Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
Why not? Vehicle related even if a bit OT as the poster noted to begin with. More on topic than a lot the things we tend to get into on here. Randy On 17/09/2013 8:34 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: This doesn't belong on this list! --R On 9/16/13 9:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it with my brother who has the same needs. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. Problem is I don't know where to start looking. That is, what model to look for and what to avoid. Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions? I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap. Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there... A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? Thanks, Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
Sounds like an easy task gor a good Cummins...lololol Mike On Sep 17, 2013 10:58 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: For intermittent, low-mileage use, it doesn't matter how much of a guzzler it is, so just about _any_ domestic truck will probably be the best value. If it looks attractively small, or foreign, be prepared to pay several times the outlay. For the most 240D-like experience, the Dodge with the diesel in the 1996-1998.5 is it, but those go for quite the premium. Around here, anyway. Mine, stickshift and 4wd, got 26.2MPG one day on a cross-State (and back) trip carrying a 450SL transmission. Just gotta keep the speed down a bit. Best I've ever done with the camper is 20MPG, usually more like 15, or even a bit less. (My wife managed 9, while I was napping. She was passing _everything_, uphill and into a stout headwind, probably doing 80+. I think she had it floored. Idiot...) -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
2001-2003 F150 Supercrew. Probably not for under $3K but the extra money will be worth it. Has a full back seat and 4 doors. Once you have it you will realize it is like driving a car and will use it more than you think you will. Nice to have the passenger space available. Short box but I have yet to need more and I have had mine for 7 years. I have one of the doodads that goes into the receiver hitch and provides a support behind the tailgate. I have hauled things like a sailboat mast that was 22 feet long without any problems. I have pulled boats up to a 22 foot fiberglass inboard/outboard with no problems. Mine has 282K Kil on it now and no real issues. I will never have one again that is not 4 wheel drive. 3/4 ton will give you more towing power if you really need it but will be a rougher ride and will not handle nearly as well as a 1/2 ton. Randy On 16/09/2013 8:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it with my brother who has the same needs. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. Problem is I don't know where to start looking. That is, what model to look for and what to avoid. Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions? I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap. Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there... A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? Thanks, Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
For intermittent, low-mileage use, it doesn't matter how much of a guzzler it is, so just about _any_ domestic truck will probably be the best value. If it looks attractively small, or foreign, be prepared to pay several times the outlay. For the most 240D-like experience, the Dodge with the diesel in the 1996-1998.5 is it, but those go for quite the premium. Around here, anyway. Mine, stickshift and 4wd, got 26.2MPG one day on a cross-State (and back) trip carrying a 450SL transmission. Just gotta keep the speed down a bit. Best I've ever done with the camper is 20MPG, usually more like 15, or even a bit less. (My wife managed 9, while I was napping. She was passing _everything_, uphill and into a stout headwind, probably doing 80+. I think she had it floored. Idiot...) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? 450 SELcamino? http://forum.w116.org/test-drive/w116-pickup!/ Or maybe a W124? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
Curt Raymond wrote: 2wd I presume. $3k buys almost nothing in a 4wd truck right now. That's why I have a $3000 S210 4Matic in the driveway. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
Some guy in South Africa just posted some pictures of a Finnie pickup conversion on Benzworld. Looked like a Universal wagon that got chopped. Dan On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? 450 SELcamino? http://forum.w116.org/test-drive/w116-pickup!/ Or maybe a W124? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh No affiliation etc. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
I have to question the added maintenance costs. Really? My old idi's just go on and on with minimal maint. My friends with gassers that sit a lot are always fiddling with plug wires or stale gas to get them going for an occasional mission. I just go out and give the old 6.2 a crank, let the smoke clear and off we go. I will say that is often not as easy as it sounds in the middle of the winter, that is where a gasser with efi is nice. The older Fords are well within the $3000 budget. While harder to find not rusted away the square body Chevy's are as well. Keep an eye out and you can steal a heavy diesel truck from someone looking to downsize. I got my 97 f250 Powerstroke for $2500 because it sat for 3 years and needed some work to get going. Now it is an $8000 truck up here because it has no rust and looks new. Be patient and keep a close eye on Craigslist. Just saw a one owner 2000 diesel 4wd Excursion for $2000high miles but looks nice and says drives nice. Mike On Sep 17, 2013 1:37 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
With the Ford don't you give up a lot of the fuel economy reason for having one? With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Lets not count out a Dakota either. My '96 had 222,000 miles when I got rid of it, it was big enough to haul a small car (actually it should haul a big car, we hauled a 4400# farm tractor with it) and a good size bed although not a real 8 footer... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:55:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: calhj_1d-x1zzm_zsw+0xqy1htuj-ofkwp2mss0r7gezffzn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to question the added maintenance costs. Really? My old idi's just go on and on with minimal maint. My friends with gassers that sit a lot are always fiddling with plug wires or stale gas to get them going for an occasional mission. I just go out and give the old 6.2 a crank, let the smoke clear and off we go. I will say that is often not as easy as it sounds in the middle of the winter, that is where a gasser with efi is nice. The older Fords are well within the $3000 budget. While harder to find not rusted away the square body Chevy's are as well. Keep an eye out and you can steal a heavy diesel truck from someone looking to downsize. I got my 97 f250 Powerstroke for $2500 because it sat for 3 years and needed some work to get going. Now it is an $8000 truck up here because it has no rust and looks new. Be patient and keep a close eye on Craigslist. Just saw a one owner 2000 diesel 4wd Excursion for $2000high miles but looks nice and says drives nice. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
'Used the Ford trailer with MB 123 wheel covers and three-pointed star on the tailgate today; noticed right tire pressure low and cracking with age; probably time for newer tires on it. These are probably only 10 - 12 years old. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie I rented a pickup a couple months ago to tow my 240D home. I paid around $150 for 24 hours for a Chevy extended cab v6 4wd which as Gary says really isn't that bad at all. I towed a car (carefully!) and returned the truck with them none the wiser. That was me just walking in off the street, I'm sure you could find a better deal online. Home Depot has hourly rentals which are pretty cheap if all you needed was to bring a load of lumber home... Of course Wilton has always made do with a trailer but Jamie did mention the occasional car hauling. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:49:23 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: caciok3sgtqtgupxv7fgc-n7ixehwx_hcz6chrcjwpdx_dcz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
fine, diminish he who might point out the emperor has no clothes On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Reality is that Gary doesn't know what I'm looking for! Lots of good points being made here (other than Gary's), so thanks for the input. A diesel isn't out of the question, but I'd like to avoid having to a steep learning curve with something completely new. A gas 350, or example, is something that will be very easy to manage without much new to learn. Ideally I get something that I just do a major service on, maybe brakes or some suspension, and then have it is be fairly trouble free for a while. Jaime On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+= aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
I have a 2001 F-250. Got it new, love it. Diesel was 4K$ more at the time, and it just wasn't worth it, even though fuel was cheaper then. If you tow all the time for a living, then a diesel is a good thing. If you're buying a utility truck to go to the lake, pick up lawn stuff, and in general haul stuff around but not for a living, then gas is great. Now that the cost of diesel is so far north of gas, I am convinced my lil ole F-250 gasser was a good choice. Now I got 66K miles on it. It will still be here when the crematorium is messing with me (c: From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Reality is that Gary doesn't know what I'm looking for! Lots of good points being made here (other than Gary's), so thanks for the input. A diesel isn't out of the question, but I'd like to avoid having to a steep learning curve with something completely new. A gas 350, or example, is something that will be very easy to manage without much new to learn. Ideally I get something that I just do a major service on, maybe brakes or some suspension, and then have it is be fairly trouble free for a while. Jaime On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Reality is that Gary doesn't know what I'm looking for! Lots of good points being made here (other than Gary's), so thanks for the input. A diesel isn't out of the question, but I'd like to avoid having to a steep learning curve with something completely new. A gas 350, or example, is something that will be very easy to manage without much new to learn. Ideally I get something that I just do a major service on, maybe brakes or some suspension, and then have it is be fairly trouble free for a while. Jaime On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
I rented a pickup a couple months ago to tow my 240D home. I paid around $150 for 24 hours for a Chevy extended cab v6 4wd which as Gary says really isn't that bad at all. I towed a car (carefully!) and returned the truck with them none the wiser. That was me just walking in off the street, I'm sure you could find a better deal online. Home Depot has hourly rentals which are pretty cheap if all you needed was to bring a load of lumber home... Of course Wilton has always made do with a trailer but Jamie did mention the occasional car hauling. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:49:23 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: caciok3sgtqtgupxv7fgc-n7ixehwx_hcz6chrcjwpdx_dcz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
So far north of gas? I got my aunt with this the other day, they have a diesel Passat and a gasser Volvo. We talked it out and if you aim low on the Passat and say 40mpg and say 30mpg on the Volvo which is probably slightly optimistic that gives the Passat a 33% advantage right? If gas is $3.65 and diesel is $4 (and thats a bad spread, its not as bad here) thats 35 cents difference or around 9%. So my contention is that you spend an extra 9 cents to save 33. You don't have to hit me twice with a stick... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 1379456364.48504.yahoomail...@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have a 2001 F-250. ?Got it new, love it. ?Diesel was 4K$ more at the time, and it just wasn't worth it, even though fuel was cheaper then. ?If you tow all the time for a living, then a diesel is a good thing. ?If you're buying a utility truck to go to the lake, pick up lawn stuff, and in general haul stuff around but not for a living, then gas is great. ?Now that the cost of diesel is so far north of gas, I am convinced my lil ole F-250 gasser was a good choice. Now I got 66K miles on it. ?It will still be here when the crematorium is messing with me (c: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
My 6.2 has just as much power as a 350 gasser and gets better mpg. It hauls my crewcab with 10k pound trailer and a fullsize pickup just fine. A 350 would be working hard and getting worse mpg. Yeah, you sort of give up economy. Until you look at how much fuel a gasser that will pull like a Powerstroke burns when working hard. Then it seems like a pretty good trade. Mike On Sep 17, 2013 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: With the Ford don't you give up a lot of the fuel economy reason for having one? With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Lets not count out a Dakota either. My '96 had 222,000 miles when I got rid of it, it was big enough to haul a small car (actually it should haul a big car, we hauled a 4400# farm tractor with it) and a good size bed although not a real 8 footer... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:55:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: calhj_1d-x1zzm_zsw+0xqy1htuj-ofkwp2mss0r7gezffzn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to question the added maintenance costs. Really? My old idi's just go on and on with minimal maint. My friends with gassers that sit a lot are always fiddling with plug wires or stale gas to get them going for an occasional mission. I just go out and give the old 6.2 a crank, let the smoke clear and off we go. I will say that is often not as easy as it sounds in the middle of the winter, that is where a gasser with efi is nice. The older Fords are well within the $3000 budget. While harder to find not rusted away the square body Chevy's are as well. Keep an eye out and you can steal a heavy diesel truck from someone looking to downsize. I got my 97 f250 Powerstroke for $2500 because it sat for 3 years and needed some work to get going. Now it is an $8000 truck up here because it has no rust and looks new. Be patient and keep a close eye on Craigslist. Just saw a one owner 2000 diesel 4wd Excursion for $2000high miles but looks nice and says drives nice. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html How many miles has it been since the intake was hooked up to a functioning air filter? My Horizon had a KN in it from about 30k mi. It was running OK when I parked it at 232k mi, but by the time it hit 150k (M1 oil changed every 7500 miles) it no longer had enough compression to park it on a boat ramp without the parking brake. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: My 6.2 has just as much power as a 350 gasser and gets better mpg. It hauls my crewcab with 10k pound trailer and a fullsize pickup just fine. A 350 would be working hard and getting worse mpg. Yeah, you sort of give up economy. Until you look at how much fuel a gasser that will pull like a Powerstroke burns when working hard. Then it seems like a pretty good trade. Mike On Sep 17, 2013 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: With the Ford don't you give up a lot of the fuel economy reason for having one? With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Lets not count out a Dakota either. My '96 had 222,000 miles when I got rid of it, it was big enough to haul a small car (actually it should haul a big car, we hauled a 4400# farm tractor with it) and a good size bed although not a real 8 footer... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:55:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: calhj_1d-x1zzm_zsw+0xqy1htuj-ofkwp2mss0r7gezffzn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to question the added maintenance costs. Really? My old idi's just go on and on with minimal maint. My friends with gassers that sit a lot are always fiddling with plug wires or stale gas to get them going for an occasional mission. I just go out and give the old 6.2 a crank, let the smoke clear and off we go. I will say that is often not as easy as it sounds in the middle of the winter, that is where a gasser with efi is nice. The older Fords are well within the $3000 budget. While harder to find not rusted away the square body Chevy's are as well. Keep an eye out and you can steal a heavy diesel truck from someone looking to downsize. I got my 97 f250 Powerstroke for $2500 because it sat for 3 years and needed some work to get going. Now it is an $8000 truck up here because it has no rust and looks new. Be patient and keep a close eye on Craigslist. Just saw a one owner 2000 diesel 4wd Excursion for $2000high miles but looks nice and says drives nice. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
True, but we're talking about Ford F-250's. There is not a significant mileage difference between the gas and the diesel versions. Mine gets 14 towing the boat, 15 on the road. A diesel gets 20. I was going to be out $4K up front. Maintenance on an F-250 Diesel is very expensive. At the 2001 price, I was just not interested in spending the extra 4K$. Plus I didn't want the cost of the huge air filter or the dual big batteries. So right now, using 3.45 for gas, 3.90 for diesel, pretty accurate where I am, and 66K miles, and 15 mpg for gas and 20 mpg for diesel, I get that I would have spent $2310 less in fuel now than I have. However, I had to spend 4K$ for the ability to save that money. I realize that it's not an amazing amount of money I'm saving 12 years later, but I've had absolutely no issues with the truck, gas works fine, I've pulled a 300TD from Atlanta to here, etc etc. Now if you want to look at little cars, I am thinking about either a new Jetta TDI or a new Prius. I am back to thinking about gas vs diesel, and your numbers have more validity. I've rented both cars, and find they are very similiar as far as utility is concerned. Now I have to make the decision about gas and diesel again. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie So far north of gas? I got my aunt with this the other day, they have a diesel Passat and a gasser Volvo. We talked it out and if you aim low on the Passat and say 40mpg and say 30mpg on the Volvo which is probably slightly optimistic that gives the Passat a 33% advantage right? If gas is $3.65 and diesel is $4 (and thats a bad spread, its not as bad here) thats 35 cents difference or around 9%. So my contention is that you spend an extra 9 cents to save 33. You don't have to hit me twice with a stick... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 1379456364.48504.yahoomail...@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have a 2001 F-250. ?Got it new, love it. ?Diesel was 4K$ more at the time, and it just wasn't worth it, even though fuel was cheaper then. ?If you tow all the time for a living, then a diesel is a good thing. ?If you're buying a utility truck to go to the lake, pick up lawn stuff, and in general haul stuff around but not for a living, then gas is great. ?Now that the cost of diesel is so far north of gas, I am convinced my lil ole F-250 gasser was a good choice. Now I got 66K miles on it. ?It will still be here when the crematorium is messing with me (c: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: My 6.2 has just as much power as a 350 gasser and gets better mpg. It hauls my crewcab with 10k pound trailer and a fullsize pickup just fine. A 350 would be working hard and getting worse mpg. Yeah, you sort of give up economy. Until you look at how much fuel a gasser that will pull like a Powerstroke burns when working hard. Then it seems like a pretty good trade. Mike On Sep 17, 2013 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: With the Ford don't you give up a lot of the fuel economy reason for having one? With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Lets not count out a Dakota either. My '96 had 222,000 miles when I got rid of it, it was big enough to haul a small car (actually it should haul a big car, we hauled a 4400# farm tractor with it) and a good size bed although not a real 8 footer... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:55:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: calhj_1d-x1zzm_zsw+0xqy1htuj-ofkwp2mss0r7gezffzn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to question the added maintenance costs. Really? My old idi's just go on and on with minimal maint. My friends with gassers that sit a lot are always fiddling with plug wires or stale gas to get them going for an occasional mission. I just go out and give the old 6.2 a crank, let the smoke clear and off we go. I will say that is often not as easy as it sounds in the middle of the winter, that is where a gasser with efi is nice. The older Fords are well within the $3000 budget. While harder to find not rusted away the square body Chevy's are as well. Keep an eye out and you can steal a heavy diesel truck from someone looking to downsize. I got my 97 f250 Powerstroke for $2500 because it sat for 3 years and needed some work to get going. Now it is an $8000 truck up here because it has no rust and looks new. Be patient and keep a close eye on Craigslist. Just saw a one owner 2000 diesel 4wd Excursion for $2000high miles but looks nice and says drives nice. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:51:21 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html 1994 Chevy Silverado 1500 with Extended Cab, 8ft Bed w/Bedliner, All power options, 5.7L V8 with Automatic Trans, A/C, KN Intake Tune Kit, Lots of New Parts. This truck is in great shape: No Rust, No Accidents (Clear Title) with 140K Miles (Highway) $2900 OBO. No Texting, Please Call: 862 823 1984 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html 1972 Chevy C10. 350 Crate engine with less than 20k. 3spd manual transmission. Good clutch. 12 bolt rear. Dual chrome exhaust stacks! Runs GREAT! Needs cosmetics. Truck was in PA during Sandy. Easy makeover or great shop truck or farm truck! $2450 or best cash offer. Call or text Joe @ 908-216-4565 Thanks for looking! Why would the 1994 Silverado with Extended Cab be more realistic? Note the presence of KN Intake Tune Kit. That could mean one of the it doesn't filter very much KN filters, which would imply quite worn rings like running without an air filter gives. The 1972 has a manual transmission, which would be my choice. In addition, it has 20 kmi on a crate engine. Of course, the air filter housing in the last picture brings up questions, though it's not there in the second picture. The only cosmetic things I see are the tailgate (which a rattle can of spray paint would take care of) and overspray on the inside door trim on the driver's door. Craig Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
Hahahahahahahahahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? 450 SELcamino? http://forum.w116.org/test-drive/w116-pickup!/ Or maybe a W124? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Get rid of the stacks and the 72 is a much better investment. Can't get easier to work on. Nowhere near as comfortable or efficient but the coolness factor makes up for that. Mike On Sep 17, 2013 7:52 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:51:21 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html 1994 Chevy Silverado 1500 with Extended Cab, 8ft Bed w/Bedliner, All power options, 5.7L V8 with Automatic Trans, A/C, KN Intake Tune Kit, Lots of New Parts. This truck is in great shape: No Rust, No Accidents (Clear Title) with 140K Miles (Highway) $2900 OBO. No Texting, Please Call: 862 823 1984 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html 1972 Chevy C10. 350 Crate engine with less than 20k. 3spd manual transmission. Good clutch. 12 bolt rear. Dual chrome exhaust stacks! Runs GREAT! Needs cosmetics. Truck was in PA during Sandy. Easy makeover or great shop truck or farm truck! $2450 or best cash offer. Call or text Joe @ 908-216-4565 Thanks for looking! Why would the 1994 Silverado with Extended Cab be more realistic? Note the presence of KN Intake Tune Kit. That could mean one of the it doesn't filter very much KN filters, which would imply quite worn rings like running without an air filter gives. The 1972 has a manual transmission, which would be my choice. In addition, it has 20 kmi on a crate engine. Of course, the air filter housing in the last picture brings up questions, though it's not there in the second picture. The only cosmetic things I see are the tailgate (which a rattle can of spray paint would take care of) and overspray on the inside door trim on the driver's door. Craig Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Jaime is just trying to be more like me. First he moves to the country (I think), then he needs a lawn tractor. Now he wants a pickup. Next thing you know he will have 80 junk cars in his back yard. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
If I were in your boat a 350 Chevy is exactly what I would get. That suburban toad had for a long time then I had travelled all over the country hauling cars, it had about 260k and did not use a drop of oil. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Reality is that Gary doesn't know what I'm looking for! Lots of good points being made here (other than Gary's), so thanks for the input. A diesel isn't out of the question, but I'd like to avoid having to a steep learning curve with something completely new. A gas 350, or example, is something that will be very easy to manage without much new to learn. Ideally I get something that I just do a major service on, maybe brakes or some suspension, and then have it is be fairly trouble free for a while. Jaime On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Yep there you go, try to talk then down to about 2500 though. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: My 6.2 has just as much power as a 350 gasser and gets better mpg. It hauls my crewcab with 10k pound trailer and a fullsize pickup just fine. A 350 would be working hard and getting worse mpg. Yeah, you sort of give up economy. Until you look at how much fuel a gasser that will pull like a Powerstroke burns when working hard. Then it seems like a pretty good trade. Mike On Sep 17, 2013 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: With the Ford don't you give up a lot of the fuel economy reason for having one? With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Lets not count out a Dakota either. My '96 had 222,000 miles when I got rid of it, it was big enough to haul a small car (actually it should haul a big car, we hauled a 4400# farm tractor with it) and a good size bed although not a real 8 footer... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:55:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: calhj_1d-x1zzm_zsw+0xqy1htuj-ofkwp2mss0r7gezffzn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to question the added maintenance costs. Really? My old idi's just go on and on with minimal maint. My friends with gassers that sit a lot are always fiddling with plug wires or stale gas to get them going for an occasional mission. I just go out and give the old 6.2 a crank, let the smoke clear and off we go. I will say that is often not as easy as it sounds in the middle of the winter, that is where a gasser with efi is nice. The older Fords are well within the $3000 budget. While harder to find not rusted away the square body Chevy's are as well. Keep an eye out and you can steal a heavy diesel truck from someone looking to downsize. I got my 97 f250 Powerstroke for $2500 because it sat for 3 years and needed some work to get going. Now it is an $8000 truck up here because it has no rust and looks new. Be patient and keep a close eye on Craigslist. Just saw a one owner 2000 diesel 4wd Excursion for $2000high miles but looks nice and says drives nice. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
Diesel is cheaper here, believe it or not, at $3.89. Andrew in D.C. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: True, but we're talking about Ford F-250's. There is not a significant mileage difference between the gas and the diesel versions. Mine gets 14 towing the boat, 15 on the road. A diesel gets 20. I was going to be out $4K up front. Maintenance on an F-250 Diesel is very expensive. At the 2001 price, I was just not interested in spending the extra 4K$. Plus I didn't want the cost of the huge air filter or the dual big batteries. So right now, using 3.45 for gas, 3.90 for diesel, pretty accurate where I am, and 66K miles, and 15 mpg for gas and 20 mpg for diesel, I get that I would have spent $2310 less in fuel now than I have. However, I had to spend 4K$ for the ability to save that money. I realize that it's not an amazing amount of money I'm saving 12 years later, but I've had absolutely no issues with the truck, gas works fine, I've pulled a 300TD from Atlanta to here, etc etc. Now if you want to look at little cars, I am thinking about either a new Jetta TDI or a new Prius. I am back to thinking about gas vs diesel, and your numbers have more validity. I've rented both cars, and find they are very similiar as far as utility is concerned. Now I have to make the decision about gas and diesel again. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie So far north of gas? I got my aunt with this the other day, they have a diesel Passat and a gasser Volvo. We talked it out and if you aim low on the Passat and say 40mpg and say 30mpg on the Volvo which is probably slightly optimistic that gives the Passat a 33% advantage right? If gas is $3.65 and diesel is $4 (and thats a bad spread, its not as bad here) thats 35 cents difference or around 9%. So my contention is that you spend an extra 9 cents to save 33. You don't have to hit me twice with a stick... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 1379456364.48504.yahoomail...@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have a 2001 F-250. ?Got it new, love it. ?Diesel was 4K$ more at the time, and it just wasn't worth it, even though fuel was cheaper then. ?If you tow all the time for a living, then a diesel is a good thing. ?If you're buying a utility truck to go to the lake, pick up lawn stuff, and in general haul stuff around but not for a living, then gas is great. ?Now that the cost of diesel is so far north of gas, I am convinced my lil ole F-250 gasser was a good choice. Now I got 66K miles on it. ?It will still be here when the crematorium is messing with me (c: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
it's time for you to know this. jaime used to confide in me that he wanted to be you On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Jaime is just trying to be more like me. First he moves to the country (I think), then he needs a lawn tractor. Now he wants a pickup. Next thing you know he will have 80 junk cars in his back yard. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He could whack the back off of a big V-8 Mercedes and mount a pickup body on it. Continental Imports in Gainesville, Florida did one that way. It looked pretty nice. I seem to remember Steve or Walter saying they had to reinforce the unibody, however. Gerry From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Hahahahahahahahahahaha Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? 450 SELcamino? http://forum.w116.org/test-drive/w116-pickup!/ Or maybe a W124? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3222/6174 - Release Date: 09/17/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If he's living in the country he sure don't need no import truck. Nothing says country like a Chevy 350. I like the 72 myself without the stacks. Just dual it out by the bumper. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's time for you to know this. jaime used to confide in me that he wanted to be you On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Jaime is just trying to be more like me. First he moves to the country (I think), then he needs a lawn tractor. Now he wants a pickup. Next thing you know he will have 80 junk cars in his back yard. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+= aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
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Hahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's time for you to know this. jaime used to confide in me that he wanted to be you On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Jaime is just trying to be more like me. First he moves to the country (I think), then he needs a lawn tractor. Now he wants a pickup. Next thing you know he will have 80 junk cars in his back yard. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My second favorite Chevy body style. I do hate stacks on a pickup but they'd be easy enough to remove. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:49:32 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CACY-bALV=4w8vp4omknj8f9wbu4tlkwrz0ya6zjx8ktu4qa...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Local spread on fuel is much tighter. Diesel is normally a significant premium. not for this past summer. Diesel is running on par with 89 octane. Normal price is at least $0.13 more than 93 octane clay On Sep 17, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: So far north of gas? I got my aunt with this the other day, they have a diesel Passat and a gasser Volvo. We talked it out and if you aim low on the Passat and say 40mpg and say 30mpg on the Volvo which is probably slightly optimistic that gives the Passat a 33% advantage right? If gas is $3.65 and diesel is $4 (and thats a bad spread, its not as bad here) thats 35 cents difference or around 9%. So my contention is that you spend an extra 9 cents to save 33. You don't have to hit me twice with a stick... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 1379456364.48504.yahoomail...@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have a 2001 F-250. ?Got it new, love it. ?Diesel was 4K$ more at the time, and it just wasn't worth it, even though fuel was cheaper then. ?If you tow all the time for a living, then a diesel is a good thing. ?If you're buying a utility truck to go to the lake, pick up lawn stuff, and in general haul stuff around but not for a living, then gas is great. ?Now that the cost of diesel is so far north of gas, I am convinced my lil ole F-250 gasser was a good choice. Now I got 66K miles on it. ?It will still be here when the crematorium is messing with me (c: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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For me personally, nothing toes like a diesel! We've had gas pick ups and gas motor homes, but the diesel pickups don't have to work so hard and shift down and rev so high to make it up hills. Our 2012 ram Cummins pickup had no issues when loaded down and towing are nearly 6000 pound boat and trailer from Colorado to Oregon. Again, there's nothing like a diesel! Kevin back in Oregon Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: My second favorite Chevy body style. I do hate stacks on a pickup but they'd be easy enough to remove. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:49:32 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CACY-bALV=4w8vp4omknj8f9wbu4tlkwrz0ya6zjx8ktu4qa...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Truck
I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it with my brother who has the same needs. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. Problem is I don't know where to start looking. That is, what model to look for and what to avoid. Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions? I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap. Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there... A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? Thanks, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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F-250. A 1/2 ton truck is no better than a Crown Vic with a frame (non-unibody) in terms of towing, but not obviously in terms of cargo capability. YMMV Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:01 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Truck I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it with my brother who has the same needs. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. Problem is I don't know where to start looking. That is, what model to look for and what to avoid. Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions? I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap. Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there... A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? Thanks, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
The small 4-banger import trucks from the early 90's or earlier are woefully underpowered for any kind of towing. If you want to lay a sheet of plywood down flat in the bed or tow a car, get a Chevy 1/2 ton long bed with a V-8. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: F-250. A 1/2 ton truck is no better than a Crown Vic with a frame (non-unibody) in terms of towing, but not obviously in terms of cargo capability. YMMV Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:01 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Truck I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it with my brother who has the same needs. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. Problem is I don't know where to start looking. That is, what model to look for and what to avoid. Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions? I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap. Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there... A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? Thanks, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sep 16, 2013 6:31 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: , get a Chevy 1/2 ton long bed with a V-8. Seconded. I have a 1/2-ton Suburban only because I occasionally need the 5 back seats. Usually they are all folded up, which gives me an enclosed, carpeted eight-foot bed. Tows a U-haul car trailer with a W126 on it like there's nothing there. It gets about 18 mpg highway, a 2wd single-cab pickup should do significantly better. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
Get something with a Chevy 350, it's cheap, reliable as a 240d and easy to work on. The problem is the obambo cash for clunkers plan to a ton of these type of trucks off the market and scrapped them Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it with my brother who has the same needs. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. Problem is I don't know where to start looking. That is, what model to look for and what to avoid. Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions? I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap. Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there... A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? Thanks, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
2wd I presume. $3k buys almost nothing in a 4wd truck right now. Forget Toyota, not that long ago there was a late '90s T100 nearby, 4wd, extended cab, not a bad looking truck for the age, some rust but not a ton, 265,000 miles on the original everything, they wanted (and got I later heard) $6800. Thats insane, I can't imagine anything so good about the truck it'd be worth that. Later Toyota (say 2000 to 2009) have horrifying frame rot issues. My wife's uncle was actually told You can't leave here with it one time. Toyota did give him a sweet deal on a new truck but I'd bet you'd need to be the original owner to get that. I'd say you look for the big 3, full size will frighteningly be cheaper than a smaller truck probably. Don't be afraid of a 1ton, often in my experience they're the boss's truck and not beat so bad. In a 2wd a v6 isn't too bad where its pretty slugworthy in a 4wd. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:01:26 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Truck Message-ID: cacy-ba+xgrqt+ejwvzufqhseq79d5rgssrdkdn0on+vbqzk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it with my brother who has the same needs. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. Problem is I don't know where to start looking. That is, what model to look for and what to avoid. Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions? I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap. Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there... A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? Thanks, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck
the first vehicle i ever drove was an early 60s jeep pickup without power steering. i'd rpobably get something like that! On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it with my brother who has the same needs. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. Problem is I don't know where to start looking. That is, what model to look for and what to avoid. Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions? I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap. Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there... A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer. Anyone have any advice? Thanks, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller
The nicer ones sense inertia and apply the trailer brakes accordingly. Mike On Mar 11, 2012 8:24 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: The brake controller must apply a force proportional to how hard you are braking, not how long you've been holding the brake pedal down. Otherwise you're getting light brake force in a panic stop (dangerous) and heavy braking while trying to inch forward slowly (highly annoying). Ten years ago, that pretty much meant Jordan or the Tekonsha Prodigy. Now there are many choices. I say get the one that takes up the least space under the dash and/or is easiest to adjust when you change trailers. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller
It probably goes without saying but I think one must also make sure that the unit is compatible with ABS if the truck is so equipped. Randy On 12/03/2012 8:51 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: The nicer ones sense inertia and apply the trailer brakes accordingly. Mike On Mar 11, 2012 8:24 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: The brake controller must apply a force proportional to how hard you are braking, not how long you've been holding the brake pedal down. Otherwise you're getting light brake force in a panic stop (dangerous) and heavy braking while trying to inch forward slowly (highly annoying). Ten years ago, that pretty much meant Jordan or the Tekonsha Prodigy. Now there are many choices. I say get the one that takes up the least space under the dash and/or is easiest to adjust when you change trailers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller
It looks like the controllers have an accelerometer in them that senses the vehicle stop rate, then applies the trailer brakes to match that. I don't think they have ABS for the trailers, unless the controller is sensitive enough to match its brake application to the ABS rate -- which is doubtful. --R On 3/12/12 5:42 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: It probably goes without saying but I think one must also make sure that the unit is compatible with ABS if the truck is so equipped. Randy On 12/03/2012 8:51 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: The nicer ones sense inertia and apply the trailer brakes accordingly. Mike On Mar 11, 2012 8:24 PM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote: The brake controller must apply a force proportional to how hard you are braking, not how long you've been holding the brake pedal down. Otherwise you're getting light brake force in a panic stop (dangerous) and heavy braking while trying to inch forward slowly (highly annoying). Ten years ago, that pretty much meant Jordan or the Tekonsha Prodigy. Now there are many choices. I say get the one that takes up the least space under the dash and/or is easiest to adjust when you change trailers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Truck brake controller
We went over this some time ago, but I want to order one of these things, and if anyone has a suggestion on which would be best... http://www.etrailer.com/bc-1996_Chevrolet_C%2FK+Series+Pickup.htm Going on my 96 Chevy pickup, I have a trailer with electric brakes. Truck currently wired for 4-plug trailer lights, I will get this to go with the controller http://www.etrailer.com/p-ETBC7.html I also need to get the controller to go in my Suburban, I believe it is already wired for the electric brakes (has the round connector) and just needs a controller plugged in http://www.etrailer.com/bc-2000_Chevrolet_Suburban.htm I think these are the same units, just have the plug adapter and not all the install wiring the truck needs. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller
The brake controller must apply a force proportional to how hard you are braking, not how long you've been holding the brake pedal down. Otherwise you're getting light brake force in a panic stop (dangerous) and heavy braking while trying to inch forward slowly (highly annoying). Ten years ago, that pretty much meant Jordan or the Tekonsha Prodigy. Now there are many choices. I say get the one that takes up the least space under the dash and/or is easiest to adjust when you change trailers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller
Rich Thomas wrote: We went over this some time ago, but I want to order one of these things, and if anyone has a suggestion on which would be best... http://www.etrailer.com/bc-1996_Chevrolet_C%2FK+Series+Pickup.htm What sort of trailer? How many braking axles? I have a flatbed that the weight varies _greatly_ depending on load, so I like easy and repeatible adjustment. If the weight isn't going to change much, that may be much less of a factor. I'm rather partial to the Tekonsha, so I would be reluctant to spend my money on another brand. I happen to also like the ability to manually apply the trailer brakes. A don't see much value in a numerical display - at least if have never felt like I was missing anything without it. The Tekonsha 39523 looks good. Or the 39510, but I don't see how gain is adjusted. Or maybe the TK90160. But if your trailering tasks are different than mine, those may not be the best choice for you. Going on my 96 Chevy pickup, I have a trailer with electric brakes. Truck currently wired for 4-plug trailer lights, I will get this to go with the controller http://www.etrailer.com/p-ETBC7.html I am rather opposed do Quick splice wiring connectors in exposed locations - like under the back bumper of a car! They are _not_ weather-proof. Crimp butt splices are a better, but I don't use those unless I fill them with grease first. Then they seem to hold up okay. I also need to get the controller to go in my Suburban, I believe it is already wired for the electric brakes (has the round connector) and just needs a controller plugged in http://www.etrailer.com/bc-2000_Chevrolet_Suburban.htm I think these are the same units, just have the plug adapter and not all the install wiring the truck needs. I use one controller for two vehicles since I have only one trailer with brakes. I just move it as needed. A quick-connect feature can make that easier. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller
Thanks for the info. Trailer is a 5klb dual axle (actually the axles are rated for 7500lb but they only put a 5klb hitch on it), not sure if both axles have brakes, I can look. The Tekonshas look like decent units, I'll get one (or maybe 2) of them. I can do a nice install on the truck with heat shrink tubing, tape, etc. I have a bunch of connectors of various types. --R On 3/11/12 8:25 PM, Fmiser wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: We went over this some time ago, but I want to order one of these things, and if anyone has a suggestion on which would be best... http://www.etrailer.com/bc-1996_Chevrolet_C%2FK+Series+Pickup.htm What sort of trailer? How many braking axles? I have a flatbed that the weight varies _greatly_ depending on load, so I like easy and repeatible adjustment. If the weight isn't going to change much, that may be much less of a factor. I'm rather partial to the Tekonsha, so I would be reluctant to spend my money on another brand. I happen to also like the ability to manually apply the trailer brakes. A don't see much value in a numerical display - at least if have never felt like I was missing anything without it. The Tekonsha 39523 looks good. Or the 39510, but I don't see how gain is adjusted. Or maybe the TK90160. But if your trailering tasks are different than mine, those may not be the best choice for you. Going on my 96 Chevy pickup, I have a trailer with electric brakes. Truck currently wired for 4-plug trailer lights, I will get this to go with the controller http://www.etrailer.com/p-ETBC7.html I am rather opposed do Quick splice wiring connectors in exposed locations - like under the back bumper of a car! They are _not_ weather-proof. Crimp butt splices are a better, but I don't use those unless I fill them with grease first. Then they seem to hold up okay. I also need to get the controller to go in my Suburban, I believe it is already wired for the electric brakes (has the round connector) and just needs a controller plugged in http://www.etrailer.com/bc-2000_Chevrolet_Suburban.htm I think these are the same units, just have the plug adapter and not all the install wiring the truck needs. I use one controller for two vehicles since I have only one trailer with brakes. I just move it as needed. A quick-connect feature can make that easier. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Truck head gasket
I think the head gasket on my truck (96 Shivvalay 305 [I think that is what it is, the smaller set up on the 350, not that it really matters] engine) has gone bad -- it is barfing coolant out the back, best I can tell it is coming out the back of the head/block joint. Looks like I am going to have to do surgery on it soon. Never done this sort of thing before, my main concern is taking off the head bolts. I assume they do not come out too easily? Do I need to use a regular socket wrench and just tug on them, or will an air impact wrench be better to get them out? Should I get new bolts or go with studs when putting it back together? Vortec engine, deathcool in it originally though I have lately been using the universal stuff, about 80k miles. Any knowledge appreciated. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck head gasket
Should not pose any major problems. Take it apart and put it back together. Not much out there simpler than a basic small block Chevy. Should not need impact wrench to remove head bolts. Probably best to have 1/2 drive socket and breaker bar to get them loose. Will need a torque wrench to tighten them back up correctly. Hope the block surface and head are ok where the blown gasket is. Might have to have some resurfacing if not. Not sure if the head bolts are reusable. Many are. Some are not. Should be able to find out when you get the gaskets. Parts people should be able to tell you and sell you new bolts if need be. Should not be very expensive. Studs are supposed to be better but sort of overkill on a basic not hot rodded engine. Get a manual and read through it if you are not familiar with resetting the valves. I am not all that familiar with the newer Vortec engines. The last one I had apart was a 1986 350. On it, one just got the adjustment close and then fired it up and loosened the adjuster off until it rattled, then tightened until it stopped rattling and then 3/4 turn further if I recall. T'other way is to turn the push rods with fingers until the play is gone and then tighten the additional 3/4 turn. Have to have timing marks set and do certain cylinders which is why I said to get a manual and read up on how to do it. Good time to change valve seals etc. Timing chain?? At 80K a tosss up? Randy On 23/03/2011 9:47 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I think the head gasket on my truck (96 Shivvalay 305 [I think that is what it is, the smaller set up on the 350, not that it really matters] engine) has gone bad -- it is barfing coolant out the back, best I can tell it is coming out the back of the head/block joint. Looks like I am going to have to do surgery on it soon. Never done this sort of thing before, my main concern is taking off the head bolts. I assume they do not come out too easily? Do I need to use a regular socket wrench and just tug on them, or will an air impact wrench be better to get them out? Should I get new bolts or go with studs when putting it back together? Vortec engine, deathcool in it originally though I have lately been using the universal stuff, about 80k miles. Any knowledge appreciated. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck head gasket
Thanks, I do have some books on rebuilding chebbie small blocks, I will have to refresh on the subject. Looks like the biggest PITA aspect will be getting the intake and all that junk off the top first. --R On 3/23/2011 11:14 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: Should not pose any major problems. Take it apart and put it back together. Not much out there simpler than a basic small block Chevy. Should not need impact wrench to remove head bolts. Probably best to have 1/2 drive socket and breaker bar to get them loose. Will need a torque wrench to tighten them back up correctly. Hope the block surface and head are ok where the blown gasket is. Might have to have some resurfacing if not. Not sure if the head bolts are reusable. Many are. Some are not. Should be able to find out when you get the gaskets. Parts people should be able to tell you and sell you new bolts if need be. Should not be very expensive. Studs are supposed to be better but sort of overkill on a basic not hot rodded engine. Get a manual and read through it if you are not familiar with resetting the valves. I am not all that familiar with the newer Vortec engines. The last one I had apart was a 1986 350. On it, one just got the adjustment close and then fired it up and loosened the adjuster off until it rattled, then tightened until it stopped rattling and then 3/4 turn further if I recall. T'other way is to turn the push rods with fingers until the play is gone and then tighten the additional 3/4 turn. Have to have timing marks set and do certain cylinders which is why I said to get a manual and read up on how to do it. Good time to change valve seals etc. Timing chain?? At 80K a tosss up? Randy On 23/03/2011 9:47 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I think the head gasket on my truck (96 Shivvalay 305 [I think that is what it is, the smaller set up on the 350, not that it really matters] engine) has gone bad -- it is barfing coolant out the back, best I can tell it is coming out the back of the head/block joint. Looks like I am going to have to do surgery on it soon. Never done this sort of thing before, my main concern is taking off the head bolts. I assume they do not come out too easily? Do I need to use a regular socket wrench and just tug on them, or will an air impact wrench be better to get them out? Should I get new bolts or go with studs when putting it back together? Vortec engine, deathcool in it originally though I have lately been using the universal stuff, about 80k miles. Any knowledge appreciated. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck head gasket
Yes, masking tape labels and lots of digital camera photos are a good idea. So many hoses and wires these days. Hope none of that proves to be too brittle. The good thing is that modern fuel injected engines do not seem to wear like the old ones did. Better materials, better machining, better oils, less fuel washing down the cylinders until the choke opened, better fuel control with injection?? Who knows exactly, but the gist is that they do not seem to wear out. Final suggestion that I thought about previously but forgot to write - be careful with the headgaskets. Make sure that you have the right ones and that you have them on the right way. Don't know if it is possible to mix them up on a Chevy small block but know that with some engines, you can put them on backwards or get the wrong ones and block cooling passages that then cause overheating that is difficult to diagnose until you tear it down again. Best to avoid that sort of self induced pain. Randy On 23/03/2011 11:40 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Thanks, I do have some books on rebuilding chebbie small blocks, I will have to refresh on the subject. Looks like the biggest PITA aspect will be getting the intake and all that junk off the top first. --R On 3/23/2011 11:14 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: Should not pose any major problems. Take it apart and put it back together. Not much out there simpler than a basic small block Chevy. Should not need impact wrench to remove head bolts. Probably best to have 1/2 drive socket and breaker bar to get them loose. Will need a torque wrench to tighten them back up correctly. Hope the block surface and head are ok where the blown gasket is. Might have to have some resurfacing if not. Not sure if the head bolts are reusable. Many are. Some are not. Should be able to find out when you get the gaskets. Parts people should be able to tell you and sell you new bolts if need be. Should not be very expensive. Studs are supposed to be better but sort of overkill on a basic not hot rodded engine. Get a manual and read through it if you are not familiar with resetting the valves. I am not all that familiar with the newer Vortec engines. The last one I had apart was a 1986 350. On it, one just got the adjustment close and then fired it up and loosened the adjuster off until it rattled, then tightened until it stopped rattling and then 3/4 turn further if I recall. T'other way is to turn the push rods with fingers until the play is gone and then tighten the additional 3/4 turn. Have to have timing marks set and do certain cylinders which is why I said to get a manual and read up on how to do it. Good time to change valve seals etc. Timing chain?? At 80K a tosss up? Randy On 23/03/2011 9:47 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I think the head gasket on my truck (96 Shivvalay 305 [I think that is what it is, the smaller set up on the 350, not that it really matters] engine) has gone bad -- it is barfing coolant out the back, best I can tell it is coming out the back of the head/block joint. Looks like I am going to have to do surgery on it soon. Never done this sort of thing before, my main concern is taking off the head bolts. I assume they do not come out too easily? Do I need to use a regular socket wrench and just tug on them, or will an air impact wrench be better to get them out? Should I get new bolts or go with studs when putting it back together? Vortec engine, deathcool in it originally though I have lately been using the universal stuff, about 80k miles. Any knowledge appreciated. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Truck VW Diesel For Sale
Spotted and '81 VW diesel pickup for sale today. The sign says 212k mi. and $3000. Looks in pretty good shape, but I did see one spot of rust? next to windshield. 5 speed manual. on Bainbridge Island Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck VW Diesel For Sale
$3000 is about what they go for here in Portland, OR. The rust next to the windshield isn't so good though. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Truck Freighter--who was it?
Someone suggested a trucking company for handling heavy stuff. I know I saved it but where? I have an engine to ship and would like to help the buyer if possible. Thanks, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 143 K miles
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck Freighter--who was it?
www.abf.com one of the better LTL carriers. On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:45:37 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone suggested a trucking company for handling heavy stuff. I know I saved it but where? I have an engine to ship and would like to help the buyer if possible. Thanks, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 143 K miles -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck Freighter--who was it?
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone suggested a trucking company for handling heavy stuff. I know I saved it but where? I have an engine to ship and would like to help the buyer if possible. Any trucking company that handles LTL (less-than-truckload) freight will probably do it for you. May of the companies are regonal. ABF, Roadway, Yellow, Overnight, and FedEx truck are the ones that come proptly to mind - though there are _many_ others. Do you need them to pickup at your place, or can you take it to their terminal? -- Philip, recieved lots, but never needed to ship
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck Freighter--who was it?
In a message dated 7/21/2006 9:40:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone suggested a trucking company for handling heavy stuff. I know I saved it but where? I have an engine to ship and would like to help the buyer if possible. Any trucking company that handles LTL (less-than-truckload) freight will probably do it for you. May of the companies are regonal. ABF, Roadway, Yellow, Overnight, and FedEx truck are the ones that come proptly to mind - though there are _many_ others. Do you need them to pickup at your place, or can you take it to their terminal? Phillip, I could deliver to terminal, the engine is already on a pallet and I have an engine crane Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 143 K miles
Re: [MBZ] OT Truck Freighter--who was it?
www.freightquote.com Fmiser wrote: rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone suggested a trucking company for handling heavy stuff. I know I saved it but where? I have an engine to ship and would like to help the buyer if possible. Any trucking company that handles LTL (less-than-truckload) freight will probably do it for you. May of the companies are regonal. ABF, Roadway, Yellow, Overnight, and FedEx truck are the ones that come proptly to mind - though there are _many_ others. Do you need them to pickup at your place, or can you take it to their terminal? -- Philip, recieved lots, but never needed to ship ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
