Re: [MBZ] heat
Scott Sez: During an earlier age, it was vey common for those with means (not the working class) to summer up north and winter down south. Edgewater (IL) Community Area 77, 7 miles N of the Chicago Loop. Although it was an elite nineteenthcentury suburb, Edgewater was not recognized as distinct when scholars laid out the community areas in the 1920s. Instead,Edgewater was merged into Uptown. In the 1970s, however, Edgewater's property owners persuaded the city of Chicago to make a rare change in its community area maps and recognize Edgewater as a separate entity. Few people lived in the Edgewater area before the late nineteenth century. Scattered settlers farmed celery. Edgewater's residents were mostly German and Irish. Swedes gathered along Clark Street in an area they called Andersonville. EDGEWATER ADVERTISEMENT, 1888 John Lewis Cochran (1857-1923) purchased land near Lake Michigan in the town of Lake View in 1886. There he developed a subdivision he advertised as Edgewater. He first built mansions on the lakefront for wealthy families and later had smaller houses built to the west. In contrast to other suburban developers, Cochran installed improvements such as sidewalks, sewers, and streetlights before customers moved in. Cochran also founded the Edgewater Light Company to ensure that his buyers could use the most modern conveniences. Cochran's final task was to provide adequate transportation to the area. He persuaded the Chicago, Milwaukee St. Paul Railroad to open a stop on Bryn Mawr Avenue and was instrumental in the creation of the Northwestern Elevated Railroad Company, which in 1908 opened up a connection through to Howard Street. The availability of transportation encouraged the erection of apartment buildings, a development Cochran had not intended. This strip of common corridor buildings and residential hotels, concentrated between Winthrop and Kenmore, increased Edgewater's population density. During the twentieth century, Edgewater solidified its status as one of the most prestigious residential areas in Chicago. In 1898, the exclusive Saddle and Cycle Club relocated to Foster Avenue, on the lakefront. The Edgewater Beach Hotel (1916) and the Edgewater Beach Apartments (1929), finished in sunrise yellow and sunset pink, served as local landmarks. Residential Edgewater's wealth reinforced the glamour of recreational Uptown. Edgewater Gulf Hotel (Biloxi) Surrounded by streets with names such as Kenmore, Bryn Mawr, The Edgewater area was developed by executives of Sears Roebuck Company from Chicago. The well to do families would travel by train to the Gulf Coast to spend the Winters. In 1870, the Louisville and Nashville Railroad was constructed through the southernmost section of Harrison County, Mississippi, connecting New Orleans, Louisiana, and Mobile, Alabama.[1] A northern transportation route into south Mississippi was provided by the Gulf and Ship Island Railroad at the turn of the 20th century.[2] These railroads provided an inexpensive means for moving passengers as well as goods, and opened south Mississippi to both industrial and recreational development.[3] Rapidly progressing lumber and seafood industries transformed the Mississippi Gulf Coast in the 1920s, and people arrived from throughout the United States to take advantage of the economic boom.[3] Northern tourists were attracted to the Mississippi Gulf Coast because of mild winters and cool sea breezes in summer, before the introduction of air conditioning. Besides the weather, other tourist attractions included seafood restaurants, swimming, golf, schooner races, sailing to offshore islands, and recreational fishing. During this period of economic expansion, grand hotels were constructed along the Mississippi Gulf Coast to accommodate businessmen, tourists, and transient workers. Designed by architects Marshall and Fox and constructed in 1924 with 400 guest rooms, the Edgewater Gulf Hotel was one of the largest on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.[14] Guests that arrived in south Mississippi by train could disembark at the rail station on the hotel grounds at Edgewater Park. Early advertisements promoted the hotel as an air conditioned, fireproofed structure, and the hotel's design allowed 95 percent of the rooms to have a view of the Mississippi Sound. In the formal dining room, guests ate on fine china atop heavy linen tablecloths with a view of the Gulf waters. The hotel complex was situated on 600 acres (243 hectares) that included gardens, a golf course, tennis courts, and a glass-enclosed swimming pool. The Edgewater Gulf weathered the Great Depression and attracted many post-World War II conventions which boosted its business. It retained its grandeur through the 1960s, but closed in 1970, unable to compete with newer hotels. In 1971, the grand hotel was demolished by implosion to make way for expansion of Edgewater Mall shopping
[MBZ] Diesel smart
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Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale
I think all three missile types would guide on that target and their warheads would function making multiple holes in the Hellcat. The unknown is the vulnerability of the Hellcat. I suspect the pilot was the largest critical thing in that aircraft, which is not a factor here. So it depends on the size, location, and shielding of things like fuel lines/tanks, control cables, etc. as well as fire suppression. Being air-cooled eliminates a liquid cooling system, which is normally a big vulnerability. Those radial air-cooled engines are reputed to function even after severe battle damage but I don't know how factual that really is. In reality, a modern fighter would probably use the 20mm gun, mainly to ensure they were shooting at the right thing (inside visual range), and that would be very effective (especially with a non-maneuvering target). Current 20mm ammo functions (detonates) after it has passed several inches inside the skin of the target. In defense of the 2.75 FFAM, that shotgun cluster tactic was intended for manned intercontinental bombers, which were quite large and slow in those days. A single hit, almost anywhere on the target, would ruin target crew's day. -Original Message- From: M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes Yes, but how well could they do against an unmanned Hellcat drone? My money's on the Grumman. ;D -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D
Sounds like your starter is bad. Confirm by checking for 12V on the small wire when the key is on the starter position. If you have 12v to switch on the starter, and the battery and cables are good, then the starter is your problem. Thanks for all your thoughts. Further information: Shorting the starter results in starter spinning without engaging flywheel. Solenoid *thunk* without starter turning began after my son attempted starting with the 50 amp momentary setting on my 10 amp battery charger. Is there a fuse or other component likely to have been affected by this event? TIA again. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D Sounds like a bad battery --R On 8/15/15 7:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms: Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no engine turning. Are these symptoms likely associated? Is one causing the other? TIA for your thoughts, Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
On August 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just seemed like the most likely reason for a soft pedal. Did you ever pour brake fluid and see that the container you poured into has thousands of barely visible microbubbles in it? I don't like to pedal bleed from a reservoir that had fluid added to it in the past half hour. If I used a pressure bleeder, I'd fill the tank and give it time to de-air itself before using it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D
Thanks for all your thoughts. Further information: Shorting the starter results in starter spinning without engaging flywheel. Solenoid *thunk* without starter turning began after my son attempted starting with the 50 amp momentary setting on my 10 amp battery charger. Is there a fuse or other component likely to have been affected by this event? TIA again. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D Sounds like a bad battery --R On 8/15/15 7:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms: Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no engine turning. Are these symptoms likely associated? Is one causing the other? TIA for your thoughts, Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D
First, load test the battery. A trip to any FLAPs should test it for free. The load test will show if you have a battery with failed internal plates, which will not then give you full amps to run starter. If the battery loads tests good, then I suggest the starter solenoid possibly welded it's self internally to stuck position which does not engage the starter bendix, since the starter runs free when hooked directly to 12 volts. Start simple by having the battery load tested, fix that problem, if it is one, and since the battery is self discharging, [if I read your post correctly] it is suspect. It is possible to have more than one problem arise at the same time, however, such as the starter solenoid/bendix function and the battery having a warped plate. [possible scenario with high charge rate and low water, perhaps]. Hope this gives you some place to start.. Good luck. Grant... On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks for all your thoughts. Further information: Shorting the starter results in starter spinning without engaging flywheel. Solenoid *thunk* without starter turning began after my son attempted starting with the 50 amp momentary setting on my 10 amp battery charger. Is there a fuse or other component likely to have been affected by this event? TIA again. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D Sounds like a bad battery --R On 8/15/15 7:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms: Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no engine turning. Are these symptoms likely associated? Is one causing the other? TIA for your thoughts, Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
I think I got my answer - thanks all. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The right way to do it is to tear up the concrete, put down a proper vapor barrier and put down a new floor. Then hire a pro put put an epoxy coating on it. After that, if you desire, you can glue the carpet over the top. Painting concrete floors only makes a mess for the next treatment after the paint peels. If you do it properly, (rip it out, vapor barrier and new concrete) you can have the concrete colored, stained, finished to look like bricks, stones or whatever you like. You can always cover stained concrete with a rug. You just can't get the rug to stick to peeling paint or DIY epoxy. The industrial epoxy is different stuff than the DIY epoxy Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question
On 15/08/2015 9:10 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Greg wrote: OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? 'Cause Gmail is being helpful. I guess they figure you know what you sent. It bugs me - but I've found no way around it. ___ The messages you send do show in sent mail and in all mail RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heat
I am told that the descriptive equivalent of snow birds for the winter visitors, is summer chickens for the folks that live there but leave for the worst of the hot weather. Maybe that is what you need to be? RB On 16/08/2015 10:07 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday, 115 yesterday. Today should be about the same. Ugh. I'm tired of these summers. I have to start thinking about where I want to spend summers when I retire. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heat
I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday, 115 yesterday. Today should be about the same. Ugh. I'm tired of these summers. I have to start thinking about where I want to spend summers when I retire. Bob R Bob, Wisconsin, N of Rhinelander, N MN, and parts of canada are pretty nice in the summertime. no need for air cond. reasonable humidity levels most of the time. Occasional need to throw a log or two in the woodstove when it is cold and rainy. The MI UP and other areas north of 45º N lat. are also tolerable without A/c. Just think! You could be a summer chicken Yooper! Way better than being a FIB. The northwoods are full of summer homes or cottages. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heat
A lot of the cottage owners out at the lake where we go are from the US but mostly within a good day's drive - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa etc. RB On 17/08/2015 11:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: So the. You would have a large influx of Arizonians and Floridians for the summer, much like we have a large influx of Canadians in the winter? Dan, eh Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am told that the descriptive equivalent of snow birds for the winter visitors, is summer chickens for the folks that live there but leave for the worst of the hot weather. Maybe that is what you need to be? RB On 16/08/2015 10:07 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday, 115 yesterday. Today should be about the same. Ugh. I'm tired of these summers. I have to start thinking about where I want to spend summers when I retire. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heat
So the. You would have a large influx of Arizonians and Floridians for the summer, much like we have a large influx of Canadians in the winter? Dan, eh Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am told that the descriptive equivalent of snow birds for the winter visitors, is summer chickens for the folks that live there but leave for the worst of the hot weather. Maybe that is what you need to be? RB On 16/08/2015 10:07 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday, 115 yesterday. Today should be about the same. Ugh. I'm tired of these summers. I have to start thinking about where I want to spend summers when I retire. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale
And Joe Kennedy was killed by a B-24 drone in about '44. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale Mitch wrote: On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over southern California and missed. Drone? Radio controlled drone? 60 years ago? ...ah... the age of technology. Too bad drones today are not as reliable, or something... mao When did Mitch write that? I have not seen anything. Actually, they flew RC B-29s through the 1946 atomic explosions at Bikini atoll. (What are now called drones) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Are you smarter than a 1912 8th grader?
Here's a test given in 1912 to 8th grade students. Lots of luck. Pointing out the miserable failure of the goobermnt skools Pointing out what would happen to college if it, too, were made automatic, if not mandatory. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
The right way to do it is to tear up the concrete, put down a proper vapor barrier and put down a new floor. Then hire a pro put put an epoxy coating on it. After that, if you desire, you can glue the carpet over the top. Painting concrete floors only makes a mess for the next treatment after the paint peels. If you do it properly, (rip it out, vapor barrier and new concrete) you can have the concrete colored, stained, finished to look like bricks, stones or whatever you like. You can always cover stained concrete with a rug. You just can't get the rug to stick to peeling paint or DIY epoxy. The industrial epoxy is different stuff than the DIY epoxy Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Are you smarter than a 1912 8th grader?
So who has actually sat down and taken the test w/o cheating? On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here's a test given in 1912 to 8th grade students. Lots of luck. Pointing out the miserable failure of the goobermnt skools Pointing out what would happen to college if it, too, were made automatic, if not mandatory. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
No paint; install the I/O carpet and enjoy it. 'Thought that was decided months ago. I have spoken. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. Also try, http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other cementitious materials. RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6 depending on porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the concrete. Craig RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape
The only thing the Solex 4A1 can do well is ingest a large moth with aplomb. My father was trying (in vain) to get his 280C working one evening in SoCal ca. 1982 or so when the aforementioned moth came over, attracted by the worklight. THWOOOP! A few seconds later, a little cloud of moth scales came out the exhaust... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale
Yes, but how well could they do against an unmanned Hellcat drone? My money's on the Grumman. ;D -MMM- On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Current F-14/15/16/18 US fighters have internal 20mm guns plus three types of guided air-to-air missiles: AIM-9 short-range heat-seeking missiles, AIM-7 long-range semi-active radar-guided missiles, and AMRAAM medium-range multi-mode radar/inertial missiles. There are several variants of each of these and each type aircraft has multiple allowable load configurations. All current air-to-air missiles are orders-of magnitude more capable than any unguided 2.75 incher. -Original Message- From: Max Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:33 AM I think all current fighters have both guns and missiles? I know the F/A-18 has both. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Seems like snake oil to me. I don't see stuff coming out of a garden sprayer somehow migrating 6 into existing concrete. I also don't see it being like adding more cement to concrete. Big bold claims like that usually make me question... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? We could have used that stuff in the basement of our home in Indiana. When we did a radon test, it scored 9 PCI/L. 4 is considered the minimum threshold for remediation. Dan no longer glowing in the dark Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. Also try, http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other cementitious materials. RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6 depending on porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the concrete. Craig RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Last night I installed new Akebono Ultra Premium ceramic pads (part# EUR423) in my '87 300TD. Made in USA, and about $46 via Amazon. Two problems. Well, maybe only one can be attributed to the new pads. The MB pad wear sensors are supposed to clip into holes in the pads, but the holes are slightly too large and the sensors flop around a bit, As long as they don't fall out, I think they'll work fine, but they don't fit as well as in the OE or OEM pads. The pedal feel was nice and firm with Pagid normal pads, but now the pedal feel is toward the squishy end. I blame the new pads. I also changed the front brake hoses at the same time, so perhaps the new ATE hoses are to blame or are part of the problem. They are a 129 part number now. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
We could have used that stuff in the basement of our home in Indiana. When we did a radon test, it scored 9 PCI/L. 4 is considered the minimum threshold for remediation. Dan no longer glowing in the dark Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. Also try, http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other cementitious materials. RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6 depending on porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the concrete. Craig RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Thanks ! The radon seal material is what I have been looking for to use on my new shop floor. I'll be giving them a call.. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. Also try, http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other cementitious materials. RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6 depending on porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the concrete. Craig RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Well... logic says, if water can migrate up, why can't a material with the right surface tension migrate down? Concrete is porous not solid.. it expands and contracts with temperature changes. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Seems like snake oil to me. I don't see stuff coming out of a garden sprayer somehow migrating 6 into existing concrete. I also don't see it being like adding more cement to concrete. Big bold claims like that usually make me question... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? We could have used that stuff in the basement of our home in Indiana. When we did a radon test, it scored 9 PCI/L. 4 is considered the minimum threshold for remediation. Dan no longer glowing in the dark Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. Also try, http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other cementitious materials. RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6 depending on porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the concrete. Craig RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
The wear sensors should clip into the side of the pad backing plates. Being placed in the holes doesn't anchor or hold them in place. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Last night I installed new Akebono Ultra Premium ceramic pads (part# EUR423) in my '87 300TD. Made in USA, and about $46 via Amazon. Two problems. Well, maybe only one can be attributed to the new pads. The MB pad wear sensors are supposed to clip into holes in the pads, but the holes are slightly too large and the sensors flop around a bit, As long as they don't fall out, I think they'll work fine, but they don't fit as well as in the OE or OEM pads. The pedal feel was nice and firm with Pagid normal pads, but now the pedal feel is toward the squishy end. I blame the new pads. I also changed the front brake hoses at the same time, so perhaps the new ATE hoses are to blame or are part of the problem. They are a 129 part number now. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
I am with Curt on this one. Sounds too good to be true, which means it usually is such. RB On 17/08/2015 2:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Seems like snake oil to me. I don't see stuff coming out of a garden sprayer somehow migrating 6 into existing concrete. I also don't see it being like adding more cement to concrete. Big bold claims like that usually make me question... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? We could have used that stuff in the basement of our home in Indiana. When we did a radon test, it scored 9 PCI/L. 4 is considered the minimum threshold for remediation. Dan no longer glowing in the dark Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. Also try, http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other cementitious materials. RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6 depending on porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the concrete. Craig RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
The pedal feel was nice and firm with Pagid normal pads, but now the pedal feel is toward the squishy end. I blame the new pads. I also changed the front brake hoses at the same time, so perhaps the new ATE hoses are to blame or are part of the problem. - Max Bleed them again?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Just seemed like the most likely reason for a soft pedal. RB On 17/08/2015 3:35 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Randy, I'm using a Power Bleeder which pressurizes the MC reservoir and pushes fluid at the same time. This quickly and easily pushes all the air out via the bleeder bolt. I would be surprised if there is still any air in the system. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bleed them again?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
