Re: [MBZ] OT: BaT for Craig

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 2 May 2017 01:30:10 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-alfa-romeo-giulietta-spider-veloce-2/

Boy, does that bring back memories! Mine was Ferrari Red.


It has no air filter. I noticed that in the picture of the engine
compartment in the article, but

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Giulietta-6.jpg and
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Giulietta-8.jpg

show it better.

The owner's letter to the new owner in the last picture says, "The car is
very light, responsive, and an absolute delight to drive." He's right.

He also says, "When driving, the only thing I would look out for is
stopping on a steep uphill grade ..." That is very true, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

With apologies to our many friends in other lands:
If high schoolers had to pass the Citizenship Test to graduate and voters had 
to pass it periodically to vote (probably unconstitutional), the US would be a 
better place.  

Passing score is six correct answers to ten random questions.
Way too many folks (especially young folks) don't know what it means to be an 
American and the media and education mafia aren't helping.
I actually think Andrew would have no problem with this test.
Scott

> -Original Message-
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> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:58 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic
> 
> Why?
> 
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > People there should read the constitution and the amendments.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  April 30,
> >> 2017 at 6:40 PM I still haven't managed to work out my firearms
> >> license so no repeating arms for me. Besides what is life without
> >> challenge? Theres a reason I don't drive a Prius and watch TV all
> >> day...
> >>
> >>
> >> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Here is your wagon yo

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Does it have the faux fender vents installed? I did not notice.

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On May 1, 2017, at 10:14 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

>> Kaleb wrote:
> 
>> 1979 Mercedes Benz 350TD Restomod Wagon
>> http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6111332884.html
> 
> OUCH!!!
> 
> You should have warned us of the danger of looking at that!!
> 
> small block and 4-speed auto in a uglified body...   And those
> wheels!!!  AGGGH!
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Re: [MBZ] Here is your wagon yo

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> 1979 Mercedes Benz 350TD Restomod Wagon
> http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6111332884.html

OUCH!!!

You should have warned us of the danger of looking at that!!

small block and 4-speed auto in a uglified body...   And those
wheels!!!  AGGGH!

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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

> Its also worth mentioning that somebody will tell you that your
> laptop might not like a modified sine wave such that you might
> get from an inexpensive generator (IIRC Greg was asking about a
> Honda which is not an inexpensive generator) however I've never
> seen AC output that a laptop power supply wouldn't work on down
> to the cheapest Wal-Mart inverter.That includes my Macbook Pro,
> a Dell Precision workstation and a really old HP.

Of course those power supplies don't care.  The use switching mode
power supplies - which turn the the incoming AC into filtered DC.
So long as the RMS voltage is approx. correct, the power supply
will have a correct DC voltage for the DC-DC converter.

I have run a number of computers a lot of hours on a couple
different - but all cheap - inverters.  It's hard to get nastier
AC than a cheap inverter.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ah I see!   A Car dolphin!


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 9:45 PM
Car attention deficit disorder


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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

(Max touches nose)

Congrats on the listing!  GLWS!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 1, 2017 8:34:39 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>
>Somehow, I think we might know the seller ...
>

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Car attention deficit disorder 

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> On May 1, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Canadian ADD?
> Computer aided design and drafting?
> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 1, 2017 at 8:11 PM
>> The seller seems to have CADD
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Canadian ADD?
Computer aided design and drafting?


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 8:11 PM
The seller seems to have CADD


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[MBZ] OT: BaT for Craig

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-alfa-romeo-giulietta-spider-veloce-2/

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The seller seems to have CADD

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> On May 1, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 1 May 2017 19:34:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> And a no reserve auction, too:
>> 
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/
>> 
> 
> Somehow, I think we might know the seller ...
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hmmm.


> On May 1, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 1 May 2017 19:34:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> And a no reserve auction, too:
>> 
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/
>> 
> 
> Somehow, I think we might know the seller ...
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 1 May 2017 19:34:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> And a no reserve auction, too:
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/
> 

Somehow, I think we might know the seller ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

[clay via Mercedes]

I did that mistake last year with Polei.  Sanded the crap out of the paint.  
This summer I will be doing a renovation and not sand but at the end.  Just to 
make it nice for polishing.

clay


> On May 1, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do not sand between coats. I learned that the hard way, kept sanding the 
> paint off...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Max Dillon 
> Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!
> 
> Thin to consistency of milk, apply by roller.  Eight coats.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On May 1, 2017 6:30:11 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> Rustoleum
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>> On 01/05/2017 5:21 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I
>> decided to talk to the boys at the paint shop.  Wesco, who reps PPG
>> paints.
>>> 
>>> I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body
>> shops and getting your rig all prettied up.  Maybe there is, but the
>> cost of product is atrocious.  There is all manner of “REAL” paint that
>> needs to be applied, not just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away. 
>> And the amount of paint needed seems excessive, but may not be.
>>> 
>>> Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’
>> Sho’”.  That will give me three coats and just enough for touch up. 
>> But first I need a primer sealer for a few hundred $$.  Then some
>> reducers and other fluids cost more dollars, before I can even shoot
>> three coats of clear.  That needs catalyst for the gallon that will
>> give me three coats.  All this chemical goodness has an entry price of
>> at least $1600.  And that does not include the booth, guns, filters,
>> swabbing cloths and other product.
>>> 
>>> The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over.  We
>> chatted about what I had done and what the original paint was like.  
>> He was happy the original coating was in good enough condition, so that
>> I do not need to strip it all the way to bare metal.  Doing the glazing
>> putty was done passably, so I just need to sand down through the primer
>> and color I put on, then do all the magical paint application.
>>> 
>>> Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or
>> spend more than that would cost to screw it up myself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Here is your wagon yo

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 1 May 2017 19:24:57 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 1979 Mercedes Benz 350TD Restomod Wagon
> http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6111332884.html

Uhh ... no!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

[clay via Mercedes]

That is what I used to get the primer and ground coat.  

The Rustoleum is going to prevent the PPG magic from sticking, somehow.  I 
might be able to see that.  Somehow.  The Krylon mistake makes me think the 
Rustoleum would not allow it to bond.  This makes me think I just wet sand the 
heck out of the present coating, maybe to 1000, then do a few cases of 
Rustoleum gold.

clay

> On May 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rustoleum
> 
> RB
> 
> On 01/05/2017 5:21 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I decided 
>> to talk to the boys at the paint shop.  Wesco, who reps PPG paints.
>> 
>> I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body shops 
>> and getting your rig all prettied up.  Maybe there is, but the cost of 
>> product is atrocious.  There is all manner of “REAL” paint that needs to be 
>> applied, not just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away.  And the amount of 
>> paint needed seems excessive, but may not be.
>> 
>> Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’ Sho’”.  
>> That will give me three coats and just enough for touch up.  But first I 
>> need a primer sealer for a few hundred $$.  Then some reducers and other 
>> fluids cost more dollars, before I can even shoot three coats of clear.  
>> That needs catalyst for the gallon that will give me three coats.  All this 
>> chemical goodness has an entry price of at least $1600.  And that does not 
>> include the booth, guns, filters, swabbing cloths and other product.
>> 
>> The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over.  We chatted 
>> about what I had done and what the original paint was like.   He was happy 
>> the original coating was in good enough condition, so that I do not need to 
>> strip it all the way to bare metal.  Doing the glazing putty was done 
>> passably, so I just need to sand down through the primer and color I put on, 
>> then do all the magical paint application.
>> 
>> Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or spend 
>> more than that would cost to screw it up myself.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
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[MBZ] Here is your wagon yo

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

1979 Mercedes Benz 350TD Restomod Wagon
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6111332884.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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[MBZ] Liquor and blow

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

1985 Mercedes Benz 300 TD Wagon
http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/6111791418.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] I have become one with the crack....

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 01 May 2017 18:24:33 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well, if it works, no ACC is a plus as is the replacement of the R4 
> compressor with a newer type.

Indeed. When I saw the picture, I said to myself, "That's a Sanden
compressor ..."


> paint...not so hot!

This is most certainly true!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The seller is one with the crack.

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> On May 1, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And a no reserve auction, too:
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/ 
> 
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] Nice 300D on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And a no reserve auction, too:

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/ 


-D

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Re: [MBZ] I have become one with the crack....

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, if it works, no ACC is a plus as is the replacement of the R4 
compressor with a newer type.


paint...not so hot!

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 4:51 PM
Dig the custom AC system!

https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/6112983163.html 



Meth head from Kyle and Manfred’s neck of the woods.


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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The Curt rustoleum roller special is lookin good!


clay via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 5:21 PM
Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I 
decided to talk to the boys at the paint shop. Wesco, who reps PPG 
paints.


I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body 
shops and getting your rig all prettied up. Maybe there is, but the 
cost of product is atrocious. There is all manner of “REAL” paint that 
needs to be applied, not just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away. 
And the amount of paint needed seems excessive, but may not be.


Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’ 
Sho’”. That will give me three coats and just enough for touch up. But 
first I need a primer sealer for a few hundred $$. Then some reducers 
and other fluids cost more dollars, before I can even shoot three 
coats of clear. That needs catalyst for the gallon that will give me 
three coats. All this chemical goodness has an entry price of at least 
$1600. And that does not include the booth, guns, filters, swabbing 
cloths and other product.


The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over. We 
chatted about what I had done and what the original paint was like. He 
was happy the original coating was in good enough condition, so that I 
do not need to strip it all the way to bare metal. Doing the glazing 
putty was done passably, so I just need to sand down through the 
primer and color I put on, then do all the magical paint application.


Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or 
spend more than that would cost to screw it up myself.



clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Do not sand between coats. I learned that the hard way, kept sanding the paint 
off...
-Curt

  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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Cc: Max Dillon 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 6:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!
   
Thin to consistency of milk, apply by roller.  Eight coats.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 1, 2017 6:30:11 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Rustoleum
>
>RB
>
>On 01/05/2017 5:21 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I
>decided to talk to the boys at the paint shop.  Wesco, who reps PPG
>paints.
>>
>> I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body
>shops and getting your rig all prettied up.  Maybe there is, but the
>cost of product is atrocious.  There is all manner of “REAL” paint that
>needs to be applied, not just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away. 
>And the amount of paint needed seems excessive, but may not be.
>>
>> Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’
>Sho’”.  That will give me three coats and just enough for touch up. 
>But first I need a primer sealer for a few hundred $$.  Then some
>reducers and other fluids cost more dollars, before I can even shoot
>three coats of clear.  That needs catalyst for the gallon that will
>give me three coats.  All this chemical goodness has an entry price of
>at least $1600.  And that does not include the booth, guns, filters,
>swabbing cloths and other product.
>>
>> The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over.  We
>chatted about what I had done and what the original paint was like.  
>He was happy the original coating was in good enough condition, so that
>I do not need to strip it all the way to bare metal.  Doing the glazing
>putty was done passably, so I just need to sand down through the primer
>and color I put on, then do all the magical paint application.
>>
>> Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or
>spend more than that would cost to screw it up myself.
>>
>>
>> clay
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Don't forget mineral spirits and a roller. A foam roller works best although I 
had reasonable results with a knap roller, just had to go slower.
If my 240D hadn't been rusty the roller technique would have been reasonable. 
As it was the hood I painted was good from 50' or so.
-Curt

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Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 6:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!
   
Rustoleum

RB

On 01/05/2017 5:21 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
> Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I decided to 
> talk to the boys at the paint shop.  Wesco, who reps PPG paints.
>
> I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body shops 
> and getting your rig all prettied up.  Maybe there is, but the cost of 
> product is atrocious.  There is all manner of “REAL” paint that needs to be 
> applied, not just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away.  And the amount of 
> paint needed seems excessive, but may not be.
>
> Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’ Sho’”.  
> That will give me three coats and just enough for touch up.  But first I need 
> a primer sealer for a few hundred $$.  Then some reducers and other fluids 
> cost more dollars, before I can even shoot three coats of clear.  That needs 
> catalyst for the gallon that will give me three coats.  All this chemical 
> goodness has an entry price of at least $1600.  And that does not include the 
> booth, guns, filters, swabbing cloths and other product.
>
> The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over.  We chatted 
> about what I had done and what the original paint was like.  He was happy the 
> original coating was in good enough condition, so that I do not need to strip 
> it all the way to bare metal.  Doing the glazing putty was done passably, so 
> I just need to sand down through the primer and color I put on, then do all 
> the magical paint application.
>
> Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or spend more 
> than that would cost to screw it up myself.
>
>
> clay
>


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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thin to consistency of milk, apply by roller.  Eight coats.
-- 
Max Dillon
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 1, 2017 6:30:11 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Rustoleum
>
>RB
>
>On 01/05/2017 5:21 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I
>decided to talk to the boys at the paint shop.  Wesco, who reps PPG
>paints.
>>
>> I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body
>shops and getting your rig all prettied up.  Maybe there is, but the
>cost of product is atrocious.  There is all manner of “REAL” paint that
>needs to be applied, not just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away. 
>And the amount of paint needed seems excessive, but may not be.
>>
>> Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’
>Sho’”.  That will give me three coats and just enough for touch up. 
>But first I need a primer sealer for a few hundred $$.  Then some
>reducers and other fluids cost more dollars, before I can even shoot
>three coats of clear.  That needs catalyst for the gallon that will
>give me three coats.  All this chemical goodness has an entry price of
>at least $1600.  And that does not include the booth, guns, filters,
>swabbing cloths and other product.
>>
>> The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over.  We
>chatted about what I had done and what the original paint was like.  
>He was happy the original coating was in good enough condition, so that
>I do not need to strip it all the way to bare metal.  Doing the glazing
>putty was done passably, so I just need to sand down through the primer
>and color I put on, then do all the magical paint application.
>>
>> Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or
>spend more than that would cost to screw it up myself.
>>
>>
>> clay
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Rustoleum

RB

On 01/05/2017 5:21 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I decided to 
talk to the boys at the paint shop.  Wesco, who reps PPG paints.

I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body shops and 
getting your rig all prettied up.  Maybe there is, but the cost of product is 
atrocious.  There is all manner of “REAL” paint that needs to be applied, not 
just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away.  And the amount of paint needed 
seems excessive, but may not be.

Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’ Sho’”.  That 
will give me three coats and just enough for touch up.  But first I need a 
primer sealer for a few hundred $$.  Then some reducers and other fluids cost 
more dollars, before I can even shoot three coats of clear.  That needs 
catalyst for the gallon that will give me three coats.  All this chemical 
goodness has an entry price of at least $1600.  And that does not include the 
booth, guns, filters, swabbing cloths and other product.

The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over.  We chatted 
about what I had done and what the original paint was like.   He was happy the 
original coating was in good enough condition, so that I do not need to strip 
it all the way to bare metal.  Doing the glazing putty was done passably, so I 
just need to sand down through the primer and color I put on, then do all the 
magical paint application.

Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or spend more 
than that would cost to screw it up myself.


clay




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Re: [MBZ] I have become one with the crack....

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

If it was from ADSIT, that is quite possible. He would have also gotten a free 
dose of verbal abuse as well.

-D

> On May 1, 2017, at 6:24 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I like that he got himself an Adsit transmission and says it has not been 
> driven since.  Does that mean it does not drive anymore?
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On May 1, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dig the custom AC system!
>> 
>> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/6112983163.html 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have become one with the crack....

[clay via Mercedes]

I like that he got himself an Adsit transmission and says it has not been 
driven since.  Does that mean it does not drive anymore?

clay


> On May 1, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/6112983163.html 
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[MBZ] Paint my Benz!

[clay via Mercedes]

Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I decided to 
talk to the boys at the paint shop.  Wesco, who reps PPG paints.   

I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body shops and 
getting your rig all prettied up.  Maybe there is, but the cost of product is 
atrocious.  There is all manner of “REAL” paint that needs to be applied, not 
just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away.  And the amount of paint needed 
seems excessive, but may not be.

Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’ Sho’”.  That 
will give me three coats and just enough for touch up.  But first I need a 
primer sealer for a few hundred $$.  Then some reducers and other fluids cost 
more dollars, before I can even shoot three coats of clear.  That needs 
catalyst for the gallon that will give me three coats.  All this chemical 
goodness has an entry price of at least $1600.  And that does not include the 
booth, guns, filters, swabbing cloths and other product.

The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over.  We chatted 
about what I had done and what the original paint was like.   He was happy the 
original coating was in good enough condition, so that I do not need to strip 
it all the way to bare metal.  Doing the glazing putty was done passably, so I 
just need to sand down through the primer and color I put on, then do all the 
magical paint application.

Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or spend more 
than that would cost to screw it up myself.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
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Re: [MBZ] I have become one with the crack....

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh boy 

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> On May 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dig the custom AC system!
> 
> https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/6112983163.html 
> 
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[MBZ] I have become one with the crack....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Dig the custom AC system!

https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/6112983163.html 


Meth head from Kyle and Manfred’s neck of the woods.
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbodiesel I5 $3350

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Chances are good that is a kollyfonia '85.  (since it is if 
Fairfield)Om  sidha etc.




Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 2:40 PM
Finally an honest seller not claiming 40mpg

1985 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbodiesel I5
http://ottumwa.craigslist.org/cto/6106822423.html



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[MBZ] 1985 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbodiesel I5 $3350

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Finally an honest seller not claiming 40mpg

1985 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbodiesel I5
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[MBZ] So good you don't even need pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1986 Mercedes 300 SDL - Low Miles
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[MBZ] I would be scared to see the inside.

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1983 Mercedes 300sd
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

 "You won't be able to hear it unless you crawl under with the switch ON."

For about 12 seconds?


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

If you sit in the seat in a quiet area, you should be able to hear the
pupm running back by the rear axle when you turn on the key.   If you
have a whole bunch of tree frogs singin or some such clatter, you won't
be able to hear it unless you crawl under with the switch ON.
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

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When those cars sit more often that not the fuel pumps lock up. You can try 
reversing the polarity on the pump back and forth to work it loose. Otherwise 
you will need to replace the pumps.

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> On May 1, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I cracked the lines coming off the injector distributor (whatever it is 
> called) and got a bit of fuel out of the one to the rear. The front one goes 
> through something that looks like a filter or regulator or something, then 
> down to the engine in front, then another hose comes back up and then towards 
> the tank, I'm thinking this is the return and the rear one is the supply 
> line.  But no fuel when the switch is on, so I guess either the pump is not 
> pumping or the filter is clogged.  I checked the fuses, there was not one for 
> the pump but there is a relay, I pulled it and jumped the pins that 
> supposedly energize the pump but still got no flow. I'll have to check at the 
> pump to see if it has power and if it is running.  I guess if the filter is 
> clogged nothing will get through anyway.
> 
> One of the relays on the fuse block was really hot, I'm wondering if it is 
> the fuel pump relay and it is sticking.  The diagram in the manual suggests 
> it is a seat adjuster relay, not sure why it would be drawing lots of power 
> or be so hot unless some motor is not motoring and the switch is shorted or 
> something.
> 
> There is an over voltage protection relay too, not sure what that protects, 
> will have to check the fuses on it, maybe one is related to the fuel pump or 
> tranny?  Damn wouldn't that be something, a $0.15 fuse keeping the tranny 
> inop...
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 4/30/17 2:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Unless they ran it till it was completely dry then it was bound to have some 
>> fuel in the tank. The fuel will be in the lines as well which will be just 
>> like the fuel in the tank, which you don't want getting to the distributor
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Klebster is right on, but if that is the case then nearly everything 
>>> crud-wise will be in the filter, so dump it and install a new one before 
>>> you do amy more.
>>> 
>>> If the tank was completely dry as you describe it’s unlikely anything came 
>>> off when you filled it, there just might have been some crud in it that 
>>> will be caught by the strainer and filter.  As fresh fuel sits in the tank 
>>> things might start loosening up and floating around, however.  Best to buy 
>>> a couple of spare filters.
>>> 
>>> No need to panic at this point.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 30, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 There was nothing in the tank but I guess I loosed it all by putting in 
 new fuel.  But yeah...
 
 --FT
 
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

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Every car I have worked on had the terminal block. 

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> On May 1, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am thinkin they are talking about gen 1 126.  I seem to think the terminal 
> block was present on gen 2 126.  Been a while since I worked on a 126 motor.  
> I've never touched a gen 1.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 1, 2017 at 12:28 PM
>> The wires to the motors should go to a double wiring block deal in the door 
>> with 2 Phillips head screws. Does yours not have this?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

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I haven't opened up a front door so don't know.  Taking your approach 
would have required doing that, collecting up the bits, which was more 
than I wanted to do this decade.


--FT


On 5/1/17 2:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
this is rear door only?  If I encountered that I surely cut the wires 
and either put in a terminal block or spliced with wire nuts.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 12:41 PM
What Floyd said. Both of my 1990 W126 chassis' cars are wired 
directly to the switch. This I know as I disconnected the motor on my 
300SEL in order to remove it from the door.


-D




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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have wild life around here.  Also lots of animals making noise.

--FT


On 5/1/17 2:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
If you sit in the seat in a quiet area, you should be able to hear the 
pupm running back by the rear axle when you turn on the key.   If you 
have a whole bunch of tree frogs singin or some such clatter, you 
won't be able to hear it unless you crawl under with the switch ON.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 12:40 PM
I cracked the lines coming off the injector distributor (whatever it 
is called) and got a bit of fuel out of the one to the rear. The 
front one goes through something that looks like a filter or 
regulator or something, then down to the engine in front, then 
another hose comes back up and then towards the tank, I'm thinking 
this is the return and the rear one is the supply line.  But no fuel 
when the switch is on, so I guess either the pump is not pumping or 
the filter is clogged.  I checked the fuses, there was not one for 
the pump but there is a relay, I pulled it and jumped the pins that 
supposedly energize the pump but still got no flow. I'll have to 
check at the pump to see if it has power and if it is running.  I 
guess if the filter is clogged nothing will get through anyway.


One of the relays on the fuse block was really hot, I'm wondering if 
it is the fuel pump relay and it is sticking.  The diagram in the 
manual suggests it is a seat adjuster relay, not sure why it would be 
drawing lots of power or be so hot unless some motor is not motoring 
and the switch is shorted or something.


There is an over voltage protection relay too, not sure what that 
protects, will have to check the fuses on it, maybe one is related to 
the fuel pump or tranny?  Damn wouldn't that be something, a $0.15 
fuse keeping the tranny inop...


--FT




Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 1:00 PM
Unless they ran it till it was completely dry then it was bound to 
have some fuel in the tank. The fuel will be in the lines as well 
which will be just like the fuel in the tank, which you don't want 
getting to the distributor


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Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 12:43 PM
The Klebster is right on, but if that is the case then nearly 
everything crud-wise will be in the filter, so dump it and install a 
new one before you do amy more.


If the tank was completely dry as you describe it’s unlikely anything 
came off when you filled it, there just might have been some crud in 
it that will be caught by the strainer and filter. As fresh fuel sits 
in the tank things might start loosening up and floating around, 
however. Best to buy a couple of spare filters.


No need to panic at this point.

-D





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Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 12:39 PM
There was nothing in the tank but I guess I loosed it all by putting 
in new fuel.  But yeah...


--FT




Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 12:30 PM
I put in the battery and a coupla gallons of gas into the tank and 
cranked on it for a minute or two a couple times.  Got oel pressure 
so that is good.  No luck getting it to fire.  I'm thinking I should 
get a new fuel filter tomorrow and try to replace that before 
carrying on?


Any other ideas, or just keep cranking?  Maybe a coupla gallons more 
fuel?  Fuel tank smelled like old turpentine gone bad so I guess all 
the stuff in there evaporated and goobered up over the years it sat.




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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I respect your posting links b/c under the 37th amendment I have the right
to choose not to click.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 2:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The link below is posted for information only. I make no political content
> with it.
> This is a learned group with diverse background and living in various
> states [both physical and mental ;) ], so make of it the information as you
> wish.
>
> https://www.concealedcarry.com/reciprocity/constitutional-carry-state-by-
> state/
>
>  source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon>
> Virus-free.
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> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not really, we require people to take a licensing process before they're
> > allowed to drive...
> > I think a gun safety class should be the other way around, it should be
> > compulsory. Gun handling shouldn't but everybody should know that guns
> can
> > be dangerous in the wrong hands and how to handle them safely.
> >
> > Of course I also think that everybody should learn how to ride a
> > motorcycle too, it makes you a better driver...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: Mitch Haley 
> >  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >  Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 1:13 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic
> >
> >
> > > On May 1, 2017 at 12:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > MA has an interesting mix of gun laws ranging from daconian to no big
> > deal. For the most part its no big deal, to get an FID (for ownership of
> > long guns, rifles and shotguns) you take a safety class, fill out a form
> > and pay a fee, no big whoop and a safety class is probably a good idea
> for
> > most everybody.
> >
> >
> > Kind of like taking a literacy test and paying your poll tax to vote.
> > Mitch.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

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The link below is posted for information only. I make no political content
with it.
This is a learned group with diverse background and living in various
states [both physical and mental ;) ], so make of it the information as you
wish.

https://www.concealedcarry.com/reciprocity/constitutional-carry-state-by-state/


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On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Not really, we require people to take a licensing process before they're
> allowed to drive...
> I think a gun safety class should be the other way around, it should be
> compulsory. Gun handling shouldn't but everybody should know that guns can
> be dangerous in the wrong hands and how to handle them safely.
>
> Of course I also think that everybody should learn how to ride a
> motorcycle too, it makes you a better driver...
>
> -Curt
>
>   From: Mitch Haley 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 1:13 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic
>
>
> > On May 1, 2017 at 12:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > MA has an interesting mix of gun laws ranging from daconian to no big
> deal. For the most part its no big deal, to get an FID (for ownership of
> long guns, rifles and shotguns) you take a safety class, fill out a form
> and pay a fee, no big whoop and a safety class is probably a good idea for
> most everybody.
>
>
> Kind of like taking a literacy test and paying your poll tax to vote.
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

this is rear door only?  If I encountered that I surely cut the wires 
and either put in a terminal block or spliced with wire nuts.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 12:41 PM
What Floyd said. Both of my 1990 W126 chassis' cars are wired directly 
to the switch. This I know as I disconnected the motor on my 300SEL in 
order to remove it from the door.


-D




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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its also worth mentioning that somebody will tell you that your laptop might 
not like a modified sine wave such that you might get from an inexpensive 
generator (IIRC Greg was asking about a Honda which is not an inexpensive 
generator) however I've never seen AC output that a laptop power supply 
wouldn't work on down to the cheapest Wal-Mart inverter.That includes my 
Macbook Pro, a Dell Precision workstation and a really old HP...
-Curt

  From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Jim Cathey 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption
   
Amperage not a great idea, because most electronics power supplies,
especially the small ones, have a poor power factor.  Billable watts, in
AC, is _not_ just V times A, you also have to multiply in the 0-1 power
factor.

Simplest possible thing to do is use the Kill-A-Watt, which is cheap and
handles the power factor calculations for you.  (By integrating the
instantaneous VA product over the cycles of power.)  It also will sum up
Watt-hours, so you can calculate the effect on your power bill.  Plug your
refrigerator into it for a week, and see what that appliance really costs
you, for example.

Highly recommended.  I have two of them.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If you sit in the seat in a quiet area, you should be able to hear the 
pupm running back by the rear axle when you turn on the key.   If you 
have a whole bunch of tree frogs singin or some such clatter, you won't 
be able to hear it unless you crawl under with the switch ON.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 12:40 PM
I cracked the lines coming off the injector distributor (whatever it 
is called) and got a bit of fuel out of the one to the rear. The front 
one goes through something that looks like a filter or regulator or 
something, then down to the engine in front, then another hose comes 
back up and then towards the tank, I'm thinking this is the return and 
the rear one is the supply line.  But no fuel when the switch is on, 
so I guess either the pump is not pumping or the filter is clogged.  I 
checked the fuses, there was not one for the pump but there is a 
relay, I pulled it and jumped the pins that supposedly energize the 
pump but still got no flow. I'll have to check at the pump to see if 
it has power and if it is running.  I guess if the filter is clogged 
nothing will get through anyway.


One of the relays on the fuse block was really hot, I'm wondering if 
it is the fuel pump relay and it is sticking.  The diagram in the 
manual suggests it is a seat adjuster relay, not sure why it would be 
drawing lots of power or be so hot unless some motor is not motoring 
and the switch is shorted or something.


There is an over voltage protection relay too, not sure what that 
protects, will have to check the fuses on it, maybe one is related to 
the fuel pump or tranny?  Damn wouldn't that be something, a $0.15 
fuse keeping the tranny inop...


--FT




Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 1:00 PM
Unless they ran it till it was completely dry then it was bound to 
have some fuel in the tank. The fuel will be in the lines as well 
which will be just like the fuel in the tank, which you don't want 
getting to the distributor


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Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 12:43 PM
The Klebster is right on, but if that is the case then nearly 
everything crud-wise will be in the filter, so dump it and install a 
new one before you do amy more.


If the tank was completely dry as you describe it’s unlikely anything 
came off when you filled it, there just might have been some crud in 
it that will be caught by the strainer and filter. As fresh fuel sits 
in the tank things might start loosening up and floating around, 
however. Best to buy a couple of spare filters.


No need to panic at this point.

-D





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Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 12:39 PM
There was nothing in the tank but I guess I loosed it all by putting 
in new fuel.  But yeah...


--FT




Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 12:30 PM
I put in the battery and a coupla gallons of gas into the tank and 
cranked on it for a minute or two a couple times.  Got oel pressure so 
that is good.  No luck getting it to fire.  I'm thinking I should get 
a new fuel filter tomorrow and try to replace that before carrying on?


Any other ideas, or just keep cranking?  Maybe a coupla gallons more 
fuel?  Fuel tank smelled like old turpentine gone bad so I guess all 
the stuff in there evaporated and goobered up over the years it sat.




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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Depends hugely on the laptop. My Macbook Pro 15" has I think an 85w power 
supply, the smaller ones have a (again I think) a 45w. The 17" Dell I had a few 
years ago had like a 150w supply. It'll also depend on what you're doing, 
typing email isn't much but if I start editing video the fan in this thing gets 
wound up and its pumping out some heat...
-Curt

  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 1:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption
   
A few days ago I decided I needed to know whether my 2KW Honda genset would 
provide enough juice to keep the fridge and freezer going if Kim sent us an 
EMP. I googled and found that it would, and that a laptop uses 20-25W.

Of course an EMP would likely kill the Honda anyway.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 9:13 AM
To: Mercedes
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

Anyone know how to determine power consumption on a Win7 machine?  Is there a 
built-in software that does that, or do I need to install something?

I'd like to get a general idea of overall power usage, but it would be nice to 
drill down a bit further to see how much is display, hard drive, etc.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not really, we require people to take a licensing process before they're 
allowed to drive...
I think a gun safety class should be the other way around, it should be 
compulsory. Gun handling shouldn't but everybody should know that guns can be 
dangerous in the wrong hands and how to handle them safely. 

Of course I also think that everybody should learn how to ride a motorcycle 
too, it makes you a better driver...

-Curt

  From: Mitch Haley 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic
   

> On May 1, 2017 at 12:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> MA has an interesting mix of gun laws ranging from daconian to no big deal. 
> For the most part its no big deal, to get an FID (for ownership of long guns, 
> rifles and shotguns) you take a safety class, fill out a form and pay a fee, 
> no big whoop and a safety class is probably a good idea for most everybody.


Kind of like taking a literacy test and paying your poll tax to vote. 
Mitch.


   
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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I fail to see the analogy.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 'Xactly!Not to mention unconstitutional
>
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> May 1, 2017 at 12:13 PM
>>
>>
>> Kind of like taking a literacy test and paying your poll tax to vote.
>> Mitch.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Politics Is Back!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

ROFL.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately in my district my melanin content is insufficient to launch
> a successful campaign.  I am working with a woman who has the proper
> credentials in that regard, and is also otherwise extremely well-qualified,
> who is extremely interested, so that might work out better.
>
> Plus, if I ever got elected I would have to deal with people like me all
> day, which would make me want to eat my gun.
>
> --FT (bombthrower)
>
>
> On 5/1/17 1:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you are consolidating your political base, just in time for
>> the next local election.
>>
>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Floyd Thursby > > wrote:
>>
>> HA!  I've seen this movie so many times, and actually wrote some
>> of the scripts.  The main fool and one of his lesser demons
>> avoided speaking or looking at me, so there is that.  I live
>> rent-free in their heads, fun!  I did speak to the other one who
>> was there, he is a compromised fool too, but he is somewhat sociable.
>>
>> This new Chairman is in our sights, we got the former one ejected
>> so our next project is to expose this one too.  It is fun, he did
>> himself no favors the other night, and actively insulted members
>> of the community. It was quite bizarre.  But I had to say nothing
>> after my pre-agitation and getting a good turnout there of a bunch
>> of primed citizens who did their own bit of mau-mauing.  One of my
>> buddies got some heckling started too so that was kinda fun.  He
>> got a directed insult from the Chairman too, so that was a score.
>>
>> I spoke to the woman who is the road project manager after the
>> meeting, thanked her for coming out and getting beat up a bit, she
>> kinda laughed and said no problem then thanked me for working to
>> get the turnout there, "that was you doing that, right?" with a
>> bit of a grin... Who me?  No ma'am, not at all... why might you
>> think that?
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/17 12:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>>> So were you taking careful notes or joining in the outrage?
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I have given up on even paying much attention to the national
>>> political antics, nothing I can do about it so not worth
>>> getting worked up about.  I focus on our local issues, the
>>> fools are much more accessible.  The other night there was a
>>> community meeting about a road project, the woman who is the
>>> County project manager gave an overview of the project, what
>>> to expect, etc.  Then of course the POed people in the room
>>> started in on her, at which point the County Council
>>> chairman, who is a raging a**h*** got the mikafone and
>>> proceeded to berate the citizens, which Did Not Go Over Well
>>> with many of them, who became quite vociferous in their
>>> disregard for him.  There were 2 other Council members there
>>> too, who managed to keep a low profile while this fool took
>>> the heat that he turned up.
>>>
>>> You couldn't do that with the national administration
>>> functionaries.
>>>
>>> --FT
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/30/17 7:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> No I knew about it having been a swamp what I honestly
>>> don't understand is who they thought would be qualified
>>> to work on things? Did they think that Trump's HUD
>>> secretary would be a carpenter from Des Moines? Health
>>> and Human Services could be a Physician's Assistant from
>>> Duluth?
>>> Of course they're insiders, those are the people who
>>> understand how big organizations work. As I said before
>>> its just a new bunch of idjits to replace the old bunch
>>> of idjits. I'm not suggesting its good or bad, just
>>> different and maybe kind of interesting.
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>> >
>>>   To: Mercedes List >> >
>>> Cc: Dan Penoff >
>>>   Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:42 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Diesel Is Back!
>>> Without diving into politics, the District of
>>> Columbia was/is on a swamp if you weren’t aware of this.
>>>  The phrase “Drain the swamp” simply refers to removing
>>> all the 

Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I cracked the lines coming off the injector distributor (whatever it is 
called) and got a bit of fuel out of the one to the rear. The front one 
goes through something that looks like a filter or regulator or 
something, then down to the engine in front, then another hose comes 
back up and then towards the tank, I'm thinking this is the return and 
the rear one is the supply line.  But no fuel when the switch is on, so 
I guess either the pump is not pumping or the filter is clogged.  I 
checked the fuses, there was not one for the pump but there is a relay, 
I pulled it and jumped the pins that supposedly energize the pump but 
still got no flow. I'll have to check at the pump to see if it has power 
and if it is running.  I guess if the filter is clogged nothing will get 
through anyway.


One of the relays on the fuse block was really hot, I'm wondering if it 
is the fuel pump relay and it is sticking.  The diagram in the manual 
suggests it is a seat adjuster relay, not sure why it would be drawing 
lots of power or be so hot unless some motor is not motoring and the 
switch is shorted or something.


There is an over voltage protection relay too, not sure what that 
protects, will have to check the fuses on it, maybe one is related to 
the fuel pump or tranny?  Damn wouldn't that be something, a $0.15 fuse 
keeping the tranny inop...


--FT


On 4/30/17 2:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Unless they ran it till it was completely dry then it was bound to have some 
fuel in the tank. The fuel will be in the lines as well which will be just like 
the fuel in the tank, which you don't want getting to the distributor

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

The Klebster is right on, but if that is the case then nearly everything 
crud-wise will be in the filter, so dump it and install a new one before you do 
amy more.

If the tank was completely dry as you describe it’s unlikely anything came off 
when you filled it, there just might have been some crud in it that will be 
caught by the strainer and filter.  As fresh fuel sits in the tank things might 
start loosening up and floating around, however.  Best to buy a couple of spare 
filters.

No need to panic at this point.

-D




On Apr 30, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

There was nothing in the tank but I guess I loosed it all by putting in new 
fuel.  But yeah...

--FT



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petty,
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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Amperage not a great idea, because most electronics power supplies,
especially the small ones, have a poor power factor.  Billable watts, in
AC, is _not_ just V times A, you also have to multiply in the 0-1 power
factor.

Simplest possible thing to do is use the Kill-A-Watt, which is cheap and
handles the power factor calculations for you.  (By integrating the
instantaneous VA product over the cycles of power.)  It also will sum up
Watt-hours, so you can calculate the effect on your power bill.  Plug your
refrigerator into it for a week, and see what that appliance really costs
you, for example.

Highly recommended.  I have two of them.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

A few days ago I decided I needed to know whether my 2KW Honda genset would 
provide enough juice to keep the fridge and freezer going if Kim sent us an 
EMP. I googled and found that it would, and that a laptop uses 20-25W.

Of course an EMP would likely kill the Honda anyway.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 9:13 AM
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Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

Anyone know how to determine power consumption on a Win7 machine?  Is there a 
built-in software that does that, or do I need to install something?

I'd like to get a general idea of overall power usage, but it would be nice to 
drill down a bit further to see how much is display, hard drive, etc.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

What Floyd said. Both of my 1990 W126 chassis' cars are wired directly to the 
switch.  This I know as I disconnected the motor on my 300SEL in order to 
remove it from the door.

-D

> On May 1, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No.  The 84 SDs have that arrangement but this 88 the motor wires are right 
> in the switch block, green and black.  The switch has 3 other wires going 
> into it, I guess power, ground, and power from the front switch.  That was 
> new to me and it made me wonder what they were thinking as it is not "easy" 
> to disconnect them like with the screw terminal or a plug.  Not your general 
> Hun engineer forethought it seemed to me.  The motors looked a bit smaller 
> too, but maybe I misremember.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/1/17 1:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> The wires to the motors should go to a double wiring block deal in the door 
>> with 2 Phillips head screws. Does yours not have this?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since I didn't sget the car started I worked on the LR window, which was 
>>> down and wouldn't move.  Looked like the PO had started to take it apart 
>>> and gave up.  Having considerable experience in windows I got it apart 
>>> right quick and saw a busted plastic slide.  I fortunately had one (2 
>>> actually, I buggered one trying to peen the post) so got the regulator out 
>>> (and for some reason the motors don't have a connector, they are wired 
>>> directly to the switch, and getting the wire off involves taking the switch 
>>> apart, no thanks, so just removed the motor from the regulator) and the 
>>> slide put on, got it put back and window works!  Yay!  Accomplishment for 
>>> the day!
>>> 
>>> I have some cleaning to do, and it is actually pretty clean inside, and 
>>> assuming I get it running, and diagnose the tranny issue and deal with 
>>> that, this is a very nice car, looks to have been pretty well taken care of.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --FT
>>> Winston Churchill:
>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, 
>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
>>> the enemy.”
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No.  The 84 SDs have that arrangement but this 88 the motor wires are 
right in the switch block, green and black.  The switch has 3 other 
wires going into it, I guess power, ground, and power from the front 
switch.  That was new to me and it made me wonder what they were 
thinking as it is not "easy" to disconnect them like with the screw 
terminal or a plug.  Not your general Hun engineer forethought it seemed 
to me.  The motors looked a bit smaller too, but maybe I misremember.


--FT


On 5/1/17 1:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

The wires to the motors should go to a double wiring block deal in the door 
with 2 Phillips head screws. Does yours not have this?

Sent from my iPhone


On May 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Since I didn't sget the car started I worked on the LR window, which was down 
and wouldn't move.  Looked like the PO had started to take it apart and gave 
up.  Having considerable experience in windows I got it apart right quick and 
saw a busted plastic slide.  I fortunately had one (2 actually, I buggered one 
trying to peen the post) so got the regulator out (and for some reason the 
motors don't have a connector, they are wired directly to the switch, and 
getting the wire off involves taking the switch apart, no thanks, so just 
removed the motor from the regulator) and the slide put on, got it put back and 
window works!  Yay!  Accomplishment for the day!

I have some cleaning to do, and it is actually pretty clean inside, and 
assuming I get it running, and diagnose the tranny issue and deal with that, 
this is a very nice car, looks to have been pretty well taken care of.

--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I am thinkin they are talking about gen 1 126.  I seem to think the 
terminal block was present on gen 2 126.  Been a while since I worked on 
a 126 motor.  I've never touched a gen 1.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 12:28 PM
The wires to the motors should go to a double wiring block deal in the 
door with 2 Phillips head screws. Does yours not have this?




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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

'Xactly!Not to mention unconstitutional


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 12:13 PM


Kind of like taking a literacy test and paying your poll tax to vote.
Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The wires to the motors should go to a double wiring block deal in the door 
with 2 Phillips head screws. Does yours not have this?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since I didn't sget the car started I worked on the LR window, which was down 
> and wouldn't move.  Looked like the PO had started to take it apart and gave 
> up.  Having considerable experience in windows I got it apart right quick and 
> saw a busted plastic slide.  I fortunately had one (2 actually, I buggered 
> one trying to peen the post) so got the regulator out (and for some reason 
> the motors don't have a connector, they are wired directly to the switch, and 
> getting the wire off involves taking the switch apart, no thanks, so just 
> removed the motor from the regulator) and the slide put on, got it put back 
> and window works!  Yay!  Accomplishment for the day!
> 
> I have some cleaning to do, and it is actually pretty clean inside, and 
> assuming I get it running, and diagnose the tranny issue and deal with that, 
> this is a very nice car, looks to have been pretty well taken care of.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Politics Is Back!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Unfortunately in my district my melanin content is insufficient to 
launch a successful campaign.  I am working with a woman who has the 
proper credentials in that regard, and is also otherwise extremely 
well-qualified, who is extremely interested, so that might work out better.


Plus, if I ever got elected I would have to deal with people like me all 
day, which would make me want to eat my gun.


--FT (bombthrower)


On 5/1/17 1:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Sounds like you are consolidating your political base, just in time 
for the next local election.


On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Floyd Thursby 
> wrote:


HA!  I've seen this movie so many times, and actually wrote some
of the scripts.  The main fool and one of his lesser demons
avoided speaking or looking at me, so there is that.  I live
rent-free in their heads, fun!  I did speak to the other one who
was there, he is a compromised fool too, but he is somewhat sociable.

This new Chairman is in our sights, we got the former one ejected
so our next project is to expose this one too.  It is fun, he did
himself no favors the other night, and actively insulted members
of the community. It was quite bizarre.  But I had to say nothing
after my pre-agitation and getting a good turnout there of a bunch
of primed citizens who did their own bit of mau-mauing.  One of my
buddies got some heckling started too so that was kinda fun.  He
got a directed insult from the Chairman too, so that was a score.

I spoke to the woman who is the road project manager after the
meeting, thanked her for coming out and getting beat up a bit, she
kinda laughed and said no problem then thanked me for working to
get the turnout there, "that was you doing that, right?" with a
bit of a grin... Who me?  No ma'am, not at all... why might you
think that?

--FT


On 5/1/17 12:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

So were you taking careful notes or joining in the outrage?

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:

I have given up on even paying much attention to the national
political antics, nothing I can do about it so not worth
getting worked up about.  I focus on our local issues, the
fools are much more accessible.  The other night there was a
community meeting about a road project, the woman who is the
County project manager gave an overview of the project, what
to expect, etc.  Then of course the POed people in the room
started in on her, at which point the County Council
chairman, who is a raging a**h*** got the mikafone and
proceeded to berate the citizens, which Did Not Go Over Well
with many of them, who became quite vociferous in their
disregard for him.  There were 2 other Council members there
too, who managed to keep a low profile while this fool took
the heat that he turned up.

You couldn't do that with the national administration
functionaries.

--FT


On 4/30/17 7:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

No I knew about it having been a swamp what I honestly
don't understand is who they thought would be qualified
to work on things? Did they think that Trump's HUD
secretary would be a carpenter from Des Moines? Health
and Human Services could be a Physician's Assistant from
Duluth?
Of course they're insiders, those are the people who
understand how big organizations work. As I said before
its just a new bunch of idjits to replace the old bunch
of idjits. I'm not suggesting its good or bad, just
different and maybe kind of interesting.
-Curt


   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>
  To: Mercedes List >
Cc: Dan Penoff >
  Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Diesel Is Back!
Without diving into politics, the District of
Columbia was/is on a swamp if you weren’t aware of this. 
The phrase “Drain the swamp” simply refers to removing

all the allegedly (don’t go there, Curley!) “crooked”
politicians and “good old boys” in order to bring in new
people who would be fresh blood and not part of the
“Washington establishment”.

This is not a political comment, just a clarification of
a statement, so let’s not turn it into one, please.

And Curt, if you already understood 

Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
May 1, 2017 at 11:15 AM
Kill-A-Watt meter would be the only real way to know. I don't think 
the computer keeps track of the individual bits.Its also going to vary 
wildly based on what you're doing...

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How so?

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On May 1, 2017 at 12:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > MA has an interesting mix of gun laws ranging from daconian to no big
> deal. For the most part its no big deal, to get an FID (for ownership of
> long guns, rifles and shotguns) you take a safety class, fill out a form
> and pay a fee, no big whoop and a safety class is probably a good idea for
> most everybody.
>
>
> Kind of like taking a literacy test and paying your poll tax to vote.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks gents, couple of good ideas there.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 1, 2017 12:36:42 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Or, if you already have a clamp on type ammeter, there is an accessory 
>that you can get that essentially splits the lines so that you can 
>measure the one side. (or you could easily make one by taking an 
>extension cord and splitting it down the seam so that you can clamp on 
>to only the one half of it)  That will tell you the amperage draw and 
>permit you to calculate the wattage being used.
>
>RB
>
>On 01/05/2017 11:15 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Kill-A-Watt meter would be the only real way to know. I don't think
>the computer keeps track of the individual bits.Its also going to vary
>wildly based on what you're doing...
>> -Curt
>>
>>From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>   To: Mercedes 
>> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>>   Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:13 PM
>>   Subject: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption
>> 
>> Anyone know how to determine power consumption on a Win7 machine?  Is
>there
>> a built-in software that does that, or do I need to install
>something?
>>
>> I'd like to get a general idea of overall power usage, but it would
>be nice
>> to drill down a bit further to see how much is display, hard drive,
>etc.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

There doesn't seem to be any way to predict what will strike the publics fancy.
Who would have thought that little turtles (Ninja Turtles) would intrigue small 
boys?
Gerry

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Shocking lack of interest in a very clean car that might - within the next
> couple decades- be considered a collector's classic.  This was built in the
> days when fake wood REALLY looked fake.  Gotta love the tufted leather
> seats, though, as well as the near mint condition and low mileage.  What's
> the catch?
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-cadillac-eldorado/
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Politics Is Back!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

HA!  I've seen this movie so many times, and actually wrote some of the 
scripts.  The main fool and one of his lesser demons avoided speaking or 
looking at me, so there is that.  I live rent-free in their heads, fun!  
I did speak to the other one who was there, he is a compromised fool 
too, but he is somewhat sociable.


This new Chairman is in our sights, we got the former one ejected so our 
next project is to expose this one too.  It is fun, he did himself no 
favors the other night, and actively insulted members of the community.  
It was quite bizarre.  But I had to say nothing after my pre-agitation 
and getting a good turnout there of a bunch of primed citizens who did 
their own bit of mau-mauing.  One of my buddies got some heckling 
started too so that was kinda fun.  He got a directed insult from the 
Chairman too, so that was a score.


I spoke to the woman who is the road project manager after the meeting, 
thanked her for coming out and getting beat up a bit, she kinda laughed 
and said no problem then thanked me for working to get the turnout 
there, "that was you doing that, right?" with a bit of a grin... Who 
me?  No ma'am, not at all... why might you think that?


--FT


On 5/1/17 12:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

So were you taking careful notes or joining in the outrage?

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


I have given up on even paying much attention to the national
political antics, nothing I can do about it so not worth getting
worked up about.  I focus on our local issues, the fools are much
more accessible.  The other night there was a community meeting
about a road project, the woman who is the County project manager
gave an overview of the project, what to expect, etc.  Then of
course the POed people in the room started in on her, at which
point the County Council chairman, who is a raging a**h*** got the
mikafone and proceeded to berate the citizens, which Did Not Go
Over Well with many of them, who became quite vociferous in their
disregard for him.  There were 2 other Council members there too,
who managed to keep a low profile while this fool took the heat
that he turned up.

You couldn't do that with the national administration functionaries.

--FT


On 4/30/17 7:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

No I knew about it having been a swamp what I honestly don't
understand is who they thought would be qualified to work on
things? Did they think that Trump's HUD secretary would be a
carpenter from Des Moines? Health and Human Services could be
a Physician's Assistant from Duluth?
Of course they're insiders, those are the people who
understand how big organizations work. As I said before its
just a new bunch of idjits to replace the old bunch of idjits.
I'm not suggesting its good or bad, just different and maybe
kind of interesting.
-Curt


   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes >
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Cc: Dan Penoff >
  Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Diesel Is Back!
Without diving into politics, the District of Columbia
was/is on a swamp if you weren’t aware of this.  The phrase
“Drain the swamp” simply refers to removing all the allegedly
(don’t go there, Curley!) “crooked” politicians and “good old
boys” in order to bring in new people who would be fresh blood
and not part of the “Washington establishment”.

This is not a political comment, just a clarification of a
statement, so let’s not turn it into one, please.

And Curt, if you already understood all this, my apologies for
misunderstanding your statements and mansplaining.

-D


On Apr 30, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:

I've never understood what "drain the swamp" was supposed
to mean. Did people think he was going to hire plumbers?At
least Wal-Street bankers comprise a new crop of idiots
rather than establishment idiots...
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

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> On May 1, 2017 at 12:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> MA has an interesting mix of gun laws ranging from daconian to no big deal. 
> For the most part its no big deal, to get an FID (for ownership of long guns, 
> rifles and shotguns) you take a safety class, fill out a form and pay a fee, 
> no big whoop and a safety class is probably a good idea for most everybody.


Kind of like taking a literacy test and paying your poll tax to vote. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I know a guy who's settling his brother's estate. 
One of the few remaining cars is a fully restored Toronado. 
"Is that a 1966 or one of the big Caddyfied ones?"
"Neither, it's one of the last ones they made"

I didn't think to ask what he was hoping to get for it. 
Mitch.

> On May 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> My 76 Eldo convertible, the last of huge gas guzzlers, is a total POS 
> build-wise, material-wise, etc.  Its fairly agricultural design is OK to 
> work on, so it has that going for it.  It's great for cruising down the 
> road at some fairly fast clip, but as for doing much else besides 
> Stylin' it is totally and completely inadequate.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 5/1/17 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Surely you jest. Nobody will ever consider that a classic, unless its as an 
> > example of "Classic American car maker mistakes".A front wheel drive v8 
> > making less power than most of today's 4 cylinders. I want to puke just 
> > looking at it. A nightmare to own and drive...
> > -Curt
> >
> >From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >   To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >   Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 11:46 AM
> >   Subject: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado
> > 
> > Shocking lack of interest in a very clean car that might - within the next
> > couple decades- be considered a collector's classic.  This was built in the
> > days when fake wood REALLY looked fake.  Gotta love the tufted leather
> > seats, though, as well as the near mint condition and low mileage.  What's
> > the catch?
> >
> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-cadillac-eldorado/
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> Winston Churchill:
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Politics Is Back!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sounds like you are consolidating your political base, just in time for the
next local election.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Floyd Thursby 
wrote:

> HA!  I've seen this movie so many times, and actually wrote some of the
> scripts.  The main fool and one of his lesser demons avoided speaking or
> looking at me, so there is that.  I live rent-free in their heads, fun!  I
> did speak to the other one who was there, he is a compromised fool too, but
> he is somewhat sociable.
>
> This new Chairman is in our sights, we got the former one ejected so our
> next project is to expose this one too.  It is fun, he did himself no
> favors the other night, and actively insulted members of the community.  It
> was quite bizarre.  But I had to say nothing after my pre-agitation and
> getting a good turnout there of a bunch of primed citizens who did their
> own bit of mau-mauing.  One of my buddies got some heckling started too so
> that was kinda fun.  He got a directed insult from the Chairman too, so
> that was a score.
>
> I spoke to the woman who is the road project manager after the meeting,
> thanked her for coming out and getting beat up a bit, she kinda laughed and
> said no problem then thanked me for working to get the turnout there, "that
> was you doing that, right?" with a bit of a grin... Who me?  No ma'am, not
> at all... why might you think that?
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/1/17 12:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> So were you taking careful notes or joining in the outrage?
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I have given up on even paying much attention to the national political
>> antics, nothing I can do about it so not worth getting worked up about.  I
>> focus on our local issues, the fools are much more accessible.  The other
>> night there was a community meeting about a road project, the woman who is
>> the County project manager gave an overview of the project, what to expect,
>> etc.  Then of course the POed people in the room started in on her, at
>> which point the County Council chairman, who is a raging a**h*** got the
>> mikafone and proceeded to berate the citizens, which Did Not Go Over Well
>> with many of them, who became quite vociferous in their disregard for him.
>> There were 2 other Council members there too, who managed to keep a low
>> profile while this fool took the heat that he turned up.
>>
>> You couldn't do that with the national administration functionaries.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 4/30/17 7:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> No I knew about it having been a swamp what I honestly don't understand
>>> is who they thought would be qualified to work on things? Did they think
>>> that Trump's HUD secretary would be a carpenter from Des Moines? Health and
>>> Human Services could be a Physician's Assistant from Duluth?
>>> Of course they're insiders, those are the people who understand how big
>>> organizations work. As I said before its just a new bunch of idjits to
>>> replace the old bunch of idjits. I'm not suggesting its good or bad, just
>>> different and maybe kind of interesting.
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>   To: Mercedes List 
>>> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>>>   Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:42 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Diesel Is Back!
>>> Without diving into politics, the District of Columbia was/is on a
>>> swamp if you weren’t aware of this.  The phrase “Drain the swamp” simply
>>> refers to removing all the allegedly (don’t go there, Curley!) “crooked”
>>> politicians and “good old boys” in order to bring in new people who would
>>> be fresh blood and not part of the “Washington establishment”.
>>>
>>> This is not a political comment, just a clarification of a statement, so
>>> let’s not turn it into one, please.
>>>
>>> And Curt, if you already understood all this, my apologies for
>>> misunderstanding your statements and mansplaining.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 I've never understood what "drain the swamp" was supposed to mean. Did
 people think he was going to hire plumbers?At least Wal-Street bankers
 comprise a new crop of idiots rather than establishment idiots...
 -Curt



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Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Curt - Quit beating around the bush.  Don't be afraid to express an opinion.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Why? It was garbage when it was made, 30 years of "preservation" haven't
> made it any better. That '83 handles poorly, accelerates poorly, stops
> poorly and guzzles gas, it has zero redeeming value.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> --
> *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> *To:* Mercedes Discussion List 
> *Cc:* Andrew Strasfogel 
> *Sent:* Monday, May 1, 2017 12:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado
>
> I just think ANY well preserved 30+ American v8 car - especially a Caddy -
> has to be worth at least $k.
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > My 76 Eldo convertible, the last of huge gas guzzlers, is a total POS
> > build-wise, material-wise, etc.  Its fairly agricultural design is OK to
> > work on, so it has that going for it.  It's great for cruising down the
> > road at some fairly fast clip, but as for doing much else besides Stylin'
> > it is totally and completely inadequate.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 5/1/17 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Surely you jest. Nobody will ever consider that a classic, unless its as
> >> an example of "Classic American car maker mistakes".A front wheel drive
> v8
> >> making less power than most of today's 4 cylinders. I want to puke just
> >> looking at it. A nightmare to own and drive...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >>  Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 11:46 AM
> >>  Subject: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado
> >>Shocking lack of interest in a very clean car that might - within the
> >> next
> >> couple decades- be considered a collector's classic.  This was built in
> >> the
> >> days when fake wood REALLY looked fake.  Gotta love the tufted leather
> >> seats, though, as well as the near mint condition and low mileage.
> What's
> >> the catch?
> >>
> >> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-cadillac-eldorado/
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> > large or petty,
> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> > Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Why? It was garbage when it was made, 30 years of "preservation" haven't made 
it any better. That '83 handles poorly, accelerates poorly, stops poorly and 
guzzles gas, it has zero redeeming value.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado
   
I just think ANY well preserved 30+ American v8 car - especially a Caddy -
has to be worth at least $k.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My 76 Eldo convertible, the last of huge gas guzzlers, is a total POS
> build-wise, material-wise, etc.  Its fairly agricultural design is OK to
> work on, so it has that going for it.  It's great for cruising down the
> road at some fairly fast clip, but as for doing much else besides Stylin'
> it is totally and completely inadequate.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 5/1/17 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Surely you jest. Nobody will ever consider that a classic, unless its as
>> an example of "Classic American car maker mistakes".A front wheel drive v8
>> making less power than most of today's 4 cylinders. I want to puke just
>> looking at it. A nightmare to own and drive...
>> -Curt
>>
>>        From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>>  Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 11:46 AM
>>  Subject: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado
>>    Shocking lack of interest in a very clean car that might - within the
>> next
>> couple decades- be considered a collector's classic.  This was built in
>> the
>> days when fake wood REALLY looked fake.  Gotta love the tufted leather
>> seats, though, as well as the near mint condition and low mileage.  What's
>> the catch?
>>
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-cadillac-eldorado/
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> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Why?

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> People there should read the constitution and the amendments.
>
>
>>
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> April 30, 2017 at 6:40 PM
>> I still haven't managed to work out my firearms license so no repeating
>> arms for me. Besides what is life without challenge? Theres a reason I
>> don't drive a Prius and watch TV all day...
>>
>>
>> -Curt
>>
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Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I just think ANY well preserved 30+ American v8 car - especially a Caddy -
has to be worth at least $k.

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My 76 Eldo convertible, the last of huge gas guzzlers, is a total POS
> build-wise, material-wise, etc.  Its fairly agricultural design is OK to
> work on, so it has that going for it.  It's great for cruising down the
> road at some fairly fast clip, but as for doing much else besides Stylin'
> it is totally and completely inadequate.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 5/1/17 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Surely you jest. Nobody will ever consider that a classic, unless its as
>> an example of "Classic American car maker mistakes".A front wheel drive v8
>> making less power than most of today's 4 cylinders. I want to puke just
>> looking at it. A nightmare to own and drive...
>> -Curt
>>
>>From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>   To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>>   Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 11:46 AM
>>   Subject: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado
>> Shocking lack of interest in a very clean car that might - within the
>> next
>> couple decades- be considered a collector's classic.  This was built in
>> the
>> days when fake wood REALLY looked fake.  Gotta love the tufted leather
>> seats, though, as well as the near mint condition and low mileage.  What's
>> the catch?
>>
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-cadillac-eldorado/
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Yes, the W126 window motors are wired directly to the switch. You chose wisely 
by removing the motor in situ.  That's what I had to do when I replaced the 
"sliding jaw" on the LR window regulator on the 300SEL.

-D

> On May 1, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since I didn't get the car started I worked on the LR window, which was down 
> and wouldn't move.  Looked like the PO had started to take it apart and gave 
> up.  Having considerable experience in windows I got it apart right quick and 
> saw a busted plastic slide.  I fortunately had one (2 actually, I buggered 
> one trying to peen the post) so got the regulator out (and for some reason 
> the motors don't have a connector, they are wired directly to the switch, and 
> getting the wire off involves taking the switch apart, no thanks, so just 
> removed the motor from the regulator) and the slide put on, got it put back 
> and window works!  Yay!  Accomplishment for the day!
> 
> I have some cleaning to do, and it is actually pretty clean inside, and 
> assuming I get it running, and diagnose the tranny issue and deal with that, 
> this is a very nice car, looks to have been pretty well taken care of.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Politics Is Back!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So were you taking careful notes or joining in the outrage?

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have given up on even paying much attention to the national political
> antics, nothing I can do about it so not worth getting worked up about.  I
> focus on our local issues, the fools are much more accessible.  The other
> night there was a community meeting about a road project, the woman who is
> the County project manager gave an overview of the project, what to expect,
> etc.  Then of course the POed people in the room started in on her, at
> which point the County Council chairman, who is a raging a**h*** got the
> mikafone and proceeded to berate the citizens, which Did Not Go Over Well
> with many of them, who became quite vociferous in their disregard for him.
> There were 2 other Council members there too, who managed to keep a low
> profile while this fool took the heat that he turned up.
>
> You couldn't do that with the national administration functionaries.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 4/30/17 7:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> No I knew about it having been a swamp what I honestly don't understand
>> is who they thought would be qualified to work on things? Did they think
>> that Trump's HUD secretary would be a carpenter from Des Moines? Health and
>> Human Services could be a Physician's Assistant from Duluth?
>> Of course they're insiders, those are the people who understand how big
>> organizations work. As I said before its just a new bunch of idjits to
>> replace the old bunch of idjits. I'm not suggesting its good or bad, just
>> different and maybe kind of interesting.
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>>From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>   To: Mercedes List 
>> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>>   Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:42 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Diesel Is Back!
>> Without diving into politics, the District of Columbia was/is on a
>> swamp if you weren’t aware of this.  The phrase “Drain the swamp” simply
>> refers to removing all the allegedly (don’t go there, Curley!) “crooked”
>> politicians and “good old boys” in order to bring in new people who would
>> be fresh blood and not part of the “Washington establishment”.
>>
>> This is not a political comment, just a clarification of a statement, so
>> let’s not turn it into one, please.
>>
>> And Curt, if you already understood all this, my apologies for
>> misunderstanding your statements and mansplaining.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never understood what "drain the swamp" was supposed to mean. Did
>>> people think he was going to hire plumbers?At least Wal-Street bankers
>>> comprise a new crop of idiots rather than establishment idiots...
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] Resurrecting POSEL -- getting it to light off

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Since I didn't get the car started I worked on the LR window, which was 
down and wouldn't move.  Looked like the PO had started to take it apart 
and gave up.  Having considerable experience in windows I got it apart 
right quick and saw a busted plastic slide.  I fortunately had one (2 
actually, I buggered one trying to peen the post) so got the regulator 
out (and for some reason the motors don't have a connector, they are 
wired directly to the switch, and getting the wire off involves taking 
the switch apart, no thanks, so just removed the motor from the 
regulator) and the slide put on, got it put back and window works!  
Yay!  Accomplishment for the day!


I have some cleaning to do, and it is actually pretty clean inside, and 
assuming I get it running, and diagnose the tranny issue and deal with 
that, this is a very nice car, looks to have been pretty well taken care of.


--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Or, if you already have a clamp on type ammeter, there is an accessory 
that you can get that essentially splits the lines so that you can 
measure the one side. (or you could easily make one by taking an 
extension cord and splitting it down the seam so that you can clamp on 
to only the one half of it)  That will tell you the amperage draw and 
permit you to calculate the wattage being used.


RB

On 01/05/2017 11:15 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Kill-A-Watt meter would be the only real way to know. I don't think the 
computer keeps track of the individual bits.Its also going to vary wildly based 
on what you're doing...
-Curt

   From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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  Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:13 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

Anyone know how to determine power consumption on a Win7 machine?  Is there

a built-in software that does that, or do I need to install something?

I'd like to get a general idea of overall power usage, but it would be nice
to drill down a bit further to see how much is display, hard drive, etc.
-
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Kill-A-Watt meter would be the only real way to know. I don't think the 
computer keeps track of the individual bits.Its also going to vary wildly based 
on what you're doing...
-Curt

  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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Cc: Meade Dillon 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:13 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT laptop power consumption
   
Anyone know how to determine power consumption on a Win7 machine?  Is there
a built-in software that does that, or do I need to install something?

I'd like to get a general idea of overall power usage, but it would be nice
to drill down a bit further to see how much is display, hard drive, etc.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Oh that reminds me I need to send in my CWP application, took the class 
(joke), shot 50 rounds, scored "100" (not sure what the measurement 
criteria were, I guess I hit the target 50 times), and need to go to the 
sheriff to get fingerprinted.  Unless the legislature passes 
Constitutional Carry in the next week or two...


--FT


On 5/1/17 12:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

MA has an interesting mix of gun laws ranging from daconian to no big deal. For 
the most part its no big deal, to get an FID (for ownership of long guns, 
rifles and shotguns) you take a safety class, fill out a form and pay a fee, no 
big whoop and a safety class is probably a good idea for most everybody.
To own a pistol you need a concealed carry permit. Since this is determined by 
your local police chief it occasionally gets draconian, like here in Winchendon 
which is apparently one of the most difficult towns in the state. They still 
almost always approve but usually with restrictions.I just haven't gotten 
around to doing it yet...
-Curt

   From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
  Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

People there should read the constitution and the amendments.




Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 6:40 PM
I still haven't managed to work out my firearms license so no
repeating arms for me. Besides what is life without challenge? Theres
a reason I don't drive a Prius and watch TV all day...


-Curt

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[MBZ] OT laptop power consumption

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Anyone know how to determine power consumption on a Win7 machine?  Is there
a built-in software that does that, or do I need to install something?

I'd like to get a general idea of overall power usage, but it would be nice
to drill down a bit further to see how much is display, hard drive, etc.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] A suggestion . . .

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Lube the pins that the caliper slides on. I'd assumed the calipers in Angie's 
Golf were bad since one sticked, when I replaced them the replacement stuck the 
same way. Turns out the pins on that one were stuck. It took some heat to get 
the pin free...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:07 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] A suggestion . . .
   
For those of you far enough south that you don't swap to winter tires 
and rims, it might be a good idea to pull the wheels and have a look at 
the brakes.

I put the summer wheels and tires back on the Civic and the Accord this 
weekend. The Civic looked fine. 3 out of 4 wheels on the Accord looked 
good. The left rear did not. The brake pads were sticking and not 
sliding back and forth as they ought to. The result is pads worn 
unevenly, and a rotor showing signs of corrosion. I had to knock the 
pads out with a hammer. I ground the tabs a bit to give them some 
clearance and put them back in for now but will get new pads and at 
least one rotor. Rotors and pads were new about 18 months ago and would 
not have more than 10 to 15 K miles on them.

If I had not been swapping wheels, I likely would not have found this 
for a while. It is my wife's car and I rarely drive it. She has not 
commented on the quality of the braking or any odd noises. I rode with 
her to dinner on Friday evening and I did not hear anything either so we 
had no real reason to be concerned about it.

I need to get the Mercedes out. It has been in my son's garage all 
winter but he is making noises about wanting it gone so I had better get 
to it.

RB




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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

MA has an interesting mix of gun laws ranging from daconian to no big deal. For 
the most part its no big deal, to get an FID (for ownership of long guns, 
rifles and shotguns) you take a safety class, fill out a form and pay a fee, no 
big whoop and a safety class is probably a good idea for most everybody.
To own a pistol you need a concealed carry permit. Since this is determined by 
your local police chief it occasionally gets draconian, like here in Winchendon 
which is apparently one of the most difficult towns in the state. They still 
almost always approve but usually with restrictions.I just haven't gotten 
around to doing it yet...
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic
   
People there should read the constitution and the amendments.

>
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> April 30, 2017 at 6:40 PM
> I still haven't managed to work out my firearms license so no 
> repeating arms for me. Besides what is life without challenge? Theres 
> a reason I don't drive a Prius and watch TV all day...
>
>
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My 76 Eldo convertible, the last of huge gas guzzlers, is a total POS 
build-wise, material-wise, etc.  Its fairly agricultural design is OK to 
work on, so it has that going for it.  It's great for cruising down the 
road at some fairly fast clip, but as for doing much else besides 
Stylin' it is totally and completely inadequate.


--FT


On 5/1/17 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Surely you jest. Nobody will ever consider that a classic, unless its as an example of 
"Classic American car maker mistakes".A front wheel drive v8 making less power 
than most of today's 4 cylinders. I want to puke just looking at it. A nightmare to own 
and drive...
-Curt

   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
  Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 11:46 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

Shocking lack of interest in a very clean car that might - within the next

couple decades- be considered a collector's classic.  This was built in the
days when fake wood REALLY looked fake.  Gotta love the tufted leather
seats, though, as well as the near mint condition and low mileage.  What's
the catch?

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-cadillac-eldorado/
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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[MBZ] A suggestion . . .

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

For those of you far enough south that you don't swap to winter tires 
and rims, it might be a good idea to pull the wheels and have a look at 
the brakes.


I put the summer wheels and tires back on the Civic and the Accord this 
weekend. The Civic looked fine. 3 out of 4 wheels on the Accord looked 
good. The left rear did not. The brake pads were sticking and not 
sliding back and forth as they ought to. The result is pads worn 
unevenly, and a rotor showing signs of corrosion. I had to knock the 
pads out with a hammer. I ground the tabs a bit to give them some 
clearance and put them back in for now but will get new pads and at 
least one rotor. Rotors and pads were new about 18 months ago and would 
not have more than 10 to 15 K miles on them.


If I had not been swapping wheels, I likely would not have found this 
for a while. It is my wife's car and I rarely drive it. She has not 
commented on the quality of the braking or any odd noises. I rode with 
her to dinner on Friday evening and I did not hear anything either so we 
had no real reason to be concerned about it.


I need to get the Mercedes out. It has been in my son's garage all 
winter but he is making noises about wanting it gone so I had better get 
to it.


RB




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Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Politics Is Back!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have given up on even paying much attention to the national political 
antics, nothing I can do about it so not worth getting worked up about.  
I focus on our local issues, the fools are much more accessible.  The 
other night there was a community meeting about a road project, the 
woman who is the County project manager gave an overview of the project, 
what to expect, etc.  Then of course the POed people in the room started 
in on her, at which point the County Council chairman, who is a raging 
a**h*** got the mikafone and proceeded to berate the citizens, which Did 
Not Go Over Well with many of them, who became quite vociferous in their 
disregard for him.  There were 2 other Council members there too, who 
managed to keep a low profile while this fool took the heat that he 
turned up.


You couldn't do that with the national administration functionaries.

--FT


On 4/30/17 7:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

No I knew about it having been a swamp what I honestly don't understand is who 
they thought would be qualified to work on things? Did they think that Trump's 
HUD secretary would be a carpenter from Des Moines? Health and Human Services 
could be a Physician's Assistant from Duluth?
Of course they're insiders, those are the people who understand how big 
organizations work. As I said before its just a new bunch of idjits to replace 
the old bunch of idjits. I'm not suggesting its good or bad, just different and 
maybe kind of interesting.
-Curt


   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
  Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry, Our Diesel Is Back!

Without diving into politics, the District of Columbia was/is on a swamp if you weren’t aware of this.  The phrase “Drain the swamp” simply refers to removing all the allegedly (don’t go there, Curley!) “crooked” politicians and “good old boys” in order to bring in new people who would be fresh blood and not part of the “Washington establishment”.


This is not a political comment, just a clarification of a statement, so let’s 
not turn it into one, please.

And Curt, if you already understood all this, my apologies for misunderstanding 
your statements and mansplaining.

-D



On Apr 30, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

I've never understood what "drain the swamp" was supposed to mean. Did people 
think he was going to hire plumbers?At least Wal-Street bankers comprise a new crop of 
idiots rather than establishment idiots...
-Curt




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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

People there should read the constitution and the amendments.




Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
April 30, 2017 at 6:40 PM
I still haven't managed to work out my firearms license so no 
repeating arms for me. Besides what is life without challenge? Theres 
a reason I don't drive a Prius and watch TV all day...



-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] The Next Question

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If you don't need the lights to last more than four hours, consult your 
UROlogist


--FT


On 4/30/17 9:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, for something cosmetic like this I would be OK with URO.  I can’t believe 
I’m saying that, but since Bosch headlight doors for the W123 are NLA, URO is 
the only choice anymore.

And as this is a bottom feeder car, so why dump money into it for something 
like a headlight door?

-D



On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Uro headlight doors are fine

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 30, 2017, at 7:59 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:

Allen is a Gen I w126 that had screwed up fog lights, so I put in a set of Gen 
II lights.  These are pretty ok, but I think the doors are original and are 
showing some age.   Having dealt with a few of these headlight doors at PnP, 
they tend to disintegrate after 30 years.

Being a bottom feeder, I am not prone to spending big bux for OE parts on a car 
I got for no $$$.  There are a few solutions, but the two that seem most 
reasonable to a cheap SOB, are to go for the URO headlight doors, and pray they 
hold up and fit.  The other is to get a set of chinee glossy looking things 
with LED for twice the price.  That is still under $150 for sidelights and 
headlamps, and there is a single lens.

Which would you choose?


Clay

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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sunrise is so danged early this time of year. I don't really mind being up at 
6am for sunrise in November but having to drag myself out of the sack at 4:30am 
is tough.
I'm going to go put them to bed tonight so I can spot what tree they roost in 
then try to be out first thing tomorrow. Google says sunrise is 5:41am but I've 
found its pretty dang bright even at 5...
-Curt

  From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 11:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic
   
Wait.  "Firearms License"  Oh, right, you are in Massachusetts..

The turkeys start gobbling about 30min before sunrise, you can stir them 
up then with a call or some noise (like a big dumpster being unloaded 
and set down, or a come-along squeaking, or an owl call).

I have not heard any for a week or two.  Maybe the boys have calmed down 
after their rumspringa.

--FT


   
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Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Wait.  "Firearms License"  Oh, right, you are in Massachusetts..

The turkeys start gobbling about 30min before sunrise, you can stir them 
up then with a call or some noise (like a big dumpster being unloaded 
and set down, or a come-along squeaking, or an owl call).


I have not heard any for a week or two.  Maybe the boys have calmed down 
after their rumspringa.


--FT


On 4/30/17 7:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I still haven't managed to work out my firearms license so no repeating arms 
for me. Besides what is life without challenge? Theres a reason I don't drive a 
Prius and watch TV all day...


-Curt


   From: OK Don 
  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

  Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally off Topic

There's a reason that shells were invented . . . .

While we're talking shotguns, i did manage to shoot a squirrel with the .410 
this morning, despite being  on crutches due to a class 3 sprained ankle - - -
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I mentioned some time ago I'd be turkey hunting which I did Tues-Fri.
So far I've learned that to be a turkey hunter you need to be in the woods 
REALLY early, like in your spot by no later than 5:30am. I'm not built for it, 
there are morning people and those people are weirdos. Friday I went into the 
woods at 6am and for the first time actually saw some turkeys, on the road, to 
the hunting site, near houses, where I couldn't shoot them. 15 minutes later 
they'd all disappeared.
Just as well, I unloaded and cleaned the shotgun tonight (muzzleloader 
remember, its technically not loaded if theres no percussion cap even though 
its got powder) and apparently the excitement of seeing turkeys went to my 
head, I don't think there was any powder in the gun. After I loaded I started 
to walk off on Friday morning the shot poured back out of the barrel, 
apparently I had either an undersized over-shot wad or I hadn't seated it well 
enough. Either when that happened the powder also got out or I had neglected to 
put any in. I seem to remember measuring it out but...
I finally got some little plastic bottles to put individual charges of powder 
and shot (3 dram of powder, 1 1/4oz of shot) so that'll help me remember in the 
future.
So anyway, learning lots. Got some 16ga wads and Monday hit the range to try 
them out, its nice to be able to trust that the wads will hold everything where 
its supposed to be. I'll probably make a video this summer, there aren't that 
many muzzleloading shotgun videos on YouTube that are any good...
-Curt

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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Surely you jest. Nobody will ever consider that a classic, unless its as an 
example of "Classic American car maker mistakes".A front wheel drive v8 making 
less power than most of today's 4 cylinders. I want to puke just looking at it. 
A nightmare to own and drive...
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 11:46 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado
   
Shocking lack of interest in a very clean car that might - within the next
couple decades- be considered a collector's classic.  This was built in the
days when fake wood REALLY looked fake.  Gotta love the tufted leather
seats, though, as well as the near mint condition and low mileage.  What's
the catch?

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-cadillac-eldorado/
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[MBZ] No love for an '83 Eldorado

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Shocking lack of interest in a very clean car that might - within the next
couple decades- be considered a collector's classic.  This was built in the
days when fake wood REALLY looked fake.  Gotta love the tufted leather
seats, though, as well as the near mint condition and low mileage.  What's
the catch?

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-cadillac-eldorado/
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