Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Curt wrote: With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Actually, you would. A J-code (the one without the EGR) 6.2L specs and drives very much like a 5.7 (350 cid) gasoline engine. But fuel mileage is easily 50% better. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
have spent $2310 less in fuel now than I have. However, I had to spend 4K$ for the ability to save that money. Everybody always forgets resale value. Gotta factor that in too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
I really liked derelict mercedes beaters as they are the only cars i know that can get the job done in such decrepit condition. I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
I can't imagine how low the Chinese aviation safety standards must be if the people don't even trust their own food supplies and kids crap in the streets of Peking. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:32 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Gateway to Tibet Daocheng Yading airport, 4,400 metres above sea level, opens as China aims to boost tourism and clamp down on dissentsnip. What would landings and takeoffs be like at this highest airport? Wilton? Other pilots? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Not really. I think that's an 50 to 80 amp fuse so the wires would have to be big enough to carry that and so would the switch. You should also add an inline fuse holder with a fuse on the wire going to the switch to replace the one you are bypassing. Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:05:36 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net What I meant was, interrupting the connection at the fuse. Using the relay to act like someone removing the fuse after starting. That avoids all the heavy gauge wiring. Isn't this a possible kludge? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Mechanical? Seiko 5 has been a good buy since the Vietnam war days. Orient Watch too, they're still made in Japan AFAIK, while the cheap Seikos aren't any more. I've got an unusual Orient automatic that I bought direct from Orient USA and never wore, would send it to you for $50 if I can find it. If you want something unusual, I'll let you have my 1970s bullhead Citizen flyback chrono for $100. It was a cheapo restoration from a watch shop in the Philippines, with replica bracelet, dial and hands, and they just gave it a spray wash and lube instead of taking it apart to clean and lube it, but it looks and runs decent. The honest Chinese stuff like Alpha is easily worth $50-75, I don't know what Alphas sell for now. Bagelsport, MQJ, or whatever names (other than Rolex) they're using now, are a bargain for $25 or less. A few years ago I bought a couple of MQJ Submariners and a variety of Bagelsports for $10-13 each on eBay. The bracelets, especially on the Submariners and the Daytona, were worth more than I paid. The best running of the lot is the one Rolex they sent me when I bought a Bagelsport. That illegal POS kept to less than one second a day if I left it on my wrist 24 hours a day, gained a second or so overnight if I took it off and let it cool down. The week I only took it off to shower, I think it lost 4 seconds all week. Quartz really opens up the possibilities under $100. I got a Seiko chrono for about $70 on a daily deal site a few years back, and you sometimes see the Citizen solar/capacitor powered (Ecodrive) watches under $100. There are some military style Chinese quartz watches on nylon straps that are good deals for $15. I have one in khaki I'd part with if you want. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? you need to be more specific. the $10 casio that bin laden wore is a good watch if that is all you are looking for On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
On 17/09/2013 5:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: A diesel isn't out of the question, but I'd like to avoid having to a steep learning curve with something completely new. A gas 350, or example, is something that will be very easy to manage without much new to learn. Ideally I get something that I just do a major service on, maybe brakes or some suspension, and then have it is be fairly trouble free for a while. Jaime The ultimate question is what you will use it for and my guess is that if you buy a decent truck, you will use it more than you think you might. If you truly think you will only use it sporadically, then I would agree that a basic 2 wheel drive Chevy will suit you fine. I bought a 1968 C10 (2 wheel drive 1/2 ton) with a 292 inline 6 and a powerglide in about 1985 for $750. It was a Plant Science truck from the local university and they put them up for tender. It was a bit rough but not rusty. I bought a junkyard seat and a rebuilt carb and put new tires on it and kept it until about 2 years ago and sold it for $1600. So, I had it roughly 25 years and sold it for more than I paid for it. In the intervening years, I put 2 or 3 or more exhaust systems on it, a starter, a few batteries, had the rad recored, and put a 2nd set of new tires on it, so I did not break even, but it was fairly cheap to own. It had no power steering or brakes and had the radio delete plate. It was pretty basic except for being sort of a heavy half truck. It had coil rear suspension with the half leaf overload springs. Sometimes I kept insurance on it year round and sometimes I let it lapse for the winter. Insurance was cheap on it too. I used it to haul stuff when needed. During the time I had it we built on to our house and I hauled a lot of lumber etc home with it from the local lumber yards. I rarely drove it on the highway very far from home although I did have it out to the cottage 2 or 3 times and that is 175 miles away. It was terrible on fuel and that was one of the discouraging factors. Also during the time I had it, I also had a Suburban for 10 years so I did not need the pickup for a lot of my lake runs. I only drove the pickup about 14000 miles in 25 years. It was handy to have if we had trouble with another vehicle and needed something to drive while fixing the other ones. It was useful for hauling away junk and for hauling in things like garden soil and gravel etc. It was a good truck but it was noisy and unrefined by today's standards. I thought seriously about fixing it up with some bodywork and paint etc but quickly realized I could buy a much newer better riding truck for less than it would cost to decently fix the old truck so I sold it. My wife and my younger son are still a bit miffed about my selling it but it was wasting away since we were not using it and it was sitting out at the lake for the last couple of years we owned it. My younger son is 6'3 and the cabs on those old trucks are not as big as the new ones. He really did not fit it all that well. I also considered it somewhat unsafe compared to the newer trucks with more modern amenities like air bags etc. After I sold my Suburban and subsequently passed on the 4Runner (that replaced the Suburban) to my son, I bought a 98 F150 short box regular cab 4X4 and drove it for a year and liked it well enough that I bouhgt the Supercrew that I am still driving. That was sort of the nail in the coffin for the old pickup as I passed on the short box to my son and we really did not need 3 pickups in the family and the newer ones were so much easier and more comfortable to drive. So, the gist of my long story is that a basic older truck can be useful and inexpensive if you are not going to use it a whole lot. If you find that you like it and use it a lot, you will end up swapping it for a better one. My earlier suggestion was that you bite the bullet and start out with the better one but you need to be the judge of that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Every time you start the car, you use a solenoid relay, which uses a small current to close the larger switch electrically to pass the large current required by the starter. I believe the suggestion of using a starter relay [stand alone, Ford style] to shunt current to the glow system is a very workable modification. All my Ford diesel trucks use almost exactly that same system as factory designed.. it works well. Thanks to the original poster of this work around. I plan to use it for the 300D just because I like having full control of glow cycle time by pushing and holding the switch. Grant... On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:36 AM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Not really. I think that's an 50 to 80 amp fuse so the wires would have to be big enough to carry that and so would the switch. You should also add an inline fuse holder with a fuse on the wire going to the switch to replace the one you are bypassing. Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:05:36 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net What I meant was, interrupting the connection at the fuse. Using the relay to act like someone removing the fuse after starting. That avoids all the heavy gauge wiring. Isn't this a possible kludge? Greg __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
You're not really looking at the numbers here, you're saying 20 isn't that much more than 15 but it is 33 1/3% after all. In reality you've made my point again, you've got a 12 year old truck you've driven 66k, not even 6k a year, you're not a diesel truck person. A diesel person drives 25,000 miles or MORE a year. Going back to Jamie I've been suggesting a gas truck from the beginning, something basic with maybe even a v6. On the car front, how much do you drive? The same equation above continues to apply except the Jetta and Prius are pretty much the same price. I happen to think the Jetta is MUCH more fun to drive, its faster, and handles better and if you drive mostly highway probably gets better mileage. If you drive mostly city the Prius is probably a better choice. OK Don will tell you the Passat gets better mileage than the Jetta (its also less prone to HPFP problems and doesn't go through a filter regen cycle although it does require DEF), is roomier and overall probably a better car for a couple grand more. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey Message-ID: 1379459051.36987.yahoomail...@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 True, but we're talking about Ford F-250's. ?There is not a significant mileage difference between the gas and the diesel versions. ?Mine gets 14 towing the boat, 15 on the road. ?A diesel gets 20. I was going to be out $4K up front. ? Maintenance on an F-250 Diesel is very expensive. ?At the 2001 price, I was just not interested in spending the extra 4K$. ?Plus I didn't want the cost of the huge air filter or the dual big batteries. So right now, using 3.45 for gas, 3.90 for diesel, pretty accurate where I am, and 66K miles, and 15 mpg for gas and 20 mpg for diesel, I get that I would have spent $2310 less in fuel now than I have. ?However, I had to spend 4K$ for the ability to save that money. I realize that it's not an amazing amount of money I'm saving 12 years later, but I've had absolutely no issues with the truck, gas works fine, I've pulled a 300TD from Atlanta to here, etc etc. Now if you want to look at little cars, I am thinking about either a new Jetta TDI or a new Prius. ?I am back to thinking about gas vs diesel, and your numbers have more validity. ?I've rented both cars, and find they are very similiar as far as utility is concerned. ?Now I have to make the decision about gas and diesel again. ? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
This surprises me, I was always under the impression the 6.2 was a bit under powered. I've never thought a 5.7 underpowered... It reinforces my desire for a 6.2 powered Blazer... -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:08:50 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 20130918010850.37350...@jasper.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt wrote: With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Actually, you would. A J-code (the one without the EGR) 6.2L specs and drives very much like a 5.7 (350 cid) gasoline engine. But fuel mileage is easily 50% better. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 94, Issue 194
I like to look at it the easy way, 30 miles for $3.65 is right at 12 cents/mile. 40 miles at $4 is 10 cents/mile. Gas would cost 2 cents more per mile so if each car were to go 30 miles that would cost you 60 cents more for the gas. Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:37:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com So far north of gas? I got my aunt with this the other day, they have a diesel Passat and a gasser Volvo. We talked it out and if you aim low on the Passat and say 40mpg and say 30mpg on the Volvo which is probably slightly optimistic that gives the Passat a 33% advantage right? If gas is $3.65 and diesel is $4 (and thats a bad spread, its not as bad here) thats 35 cents difference or around 9%. So my contention is that you spend an extra 9 cents to save 33. You don't have to hit me twice with a stick... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
Same IAS (indicated airspeed) but higher true airspeed (TAS) and higher ground speed; longer landing roll; longer take off run. I don't really have much experience at high altitude airports. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport Gateway to Tibet Daocheng Yading airport, 4,400 metres above sea level, opens as China aims to boost tourism and clamp down on dissentsnip. What would landings and takeoffs be like at this highest airport? Wilton? Other pilots? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
I think I occasionally few a '64 182 at 13.5 or so. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport My Cessna will barely get that high, I don't think a take-off is feasible for it. I think Rich is correct - just get it off the side of the mountian, and fall until you get enough airspeed to fly. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Set flaps, throttles at the firewall and hope you have enough runway. My dads cousin flew C-130s in VN time period, told me about hauling stuff into some airport in the Andes that was at a very high altitude, the runway dumped off the edge of the mountain it was on. Full throttles, stick back, run right off the end and start dropping until he could gain enough airspeed to start climbing. Fun times. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Yes, the wiring to the high amperage part of the (new simple manually controlled) relay would have to be robust, but that could be a very short run (nearby, under the hood). The actual switch on the dash could be wired to the low amperage part of the relay with lighter gauge wire. An additional in-line fuse sounds prudent! Or am I (very possible!) just not understanding how relays work? Greg, Who is no expert on automotive electronics, but trying to learn -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:36 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Not really. I think that's an 50 to 80 amp fuse so the wires would have to be big enough to carry that and so would the switch. You should also add an inline fuse holder with a fuse on the wire going to the switch to replace the one you are bypassing. Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:05:36 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net What I meant was, interrupting the connection at the fuse. Using the relay to act like someone removing the fuse after starting. That avoids all the heavy gauge wiring. Isn't this a possible kludge? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
Both the case and band are gold, but I'm not sure if the case is solid gold. I just realized I think I gave it to my brother a while back, but I'll look when I get home and see. It was very plain, had a sort of off-white or gold face with gold numerals, if I recall correctly. I don't wear watches, so I haven't looked at it in a long time. Dan On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: is it solid gold? i haven't been in the market for a decade but generally not much back then although they were nice watches of the era and vastly underrated today On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have my Dad's Longines watch from the 50s. Gold, expanding strap, nothing fancy. Does it have any value? Just curious Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s and 60s. If anyone is handy, my WIttnauer calendar SW watch needs a new mainspring. Repair or buy - let me know if anyeone is interested. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? you need to be more specific. the $10 casio that bin laden wore is a good watch if that is all you are looking for On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s and 60s. If anyone is handy, my WIttnauer calendar SW watch needs a new mainspring. Repair or buy - let me know if anyeone is interested. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? you need to be more specific. the $10 casio that bin laden wore is a good watch if that is all you are looking for On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
I have my Dad's Longines watch from the 50s. Gold, expanding strap, nothing fancy. Does it have any value? Just curious Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s and 60s. If anyone is handy, my WIttnauer calendar SW watch needs a new mainspring. Repair or buy - let me know if anyeone is interested. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? you need to be more specific. the $10 casio that bin laden wore is a good watch if that is all you are looking for On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
it's a good idea but make sure it's nice first On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I really liked derelict mercedes beaters as they are the only cars i know that can get the job done in such decrepit condition. I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
is it solid gold? i haven't been in the market for a decade but generally not much back then although they were nice watches of the era and vastly underrated today On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have my Dad's Longines watch from the 50s. Gold, expanding strap, nothing fancy. Does it have any value? Just curious Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s and 60s. If anyone is handy, my WIttnauer calendar SW watch needs a new mainspring. Repair or buy - let me know if anyeone is interested. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? you need to be more specific. the $10 casio that bin laden wore is a good watch if that is all you are looking for On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my head On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
i had a super lovely grand prize longines for a short while, but i dropped it on a tile floor :( my dad wore a hand wind wittnauer for many years On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s and 60s. If anyone is handy, my WIttnauer calendar SW watch needs a new mainspring. Repair or buy - let me know if anyeone is interested. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? you need to be more specific. the $10 casio that bin laden wore is a good watch if that is all you are looking for On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
The POH for my 1957 182 gives numbers for 20,000ft. At gross weight (2650lbs.) full power climb at 20,000ft. yields 90 ft./min. at 74 MPH IAS. At only 2100 lbs. you can get 385 ft./min.! Ground run for take-off at sea level is 555 ft., and at 7,500 ft. it's 965 ft. (highest elevation with data). I can only get around 40% power from the NA engine at 20,000 ft. The landing differences are not as great as I expected. At gross weight, and over a 50 ft. obstacle: Sea level - 560 ft. 7,500 ft. - 700 ft. roll out. The service ceiling is listed at 19,800 ft. in leterature, but there is no ceiling in the POH - I guess as high as you can get. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I think I occasionally few a '64 182 at 13.5 or so. Wilton -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Yes, you have it correct. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: Yes, the wiring to the high amperage part of the (new simple manually controlled) relay would have to be robust, but that could be a very short run (nearby, under the hood). The actual switch on the dash could be wired to the low amperage part of the relay with lighter gauge wire. An additional in-line fuse sounds prudent! Or am I (very possible!) just not understanding how relays work? Greg, -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
it's usuallly not solid gold but plated or filled. very few solid gold watches end up on the twist-o-flex! On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Both the case and band are gold, but I'm not sure if the case is solid gold. I just realized I think I gave it to my brother a while back, but I'll look when I get home and see. It was very plain, had a sort of off-white or gold face with gold numerals, if I recall correctly. I don't wear watches, so I haven't looked at it in a long time. Dan On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: is it solid gold? i haven't been in the market for a decade but generally not much back then although they were nice watches of the era and vastly underrated today On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have my Dad's Longines watch from the 50s. Gold, expanding strap, nothing fancy. Does it have any value? Just curious Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s and 60s. If anyone is handy, my WIttnauer calendar SW watch needs a new mainspring. Repair or buy - let me know if anyeone is interested. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? you need to be more specific. the $10 casio that bin laden wore is a good watch if that is all you are looking for On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bohemian, well, whatever..
Now that is funny. Reminds me of Tom Lehrer. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:17 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Bohemian, well, whatever.. With the recent mention of Feynman lectures I thought Craig would enjoy this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rjbtsX7twcsns=em Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: OK Don will tell you the Passat gets better mileage than the Jetta (its also less prone to HPFP problems and doesn't go through a filter regen cycle although it does require DEF), is roomier and overall probably a better car for a couple grand more. What do the acronyms mean? What does the filter regen cycle do? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 cruise controls
I use the cruise control on our '95 E320 frequently to keep to the speed limit -- after years of driving a diesel I find the quiet gas engine hard to maintain at a specific speed. I was driving yesterday with the cruise control, came to a stoplight, and then continued on. When I tried to re-engage the cruise control, it would not work. This morning, I drove the car and found that the cruise control did work. Is this something about which I should be concerned? Any idea wass causes diss? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
So Jaime is becoming a redneck:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's time for you to know this. jaime used to confide in me that he wanted to be you On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Jaime is just trying to be more like me. First he moves to the country (I think), then he needs a lawn tractor. Now he wants a pickup. Next thing you know he will have 80 junk cars in his back yard. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] watches
What about these, good deals for the money? Is the Seiko Hi-Beat considered reliable or fragile? http://search.ebay.com/321203028856 http://search.ebay.com/261284536180 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
You've got the basics of how it works but I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. Mine uses (I'm reasonably sure) 10ga which is a bit less (including insulation) than the diameter of a pencil. Not hard to work with. I know this works, its been working in my car the 3 years I've had it and the 2 or 3 years Dwight had it before me. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:12:43 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: 056101ceb492$4ab65010$e022f030$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, the wiring to the high amperage part of the (new simple manually controlled) relay would have to be robust, but that could be a very short run (nearby, under the hood). The actual switch on the dash could be wired to the low amperage part of the relay with lighter gauge wire. An additional in-line fuse sounds prudent! Or am I (very possible!) just not understanding how relays work? Greg, Who is no expert on automotive electronics, but trying to learn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Curt wrote: With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Fmiser wrote: Actually, you would. A J-code (the one without the EGR) 6.2L specs and drives very much like a 5.7 (350 cid) gasoline engine. But fuel mileage is easily 50% better. Curt wrote: This surprises me, I was always under the impression the 6.2 was a bit under powered. I've never thought a 5.7 underpowered... It reinforces my desire for a 6.2 powered Blazer... The C-code has less power (J and C are the letters in the VIN for the engine). It is used in the light duty cars. I believe the non-military Blazers would all be C-code from the factory, but I don't really know. There were two versions of 3/4 ton Suburbans, the one with high GVWR got the J-code engine while the lighter got the C-code. It seems often the cars were setup for max economy with long-legged differential gearing - which, of course, makes them slow. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
On Sep 18, 2013 8:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? It doesn't matter. I wear a digital Timex when I'm at home working in the yard or on cars. On job interviews I wear a '60s Seiko Sportsmatic 5 mechanical. I'd like to have something to fit in between: classy-looking, simple, but that won't crap out in a few months (as the Casio quartz watch I bought for $30 on sale at Wal-Mart did). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
Where? In silver spring? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diesel is cheaper here, believe it or not, at $3.89. Andrew in D.C. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: True, but we're talking about Ford F-250's. There is not a significant mileage difference between the gas and the diesel versions. Mine gets 14 towing the boat, 15 on the road. A diesel gets 20. I was going to be out $4K up front. Maintenance on an F-250 Diesel is very expensive. At the 2001 price, I was just not interested in spending the extra 4K$. Plus I didn't want the cost of the huge air filter or the dual big batteries. So right now, using 3.45 for gas, 3.90 for diesel, pretty accurate where I am, and 66K miles, and 15 mpg for gas and 20 mpg for diesel, I get that I would have spent $2310 less in fuel now than I have. However, I had to spend 4K$ for the ability to save that money. I realize that it's not an amazing amount of money I'm saving 12 years later, but I've had absolutely no issues with the truck, gas works fine, I've pulled a 300TD from Atlanta to here, etc etc. Now if you want to look at little cars, I am thinking about either a new Jetta TDI or a new Prius. I am back to thinking about gas vs diesel, and your numbers have more validity. I've rented both cars, and find they are very similiar as far as utility is concerned. Now I have to make the decision about gas and diesel again. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie So far north of gas? I got my aunt with this the other day, they have a diesel Passat and a gasser Volvo. We talked it out and if you aim low on the Passat and say 40mpg and say 30mpg on the Volvo which is probably slightly optimistic that gives the Passat a 33% advantage right? If gas is $3.65 and diesel is $4 (and thats a bad spread, its not as bad here) thats 35 cents difference or around 9%. So my contention is that you spend an extra 9 cents to save 33. You don't have to hit me twice with a stick... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 1379456364.48504.yahoomail...@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have a 2001 F-250. ?Got it new, love it. ?Diesel was 4K$ more at the time, and it just wasn't worth it, even though fuel was cheaper then. ?If you tow all the time for a living, then a diesel is a good thing. ?If you're buying a utility truck to go to the lake, pick up lawn stuff, and in general haul stuff around but not for a living, then gas is great. ?Now that the cost of diesel is so far north of gas, I am convinced my lil ole F-250 gasser was a good choice. Now I got 66K miles on it. ?It will still be here when the crematorium is messing with me (c: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
It doesn't matter. I wear a digital Timex when I'm at home working in the yard or on cars. On job interviews I wear a '60s Seiko Sportsmatic 5 mechanical. I'd like to have something to fit in between: classy-looking, simple, but that won't crap out in a few months (as the Casio quartz watch I bought for $30 on sale at Wal-Mart did). You like divers? Used to be able to get a Mako from OrientUSA for about $80 with a 50% off coupon, don't know what they cost now but 30% off coupons are common now. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/official-orient-mako-club-568233.html I don't know if Gary sold all his stuff when he moved to FL, but it sounds like I should go through my 'seemed like a good idea at the time' selection of new watches and find something for you. I've got a diver styled Pulsar quartz alarm chrono with pepsi (blue/red) dive wheel and Seiko 1/5 second movement on black rubber. Probably what you were aiming for when you bought the Casio. I think it's this one, but I paid less than half of that for it. IIRC the alarm doesn't work on mine, probably need to take the back off and make sure the speaker makes contact. http://www.amazon.com/B001L1RZH That Orient I mentioned would probably replace the 5 as your interview watch. It's stainless case, brown sunburst dial, I think it's on brown leather, with an unusual day/date complication. Instead of saying SUN-MON-TUE on the day wheel, says SUN-MON-TUE around the dial and the day wheel shows a red bar next to the appropriate day. The date wheel is the usual 1-31 numbers. I really like my black Seiko SND-195 1/20 second quartz chronograph for all-around wear. In fact, it's my avatar at watchuseek. I bought a slightly dressier white one with the same movement, SND-217, but never wore it. What do you think, Gary, $80-100 for a new SND on bracelet? MSRP was $295 a few years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my head On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
Arlington, VA but SS is probably within a dime of that. are you driving down for our weekend tech session at HBL in Tysons Corner? I will FW you the announcement. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Where? In silver spring? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diesel is cheaper here, believe it or not, at $3.89. Andrew in D.C. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: True, but we're talking about Ford F-250's. There is not a significant mileage difference between the gas and the diesel versions. Mine gets 14 towing the boat, 15 on the road. A diesel gets 20. I was going to be out $4K up front. Maintenance on an F-250 Diesel is very expensive. At the 2001 price, I was just not interested in spending the extra 4K$. Plus I didn't want the cost of the huge air filter or the dual big batteries. So right now, using 3.45 for gas, 3.90 for diesel, pretty accurate where I am, and 66K miles, and 15 mpg for gas and 20 mpg for diesel, I get that I would have spent $2310 less in fuel now than I have. However, I had to spend 4K$ for the ability to save that money. I realize that it's not an amazing amount of money I'm saving 12 years later, but I've had absolutely no issues with the truck, gas works fine, I've pulled a 300TD from Atlanta to here, etc etc. Now if you want to look at little cars, I am thinking about either a new Jetta TDI or a new Prius. I am back to thinking about gas vs diesel, and your numbers have more validity. I've rented both cars, and find they are very similiar as far as utility is concerned. Now I have to make the decision about gas and diesel again. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie So far north of gas? I got my aunt with this the other day, they have a diesel Passat and a gasser Volvo. We talked it out and if you aim low on the Passat and say 40mpg and say 30mpg on the Volvo which is probably slightly optimistic that gives the Passat a 33% advantage right? If gas is $3.65 and diesel is $4 (and thats a bad spread, its not as bad here) thats 35 cents difference or around 9%. So my contention is that you spend an extra 9 cents to save 33. You don't have to hit me twice with a stick... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 1379456364.48504.yahoomail...@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have a 2001 F-250. ?Got it new, love it. ?Diesel was 4K$ more at the time, and it just wasn't worth it, even though fuel was cheaper then. ?If you tow all the time for a living, then a diesel is a good thing. ?If you're buying a utility truck to go to the lake, pick up lawn stuff, and in general haul stuff around but not for a living, then gas is great. ?Now that the cost of diesel is so far north of gas, I am convinced my lil ole F-250 gasser was a good choice. Now I got 66K miles on it. ?It will still be here when the crematorium is messing with me (c: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
As far as I'm concerned the 6.2 is under powered. I've had both the 6.2 and the 6.5. Both in vans and the 6.5 beats the 6.2 hands down and they both got right at 20mpg. Mind it's still not great at pulling but it is better. If you get a Blazer try to find one with the 6.5 turbo on it. If the electronic pump goes out you can still put in a later mechanical pump for less money and be a lot happier. I'm just sad that the turbo doesn't fit in a van. I think my Dodge van with the 318 may have been better at pulling then the 6.2 but it also used a lot more fuel. Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:54:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com This surprises me, I was always under the impression the 6.2 was a bit under powered. I've never thought a 5.7 underpowered... It reinforces my desire for a 6.2 powered Blazer... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You've got the basics of how it works but I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. Mine uses (I'm reasonably sure) 10ga which is a bit less (including insulation) than the diameter of a pencil. Not hard to work with. I know this works, its been working in my car the 3 years I've had it and the 2 or 3 years Dwight had it before me. And well it should work. 10 gauge is rated for use in bundles in house wiring at 30 Amps. With an 80 Amp fuse, each of five glow plugs would take 16 Amps -- WELL within the rating. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Not acronyms, initialisms, unless you're going to try to pronounce HPFP which would be hard without vowels... ;) HPFP = High pressure fuel pump which is apparently prone to failure on the Jetta and Beetle from 2009 on although there is disagreement on how many. VW and NTSB say 1-2%, if you read some of the forums it might be as high as 25%. The theory is that our crappy diesel fuel is killing a pump which might be marginal to begin with. Smart money right now says to run a lubricity additive. Passat uses a different HPFP which is supposedly more robust. DEF = Diesel Exhaust Fluid, the oft referred to urea which, contrary to popular opinion is not refined from urine. The Jetta has a filter which fills with diesel soot after awhile, before its completely full the engine runs a regeneration cycle which shoots extra fuel through the engine and burns out the filter. Some folks report the car running poorly during that time, some don't, its hard to know who to believe. The Passat uses DEF and thus doesn't have the filter and its possible problems, this is also why the Passat gets slightly better mileage. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:54:03 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey Message-ID: 20130918115403.7b375e8bd31a3326c65b5...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: OK Don will tell you the Passat gets better mileage than the Jetta (its also less prone to HPFP problems and doesn't go through a filter regen cycle although it does require DEF), is roomier and overall probably a better car for a couple grand more. What do the acronyms mean? What does the filter regen cycle do? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
Whats the difference between C and J? Can you modify a C to a J? I don't want a 1ton pickup, I guess a 3/4 ton Sub I could live with ;) -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:14:39 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 20130918131439.51d65...@jasper.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt wrote: With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Fmiser wrote: Actually, you would.? A J-code (the one without the EGR) 6.2L specs and drives very much like a 5.7 (350 cid) gasoline engine. But fuel mileage is easily 50% better. Curt wrote: This surprises me, I was always under the impression the 6.2 was a bit under powered. I've never thought a 5.7 underpowered... It reinforces my desire for a 6.2 powered Blazer... The C-code has less power (J and C are the letters in the VIN for the engine). It is used in the light duty cars. I believe the non-military Blazers would all be C-code from the factory, but I don't really know. There were two versions of 3/4 ton Suburbans, the one with high GVWR got the J-code engine while the lighter got the C-code. It seems often the cars were setup for max economy with long-legged differential gearing - which, of course, makes them slow. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Don't forget the wire from the battery to the relay, its the same size so it carries the power of all the glowplugs. Fred gave me (a year ago) some seriously heavy (like 2ga) wire to make up a real wire from the battery to the glowplug relay but I never got around to it. Tomorrow the plates will come off my 240D and go to the Jetta. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:15:44 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: 20130918121544.2e209f330ac686c72897c...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You've got the basics of how it works but I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. Mine uses (I'm reasonably sure) 10ga which is a bit less (including insulation) than the diameter of a pencil. Not hard to work with. I know this works, its been working in my car the 3 years I've had it and the 2 or 3 years Dwight had it before me. And well it should work. 10 gauge is rated for use in bundles in house wiring at 30 Amps. With an 80 Amp fuse, each of five glow plugs would take 16 Amps -- WELL within the rating. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. OK! Now I'm really confused! It sounded to me like you were saying 10 ga. was not optimal for this circuitry: I rebuilt with 10ga (I think) which is the biggest my crimper would support. I have some much thicker wire (2ga?) but I've never gotten around to making more cables. Also, what I was trying to avoid with my idea was using 5 runs of heavy wire versus one run of heavy wire. BTW, is a solenoid the same as a relay??? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:08 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay You've got the basics of how it works but I Mine uses (I'm reasonably sure) 10ga which is a bit less (including insulation) than the diameter of a pencil. Not hard to work with. I know this works, its been working in my car the 3 years I've had it and the 2 or 3 years Dwight had it before me. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:12:43 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: 056101ceb492$4ab65010$e022f030$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, the wiring to the high amperage part of the (new simple manually controlled) relay would have to be robust, but that could be a very short run (nearby, under the hood). The actual switch on the dash could be wired to the low amperage part of the relay with lighter gauge wire. An additional in-line fuse sounds prudent! Or am I (very possible!) just not understanding how relays work? Greg, Who is no expert on automotive electronics, but trying to learn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
I really like quartz analog, but hate being stuck with a dead battery, especially while travelling. I also favor titanium, because...I just love metals and alloys that are very high-functioning in some respect. Titanium is light, strong, corrosion-resistant and friendly to the human organism. I bought a Citizen Skyhawk titanium and love it. I bought two more, one for each of my sons. I also like that Citizen will service them at reasonable prices. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told On Sep 18, 2013 8:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? It doesn't matter. I wear a digital Timex when I'm at home working in the yard or on cars. On job interviews I wear a '60s Seiko Sportsmatic 5 mechanical. I'd like to have something to fit in between: classy-looking, simple, but that won't crap out in a few months (as the Casio quartz watch I bought for $30 on sale at Wal-Mart did). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
if you don't want to mess up your old seiko 5, get a new seiko 5 i wear an invicta but i can't recommend them as they are vile people who treat their customers as garbage. it's sort of like the fact i fly spirit air. i just accept that they don't care that much and will screw me over big time every now and again On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sep 18, 2013 8:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? It doesn't matter. I wear a digital Timex when I'm at home working in the yard or on cars. On job interviews I wear a '60s Seiko Sportsmatic 5 mechanical. I'd like to have something to fit in between: classy-looking, simple, but that won't crap out in a few months (as the Casio quartz watch I bought for $30 on sale at Wal-Mart did). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
this is what i wear. they generally run about 100bucks but figure another 10 or 15 or so to get it regulated so it actually keeps time. the movement itself is good for a few seconds a day (less than 5 on mine) but no one regulates them so they jsut list spec as -20 to +40 a day http://www.ashford.com/us/watches/invicta/pro-diver/7048.pid On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: if you don't want to mess up your old seiko 5, get a new seiko 5 i wear an invicta but i can't recommend them as they are vile people who treat their customers as garbage. it's sort of like the fact i fly spirit air. i just accept that they don't care that much and will screw me over big time every now and again On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 18, 2013 8:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? It doesn't matter. I wear a digital Timex when I'm at home working in the yard or on cars. On job interviews I wear a '60s Seiko Sportsmatic 5 mechanical. I'd like to have something to fit in between: classy-looking, simple, but that won't crap out in a few months (as the Casio quartz watch I bought for $30 on sale at Wal-Mart did). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
I do know that the maximum certified takeoff and land altitude for the Boeing 757/767 is 8400'. 4400 meters is a whopping 14,436'. I wonder what type of aircraft they'll be using? On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:28 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I can't imagine how low the Chinese aviation safety standards must be if the people don't even trust their own food supplies and kids crap in the streets of Peking. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:32 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Gateway to Tibet Daocheng Yading airport, 4,400 metres above sea level, opens as China aims to boost tourism and clamp down on dissentsnip. What would landings and takeoffs be like at this highest airport? Wilton? Other pilots? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
One of the most 'interesting' takeoffs I've ever had is from Reno, NV in a fully loaded 727. I think we used every foot of the runway and watched the hotels go by out the side windows after we lifted off. All three of us were praying separately that we wouldn't lose an engine. BTW, Reno is only 4400' (1300m). On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:30 PM, WILTON wrote: Same IAS (indicated airspeed) but higher true airspeed (TAS) and higher ground speed; longer landing roll; longer take off run. I don't really have much experience at high altitude airports. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport Gateway to Tibet Daocheng Yading airport, 4,400 metres above sea level, opens as China aims to boost tourism and clamp down on dissentsnip. What would landings and takeoffs be like at this highest airport? Wilton? Other pilots? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 cruise controls
Possibly typical intermittent cruise control amplifier - cracked solder joints. CC in my '87 300D was doing that before I replaced it with CC amp from SDL a week or so ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 cruise controls I use the cruise control on our '95 E320 frequently to keep to the speed limit -- after years of driving a diesel I find the quiet gas engine hard to maintain at a specific speed. I was driving yesterday with the cruise control, came to a stoplight, and then continued on. When I tried to re-engage the cruise control, it would not work. This morning, I drove the car and found that the cruise control did work. Is this something about which I should be concerned? Any idea wass causes diss? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: watches
All this watch talk reminds me, in 2011 for our 10th anniversary Angie and I went on a cruise. We went to one of those everything you need to know about shopping talks where they told us about all the great deals on watches and jewelry. So we headed down to look at watches. I found an Omega I liked pretty good until I found out it was a $3000 watch. The best deals were supposed to be in the islands so we checked in Honduras, I found another watch I liked okay, turns out that one was $7,000! That year for Christmas last year Angie bought me a watch: http://www.bulova.com/en_us/watch/bulova/sport--2/96B113 its absurd, way nicer watch than I'd ever have bought myself and I have to be very careful not to go reaching into a car engine with it on. Mostly I wear it to work or if we go out to dinner. I've been working from home for a few weeks and its been on the desk... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
On Sep 18, 2013 8:37 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote: If you want something unusual, I'll let you have my 1970s bullhead Citizen flyback chrono for $100. Does it look like this one? http://tinyurl.com/lhxfha8 The honest Chinese stuff like Alpha is easily worth $50-75, I don't know what Alphas sell for now. About $120 for an Alpha Seamaster on eBay. Took me a while to figure out they're called Alphas because they're Omega clones. D'oh. Bagelsport, MQJ, or whatever names (other than Rolex) they're using now, are a bargain for $25 or less. Can't find either of those names on eBay. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: watches
Yes, Bulova still makes some very nice watches that are also good value. I bought SWMBO a nice one with a sapphire crystal for about $80. IIRC. I think your watch was also offered in Titanium and I was looking hard at that one. A little too much $$$ for me at the time. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:21 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: watches All this watch talk reminds me, in 2011 for our 10th anniversary Angie and I went on a cruise. We went to one of those everything you need to know about shopping talks where they told us about all the great deals on watches and jewelry. So we headed down to look at watches. I found an Omega I liked pretty good until I found out it was a $3000 watch. The best deals were supposed to be in the islands so we checked in Honduras, I found another watch I liked okay, turns out that one was $7,000! That year for Christmas last year Angie bought me a watch: http://www.bulova.com/en_us/watch/bulova/sport--2/96B113 its absurd, way nicer watch than I'd ever have bought myself and I have to be very careful not to go reaching into a car engine with it on. Mostly I wear it to work or if we go out to dinner. I've been working from home for a few weeks and its been on the desk... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
On Sep 18, 2013 1:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 18, 2013 8:37 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Bagelsport, MQJ, or whatever names (other than Rolex) they're using now, are a bargain for $25 or less. Can't find either of those names on eBay. What about this? http://tinyurl.com/p2glup ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Solenoids convert electomagnetism to mechanical motion - to open or close a valve, for example. Solenoids are also used in relays to open or close electrical contacts which act as an ON/OFF switch in an electrical circuit. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay The glowplugs can be 10ga, no worries there, remember as somebody else said its only 16a on a 4cyl. The one that really ought to be heavier is the wire from the battery to the solenoid which has to carry the whole 80a. 10ga seems to be adequate, in that its always worked for me but bigger is always better right ;) You can't get around 4 of those 10ga runs, gotta have one each to the injectors. A solenoid is a simple relay. 2 sets of contacts, one relatively low power which activates the other higher power. I *think* all solenoids are relays but not all relays are solenoids. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:25:57 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: 058901ceb4a4$e70f7830$b52e6890$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. OK! Now I'm really confused! It sounded to me like you were saying 10 ga. was not optimal for this circuitry: I rebuilt with 10ga (I think) which is the biggest my crimper would support. I have some much thicker wire (2ga?) but I've never gotten around to making more cables. Also, what I was trying to avoid with my idea was using 5 runs of heavy wire versus one run of heavy wire. BTW, is a solenoid the same as a relay??? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
The glowplugs can be 10ga, no worries there, remember as somebody else said its only 16a on a 4cyl. The one that really ought to be heavier is the wire from the battery to the solenoid which has to carry the whole 80a. 10ga seems to be adequate, in that its always worked for me but bigger is always better right ;) Any time you can go bigger, do it. Up to a 'stupid limit' of course. If I had #8 or even #6 for plug wire, I'd use it. Bigger than that and you get into connector issues pretty fast. Remember the older plugs that had bare wire running between them and a single feed from the end.. that wire was no bigger than #10 and prolly #12 in fact. It glowed red, too, sometimes. You can't get around 4 of those 10ga runs, gotta have one each to the injectors. If you're rewiring the whole thing, I'd seriously consider only one wire, jumping between plugs, feeding from the middle with #8 or so.. and have the jumper wire custom made on some copper washers for connectors on top the plugs, make it #6 or so, or even bigger. Then you have only one rail, not all the wires flopping around, and one feed. A solenoid is a simple relay. 2 sets of contacts, one relatively low power which activates the other higher power. I *think* all solenoids are relays but not all relays are solenoids. -Curt A solenoid is a coil of wire that has a ferromagnetic piece that moves based on magnetic field. Sometimes that movement closes contacts. Sometimes it allows air flow. Sometimes it controls fluid. If it is used as a relay, then the ferromagnetic piece opens/closes a set (s) of contacts that are rated at whatever you're trying to do with them ( hopefully (c: ) .. Interestingly some starter soleniods do both.. they have a mechanical component that slams the pinion into the ring gear, and an electrical component that applies power to the armature of the starter ( BA relay, if we're into alphabetisms LOL ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: watches
Lying in my jewelry case/box for many years are an Elgin wristwatch a brother gave me 60 years ago, a Mickey Mouse I bought at Disneyland 40 years ago and a Seiko Bellomatic I bought at the Anderson AFB Exchange 41 years ago; a Heuer stopwatch I was issued 53 years ago is lying here in my desk drawer; a master watch of unknown origin I was issued 53 years ago was stolen from my desk by a burglar about 10 years ago. The watches/clocks I use are: iPhone in shirt pocket, computer when it's in front of me, TV when I'm in front of it, Simon Willard tall case clock I assembled about 5 years and three 10-dollar Casio wrist watches, each with bands removed, band attachment points filed away and one glued to each of the following: Dashboard of the '87 300D, handle of walker and instrument cluster area of mobility scooter. Oh, 'also use LED clock on chest across the room while in bed; 'haven't worn a watch in 30+ years. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: watches All this watch talk reminds me, in 2011 for our 10th anniversary Angie and I went on a cruise. We went to one of those everything you need to know about shopping talks where they told us about all the great deals on watches and jewelry. So we headed down to look at watches. I found an Omega I liked pretty good until I found out it was a $3000 watch. The best deals were supposed to be in the islands so we checked in Honduras, I found another watch I liked okay, turns out that one was $7,000! That year for Christmas last year Angie bought me a watch: http://www.bulova.com/en_us/watch/bulova/sport--2/96B113 its absurd, way nicer watch than I'd ever have bought myself and I have to be very careful not to go reaching into a car engine with it on. Mostly I wear it to work or if we go out to dinner. I've been working from home for a few weeks and its been on the desk... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: watches
bulova actually is doing interesting things as a company, more so than most. they have gotten into the hardmetal/ceramic stuff that was previously nearly the exclusive domain of rado and have a sweep second quartz series called precisionist that professes accuracy of 10 seconds a year On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: Yes, Bulova still makes some very nice watches that are also good value. I bought SWMBO a nice one with a sapphire crystal for about $80. IIRC. I think your watch was also offered in Titanium and I was looking hard at that one. A little too much $$$ for me at the time. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:21 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: watches All this watch talk reminds me, in 2011 for our 10th anniversary Angie and I went on a cruise. We went to one of those everything you need to know about shopping talks where they told us about all the great deals on watches and jewelry. So we headed down to look at watches. I found an Omega I liked pretty good until I found out it was a $3000 watch. The best deals were supposed to be in the islands so we checked in Honduras, I found another watch I liked okay, turns out that one was $7,000! That year for Christmas last year Angie bought me a watch: http://www.bulova.com/en_us/watch/bulova/sport--2/96B113 its absurd, way nicer watch than I'd ever have bought myself and I have to be very careful not to go reaching into a car engine with it on. Mostly I wear it to work or if we go out to dinner. I've been working from home for a few weeks and its been on the desk... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
The glowplugs can be 10ga, no worries there, remember as somebody else said its only 16a on a 4cyl. The one that really ought to be heavier is the wire from the battery to the solenoid which has to carry the whole 80a. 10ga seems to be adequate, in that its always worked for me but bigger is always better right ;) You can't get around 4 of those 10ga runs, gotta have one each to the injectors. A solenoid is a simple relay. 2 sets of contacts, one relatively low power which activates the other higher power. I *think* all solenoids are relays but not all relays are solenoids. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:25:57 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: 058901ceb4a4$e70f7830$b52e6890$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. OK! Now I'm really confused! It sounded to me like you were saying 10 ga. was not optimal for this circuitry: I rebuilt with 10ga (I think) which is the biggest my crimper would support. I have some much thicker wire (2ga?) but I've never gotten around to making more cables. Also, what I was trying to avoid with my idea was using 5 runs of heavy wire versus one run of heavy wire. BTW, is a solenoid the same as a relay??? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
During the bad old days of the cold war, KC-135s on alert were fully fueled. During taxi the crew computed the max takeoff weight (based on pressure altitude and temp) and the boomer hosed the requisite offload out the back before taxiing onto the active runway. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport One of the most 'interesting' takeoffs I've ever had is from Reno, NV in a fully loaded 727. I think we used every foot of the runway and watched the hotels go by out the side windows after we lifted off. All three of us were praying separately that we wouldn't lose an engine. BTW, Reno is only 4400' (1300m). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
why are you pretty sure of that? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my head On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
On Sep 18, 2013 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( You talking about the CL 280SEL I posted in the SF Bay area? There was an engine photo -- it was clearly a V-8. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
On Sep 18, 2013 1:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 18, 2013 8:37 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Bagelsport, MQJ, or whatever names (other than Rolex) they're using now, are a bargain for $25 or less. Can't find either of those names on eBay. Here's the MQJ sub, but this one has the Bagelsport name on it: http://search.ebay.com/121151996531 I bought a few from this seller back in the day. http://search.ebay.com/400574862241 The last one I bought, with MQJ mountain logo on it, stops when you screw the crown down. I need to swap stems with my other one and see if that's the problem. What about this? http://tinyurl.com/p2glup _ Linky no workie. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
Congratulations! LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 9/16/2013 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine, volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam! Now I have to find a relay. Bob R On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: 10 volts would be just about one cell dead. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
'Nother ATTABOY. Wilt - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery Congratulations! LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 9/16/2013 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine, volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam! Now I have to find a relay. Bob R On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: 10 volts would be just about one cell dead. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
Curt wrote: You're not really looking at the numbers here, you're saying 20 isn't that much more than 15 but it is 33 1/3% after all. In reality you've made my point again, you've got a 12 year old truck you've driven 66k, not even 6k a year, you're not a diesel truck person. A diesel person drives 25,000 miles or MORE a year. I disagree here. *smiles* A diesel person is one who chooses to drive a diesel. Someone using economics only for making a purchase choice may need to drive that much per year to make diesel a good choice. A true diesel person will buy and drive diesel powered vehicles even if it cost me more to do so. That's me. *grin* Money is a factor in my choice, but it is not the primary factor. -- Philip, diesel fan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
was that an employer provided policy or direct purchase? I also have BCBS thru my wife's employer - the VA system (Dept of Vet Affairs) so I have n idea whether we are exempt or not. I did hear spouses on policies can be dropped. It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless, unelected bureaucrats. aren;t we lucky?? LarryT On 9/15/2013 10:45 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be non-renewed. Thanks Obummer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Curt wrote: You've got the basics of how it works but I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. Mine uses (I'm reasonably sure) 10ga which is a bit less (including insulation) than the diameter of a pencil. Not hard to work with. I know this works, its been working in my car the 3 years I've had it and the 2 or 3 years Dwight had it before me. The line to each glow plug can be 12 AWG. The line carrying _all_ should be bigger. 6 AWG is equal to four 12 AWG. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
I recall seeing or hearing about one but am not betting the proverbial farm on it. On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: why are you pretty sure of that? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my head On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
i don't think there are any 6s that were officially 1973 108s. in 72, yes, all sorts but in 73 they went to the 116 and the 108s were all 4.5 liter V8 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I recall seeing or hearing about one but am not betting the proverbial farm on it. On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: why are you pretty sure of that? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my head On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
On Sep 18, 2013 2:26 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote: On Sep 18, 2013 1:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the MQJ sub, but this one has the Bagelsport name on it: http://search.ebay.com/121151996531 That looks nice for the price. I'm not going to waste $20 on a watch made in mainland China if I can get one made in Hong Kong for only $15 more. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told
m...@voyager.net wrote: I've got a diver styled Pulsar quartz alarm chrono with pepsi (blue/red) dive bezel and Seiko 1/5 second movement on black rubber. Probably what you were aiming for when you bought the Casio. I think it's this one, but I paid less than half of that for it. IIRC the alarm doesn't work on mine, probably need to take the back off and make sure the speaker makes contact. http://www.amazon.com/B001L1RZH Oops, bad link. And it is the exact watch I have, I just never liked it as much as my Seiko so didn't see any point in wearing it. http://www.amazon.com/Pulsar-PF3683-Alarm-Chronograph-Urethan/dp/B001L1RZHI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:01:50 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: During the bad old days of the cold war, KC-135s on alert were fully fueled. During taxi the crew computed the max takeoff weight (based on pressure altitude and temp) and the boomer hosed the requisite offload out the back before taxiing onto the active runway. I'm sure they wouldn't get away with that nowadays. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: Remember the older plugs that had bare wire running between them and a single feed from the end.. that wire was no bigger than #10 and prolly #12 in fact. It glowed red, too, sometimes. That wire was not ordinary copper wire, it was nichrome resistance wire and was puposely designed into the circuit to keep the current to a reasonable value. That wire was also why the series-loop-style glow plugs were not very efficient: most of the heat generated by the huge drain from the battery was generated OUTSIDE of the cylinders. The parallel-style glow plugs put virtually all of the heat generated INSIDE the cylinders, where it will do good. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Ah! I see now, you are saying wire a starter solenoid in place of the fuse. In that case yes you are correct. I thought you were saying to run the heavy wires to a switch in place of the fuse on the original relay to act like removing the fuse. putting the solenoid in that way would work as long as the original relay still makes a contact on the high amp side. Who knows how long that will be the case. Much better to simply replace the original with the starter solenoid right off and not have to do that later. Well unless you plan to put a new glowplug relay in at some later date when they come down in price. Like that will ever happen. Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:12:43 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net Yes, the wiring to the high amperage part of the (new simple manually controlled) relay would have to be robust, but that could be a very short run (nearby, under the hood). The actual switch on the dash could be wired to the low amperage part of the relay with lighter gauge wire. An additional in-line fuse sounds prudent! Or am I (very possible!) just not understanding how relays work? Greg, Who is no expert on automotive electronics, but trying to learn -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:36 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Not really. I think that's an 50 to 80 amp fuse so the wires would have to be big enough to carry that and so would the switch. You should also add an inline fuse holder with a fuse on the wire going to the switch to replace the one you are bypassing. Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:05:36 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net What I meant was, interrupting the connection at the fuse. Using the relay to act like someone removing the fuse after starting. That avoids all the heavy gauge wiring. Isn't this a possible kludge? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great
So my 99 E430 would not run. Well, it would run but after it warmed up you could not get it to rev up. I pulled the codes and had a few random ones but nothing that was turning on the check engine light. One of them was a MAF code and a pressure sensor code. So Ok, I though well its got to be fuel related. So, I replaced the fuel filter, it seemed to need it but did not cure the problem. Ok, so now I am thinking maybe the cat is plugged up because I have had the cat rattle for a while. Ordered a complete bosal right side front exhaust section with the 2 cats and installed it, rattle is gone but still have the problem. Hooked up SDS again and pulled codes, still no check engine light but I get the maf and pressure sensor code again. Figured out the pressure sensor, the vacuum line had split and come off at the map sensor that connects to the manifold. Replaced that, still had problem. Priced MAF sensors, Bosch was $160 and up, searching ebay turned up all sorts of sellers selling brand new ones from anywhere from $22 free shipping to $60 free shipping. I thought what the heck, so I ordered the cheapest one I could find from a seller that had good feedback, was $22 I believe. It got here today. Looked just about identical to the Bosch, installed it in about 30 seconds, fired it up and holy mother of god, the problem is fixed and that car has its warp drive repaired I guess. It had good power before it got to where it would not run but now it REALLY goes, so that MAF sensor must have been flaky for a while. So, I was surprised a $22 sensor would actually work. Lets see how long it lasts. I mean, how can they sell them for that? The $160 bosch seemed cheap to me considering they used to be like $4-600. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great
so why you complain about uro flex discs and ball joints then? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: So my 99 E430 would not run. Well, it would run but after it warmed up you could not get it to rev up. I pulled the codes and had a few random ones but nothing that was turning on the check engine light. One of them was a MAF code and a pressure sensor code. So Ok, I though well its got to be fuel related. So, I replaced the fuel filter, it seemed to need it but did not cure the problem. Ok, so now I am thinking maybe the cat is plugged up because I have had the cat rattle for a while. Ordered a complete bosal right side front exhaust section with the 2 cats and installed it, rattle is gone but still have the problem. Hooked up SDS again and pulled codes, still no check engine light but I get the maf and pressure sensor code again. Figured out the pressure sensor, the vacuum line had split and come off at the map sensor that connects to the manifold. Replaced that, still had problem. Priced MAF sensors, Bosch was $160 and up, searching ebay turned up all sorts of sellers selling brand new ones from anywhere from $22 free shipping to $60 free shipping. I thought what the heck, so I ordered the cheapest one I could find from a seller that had good feedback, was $22 I believe. It got here today. Looked just about identical to the Bosch, installed it in about 30 seconds, fired it up and holy mother of god, the problem is fixed and that car has its warp drive repaired I guess. It had good power before it got to where it would not run but now it REALLY goes, so that MAF sensor must have been flaky for a while. So, I was surprised a $22 sensor would actually work. Lets see how long it lasts. I mean, how can they sell them for that? The $160 bosch seemed cheap to me considering they used to be like $4-600. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
The 6.2 is the 240D of chevy, yes they are slow and probably considered underpowered by todays standards, but it will pull just about anything you want it to, just slowly. On 9/18/2013 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: This surprises me, I was always under the impression the 6.2 was a bit under powered. I've never thought a 5.7 underpowered... It reinforces my desire for a 6.2 powered Blazer... -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:08:50 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 20130918010850.37350...@jasper.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt wrote: With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Actually, you would. A J-code (the one without the EGR) 6.2L specs and drives very much like a 5.7 (350 cid) gasoline engine. But fuel mileage is easily 50% better. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:37:58 -0400 MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Ah! I see now, you are saying wire a starter solenoid in place of the fuse. In that case yes you are correct. I thought you were saying to run the heavy wires to a switch in place of the fuse on the original relay to act like removing the fuse. No, wire a starter solenoid IN SERIES with the fuse -- you DO want to have the fuse to protect things. putting the solenoid in that way would work as long as the original relay still makes a contact on the high amp side. Who knows how long that will be the case. Much better to simply replace the original with the starter solenoid right off and not have to do that later. Yes, but you still want a fuse in the circuit. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
So properly speaking the solenoid is a portion of a relay? -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:35:02 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: F4909059A6224FC187187BD507C5E5A9@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Solenoids convert electomagnetism to mechanical motion - to open or close a valve, for example. Solenoids are also used in relays to open or close electrical contacts which act as an ON/OFF switch in an electrical circuit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Series wiring would require much heavier wire than parallel and if one wire failed you'd lose all the plugs after it where with parallel you only lose one. Mercedes did series wiring at one point, gave it up for a reason and theres a reason everybody switches to parallel. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: 1379536921.89388.yahoomail...@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The glowplugs can be 10ga, no worries there, remember as somebody else said its only 16a on a 4cyl. The one that really ought to be heavier is the wire from the battery to the solenoid which has to carry the whole 80a. 10ga seems to be adequate, in that its always worked for me but bigger is always better right ;) Any time you can go bigger, do it.? Up to a 'stupid limit' of course.? If I had #8 or even #6 for plug wire, I'd use it.? Bigger than that and you get into connector issues pretty fast.? Remember the older plugs that had bare wire running between them and a single feed from the end.. that wire was no bigger than #10 and prolly #12 in fact.? It glowed red, too, sometimes. You can't get around 4 of those 10ga runs, gotta have one each to the injectors. If? you're rewiring the whole thing, I'd seriously consider only one wire, jumping between plugs, feeding from the middle with #8 or so.. and have the jumper wire custom made on some copper washers for connectors on top the plugs, make it #6 or so, or even bigger.? Then you have only one rail, not all the wires flopping around, and one feed.?? A solenoid is a simple relay. 2 sets of contacts, one relatively low power which activates the other higher power. I *think* all solenoids are relays but not all relays are solenoids. -Curt A solenoid is a coil of wire that has a ferromagnetic piece that moves based on magnetic field.? Sometimes that movement closes contacts.? Sometimes it allows air flow.? Sometimes it controls fluid.? If it is used as a relay, then the ferromagnetic piece opens/closes a set (s) of contacts that are rated at whatever you're trying to do with them ( hopefully (c: ) .. Interestingly some starter soleniods do both.. they have a mechanical component that slams the pinion into the ring gear, and an electrical component that applies power to the armature of the starter ( BA relay, if we're into alphabetisms LOL ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport
On a taxi for a PRACTICE, SIMULATED wartime launch or on a wartime actual launch? 'Sounds logical for a REAL wartime launch, but for a SIMULATED launch? I was never launched on a REAL nuclear wartime mission (thank God); launched on SIMULATED such many times; don't think I ever took off behind a tanker, though, so I'm not sure what the tankers behind me were doing, 'but I never saw any evidence of dumping on the ramp.taxiways. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:01:50 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: During the bad old days of the cold war, KC-135s on alert were fully fueled. During taxi the crew computed the max takeoff weight (based on pressure altitude and temp) and the boomer hosed the requisite offload out the back before taxiing onto the active runway. I'm sure they wouldn't get away with that nowadays. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
As I was telling Fred a couple weeks ago Mercedes folks are enthusiasts, VW people are nuts. Diesel people appreciate a finely designed and built engine, gasser people are dang fools. Honestly though if I didn't have a highway commute I'd probably switch to a gasser. It doesn't take much around town with a diesel MB to carbon it up... -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:31:07 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey Message-ID: 20130918153107.5b12b...@jasper.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt wrote: You're not really looking at the numbers here, you're saying 20 isn't that much more than 15 but it is 33 1/3% after all. In reality you've made my point again, you've got a 12 year old truck you've driven 66k, not even 6k a year, you're not a diesel truck person. A diesel person drives 25,000 miles or MORE a year. I disagree here. *smiles* A diesel person is one who chooses to drive a diesel. Someone using economics only for making a purchase choice may need to drive that much per year to make diesel a good choice. A true diesel person will buy and drive diesel powered vehicles even if it cost me more to do so. That's me. *grin* Money is a factor in my choice, but it is not the primary factor. -- Philip, diesel fan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great So my 99 E430 would not run. Well, it would run but after it warmed up you could not get it to rev up. I pulled the codes and had a few random ones but nothing that was turning on the check engine light. One of them was a MAF code and a pressure sensor code. So Ok, I though well its got to be fuel related. So, I replaced the fuel filter, it seemed to need it but did not cure the problem. Ok, so now I am thinking maybe the cat is plugged up because I have had the cat rattle for a while. Ordered a complete bosal right side front exhaust section with the 2 cats and installed it, rattle is gone but still have the problem. Hooked up SDS again and pulled codes, still no check engine light but I get the maf and pressure sensor code again. Figured out the pressure sensor, the vacuum line had split and come off at the map sensor that connects to the manifold. Replaced that, still had problem. Priced MAF sensors, Bosch was $160 and up, searching ebay turned up all sorts of sellers selling brand new ones from anywhere from $22 free shipping to $60 free shipping. I thought what the heck, so I ordered the cheapest one I could find from a seller that had good feedback, was $22 I believe. It got here today. Looked just about identical to the Bosch, installed it in about 30 seconds, fired it up and holy mother of god, the problem is fixed and that car has its warp drive repaired I guess. It had good power before it got to where it would not run but now it REALLY goes, so that MAF sensor must have been flaky for a while. So, I was surprised a $22 sensor would actually work. Lets see how long it lasts. I mean, how can they sell them for that? The $160 bosch seemed cheap to me considering they used to be like $4-600. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Yes, it takes a solenoid to make the relay work - connect the contacts and relay power through it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay So properly speaking the solenoid is a portion of a relay? -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:35:02 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: F4909059A6224FC187187BD507C5E5A9@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Solenoids convert electomagnetism to mechanical motion - to open or close a valve, for example. Solenoids are also used in relays to open or close electrical contacts which act as an ON/OFF switch in an electrical circuit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay
Oh sheesh, it just occurred to me the high power side of my relay is hooked to the output of the old glowplug fuse. I burnt one last summer when the wire leaned on the exhaust manifold. I'd forgotten all about it. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:51:35 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: 20130918165135.aa6ff027e8586a106db02...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:37:58 -0400 MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Ah! I see now, you are saying wire a starter solenoid in place of the fuse. In that case yes you are correct. I thought you were saying to run the heavy wires to a switch in place of the fuse on the original relay to act like removing the fuse. No, wire a starter solenoid IN SERIES with the fuse -- you DO want to have the fuse to protect things. putting the solenoid in that way would work as long as the original relay still makes a contact on the high amp side. Who knows how long that will be the case. Much better to simply replace the original with the starter solenoid right off and not have to do that later. Yes, but you still want a fuse in the circuit. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
C is EGR, J is no EGR. All you have to do is swap the intake manifold. On 9/18/2013 2:23 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Whats the difference between C and J? Can you modify a C to a J? I don't want a 1ton pickup, I guess a 3/4 ton Sub I could live with ;) -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:14:39 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: 20130918131439.51d65...@jasper.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt wrote: With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Fmiser wrote: Actually, you would.? A J-code (the one without the EGR) 6.2L specs and drives very much like a 5.7 (350 cid) gasoline engine. But fuel mileage is easily 50% better. Curt wrote: This surprises me, I was always under the impression the 6.2 was a bit under powered. I've never thought a 5.7 underpowered... It reinforces my desire for a 6.2 powered Blazer... The C-code has less power (J and C are the letters in the VIN for the engine). It is used in the light duty cars. I believe the non-military Blazers would all be C-code from the factory, but I don't really know. There were two versions of 3/4 ton Suburbans, the one with high GVWR got the J-code engine while the lighter got the C-code. It seems often the cars were setup for max economy with long-legged differential gearing - which, of course, makes them slow. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
not until he starts getting some guns and dogs. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So Jaime is becoming a redneck:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's time for you to know this. jaime used to confide in me that he wanted to be you On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Jaime is just trying to be more like me. First he moves to the country (I think), then he needs a lawn tractor. Now he wants a pickup. Next thing you know he will have 80 junk cars in his back yard. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head gasket blew. seems to be 30 hours of labor so i went back to driving my clapped out 280CE., this car lacked any sort of creature comforts (the windows didn't even fully roll up) at all and got about 12mpg. when i wanted to do an overnight or day trip, i'd go to an enterprise rent a car where i had a deal where i could show up and take any car left on the lot 10 minutes before closing on saturday and return it same time monday for 20 bucks plus tax. there were always big vans and pickups available. sometimes they were all that was available so think about how often you really NEED a pickup truck and how much it costs to rent vs how much it cots to own full time and i suspect you will discover that renting is much cheaper than owning but renting doen't give you teh fun of playing with a new toy and that is probably what we have here On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:52:07 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID: CALHJ_1A+AceL3Rh-vZYhxkMcVs5VqOg+W3b+=aa-rfpenpu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last forever. Newer Diesels, such as my Powerstroke(with exception to the Cummins), get worse mpg at around 15 or so average but with 450 ft-lbs of torque, who cares? Mike On Sep 17, 2013 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior
Re: [MBZ] OT: watches
I have the Bulova Accutron that my father bought at a pawn shop when it was about a year old. The substitute batteries work in this one, and it keeps reasonably good time. I like to let paople listen to the hum --- Otherwise, haven't worn a watch in many years either, and keep reducing the number of clocks visible in the house. None in the bedroom. I do have a couple of Omegas in a drawer, somewhere, and the Hamilton pocket watch my grandfather received when he gradualted from high school. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
well 73 was a weird year for the 108 anyway because the 116 was out then, did they have just a few 108s at the beginning of the year? I always heard when you see a 73 108 its really just a left over 72 108. On 9/18/2013 5:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i don't think there are any 6s that were officially 1973 108s. in 72, yes, all sorts but in 73 they went to the 116 and the 108s were all 4.5 liter V8 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I recall seeing or hearing about one but am not betting the proverbial farm on it. On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: why are you pretty sure of that? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my head On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great
Well, thats quite a different story, if one of those even fits properly to install and blows up while driving, you can die. if a cheap sensor goes out, just replace it. On 9/18/2013 5:46 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: so why you complain about uro flex discs and ball joints then? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: So my 99 E430 would not run. Well, it would run but after it warmed up you could not get it to rev up. I pulled the codes and had a few random ones but nothing that was turning on the check engine light. One of them was a MAF code and a pressure sensor code. So Ok, I though well its got to be fuel related. So, I replaced the fuel filter, it seemed to need it but did not cure the problem. Ok, so now I am thinking maybe the cat is plugged up because I have had the cat rattle for a while. Ordered a complete bosal right side front exhaust section with the 2 cats and installed it, rattle is gone but still have the problem. Hooked up SDS again and pulled codes, still no check engine light but I get the maf and pressure sensor code again. Figured out the pressure sensor, the vacuum line had split and come off at the map sensor that connects to the manifold. Replaced that, still had problem. Priced MAF sensors, Bosch was $160 and up, searching ebay turned up all sorts of sellers selling brand new ones from anywhere from $22 free shipping to $60 free shipping. I thought what the heck, so I ordered the cheapest one I could find from a seller that had good feedback, was $22 I believe. It got here today. Looked just about identical to the Bosch, installed it in about 30 seconds, fired it up and holy mother of god, the problem is fixed and that car has its warp drive repaired I guess. It had good power before it got to where it would not run but now it REALLY goes, so that MAF sensor must have been flaky for a while. So, I was surprised a $22 sensor would actually work. Lets see how long it lasts. I mean, how can they sell them for that? The $160 bosch seemed cheap to me considering they used to be like $4-600. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: watches
i used to have a lot of accutrons. there are parts issues and not a lot of guys who know how to work on them. i once considered investing in the tools and working on them as a hobby, but, like so many considerations, nothing came of it On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I have the Bulova Accutron that my father bought at a pawn shop when it was about a year old. The substitute batteries work in this one, and it keeps reasonably good time. I like to let paople listen to the hum --- Otherwise, haven't worn a watch in many years either, and keep reducing the number of clocks visible in the house. None in the bedroom. I do have a couple of Omegas in a drawer, somewhere, and the Hamilton pocket watch my grandfather received when he gradualted from high school. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
possibly, but if it was just leftovers, why would they all be 8s? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: well 73 was a weird year for the 108 anyway because the 116 was out then, did they have just a few 108s at the beginning of the year? I always heard when you see a 73 108 its really just a left over 72 108. On 9/18/2013 5:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i don't think there are any 6s that were officially 1973 108s. in 72, yes, all sorts but in 73 they went to the 116 and the 108s were all 4.5 liter V8 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I recall seeing or hearing about one but am not betting the proverbial farm on it. On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: why are you pretty sure of that? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my head On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com**wrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**pen/ctd/4064812140.htmlhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/**0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0kqi1bk5qwvnyx7/6cCSEHn_f2 -MMM- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/*** __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie
They probabably cant own guns up there in liberal land. I actually just aquired 10 more guns yesterday. I have 6 riffles and/or shotguns leaned up against my bedroom wall next to my bed while I figure out a place to store them because I have an overflow of guns. On 9/18/2013 6:13 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: not until he starts getting some guns and dogs. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So Jaime is becoming a redneck:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great
if htey are easy to replace, i'm all for cheap sensors. i think bosch prices are seriously ridiculous. what does an EZL for a 126 cost? like 2500 bucks? makes sense to just keep getting 50 buck knockoffs till somethig works On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Well, thats quite a different story, if one of those even fits properly to install and blows up while driving, you can die. if a cheap sensor goes out, just replace it. On 9/18/2013 5:46 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: so why you complain about uro flex discs and ball joints then? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: So my 99 E430 would not run. Well, it would run but after it warmed up you could not get it to rev up. I pulled the codes and had a few random ones but nothing that was turning on the check engine light. One of them was a MAF code and a pressure sensor code. So Ok, I though well its got to be fuel related. So, I replaced the fuel filter, it seemed to need it but did not cure the problem. Ok, so now I am thinking maybe the cat is plugged up because I have had the cat rattle for a while. Ordered a complete bosal right side front exhaust section with the 2 cats and installed it, rattle is gone but still have the problem. Hooked up SDS again and pulled codes, still no check engine light but I get the maf and pressure sensor code again. Figured out the pressure sensor, the vacuum line had split and come off at the map sensor that connects to the manifold. Replaced that, still had problem. Priced MAF sensors, Bosch was $160 and up, searching ebay turned up all sorts of sellers selling brand new ones from anywhere from $22 free shipping to $60 free shipping. I thought what the heck, so I ordered the cheapest one I could find from a seller that had good feedback, was $22 I believe. It got here today. Looked just about identical to the Bosch, installed it in about 30 seconds, fired it up and holy mother of god, the problem is fixed and that car has its warp drive repaired I guess. It had good power before it got to where it would not run but now it REALLY goes, so that MAF sensor must have been flaky for a while. So, I was surprised a $22 sensor would actually work. Lets see how long it lasts. I mean, how can they sell them for that? The $160 bosch seemed cheap to me considering they used to be like $4-600. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)
Good question On 9/18/2013 6:23 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: possibly, but if it was just leftovers, why would they all be 8s? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great
the new list sponsor is Autohaus AZ. They will sell Uro flex disks for $10 each, I get a kickback of $20 for each flex disk sold for example. I am not sure how that math works but I suspect cocaine is involved. On 9/18/2013 6:25 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: if htey are easy to replace, i'm all for cheap sensors. i think bosch prices are seriously ridiculous. what does an EZL for a 126 cost? like 2500 bucks? makes sense to just keep getting 50 buck knockoffs till somethig works ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 cruise controls
There are three failure modes for the CC -- bad amplifier, bad actuator, and bad speed sensor in the cluster. Typically a bad actuator takes out the amplifier due to excessive current, but the normal failure is either the Hall effect pickup speed sensor quits working (cracks) or the amplifier solder traces crack and it refuses to work. Mine all failed to pick up speed once in a while, especially if the speed drop was large, but if it starts to happen frequently, or the speed control starts to drop out frequently, very likely the amplifier is going bad. It is possible for the column switch to go bad, you can replace it without pulling the steering wheel. If it feel floppy, or was used too many times as the turn signal switch, it may not be making contact. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
