Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
It seems than at Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:17:12 -0500, Timothy wrote: I'm not knocking power seats (and of course now it's a must have to compete in the American market) but geez, I buy a car (used or new) and I adjust it once? I'm not the only one that drives my cars. And it seems that everyone has a different requirement for the position of the seat. I can see the motivation for power adjust, memory seats. _I_ don't want one 'cause I don't want to have to fix it!! I like the spring, roller, and lever that my W123s use! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
I like that bigger, boxier GM truckSuburban body style too. The crewcabs and 'burbs didn't change over to the rounded body until '92. Looking back, I sure miss the '91 Suburban that we had, an 8 passenger 1500 4wd GMC with the 350. It was a huge mistake to trade it on the '93, smaller with way less rear seat room. Later, we got a '99, the last year of that body style, and it was far better than the '93 with better turning radius, better ride and more power with the last revision of the Vortec 350. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Please define this term
What the blazes does 9MFY07 mean? I saw this in an Wikipedia article. My dictionary, Google, and Wikipedia are no help. About all I can deduce is something financial about the year 2007. I think. So when all else fail, the repository for all truth is - the list. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Please define this term
I'm going to guess 9 months sales for year 2007? On 12/19/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the blazes does 9MFY07 mean? I saw this in an Wikipedia article. My dictionary, Google, and Wikipedia are no help. About all I can deduce is something financial about the year 2007. I think. So when all else fail, the repository for all truth is - the list. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
I like that bigger, boxier GM truckSuburban body style too. The crewcabs and 'burbs didn't change over to the rounded body until '92. Looking back, I sure miss the '91 Suburban that we had, an 8 passenger 1500 4wd GMC with the 350. It was a huge mistake to trade it on the '93, smaller with way less rear seat room. Later, we got a '99, the last year of that body style, and it was far better than the '93 with better turning radius, better ride and more power with the last revision of the Vortec 350. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR My '85 1/2 ton with carburetor-equipped 350 (5.7L) now has well over 350,000. Original engine, original carburetor (rebuilt twice), 2nd alternator, 2nd starter, 2nd AC compressor, 2nd differential, original tires (kidding!!), and 4th transmission. This transmission just lost torque-converter lockup. I haven't done any troubleshooting yet. To be fair, I new one of those transmissions wasn't going to last long - but it was cheap (free) and I had more time than money at that point. I've now got a line on a similar vintage 3/4 ton with a 6.2 diesel. No, I'm _not_ giving any location details!! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff
How about MMs? M! Brian On Dec 17, 2007 12:40 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not many thinks of finances this way, but most of the money spent on defense goes right back into our economy in the form of jobs, benefits, etc. In other words, it's not wasted. Also, military spending to reasearch new weapons, weapon systems and medical procedures have had a tremendous positive inpact on our standard of living. Much of what we call modern from plastics and lubricants through some fabrics are a direct result of Military spending. Two excellent examples are WD-40 and the insulating liner in your light weight winter coat. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/17/07 02:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Well, according to http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2003/hist.html, The estimated FY07 outlays for Defense are 442B plus an additional 62B for veteran's benefits with total outlays at 2,467B. That works out to be 20% by my calculator. How do you come up with 51%? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 14:35 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff No, it's actually 51% when you factor in the ongoing military benefits1.2B total. On 12/17/07, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:39 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Having to Slam Door
Whacking it with a good quality Phillips screwdriver and hammer (or a cut off piece of allen wrench) after putting WD-40 and Rust Eater (from Autozone) on it and letting it set for fifteen minutes usually works for me. When it doesn't, I tap around the outer edge of the bolt with a sharp punch and hammer in a counter-clockwise direction. This bungs up the bolt but it usually gets it out. Last resorts would be heating or drilling. Good luck, Gerry -- - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Having to Slam Door I learned from some scruffy junkyard guy once, who took parts off old cars all day, that if you take a screwdriver (or in this case a hex driver) and put it on the offending screw, and give it a good whack with a hammer it will usually loosen the thing up to where it is fairly easy to get it out. --R Robert Rentfro wrote: If it's only one that's not coming out, turn the whole strike. It is the taper of the screw head that is locking it in, not the threads. At least, that's been true on the half-dozen or more that I've dealt with. The real trouble starts when _two_ of them don't want to let go --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another door problem and some door talk
Glad you got that bolt out, Bob. Here's a question: In our 190D, the driver's door does not have that pleasing stop in its travel. You know, that feature that allows you to open it halfway and have it stay there, and helps keep it from swinging open too fast and making me cringe. What would need to be replaced to remedy this? This isn't what is referred to as the door having been sprung is it? Someone - Peter? - mentioned that they hate to slam the doors on their MB. I have to say I'm with you. So many people just let it fly when shutting car doors. I take my careful-ness to the point of opening the passenger side door, preferably the rear passenger door, instead of the driver's door if I simply need to get something out of the car. And I try to plan my actions to require as few door openings and closings possible. All this, I figure will make up for the years of likely abuse the doors have received before I got the vehicle. Oh, and it makes up for the wife's treatment of them too. I LOVE the quality that is so apparent in the doors of the MBs I have encountered. Our 190 feels a bit less satisfying than the 240, but for all I know, the quality is the same. The doors on my former SAAB 900 were particularly pleasing! When my wife and I got a ride from my brother in his '76 Plymouth Aspen, I wanted to gag at the feel and sound of the doors and windows. This is one of those models that does not have a frame over the top of the window. The window flaps back and forth when the door is closed. I recall that my friend's '79 Trans Am was the same. By way of a bit of redemption for American cars though, my '68 Dodge Coronet 2 door coupe does not have a frame over the windows, but is nice and solid and pleasing. And on that car when you roll down all four windows it's completely open front to back - always cool. It's not a post - it's a hardtop. No charge for these informational gems, guys. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5
OK Don wrote: The glow light has started acting strange in the '90 300D 2.5. It's quite possible that you have one open circuit glow plug. The glow relay would then be correct in displaying the bad plug signals, and the car would run crappy until the bad plug is heated by combustion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!
Oh Ed Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EDWARD DENNIS wrote: Hi, How did I buy a 1985 190d 2.2 non turbo? I was talking about W123s. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] take a look at this junker '85 190D!
Yeah, we should watch our subject headers. The thread started with a 190D ad, then somebody mentioned an ad for a 300d with no turbo and manual HVAC, then we started talking about which 300Ds had turbos All the while the subject says take a look at this junker '85 190D! Mitch. EDWARD DENNIS wrote: Oh Ed Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EDWARD DENNIS wrote: Hi, How did I buy a 1985 190d 2.2 non turbo? I was talking about W123s. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A small woirld...
Isn't it a small world after all? Within this list I have met someone who grew up approximately two blocks from where I lived in NYC, someone else who lives in a beautiful town in WNC that I am very familiar with, another individual who stomps around my favorite part of the world, another person that lives in the area of the country I grew up in, etc. In the town that I grew up in, my family was very well to do. My mother had her clothes either tailored or custom made. Now that I live in SC I have a great body man to take care of the many things beyond my capabilities, who is he? He is the son of the woman who was my mother's tailor and he now lives approximately 20 miles from me. It is indeed a very small world. Dave H... -- From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D OY... I'm a fixture at Cedar Creek, Cullasajah, Chatuga, Toxaway... Grew up summers at Lake Glenville (Nantahalah/Lake Thorpe) and would have attended WCU but grandfather was afraid I'd party too much at the lake. Instead I got a good Baptist BA at Mars Hill. I'm an Asheville native, Dave. From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:39:57 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Tim, where at in WNC? I attended WCU for a couple of years and lived in Cashiers, Sylva, Cullowhee and Franklin for even more years. Dave H... -- From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Nope... actually, Western North Carolina where I call home, the Great Smoky Mountains. Y'all come! From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:20:21 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Sounds like Dodge City, Kansas --- On Dec 16, 2007 7:36 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL, Dave... by trade I'm a licensed electrical contractor. My degree is in in music performance (piano). Business? The past season among other duties, I was the old ragtime pianist in a Wild West Saloon at a theme park. It's not a job, it's a lifestyle! The WVO is from the food outlets. I'll share! Bring the family anytime! Let the kids ride the rides while you watch the Can-Can dancers and I'll send you home with as much oil as you can haul. Right now I've 124 containers settling in the garage. OY! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT
I am not sure how or where to get a fuel tank cleaned. ??? Is there a chemical I should be adding to clean up any algae that may be present? Dave H... -- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT Might want to get the tank cleaned and the strainer replaced at the same time - likely you have algae growing in the tank that plugs the tank screen around a quarter tank. Check the clear fuel filter -- I'll bet it's black with flakey stuff. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar
I like the smaller ones myself. I think the suspension system holds up better with age so they tend to ride a bit higher as they get older. But I guess thats all personal preference just like the diesel or gas engine thing in our MBs. Manfred Rich wrote; Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I like huge Tata's, I think it is good for a country to have such things. --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love John Lennons S123 MB
That must be why she shrieks like she does? --R Hendrik Fay wrote: He never drove it himself and it scared the crap out of Yoko..good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
E M wrote: When I do take the cars in for service, and leave them on the lot, I tape a large note right on the steering wheel, DON'T adjust the seats, or move the mirrors They don't have to move the seat, they're only driving 50 feet from the lot to the service bay. That doesn't work too well with me I'm shorter than most of the mechanics out there at 5'7. So if I want them to drive it at all they have to move it. It does kind of irk me when they leave it so far back I can't touch the pedals though. At least bring it a little closer!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Lets see JR started out with a 116, then had a 126 which sometimes appeared as a 380SEL, and sometimes I saw it as a 300SD. Bobby for most of the show had a red 107, which started out as a 450SL, then a 380SL. I THINK around the time that Pam died or whatever happened to her It was a 560, but I think it was a black one but cant remember. I do know he also has some other convertible too. Back to JR, for a little bit he had a later model 126 but then switched to a Cadillac. I have seen the Jock big ol lincoln in person when I visited the ranch a while back. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas? Of course, Jock also drove a big ole Lincoln and so did Ray Crebbs wife Donna. But, you are right. I wanted a Mercedes when I saw JR had one. JR was the bad guy, but I always liked JR. Now, when Sue Ellen went from the big Ford Country Squire Wagon to a 123 Diesel Wagon, soccer moms nationwide wanted a MB wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Having to Slam Door
Didn't sound to me like the guy was blaming society... was just kind of talking to someone. It didn't sound like he got out much. Hendrik Fay wrote: Did he mention his alcohol problem that got him to where he was? No of course not, it's societies fault that he is not living the dream. Rich Thomas wrote: This was some years ago -- guy lived in a trashed trailer at the junkyard, was about 90lb, no teeth, wife had left him (duh) at some point, I tipped him and the Mexican guy $20 for a whole load of stuff they got for me off some old Eldos, and he was in heaven, Hey Pedro now we can go to Golden Corral. He lamented to me his status in life, living like that, working that job, but he knew car stuff. He had been a trim carpenter he said but lost his car in some situation so could not get to the job anymore so took the junkyard job for the trailer to live in. Seemed a decent soul, just never lifted himself up (or did and fell down again). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Duplicate Digests?
probably --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Stuart Saxonberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Duplicate Digests? Am I the only person getting two of each digest? Stuart S. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5
Does your ABS light also come on at the same time? If so, your overvoltage relay is going out, or has a loose connection. When it starts working again, it will start idling normal and the glow light will come back on. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5 The glow light has started acting strange in the '90 300D 2.5. It doesn't light when you turn the key to the glowing position (I did verify that the plugs get electricity in this position), the car starts right up, idles faster and rougher than usual, then about 30 seconds later, while driving down the street, the glow light comes on, and stays on for 30 seconds to a minute (haven't timed it - seems forever), then eventually goes off. At the next stop, the car idles normally. I assume the glow light issue is the glow plug relay, but what about the idle - I'm guessing the electronic idle controller is wonky? Are the two electrically related somehow? The glow plugs and the relay fuse were replaced last Spring. Any guesses, or informed opinions? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A small woirld...
Crazy Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave H... Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A small woirld... Isn't it a small world after all? Within this list I have met someone who grew up approximately two blocks from where I lived in NYC, someone else who lives in a beautiful town in WNC that I am very familiar with, another individual who stomps around my favorite part of the world, another person that lives in the area of the country I grew up in, etc. In the town that I grew up in, my family was very well to do. My mother had her clothes either tailored or custom made. Now that I live in SC I have a great body man to take care of the many things beyond my capabilities, who is he? He is the son of the woman who was my mother's tailor and he now lives approximately 20 miles from me. It is indeed a very small world. Dave H... -- From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D OY... I'm a fixture at Cedar Creek, Cullasajah, Chatuga, Toxaway... Grew up summers at Lake Glenville (Nantahalah/Lake Thorpe) and would have attended WCU but grandfather was afraid I'd party too much at the lake. Instead I got a good Baptist BA at Mars Hill. I'm an Asheville native, Dave. From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:39:57 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Tim, where at in WNC? I attended WCU for a couple of years and lived in Cashiers, Sylva, Cullowhee and Franklin for even more years. Dave H... -- From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Nope... actually, Western North Carolina where I call home, the Great Smoky Mountains. Y'all come! From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:20:21 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Sounds like Dodge City, Kansas --- On Dec 16, 2007 7:36 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL, Dave... by trade I'm a licensed electrical contractor. My degree is in in music performance (piano). Business? The past season among other duties, I was the old ragtime pianist in a Wild West Saloon at a theme park. It's not a job, it's a lifestyle! The WVO is from the food outlets. I'll share! Bring the family anytime! Let the kids ride the rides while you watch the Can-Can dancers and I'll send you home with as much oil as you can haul. Right now I've 124 containers settling in the garage. OY! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another door problem and some door talk
Not sure if the 201s are exactly like the 123s but you should have the door check strap which keeps it from flying open and allows it to find it's happy spot when open. Perhaps a 201 guy will chime in. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Another door problem and some door talk Glad you got that bolt out, Bob. Here's a question: In our 190D, the driver's door does not have that pleasing stop in its travel. You know, that feature that allows you to open it halfway and have it stay there, and helps keep it from swinging open too fast and making me cringe. What would need to be replaced to remedy this? This isn't what is referred to as the door having been sprung is it? Someone - Peter? - mentioned that they hate to slam the doors on their MB. I have to say I'm with you. So many people just let it fly when shutting car doors. I take my careful-ness to the point of opening the passenger side door, preferably the rear passenger door, instead of the driver's door if I simply need to get something out of the car. And I try to plan my actions to require as few door openings and closings possible. All this, I figure will make up for the years of likely abuse the doors have received before I got the vehicle. Oh, and it makes up for the wife's treatment of them too. I LOVE the quality that is so apparent in the doors of the MBs I have encountered. Our 190 feels a bit less satisfying than the 240, but for all I know, the quality is the same. The doors on my former SAAB 900 were particularly pleasing! When my wife and I got a ride from my brother in his '76 Plymouth Aspen, I wanted to gag at the feel and sound of the doors and windows. This is one of those models that does not have a frame over the top of the window. The window flaps back and forth when the door is closed. I recall that my friend's '79 Trans Am was the same. By way of a bit of redemption for American cars though, my '68 Dodge Coronet 2 door coupe does not have a frame over the windows, but is nice and solid and pleasing. And on that car when you roll down all four windows it's completely open front to back - always cool. It's not a post - it's a hardtop. No charge for these informational gems, guys. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
I have a friend with a Honda Civic, and I have to be careful not to hit her in the forehead with my elbow when she walks by me. I can back her car out of the driveway without touching the seat. My knees touch my chin as she likes the seat pulled WAY forward. It's a stick too. For the distance these guys are driving, they can leave the seat all way forwarded, even if they're a over 6'. Ed 300E On 19/12/2007, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: When I do take the cars in for service, and leave them on the lot, I tape a large note right on the steering wheel, DON'T adjust the seats, or move the mirrors They don't have to move the seat, they're only driving 50 feet from the lot to the service bay. That doesn't work too well with me I'm shorter than most of the mechanics out there at 5'7. So if I want them to drive it at all they have to move it. It does kind of irk me when they leave it so far back I can't touch the pedals though. At least bring it a little closer!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Having to Slam Door
Now that I've figured out how to adjust the doors I'm golden. I also was unaware there are three shims beneath the striker. The test will be when I go out this morning to get some shizzit done before I take a nap preparing for my last set of nights...27 years of rotating shifts is plenty. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Having to Slam Door Sounds like arthritis setting in. Perhaps going to the gym for a workout might help the situation :-) Anyway the male part of the door latch mechanism can be adjusted, it happens that over time they move inwards slightly. That Isuzu I bought recently needed all four doors adjusting and works well now. Fmiser wrote: When it's cold (well, cold for here.below 50 degrees) my drivers door requires more effort to get it closed. When it's in the 30's like it was this morning it requires great effort to get it closed. At first I thought it was the new weatherstripping I put on but I installed that two years ago and last winter I didn't;\'t have this problem. Is there a means to adjust the doors? It seems like it might be sagging a slight bit. Everything seems tight. This irritates me. Bob R. Sound to me like a worn door strike. I have had to replace 3 or 4 of those. This is the part that is attached to the car door frame, not the part connected to the door itself. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB hmm I forgot about Sue Ellen's Country Squire. I liked the Mark V (EWING-1) Jock drove. (Lincoln Marks III - V were favorites until my '78 lemon TownCar experience. When bodies changed in '80 I quit Lincoln (though wondered once if a 5 cyl. 3L work in my old Mark III. The 70's were tough on a kid who only got 8 mpg.)) BUT... the thing I remember most was how everyone seemed to want to replace their painted hub caps with Bundts when JR rolled out the light greem MB (EWING - 3) ...wasn't it a 280SE? I only watched the first years. When I lost interest I think J.R. was driving a W126 about 1981? Heck, in 13/14 seasons, I have no idea what JR was driving by 1991? Let's see.. I was never interested in Corvettes, SLs nor 911s so I paid little attention to Bobby and Pam's vehicles. I do feature that they had an impact in the 450SL because every budding socialite seemed to covet one. Too bad more people didn't watch Dynasty. We might see more examples of the 600 Pullman floating around? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. While we're dreaming I'd like a 2500 w/6.2l (so I can afford to drive it) long bed 4wd in robins egg blue. I used one with a 350 for plowing one winter, comfortable truck. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:03:22 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kaleb wrote: Since its a 98 it would be injected ALL chevy and GMC trucks have had fuel injection since 1988. In fact, GMC made a few 350 with fuel injection in 1987. I still want one of those - a Fire Engine RED 1987 GMC 4X4 Shortbed with the fuel injected 350. 87 was the last year for the boxier body style before they switch bodies in 88. Donald H. Snook - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
Curt Raymond wrote: I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. The dashboard/instrument cluster even? I guess its better than the ones in the early 90's. IMO, the only decent dashboard/instrument cluster was the 95+ trucks. Mom has a 2000 Yukon and it looks pretty nice on the inside. Pretty comfortable too (even on long trips). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another door problem and some door talk
Here's a question: In our 190D, the driver's door does not have that pleasing stop in its travel. You know, that feature that allows you to open it halfway and have it stay there, and helps keep it from swinging open too fast and making me cringe. What would need to be replaced to remedy this? You need a new door check strap. They have spring-loaded BB's that slide in a dimpled channel, and they're very prone to wear. I have had very poor luck trying to repair these. Usually the side blows out of the barrel that holds the BB's, and the parts crunch once and drop into the door's bottom. It's a fairly easy DIY job. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
Kaleb typed: I sure wish I would have kept my firetruck. There is a sentence you don't see everyday... Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar
Jag was a bad car from the 70 through about 87. By then, Ford had owned them to solve Jag's corrosion and reliability issues. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/18/07 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar it's not so much that Tata vehicles are so great (they do OK, esp on Indian roads), it's that Jag is that bad. On Dec 18, 2007 2:01 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Tata vehicles are OK? How come we don't see 'em in the states? Allan Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for shaguar, of course. On Dec 18, 2007 1:35 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A step up for Tata? Or Jaguar? Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: having used Tata vehicles, the quality will be a step up. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB
Kaleb wrote: Lets see JR started out with a 116, then had a 126 which sometimes appeared as a 380SEL, and sometimes I saw it as a 300SD. Bobby for most of the show had a red 107, which started out as a 450SL, then a 380SL. I THINK around the time that Pam died or whatever happened to her It was a 560, but I think it was a black one but cant remember. Back to JR, for a little bit he had a later model 126 but then switched to a Cadillac. I have seen the Jock big ol lincoln in person when I visited the ranch a while back. I am a big Dallas fan. My wife and I have been watching it from the beginning. We are through season 7. We are waiting for season 8 to be released. Thus far, JR has only had two MB's. The 116, then the 126 (but you are right it has gone from a 280sel to a 380sel. I have not seen him in a Cadillac. Pam shared Bobby's red 107, then he got her a Porsche - that was the black one you referred to. We just finished the season where Bobby is shot (I think this is the season that all ends up being a dream). Sue Ellen went from the country Squire to the 123 Wagon to a 560SEC. For a while Clayton Farlow drove a Rolls, now he has a Cadillac Limo. It is funny when you see the 116 driving into Southfork and its obvious they are using old stock footage. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Having to Slam Door
Well he looked like he might have had one or two in his life, but basically he was just kind of a low-class guy with some sense but not enough to get out of his situation. --R John Robbins wrote: Didn't sound to me like the guy was blaming society... was just kind of talking to someone. It didn't sound like he got out much. Hendrik Fay wrote: Did he mention his alcohol problem that got him to where he was? No of course not, it's societies fault that he is not living the dream. Rich Thomas wrote: This was some years ago -- guy lived in a trashed trailer at the junkyard, was about 90lb, no teeth, wife had left him (duh) at some point, I tipped him and the Mexican guy $20 for a whole load of stuff they got for me off some old Eldos, and he was in heaven, Hey Pedro now we can go to Golden Corral. He lamented to me his status in life, living like that, working that job, but he knew car stuff. He had been a trim carpenter he said but lost his car in some situation so could not get to the job anymore so took the junkyard job for the trailer to live in. Seemed a decent soul, just never lifted himself up (or did and fell down again). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New Starter
Got an early Christmas present last night when I picked up the 190D. Well I mean it was great that I got it, the $455 bill was umm, painful. It was that much because of the $320 starter. Yes I could have gotten it cheaper from Rusty but then I'd still have been down to 1 car today. Sorry Rusty... Anyway I'm AMAZED at how quiet the new starter is. At first I though it was broken and not turning, then the car started... Wierd. -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5
My Indicator light (91 300D 2,5) did not operate correctly either after replacing all of the GPs and the GP Amp - turned out the Amp I got from MB was bad -- they gave me a new one with no problem - then it worked correctly. One or the other in your system has a problem -either 1 or more GPs are not operating properly or the Amp is not working properly. Good luck - at least the car starts! Merry Christmas - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5 The glow light has started acting strange in the '90 300D 2.5. It doesn't light when you turn the key to the glowing position (I did verify that the plugs get electricity in this position), the car starts right up, idles faster and rougher than usual, then about 30 seconds later, while driving down the street, the glow light comes on, and stays on for 30 seconds to a minute (haven't timed it - seems forever), then eventually goes off. At the next stop, the car idles normally. I assume the glow light issue is the glow plug relay, but what about the idle - I'm guessing the electronic idle controller is wonky? Are the two electrically related somehow? The glow plugs and the relay fuse were replaced last Spring. Any guesses, or informed opinions? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Usually the day I bitch about people forgetting to fuel up is the day I realize I've not been paying attention and have to make an unscheduled fuel stop. I've never run out though, touch wood. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:22:19 +1030 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oooh stop your bitching people, over here you're lucky if the spare parts person will talk to you. I know the car sales people won't unless you are wearing a suit. Our main dealer used to be alright until they built a fancy new facility and now the spare parts are in there with the new cars and I think the attitude has changed a bit. Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Hendrik who has not been left stranded by his MB's..yet PS. perhaps if you people remember to put fuel in your cars you won't need to bother the nice roadside elves so much, this begs the question, how did you lot become a super power if the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
I think we;re talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a 68 280S, did not use a pump to keep it pressurized - it was more like a huge shock absorber (about8 dismeter x 12 long) that was mounted above the rear axle differential transversly. It did not have ay air or fluid connections and there was no pump to maintain pressure. Perhaps there is more than one type? I see Rusty sells the Spring I used but not the compensator - maybe they;re difficult to get? Also, there may be some confusion because of the Air Bags used at each corner to maintain level on the higher end W108's? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device It's a pump system with hydraulic damping using air compressed by the movement of the piston shaft back and forth and an internal valving system to keep the resting position the same. Works great when new, but I suspect they are all long dead by now. Either the seals fail and it won't hold pressure, or the valves fail and it won't generate pressure. There is a reason that Benz switched to pump driven hydraulic/nitrogen self leveling in 1968. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
Yea, I like the 6.2. I sure wish I would have kept my firetruck. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. While we're dreaming I'd like a 2500 w/6.2l (so I can afford to drive it) long bed 4wd in robins egg blue. I used one with a 350 for plowing one winter, comfortable truck. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a 68 280S, did not use a pump to keep it pressurized - it was more like a huge shock absorber (about8 dismeter x 12 long) that was mounted above the rear axle differential transversly. Yes, it has a pump. It's inside. As are all the other parts. An elegant bit of engineering. The compensator is NLA. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
We dropped the project. The water caused cavitation in the engine and ruined the engine before 200kmi. BAD news... Luther On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:19:23 -0600, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My company has several trucks with H2O injection. Let me ask our fuel economy manager for his take on it. Luther On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:37:20 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - water that's in liquid form, whether fog or mist, or what ever should give more cylinder pressure when heated by combustion (or even compression). I don't think that just high humidity would improve performance though - perhaps some imperial testing is in order? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Amplifier
Does Kaleb have any non working amps that may have a working op amp? That's an idea On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:52:36 -0600, jgiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I am talking about the amp that is behind the glove box. But what I am trying to find is a component that is on the circuit board in the box behind the glove box. Its the integrated circuit on that board. An OP Amp. TAA2765A obsolete part. The pin out on this is not standard. Douglas -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another door problem and some door talk
Door check strap. I had to replace 3 out of 4 on my 190D and 1 door (passenger side rear I believe) had been replaced but not connected.. Wierd. I dunno why 3 were broken in my car but the were. 1 Had lost the balls that stop the door opening too far. 1 had the part that hooks to the pin ripped off and 1 had no strap at all. Look where the door meets the car, between the hinges. Compare to the other doors, then call Rusty. The actual replacement is fairly easy except for the time spent navigating the old one out of the door and the new one in. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:46:28 -0800 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Another door problem and some door talk To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Glad you got that bolt out, Bob. Here's a question: In our 190D, the driver's door does not have that pleasing stop in its travel. You know, that feature that allows you to open it halfway and have it stay there, and helps keep it from swinging open too fast and making me cringe. What would need to be replaced to remedy this? This isn't what is referred to as the door having been sprung is it? - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Oh, I can see thet advantage, especially w/multiple drivers. Heck, today the memory function even recalls mirror positions and radio presets. Brings me to another thought. I'm only driver of my cars. I always thought that a vehicle got used to one owner's driving habits. Maybe it's imagination but it's something I like to believe. I love the ole guy who has done alignment for years. He always asks who is the primary driver, How much does he weigh, etc. From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:06:40 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB It seems than at Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:17:12 -0500, Timothy wrote: I'm not knocking power seats (and of course now it's a must have to compete in the American market) but geez, I buy a car (used or new) and I adjust it once? I'm not the only one that drives my cars. And it seems that everyone has a different requirement for the position of the seat. I can see the motivation for power adjust, memory seats. _I_ don't want one 'cause I don't want to have to fix it!! I like the spring, roller, and lever that my W123s use! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
I have 2 cars that need frontend rebuilds. My CD and Dad's TD. Which way is better for the brake track rod mount and upper/lower control arms: by the book and remove the shock/spring with compressor, or another way? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Please define this term
Nineth month fiscal year 2007 From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:19:42 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Please define this term I'm going to guess 9 months sales for year 2007? On 12/19/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the blazes does 9MFY07 mean? I saw this in an Wikipedia article. My dictionary, Google, and Wikipedia are no help. About all I can deduce is something financial about the year 2007. I think. So when all else fail, the repository for all truth is - the list. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Amplifier
Don't know if this has been posted but here is some more info on this component. I'm way out of my depth here but perhaps the spec sheet would give you enough info to find a workable alternative? http://www.datasheetarchive.com/preview/3313052.html Allan Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Kaleb have any non working amps that may have a working op amp? That's an idea On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:52:36 -0600, jgiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I am talking about the amp that is behind the glove box. But what I am trying to find is a component that is on the circuit board in the box behind the glove box. Its the integrated circuit on that board. An OP Amp. TAA2765A obsolete part. The pin out on this is not standard. Douglas -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB
I forgot about her 560SEC. Yes, take spells of watching it every several years. Its probably about time to start up again. I just watched it on TV though on reruns. I do have season 1-2 though. Didnt know they have more. Might buy them or at least netflix them although that takes up alot of space in the que. Yes it is funny to see the 116 pull in our out when he has had the 126 for years by then. As far as Dallas goes, it was great when Jock was on there. After he died, it was still good but not the same. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB Kaleb wrote: Lets see JR started out with a 116, then had a 126 which sometimes appeared as a 380SEL, and sometimes I saw it as a 300SD. Bobby for most of the show had a red 107, which started out as a 450SL, then a 380SL. I THINK around the time that Pam died or whatever happened to her It was a 560, but I think it was a black one but cant remember. Back to JR, for a little bit he had a later model 126 but then switched to a Cadillac. I have seen the Jock big ol lincoln in person when I visited the ranch a while back. I am a big Dallas fan. My wife and I have been watching it from the beginning. We are through season 7. We are waiting for season 8 to be released. Thus far, JR has only had two MB's. The 116, then the 126 (but you are right it has gone from a 280sel to a 380sel. I have not seen him in a Cadillac. Pam shared Bobby's red 107, then he got her a Porsche - that was the black one you referred to. We just finished the season where Bobby is shot (I think this is the season that all ends up being a dream). Sue Ellen went from the country Squire to the 123 Wagon to a 560SEC. For a while Clayton Farlow drove a Rolls, now he has a Cadillac Limo. It is funny when you see the 116 driving into Southfork and its obvious they are using old stock footage. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
They were never cheap but occasionally someone is selling a good used one on ebay. On Dec 19, 2007 10:32 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a 68 280S, did not use a pump to keep it pressurized - it was more like a huge shock absorber (about8 dismeter x 12 long) that was mounted above the rear axle differential transversly. Yes, it has a pump. It's inside. As are all the other parts. An elegant bit of engineering. The compensator is NLA. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT
A friend was telling me about draining and removing the tank, taking it to a car wash (or using a pressure washer at home) and spraying it out well then using a blow dryer or heat gun to get all of the moisture out. From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:06:15 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT I am not sure how or where to get a fuel tank cleaned. ??? Is there a chemical I should be adding to clean up any algae that may be present? Dave H... -- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT Might want to get the tank cleaned and the strainer replaced at the same time - likely you have algae growing in the tank that plugs the tank screen around a quarter tank. Check the clear fuel filter -- I'll bet it's black with flakey stuff. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
I should have kept that front end stuff since I have the euro 123 now, dont know if needs anything or not. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild I have 2 cars that need frontend rebuilds. My CD and Dad's TD. Which way is better for the brake track rod mount and upper/lower control arms: by the book and remove the shock/spring with compressor, or another way? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
I'd of course put in a new cd player/digital tuner but yeah I like the gauges on the Pre-'88 alot. I don't like the '88 and onward much at all... I like dial speedos. I also like the wrap around console on the pre-'88. My wife hates it since she can't sneak in and change the radio station. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:14:12 -0600 From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. The dashboard/instrument cluster even? I guess its better than the ones in the early 90's. IMO, the only decent dashboard/instrument cluster was the 95+ trucks. Mom has a 2000 Yukon and it looks pretty nice on the inside. Pretty comfortable too (even on long trips). John - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:57:55 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB I have a friend with a Honda Civic, and I have to be careful not to hit her in the forehead with my elbow when she walks by me. I can back her car out of the driveway without touching the seat. My knees touch my chin as she likes the seat pulled WAY forward. It's a stick too. For the distance these guys are driving, they can leave the seat all way forwarded, even if they're a over 6'. Ed 300E On 19/12/2007, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: When I do take the cars in for service, and leave them on the lot, I tape a large note right on the steering wheel, DON'T adjust the seats, or move the mirrors They don't have to move the seat, they're only driving 50 feet from the lot to the service bay. That doesn't work too well with me I'm shorter than most of the mechanics out there at 5'7. So if I want them to drive it at all they have to move it. It does kind of irk me when they leave it so far back I can't touch the pedals though. At least bring it a little closer!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
' You play piano? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar
Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Tata vehicles are OK? How come we don't see 'em in the states? One reason is an internal market of 1.1 billion people with a rapidly expanding economy and much looser restrictions on vehicles /emissions [at least it used to be so - truck bodies were driven from Jamshedpur to Mumbai by drivers sitting on a wooden bench and with no windshield so they could be outfitted]. It would take lot to move into the already crowded US market. BillR. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
How was it powered? Mine didn't have any electric connections? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a 68 280S, did not use a pump to keep it pressurized - it was more like a huge shock absorber (about8 dismeter x 12 long) that was mounted above the rear axle differential transversly. Yes, it has a pump. It's inside. As are all the other parts. An elegant bit of engineering. The compensator is NLA. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another door problem and some door talk
Have replaced several! I had to pull the pin on one until I had a chance to replace. First time I opened the door and forgot I thought I was going to fold the driver's door 180 degrees into the front fender! From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:28:35 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another door problem and some door talk Here's a question: In our 190D, the driver's door does not have that pleasing stop in its travel. You know, that feature that allows you to open it halfway and have it stay there, and helps keep it from swinging open too fast and making me cringe. What would need to be replaced to remedy this? You need a new door check strap. They have spring-loaded BB's that slide in a dimpled channel, and they're very prone to wear. I have had very poor luck trying to repair these. Usually the side blows out of the barrel that holds the BB's, and the parts crunch once and drop into the door's bottom. It's a fairly easy DIY job. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
i just spread the hearsay, not work out the math of it. On Dec 19, 2007 12:04 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? It's on the opposite end of the car the weight is the same over the rear end regardless of the engine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device the general feeling is that the springs work for sixes but not for eights. On Dec 18, 2007 7:53 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - When the hydropneumatic levelling device died on my W108 it allowed the rear of the car to ride very low. Wy too low. I found a Spring Assy. that could be used in lieu of the compensator since back then (30 years ago) they were almost $500. The Spring was less than $100 and IIRC I bought it from a place in Fl. The spring brought the rear end back to proper ride height and changed the ride very little. My compensator never leaked - it just collapsed - that's the way they all fail AFAIK. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device OK gang, I've looked everywhere and have not found a description of what is inside the hydropneumatic device fitted to W108 rear axles. Is this a typical nitrogen-charge-behind-a-diaphragm scenario (this would explain why they don't last forever) or did the engineers do something clever? Well, the self levelling is a clever idea in itself, but were they able to avoid the need for a diaphragm and a nitrogen charge... What is the failure mode for these devices? Is it just that they stop performing the levelling function (loss of fluid) or do they lose the nitrogen charge and then become very firm, producing a harsh ride? Numerous people have told me that this device doesn't last and doesn't make a big difference etc etc, but people say the same about the self-levelling on MB wagons and that's certainly not a troublesome system if you understand it. Has anyone actually seen one of the W108-fitted devices in pieces, or a diagram of its composition? D. -- David Bruckmann, Palo Alto, CA Current Reality: 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) Goettin 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280 SEL 4.5 (150,000 km) Blauer Engel 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (145,000 km) Piaf http://dolly.bruckmann.com/ 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300D (390,000 km) Brown Betty Shady Past: 1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km) 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) Sieglinde 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km) Diva 1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km) 1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1984 MB 300TD (385,000 km) Gertraud 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 1986 Renault 9 1.7L (155,000 km) 2002 VW Golf GLS TDI The Hated Golf (74,000 km) -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question
No metal pipe at all between the intake in the lake and the house up at the top. All of it is plastic hose. Even most of the cold water line under the house is plastic hose. Only the hot water line and the pipes going up through the floor are copper at this time. I am renovating and all of the under floor stuff will be copper in the next summer or two. Will stay with the plastic hose going down the hill to the pump house and lake. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question How about an outbuilding with only 2 wire service - hot and neutral - for 120V? Should I also have a ground rod? That is the situation with the pumphouse at the lake. That's old enough that the pump/motor is probably well-grounded through the metal pipe to the water. Unless somebody has re-plumbed it recently with PVC. Will the aluminum boat in the water scenario just result in the plug refusing to deliver any power or will it work reliably? If it's already 'tickling' you, it'll pop immediately. As it's supposed to in order to save your life! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
IIRC, the Allante was built in an odd way - chassis were built by GM in US then they were shipped to Italy to have the body fitted by one of the body guys there - Giguario perhaps? maybe Bertone? really can't recall. Talk about a quality control nightmare. Ha! What a way to build a car - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
LarryT wrote: How was it powered? Mine didn't have any electric connections? I'm guessing suspension movement pumps it up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
LarryT wrote: IIRC, the Allante was built in an odd way - chassis were built by GM in US then they were shipped to Italy to have the body fitted by one of the body guys there - Giguario perhaps? maybe Bertone? really can't recall. I forgot how the Chrysler/Maserati TC was built. I kind of want one of those, even though it looks a lot like my old 1987 Lebaron coupe. Whenever I see one, it's overpriced, worn out abused, or auto tranny. I want 5sp and 224 hp. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question
The insulation on the wire appears to be intact. It is black plastic insulation. We had solid lines feeding the house until a few years ago as well. They were fabric covered and a lot of the fabric had broken down and fallen off. There were big areas of bare wire and with them only 6 to 10 inches apart with a bit of sag from stretching etc, it could have been an issue. It never was so we were lucky. The thing that ultimately caused us to have it changed really was the rot at the bottom of the pole between the main line and the cottage. We had to change it out and ended up having the main line come into the garage first and then feed the cottage from the garage. The garage is tall and that eliminated poles altogether. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:11 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question Three thoughts. With a 240v the max voltage to ground is still 120v; the 240v only exists across the two power lines. But the current (for same hp pump) would be halved, resulting in lower voltage drop. Second, I think you said the existing wire is suspended solid conductor, which is more likely to develop cracks in the copper than stranded wire. So the wire could break but you could also get hot spots at the cracks, which could be bad. Finally, the insulation on the old wires may not be suitable for exposure to sunlight (UV) in which case it could dry out, crack, and fall off. vsr ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
My dad was stickler about keeping the tanks full. I think it dated back to the Cold War Era when he'd receive a call at 3AM and have to head to the missile tracking facility. 24hr convenience stores with fuel pumps didn't exist then. Of course, most gas stations had attendants back then who ran out, checked the oil, cleaned the windshield and filled the tank for a few dollars (@ $0.379 ga.) If you drove a diesel you had the inconvenience of driving down to the truck route along the river to find a pump. This was the type of thing I thought of a few mornings ago when I stood at a convenience store in 16F air marvelling at four choices of diesel (Dino, B5,B20 B100) at the bright new self-pay pumps. From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:15:36 -0800 (PST) To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Usually the day I bitch about people forgetting to fuel up is the day I realize I've not been paying attention and have to make an unscheduled fuel stop. I've never run out though, touch wood. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:22:19 +1030 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oooh stop your bitching people, over here you're lucky if the spare parts person will talk to you. I know the car sales people won't unless you are wearing a suit. Our main dealer used to be alright until they built a fancy new facility and now the spare parts are in there with the new cars and I think the attitude has changed a bit. Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Hendrik who has not been left stranded by his MB's..yet PS. perhaps if you people remember to put fuel in your cars you won't need to bother the nice roadside elves so much, this begs the question, how did you lot become a super power if the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Allante was Re: Gotta love MB
Larry T wrote: IIRC, the Allante was built in an odd way - chassis were built by GM in US then they were shipped to Italy to have the body fitted by one of the body guys there - Giguario perhaps? I think it was pinnafarina (spelling?) The later Allantes were pretty cool cars. They had the first Northstar engines. That's a lot of grunt for a relatively small car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB
Had some neighbors who followed the trend (from Dallas) of getting numbered personalized plates. That was, until the IRS questioned why the daughter's SLs could be considered a business expense. The father was finally sentenced to federal prison for bid rigging on a highway project. From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:20:54 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB Kaleb wrote: Lets see JR started out with a 116, then had a 126 which sometimes appeared as a 380SEL, and sometimes I saw it as a 300SD. Bobby for most of the show had a red 107, which started out as a 450SL, then a 380SL. I THINK around the time that Pam died or whatever happened to her It was a 560, but I think it was a black one but cant remember. Back to JR, for a little bit he had a later model 126 but then switched to a Cadillac. I have seen the Jock big ol lincoln in person when I visited the ranch a while back. I am a big Dallas fan. My wife and I have been watching it from the beginning. We are through season 7. We are waiting for season 8 to be released. Thus far, JR has only had two MB's. The 116, then the 126 (but you are right it has gone from a 280sel to a 380sel. I have not seen him in a Cadillac. Pam shared Bobby's red 107, then he got her a Porsche - that was the black one you referred to. We just finished the season where Bobby is shot (I think this is the season that all ends up being a dream). Sue Ellen went from the country Squire to the 123 Wagon to a 560SEC. For a while Clayton Farlow drove a Rolls, now he has a Cadillac Limo. It is funny when you see the 116 driving into Southfork and its obvious they are using old stock footage. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
That's a process I just paid to have done on a 300D last week and have another in the shop this week for the same. :( From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:49:39 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild I have 2 cars that need frontend rebuilds. My CD and Dad's TD. Which way is better for the brake track rod mount and upper/lower control arms: by the book and remove the shock/spring with compressor, or another way? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Frankenheap-lampery
Coming home yesterday I noticed that I have lost the low beam on the other side of the car, looks like the other R2 has bit the dust. Time to make the other adapter and put an H4 in it! I removed the offending light fixture, and the R2 from it. As before, I de-soldered the flange from the barrel of the R2 lamp. I reamed the flange (using some kind of tapered body shop tool and a hammer) so that the H4 bulb could then fit through the hole in the flange from the rear. (The H4's barrel will fit as-is from the front, but it ends up in completely the wrong plane that way.) The top of the H4 bulb's base, which is larger than the barrel, wedges snugly into the larger flange opening. I filed slots in the flange for the the three H4 ears. The H4 bulb sits in almost the same plane as the R2 did, inset into the fixture only by the thickness of the R2 flange's sheet metal. I had to nip half of the two smaller ears off the H4 bulb's flange in order to fit the spring collar of the fixture over the bulb assembly. Voila, again! Flush with success, and faced with a little extra time this morning, I tackled the (dead) fog light. By eye, it looked like a standard H3 bulb would have its filament in about the right place if its flange was perched on top of the barrel of the defunct Neglin 10086 fog lamp. I broke the glass out of the base of the Neglin and cut the wire of the H3 to length to reach through the center pin of the bulb base. I opened up the solder hole and put the wire through, then clamped the flange to the top of the barrel. A hot soldering iron secured the flange to the barrel, and soldered the wire to the nub. I oriented the filament the same way as the stock bulb. (Or so I think.) I had to do a little filing in order for the composite bulb to fit into the socket, the barrel fits in pretty deep and the H3's flange is a little larger than would fit. Fortunately it was only a little excess solder that prevented the bulb from fitting. With both stock Euro bulbs replaced with commonly-available US bulbs I put the lamp assembly back and tested it. It worked fine. Success! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
How was it powered? Mine didn't have any electric connections? As it bounces up and down it moves the pump piston. Like I said, elegant. The only way the newer system was superior was that it would pump up just sitting there, the older one had to be driven. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? As in the narrator of the Moose and Squirrel show! Same guy, right. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB
I quite watching after Jock died. (I worked for a guy who owned a franchise of Holiday Inns who was a course but likable guy could have been his twin. He was a difficult man to work for, though.) Anyway, when Miss Elle married Clayton Farlow, I just couldn't get past the actor, Howard Keel from his MGM years in Showboat, Kismet, Seven Brides, Kiss Me Kate... I didn't dislike him but Dallas wasn't the same for me. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:57:35 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB I forgot about her 560SEC. Yes, take spells of watching it every several years. Its probably about time to start up again. I just watched it on TV though on reruns. I do have season 1-2 though. Didnt know they have more. Might buy them or at least netflix them although that takes up alot of space in the que. Yes it is funny to see the 116 pull in our out when he has had the 126 for years by then. As far as Dallas goes, it was great when Jock was on there. After he died, it was still good but not the same. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB Kaleb wrote: Lets see JR started out with a 116, then had a 126 which sometimes appeared as a 380SEL, and sometimes I saw it as a 300SD. Bobby for most of the show had a red 107, which started out as a 450SL, then a 380SL. I THINK around the time that Pam died or whatever happened to her It was a 560, but I think it was a black one but cant remember. Back to JR, for a little bit he had a later model 126 but then switched to a Cadillac. I have seen the Jock big ol lincoln in person when I visited the ranch a while back. I am a big Dallas fan. My wife and I have been watching it from the beginning. We are through season 7. We are waiting for season 8 to be released. Thus far, JR has only had two MB's. The 116, then the 126 (but you are right it has gone from a 280sel to a 380sel. I have not seen him in a Cadillac. Pam shared Bobby's red 107, then he got her a Porsche - that was the black one you referred to. We just finished the season where Bobby is shot (I think this is the season that all ends up being a dream). Sue Ellen went from the country Squire to the 123 Wagon to a 560SEC. For a while Clayton Farlow drove a Rolls, now he has a Cadillac Limo. It is funny when you see the 116 driving into Southfork and its obvious they are using old stock footage. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm is my writeup of doing the TD. Use the spring compressor if you value your life and that of others nearby (and your property in the vicinity). Or do it another way, your choice. --R Luther wrote: I have 2 cars that need frontend rebuilds. My CD and Dad's TD. Which way is better for the brake track rod mount and upper/lower control arms: by the book and remove the shock/spring with compressor, or another way? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB
What about that season where they used whats her name to play Miss Ellie? Geez, that was stupid. The show really go stupid toward the end --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB I quite watching after Jock died. (I worked for a guy who owned a franchise of Holiday Inns who was a course but likable guy could have been his twin. He was a difficult man to work for, though.) Anyway, when Miss Elle married Clayton Farlow, I just couldn't get past the actor, Howard Keel from his MGM years in Showboat, Kismet, Seven Brides, Kiss Me Kate... I didn't dislike him but Dallas wasn't the same for me. enz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
Wasn't the OEM (someone like BOGE) pressured to stop selling them so MB could mark them up more? This far out there can't possibly be any IP issues but then again, it would be a small market in any case. A former '67 230s (110 or 111) had a bad one. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
What were you charged if you don't mind my asking? I need front end work done as wellbeen putting it off. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild That's a process I just paid to have done on a 300D last week and have another in the shop this week for the same. :( From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:49:39 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild I have 2 cars that need frontend rebuilds. My CD and Dad's TD. Which way is better for the brake track rod mount and upper/lower control arms: by the book and remove the shock/spring with compressor, or another way? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
That was major in college. Started lessons at 5. After college worked as an accompanist in NYC. I worked many years with the National Pageant System (yeah, beauty pageants) then signed with an agent in mid-80s who kept me fairly busy in hotels and clubs. Economics led to my getting electrical contractor's license about 1991 to have something to fall back on. (actually, to work like a dawg to pay tuition for and keep the love of my life in diamond sapphires. The happiest memory I have was seeing her tail lights that last time. VIXXEN!) Today I still do a few residential or commercial electrical projects, the agent of 20+ years cherry picks piano contracts for me and I spend winter months in hibernation by the fire with the dogs. I'm doing a winter interim in music at a Methodist Church where I was organist for twenty years and as music director for a Wild West theme park I'm putting together the next season's Can-Can shows. Next May I'll return as the old ragtime piano player in the Saloon. (The food outlets of that park are my supply of WVO I've mentioned.) From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:14:25 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB ' You play piano? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB
I think them trying to replace Jock was when Dallas jumped the shark. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB What about that season where they used whats her name to play Miss Ellie? Geez, that was stupid. The show really go stupid toward the end --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB I quite watching after Jock died. (I worked for a guy who owned a franchise of Holiday Inns who was a course but likable guy could have been his twin. He was a difficult man to work for, though.) Anyway, when Miss Elle married Clayton Farlow, I just couldn't get past the actor, Howard Keel from his MGM years in Showboat, Kismet, Seven Brides, Kiss Me Kate... I didn't dislike him but Dallas wasn't the same for me. enz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device
Larry, The huge shock absorber you reference uses internal valving to pump itself up re-level the rear end when under load. That's what makes it better than the replacement spring. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/19/07 09:29 AM To: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I think we;re talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a 68 280S, did not use a pump to keep it pressurized - it was more like a huge shock absorber (about8 dismeter x 12 long) that was mounted above the rear axle differential transversly. It did not have ay air or fluid connections and there was no pump to maintain pressure. Perhaps there is more than one type? I see Rusty sells the Spring I used but not the compensator - maybe they;re difficult to get? Also, there may be some confusion because of the Air Bags used at each corner to maintain level on the higher end W108's? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device It's a pump system with hydraulic damping using air compressed by the movement of the piston shaft back and forth and an internal valving system to keep the resting position the same. Works great when new, but I suspect they are all long dead by now. Either the seals fail and it won't hold pressure, or the valves fail and it won't generate pressure. There is a reason that Benz switched to pump driven hydraulic/nitrogen self leveling in 1968. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
It seems than at Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:14:12 -0600, John wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. The dashboard/instrument cluster even? I guess its better than the ones in the early 90's. IMO, the only decent dashboard/instrument cluster was the 95+ trucks. My favorite instrument cluster is the 67-72. Except that I sometimes think I can see that huge fuel gauge move! A 15 gallon tank and a looong pointer make for lots of needle motion! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Please define this term
What the blazes does 9MFY07 mean? -- Philip Timothy replied Nineth month fiscal year 2007 Thank you! -- Philip, now at peace with the world ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Having to Slam Door
It seems than at Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:38:30 -0700, Robert wrote: Now that I've figured out how to adjust the doors I'm golden. I also was unaware there are three shims beneath the striker. On my cars, the quantity varied. It seems to be follow the body. Thus I have changed a strike, I have always ended up with the same number of shims with the new strike as the old. I still don't have what I consider a _good_ way to adjust it... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Cool...we are a diverse bunch. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That was major in college. Started lessons at 5. After college worked as an accompanist in NYC. I worked many years with the National Pageant System (yeah, beauty pageants) then signed with an agent in mid-80s who kept me fairly busy in hotels and clubs. Economics led to my getting electrical contractor's license about 1991 to have something to fall back on. (actually, to work like a dawg to pay tuition for and keep the love of my life in diamond sapphires. The happiest memory I have was seeing her tail lights that last time. VIXXEN!) Today I still do a few residential or commercial electrical projects, the agent of 20+ years cherry picks piano contracts for me and I spend winter months in hibernation by the fire with the dogs. I'm doing a winter interim in music at a Methodist Church where I was organist for twenty years and as music director for a Wild West theme park I'm putting together the next season's Can-Can shows. Next May I'll return as the old ragtime piano player in the Saloon. (The food outlets of that park are my supply of WVO I've mentioned.) From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:14:25 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB ' You play piano? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Speaking of piano music, I am a big fan of Roger Williams. He is playing one of his 12 or 14 hour marathons next year in MO. Plan on going as he is getting pretty old and probably wont be around long. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
If I recall the Allante had a removable hardtop just like the SL convertibles? From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:44:09 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB IIRC, the Allante was built in an odd way - chassis were built by GM in US then they were shipped to Italy to have the body fitted by one of the body guys there - Giguario perhaps? maybe Bertone? really can't recall. Talk about a quality control nightmare. Ha! What a way to build a car - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question
Make sure to bond the copper water lines to the ground at the main panel. From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:45:53 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question No metal pipe at all between the intake in the lake and the house up at the top. All of it is plastic hose. Even most of the cold water line under the house is plastic hose. Only the hot water line and the pipes going up through the floor are copper at this time. I am renovating and all of the under floor stuff will be copper in the next summer or two. Will stay with the plastic hose going down the hill to the pump house and lake. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Generator Question How about an outbuilding with only 2 wire service - hot and neutral - for 120V? Should I also have a ground rod? That is the situation with the pumphouse at the lake. That's old enough that the pump/motor is probably well-grounded through the metal pipe to the water. Unless somebody has re-plumbed it recently with PVC. Will the aluminum boat in the water scenario just result in the plug refusing to deliver any power or will it work reliably? If it's already 'tickling' you, it'll pop immediately. As it's supposed to in order to save your life! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
As a 16 y/o dad discovered I had learned from Frank Cannon how to use the auxillary/emergency brake on the '69 Lincoln (it had a pedal on the left similar to the accelerator pedal with automatic release) to do a 180 turn (much to the amusement of peers). That was when I learned the cost of Michelin LR78/15 radials. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:28:20 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB
I'm glad I missed that season with Donna Reed as Miss Elle. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:42:23 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB What about that season where they used whats her name to play Miss Ellie? Geez, that was stupid. The show really go stupid toward the end --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB I quite watching after Jock died. (I worked for a guy who owned a franchise of Holiday Inns who was a course but likable guy could have been his twin. He was a difficult man to work for, though.) Anyway, when Miss Elle married Clayton Farlow, I just couldn't get past the actor, Howard Keel from his MGM years in Showboat, Kismet, Seven Brides, Kiss Me Kate... I didn't dislike him but Dallas wasn't the same for me. enz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
The whole tab included replacing the imploded fuel tank and fuel sending unit along with new brakes, valve adjustment, and some other small repairs. In the holiday spirit I was just filled with season's greeting so I let 'em do the service which was due. Total was just shy of $1,800 which included $475. labor. I didn't question as there's a good trust there, but two tie rod assemblies were $110., two upper control arms $240. and drag link was $115.. From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:45:06 -0700 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild What were you charged if you don't mind my asking? I need front end work done as wellbeen putting it off. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild That's a process I just paid to have done on a 300D last week and have another in the shop this week for the same. :( From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:49:39 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild I have 2 cars that need frontend rebuilds. My CD and Dad's TD. Which way is better for the brake track rod mount and upper/lower control arms: by the book and remove the shock/spring with compressor, or another way? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
WOW, you paid way too much for parts. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild The whole tab included replacing the imploded fuel tank and fuel sending unit along with new brakes, valve adjustment, and some other small repairs. In the holiday spirit I was just filled with season's greeting so I let 'em do the service which was due. Total was just shy of $1,800 which included $475. labor. I didn't question as there's a good trust there, but two tie rod assemblies were $110., two upper control arms $240. and drag link was $115.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
My agent booked him twenty five years ago. I remember one of his standards, Deep Purple. Some of us old pianists never die. People just wish we would! It's pretty weird when you can estimate how many times you've played Misty at about $0.83 a pop... I figured once that I've sat on a piano bench in excess of 36,000 hours in the past thirty years. That was just based on performance time, not rehearsal. It costs more to have a tuxedo cleaned today than I used to earn per night. LOL From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:07:55 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Speaking of piano music, I am a big fan of Roger Williams. He is playing one of his 12 or 14 hour marathons next year in MO. Plan on going as he is getting pretty old and probably wont be around long. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
We had 3 a/c units hit at work a few months back. Just yesterday, a bishop in Argentina that works with us (we publish Catholic books) let us know that there is no point in calling as they have stolen the phone lines AGAIN - obviously for the copper. That was in Argentina. So, it seems to be a world-wide phenomenon. Chris Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had breakfast with my pastor last week; thought he looked a bit like someone who had a bad day or so. Turns out thieves destroyed 6 AC units from the church the morning before - including three we just had replaced for about $15k. $33k damage this time [$5k deductable]. From talking to the police it seems that is going on a lot around here. One church under construction in our area had 12 units demolished, replaced them, and lost the 12 again 2 days later. We have been trying to come up with good ways to make theft harder, but that is lots of $$ also. I'm thinking a large rattlesnake in each unit might do the trick. A couple of guys with a smoke wrench or a decent cutter can get into about anything. Too bad I don't have any use for 6 compressors . Is that sort of thing going on in the rest of the country also? My guess is that the thieves made @$600 on the scrap copper for all the damage they caused. Bummer. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 297k miles, and happy it is not made of copper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1 -1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2 -1985 300Dt, W123, Projekt-Wagen 3 -1984 300Dt, W123, Projekt-Wagen 4 - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dallas cars was Re: Gotta love MB
Tim R. wrote: I quite watching after Jock died. (I worked for a guy who owned a franchise of Holiday Inns who was a course but likable guy could have been his twin. He was a difficult man to work for, though.) I still liked it after Jock died because it was all about JR. the producers said that when the show was originally conceived it was going to be more about Pam and Bobby. JR was just going to be a bit player. But, with JR's popularity form the Who Shot JR time, they changed the show to focus more on JR. By the way, was the holiday Inn guy you worked for named John Q. Hammons? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Tim R. wrote: From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, Oh Man! There's another car I would love to have. The bandits TA with the Crazy Chicken on the hood. I always like the 79 TA in silver. It was the 10t anniversary (or maybe the 15th) and it was such a cool car. It had the 6.6 l engine and it had the lights on the hood scoop with the fancy metal dash. If I won the lottery, I would have a strange collection of cars. Several Mercedes (including a 600 LWB), an allante, The Bandit TA, a 1970 Roadrunner with the 440 six pack and a shaker hood, maybe a V12 Jag convertible, a 66 Olds Toronado, a 1970 Chevelle Convertible with the 454 (in Black), a 1959 Cadillac, a 1957 Chrysler 300C, and of course a 1957 300SL (gullwing), and probably more I can't think of right now. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
The 87 K30 crewcab dually I ended up with has turned out to be a pretty good truck for pretty cheap. The 6.2 isn't a powerhouse, but it does fine for what I need, as long as I don't get any hairbrained ideas about loading the bed with firewood, putting a heavy car on the trailer, and go out stomping duramaxes on the grade. Need the dodge for that. The truck used to belong to a friend. I remember it wasn't too happy pulling grades with a slide-in camper towing a boat... On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 09:19:10AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Yea, I like the 6.2. I sure wish I would have kept my firetruck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
I presume Luther has been around enough to know to use THE spring compressor, not just any spring compressor. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT
There are also places that do this professionally. My 123 300TD had much algae so I just pumped out the tank and changed filters. My 126 300SD (formerly pristine tank) got a slug of water somewhere and was filled with rust to the point that the in-tank filter clogged. I blew out the crap with a pressure washer through the fuel gauge hole on top allowing it to drain through the filter hole on the bottom. Then I dried it with a shopvac blowing in the top (gauge) hole and air/water exiting the filter hole on the bottom. Drying took overnight. I did this with the tank still installed but hoses disconnected. As a preventive measure, I use a marine biocide (form boat store line West) to suppress algae growth. But it's most important to keep water out of the tank by keeping the tank near full and avoiding questionable refueling places. I'm pretty sure I got all that water and probably a lot of silt in a rural gas station in eastern NC. Incidentally, a lot of diesel boaters use a special funnel that traps water and silt when they fill up but those aren't designed to fit a car's fuel pipe. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave H... Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 08:06 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT I am not sure how or where to get a fuel tank cleaned. ??? Is there a chemical I should be adding to clean up any algae that may be present? Dave H... -- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT Might want to get the tank cleaned and the strainer replaced at the same time - likely you have algae growing in the tank that plugs the tank screen around a quarter tank. Check the clear fuel filter -- I'll bet it's black with flakey stuff. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
Timothy Robinson wrote: The whole tab included replacing the imploded fuel tank and fuel sending unit along with new brakes, valve adjustment, and some other small repairs. In the holiday spirit I was just filled with season's greeting so I let 'em do the service which was due. Total was just shy of $1,800 which included $475. labor. The individual parts might have seemed a little expensive, but overall that is a very good deal for a complete front end rebuild plus other misc jobs. Certainly worth not spending 2-3 weeks working on it! Wish I had a mechanic around here I could trust with such jobs. The nearest one I know of is 3.5 hours away. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Yeah, as with much of stuff on TV/Movies, things are not as they seem. Tires on stunt vehicles (and race cars) have metal fasteners to keep the tire bead on the rim during hard cornering. Otherwise, they roll off the rim - as you probably found out. Bummer - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB As a 16 y/o dad discovered I had learned from Frank Cannon how to use the auxillary/emergency brake on the '69 Lincoln (it had a pedal on the left similar to the accelerator pedal with automatic release) to do a 180 turn (much to the amusement of peers). That was when I learned the cost of Michelin LR78/15 radials. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:28:20 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: WOW, you paid way too much for parts. And he paid only $475 for labor! Worked out in the end... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
