Re: [MBZ] Michelin Cross Climate?
Excellent all around tire. Have put them on my two most recent front wheel drive cars, and they do everything pretty darn well. Wet weather, dry handling, even reasonable amounts of snow. If snow is too much for these then it’s because of ground clearance and you want four-wheel-drive anyway Expensive, but cheaper long-term than having two sets of wheels and switching spring and fall. They have the three peak winter rating if that’s important where you are…and totally usable year round. Tony > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 17:23:48 -0700 > From: Bob Rentfro > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Michelin Cross Climate? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Reading up on CrossClimate 2s, all you clowns back east should be all over > these. > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W5V7sK-WfR0 > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 2, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > ?And just left the house and diesel is up about 30 cents since yesterday > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Mar 2, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> ?No experience but Michelin is a decent brand if the price is good I'd > say buy don't wait. Tire prices track oil prices. > >> > >> > >>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022, at 1:51 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > >>> The world is nuts. I am shopping tires for my Passat. It appears the > >>> only tire available in any Phoenix area Costco for it are Michelin > >>> Cross Climates. They look odd. > >>> Has anyone experience with these goofy looking things? > >>> > >>> AZBob > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > > End of Mercedes Digest, Vol 196, Issue 17 > * > -- Tony Wirtel mobile - voice dictation +1 610.551.5923 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 Vaccines and study sizes
Long time without a post! Given info from US FDA on size of phase 3 clinical trials the Pfizer study is a close second to J Phase 3 is the last step to collect data before one could apply for clearance to use in the US: Pfizer: 43.651 (Combined phase 2/3) https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download (Table Moderna: 30,418 https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download (Table 1) J/Janssen: 44.325 https://www.fda.gov/media/146217/download (Table 5) While the Pfizer study was a combined phase 2/3 study (w/FDA blessing), phase 2 studies are relatively small- for example, ~2k people in the Moderna Phase 2. If you have good data and are addressing an urgent need you can ask FDA to combine a phase 2 and phase 3. If they like your data, they're likely to give you the green light. While not common, this approach has been used with previous disease states and drugs. I'll echo what was said before- if you can get a shot, take what you can get. The differences in efficacy are minor compared to the risk of covid...esp w/the new variants swimming around. Tony Wirtel ...still Benzless On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 Kaleb Striplin wrote > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - COVID Vaccine > Message-ID: <17918ba0-945d-4369-80af-5e9f34b56...@striplin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I think that Pfizer one was tested on a very small sample which determined > its effectiveness and the moderna was more fully tested, or so I was told. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 12, 2021, at 7:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > ?I?ll take what they?re giving, as long as it works. A couple of > percentage points either way isn?t going to make a difference. > > > > -D > > > >> On Mar 12, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Either one is fine > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iPhone > >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300D Odessy/Mitch
Mitch, just getting to this now after plowing through several days of digests. I'd need to go through the archives myself, but it may have been an 87 300sdl that I replaced the vacuum pump on. I've never owned a car with the om606 motor, only 617, 602 and 603 cars. But I do have to commend your memory of such a minute detail! Tony Wirtel From: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300D Odessy Message-ID: 552efa19.6030...@mitchellhaley.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dave wrote: Yes, the ball bearings failed and all of the balls and remainder of the cages dropped into the chain. I seem to recall reading in these lists, about ten years ago, that this was fairly common in early OM606 engines. Didn't the exact same thing happen to Tony -- Tony Wirtel mobile i3 +1 610.551.5923 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] USS The Sullivans
Wilton recalled the story of the five Sullivans in WW2: I opened the paper and saw the headline above a photo of five US Navy sailors, the Sullivan brothers, recently lost at sea when their ship, the USS Juneau, was sunk by a Japanese submarine. I had heard about the tragedy on the radio and had heard adults talking about it. When I saw the headline, THEY DIED NOT IN VAIN, I got very excited and said to Daddy, Look, they didn't die! It says here, 'THEY DIED NOT'! Wilton, A Fletcher class destroyer bore the name The Sullivans and if I recall correctly she was the first US Navy ship to be named for more than one person. This ship is part of the Buffalo Naval museum on Lake Erie; my mother in law spent quite a few nights aboard her as part of the Erie County Sea Cadets detachment. Make sure you go visit the ship if you're in the area! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com javascript:; To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; Subject: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal Message-ID: 75caa265-6984-4170-9de4-cf89c7acd...@penoff.com javascript:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ugh. Looks like I'm going to have to do this on the 300E 2.6 this week. Eldest son says he's losing about a quart a week. Took a quick look in the engine compartment and as I expected, the timing cover seal is leaking... Fortunately, Tony did this a while before I bought the car, and in the box 'o' parts he gave me there's a partial tube of the good MB sealant. I don't recall ever having done this job, but I probably did at some point in the past. I know getting the cover back on is supposed to be tricky without rolling the seal. Anyone have anything to add? Thanks, That SUCKS. I spent a good amount time and read five or six methods of the best ways to do this to make sure this would never happen again. That was in 2007 and I was never really completely happy with the results. Sorry to hear that you only got seven years of that repair. With that said the sealant you have is also from 2007. Given the difficulty and complexity of the job and the problems with not doing it exactly right you may want to spring for a new tube! Tony wirtel Former 300e/2.6 owner -- Tony Wirtel mobile i3 +1 610.551.5923 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] M1 20w50
Right...thus the stmt abt M1 being much cheaper and easier to consistently find. That said, I may have used 15w50 a time or two...it was 4-5 years ago! Tony Wirtel There is. I used to use it in my Virago. Dan On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I hate to be that guy but I can't stop myself. Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist. I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad Hi Dan- I ran M1 20w50 for a time but still had occasional tapping on startup after the car sat for 3-5 days so switched over to Movil Delvac 15w-40 (1300 maybe?) which was much cheaper and easier to consistently find. Prior to M1 I used to use Chevron Delo 400 but after one change the hot (summer stop-and-go hot) oil pressure at idle dropped to .5 bar right after the change I switched to 20w50 M1. I hated throwing away oil with less than 200 miles on it- but w/the M1 saw pretty consistent lowest readings of 1.1-1.2 bar (hot weather/ full AC/stop and go). But M1 supply was spotty at best so switched over to Delvac, with no change in lowest/worst case oil pressure. Now, the car used about 1 quart between changes so for that I'd use any 20w50 or 15w40- I think I gave you whatever I had when you got the car. Glad to hear she's still going- I had an uh oh moment when you sent the email saying one of the cars got totaled out. Did you ever get the AC back up? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Ignition Lock Cylinder
I will say that according to him it went downhill rapidly. Dan: Any harm in just pulling the cylinder now while it's still turning? *IF* its like 126/123 cars after removal of the lock cylinder you can turn the lock/switch mech with a big screwdriver. With that said- I've only dealt w/this on a 123 and 126 and in those cases it was the steering lock mechanism that was the real culprit. However the lock cylinders in each car were dodgy in both cases and ready for replacement. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta?
Dan, Disconcerting to hear- I'd replaced that belt ROUGHLY a year before you bought it. The interesting thing was I'd been getting an occasional squeak so I got a Continental replacement; found that the belt on the car (which had about 30k miles/2 years) showed signs of imminent failure with chunks of individual ribs gone and cracking throughout where ribs were still present. But I'd not seen a belt fail that quickly and that dramatically before. When you mentioned replacement of the belt I'd replaced it sounded strange. I assume you've taken a straightedge to the idler pulley face? The idler assy was replace in the year b/f I bought the car, but that means it's from 2006 or so. You've checked for nicks; I can't think of anything else. Other than re-checking all pulleys to be true- I've had the pulley off the crank, p/s, water pump (and tensioner when I did the head gasket) back about 2007. The only other thing I can think of is Conti quality has gone away, but we would have heard of that by now, right? Tony Wirtel From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta? Message-ID: 2c336742-bfea-4955-87a2-1053acf9b...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eldest son comes to me on Saturday and says the belt on his car started shredding Friday night. We replaced said belt for the exact same reason a good 6-8 months ago which up until now has been fine. When we replaced the belt the last time I made a point of inspecting all of the pulleys to make sure there were no burrs or damage, and none was found. I looked at the belt and saw that just as it had before, the belt had shredded just a small portion, maybe 1/8 on the inboard edge. The rest of the belt is intact and undamaged. Any suggestions as to what might might be causing this? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pianos
Subject: Re: [MBZ] pianos .Snip As with restoring or rebuilding a car, in the long run it's cheaper to buy something that is either newer and ready to go, or one that some other poor soul has pumped big money into and now needs to unload it (for far below what they have in it.) Sound familiar? Dan Dan, no I would not know anything about that (grin). Tony Wirtel -- Tony Wirtel mobile i3 +1 610.551.5923 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No MB: B5 VW Passat parts for the taking
I think there are a couple of VW Passat owners here- do you need (or think you may need) suspension parts? Have leftover upper control control arms (front and rear, both side) and a pair of tie outer tie rods (lower). Also a front wheel bearing. All are from a 2001 (B5, pre-facelift 1.8t) Passat FWD that we sold a few years back. These are AFTERMARKET- not original VW so there is risk there, but the original VW upper arms were so bad that these were reportedly better than the original VW parts. Yours for shipping if you want them. we're moving and I don't want to take them and prefer not to throw them out. Tony Wirtel -- Tony Wirtel mobile i3 +1 610.551.5923 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Poly-V / Serpentine Belt RR
Dan, the belt is probably about a year old or less. Whenever i replaced them on that car all I had to do was remove the two shrouds in the back of the radiator. The shroud assembly is too wide in its entirety to come out with the space given but they made it two part so that it can be removed without removing the radiator or fan. It's a clever design but some care has to be taken to ensure that tangs go where they're supposed to under the radiator as well as for the rotating tabs of the shroud. This will make sense when you see it. You start by pulling the overflow hose retainer out of the one shroud which will unlocks and allows it to rotate. You can then remove the forward part of the shroud after the clips are removed. This leaves enough space for the back part of the shroud to then be removed. With the right combination of sockets the tensioner can be manipulated without removing anything else. However if you've not worked in that space it's hard to imagine the location you need to get to. A small mirror is your friend here. Hope this makes sense. I'm trying to force myself to use my iPad more but frankly think my android phone or laptop are still better choices for the way I use these things. Tony Wirtel Former '92 300e/2.6 Sent from my iPad Message: 9 Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:21:47 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Poly-V / Serpentine Belt RR Message-ID: 4e4fff17-aa58-42b5-bdc5-d7126fe8a...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I thought this was supposed to be easy... Just looked at the procedure for replacement of the poly-v belt on the 300E 2.6, as the one on the car has some little threads showing on the edges, so I'll probably be proactive on this. The CB manual shows the job being done with the fan and fan clutch removed. Is this really necessary? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating
te: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 18:48:32 -0400 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating Message-ID: 067b5ef2-5876-4283-b612-16ddf251e...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That doesn't make a lot of sense. I work a block away from the county central offices, and there is a DMV branch there that's totally dead, even at lunchtime. I asked them how I should deal with the purchase and they really didn't know. The catch-22 regarding temporary tags came up, and the person there admitted that they didn't know how you would go about it, as it's impossible under the current laws to get a temporary tag if the car is not physically in the state or your possession. Duh. I called PA and they were equally clueless. It wasn't until we were at the title place in PA that the offer of a temporary tag even came up. Dan Right... the Pennsylvania bureaucracy is a special kind of confusing. For certain types of title operations you go to private companies; for certain types of drivers license things you can go to private companies, online or the state (in local centers) and for some things you can only go to the state capital by mail. And it's quite common for the people who are actively involved to tell you have to go to somewhere else for something they're responsible for. I knew that temporary tags existed for transit however I thought they used to cost 15 or 20 bucks. It seems someone in the state had a brilliant eureka moment where they thought they could raise revenue and whack out-of-state people by raising the fee by five or six times. And if I was Dan I would've said the heck with it too. Given how dramatically the fee was raised I wonder how many others say the heck with it and if today they collect as much as they used to under the old structure. Tony Wirtel Former '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a 300SEL?
Sadly, after 40+ years of excellent results MB-texting has been made illegal by The Man in many states. Tony Wirtel Former owner of Dan's 300E w/MB-text From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a 300SEL? Message-ID: 47e61978-067d-4d66-9ce4-57c5252ea...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sure it's not MB-text? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding
Subject: [MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding Message-ID: 822b7b92-320b-4025-8212-96266de05...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Because its been too long since I have done this, I have to ask: Can you vacuum bleed, using a MityVac, an ABS system? I may have a pressure bleeder available, but if not, I do have a MityVac with a bleeder jar. TIA, Dan Dan, You want a pressure bleeder set to about 30 PSI- be careful to cover the reservoir in case the grommets let go (but if on the 300e those should be newer- MC was replaced not too long before I got the car). Also get the bleed nipple at the pump! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing M103 Top Timing Cover Seal
Dan- When did it it was MB sealant on the corners only IIRC- you've got the tube. Don't recall using anything else BUT that was around July 2007. And- there are only *6* pan screws; they look like sheet metal screws; something like a 5mm thread OD. If there is a second pan I've never seen it. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Monowiper Question
From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Monowiper Question Message-ID: 860b919b-0232-44fc-af35-e8f6a2750...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for that link, Bob. I will check out the N10 relay (which my car does have, and it is responsible for the wiper system) and report back. Dan Dan: Hope it's something simple- can't wait to see the results of the M. Stewart treatment! Next time you're in the area I need to get you another cheesesteak- I was disappointed in the one I got. There is MUCH better up here. Tony Wirtel (former) '92 300e/2.6, passed on at 181k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] P-51 lost at Duxford
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] P-51 lost at Duxford Message-ID: 4e1f1736.70...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So, analyze the other pilot. Why did he chose to hang on and manage to land the plane. Did the controls still feel like it was flyable? Did he just wait too long to make the decision to jump? Was the plane on a more even keel after the impact? Why did it happen the way it did? Randy Randy: The Skyraider is a brick outhouse with wings and a big honking motor out front. One of its missions in Vietnam was providing close ground support/enemy supression and protection to helicopters rescuing downed airmen. Its armor and stout protection made it the go-to for such missions and was in part the inspiration for survivability built into the later A-10 Warthog. My father in law spend some time in that part of the world and while he doesn't talk about it he will admit to being a Skyraider passenger once. Now, how someone 6'6 fit is beyond me but where there's a will and all... Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean brake pads
Larry, I've had Akebono euros on my '92 300e for abt a year. Initially installed b/c the Textar pads I bought had a lot of squealing since new and even triggered the ABS system at low speeds even w/pulling and cleaning multiple times. Only possible issue is that the pads seem loose and will clunk when backing up. I didn't measure to see if the pads are a bit undersize or what notwith a car pushing 20 years old I'm OK with it. Stay away from anything oes genuine...99 and 44/100ths percent chance that it's junk or worse. Tony Wirtel Mobile email ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trim color
Subject: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trim color Message-ID: 1CA1073C297443CA8CBBF7DE2E511FA0@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Exterior color of my 91 350 SDL is black, #040. Can somebody tell me how to identify the color code # of the grey trim on the bumpers and side lower trim? 'Need to order a spray can of it from Tower Paint. Is it with the regular paint code on the data plate on the radiator brace? If so, which one is it? Wilton Wilton, I've had good results from Paintscratch.com for my car; got both primary and trim paints from them and the match was excellent: http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/makepaint2.cgi At least that should get you confirming data to match on your data plate! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Tranny and The Turbo and other things
Subject: [MBZ] Auto Tranny and The Turbo and other things Hi Gang - A couple of weeks ago I wrote about losing reverse. At that time, I ordered one from Rusty and as soon as it arrives I will have it installed. Meanwhile we still drive but we avoid places where we might have to back up - fortunately, reverse still works pretty well when its cold. Now, the forward gears are getting slow to change at times - it has delayed upshifts and yesterday when running at 75 mph on the interstate the tach read 3000rpm - higher than it usually is at that speed IIRC. At the stop light, I ran through the gears and they all worked that time but it seemed to go into top gear very quickly and the accleration was sluggish - like the turbo was not spooling up like normal. Perhaps it was because it shifted into top too early - but the rpm's were in the 2500-3000 range. Anyone know where I can find a curve showing how the turbo comes on line with relation to engine rpm? Would the transmission shifting problems cause the turbo to go into limp home mode? I'm not very familiar with the controls of this engine/tranny - might be a dumb question - after all it's not an electronic transmission. Thoughts? TIA - LarryT 91 300D 2.5T Larry: A few years ago I did a transmission on a '91 300D I had; beyond frictions and seals I also replaced the modulator. However at the time I did not have a proper banjo fitting to measure the operating pressure set by the modulator and was (over)eager to test the transmission. It shifted fine on the jack stands and in my immediate area however upon warming up- about 10 minutes- the transmission started to act as you describe. It is possible that you've got nothing more going on than a wonky modulator. As a quick test you could disconnect the vacuum line going down to the transmission; with no vacuum you should have hard shifting for all gears as well as a hard downshift back into first as you slow to a stop. To know more you'll need a pressure gauge and banjo fitting- IIRC the fitting is the same as used on the top of the thermostat housing on early 300E models. I think there was a hollow bolt needed also but I don't remember the details on that but my dealer had both in stock. The good news is the pressure setting (about 50 PSI from the chart I had) is at the limit for 1/4 PVC tubing so you can use that for the brief amount of time needed for the test. In my experience having BOTH turbo and transmission issues crop up at the same time tends to point to the vacuum system- learned this from Marshall, may he rest in peace! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold this morning
Changing out the glow plugs on my old '85 300TD did wonders for cold starting. Had almost always run M1 and kept on top of valve adjustments. Before replacement I had to glow twice and crank like Jaime's video; after replacement the car started within one or two revolutions. Kicked myself for not doing it earlier, but the plugs had always tested fine with digital meter I *thought* I could accurately measure down to the range needed for glow plugs. Tony Wirtel Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold this morning Message-ID: sig.7006ca915c.4d3e3440.5050...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed yea probably. So what is the consensus? No pedal, half pedal? I usually dont give it any pedal till its firing on almost all cylinders then I start giving it pedal to rev it up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350sdl Thirsty
If I recall some words from Marshall Booth isn't seepage from the head gasket at #1 cylinder a possible cause? Left unattended for too long this was thought to contribute to rod bending. Of course check and make sure the simple things such as the reservoir cap checks out! Tony Wirtel 610.551.5923 Mobile email ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When did R134a start?
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:03:02 -0500 From: John Robbins je...@msstate.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] When did R134a start? Message-ID: 4c40ace6.30...@msstate.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 7/16/2010 1:50 PM, Allan Streib wrote: What's the earliest year that MB used R134A refrigerant from the factory for north america? Were there any issues early that were resolved in later years? My old '92 300D had r134 from the factory. No issues that I know of! John Interesting- my '92 300e w/2.6 motor (build date July 1992 IIRC) has R-12. Tony Wirtel '92 300e/2.6, 164k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dishwashers
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers Message-ID: 4b9d5691.1030...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the dishes, which seems to get worse and worse. Im looking for a new one. Anyone got any to recommend or avoid? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Kaleb: Our Maytag dishwsher is a similar vintage and we went through the same exercise, including a phase when I just wanted to pitch it. But after replacement of one part inside the tub w/filters- called an accumulator- it works like new. I'm attaching a pic to this email which I expect will be stripped from list distribution. The accumulator is under the main wash arm, and is basically one piece that includes most everything you see at the base exclusive of the wash arm. Cost was ~ $40 and replacement time was ~ 10 minutes. I got mine locally but there are several online sellers that have really nice parts listings w/drawings and/or schematics to confirm what you've got. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2009-12-27 15.19.19.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 651116 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100315/1de1b063/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brabus Smart Car
The local dealer here just shuttered their Smart outlet. Positioned across the street from the main MB dealership it was a purpose-built building for Maybach, then used cars, then Smart. Smart is a decent concept but the sole US transmission is terrible on its best day, a trait emphasized in every review I've read. The need for premium fuel for its Mitsubishi engine didn't help. Tony Wirtel From: John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brabus Smart Car Message-ID: 632eba9d1001172243h799ff0d3kf0f39ad2235e1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Read somewhere recently that the buzz is over and Penske may be pulling the rip cord on the Smart for the USA. John On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:40 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I was interested in them when the Diesel was porported to get 70mpg. I lost interest when they didn't import the Diesel to the US. Now we're seeing them around frequently. I see them on my commute to OKC, and on around half the trips on the Interstates in OK. My wife loves the look - might have one in my future, so I'm also interested in the responce to your questions --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New member intro and 190e question or two To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c387a4fd-2b12-483a-91f4-5098ef954...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Thanks for the replies Gary, et al; Drove it 20 or so miles. Parked it over a piece of cardboard. 30 minutes later I had 2 silver dollar sized spots of motor oil from the rear of the engine. There is no evidence of coolant leaks. The spots were about 6 apart perpendicular to the chassis under the rear of the motor. Almost like it was running down either side of the bell housing. Where does the 2.6 motor leak oil?If it were VW, I'd say rear main seal. (Additional info: 157k miles, auto trans.) The coolant reservoir has enough oil in it to get the milk of magnesia look floating on the surface. I could be wrong, but it looks fairly significant to me (But what do I know? That's why I'm here!) I guess I'll give the guy his grand and take a chance. Now about pulling the slide rail pin(s)? Thanks again. Jim Jim- I've BTDT with the 2.6 in my 300e. The oil leaks you mention are much larger than I'd seen before I did the head gasket on my car. Did you by chance look up higher on the motor? The most common area to see these leaks is on the pass. side towards the rear. If you see that much crud in the reservoir you should also take a careful look at the hoses for deterioration caused by oil. The guide rail pins were easy on my car- I bought a box of hardened M6 bolts from Grainger (p/x 4XY69) and planned to use the bolts with washers to extract the pins but the pins on my car came out easily. Would have been fine with normal grade bolts. One BIG caution though is my recollection that the 2.6 in the 190 is a bear to work on compared to the 300e. And in the 300e one still needs to be very careful as when pulling the head limited clearance in the rear can cause the head to shift forward and put just enough force on one of the rails to crack it. Replacement means pulling the front timing chest and ~ 8 hours time- don't ask me how I know! If asking for a grand I'd offer 500, max. You have much work ahead of you, and this assumes normal wear items like the rear subframe mounts and suspension links have been replaced and everything in the front suspension is 100%. Tony Wirtel '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300E, 103 engine
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:25:34 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] '91 300E, 103 engine To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 437bc980908221825l38777fc5odc1c885ebcf18...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 How many miles per gallon can one expect to get, highway and/or mixed, in one of these cars? Do you have to burn premium fuel, or will it adjust the timing for regular or medium? What to look for other than the wiring harness, ACC, rear suspension links ??? Does the 103 engine have the same serpentine belt tensioner that the 602/603 uses? -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos Don- Over about 50k miles my '92 300E w/2.6 motor goes about 20 MPG mixed highway/city, and up to about 24 with steady state cruise. Unless the 3.0 has much more low end grunt, a 2.5 turbo is a more relaxed driver especially in hilly country. MAY not be a consideration for you! The 103's don't have a knock sensor that I'm aware of and will provide ample audible grumpitude on regular 87 octane and even some 89 that the car doesn't like. As far as I know the 103 did not have the crumbling insulation; my recollection is that was a M104 feature. And if the rear links are bad, go OEM only- lots of junk out there. My car still has functioning ACC, but the defrost pod does leak some and since I have the pass. airbag I don't want to mess with replacement. Also, the recirc diaphragm just failed within the past 2 weeks. Only caveat is the head gasket. Mine was replaced by the PO at 100k miles by a decent shop, head also rebuilt at the time. Was leaking again at 120k and I replaced two years ago with new head bolts. Now at 152k I've got leakage at the back corner. Tony Wirtel '92 300e/2.6, former 2.5 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090822/a3148cf7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - GMS 1/2 ton truck?
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - GMS 1/2 ton truck? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: mailman.345.1240413404.11481.mercedes_okiebenz@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I'd buy the 26' uhaul IH truck for $3900. You might have room to haul the mini and the stuff. In OK, they can most likely sell the truck for $4000 Personally, I'd rent one. But if they want to buy a truck my company has a 2000 GMC w/26' box that they're getting ready to sell for that kind of money. Could either put the Mini inside (lol) or tow it w/the ball already there. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Craigslist substance abusers
20k for a w123: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1105807336.html http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1106034572.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090404/9914583a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A real genuine MB Question!
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A real genuine MB Question! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 632eba9d0904031306k7072d7daq18982ef2bcce...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes to everything except the rusty spring perches.That was reserved for the next generation 210's. Oh yeah, then there is also the leaking head gasket issue as well. Of course, a review of the service records may eliminate some of these concerns. John John- W124s can have spring perch rustout, too! Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090403/e0d1c890/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 40, Issue 143
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33:09 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49d04b85.4080...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the best in the past. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Take what you can with a sample size of 1 but we've had a Frigidaire from Lowes for just over three years now. Only issue has been an occasional slight dribble from the front door w/really full load, which appears to be nearly universal for these puppies. I got the extended warranty b/c of the history of these being problems in the past and relatively new tech for the US manufacturers building them. Washer has paid for itself with reduced hot/warm water consumption, reduced demand from our well is a bonus. Much easier on clothes but these do retain some water and you'll likely get mold at some point esp. if the door is kept shut. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/09256208/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
oops- changing subject this time On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33:09 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49d04b85.4080...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the best in the past. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Take what you can with a sample size of 1 but we've had a Frigidaire from Lowes for just over three years now. Only issue has been an occasional slight dribble from the front door w/really full load, which appears to be nearly universal for these puppies. I got the extended warranty b/c of the history of these being problems in the past and relatively new tech for the US manufacturers building them. Washer has paid for itself with reduced hot/warm water consumption, reduced demand from our well is a bonus. Much easier on clothes but these do retain some water and you'll likely get mold at some point esp. if the door is kept shut. Agree that it won't last 30 years but it hasn't needed service, either. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/8c13a898/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audi diesel
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audi diesel To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49beefcd.2080...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Will give that a try. Does the rear tail section need to be removed to get the govenor off? 2nd question, can this operation be done with the tranny in the car on a 201? 1) Don't think so but governor is different than .4xx boxes- held in with expanding clip inside 2) Not certain about the 201 but you've got a decent shot if you drop the rear mount and let the rear hang down. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090317/6b046784/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E300 going cheap, ending soon
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:34 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] E300 going cheap, ending soon http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEW AX:ITitem=300299206944http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEW%0AAX:ITitem=300299206944 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK Low on power, leaking from a hose and can't drive it. I smell a head gasket problem or worse. Saw Delaware which could be ~ 30 minutes away, but this place is 2.5 hours. Some weird issues for a relatively low-mile car. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090315/7828b6c4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Your Order with Amazon.com
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 40, Issue 26
The government subsidizes kiddie plantations. Unfortunately, the quality goes down as the quantity goes up, and you get large numbers of useless offspring that grow into useless adults. Mitch. Ever see the movie Idiocracy? Depressingly predictive of the future, I'm afraid. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090308/91eceaa8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] STupid 190D tranny
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] STupid 190D tranny To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49aad037.5020...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed yea, that would be great, let me know when you can. Thanks Kaleb- found that I posted this, so this might be useful for the archives here. Listers, After rebuilding the transmission in my '91 300d I wanted to make sure pressures were correct. I found pressure data and a way to set the modulator pressure ONLY without a proper gauge set. Your local dealer should have the following pieces: 915036 005100 Hollow Bolt 102 990 00 88 Banjo Bolt If not already spotless clean the area below the modulator around the 12mm pressure port bolt. Remove bolt, checking again that all is clean. Replace with hollow bolt/banjo bolt combo- will also need sealing washers, but I had those. In my case the pressure to aim for was 47psi so I was able to use 1/4 PVC tubing as mine was rated for 50 PSI. I used a water pressure gauge that read to 80 PSI; a bit more coarse that I would have liked but it got the job done. Gauge was checked for accuracy beforehand. It should be noted that all tubing, fittings and the gauge were all new and previously unused. This isn't somewhere I wanted to chance contamination. I used about 8 feet of tubing to have enough to read inside the car. Connected the gauge and confirmed that there were no leaks. Was curious to see that there was very little difference in pressure at 31 MPH or at idle, but I did both. Adjust the modulator by removing the cap, pulling the tee out a bit and rotating- a little rotation goes a long way. I think I replaced the cap between readings as my modulator (new, updated style) leaked vacuum with the cap off- I can't remember if that made a difference on the gauge. I'm writing this up ~ 3 months after the fact so if there are more details needed give me a shout! Modulator pressures for a range of transmissions are below; these are all I have. Note that this method is appropriate for the modulator pressure only: The pump/line pressure can get to 200 PSI which will spectacularly burst PVC tubing of the type I used. Tony Wirtel 722.4 Models Set @ 31 MPH Version Color PSI .400 Green 46 .403 Green 44 .408 Green 57 .409 Red 48 .410 Green 51 .413 Red 47 .414 Brown 41 .416 Black 44 .418 Red* 47* To serial #813648 Black* 47** From Serial #813649 722.3 Models Set @ 31 MPH Version Color PSI .301 Green 51 .303 Green 42 .304 Red 51 .309 Red 41 .310 Red 57 .311 White 48 .312 Red 54 .313 Red 58 .315 Green 42 .317 Black 46 .320 Black 57 .321 Black 46 .323 Red 58 .324 Green 52 .342 Black 58 .350 Black 55 .351 Black 58 .352 Red 55 .353 Black 59 .355 Black 55 .358 Black 58 .359 Red 55 .361 Red 55 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090301/b328a050/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] STupid 190D tranny
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] STupid 190D tranny To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49a9bbfe.9070...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed yea, I kind of figured, where would one find a gauge that would work? Peter Frederick wrote: You will need to get the pressure specs and the gauge hook-ups to test the control pressures and shift points. Peter KAleb- to set pressure for the modulator I used the banjo bolt combo used on the top thermostat housing of certain w124 cars. SInce pressure was ~ 50 PSI PVC tubing worked fine, but sounds like you need to measure pump pressure and working pressure. If you need the p/n for the bajo bolt let me know; have them at work and can get them Monday. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090228/b1b8c642/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] European Headlights
Howdy - I am considering Euro headlights for my 91 300D - but I worry about them not having the DOT alignment bumps for the US alignent machines. I'm sure I can align the lights the old fashioned way - a flat wall, some tape and a darkened garage. But I worry about passing the state inspections. Anyone know? Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) Larry, I put them on my '92 and haven't had any issues with inspection, and PA is somewhat more difficult compared to VA. When in Charlottesville I saw a few W124s with euros. Tony Wirtel '92 300e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090217/b5b700d2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tranny jack sure makes install easy
Subject: Re: [MBZ] tranny jack sure makes install easy To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49752110.3030...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed This one http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=3185CategoryName=SubCategoryName= Got the same one about a year back. Wouldn't want to see how well it held up day in and day out but should be good for a few transmissions. I think regular price is $199 but often seen at 99 or 119. Also useful for lifting the front of a small lawn tractor... Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090119/39df291c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4970b9a7.2060...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed dont forget all the special tools you will need Not sure how many special tools you'll need- the only one I can remember is a 3/4 drive 1 3/16 socket (12 point) that worked quite nicely on the output shaft nut. Already had that, thanks to my Dad who used to use it on olde Beetle rear hubs. Was the first time I'd used that, though! You will need an assortment of internal/external ring pliers and an assortment of pics (think dental instruments). Used some pipe fittings to compress the ~ 16 springs that are part of the front pump. While this was all on a 722.4xx box I don't think the .3xx is much different, other than in how the governor locking mechanism works- a rotating paw in the .3xx, an internal clip on the .4xx There are special tools to establish proper gaps in each of the clutch packs. The new friction discs are a set thickness but you set the exact gap by replacing the steels- these are available in variable thicknesses. On mine the B3 discs (reverse) were the most worn. In that set there was perceptable wear in the steels- of the total increase in gap of the whole set about 15% was due to wear of the steels. But since there was no excessive discoloration of the steel I reused them. My thought was that OK this time the tranny may only go another 200k instead of the 300k it went the first time. And there was a differance- reverse took about a half second to engage instead of being nearly instantaneous. But given that it USED to take 3-5 seconds I was OK with that! Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/fe556c75/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF
Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission repair factory PDF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 432920.83209...@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've got almost all that already. There is a very nice spring compressor that you can buy which looks really handy. Yes, the 722.4 and .3 are very similar. They are covered in the same ASTG rebuild manual that I bought... http://www.atsg.biz/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=actioncategory=EIMPkeywords=allpricecode=passsubnum= So, you obviously rebuilt a 722.4 - did you have any trans rebuilding experience before you did it? Did you use a manual to guide you through? If so, which one? It's amazing that the clutch disks last as long as they do. Now that I have a bit of a clue how the automatic trans works, I've changed my view on them a bit. They don't really break at 200,000 miles the wear pieces just wear out. Of course, the hard parts can break, but that is not usually the case, it seems. Chris- This was my first. I'd gone through the service literature a few times and found it most helpful. Other than that it was basic follow the directions, document anything special, bag parts/assemblies from like areas and document where those were (writing notes in the directions)- pretty basic stuff. Get lots of little containers to sequester parts. Use a digital camera to take lots of pictures through the teardown. In my case I use the top of a folding table covered with three layers of plastic. My only wish is that the table had a lip to contain the fluid you WILL lose- no matter what you do you'll still have ~ a half quart inside the box. You'll need lots of rags, preferably lint-free ones. I got away with paper towels, but cleaned the inside of the case with rags and pieces with rags (not paper towels) on reassembly. I found and used a tub of transmission assembly lube, which being quite viscous was quite useful in certain areas where o-rings etc might have wanted to move about a bit. Also VERY useful when mating the valve body back into the box. Other than dropping the whole valve body (keep track of which bolts go where) I didn't do any further disassembly; figured 1) it didn't have issues before; 2) there are a whole MESS of parts, balls, pins, springs etc to cause grief given half a chance and 3) if there was a problem, I can quite easily get the body back out. I deliberately did the transmission on a weekend the family was out of town for a weekend so I could focus, concntrate and take my time. But overall it was straightforward. If you've tackled something like ball joints where you need to assemble plumbing fittings to press in the joint, you've got a good head start on the kinds of things you'll need to get creative on. While I'd always love an excuse for more tools, most of the special tools for the transmission would not be terribly useful otherwise. I really was amazed at how little wear there was. Even on the B3 brake assembly, at least two of the friction discs still had visible imprinted ink on them. Only two were significantly worn. After everything is back in you'll need to dial in the modulator; there is a MB gauge set for this but you can also use a banjo bolt used on some M103 thermostat housings as a purge fitting; this fitting, some 1/4 PVC (nprmally rated to 50 PSI, right around where you need to be) and an accurate gauge will help you dial in the pressures. Tony WIrtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/1985af5d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW minivan/was Uplander
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uplander To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 632eba9d0901071424v1c207e9dxeb674da26dcd9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You're not alone Roger. They will stop making this model this year. Speaking of mini-vans, how about that VW advertising for their new German Engineered mini-van. Well, guess what, it's just a Chrysler mini-van with a different facia. How gulible is the average American anyway? Apparently not QUITE that gullible, yet. Talked to two VW dealers while looking at Passat wagons and both said they're turds. Each dealer was sitting on over 10 of these turkeys. I kinda wondered how VW would fare with these at a VW premium pricepoint when Chrysler can't move them with several k $ in rebates and incentives. Gotta love marketers! Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090107/fd40e27e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular
Does the M103 have a knock sensor? I didn't think they did. Mine pings big time with 87. Tony Wirtel -Original Message- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Date: Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 11:54 am Subject: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular was Re: Fuel prices To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.comReply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Andrew wrote: Do you require premium or regular gas? That is up in the air right now. The manual says premium, the fuel cap/door say premium. But, I have asked a few others that have this car and some of them say it needs premium and others say it is a waste of money. I have not noticed any difference in mileage or performance when using 87 octane. I was concerned that it might ping but it has not. I don't know what to think, so I have been putting in 91 (premium) about every other tank. I talked to one of the techs at the dealership I worked at and he said that if the octane is too low and it starts to ping, the knock sensor will catch it and it will retard the timing slightly to compensate for it. So, it is possible that I might have less power with 87 than with 91. I don't really know what to think. In the past (especially in my 90 300SEL), I thought I could tell a difference when I put in 87 rather than 91. Maybe I was just imagining it. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081230/5fc9e10d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular Your poor m103 with a 9 or 10 :1 CR, no wonder it is pinging! An no, there is not a knock sensor on that motor (at least the early ones). They will ping until they crack a ring and melt a piston. Look at the m100 (6.3) rebuild pictures on my website. That is what a lean mixture and advanced timing will do for you. Not much different than running crap fuel in a high compression motor. In the end one always pays... sooner (good fuel) or later ($$$ to your mechanic and parts dealer). If you can't afford to feed your MB good fuel, you should be driving a Toyota or Honda. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com Mathieu- My point to the original poster was that I didn't think the M103 had knock sensors so don't rely on a component that isn't there to save your bacon. My car did get 87, once. It was the only option at one point after hurricane this or that ~ 2 years ago. I know my motor started at ~ 9.2:1 and has probably had the head shaved so is a bit higher than that. That coupled with no knock sensor and a dislike for even 89 octane has taught me all I need to know. SHould take a look at your site but I've also seen pistons pockmarked from preignition- thankfully, not in my car. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081230/f4f69202/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT, kids and cell phones
About a year ago, the wife wants to get the 12 year old a cell phone. I pitch a bitch saying that is just stupid, he can get one when he gets a job and can pay for it. Well, he ends up getting one. Just now, the 11 year old was given one for his b-day, I think that is even more stupid. Why the heck do kids need these? I didnt get one till I was in my 20's. The kids say all their friends have them. Geez. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Lots of my neighbors in the McMansion development down the street (and a few of my friends) have mortgages that they're now upside down on by say a new S *and* SL class. Had to live there, though, because of job/pride/status. Sometimes its GOOD to NOT be just like the friends/cool kids! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081230/a4aa9d35/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Pulled the valve cover today to survey the damage. Looks like there is supposed to be a slide rail at the top of the head under the chain toward the middle side of the engine, which is not there. Is this correct? Looks like its broken which caused the valve cover to break. Chain is intact and it does not appear at least from the outside that there are any bent valves. So, opinions on what needs to happen? Does that slide rail need to be replaced or does it need to be torn down and all of them replaced? If just one one, is there a way to replace it from up top? Looks like I might have to split the chain and put in a new master link. See pics http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/119brokenvalvecover/ Kaleb-- Really looks like a good look into all of the guide rails is in order- that means pulling the cover off, which is a job. But you've had pieces of broken guides traveling in and among the (formerly) good ones, which has likely damaged at least some of them. That plastic gets brittle with age and temperature. With the cover off you may be able to get a better feel for what happened before pulling the heads. But I'd start preparing for that OR looking for another motor. THat said you may luck out and find that the valves haven't bounced on the pistons. Unlikely, but possible. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/f92d8668/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Well the 190D fired right up after less than 10 seconds of glow this
morning, ran smooth as silk right off the bat, had normal power.
Luther wrote:
Thanks, but how does that help me? :)
Luther
My past 2 diesel projects ('85 300SD, 91 300D) started fine down to 9
degrees F without using the block heaters. This with good glow plugs on all
and a valve adjustment on the SD; both were on dino oil.
Tony Wirtel
No diesels this year
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Re: [MBZ] I get the 140
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I get the 140 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49447045.9020...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed do you think that will help the big crack in the valve cover? E M wrote: try running a wire from the trans to the rad and just driving it home. Ed 300E not only will it help you'll also get 40 MPG driving home- just like they say on ebay tony wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] photos of the new E-Class
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=137466?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#2 Generic. Looks like anything else coming out of Toyota, Honda, Lexus, etc. Allan -- 1983 300D Allan- Somewhere there's a Sonata missing it tail lights... Tony Wirtel '92 300e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GM downsizing
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Wow so some places will have an awful surplus of Chevy dealers? Mac not for long. Plan is to drop another ~ 20 % of dealers, mostly in more populated areas. Local Chevy dealer had a full front and back lot last week; yesterday it was EMPTY. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.6/2.8
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.6/2.8 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII ...It's a M104 2.8L. Hendrik.. So says the description, but the trunk lid number is 2.6. The 300E 2.6 is an M103 153HP stripper 300E whereas the 300E 2.8 is a 194HP M104. RLE Yep- I've got a '92 300e/2.6, and while I'd have preferred a '93 2.8 service records sold me on my car. If all other things are equal, get the 2.8 (starts in '93) or better yet, 94/95 3.2 but be aware of the biodegradable engine wiring harnesses. The 2.6 is a decent car, but gutless. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E420 problems
Subject: Re: [MBZ] E420 problems 3. When first driven when cold, the transmission won't shift from 1 to 2 unless the engine is revved above 3,000 RPM. I'd rather not have to make it go that fast immediately and would prefer the trailing-throttle upshifts it does after it's been driven a little while. If like my '92 300e there is a switchover valve above the brake booster. For testing purposes, you can unplug this and see if the 1st gear hold is temporarily disabled. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:43 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 Ouch- we have a 26' box truck with a 454, and that thing will do 6-7 MPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)
With Mobil 1 15W-50 now in the crankcase (and the car well warmed up), the oil pressure needle sits at 2.5 (very little bouncing) at idle. Don- I used Delo 400 for a change in my '92 300e and went through something similar; replaced with Delvac 1300 and pressure was back to normal. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting engine
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interesting engine To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hey you guys are like encyclopedias, I think you are right -- it was sorta missing on some strokes, I guess it did not need to fire on them. Cool. When I was a kid my dad would go and take me every year to a gathering of old steam engines. Lots of old farts in funny hats and bibs fussing with the things while they chuffed and made very loud dangerous sounds (the engines, not the old farts, though some of them let fly some choice words occasionally).. I loved it. --R Rich- If you enjoyed that then, you'd love this place http://www.roughandtumble.org/rt-albums/rt-2007_reun/rt_photo_2007_reun.asp The museum is close to Lancaster, PA and about 60 miles of Philadelphia. We went there in August and saw so much big steam equipment like http://www.roughandtumble.org/rt-albums/rt-2007_reun/c/4764rt_2007_1_040.asp#Photo that we got numb to it. And about 50 or so hit-and-miss engines of various power and design, some standalone, some as a piece of equipment like this saw http://www.roughandtumble.org/rt-albums/rt-2007_reun/c/5518rt_2007_2_259.asp#Photo Wonder what OSHA would saw about this little marvel today... Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] QANTAS dive
In case anyone believes laptops and such can interfere with flight controls: QANTAS DIVE TRACED TO COMPUTER GLITCH The abrupt dive of a Qantas A330-300 last week that injured scores of passengers wasn't caused by a passenger's electronic device, but by an internal breakdown in the Airbus's flight-control computer system, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said on Tuesday. The aircraft was flying at FL 370 en route from Singapore to Perth when the Inertial Reference System malfunctioned, which resulted in the autopilot automatically disconnecting, the ATSB said. However, the faulty unit continued to feed false information to the flight-control computers, which even with autopilot off, still command the control surfaces. Very high, random and incorrect values of the angle of attack led the computers to command a nose-down aircraft movement. The crew was able to recover within seconds, with a maximum altitude loss of 650 feet and a maximum pitch down of about 8.5 degrees, the ATSB said. Airbus told the ATSB it has never heard of a similar malfunction, but all operators of aircraft that use the system have been informed of the incident and provided guidance for a crew response to minimize the effect of any similar failure. The ATSB said its investigation is continuing. RLE Hope the next similar Airbus glitch doesn't occur at 600 ft AGL. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D transmission, anybody got any ideas?
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D transmission, anybody got any ideas? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Can I pull the valve body out of the old tranny and put it in this one? How hard is it to pull the valve body? Im guessing a hell of a lot easier than pulling the whole tranny. Kickdown cable unplugged? You mean the wire to the kickdown solenoid? I have it unplugged right now, does same thing plugged in. Pulling the body is easy- Keep track of the bolts; several lengths are involved and there are a lot of them. The body will drop from the trans as a unit but actually has 4 layers. Do NOT disassemble the body unless you have gaskets and diagrams to know what goes back where when a few springs jump out (do this in a contained space where springs cannot get lost!). . When dropping the body Also keep an eye out for a few little bits. If like the 722.418 on my 300d there is a little plastic valve and other bits that MUST be set just so and may come out from where they belong when you drop the valve body. Do you have any pics to show the lines you mention? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] little man is home
Subject: [MBZ] little man is home To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brought him home today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK Congrats- Remember fondly those nights of uninterrupted sleep. You'll get 'em back, somewhere between 3 weeks and 3 years! TOny Wirtel '92 300e, '00 boy child, '04 girl child ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I dont think he is talking about torque converter bolts Good point- I simply thing of it as a flex plate; didn't have mine off when I redid the trans as the rear seal was dry. Given the weight of the TC empty, what does the flywheel weigh? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris B?nter u. B?gel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengeh?use Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) Chris- Shouldn't be any different from a 602, which has 6 bolts, paired together and visible through the cutout in the bottom of the block case. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Now SST's - was B-58
If I remember correctly the Russians actually put them in scheduled service inside the USSR for a while. They were retired because they burned too much fuel -- took a full 30 min of afterburner at full reheat to get up to altitude and speed, and that shortened the range too much (along with the usual Russian airplane maintenance, etc). The TU is pretty snaz for 1968 -- variable pitch turbofan with duct burning reheat, and I believe variable pitch compressor first stage, too. If the Ruskies could every keep their aircraft stuck together and used rational tactics, they'd beat the pants off of us. Good thing is that's not likely to change! The Georgians shot down at least one Backfire bomber and a couple top of the line fighters last week. Peter Peter, If *I* remember correctly the Concordski burned so much fuel b/c it had to run reheat to stay over Mach 1. If you compare the design of the wings, the Concorde was more complex and that was the reason I recall for better fuel efficiency. Of course, efficiency here is ENTIRELY relative. One story I read was that the Tu-144 was used to haul mail for the proletariat at one point. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid tranmission
Subject: [MBZ] stupid tranmission To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So I have spent all weekend trying to pull the stupid transmission on this 190D Im working on. Its tight but I got all the bolts out with no problems at all. Unbolted torque converter etc, then get ready to slide the tranny back. At this point the damn thing is about out and is just hanging there but there is NO ROOM for it to drop all the way out. You see, instead of the torque converter coming out with the tranny, it stayed where it was and the tranny came out of it. Kaleb- Do what you can to get the TC back into the tranny. put the rear mount back in and pound the TC free through the access hole in the bottom of the block. Might have to rotate the TC 90-120 degrees a few times to do it. I don't think that the trans will drop with the TC in place, and having the mass of the motor free while trying to drop the trans would cause me some concern. WHen I did the rebuild on my 300d 2.5 the converter didn't fight much, but it did try to stay in place. Also FWIW I found loosening the engine mount bolts ~ 3 turns seem to help let the motor tilt a bit more. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus retaining wall crash
Also- a/c was a pedestrian A340 rather than A380. Happened in November. Tony WIrtel Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: THE TALE OF THE ARAB FLIGHT CREW To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 No secret about this - it's posted in a number of public forums. http://airlineworld.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/etihad-airbus-slams-into-wall-while-engine-testing/ Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Midnight on the dash 24/7
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:34:20 -0500 From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Midnight on the dash 24/7 There was some fellow name James, I believe, who was on this (or mbz.org?) list a few years back who retrofitted his with LEDs. He liked the results. I believe he replaced the lightpipes with wires and put the LEDs out at the end. The rheostat will probably not dim the lights much because the LEDs will draw a lot less power. -- Philip I resemble that! http://www.mbz.org/articles/interior/dashlights/ Could use a good re-write, though. When I did mine I tried foil first, but wanted more so went with LEDs. Good news is that white LEDs are now more white, readily available and cheaper to boot. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Tom Hargrave wrote: Sears has sold products that were made overseas for a lot longer than you realize. Tom- After buying two different saws from Sears I've come to the conclusion that if I'd normally consider Sears I might as well get it from HF. IN GENERAL a lot cheaper, about the same quality, and a lot less gnashing of teeth when it breaks sooner than expected. That said I tend to buy keeper things from estate sales and such. Craigslist is a great source. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mixing 87 and 93 octane
Well, I think we'll be trying that! I just always figured it'd react like that 250C: badly. Last time I topped off the 16v, I pumped 5 gallons of 93 octane, then finished with 6 gallons of 87, which gave me a mix of about 70% premium. No ping noticed so far. Getting near half a tank again, I'll probably lower the premium content to 60% today and see what happens. Mitch: Have tried that successfully with my 300E, ~ 9 gal 87 and 6 of 93. Saves about $2-3 tank compared to using mid-grade ane net octane is higher. Takes less than 2 extra minutes. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mixing 87 and 93 octane
Some stations (Sonoco?) used to have pumps that allowed you to select the exact octane you wanted with a lever. In the background, the pump dispensed a mix of super premium regular based on the lever setting. The 102 octane leaded racing gas I mix with regular works better in my Corvette! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 Tom, The stations here have button selectors that mix 93 and 87 internally to dispense 89. I mix to get 89 or better octane at lower cost. In my area, regular, mid and premium are about 4.09, 4.29 and 4.42, respectively. If the pricing was applied linearly, 89 would not be 4.29 but instead about 4.20 instead. Saves about $2/tank and takes less than two minutes more time. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Horrible noise - And the WINNER IS ....
This is why our '90 300D 2.5 is named Rattled - as in past tense. One motor mount was totally collapsed when I bought it - wife was certain that I was out of my mind for trading good money for a car that made that kind of racket. She's amazed at how nice it is with new mounts. amazingly quieter when the engine mounts and the frame are not in direct contact. Trashed motor mounts were the first thing I replaced in my just-departed '91 300D. Nice and easy, with near-instant payback. But for rewards its hard to beat a transmission rebuild with everything working well after the pressures are dialed in right! Tony Wirtel '91 300e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civic
Sunil, If gas keeps edging up my gut is on the high of the numbers. Heck, read this for yourself...$7,300 for a 12 year old Metro... http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/05/20/geo.metro/index.html?iref=newssearch Tony Wirtel '91 300d w/crazy high miles for sale ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD
Andrew- Having recently been in and through the transmission of my '91 300d I can GUARANTEE there are other parts and seals ready for replacement. Many (but not all) o-rings were so brittle that they broke on removal. At minimum, with the pump out you're 90% of the labor time/cost to go in all the way and replace the clutches and at least examine the bands for condition. On my car (with 306k miles) many of the friction discs still has visible printing on them, but there were three (two in the reverse K2 pack and one in K1) that were breaking down and worn to the point where there were significant delays going into gear (~ 5-7 seconds reverse, 2-3 forward). And this was in a car thats only 17 years old! If your indy is good at these (they're not hard, just have to be precise and work in a clean environment) the $600 differential is a bargain. If the trans needs ANYTHING else it'll be close to $600 just for RR! That said, with the problem you describe if you do go the indy route make sure he is aware of the process to drill out rivets and then tap/replace with screws to renew one of the seals. I can't remember when the change to rivets occurred, so your car may be easier, but if there is an identified pump issue this is one definite area to attend to. With all of that said, did the dealer tell you what the working pressures were at? Tony WIrtel w124 300d, 300e Too late - like I say, the dealer's cappuccino rocks... We'll see how much time this simple replacement buys us. She only drives about 5k miles/year. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:46 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the pump is worn enough to not generate enough pressures, I suspect that most other parts are similarly worn. At that price, I would not stop at changing the pump. I'd do as the others have suggested - buy a rebuilt from Rusty and have it installed. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:37 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey stay focussed! This is NOT about either Clinton. Upon more rigorous road testing, the dealer ascertained that car still refused to shift into 4th gear despite the linkage adjustment. Further shop testing diagnosed the front tranmission pump was leaking (internally), thereby preventing adequate pressure to get the car to shift into fourth. They claim that replacing the pump ($1300) will solve the problem. This is cheaper than a rebuild ($1900 at an indy shop) and way cheaper than installing a factory rebuilt transmission ($4500). Any advice or comment? SWMBO is leaning toward having them replace the pump. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD
Tony, What sort of pressures should they be? Andrew, Will send some info directly- Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD
Hey Tony, As someone who also owns a 91 300D I was happy to hear how your 300 is doing! At 150k miles I can look forward to many more miles of happy motoring! I use Mobil 1 ATF and it shifts so smoothly I cannot feel it unless I really try to detech the shifts. Same for all other systems. Now that I hear you have 300k+ and things are still holding together well it makes me think this might be the best MB we've owned. Sounds like the clutch packs were on the way out in your tranny - One question, how hard would you say the tranny was to rebuild?? Maybe on a scale ot My '91 had low miles when I bought her in Jan 06 at just 99k miles. It just keeps getting better - it's got to be one of my favorite MBs! Thx for the info - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) Larry, I've not driven another w124 chassis diesel, but compared to yours I'd guess the shifts on mine are more firm. Personally, I prefer it that way! For degree of difficulty its a matter of keeping clean, having lots of work space that won't mind exposure to ATF, some good documentation and keeping good track of the process. Take your time and keep things organized. I did mine when my wife and kids were out of town for a long weekend and could completely focus on the job. On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being 123 chassis brake pads, I'd guess this is a 7? That comes from experience with a bunch of other areas on these cars. In the last year I've done rear subframe mounts, ball joints, spring replacement and head gasket replacement on my M103 car. Compared to things like subframe mounts the transmission could be considered easier, as the work is straightforward, at least as compared to removing the old mounts! Having some decent tools is a great help. If you can't get the transmission out safely nothing else matters! I bought a transmission jack with a tilting table deck to make alignment a non issue and some 6 ton jack stands to get good clearance of the transmission once its down. While I thought the transmission jack would be a one time thing, I've found its great to lift my riding mower and I'm sure I'll find other uses as well. Now back together this car has impressed me. For some reason the 300d rides better than the 300e, and the D is a more relaxed driver with the available torque. I just might sell both and get a newer wagon, who knows. But it sure is an enjoyable car to drive. I also just found out that the ALDA still has the original cap; I think it would be even nicer adjusted ~ 1/2 turn CCW! Tony Wirtel '91 300d, '92 300e/2.6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Front Seat Sag Fix
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:29:53 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Front Seat Sag Fix To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, I have tired various kinds of stuffing over the years on 123 seat bottoms . Only real fix is new spring frame-and since you are at it put a new pad on -only about 90 dollars from Rusty. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI Dwight, I did a pad and frame renewal on a 123 about 6 years ago; I think prices are MUCH higher now! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] trans output flange nut
What size is the nut on the rear output shaft flange deal? Is it 30mm 12pt or some special size? Looked locally and closest I can find are some SAE sizes. What would the equivelant sae size be, if any? Bought a 1 1/4 I believe and it would not work, a hair too big I think 30 30 mm is = 1.181 inch 25.4 1-3/16 inch = 1.187 inch, a lot closer than 1-1/4. Craig Craig, Kaleb- I used a 1 3/16 12 point but unless you've got a deep socket you may not get to the nut- there is a centering shaft that is 1/2. . I used a 3/4 drive socket with success. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:00:04 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm thinking I'd put my ramps on doubled 2x12s to gain an extra 3, drive the front onto the ramps, then jack up the back and put it on a pair of those big truck jack stands. If the drive isn't concrete, I'd put the stands on 2x12 for stability. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38847 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34924 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39178 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3185 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95640 Luther wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark Luther: I did my 300d (w124) w/the 6 ton stands (4 of them, under still sound lifting pads, front higher than rear) and the 800lb jack above. With the stands about 3/4 up and the jack down and plate tilted forward a bit to lower the bell housing I cleared by about 1/2 inch. Don't screw w/the scissors jack; not worth the hassles (800lb one much more stable and adjustability saves time and grief). can always sell the jack when done! Personally I don't like ramps. Would advise against wood as replacement for jack stands. If using wood at least bolt together- screws break WAY too easily. While you're in there- great time to replace the rear main seal. Are you putting in a reman/junkyard tranny or DIY rebuild? The rebuild isn't as hard as it might sound! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make things better. --R Rich That's been done in several countries. Mexico comes to mind. Lots of oil available, but after years of quasi-governmental control they've been importing- especially in refined fuels. Venezuela? Take a look at their recent production trends. Russia has also been active in re-appropriating oil fields, and they've also seen production stagnate with their former partners gone. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 29, Issue 141
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:37:28 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make things better. --R Rich That's been done in several countries. Mexico comes to mind. Lots of oil available, but after years of quasi-governmental control they've been importing- especially in refined fuels. Venezuela? Take a look at their recent production trends. Russia has also been active in re-appropriating oil fields, and they've also seen production stagnate with their former partners gone. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't move
You must have lifted your foot -- the engine will race otherwise. If you were coasting, it might have dropped, but with the CC it should have raced the engine. The speedometer dropping to zero might indicate that the drive gear failed, but it should keep reading if the driveline is turning as the car rolled, unless you sheared a flex disk or snapped a pinion gear. You need to examine the driveline for damage, and check to make sure the bolts that hold the torque convertor to the flywheel are intact (although they usually make a racket when they break off). Check the shifter bushings and link to make sure it didn't fall off (it happens) leaving the shift lever unconnected to the transmission. Otherwise, the most likely thing is a sheared pump drive. No pump, no pressure, no pressure no clutch engagement, it's in neutral and will stay there. Peter Peter- I was thinking along the same lines. But this car has a second pump at the rear, so there would still be pressure to operate the transmission although if the torque converter bolt went theres no power to transmit from the engine. When it went wonky did the speedo go to zero immediately or as you slowed to a stop? IF the converter bolts went it should be easy to see, but you need the car up in the air to find out- with the car up and the engine running, the converter would be stationary when viewed from underneath through the same cutout you drain the converter from. When at idle is it at regular idle speed or does it seem slower than usual? Does running the AC really lug it? If not, then the OVP is fine (I'm pretty sure you lose the tach w/o the OPV). Other than that, I can't connect these dots! In any case you'll need to get underneath; would also be good to check for operating and modulator pressures. Another thing (grasping at straws) is perhaps the filter is plugged and theres no fluid being drawn? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#transmission 41mm 6 point socket? No, I don't think so. I think it's one of the 30mm 12-point jobs. (I don't have one.) -- Jim At least on my '91 300d its a 12 point nut. While (I think) its nominally a 30mm bolt, my 30mm 1/2 drive 12 point socket wasn't deep enough- I ended up using a 3/4 drive 12 point 'Merican socket (I think its 1 3/16, can check tonight if you want) that my Dad had in his box. I always wondered why- might be usable on old Bug rear wheels or something like that. The nut is peened over at one point as well- Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 24/02/2008, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month. In the credit card industry, a person doing thsi is known as a deadbeat! What does that tell you about them? Zedic If any question, read this- http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/15/credit-cards-banking-biz-wall-cx_lm_0215badcards.html?feed=rss_popstories Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Transmission modulator replacement
Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required pin 126 277 93 75 is single piece and it APPEARS that the piston piece should be pulled from the modulator. Is this correct? I can't get it out of the bore with reasonable force. Any insights are helpful; I called and Tom didn't have any info for these. Thanks! Tony Wirtel '91 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Transmission modulator questions
Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty and have a few questions. 1) This is the updated modulator with a different setting mechanism but NO tee. I assume I need to transfer the tee from old to new? 2) The new modulator leaks down from 20 to 15 vacuum in about 1.5 seconds. It should hold vacuum, no? Also tested my mity vac and while seals aren't perfect my finger at the end of the tube holds from 20 to 15 in about 9 seconds. When the modulator is connected I have to pump vigorously just to get to 20. 3) The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required pin 126 277 93 75 is single piece and it APPEARS that the piston piece should be pulled from the modulator. Is this correct? Any insights are helpful; I called and Tom didn't have any info for these. Thanks! Tony Wirtel '91 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay sucks
So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton Reading the ad the guy sez that its relisted b/c original winner couldn't execute quickly, implying that that person is some kind of jerk for not playing fair and THEN sells it out from under you as the high bidder? Bogus. I'd guess there are ways to make this more difficult for the seller, but would probably be twice the hassle for you and that in the end negative feedback is all you've got. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Someone needs to do this to a 123
Besides being pretty, it's nice and safe too with those added crumple zones. lol Ed 300E Yeah- I saw South Carolina plates; I perhaps no inspection mechanism there? Here in Pennsylvania you'd be having uncomfortable conversations with law enforcement, quickly. Tony Wirtel Coupla w124s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb- Parts?
Let me know if you still have the w124 trunk latch and vacuum transducer valve- I need to get this rolling, soon. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D I am going to disconnect the foam tube and see if it will work on different temp settings. What is going on with that tube is it a vacuum to draw air in slightly from the cabin? Exactly. The 124/126 use aspirator motors, others just tap the suck side of the main blower. (Not sure about the 201.) If either side is disconnected, due to jostling or foam rot, cabin temperature regulation goes all to hell. -- Jim I've had success with cleaning and applying ATF to get one of these working again- this on a w126 300sd. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota/Mercedes hoods
Looks like where getting ripped off on the price of Mercs over here, not that I am in the market for one of the new plastic fantastics. I suppose the bonnets are sealed and can only be opened by a certified technician with a special tool. Also loved ones don't let loved ones drive death traps like the corolla. No, not exactly sealed, but when one pulls the hood release a warning comes on the display that sez Warning: There be Dragons under there; Return to Dealer. Tony Wirtel 2 x w124's ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
Wasn't the OEM (someone like BOGE) pressured to stop selling them so MB could mark them up more? This far out there can't possibly be any IP issues but then again, it would be a small market in any case. A former '67 230s (110 or 111) had a bad one. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Testing vacuum transducers
I've searched through the service CD but thus far haven't found a test method for vacuum transducers. These are the black units used to control things like EGR, intake vacuum flaps, and turbo pressure. According to info I've found these were used in 201, 124 and 126 diesels from at least 1986-1991. Thanks! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee
On Dec 5, 2007 9:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will use the MB 3 litre turbocharged CDI V6, an all aluminum engine, producing 367 ft-lbs of torque.? Seems like the sale of Chrysler to Cerberus would have aborted this plan. snip Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. Alex- the TD grand cherokees are out there, just not that many. In Chrysler's thinking b/c its a diesel it has to be marked up as a ~ 5k option; by the time you get to the bottom of the window sticker you have a price thats up with the gen-u-ine article MB's. Saw one at a local dealer here in the late Summer. And just think of how much fun it would be to get serviced. I've heard stories about Crossfire (rebodied, previous-generation SLK) customers- dealers who don't know a thing about them. Go to a MB dealer and there is a rumor that MB dealers aren't to touch them. Now, take the completely foreign diesel plopped into a Jeep and see what fun dealers will have with figuring those out. Tony Wirtel 92 300e, 91 300d, others ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No boost in '91 300d/ early results
a HA! With a direct connection between the ALDA and intake, and controlled vacuum applied to the turbo control valve via mity vac in car, the turbo IS alive and the car pulls much better. Limited test to two runs of 5 seconds each and 18 vacuum. Won't know how healthy the car really is until getting things done by the local indy reset to original configuration. Initial thoughts of going the easy way- monitoring EGT and limiting pressure to the ALDA through a regulator- not only brought back the your PISTONS will MELT post but of everything else der Doktor would have said, starting with a stern reminder to consider what I THINK I know vs what the teams of Mercedes engineers who designed the engine ACTUALLY knew when they did the work! Will post when finally fixed. Thank You to all! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d
The only way to get the car running like it should is go to thru the 170 some page diagnostic procedure on the CD. Have fun!! --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor THAT is what I was afraid of! Oh well, better me than the indy who put that BB there in the first place. I'd hoped that with bypassing EVERYTHING- going straight from the intake manifold to the ALDA, given that the vacuum transducers had already had vacuum supply cut off- it would work like an olde-fashioned, purely mechanical system. With the looking I didn't see how the electronics would still regulate fuel enrichment, unless theres something integrated into the pump I can't see or elsewhere that I just don't understand. So tonight, a good read of the diagnostics in front of the football game. Too bad I don't have a fireplace anymore and I'm out of scotch... Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d
Tony, Marshall (MHRIP) would have told you to not assume the transmission is bad until you have the engine performing as designed. The power produced by the engine will affect the position of the throttle, hence the shifting firmness and also the shift timing. Some time in the 90s, it became a no-no to tamper with the EGR on the turbo diesels as the computer would know, and lock out the boost, or fuel, somehow. Basically go into non boosted configuration. You should pin that down! Did you change all the fuel filters? Also try driving without the fuel filler cap on the tank, in case it is not venting properly. I have a very nice Garrett from an 87 603 engine, but it is marked TBO 359. Photos available. $275, no core required. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles Jim, I've been playing with this car for about a week here and there, and ya know after being on this and the R/E list for some time now I've caught myself thinking a bunch of times don't assume; think it through- what would Marshall say here with what I have (or DON'T have) in front of me? Last weekend when I was playing with this the thought came to mind that Marshall would know what to do here, and I instinctively thought to post and ask. But since we haven't heard much, I assumed that he was dealing with something more important with some sense that it wasn't good. But we have his example of being a teacher, of methodically assessing and evaluating a problem to a logical conclusion, at least most of the time. And we will still miss him. Anyway, on the transmission: There can be 4-5 seconds delay to get to reverse, and even then I've sensed a slight slip once. When in drive I don't get the slamming I think I should with the vacuum disconnected- shifts are firmer, but probably not as firm as they should be. Also the info I have is that at 305k miles the transmission has never been out of the car. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No boost in '91 300d
I've got the 300d home and found that the transmission needs a rebuild as expected, but also that I don't have boost. What I know: - Tracing vacuum diagrams I found that the EGR and recirc flap control have already been BB'ed at the vacuum source - Turbo seems to turn freely. Some oil in the intake but nothing big. - Putting pressure gauge in line between intake and ALDA see about 3 PSI, max. - With pressure to ALDA on acceleration (5-10 PSI) there isn't a jump in power from expected fuel enrichment - Putting a line direct from intake to ALDA doesn't help (something that worked on another car) - Applying pressure to the ALDA shows minimal leakage - EGR has a plate covering the port - Turbo overpressure rod moves freely - Car doe not appear to have a cat/trap in the exhaust system - OVP is OK This car has a LOT more going on than the last car I had a no-boost problem with. On that, a 300sdl, jumping a failed switchover valve fixed it. This car has at least 2 more vacuum/pressure control pots, a mass air flow sensor, and a boost sensor near the battery. I'm not familiar with any of these, and the service CD's are at best spotty with coverage. My questions: - With the added systems is there an electrical element added to the injection pump that would prevent enrichment when jumpering the intake to ALDA? - Does anyone have a used Garrett TB025 turbo if mine proves bad - Anywhere else I should be looking? Thanks! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '02 C230 Sports Coupe
Evidently my two remaining at home girls saw this yesterday: http://www.germanautoservice.com/show_auto.php?idno=58 They love it. What is the story on these? Do I make my gals happy or run away? Bob R. Bob: My 2 cents: Run. That's an optimistic price for a car with few buyers. In my area that money will get you a decent 1-2 year older E class , but understandably a 4 door sedan doesn't have the same appeal! The ones I've seen have all screamed cheap. One example is doors that when closed sound more like Chevy Cavalier than Mercedes, and when the door closes the outer skin flexes and shimmies worse than that POS Cavalier. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay 300SDL with level control
What makes you think it has level control? If you are talking about the tank under the hood, that is for the ASD. These did not have level control, only the 560 did (US cars). Oops. But couldn't (at least rear) level control be special ordered for the other 126 cars? I thought it could, tho' it was expensive, a hassle and thus, rare. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ebay 300SDL with level control
Kind of an odd duck, no? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-Mercedes-Benz-S350-SD-Diesel-w-78k-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ180183622509QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New refrigerant
I'm guessing the patent on 134 runs out about then. The deal about R-12 was that Dupont could no longer control the world supply, and therefore prices for R-12, so we had to figure out a way to get rid of it. Dupont owns the 134 patent. Here we go again. As said patent issues for R-12 and -134a are urban legends stuff. By the cynic wonders how someone might figure how to modify CO2 (or combo with something else) to make THAT patentable and then the lobbyists make sure that's the only permitted blend. Also: With all the trouble with using circulating 120 bar CO2 as a fluid why not just go and compress AIR, dump heat under expansion, and use THAT? I can't pretend to know anything about the efficiency, and moisture would likely be an issue. But it gets me thinking... Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
