Re: [mssms] Re: ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec

[Shane Alexander]

Manual download of O365 updates was fine.


When the ADR (with same O365 updates) ran it wouldn't finish / wouldn't 
download / caused the crash.


Some obviously had this issue before Nov.  And that UR1 for v1606 doesn't 
necessarily fix it.


One of the links below says something interesting.

"Problem solved!  KB3159706 was installed on the SUP but not on the Primary 
Site Server."
We've now installed that too, have set up a new ADR (same O365 update selection 
criteria) to download to a new package, and let ADR kick off automatically ... 
and it has downloaded both OK and no errors/crashes.


16.0.6965.2105 "Office 365 Client Update - Deferred Channel (1605-8) 32-bit 
Edition"

16.0.7466.2038 "Office 365 Client Update - Current Channel (1610-4) 32-bit 
Edition"

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/cee43df4-7281-4b8c-a685-bd486667a5bb/sccm-2012-1606-not-recieving-office-365-client-updates?forum=configmanagersecurity


https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/1a362764-e646-44c5-8a69-c4e1358b513b/office-2016-updates-not-downloadinginstalling?forum=ConfigMgrCompliance


https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/11f69a82-9f3e-4637-b7ec-75bf7f04d86f/office-365-updates-not-downloadinginstalling-sccm-1606?forum=ConfigMgrCompliance





From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  on behalf 
of Marcum, John 
Sent: Monday, 21 November 2016 11:32 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Re: ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec

I noticed one of the O365 updates wouldn't download this month. Maybe that's 
the problem ?

Typos compliments of Siri
Sent from my iOS device

On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:45 AM, Shane Alexander 
> wrote:

[External Email]


Same issue here.


Only seemed to start when the ADR ran this month.  Last month was OK.  
ConfigMgr is v1606 (not UR1).  Other ADR's (without O365 updates selected) work 
OK.


Did you get a fix ?


Some out there say it is fixed by UR1, but others on the same link say it 
doesn't fix it.


Don't know if v1610 will fix it.


Shane



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> on 
behalf of Krueger, Jeff >
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2016 5:07 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec


Got a weird one for you guys.  I'm seeing when running an Automatic Deployment 
Rule for Office 365 updates it keeps crashing SMSExec.  Not seeing any errors 
in any of the SCCM logs the only thing we can see is in the Application event 
logs we see an application error with event ID 1000 with the following details:

Faulting application name: smsexec.exe, version: 5.0.8412.1000, time stamp: 
0x5768bbe5

Faulting module name: Patchdownloader.dll, version: 5.0.8412.1000, time stamp: 
0x5768bb9c

Exception code: 0xc005

Fault offset: 0xbb54

Faulting process id: 0x1ccc

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1fe37c1989f0b

Faulting application path: D:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration 
Manager\bin\x64\smsexec.exe

Faulting module path: D:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration 
Manager\bin\x64\Patchdownloader.dll

Report Id: 31adf52f-6a2b-11e6-9308-005056913f8f



The ruleengine.log file shows that it is starting to download and then 
everything just stops

CRuleHandler: Processing Rule with ID:12, Name:Office 365 Patching. 
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Evaluating Update Criteria for AutoDeployment Rule 12   SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Evaluating Update Criteria... SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM
6588 (0x19BC)

Rule Criteria is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; Name="SMS_SoftwareUpdate" 
LocaleId="1033">0:0:14:0'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b'
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

XML Schema instance namespace - 
w3.org
www.w3.org
$Date: 2001/03/16 20:25:57 $ $Id: XMLSchema-instance.xsd,v 1.4 2001/03/16 
20:25:57 ht Exp $ This schema should never be used as such: the XML ...



XML Schema - World Wide Web Consortium
www.w3.org
Introduction. This document describes the XML Schema namespace. It also 
contains a directory of links to these related resources, using Resource 
Directory Description ...




  Inserting PropertyName:DateRevised, PropertyValue:0:0:14:0
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Inserting PropertyName:_Product, 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

Winna winna, chicken dinna! Thank you! I’ll set up a GPO to handle this via 
registry.  J

 

Mike

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ketterman, Frank
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:39 PM
To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' 
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

If you OS is Windows 8/8.1/10 then turn off ‘fast startup’.  Once you do this 
S5 wake on LAN should work just fine.  Failure to do so, will result in Windows 
turning off the NIC irrespective of your BIOS and NIC Power settings.  See this 
article; https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2776718

 

Frank Ketterman

OA-ITSD-SDC

Desktop Services

Desktop Management Team

W: (573)526-1880

Desktop Management Hunt Group Number

(573)751-4594

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From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 14:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

No, that’s the problem. The NIC light is off. I’ve disabled deep sleep and 
enabled WOL in BIOS.  :/

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:04 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?

I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine

I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS

When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

 

Shane

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

What model is the machine? 

We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold… 

Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model) 

  

Shane 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem. 

  

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote: 

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states: 

  

These systems 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

This was it. Thanks.  J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:12 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Sorry if this has been noted before (it’s a long thread), but have y’all seen 
or tried this https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2776718 ?

 

J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:58 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

I tried 3 ways:

 

· CM 2012 app with “wake on LAN” checked in the deployment.

· Right click tools WOL via CM console.

· Wake on LAN util from depicus.com

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Art Flores
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:45 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

How are you sending the magic packet for your WOL tests?

 

I have a similar issue with the Dell 9020, if I send the magic packet from Win7 
using the Cireson Remote Manage app, the 9020 does NOT wake up, if I send the 
magic packet from a Win10 VM using the same version of the Cireson Remote 
Manage app, the 9020 does wake up.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?

I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine

I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS

When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

 

Shane

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

What model is the machine? 

We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold… 

Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model) 

  

Shane 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem. 

  

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote: 

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states: 

  

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN. 

  

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do? 

  

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Ketterman, Frank]

If you OS is Windows 8/8.1/10 then turn off ‘fast startup’.  Once you do this 
S5 wake on LAN should work just fine.  Failure to do so, will result in Windows 
turning off the NIC irrespective of your BIOS and NIC Power settings.  See this 
article; https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2776718

Frank Ketterman
OA-ITSD-SDC
Desktop Services
Desktop Management Team
W: (573)526-1880
Desktop Management Hunt Group Number
(573)751-4594
CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT:
This electronic transmission may contain information that is confidential, 
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From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 14:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

No, that’s the problem. The NIC light is off. I’ve disabled deep sleep and 
enabled WOL in BIOS.  :/

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:04 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?
I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine
I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS
When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

What model is the machine?
We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold…
Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: 

Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Ryan]

Also, if you try the above script, you'll need to reboot once before it
takes effect (the same with any NIC changes in the OS). One reboot to apply
the change, then you can shut down and test.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 3:34 PM Ryan  wrote:

> Are they Intel NICs? If it is, does it have the WOL setting "Wake on Magic
> Packet from Power Off" in advanced properties on the NIC?
>
> http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-part-two/
>
> If not, and if it's an Intel NIC, you might want to try the registry hack
> I have posted at that link to enable it. Here's the script I've run to
> enable it on hundreds of Dell computers:
>
> $Index = $null
> $query = "select * from Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration Where IPEnabled
> = 'True'"
> Get-WmiObject -Query $query | ForEach-Object {
> $Index = $_.Index
> if ($Index.Length -ne 4) {
> do {
> $Index = "0$Index"
> } while ($Index.Length -lt 4)
> }
> Set-ItemProperty -Path
> "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\$Index"
> -Name "EnablePME" -Value "1" -Type "String" -Force
> }
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 3:24 PM Murray, Mike  wrote:
>
> No, that’s the problem. The NIC light is off. I’ve disabled deep sleep and
> enabled WOL in BIOS.  :/
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Shane McKeown
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 11:04 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>
>
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine
> is fully powered off?
>
> I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine
>
> I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS
>
> When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights
> on the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you
> are on the right path…
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
>
>
> *Sent:* 21 November 2016 17:17
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Shane McKeown
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> What model is the machine?
>
> We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from
> sleep but not from cold…
>
> Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
>
>
> *Sent:* 21 November 2016 16:31
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when
> powered off.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL
> packet sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from
> the CM server and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a
> network problem.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  wrote:
>
> OK, after working with our network team, WOL **does** work from CM, but
> only when a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and
> it still wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep
> Control was enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might
> work, but it did not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will
> not wake. The article also states:
>
>
>
> These systems should wake from the System Power States: *Sleep (S3)* or 
> *Hibernate
> (S4).* The *SHUTDOWN (S5)*power state is not supported in Windows 7 and 
> *SHUTDOWN
> (S5)* and *Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4)* power states are not supported in
> Windows 8 for Wake-On-LAN.
>
>
>
> Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> View page three of my 

Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Ryan]

Are they Intel NICs? If it is, does it have the WOL setting "Wake on Magic
Packet from Power Off" in advanced properties on the NIC?

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-part-two/

If not, and if it's an Intel NIC, you might want to try the registry hack I
have posted at that link to enable it. Here's the script I've run to enable
it on hundreds of Dell computers:

$Index = $null
$query = "select * from Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration Where IPEnabled =
'True'"
Get-WmiObject -Query $query | ForEach-Object {
$Index = $_.Index
if ($Index.Length -ne 4) {
do {
$Index = "0$Index"
} while ($Index.Length -lt 4)
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path
"HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\$Index"
-Name "EnablePME" -Value "1" -Type "String" -Force
}



On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 3:24 PM Murray, Mike  wrote:

> No, that’s the problem. The NIC light is off. I’ve disabled deep sleep and
> enabled WOL in BIOS.  :/
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Shane McKeown
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 11:04 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>
>
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine
> is fully powered off?
>
> I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine
>
> I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS
>
> When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights
> on the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you
> are on the right path…
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
>
>
> *Sent:* 21 November 2016 17:17
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Shane McKeown
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> What model is the machine?
>
> We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from
> sleep but not from cold…
>
> Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
>
>
> *Sent:* 21 November 2016 16:31
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when
> powered off.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL
> packet sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from
> the CM server and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a
> network problem.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  wrote:
>
> OK, after working with our network team, WOL **does** work from CM, but
> only when a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and
> it still wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep
> Control was enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might
> work, but it did not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will
> not wake. The article also states:
>
>
>
> These systems should wake from the System Power States: *Sleep (S3)* or 
> *Hibernate
> (S4).* The *SHUTDOWN (S5)*power state is not supported in Windows 7 and 
> *SHUTDOWN
> (S5)* and *Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4)* power states are not supported in
> Windows 8 for Wake-On-LAN.
>
>
>
> Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/
>
>
>
> Is the NIC On:
>
> If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network
> cord is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power.
> Because of this, 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

No, that’s the problem. The NIC light is off. I’ve disabled deep sleep and 
enabled WOL in BIOS.  :/

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:04 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?

I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine

I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS

When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

 

Shane

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

What model is the machine? 

We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold… 

Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model) 

  

Shane 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem. 

  

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote: 

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states: 

  

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN. 

  

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do? 

  

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN 

  

  

Mike 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM: 

  

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/
 

  

Is the NIC On: 

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem. 

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem: 

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Jason Sandys]

Sorry if this has been noted before (it’s a long thread), but have y’all seen 
or tried this https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2776718 ?

J

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:58 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

I tried 3 ways:


· CM 2012 app with “wake on LAN” checked in the deployment.

· Right click tools WOL via CM console.

· Wake on LAN util from depicus.com

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Art Flores
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:45 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

How are you sending the magic packet for your WOL tests?

I have a similar issue with the Dell 9020, if I send the magic packet from Win7 
using the Cireson Remote Manage app, the 9020 does NOT wake up, if I send the 
magic packet from a Win10 VM using the same version of the Cireson Remote 
Manage app, the 9020 does wake up.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?
I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine
I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS
When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

What model is the machine?
We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold…
Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Marcum, John]

1e has a good little free tool for this too. Actually I am VERY surprised none 
of the 1e guys have commented on this thread, I am sure they know the answer.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:58 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

I tried 3 ways:


· CM 2012 app with “wake on LAN” checked in the deployment.

· Right click tools WOL via CM console.

· Wake on LAN util from depicus.com

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Art Flores
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:45 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

How are you sending the magic packet for your WOL tests?

I have a similar issue with the Dell 9020, if I send the magic packet from Win7 
using the Cireson Remote Manage app, the 9020 does NOT wake up, if I send the 
magic packet from a Win10 VM using the same version of the Cireson Remote 
Manage app, the 9020 does wake up.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?
I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine
I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS
When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

What model is the machine?
We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold…
Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

I tried 3 ways:

 

· CM 2012 app with “wake on LAN” checked in the deployment.

· Right click tools WOL via CM console.

· Wake on LAN util from depicus.com

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Art Flores
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:45 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

How are you sending the magic packet for your WOL tests?

 

I have a similar issue with the Dell 9020, if I send the magic packet from Win7 
using the Cireson Remote Manage app, the 9020 does NOT wake up, if I send the 
magic packet from a Win10 VM using the same version of the Cireson Remote 
Manage app, the 9020 does wake up.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?

I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine

I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS

When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

 

Shane

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

What model is the machine? 

We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold… 

Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model) 

  

Shane 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem. 

  

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote: 

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states: 

  

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN. 

  

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do? 

  

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN 

  

  

Mike 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM: 

  

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/
 

  

Is the NIC On: 

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Marcum, John]

Not sure how you interpreted what I said any differently than what the article 
said. My comments were directly copied and pasted from the article.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

I was replying to your statement of:

No they are saying Windows doesn’t support it. “This change is due to Microsoft 
design changes in Windows 7 & Windows 8”

That's why I was saying WOL works on Windows 7, 8, and 10 from shutdown mode. 
It wasn't in response to the article, it was in response to you.

The article states that newer Dell models are not supported to wake from 
shutdown. At least that's how I interpret this:

The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN (S5) 
and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.  '

The annoying thing is it's up to the computer manufacturer to enable WOL from 
S4 and S5. Microsoft doesn't support it because of how Windows works. In those 
states, there's no Windows running to manage hardware devices to wake up the 
machine. When it's in Sleep mode, Windows is still running in the background, 
just a very low powered version. It watches for wake commands and then will 
turn back on when it sees one.

If Dell had properly configured BIOS / drivers, it would work fine. Here's 
Microsoft's support statement on it:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa373229(v=vs.85).aspx

Note  WOL is not officially supported from soft off (S5). However, the BIOS on 
some systems may support arming NICs for wake, even though Windows is not 
involved in the process.

While I've worked with WOL, I've noticed some versions of drivers will 
interrupt this process. If during shutdown the OS powers off the NIC, BIOS will 
not always be able to turn the NIC back on after it's in S5. You need a driver 
that stops Windows from turning off the NIC at shutdown. In my article, I 
address this:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-part-two/

If you are using an Intel NIC, there MAY be another setting there called Wake 
on Magic Packet from power off state. This could also show up on the Power 
Management tab. Enable this setting also to make sure you can wake up the 
computer. This particular setting affects the computer when it is powered off, 
not sleep mode. Windows can put the NIC in a low power mode when the computer 
is shut down, and if it does you won’t be able to wake up the computer. From 
what I’ve seen, most Intel NICs have this setting, but you don’t always see the 
option in the properties of the NIC. If you don’t see it, you will need to 
enable it in the registry. More on that below…

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM Marcum, John 
> wrote:
You’ve incorrectly commented twice on the article which tells me you didn’t 
even read it. Go read the article…..

Dell has received complaints that newer model systems (OptiPlex 790, 7010 & 
9010 desktop & mini-tower system models for example) will not Wake-On-LAN (WOL) 
from a power off state

Modern improvements in power management of computer systems have caused 
problems for some system users as the newer model systems do not react to Wake 
On LAN requests in the same manner as older models due to WOL behavior changes 
in the Windows 7 and Windows 8 operating systems



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:44 PM

To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


So no computer with Windows 7+ can WOL from shutdown? I call BS.

The guide I wrote was specifically written for Windows 7 on Dells. I had 10 of 
their models walking up from shutdown. The only catch was to disable deep 
shutdown.

I've also worked on Lenovo computers with Windows 8.1 and had them working. My 
home built media center with Windows 10 wakes up from shutdown by WOL.

Unless something changed, it works if the driver supports it.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016, 12:30 PM Marcum, John 
> wrote:
No they are saying Windows doesn’t support it. “This change is due to Microsoft 
design changes in Windows 7 & Windows 8”



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:15 PM

To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[External Email]
Is Dell seriously saying they no longer support waking up computers from a 
powered 

Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Ryan]

I was replying to your statement of:

*No they are saying Windows doesn’t support it. “This change is due to
Microsoft design changes in Windows 7 & Windows 8” *

That's why I was saying WOL works on Windows 7, 8, and 10 from shutdown
mode. It wasn't in response to the article, it was in response to you.

The article states that newer Dell models are not supported to wake from
shutdown. At least that's how I interpret this:

*The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8
for Wake-On-LAN.  '*

The annoying thing is it's up to the computer manufacturer to enable WOL
from S4 and S5. Microsoft doesn't support it because of how Windows works.
In those states, there's no Windows running to manage hardware devices to
wake up the machine. When it's in Sleep mode, Windows is still running in
the background, just a very low powered version. It watches for wake
commands and then will turn back on when it sees one.

If Dell had properly configured BIOS / drivers, it would work fine. Here's
Microsoft's support statement on it:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa373229(v=vs.85).aspx


*Note  WOL is not officially supported from soft off (S5). However, the
BIOS on some systems may support arming NICs for wake, even though Windows
is not involved in the process.  *

While I've worked with WOL, I've noticed some versions of drivers will
interrupt this process. If during shutdown the OS powers off the NIC, BIOS
will not always be able to turn the NIC back on after it's in S5. You need
a driver that stops Windows from turning off the NIC at shutdown. In my
article, I address this:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-part-two/

*If you are using an Intel NIC, there MAY be another setting there called
Wake on Magic Packet from power off state. This could also show up on the
Power Management tab. Enable this setting also to make sure you can wake up
the computer. This particular setting affects the computer when it is
powered off, not sleep mode. Windows can put the NIC in a low power mode
when the computer is shut down, and if it does you won’t be able to wake up
the computer. From what I’ve seen, most Intel NICs have this setting, but
you don’t always see the option in the properties of the NIC. If you don’t
see it, you will need to enable it in the registry. More on that below…  *

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM Marcum, John  wrote:

> You’ve incorrectly commented twice on the article which tells me you
> didn’t even read it. Go read the article…..
>
>
>
> Dell has received complaints that newer model systems (OptiPlex 790, 7010
> & 9010 desktop & mini-tower system models for example) will not Wake-On-LAN
> (WOL) from a power off state
>
>
>
> Modern improvements in power management of computer systems have caused
> problems for some system users as the newer model systems do not react to
> Wake On LAN requests in the same manner as older models due to WOL
> behavior changes in the Windows 7 and Windows 8 operating systems
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 12:44 PM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> So no computer with Windows 7+ can WOL from shutdown? I call BS.
>
> The guide I wrote was specifically written for Windows 7 on Dells. I had
> 10 of their models walking up from shutdown. The only catch was to disable
> deep shutdown.
>
> I've also worked on Lenovo computers with Windows 8.1 and had them
> working. My home built media center with Windows 10 wakes up from shutdown
> by WOL.
>
> Unless something changed, it works if the driver supports it.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016, 12:30 PM Marcum, John  wrote:
>
> No they are saying Windows doesn’t support it. “This change is due to
> Microsoft design changes in Windows 7 & Windows 8”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 12:15 PM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> *[External Email]*
>
> Is Dell seriously saying they no longer support waking up computers from a
> powered off state?
>
>
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:10 PM Marcum, John  wrote:
>
> On Windows 7? That’s not how I interpret this:
>
>
>
> The *SHUTDOWN (S5)*power state is not supported in Windows 7
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 11:16 AM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> We have disabled 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Art Flores]

How are you sending the magic packet for your WOL tests?

I have a similar issue with the Dell 9020, if I send the magic packet from Win7 
using the Cireson Remote Manage app, the 9020 does NOT wake up, if I send the 
magic packet from a Win10 VM using the same version of the Cireson Remote 
Manage app, the 9020 does wake up.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?
I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine
I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS
When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

What model is the machine?
We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold…
Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/


Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Shane McKeown]

Ok so did you confirm if you can see the NIC led blinking when the machine is 
fully powered off?
I have various OptiPlex models and they all seem to work fine
I’ve disabled Deep sleep and enabled WOL option in BIOS
When machine is switched off and I plug in a network cable the led lights on 
the nic…this is the first step in confirming that at the BIOS level you are on 
the right path…

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 17:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

What model is the machine?
We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold…
Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/


Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike 
> wrote:
Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers

We have WOL 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Marcum, John]

You’ve incorrectly commented twice on the article which tells me you didn’t 
even read it. Go read the article…..

Dell has received complaints that newer model systems (OptiPlex 790, 7010 & 
9010 desktop & mini-tower system models for example) will not Wake-On-LAN (WOL) 
from a power off state

Modern improvements in power management of computer systems have caused 
problems for some system users as the newer model systems do not react to Wake 
On LAN requests in the same manner as older models due to WOL behavior changes 
in the Windows 7 and Windows 8 operating systems



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:44 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


So no computer with Windows 7+ can WOL from shutdown? I call BS.

The guide I wrote was specifically written for Windows 7 on Dells. I had 10 of 
their models walking up from shutdown. The only catch was to disable deep 
shutdown.

I've also worked on Lenovo computers with Windows 8.1 and had them working. My 
home built media center with Windows 10 wakes up from shutdown by WOL.

Unless something changed, it works if the driver supports it.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016, 12:30 PM Marcum, John 
> wrote:
No they are saying Windows doesn’t support it. “This change is due to Microsoft 
design changes in Windows 7 & Windows 8”



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:15 PM

To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[External Email]
Is Dell seriously saying they no longer support waking up computers from a 
powered off state?

Why?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:10 PM Marcum, John 
> wrote:
On Windows 7? That’s not how I interpret this:

The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7





From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:16 AM

To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

We have disabled the deep sleep option, which I understand is supposed to allow 
WOL when powered down.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/en




From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 

Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Ryan]

So no computer with Windows 7+ can WOL from shutdown? I call BS.

The guide I wrote was specifically written for Windows 7 on Dells. I had 10
of their models walking up from shutdown. The only catch was to disable
deep shutdown.

I've also worked on Lenovo computers with Windows 8.1 and had them working.
My home built media center with Windows 10 wakes up from shutdown by WOL.

Unless something changed, it works if the driver supports it.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016, 12:30 PM Marcum, John  wrote:

> No they are saying Windows doesn’t support it. “This change is due to
> Microsoft design changes in Windows 7 & Windows 8”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 12:15 PM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> *[External Email]*
>
> Is Dell seriously saying they no longer support waking up computers from a
> powered off state?
>
>
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:10 PM Marcum, John  wrote:
>
> On Windows 7? That’s not how I interpret this:
>
>
>
> The *SHUTDOWN (S5)*power state is not supported in Windows 7
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 11:16 AM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> We have disabled the deep sleep option, which I understand is supposed to
> allow WOL when powered down.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Marcum, John
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/en
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when
> powered off.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL
> packet sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from
> the CM server and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a
> network problem.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  wrote:
>
> OK, after working with our network team, WOL **does** work from CM, but
> only when a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and
> it still wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep
> Control was enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might
> work, but it did not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will
> not wake. The article also states:
>
>
>
> These systems should wake from the System Power States: *Sleep (S3)* or 
> *Hibernate
> (S4).* The *SHUTDOWN (S5)*power state is not supported in Windows 7 and 
> *SHUTDOWN
> (S5)* and *Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4)* power states are not supported in
> Windows 8 for Wake-On-LAN.
>
>
>
> Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/
>
>
>
> Is the NIC On:
>
> If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network
> cord is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power.
> Because of this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are
> sent. Check BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The
> next trick will tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.
>
> Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:
>
> One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power
> it back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the
> computer is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now,
> power off the computer (make sure it doesn’t boot 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

Windows 10. And that may be exactly what they’re saying. If so, that seriously 
sucks.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:15 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

Is Dell seriously saying they no longer support waking up computers from a 
powered off state? 

 

Why? 

 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:10 PM Marcum, John  > wrote:

On Windows 7? That’s not how I interpret this:

 

The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7

 

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:16 AM


To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

We have disabled the deep sleep option, which I understand is supposed to allow 
WOL when powered down.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/en

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

 

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote:

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

 

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

 

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

 

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN

 

 

Mike

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

 

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/

 

Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

 

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike  > wrote:

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Marcum, John]

No they are saying Windows doesn’t support it. “This change is due to Microsoft 
design changes in Windows 7 & Windows 8”



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:15 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[External Email]
Is Dell seriously saying they no longer support waking up computers from a 
powered off state?

Why?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:10 PM Marcum, John 
> wrote:
On Windows 7? That’s not how I interpret this:

The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7





From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:16 AM

To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

We have disabled the deep sleep option, which I understand is supposed to allow 
WOL when powered down.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/en




From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/


Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike 
> wrote:
Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from 

Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Ryan]

Is Dell seriously saying they no longer support waking up computers from a
powered off state?

Why?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:10 PM Marcum, John  wrote:

> On Windows 7? That’s not how I interpret this:
>
>
>
> The *SHUTDOWN (S5)*power state is not supported in Windows 7
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 11:16 AM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> We have disabled the deep sleep option, which I understand is supposed to
> allow WOL when powered down.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Marcum, John
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/en
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when
> powered off.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL
> packet sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from
> the CM server and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a
> network problem.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  wrote:
>
> OK, after working with our network team, WOL **does** work from CM, but
> only when a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and
> it still wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep
> Control was enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might
> work, but it did not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will
> not wake. The article also states:
>
>
>
> These systems should wake from the System Power States: *Sleep (S3)* or 
> *Hibernate
> (S4).* The *SHUTDOWN (S5)*power state is not supported in Windows 7 and 
> *SHUTDOWN
> (S5)* and *Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4)* power states are not supported in
> Windows 8 for Wake-On-LAN.
>
>
>
> Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/
>
>
>
> Is the NIC On:
>
> If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network
> cord is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power.
> Because of this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are
> sent. Check BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The
> next trick will tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.
>
> Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:
>
> One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power
> it back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the
> computer is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now,
> power off the computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to
> wake up the computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are
> probably looking at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it
> doesn’t wake up, check the BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct,
> and if they are look into updating or downgrading the BIOS.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike 
> wrote:
>
> Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to
> time when the wrong drivers are installed.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer,
> but not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the
> network 

[mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Daniel Ratliff]

Not currently, most of what I gathered was from my own environment, and we 
don't have a whole lot of those yet.

However, Win10 does list all updates here: 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history

So Win10 wouldn't be too hard to add.

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:48 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Any intents of doing Win8/8.1 and Win10 machines?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:09 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Ah you have Win8/8.1 and Win10 machines in there. I'll just ignore the older 
OS'. :)

My post only does Win7.

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:55 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Thanks everyone - I found that earlier but it seems I have many more than 
listed here

Here are many of the unidentified versions that I have
10.0.10240.16724
10.0.10240.17022
10.0.10240.17071
10.0.10240.17146
10.0.10586.306
10.0.10586.420
10.0.10586.494
10.0.10586.545
10.0.10586.589
10.0.10586.672
10.0.14393.0
10.0.14393.103
10.0.14393.187
10.0.14393.351

7.8.9200.16384
7.8.9200.16715
7.8.9200.16924
7.8.9200.16925
7.8.9200.17185
7.9.9600.16384
7.9.9600.16403
7.9.9600.16422
7.9.9600.17031
7.9.9600.17092
7.9.9600.17093
7.9.9600.17195
7.9.9600.17238
7.9.9600.17336
7.9.9600.17415
7.9.9600.17489
7.9.9600.17729
7.9.9600.17831
7.9.9600.17930
7.9.9600.17959
7.9.9600.18039
7.9.9600.18066
7.9.9600.18094
7.9.9600.18145
7.9.9600.18192
7.9.9600.18235
7.9.9600.18340

(don't laugh here)
6.2.10240.16384
6.2.10240.16463
6.2.10240.16724
6.2.10240.17022
6.2.10240.17071
6.2.10240.17113
6.2.10240.17146
6.2.10586.0
6.2.10586.103
6.2.10586.122
6.2.10586.162
6.2.10586.17
6.2.10586.212
6.2.10586.306
6.2.10586.420
6.2.10586.494
6.2.10586.545
6.2.10586.589
6.2.10586.672
6.2.14393.0
6.2.14393.103
6.2.14393.187
6.2.14393.351
6.2.14959.1000
7.1.6001.65
7.2.6001.788
7.3.7600.16385

So, that's what I was looking for - I'm using the list in that link and was 
hoping to find a "complete" list
Thanks again


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:44 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Funny you ask. Just posted this earlier this month.

http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks



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RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Marcum, John]

On Windows 7? That’s not how I interpret this:

The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7





From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:16 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

We have disabled the deep sleep option, which I understand is supposed to allow 
WOL when powered down.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/en




From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/


Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike 
> wrote:
Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers

We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer, but 
not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the network 
adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal?




Best Regards,

Mike Murray
Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support 

RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

Various. The last one was an OptiPlex 9010.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Shane McKeown
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

What model is the machine?

We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold…

Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)

 

Shane 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem. 

  

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote: 

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states: 

  

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN. 

  

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do? 

  

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN 

  

  

Mike 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM: 

  

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/
 

  

Is the NIC On: 

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem. 

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem: 

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS. 

  

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike  > wrote: 

Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed. 

  

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers 

  

We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer, but 
not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the network 
adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal? 

  

  

  

Best Regards, 

  

Mike Murray 

Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services 

California State University, Chico 

530.898.4357
  mmur...@csuchico.edu 

  

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RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

We have disabled the deep sleep option, which I understand is supposed to allow 
WOL when powered down.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/en

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

 

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote:

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

 

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

 

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

 

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN

 

 

Mike

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

 

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/

 

Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

 

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike  > wrote:

Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers

 

We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer, but 
not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the network 
adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal? 

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

Mike Murray

Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services

California State University, Chico

530.898.4357  
  mmur...@csuchico.edu

 

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[mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Henry.Wilson]

Any intents of doing Win8/8.1 and Win10 machines?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:09 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Ah you have Win8/8.1 and Win10 machines in there. I'll just ignore the older 
OS'. :)

My post only does Win7.

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:55 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Thanks everyone - I found that earlier but it seems I have many more than 
listed here

Here are many of the unidentified versions that I have
10.0.10240.16724
10.0.10240.17022
10.0.10240.17071
10.0.10240.17146
10.0.10586.306
10.0.10586.420
10.0.10586.494
10.0.10586.545
10.0.10586.589
10.0.10586.672
10.0.14393.0
10.0.14393.103
10.0.14393.187
10.0.14393.351

7.8.9200.16384
7.8.9200.16715
7.8.9200.16924
7.8.9200.16925
7.8.9200.17185
7.9.9600.16384
7.9.9600.16403
7.9.9600.16422
7.9.9600.17031
7.9.9600.17092
7.9.9600.17093
7.9.9600.17195
7.9.9600.17238
7.9.9600.17336
7.9.9600.17415
7.9.9600.17489
7.9.9600.17729
7.9.9600.17831
7.9.9600.17930
7.9.9600.17959
7.9.9600.18039
7.9.9600.18066
7.9.9600.18094
7.9.9600.18145
7.9.9600.18192
7.9.9600.18235
7.9.9600.18340

(don't laugh here)
6.2.10240.16384
6.2.10240.16463
6.2.10240.16724
6.2.10240.17022
6.2.10240.17071
6.2.10240.17113
6.2.10240.17146
6.2.10586.0
6.2.10586.103
6.2.10586.122
6.2.10586.162
6.2.10586.17
6.2.10586.212
6.2.10586.306
6.2.10586.420
6.2.10586.494
6.2.10586.545
6.2.10586.589
6.2.10586.672
6.2.14393.0
6.2.14393.103
6.2.14393.187
6.2.14393.351
6.2.14959.1000
7.1.6001.65
7.2.6001.788
7.3.7600.16385

So, that's what I was looking for - I'm using the list in that link and was 
hoping to find a "complete" list
Thanks again


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:44 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Funny you ask. Just posted this earlier this month.

http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks



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RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

Neither work. I upgraded BIOS, too.  :/

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:59 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

What about the BIOS trick I talked about?

 

Turn off the computer, boot into BIOS, then shut it down (this is important, if 
it ever even starts loading Windows you have to restart the whole process). 
Now, try to wake it.  if it wakes up, it is an OS problem. If it doesn't wake 
up, it may or may not be an OS problem, but I'd say start looking at upgrading 
BIOS first.

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:54 AM Murray, Mike  > wrote:

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM


To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

 

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote:

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

 

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

 

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

 

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN

 

 

Mike

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

 

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/

 

Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

 

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike  > wrote:

Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers

 

We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer, but 
not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the network 
adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal? 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

Mike Murray

Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services

California State University, Chico

530.898.4357  
  mmur...@csuchico.edu

 

Remember, Chico State will NEVER ask you for your password via email!  

For more information about recognizing 

[mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Daniel Ratliff]

Ah you have Win8/8.1 and Win10 machines in there. I'll just ignore the older 
OS'. :)

My post only does Win7.

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:55 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Thanks everyone - I found that earlier but it seems I have many more than 
listed here

Here are many of the unidentified versions that I have
10.0.10240.16724
10.0.10240.17022
10.0.10240.17071
10.0.10240.17146
10.0.10586.306
10.0.10586.420
10.0.10586.494
10.0.10586.545
10.0.10586.589
10.0.10586.672
10.0.14393.0
10.0.14393.103
10.0.14393.187
10.0.14393.351

7.8.9200.16384
7.8.9200.16715
7.8.9200.16924
7.8.9200.16925
7.8.9200.17185
7.9.9600.16384
7.9.9600.16403
7.9.9600.16422
7.9.9600.17031
7.9.9600.17092
7.9.9600.17093
7.9.9600.17195
7.9.9600.17238
7.9.9600.17336
7.9.9600.17415
7.9.9600.17489
7.9.9600.17729
7.9.9600.17831
7.9.9600.17930
7.9.9600.17959
7.9.9600.18039
7.9.9600.18066
7.9.9600.18094
7.9.9600.18145
7.9.9600.18192
7.9.9600.18235
7.9.9600.18340

(don't laugh here)
6.2.10240.16384
6.2.10240.16463
6.2.10240.16724
6.2.10240.17022
6.2.10240.17071
6.2.10240.17113
6.2.10240.17146
6.2.10586.0
6.2.10586.103
6.2.10586.122
6.2.10586.162
6.2.10586.17
6.2.10586.212
6.2.10586.306
6.2.10586.420
6.2.10586.494
6.2.10586.545
6.2.10586.589
6.2.10586.672
6.2.14393.0
6.2.14393.103
6.2.14393.187
6.2.14393.351
6.2.14959.1000
7.1.6001.65
7.2.6001.788
7.3.7600.16385

So, that's what I was looking for - I'm using the list in that link and was 
hoping to find a "complete" list
Thanks again


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:44 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Funny you ask. Just posted this earlier this month.

http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks



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RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Marcum, John]

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/en




From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/


Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike 
> wrote:
Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers

We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer, but 
not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the network 
adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal?




Best Regards,

Mike Murray
Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services
California State University, Chico
530.898.4357
mmur...@csuchico.edu

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Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Ryan]

What about the BIOS trick I talked about?

Turn off the computer, boot into BIOS, then shut it down (this is
important, if it ever even starts loading Windows you have to restart the
whole process). Now, try to wake it.  if it wakes up, it is an OS problem.
If it doesn't wake up, it may or may not be an OS problem, but I'd say
start looking at upgrading BIOS first.



On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:54 AM Murray, Mike  wrote:

> It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when
> powered off.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL
> packet sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from
> the CM server and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a
> network problem.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  wrote:
>
> OK, after working with our network team, WOL **does** work from CM, but
> only when a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and
> it still wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep
> Control was enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might
> work, but it did not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will
> not wake. The article also states:
>
>
>
> These systems should wake from the System Power States: *Sleep (S3)* or 
> *Hibernate
> (S4).* The *SHUTDOWN (S5)*power state is not supported in Windows 7 and 
> *SHUTDOWN
> (S5)* and *Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4)* power states are not supported in
> Windows 8 for Wake-On-LAN.
>
>
>
> Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/
>
>
>
> Is the NIC On:
>
> If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network
> cord is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power.
> Because of this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are
> sent. Check BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The
> next trick will tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.
>
> Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:
>
> One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power
> it back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the
> computer is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now,
> power off the computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to
> wake up the computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are
> probably looking at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it
> doesn’t wake up, check the BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct,
> and if they are look into updating or downgrading the BIOS.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike 
> wrote:
>
> Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to
> time when the wrong drivers are installed.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Murray, Mike
> *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers
>
>
>
> We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer,
> but not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the
> network adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Mike Murray
>
> Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services
>
> California State University, Chico
>
> 530.898.4357 <(530)%20898-4357>
> mmur...@csuchico.edu
>
>
>
> Remember, Chico State will NEVER ask you for your password via email!
>
> For more information about recognizing phishing scam emails go to:
> http://www.csuchico.edu/isec/basics/spam-and-phishing.shtml
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Shane McKeown]

What model is the machine?
We have Dell Inspiron machines that do it like this – they will wake from sleep 
but not from cold…
Also found this with some Vostro models(can’t remember the exact model)

Shane

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: 21 November 2016 16:31
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/


Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike 
> wrote:
Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers

We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer, but 
not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the network 
adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal?



Best Regards,

Mike Murray
Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services
California State University, Chico
530.898.4357
mmur...@csuchico.edu

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RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Marcum, John]

What is the question here? You seem to have posted the answer to your own 
problem.

The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN (S5) 
and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers


You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike 
> wrote:
OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN


Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/


Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike 
> wrote:
Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers

We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer, but 
not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the network 
adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal?




Best Regards,

Mike Murray
Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services
California State University, Chico
530.898.4357
mmur...@csuchico.edu

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[mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Henry.Wilson]

Thanks everyone - I found that earlier but it seems I have many more than 
listed here

Here are many of the unidentified versions that I have
10.0.10240.16724
10.0.10240.17022
10.0.10240.17071
10.0.10240.17146
10.0.10586.306
10.0.10586.420
10.0.10586.494
10.0.10586.545
10.0.10586.589
10.0.10586.672
10.0.14393.0
10.0.14393.103
10.0.14393.187
10.0.14393.351

7.8.9200.16384
7.8.9200.16715
7.8.9200.16924
7.8.9200.16925
7.8.9200.17185
7.9.9600.16384
7.9.9600.16403
7.9.9600.16422
7.9.9600.17031
7.9.9600.17092
7.9.9600.17093
7.9.9600.17195
7.9.9600.17238
7.9.9600.17336
7.9.9600.17415
7.9.9600.17489
7.9.9600.17729
7.9.9600.17831
7.9.9600.17930
7.9.9600.17959
7.9.9600.18039
7.9.9600.18066
7.9.9600.18094
7.9.9600.18145
7.9.9600.18192
7.9.9600.18235
7.9.9600.18340

(don't laugh here)
6.2.10240.16384
6.2.10240.16463
6.2.10240.16724
6.2.10240.17022
6.2.10240.17071
6.2.10240.17113
6.2.10240.17146
6.2.10586.0
6.2.10586.103
6.2.10586.122
6.2.10586.162
6.2.10586.17
6.2.10586.212
6.2.10586.306
6.2.10586.420
6.2.10586.494
6.2.10586.545
6.2.10586.589
6.2.10586.672
6.2.14393.0
6.2.14393.103
6.2.14393.187
6.2.14393.351
6.2.14959.1000
7.1.6001.65
7.2.6001.788
7.3.7600.16385

So, that's what I was looking for - I'm using the list in that link and was 
hoping to find a "complete" list
Thanks again


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:44 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Funny you ask. Just posted this earlier this month.

http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks



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RE: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

[Murray, Mike]

It does get the packet. And it will wake up when asleep, just now when powered 
off.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

You can check if the computer is getting the packet by running a WOL packet 
sniffer on it while it's on. Send the packet to the computer from the CM server 
and see if it comes through. If it does, it's probably not a network problem.

 

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 6:26 PM Murray, Mike  > wrote:

OK, after working with our network team, WOL *does* work from CM, but only when 
a computer is sleeping. I tried your power into BIOS trick, and it still 
wouldn’t wake. I looked at the BIOS settings, and Deep Sleep Control was 
enabled. The article below suggests that disabling this might work, but it did 
not. If the computer is fully powered off, it still will not wake. The article 
also states:

 

These systems should wake from the System Power States: Sleep (S3) or Hibernate 
(S4). The SHUTDOWN (S5)power state is not supported in Windows 7 and SHUTDOWN 
(S5) and Hybrid SHUTDOWN (S4) power states are not supported in Windows 8 for 
Wake-On-LAN.

 

Welp, I’m in state S5, so what to do?

 

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN216918/EN

 

 

Mike

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: WOL not waking powered off computers

 

View page three of my troubleshooting WOL and SCCM:

 

http://www.ephingadmin.com/a-configmgr-admins-guide-to-wol-magic-packet-part-three/

 

Is the NIC On:

If there are no link lights on the back of the computer, where the network cord 
is plugged in, then your NIC is probably not getting any power. Because of 
this, it won’t be able to turn on the computer when packets are sent. Check 
BIOS and / or Windows to see which is turning off the NIC. The next trick will 
tell you how to narrow down which is causing the problem.

Is This A Windows Problem or BIOS Problem:

One interesting trick you can do is power off the computer, and then power it 
back on going into BIOS. Sometimes, Windows turns the NIC off when the computer 
is powered down, and this action will turn back on the NIC. Now, power off the 
computer (make sure it doesn’t boot into Windows) and try to wake up the 
computer. If it wakes up, and it never woke up before, you are probably looking 
at a Windows setting problem or a driver bug. If it doesn’t wake up, check the 
BIOS. make sure all the settings are correct, and if they are look into 
updating or downgrading the BIOS.

 

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM Linkey, Mike  > wrote:

Make sure you have the right NIC drivers.  We have problems from time to time 
when the wrong drivers are installed.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [External] [mssms] WOL not waking powered off computers

 

We have WOL enabled on our network. I’m able to wake a sleeping computer, but 
not a powered off computer. I verified WOL is enabled in BIOS and the network 
adapter is not getting powered off. Is this normal? 

 



 

 

Best Regards,

 

Mike Murray

Desktop Engineer/IT Consultant - IT Support Services

California State University, Chico

530.898.4357  
  mmur...@csuchico.edu

 

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[mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Alicea, Gabriel]

Hi Henry,

Potent Engineer has a great blog entry on this very thing...

http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Gabe


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks

RE: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Jeff Poling]

Daniel created a list here: 
http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Jeff

Sent from my Windows 10 phone

From: henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks

[mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Alicea, Gabriel]

Hi Henry,

Potent Engineer has a great blog entry on this very thing...

http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Gabe

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks

[mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Alicea, Gabriel]

Hi Henry,

Potent Engineer has a great blog entry on this very thing...

http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Gabe

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks

[mssms] RE: Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Daniel Ratliff]

Funny you ask. Just posted this earlier this month.

http://www.potentengineer.com/windows-update-agent-build-numbers-for-windows-7/

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of henry.wil...@sanofi.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks



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[mssms] Case statement for Windows Update Version / link

[Henry.Wilson]

Hello
Has anyone created a comprehensive (easy to read) list to identify the various 
versions of the Windows Update Agent to the Month / Year / KB it was released 
under?
As an example I have this -
7.6.7601.18804

7.6.7601.18847

7.6.7601.18917

7.6.7601.18937

7.6.7601.18979

7.6.7601.19016

7.6.7601.19046

7.6.7601.19077

7.6.7601.19116

7.6.7601.19161

7.6.7601.23435

7.6.7601.23453


A report shows ~75+ versions from
6.2.10240.16384
To
10.0.14393.351

Just don't want to look up each one individually (all my searching hasn't 
yielded any good results)  :(

Thanks

[mssms] RE: ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec

[Krueger, Jeff]

We never got a fix, we opened a ticket with MS and they acknowledged that it is 
a bug, and I have seen chatter about other people having problems with the ADR 
not downloading content, but you're the first I've seen where the same issue 
with crashing SMSExec happens.

I'm hoping v1610 does fix it though

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Shane Alexander
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:40 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Re: ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec


Same issue here.



Only seemed to start when the ADR ran this month.  Last month was OK.  
ConfigMgr is v1606 (not UR1).  Other ADR's (without O365 updates selected) work 
OK.



Did you get a fix ?



Some out there say it is fixed by UR1, but others on the same link say it 
doesn't fix it.



Don't know if v1610 will fix it.



Shane


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  on behalf 
of Krueger, Jeff 
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2016 5:07 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec


Got a weird one for you guys.  I'm seeing when running an Automatic Deployment 
Rule for Office 365 updates it keeps crashing SMSExec.  Not seeing any errors 
in any of the SCCM logs the only thing we can see is in the Application event 
logs we see an application error with event ID 1000 with the following details:

Faulting application name: smsexec.exe, version: 5.0.8412.1000, time stamp: 
0x5768bbe5

Faulting module name: Patchdownloader.dll, version: 5.0.8412.1000, time stamp: 
0x5768bb9c

Exception code: 0xc005

Fault offset: 0xbb54

Faulting process id: 0x1ccc

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1fe37c1989f0b

Faulting application path: D:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration 
Manager\bin\x64\smsexec.exe

Faulting module path: D:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration 
Manager\bin\x64\Patchdownloader.dll

Report Id: 31adf52f-6a2b-11e6-9308-005056913f8f



The ruleengine.log file shows that it is starting to download and then 
everything just stops

CRuleHandler: Processing Rule with ID:12, Name:Office 365 Patching. 
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Evaluating Update Criteria for AutoDeployment Rule 12   SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Evaluating Update Criteria... SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM
6588 (0x19BC)

Rule Criteria is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
 Name="SMS_SoftwareUpdate" 
LocaleId="1033">0:0:14:0'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b'
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Inserting PropertyName:DateRevised, PropertyValue:0:0:14:0
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Inserting PropertyName:_Product, 
PropertyValue:'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b'   
SMS_RULE_ENGINE8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Query to run is: select CI_ID from dbo.fn_ListUpdateCIs(1033) ci~where 
IsExpired=0~  and (DateRevised>=N'2016-08-10 18:46:16')~  and (CI_ID in (select 
CI_ID from v_CICategories_All where CategoryInstance_UniqueID in 
(N'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b')))SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Rule resulted in a total of 6 updates SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 
PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Evaluation Resultant XML is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
 

Re: [mssms] Auto Client Upgrade

[Stuart Watret]

Until you complete the restart, the appropriate files are not in use, i.e. the 
client will not be fully functional.


Stuart Watret (Director)
Offshore IT Ltd
stu...@offshore-it.co.uk

On 21 Nov 2016, at 03:58, Magnus Tveten 
> wrote:

Hi All,
Quick question…. About client upgrade.
I have noticed that sometimes when a Client gets upgraded (at least when its 
going from SCCM2012 client to 1606)  the client installation ends with a 
‘Reboot needed’
On Client OS that is enforced with the Computer settings countdown times so 
that is not a problem, however for servers it creates a “reboot Pending” as its 
not forcing it
How quickly do I have to ensure that the server is actually rebooted after the 
client is installed ?
Or I guess what are the implications of not forcing the reboot to happen ?



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Re: [mssms] Re: ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec

[Marcum, John]

I noticed one of the O365 updates wouldn't download this month. Maybe that's 
the problem ?

Typos compliments of Siri
Sent from my iOS device

On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:45 AM, Shane Alexander 
> wrote:

[External Email]


Same issue here.


Only seemed to start when the ADR ran this month.  Last month was OK.  
ConfigMgr is v1606 (not UR1).  Other ADR's (without O365 updates selected) work 
OK.


Did you get a fix ?


Some out there say it is fixed by UR1, but others on the same link say it 
doesn't fix it.


Don't know if v1610 will fix it.


Shane



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
> on 
behalf of Krueger, Jeff >
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2016 5:07 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec


Got a weird one for you guys.  I'm seeing when running an Automatic Deployment 
Rule for Office 365 updates it keeps crashing SMSExec.  Not seeing any errors 
in any of the SCCM logs the only thing we can see is in the Application event 
logs we see an application error with event ID 1000 with the following details:

Faulting application name: smsexec.exe, version: 5.0.8412.1000, time stamp: 
0x5768bbe5

Faulting module name: Patchdownloader.dll, version: 5.0.8412.1000, time stamp: 
0x5768bb9c

Exception code: 0xc005

Fault offset: 0xbb54

Faulting process id: 0x1ccc

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1fe37c1989f0b

Faulting application path: D:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration 
Manager\bin\x64\smsexec.exe

Faulting module path: D:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration 
Manager\bin\x64\Patchdownloader.dll

Report Id: 31adf52f-6a2b-11e6-9308-005056913f8f



The ruleengine.log file shows that it is starting to download and then 
everything just stops

CRuleHandler: Processing Rule with ID:12, Name:Office 365 Patching. 
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Evaluating Update Criteria for AutoDeployment Rule 12   SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Evaluating Update Criteria... SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM
6588 (0x19BC)

Rule Criteria is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; Name="SMS_SoftwareUpdate" 
LocaleId="1033">0:0:14:0'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b'
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Inserting PropertyName:DateRevised, PropertyValue:0:0:14:0
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Inserting PropertyName:_Product, 
PropertyValue:'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b'   
SMS_RULE_ENGINE8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Query to run is: select CI_ID from dbo.fn_ListUpdateCIs(1033) ci~where 
IsExpired=0~  and (DateRevised>=N'2016-08-10 18:46:16')~  and (CI_ID in (select 
CI_ID from v_CICategories_All where CategoryInstance_UniqueID in 
(N'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b')))SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Rule resulted in a total of 6 updates SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 
PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Evaluation Resultant XML is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;>168767471687674916876961168769631687842516878427
  SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM
6588 (0x19BC)

Enforcing Content Download Action  SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM 
   6588 (0x19BC)

Download Rule Action XML is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;>QA100026Locale:9Locale:0
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Criteria Filter Result XML is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;>168767471687674916876961168769631687842516878427
  SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM
6588 (0x19BC)

6 update(s) need to be downloaded in package "QA100026" 
(\\rhwapp431a\d$\Source\O365 Updates)  SMS_RULE_ENGINE
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

List of update(s) which match the content rule criteria = 
{16876747,16876749,16876961,16876963,16878425,16878427}
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Downloading contents (count = 1) for UpdateID 16876747   SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

List of update content(s) which match the content rule criteria = {16864448}
 SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Downloading content with ID 16864448 in the package   SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM  

[mssms] Re: ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec

[Shane Alexander]

Same issue here.


Only seemed to start when the ADR ran this month.  Last month was OK.  
ConfigMgr is v1606 (not UR1).  Other ADR's (without O365 updates selected) work 
OK.


Did you get a fix ?


Some out there say it is fixed by UR1, but others on the same link say it 
doesn't fix it.


Don't know if v1610 will fix it.


Shane



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  on behalf 
of Krueger, Jeff 
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2016 5:07 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] ADR for Office 365 updates keeps crashing SMSExec


Got a weird one for you guys.  I'm seeing when running an Automatic Deployment 
Rule for Office 365 updates it keeps crashing SMSExec.  Not seeing any errors 
in any of the SCCM logs the only thing we can see is in the Application event 
logs we see an application error with event ID 1000 with the following details:

Faulting application name: smsexec.exe, version: 5.0.8412.1000, time stamp: 
0x5768bbe5

Faulting module name: Patchdownloader.dll, version: 5.0.8412.1000, time stamp: 
0x5768bb9c

Exception code: 0xc005

Fault offset: 0xbb54

Faulting process id: 0x1ccc

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1fe37c1989f0b

Faulting application path: D:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration 
Manager\bin\x64\smsexec.exe

Faulting module path: D:\Program Files\Microsoft Configuration 
Manager\bin\x64\Patchdownloader.dll

Report Id: 31adf52f-6a2b-11e6-9308-005056913f8f



The ruleengine.log file shows that it is starting to download and then 
everything just stops

CRuleHandler: Processing Rule with ID:12, Name:Office 365 Patching. 
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Evaluating Update Criteria for AutoDeployment Rule 12   SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Evaluating Update Criteria... SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM
6588 (0x19BC)

Rule Criteria is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; Name="SMS_SoftwareUpdate" 
LocaleId="1033">0:0:14:0'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b'
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Inserting PropertyName:DateRevised, PropertyValue:0:0:14:0
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Inserting PropertyName:_Product, 
PropertyValue:'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b'   
SMS_RULE_ENGINE8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Query to run is: select CI_ID from dbo.fn_ListUpdateCIs(1033) ci~where 
IsExpired=0~  and (DateRevised>=N'2016-08-10 18:46:16')~  and (CI_ID in (select 
CI_ID from v_CICategories_All where CategoryInstance_UniqueID in 
(N'Product:30eb551c-6288-4716-9a78-f300ec36d72b')))SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Rule resulted in a total of 6 updates SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 
PM6588 (0x19BC)

  Evaluation Resultant XML is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;>168767471687674916876961168769631687842516878427
  SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM
6588 (0x19BC)

Enforcing Content Download Action  SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM 
   6588 (0x19BC)

Download Rule Action XML is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;>QA100026Locale:9Locale:0
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Criteria Filter Result XML is: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;>168767471687674916876961168769631687842516878427
  SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM
6588 (0x19BC)

6 update(s) need to be downloaded in package "QA100026" 
(\\rhwapp431a\d$\Source\O365 Updates)  SMS_RULE_ENGINE
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

List of update(s) which match the content rule criteria = 
{16876747,16876749,16876961,16876963,16878425,16878427}
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Downloading contents (count = 1) for UpdateID 16876747   SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

List of update content(s) which match the content rule criteria = {16864448}
 SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

Downloading content with ID 16864448 in the package   SMS_RULE_ENGINE 
8/24/2016 2:46:16 PM6588 (0x19BC)

SMS_EXECUTIVE started SMS_RULE_ENGINE as thread ID 6388 (0x18F4).   
SMS_RULE_ENGINE 8/24/2016 2:48:55 PM5260 (0x148C)





Jeff Krueger

jkrue...@hfhs.org

248.853.4466[X]

Information Technology

Henry Ford Health System





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