Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I expect that it's geared such that it will be fine in town. Getting on the
freeway and keeping speed up hills might be an issue, but then there are no
hills in FL ???

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:22 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes 
wrote:

> But everyday traffic is fast these days so unless it is a garage queen to
> be polished on Sunday it needs to move right along
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-01-09  5:28 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: Dwight Giles <
> dwight.gi...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still
> available
> And not a car you buy for speed anyway.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Jan 9, 2018 1:30 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> > I think it's a lighter car than a W115 or W123 chassis - won't be as slow
> > as you think.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit
> optimistic:
> > >>
> > >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-di
> > >> esel/6452342666.html
> > >>
> > >> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800,
> > maybe,
> > >> depending on where the rust is, or not.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >> Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual
> > > transmission?
> > >
> > > RB
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Your son is correct.  In addition to a slow falloff of the blue LED's
photon emission with use, the fluorescent phosphors that are part of all
white LED's fade with use, just like old fluorescents tubes whose phosphors
are excited by high-intensity ultraviolet that comes from an electric arc
through a low-pressure mercury vapor atmosphere.  I believe it is a fairly
linear process.  IIRC, end-of-life for LED's and fluorescents is defined as
50% or thereabouts.

LED's just last a lot longer than gas-discharge or incandescent lamps.

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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

But everyday traffic is fast these days so unless it is a garage queen to be 
polished on Sunday it needs to move right along


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 Date: 2018-01-09  5:28 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Dwight Giles 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still 
available 
And not a car you buy for speed anyway.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 9, 2018 1:30 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes"  wrote:

> I think it's a lighter car than a W115 or W123 chassis - won't be as slow
> as you think.
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
> >>
> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-di
> >> esel/6452342666.html
> >>
> >> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800,
> maybe,
> >> depending on where the rust is, or not.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual
> > transmission?
> >
> > RB
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 49 Battery

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the 49 batteries are supposed to have a vent with a tube.  I think only 
once, I got the tube when I bought a battery.  But most og the group 49 
batteries did have the vent constucted to put a tube on so the acid/gas 
can be conducted away from sheet metal.


To me the AGM batteries were not worth the $$$.  Kinda like the other 
stuff filipino boys put on the rice burners:  Mushroom air cleaners, 
neon lights under the car, coffee cans over the exhaust, jacking up one 
end or the other with air bags, etc.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
January 9, 2018 at 3:53 PM

Ever have a car rust out near the battery tray?
That adds up in a hurry, and it's what a sealed battery is supposed to 
prevent.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

And not a car you buy for speed anyway.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 9, 2018 1:30 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes"  wrote:

> I think it's a lighter car than a W115 or W123 chassis - won't be as slow
> as you think.
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
> >>
> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-di
> >> esel/6452342666.html
> >>
> >> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800,
> maybe,
> >> depending on where the rust is, or not.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual
> > transmission?
> >
> > RB
> >
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 49 Battery

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Lots of 123's rust there. IIRC it has to do with water & not battery.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 9, 2018 4:53 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 
wrote:

>
> > On January 9, 2018 at 1:41 AM fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Bob wrote:
> > >  IS an AGM battery worth it??
> >
> > I don't know.  Lots of people say good things about them.  But if
> > it is twice the price, I should get twice the life.  I'm not sure
> > it adds up.
>
> Ever have a car rust out near the battery tray?
> That adds up in a hurry, and it's what a sealed battery is supposed to
> prevent.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 9, 2018 at 6:12 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not sure if it applies to automotive bulbs, but my architect son advises 
> that over time, LED bulbs fade away. His firm had a presentation by some 
> manufacturer or vendor of lighting and were advised that LED bulbs get 
> less bright over time.

Degradation of LEDs exists, but as far as I know it's minor.
Degradation of the luminescent materials that are used to get white light from 
a blue LED is not so minor.

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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Is there a graph of the fade?

-MMM-

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not sure if it applies to automotive bulbs, but my architect son advises
> that over time, LED bulbs fade away. His firm had a presentation by some
> manufacturer or vendor of lighting and were advised that LED bulbs get less
> bright over time.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Not sure if it applies to automotive bulbs, but my architect son advises 
that over time, LED bulbs fade away. His firm had a presentation by some 
manufacturer or vendor of lighting and were advised that LED bulbs get 
less bright over time.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Video: LED Installation and Common Issues – Moss Motoring

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Would work just the same.  Make sure you get the bright set, not the cheap 
stuff.   The cheap stuff is not bright, and does need a flasher.  The better 
LED will likely have a built in resistor, so no need for flasher upgrade.  Or, 
they may also want a flasher if you are hoping to get reduced amperage.

I did it in the SL for a year.  No great energy saving, and the lamps were low 
candle power.



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> This is a write up and video of how to install LED’s in an MG.  I plan on 
> doing this in my 78 MGB in the spring.  Would this information apply to my 85 
> 300D?  I would like to update it as well. Is there a similar write up for our 
> older Mercedes?
> 
> http://www.mossmotoring.com/led-installation-and-common-issues/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 49 Battery

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 9, 2018 at 1:41 AM fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Bob wrote:
> >  IS an AGM battery worth it?? 
> 
> I don't know.  Lots of people say good things about them.  But if
> it is twice the price, I should get twice the life.  I'm not sure
> it adds up.

Ever have a car rust out near the battery tray?
That adds up in a hurry, and it's what a sealed battery is supposed to prevent. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT A propos frozen geckos

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Sort of like the mice asking - who will bell the cat?

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Looks like a good time to tie their mouth closed, and tie them to a tree
> for later retrieval - good eating and fancy boots.
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Alligators go snouts up in frozen pondsPublished: Tuesday, January 9,
> 2018
> >
> > To survive cold winters, alligators allow their bodies to be frozen in
> > place with their noses and large teeth protruding from the ice.
> >
> > The bizarre scene was filmed by a North Carolina swamp park after the
> "bomb
> > cyclone" sent chills across the coastline.
> >
> > "Just hanging out in the water," says the narrator of the video
> >  videos/768604326672879/
> > >,
> > showing closeups of the snouts sticking through the ice. "Pretty amazing.
> > ... Look at those teeth. This is the time of year when they are just
> > hanging out, waiting for it to get warm."
> >
> > Alligators know when the water is going to freeze, so they enter a state
> of
> > brumation, or hibernation for reptiles. But not before they stick the tip
> > of their snout above the water just as it freezes around them.
> >
> > The video, which was posted on Facebook by Shallotte River Swamp Park in
> > Ocean Isle Beach, has more than 200,000 views (Mark Price, *Charlotte
> > Observer*
> > ,
> Jan.
> > 8). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] OT A propos frozen geckos

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Looks like a good time to tie their mouth closed, and tie them to a tree
for later retrieval - good eating and fancy boots.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Alligators go snouts up in frozen pondsPublished: Tuesday, January 9, 2018
>
> To survive cold winters, alligators allow their bodies to be frozen in
> place with their noses and large teeth protruding from the ice.
>
> The bizarre scene was filmed by a North Carolina swamp park after the "bomb
> cyclone" sent chills across the coastline.
>
> "Just hanging out in the water," says the narrator of the video
>  >,
> showing closeups of the snouts sticking through the ice. "Pretty amazing.
> ... Look at those teeth. This is the time of year when they are just
> hanging out, waiting for it to get warm."
>
> Alligators know when the water is going to freeze, so they enter a state of
> brumation, or hibernation for reptiles. But not before they stick the tip
> of their snout above the water just as it freezes around them.
>
> The video, which was posted on Facebook by Shallotte River Swamp Park in
> Ocean Isle Beach, has more than 200,000 views (Mark Price, *Charlotte
> Observer*
> , Jan.
> 8). *— CS*
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[MBZ] OT A propos frozen geckos

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Alligators go snouts up in frozen pondsPublished: Tuesday, January 9, 2018

To survive cold winters, alligators allow their bodies to be frozen in
place with their noses and large teeth protruding from the ice.

The bizarre scene was filmed by a North Carolina swamp park after the "bomb
cyclone" sent chills across the coastline.

"Just hanging out in the water," says the narrator of the video
,
showing closeups of the snouts sticking through the ice. "Pretty amazing.
... Look at those teeth. This is the time of year when they are just
hanging out, waiting for it to get warm."

Alligators know when the water is going to freeze, so they enter a state of
brumation, or hibernation for reptiles. But not before they stick the tip
of their snout above the water just as it freezes around them.

The video, which was posted on Facebook by Shallotte River Swamp Park in
Ocean Isle Beach, has more than 200,000 views (Mark Price, *Charlotte
Observer*
, Jan.
8). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I think it's a lighter car than a W115 or W123 chassis - won't be as slow
as you think.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
>>
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-di
>> esel/6452342666.html
>>
>> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe,
>> depending on where the rust is, or not.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual
> transmission?
>
> RB
>
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Because the Luscombe 8E is mildly aerobatic!  Actually, you have "low and
slow" for fun scenic touring (Luscombe, Breezy), enjoying the evening,
etc., there is "high and fast" (Tailwind W10) for getting somewhere in a
hurry or racing, and there is the abililty to haul a load (Cessna 182).
Just like cars, no one aircraft fits all missions.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> I don’t have the time, resources or space to do something that major.
> Also, as stated previously, I’m a purist. It does nothing for me to repower
> a vintage car.  I’ll leave that to the hotrodders.
>
> Ask Lt. Don why one of his airplane buddies would want to fly a Luscombe.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just save the original so it could be put back in and find a bigger,
> better motor! Not suggesting a SBC, but just a 3 liter diesel. Even
> normally aspirated, it would have to be an improvement.
> >
> > RB
> >
> >> On 09/01/2018 11:41 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I would not.  If it wasn’t installed at the factory (with the exception
> of the AC, of course), it doesn’t belong.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So, are you a purist in the sense that you would not consider swapping
> in a later motor?
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
>  On 09/01/2018 11:30 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>  Absolutely.  However, I’m more into the looks than the performance.
> And it has AC!
> 
>  -D
> 
> >> On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit
> optimistic:
> >>
> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-
> diesel/6452342666.html
> >>
> >> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800,
> maybe, depending on where the rust is, or not.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> > Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual
> transmission?
> >
> > RB
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Video: LED Installation and Common Issues – Moss Motoring

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I don't care for the guy, be he sells a few things. 

‎https://mercedessource.com/store/search?keys=led

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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I don’t have the time, resources or space to do something that major. Also, as 
stated previously, I’m a purist. It does nothing for me to repower a vintage 
car.  I’ll leave that to the hotrodders.

Ask Lt. Don why one of his airplane buddies would want to fly a Luscombe.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just save the original so it could be put back in and find a bigger, better 
> motor! Not suggesting a SBC, but just a 3 liter diesel. Even normally 
> aspirated, it would have to be an improvement.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 09/01/2018 11:41 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I would not.  If it wasn’t installed at the factory (with the exception of 
>> the AC, of course), it doesn’t belong.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, are you a purist in the sense that you would not consider swapping in a 
>>> later motor?
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 09/01/2018 11:30 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
 Absolutely.  However, I’m more into the looks than the performance.  And 
 it has AC!
 
 -D
 
>> On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-diesel/6452342666.html
>> 
>> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, 
>> maybe, depending on where the rust is, or not.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual 
> transmission?
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

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Just save the original so it could be put back in and find a bigger, 
better motor! Not suggesting a SBC, but just a 3 liter diesel. Even 
normally aspirated, it would have to be an improvement.


RB

On 09/01/2018 11:41 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I would not.  If it wasn’t installed at the factory (with the exception of the 
AC, of course), it doesn’t belong.

-D


On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

So, are you a purist in the sense that you would not consider swapping in a 
later motor?

RB


On 09/01/2018 11:30 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
Absolutely.  However, I’m more into the looks than the performance.  And it has 
AC!

-D


On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-diesel/6452342666.html

I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe, 
depending on where the rust is, or not.

-D


Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual 
transmission?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I would not.  If it wasn’t installed at the factory (with the exception of the 
AC, of course), it doesn’t belong.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, are you a purist in the sense that you would not consider swapping in a 
> later motor?
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 09/01/2018 11:30 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Absolutely.  However, I’m more into the looks than the performance.  And it 
>> has AC!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
 This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
 
 https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-diesel/6452342666.html
 
 I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe, 
 depending on where the rust is, or not.
 
 -D
 
>>> Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual 
>>> transmission?
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

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I’ve got time to look at it on Thursday. Might go have a look.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> You KNOW you're going to buy this car.  You know you WANT this car.  You know 
> WE want you to buy this car.
> 
> Offer $2500 and drive it home.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> Absolutely.  However, I’m more into the looks than the performance.  And it 
>> has AC!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> >> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
>> >>
>> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-diesel/6452342666.html
>> >>
>> >> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe, 
>> >> depending on where the rust is, or not.
>> >>
>> >> -D
>> >>
>> > Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual 
>> > transmission?
>> >
>> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, are you a purist in the sense that you would not consider swapping 
in a later motor?


RB

On 09/01/2018 11:30 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Absolutely.  However, I’m more into the looks than the performance.  And it has 
AC!

-D


On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:


On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-diesel/6452342666.html

I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe, 
depending on where the rust is, or not.

-D


Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual 
transmission?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

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You KNOW you're going to buy this car.  You know you WANT this car.  You
know WE want you to buy this car.

Offer $2500 and drive it home.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Absolutely.  However, I’m more into the looks than the performance.  And
> it has AC!
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
> >>
> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-
> diesel/6452342666.html
> >>
> >> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800,
> maybe, depending on where the rust is, or not.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> > Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual
> transmission?
> >
> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

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Absolutely.  However, I’m more into the looks than the performance.  And it has 
AC!

-D

> On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-diesel/6452342666.html
>> 
>> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe, 
>> depending on where the rust is, or not.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual 
> transmission?
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Video: LED Installation and Common Issues – Moss Motoring

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> Dan wrote:

> I’m a little confused by the comments on the Moss Motots Page,
> however. They talk about the inability to use LEDs in a positive
> ground system.  That doesn’t make sense to me, as I would simply
> reverse the LED.  I’m not sure why that wouldn’t work

It will - but I have not seen any pre-manufactured LED lamps for
incandescent direct replacement.  Those all seem to be neg ground.

But it would not be at all difficult to build one with a bridge
rectifier so it would not be polarity particular.  Again, I have
not seen one.

But then Google finds me a 6 volt...


Or is it.  1157 and 1156 are 12V part numbers.  I'm not sure what
to believe!

And a Brit.
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

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"It's quick for it's age."

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
>>
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-di
>> esel/6452342666.html
>>
>> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe,
>> depending on where the rust is, or not.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual
> transmission?
>
> RB
>
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[MBZ] Tricked-up RR '79 Silver Shadow on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Under $10k with 4 hours remaining.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-rolls-royce-silver-shadow/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-01-09
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 49 Battery

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

BTW, after an hour plugged into a functional block heater my 361k mile 1983
300TD starts on a dime with no post-start stalling.  Amazing difference.
:).

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:41 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Bob wrote:
> >  IS an AGM battery worth it??
>
> I don't know.  Lots of people say good things about them.  But if
> it is twice the price, I should get twice the life.  I'm not sure
> it adds up.
>
> > How can I check if starter is good ??  83 240D
>
> Well - put in a new one and see if it's fixed?  *smiles*
>
> The battery and the starter are a system.  Either one can cause
> very similar symptoms.
>
> A failing starter will draw more current.  So a DC ammeter that
> can read more than 500 A can be used.  My note, which are not as
> clear as I would like, suggest that the starter for my OM616 with
> a good battery and warm weather would draw about 250 A.  Not clear
> is if this was a bench test...
>
> If the battery is good, turn on the interior light and watch it
> when cranking.  It should dim, but not go out - or nearly out.
>
> A weak battery or a failing starter will cause the light to go
> out, or practically go out.
>
> A bad cable or connection will cause the light to dim very little.
>
> Or a volt meter, measuring the voltage drop along the
> battery-starter cable.  This is most effective if you have a
> known-good reading to compare.  I'm not finding my notes on what I
> found to be "normal"...
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

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On 09/01/2018 7:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-diesel/6452342666.html

I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe, 
depending on where the rust is, or not.

-D

Isn't a 2 liter diesel going to be pretty anemic even with a manual 
transmission?


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Video: LED Installation and Common Issues – Moss Motoring

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I believe Moss meant that the LEDs fitted into sockets for standard
automotive light applications only are made in one configuration, with the
center contact(s) positive and the the outer body the negative lead.

If you "roll your own" sockets / LEDs, you could of course reverse the
polarity.

Another option might be to re-wire the bulb socket?  That might be simple
enough for a brake light bulb that is separate from the turn signal bulb,
if you only wanted to convert the brake lights.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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wrote:

> I’m a little confused by the comments on the Moss Motots Page, however.
> They talk about the inability to use LEDs in a positive ground system.
> That doesn’t make sense to me, as I would simply reverse the LED.  I’m not
> sure why that wouldn’t work
>
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Re: [MBZ] Video: LED Installation and Common Issues – Moss Motoring

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Micheal,

If you look on BenzWorld or any number of online forums, you’ll find numerous 
threads on LED conversions.  For that matter, I’m pretty sure there are people 
out there selling kits with everything in them to do the conversion.

I’m a little confused by the comments on the Moss Motots Page, however. They 
talk about the inability to use LEDs in a positive ground system.  That doesn’t 
make sense to me, as I would simply reverse the LED.  I’m not sure why that 
wouldn’t work

-D

> On Jan 9, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is a write up and video of how to install LED’s in an MG.  I plan on 
> doing this in my 78 MGB in the spring.  Would this information apply to my 85 
> 300D?  I would like to update it as well. Is there a similar write up for our 
> older Mercedes?
> 
> http://www.mossmotoring.com/led-installation-and-common-issues/
> 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Video: LED Installation and Common Issues – Moss Motoring

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's a nice video, but I'm not familiar enough with a 123 wiring diagram
to be much use.

The 123 has separate indicators for the turn signals, which is a plus, but
the hazard switch / turn signal flasher set-up will need to be analyzed.

What is the quality of the LED bulbs that you are seeking, low current use
or brighter / faster?

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Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is a write up and video of how to install LED’s in an MG.  I plan on
> doing this in my 78 MGB in the spring.  Would this information apply to my
> 85 300D?  I would like to update it as well. Is there a similar write up
> for our older Mercedes?
>
> http://www.mossmotoring.com/led-installation-and-common-issues/
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

"Fishtail" body style?  Maybe the seller is not too familiar with the
marque?

Looks like a great basis for a project _IF_ the rust is not too bad.

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Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-
> diesel/6452342666.html
>
> I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe,
> depending on where the rust is, or not.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 8, 2018, at 11:40 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Coupla zeroes too many, there.  The rust and mold are the only things
> > holding the poor thing together.
> >
> > -MMM-
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Mercedes-Benz-200d/17308475201
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[MBZ] Video: LED Installation and Common Issues – Moss Motoring

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

This is a write up and video of how to install LED’s in an MG.  I plan on doing 
this in my 78 MGB in the spring.  Would this information apply to my 85 300D?  
I would like to update it as well. Is there a similar write up for our older 
Mercedes?
 
http://www.mossmotoring.com/led-installation-and-common-issues/


Michael E. Esh


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Re: [MBZ] 49 Battery

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Here's what Wiki say about AGM's FWIW:

"AGM & Gel VRLA batteries:
Have shorter recharge time than flooded lead-acid.
Cannot tolerate overcharging: overcharging leads to premature failure.
Have shorter useful life, compared to properly maintained wet-cell battery.
Discharge significantly less hydrogen gas.
AGM batteries are by nature, safer for the environment, and safer to use.
Can be used or positioned in any orientation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRLA_battery#Applications

Gerry
~~~


"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> That’s backward from what I have always heard. I thought they were more 
> durable. 
 
> > I use an AGM in my Prius, but I would never use one in my diesel cars since 
> > the AGMs are more easily damaged. For example, if you leave something on 
> > and run the AGM down, you can't charge at more than 4 amps without 
> > shortening its life.
> > Also, I vaguely recall someone on the Prius website complaining that the 
> > AGM in his Prius only lasted 3 years. YMMV. Hopefully someone on he group 
> > has had experience with AGMs in diesels.
> > Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] The Finny for Poos is still available

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

This is the one I want, but I think the price is still a bit optimistic:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1968-mercedes-200d-diesel/6452342666.html

I’m tempted to go look at it this week.  I’m thinking $2500-$2800, maybe, 
depending on where the rust is, or not.

-D

> On Jan 8, 2018, at 11:40 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Coupla zeroes too many, there.  The rust and mold are the only things
> holding the poor thing together.
> 
> -MMM-
> 
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Mercedes-Benz-200d/17308475201
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wonder what these will cost

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

BIG profit!


fmiser via Mercedes 
January 9, 2018 at 12:45 AM

Curley wrote:



Can anyone guess why the car builders love to sell trucks and
SUVs?


Less regulations, lower build cost, higher sell price, and the buyers want them.

Next?



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