Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
I just finished buying car from Stefan Schultze. 1982 300TD Wagon. The car was definitely not maintained very well. He apparently is buying them and reselling on Ebay. The belts were almost nonexistent and we were lucky to make it home to Michigan without a failure. There was also a leak in the Transmission line he did not make us aware of. I noticed it when we got home and the fluid level was barely touching the stick. I added almost 2 quarts before repairing the line. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:56 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Maybe he didnt know the head was cracked. Brian Smyla wrote: Thanks, Tom. Well, I've got about $7K in the car right now, probably need another $2k to get it 'perfect', including paint. Yes, I believe the car is worth it, since I'll probably drive it much longer than something I'd buy for $30 - 40K at a dealership. You're right about the 'caveat emptor' clause, but my complaint is more along the lines of dishonesty within the classic Benz owners' community. Brian Smyla -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:57 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Brian, This all falls under the let the buyer beware clause. You should have done your homework on the car before purchasing it. I've owned 15 old Mercedes to date and I've put serious money into every good deal that I have bough to date. These days, I just figure that I'll have to put $2,000 into anything I buy. And that's after I check out the car and decide that it's in good shape. But you need to understand that I'll purchase an older Mercedes then I'll put 50,000 + miles a year on it. My latest Mercedes, a 1987 300SDL, cost me $1600.00 the first month I owned it. About this time last year, the transmission cost me $1760.00 but at least it got me home. I'm nursing a cracked head or bad head gasket and have been doing so for over 50,000 miles. Even with all of these costs, it's still cheaper than the rate that my Wife's new Grand Cherokee is depreciating and I won't complain. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Smyla Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump port. I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and was told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port on the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your replies. I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem with my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was missing, and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours checking the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left a plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket ( after arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't exist ), told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it wasn't under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem was in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's no vacuum on the port to start with. If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA. I'm not going back. Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove the replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts (motor mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure. And no, it's not worth going to
Re: [MBZ] Rusty
Welcome back Rusty! Good luck in your recovery, go easy at first. I went from 270 down to 235 as well. Mine was the result of colon removal and a 6 day visit at the University of MI hospital. Mike On May 18, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I'm back!!! 1/2 days for this week, not sure yet about next week yet. I highly recommend the new ICU diet. I lost 35 pounds in 5 weeks and plan on going for 25 more. So let's get those orders cranking, I have bills to pay! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] U.S. Cellular Field
You mean U.S. Cellular Field of course! On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: Are you going to Kaminsky Park? You meant Kaminski Park, no doubt - working class and all... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another day another wheel bearing
How hard is it replace race? Mike Sent from my iPad On Jan 29, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Does whup whup whup in time with the car's speed sound like a wheel bearing? I thought it might and as my wife and I both pointed to the right front of the car as the source of the sound I figured I'd give it a shot. This is on my '78 240D. The bearings looked merely okay and as they had both MB green grease and some brown (does MB green grease degrade into brown?) and as I'd already bought the bearings (Car Quest, $39 for the bearings AND the seal and they had them in stock last night) I figured I might as well get to it. I'm getting better at this, the bearing plus an oil change took just on 2 hours. Gotta take the dog for a walk, then I'll be able to see if the noise is gone, won't know definitively for a day or two though, the noise would come and go. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 with OM606 - how long to reach operating temp?
The fan probably needs to oiled (M1) if you can hear it a mile and a half from your house. :) hehe. Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: That is my experience as well. Heater blower kicks on loud enough to hear about a mile and a half from the house. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. I checked the heater control valve and found no rips or tears in the seal or diaphragm. I replaced the water pump and thermostat with no change. When I unplug the heater control valve I get full heat all the time. Any ideas? Would a bad fan clutch have any bearing on this problem. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
Thanks Max, Could someone direct me to the location of the service manual procedure for trouble shooting the HVAC on an 84 300D. Thanks, Mike P.S. The engine temperature remains very steady at about 100 on the temperature gauge throughout the heat fluctuations. Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Methinks your PBU (push button unit) may be to blame, but that is a guess. I doubt your fan clutch has anything to do with it. Even if your fan and clutch were completely removed, your thermostat should hold the engine temperature at 80+ degrees. Cooling would be negatively affected, not heat, by the function of the fan and its clutch. The service manual procedure for troubleshooting your HVAC has something like 20+ steps; it is a complex system but each component can be tested in a logical fashion. You've tried the obvious and typical failure (monovalve) and it sounds like you've established that is not the problem. -Max From: Mike Esh michael...@me.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 11:29:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. I checked the heater control valve and found no rips or tears in the seal or diaphragm. I replaced the water pump and thermostat with no change. When I unplug the heater control valve I get full heat all the time. Any ideas? Would a bad fan clutch have any bearing on this problem. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
He has a screw blocking the vacuum line. I wonder how he shuts it off? Mike Sent from my iPad L On Feb 11, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: But speaking of 300TDs that make me want to barf: http://search.ebay.com/110647241129 Black paint on the headlight surrounds and grill... i just don't understand it at all. I can only imagine what other modifications or improvements the owner has made to this one. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
Yes. How would like me to pay? Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but the thing will get stuck. It's cheap, the core that is. Testing is useless. Electrically that is. I got an old one. Looks good. You want it? On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I thought the monovalve failure mode (when no power was applied) was to go full open... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:30, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Mike, I'm more suspicious of your PBU now. If you did the power test, and found that removing power resulted in full heat, now you need to test the monovalve control signal from the PBU, to see if defrost provides zero power to the monovalve or if it is allowing some power to the monovalve. The peculiarities of monovalve wiring escape me now, but I think that the PBU simply provides the ground path, and cycles the ground signal. You'll need to verify that to determine how to test (i.e. do you test for a ground signal or a power signal?). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:19:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
And where do you live? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Pick it up. It's free. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Yes. How would like me to pay? Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but the thing will get stuck. It's cheap, the core that is. Testing is useless. Electrically that is. I got an old one. Looks good. You want it? On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I thought the monovalve failure mode (when no power was applied) was to go full open... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:30, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Mike, I'm more suspicious of your PBU now. If you did the power test, and found that removing power resulted in full heat, now you need to test the monovalve control signal from the PBU, to see if defrost provides zero power to the monovalve or if it is allowing some power to the monovalve. The peculiarities of monovalve wiring escape me now, but I think that the PBU simply provides the ground path, and cycles the ground signal. You'll need to verify that to determine how to test (i.e. do you test for a ground signal or a power signal?). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:19:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go
Re: [MBZ] Did a Wilton on my car today
sunday - 22 degrees and 14 inches of new snow here on west coast of Michigan! Sent from my iPad On Feb 21, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: And the biting gnats have emerged out here on the fringe of America. And the oak trees are spewing tons of pollen. Ahhh, spring! --R On 2/21/2011 1:59 PM, Max Dillon wrote: We're enjoying some very nice weather, about 75 with a nice breeze and sun, so time to get outside. Washed and waxed Blue (the '95), and decided to try out Wilton's trick of waxing the windows along with the rest of the car. The windshield, which is new, really seemed to absorb the wax (didn't haze that much with just one coat), but the side and rear windows hazed over nicely. I'm sure the rain performance will be improved, but I'd like to wait at least a week or two before I find out! Hard to believe I've owned the car for 1.5 years / 5000 miles and this is the first time I've washed and waxed it. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 280k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Zealand member
God bless you and yours. Be safe. Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:37 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Hi Gerry This is Fay - Hendrik's wife here. Hendrik is sure that the member in NZ is from Christchurch. His name is Euan. Christchurch is my home town I have family friends there. Two of my family members have suffered severe significant damage to there houses this time, but luckily everyone I know is ok. I am seriously considering catching a flight over there fairly shortly to support my nearest dearest. For anyone interested here is the weblink to the Christchurch newspapers: http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/ Us Kiwis Know that earthquakes are a part of life but the scale of devastation/loss of life injuries is very hard for me to comprehend over here in Oz. At this stage 80% of the city is without power, drinking water is being trucked in, most of the sewage pumps are not working liquefaction is turning the roads from passable to impassable from day to day. The Kiwi spirit of resilience lives on. Gerry Archer wrote: Is anyone in touch with the member in New Zealand? Does he live in Christchurch? Is he OK? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] UPDATE 1983 300D in my driveway
Congratulations and welcome. Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Okay - I bought it. $1250.00 Runs great - brakes are really thunky - but getting better with drivng. Has a huge vacum leak somwhere - when running the door locks and everything works, but once shut down it bleeds down pretty quick - and takes a long time to shut off with the key. Otherwise - lots of power. No real leaks anywhere. Very little rust. A little on the bottom of the passanger side doors and a little on the driver right behind the rear wheel. but solid everywhere. I amazed at how quiet it is going down the road. Going to try trickle charging the battery overnight - but think it probablly needs replaced, but hopeful it is just really dead. Any tips on where to start to look for a really large leak? Hints are that the heat is always all the way on, or all the way off, but no inbetween. Cruise doesn't work. Shuts off, but normally really sloww. Thanks guys - this is going to be fun. Peter On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: A 400 watt power inverter will run an MB block heater and a 110ah Marine battery will power it for ~2 hours. There are those who will tell you that the above won't work but they're FOS, its how I got my '83 240D started to go to work for 3 winters... -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:10:34 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPDATE 1983 300D Message-ID: AANLkTi=5t-lwgfqlxr9-ycsmsj6xsmub_gybc6bms...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay - I went ot look at it and play around a little. The Glow Plug Light came on for about 5 sec with a click of the relay the first time I turned the key to on - but never again. Doesn't seem to be glowing. Been sitting out for about 6 months. Very little rust. Not in a place where it could be plugged in at all. Owner' son pretty much wants it gone. Going to trailer it over to my house - plug it in for a while and see what happens. This is well on its way to being a pretty good deal. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thoughts on the Technical Companion book
I have had one for about five years and I think it is well worth the money spent. Mike Sent from my iPad On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Anyone have this book? http://www.amazon.com/Mercedes-Benz-Technical-Companion-members-America/dp/0837610338 Is it worth the price? (~$20 used). Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 rear bumper, was test
Are rear bumpers still available new or used? My 1984 300D had it's fall off yesterday. Michael Esh 231.894.5505 On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Not much activity today. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 rear bumper, was test
Looks like I can pick up one locally for 50.00
Thanks anyway.
Michael Esh
231.894.5505
On Mar 10, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Rich, which yard is that? I'm busy looking for a used OM603 head #17 or
later... maybe we (the OP and I) could work a swap of some kind?
Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles
'95 E300 280k miles
'73 Balboa 20
Charleston SC
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 12:32:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 rear bumper, was test
There are maybe 6 or 8 123s in the local knacker yard, a couple are
Yankee comeyahs but the rest are probably good Suthrun cars. There was
a coupe or two amongst them. Don't know what he would want for them, or
what shipping would be, but if you're interested Max could go get one
for you...
--R
On 3/10/2011 11:02 AM, Dwight Giles Jr. wrote:
Curt might have one from Hammie-he seems to be away this week. Also will one
from a 123 coupe fit a sedan?
Dwight
Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD 220K miles
1990 300D 2.5t 190K miles
Wickford RI
-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 rear bumper, was test
Are rear bumpers still available new or used? My 1984 300D had it's
fall off yesterday.
Mine ('83) did that, it corroded under the glue. I put on a used one from
the junkyard.
-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 123 rear bumper, was test
The item # I looked up is 230593805154. I asked if he had others for less money. Phone is906-322-0641. He is out of Rudyard, Mi Michael Esh 231.894.5505 On Mar 10, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike Esh wrote: Looks like I can pick up one locally for 50.00 Thanks anyway. Where? Do they have similar deals on W116/126 seats? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 rear bumper, was test
I just talked him and he said he does have two 126's. Michael Esh 231.894.5505 On Mar 10, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: The item # I looked up is 230593805154. I asked if he had others for less money. Phone is906-322-0641. He is out of Rudyard, Mi Michael Esh 231.894.5505 On Mar 10, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike Esh wrote: Looks like I can pick up one locally for 50.00 Thanks anyway. Where? Do they have similar deals on W116/126 seats? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 rear bumper, was test
I just ordered the 50.00 one. He will include the rubber pieces that go between shock and bumper. Shipping will be 33.00. Mike Michael Esh 231.894.5505 On Mar 10, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike Esh wrote: I just talked him and he said he does have two 126's. Say ya to da UP, eh! Somehow I lost track of the thread and thought he was selling 603 heads for $50, not w123 bumpers. I looked at his ebay listings, noticed he has a 300D 2.5 tranny for $100. Turns out it's got B2 trouble at the minimum. If weather/time/fuel cost permits a trip to the UP, I'll give him a call. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Are their two size rear bumpers for the 123's?
My rear bumper fell off last week. I just tried to fit one of my spares bumpers on to my 1984 300D and it is too narrow to fit on my car. Where did this narrow bumper come from? Michael Esh 220 Robinwood Drive Whitehall, MI 49461 michael...@mac.com (H) 231.894.5505 (Cell) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Are their two size rear bumpers for the 123's?
This posted very late for some reason. I figured out I was trying to put the front bumper on the rear of the car. It does not work. Michael Esh 231.894.5505 On Mar 8, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: My rear bumper fell off last week. I just tried to fit one of my spares bumpers on to my 1984 300D and it is too narrow to fit on my car. Where did this narrow bumper come from? Michael Esh 220 Robinwood Drive Whitehall, MI 49461 michael...@mac.com (H) 231.894.5505 (Cell) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 rear bumper, was test
I believe they are the benzboys.com. I have gotten a door from him in past. Michael Esh 231.894.5505 On Mar 11, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike, do you know who these people are? http://annarbor.craigslist.org/pts/2255753492.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What color paint?
Does anyone know what paint color to use to repaint the bunt wheels on an 84 300D? Thanks, Mike Michael Esh 231.894.5505 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] installing belts on '85 300TD
I ended up using a large round screwdriver to lever the belts over pulleys. Michael E. Esh On Mar 22, 2011, at 4:33 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: After finishing the valve stem seals replacement on my '85 300TD, I noticed some considerable cracking on the interior of the fan/drive belts and decided to replace 'em . . . stupid move, as there must be some magic behind being able to move the AC compressor enough to remove this drive belt. Anyone BTDT? TIA. G. . Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesel Powered 2 wheeler
EcoRider - Eco-Friendly Diesel Powered Vehicle Click on link above to see. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hard start problem returns
1984 300D 290,000 miles and running strong. Car starts very hard, sometimes not at all when I try to restart after driving long enough to get to full operating temperature. If I restart within a few minutes it starts right up. If I wait for 2 to hours it starts right up. If I try to start up within an hour or two it will not start. To get it to start I have to loosen injector lines and crank or manual pump until I get fuel to the injectors. During the winter here in Michigan I had no problem whatsoever. As soon as we hit 70 degrees plus it started acting up again. Is this a problem with the injector pump or do I have holey hose somewhere in the system? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns
Thanks for the input. No leaks at the pump and it is a newer style pump. Appears to to be pumping correctly however after manually pumping 30 times or more the vehicle will not start. After loosening the injector lines at the injectors I pumped manually about 20 times with no results after which I cranked with the starter and fuel began flowing from the lines within 5 seconds. Tightened the lines back up and it started right away. It sounds like I have a pinhole leak somewhere that I am going to have to track down, what a pain. Thanks again, Mike On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Air leak in fuel lines. He said it is not delivering fuel to the nozzles when the condition exists. As an aside, Michael, you don't need to crack the injection lines. Just prime it with the hand pump, then crank it. I had a similar problem with an S10 pickup, it was something in the ignition system but since your car is a diesel I guess it would not be a hot ignition module... You sure it is fuel related? Is the glow system working OK? Glow plug fuse? Relay? I replaced the relay on the 84 300SD with whatever that new thing is Rusty sells, a fast glow relay or something? Or maybe it is just a new version of the same old. Whatever, the car starts much better now. (Hey, maybe that is like the hot ignition module?) --R On 6/11/2010 9:24 AM, Mike Esh wrote: 1984 300D 290,000 miles and running strong. Car starts very hard, sometimes not at all when I try to restart after driving long enough to get to full operating temperature. If I restart within a few minutes it starts right up. If I wait for 2 to hours it starts right up. If I try to start up within an hour or two it will not start. To get it to start I have to loosen injector lines and crank or manual pump until I get fuel to the injectors. During the winter here in Michigan I had no problem whatsoever. As soon as we hit 70 degrees plus it started acting up again. Is this a problem with the injector pump or do I have holey hose somewhere in the system? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns
Car runs great! Cruises at 75 mph easily. In-line has one small bubble in it, and it does not seem to be pumping a stream of bubbles. Mike On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Also note that the hand priming pump only moves fuel into the injection pump, NOT out the injection lines to the injectors. You operate the priming pump about 50 to 70 times to prime the injection pump; you will know that it is primed when the noise changes and the pump action firms up. How does the car run once you get it started? Can you reach top speed or does it lose power at highway speeds? Watch the clear in-line filter - is there a stream of bubbles entering? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in the delivery valves can cause problems. If you get air out at the filter, you have a leak. 95% of the time, I find leaks in the hoses or clamps. Someone on the list reported air leak at the filter. I have had 2 cases of rusty cars having steel lines rust through. Fuel should leak out of the injector lines when you crack them. They should not be empty when you crack them. Cracking the lines could reduce backpressure somewhat to prime the plungers, but if you have a good airtight fuel supply, cracking the lines has little or no difference with a Bosch inline pump, after the injector lines have been opened. Newer cars have no provision for priming. You just crank the engine until it starts after replacing a IP or injectors, or replacing Injector lines. Your 84 OM617 in not much different, except that it has a priming pump, which is a great aid for troubleshooting the fuel lines. Thanks for the input. No leaks at the pump and it is a newer style pump. Appears to to be pumping correctly however after manually pumping 30 times or more the vehicle will not start. After loosening the injector lines at the injectors I pumped manually about 20 times with no results after which I cranked with the starter and fuel began flowing from the lines within 5 seconds. Tightened the lines back up and it started right away. It sounds like I have a pinhole leak somewhere that I am going to have to track down, what a pain. Thanks again, Mike On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Air leak in fuel lines. He said it is not delivering fuel to the nozzles when the condition exists. As an aside, Michael, you don't need to crack the injection lines. Just prime it with the hand pump, then crank it. I had a similar problem with an S10 pickup, it was something in the ignition system but since your car is a diesel I guess it would not be a hot ignition module... You sure it is fuel related? Is the glow system working OK? Glow plug fuse? Relay? I replaced the relay on the 84 300SD with whatever that new thing is Rusty sells, a fast glow relay or something? Or maybe it is just a new version of the same old. Whatever, the car starts much better now. (Hey, maybe that is like the hot ignition module?) --R On 6/11/2010 9:24 AM, Mike Esh wrote: 1984 300D 290,000 miles and running strong. Car starts very hard, sometimes not at all when I try to restart after driving long enough to get to full operating temperature. If I restart within a few minutes it starts right up. If I wait for 2 to hours it starts right up. If I try to start up within an hour or two it will not start. To get it to start I have to loosen injector lines and crank or manual pump until I get fuel to the injectors. During the winter here in Michigan I had no problem whatsoever. As soon as we hit 70 degrees plus it started acting up again. Is this a problem with the injector pump or do I have holey hose somewhere in the system? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman
Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns
Would leaking return lines cause loss of fuel pressure to the injectors after shutting down the engine? Mike On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, John Reames wrote: What does the closing cap for the return lines look like on the last injector? It's oft neglected, or worse, lost and replaced with an improper replacement. You can cut the old hose off the plug and insert it into a new short piece of hose. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 15:28, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Car runs great! Cruises at 75 mph easily. In-line has one small bubble in it, and it does not seem to be pumping a stream of bubbles. Mike On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC,53310 wrote: Also note that the hand priming pump only moves fuel into the injection pump, NOT out the injection lines to the injectors. You operate the priming pump about 50 to 70 times to prime the injection pump; you will know that it is primed when the noise changes and the pump action firms up. How does the car run once you get it started? Can you reach top speed or does it lose power at highway speeds? Watch the clear in-line filter - is there a stream of bubbles entering? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in the delivery valves can cause problems. If you get air out at the filter, you have a leak. 95% of the time, I ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Grease in rear hub
1984 300D - Just found an abundance of grease deposited in the drivers side rear brake hub. Is there a seal that needs to be replaced? How difficult is it to replace? Thanks in advance. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grease in rear hub
Thanks Everyone, I will contact Indy to get this job done. Mike On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: Grease in the hub can only come from the wheel bearing or the outer axle joint, and probably not the outer joint, since it would have to travel through the bearing to show up on the brakes. Time to change the wheel bearing -- pull shaft, unscrew retainer, drive out bearing, press new on int, re-install axle. Might not be a job you want to do at home. Peter -Original Message- From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Sent: Jun 15, 2010 1:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grease in rear hub Mike Esh wrote: 1984 300D - Just found an abundance of grease deposited in the drivers side rear brake hub. Is there a seal that needs to be replaced? How difficult is it to replace? Thanks in advance. Mike Brake hub? What's that? The wheel bearing is sealed. No easy access. A hard job that requires special tools. The axle shaft has oil inside the boot. At the differential, there is a seal for the axle shaft. Seal is easy to change - but the axle shaft has to come out first. This involves a bit more, but it's not especially hard. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns
That is exactly what it feels like to me. I will try to leave hood up the next time it heats up around here. Thanks, Mike On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:19 PM, MG wrote: Mike, Don't know if this will help but... I had/have the same problem with my 6.5 diesel in the Chevy van. Doesn't happen in the winter but starts in the spring and summer down here in Fla. Didn't happen all the time either. I finally came to the conclusion that it had to do with the fuel and where I bought it. I think that some fuels have a lot more light volatiles in them and so when you shut the motor off the heat under the hood will cause a vapor lock condition in the injection pipes. The support in your case is that when you bleed the line the vapors come out and the engine starts right off. Same happens if you wait long enough for everything to cool and the vapors to turn back to a liquid. The proof is to leave the hood open after you stop the engine and come back an hour or so later and see if it starts without any problems. At least that seems to have worked for me on the van. It's too hard to get to the injector lines to bleed them so I haven't tried that though I may do that some time just to see if that works on the 6.5 Manfred Mike Esh Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Car runs great! Cruises at 75 mph easily. In-line has one small bubble in it, and it does not seem to be pumping a stream of bubbles. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
I checked/replaced all connections and hoses and cannot determine where anything is leaking. Everything is dry and clean. I can actually see the fuel level in the clear filter level drop. I appears to be draining toward the spin on filter. Is there check valve somewhere that is allowing the fuel to drain back when it is hot. Is the injection pump going bad? I am getting so frustrated. Anyone within 200 miles of Whitehall, MI that has knowledge of how to fix the issue? I would be willing to travel to solve this. Thanks, Mike On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:21 PM, John Reames wrote: Check to see if your vent line is plugged... Either fighting to pull the filler cap or hearing air go in. I had an 84 sd that was taking on air until I blew out the vent line... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 14:05, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A stream of bubbles in the clear filter only indicates an air leak in the suction line. An air leak after the clear filter, in lines, transfer pump, filter, IP, or return lines do not indicate by bubbles in the clear filter. You can use the presence or absence of bubbles to focus your efforts before, or after the prefilter. If the hoses are old, OFTEN, there are multiple air leaks. If the hoses are all less than 2-3 years old, it is likely to be a clamp that is not tight. It is a good idea to change all the fuel hoses every 5 years or so. (yes the original hoses lasted 10-20 years.) I have not had MB replacements last that long. FLAPS hose is usually good for 5 years. I only use OE or OEM radiator hoses. They are still noticeably better than any third party hoses. Also note that the hand priming pump only moves fuel into the injection pump, NOT out the injection lines to the injectors. You operate the priming pump about 50 to 70 times to prime the injection pump; you will know that it is primed when the noise changes and the pump action firms up. How does the car run once you get it started? Can you reach top speed or does it lose power at highway speeds? Watch the clear in-line filter - is there a stream of bubbles entering? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in the delivery valves can cause problems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
Steel pipes and car are very good condition with minimal rust. I checked all connections on filter assembly and made sure all fittings had both washers. O-rings are new on the bolt for the filter. There are two of them, the lower one is smaller than the upper one. I hear nothing when operating pump manually. Could this be allowing fuel to return when the engine is hot and correct itself as the engine cools? No rising oil, I usually add a quart between changes. Thanks for the input, Mike On Jun 16, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Assuming that all the steel pipes are not rusted. .. Some fuel filters have o-rings on the bolt that holds the filter in place, older ones have an aluminum seal under the head of the bolt. I think yours has orings. Maybe someone else can say for sure. Air can leak in at these orings. Any loose banjo fitting at the filter can leak. The banjo fittings into the IP and out of the IP can leak. All banjo fittings are supposed to have an aluminum ring under the bolt head and under the fitting. Absence of any aluminum seal ring can allow air in the lines. There is a check valve on the backside of the IP at the exit line banjo fitting. It is possible somebody removed this. When it is very quiet, you can hear the check valve operating when you pump the hand primer pump. Do you have a rising oil level? It is possible, but very rare, for the IP shaft to leak fuel into the crankcase. I checked/replaced all connections and hoses and cannot determine where anything is leaking. Everything is dry and clean. I can actually see the fuel level in the clear filter level drop. I appears to be draining toward the spin on filter. Is there check valve somewhere that is allowing the fuel to drain back when it is hot. Is the injection pump going bad? I am getting so frustrated. Anyone within 200 miles of Whitehall, MI that has knowledge of how to fix the issue? I would be willing to travel to solve this. Thanks, Mike On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:21 PM, John Reames wrote: Check to see if your vent line is plugged... Either fighting to pull the filler cap or hearing air go in. I had an 84 sd that was taking on air until I blew out the vent line... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 14:05, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A stream of bubbles in the clear filter only indicates an air leak in the suction line. An air leak after the clear filter, in lines, transfer pump, filter, IP, or return lines do not indicate by bubbles in the clear filter. You can use the presence or absence of bubbles to focus your efforts before, or after the prefilter. If the hoses are old, OFTEN, there are multiple air leaks. If the hoses are all less than 2-3 years old, it is likely to be a clamp that is not tight. It is a good idea to change all the fuel hoses every 5 years or so. (yes the original hoses lasted 10-20 years.) I have not had MB replacements last that long. FLAPS hose is usually good for 5 years. I only use OE or OEM radiator hoses. They are still noticeably better than any third party hoses. Also note that the hand priming pump only moves fuel into the injection pump, NOT out the injection lines to the injectors. You operate the priming pump about 50 to 70 times to prime the injection pump; you will know that it is primed when the noise changes and the pump action firms up. How does the car run once you get it started? Can you reach top speed or does it lose power at highway speeds? Watch the clear in- line filter - is there a stream of bubbles entering? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in the delivery valves can cause problems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
Yes that is correct only the problem started about a year ago. Who is still looking for rusty lines and leaks in the system. Mike On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I don't know of a mechanism that would cause the system to lose prime when hot but then regain prime after it cooled off. That's not to say that it doesn't exist, but I'd love to hear how that works. Let me restate your problem to make sure I understand. 123 turbo diesel - OM617.952 engine. Cold engine - fires right up with no priming and 'normal' cranking. Hot engine - no start unless you operate the priming pump. Once running there are no other symptoms (power is fine, mileage is normal, idle is smooth). History of the problem - it has existed for years. Seasonal influence - problem is worse in warm months. Have I got it right? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Steel pipes and car are very good condition with minimal rust. I checked all connections on filter assembly and made sure all fittings had both washers. O-rings are new on the bolt for the filter. There are two of them, the lower one is smaller than the upper one. I hear nothing when operating pump manually. Could this be allowing fuel to return when the engine is hot and correct itself as the engine cools? No rising oil, I usually add a quart between changes. Thanks for the input, Mike On Jun 16, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Assuming that all the steel pipes are not rusted. .. Some fuel filters have o-rings on the bolt that holds the filter in place, older ones have an aluminum seal under the head of the bolt. I think yours has orings. Maybe someone else can say for sure. Air can leak in at these orings. Any loose banjo fitting at the filter can leak. The banjo fittings into the IP and out of the IP can leak. All banjo fittings are supposed to have an aluminum ring under the bolt head and under the fitting. Absence of any aluminum seal ring can allow air in the lines. There is a check valve on the backside of the IP at the exit line banjo fitting. It is possible somebody removed this. When it is very quiet, you can hear the check valve operating when you pump the hand primer pump. Do you have a rising oil level? It is possible, but very rare, for the IP shaft to leak fuel into the crankcase. I checked/replaced all connections and hoses and cannot determine where anything is leaking. Everything is dry and clean. I can actually see the fuel level in the clear filter level drop. I appears to be draining toward the spin on filter. Is there check valve somewhere that is allowing the fuel to drain back when it is hot. Is the injection pump going bad? I am getting so frustrated. Anyone within 200 miles of Whitehall, MI that has knowledge of how to fix the issue? I would be willing to travel to solve this. Thanks, Mike On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:21 PM, John Reames wrote: Check to see if your vent line is plugged... Either fighting to pull the filler cap or hearing air go in. I had an 84 sd that was taking on air until I blew out the vent line... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 11, 2010, at 14:05, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A stream of bubbles in the clear filter only indicates an air leak in the suction line. An air leak after the clear filter, in lines, transfer pump, filter, IP, or return lines do not indicate by bubbles in the clear filter. You can use the presence or absence of bubbles to focus your efforts before, or after the prefilter. If the hoses are old, OFTEN, there are multiple air leaks. If the hoses are all less than 2-3 years old, it is likely to be a clamp that is not tight. It is a good idea to change all the fuel hoses every 5 years or so. (yes the original hoses lasted 10-20 years.) I have not had MB replacements last that long. FLAPS hose is usually good for 5 years. I only use OE or OEM radiator hoses. They are still noticeably better than any third party hoses. Also note that the hand priming pump only moves fuel into the injection pump, NOT out the injection lines to the injectors. You operate the priming pump about 50 to 70 times to prime the injection pump; you will know that it is primed when the noise changes and the pump action firms up. How does the car run once you get it started? Can you reach top speed or does it lose power at highway speeds? Watch the clear in- line filter - is there a stream of bubbles entering? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion
[MBZ] rear axle bearings 84 300D 291,000 miles
Is there a good DIY article out there on how to replace the rear (permanent bearings) on an 84 300D? Could/should axles be switched from side to side at this time? Thanks, Mike Whitehall, MI P.S. Still working on determining loss of diesel prime on same car. Slowly changing hoses as time allows. Last effort will be changing manual pump and seal. Currently has new style and fuel is not leaking anywhere that I can see. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hendrik Fay - video for you leftie drivers
I love that laugh On Jul 10, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I was telling Hendrik about this little video when he was here. Finally I got around to finding it. It's an oldie, but still very fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShOaFfBfaK4 mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] rear suspension upgrade 84 300D
I had my independent garage owner, replace 4 rear control arm bushings, replace both axle bearings(one was leaking) switch sides on the axles, replace boots on right side(other side was new) replace subframe bushings Parts came from Rusty ! Thanks Labor cost $520.00 at 55.00 per hour. Seemed like a fair price, was he in the ball park? Ride is greatly improved and the rear steering and sway is gone. It feels great and I would highly recommend it. Mike p.s. still working on intermittent hard starting problems by replacing hoses. Difficult to diagnose because it doesn't happen all the time. Recently it happens immediately after shutting down, but works fine after sitting for a couple of hours. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hub Caps
I will Start the bidding at 20.00. Mike On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have 4 painted black hubcaps and 1 white one. These were on my cars at one time. Someone make me an offer I can't refuse. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hub Caps
As long as he is will willing to split it I am okay. heheh Mike On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Mike wrote: I will Start the bidding at 20.00. I think he charges $150 each for shipping... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Non-Mercedes related Good News
Very cool, hope everything works out. Mike On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Here's some news that is totally unrelated to cars. Many of you may know that my wife and I have been trying to have a baby for a few years. We went through a lot of fertility treatments and nothing worked. We decided a several months ago that we would like to adopt. We have been working with two agencies and two lawyers. Friday night we received a call about a possible adoption situation. That's the word they use. By Sunday, the agency called us about talking to the birthmother. On Monday night we had our first conference call with her. She is 20 years old and is 20 weeks along with a baby boy! We talked to her and got to know her a little. She decided as soon as she found out she was pregnant that she wanted to find a family to adopt the baby. After the conference call, the agency called us to say that she loved us, but she wanted to check the profile of one more family. (Of course, I suggested that the agency send her a profile from someone like the Mansons :) ). We thought we would hear back today on her decision. The agency sent her pictures of us today and she called to tell them that she picked us! So, we are now matched. The agency said they thought the pictures we sent made all the difference. We are a very handsome couple, so I guess that did the trick. :) I guess you could say, we are expecting. The due date is January 6th (The Epiphany), but she will likely have the baby early because younger mother's typically have them early and she had her first child early. Her first child is 18 months old and is happy and healthy. She has a clean bill of health for her and the baby. Her medical/mental history is good as is the father's. So, we are expecting and will be flying to bring home our little boy sometime around Christmas/New Years. We are very excited and even wanted to share the news with our Mercedes Friends! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Indy in Kalamazoo, Mi
Looking for a a reliable, friendly, reasonable mercedes diesel mechanic to help with my son-in-laws' 1985 300D project. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Not much luck at the dealership so far. Tried to schedule an alignment for the front end and they put us down for one month later. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1989 107 fuel injection question
My Indie is working on the fuel injection system of a 1974 Mercedes 107 convertible. Does anyone send or direct me to me any information regarding the fuel injection system in the car. He asked for a schematic of the electrics and theory involved with the fuel injection system. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Non starting 300D - Follow up
As some of you may remember, I had a problem with my 85 300D not starting after shutting down. it would start up after an hour or two, but not within that time frame. When watching the fuel filter I noticed it was draining back down and had what appeared to be a vacuum leak. I changed all the hoses with no success. I finally asked a guy at a Bosch Service Shop and he immediately said it was a problem with the lift pump. I purchased a new pump from Rusty and installed it yesterday. So far no problems and good starts. I will update if any changes occur. Thanks for all the input , Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '94 E420 Ignition Cable Question
That is a nice connection! On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:50:29 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:39:07 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: The part number for that terminal is A 000 159 14 38 Thanks. I ordered three of them from Rusty, along with a nut for the front anti-sway bar that I misplaced. I got the terminals and took them and the ignition cable to work and used a couple of the crimpers. The result is shown in the attached picture. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ignition.cable.terminal.3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 164194 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101014/591de81b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Alternator Failure? 84 300D
Hi Everyone, My alternator appears to have stopped functioning. I noticed a couple of weeks ago the ignition light flashing on and off very weakly when at idle. This only happened two or three times that I noticed. I hoped it was just a glitch, however over the next week my battery was getting weaker and finally would not start the car. The ignition light is not coming on or flickering at all now. With the car running a voltmeter test at the battery shows battery voltage only. About 12.5 to 12.8 after a slow charge overnight on the charger. I replaced the brush pack/regulator (thanks Rusty) thinking that would solve the problem, it did not. Belts are snug with no slipping. Before I pull the alternator is there anything, other than the alternator that could go wrong with the charging system that I can check? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator Failure? 84 300D
Thanks for the info. I will keep you updated Mike On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Before I pull the alternator is there anything, other than the alternator that could go wrong with the charging system that I can check? Is it plugged in? If the lightbulb in the dash fails, or there's a wiring problem to it, you will get no charging. You must see the light at key-on, or you do have a problem! But alternators also fail, don't be surprised. Not much to 'em, outside of the regulator. Four copper windings, nine diodes. Soldered connections. Iron. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Alternator Failure? 84 300D
I ended up replacing the entire alternator. Apparently it has a short or something wrong with it. Thanks, Mike Begin forwarded message: From: Mike Esh michael...@me.com Date: October 21, 2010 10:06:03 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator Failure? 84 300D Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Thanks for the info. I will keep you updated Mike On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Before I pull the alternator is there anything, other than the alternator that could go wrong with the charging system that I can check? Is it plugged in? If the lightbulb in the dash fails, or there's a wiring problem to it, you will get no charging. You must see the light at key-on, or you do have a problem! But alternators also fail, don't be surprised. Not much to 'em, outside of the regulator. Four copper windings, nine diodes. Soldered connections. Iron. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This week's fender repair project.
I make sure I turn down the radio and ask the wife and kids to be quiet so I can see better. Does anyone else do this? Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: How do you see out?? I find, as I get older, that I need more light than I used to. For example, I have a difficult time reading street signs in the dark and finding house numbers. There ought to be a requirement that houses have numbers that are large and lighted. I don't like having to walk up people's sidewalks in order to see what the house number is - and I am not really at risk of being shot like I might be down south where you are. I know that tinted windows don't help. I can usually see the street signs better if I roll down the window and look out without the glass, even though my windows are not tinted dark. Randy On 28/03/2013 3:17 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: My windows are tinted dark enough they would have a hard time seeing it. Dan On Mar 28, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 28/03/2013 12:04 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Actually, there are a number of ways to build things up with wood. Too many to get into here, but for example, I always save the sawdust from my cuttings until I am done Just got the raw walnut burl billet yesterday. Was caught up with a file server failure that has pretty much occupied the last 24 hours, so I haven't even opened the box yet... Dan Sent from my iPad Don't make the knob too nice or some lowlife will break into your car to steal it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More 300TD Tripping!
Good Job Rick! I too have been using WVO in my vehicle for over 3 years now and am very happy with results. Michael E. Esh michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Apr 04, 2013, at 03:11 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks, I just drove my 82 300td from athens, ga to Goodletsville, TN (just north of Nashville) some 300+ miles over Monteagle pass, twice, dragging a trailer!! I left tuesday afternoon about 1.30 and reached Goodlettsville about 6.30 pm local time. There, i picked up a 1000 lb letterpress and then i drove back south to Manchester where i spent the night. Today (Wednesday) i helped the Germans at Onderka Motors install a new center bearing+rubber+bracket on my propeller shaft. With their help we had it done in about 45 minutes. Then i got on my way and timed the trip to miss Atlanta rush hour traffic. I had rain from Chattanooga to Athens which was no fun I-75 is really dark and the white lines can barely be seen in the night and rain they have little reflectance and no reflectors either. It's not safe, dodging all the semis. Anyway, the trip was uneventful and i didn't see a single deer and non crashed through any of my windows as i like it. I ran the ac and the heat at various times. The entire trip was fueled by WVO. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Towing question???
When I used a tow dolly to bring my 84 300D from Chicago to Whitehall, MI (couple hundred miles) I could not go faster than 50 MPH without the car starting to whip back and forth. Be careful and take it easy! Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Apr 18, 2013, at 07:32 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Concur. Towing backwards doesn't work too well as the steering geometry may cause the steering wheels to oscillate side-to-side. That may eventually whip the Mercedes around so much that your tow vehicle will lose control. Going very slow may eliminate that. Not applicable on an MB, so long as you remove the key, so the steering locks. While front end first is desirable, rear first is ok, with the conditions i outlined. Roads with little traffic /few stops are preferred. There was a thread on one of the forums documenting a rollover of the tow vehicle (smallish SUV) that tried to tow a 123 sedan backwards too fast. The loss of control happened too quickly for the driver to react, and he became a passenger. As I said, Ideally, the tow vehicle should weigh at least twice what the towed vehicle weighs. With caution, what John proposes can be done. Slow and careful. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trying to get on the Okiebenz list
I purchased a pair of calipers from Advance Auto several years ago for my 83 300D. I have not had any issues with them. I do not recall the exact price however they were competitive with others in the area. Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 04, 2013, at 09:48 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I've had good luck with rebuilt calipers from Advance as well. Interesting about the lifetime warranty. I didn't know that! Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I had good service from rebuilts I got at Advance Auto. I think I paid around $80 each. I'd gotten them there because I was in a bind and needed calipers right away. That was my '83 240D which I then put 30,000 miles on. One caliper did fail but the guys at Advance swapped me under the lifetime warranty with no hesitation or problems at all. For everything else (rotors and pads) I used PBR from Rusty (now Trent) and again had no complaints. Might as well replace the front wheel bearings while you've got it apart. You'll want to at least repack them since you have to take them out to get the rotor off but I figure the bearings are cheap so on a new-to-me car I'd replace them... -Curt Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 20:48:17 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Trying to get on the Okiebenz list Message-ID: a06240816cdaa182b535a@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Call Trent @ 800 741 5252 tell im what you need. You can probably buy used calipers form car-part.com, or buy rebuilts at FLAPS. I would guess you need rotors. I would for sure replace all the hoses to the calipers. THose swell shut with age and/or DOT 3 brake fluid. Most likely you need a new master cyl also. Don't ever put anything BUT DOT 4 brake fluid in your MB. Unless you switch over to DOT 5. (silicon) DON'T use DOT 5e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices
$4.05 for diesel here in west Michigan. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On May 18, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: $3.859 today in Bethesda, MD On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Gas and diesel were both hanging out at $3.35 for about ten days, diesel having came down from $4. Yesterday, gas jumped to $3.55 and diesel has shot up to $3.65. Lovely. Bob R On May 18, 2013 7:14 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Not here in NY. Okie folks must be special... Mike On May 17, 2013 9:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: In ok right now diesel is selling about 30-40 cents cheaper than gas. First time I have seen that in years. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
Well it is summer again in Michigan and I am again having trouble starting my car after it has been driven for while. The story: Air temp of about 85 and I am driving my brother to the Grand Rapids airport from Whitehall MI. About a 60 minute drive 95% expressway. I am running the air conditioning and it is barely keeping up due to flaps issues. At the 2nd stop light off the xway the car stalls in the right hand lane of a two left lane turn, we are four cars from the intersection. This was at about 4:30 p.m. (very hot and lots of traffic. I immediately turn off the air conditioning and try to re-start. It cranks valiantly however it will not fire. I try several more times without success. I call for a wrecker and we begin to wait while parade waving to the passers by who are very unhappy with us. After an hour of waiting, I flag down a Clarion Hotel van and give him 10 bucks to drop my brother at the airport. I get back in the car and wait for another 30 minutes, trying occasionally to re-start to no avail. Wrecker finally shows up, loads me up on the back of his platform and we drive to another 15 minutes to his garage. I asked to use their battery booster and tried once more to start the car and lo and behold it fires right up and runs like a dream. I hop in and drive home with no problems. The car starts right up in the morning without any problems. As many of you know this car has been doing this in the summer for 2 years now. I do not have the problem in the winter. While waiting at the garage I loosened one of the feed lines at the injector and I did have fuel at the injector. Could this hot starting problem be caused the valves being out of adjustment? Any suggestions are very welcome. Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
New last year. New style as well. Pumping does not help it start. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 21, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: What! 85 in MI already? Summer's over already!? ;) Yesterday was the hottest of the year so far, and the first time I ever ran A/C in a house in May. Mike, how old is your hand primer pump? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
Yes, the clear pre-filter was full of fuel. I will pull vacuum hose and see what happens. I have never adjusted the rack damper bolt, is there anything I need to aware of so I do not make the situation worse Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 21, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike Esh wrote: (primer pump) New last year. New style as well. Pumping does not help it start. Grasping at straws, but was the clear prefilter full of fuel? I wonder what would happen if you loosened the rack damper bolt and/or pulled off the hose to the vacuum shutoff solenoid. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
That is an interesting theory. I have a Frybrid vegoil system that I have been using for about 35,000 miles. Most of the time if I shut down without purging the the vegoil with diesel it starts. When I purge and try to restart with diesel it does not start. I will try it when I get home from work today. Is there a way to test the pump while on the car, other than the cold water test. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 21, 2013, at 11:44 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Next time it does it, try pouring cold water over the injector pump. If it then starts right up, problem identified. IP is dying and the heat of summer adds to the clearances internal. Cooling it down closes up the worn tolerances and let's it run again. I'm betting going down the road on the back of the tow truck at 50 mph did the same thing which is why it started at their yard. Just a thought. Grant... AZ [where it will be 101 F today] On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike Esh wrote: (primer pump) New last year. New style as well. Pumping does not help it start. Grasping at straws, but was the clear prefilter full of fuel? I wonder what would happen if you loosened the rack damper bolt and/or pulled off the hose to the vacuum shutoff solenoid. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
I emailed them last year and they said to look for an air leak. I have not discovered an air leak and I have gone through system multiple times. They were not much help with this problem. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 22, 2013, at 12:33 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: probably should have started out mentioning this,... since it sounds like you have a problem when you switch to the Diesel tank, that's a clue that you should look there. basic; how's the fuel in the Diesel tank? fresh and uncontaminated? if the fuel's good, it sounds like something's wrong with something in the Diesel side of the switchover system. have you been able to get a response to this question from Frybrid? cheers! e On 22/May/13 04:28, Mike Esh wrote: I have a Frybrid vegoil system that I have been using for about 35,000 miles. Most of the time if I shut down without purging the the vegoil with diesel it starts. When I purge and try to restart with diesel it does not start. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
I tried that a couple of times. It did not help and heard no vacuum. Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 22, 2013, at 01:14 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Out of curiosity, pull the fuel cap off the diesel tank when it's hot... (Severely restricted/plugged tank vent?) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 22, 2013, at 12:49, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I emailed them last year and they said to look for an air leak. I have not discovered an air leak and I have gone through system multiple times. They were not much help with this problem. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 22, 2013, at 12:33 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: probably should have started out mentioning this,... since it sounds like you have a problem when you switch to the Diesel tank, that's a clue that you should look there. basic; how's the fuel in the Diesel tank? fresh and uncontaminated? if the fuel's good, it sounds like something's wrong with something in the Diesel side of the switchover system. have you been able to get a response to this question from Frybrid? cheers! e On 22/May/13 04:28, Mike Esh wrote: I have a Frybrid vegoil system that I have been using for about 35,000 miles. Most of the time if I shut down without purging the the vegoil with diesel it starts. When I purge and try to restart with diesel it does not start. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
O-rings have been replaced as well as the clear lines. Purchased thru Rusty last year. Thanks for the ideas. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 22, 2013, at 01:17 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Also on the subject of leaks, replace the o-rings in the banjo bolt of the fuel filter, and check the condition of all of the clear plastic fuel lines, or their replacements. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 22, 2013, at 12:49, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I emailed them last year and they said to look for an air leak. I have not discovered an air leak and I have gone through system multiple times. They were not much help with this problem. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 22, 2013, at 12:33 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: probably should have started out mentioning this,... since it sounds like you have a problem when you switch to the Diesel tank, that's a clue that you should look there. basic; how's the fuel in the Diesel tank? fresh and uncontaminated? if the fuel's good, it sounds like something's wrong with something in the Diesel side of the switchover system. have you been able to get a response to this question from Frybrid? cheers! e On 22/May/13 04:28, Mike Esh wrote: I have a Frybrid vegoil system that I have been using for about 35,000 miles. Most of the time if I shut down without purging the the vegoil with diesel it starts. When I purge and try to restart with diesel it does not start. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
I have a Bosch outlet locally and I will try them if I run out of other options.( I have asked them about the no hot start and they suggested the air leak. I will try the cold water test as soon as it warms up again. We are expecting low temps of 35 to 40 degrees overnight and highs of 65 over the weekend. It happens more often at temps in the 80's or above. I will also be replacing the lines and hose from the tank to the filter next month. Parts to be ordered from MiniQ. (: Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 22, 2013, at 01:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to test the pump while on the car, other than the cold water test. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 No. Only other test for IP is on a test bench at a Bosch fuel injection service center familiar with MB pumps. Not all are. MB keeps some parts and specs secret ,but some shops know how to get that info. But any injection shop with a Bosch approved test bench should be able to tell you is the pump is worn out. Some of them may be able to tell if it is really bad while still in the car. I'd try Grant's water hose test. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] one more reason to own a 1984 300D/ need pulley and/or pump
On the way home from work yesterday I heard a flapping noise coming from the front of the car. I pulled over and discovered the power steering belt broken and wrapped around the fan. The air conditioning belt had come off as well. The best thing about the situation was that the car was still drivable because the water pump belt was still intact! I love these cars! Adding to the parts order for today from Trent. p.s. In looking at the power steering pump pulley it appears to slightly wobbly/ not running quite right and could be the cause of the failure. If anyone has an extra pulley and/or pump , I would happily pay the going rate. Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] one more reason to own a 1984 300D/ need pulley and/or pump
Thanks Scott. I will give it a look. Mike Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On May 23, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Inspect your transmission cooler hoses at the bottom of the radiator to be sure they weren't compromised by the flaying belts. That happened to me and the car won't go far after it hoses the ATF onto the road. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:12 AM To: Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] one more reason to own a 1984 300D/ need pulley and/or pump On the way home from work yesterday I heard a flapping noise coming from the front of the car. I pulled over and discovered the power steering belt broken and wrapped around the fan. The air conditioning belt had come off as well. The best thing about the situation was that the car was still drivable because the water pump belt was still intact! I love these cars! Adding to the parts order for today from Trent. p.s. In looking at the power steering pump pulley it appears to slightly wobbly/ not running quite right and could be the cause of the failure. ? If anyone has an extra pulley and/or pump , I would happily pay the going rate. Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
'You're looking for something _easier_ than a bucket of ice water?' Update on cold water application - Dousing the injection pump when the car would not start was successful! I tried it 5 different times during a no start situation. After applying hose water for 30 to 60 seconds it started up within 5 seconds. (Thanks to Jim for the suggestion and easiest trouble shooting method I have ever used. ) Does this indicate a worn injection pump? If so, can it repaired in place or do I replace it? Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On May 22, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: You're looking for something _easier_ than a bucket of ice water? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was RE: 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
Mitch, I am interested in the injection pump. My mechanic would like it to be as close to my existing pump as possible. How do I determine what pump I have on my car and what pump you have. I cannot see number on the pump I have. Would the VIN or Number Plate located under the hood near the radiator help identify the pump. I have a pump from an 85 wagon and it does look different than the 84 pump. Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On May 29, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Smith, Todd todd.sm...@camc.org wrote: I have been following the Biodiesel and SVO community since 2004 and while I certainly see the advantages and disadvantages to each system; Biodiesel makes more sense in my situation. All of the reading and listening to SVO advocates and some that posted hard data to analyze; I believe that viscosity is by and large the silent killer of IP. Some of the tests that I have seen have shown SVO heated to 180 degrees F. which should be normal operating temperature for a properly warmed up system; showing viscosity far in excess of cold No.2 diesel. Mike, you don't have to take my word for it. When you get a chance, read the link on measuring the viscosity of motor oil at ehow; http://www.ehow.com/how_6218753_measure-viscosity-motor-oil.html . Simply run two tests, one for your diesel fuel at ambient temperature and one for your SVO at the normal operating temperature that your system runs. If there is a huge difference then your IP HAS to work harder to pump fuel and would wear more than typical. Jim Cathy's comment about dissolved salts and Grant's comment about pH balances could certainly over a long term have some effects, but IMHO viscosity is the real issue. If you do test your viscosity, please report back since I would love to see if in your situation it is the same as has been reported in other places. Thanks for your time. Todd Smith Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
Thanks Mitch. Can anyone else chime in on how to identify the Injection Pumps Were they different in 81,82, 83, 84? The 1985 pump I have from the wagon. Does the VIN number help? My address is: 220 Robinwood Whitehall, MI 49461 If it looks good, go ahead and send it out. Where are you located? Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 30, 2013, at 01:40 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike Esh wrote: Mitch, I am interested in the injection pump. My mechanic would like it to be as close to my existing pump as possible. How do I determine what pump I have on my car and what pump you have. I cannot see number on the pump I have. Would the VIN or Number Plate located under the hood near the radiator help identify the pump. I have a pump from an 85 wagon and it does look different than the 84 pump. I think mine is from an '83 or '84, but I really can't remember, and no longer have the emails from when I bought it. I'm 99% sure it was a turbo W123. I'm 100% sure it's turbo with an unmolested ALDA. I can pick it up this afternoon and look for the mfg tags. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL not charging? - starter?
On Wednesday I replaced the power steering and AC belts on my 84 300D. Power steering was fairly easy using a 1/4 drive set. The AC belt was not so easy. The 3 bolts are inconveniently located and it is hard to get enough room to turn them. I think I spent about 90 minutes on the project. In both cases, even with all bolts loosened up I could not get the units to move far enough to easily slide the belts on easily. I ended up using a couple of large screw drivers to force the belts onto the appropriate pulley. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 31, 2013, at 12:14 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'll appreciate the manually-adjusted belts on my 82 model. I bought a cricket belt tension tool some years back and my belts have been happy ever since. I've carried a belt tension tool everywhere for the past 50 yars. But, that said, I do like the serpentine belts. I was not so sure with the first SDL. Now that I know how the tensioner shaft/bearing works, I'll take serp. having to change the fan belt of a OM 616 or 617 with A/C is a royal PAIN. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] did anybody buy my 617 IP?
I just talked with Mitch, he has located the pump. I am going to meet him and pick up later this afternoon. The numbers on the pump are: RW 375/2200 MW28-1 Do these numbers offer a clue as to what model this is and if it will fit on my 1984 300D? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 31, 2013, at 08:41 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Once upon a time, I had a spare injection pump for a 617 turbo. I never made a conscious effort to sell it, but would have sold it cheap if any list member ever wanted it. Now Mike Esh wants it and I didn't find it yesterday where I thought I put it. I only had the one, so if anybody got an IP from me it's gone. Did anybody here buy it from me? I'll head out to the farm later and see if I stuck it in the trunk of my W116. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 84 300D Injection Pump install
I am scheduled to drop off my car on Thursday and hoping the pump that Mitch so kindly provided will solve all of my starting problems. It is taking more and more cranking to to get it fired up. The estimate for removing the old pump, installing the new one and making all of adjustments is $425.00. With the veg oil system to work around I thought it was pretty reasonable. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D value of vegoil conversion
About 35,000 miles since i installed the system. I probably averaged 75% vegoil during that time. 35000 miles x.75 = 26,250 miles / 20 mpg = 1312 gallons x $3.50 per gallon = 4592.00. System cost including filtering costs, setup, installation, incidentals, etc. $2800.00. Net without labor cost = 1792.00 Note this is a ballpark estimate, I did not record or keep a running total of my mileage or costs. I have never paid for oil. Fixed cost was $1800.00 for Frybrid Kit which included a welded aluminum 17 gallon tank and all lines, hoses, controller and electronics. I paid $500 for a electric motor, pump, and centrifuge to filter oil. The additional costs were for piping, water heater, and mistakes. Make your own conclusions. I enjoy doing this, it is fun and I enjoy driving by the fuel station. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Jun 03, 2013, at 07:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Seems like a good price to me also. Thats about 100 gallons of diesel fuel. How much veg oil have you run through the system? How much did the system cost? Just trying to get a handle on how worth it such a system really is. -Curt Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 18:16:32 -0400 From: Mike Esh michael...@mac.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 84 300D Injection Pump install Message-ID: 8ee3de78-cec6-4e9d-8122-ba2787b09...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am scheduled to drop off my car on Thursday and hoping the pump that Mitch so kindly provided will solve all of my starting problems. It is taking more and more cranking to to get it fired up. The estimate for removing the old pump, installing the new one and making all of adjustments is $425.00. With the veg oil system to work around I thought it was pretty reasonable. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D Injection Pump install
On vegetable oil! Mike On Jun 03, 2013, at 07:44 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike Esh wrote: I am scheduled to drop off my car on Thursday and hoping the pump that Mitch so kindly provided will solve all of my starting problems. Mike is a brave man. He drove that car out by my place to pick up the pump last week (130 miles one way). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
I use three small suppliers. one golf course and two restaurants. I average between 20 and 30 gallons a week. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Jun 07, 2013, at 08:20 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I enjoy collecting and using WVO in my Mercedes. And how do you get the oil that you use? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was RE: 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
Processing oil into biodiesel is much more dangerous and not something I would do my attached garage. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Jun 8, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: that chart (if it's even accurate) seems to pretty well show one of the problems with using xVO as fuel, but certainly not all of them. seems pretty typical of the incomplete information and unrelated conclusions i've seen from some WVO system vendor/manufacturers. So Mike saves enough on fuel to pay for the car. How about this? A biodiesel processor wouldn't cost more than a frybrid kit and you can run multiple cars from it. How does the cost of the additional wear and tear (in this case, $100 used pump plus $400 labor) compare to the cost of methanol and lye for the biodiesel? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was RE: 1984 300D - won't start when hot.
The car is in the shop. It should ready on Monday or Tuesday. Hoping for the best. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Benz Hogs wrote: Virgin VO (VVO) has to be heated to 260F or higher to approach the viscosity of diesel. See the bell curve chart here: http://bunkum.us/svo/viscosity.html Biodiesel is the ONLY way to go. The graph Mike Esh linked earlier seemed to say that SVO (of unnamed variety) at 160° was comparable to #2 at -10°, or approaching gel point. I bet any temp you can get by heating SVO or WVO with engine coolant is going to be a good bit thicker than #2 at 100°. Anyway, I hope the used pump Mike got from me works out. Shouldn't we be hearing the results soon? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D injection Pump - possible failure of used pump.
Michael, Do you mean the lift pump that the manual pump is attached too? There are no leaks around the area. How do check the pressure on the lift pump? Should mechanic be able to test it? Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: How do the lift pumps check out? Correct pressure to the pump is critical. Mike On Jun 13, 2013 7:32 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: The pump from Mitch looks like it may be a lost cause. My mechanic cannot get the car to idle correctly or develop any power. He set the timing at 24 degrees as baseline and then moved to to 26. At 24 it barely ran at all. At 26 it idled a little better but not good at all. It lopes and stalls when it idles and belches black smoke and bogs down while trying to accelerate. I cannot get any speed or power from it going down the road anyone behind is getting lungful of unburnt diesel. He is going to advance a bit more tomorrow but he was not hopeful. I will take any suggestion to him tomorrow if anyone has any thoughts. Sarcasm is welcome and helpful ideas are sought after. I hope like heck we can get this going. If not I will be looking for another pump. For what its worth he also stated it looked like an older pump Thanks in advance. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D injection Pump - possible failure of used pump.
Michael Esh wrote: The pump from Mitch looks like it may be a lost cause. My mechanic cannot get the car to idle correctly or develop any power. He set the timing at 24 degrees as baseline and then moved to to 26. At 24 it barely ran at all. At 26 it idled a little better but not good at all. It lopes and stalls when it idles and belches black smoke and bogs down while trying to accelerate. I cannot get any speed or power from it going down the road anyone behind is getting lungful of unburnt diesel. For what its worth he also stated it looked like an older pump The number I got off it seems to cross to a 1981 station wagon governor. Did you get all the numbers off of it before it went on the car? My 300D 2.5 smokes like that and is down on power. The story there is that the guy I bought it from got a used pump for it after the original was afflicted with a sticking throttle. The used pump wouldn't make good power, so they (MB dealer in Kzoo) put the old one back on and he returned the new/used one. When I test drove it with the 'good power' pump back on it a couple of months later, it smoked and made little power. I always wondered if the weak smoky running had anything to do with either pump itself. Mitch. Mitch, I did not get the numbers off the pump before he installed it. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D injection Pump - possible failure of used pump.
Yes that is the idea on Monday after I get out work. I will go over all of the suggestions with him. He is very receptive to trying things to get it going. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Jun 16, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I would just ask him if there's a chance the pump is 180 out. Mistakes happen even for someone who's done a hundred pumps. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Sure..I would try diesel purge and check pump timing. Mike On Jun 15, 2013 3:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: One more question: If a previously working IP sat in a box for ten years, would it be possible to have a delivery valve or two stick open when you put in on an engine? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve
1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning. All heat all the time. With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one not. When it is plugged in i get both wires hot. This is the same if i have AC on or full heat. If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold air. Can someone help me troubleshoot this? Thanks, Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve
What is PBA? Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Sep 15, 2013, at 06:12 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: PBA no ground? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Order a monovalve repair kit. Easy repair job. Not too expensive. Gerry '83 300 and 240D From: Mike Esh michael...@mac.com 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning. All heat all the time. With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one not. When it is plugged in i get both wires hot. This is the same if i have AC on or full heat. If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold air. Can someone help me troubleshoot this? Thanks, Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
Nice pictures. Someday I may make one of these gatherings. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Well its over and done (well it was over and done yesterday but I'm only now recovered enough to post... I counted 9 cars including a turbo OM616 powered Chevy van. Buncha people (more than 9 :) ) and a record number of dogs. The secret food was my nearly famous dutch oven bbq, this year with sausage (both sweet and hot) pork and chicken dry rubbed and then cooked for 3 hours. Strangely nobody got a picture of that, you can get an idea from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUshllIVSUY except I did 2 pots, one for spicy and one for non. We also had burgers, chowda, clamcakes, a world of fruit, veggies and pie for the finish. I got the opportunity to drive John's Astro van (not a bad ride, it'd be better if he turned up the IP to support the turbo and move the shifter), Steve's immaculate '85 300D and Dimitri's 280SL. Parts were swapped, chowda was consumed. Check it out: http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013?sort=3page=1 -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. Attn Jim Cathey
Mike Esh wrote 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning. All heat all the time. With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one not. When it is plugged in i get both wires hot. This is the same if i have AC on or full heat. If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold air. Can someone help me troubleshoot this? Thanks, Jim, Could this be the push button unit? The mono valve was rebuilt with a new kit 12 months ago. Is there a test to determine what is not working? Do you still repair PBU'?s Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. Attn Jim Cathey
Thanks Scott, I will give that a try today. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Sep 16, 2013, at 09:53 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: There is a 2-pin connector on the mono valve. One pin is always hot (+12v whenever the car is powered up). The other pin is grounded by the ACC system to stop the flow of coolant through the heater core. You can test the mono valve by applying 12v to the one pin and grounding the other pin; that should close the valve. But just measuring the voltage at the connector could be misleading. One lead will read 12v but the other may read zero even if it's just floating (not grounded). -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:40 PM To: Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. Attn Jim Cathey Mike Esh wrote 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning. All heat all the time. With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one not. When it is plugged in i get both wires hot. This is the same if i have AC on or full heat. If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold air. Can someone help me troubleshoot this? Thanks, Jim, Could this be the push button unit? The mono valve was rebuilt with a new kit 12 months ago. Is there a test to determine what is not working? Do you still repair PBU'??s Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Windshield
I am having the windshield in my 84 300D replaced next week due to pitting and scratches and is very difficult to see through when driving into the sun. The windshield was replaced due to an accident about 3 years ago and the label on it says it is PPG. The insurance is covering the cost minus the deductible of 100 bucks. Is there anything I need to know ahead of time to make sure I get the job done right? Is there a particular brand of glass I could request? Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield
Can the old seal be reused? It is only about 3 years old. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Sep 19, 2013, at 09:20 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Get an OE seal, NO exceptions! Dan On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I am having the windshield in my 84 300D replaced next week due to pitting and scratches and is very difficult to see through when driving into the sun. The windshield was replaced due to an accident about 3 years ago and the label on it says it is PPG. The insurance is covering the cost minus the deductible of 100 bucks. Is there anything I need to know ahead of time to make sure I get the job done right? Is there a particular brand of glass I could request? Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. UPDATE
I tested the mono valve with the engine running and pigtail connected by applying 12 volts ( 1 positive lead and one negative lead to the valve) from the battery. It worked correctly by shutting off the flow of heat and allowing the AC to function. With this information can I assume I have a faulty Push Button Unit? When the failure occurred it was immediate and final, it does not work intermittently. And yes I verified the fuse was functioning correctly. Gary would you be the one to order a rebuilt unit for me? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh (C) 231.286.2344 On Sep 17, 2013, at 07:55 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: Thanks Scott, I will give that a try today. Michael E. Esh On Sep 16, 2013, at 09:53 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: There is a 2-pin connector on the mono valve. One pin is always hot (+12v whenever the car is powered up). The other pin is grounded by the ACC system to stop the flow of coolant through the heater core. You can test the mono valve by applying 12v to the one pin and grounding the other pin; that should close the valve. But just measuring the voltage at the connector could be misleading. One lead will read 12v but the other may read zero even if it's just floating (not grounded). -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning. All heat all the time. With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one not. When it is plugged in i get both wires hot. This is the same if i have AC on or full heat. If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold air. Can someone help me troubleshoot this? Thanks, Jim, Could this be the push button unit? The mono valve was rebuilt with a new kit 12 months ago. Is there a test to determine what is not working? Do you still repair PBU'??s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 clock
Ditto on the clock in my 84 300D, it is perfect. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: The clock in my 300SD works but runs fast. Very fast. Gains hours a week, or more. Repairable? By contrast the clock in my W123 300D is probably the most accurate one I own. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine
Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith Stromberg carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's? I have friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted inline 6 cylinder gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs. What information do I need to and where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild these things? Any guidance or recommendations are welcome. Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine
Thanks Dan and Jamie, this is perfect. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Mike, Jaime has all the documentation for these on his web site at www.jaimekop.com, I believe. Let me know if you have questions. I love the Zeniths and have done a great deal of work on them. Dan On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they are the reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith Stromberg carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's? I have friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted inline 6 cylinder gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs. What information do I need to and where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild these things? Any guidance or recommendations are welcome. Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/**138123http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Blinker relay switch
1984 300D - Both of my directional signals stopped working yesterday. I noticed the right side not working the day before that. I have checked the fuse and replaced it just in case. Can some tell me where the relay is located? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blinker relay switch
Thanks Randy! That did the trick! Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Oct 08, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Is this the sort of thing where one activates the hazard switch 50 times on and off and solves the problem??? Randy On 08/10/2013 10:37 AM, Mike Esh wrote: 1984 300D - Both of my directional signals stopped working yesterday. I noticed the right side not working the day before that. I have checked the fuse and replaced it just in case. Can some tell me where the relay is located? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PBU troubleshooting and front seal
Hi Gary, Please order me a PBU for the HVAC system in my 1984 300D. I believe you recommended the Beckman unit. I am hoping this will solve my all heat all the time issue. I tried the unit Dan re-soldered, however it did not help the problem. (Thanks for trying Dan) I tested the mono valve and it worked properly when I used direct leads from the battery. I could not get any response when using the correct leads. Is there an easy test to determine if the PBU is at fault? Could you also send me a front seal? I think this is what I need as I have oil coming from the front of the engine and it appears to to be coming from the area around the crank. Is this a difficult repair? Is this leak typical of this engine? New shipping address is McCormick Gas Convenience Attention: Kyle Esh 1845 White Lake Drive Whitehall, MI 49461 Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] Balky 300TD wiper, then it worked, and then nothing
If I remember correctly the relay is behind and/or near the speedometer. You need to pull the assembly to get at it. Can anyone confirm this? Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Oct 10, 2013, at 08:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe clean the control in the stalk. Take a very small flat blade scewdriver and you can pop the square end off the stalk. Hose the inside with Deoxit, there is no other contact cleaner worth using, get it at RadioSchmuck. Yes it's expensive but you actually want it to work right? Wait an hour for it to dry, replace the cap and give it a shot. Curt Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 00:08:32 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Balky 300TD wiper, then it worked, and then nothing Message-ID: CAC35L=tmmCg=30+EMRp13jveG2rKe3EfZw_H_XGSda5=dsc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The wipers on my1983 300TD stopped suddenly last week, then started up again a few seconds later. Today, in interval mode, they stopped and I could hear a buzzing sound. When I switched to higher speed the sound went away but the wipers remained inoperable. After a minute or two, they sprang back to life. Interestingly, the rear wiper also ceased operating during the outage. I went to the store, came out a few minutes later, and turned on the wipers. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Front or rear. Now I am totally scre*ed. Of course, the next 4 days are supposed to be rainy after 3 weeks of drought. Any ideas? Is there a wiper relay? Where is it? Andrew 1985 300TD 1983 300TD Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wagon
Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over? My daughter is beginning to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon
Hendrick! Thanks for the information. Would would you think a fair price is? Do you have a feel for the cost of getting it road ready? Is the body rusted out? How was the interior other than the seats? I thought you were in Australia? Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Oct 21, 2013, at 06:12 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I had a look, it's a piece of junk, keep looking. Actually when they say runs like a tank, it looks to have been in a few battles. Filthy engine bay tells me it has not been looked after and it's sunburnt. Hendrik whose TE has a few battle wounds but not on that scale On 21/10/13 17:27, Mike Esh wrote: Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over? My daughter is beginning to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon
Thanks Andrew! I will keep you in mind. Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Oct 21, 2013, at 07:12 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, I have some nice palomino door panels and rear hatch covers if you do get the car and want to replace some of the interior. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over? My daughter is beginning to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 cars for sale
Where are you located Rick? thanks Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Oct 22, 2013, at 09:37 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: Rick, What in the world do you have against list members (c: . ADESA sells a running rust free 300D with NA 617 mills for $300. ( admittedly the passenger front fender had been painted with a brush and the pads were junk, but... ) They should really be getting the scrapper in there, eh? If you want to get some $$ out of these scrappers, part em out. It's the only humane thing to do (c: On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:20 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks, I just bought a fairly rough 1982 300d turbo light blue has some rust, a few dents, probably bad auto transmission, good engine dents, etc complete what should i do with this car? i could part it out on ebay, but would rather see it go more quickly it's complete i'm taking the battery for another car and the best couple of the tires scrap price is about $400 i'd probably sell it to a listmember for $800 we also have a 240 bad engine (hole in block) and i think bad trans (auto) but fairly nice body ... no rust my associate here has these two cars he wants me to see if i can sell THE FIRST is a 300D turbo, maybe 1984 or so, stretch limousine . runs and drives, but has been sitting and only started occasionally for the past few years BUT it was built by some california company, i think, so it's not a factory job it's quite long it has sort of a velour interior . has rust and body is not so great ... i think it has very low mileage maybe 100k or something engine always ran nicely THE SECOND is a rare 300td with MANUAL TRANSMISSION i think it's a euro model and is factory maybe it's 1979 i think it has a non turbo engine in it but it also comes with a spare turbo diesel engine in the back (hopefully the one with the suspension pump) and some spare doors etc has some rust 706 540-3285 noon to midnite or later is fine if you want to discuss i have handy photos of the blue sedan i bought that i can email and will take some of the others all cars are in athens, ga none really driving thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300D 120,000 miles, strong clean engine.
I have been driving my new car for several days now and I am very happy with the performance. A couple of questions: The kick down switch located beneath the throttle pedal is sticking occasionally and I have to hit it pretty hard for it to switch off and go back into 4th gear. Is this switch easy to remove and would a shot electrical contact cleaner be likely to resolve the issue? When accelerating from a stop the car is very slow and then the it feels like the turbo kicks in and it is very fast. It is not a comfortable feeling. I like the fast part but not the lag I get from takeoff. Is there an adjustment of several things or maybe just one thing? I am hoping just one thing. Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300D 120,000 miles, strong clean engine.
Thanks Rich. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Oct 29, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A new kickdown switch is cheap and takes about 5min to change out. Have you changed your fuel filters? That can result in accel lag. Also the tube from the back of the intake manifold to the ALDA that adjusts for boost. Takes a minute to undo it and make sure it all clean in the manifold and the hose. --R On 10/29/13 3:57 PM, Mike Esh wrote: I have been driving my new car for several days now and I am very happy with the performance. A couple of questions: The kick down switch located beneath the throttle pedal is sticking occasionally and I have to hit it pretty hard for it to switch off and go back into 4th gear. Is this switch easy to remove and would a shot electrical contact cleaner be likely to resolve the issue? When accelerating from a stop the car is very slow and then the it feels like the turbo kicks in and it is very fast. It is not a comfortable feeling. I like the fast part but not the lag I get from takeoff. Is there an adjustment of several things or maybe just one thing? I am hoping just one thing. Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but important
My experience is to get tested. I had a history of intestinal issues since my appendectomy in 1995. Not sure if there is any connection, however the problems started soon after. At 40 I started colonoscopies anally, I mean annually. :-) Pre-cancerous signs showed up around 2008 and after several recommendations to remove my colon, I went ahead with a total colectomy. In my case it probably saved my life. But who knows? You try to make the best decisions to stay alive a little longer Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Nov 1, 2013, at 9:05 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree that the measure is most likely a reflection of the presenting population. I asked my Doc about the results of the procedure when he was pushing it, and was told something to the effect that this procedure results in a 5-10 % change in the mortality rate due to colon cancer. I said that that doesn't sound like a significant change. He said that in the field of medicine, that is a huge success. I've been even more skeptical of modern medicine since. I've declined the procedure, sounds like scare tactics to generate revenue more than saving my life. Now, if they do find a bad polyp and save your life, I guess it's worth it, but the odds don't seem to be in your favor. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: So the fellow's rate of detecting suspicious tissue in your intestine is 13 - 19%. Is that a function of the fellow and his technology, or of the presenting population? I would presume the latter. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
