Re: [help] Disabling email notification not working

[Kurt Hackenberg]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 04:45:55PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote:


This example



Woops. I missed a character in copy-paste, and should have given a web 
reference anyway:

Re: [help] Disabling email notification not working

[Kurt Hackenberg]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 06:28:30PM +, Charles via Mutt-users wrote:


set folder = imap://...
set spoolfile = imap://.../INBOX

mailboxes -nonotify -nopoll $spoolfile
set timeout = 10
set mail_check = 600
set new_mail_command = "/bin/mpv /noise.mp3"


With this setup, I should not get a notification for a new email, yet, I do.


I don't know exactly what happens there, but two things look 
questionable: $folder and $spoolfile.


According to the Mutt manual, $folder is the pathname of a local 
directory, default ~/Mail, that contains your local mailboxes. That 
seems to be different from what Mutt means by "a folder": a set of 
messages, like an mbox file, a maildir, or an IMAP folder. (A "mailbox" 
is a folder that can receive new incoming mail.) One purpose of $folder 
-- maybe the only purpose -- is to give a value for the shortcut "+" or 
"=", used in pathnames of folders and mailboxes.


This example

shows $folder generalized to mean the top of an IMAP tree, but again 
it's a place where multiple folders/mailboxes live. Note that example 
sets $folder to imap://host1/, not imap://host1/INBOX. Possibly that 
example sets it just to use the shortcut "+".


$spoolfile, another pathname (default empty string) seems to have 
originally been about the old original Unix mechanism for delivering 
mail into local files, back when every Unix machine where people read 
mail, ran an MTA. The MTA delivered incoming mail for Unix user "fred" 
into, say, /var/mail/fred, an mbox file. When Fred ran a mail reader, 
it moved his new mail from that system spool file to another mbox file 
in his home directory, default ~/mbox. The Mutt variable $spoolfile, 
according to the manual, is a way to specify a non-default location of 
that system spool file. Maybe $spoolfile has been generalized from that 
original meaning to mean something with IMAP; possibly setting 
$spoolfile implies polling.


You might try not setting either of those Mutt variables, and see what 
happens.

Re: Help testing 1.11 BETA tarball

[benfitzg]

On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 06:38:13PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> The 1.11 release is coming up in about three weeks.  This time I'm
> trying something different and have prepared a BETA tarball to get
> testing/feedback in advance.  The translation files haven't been updated
> yet, but the tarball is at: .

I built mutt tonight from https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt.git hash c9ab855,
works great. Last update was *today* but not sure if it's 1.11.

Just wanted to thank you for all the work you do on this *amazing* mail
client. I use it every day at work. My email load there is unmanageable when
using ms outlook.

thanks,

-- 
Ben Fitzgerald

Re: Help with mutt - sending mail with body as html with attachments

[P. Mazart]

Hello Cary,

 1. Mail whose content is html - I can do this by specify -e my_hdr
 Content-Type: text/html, and formatting the message as a pure html
 file, e.g. no extra headers.

I’m not entirely sure but I feel that it’s not too ideal 
to set the Content-Type via a my_hdr setting.

Maybe you can set a custom header like “x-change-to-html”, and apply a
hook running an edit-type macro if this header is present?
Sounds more native to me. 

Regards,
P.M.

Re: Help with mutt - sending mail with body as html with attachments

[P. Mazart]

Hello again,

 Maybe you can set a custom header like “x-change-to-html”, and apply a
 hook running an edit-type macro if this header is present?
 Sounds more native to me. 

Maybe this is even easier:
mutt -e 'set content_type=text/html' -s 'Subject of your msg' 
spamreceipi...@server.gov -a attachment.pdf  message.html

Regards,
P.M.

Re: Help with multiple emails

[Mandar Mitra]

   3) I have set up several configuration files and made a maildir
 structure but feel uncomfortable leaving my emails settings, e.g.
 passwords, and messages in plain text files that anyone could read. I
 have nothing to hide but feel this is insecure.

If you're on Linux, you might find the msmtp-gnome package useful. It
allows you to store your password in the gnome-keyring. It's better
than storing passwords in clear text in config files, but I don't know
enough to tell if it'll satisfy folks who are serious about security.

I use offlineimap for incoming mail, and that uses the gnome keyring
too, but that is probably irrelevant to your needs.

HTH,
mandar.

Re: Help with multiple emails

[Gregor Zattler]

Hi Robert,
* Robert Dyer 42possibletr...@googlemail.com [28. Oct. 2011]:

   I have now successfully set up mutt as my email client, but have three
 issues remaining. They are listed below in order of increasing
 seriousness.
   1) I have successfully set up macros for limiting the number of emails
 I see, but would like to be able to have a default limiting expression
 for when I first start mutt.

how about (untested)
push limit~Aenter see all
in your muttrc?

   2) I have placed all my emails in one maildir structure but would like
 to back them up independently. I.e. 'cp'ing them only if the sender or
 receiver had a particular address. This would have to be
 scriptable.

Uhhh.  That's problematic since it's not easy to catch all cases.
I'd do this on the level of the MDA (procmail).  Therefore I'd
match on the Delivered-To: header.

   3) I have set up several configuration files and made a maildir
 structure but feel uncomfortable leaving my emails settings, e.g.
 passwords, and messages in plain text files that anyone could read. I
 have nothing to hide but feel this is insecure.

See other answer, I don't have experience with this.
Ciao, Gregor
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Re: Help with multiple emails

[Robert Dyer]

I have now successfully set up mutt as my email client, but have three
issues remaining. They are listed below in order of increasing
seriousness.
  1) I have successfully set up macros for limiting the number of emails
I see, but would like to be able to have a default limiting expression
for when I first start mutt.
  2) I have placed all my emails in one maildir structure but would like
to back them up independently. I.e. 'cp'ing them only if the sender or
receiver had a particular address. This would have to be scriptable.
  3) I have set up several configuration files and made a maildir
structure but feel uncomfortable leaving my emails settings, e.g.
passwords, and messages in plain text files that anyone could read. I
have nothing to hide but feel this is insecure.
  To clarify the programs I have installed to manage my mail are: mutt
(obviously), getmail, procmail, and msmtp. I would very much appreciate
any help possible, as the last issue especially is a BIG problem.
 For the benefit of those reading this I will attach a copy of my .muttrc
rather than uploading it. Also for those wondering, explicitly setting my
from address to an empty string did not work as expected, instead mutt
very incorrectly guessed my address based on my login name and the name
of the computer I was working at. However this did not matter as by not
specifying a default account for msmtp I receive an error whenever
trying to send an email without explicitly setting the from address. 
  Finally a thank you in advance to anyone who can help :-).
# character set on messages that we send
set send_charset=utf-8
# if there is no character set given on incoming messages, it is probably 
windows
set assumed_charset=iso-8859-1

# make sure Vim knows mutt is a mail client and that we compose an UTF-8 
encoded message
set editor=vim -c 'set syntax=mail ft=mail enc=utf-8'

# Tell mutt to use maildir format
set mbox_type=Maildir

# just scroll one line instead of full page
set menu_scroll=yes

# enable mailcap file
set mailcap_path=~/.mutt/mailcap

# we want to see some MIME types inline, see below this code listing for 
explanation
auto_view text/html
auto_view application/msword
auto_view application/pdf

# make default search pattern to search in To, Cc and Subject
set simple_search=~f %s | ~C %s | ~s %s

# threading preferences, sort by threads
set sort=threads
set strict_threads=yes

# show spam score (from SpamAssassin only) when reading a message
spam X-Spam-Score: ([0-9\\.]+).* SA: %1
set pager_format =  %C - %[%H:%M] %.20v, %s%* %?H? [%H] ?

# do not show all headers, just a few
ignore  *
unignoreFrom To Cc Bcc Date Subject
# and in this order
unhdr_order *
hdr_order   From: To: Cc: Bcc: Date: Subject:

# brighten up stuff with colours, for more colouring examples see:
# http://aperiodic.net/phil/configs/mutt/colors
color normal  white  black
color hdrdefault  green  default
color quoted  green  default
color quoted1 yellow default
color quoted2 reddefault
color signature   cyan   default
color indicator   brightyellow   red
color error   brightred  default
color status  brightwhiteblue
color treebrightmagenta  black
color tilde   blue   default
color attachment  brightyellow   default
color markers brightred  default
color message white  black
color search  brightwhitemagenta
color boldbrightyellow   default
# if you don't like the black progress bar at the bottom of the screen,
# comment out the following line
color progresswhite  black

# spell-checking
set ispell=aspell -e -c

# personality settings
set sendmail='/usr/bin/msmtp'
set reverse_name
set realname = [CENSORED]
unset from
set use_envelope_from
alternates ^[CENSORED]$
alternates ^[CENSORED]$
alternates ^[CENSORED]$
alternates -group [CENSORED] ^[CENSORED]$ ^[CENSORED]$
# this file must exist, and contains your signature, comment it out if
# you don't want a signature to be used
## set signature = ~/.signature

# aliases (sort of address book)
set alias_file=/data/mail/aliases
set sort_alias=alias
set reverse_alias=yes
source $alias_file

# account settings
set folder=/data/mail
set spoolfile=+.Inbox
set mask=!^\\.[^.]
set record=+.Sent
set postponed=+.Drafts

# use headercache for IMAP (make sure this is a directory for performance!)
set header_cache=/tmp/.mutt

# mailboxes we want to monitor for new mail
  mailboxes ! `\
  for file in /data/mail/.*; do \
box=$(basename $file); \
if [ ! $box = '.' -a ! $box = '..' -a ! $box = '.customflags' \
  -a ! $box = '.subscriptions' ]; then \
  echo -n \+$box\ ; \
fi; \
  done`
# mailboxes =
# mailboxes =Lists

# mailing lists we are on (these are regexps!)
## subscribe gentoo-.*@gentoo\\.org

# Macros
macro index,pager c change-folder?toggle-mailboxes open a different 
folder
# macro pager c change-folder?toggle-mailboxes open a 

Re: Help with multiple emails

[Gregor Zattler]

Hi 42possibletrash,
* 42possibletr...@googlemail.com 42possibletr...@googlemail.com [23. Oct. 
2011]:
 Thank you for your replies Gregor Zattler and Jostein Gogstad. I have
 followed Gregor's advice and moved all my emails into one folder,
 /data/mail. This is my current .muttrc:
 http://ompldr.org/vYXh6ZQ]http://ompldr.org/vYXh6ZQ. 

ATM I cannot access this website.  

 The current problem I am having is setting up mutt to my liking
 in terms of composing emails. This may not be a crucial
 problem, but I hope you don't mind helping me out all the
 same. On eudora and previous email clients I was able, albeit
 with some work, to get them to let me compose new emails with
 no 'From' information by default. This helped as it meant that
 I had to consider which account I should be sending emails from
 on an individual basis, hence less mistakes. However as you can
 probably see from my .muttrc I have been having trouble
 configuring this. Ideally I would like mutt to prompt for a
 from address every time I compose a new email, rather than
 having to use a macro which can properly function only once
 (subsequent attempts brings up a list of every alias
 entry). 

3.299. use_from

Type: boolean
Default: yes

When set, Mutt will generate the “From:” header field when
sending messages. If unset, no “From:” header field will be
generated unless the user explicitly sets one using the “my_hdr”
command.

So set use_from.  And:

3.74. from

Type: e-mail address
Default: (empty)

When set, this variable contains a default from address. It can
be overridden using “my_hdr” (including from a “send-hook”) and
$reverse_name. This variable is ignored if $use_from is unset.

This setting defaults to the contents of the environment variable
$EMAIL.

And explicitly set from to an empty string.

I don't have the time to test this, but I assume it gives you an
empty from header.  If you also set

3.57. edit_headers

Type: boolean
Default: no

This option allows you to edit the header of your outgoing
messages along with the body of your message.

Note that changes made to the References: and Date: headers are
ignored for interoperability reasons.

You are able to edit all email header within your editor.


 Also I note that currently my alternate addresses seem
 to have no function, as the index limiting macros have the
 addresses input as literal strings anyway. Any help would be
 appreciated :-) .

Still no access to your settings.  I described in my previous
email how to set alternate email addresses.  What happens if you
hit `l' (for limit) when you are seeing your folder index (the
emails in your folder) and give `~P' as the limiting pattern?

Should show all emails from all your email addresses.

Ciao, Gregor
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Re: Help with multiple emails

[Jostein Gogstad]

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 01:59:44PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote:
 Hi 42possibletrash, mutt users,
 * 42possibletr...@googlemail.com 42possibletr...@googlemail.com [22. Oct. 
 2011]:
I have looked for an answer online but failed. To clarify what I
  want is to be able to swap email accounts within one session of mutt,
  possibly using a set of macro bound keys. I was using mbox format
  within Eudora, but have decided to move to maildir, the conversion
  seems to work perfectly. I have also started this thread online, but
  unfortunately did not get a lot of help:
  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-898276.html. 
  Once I have mutt viewing each account properly I will then configure it to
  receive and send emails. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me.
  :-)
 
 For this to achieve it's best to use folder-hooks.  you enter a
 folder and your settings are set up accordingly.

I currently manage three accounts with mutt, and folder- and send-hooks does it
for me. If you want macros, you might want to check out muttprofile [1].

  Once I have mutt viewing each account properly I will then configure it to
  receive and send emails. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me.
  :-)

I'd recommend fetchmail and some custom MTA for choosing the correct
SMTP-server based on the To-field for this. For instance msmtp.

[1] http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~mara/mutt/profiles.html

-- 
Jostein

Re: Help with multiple emails

[42possibletrash]

Thank you for your replies Gregor Zattler and Jostein Gogstad. I have 
followed Gregor's advice and moved all my emails into one folder, 
/data/mail. This is my current .muttrc: 
http://ompldr.org/vYXh6ZQ]http://ompldr.org/vYXh6ZQ. The current problem 
I am having is setting up mutt to my liking in terms of composing 
emails. This may not be a crucial problem, but I hope you don't mind 
helping me out all the same. On eudora and previous email clients I was 
able, albeit with some work, to get them to let me compose new emails 
with no 'From' information by default. This helped as it meant that I 
had to consider which account I should be sending emails from on an 
individual basis, hence less mistakes. However as you can probably see 
from my .muttrc I have been having trouble configuring this. Ideally I 
would like mutt to prompt for a from address every time I compose a new 
email, rather than having to use a macro which can properly function 
only once (subsequent attempts brings up a list of every alias entry). 
Also I note that currently my alternate addresses seem to have no 
function, as the index limiting macros have the addresses input as 
literal strings anyway. Any help would be appreciated :-) .

Re: Help with multiple emails

[Gregor Zattler]

Hi 42possibletrash, mutt users,
* 42possibletr...@googlemail.com 42possibletr...@googlemail.com [22. Oct. 
2011]:
 My problem is the lack of obvious support for someone
 with several email addresses. I have four email accounts, for which
 mutt will work well with one at a time, but I have no method of
 swaping. 

Mutt supports various using several email addresses in a generic
way.  It is for instance not necessary to separate emails from
different accounts in different mail folders.

First you have to tell mutt about the email addresses you
use -- as opposed to every other email address in emails you
receive. Read 3.11 Alternative Addresses in the fine manual.

The minimum configuration is like this:
alternates ^m...@home.info$
alternates ^m...@work.com$
alternates ^roleacco...@organisation.org$

Then you may for instance limit the index of a mail folder to
only show emails which originate from you with the search pattern
~P or to only show mails which are from you or addressed to you.  

While in the one-email-folder-per-account organisation you for
instance will not find an email from a working colleague because
it's not in the work related mail folder since s/he emailed your
private address...  If you keep all your emails in one folder
then you can limit the index to only show emails from you to
em...@example.com ore from em...@example.com to you respectively
with ~L em...@example.com.

Then there are a few variables to control how mutt reacts in case
you reply to an email.  If for instance reverse_name is set
(default is not set) and the email you are replying to originates
or is addressed to one of your email addresses, mutt uses this
email address in replies, otherwise it will use your email
address as indicated by your OS.

Normally, if you reply to an email the resulting new
email is addressed to the address in the From: header field.  But
if mutt knows which addresses are yours it will arrange to
address the new email to the address in the To: header field if
the original email originated from you (if you for instance want
to ask a person why s/he did not respond to your earlier email).  

If you separate specific emails in specific mail folders then you
can trigger certain settings specific to this mail folders via
folder-hooks.

You may also specify settings for sending and replying via
send-hooks and reply-hooks and mix them.

And last not least you may bind macros to keys.  The macros may
set settings according to what you now are used to as account
settings.

For me a dynamic configuration which automatically chooses
certain settings based on the mail folder I'm viewing and/or the
email I'm replying to is much more comfortable than always having
to remember to press a key first.  But none the less I also have
macros like this:
macro generic \e8 enter-command source 
$HOME/.mutt/profiles/telegr...@gmx.net/settings\n be Gregor Zattler 
telegr...@gmx.net


which stitches all dynamic configuration off and sets things for
a specific role of mine.

 Please note that at this time I have not configured any
 program to receive my emails and am only concerned with moving my
 emails over to be viewed on mutt. My .muttrc:
 http://ompldr.org/vYXUxZQ. When researching this problem I came to
 the conclusion it should be possible to write a macro to swap from
 one email to another, e.g. F1-4. However I am not convinced this
 would be possible now as I am aware each email has it's own mailbox,
 e.g. '/Main', with it's own subdirectories, e.g. '/Inbox'. This
 complicates matters as the script used to find mailboxes is static
 and does not rely on mutts own internal vars, e.g. '$folder'. I am at
 a lose, and would desperately appreciate any help possible.
   I have looked for an answer online but failed. To clarify what I
 want is to be able to swap email accounts within one session of mutt,
 possibly using a set of macro bound keys. I was using mbox format
 within Eudora, but have decided to move to maildir, the conversion
 seems to work perfectly. I have also started this thread online, but
 unfortunately did not get a lot of help:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-898276.html. Once I have mutt
 viewing each account properly I will then configure it to receive and
 send emails. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. :-)

For this to achieve it's best to use folder-hooks.  you enter a
folder and your settings are set up accordingly.


Mutt is extremely flexible and customisable but you will have to
read the fine manual.

HTH, Gregor
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Re: Help Reqd in mutt

[Kyle Wheeler]

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On Thursday, September 25 at 12:02 PM, quoth Maruvada, Suryakiran:
 1. Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.

 eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail Id

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url?

 2 . Is there any command to send a list of files as attachments ? 
 Instead of  prefixing -a to each file ?

To quote the man page:

 -a file [...]
Attach a file to your message using MIME. To attach
multiple files, separating filenames and recipient
addresses with -- is mandatory,
e.g. mutt -a img.jpg *.png -- addr1 addr2

 3. I need to send the contents of a file as Message body. How.?

Use the file as input, like so:

 mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  message.txt

That's in the mutt man page too.

 4. What does mutt command returns.?

You could find that out by just trying a test message...

 5.  I need to move the list of files once the mail is sent ...ie. In the 
 above command 
  eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail 
 Id
Once the mails are sent I need to move file1, file2 to a 
 different folder.

Well, mutt won't move them, but you can do it all by yourself:

 mutt -s subject -a file1 file2  body.txt  \
 mv file1 file2 folder/

Is there some reason you don't want to do that?

A lot of this you can find out by just thumbing through the 
documentation.

~Kyle
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Re: Help Reqd in mutt

[Maruvada, Suryakiran]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kyle Wheeler
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:47 PM
To: mutt-users@mutt.org
Subject: Re: Help Reqd in mutt

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On Thursday, September 25 at 12:02 PM, quoth Maruvada, Suryakiran:
 1. Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.

 eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail Id

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url?

 2 . Is there any command to send a list of files as attachments ? 
 Instead of  prefixing -a to each file ?

To quote the man page:

 -a file [...]
Attach a file to your message using MIME. To attach
multiple files, separating filenames and recipient
addresses with -- is mandatory,
e.g. mutt -a img.jpg *.png -- addr1 addr2

 3. I need to send the contents of a file as Message body. How.?

Use the file as input, like so:

 mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  message.txt

That's in the mutt man page too.

 4. What does mutt command returns.?

You could find that out by just trying a test message...

 5.  I need to move the list of files once the mail is sent ...ie. In
the 
 above command 
  eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail 
 Id
Once the mails are sent I need to move file1, file2 to a 
 different folder.

Well, mutt won't move them, but you can do it all by yourself:

 mutt -s subject -a file1 file2  body.txt  \
 mv file1 file2 folder/

Is there some reason you don't want to do that?

A lot of this you can find out by just thumbing through the 
documentation.

~Kyle
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*

Thanks for a Quick Response...

For Point 1 . Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to
know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.. 

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url

ANSWER : 
echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 25 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 26 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch


For Point 4,and 5 my requirement is on successful sending of the Files
only I need to move the files from the current folder to Sent/ folder.
Hence I need to check the return value .

**

Re: Help Reqd in mutt

[Maruvada, Suryakiran]

Hi Can any body help me for the points 1 and 5.

*

Thanks for a Quick Response...

For Point 1 . Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to
know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.. 

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url

ANSWER : 
echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 25 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 26 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch


For Point 4,and 5 my requirement is on successful sending of the Files
only I need to move the files from the current folder to Sent/ folder.
Hence I need to check the return value .



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Maruvada, Suryakiran
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:26 AM
To: Kyle Wheeler; mutt-users@mutt.org
Subject: Re: Help Reqd in mutt



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kyle Wheeler
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:47 PM
To: mutt-users@mutt.org
Subject: Re: Help Reqd in mutt

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On Thursday, September 25 at 12:02 PM, quoth Maruvada, Suryakiran:
 1. Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.

 eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail Id

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url?

 2 . Is there any command to send a list of files as attachments ? 
 Instead of  prefixing -a to each file ?

To quote the man page:

 -a file [...]
Attach a file to your message using MIME. To attach
multiple files, separating filenames and recipient
addresses with -- is mandatory,
e.g. mutt -a img.jpg *.png -- addr1 addr2

 3. I need to send the contents of a file as Message body. How.?

Use the file as input, like so:

 mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  message.txt

That's in the mutt man page too.

 4. What does mutt command returns.?

You could find that out by just trying a test message...

 5.  I need to move the list of files once the mail is sent ...ie. In
the 
 above command 
  eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail 
 Id
Once the mails are sent I need to move file1, file2 to a 
 different folder.

Well, mutt won't move them, but you can do it all by yourself:

 mutt -s subject -a file1 file2  body.txt  \
 mv file1 file2 folder/

Is there some reason you don't want to do that?

A lot of this you can find out by just thumbing through the 
documentation.

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*

Thanks for a Quick Response...

For Point 1 . Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to
know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.. 

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url

ANSWER : 
echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 25 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 26 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch


For Point 4,and 5 my requirement is on successful sending of the Files
only I need to move the files from the current folder to Sent/ folder.
Hence I need to check the return value .

**

Re: help with formulating a better macro

[Rado S]

=- Kevin Beranek wrote on Thu 14.Aug'08 at 16:59:27 -0500 -=

  Set edit_headers=yes and detour $editor to a script of yours
  dealing with the necessary header changes, and reset $editor to
  the default after the mail was sent, no need to touch so many
  other mutt interal vars you'd have to reset again.
 
 That's an excellent idea.  I really like that.

Don't forget to reset edit_headers, too, unless you want to have it
for regular mail, too.

 What I was trying to say is that I attempted to use it after the
 exec mail portion, but the unmy_hdr appears to be executed
 before the prompts for sending a new email start which isn't what
 I expected or wanted to happen.

Probably a quoting levels problem, related to the unnecessary use of
push.

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Re: help with formulating a better macro

[Rado S]

=- Kevin Beranek wrote on Thu 14.Aug'08 at  1:44:29 -0500 -=

 I wrote a macro to automate a portion of sending myself an email
 that will get caught by a filter and moved to a special folder. It
 sets the From, To, Reply-To, and Subject header fields and then
 fires up an editor to compose the email.

Set edit_headers=yes and detour $editor to a script of yours dealing
with the necessary header changes, and reset $editor to the default
after the mail was sent, no need to touch so many other mutt interal
vars you'd have to reset again.

 I've tried to unset the fields as part of the macro after it fires
 up the editor but I can't seem to find an incantation that works.

RTFM my_hdr, the reverse is right next to it.

 macro index \CR :push ':set from=address; my_hdr Reply-To:
 address; \ my_hdr To: address+reminder; my_hdr Subject:
 ==Reminder==; \ exec mail;'\n\n

Useless use of :push ':...', drop 1 level of evaluation.

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Re: help with formulating a better macro

[Kevin Beranek]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 02:46:23PM +0200, Rado S wrote:
 =- Kevin Beranek wrote on Thu 14.Aug'08 at  1:44:29 -0500 -=
 
  I wrote a macro to automate a portion of sending myself an email
  that will get caught by a filter and moved to a special folder. It
  sets the From, To, Reply-To, and Subject header fields and then
  fires up an editor to compose the email.
 
 Set edit_headers=yes and detour $editor to a script of yours dealing
 with the necessary header changes, and reset $editor to the default
 after the mail was sent, no need to touch so many other mutt interal
 vars you'd have to reset again.

That's an excellent idea.  I really like that.

 
  I've tried to unset the fields as part of the macro after it fires
  up the editor but I can't seem to find an incantation that works.
 
 RTFM my_hdr, the reverse is right next to it.

I'm aware of unmy_hdr.  What I was trying to say is that I attempted to
use it after the exec mail portion, but the unmy_hdr appears to be
executed before the prompts for sending a new email start which isn't
what I expected or wanted to happen.
 

 
  macro index \CR :push ':set from=address; my_hdr Reply-To:
  address; \ my_hdr To: address+reminder; my_hdr Subject:
  ==Reminder==; \ exec mail;'\n\n
 
 Useless use of :push ':...', drop 1 level of evaluation.

I'm not quite sure what I was doing wrong before, I couldn't get it
to work without the :push, but it seems to work fine now.

 
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 EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude.
 You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.


Kevin Beranek

Re: Help with PGP signature config

[Ignacio Mondino]

Looks like mutt developers are already taking care of this :)

http://bugs.mutt.org/trac/ticket/3067

Thanks.

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Re: Help with PGP signature config

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Ignacio Mondino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-09-08 14:49]:
 
 Seems like some web mail services (gmail, yahoo and some others) append
 the content of my signature file to the mail body resulting in somting
 like:
 
 snip
 message
 -
   sig
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
 
 iD8DBQFIc/ZbuPfkTSOyAeERAqjmAJ9qSNLfqvo1A2PlZDHMZ8uOKYQdowCfQqP4
 VOqwWdgkAPdks2lzAWU47HA=
 =bwF1
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
 
 snip
 
 However, this happends only when I send mail with mutt and not with
 thunderird or evolution.

set pgp_clearsign_command=


3.185. pgp_clearsign_command

   Type: string
   Default: 
  
   This format is used to create a old-style clearsigned PGP
   message.
   Note that the use of this format is strongly deprecated. (PGP only)



don't use clearsign.
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Re: Help with PGP signature config

[Ignacio Mondino]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:07:09PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 set pgp_clearsign_command=
 
 
 3.185. pgp_clearsign_command
 
Type: string
Default: 
   
This format is used to create a old-style clearsigned PGP
message.
Note that the use of this format is strongly deprecated. (PGP only)
   
   
 
 don't use clearsign.

, seems like  set unset pgp_clearsign_command or simply comment
de line doen't do the trick, any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Help with PGP signature config

[Angel Olivera]

On Wed 09.Jul.08 15:47, Ignacio Mondino wrote:
Seems like some web mail services (gmail, yahoo and some others) 
append the content of my signature file to the mail body resulting in 
somting like:


[...]


Is there a way to configure mutt to do the same as the other MUA's?


Maybe your distribution sets $pgp_autoinline by default? Try unsetting 
it.


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Re: Help with PGP signature config

[Ignacio Mondino]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 11:36:33PM +0200, Angel Olivera wrote:
 Maybe your distribution sets $pgp_autoinline by default? Try unsetting  
 it.

Doesn't work either, Im using Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17) in Debian Lenny
and testing against a gmail account.

Thanks.
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Re: help

[Lucas J . González]

Sorry for the prev. I used the wrong address

El  0, Lucas J. González [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
 help
 

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Re: Help me upgrade from mutt-devel-1.5.13 to mutt-devel-1.5.15

[Alain Bench]

Hello Odhiambo,

 On Thursday, May 3, 2007 at 16:23:53 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

| pattern.o: In function `mutt_which_case':
| pattern.o(.text+0x68): undefined reference to `iswalpha'
| pattern.o(.text+0x7d): undefined reference to `iswupper'
| *** Error code 1

I assume that on FreeBSD 4.11 config.h declares no HAVE_ISWALPHA nor
HAVE_ISWUPPER, right? Mutt 1.5.13 didn't use those functions. Now
Mutt 1.5.15 makes use of iswalpha() and iswupper() in only
pattern.c:mutt_which_case(), but doesn't look like embedding any
fallback solution for when they are absent. I suppose this can be
considered as a Mutt portability bug, that you should report to
URL:http://bugs.mutt.org/.


Bye!Alain.
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Re: Help please with mutt, but how?

[Rado S]

=- David Hoover wrote on Mon 22.Jan'07 at  7:55:40 -0600 -=

 I have a system running Red Hat Linux. We did a reboot on
 December 20, 2006. Prior to the reboot, mutt was working great.
 After the reboot, I have no e-mails going out using mutt. I have
 tried to manually send an e-mail using mutt beside the automated
 script that had been working prior to the reboot. My hope is
 that you might be able to spot what is missing to have cased
 mutt to have stopped.

Spot _where_??? You didn't give anything to spot, like error-msgs
or log-files excerpts (_NO_ full logs, please!).
Please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Also see http://wiki.mutt.org/?DebugConfig for trouble- shooting
mutt and how to get more info.

Also have a look at your local sendmail log-files, somewhere in
/var/log/mail or similar, check /etc/syslog.conf for where it is
exactly.

 I have tried to send e-mail from a regular user as well as root.

No no no, never work as root, unless that's required.
 Mail does not. ;)

 Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

You must help us first to be able to help you (yourself).

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Even if it seems insignificant, in fact EVERY effort counts
for a shared task, at least to show your deserving attitude.

Re: Help please with mutt

[David Champion]

* On 2007.01.22, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   David Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a system running Red Hat Linux. We did a reboot on December 20, 2006.
 Prior to the reboot, mutt was working great. After the reboot, I have no
 e-mails going out using mutt. I have tried to manually send an e-mail using
 mutt beside the automated script that had been working prior to the reboot.
 My hope is that you might be able to spot what is missing to have cased mutt
 to have stopped.

If a reboot stopped your ability to send mail, but not to read it, then
it's very possible that the problem is your SMTP server, not mutt.
Check that sendmail (or postfix, or qmail, or whatever you use) is
running.

You can verify this with ps (is it running now) and chkconfig (does your
system run it on boot).

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Re: Help on forward - macro+source+forward

[Pascal Brugier]

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:52:38AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
 * Pascal Brugier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 02:55]:
  I have many folders managed by Procmail and Mutt, I've a
  particular one in which i received mails with always the same
  subject:
  Eepdate: FQDN machine name
 
  When i forward this mail i want to always forward it to the same
  recipient and if possible always have the same body in the
  forwarded mail. example:
 
  Forwarded body
 
  added body
 
  I tried with send-hook but i cant obtain
  what i want, perhaps it my fault.
 
 hmm... there is no such thing as a forward-hook -
 but you can use a macro to forward the current message
 to some address, and then some send-hook can be applied
 to source a setup file which contains the necessary settings:
 
   macro index ~~ forward-message...
 
 the following steps require the knwowledge of the prompts
 that follow - and thus it depends on your current setup.
 you might want to source the special setup file first
 to make sure about the current settings.
 
   macro index ~~ :source filename\nforward-message...
 
 the solution depends on what you really want.
 as soon as you know eaxtly you can tell us.
 then we can help further.
 

OK, I try ;-)

For system administration we install a script on every station
we have to administrate. This script control if Debian packages
installed on the station are always up to date. If no the
script send us a mail which is always of the same format:

From: admin@FQDN_station_name
To: admin@ #(always the same address here)
Subject: Eepdate: FQDN_station_name

The body off the mail tell us which packages must be updated

I have a mail box for this kind off messages (Procmail of
course)

What I want to do is:

Replying to this mail (when upgrade is done :-)) with:

To: admin@ #(always the same address here)
Subject: Eepdate: FQDN_station_name DONE

And the reply body is made with a part which is the body off 
the message I received and a part I add, this last part well be
always the same. Something Like: The upgrade is done

The real question is how to do this by a forward which well do
all that I said before. I know that the address to which I
forward has to be give by my self and not by automated
forward.

I hope that i use better English and that it's more easy to
understand what i want.

Thank you very much,
Pascal

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Re: Help on forward - procmail+reply

[Sven Guckes]

* Pascal Brugier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-06 09:51]:
 For system administration we install a script on every station
 we have to administrate. This script control if Debian packages
 installed on the station are always up to date. If no the
 script send us a mail which is always of the same format:

From: admin@FQDN_station_name
To: admin@ #(always the same address here)
Subject: Eepdate: FQDN_station_name

 The body of the mail tells us which packages must be updated
 I have a mail box for this kind of  messages (Procmail of course)
 What I want to do is: [when] Replying to this mail..

well, your original request was about forward - not reply.
so this is why you should have described your problem in
the first place as this turns out to be quite different.

 (when upgrade is done :-)) with:
   To: admin@ #(always the same address here)
   Subject: Eepdate: FQDN_station_name DONE

you'll get the admin@ address if there were an
appropriate Reply-To: line with this kind of email, right?
so i suggest you will instruct procmail to add such
a line before storing it in your special folder.

oyutline of procmail settings and rule:

  FQDN=easter-eggs.com
  REPLYADDRESS=admin@whatever

  :0 hfw
  * ^From:.*admin@$FQDN
  |formail -a Reply-To: $REPLYADDRESS

note: untested.  but you'll get the idea.

 And the reply body is made with a part which is the body of
 the message I received and a part I add, this last part well
 be always the same. Something Like: The upgrade is done

this changes the message - and therefore you should use the power
of your editor to apply it.  (set editor=vi and :r filename).

 The real question is how to do this by a forward..

please forget about the forward and think in terms of reply.

Sven

Re: Help on forward - macro+source+forward

[Sven Guckes]

* Pascal Brugier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 02:55]:
 I have many folders managed by Procmail and Mutt, I've a
 particular one in which i received mails with always the same
 subject:
 Eepdate: FQDN machine name

 When i forward this mail i want to always forward it to the same
 recipient and if possible always have the same body in the
 forwarded mail. example:

 Forwarded body

 added body

 I tried with send-hook but i cant obtain
 what i want, perhaps it my fault.

hmm... there is no such thing as a forward-hook -
but you can use a macro to forward the current message
to some address, and then some send-hook can be applied
to source a setup file which contains the necessary settings:

  macro index ~~ forward-message...

the following steps require the knwowledge of the prompts
that follow - and thus it depends on your current setup.
you might want to source the special setup file first
to make sure about the current settings.

  macro index ~~ :source filename\nforward-message...

the solution depends on what you really want.
as soon as you know eaxtly you can tell us.
then we can help further.

Sven

Re: Help with installing mutt 1.4 on AIX

[Thomas Dickey]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 03:08:04PM -0400, Bright, Frank wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We are trying to install mutt on AIX.  This is version 1.4 of mutt and AIX
 4.3.3.  The zip is untarred but the program will not execute saying 
 
 Error opening terminal: wy50.

perhaps it was compiled with the location of the terminfo directory set
to a nonstandard location (or uses libraries that aren't compatible with
AIX's terminfo).  There are a few possibilities.  Running 'strings' on
the binary should show terminfo and/or termcap.  If it shows only
the former, it is compiled against curses or ncurses; setting TERMINFO
to something like /usr/lib/terminfo may fix it.  If the latter (termcap),
it won't work with AIX's terminfo, but requires a termcap file.
 
 Has anyone experienced this problem and how to solve it?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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 Colleague 16.461  AIX 4.3.3 Unidata 5.139

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Re: help on mutt encription

[David T-G]

Yan --

...and then Siyan Li said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello!


%   I am trying to figure out how to configure mutt so that the DSA sign
% will present as my signuture, or just below my signuture, not to be sent
% as an attachment. Please do tell me if there is a way to do so.

While it's not recommended and discussion of it could start another Holy
War, it can be done.  Check the manual for pgp_create_traditional and go
from there.

If you plan to trade mail with LookOut! users, though, it isn't quite
that easy; you'll need either 1.5.x or Dale's pgp-traditional patch for
1.3.x (which you can get from

  http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/
  
or from, IIRC, woolridge.org/mutt) to really, really break mutt and force
it down to Outhouse's level.


%   Thanks!

HTH  HAND


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Re: help on mutt encription

[Rocco Rutte]

Hi,

* Siyan Li [05/28/02 01:30:49 CEST] wrote:
 I am trying to figure out how to configure mutt so that
 the DSA sign will present as my signuture, or just below
 my signuture, not to be sent as an attachment. Please do
 tell me if there is a way to do so.

I guess you're looking for pgp_create_traditional in the
manual which won't work with mutt prior to 1.3 (IIRC).

Cheers, Rocco.

Re: help on mutt encription

[Rocco Rutte]

Hi,

* Siyan Li [05/28/02 01:30:49 CEST] wrote:
 I am trying to figure out how to configure mutt so that
 the DSA sign will present as my signuture, or just below
 my signuture, not to be sent as an attachment. Please do
 tell me if there is a way to do so.

... and no matter if you'll work that out you should really
check your setup.

If you put a mail address in the Mail-Followup-To: header
than make sure that something like this:

,-
| Hi. This is the qmail-send program at free.fr.
| I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
| This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
`-

doesn't happen. Your Message-Id is incorrect, too.

Cheers, Rocco.

Re: Help with Mailcap

[Thomas Baker]

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 01:59:32PM +0530, V. Suresh wrote:
 I was a mutt fan while I was using Linux at home. Now at
 work place, I've configured mutt for windows. But I'm unable
 to configure mail cap entries.
  Even though I keep the mime.types and mailcap files under my
 HOME directory, still, mutt says no mailcap entry found.
  I want to open .doc, .xls files using Word and Excel, respectively,
 but I'm unable to configure the mail-cap entries. Please help.
  Anybody using Mutt under windows here??

I spent the better part of an afternoon trying in vain to
configure mailcap for mutt under Cygwin.  I tried numerous
variants (eg, using either DOS-style or Cygwin-style pathnames)
and made a detailed posting to the list last month (see below)
but there were no responses.

So there are at least two of us with this problem now.
Any others?

Tom




Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:11:16 +0200
From: Thomas Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mutt Users' List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: No matching mailcap entry...
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i, Unixmail for Windows 0.6
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear all,

I am having trouble configuring mailcap to do anything
at all.  I am configuring Mutt 1.2.5i on Cygwin (see mutt -v
output below), and it seems to run normally in other respects
-- at any rate, I can read, send, and receive messages.

When I run:
mutt -F c:/cygwin/unixmail/users/tbaker/muttrc -f test-file

Mutt correctly reads:
1) c:/cygwin/unixmail/users/tbaker/muttrc, which sources
2) c:/cygwin/unixmail/etc/Muttrc

In _both_ muttrc and Muttrc (alternately), I have tested the following:
set mailcap_path=c:/cygwin/unixmail/etc/mailcap
set mailcap_path=/cygdrive/c/cygwin/unixmail/etc/mailcap
set mailcap_path=/unixmail/etc/mailcap

where c:/cygwin/unixmail/etc/mailcap consists of just one test line:
application/msword;   less %s  

Yet when I run
mutt -F c:/cygwin/unixmail/users/tbaker/muttrc -f test-file

and try to call up an attachment of Content-Type: application/msword, 
confirming that the type is application/msword, Mutt tells me No 
matching mailcap entry found.  Viewing as text.

I have spent the better part of three hours checking and re-checking
the pathnames, Content-Type:, dependencies between configuration files,
etc -- even on different test-files -- and am at a loss as to where 
the problem could lie.  Am I overlooking something obvious?

Tom





--
output of mutt -v
--

Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28)
Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 1.3.10(0.51/3/2) [using ncurses 5.2]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
+HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  -USE_POP  -HAVE_REGCOMP  +USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  -ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL=no
MAILPATH=spool
SHAREDIR=/cygdrive/f/home/projects/unixmail/build/mutt/local/lib/mutt
SYSCONFDIR=/cygdrive/f/home/projects/unixmail/build/mutt/local/etc
-ISPELL
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility.


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Re: Help with Mailcap [cygwin]

[Sven Guckes]

* Thomas Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-22 13:47]:
  I'm unable to configure the mail-cap entries.
  Anybody using Mutt under windows here??
 I spent the better part of an afternoon trying in
 vain to configure mailcap for mutt under Cygwin. ..
 So there are at least two of us with this problem now.
 Any others?

you should get in touch with Chris Houser
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
maintainer of the following site on SF:
http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net/

I suggest you try to get the latest
version of mutt running for windows.

Sven

Re: Help with Mailcap [cygwin]

[Thomas Baker]

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 04:29:40PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
 * Thomas Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-22 13:47]:
   I'm unable to configure the mail-cap entries.
   Anybody using Mutt under windows here??
..
 you should get in touch with Chris Houser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 maintainer of the following site on SF:
 http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net/

The Unixmail suite runs on Cygwin, and this URL was actually
my source of the fetchmail etc that I am currently using --
the same tarball that is posted there now.  But I will get
in touch with Chris all the same.

 I suggest you try to get the latest
 version of mutt running for windows.

I just checked cygwin.com and it would appear that the
Mutt 1.2.5i I already have is up-to-date.  In my understanding,
the native WIN32 ports of Mutt are not as solid as the Cygwin
port.

Thanks,
Tom

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Re: Help with Mailcap [cygwin]

[Steve Kennedy]

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:55:23PM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:

 I just checked cygwin.com and it would appear that the
 Mutt 1.2.5i I already have is up-to-date.  In my understanding,
 the native WIN32 ports of Mutt are not as solid as the Cygwin
 port.

Cygwin now has fetchmail as one of the supported packages, and
it's also had ssmtp for a while.

Steve

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Re: Help with Mailcap [cygwin]

[Thomas Baker]

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:39:23PM +0100, Steve Kennedy wrote:
 On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:55:23PM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:
  I just checked cygwin.com and it would appear that the
  Mutt 1.2.5i I already have is up-to-date.  In my understanding,
  the native WIN32 ports of Mutt are not as solid as the Cygwin
  port.
 
 Cygwin now has fetchmail as one of the supported packages, and
 it's also had ssmtp for a while.

I noticed the fetchmail for the first time today -- and now
procmail, a pleasant surprise.  As far as I can tell, however,
the Cygwin fetchmail bundled with Unixmail works just fine.
I'm assuming the non-functioning mailcap would be a problem
with Mutt itself?

Tom

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Re: help with folder hook?

[David T-G]

Nick --

...and then Nick Wilson said...
% 
% -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
% Hash: SHA1
% 
% Hi everyone...
% Could someone help me sort this folder-hook out please?

I can try...


% 
% folder-hook =Tioka/nick set my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% 
% That doesn't work and it will not work without the 'set' either so I'm a
% little stumped :-)

You definitely don't want the set in there; my_hdr is a command, not a
parameter.

How does it not work?  What does mutt do or not do?  I have

  send-hook .   my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T-G)

and so I can't see why yours wouldn't work unless

- you're not entering =Tioka/nick like you think you are

- your quoting is throwing you off

and I don't think either very likely...


% 
% Many thanks...

HTH  HAND


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Re: help with folder hook?

[darren chamberlain]

* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-08 15:20]:
 Hi everyone...
 Could someone help me sort this folder-hook out please?
 
 folder-hook =Tioka/nick set my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  folder-hook =Tioka/nick set my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think you need to put set inside the quotes.

(darren)

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Re: Help for patching problem (attached)

[Vsevolod Volkov]

Hi Charles!

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:22:17AM +0800, Charles Jie wrote:
CJ Hi, Vsevolod,

CJ Could you help me identify what's wrong with my patching
CJ patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp?

CJ There are a couple of failures reported for 3 files. (patch.err)

CJ I have inspected browser.c. and its .rej but can not why - it looks it
CJ should work. (browser.c.rej, buffy.c.rej and compose.c.rej)

CJ Is it because I have an incompatible patch tool?

CJ 1. mutt-1.3.27i.tar.gz and patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp are just downloaded
CJyesterday.

CJ 2. my patch is patch-2.5.4-9mdk

CJ 3. my diff is diffutils-2.7-29mdk

CJ 4. It's Mandrake 8.1 box with locale zh_TW.Big.

Here are commands to patch mutt:

vvv md5 *
MD5 (mutt-1.3.27i.tar.gz) = 88e7e61686b0959733ae3f7cadb07bce
MD5 (patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp) = f7e96b2d1f7f72c40ec98cc6da5da889
vvv tar xzf mutt-1.3.27i.tar.gz
vvv patch -p0 patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp
vvv find mutt-1.3.27 -name '*.rej'
vvv

I have no rejects after patching. Probably, you've applied other
patches before patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp.

CJ Many thanks.

CJ best regards,
CJ charlie
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Re: Help for patching problem (attached)

[Charles Jie]

Hi, Vsevolod,

Thank you very much for your quick response. And it hit the problem!

I use 'md5sum' to check both downloads. mutt is OK but your patch got a
different MD5.

I download your patch again with Nescape and this time it gets the same
MD5 as that you gave.

I recalled that I downloaded your patch yesterday with Lynx - it didn't
go to disk directly. It happened to be displayed on screen and saved to
disk afterward. This caused the patch to have many changes in tab and
space! Yes, just differences in white spaces. And this is why I could not
identify it with the context, which looks OK in all places.

Thank you again. I'm ready to try it. :-)

best regards,
charlie


On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 12:24:27PM +0200, Vsevolod Volkov wrote:
 Hi Charles!

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:22:17AM +0800, Charles Jie wrote:
 CJ Hi, Vsevolod,

 CJ Could you help me identify what's wrong with my patching
 CJ patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp?


 CJ 1. mutt-1.3.27i.tar.gz and patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp are just downloaded
 CJyesterday.


 Here are commands to patch mutt:

 vvv md5 *
 MD5 (mutt-1.3.27i.tar.gz) = 88e7e61686b0959733ae3f7cadb07bce
 MD5 (patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp) = f7e96b2d1f7f72c40ec98cc6da5da889
 vvv tar xzf mutt-1.3.27i.tar.gz
 vvv patch -p0 patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp
 vvv find mutt-1.3.27 -name '*.rej'
 vvv

 I have no rejects after patching. Probably, you've applied other
 patches before patch-1.3.27.vvv.nntp.

Re: Help

[Cameron Simpson]

On 11:35 30 Jan 2002, Mauro Bardini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I'm in trouble tryng to use mutt-prcmail to manage my attach files, I'm
| using this piece of figuration in my procmailrc
| 
| METAMAIL_TMPDIR=$MAILDIR/attach/$DATE
| :0cbhHB:
| | metamail -q -w -x
|
| 
| 
| to save tha attach file separately. all is working well, but the name of the
| output file of metamail (the attach file I want to use) seems a random
| sequence of letter. In the man page of metamail I read: 
| 
| -w 
| This option tells metamail that instead of consulting a mailcap file to
| decide how to display the data, it should simply decode each part and write
| it to a file in its raw (possibly binary) format. Depending on the
| circumstances in which it is called, metamail may derive the file name to
| use from the message headers, by asking the user, or by generating a unique
| temporary file name.
| 
| 
| But i'd like to have my attach file with the original name, If someone send
| me the XYZ.gif file I would like to rescue in my $MAILDIR/attach/$DATE
| directory looking for the name XYZ.gif

I'm just using munpack, with no arguments and it seems to generate
sensibly named files.

If fact, I use this script wrapper:

http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/scripts/mailunpack

and thus:

| mailunpack topic

which makes a subdir (in case of filename collisions) and optionally calls
a filing script to do things with the unpacked files.

Works quite well for some things.
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Re: help a now confused mutt newbie

[Will Yardley]

rhad wrote:
 
 1) understand how exactly mutt recieves email.  In my first several
 attempts, I slowly gathered the impression that mutt wanted me to
 configure at least sendmail and fetchmail in addition to mutt.  I.e.:
 that mutt acts only as a viewing agent to the standard unix mail
 programs.  In the successive attempts to understand sendmail and
 fetchmail (neither of which I have ever used--at least knowingly) I
 have become slightly lost.  The mutt manual delves, IMHO, more into
 mutt configuration and uses, than actually explaining how the heck to
 get it to recieve email.

well mutt can also retrieve mail via POP3 or IMAP.  if your accounts
have IMAP access, you might consider using that.

if you have 3 incoming accounts, using fetchmail may, indeed, be a good
idea.

mutt can be a little overwhelming at first; i've found simply looking
through other peoples' .muttrcs online fairly instructive.

w/r/t sendmail; your suse machine probably already has some sort of MTA
(either sendmail or postfix most likely) installed; if this is the case,
you can use this.

 I want mutt to handle three email accounts:  this one, at my
 university, and 2 yahoo accounts.  I do not live at the university,
 but am on DSL in the surrounding area.  Therefore, I have one
 dedicated outgoing mail server for all of the accounts (swbell-DSL),
 and 3 pop servers for incoming mail.  I use suse linux 7.3, and I keep
 all my machines behind a NAT-based router with a static IP.

well probably the simplest solution would be to use fetchmail to
download mail from all 3 accounts, and possibly procmail or something
similar to sort the messages after downloading it. i'm not a big expert
on fetchmail, since i've never had to use it, but it's supposed to be
fairly simple.

Re: help a now confused mutt newbie

[David Champion]

On 2002.01.03, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
rhad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 1) understand how exactly mutt recieves email.  In my first several
 attempts, I slowly gathered the impression that mutt wanted me to configure
 at least sendmail and fetchmail in addition to mutt.  I.e.: that mutt acts
 only as a viewing agent to the standard unix mail programs.  In the
 successive attempts to understand sendmail and fetchmail (neither of which I
 have ever used--at least knowingly) I have become slightly lost.  The mutt
 manual delves, IMHO, more into mutt configuration and uses, than actually
 explaining how the heck to get it to recieve email.

I find it easier to think in simpler terms, just looking at definitions
and relationships. Mutt reads mail folders (it doesn't receive mail from
SMTP), and it hands off new mail to an MTA (it doesn't inject mail into
SMTP). A folder can be stored on your local filesystem, or it can be
stored on a networked mail server and read via a mail access protocol
(POP3 or IMAP) -- not the same as mail delivery!

To get new mail into your folders, you need other software. That
software can be a common unix mail delivery agent like mail.local,
procmail, deliver, maildrop, etc. Or it can be a program for downloading
mail via an access protocol, like fetchmail. (There are other favorites,
but I always forget their names.) Or it can be the delivery software
on your mail server, which feeds your POP and IMAP folders themselves.

So, to get new mail, you need at least one of three things:

1. A mail delivery agent (MDA) to pass messages from the mail
   transport agent (MTA) to a folder;

2. A program like fetchmail to pull messages down from a POP3 or
   IMAP server;

3. A mutt configuration that allows mutt to read messages directly
   from POP and IMAP message stores.

Chances are that you already have at least one of these available, if
you've ever used a mail program on the same system as mutt is on.


 2) Is there somebody out there who would not mind a potentially lengthy
 email-fest to help me figure this out?  I have (what I consider) to be a
 rather weird setup:
 
 I want mutt to handle three email accounts:  this one, at my university, and
 2 yahoo accounts.  I do not live at the university, but am on DSL in the
 surrounding area.  Therefore, I have one dedicated outgoing mail server for
 all of the accounts (swbell-DSL), and 3 pop servers for incoming mail.  I
 use suse linux 7.3, and I keep all my machines behind a NAT-based router
 with a static IP.

My workstation has an SMTP server on which I receive most of my mail.
It uses sendmail plus procmail to deliver mail into a wide assortment
of folders in my home directory. I also have one IMAP account and seven
POP3 accounts. I check the IMAP account only occasionally, but I want
the POP3 accounts to give me mail on fairly short order. Here are some
ideas that come from my setup.


Reading from local folders
--
Normally I just run mutt with defaults:
$ mutt

Mutt starts up on my local inbox, which is where all the new mail I care
to read lands. Procmail stores some messages elsewhere, but I don't
generally worry about those until some external stimulus makes me.
When that happens, I read the other folder:
$ mutt -f =ignore

or I change to it from inside mutt by pressing c and entering
=ignore.


Direct IMAP
---
I use a relatively recent 1.3 version of mutt, so the IMAP and POP
support is a little different from 1.2.5's. My mutt setup reads mail
from my inbox ($MAIL -- /var/mail/username) by default, since most of my
incoming mail lands there. When I want to read mail from IMAP, I just
run mutt with different arguments:
$ mutt -f imap://imap.server.name/
or
$ mutt -f '{imap.server.name}'

(Actually I use it via SSL:
$ mutt -f imaps://imap.server.name/
but that doesn't matter -- I mention it only because it's great that
mutt supports it.)


POP3 via Fetchmail
--
To read my POP3 messages, I have fetchmail configured to download my POP
messages from all servers every 10 minutes. Fetchmail hands them off
to sendmail and then procmail so that they get processed by the same
procmail rules as my SMTP mail. Lines from my .fetchmailrc file look
like this:

poll pop.mail.yahoo.com protocol pop3 username USER password PASS \
smtp localhost

I have a line similar to that for each server I want fetchmail to
handle. And in my crontab, I have this:

0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * * /opt/bin/fetchmail /dev/null 21

This cron task makes my new POP mail come down every 10 minutes from any
of the seven POP3 accounts.


Direct POP3
---
In truth, I have more POP3 accounts, but I don't want these messages
saved to my workstation's disk -- I want to browse them remotely. So,
when I compiled mutt, I used the --enable-pop switch to enable POP3
browsing mode. (I also use --enable-imap, --with-krb5, and --with-ssl,
by the way.) With POP3 browsing, 

Re: help

[David T-G]

Sam --

...and then Sam Phomsopha said...
% How do I get off this mailing list?

Ask the server to unsubscribe you, of course.  You kept the welcome to
the list; keep this message very first email you got, right?


% 
% Sam.


:-D
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Re: help

[Prahlad Vaidyanathan]

Hi,

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 Bela [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly:
 Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize 
 that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES 
 use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY 
 uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla 
 mail but that can be execute without X-windows.

AFAIK, POP3 and IMAP are purely for email retreival. Sending will _have_
to be through your MTA.

 I dont like to use my local sendmail!!!,

Sendmail is not all _that_ ungainly a beast - I quite like it really.

 i have an offline machine, i 
 just want to connect to internet, on console, execute a program, fetch 
 email , read and send mail using ONLY pop3 or imap, is that posible on a 
 modem unix like os such as freebsd ? is posible to set up mutt in order 
 to use only pop3 or imap for sending and reciving? this is the realation 
 i want:
 console   X-windows
 nestcapelynx
 wordperfectvi/ee/pico
 netscape-mail   what goes here?HELP!

Retreival : fetchmail
Filtering : procmail
Reading : mutt
Sending : Sendmail/Postfix/Exim/insert fav MTA here

Note : you will have to setup a 'SmartHost' for your offline machine,
so all mails are sent to another machine with DNS for sending.

Hope this helps.

pv.

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Re: help

[David T-G]

Bela --

...and then Bela Bartok said...
% Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize 
% that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES 

Yep.


% use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY 

Absolutely.


% uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla 
% mail but that can be execute without X-windows.

No mail program uses POP3 for sending.  Some other programs have been
known to make a connection directly to a remote machine's port 25 and
send that way, but mutt doesn't do that.


% I dont like to use my local sendmail!!!, i have an offline machine, i 

Why not?  Because it's scary and complex, or for some other reason?

There are a number of very simple Mail Transport Agents designed for such
an occasion; one such, as I recall, is called smail, and you can check
the mutt-users archives for mention of others.


% just want to connect to internet, on console, execute a program, fetch 
% email , read and send mail using ONLY pop3 or imap, is that posible on a 
% modem unix like os such as freebsd ? is posible to set up mutt in order 

Do you mean modem or modern?  In either case, since you talk about UNIX,
I find your question particularly ironic, because a basic tenet of UNIX's
philosophy is putting together small simple tools that do their things
well to make a complex tool.  mutt is a GOOD mail program and doesn't
need to bother with being an MTA as well.


% to use only pop3 or imap for sending and reciving? this is the realation 
% i want:
% console   X-windows
% nestcapelynx
% wordperfectvi/ee/pico
% netscape-mail   what goes here?HELP!

I think you have confused your columns :-)


% 
% please, I want a person that solve my mail problems,
% thanks alot

HTH  HAND


% 


:-D
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Re: help

[Bela Bartok]

hi, your letter, beside joke at me, did no solve my problem, you are the 
tipical person that joke at other's confusion and dont help!, you are 
the typical person that full mailing lists or wise, deep comments 
and reflections but dont help!!!. You are the typical open source 
anti-support guy.!

David T-G wrote:

Bela --

...and then Bela Bartok said...
% Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize 
% that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES 

Yep.


% use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY 

Absolutely.


% uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla 
% mail but that can be execute without X-windows.

No mail program uses POP3 for sending.  Some other programs have been
known to make a connection directly to a remote machine's port 25 and
send that way, but mutt doesn't do that.


% I dont like to use my local sendmail!!!, i have an offline machine, i 

Why not?  Because it's scary and complex, or for some other reason?

There are a number of very simple Mail Transport Agents designed for such
an occasion; one such, as I recall, is called smail, and you can check
the mutt-users archives for mention of others.


% just want to connect to internet, on console, execute a program, fetch 
% email , read and send mail using ONLY pop3 or imap, is that posible on a 
% modem unix like os such as freebsd ? is posible to set up mutt in order 

Do you mean modem or modern?  In either case, since you talk about UNIX,
I find your question particularly ironic, because a basic tenet of UNIX's
philosophy is putting together small simple tools that do their things
well to make a complex tool.  mutt is a GOOD mail program and doesn't
need to bother with being an MTA as well.


% to use only pop3 or imap for sending and reciving? this is the realation 
% i want:
% console   X-windows
% nestcapelynx
% wordperfectvi/ee/pico
% netscape-mail   what goes here?HELP!

I think you have confused your columns :-)


% 
% please, I want a person that solve my mail problems,
% thanks alot

HTH  HAND


% 


:-D

Re: help

[Markus Boelter]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 07:10:57AM -0500, Bela Bartok wrote:
 hi, your letter, beside joke at me, did no solve my problem, you are the 
 tipical person that joke at other's confusion and dont help!, you are 
 the typical person that full mailing lists or wise, deep comments 
 and reflections but dont help!!!. You are the typical open source 
 anti-support guy.!
Hey - I think you didn't read the email exect enough. I the mail from
the open source anti-support guy was written down that you shouldn't use
an email-client to deliver emails. You should use an MTA to deliver them.

So - If you really want an email-client also working as MTA (the program
to deliver your mails) you can't use mutt.

If you want use mutt, you should/must use a MTA like sendmail, postfix, exim,
... Whatever you want! It's your choice to use the best/fastest/simplest mta
or whatever YOU want.

So - I hope I could help you.

cu!
  Markus

Re: help

[MuttER]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 07:10:57AM -0500, Bela Bartok wrote:
 hi, your letter, beside joke at me, did no solve my problem, you are the 
 tipical person that joke at other's confusion and dont help!, you are 
 the typical person that full mailing lists or wise, deep comments 
 and reflections but dont help!!!. You are the typical open source 
 anti-support guy.!
 
 David T-G wrote:
 
 Bela --
 
 ...and then Bela Bartok said...
 % Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize 
 % that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES 
 
 Yep.
 
 
 % use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY 
 
 Absolutely.
 
 
 % uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla 
 % mail but that can be execute without X-windows.
 
 No mail program uses POP3 for sending.  Some other programs have been
 known to make a connection directly to a remote machine's port 25 and
 send that way, but mutt doesn't do that.
 
 
[[ s n i p ] 
---end quoted text---

David was making an honest attempt to reply to your questions which were
confusing, in part due to your command of the english language.  THIS IS NOT
bashing you for your problems with english, but pointing out the
difficulties of INTERPRETING your questions and trying to answer clearly.

Continuing to DERIDE the individuals here who attempt to help you will only
gain more derision and LESS assistance.
-- 
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Registered at: http://counter.li.org

Re: help

[Erika Pacholleck]

[16.11.01 14:33 -0500] Bela Bartok -- :
 Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize 
 that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES 
 use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY 
 uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla 
 mail but that can be execute without X-windows.

imap and pop3 are just protocols and have nothing to do with any action
of sending or receiving. And the task of an email client is to show the
emails, (call a writing program for) writing answers and handle the
answer over to a program which sends the mail out.

 I dont like to use my local sendmail!!!, 
  use one of the alternates, nullmailer, postfix, qmail, exim ...

 i have an offline machine, i just want to connect to internet,
 on console,
  pppd for modem

 execute a program,
  your /bin and /usr/bin directories have a lot to play with ;)

 fetch email,
  fetchmail for console

 read and
  mutt

 and send mail
  some alternates already mentioned above

 using ONLY pop3 or imap,
  pop3 supported everywhere, not sure whether simple smtp's all have it

 is that posible on a modem unix like os such as freebsd ? 
  one of the easiest tasks on all *ix systems

 is posible to set up mutt in order to use only pop3 or imap
 for sending and reciving? 
  see the mutt docs how to set it up

 this is the realation i want:
 console   X-windows
 nestcapelynx
 wordperfectvi/ee/pico
 netscape-mail   what goes here?HELP!
  seems to me you mixed these up

 please, I want a person that solve my mail problems,
  If you need someone to do the whole stuff for you hire someone,
  otherwise you will have to read a lot of documentation, try it
  and come back with detailed error messages in case you are stuck.
  We all learned it this way.

-- 
Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutters: insert vowels of last name
headerhunters: no time yet investigating the lastest version ;)

Re: help

[Bob Hall]

On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:33:07PM -0500, Bela Bartok wrote:
 Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize 
 that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES 
 use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY 
 uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla 
 mail but that can be execute without X-windows.
 I dont like to use my local sendmail!!!, i have an offline machine, i 
 just want to connect to internet, on console, execute a program, fetch 
 email , read and send mail using ONLY pop3 or imap, is that posible on a 
 modem unix like os such as freebsd ? is posible to set up mutt in order 
 to use only pop3 or imap for sending and reciving? this is the realation 
 i want:
 console   X-windows
 nestcapelynx
 wordperfectvi/ee/pico
 netscape-mail   what goes here?HELP!
 
 please, I want a person that solve my mail problems,
 thanks alot

Hi,

I read your other e-mails. If I understand correctly, you want a 
simple e-mail client that will handle fetching, reading, writing,
and sending e-mail, and can be set up and configured with a minimum 
of difficulty on FreeBSD.

If I am correct about what you want, then mutt is the wrong choice. 
I installed my first Unix-like system (FreeBSD) about six months 
ago, and getting information on mutt and configuring it was very
frustrating. People who have previous experience configuring MUAs 
on Unix probably find mutt easier to configure than I did. Any 
software that isn't automatically configured for you by the 
package or port is going to be harder to configure on FreeBSD than 
a similar app would be on Windows. 

I think Pine will do what you want, but I'm not sure. I use mutt 
and I've never tried installing Pine on FreeBSD. I don't know if it
is available in the packages that come with FreeBSD. I saw that 
pine4 is in my ports collection. If you don't have FreeBSD 4.4, 
then you will probably want to update your ports before running 
make.

I use ssmtp to move mail from mutt to my ISP's smtp server. It 
offers very little functionality, aside from moving mail when I 
hit the 'y' key in mutt. If that's all you need, then you will find 
ssmtp in the ports collection for FreeBSD. 

Good luck in your efforts, whatever MUA you decide to use.

Bob Hall
-- 
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Bubbles bear no introspection.-Khushhal Khan Khatak

Re: help

[David]

On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:33:07PM -0500, Bela Bartok wrote:

 ... I am looking for a email client that ONLY uses imap or pop3 for
 sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla mail but that can be
 execute without X-windows.

There is no way too 'send' mail via pop3.  I think you might be getting
confused by that a bit.  Even in Netscape, you need to specify an
'outgoing' server.  That is just the way internet email works.  

 I dont like to use my local sendmail!!!

Try setting up exim.  It is pretty easy to setup for offline users.
Mutt relies on an external program to send it's mail to an smtp source.
That external program can be whatever you want.  it doesn't have to be
send mail.

 console   X-windows
 nestcapelynx
 wordperfectvi/ee/pico
 netscape-mail   what goes here?HELP!

To echo the response of another, You might want to look into pine.  Pine
has built-in support for all this stuff.  You can specify an SMTP server
without having to setup exim or sendmail to send for you.  You can setup
a source to retrieve imap mail from.  That seems to be the solution you
are looking for.  

Mutt may not be the mailer for you right now.  I started out on pine, as
it was easier to set up for me at the time.  I switched to mutt though
after I learned more about basic system administration, etc.  You might
feel pine constrictive after a while, then again, you might not. :) That
is why there is more than one mailer out there!  

good luck!

/db

Re: help

[David T-G]

Bela --

...and then Bela Bartok said...
% hi, your letter, beside joke at me, did no solve my problem, you are the 
% tipical person that joke at other's confusion and dont help!, you are 
% the typical person that full mailing lists or wise, deep comments 
% and reflections but dont help!!!. You are the typical open source 
% anti-support guy.!

Since, I presume, you've seen Pat's eloquent response to this absurd
post, why don't you try to explain more clearly what you want to
accomplish.  Let's leave language problems aside for a moment; clearly
enumerate your goals and targets.

If you continue to assume that mail programs use POP3 to send mail, you
will probably be directed to read a large number of technical papers
before posting here again.


Have a nice day.

:-D
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Re: HELP: iso chars display as hex nums....

[Michael Tatge]

Matìj Cepl muttered:
 On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 11:46:00PM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
  On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 07:46:49PM -0400, Mat?j Cepl wrote:
   Check variable ascii_chars and charset in your muuttrc.
  h
  #set ascii_chars
  set charset=iso-8859-1
  is in my .muttrc, butthat's the setting wiht hex codes instead of iso
  chars...
 

check your locals setting.
I use charset=iso-8859-1
LANG=en_US
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LC_COLLATE=en_US
LC_CTYPE=en_US
LC_MESSAGES=en_US
LC_MONETARY=en_US
LC_NUMERIC=en_US
LC_TIME=en_US

HTH,

Michael
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Re: HELP: iso chars display as hex nums....

[Matj Cepl]

On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 11:46:00PM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 07:46:49PM -0400, Mat?j Cepl wrote:
  Check variable ascii_chars and charset in your muuttrc.
 h
 #set ascii_chars
 set charset=iso-8859-1
 is in my .muttrc, butthat's the setting wiht hex codes instead of iso
 chars...

Then I am clueless.

Matej

Re: Help with `par`

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Nate Johnston mutt [21/09/01 14:36 -0500]:
 I call par as 'par 72gqr' in a shell script, and my PARINIT is 
 rTbgqR B=.,?_A_a Q=_s|, which is the reccomended default.
 Does anyone have any par configs they would reccomend?

  map V 0!}par w76

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Re: Help with 'folder format'

[Olaf Schulz]

On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 02:47:24PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote:
 Can anyone help me with setting up my 'set folder_format' setting so
 that it tags folders that have new mail with an 'N. I'm looking for
 something similar to this:
 http://www.linuxbrit.co.uk/mutt/mutt_directory.png. The exact setup

 the site). I also added a 'mailboxes' entry to my .muttrc file. Here's
 
 set folder_format=%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f
 or this one
 set folder_format=%N %8s bytes - %d %f
 
Do you have any biff-like software running?
Mutt documentation says:
 3.11 Defining mailboxes which receive mail
...
 Note: new mail is detected by comparing the last modification time to the last
 access time. Utilities like biff or frm or any other program which accesses
 the mailbox might cause Mutt to never detect new mail for that mailbox if they
 do not properly reset the access time. Backup tools are another common reason
 for updated access times. 

try to get a console-login without such tools,
or try to compare access and modification times with 
ls -lc mail_folder_file   (status modification time)
ls -lu mail_folder_file   (access time)
ls -l  mail_folder_file   (modification time)
when thy contain either new mail or not.
You may additionally always use --full-times for testing with `ls`.

hope that helps
Olaf

Re: Help with 'folder format'

[Hall Stevenson]

* Olaf Schulz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010902 17:30]:
 On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 02:47:24PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote:
  Can anyone help me with setting up my 'set folder_format'
  setting so that it tags folders that have new mail with
  an 'N. I'm looking for something similar to this:
  http://www.linuxbrit.co.uk/mutt/mutt_directory.png. The exact setup

  the site). I also added a 'mailboxes' entry to my .muttrc file.
  Here's
 
  set folder_format=%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f or this one set
  folder_format=%N %8s bytes - %d %f
 
 Do you have any biff-like software running?

The only thing possibly similar is gnome's 'Mail check Applet. I have
no problem turning it off for testing purposes. There... done.

Regards
Hall

Re: Help with 'folder format'

[Olaf Schulz]

On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 06:25:33PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote:
 * Olaf Schulz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010902 17:30]:
  Do you have any biff-like software running?
 
 The only thing possibly similar is gnome's 'Mail check Applet. I have
 no problem turning it off for testing purposes. There... done.
and received new mail after that?

Hi hall,
I played a little bit around with the different dates.
heres's a small (bash) shell function which will display all three dates/times
of a file: mtime, ctime, atime
--snip
ftimes () 
{ 
echo -n ct:  ;
ls --color=auto -lc --full-time $@;
echo -n mod: ;
ls --color=auto -l --full-time $@;
echo -n acc: ;
ls --color=auto -lu --full-time $@
}
--snap
to use it, type it or source it with .
I observed 3 different relations between these three times in my
/var/spool/mail/olaf
(bigger times are meant to be later)
no new mail, modified by user (with mutt): ctime   atime  mtime
new mail, unread  N: ctime = mtime  atime
old unread mail(mails with O in folder): ctime =  atime  mtime

write a new mail to yourself (without mutt,
use simply the mail command, watch the state of your mailbox,
say every 20 seconds beforee and after doing this, up to 5 minutes.

have a look at your process list,
(even that of other users: ps xau)
to exclude any other access than mutt.

so if a folder in my setup has new mail, with the shell function above
all times must be shown in descending order - then should the folder
be displayed as New by mutt.

I don't use a folder_format variable in my .muttrc so mutt uses its default:
%2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f 
(according to manual), it works as well when I include the above 
into my .muttrc.

BTW either your time zone setting is incorect (-0500 instead of -0400)
or your system clock is an hour ahead.


 Regards
Olaf

Re: help with directory browser...

[Ankit Mohan]

* Chris Gentle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14:41 31/07/01]:
 Lets say I start mutt with the '-y' option to get a list of mailboxes
 which contain new mail.  Then I press RETURN and enter a mailbox to
 read the messages.  What's the easiest way to get back to the
 directory browser?  Pressing c-TAB-TAB seems to do it but that seems a
 bit clumsy.  If I press 'q' it does exactly what the manual says it
 will do, it quits.  It seems like 'q' is behaving inconsistently.
 When you view a message in the pager 'q' takes you back to the index,
 sort of backing you out.  When called with -y shouldn't 'q' back you
 back out all the way to the directory browser?

you can do what i have done. you can bind a key ('I' in my case) to the
directory index. this can be done al follows :

macro index I c?\t
macro pager I c?\t

alternatively, i think you could bind the 'q' in the index to do the same
thing. 

but then you will face a problem of quitting since no key will be bound to
quit. you could perhaps bind the 'q' in the browser to quit, but i am not too
sure it would be the right thing to do...


 
 -- 
 
 Chris

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Re: help with directory browser...

[Chris Gentle]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:52:48PM +0530, Ankit Mohan wrote:
 you can do what i have done. you can bind a key ('I' in my case) to the
 directory index. this can be done al follows :

 macro index I c?\t
 macro pager I c?\t

That works.  Thanks.

-- 

Chris

Re: Help...I forgot...

[Lars Hecking]

Scott Davis writes:
 Please forgive my short memory.
 
 I know when you compose a message in mutt, and you are at the final screen
 preparing to send, you can change the From: line with CTRL something
 or ALT something.   I just forgot.  Thanks in advance,

 Close, but no cigar ;-)

 Pressing ? in the send menu gives you, among other things,

Escf  edit-from  edit the from field

Re: Help - domain does not exist

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Rodrigo Vega Fonseca proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 with the message:
 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 501 5.1.8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain of
 sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist and my message

put

set envelope_from in your .muttrc and enjoy

ps - see http://www.hserus.net/dlhowto.html (wvdial + sendmail + fetchmail +
procmail + mutt for a dialup)

-- 
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mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI
EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin

Re: Help - domain does not exist

[Mr. Wade]

Rodrigo Vega Fonseca wrote:
snip
 Mutt can send mail to everyone I try but when it comes to my
 own account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) the server returns my mail
 with the message:
 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 501 5.1.8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain of sender 
address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist and my message won't
 post...
 What does that mean? Does it mean that I have to setup a network with a real
 domain just to use Mutt? I don't think so.
snip
 I've already ready the man pages, online help and other resources and modified
 my .muttrc file with the parameters:
 
 set hostname=uai.com.br
 set pop_host=pop.uai.com.br
 set pop_user=vvega
 set hdrs #to include my_hdr lines to message headers
 and
 my_hdr From: Rodrigo Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
 Another annoying thing is that every mail I fetch from the server is kept
 there and every time I download the new messages, the old ones come again.
 I need to download the new messages from the server and then delete them.
 Don't really know what's happening...

You might try setting the $envelope_from variable.  That could
help eliminate the error you are receiving from the mailserver.
In ~/.muttrc (or some file sourced by ~/.muttrc):

set envelope_from

Also, to delete messages aff the POP host after downloading them,
set the $pop_delete variable.  In ~/.muttrc (or some file sourced
by ~/.muttrc):

set pop_delete

You might, however, be better served to not use Mutt's mail
retrieval functions and use a mail retrieval utility like
fetchmail instead.  Personally, I find it more convenient and
useful, especially since it has more flexibility and can handle
multiple accounts, (although, with some clever hooks, I guess
Mutt could emulate some of the functionality.)

Good luck!

-- Mr. Wade
 
-- 
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Re: Help, cant send with mutt

[David Rock]

Try using postfix instead of sendmail. The configuration is a lot easier.
http://www.postfix.org

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Re: Help, cant send with mutt

[Dave Murray]

On Mon, 05 Mar 2001, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Dave Murray proclaimed on mutt-users that: 
  I was able to set up the pop3 for my ISP's mail server and receive mail with
  mutt just fine.  Now how do I set up sendmail for smtp to my ISP mail server?
  
 http://www.hserus.net/dlhowto.html

[opps, sent it to Suresh instead of the list the 1st time]

Thank you, I'm still stymied.

1.  I removed and reinstalled sendmail from the .rpm, edited the .mc (best as I
could), still didn't work.

2.  I downloaded the latest tarball and compiled it, still doesn't work (but
showed improvement, I'm becoming less enchanted with rpm with every attempt to
use it).

I can use mutt locally (mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.)  I just can't figure out how to make it use
my ISP's smtp address, and work.  The verbose script says that it is using my
ISP's smtp, but all outgoing mail goes to deadletter :0(  I can read the mail
just fine, pop3 works OK.

This seems to be a sendmail configuration problem, as opposed to a mutt
problem.  Any suggestions on where to go for help with this?

Regards and peace,
Dave

Re: Help, cant send with mutt

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Barry Mitchelson proclaimed on mutt-users that: 
 I recently discovered a little script called install-sendmail, which helped
 me set up sendmail for use with mutt in a few minutes.
 
 That's Donncha O'Caoimh's script which can be found at http://cork.linux.ie

 you can download it from :
 http://members.nbci.com/xeer/index.html
 
-s

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EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin

Re: Help, cant send with mutt

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Dave Murray proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 Thanks for the help.  After lot's of stuff.  Fixed DNS, ran install-sendmail
 script, ... I've got it to where when I send this, it won't actualy go.
 Repeat, gets same result, then repeat again gives [  OK  ][  OK  ]
 Then the mail gets sent!
 I'm getting close, any ideas?
 
 Something flaky with your sendmail install / the system's under very high
 memory load because of something.  Reinstall sendmail (preferably compiling
 it).  

 And next time, use
 # kill -HUP `head -n1 /var/run/sendmail.pid` 
 to restart sendmail.
 
 [tip thanks to Per Hadeland on comp.mail.sendmail]

-s

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Re: Help, cant send with mutt

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Dave Murray proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 I was able to set up the pop3 for my ISP's mail server and receive mail with
 mutt just fine.  Now how do I set up sendmail for smtp to my ISP mail server?
 
http://www.hserus.net/dlhowto.html

-s

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EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin

Re: help me unsubscribe

[Steve Kennedy]

On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 07:02:04PM +, Glyn Millington wrote:

 Hello!  How do I get off this list?  Can't find instructions anwhere!

send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with

unsubscribe

in the body of the message

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Re: Help with 'alternates' setting and regexes

[Jimmy Kaplowitz]

Thank you very much; this worked perfectly. I actually put a ^( in front and
a )$ at the end so that it would match only those email addresses, and I have
a working alternates setting.

Thanks again.

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 06:44:13PM +0100, Michael Tatge wrote:
 Jimmy Kaplowitz muttered:
  I'm having trouble getting the 'alternates' variable setting to
  recognize who I am I use the following email addresses:
  
  Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Landas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  I have tried doing:
  
  set alternates="^(Jimmy Kaplowitz 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])|Landas [EMAIL PROTECTED])$"
  
  But it doesn't recognize me. no success.
 
 Leave out the realname part. $alternates only matches your email, not
 your name.
 alternates="[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 should work.
 
  set alternates="(Jimmy|Landas)"
  
  it recognizes me fine, but that is a little vague for my tastes.
 
 That is, because jimmy and landas are parts of the addresses you use.
 alternates is _not_ casesensitive.
 
 HTH,
 
 Michael
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Re: Help with 'alternates' setting and regexes

[Michael Tatge]

Jimmy Kaplowitz muttered:
 I'm having trouble getting the 'alternates' variable setting to
 recognize who I am I use the following email addresses:
 
 Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Landas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I have tried doing:
 
 set alternates="^(Jimmy Kaplowitz 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])|Landas [EMAIL PROTECTED])$"
 
 But it doesn't recognize me. no success.

Leave out the realname part. $alternates only matches your email, not
your name.
alternates="[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
should work.

 set alternates="(Jimmy|Landas)"
 
 it recognizes me fine, but that is a little vague for my tastes.

That is, because jimmy and landas are parts of the addresses you use.
alternates is _not_ casesensitive.

HTH,

Michael
-- 
"We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds."
(Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amterdam
Linux Symposium)

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Re: help

[Gary Johnson]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:54:13PM -0500, George Quaweay wrote:
 Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
 Im user Mutt for my email editor.
 I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
 what do you recommend ?

Welcome!  I think you'll really enjoy using mutt, and Linux, too.

To start with, mutt is a mailer, otherwise known as a mail user agent
(MUA) or an e-mail client.  It is not an editor.  That distinction
sometimes confuses people at first.  To learn about mutt,

-  Read the manual.
-  Use the help screens.
-  Follow this list.
-  Follow the comp.mail.mutt newsgroup.
-  Look at http://www.mutt.org/.

The web site has links to a number of resources that might be helpful,
especially:

-  Articles in the press
-  Mutt FAQ
-  Sample configuration files

Reading the manual is good, but it's difficult to absorb everything in
it.  It can also be difficult to distinguish the important, often-used
features from the more esoteric ones, and the _implications_ of various
features are not always obvious, at least to me.  I've learned the most
from reading this list, trying out features that are discussed here,
then reading the relevant parts of the manual to find out more.

Regards,
Gary

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 | Spokane, Washington, USA

Re: help

[Luke Ravitch]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:54:13PM -0500, George Quaweay wrote:
 Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
 Im user Mutt for my email editor.
 I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
 what do you recommend ?

RTFM ;-)

http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/

Seriously, though, if you want to learn _as much as possible_, this is
the way to go.  In addition to reading the manual, of course, you
should play around with the program.  Then, if you get stuck on
something that you can't find in the manual, pop a question to the
list.

-- 
Luke

Re: help

[Norbert Lieckfeldt]

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, George Quaweay wrote:

 Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
 Im user Mutt for my email editor.
 I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
 what do you recommend ?

open a terminal and type 'man mutt' [without the quotation marks], or go
to www.mutt.org for a good start.

N.
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Re: help

[Douglas L . Potts]

Quoting Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[--- Original request snipped ---]
 
 To start with, mutt is a mailer, otherwise known as a mail user agent
 (MUA) or an e-mail client.  It is not an editor.  That distinction
 sometimes confuses people at first.  To learn about mutt,
 
 -  Read the manual.
 -  Use the help screens.
 -  Follow this list.
 -  Follow the comp.mail.mutt newsgroup.
 -  Look at http://www.mutt.org/.
 
 The web site has links to a number of resources that might be helpful,
 especially:
 
 -  Articles in the press
 -  Mutt FAQ
 -  Sample configuration files
 
 Reading the manual is good, but it's difficult to absorb everything in
 it.  It can also be difficult to distinguish the important, often-used
 features from the more esoteric ones, and the _implications_ of various
 features are not always obvious, at least to me.  I've learned the most
 from reading this list, trying out features that are discussed here,
 then reading the relevant parts of the manual to find out more.
Well said!  It is all to easy to tell people to RTFM, and so forth
(which is by all means correct, but not the whole picture), but you've
definitely given a good combination of references.

-Doug

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Re: help

[Charles Curley]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:54:13PM -0500, George Quaweay muttered:
 Im new to the Linux and to the Unix world for that matter.
 Im user Mutt for my email editor.
 I would like to learn as much as possible about this editor.
 what do you recommend ?

Hmmm, since he wouldn't know what he was getting into :-), this guy would
make an excellent volunteer to the Mutt Newbie Manual, or as much of it as
exists so far. Anyone care to inflict it upon him?

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Re: help

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Gary Johnson proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 -  Read the manual.
 -  Use the help screens.
 -  Follow this list.
 -  Follow the comp.mail.mutt newsgroup.
 -  Look at http://www.mutt.org/.
 
 Plus, the mutt-newbie faq at http://mutt-newbie.sourceforge.net
 There isn't much there - so contributions (howtos and such) are welcome.
 
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Re: help

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 Hmmm, since he wouldn't know what he was getting into :-), this guy would
 make an excellent volunteer to the Mutt Newbie Manual, or as much of it as
^
 exists so far. Anyone care to inflict it upon him?
 
 s/volunteer/guinea\ pig/ ;)
 It's at http://mutt-newbie.sourceforge.net ...
 
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Re: help: high bit chars turned to '?'

[Josh Huber]

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:02:57PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
 Sorry I can't help, but I get this too on occasion and would love to
 fix it.  Last time I got it I asked my friend what he did with the
 email he sent and he said he used Word as the editor for Outlook.
 Double wammy, eh?

*ouch*

What I ended up doing was using a utf-8 xterm, and running mutt with
set charset=utf-8.

This shows all foreign characters, including Japanese ones, but every
once in a while I get email that shows up incorrectly.  Of course, now
that I'm talking about it, I can't find any messages with this
problem. (even though I _just_ looked at one).

ttyl,

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Re: Help: Start folder

[Gary Johnson]

On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 12:27:52AM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote:

 I just moved over from elm where I could start ina  given folder by
 giving an elm -f foldername command. Now I know you can do that with
 mutt but I thought there might be a cleaner way in .muttrc of giving it
 an opening folder aside from /var/mail:user.

Try putting this in your .muttrc:

set spoolfile=foldername
folder-hook . set spoolfile=$MAIL

This will cause mutt to open foldername when started without any
arguments, but will then reset your spool file name to the usual default
so that "!"  and other commands/names that refer to your system mailbox
will work as expected.

Gary

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Re: Help with a multiline send-hook

[Mikko Hänninen]

Goblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 15 Nov 2000:
 This does not accomplish that. Can someone help?
 
 send-hook '~t ^.*@domain.com$' \
 my_hdr From: User [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
 set signature=~/.sig_domain

If you want to execute multiple commands, you must put a ; in between
them.  Also, you must take care that the ; is handled as a command
separator only when the hook executes, not when the hook is parsed and
added.

I usually have only one command per hook.  If it's just two commands,
I create two identical hooks with differing commands, but any more than
that and I create a separate muttrc-file and set the hook to do a
source-command on that file.


Hope this helps,
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Re: Help with IMAP...

[Bob Bell]

On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 01:12:39AM +0300, Mikko Hnninen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kolbjørn Barmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 14 Aug 2000:
  Is it also possible to name the folders
  with a name/alias/assign/whatever, so that I can tell mutt I want to open the
  "AmigaAmp" folder, instead of '{server}'/var/spool/mail/.kolla/amigaamp ?
 
 No, that's not possible.  You can set your $folder and then use the
 + and = shortcuts, but it works only for a single path (ie. it isn't
 much of a help with multiple IMAP folders).  Folder aliasing besides
 just the $folder functionality would be rather useful with IMAP I
 guess.

Be sure to use tab completion, though, as it may make your life a
little easier.  ! can also be expanded now.

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Re: Help with IMAP...

[David T-G]

Kolla --

...and then Kolbjørn Barmen said...
% Hi, mutt users!

Hello!


% 
% I'm pondering about using mutt instad of pine, but I cannot find out how to

Good for you! :-)


% set up multiple mailfolder on multiple servers using IMAP, it seems I can
% only use 1 folder on 1 server? What I want is something along pine's 

[I don't know much about IMAP and] I don't know anything about PINE
(except that I hated it when I saw it :-) but it sounds like you're
defining mailboxes in which to look for new mail, right?


% 
% incoming-folders="InBox" {imapserver1}/var/spool/mail/user, 
%  "X-list" {imapserver1}/var/spool/mail/.user/folder-X, 
%  "Y-list" {imapserver1}/var/spool/mail/.user/folder-Y, 
%  "At work" {imapserver2}/var/spool/workuser, 
%  "Somewhere" {imapserver3}/var/spool/luser
% 
% Get it? 

I think so...


% Multiple incoming folders spread out on different servers, with different 
% usernames and locations for each. And ofcourse with pine, one can also
% transfer mails between the folders, even when located on different machines.

Check out the mailboxes setting (3.11 in the manual) and try something
like

  mailboxes '{imap1}'/var/spool/mail/user '{imap2}/var/spool/workuser' ...


% 
% Hope it can be done, and if not, consider this a request for new feature! :)

Let us know if this works for you for starters.


% 
% -- kolla
% 


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Re: Help with IMAP...

[Kolbjørn Barmen]

On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 10:51:47AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 
 % 
 % incoming-folders="InBox" {imapserver1}/var/spool/mail/user, 
 %  "X-list" {imapserver1}/var/spool/mail/.user/folder-X, 
 %  "Y-list" {imapserver1}/var/spool/mail/.user/folder-Y, 
 %  "At work" {imapserver2}/var/spool/workuser, 
 %  "Somewhere" {imapserver3}/var/spool/luser
 % 
 % Get it? 
 % Multiple incoming folders spread out on different servers, with different 
 % usernames and locations for each. And ofcourse with pine, one can also
 % transfer mails between the folders, even when located on different machines.
 
 Check out the mailboxes setting (3.11 in the manual) and try something
 like
 
   mailboxes '{imap1}'/var/spool/mail/user '{imap2}/var/spool/workuser' ...

OK, singlequotes got it going... allthough not quite as you describe it:

mailboxes '{imap1}'/var/spool/mail/user
mailboxes '{imap1}'/var/spool/mail/somefolder
mailboxes '{imap2}'/var/spool/mail/luser

ets works.

(Oh, and I suddenly discovered there was a man muttrc, doh! :) )

 % Hope it can be done, and if not, consider this a request for new feature! :)
 
 Let us know if this works for you for starters.

Well, it does, sort of. :)

I now press ^X^F (and some other), and I can type in what folder I want to see,

I assume there is some way to list all the folders set up in .muttrc (why else
have them?) and also some way to let mutt scan through them one by one for new
mail? (As in.. you guessed it.. pine.)  Is it also possible to name the folders
with a name/alias/assign/whatever, so that I can tell mutt I want to open the
"AmigaAmp" folder, instead of '{server}'/var/spool/mail/.kolla/amigaamp ?

OK, I'll read the man pages for muttrc some more :)

-- kolla

Re: Help with IMAP...

[Mikko Hänninen]

Kolbjørn Barmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 14 Aug 2000:
 OK, singlequotes got it going... allthough not quite as you describe it:
 
 mailboxes '{imap1}'/var/spool/mail/user

That's weird.

 I assume there is some way to list all the folders set up in .muttrc (why else
 have them?)

Either "mutt -y" (from the command line) or
c(hange-folder), tab, tab
or
c(change-folder), "?", tab

Pressing tab when in the file/directory browser brings up the incoming
mailboxes view.

 and also some way to let mutt scan through them one by one for new
 mail?

Nope, not that I know of.  When you press c for change-folder, there's
a default prompt which is the first folder defined in your mailboxes
that has new mail.  So center should take you to the next new
message...  But you can't unfortunately macro it into a single key.

 Is it also possible to name the folders
 with a name/alias/assign/whatever, so that I can tell mutt I want to open the
 "AmigaAmp" folder, instead of '{server}'/var/spool/mail/.kolla/amigaamp ?

No, that's not possible.  You can set your $folder and then use the
+ and = shortcuts, but it works only for a single path (ie. it isn't
much of a help with multiple IMAP folders).  Folder aliasing besides
just the $folder functionality would be rather useful with IMAP I
guess.

 OK, I'll read the man pages for muttrc some more :)

That's a very good idea. :-)  After that, go read the manual. :-)


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Re: Help! IMAP!/Mailbox Vunarable

[Erik van der Meulen]

I have tried to do the same:

 mailboxes {mail.avondel.nl}foo etc

Now I get an error:

  Mailbox vunarable must have 1777 protection

If I do a chmod 1777 on ~/mail, (I think its open to the world) the
message does not go away.
Any ideas?

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Re: Help! IMAP!/Mailbox Vunarable

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

On 07/07/00 07:57 +0200, Erik van der Meulen typed: 

I have tried to do the same:
 mailboxes {mail.avondel.nl}foo etc


Now I get an error:

  Mailbox vunarable must have 1777 protection

If I do a chmod 1777 on ~/mail, (I think its open to the world) the
message does not go away.
Any ideas?

Not ~/mail for $DEITY's sake.  Make /var/spool/mail (only the directory)
1777.  /var/spool/mail/joe_user should not be 1777 of course - leave them
alone ;)

The newer versions of mutt and pine are clued enough to bitch about it -
and the newer version of linuxconf (which I was ass enough to install) is
stupid enough to try undoing this whenever I reboot my box :(

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Re: Help! IMAP!

[Kai Blin]

On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:57:59PM -0700, Gwendolyn wrote:
 I have (s/mailhost/my mailhost/) in my .muttrc:
 ^^^
What does this stuff mean? I don't claim to understand that! :)
 
 set   folder={mailhost}# directory with all mail folders
 set   spoolfile {mailhost}inbox

mine says:
set spoolfile = {imap.server.example.com}
mailboxes {imap.server.example.com}inbox
mailboxes {imap.server.example.com}foo
mailboxes {imap.server.example.com}bar

try it that way.

Kai

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Re: Help! IMAP!

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Kai Blin proclaimed on mutt-users that:

On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:57:59PM -0700, Gwendolyn wrote:

 I have (s/mailhost/my mailhost/) in my .muttrc:
^^^
   What does this stuff mean? I don't claim to understand that! :)

All she says is that she's replaced all instances of her mailhost in the
text below with just "mailhost" (and is asking you to do the same) :)

 set   folder={mailhost}# directory with all mail folders
 set   spoolfile {mailhost}inbox

mine says:
set spoolfile = {imap.server.example.com}
mailboxes {imap.server.example.com}inbox
mailboxes {imap.server.example.com}foo
mailboxes {imap.server.example.com}bar

Why not do it in a single line?

mailboxes {imap.server} =inbox =foo =bar 

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Re: Help! IMAP!

[Gwendolyn]

Thanks all!!  It's working!

gwen.

Re: Help on save-hook please

[Rino Mardo]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 03:36:56PM +0300 or thereabouts, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 Richard Curnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 30 Jun 2000:
  Is mbox-hook what you're after?
 
 Yes, that's what I meant.  I thought I *knew* there was a way to do it,
 just forgot what it was.  Then got confused by the $mbox explanation
 which doesn't talk about mbox-hook at all..
 

Oops again? :-)

Okay if you read my reply to your first reply I've already discovered, and
using, the mbox-hook to save read messages.  Thought I'd let you know.

Re: Help: avoid download same messages from pop3 sever

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

ching wang proclaimed on mutt-users that:

I am new to mutt, and just started to use it to retrieve mail from a
pop3 account on my ISP. I have trouble figuring out a way to avoid
downloading the same messages whenever I hit shift-g.  I don't have this
problem when using netscape mail: it will not download messages already
in my local mailbox.



Use fetchmail to download mails then ...

and use this in your .fetchmailrc

defaults
forcecr
poll your.pop.server.com with proto pop3
user foo with password *
keep

That is much better than using mutt's pop support

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Re: Help: avoid download same messages from pop3 sever

[Kelly Scroggins]

Quoting Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   ching wang proclaimed on mutt-users that:
   
   I am new to mutt, and just started to use it to retrieve mail from a
   pop3 account on my ISP. I have trouble figuring out a way to avoid
   downloading the same messages whenever I hit shift-g.  I don't have this
   problem when using netscape mail: it will not download messages already
   in my local mailbox.
   
   
Or use this setting in your .muttrc :

set pop_delete

This will delete the messages on your pop server
as you retrieve them.

kelly



   Use fetchmail to download mails then ...
   
   and use this in your .fetchmailrc
   
   defaults
   forcecr
   poll your.pop.server.com with proto pop3
   user foo with password *
   keep
   
   That is much better than using mutt's pop support
   
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Re: Help: avoid download same messages from pop3 sever

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Kelly Scroggins proclaimed on mutt-users that:

Quoting Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   ching wang proclaimed on mutt-users that:

   I am new to mutt, and just started to use it to retrieve mail from a
   pop3 account on my ISP. I have trouble figuring out a way to avoid
   downloading the same messages whenever I hit shift-g.  I don't have this
   problem when using netscape mail: it will not download messages already
   in my local mailbox.

Or use this setting in your .muttrc :
   set pop_delete
This will delete the messages on your pop server
as you retrieve them.

That's not what this guy wants - he wants to download only unread mail.  I
don't think he wants to expunge mails from his pop mailbox after
downloading them.

Something like this.

   defaults
   forcecr
   poll your.pop.server.com with proto pop3
   user foo with password *
   keep

If he wanted to expunge mails from his pop server he'd have to use
"fetchall" instead of "keep" in his .fetchmailrc.

hth
-suresh

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Re: Help: avoid download same messages from pop3 sever

[Michael Tatge]

ching wang muttered:

 I am new to mutt, and just started to use it to retrieve mail from a
 pop3 account on my ISP. I have trouble figuring out a way to avoid
 downloading the same messages whenever I hit shift-g.  I don't have this
 problem when using netscape mail: it will not download messages already
 in my local mailbox.

I don't know if I understand what you are at, but maybe setting
$pop_last could be of help?


HTH,

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Re: Help: avoid download same messages from pop3 sever

[Kelly Scroggins]

Quoting Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Okay, I guess I mis-understood.  Thanks for
clarifiing.

I thought he wanted to only retrieve unread
messages from his pop server.  So deleting the
messages as you retrieve them would only leave the
new messages on the server.  Hmmm.

I didn't realize he wanted to leave them there.
Hadn't ever thought of doing that.  It's an
interesting thought.

How much can you leave on the server before your ISP
complains?  Will your ISP purge the mail box
periodically?

kelly


   Kelly Scroggins proclaimed on mutt-users that:
   
   Quoting Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
  ching wang proclaimed on mutt-users that:
   
  I am new to mutt, and just started to use it to retrieve mail from a
  pop3 account on my ISP. I have trouble figuring out a way to avoid
  downloading the same messages whenever I hit shift-g.  I don't have this
  problem when using netscape mail: it will not download messages already
  in my local mailbox.
   
   Or use this setting in your .muttrc :
   set pop_delete
   This will delete the messages on your pop server
   as you retrieve them.
   
   That's not what this guy wants - he wants to download only unread mail.  I
   don't think he wants to expunge mails from his pop mailbox after
   downloading them.
   
   Something like this.
   
  defaults
  forcecr
  poll your.pop.server.com with proto pop3
  user foo with password *
  keep
   
   If he wanted to expunge mails from his pop server he'd have to use
   "fetchall" instead of "keep" in his .fetchmailrc.
   
   hth
   -suresh
   
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