Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I've found the same thing with ox-acetylene welding - though I've only been
welding for 40+ years now, and only with MIG for the last year.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Thanks, Hope you found it useful.
>
> With a bit of practice you can lay down a "stack of dimes" TIG weld with
> it.. [OK.. maybe a "lot of practice".. haha.. ]
>
> Pretty TIG welds are a function of hand eye coordination that can only come
> from practice.. measured in inches of weld laid down... I've been welding
> for 50 years now, and if I don't do it for a while, I lay down a few inches
> of ugly before it all comes back together... So, I recommend you weld
> often.. go to the metal sales yard and pick up some cut offs for cheap to
> just practice on.. often...
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:53:47 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > As it happens, I have one of the Eastwood TIG welders. Picked it up on
> a
> > > special sale they were having, along with one of their plasma cutters..
> > >
> > > It's a very passable TIG unit. It doesn't have anything close to the
> > > "grunt" my Miller 500 amp TIG / Stick welder has...but it has solid
> > > copper transformers and was built 50 yrs ago with an industrial
> > > production duty cycle. So, no "apples to apples" comparison there. The
> > > Eastwood does decent work.. isn't under powered for light work, the arc
> > > is stable with little variation [all good stuff if you are making
> pretty
> > > welds and consistent penetration.]
> > >
> > > In all, I have to say, "It does the job nicely on 220 power."  I have
> not
> > > even bothered to try it on 110... nor would I.
> >
> > Thank you, Grant, for the first-person review.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>


-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks, Hope you found it useful.

With a bit of practice you can lay down a "stack of dimes" TIG weld with
it.. [OK.. maybe a "lot of practice".. haha.. ]

Pretty TIG welds are a function of hand eye coordination that can only come
from practice.. measured in inches of weld laid down... I've been welding
for 50 years now, and if I don't do it for a while, I lay down a few inches
of ugly before it all comes back together... So, I recommend you weld
often.. go to the metal sales yard and pick up some cut offs for cheap to
just practice on.. often...

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:53:47 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > As it happens, I have one of the Eastwood TIG welders. Picked it up on a
> > special sale they were having, along with one of their plasma cutters..
> >
> > It's a very passable TIG unit. It doesn't have anything close to the
> > "grunt" my Miller 500 amp TIG / Stick welder has...but it has solid
> > copper transformers and was built 50 yrs ago with an industrial
> > production duty cycle. So, no "apples to apples" comparison there. The
> > Eastwood does decent work.. isn't under powered for light work, the arc
> > is stable with little variation [all good stuff if you are making pretty
> > welds and consistent penetration.]
> >
> > In all, I have to say, "It does the job nicely on 220 power."  I have not
> > even bothered to try it on 110... nor would I.
>
> Thank you, Grant, for the first-person review.
>
>
> Craig
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:53:47 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> As it happens, I have one of the Eastwood TIG welders. Picked it up on a
> special sale they were having, along with one of their plasma cutters..
> 
> It's a very passable TIG unit. It doesn't have anything close to the
> "grunt" my Miller 500 amp TIG / Stick welder has...but it has solid
> copper transformers and was built 50 yrs ago with an industrial
> production duty cycle. So, no "apples to apples" comparison there. The
> Eastwood does decent work.. isn't under powered for light work, the arc
> is stable with little variation [all good stuff if you are making pretty
> welds and consistent penetration.]
> 
> In all, I have to say, "It does the job nicely on 220 power."  I have not
> even bothered to try it on 110... nor would I.

Thank you, Grant, for the first-person review.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I agree with them.

TIG has the control needed to weld thin materials [with welding skills]  As
always, aluminum must be super clean at the time of the weld, gas envelop
needs to be managed properly, and condition and shape of tungsten tip in
the torch is critical to control weld puddle size and contamination.

Get it all just right, and you have a sound weld that is to pretty to cover
up.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 6:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> More experienced airplane builders don't think that a MIG will work well
> welding 0.032" aluminum for a fuel tank.
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:36:12 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I bought a MIG welder with a spool gun for welding aluminum, but I
> > > haven't tried it yet.
> >
> > Ah! I see.
> >
> >
> > > there is skepticism that I will be successful welding 0.032" aluminum
> > > sheet with it, but TIG should work fine.
> >
> > Skepticism from whom? These would be aluminum panels for your aircraft?
> >
> >
> > > Plus, you can never have too many tools!
> >
> > I've heard that before!
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

As it happens, I have one of the Eastwood TIG welders. Picked it up on a
special sale they were having, along with one of their plasma cutters..

It's a very passable TIG unit. It doesn't have anything close to the
"grunt" my Miller 500 amp TIG / Stick welder has...but it has solid copper
transformers and was built 50 yrs ago with an industrial production duty
cycle. So, no "apples to apples" comparison there. The Eastwood does decent
work.. isn't under powered for light work, the arc is stable with little
variation [all good stuff if you are making pretty welds and consistent
penetration.]

In all, I have to say, "It does the job nicely on 220 power."  I have not
even bothered to try it on 110... nor would I.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:36:12 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Yes, I bought a MIG welder with a spool gun for welding aluminum, but I
> > haven't tried it yet.
>
> Ah! I see.
>
>
> > there is skepticism that I will be successful welding 0.032" aluminum
> > sheet with it, but TIG should work fine.
>
> Skepticism from whom? These would be aluminum panels for your aircraft?
>
>
> > Plus, you can never have too many tools!
>
> I've heard that before!
>
>
> Craig
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

More experienced airplane builders don't think that a MIG will work well
welding 0.032" aluminum for a fuel tank.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:36:12 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Yes, I bought a MIG welder with a spool gun for welding aluminum, but I
> > haven't tried it yet.
>
> Ah! I see.
>
>
> > there is skepticism that I will be successful welding 0.032" aluminum
> > sheet with it, but TIG should work fine.
>
> Skepticism from whom? These would be aluminum panels for your aircraft?
>
>
> > Plus, you can never have too many tools!
>
> I've heard that before!
>
>
> Craig
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>


-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:36:12 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yes, I bought a MIG welder with a spool gun for welding aluminum, but I
> haven't tried it yet.

Ah! I see.


> there is skepticism that I will be successful welding 0.032" aluminum
> sheet with it, but TIG should work fine.

Skepticism from whom? These would be aluminum panels for your aircraft?


> Plus, you can never have too many tools!

I've heard that before!


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, I bought a MIG welder with a spool gun for welding aluminum, but I
haven't tried it yet. there is skepticism that I will be successful
wielding 0.032" aluminum sheet with it, but TIG should work fine. Plus, you
can never have too many tools!

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 17:24:14 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I just read good reports about these TIG units on a home-built airplane
> > forum:
> >
> > http://www.ahpwelds.com/
> >
> > http://www.eastwood.com/tig200acdc.html
> >
> > I might have to buy one to build my aluminum fuel tank . . .
>
> I thought you already bought a welder.
>
> I have been eyeing the Eastwood welder for a while for some fabrication
> work I need to do, but the AHP welder looks good, too. The videos on the
> home page seem to have a lot of good information a new welder needs.
>
>
> Craig
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>


-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 17:24:14 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I just read good reports about these TIG units on a home-built airplane
> forum:
> 
> http://www.ahpwelds.com/
> 
> http://www.eastwood.com/tig200acdc.html
> 
> I might have to buy one to build my aluminum fuel tank . . .

I thought you already bought a welder.

I have been eyeing the Eastwood welder for a while for some fabrication
work I need to do, but the AHP welder looks good, too. The videos on the
home page seem to have a lot of good information a new welder needs.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I just read good reports about these TIG units on a home-built airplane
forum:

http://www.ahpwelds.com/

http://www.eastwood.com/tig200acdc.html

I might have to buy one to build my aluminum fuel tank . . .

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 6:16 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hey Max,
> The thing that hit me when I bought a MIG welder was "Man, with some
> thought and planning I can create stuff." It just struck me as one of those
> moments when possibilities are endless.
> What I'd love to have now is a TIG welder. It seems their prices have
> come down a bit too.  Don't know if you are thinking Stick, MIG or TIG.
> Each have their own learning curves and a auto-dimming helmet makes like so
> much easier.
> Good luck -
> LarryT




-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

scrap yard - they have all kinds of stuff
LarryT

On 07/07/2017 6:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Anyone know where to buy the steel?


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Hey Max,
The thing that hit me when I bought a MIG welder was "Man, with 
some thought and planning I can create stuff." It just struck me as one 
of those moments when possibilities are endless.
What I'd love to have now is a TIG welder. It seems their prices 
have come down a bit too.  Don't know if you are thinking Stick, MIG or 
TIG.  Each have their own learning curves and a auto-dimming helmet 
makes like so much easier.

Good luck -
LarryT

On 07/07/2017 6:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[clay via Mercedes]

Schnitzer should have ample steel by you.

Maybe it is all sitting at the PnP, but there could be a shop or two across the 
river

clay
\
> On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm in Vancouver, WA.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via 
> Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:12 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Craig
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?
> 
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 10:57:16 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Craig's in my area has a lot of ads for steel surplus. you might find 
>> what would work for you there.
> 
> What area are you in, Greg?
> 
> Our local (Albuquerque) craigslist has some listings for steel, but the 
> sellers want near-new or new prices.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Uh, not to be a buzzkill, but 316 stainless would be multiples of the price
of regular steel tubing. Stainless is also not as strong, requiring
different scantlings for the wall thickness and probably different overall
tubing dimensions for stiffness. Add to that the complexity of welding it,
which would require a tig setup, considerable skill, and a dual flowgauge
regulator to back purge. And the fact that you need some excellent drill
bits and a super saw to have any prayer of getting through it. Most stuff
like this would be 304, but in reality for weight and other reasons
aluminum is the way to go. I bought an ACE out of Florida 10,000lb with
stainless surge brakes for the rib and have not regretted it.

If you go regular cold rolled, which you should, wash it out with solvent
and then dump a quart or two of primer inside after it is welded. Flip/tilt
the frame to coat the inside. Make sure there is a way for the water to get
out.



On Jul 7, 2017 3:52 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Uh, yeah, from your steel distributor.  Stainless may not cost much
> different than carbon steel and primer, paint etc.   No idea who your
> distributors are out there.  They are generally called [family name] steel
> such as Jorgensen steel etc.
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:45 PM
>> Anyone know where to buy the steel?
>>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 12:58:43 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I'm in Vancouver, WA.

I see.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I'm in Vancouver, WA.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via 
Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Craig
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 10:57:16 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Craig's in my area has a lot of ads for steel surplus. you might find 
> what would work for you there.

What area are you in, Greg?

Our local (Albuquerque) craigslist has some listings for steel, but the sellers 
want near-new or new prices.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 10:57:16 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Craig's in my area has a lot of ads for steel surplus. you might find
> what would work for you there.

What area are you in, Greg?

Our local (Albuquerque) craigslist has some listings for steel, but the
sellers want near-new or new prices.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Craig's in my area has a lot of ads for steel surplus. you might find what 
would work for you there.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade Dillon 
via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 6:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

That's a thought, scrap prices are so low now that if I could find what I need, 
would probably be pennies.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:39 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> How about some used Metal from a salvage yard?
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's a thought, scrap prices are so low now that if I could find what I
need, would probably be pennies.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:39 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes 
wrote:

> How about some used Metal from a salvage yard?
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

You've touched an another of the drivers, my boat trailer is unique because
I have a sailboat with a swing keel.  The combination of the round hull and
the swing keel result in the boat sitting very high on the trialer.  There
are two bumpers or supports on the sides that stabilize the boat
side-to-side, and they are about two feet or more above the "floor" of the
trailer, on angle iron welded to the trailer frame.  None of the trailers
I've seen for sale have them, so I'll have to have any trailer I purchase
modified with those additions.

My trailer has another unique feature, the tongue can be extended about six
or eight feet for launch, so the back of the two vehicle doesn't end up in
the water.  I've yet to see a trailer with that option as well.

I'd really like to find a cheap used trailer with the load capacity for my
boat, and then either pay someone to modify or do it myself.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 1:00 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> That's not crazy at all.  Sounds sensible, especially if a
> purchasable trailer doesn't fit your boat or needs.  But you will
> probably want more than just a welder.  Maybe a band saw, abrasive
> cutoff saw, possibly sheet metal brake, and some place to paint it.
>
> I got my flatbed trailer from a local custom shop and had them
> build to my request.  Maybe there's one near you that could build
> what you want for not much more than what the material would cost
> you.
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

How about some used Metal from a salvage yard?


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-07-07  5:52 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy? 
Uh, yeah, from your steel distributor.  Stainless may not cost much 
different than carbon steel and primer, paint etc.   No idea who your 
distributors are out there.  They are generally called [family name] 
steel  such as Jorgensen steel etc.

> Max Dillon via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> July 7, 2017 at 5:45 PM
> Anyone know where to buy the steel?

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Meade wrote:
> Subject: Am I crazy?

Yes. Clearly you are.

> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own
> boat trailer.

Oh - for wanting to do _that_ you think you qualify as crazy?

That's not crazy at all.  Sounds sensible, especially if a
purchasable trailer doesn't fit your boat or needs.  But you will
probably want more than just a welder.  Maybe a band saw, abrasive
cutoff saw, possibly sheet metal brake, and some place to paint it.

I got my flatbed trailer from a local custom shop and had them
build to my request.  Maybe there's one near you that could build
what you want for not much more than what the material would cost
you.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ryerson is a major vendor.  Of the others, I'd pick the ones that have 
steel or metals in the name.  Palmetto state steel for example.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:45 PM
Anyone know where to buy the steel?
Curley McLain 
July 7, 2017 at 5:41 PM
316 Stainless?



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You'll want to meet your local steel supplier. I met mine last spring, fun 
place. Call ahead they probably don't do much walk up sales.POR15 chassis 
paint...
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Max Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   Anyone know where to buy the steel?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 7, 2017 6:41:24 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>316 Stainless?
>
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM
>> I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and
>
>> such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only 
>> thing that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be 
>> hot-dipped galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard 
>> corrosion.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:16 PM
>> Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a 
>> trailer you
>> will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
>> saving money - - -
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>
>>
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM
>> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat
>trailer.
>> The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer
>from
>> 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it
>has
>> pretty much reached the end of its life.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>
>
>___
>http://www.okiebenz.com
>
>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

  
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On July 7, 2017 at 6:53 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That sounds intriguing, certainly unique!


You can finish it in clear UV resistant epoxy. 
The UV resistant part is vital, I made a wooden rack to put an ice chest in 
front of the trampoline on my Hobie 16, the regular epoxy I used didn't last 
one summer, would have been much better off with ordinary varnish. 

Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Max there is a small supplier on Johns Island that has channel and box 
stuff, and I think there is an outfit called Charleston Supply or some 
such that has it. In any case just use the googs and you should find one 
easy enough.  I have seen some of these places around in NChuck, can't 
remember where but they around.


--FT


On 7/7/17 6:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Anyone know where to buy the steel?


--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Or better yet, start with teak 2x6.  I have one, but don't remember how 
long it is.  at least 16' I think.


Ripped and laminated?  Just get the Navy to let you chuck a couple 
treated 20' 2x6s in a 8" or larger steam pipe, cap it off, apply steam.  
Next morning they will be like cooked spaghetti.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:51 PM
Somewhere I have plans for a wooden boat trailer (and matching 
sailboat) in old Popular Science magazines. You were expected to buy 
proper plans of course, but a guy could make do for the trailer 
anyways from the sketches in the magazine article. IIRC, it had bent 
wood rails, spaced at leaf spring width, then bending in towards the 
hitch at the front.


IIRC, your boat is pretty light.
2x6 ripped thin enough to bend and laminate are probably adequate, 2x8 
would have plenty of margin of safety I'd think.

You'd likely need new springs, galvanized axle, etc, but I bet the entire
package would be quite cheap.

Mitch.



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Somewhere I have plans for a wooden boat trailer (and matching sailboat) in old 
Popular Science magazines. You were expected to buy proper plans of course, but 
a guy could make do for the trailer anyways from the sketches in the magazine 
article. IIRC, it had bent wood rails, spaced at leaf spring width, then 
bending in towards the hitch at the front. 

IIRC, your boat is pretty light. 
2x6 ripped thin enough to bend and laminate are probably adequate, 2x8 would 
have plenty of margin of safety I'd think. 
You'd likely need new springs, galvanized axle, etc, but I bet the entire
package would be quite cheap. 

Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ripped and laminated?  Just get the Navy to let you chuck a couple 
treated 20' 2x6s in a 8" or larger steam pipe, cap it off, apply steam.  
Next morning they will be like cooked spaghetti.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:51 PM
Somewhere I have plans for a wooden boat trailer (and matching 
sailboat) in old Popular Science magazines. You were expected to buy 
proper plans of course, but a guy could make do for the trailer 
anyways from the sketches in the magazine article. IIRC, it had bent 
wood rails, spaced at leaf spring width, then bending in towards the 
hitch at the front.


IIRC, your boat is pretty light.
2x6 ripped thin enough to bend and laminate are probably adequate, 2x8 
would have plenty of margin of safety I'd think.

You'd likely need new springs, galvanized axle, etc, but I bet the entire
package would be quite cheap.

Mitch.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On July 7, 2017 at 6:45 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anyone know where to buy the steel?


https://www.yellowpages.com/charleston-sc/steel-suppliers

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That sounds intriguing, certainly unique!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 7, 2017 6:51:04 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Somewhere I have plans for a wooden boat trailer (and matching
>sailboat) in old Popular Science magazines. You were expected to buy
>proper plans of course, but a guy could make do for the trailer anyways
>from the sketches in the magazine article. IIRC, it had bent wood
>rails, spaced at leaf spring width, then bending in towards the hitch
>at the front. 
>
>IIRC, your boat is pretty light. 
>2x6 ripped thin enough to bend and laminate are probably adequate, 2x8
>would have plenty of margin of safety I'd think. 
>You'd likely need new springs, galvanized axle, etc, but I bet the
>entire
>package would be quite cheap. 
>
>Mitch.
>
>___
>http://www.okiebenz.com
>
>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Uh, yeah, from your steel distributor.  Stainless may not cost much 
different than carbon steel and primer, paint etc.   No idea who your 
distributors are out there.  They are generally called [family name] 
steel  such as Jorgensen steel etc.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:45 PM
Anyone know where to buy the steel?


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Anyone know where to buy the steel?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 7, 2017 6:41:24 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>316 Stainless?
>
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM
>> I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and
>
>> such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only 
>> thing that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be 
>> hot-dipped galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard 
>> corrosion.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:16 PM
>> Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a 
>> trailer you
>> will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
>> saving money - - -
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>
>>
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM
>> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat
>trailer.
>> The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer
>from
>> 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it
>has
>> pretty much reached the end of its life.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>
>
>___
>http://www.okiebenz.com
>
>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

316 Stainless?


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM
I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and 
such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only 
thing that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be 
hot-dipped galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard 
corrosion.


--FT




OK Don via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:16 PM
Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a 
trailer you

will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
saving money - - -

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM
I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Clean the metal, spray with Rustoleum, and when it final does rust out, you
get to build a new one, incorporating all you learned after using the first
one for years . . .

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and
> such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only thing
> that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be hot-dipped
> galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard corrosion.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 7/7/17 6:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a trailer
>> you
>> will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
>> saving money - - -
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
>>> The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer
>>> from
>>> 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
>>> pretty much reached the end of its life.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>>
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>>
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>


-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

I bought a buzz box and my son and I rebuilt a boat trailer about 15 years ago. 
Used the frame and all new running gear. Repaired original frame. Has never 
come apart.


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-07-07  5:03 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: [MBZ] 
Am I crazy? 
I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I won't be doing much beyond painting it for corrosion control.  I did see
in the latest Eastwood flyer a rig for media blasting that uses a pressure
washer, so no dust flying around.  That would be pretty cool, maybe I could
do that in my driveway every several years and repaint the trailer to keep
the corrosion in check.


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and
> such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only thing
> that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be hot-dipped
> galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard corrosion.
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well, keeping cost down is one of the drivers, so I'll have to see about
that part.  The other major driver is an excuse to buy a welder!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a trailer you
> will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
> saving money - - -
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat
> trailer.
> > The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer
> from
> > 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
> > pretty much reached the end of its life.
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and 
such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only 
thing that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be 
hot-dipped galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard corrosion.


--FT


On 7/7/17 6:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a trailer you
will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
saving money - - -

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com






--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a trailer you
will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
saving money - - -

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
> The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
> 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
> pretty much reached the end of its life.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>


-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[clay via Mercedes]

That looks just like the 300SE my kid owns.  Not sure it drives any better

clay

On Mar 26, 2016, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> Here is the car btw
> 
> http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5498776570.html
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You’re out of your ever lovin’ cotton pickin’ mind.
>> 
>> For $1500, maybe.  I certainly wouldn’t go above that considering the 
>> gremlins that could be lurking in the thing.
>> 
>> And as far as unique parts, there aren’t enough to make it worthwhile beyond 
>> that amount.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I 
>>> stopped in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have 
>>> always wanted one as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30 
>>> minutes about the car. He did specifically mention replacing the engine 
>>> wiring harness so that is a somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of the 
>>> guy who had to jump the car because it has been sitting for a while not 
>>> being driven. I get there and they have turned the car off and now it won't 
>>> start. Battery is toast. So looking at the car is it fairly clean, interior 
>>> in pretty good shape. Engine compartment looks clean. I ran the carfax and 
>>> it appears to have many maintenance entry's listed. It also had an accident 
>>> reported back in 00. I can't tell it though it was repaired properly it 
>>> appears. Clear coat on the top surfaces is starting to go, not real real 
>>> bad get. So I told the guy I may come back in the morning with the battery 
>>> out of the SDL. Of course he says it ru
>>> ns great
>>> yada yada. My concern is the check engine light does not light when key is 
>>> on so bulb is probably out, so I can't tell if it's for a check engine 
>>> light if I do go back and start it. As I have said I have wanted one of 
>>> these as a toy to mess with. It's a 1st year car but on the plus it has the 
>>> for 400 plus hp where as the next year they were tuned down to about 380. 
>>> Guy wants $2500 but I bet I can get him down. Car has 150k miles. It's on 
>>> the "hood" if that tells you anything but has not been ghettoed out or 
>>> anything. So am I crazy and should run away or is it a crazy good deal and 
>>> I would be crazy to pass?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I offered him $1500 he said lowest he would go is $2k. I passed.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Probably so. I think I will tell the guy I will bring a battery down but I 
> would only be willing to pay $1500 for it and see what he says. I would be 
> more willing to gamble that than $2500
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>>> Here is the  car btw
>>> 
>>> http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5498776570.html
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> That black car will be really cool when it is 110ºF in Okieland!
>> 
>> 
>> Can you get it home without the boss knowing you spent $1500 on it?
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Probably so. I think I will tell the guy I will bring a battery down but I 
would only be willing to pay $1500 for it and see what he says. I would be more 
willing to gamble that than $2500

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> Here is the  car btw
>> 
>> http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5498776570.html
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> That black car will be really cool when it is 110ºF in Okieland!
> 
> 
> Can you get it home without the boss knowing you spent $1500 on it?
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Here is the car btw

http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5498776570.html

Sent from my iPhone



That black car will be really cool when it is 110ºF in Okieland!


Can you get it home without the boss knowing you spent $1500 on it?

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Buy it, have some fun, then unload it or part it out or reuse all the 
interior on something or build a rat rod if the motor kakks.  Or it 
might actually be kinda fun to fool around with.


--R

On 3/26/16 10:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Here is the car btw

http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5498776570.html

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

You’re out of your ever lovin’ cotton pickin’ mind.

For $1500, maybe.  I certainly wouldn’t go above that considering the gremlins 
that could be lurking in the thing.

And as far as unique parts, there aren’t enough to make it worthwhile beyond 
that amount.

Dan



On Mar 26, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I stopped 
in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have always wanted one 
as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30 minutes about the car. He 
did specifically mention replacing the engine wiring harness so that is a 
somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of the guy who had to jump the car 
because it has been sitting for a while not being driven. I get there and they 
have turned the car off and now it won't start. Battery is toast. So looking at 
the car is it fairly clean, interior in pretty good shape. Engine compartment 
looks clean. I ran the carfax and it appears to have many maintenance entry's 
listed. It also had an accident reported back in 00. I can't tell it though it 
was repaired properly it appears. Clear coat on the top surfaces is starting to 
go, not real real bad get. So I told the guy I may come back in the morning 
with the battery out of the SDL. Of course he says it ru
ns great
yada yada. My concern is the check engine light does not light when key is on so bulb is 
probably out, so I can't tell if it's for a check engine light if I do go back and start 
it. As I have said I have wanted one of these as a toy to mess with. It's a 1st year car 
but on the plus it has the for 400 plus hp where as the next year they were tuned down to 
about 380. Guy wants $2500 but I bet I can get him down. Car has 150k miles. It's on the 
"hood" if that tells you anything but has not been ghettoed out or anything. So 
am I crazy and should run away or is it a crazy good deal and I would be crazy to pass?

Sent from my iPhone
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Here is the car btw

http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5498776570.html

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You’re out of your ever lovin’ cotton pickin’ mind.
> 
> For $1500, maybe.  I certainly wouldn’t go above that considering the 
> gremlins that could be lurking in the thing.
> 
> And as far as unique parts, there aren’t enough to make it worthwhile beyond 
> that amount.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I 
>> stopped in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have always 
>> wanted one as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30 minutes about 
>> the car. He did specifically mention replacing the engine wiring harness so 
>> that is a somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of the guy who had to jump 
>> the car because it has been sitting for a while not being driven. I get 
>> there and they have turned the car off and now it won't start. Battery is 
>> toast. So looking at the car is it fairly clean, interior in pretty good 
>> shape. Engine compartment looks clean. I ran the carfax and it appears to 
>> have many maintenance entry's listed. It also had an accident reported back 
>> in 00. I can't tell it though it was repaired properly it appears. Clear 
>> coat on the top surfaces is starting to go, not real real bad get. So I told 
>> the guy I may come back in the morning with the battery out of the SDL. Of 
>> course he says it ru
>> ns great
>> yada yada. My concern is the check engine light does not light when key is 
>> on so bulb is probably out, so I can't tell if it's for a check engine light 
>> if I do go back and start it. As I have said I have wanted one of these as a 
>> toy to mess with. It's a 1st year car but on the plus it has the for 400 
>> plus hp where as the next year they were tuned down to about 380. Guy wants 
>> $2500 but I bet I can get him down. Car has 150k miles. It's on the "hood" 
>> if that tells you anything but has not been ghettoed out or anything. So am 
>> I crazy and should run away or is it a crazy good deal and I would be crazy 
>> to pass?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You’re out of your ever lovin’ cotton pickin’ mind.

For $1500, maybe.  I certainly wouldn’t go above that considering the gremlins 
that could be lurking in the thing.

And as far as unique parts, there aren’t enough to make it worthwhile beyond 
that amount.

Dan


> On Mar 26, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I 
> stopped in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have always 
> wanted one as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30 minutes about 
> the car. He did specifically mention replacing the engine wiring harness so 
> that is a somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of the guy who had to jump 
> the car because it has been sitting for a while not being driven. I get there 
> and they have turned the car off and now it won't start. Battery is toast. So 
> looking at the car is it fairly clean, interior in pretty good shape. Engine 
> compartment looks clean. I ran the carfax and it appears to have many 
> maintenance entry's listed. It also had an accident reported back in 00. I 
> can't tell it though it was repaired properly it appears. Clear coat on the 
> top surfaces is starting to go, not real real bad get. So I told the guy I 
> may come back in the morning with the battery out of the SDL. Of course he 
> says it ru
> ns great
> yada yada. My concern is the check engine light does not light when key is on 
> so bulb is probably out, so I can't tell if it's for a check engine light if 
> I do go back and start it. As I have said I have wanted one of these as a toy 
> to mess with. It's a 1st year car but on the plus it has the for 400 plus hp 
> where as the next year they were tuned down to about 380. Guy wants $2500 but 
> I bet I can get him down. Car has 150k miles. It's on the "hood" if that 
> tells you anything but has not been ghettoed out or anything. So am I crazy 
> and should run away or is it a crazy good deal and I would be crazy to pass?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I don't know why you didn't get it as soon as you arrived.  What can go wrong?

"Hold my beer and watch this!"

Tell the guy you can only pay $500 and then you're going racing - 24 hours of 
lemons...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 26, 2016 9:10:57 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I
>stopped in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have
>always wanted one as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30
>minutes about the car. He did specifically mention replacing the engine
>wiring harness so that is a somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of
>the guy who had to jump the car because it has been sitting for a while
>not being driven. I get there and they have turned the car off and now
>it won't start. Battery is toast. So looking at the car is it fairly
>clean, interior in pretty good shape. Engine compartment looks clean. I
>ran the carfax and it appears to have many maintenance entry's listed.
>It also had an accident reported back in 00. I can't tell it though it
>was repaired properly it appears. Clear coat on the top surfaces is
>starting to go, not real real bad get. So I told the guy I may come
>back in the morning with the battery out of the SDL. Of course he says
>it runs great yada yada. My concern is the check engine light does not
>light when key is on so bulb is probably out, so I can't tell if it's
>for a check engine light if I do go back and start it. As I have said I
>have wanted one of these as a toy to mess with. It's a 1st year car but
>on the plus it has the for 400 plus hp where as the next year they were
>tuned down to about 380. Guy wants $2500 but I bet I can get him down.
>Car has 150k miles. It's on the "hood" if that tells you anything but
>has not been ghettoed out or anything. So am I crazy and should run
>away or is it a crazy good deal and I would be crazy to pass?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>___
>http://www.okiebenz.com
>
>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If it runs and drives and can be licensed and you can get it for $1500 and not 
a penny more it might be a fun toy. Its probably worth twice that in specialty 
parts anyway. Drive it until something expensive breaks and part it...
-Curt


  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 9:10 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Am I crazy?
   
Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I stopped 
in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have always wanted one 
as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30 minutes about the car. He 
did specifically mention replacing the engine wiring harness so that is a 
somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of the guy who had to jump the car 
because it has been sitting for a while not being driven. I get there and they 
have turned the car off and now it won't start. Battery is toast. So looking at 
the car is it fairly clean, interior in pretty good shape. Engine compartment 
looks clean. I ran the carfax and it appears to have many maintenance entry's 
listed. It also had an accident reported back in 00. I can't tell it though it 
was repaired properly it appears. Clear coat on the top surfaces is starting to 
go, not real real bad get. So I told the guy I may come back in the morning 
with the battery out of the SDL. Of course he says it runs great
  yada yada. My concern is the check engine light does not light when key is on 
so bulb is probably out, so I can't tell if it's for a check engine light if I 
do go back and start it. As I have said I have wanted one of these as a toy to 
mess with. It's a 1st year car but on the plus it has the for 400 plus hp where 
as the next year they were tuned down to about 380. Guy wants $2500 but I bet I 
can get him down. Car has 150k miles. It's on the "hood" if that tells you 
anything but has not been ghettoed out or anything. So am I crazy and should 
run away or is it a crazy good deal and I would be crazy to pass?

Sent from my iPhone
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



  
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Am I crazy?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I stopped 
in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have always wanted one 
as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30 minutes about the car. He 
did specifically mention replacing the engine wiring harness so that is a 
somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of the guy who had to jump the car 
because it has been sitting for a while not being driven. I get there and they 
have turned the car off and now it won't start. Battery is toast. So looking at 
the car is it fairly clean, interior in pretty good shape. Engine compartment 
looks clean. I ran the carfax and it appears to have many maintenance entry's 
listed. It also had an accident reported back in 00. I can't tell it though it 
was repaired properly it appears. Clear coat on the top surfaces is starting to 
go, not real real bad get. So I told the guy I may come back in the morning 
with the battery out of the SDL. Of course he says it runs great
  yada yada. My concern is the check engine light does not light when key is on 
so bulb is probably out, so I can't tell if it's for a check engine light if I 
do go back and start it. As I have said I have wanted one of these as a toy to 
mess with. It's a 1st year car but on the plus it has the for 400 plus hp where 
as the next year they were tuned down to about 380. Guy wants $2500 but I bet I 
can get him down. Car has 150k miles. It's on the "hood" if that tells you 
anything but has not been ghettoed out or anything. So am I crazy and should 
run away or is it a crazy good deal and I would be crazy to pass?

Sent from my iPhone
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com