hours all month. I should just set the switchover temp to 20 or 25 and manually turn on aux heat when I want a quick recovery from overnight setback. mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OK What do you think?
Leased a 2014 Touareg diesel end of last year, similar reasons. Very nice. Fancy as any Mercedes. She loves it. I would never want to own a new Mercedes. People who don't have time for repairs only drive them for a few years until they start to become a nightmare, and then lease a new one. Ditto for BMW - been down that road. Gwagen/Steyr is a solid long term choice for DIY types, but it is a truck. US versions probably not the most economical choice at 13mpg for 30k miles a year. Has a long-term DIY cult around it, sort of like this list =:-) It is totally unlike an x5 or GL/M. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would agree with your observations regarding values, however, the SL people I know are realists and understand that their cars are, for the most part, pretty much worthless. I paid $5k for a 1997 with 71,000 miles on it a little more than a year ago. Everything on it was in excellent shape, except for the hydraulics. I spent $700 to replace all 11 cylinders with rebuilds from the best rebuilder in the country. For grins I put it on CL here in September or October for $7,500 just to see what would happen. I got a couple of serious lowballers that harassed me constantly over it. I think the highest one wanted to offer me $4500 for it. I had to put CL on his ass because he kept emailing me after I took the listing down. There was a guy who showed up on Benzworld one day with a 1991 SL500 that had something like 3000 miles on it. It was a true garage queen that he had purchased new and barely drove, only in the summer and in dry weather (he lived in SE PA somewhere, I believe.) The car developed some sort of erosion on the block at the head mating surface, causing a head gasket leak. Only fix based on his mechanic and the MB dealer’s diagnosis was to pull the engine, strip it down, weld up the defect and machine the surface. He wanted to sell it as-is. He told us that he was thinking $25k was a fair price, considering the condition and low miles - it truly looked like it had just rolled off the showroom floor. He may have even put it on eBay, I don’t recall. The majority of us encouraged him to have the repairs made and just drive it. He thought he could walk away from it with a big payday. We tried to convince him that in today’s market the car would barely be worth what he wanted if it was 100% intact. Never heard any more. Not sure what he did. R129s are fun cars, but you don’t buy one to make money on it. I figure mine will be around long enough for the grandkids to drive, mebbe. Dan On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:25 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: panzerwagon owners are seriously deluded about the value of their roadsters. Those cars are not going to rise in price for ages. There are too many beat to crap examples and too few set up like new to get the prices asked. Nobody will be willing to throw the money needed to restore them to #1, as you would a w113. I am going out on a limb and say the way these go up in price is as unrestored/preservation class examples. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Nope Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter
Oh shut it! :) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Should I mention that we had to turn on the AC today? Guess not Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 19:30:48 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 400 gallons of propane that I have will be burned in the grill . . . Too bad I use charcoal. My goal was to get the tank under 50 gallons without running out this winter. December/January were so cold that I panicked a bit and used the air-air heat pump too much. When January ended I bumped raised the switchover temp to 30° to get rid of some LP, burned more of it in February than in Nov-Dec-Jan combined. Probably ran the heat pump less than 50 hours all month. I should just set the switchover temp to 20 or 25 and manually turn on aux heat when I want a quick recovery from overnight setback. mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Steering Wheel Refurb
Got my $20 steering wheel on Saturday. Got the remains of the leather off of it. One side is intact, so I should have a good pattern to work from. The wood parts are in pretty good shape. There are some cracks, but the wood is solid and nothing is loose or lifted around the cracked parts. I got some vinyl paint from the local FLAPS yesterday and had at it. I cleaned the wheel with solvent and masked off the non-covered portions. I was able to lay down several thin coats last night, but I'm not 100% pleased with the results. The finish I chose was glossy, but in some areas it's dull. There doesn't seem to be a pattern, but after a light coat the same areas show up dull. Hmm. Ebay is the place for leather scraps. I found some really nice black leather of the proper weight for about $18 shipped for a little over 2-1/2 square feet, which should be plenty. That would arrive on Thursday. I did take pictures which I'll link to tonight. By the time I'm done with everything I'm thinking I'll have under $60 in this. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Yeah I think they do. They started with the 150 and will be rolling them into the other weights. That is a lot of ching for a truck though, no matter how nice. I guess I'll keep my 96 Chebby going a few decades more. --R On 3/2/15 11:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Beats me. I really didn't look that closely at it, as I have no interest in trucks of any sort. I knew pickups were expensive these day, but holy cow! You could buy a pretty nice MB for that kind of coin. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: But that has the new super light aluminium body, right? On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Did you fill it with gas? --R On 3/2/15 11:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I used an unbranded Amex car at Costco without any problems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
I presume it means that Citi will issue a branded card for Costco members with perks, much like the former AMEX card they offered. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ISO decent used W123 RF turn signal lens
Fred, Check's in the mail. I love the new orange lens even though it does not match the yellow lens on tghe other side. I'd like to purchase the correpsonding driver's side turn signal lens (orange) as well if you have one. I'd give you $25 for it. Thanks, Andrew On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That was a very speedy camel cart - the lens arrived today and it's beautiful. :) I'll mail you a check unless you'd prefer a123 part instead. If so, let me know what you need. Thanks a ton, Andrew On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew.It's on the way. Camel cart. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:43:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ISO decent used W123 RF turn signal lens From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Fred, Great - thanks!. I'm at 7913 Cypress Grove Lane, Cabin John, MD 20818. Please make sure it's the passenger side lens. I'll send you a check or something you may need, that I have. Let me know. Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Beats me. I really didn't look that closely at it, as I have no interest in trucks of any sort. I knew pickups were expensive these day, but holy cow! You could buy a pretty nice MB for that kind of coin. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: But that has the new super light aluminium body, right? On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
I had an STX down to $28k last fall. I offered $25k but he wouldn't budge. One thing I found interesting was that neither of the dealers near us had the ecoboost engines in many trucks. I'd wanted to try one but they always countered with nobody buys those. Well sure, nobody buys the trucks you don't have... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter
We had our first real ice storm yesterday. Started as snow then rained hard with temps. below freezing. Today was a wintry wonderland, but it's gotten warmer so I was ably to safely commute. Andrew (DC Area) On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Peter wrote: One more blast of cold air and low temps below 10F and I think winter is done. I hope you're right Peter. Two miserable winters in a row is enough for a few years... I'm ready for spring. That would make at least two of us. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
I used an unbranded Amex car at Costco without any problems. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I presume it means that Citi will issue a branded card for Costco members with perks, much like the former AMEX card they offered. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
But that has the new super light aluminium body, right? On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
I'm reasonably sure Ford doesn't offer a diesel in the F150 in the USA, only the F250 and higher. There are 3 engines for the F150, the 2.7l ecoboost v6, 3.5l ecoboost v6 and venerable 5.0l v8. They might still offer a non-turbo v6 but I'm not sure. None of the above are to be confused with Dodge's ecodiesel. I read the other night where Chevy is planning a diesel 4cyl for the new Colorado with speculation this might lead to a 30mpg pickup... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML But that has the new super light aluminium body, right? On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Goes to show you how closely I looked at it. They had a diesel and a gasser next to each other. The gasser was $69k and the diesel $72k, both sticker prices. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
LOL. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did you fill it with gas? --R On 3/2/15 11:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I used an unbranded Amex car at Costco without any problems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Costco accepts any debit cards but only the Amex CREDIT card. --R On 3/2/15 10:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB On 01/03/2015 3:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power outages. Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and some have to be backordered. Reminds me of the Beetles, those well hated German cars, during the '50s and '60s. You guys might as well get used to hyrid cars and pure electrics since all the manufacturers are making them; even Mercedes. Toyota was just the first with a good one. I don't love any car; I just like them when they do what they are supposed to do. Gerry BTW, I just had a local retiree offer me $5000 for my (R.I.P.) wifes pristine '83 240D that she dearly loved. I turned him down. Its too much like a member of the family. Dwight Giles wrote: _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
On 01/03/2015 4:55 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant system. And, in so doing will ruin the heater core and the radiator . . . RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I've never been real excited about how they rode either, the Prius in particular has quite hard seats... Interestingly some people have fantastic results and keep them going forever to stupid high mileages. I dated a girl who had a Chevy Nova (rebadged Toyota Tercel I think it was) that had over 300,000 miles. I asked and she told me they'd replaced the clutch once... It was a crapbox of a car in every regard but they sure wound the mileage onto it.Other people have truly rotten luck with them, no mileage, major failures at massive expense. Its an interesting spread. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB On 01/03/2015 3:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power outages. Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and some have to be backordered. Reminds me of the Beetles, those well hated German cars, during the '50s and '60s. You guys might as well get used to hyrid cars and pure electrics since all the manufacturers are making them; even Mercedes. Toyota was just the first with a good one. I don't love any car; I just like them when they do what they are supposed to do. Gerry BTW, I just had a local retiree offer me $5000 for my (R.I.P.) wifes pristine '83 240D that she dearly loved. I turned him down. Its too much like a member of the family. Dwight Giles wrote: _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I've never had it plug a radiator which is annoying because the time I used it I was trying to plug a hole in a radiator. The previous owner of my MB wagon had used it for the same reason with the same failed results. In both cases it plugged thermostats. Then it becomes the gift that keeps on giving because its dammed hard to get the stuff back out... My '88 GMC I became super adept at replacing thermostats. In the end I could do it in 10 minutes and lose only a cup of coolant. I always traveled with a spare. Then when I got home I'd flush the cooling system AGAIN. I must have flushed the system 20 times in the 4 years I drove it after adding the stuff.My wagon I managed to do a better flush because I got all the stuff out and never clogged another thermostat but the damage was already done, the head gasket was toast. The car wasn't worth paying somebody to replace it and I didn't have the facilities, tools, knowledge or friends at that time to fix it myself... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info On 01/03/2015 4:55 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant system. And, in so doing will ruin the heater core and the radiator . . . RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Just what I need. A $71,000 truck to haul the groceries home with, which now cost triple what they did 8 years ago.. For that kind of money, I can buy an up-armored retired military vehicle [with diesel engine of course] and provide some real protection for those groceries.. What next? Refrigerators with bank vault doors to protect the two slices of bacon you could afford to buy after buying the $71,000 truck? Progress, some days I can barely recognize it... It makes me want to laugh till I cry. On 3/2/15, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Goes to show you how closely I looked at it. They had a diesel and a gasser next to each other. The gasser was $69k and the diesel $72k, both sticker prices. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
How did the stuff ruin the head gasket? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had it plug a radiator which is annoying because the time I used it I was trying to plug a hole in a radiator. The previous owner of my MB wagon had used it for the same reason with the same failed results. In both cases it plugged thermostats. Then it becomes the gift that keeps on giving because its dammed hard to get the stuff back out... My '88 GMC I became super adept at replacing thermostats. In the end I could do it in 10 minutes and lose only a cup of coolant. I always traveled with a spare. Then when I got home I'd flush the cooling system AGAIN. I must have flushed the system 20 times in the 4 years I drove it after adding the stuff.My wagon I managed to do a better flush because I got all the stuff out and never clogged another thermostat but the damage was already done, the head gasket was toast. The car wasn't worth paying somebody to replace it and I didn't have the facilities, tools, knowledge or friends at that time to fix it myself... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info On 01/03/2015 4:55 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant system. And, in so doing will ruin the heater core and the radiator . . . RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
The engine got repeatedly overheated. A couple times by the previous owner, once or twice by me, until the head gasket couldn't handle it anymore... That one was actually the best kind of head gasket failure, it just consumed some coolant and if you left the cap tight while the engine was off it would fill the cylinders with coolant. We drove it a few months like that until it needed injector return lines and I decided it wasn't worth it... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info How did the stuff ruin the head gasket? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had it plug a radiator which is annoying because the time I used it I was trying to plug a hole in a radiator. The previous owner of my MB wagon had used it for the same reason with the same failed results. In both cases it plugged thermostats. Then it becomes the gift that keeps on giving because its dammed hard to get the stuff back out... My '88 GMC I became super adept at replacing thermostats. In the end I could do it in 10 minutes and lose only a cup of coolant. I always traveled with a spare. Then when I got home I'd flush the cooling system AGAIN. I must have flushed the system 20 times in the 4 years I drove it after adding the stuff.My wagon I managed to do a better flush because I got all the stuff out and never clogged another thermostat but the damage was already done, the head gasket was toast. The car wasn't worth paying somebody to replace it and I didn't have the facilities, tools, knowledge or friends at that time to fix it myself... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info On 01/03/2015 4:55 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant system. And, in so doing will ruin the heater core and the radiator . . . RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
IIRC, you can use MC or Visa debit cards at Sam's, but NOT Visa credit cards, only MC. I am almost 100% positive of this, as I've tried to use my dual function Visa at Sam's as a credit card and they won't do it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
You didn't end up hydro locking the engine? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The engine got repeatedly overheated. A couple times by the previous owner, once or twice by me, until the head gasket couldn't handle it anymore... That one was actually the best kind of head gasket failure, it just consumed some coolant and if you left the cap tight while the engine was off it would fill the cylinders with coolant. We drove it a few months like that until it needed injector return lines and I decided it wasn't worth it... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info How did the stuff ruin the head gasket? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had it plug a radiator which is annoying because the time I used it I was trying to plug a hole in a radiator. The previous owner of my MB wagon had used it for the same reason with the same failed results. In both cases it plugged thermostats. Then it becomes the gift that keeps on giving because its dammed hard to get the stuff back out... My '88 GMC I became super adept at replacing thermostats. In the end I could do it in 10 minutes and lose only a cup of coolant. I always traveled with a spare. Then when I got home I'd flush the cooling system AGAIN. I must have flushed the system 20 times in the 4 years I drove it after adding the stuff.My wagon I managed to do a better flush because I got all the stuff out and never clogged another thermostat but the damage was already done, the head gasket was toast. The car wasn't worth paying somebody to replace it and I didn't have the facilities, tools, knowledge or friends at that time to fix it myself... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info On 01/03/2015 4:55 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant system. And, in so doing will ruin the heater core and the radiator . . . RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Cash still works. From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco i am very unenthused about applying for yet another credit card. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: IIRC, you can use MC or Visa debit cards at Sam's, but NOT Visa credit cards, only MC. I am almost 100% positive of this, as I've tried to use my dual function Visa at Sam's as a credit card and they won't do it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
The passages in the heater core and radiator are pretty small and these sorts of problems usually occur in older vehicles that are likely already partly plugged up. I used some of the rad seal junk in my 68 Chevy pickup and ended up with it overheating before very long. I had to have the rad recored and the heater core flushed out. I swore I would never use that stuff again. I suppose if I was a long way from home with a leak of sorts and just needed to get home, I might be tempted but if I was near home, I would never put anything like that in my vehicle. RB On 02/03/2015 11:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've never had it plug a radiator which is annoying because the time I used it I was trying to plug a hole in a radiator. The previous owner of my MB wagon had used it for the same reason with the same failed results. In both cases it plugged thermostats. Then it becomes the gift that keeps on giving because its dammed hard to get the stuff back out... My '88 GMC I became super adept at replacing thermostats. In the end I could do it in 10 minutes and lose only a cup of coolant. I always traveled with a spare. Then when I got home I'd flush the cooling system AGAIN. I must have flushed the system 20 times in the 4 years I drove it after adding the stuff.My wagon I managed to do a better flush because I got all the stuff out and never clogged another thermostat but the damage was already done, the head gasket was toast. The car wasn't worth paying somebody to replace it and I didn't have the facilities, tools, knowledge or friends at that time to fix it myself... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info On 01/03/2015 4:55 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant system. And, in so doing will ruin the heater core and the radiator . . . RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Yes, you are missing the difference between Costco and Sams --R On 3/2/15 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Well yeah but I realized what had happened. I pulled the glow plugs and cranked it to get the water out. Put 'em back in and it ran. If I left the cap loose it wasn't a problem. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info You didn't end up hydro locking the engine? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The engine got repeatedly overheated. A couple times by the previous owner, once or twice by me, until the head gasket couldn't handle it anymore... That one was actually the best kind of head gasket failure, it just consumed some coolant and if you left the cap tight while the engine was off it would fill the cylinders with coolant. We drove it a few months like that until it needed injector return lines and I decided it wasn't worth it... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info How did the stuff ruin the head gasket? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had it plug a radiator which is annoying because the time I used it I was trying to plug a hole in a radiator. The previous owner of my MB wagon had used it for the same reason with the same failed results. In both cases it plugged thermostats. Then it becomes the gift that keeps on giving because its dammed hard to get the stuff back out... My '88 GMC I became super adept at replacing thermostats. In the end I could do it in 10 minutes and lose only a cup of coolant. I always traveled with a spare. Then when I got home I'd flush the cooling system AGAIN. I must have flushed the system 20 times in the 4 years I drove it after adding the stuff.My wagon I managed to do a better flush because I got all the stuff out and never clogged another thermostat but the damage was already done, the head gasket was toast. The car wasn't worth paying somebody to replace it and I didn't have the facilities, tools, knowledge or friends at that time to fix it myself... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info On 01/03/2015 4:55 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: March 1, 2015 at 4:48:56 PM EST To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info If I discover a head leak I will pour some of that leak sealer in the coolant system. And, in so doing will ruin the heater core and the radiator . . . RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
HA! -CurtWho would have sent exactly the same email if Rich hadn't beat me to it. From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco Yes, you are missing the difference between Costco and Sams --R On 3/2/15 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
i am very unenthused about applying for yet another credit card. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: IIRC, you can use MC or Visa debit cards at Sam's, but NOT Visa credit cards, only MC. I am almost 100% positive of this, as I've tried to use my dual function Visa at Sam's as a credit card and they won't do it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
Oh, yea, Costco--Sam's It must be Monday! Michael E. Esh michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 01:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, you are missing the difference between Costco and Sams --R On 3/2/15 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
'Had to go on 100% emergency oxygen when I read the $69k and $72k. Developed a bad choking cough, too, with pain in left arm. Recovered enough to write a note. Wilton Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Goes to show you how closely I looked at it. They had a diesel and a gasser next to each other. The gasser was $69k and the diesel $72k, both sticker prices. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Wilton: ATTABOY! On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It is not a problem, if your pockets are deep and you have long arms. I think someone once told me that my 300D would have sold for something like $15K back in 1976. That is why I did not have a new one then and am not likely to buy any new Mercedes today. RB On 02/03/2015 1:50 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote: 'Had to go on 100% emergency oxygen when I read the $69k and $72k. Developed a bad choking cough, too, with pain in left arm. Recovered enough to write a note. Wilton Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Goes to show you how closely I looked at it. They had a diesel and a gasser next to each other. The gasser was $69k and the diesel $72k, both sticker prices. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To
Re: [MBZ] ML
It is not a problem, if your pockets are deep and you have long arms. I think someone once told me that my 300D would have sold for something like $15K back in 1976. That is why I did not have a new one then and am not likely to buy any new Mercedes today. RB On 02/03/2015 1:50 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote: 'Had to go on 100% emergency oxygen when I read the $69k and $72k. Developed a bad choking cough, too, with pain in left arm. Recovered enough to write a note. Wilton Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Goes to show you how closely I looked at it. They had a diesel and a gasser next to each other. The gasser was $69k and the diesel $72k, both sticker prices. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco
I think they will just give you one. but then you have to deal with it. Debit works in the self-serve lanes but cash you have to deal with a human --R On 3/2/15 1:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Cash still works. From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - CITI Replaces AMEX @ Costco i am very unenthused about applying for yet another credit card. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: IIRC, you can use MC or Visa debit cards at Sam's, but NOT Visa credit cards, only MC. I am almost 100% positive of this, as I've tried to use my dual function Visa at Sam's as a credit card and they won't do it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Am I missing something? I used my Mastercard Credit Card at Sam's today. It is not affiliated with Sam's in any way. Mike michael...@mac.com (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 02, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It will be a Citi Visa card according to the talking heads. On Mon,3/2/15 09:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Citi what? They have debit cards which are already accepted at hte pharmacy. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just saw something come across the wire about Citigroup replacing AMEX for Costco's card services. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why are Craigslist people dumb?
Prepare to be hurt... On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've been casually looking at buying a newer snowmobile. My old Ski-Doo has about had it, its huge, heavy, bent (I crimped the frame when tapped a concrete block) and with dual carbs is hard on the thumb. Prices are up because we've got good snow so I figured its a vain search but something came up today. Its far-ish away but I'm working from home this week, its 5 years newer than the Ski-Doo and should be a nice little machine.The ad is the typical lame thing with no pic and just needs tune up which is usually code for carb is full of water but thats an easy enough fix so I email and ask so what does the just needs tune up mean and can I have pics? the guy says Send me an email and I'll send pics. I should point out we've been emailing at this point. So I send back email to which he responds , I explain and he tries to send me an MHT file that Yahoo won't download. Finally sends me a pdf of what looks like a print out of a picture from another email account that he's taken a picture of with his phone. So weird... I guess I'm going to take a chance, its priced right although I expect I'm going to find a piece of garbage... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why are Craigslist people dumb?
We'll see. I asked for verification of mileage, if it comes back over about 3000 I'll probably pass. At that amount for a small machine it probably needs top end work. This far south its evidence of lots of short trips. In a northern sled I wouldn't be worried. On the other hand he's asking so little money it might be worth putting a top end into it if the cosmetics are decent. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Why are Craigslist people dumb? Prepare to be hurt... On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've been casually looking at buying a newer snowmobile. My old Ski-Doo has about had it, its huge, heavy, bent (I crimped the frame when tapped a concrete block) and with dual carbs is hard on the thumb. Prices are up because we've got good snow so I figured its a vain search but something came up today. Its far-ish away but I'm working from home this week, its 5 years newer than the Ski-Doo and should be a nice little machine.The ad is the typical lame thing with no pic and just needs tune up which is usually code for carb is full of water but thats an easy enough fix so I email and ask so what does the just needs tune up mean and can I have pics? the guy says Send me an email and I'll send pics. I should point out we've been emailing at this point. So I send back email to which he responds , I explain and he tries to send me an MHT file that Yahoo won't download. Finally sends me a pdf of what looks like a print out of a picture from another email account that he's taken a picture of with his phone. So weird... I guess I'm going to take a chance, its priced right although I expect I'm going to find a piece of garbage... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
Cummins is dropping a v8 diesel into nissan's half ton i think. Maybe 2016? On Mar 2, 2015 8:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: f150 does not have a diesel available. The only 1/2 ton truck with diesel is dodge either the ecodiesel. The f150 is the new all aluminum truck and if it was 70k it was probably a platinum or King ranch. The basic xlt is still going to be close to 60k. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's any consolation, while we were at the Strawberry Festival yesterday I looked at some Frod pickup trucks the local dealers had on display. An F150 dressed out with a diesel was *gulp* over $71,000! I laughed maniacally when I saw it. A guy who was manning the booth next to it laughed when he heard me. I hear that all day long whenever people look at that. Dan On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was listed $45k or so, I beat on them a bit as it had been there awhile and the weather up there has been bad so they have not been moving iron. I stopped at another dealer yesterday morning on the way to see this one, a very similar car had literally just come in from a Daimler employee, they were fixing yo do the CPO inspection, about the same price. There's one in CO that's nice too, a bit more but 2014. They wanted to send it to me. There's a bunch around similar prices. MB announces a new CpO deal tomorrow. We drove a 2012 bluetec GL, it was noticeably less peppy and the engine and tranny were really working to move the car. We drove a GL 450 and it moved like the bluetec ML. Gas v diesel is probably a wash on fuel costs. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
