Re: [MBZ] Dash Cam Memory Cards

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:17:54 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Thanks for that bit of information !
> I just bought 3 dash cams without memory cards, so upon delivery of the
> cams I will be shopping for exactly that size card.

I bought the one from Newegg.
It was their item #9SIA12KCMB7076.
$11.63 with free shipping plus tax.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] A Not So Good Stealership Service Experience With Der DoodleWagen

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

I’m not sure about the tire pressure. I filled them up last month, fronts 63PSI 
and rears 75PSI per spec. It was SSOOO busy yesterday When we dropped 
her off that I wouldn’t be surprised that it was simply overlooked/skipped. I 
plan to fill out any service quality assessment forms that I receive. Regarding 
the loner car AKA courtesy vehicle, it was a GLA250 4Matic base model which 
seemed to be a good little SUV. It was powered by a 2.0L 4 cylinder with an 
eight-speed DSG transmission with a 0-60MPH time of 6.6sec!! Also, it was rated 
at 24MPG city and 33MPG HWY, not bad for a compact SUV! While we were waiting 
around for the van, we looked at several SUPS including the Mexican-assembled 
GLB250, the GLC350 and the GLE 350 as well as the GLS450 which stickered at 
$95K! It, as well as the $114K GLS63 AMG, were the only ones that were powered 
by something other than a turbocharged 4 cylinder. The only Mercedes-Benz 
equipped with a Diesel engine is the Sprinter.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 1717 miles, Low Mileage Lutgart AKA Der 
DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard

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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So what about the low tire pressure, did that exist before the service and 
> they missed it, or did they "service" it and leave the pressure too low?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Dec 11, 2020 7:41:17 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :
> 
>> Hello Benzers. Yesterday was Lutgart’s turn to get her yearly oil change and 
>> address the three recalls. This also included the A service which comprised 
>> oel/filter, fuel filter change, inspection and tire pressure check. Today, 
>> after waiting well over an hour for pickup, we headed home. As we were 
>> slowly trekking down the freeway in the rain at 40MPH, I consulted her for a 
>> fuel economy check revealing only 9.8MPG! WOW! Since the fuel filter was 
>> changed, I knew that the low mileage was due to a leak that must be pretty 
>> severe since that is well less than half the normal fuel economy. Arriving 
>> home, there was a strong Diesel smell around the front of the van. Also, the 
>> real time display showed that the right front tire pressure was low and 
>> showing a hotter tire temp than the others. This is after PROFESSIONALS 
>> serviced my van! If I knew the location and procedure for replacing the fuel 
>> filter, I would have been servicing my own vehicle! As the saying goes, 
>> the only way to fix it right is to FIX IT YOURSELF! I’m going to try to not 
>> only get the service for free, but also have them top off my fuel tank as 
>> well.
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>> 2019 Sprinter van 12 passenger 144WB 1717 miles, Low Mileage Lutgart
>> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-12-11 20:20, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:



“But all of the tanks we supply are leased.”

"Nope. We paid for this one, it’s in the bill of materials.
Contractually, it’s ours. Builder shall supply…."

Builder had to buy out the lease for the tank. Lesson learned.



The builder leased a tank from the propane company, and sold you the 
propane company's tank?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

About the last thing you do, after drywall, is install the outlets.

I thought it was common to build on generators, and then when you need 
power (like for starting up the new well), call the power company and 
say 'hey, the well drillers need power by next Tuesday' (the electrical 
inspection being complete by then, hopefully).


On 2020-12-11 20:29, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Now they're having trouble getting
power hooked up. Turns out the builder didn't even try until 3 months
ago. Had a whole dang year and didn't bother to try, built the whole
place while running generators.


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Re: [MBZ] A Not So Good Stealership Service Experience With Der DoodleWagen

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

So what about the low tire pressure, did that exist before the service and they 
missed it, or did they "service" it and leave the pressure too low?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Dec 11, 2020 7:41:17 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :

> Hello Benzers. Yesterday was Lutgart’s turn to get her yearly oil change and 
> address the three recalls. This also included the A service which comprised 
> oel/filter, fuel filter change, inspection and tire pressure check. Today, 
> after waiting well over an hour for pickup, we headed home. As we were slowly 
> trekking down the freeway in the rain at 40MPH, I consulted her for a fuel 
> economy check revealing only 9.8MPG! WOW! Since the fuel filter was changed, 
> I knew that the low mileage was due to a leak that must be pretty severe 
> since that is well less than half the normal fuel economy. Arriving home, 
> there was a strong Diesel smell around the front of the van. Also, the real 
> time display showed that the right front tire pressure was low and showing a 
> hotter tire temp than the others. This is after PROFESSIONALS serviced my 
> van! If I knew the location and procedure for replacing the fuel filter, I 
> would have been servicing my own vehicle! As the saying goes, the only 
> way to fix it right is to FIX IT YOURSELF! I’m going to try to not only get 
> the service for free, but also have them top off my fuel tank as well.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter van 12 passenger 144WB 1717 miles, Low Mileage Lutgart
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> 
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[MBZ] Another Potential Kleb Car...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Going south on PP pretty quick, might be able to get it cheap(er):

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/408988-fs-1987-300-sdl-texas-dfw.html
 


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Re: [MBZ] A Not So Good Stealership Service Experience With Der DoodleWagen

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Complain to the dealer politely you return the car, and maybe they'll give
you a better loaner car.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 8:17 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Contact MBUSA and fill out the dealer assessment (they usually send you
> one).  I made sure MBUSA knew of quality issues with work done at the
> stealer.
>
> Clay
>
>
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>
> > On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Benzers. Yesterday was Lutgart’s turn to get her yearly oil change
> and address the three recalls. This also included the A service which
> comprised oel/filter, fuel filter change, inspection and tire pressure
> check. Today, after waiting well over an hour for pickup, we headed home.
> As we were slowly trekking down the freeway in the rain at 40MPH, I
> consulted her for a fuel economy check revealing only 9.8MPG! WOW! Since
> the fuel filter was changed, I knew that the low mileage was due to a leak
> that must be pretty severe since that is well less than half the normal
> fuel economy. Arriving home, there was a strong Diesel smell around the
> front of the van. Also, the real time display showed that the right front
> tire pressure was low and showing a hotter tire temp than the others. This
> is after PROFESSIONALS serviced my van! If I knew the location and
> procedure for replacing the fuel filter, I would have been servicing my own
> vehicle! As the saying goes, the only way to fix it right is to FIX IT
> YOURSELF! I’m going to try to not only get the service for free, but also
> have them top off my fuel tank as well.
> > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> > 2019 Sprinter van 12 passenger 144WB 1717 miles, Low Mileage Lutgart
> > 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would add that the builder who built our house in Wisconsin was quite 
competent, honest, and had excellent subs. Granted, he was a custom 
homebuilder, not building tract homes, but he was very good. We had almost 
nothing in the way of exceptions or issues with the construction of that house.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Builders can be idiots. Ours was, mainly because they were tossing homes up 
> so fast they weren’t paying attention to details like we did.
> 
> They had these little multi-part carbonless forms you could fill out to 
> address discrepancies you found. After about 30 days or so of the framing 
> going up they just gave us a box of them.
> 
> Understand that we didn’t ask for or point out anything that wasn’t clearly 
> spelled out in the construction documents - nearly every issue was their own 
> fault. We cost them so much on that house that they ended up changing their 
> construction practices in some areas and even changed the contract. They were 
> simply being half-assed and we caught them at it and held them up to the 
> standards they were allegedly maintaining.
> 
> Nowadays, builders will make you sign a contract with arbitration clauses and 
> NDAs. That wasn’t the case in 1995. Our house in Indiana has arbitration 
> clauses for darned near every aspect of the contract. This way they can fight 
> you and not get hauled into court, which is far more expensive - and - the 
> NDA prevents you from going public about the problem(s) you arbitrated.
> 
> Pretty sneaky.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Curt Raymond > > wrote:
>> 
>> This isn't helping my opinion of builders.
>> 
>> Brother-in-law and his wife are in the final stages of having a place built, 
>> its been more than a year since ground was broken. Builder dragged his feet 
>> all spring, blamed COVID but they hadn't done much more than dig a hole 
>> before March.
>> Now they're having trouble getting power hooked up. Turns out the builder 
>> didn't even try until 3 months ago. Had a whole dang year and didn't bother 
>> to try, built the whole place while running generators.
>> 
>> BIL wisely won't let me talk to the builder...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020, 8:21:45 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> We’ve always owned our tanks for just that reason.
>> 
>> Our former house across the street has a 100 gallon tank buried in the front 
>> yard.  Right after we moved in the LP supplier that filled and supplied it 
>> to the builder sent us a bill for the monthly tank lease payment.
>> 
>> Nope.
>> 
>> In the bill of materials for the adder that covered all of the LP system 
>> installed in the house was a 100 gallon underground tank, related piping, 
>> etc., etc. We paid for that adder (around $800, I seem to recall.) When we 
>> told the LP supplier we owned the tank, they said no. We went to the builder 
>> and pointed out that we paid for the tank as a part of the adder based on 
>> the contract.
>> 
>> “But all of the tanks we supply are leased.”
>> 
>> "Nope. We paid for this one, it’s in the bill of materials. Contractually, 
>> it’s ours. Builder shall supply…."
>> 
>> Builder had to buy out the lease for the tank. Lesson learned.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > My parent's propane supplier royally screwed up this year. Their tanks are 
>> > 30+ years old and the supplier decided to stop filling them. They never 
>> > bothered to tell anybody this and the tanks ran out 2 days before 
>> > Thanksgiving.
>> > It turns out that the supplier owns the tanks. With egg on their face they 
>> > had to provide an emergency tank the day before Thanksgiving. I'm curious 
>> > to find out how long the "temporary" tank stays...
>> > 
>> > -Curt
>> > 
>> >On Friday, December 11, 2020, 6:54:54 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
>> > 
>> > Most people have NatGas available and use it.
>> > The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's 
>> > still a lot of oil in New England.
>> > 
>> > Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
>> > My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward 
>> > to the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus 
>> > tax.
>> > I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank 
>> > baked into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank 
>> > renters too, my Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.
>> > 
>> > On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> >> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
>> >> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
>> >> 
>> >> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
>> >> whether 

Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Builders can be idiots. Ours was, mainly because they were tossing homes up so 
fast they weren’t paying attention to details like we did.

They had these little multi-part carbonless forms you could fill out to address 
discrepancies you found. After about 30 days or so of the framing going up they 
just gave us a box of them.

Understand that we didn’t ask for or point out anything that wasn’t clearly 
spelled out in the construction documents - nearly every issue was their own 
fault. We cost them so much on that house that they ended up changing their 
construction practices in some areas and even changed the contract. They were 
simply being half-assed and we caught them at it and held them up to the 
standards they were allegedly maintaining.

Nowadays, builders will make you sign a contract with arbitration clauses and 
NDAs. That wasn’t the case in 1995. Our house in Indiana has arbitration 
clauses for darned near every aspect of the contract. This way they can fight 
you and not get hauled into court, which is far more expensive - and - the NDA 
prevents you from going public about the problem(s) you arbitrated.

Pretty sneaky.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> This isn't helping my opinion of builders.
> 
> Brother-in-law and his wife are in the final stages of having a place built, 
> its been more than a year since ground was broken. Builder dragged his feet 
> all spring, blamed COVID but they hadn't done much more than dig a hole 
> before March.
> Now they're having trouble getting power hooked up. Turns out the builder 
> didn't even try until 3 months ago. Had a whole dang year and didn't bother 
> to try, built the whole place while running generators.
> 
> BIL wisely won't let me talk to the builder...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, December 11, 2020, 8:21:45 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> We’ve always owned our tanks for just that reason.
> 
> Our former house across the street has a 100 gallon tank buried in the front 
> yard.  Right after we moved in the LP supplier that filled and supplied it to 
> the builder sent us a bill for the monthly tank lease payment.
> 
> Nope.
> 
> In the bill of materials for the adder that covered all of the LP system 
> installed in the house was a 100 gallon underground tank, related piping, 
> etc., etc. We paid for that adder (around $800, I seem to recall.) When we 
> told the LP supplier we owned the tank, they said no. We went to the builder 
> and pointed out that we paid for the tank as a part of the adder based on the 
> contract.
> 
> “But all of the tanks we supply are leased.”
> 
> "Nope. We paid for this one, it’s in the bill of materials. Contractually, 
> it’s ours. Builder shall supply…."
> 
> Builder had to buy out the lease for the tank. Lesson learned.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > My parent's propane supplier royally screwed up this year. Their tanks are 
> > 30+ years old and the supplier decided to stop filling them. They never 
> > bothered to tell anybody this and the tanks ran out 2 days before 
> > Thanksgiving.
> > It turns out that the supplier owns the tanks. With egg on their face they 
> > had to provide an emergency tank the day before Thanksgiving. I'm curious 
> > to find out how long the "temporary" tank stays...
> > 
> > -Curt
> > 
> >On Friday, December 11, 2020, 6:54:54 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
> > 
> > Most people have NatGas available and use it.
> > The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's 
> > still a lot of oil in New England.
> > 
> > Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
> > My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward 
> > to the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus 
> > tax.
> > I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank 
> > baked into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank 
> > renters too, my Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.
> > 
> > On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
> >> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
> >> 
> >> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
> >> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
> >> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like 
> >> two
> >> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
> >> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
> >> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 This isn't helping my opinion of builders.
Brother-in-law and his wife are in the final stages of having a place built, 
its been more than a year since ground was broken. Builder dragged his feet all 
spring, blamed COVID but they hadn't done much more than dig a hole before 
March.Now they're having trouble getting power hooked up. Turns out the builder 
didn't even try until 3 months ago. Had a whole dang year and didn't bother to 
try, built the whole place while running generators.
BIL wisely won't let me talk to the builder...
-Curt

On Friday, December 11, 2020, 8:21:45 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 We’ve always owned our tanks for just that reason.

Our former house across the street has a 100 gallon tank buried in the front 
yard.  Right after we moved in the LP supplier that filled and supplied it to 
the builder sent us a bill for the monthly tank lease payment.

Nope.

In the bill of materials for the adder that covered all of the LP system 
installed in the house was a 100 gallon underground tank, related piping, etc., 
etc. We paid for that adder (around $800, I seem to recall.) When we told the 
LP supplier we owned the tank, they said no. We went to the builder and pointed 
out that we paid for the tank as a part of the adder based on the contract.

“But all of the tanks we supply are leased.”

"Nope. We paid for this one, it’s in the bill of materials. Contractually, it’s 
ours. Builder shall supply…."

Builder had to buy out the lease for the tank. Lesson learned.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My parent's propane supplier royally screwed up this year. Their tanks are 
> 30+ years old and the supplier decided to stop filling them. They never 
> bothered to tell anybody this and the tanks ran out 2 days before 
> Thanksgiving.
> It turns out that the supplier owns the tanks. With egg on their face they 
> had to provide an emergency tank the day before Thanksgiving. I'm curious to 
> find out how long the "temporary" tank stays...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>    On Friday, December 11, 2020, 6:54:54 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
> Most people have NatGas available and use it.
> The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's 
> still a lot of oil in New England.
> 
> Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
> My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward 
> to the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus 
> tax.
> I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank 
> baked into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank 
> renters too, my Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.
> 
> On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
>> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
>> 
>> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
>> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
>> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like 
>> two
>> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
>> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
>> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We’ve always owned our tanks for just that reason.

Our former house across the street has a 100 gallon tank buried in the front 
yard.  Right after we moved in the LP supplier that filled and supplied it to 
the builder sent us a bill for the monthly tank lease payment.

Nope.

In the bill of materials for the adder that covered all of the LP system 
installed in the house was a 100 gallon underground tank, related piping, etc., 
etc. We paid for that adder (around $800, I seem to recall.) When we told the 
LP supplier we owned the tank, they said no. We went to the builder and pointed 
out that we paid for the tank as a part of the adder based on the contract.

“But all of the tanks we supply are leased.”

"Nope. We paid for this one, it’s in the bill of materials. Contractually, it’s 
ours. Builder shall supply…."

Builder had to buy out the lease for the tank. Lesson learned.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My parent's propane supplier royally screwed up this year. Their tanks are 
> 30+ years old and the supplier decided to stop filling them. They never 
> bothered to tell anybody this and the tanks ran out 2 days before 
> Thanksgiving.
> It turns out that the supplier owns the tanks. With egg on their face they 
> had to provide an emergency tank the day before Thanksgiving. I'm curious to 
> find out how long the "temporary" tank stays...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, December 11, 2020, 6:54:54 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Most people have NatGas available and use it.
> The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's 
> still a lot of oil in New England.
> 
> Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
> My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward 
> to the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus 
> tax.
> I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank 
> baked into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank 
> renters too, my Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.
> 
> On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
>> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
>> 
>> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
>> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
>> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like 
>> two
>> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
>> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
>> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Not So Good Stealership Service Experience With Der DoodleWagen

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Contact MBUSA and fill out the dealer assessment (they usually send you one).  
I made sure MBUSA knew of quality issues with work done at the stealer.

Clay


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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Benzers. Yesterday was Lutgart’s turn to get her yearly oil change and 
> address the three recalls. This also included the A service which comprised 
> oel/filter, fuel filter change, inspection and tire pressure check. Today, 
> after waiting well over an hour for pickup, we headed home. As we were slowly 
> trekking down the freeway in the rain at 40MPH, I consulted her for a fuel 
> economy check revealing only 9.8MPG! WOW! Since the fuel filter was changed, 
> I knew that the low mileage was due to a leak that must be pretty severe 
> since that is well less than half the normal fuel economy. Arriving home, 
> there was a strong Diesel smell around the front of the van. Also, the real 
> time display showed that the right front tire pressure was low and showing a 
> hotter tire temp than the others. This is after PROFESSIONALS serviced my 
> van! If I knew the location and procedure for replacing the fuel filter, I 
> would have been servicing my own vehicle! As the saying goes, the only 
> way to fix it right is to FIX IT YOURSELF! I’m going to try to not only get 
> the service for free, but also have them top off my fuel tank as well.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter van 12 passenger 144WB 1717 miles, Low Mileage Lutgart
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

NYMEX Natural Gas: $2.57 
Cook Inlet Natural Gas (9/15): $7.74
If the gas line would get built, all the North Slope gas would flow like water 
for pennies…. in to LNG ships hauling to Nippon and South Korea.  Since the gas 
is VERBOTEN in Greenie Weenie land, no market there.

Clay


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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Most people have NatGas available and use it.
> The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's still 
> a lot of oil in New England.
> 
> Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
> My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward to 
> the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus tax.
> I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank baked 
> into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank renters too, my 
> Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.

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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 My parent's propane supplier royally screwed up this year. Their tanks are 30+ 
years old and the supplier decided to stop filling them. They never bothered to 
tell anybody this and the tanks ran out 2 days before Thanksgiving.
It turns out that the supplier owns the tanks. With egg on their face they had 
to provide an emergency tank the day before Thanksgiving. I'm curious to find 
out how long the "temporary" tank stays...

-Curt

On Friday, December 11, 2020, 6:54:54 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Most people have NatGas available and use it.
The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's 
still a lot of oil in New England.

Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward 
to the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus 
tax.
I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank 
baked into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank 
renters too, my Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.

On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
> 
> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like 
> two
> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.


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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

SEA had a healthy enough oil market that when BioD came along, there was a mass 
attempt to procure that market.  That was the peak (2005?) and tanks have been 
yanked like dandelions from a putting green.

No market in AK, as the stuff is solid at winter temps

Clay


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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
> 
> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like two
> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 February is the coldest month so presumably the peak month for fuel oil.
Oil heat is very common in my area, I've never had anything else. Our house is 
heated with oil as is my parent's the in-laws, my grandparents and Angie's and 
even the "new" farmhouse.
Natural gas isn't an option for us or my parents. I suspect it is for Angie's 
folks and grandparents, they live in a larger town than us.
-Curt

On Friday, December 11, 2020, 6:12:16 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.

Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like two
people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
coal, and they all moved to natural gas.

Allan

Clay Monroe via Mercedes  writes:

> https://www.bloomberg.com/energy 
>
> Barrel of oil is heading past $50 this week.  That is a $10 rise since the 
> end of October, when it was just barely in the mid to high $30’s.  This is 
> for delivery in late Jan/Feb 2021.  That is speculating that all the 
> unemployed, who sold their cars to pay rent and feed family will be out 
> driving around this spring.
>
> I have not had my Mercedes out in almost a year.  The other cars in the house 
> have been put on battery tender, since they are not on the road much.  And 
> the snowbirds around here are parked under tarps, so the demand for RV fuel 
> is not in this forecast.  About the only increased demand from GWM is in JetA 
> for cargo flights.
>
> Anybody other than Kaleb flying?  SWMBA is down by almost 50k this year on 
> her miles account.  All the conferences this year were canceled or zoomed, 
> same with the 2021 season.
>
> I guess, once I do get Frosch out of the garage, I will need to burn a tank 
> of no alcohol fuel and fill up so I can sell her.
>
> clay monroe

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Re: [MBZ] A Not So Good Stealership Service Experience With Der DoodleWagen

[greg via Mercedes]

Bitte, name-and-shame the culprit for us. So we can be
forwarned!
Greg

> Hello Benzers. Yesterday was
Lutgart’s turn to get her yearly oil change
> and address the
three recalls. This also included the A service which
> comprised
oel/filter, fuel filter change, inspection and tire pressure
>
check. Today, after waiting well over an hour for pickup, we headed
home.
> As we were slowly trekking down the freeway in the rain at
40MPH, I
> consulted her for a fuel economy check revealing only
9.8MPG! WOW! Since
> the fuel filter was changed, I knew that the
low mileage was due to a leak
> that must be pretty severe since
that is well less than half the normal
> fuel economy. Arriving
home, there was a strong Diesel smell around the
> front of the
van. Also, the real time display showed that the right front
>
tire pressure was low and showing a hotter tire temp than the others.
This
> is after PROFESSIONALS serviced my van! If I knew the
location and
> procedure for replacing the fuel filter, I would
have been servicing my
> own vehicle! As the saying goes, the
only way to fix it right is to
> FIX IT YOURSELF! I’m going to
try to not only get the service for free,
> but also have them top
off my fuel tank as well.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019
Sprinter van 12 passenger 144WB 1717 miles, Low Mileage Lutgart
>
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> 
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iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

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On 2020-12-11 19:52, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

How often do the tanks need to be inspected/recertified/replaced? I've
heard that this is something that people sometimes overlook in the buy
vs. rent calculation.


DOT tanks need certifying. Those are the ones you can haul to the 
hardware store for a fill.


Stationary tanks do not. If the paint is scratched to bare metal, you 
should do something about it before it rusts.
The old ones with screw down gauges (pre-1980 mostly) you should pull 
the gauge and put a new seal under it occasionally. When I bought a 1964 
tank that I didn't know anything about other than the guy I bought it 
from had it for over ten years and it hadn't been serviced to his 
knowledge, I resealed it. IIRC the shop I went to charged me $0.50 for 
the seal.


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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Tanks are qualified by either the DOT (consumer tanks typically 100 gallons or 
less) or AMSE (no requalification required.)  My 500 gallon tank is an ASME 
tank and essentially a lifetime tank. It’s got an anode that can be replaced as 
well as the outside being coated and wrapped with specialized materials to 
protect it.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a 500 gallon tank buried in the front yard, but I won’t go looking for 
> a top off until spring, when heating prices ease up and the price goes down 
> somewhat.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Most people have NatGas available and use it.
>> The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's 
>> still a lot of oil in New England.
>> 
>> Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
>> My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward to 
>> the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus tax.
>> I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank 
>> baked into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank renters 
>> too, my Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.
>> 
>> On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
>>> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
>>> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
>>> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
>>> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like two
>>> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
>>> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
>>> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

How often do the tanks need to be inspected/recertified/replaced? I've
heard that this is something that people sometimes overlook in the buy
vs. rent calculation.

Allan


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> I have a 500 gallon tank buried in the front yard, but I won’t go looking for 
> a top off until spring, when heating prices ease up and the price goes down 
> somewhat.
>
> -D
>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Most people have NatGas available and use it.
>> The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's 
>> still a lot of oil in New England.
>> 
>> Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
>> My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward to 
>> the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus tax.
>> I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank 
>> baked into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank renters 
>> too, my Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.
>> 
>> On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
>>> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
>>> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
>>> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
>>> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like two
>>> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
>>> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
>>> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have a 500 gallon tank buried in the front yard, but I won’t go looking for a 
top off until spring, when heating prices ease up and the price goes down 
somewhat.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Most people have NatGas available and use it.
> The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's still 
> a lot of oil in New England.
> 
> Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
> My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward to 
> the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus tax.
> I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank baked 
> into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank renters too, my 
> Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.
> 
> On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
>> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
>> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
>> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
>> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like two
>> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
>> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
>> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.
> 
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[MBZ] A Not So Good Stealership Service Experience With Der DoodleWagen

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Hello Benzers. Yesterday was Lutgart’s turn to get her yearly oil change and 
address the three recalls. This also included the A service which comprised 
oel/filter, fuel filter change, inspection and tire pressure check. Today, 
after waiting well over an hour for pickup, we headed home. As we were slowly 
trekking down the freeway in the rain at 40MPH, I consulted her for a fuel 
economy check revealing only 9.8MPG! WOW! Since the fuel filter was changed, I 
knew that the low mileage was due to a leak that must be pretty severe since 
that is well less than half the normal fuel economy. Arriving home, there was a 
strong Diesel smell around the front of the van. Also, the real time display 
showed that the right front tire pressure was low and showing a hotter tire 
temp than the others. This is after PROFESSIONALS serviced my van! If I knew 
the location and procedure for replacing the fuel filter, I would have been 
servicing my own vehicle! As the saying goes, the only way to fix it right 
is to FIX IT YOURSELF! I’m going to try to not only get the service for free, 
but also have them top off my fuel tank as well.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter van 12 passenger 144WB 1717 miles, Low Mileage Lutgart
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard

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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Most people have NatGas available and use it.
The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's 
still a lot of oil in New England.


Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward 
to the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus 
tax.
I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank 
baked into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank 
renters too, my Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.


On 2020-12-11 18:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.

Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like 
two

people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
coal, and they all moved to natural gas.



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Re: [MBZ] Dash Cam Memory Cards

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 15:07:39 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Who knew? Thanks for sharing ...

You are welcome.


Craig


> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 3:02 PM Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > I have been using our dash cam for a while and found the microSD
> > memory card has died -- which means information is not being recorded.
> >
> > I looked on the SanDisk (a part of Western Digital) website and found
> > there are memory cards which are designed for this kind of applicaton
> > and which last a lot longer than the plain-vanilla kind I have been
> > using.
> >
> > They have "high" endurance and "max" endurance cards, with the "max"
> > endurance being the longer lasting.
> >
> > I have attached a picture of the card I bought.

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Re: [MBZ] Dash Cam Memory Cards

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks for that bit of information !
I just bought 3 dash cams without memory cards, so upon delivery of the
cams I will be shopping for exactly that size card.


On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:08 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Who knew? Thanks for sharing ...
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 3:02 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > I have been using our dash cam for a while and found the microSD memory
> > card has died -- which means information is not being recorded.
> >
> > I looked on the SanDisk (a part of Western Digital) website and found
> > there are memory cards which are designed for this kind of applicaton
> > and which last a lot longer than the plain-vanilla kind I have been
> > using.
> >
> > They have "high" endurance and "max" endurance cards, with the "max"
> > endurance being the longer lasting.
> >
> > I have attached a picture of the card I bought.
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.

Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like two
people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
coal, and they all moved to natural gas.

Allan

Clay Monroe via Mercedes  writes:

> https://www.bloomberg.com/energy 
>
> Barrel of oil is heading past $50 this week.  That is a $10 rise since the 
> end of October, when it was just barely in the mid to high $30’s.  This is 
> for delivery in late Jan/Feb 2021.  That is speculating that all the 
> unemployed, who sold their cars to pay rent and feed family will be out 
> driving around this spring.
>
> I have not had my Mercedes out in almost a year.  The other cars in the house 
> have been put on battery tender, since they are not on the road much.  And 
> the snowbirds around here are parked under tarps, so the demand for RV fuel 
> is not in this forecast.  About the only increased demand from GWM is in JetA 
> for cargo flights.
>
> Anybody other than Kaleb flying?  SWMBA is down by almost 50k this year on 
> her miles account.  All the conferences this year were canceled or zoomed, 
> same with the 2021 season.
>
> I guess, once I do get Frosch out of the garage, I will need to burn a tank 
> of no alcohol fuel and fill up so I can sell her.
>
> clay monroe

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[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://www.bloomberg.com/energy 

Barrel of oil is heading past $50 this week.  That is a $10 rise since the end 
of October, when it was just barely in the mid to high $30’s.  This is for 
delivery in late Jan/Feb 2021.  That is speculating that all the unemployed, 
who sold their cars to pay rent and feed family will be out driving around this 
spring.

I have not had my Mercedes out in almost a year.  The other cars in the house 
have been put on battery tender, since they are not on the road much.  And the 
snowbirds around here are parked under tarps, so the demand for RV fuel is not 
in this forecast.  About the only increased demand from GWM is in JetA for 
cargo flights.

Anybody other than Kaleb flying?  SWMBA is down by almost 50k this year on her 
miles account.  All the conferences this year were canceled or zoomed, same 
with the 2021 season.

I guess, once I do get Frosch out of the garage, I will need to burn a tank of 
no alcohol fuel and fill up so I can sell her.

clay monroe

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

Retired-
1986 SDL- Polei
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers













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Re: [MBZ] Dash Cam Memory Cards

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Who knew? Thanks for sharing ...

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 3:02 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I have been using our dash cam for a while and found the microSD memory
> card has died -- which means information is not being recorded.
>
> I looked on the SanDisk (a part of Western Digital) website and found
> there are memory cards which are designed for this kind of applicaton
> and which last a lot longer than the plain-vanilla kind I have been
> using.
>
> They have "high" endurance and "max" endurance cards, with the "max"
> endurance being the longer lasting.
>
> I have attached a picture of the card I bought.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Pass

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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
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>  
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Kleb Car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1999-mercedes-230-kompressor/7245495591.html
 


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1959 MERCEDES 220s Sedan

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very original.

Originality isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 9:43 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It has a new tire!
>
> Bob R
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > 1959 MERCEDES 220s Sedan
> >
> >
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1959 MERCEDES 220s Sedan

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

It has a new tire!

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone


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> 1959 MERCEDES 220s Sedan
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> The ones I see are 15" for W124 and W202, 16" for W140

On my W210, they're 16" and 17".

-- Jim


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