Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Shoot, I was hoping that wouldn't be necessary... Well after doing the compression test and checking the spark a new problem has developed. When I tried to start after those tests the bike began to backfire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/D9QNGmGVwUgJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
So the backfiring is not an issue. I'm an idiot. Checked the ignition timing on cyl1 was spot on. Decided to check the regularity of ignition on the other cylinders. 2 and 3 appear to have intermittent drops in spark. Going to swap the coils to see if it switches. That's a pricey part... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/MS5Q9R0jBqEJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
check with jacks cycle and salvage in sanford fl, i got a set of coils for my goldwing for $50... they will ship or i can pick up localy and ship for you On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:41 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: So the backfiring is not an issue. I'm an idiot. Checked the ignition timing on cyl1 was spot on. Decided to check the regularity of ignition on the other cylinders. 2 and 3 appear to have intermittent drops in spark. Going to swap the coils to see if it switches. That's a pricey part... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/MS5Q9R0jBqEJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
I'll check them out. Thanks After I switched the coils: running problem persists but the timing light showed regular firing for all 4 cylinders. I guess I'll switch back and retest. Decided just for the hell of it to check compression again. All cylinders are pushing 120psi which as far as I know should be plenty to run. I'm stumped here. I was supposed to be riding this machine to Texas here in 2 days, I really hope I can resolve this by then. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/s8iR7SfTg6sJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Well if this last hot reading of the compression is right I'll just clean the carbs again when I've got the rest pulled off I guess. Wanted to retest the compression since 120 is a little low and, even though it should run, I was suspicious. Drove for 10 min then came back and threw the tester on again. Cyls 1, 3, 4 were still at 120. Cyl 2 was harldy pushing 100psi. The manual says 171+/-28 psi is the spec. Should I check the valves or rings? Clean the carbs 1 more time before I go there maybe? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/v8IuYHve50gJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
It is sounding like Carb sync. Little screw between carbs that has to be within 1/8 turn of exact. That gives hesitation big time. I waited a long time before correcting mine but once done it was excellent. Be sure no boot leaks first though. On Jul 27, 2012 8:57 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: Well if this last hot reading of the compression is right I'll just clean the carbs again when I've got the rest pulled off I guess. Wanted to retest the compression since 120 is a little low and, even though it should run, I was suspicious. Drove for 10 min then came back and threw the tester on again. Cyls 1, 3, 4 were still at 120. Cyl 2 was harldy pushing 100psi. The manual says 171+/-28 psi is the spec. Should I check the valves or rings? Clean the carbs 1 more time before I go there maybe? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/v8IuYHve50gJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Well that would be way better than cracking it open. Any links to a decent cheap 4 cyl vacuum gauge? Can't find one anywhere local... Or if I shop it, what would be a fair price range for getting it done? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/xp9pSzsCP1cJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
I live in the 4th largest city in the US and couldn't find a sync tool locally. 8 had to order one off of amazon. Plenty of videos on YouTube about how to use them. -Kyle On Jul 27, 2012 9:39 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: Well that would be way better than cracking it open. Any links to a decent cheap 4 cyl vacuum gauge? Can't find one anywhere local... Or if I shop it, what would be a fair price range for getting it done? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/xp9pSzsCP1cJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Just made a post about this, but here is a model better suited to our bikes (as opposed to cars) http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/edelbrock-uni-syn-4027/?utm_source=googlepeplautm_medium=adwordutm_content=plagclid=CMTNrqe1u7ECFUS4KgodM3QAFA On Jul 27, 2012, at 22:00 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: I live in the 4th largest city in the US and couldn't find a sync tool locally. 8 had to order one off of amazon. Plenty of videos on YouTube about how to use them. -Kyle On Jul 27, 2012 9:39 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: Well that would be way better than cracking it open. Any links to a decent cheap 4 cyl vacuum gauge? Can't find one anywhere local... Or if I shop it, what would be a fair price range for getting it done? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/xp9pSzsCP1cJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Make sure the battery is good. We have seen plenty of weak batteries cause poor running conditions. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:48:50 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas? I'll check them out. Thanks After I switched the coils: running problem persists but the timing light showed regular firing for all 4 cylinders. I guess I'll switch back and retest. Decided just for the hell of it to check compression again. All cylinders are pushing 120psi which as far as I know should be plenty to run. I'm stumped here. I was supposed to be riding this machine to Texas here in 2 days, I really hope I can resolve this by then. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/s8iR7SfTg6sJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Sounds like coils to me ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: 7/25/2012 7:26 pm To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas? Ran some through. Let it sit. Then ran the rest of a can of sea foam for 60 miles. No improvement. The problem gets worse as the engine gets up to temperature The engine hesitates and wants to die below 3 to 3.5k rpm. Holding the throttle steady, it will slowly and roughly pick up. Then when it hits that range it will jump as if it's now catching spark. Occasionally on the ride I'd get a poor response in higher rpm but I figured that was just the sea foam making things a bit rougher. I've talked to my brother he had pulled the carbs and had them soaked in simple green. Otherwise he says all he's done is replace the battery and spark plugs. I'm pulling the carbs here as soon as I eat, so I'll post back with what I see. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/xJGElq88k0cJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Got everything thing in the carbs cleaned. Reassembled. Everything slides smooth. Put them back in and the low rpm hesitation and cutting out is still a problem. No improvement. Doing a compression test now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/Ttr85_XWaIEJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Compression is good. Spark is there. Checking the timing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/eyTNJNTjjW8J. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
If you had crystallized gunk in the carbs, you probably will need to split the rack and soak them in chem dip. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:07:40 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas? Got everything thing in the carbs cleaned. Reassembled. Everything slides smooth. Put them back in and the low rpm hesitation and cutting out is still a problem. No improvement. Doing a compression test now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/Ttr85_XWaIEJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Carbs, carbs...it's almost always carbs, especially if it's been sitting up any time at all. Clean 'em, then clean 'em again before you start messin' around with any other fix. Gas turns to syrup. Syrup clogs passageways. No gas flows. Same with rvs, outboard motors, lawn motors, chain saws, weed trimmers...any motor that's used infrequently, then stored for awhile. On Jul 24, 3:41 pm, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: 1984 700 s Issue: try to pull away, and motor sputters at low rpm. No response or power and stalling until above 3k rpm. Not an issue when the bike first starts. Carbs have recently been cleaned(by my brother not me, maybe he changed something) He also afterwards took it to a shop to have a diagnostic run but they were useless and just said clean the carbs. Maybe electrical? Any ideas on what to look for or anyone had this before? Just looking for ideas in the next few days before I get to the bike and start checking it out myself -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
For Maintenance with Seafoam I believe the recommended dosage is one ounce per gallon mixed directly in with the gas. From personal experience, I suggest putting a fresh tank of gas into the bike, then the correct number of ounces per gallon and going for a long ride to burn as much of the gas in one shot as possible. The only reason I mention this is that if it sits, the Seafoam can settle to the bottom and get sucked into the carbs all at once - which tends to make the engine run poorly, but won't actually cause any harm. I have put an entire can into a 4 gallon tank (four times the maintenance dosage) and run the bike for several miles - and believe me - she was running hot. -Joey On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
If you are fighting a severe clog, a heavy dose and a good hard run can do wonders. Like Joey, I've run a whole can in a fresh tank and then flogged the crap out of it to clear up issues. An assisted Italian Tune, if you will. Kurt On Jul 25, 2012 3:51 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote: For Maintenance with Seafoam I believe the recommended dosage is one ounce per gallon mixed directly in with the gas. From personal experience, I suggest putting a fresh tank of gas into the bike, then the correct number of ounces per gallon and going for a long ride to burn as much of the gas in one shot as possible. The only reason I mention this is that if it sits, the Seafoam can settle to the bottom and get sucked into the carbs all at once - which tends to make the engine run poorly, but won't actually cause any harm. I have put an entire can into a 4 gallon tank (four times the maintenance dosage) and run the bike for several miles - and believe me - she was running hot. -Joey On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Fill the tank add Seafoam to the tank. That is what I did. Thank you, Ross M. Jamison Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:47 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
What you have mentioned about Seafoam settling, I have not experienced. I ride every day I can. If I remember correctly, I ran a tank of regular gas between treatment. I can't remember if I did 1/2 a can per tank or the whole can. Like I said, my bike runs so good you'd think it was twins! Thank you, Ross M. Jamison Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote: For Maintenance with Seafoam I believe the recommended dosage is one ounce per gallon mixed directly in with the gas. From personal experience, I suggest putting a fresh tank of gas into the bike, then the correct number of ounces per gallon and going for a long ride to burn as much of the gas in one shot as possible. The only reason I mention this is that if it sits, the Seafoam can settle to the bottom and get sucked into the carbs all at once - which tends to make the engine run poorly, but won't actually cause any harm. I have put an entire can into a 4 gallon tank (four times the maintenance dosage) and run the bike for several miles - and believe me - she was running hot. -Joey On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
The other think to consider, is that when your riding the tank is sloshing, so it keeps the Seafoam in suspension. I really don't think it settles. Thank you, Ross M. Jamison Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: If you are fighting a severe clog, a heavy dose and a good hard run can do wonders. Like Joey, I've run a whole can in a fresh tank and then flogged the crap out of it to clear up issues. An assisted Italian Tune, if you will. Kurt On Jul 25, 2012 3:51 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote: For Maintenance with Seafoam I believe the recommended dosage is one ounce per gallon mixed directly in with the gas. From personal experience, I suggest putting a fresh tank of gas into the bike, then the correct number of ounces per gallon and going for a long ride to burn as much of the gas in one shot as possible. The only reason I mention this is that if it sits, the Seafoam can settle to the bottom and get sucked into the carbs all at once - which tends to make the engine run poorly, but won't actually cause any harm. I have put an entire can into a 4 gallon tank (four times the maintenance dosage) and run the bike for several miles - and believe me - she was running hot. -Joey On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:47:09 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas? When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
I just split a can over 3 fill ups. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:47:09 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas? When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Ran some through. Let it sit. Then ran the rest of a can of sea foam for 60 miles. No improvement. The problem gets worse as the engine gets up to temperature The engine hesitates and wants to die below 3 to 3.5k rpm. Holding the throttle steady, it will slowly and roughly pick up. Then when it hits that range it will jump as if it's now catching spark. Occasionally on the ride I'd get a poor response in higher rpm but I figured that was just the sea foam making things a bit rougher. I've talked to my brother he had pulled the carbs and had them soaked in simple green. Otherwise he says all he's done is replace the battery and spark plugs. I'm pulling the carbs here as soon as I eat, so I'll post back with what I see. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/xJGElq88k0cJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
Pulled the carbs. Cleaned all the jets. The choke was almost locked shut because of that cleaner my brother used. It had crystals in it which jammed the bystarter valve... Took half a can of cleaner through there to even be able to pull them from their seats. Crystal buildup on the springs, in the valve seat, EVERYwhere. Got that cleaned up and the choke reassembled, slides smooth now. Vacuum piston isn't sliding perfectly smoothly on 2 and 4 they're getting caught at the top of the slide. Would these be the causes of my issue? Leaving the carbs off for the night to finish tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/sdpd8_CU4LAJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
YES. YES YES YES. Sincerely, The group. -Kurt On Jul 25, 2012 11:06 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: Pulled the carbs. Cleaned all the jets. The choke was almost locked shut because of that cleaner my brother used. It had crystals in it which jammed the bystarter valve... Took half a can of cleaner through there to even be able to pull them from their seats. Crystal buildup on the springs, in the valve seat, EVERYwhere. Got that cleaned up and the choke reassembled, slides smooth now. Vacuum piston isn't sliding perfectly smoothly on 2 and 4 they're getting caught at the top of the slide. Would these be the causes of my issue? Leaving the carbs off for the night to finish tomorrow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/sdpd8_CU4LAJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?
What you've done is okay for a mild case of VOC (volatile organic compound) evaporation. That's when gas is just beginning to turn to syrup or varnish. That's when it's most responsive to the dissolving effects of Seafoam (lighter fluid, alcohol and light machine oil) or the like. However, when gas has degraded beyond the point of no return, there is no substitute for physical, mechanical cleaning with more drastic methods (soaking, carb cleaner, compressed air, brushes, wires). There's no easy magical, chemical remedy. Just plain ol' fashioned grunt work. On Jul 25, 5:38 pm, Ross M. Jamison ross.m.jami...@earthlink.net wrote: Fill the tank add Seafoam to the tank. That is what I did. Thank you, Ross M. Jamison Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:47 PM, E.T. et.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When doing the seafoam treatment, should I just add it to the gas, or should I go directly into the hose? I've read differing things... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/a8hQx_qIsDoJ. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.