Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-15 Thread MotionPictureArt.com
Haha! This sounds like a new thread: under the influence of what substance did 
you enjoy a movie ;-)

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Ditto.


The first time I viewed 2001, it was a midnite film at the local bijou, 
after the lights went down, the smoke lit up. (Incidentally, I was enjoying 
some miscellaneous party favours).


A girl started to ad-lib (out loud) during the initial monkey / chimp 
pan, giving each character a name (that was in the current news at the time) 
... most of the crowd starting laughing along. It was on.


ad  

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  From: jbirddouglass jbirddougl...@cox.net
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
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  Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:52 AM


  I'll confess: I saw 2001 the first time in Cinerama, in 1968,  
after taking a capsule of particularly pure blue Mescaline, a synthesized form 
of peyote. The stuff came on during the intermission, just before Hal began to 
run amuck and the light show began and all that weirdness started in. I was 
absolutely enthralled by the spectacle, but I was equally enthralled by the 
lava-like stream of tail lights on the cars ahead of me during a post-dusk 
traffic jam on the Bay Bridge in San Francisco as I drove myself and my girl 
friend back from the film. Sorry, Stanley.
  I watched it again recently after taking a capsule of pure ibuprofen. 
I still enjoyed the film, more as a nostalgic curio than anything else, and my 
back didn't hurt once.
  Greg Douglass
  Kenwick Cook wrote:
   In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:27:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
ilovefi...@flash.net writes:
   
   Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told 
me
   you just gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake 
of
   a friend I watched it all the way through, scratched my head and
   said 'huh?'.  Her comment back to me was 'it is better if you 
are
   stoned'.Darn, maybe that is my problem with a few of these
   films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am thinking about 
going
   to the movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too much in
   Popcorn and Gummy worms.
   
   Either that or some acid... for the other folks posting, I would 
say that 2001 AND Once Upon A Time In The West also helps with mood 
ameliorating substances
   
   

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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-14 Thread Phil Edwards
On the other hand I really enjoy Coppola's One From The Heart, but would have 
a hard time knowing how to defend that particular turkey. Las Vegas 
re-created in a studio set (why?), Tom Waits duetting with Crystal Gayle 
(what??), a fairly cliched plotline with unsympathetic characters. Not 
exactly The Godfather or Apocalypse Now, but I like it.

1. Because he could, and it was (I think) the first time he used the idea of 
never being on the set and directing from inside his trailer.
2. I like it a lot too. It's as outstanding and unique in its own way as 
UMBRELLAS OF CHERBOURG.

One of Coppola's most adroitjhly directed and under-rated ones is THE 
RAINMAKER, and probably the best adaptation of a Grisham novel.

Phil
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  I've always liked Empire of the Sun too, despite the criticisms levelled at 
it that it's too sanitized. One big Spielberg movie I never got into, though, 
is Close Encounters - apart from anything else, I just can't take the ending 
seriously.
  On the other hand I really enjoy Coppola's One From The Heart, but would have 
a hard time knowing how to defend that particular turkey. Las Vegas re-created 
in a studio set (why?), Tom Waits duetting with Crystal Gayle (what??), a 
fairly cliched plotline with unsympathetic characters. Not exactly The 
Godfather or Apocalypse Now, but I like it.

  Paul


  In a message dated 13/07/2009 16:09:23 GMT Daylight Time, 
aaroncba...@fuse.net writes:
I agree!  This was a another Spielberg film that critics missed the boat 
on.  The critics crabbed about all of the over-the-top scenes (e.g. Jamie 
touches the plane amid a shower of welding sparks and then the pilots salute 
him) but that was exactly the point- the second world war as seen through the 
eyes of a spoiled child who's only coping mechanism was to create fantasy out 
of reality.  A really wonderful film.  One of the last films to have that kind 
of epic scale (before CGI made it more cost effective). So many great big 
scenes with thousands of extras.  Definitely one of Spielberg's most underrated 
films. 


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-14 Thread Roland Lataille
If I'm flipping channels and I see Starship Troopers on, I always love to watch 
it. Great fun!

Another fun film to watch is Ice Pirates. I love the scene where one of the 
robots is shitting bolts and screws before he has to fight a lot bigger robot.

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From: CK MacLeod ckmac...@ckmac.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 12:36 AM




 
 
 
 
 
 






Right there with you all on
Spielberg's WotW.  Actually one of
my favorite Spielberg films.  Once
upon a time, I liked to defend JURASSIC PARK over SCHINDLER'S LIST, but that
was probly just to piss people off. 
 

  

I'll put STARSHIP TROOPERS on the list.  Do you get me?   

  

While we're talking widely unliked
sci-fi, I dug both of the last two ALIEN films, even if I had difficulty
forgiving them for killing off the girl. 
 

  

Hey, how about ARMAGEDDON?  I find it quite hilarious.  If I had the time I 
might be able to
make a case for its secret depths. 
Anyway, the destruction of the dinosaurs opening narrated by Charlton
Heston was like the best ever science class movie. 

  

  

CK MacLeod
Collectibles at ckmac.com 

Kymar's on eBay 

  

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  Don't do it, Rick! 
  The goddam texting-teens will ruin your high-- as well as your movie!! 
    
  Joe B in NOLA

  

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  From: Richard Auras ilovefi...@flash.net

  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

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  Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:26 AM 
  
  Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and
  she told me you just gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the
  sake of a friend I watched it all the way through, scratched my head and said
  'huh?'.  Her comment back to me was 'it is better if you are
  stoned'.    Darn, maybe that is my problem with a few of these
  films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am thinking about going to the
  movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too much in Popcorn and
  Gummy worms. 
    
   Rick 
  www.ilovefilms.com 
    
  
  
  
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  FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

  

  

   
  DUNE: Everyone hated it but me... including Lynch himself 
    
  although ERASERHEAD is a cult classic and all, I still find
  myself having to defend it often. 
    
  Still thinking about my the other side of the coin
  choices 
  
    
  
  
  
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-14 Thread Joseph Bonelli
Daniel, I am with you on this film.  
Most moving and, like 2001, probably most prophetic. 
We already know where science's beeping scanners are leading (I'm sorry, 
Dave..).  Let's hope we don't carry things as far as they are done in A.I.
 I quite believe Spielberg followed Kubrick's intentions here.  Supposedly 
Kubrick wanted Spielberg and his magic touch at the helm of this film all 
along.
By the way, it is said that A.I. will be the first non-Indy Spielberg film to 
get the Blu-Ray hi def treatment-- this fall.  
Would that Empire of the Sun would join it.
 
And one thing that can never be said about Spielberg is that he doesn't know 
how to handle kids onscreen!  Haley Joel Osment and Christian Bale to Henry 
Thomas and Drew Barrymore. well, the list is impressive.
 
Joe B in NOLA

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From: Daniel Chia danc...@pacific.net.sg
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
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Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:58 AM


Hi everyone,

My favourite film of all time is one that I always have to defend, and that is 
Steven Spielberg's A.I. Artificial Intelligence. This was the film that divided 
critics, and stumped many filmgoers. However, it was to me a film that had so 
much depth and undercurrents that it drew me, together with a motley group of 
people from all over the world, from USA to England, from Singapore to 
Netherlands, to an online forum as we searched for clozure from a film that 
refused to leave us long after we had left the theatre. There were doctors 
among us, authors, lecturers, film students and other professionals, but 
something about the film drew us every day for 3 full years, as we discussed 
the philosophical ramifications of this one film. It was amazing, but every day 
for three full years, we all managed to discover new insights about the film. 
It was just amazing discussing the film at depth.

I thought Spielberg's screenplay and direction were impeccable. Haley Joel 
Osment's turn as the mecha child remains one of the most incredible 
performances by a child actor, ever, and it was a shame he did not even garner 
an Oscar nomination for it. John Williams' evocative score should also have won 
the Oscar that year, and the cinematography for the film was beautiful.

Curiously, the third act of the film (which everyone said was pure 
Spielbergian, mawkish and overly sentimental, and which apparently destroyed 
Kubrick's original vision of the film) was actually filmed the way Kubrick 
wrote it. Spielberg did not change the ending at all and filmed it as Kubrick 
had outlined it in its 20 years of conception by the late auteur. And to me, it 
was this very third act that gave the film its heart and soul.

8 years on since its theatrical release, I still cannot watch the film without 
having a tremendous flood of emotions overwhelm me. And I know that I am not 
the only one on MOPO who was similarly moved by this film.

As for its iconic movie poster, it still remains one of my favourite movie 
posters of all time :)

daniel

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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-14 Thread bill scutta

Hello everyone,

There are lots of movies that I like that I have to defend (almost  
every movie in my collection, ha ha).  But one that stands out is  
TERROR VISION (1986).  Many dismiss it as simply a bad film with  
bad acting.  But I see it as very tongue-in-cheek.  It's supposed to  
be over the top, a comic book come to life.  It's a lot of fun to  
watch and there's never a dull moment.  As far as I'm concerned, the  
worst thing any film can do is be boring.


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-14 Thread Daniel Chia

At 08:55 PM 7/14/2009, Joseph Bonelli wrote:

Daniel, I am with you on this film.
Most moving and, like 2001, probably most prophetic.
We already know where science's beeping scanners are leading (I'm 
sorry, Dave..).  Let's hope we don't carry things as far as they 
are done in A.I.
 I quite believe Spielberg followed Kubrick's intentions 
here.  Supposedly Kubrick wanted Spielberg and his magic touch at 
the helm of this film all along.
By the way, it is said that A.I. will be the first non-Indy 
Spielberg film to get the Blu-Ray hi def treatment-- this fall.

Would that Empire of the Sun would join it.



Hey Joe ! Yeah, I heard that rumor too  and I will buy it 
straightaway on bluray too !


Ditto that for Empire of the Sun as well ! That last close-up shot 
of a young tired looking Christian Bale finally closing his eyes as 
he hugged the mother he had almost completely forgotten phew 
. world weary , battle scarred, but finally able to become a 
child again in his mother's arms. One of my favourite shots, ever, in 
Spielberg's arsenal . Brilliant !



 And one thing that can never be said about Spielberg is that he 
doesn't know how to handle kids onscreen!  Haley Joel Osment and 
Christian Bale to Henry Thomas and Drew Barrymore. well, the 
list is impressive.



Absolutely. It's been said of M Night Shyamalan that he has the same 
magic touch with filming children ( Haley Joel Osment, again, in 
Sixth Sense etc ), but I think it really is Spielberg who is the master 


daniel

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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-14 Thread allen day
Ditto.
The first time I viewed 2001, it was a midnite film at the local bijou, after 
the lights went down, the smoke lit up. (Incidentally, I was enjoying some 
miscellaneous party favours).
A girl started to ad-lib (out loud) during the initial monkey / chimp pan, 
giving each character a name (that was in the current news at the time) ... 
most of the crowd starting laughing along. It was on.
ad  

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Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:52 AM

I'll confess: I saw 2001 the first time in Cinerama, in 1968,  after taking a 
capsule of particularly pure blue Mescaline, a synthesized form of peyote. The 
stuff came on during the intermission, just before Hal began to run amuck and 
the light show began and all that weirdness started in. I was absolutely 
enthralled by the spectacle, but I was equally enthralled by the lava-like 
stream of tail lights on the cars ahead of me during a post-dusk traffic jam on 
the Bay Bridge in San Francisco as I drove myself and my girl friend back from 
the film. Sorry, Stanley.
I watched it again recently after taking a capsule of pure ibuprofen. I still 
enjoyed the film, more as a nostalgic curio than anything else, and my back 
didn't hurt once.
Greg Douglass
Kenwick Cook wrote:
 In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:27:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 ilovefi...@flash.net writes:
 
     Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told me
     you just gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake of
     a friend I watched it all the way through, scratched my head and
     said 'huh?'.  Her comment back to me was 'it is better if you are
     stoned'.    Darn, maybe that is my problem with a few of these
     films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am thinking about going
     to the movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too much in
     Popcorn and Gummy worms.
 
 Either that or some acid... for the other folks posting, I would say that 
 2001 AND Once Upon A Time In The West also helps with mood ameliorating 
 substances
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Tom A. Pennock
Xanadu (Universal, 1980) It's from the disco era so it's a bit  dated but I 
like it. Also it was Gene Kelly's last film. I like Olivia Newton  John 
too!!! Too bad they did not cast Andy Gibb opposite Olivia. Michael Beck is  
good but I think Andy Gibb would have been terrific.
 
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We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a lot of  
defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our humble opinion  
are:
 
Return of the Living Dead
2 Days in the Valley
Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
Arlington Road
Good Will Hunting
Braindead (P. Jackson)
Deep Rising
Cube
Demon Knight
Desperado
Long Kiss Goodnight
Night Breed
Night of the Creeps
Perdita Durango
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Very Bad Things
Bound
Cabin Fever
Killing Zoe
And the list goes on and on...
 
Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!
 
Ron  Alexandra

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most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share  tons 
of loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO,  etc. is on 
everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?   that is, 
what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of  others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread chris quarles
I also liked 1941, Spielberg's bomb.





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Xanadu (Universal, 1980) It's from the disco era so it's a bit dated but I like 
it. Also it was Gene Kelly's last film. I like Olivia Newton John too!!! Too 
bad they did not cast Andy Gibb opposite Olivia. Michael Beck is good but I 
think Andy Gibb would have been terrific.
 
--Tom Pennock 

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We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a lot of 
defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our humble opinion 
are:

Return of the Living Dead
2 Days in the Valley
Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
Arlington Road
Good Will Hunting
Braindead (P. Jackson)
Deep Rising
Cube
Demon Knight
Desperado
Long Kiss Goodnight
Night Breed
Night of the Creeps
Perdita Durango
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Very Bad Things
Bound
Cabin Fever
Killing Zoe
And the list goes on and on...

Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!

Ron  Alexandra
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From: Michael B 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share tons of 
loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc. is on 
everyone's list.)

BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?  that is, what 
film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others?

my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.



michael



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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Richard Auras
I loved both 1941  Xanadu.  I agree on Beck not being the best pick for the 
film.  If you saw him in Warriors and then saw Xanadu you would just be 
scratching your head  Olivia is/was such a hottie.  As for 1941  
Belushi at his best.


 




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I also liked 1941, Spielberg's bomb.





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Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

Xanadu (Universal, 1980) It's from the disco era so it's a bit dated but I like 
it. Also it was Gene Kelly's last film. I like Olivia Newton John too!!! Too 
bad they did not cast Andy Gibb opposite Olivia. Michael Beck is good but I 
think Andy Gibb would have been terrific.
 
--Tom Pennock 

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Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:03:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a lot of 
defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our humble opinion 
are:

Return of the Living Dead
2 Days in the Valley
Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
Arlington Road
Good Will Hunting
Braindead (P. Jackson)
Deep Rising
Cube
Demon Knight
Desperado
Long Kiss Goodnight
Night Breed
Night of the Creeps
Perdita Durango
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Very Bad Things
Bound
Cabin Fever
Killing Zoe
And the list goes on and on...

Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!

Ron  Alexandra
- Original Message - 
From: Michael B 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share tons of 
loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc. is on 
everyone's list.)

BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?  that is, what 
film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others?

my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.



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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Joseph Bonelli
EMPIRE OF THE SUN (1987-- Spielberg, directing Christian Bale in possibly the 
greatest performance by a child actor ever!)
  Joe B in NOLA

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From: Michael B dialmbb...@aol.com
Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 8:46 AM



most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share tons of 
loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc. is on 
everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?  that is, what 
film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread aaroncbates
I am enjoying this discussion.  
I always feel the need to defend War of the Worlds (Spielberg's).  I think it 
is a better and more interesting film than most people give it credit for.  I 
firmly believe that the entire film is a dream (e.g. Invaders from Mars)- Tom 
Cruise's dream.  He falls asleep and then everything starts happening.  The 
entire film is an exaggerated nightmare- his worst nightmare- his parental 
abilities are tested to the extreme.  The very beginning of the film lays out 
the fact that he is a questionable parent at best.  Then, throughout the 
nightmare, he is faced with parents' worst  fears realized (best e.g. is the 
scene where Cruise is simultaneously dealing with strangers trying to take his 
daughter and his son being pulled inexplicably towards the military- both 
primal parental fears).  By film's end he proves his parental prowess and in 
one of the most maligned scenes in the film (the last scene) he hand  delivers 
his children back to his wife safe with his judgmental in-laws ther!
 e to lay witness.  To me this was absolutely Spielberg's intent.  Throughout, 
the film works more in the realm of dream logic (e.g. Cruise's car is the ONLY 
one that works).  
If you are still reading, I also find myself defending Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut 
for one very specific and unique reason:  I firmly believe that the film is one 
big cosmic joke- a black comedy -that even the critics, as far as I could tell, 
missed entirely.  In the simplest of terms it is a story of a husband who get's 
so jealous about his wife having an imaginary tryst that he spends the rest of 
the film trying to get laid and he CAN'T! Mr.Tom-universal-sex-symbol-Cruise 
cannot get laid!  And the most exaggerated case in point is that he ends up 
going to a super deluxe orgy and he STILL can't get laid.  I think Kubrick 
threw a curve ball at us before he died.  A very funny curve ball.

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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread MotionPictureArt.com
Hi Joe,
Do you really have to defend that one?
That movie is awesome!
Ron
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EMPIRE OF THE SUN (1987-- Spielberg, directing Christian Bale in 
possibly the greatest performance by a child actor ever!)
  Joe B in NOLA

--- On Sun, 7/12/09, Michael B dialmbb...@aol.com wrote:


  From: Michael B dialmbb...@aol.com
  Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 8:46 AM


  most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share 
tons of loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc. is on 
everyone's list.)

  BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?  that 
is, what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others?

  my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.



  michael


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread aaroncbates
I agree!  This was a another Spielberg film that critics missed the boat on.  
The critics crabbed about all of the over-the-top scenes (e.g. Jamie touches 
the plane amid a shower of welding sparks and then the pilots salute him) but 
that was exactly the point- the second world war as seen through the eyes of a 
spoiled child who's only coping mechanism was to create fantasy out of reality. 
 A really wonderful film.  One of the last films to have that kind of epic 
scale (before CGI made it more cost effective). So many great big scenes with 
thousands of extras.  Definitely one of Spielberg's most underrated films. 

 Joseph Bonelli joebom...@yahoo.com wrote: 
EMPIRE OF THE SUN (1987-- Spielberg, directing Christian Bale in possibly the 
greatest performance by a child actor ever!)
  Joe B in NOLA

--- On Sun, 7/12/09, Michael B dialmbb...@aol.com wrote:


From: Michael B dialmbb...@aol.com
Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 8:46 AM



most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share tons of 
loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc. is on 
everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?  that is, what 
film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
michael



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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Richard Auras
Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told me you just 
gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake of a friend I watched it 
all the way through, scratched my head and said 'huh?'.  Her comment back to me 
was 'it is better if you are stoned'.    Darn, maybe that is my problem with a 
few of these films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am thinking about going 
to the movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too much in Popcorn and Gummy 
worms.

 Rick
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DUNE: Everyone hated it but me... including Lynch himself

although ERASERHEAD is a cult classic and all, I still find myself having to 
defend it often.

Still thinking about my the other side of the coin choices



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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread jbirddouglass
I agree 98.5 % with you on WAR OF THE WORLDS. I remember purists crying 
Heresy! when Spielberg announced his plans to remake the Pal classic 
(which, of course, just like Spielberg's film, was just an update of the 
Welles novel). I thought it was a spectacular film, with good 
performances across the board, including Cruise. The FX were extremely 
well done, and I had that same sense of awe that I had watching 
FORBIDDEN PLANET and, yes, WAR OF THE WORLDS when I was a kid. I did, 
however, hate the ending. Too neat, too pat, incredibly dumb.  Also, I 
found the film much more satisfying when I thought that obnoxious little 
teenage dick had been vaporized. When he reappeared like a bad case of 
herpes at the end, I left the theater pissed off.

Greg Douglass
aaroncba...@fuse.net wrote:
I am enjoying this discussion.  
I always feel the need to defend War of the Worlds (Spielberg's).  I think it is a better and more interesting film than most people give it credit for.  I firmly believe that the entire film is a dream (e.g. Invaders from Mars)- Tom Cruise's dream.  He falls asleep and then everything starts happening.  The entire film is an exaggerated nightmare- his worst nightmare- his parental abilities are tested to the extreme.  The very beginning of the film lays out the fact that he is a questionable parent at best.  Then, throughout the nightmare, he is faced with parents' worst  fears realized (best e.g. is the scene where Cruise is simultaneously dealing with strangers trying to take his daughter and his son being pulled inexplicably towards the military- both primal parental fears).  By film's end he proves his parental prowess and in one of the most maligned scenes in the film (the last scene) he hand  delivers his children back to his wife safe with his judgmental in-laws th!

er!
 e to lay witness.  To me this was absolutely Spielberg's intent.  Throughout, the film works more in the realm of dream logic (e.g. Cruise's car is the ONLY one that works).  
If you are still reading, I also find myself defending Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut for one very specific and unique reason:  I firmly believe that the film is one big cosmic joke- a black comedy -that even the critics, as far as I could tell, missed entirely.  In the simplest of terms it is a story of a husband who get's so jealous about his wife having an imaginary tryst that he spends the rest of the film trying to get laid and he CAN'T! Mr.Tom-universal-sex-symbol-Cruise cannot get laid!  And the most exaggerated case in point is that he ends up going to a super deluxe orgy and he STILL can't get laid.  I think Kubrick threw a curve ball at us before he died.  A very funny curve ball.


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Kenwick Cook
 
In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:27:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ilovefi...@flash.net writes:

Back in  my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told me you 
just gotta  watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake of a friend I 
watched it  all the way through, scratched my head and said 'huh?'.  Her 
comment 
back  to me was 'it is better if you are stoned'.Darn, maybe that  is 
my problem with a few of these films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint,  I am 
thinking about going to the movies.  Better not.  It would  cost me too 
much in Popcorn and Gummy worms.


Either that or some acid... for the other folks posting, I would say that  
2001 AND Once Upon A Time In The West also helps with mood ameliorating  
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread jbirddouglass
Never saw this. I'll put it on my Netflix queue. I'm a big fan of Bale, 
even after hearing the tapes of his meltdown on the set of the latest 
Terminator film. (Hoo hah, is that boy temperamental! Como se dice 
Hissy fit?)
By the way...what's the dang hold up on Spielberg releasing his films on 
Blu Ray? His films are perfect for the format. Are there some sort of 
mysterious Machiavellian machinations afoot here?

Greg Douglass



Joseph Bonelli wrote:
EMPIRE OF THE SUN (1987-- Spielberg, directing Christian Bale in 
possibly the greatest performance by a child actor ever!)

  Joe B in NOLA

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Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 8:46 AM

most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again,
share tons of loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY,
VERTIGO, etc. is on everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend? 
that is, what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the

enthusiasm of others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread jbirddouglass
I'll confess: I saw 2001 the first time in Cinerama, in 1968,  after 
taking a capsule of particularly pure blue Mescaline, a synthesized form 
of peyote. The stuff came on during the intermission, just before Hal 
began to run amuck and the light show began and all that weirdness 
started in. I was absolutely enthralled by the spectacle, but I was 
equally enthralled by the lava-like stream of tail lights on the cars 
ahead of me during a post-dusk traffic jam on the Bay Bridge in San 
Francisco as I drove myself and my girl friend back from the film. 
Sorry, Stanley.
I watched it again recently after taking a capsule of pure ibuprofen. I 
still enjoyed the film, more as a nostalgic curio than anything else, 
and my back didn't hurt once.

Greg Douglass
Kenwick Cook wrote:
In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:27:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
ilovefi...@flash.net writes:


Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told me
you just gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake of
a friend I watched it all the way through, scratched my head and
said 'huh?'.  Her comment back to me was 'it is better if you are
stoned'.Darn, maybe that is my problem with a few of these
films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am thinking about going
to the movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too much in
Popcorn and Gummy worms.

Either that or some acid... for the other folks posting, I would say 
that 2001 AND Once Upon A Time In The West also helps with mood 
ameliorating substances



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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Kenwick Cook
I'm jealous...
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Gerri Farrell

 Two best comedies ever...Ishtar...Three Amigos...no really.

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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Kenwick Cook
 
In a message dated 7/13/2009 11:27:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
justkid...@aol.com writes:

Two best comedies ever...Ishtar...Three  Amigos...no really.


Tellin' The Truth Can Be Dangerous Business
Honesty And Popular Don't Go Hand-In-Hand
If You Admit That You Can Play The Accordian
No One Will hire You In A Rock-N-Roll Band!
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Tom A. Pennock
Yes, Olivia Newton John is still very beautiful. Looking at her  singing 
MAGIC on You Tube from 1980 is fantastic. It's from The Midnight  Special. 
Yes, I agree. Beck did very little to help the film. I have a 16mm  theatrical 
print of Xanadu. Maybe if Andy Gibb had been cast it would have  boosted his 
career and he would still be alive. Very tragic for Andy and the  Gibb 
family.
 
--Tom Pennock 
 
In a message dated 7/13/2009 9:40:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ilovefi...@flash.net writes:

 
I loved both 1941  Xanadu.  I agree on Beck not being the best  pick for 
the film.  If you saw him in Warriors and then saw Xanadu you  would just be 
scratching your head  Olivia is/was such a  hottie.  As for 1941  
Belushi at his best.
 



 

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I also liked 1941, Spielberg's bomb.


 

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Xanadu (Universal, 1980) It's from the disco era so it's a  bit dated but I 
like it. Also it was Gene Kelly's last film. I like Olivia  Newton John 
too!!! Too bad they did not cast Andy Gibb opposite Olivia.  Michael Beck is 
good but I think Andy Gibb would have been  terrific.
 
--Tom Pennock 
 
 
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Wise Guys directed by DePalma


 

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We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a lot of  
defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our humble opinion  
are:
 
Return of the Living Dead
2 Days in the Valley
Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
Arlington Road
Good Will Hunting
Braindead (P. Jackson)
Deep Rising
Cube
Demon Knight
Desperado
Long Kiss Goodnight
Night Breed
Night of the Creeps
Perdita Durango
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Very Bad Things
Bound
Cabin Fever
Killing Zoe
And the list goes on and on...
 
Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!
 
Ron  Alexandra

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Sent:  Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject:  [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share  tons 
of loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO,  etc. is on 
everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?that 
is, what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of  others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Roland Lataille
The first time I smoked pot back in 68, a friend of mine said you will not feel 
anything the first time. He was wrong. We went to see Planet of the Apes, and I 
remember I couldn't understand why the men were not talking and the apes were.  

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, jbirddouglass jbirddougl...@cox.net wrote:

From: jbirddouglass jbirddougl...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:52 AM

I'll confess: I saw 2001 the first time in Cinerama, in 1968,  after taking a 
capsule of particularly pure blue Mescaline, a synthesized form of peyote. The 
stuff came on during the intermission, just before Hal began to run amuck and 
the light show began and all that weirdness started in. I was absolutely 
enthralled by the spectacle, but I was equally enthralled by the lava-like 
stream of tail lights on the cars ahead of me during a post-dusk traffic jam on 
the Bay Bridge in San Francisco as I drove myself and my girl friend back from 
the film. Sorry, Stanley.
I watched it again recently after taking a capsule of pure ibuprofen. I still 
enjoyed the film, more as a nostalgic curio than anything else, and my back 
didn't hurt once.
Greg Douglass
Kenwick Cook wrote:
 In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:27:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 ilovefi...@flash.net writes:
 
     Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told me
     you just gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake of
     a friend I watched it all the way through, scratched my head and
     said 'huh?'.  Her comment back to me was 'it is better if you are
     stoned'.    Darn, maybe that is my problem with a few of these
     films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am thinking about going
     to the movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too much in
     Popcorn and Gummy worms.
 
 Either that or some acid... for the other folks posting, I would say that 
 2001 AND Once Upon A Time In The West also helps with mood ameliorating 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Joseph Mitch
Titanic



--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Tom A. Pennock tapenn...@aol.com wrote:

From: Tom A. Pennock tapenn...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 1:04 AM



 

Xanadu (Universal, 1980) It's from the disco era so it's a bit
dated but I like it. Also it was Gene Kelly's last film. I like Olivia Newton
John too!!! Too bad they did not cast Andy Gibb opposite Olivia. Michael Beck is
good but I think Andy Gibb would have been terrific.
 
--Tom Pennock 
 

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Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:20:11
  PM
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  Cable Guy
   
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  FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


  

  We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a lot of
  defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our humble opinion
  are:
   
  Return of the Living Dead
  2 Days in the Valley
  Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
  Arlington Road
  Good Will Hunting
  Braindead (P. Jackson)
  Deep Rising
  Cube
  Demon Knight
  Desperado
  Long Kiss Goodnight
  Night Breed
  Night of the Creeps
  Perdita Durango
  Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
  Very Bad Things
  Bound
  Cabin Fever
  Killing Zoe
  And the list goes on and on...
   
  Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!
   
  Ron  Alexandra
  
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To:
MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Sent:
Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject:
[MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share
tons of loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO,
etc. is on everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend? 
that is, what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of
others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Roland Lataille
I really enjoyed it at the movie theatre but, it looses something watching it 
at home.

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From: Joseph Mitch joseph_mi...@yahoo.com
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Titanic



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From: Tom A. Pennock tapenn...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 1:04 AM



 

Xanadu (Universal, 1980) It's from the disco era so it's a bit
dated but I like it. Also it was Gene Kelly's last film. I like Olivia Newton
John too!!! Too bad they did not cast Andy Gibb opposite Olivia. Michael Beck is
good but I think Andy Gibb would have been terrific.
 
--Tom Pennock 
 

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Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:20:11
  PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO]
  FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


  
  Cable Guy
   
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  We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a lot of
  defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our humble opinion
  are:
   
  Return of the Living Dead
  2 Days in the Valley
  Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
  Arlington Road
  Good Will Hunting
  Braindead (P. Jackson)
  Deep Rising
  Cube
  Demon Knight
  Desperado
  Long Kiss Goodnight
  Night Breed
  Night of the Creeps
  Perdita Durango
  Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
  Very Bad Things
  Bound
  Cabin Fever
  Killing Zoe
  And the list goes on and on...
   
  Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!
   
  Ron  Alexandra
  
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Sent:
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Subject:
[MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share
tons of loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO,
etc. is on everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend? 
that is, what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of
others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread James Richard
Safer to drive on the Ibuprofen as well... but I know what you meant 
about those tailights. I still can't believe we did stuff like that... :)


jbirddouglass wrote:
I'll confess: I saw 2001 the first time in Cinerama, in 1968,  after 
taking a capsule of particularly pure blue Mescaline, a synthesized 
form of peyote. The stuff came on during the intermission, just before 
Hal began to run amuck and the light show began and all that weirdness 
started in. I was absolutely enthralled by the spectacle, but I was 
equally enthralled by the lava-like stream of tail lights on the cars 
ahead of me during a post-dusk traffic jam on the Bay Bridge in San 
Francisco as I drove myself and my girl friend back from the film. 
Sorry, Stanley.
I watched it again recently after taking a capsule of pure ibuprofen. 
I still enjoyed the film, more as a nostalgic curio than anything 
else, and my back didn't hurt once.

Greg Douglass
Kenwick Cook wrote:
In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:27:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
ilovefi...@flash.net writes:


Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told me
you just gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake of
a friend I watched it all the way through, scratched my head and
said 'huh?'.  Her comment back to me was 'it is better if you are
stoned'.Darn, maybe that is my problem with a few of these
films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am thinking about going
to the movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too much in
Popcorn and Gummy worms.

Either that or some acid... for the other folks posting, I would say 
that 2001 AND Once Upon A Time In The West also helps with mood 
ameliorating substances



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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread MotionPictureArt.com
I agree. Another problem with this movie is that you unfortunately can 
experience it as a serious drama/love story or as a comedy.
Another movie that loses it's magic at your home theater and suffers from the 
same problem is Showgirls by Paul Verhoeven.
Empire of the Sun is indeed a great movie. I remember going to see it when I 
was around twelve years old and did not have enough cash to buy a ticket.
Movies at that time were usually around 12.50 in Dutch Guilders, but because 
this movie was longer it was 16.50 and I only had 16 Guilders, so I had to 
return the next day to see it.
The funny thing is that matinee showings in the US are currently cheaper than 
they were back in the good old Guilder era in the Netherlands. Don't even start 
me about that Euro.
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I really enjoyed it at the movie theatre but, it looses something 
watching it at home.

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Titanic



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  Xanadu (Universal, 1980) It's from the disco era so it's a 
bit dated but I like it. Also it was Gene Kelly's last film. I like Olivia 
Newton John too!!! Too bad they did not cast Andy Gibb opposite Olivia. Michael 
Beck is good but I think Andy Gibb would have been terrific.

  --Tom Pennock 

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We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already 
needs a lot of defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our 
humble opinion are:

Return of the Living Dead
2 Days in the Valley
Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
Arlington Road
Good Will Hunting
Braindead (P. Jackson)
Deep Rising
Cube
Demon Knight
Desperado
Long Kiss Goodnight
Night Breed
Night of the Creeps
Perdita Durango
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Very Bad Things
Bound
Cabin Fever
Killing Zoe
And the list goes on and on...

Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!

Ron  Alexandra
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:46 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


  most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, 
again, share tons of loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, 
VERTIGO, etc. is on everyone's list.)

  BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to 
defend?  that is, what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of 
others?

  my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.



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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Walton, Jeffrey
A, you reminded me of Guilders and Amsterdam20 guilders - at
that time about 10USD and we went to 

tuschinski
http://www.pathe.nl/tuschinski/specials.asp?me=Ycat=Rondleid
theater...one of the most beautiful theaters I've been in...saw the main
movie in their VIP balconyyou had champagne and appetizers before
the film, beer and wine service during the film (you didn't even have to
leave your seats), and dessert and cordials after the film...all for
10USD.

 

During the Euro conversion there was suppose to be this exchange rate to
keep the same sort of inflation rate going...except Amsterdam became
this very expensive city overnight - literallymost merchants never
really did the conversion...so on menus if something was 5 Guilders
approx 2.5USD, it went to 5 EURO instantly (about 7 USD) and even higher
depending when you were thereso it more than doubled in price.

 



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I agree. Another problem with this movie is that you unfortunately can
experience it as a serious drama/love story or as a comedy.

Another movie that loses it's magic at your home theater and suffers
from the same problem is Showgirls by Paul Verhoeven.

Empire of the Sun is indeed a great movie. I remember going to see it
when I was around twelve years old and did not have enough cash to buy a
ticket.

Movies at that time were usually around 12.50 in Dutch Guilders, but
because this movie was longer it was 16.50 and I only had 16 Guilders,
so I had to return the next day to see it.

The funny thing is that matinee showings in the US are currently cheaper
than they were back in the good old Guilder era in the Netherlands.
Don't even start me about that Euro.

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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 7:53 PM

Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

 

I really enjoyed it at the movie theatre but, it looses something
watching it at home.

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Titanic



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Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 1:04 AM

Xanadu (Universal, 1980) It's from the disco era so it's a bit dated but
I like it. Also it was Gene Kelly's last film. I like Olivia Newton John
too!!! Too bad they did not cast Andy Gibb opposite Olivia. Michael Beck
is good but I think Andy Gibb would have been terrific.

 

--Tom Pennock 

 

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fly...@pacbell.net writes:

Wise Guys directed by DePalma

 





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Hudsucker Proxy

 





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Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:03:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a
lot of defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our
humble opinion are:

 

Return of the Living Dead

2 Days in the Valley

Thing to do in Denver when you are dead

Arlington Road

Good Will Hunting

Braindead (P. Jackson)

Deep Rising

Cube

Demon Knight

Desperado

Long Kiss Goodnight

Night Breed

Night of the Creeps

Perdita Durango

Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2

Very Bad Things

Bound

Cabin Fever

Killing Zoe

And the list goes on and on...

 

Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!

 

Ron  Alexandra

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From: Michael B 

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:46 PM

Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

 

most of our favorite films that we watch over and over,
again, share

Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread James Richard
I agree that Spielberg's War of the Words and the original theatrical 
release of Dune are both worthy of defense. I still like the original 
release of Dune better than the subsequent director's cuts. It was 
clean, it was direct, it flowed well and it let people who had never 
read the book understand what the heck was going on.


As for War of the Worlds... sure, it's flawed in a lot of ways, but 
still one great ride and so very different from the 1953 film that they 
are two completely different things. By the way, the reason Tom Cruise's 
car was the only one that ran was because it was an older model that did 
not have any computer chips in the ignition system or motor -- the 
computer chips in all the other vehicles had been fried by the big 
electro-magnetic pulse the Martians put out. A nice way to get him a car 
when no one else had one, I thought, although Spielberg did a bad job of 
explaining it. Some people think it was because the garage guy had fixed 
the car (replaced the computer chip) after the pulse, but that doesn't 
fly because the replacement computer chip would have been fried when it 
was sitting on the garage shelf and so when the mechanic put in it still 
wouldn't have worked.


I second the motion that Tom's idiot teenage son should have stayed 
toast at the end.


-- JR

aaroncba...@fuse.net wrote:
I am enjoying this discussion.  
I always feel the need to defend War of the Worlds (Spielberg's).  I think it is a better and more interesting film than most people give it credit for.  I firmly believe that the entire film is a dream (e.g. Invaders from Mars)- Tom Cruise's dream.  He falls asleep and then everything starts happening.  The entire film is an exaggerated nightmare- his worst nightmare- his parental abilities are tested to the extreme.  The very beginning of the film lays out the fact that he is a questionable parent at best.  Then, throughout the nightmare, he is faced with parents' worst  fears realized (best e.g. is the scene where Cruise is simultaneously dealing with strangers trying to take his daughter and his son being pulled inexplicably towards the military- both primal parental fears).  By film's end he proves his parental prowess and in one of the most maligned scenes in the film (the last scene) he hand  delivers his children back to his wife safe with his judgmental in-laws th!

er!
 e to lay witness.  To me this was absolutely Spielberg's intent.  Throughout, the film works more in the realm of dream logic (e.g. Cruise's car is the ONLY one that works).  
If you are still reading, I also find myself defending Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut for one very specific and unique reason:  I firmly believe that the film is one big cosmic joke- a black comedy -that even the critics, as far as I could tell, missed entirely.  In the simplest of terms it is a story of a husband who get's so jealous about his wife having an imaginary tryst that he spends the rest of the film trying to get laid and he CAN'T! Mr.Tom-universal-sex-symbol-Cruise cannot get laid!  And the most exaggerated case in point is that he ends up going to a super deluxe orgy and he STILL can't get laid.  I think Kubrick threw a curve ball at us before he died.  A very funny curve ball.


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Dave Rosen
Never mind the son. The daughter has to have been one of the most annoying 
child characters ever to have graced the screen...and I include Baby Leroy 
in that.


Her whiny, high-pitched screaming was one of the many things that marred the 
movie, along with Tim Robbins extended over-the-top nutbar performance.


I liked the first half of the film but found most parts of the second half 
laughably bad. On the other hand, there were some remarkable set-pieces that 
are almost worth re-watching the movie for: the car-jacking scene, the ferry 
scene and the walk through the debris from the crashed airliner. Too bad 
they weren't in a better movie.


Dave

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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


I agree that Spielberg's War of the Words and the original theatrical 
release of Dune are both worthy of defense. I still like the original 
release of Dune better than the subsequent director's cuts. It was clean, 
it was direct, it flowed well and it let people who had never read the book 
understand what the heck was going on.


As for War of the Worlds... sure, it's flawed in a lot of ways, but still 
one great ride and so very different from the 1953 film that they are two 
completely different things. By the way, the reason Tom Cruise's car was 
the only one that ran was because it was an older model that did not have 
any computer chips in the ignition system or motor -- the computer chips 
in all the other vehicles had been fried by the big electro-magnetic pulse 
the Martians put out. A nice way to get him a car when no one else had 
one, I thought, although Spielberg did a bad job of explaining it. Some 
people think it was because the garage guy had fixed the car (replaced the 
computer chip) after the pulse, but that doesn't fly because the 
replacement computer chip would have been fried when it was sitting on the 
garage shelf and so when the mechanic put in it still wouldn't have 
worked.


I second the motion that Tom's idiot teenage son should have stayed toast 
at the end.


-- JR

aaroncba...@fuse.net wrote:
I am enjoying this discussion.  I always feel the need to defend War of 
the Worlds (Spielberg's).  I think it is a better and more interesting 
film than most people give it credit for.  I firmly believe that the 
entire film is a dream (e.g. Invaders from Mars)- Tom Cruise's dream.  He 
falls asleep and then everything starts happening.  The entire film is an 
exaggerated nightmare- his worst nightmare- his parental abilities are 
tested to the extreme.  The very beginning of the film lays out the fact 
that he is a questionable parent at best.  Then, throughout the 
nightmare, he is faced with parents' worst  fears realized (best e.g. is 
the scene where Cruise is simultaneously dealing with strangers trying to 
take his daughter and his son being pulled inexplicably towards the 
military- both primal parental fears).  By film's end he proves his 
parental prowess and in one of the most maligned scenes in the film (the 
last scene) he hand  delivers his children back to his wife safe with his 
judgmental in-laws th!

er!
 e to lay witness.  To me this was absolutely Spielberg's intent. 
Throughout, the film works more in the realm of dream logic (e.g. 
Cruise's car is the ONLY one that works).  If you are still reading, I 
also find myself defending Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut for one very specific 
and unique reason:  I firmly believe that the film is one big cosmic 
joke- a black comedy -that even the critics, as far as I could tell, 
missed entirely.  In the simplest of terms it is a story of a husband who 
get's so jealous about his wife having an imaginary tryst that he spends 
the rest of the film trying to get laid and he CAN'T! 
Mr.Tom-universal-sex-symbol-Cruise cannot get laid!  And the most 
exaggerated case in point is that he ends up going to a super deluxe orgy 
and he STILL can't get laid.  I think Kubrick threw a curve ball at us 
before he died.  A very funny curve ball.


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Toochis Morin
I agree with JR on these.  The opening to War of the Worlds was thrilling.  
Also Dune is a visual feast of marvel and disgust.  It got a rise out of me.

Toochis





From: Dave Rosen hah...@sympatico.ca
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:48:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

Never mind the son. The daughter has to have been one of the most annoying 
child characters ever to have graced the screen...and I include Baby Leroy in 
that.

Her whiny, high-pitched screaming was one of the many things that marred the 
movie, along with Tim Robbins extended over-the-top nutbar performance.

I liked the first half of the film but found most parts of the second half 
laughably bad. On the other hand, there were some remarkable set-pieces that 
are almost worth re-watching the movie for: the car-jacking scene, the ferry 
scene and the walk through the debris from the crashed airliner. Too bad they 
weren't in a better movie.

Dave

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To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


 I agree that Spielberg's War of the Words and the original theatrical release 
 of Dune are both worthy of defense. I still like the original release of Dune 
 better than the subsequent director's cuts. It was clean, it was direct, it 
 flowed well and it let people who had never read the book understand what the 
 heck was going on.
 
 As for War of the Worlds... sure, it's flawed in a lot of ways, but still one 
 great ride and so very different from the 1953 film that they are two 
 completely different things. By the way, the reason Tom Cruise's car was the 
 only one that ran was because it was an older model that did not have any 
 computer chips in the ignition system or motor -- the computer chips in all 
 the other vehicles had been fried by the big electro-magnetic pulse the 
 Martians put out. A nice way to get him a car when no one else had one, I 
 thought, although Spielberg did a bad job of explaining it. Some people think 
 it was because the garage guy had fixed the car (replaced the computer chip) 
 after the pulse, but that doesn't fly because the replacement computer chip 
 would have been fried when it was sitting on the garage shelf and so when the 
 mechanic put in it still wouldn't have worked.
 
 I second the motion that Tom's idiot teenage son should have stayed toast at 
 the end.
 
 -- JR
 
 aaroncba...@fuse.net wrote:
 I am enjoying this discussion.  I always feel the need to defend War of the 
 Worlds (Spielberg's).  I think it is a better and more interesting film than 
 most people give it credit for.  I firmly believe that the entire film is a 
 dream (e.g. Invaders from Mars)- Tom Cruise's dream.  He falls asleep and 
 then everything starts happening.  The entire film is an exaggerated 
 nightmare- his worst nightmare- his parental abilities are tested to the 
 extreme.  The very beginning of the film lays out the fact that he is a 
 questionable parent at best.  Then, throughout the nightmare, he is faced 
 with parents' worst  fears realized (best e.g. is the scene where Cruise is 
 simultaneously dealing with strangers trying to take his daughter and his 
 son being pulled inexplicably towards the military- both primal parental 
 fears).  By film's end he proves his parental prowess and in one of the most 
 maligned scenes in the film (the last scene) he hand  delivers his
 children back to his wife safe with his judgmental in-laws th!
 er!
  e to lay witness.  To me this was absolutely Spielberg's intent. 
 Throughout, the film works more in the realm of dream logic (e.g. Cruise's 
 car is the ONLY one that works).  If you are still reading, I also find 
 myself defending Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut for one very specific and unique 
 reason:  I firmly believe that the film is one big cosmic joke- a black 
 comedy -that even the critics, as far as I could tell, missed entirely.  In 
 the simplest of terms it is a story of a husband who get's so jealous about 
 his wife having an imaginary tryst that he spends the rest of the film 
 trying to get laid and he CAN'T! Mr.Tom-universal-sex-symbol-Cruise cannot 
 get laid!  And the most exaggerated case in point is that he ends up going 
 to a super deluxe orgy and he STILL can't get laid.  I think Kubrick threw a 
 curve ball at us before he died.  A very funny curve ball.
 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art
Dune is an outstanding movie made from an incredibly complex book 
series and considering how difficult it must have been to make a good 
screenplay, I think David Lynch did a fabulous job


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Kenwick Cook
 
In a message dated 7/13/2009 2:29:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jrl...@mediabearonline.com writes:

I still  like the original 
release of Dune better than the subsequent director's  cuts. It was 
clean, it was direct, it flowed well and it let people who  had never 
read the book understand what the heck was going  on.


Indeed... that's because the only other version than the theatrical  one 
was An Alan Smithee Film, which is a polar-opposite of a 'director's  cut'.
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Paul Gerrard
 
I've always liked Empire of the Sun too, despite the criticisms levelled at 
 it that it's too sanitized. One big Spielberg movie I never got into, 
though, is  Close Encounters - apart from anything else, I just can't take the 
ending  seriously.
On the other hand I really enjoy Coppola's One From The Heart,  but would 
have a hard time knowing how to defend that particular  turkey. Las Vegas 
re-created in a studio set (why?), Tom Waits duetting  with Crystal Gayle 
(what??), a fairly cliched plotline  with unsympathetic characters. Not exactly 
The Godfather or Apocalypse Now,  but I like it.
 
Paul
 
 
In a message dated 13/07/2009 16:09:23 GMT Daylight Time,  
aaroncba...@fuse.net writes:

I  agree!  This was a another Spielberg film that critics missed the boat  
on.  The critics crabbed about all of the over-the-top scenes (e.g. Jamie  
touches the plane amid a shower of welding sparks and then the pilots salute  
him) but that was exactly the point- the second world war as seen through 
the  eyes of a spoiled child who's only coping mechanism was to create 
fantasy out  of reality.  A really wonderful film.  One of the last films to 
have  
that kind of epic scale (before CGI made it more cost effective). So many  
great big scenes with thousands of extras.  Definitely one of Spielberg's  
most underrated films. 





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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Kenwick Cook
I, too, find One From The Heart one of the most underrated films of all  
time. The wife and I pulled out the dvd last 4th of July and the extras are  
worth checking out for anyone interested in independent  filmmaking. 
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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread Joseph Bonelli
Don't do it, Rick!  The goddam texting-teens will ruin your high-- as well as 
your movie!!
 
Joe B in NOLA

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From: Richard Auras ilovefi...@flash.net
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:26 AM






Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told me you just 
gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake of a friend I watched it 
all the way through, scratched my head and said 'huh?'.  Her comment back to me 
was 'it is better if you are stoned'.    Darn, maybe that is my problem with a 
few of these films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am thinking about going 
to the movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too much in Popcorn and Gummy 
worms.
 
 Rick
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


DUNE: Everyone hated it but me... including Lynch himself
 
although ERASERHEAD is a cult classic and all, I still find myself having to 
defend it often.
 
Still thinking about my the other side of the coin choices



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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-13 Thread CK MacLeod
Right there with you all on Spielberg's WotW.  Actually one of my favorite
Spielberg films.  Once upon a time, I liked to defend JURASSIC PARK over
SCHINDLER'S LIST, but that was probly just to piss people off.

I'll put STARSHIP TROOPERS on the list.  Do you get me?

While we're talking widely unliked sci-fi, I dug both of the last two ALIEN
films, even if I had difficulty forgiving them for killing off the girl.

Hey, how about ARMAGEDDON?  I find it quite hilarious.  If I had the time I
might be able to make a case for its secret depths.  Anyway, the destruction
of the dinosaurs opening narrated by Charlton Heston was like the best ever
science class movie.


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Don't do it, Rick!  The goddam texting-teens will ruin your high-- as well
as your movie!!

Joe B in NOLA

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Richard Auras ilovefi...@flash.net wrote:

From: Richard Auras ilovefi...@flash.net
Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:26 AM
Back in my laserdisc days I was at a friends house and she told me you just
gotta watch this film called Eraserhead.  For the sake of a friend I watched
it all the way through, scratched my head and said 'huh?'.  Her comment back
to me was 'it is better if you are stoned'.Darn, maybe that is my
problem with a few of these films I don't get.  Anyone got a joint, I am
thinking about going to the movies.  Better not.  It would cost me too
much in Popcorn and Gummy worms.

 Rick
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DUNE: Everyone hated it but me... including Lynch himself

although ERASERHEAD is a cult classic and all, I still find myself having to
defend it often.

Still thinking about my the other side of the coin choices

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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-12 Thread MotionPictureArt.com
We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a lot of 
defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our humble opinion 
are:

Return of the Living Dead
2 Days in the Valley
Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
Arlington Road
Good Will Hunting
Braindead (P. Jackson)
Deep Rising
Cube
Demon Knight
Desperado
Long Kiss Goodnight
Night Breed
Night of the Creeps
Perdita Durango
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Very Bad Things
Bound
Cabin Fever
Killing Zoe
And the list goes on and on...

Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!

Ron  Alexandra
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  Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:46 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND


  most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share tons of 
loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc. is on 
everyone's list.)

  BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?  that is, what 
film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others?

  my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.



  michael


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-12 Thread Franc
For The Paradine Case, you need armour. FRANC

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most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share
tons of loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc.
is on everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?  that is,
what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
michael


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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-12 Thread Toochis Morin
I dig all of these.cool list!

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Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND

2009-07-12 Thread Toochis Morin
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We are mostly into post-1970 movies, that alone already needs a lot of 
defending ;-), and a few titles that a worth defending in our humble opinion 
are:
 
Return of the Living Dead
2 Days in the Valley
Thing to do in Denver when you are dead
Arlington Road
Good Will Hunting
Braindead (P. Jackson)
Deep Rising
Cube
Demon Knight
Desperado
Long Kiss Goodnight
Night Breed
Night of the Creeps
Perdita Durango
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Very Bad Things
Bound
Cabin Fever
Killing Zoe
And the list goes on and on...
 
Not familiar with any of these titles? Go rent/buy them now!
 
Ron  Alexandra
- Original Message - 
From: Michael B 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share tons of 
loyalty by others.  (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc. is on 
everyone's list.)
 
BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend?  that is, what 
film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others?
 
my answer is THE PARADINE CASE.
 
 
 
michael 



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