RE: Balasan: RE: [obrolan-bandar] INDF Buyback 10 Persen Saham
Wah, pak jt benar2 jenderal sayap kanan ob J Mau ngikut pak, tapi masih nyangkut di bumi hiks...hiks... Ntar aku ambil senapan lagi smoga sesi 2 masih nututi hehehehhe... From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hanny harriman Sent: 30 Nopember 2008 14:51 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Balasan: RE: [obrolan-bandar] INDF Buyback 10 Persen Saham saya daftar pak...
[obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT: Tanya strategi target scalpe
*sobi bandarnya pintar banget, setelah dibuat hijau, besoknya harga langsung dibawa turun dulu pas opening trus closing diangkat sehingga bisa bikin ijo terus, contohnya setelah mengalami penurunan dari 1050 ke 800 pada tanggal 6 november 2008 tiba tiba candlenya ijo panjang dari opening 770 ditarik ke 850, esoknya harga langsung dibawa turun kebawah pas opening langsung loncat harga 780 lalu hari itu dibuat ijo lagi dengan ditutup pada harga 840, kalo mengalami hal seperti ini sebaiknya dibuang saja karena candle ijo digambar bandar, jadi sisakan satu syarat lagi bahwa candle stick harus ijo tapi penutupan hari sebelumnya harus lebih rendah harganya dibandingkan penutupan esoknya. Pada kasus sobi penutupan hari sebelumnya 850 lebih tinggi dibandingkan penutupan esoknya 840 meskipun sama sama candle hijau, tapi kalau hal ini berlangsung lama bisa bisa hrga turun 200 rupiah dalam 20 hari berikutnya. CMIIW* Re: OOT: Tanya strategi target scalpe Posted by: firman hanif [EMAIL PROTECTED] abulfayyadh Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:18 pm (PST) SOBI ijonya banyak tapi kok turun terus Pak? saya masih gak ngerti cara nebak candle besok atau sesi 2 mau ijo apa merah dari chart harian. 2008/11/30 Hanif Mantiq hanif_mantiq@ yahoo.com *gimana kalo yang lain pak de? hanya ini berlaku untuk market yang sangat volatile seperti sekarang ini. modalnya candlestick saja, coba lihat candle stick untuk saham apa saja. entry pas candle stick pertama hijau setelah lama merah. exit pas candle stick berikutnya merah setelah lama hijau. kalo pas entry hijau besoknya merah jual saja rugi tak apa apa kalo besoknya ijo tahan aja terus. nah kalo besoknya ijo lagi tahan aja terus kalo merah langsung jual saja, gambar candle mau ijo atau merah bisa ditebak dari intraday chart. saya yakin banyak yang dapat daging tebel tebel. mudah-mudahan bisa membantu, maaf tidak bisa menunjukan lewat chart. that's what i know untuk preserve capital sambil cari untung, yakin banyak yang punya robot model beginian, dengan modifikasi di sana sini. cmiiw :) *
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader
Pak JT .. Buat yang udah telat take a position senin saham apa ya .. yang masih prospektif Thanks, rgds, eno --- On Sat, 11/29/08, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:01 PM Ahaaah.. .?! Maen uda 11 tahun aja rugi melulu, gimana Nubie ya? Tapi keknya yang baru masuk sekarang malah lebih banyak Cuan nya, soale harganya 'kan dah murah. Apalagi kalo ngikutin Jendral/Suhu Cuan kita... dijamin lebih banyak Cuan daripada loss. So ikutin aja apa kata Mbah, JT, Artomoro9, Elaine.. (segera menyusul clues-nya, ya 'kan?) Dan jangan lupa... kalo uda Cuan banyak, click DONATION OB ya... * * * Yang merasa uda Cuan banyak, boleh donk ngasih 'DONATION' kalo masih belom, ya tenang2 aja dulu dech Eh, ini 'ga ada yang nyuruh loh! Atas kesadaran sendiri. ...he...he. .. 2008/11/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com thx yah pak Jsxtrader moga moga indf nya gak kelamaan diakumulasinya ntar muntah malahan. hehehe.. sekrang mah i mau ikutan komado jsxtrader aja aha cara maennya.. biar banyak cuan.. abis selama ini maen saham udah 11 thn bykan rugi... daripada untungnya.. BILLY investor supermini
Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader
Jangan pernah merasa terlambat Pak, itu akan membuat anda mengambil keputusan yg tergesa-gesa nantinya.., santai aja, kesempatan selalu ada. untuk besok, Jendral Artomoro sudah siap tempur, Pak Halim sdh menabuh genderang perang, kalau digebuk, Insya Allah saya sdh siap 'pasang badan', hehe Kita tunggu apakah ada fatwa dari Pak DE, EL dan yg lainnyan, Terutama perintah panglima tertinggi, Mbah..., I am sure Mbah lagi siapin strategy buat kita-kita. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Eko Nurcahyono [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:50:50 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader Pak JT .. Buat yang udah telat take a position senin saham apa ya .. yang masih prospektif Thanks, rgds, eno --- On Sat, 11/29/08, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:01 PM Ahaaah.. .?! Maen uda 11 tahun aja rugi melulu, gimana Nubie ya? Tapi keknya yang baru masuk sekarang malah lebih banyak Cuan nya, soale harganya 'kan dah murah. Apalagi kalo ngikutin Jendral/Suhu Cuan kita... dijamin lebih banyak Cuan daripada loss. So ikutin aja apa kata Mbah, JT, Artomoro9, Elaine.. (segera menyusul clues-nya, ya 'kan?) Dan jangan lupa... kalo uda Cuan banyak, click DONATION OB ya... * * * Yang merasa uda Cuan banyak, boleh donk ngasih 'DONATION' kalo masih belom, ya tenang2 aja dulu dech Eh, ini 'ga ada yang nyuruh loh! Atas kesadaran sendiri. ...he...he. .. 2008/11/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com thx yah pak Jsxtrader moga moga indf nya gak kelamaan diakumulasinya ntar muntah malahan. hehehe.. sekrang mah i mau ikutan komado jsxtrader aja aha cara maennya.. biar banyak cuan.. abis selama ini maen saham udah 11 thn bykan rugi... daripada untungnya.. BILLY investor supermini
[obrolan-bandar] Re: thx pak jsxtrader - TINS
Menurut saya ada 1 saham yang sangat bagus sekali untuk investor. TINS, naiknya belum terlalu banyak, harga sekarang masih bisa dibilang bottom. BUY at strong support 1030. DISCLAIMER For investor only. Soalnya kalo liat candlenya bikin harami pattern, volumenya juga masih kecil, takutnya kalo buat trader kelamaan nunggu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jangan pernah merasa terlambat Pak, itu akan membuat anda mengambil keputusan yg tergesa-gesa nantinya.., santai aja, kesempatan selalu ada. untuk besok, Jendral Artomoro sudah siap tempur, Pak Halim sdh menabuh genderang perang, kalau digebuk, Insya Allah saya sdh siap 'pasang badan', hehe Kita tunggu apakah ada fatwa dari Pak DE, EL dan yg lainnyan, Terutama perintah panglima tertinggi, Mbah..., I am sure Mbah lagi siapin strategy buat kita-kita. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Eko Nurcahyono [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:50:50 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader Pak JT .. Buat yang udah telat take a position senin saham apa ya .. yang masih prospektif Thanks, rgds, eno --- On Sat, 11/29/08, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:01 PM Ahaaah.. .?! Maen uda 11 tahun aja rugi melulu, gimana Nubie ya? Tapi keknya yang baru masuk sekarang malah lebih banyak Cuan nya, soale harganya 'kan dah murah. Apalagi kalo ngikutin Jendral/Suhu Cuan kita... dijamin lebih banyak Cuan daripada loss. So ikutin aja apa kata Mbah, JT, Artomoro9, Elaine.. (segera menyusul clues-nya, ya 'kan?) Dan jangan lupa... kalo uda Cuan banyak, click DONATION OB ya... * * * Yang merasa uda Cuan banyak, boleh donk ngasih 'DONATION' kalo masih belom, ya tenang2 aja dulu dech Eh, ini 'ga ada yang nyuruh loh! Atas kesadaran sendiri. ...he...he. .. 2008/11/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com thx yah pak Jsxtrader moga moga indf nya gak kelamaan diakumulasinya ntar muntah malahan. hehehe.. sekrang mah i mau ikutan komado jsxtrader aja aha cara maennya.. biar banyak cuan.. abis selama ini maen saham udah 11 thn bykan rugi... daripada untungnya.. BILLY investor supermini
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pak JT: how about Trio macan
*You want news? Expect to see trillions of SHORT positions on the USD. There you have it. ^_^ Like I said before, the money goes to Obama's country, so that makes me more than happy to TAKE it. Now I believe there are many experts here that can explain what the effects are gonna be. That Bujang guy looks smart. He just requested to be added as a friend.. lol.. and I accepted..lololol. Okay enough. Professor Hendra Bujang, what's your opinion, do I make a right move or not? ps: I don't like martial arts. It's kinda.. savage. To artomoro9: blah. Elaine * 2008/11/30 artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Untuk trio macan, si bozz lagi milihin berita yg cocok dari warehouse nya si bozz, sabar dikitlah, cuma kalo jurus TB nya datang suka gak di duga. Dan biasanya sangat cepat sekali. Buat tek tok intraday boleh tuh. Aman kok. Tenang aja, ada pengepul yg siap nampungin. He he he . Salam, artomoro9 (trio macan joget nya bikin melayang) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Itu nyomot dari IPOT Bu., kalau berdasarkan scoring, memang TINS yg paling banyak score positivenya.., apakah itu yg artinya yg terbaik?? Belum tentu.., masih banyak faktor lainnya yg harus dipertimbangkan. Tapi at least dari data comparison tsb, paling tidak kita bisa lihat PAST performance dari saham tsb, relative to temen-temennya., Sekedar buat referensi sih OK, tapi jangan dijadikan sebagai dasar pengambilan keputusan trading. Rgrds, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fifi young Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 21:32 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan Pak JT, Kalo dari 5 itu, TINS score : 10 rank : 1 apakah TINS adalah yang terbaik? Data itu dari IPOT ato RTI ? Thanks. 2008/11/29 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sabar.., kelihatannya masih akumulasi.., I can't discuss more detail, ntar BD ngambek.., cermati aja terus., kalau kuat nyimpen, ikutan aja mungutin di XXX.., hehe ini perbandingan data saham2 mining, sekedar buat referensi. JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rudd haas Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 17:07 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan Pak JT How about trio macan..nih keliatan nya baru PTBA yang udah siap landas TINS dan ANTM belum keliatan gerakan2 nya Untuk Tins dan antm , apa ada kans untuk ikutan PTBA??? --- On Fri, 11/28/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: KLBF dong... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:35 PM Wah sorry Pak, baru kebaca.., nanti deh saya intipin.., barusan sepintas saya liat vol KLBF gede juga ya, cukup menarik, coba nanti saya lihat lagi detailnya. Rasanya sih udah siap-siap jalan, mungkin lagi tunggu antrian.., let see lah. JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of eclaireur Sent: 28 Nopember 2008 16:24 To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: KLBF dong... tolong dikasihin analisa dikit pak, apa perlu dicermati lebih lanjut atau stay away dulu?... tks. the pathfinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:eclaireur%40yahoo.co.ukeclaireur%2540yahoo.co.uk co.uk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1818 - Release Date: 11/28/2008 7:31 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1818 - Release Date: 11/28/2008 7:31 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan
blah artinya apa yaaa? tolong bantu terjemahin dong.. hehehe. ps: kalo gak ada news, ntar ga rame elaine. atau gini deh, buy dulu yg banyak, baru news nya di keluarin, gimana? salam, artomoro9 (dont sell anything) Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want news? Expect to see trillions of SHORT positions on the USD. There you have it. ^_^ Like I said before, the money goes to Obama's country, so that makes me more than happy to TAKE it. Now I believe there are many experts here that can explain what the effects are gonna be. That Bujang guy looks smart. He just requested to be added as a friend.. lol.. and I accepted..lololol. Okay enough. Professor Hendra Bujang, what's your opinion, do I make a right move or not? ps: I don't like martial arts. It's kinda.. savage. To artomoro9: blah. Elaine 2008/11/30 artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Untuk trio macan, si bozz lagi milihin berita yg cocok dari warehouse nya si bozz, sabar dikitlah, cuma kalo jurus TB nya datang suka gak di duga. Dan biasanya sangat cepat sekali. Buat tek tok intraday boleh tuh. Aman kok. Tenang aja, ada pengepul yg siap nampungin. He he he . Salam, artomoro9 (trio macan joget nya bikin melayang) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Itu nyomot dari IPOT Bu., kalau berdasarkan scoring, memang TINS yg paling banyak score positivenya.., apakah itu yg artinya yg terbaik?? Belum tentu.., masih banyak faktor lainnya yg harus dipertimbangkan. Tapi at least dari data comparison tsb, paling tidak kita bisa lihat PAST performance dari saham tsb, relative to temen-temennya., Sekedar buat referensi sih OK, tapi jangan dijadikan sebagai dasar pengambilan keputusan trading. Rgrds, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fifi young Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 21:32 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan Pak JT, Kalo dari 5 itu, TINS score : 10 rank : 1 apakah TINS adalah yang terbaik? Data itu dari IPOT ato RTI ? Thanks. 2008/11/29 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sabar.., kelihatannya masih akumulasi.., I can't discuss more detail, ntar BD ngambek.., cermati aja terus., kalau kuat nyimpen, ikutan aja mungutin di XXX.., hehe ini perbandingan data saham2 mining, sekedar buat referensi. JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rudd haas Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 17:07 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan Pak JT How about trio macan..nih keliatan nya baru PTBA yang udah siap landas TINS dan ANTM belum keliatan gerakan2 nya Untuk Tins dan antm , apa ada kans untuk ikutan PTBA??? --- On Fri, 11/28/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: KLBF dong... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:35 PM Wah sorry Pak, baru kebaca.., nanti deh saya intipin.., barusan sepintas saya liat vol KLBF gede juga ya, cukup menarik, coba nanti saya lihat lagi detailnya. Rasanya sih udah siap-siap jalan, mungkin lagi tunggu antrian.., let see lah. JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of eclaireur Sent: 28 Nopember 2008 16:24 To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: KLBF dong... tolong dikasihin analisa dikit pak, apa perlu dicermati lebih lanjut atau stay away dulu?... tks. the pathfinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:eclaireur%40yahoo.co.uk co.uk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1818 - Release Date: 11/28/2008 7:31 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1818 - Release Date: 11/28/2008 7:31 PM DISCLAIMER ON - Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
[obrolan-bandar] Re:( to JSXTRADER) PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend
OK Boss, untuk menyamakan persepsi pengertian kata sandi sasaran tembak itu dianalogkan dg punya peluru, peluru itu saham yg kita pegang, siap dimuntahkan pada saat yg tepat atau sell atau exit pada feasible price target, apalagi kalau sebelumnya pernah loss, kita targetkan sasaran tembak dg target lebih besar vs previous loss. Kalau resitant range (RR) kondisi dimana pada rentang tertentu misal 6500 - 7000 punya kemungkinan tidak akan ber-lama2 pada posisi tsb dan lower basenya akan jatuh dibawah 6500, akan tetapi kalau sentimen pasar atau respon pasar positif, apalagi ada yg butuh stocks tsb, maka upper resitennya akan menembus melampai yang 7000. Kata sandi lain yg pernah sy posting hari rabu mlm tgl 26/11, agar player yg berani take a risk siap2 jadi pemulung (Jadi Pemulung antara Biru-Merah) kemungkinan (besar) gain besok atau lusa menjadi negatif, maksudnya kalau hari rabu posisi saham yg kita unggulkan gain positif/biru ternyata pd hari kamis berubah jadi 'merah', coba ambil resiko yg sdh diperhitungkan, ya yg merah itu take saja untuk persediaan amunisi berikutnya dan menyiapkan target tembak baru. Ternyata yg diunggulkan hari kamis memang merah, tetapi berubah menjadi biru pada hari jum'at tgl 28 kemaren. Game saham itu kadang2 layaknya main catur. See u in the next sharing.. Regards, Old Soldier JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak, Saya lihat bapak sering pake istilah 'sasaran tembak', maksudnya itu range utk jual apa beli Pak?.., sekedar ingin menyamakan persepsi. Thanks Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 23:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend Terima kasih Pak Ruzli, salam kenal. Wah iseng2 pengen buka obrolan bandar malam ini di kamar setelah capek jalan2 liburan di Ygykrta. Buka internet pakai Indosatm2 unlimmited 100 rb/bln kenceng juga jadi ingat ISAT, ada hubungan IM2 dg Indosat? ISAT ternyata lagi high ya. Share sih bisa aja pak, tetapi ilmu bapak lebih tinggi, saya sih bukan apa2nya, malu2in hehehe. Saya pikir basiknya masih sekitar chart2 yg tidak jauh dari fibinacci, candle stick, volume analysis dan sebagainya. Mungkin saya sendiri lebih suka pakai faktor koreksi angka sendiri terhadap chart maupun value. Bahkan intuisi yg melintas. Pada dasarnya saya males kalkulasi yg rumit, paling liat tren dan chartingnya, tarik garis. Tetapi setiap rumor, sentimen pasar punya nilai koreksi, indikator kemungkinan goreng, angkat-banting yg mungkin sah2 saja ? perlu diberi faktor koreksi dengen rentang nilai tertentu. Itu bisa dicoba pak,lama2 biasa dg koreksi sendiri dan tidak harus terpaku indikator atau trend pada chart standard. Sayapun tidak hebat2 amat, biasa dan low level. Ngak tau senen nanti bisa posting atau sibuk. Regards Old Soldier
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan
*Blah means love. So if you tell your girlfriend 'I love you', and she answers 'blah blah blah', means she loves you very much. Anyway, trio macan? if you're talking about metal sector, then I agree with you. Buy them all, sell only after 500% gain. Yeah, that's more like it. Embah lagi busy hitung BUMI valuation? it's priceless. Months ago, I said this one a bit too often, that I didn't trust the management/owner. And since now it's about to change, I can't help to have some of it. For coal sector, my target is around 300% to 1000% for the next 3-5 years. Not bad at all. Elaine ajak karena Elaine punya. Elaine bilang ke Oentoeng saja, repo owners rugi kalau sell sekarang. Nanti above 1 baru bisa untung besar. Coba discuss untuk restruct debt, it's a common practice in the debt world. Elaine miss Kang Ocoy, titip msg saja untuk average down. lol.. Elaine** * 2008/11/30 artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] blah artinya apa yaaa? tolong bantu terjemahin dong.. hehehe. ps: kalo gak ada news, ntar ga rame elaine. atau gini deh, buy dulu yg banyak, baru news nya di keluarin, gimana? salam, artomoro9 (dont sell anything) *Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: *You want news? Expect to see trillions of SHORT positions on the USD.There you have it. ^_^ Like I said before, the money goes to Obama's country, so that makes me more than happy to TAKE it. Now I believe there are many experts here that can explain what the effects are gonna be. That Bujang guy looks smart. He just requested to be added as a friend.. lol.. and I accepted..lololol. Okay enough. Professor Hendra Bujang, what's your opinion, do I make a right move or not? ps: I don't like martial arts. It's kinda.. savage. To artomoro9: blah. Elaine * 2008/11/30 artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Untuk trio macan, si bozz lagi milihin berita yg cocok dari warehouse nya si bozz, sabar dikitlah, cuma kalo jurus TB nya datang suka gak di duga. Dan biasanya sangat cepat sekali. Buat tek tok intraday boleh tuh. Aman kok. Tenang aja, ada pengepul yg siap nampungin. He he he . Salam, artomoro9 (trio macan joget nya bikin melayang) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Itu nyomot dari IPOT Bu., kalau berdasarkan scoring, memang TINS yg paling banyak score positivenya.., apakah itu yg artinya yg terbaik?? Belum tentu.., masih banyak faktor lainnya yg harus dipertimbangkan. Tapi at least dari data comparison tsb, paling tidak kita bisa lihat PAST performance dari saham tsb, relative to temen-temennya., Sekedar buat referensi sih OK, tapi jangan dijadikan sebagai dasar pengambilan keputusan trading. Rgrds, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fifi young Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 21:32 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan Pak JT, Kalo dari 5 itu, TINS score : 10 rank : 1 apakah TINS adalah yang terbaik? Data itu dari IPOT ato RTI ? Thanks. 2008/11/29 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sabar.., kelihatannya masih akumulasi.., I can't discuss more detail, ntar BD ngambek.., cermati aja terus., kalau kuat nyimpen, ikutan aja mungutin di XXX.., hehe ini perbandingan data saham2 mining, sekedar buat referensi. JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rudd haas Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 17:07 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan Pak JT How about trio macan..nih keliatan nya baru PTBA yang udah siap landas TINS dan ANTM belum keliatan gerakan2 nya Untuk Tins dan antm , apa ada kans untuk ikutan PTBA??? --- On Fri, 11/28/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: KLBF dong... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:35 PM Wah sorry Pak, baru kebaca.., nanti deh saya intipin.., barusan sepintas saya liat vol KLBF gede juga ya, cukup menarik, coba nanti saya lihat lagi detailnya. Rasanya sih udah siap-siap jalan, mungkin lagi tunggu antrian.., let see lah. JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of eclaireur Sent: 28 Nopember 2008 16:24 To: obrolan-bandar@
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan
Pak Art I BLAH U !! kekekekk ayo semua bilang I BLAH U ke Pak Art :) Pada 30 November 2008 19:55, artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: blah artinya apa yaaa? tolong bantu terjemahin dong.. hehehe. ps: kalo gak ada news, ntar ga rame elaine. atau gini deh, buy dulu yg banyak, baru news nya di keluarin, gimana? salam, artomoro9 (dont sell anything) *Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: *You want news? Expect to see trillions of SHORT positions on the USD.There you have it. ^_^ Like I said before, the money goes to Obama's country, so that makes me more than happy to TAKE it. Now I believe there are many experts here that can explain what the effects are gonna be. That Bujang guy looks smart. He just requested to be added as a friend.. lol.. and I accepted..lololol. Okay enough. Professor Hendra Bujang, what's your opinion, do I make a right move or not? ps: I don't like martial arts. It's kinda.. savage. To artomoro9: blah. Elaine * 2008/11/30 artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Untuk trio macan, si bozz lagi milihin berita yg cocok dari warehouse nya si bozz, sabar dikitlah, cuma kalo jurus TB nya datang suka gak di duga. Dan biasanya sangat cepat sekali. Buat tek tok intraday boleh tuh. Aman kok. Tenang aja, ada pengepul yg siap nampungin. He he he . Salam, artomoro9 (trio macan joget nya bikin melayang) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Itu nyomot dari IPOT Bu., kalau berdasarkan scoring, memang TINS yg paling banyak score positivenya.., apakah itu yg artinya yg terbaik?? Belum tentu.., masih banyak faktor lainnya yg harus dipertimbangkan. Tapi at least dari data comparison tsb, paling tidak kita bisa lihat PAST performance dari saham tsb, relative to temen-temennya., Sekedar buat referensi sih OK, tapi jangan dijadikan sebagai dasar pengambilan keputusan trading. Rgrds, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fifi young Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 21:32 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan Pak JT, Kalo dari 5 itu, TINS score : 10 rank : 1 apakah TINS adalah yang terbaik? Data itu dari IPOT ato RTI ? Thanks. 2008/11/29 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sabar.., kelihatannya masih akumulasi.., I can't discuss more detail, ntar BD ngambek.., cermati aja terus., kalau kuat nyimpen, ikutan aja mungutin di XXX.., hehe ini perbandingan data saham2 mining, sekedar buat referensi. JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rudd haas Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 17:07 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan Pak JT How about trio macan..nih keliatan nya baru PTBA yang udah siap landas TINS dan ANTM belum keliatan gerakan2 nya Untuk Tins dan antm , apa ada kans untuk ikutan PTBA??? --- On Fri, 11/28/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: KLBF dong... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:35 PM Wah sorry Pak, baru kebaca.., nanti deh saya intipin.., barusan sepintas saya liat vol KLBF gede juga ya, cukup menarik, coba nanti saya lihat lagi detailnya. Rasanya sih udah siap-siap jalan, mungkin lagi tunggu antrian.., let see lah. JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of eclaireur Sent: 28 Nopember 2008 16:24 To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: KLBF dong... tolong dikasihin analisa dikit pak, apa perlu dicermati lebih lanjut atau stay away dulu?... tks. the pathfinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:eclaireur%40yahoo.co.ukeclaireur%2540yahoo.co.uk co.uk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1818 - Release Date: 11/28/2008 7:31 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1818 - Release Date: 11/28/2008 7:31 PM DISCLAIMER ON -- Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda!
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re:( to JSXTRADER) PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend
IC, hampir kemarin ane tembak (buy) di 6500-7000.., hehehe, maklum Pak, biasa pake istilah sebaliknya.., tembak=BUY.., masuk sasaran tembak=masuk area BUY, dst..., untung saya nanya dulu, kalau ngga, kita bisa main tembak-tembakan haha.. BTW, ada istilah baru tuh di OB BLAH.. hehe Regards, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg Sent: 30 Nopember 2008 20:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re:( to JSXTRADER) PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend OK Boss, untuk menyamakan persepsi pengertian kata sandi sasaran tembak itu dianalogkan dg punya peluru, peluru itu saham yg kita pegang, siap dimuntahkan pada saat yg tepat atau sell atau exit pada feasible price target, apalagi kalau sebelumnya pernah loss, kita targetkan sasaran tembak dg target lebih besar vs previous loss. Kalau resitant range (RR) kondisi dimana pada rentang tertentu misal 6500 - 7000 punya kemungkinan tidak akan ber-lama2 pada posisi tsb dan lower basenya akan jatuh dibawah 6500, akan tetapi kalau sentimen pasar atau respon pasar positif, apalagi ada yg butuh stocks tsb, maka upper resitennya akan menembus melampai yang 7000. Kata sandi lain yg pernah sy posting hari rabu mlm tgl 26/11, agar player yg berani take a risk siap2 jadi pemulung (Jadi Pemulung antara Biru-Merah) kemungkinan (besar) gain besok atau lusa menjadi negatif, maksudnya kalau hari rabu posisi saham yg kita unggulkan gain positif/biru ternyata pd hari kamis berubah jadi 'merah', coba ambil resiko yg sdh diperhitungkan, ya yg merah itu take saja untuk persediaan amunisi berikutnya dan menyiapkan target tembak baru. Ternyata yg diunggulkan hari kamis memang merah, tetapi berubah menjadi biru pada hari jum'at tgl 28 kemaren. Game saham itu kadang2 layaknya main catur. See u in the next sharing.. Regards, Old Soldier JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak, Saya lihat bapak sering pake istilah 'sasaran tembak', maksudnya itu range utk jual apa beli Pak?.., sekedar ingin menyamakan persepsi. Thanks Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 23:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend Terima kasih Pak Ruzli, salam kenal. Wah iseng2 pengen buka obrolan bandar malam ini di kamar setelah capek jalan2 liburan di Ygykrta. Buka internet pakai Indosatm2 unlimmited 100 rb/bln kenceng juga jadi ingat ISAT, ada hubungan IM2 dg Indosat? ISAT ternyata lagi high ya. Share sih bisa aja pak, tetapi ilmu bapak lebih tinggi, saya sih bukan apa2nya, malu2in hehehe. Saya pikir basiknya masih sekitar chart2 yg tidak jauh dari fibinacci, candle stick, volume analysis dan sebagainya. Mungkin saya sendiri lebih suka pakai faktor koreksi angka sendiri terhadap chart maupun value. Bahkan intuisi yg melintas. Pada dasarnya saya males kalkulasi yg rumit, paling liat tren dan chartingnya, tarik garis. Tetapi setiap rumor, sentimen pasar punya nilai koreksi, indikator kemungkinan goreng, angkat-banting yg mungkin sah2 saja ? perlu diberi faktor koreksi dengen rentang nilai tertentu. Itu bisa dicoba pak,lama2 biasa dg koreksi sendiri dan tidak harus terpaku indikator atau trend pada chart standard. Sayapun tidak hebat2 amat, biasa dan low level. Ngak tau senen nanti bisa posting atau sibuk. Regards Old Soldier + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM
Re: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Consumer ...break...atau berak ??
*EVERYTHING. It's unstoppable. Not even a stupid hoax called depression. Blah, depression my ass! China is being hit too but they're able to find workarounds. Why bother with 1%, 2%, 5% gain if you know you can get 200% in a single sweep, that's without doing anything. I'm telling you sister, It's time to get lazy. Elaine** * 2008/11/30 fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wuihhh 'ga salah nech? Pak Hmin 'dah ngasih clues... Mari kita HAJAR! KLBF INDF apalagi yang mo dikomporin...? 2008/11/30 denni denni [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks Pak Hmin utk kopornyajarang2 Pak Hmin ngasih sinyal positif semua udah positif...tinggal Pak Oen wae... piye pak-e ? ijo po abang ? *Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Berhubung jendral artomoro udah bilang INDF pak DE bilang suku bunga mau turun. sekalian dah.. kompor mode untuk sektor consumer hmin nyalakan.. he.he.. berikut terlampir index consumer BEI. Setelah koreksinya tertahan di fibo 61.8 dan konsol selama 3 hari. sektor laggard satu ini sedang berusaha untuk menembus dowtrendline nya. MACD divergence ketika koreksi.. stoch 5.3.3 sudah mulai pointing up kita lihat aja... kalau senin bisa gap up...tentunya yang beli hari jumat kemarin bisa ketawa ngakak.. ha.ha... disclaimer on... kompor mode on -- Nama baru untuk Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Global Stocks Will Rally as Prices Hit ‘Extreme’ Lows...iklan
*Read carefully. The recovery is expected to happen in 2H09, by that time almost everything create a new highs (price discounts everything, anyone?). The so called crisis in the US is not real. There is no crisis at all, it's a stupid soap-opera on TV like CNBC, CNN, Fox, even OB, and other controlled media. Next year, ppl will already forget what's happening this year. Elaine** * On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Global Stocks Will Rally as Prices Hit `Extreme' Lows, RBS Says By Alexis Xydias Nov. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Investors should exploit the extreme opportunity presented by stock valuations that have overestimated the extent to which earnings will slump, according to strategists at Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc. While European earnings may decline a further 18 percent, current equity prices suggest the market is predicting a 45 percent drop, Ian Richards and Graham Bishop, strategists at RBS in London, wrote in a report today. U.S. earnings may contract another 15 percent, they wrote. Risk premia have hit extreme, and unsustainable, highs, they wrote. This has driven valuations to extreme lows. The price of European equities relative to trailing earnings may almost double as investors attempt to anticipate the bottom of the recession, according to the report. We look for the U.S. economy to lead recovery through the second half of 2009, the note said. Markets invariably pre- empt economic recovery and we expect equities to rise substantially.
RE: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Consumer ...break...atau berak ??
EVERYTHING. It's unstoppable. Not even a stupid hoax called depression. Blah, depression my ass! China is being hit too but they're able to find workarounds. Why bother with 1%, 2%, 5% gain if you know you can get 200% in a single sweep, that's without doing anything. I'm telling you sister, It's time to get lazy. Elaine Weiitss. mantaff.., ya sdh, ini lagu buat EL.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58CJih1iYC0 Tonight I'm gonna have myself a real good time I feel alive And the world, I'll turn it inside out yeah I'm floating around in ecstasy So don't stop me now Don't stop me 'cause I'm having a good time Having a good time I'm a shooting star leaping through the sky Like a tiger defying the laws of gravity I'm a racing car passing by like Lady Godiva I'm gonna go go go there's no stopping me I'm burning through the sky yea Two hundred degrees that's why they call me Mr. Fahrenheit I'm travelling at the speed of light I wanna make a supersonic man out of you Don't stop me now I'm having such a good time I'm having a ball Don't stop me now If you wanna have a good time Just give me a call Don't stop me now 'cause I'm having a good time Don't stop me now Yes I'm having a good time I don't wanna stop at all I'm a rocket ship on my way to Mars On a collision course I am a satellite I'm out of control I'm a sex machine ready to reload Like an atom bomb about to oh oh oh oh oh explode! I'm burning through the sky yeah Two hundred degrees that's why they call me Mr. Fahrenheit I'm travelling at the speed of light I wanna make a supersonic woman of you Don't stop me don't stop me, don't stop me hey hey hey! Don't stop me don't stop me ooh ooh ooh I like it Don't stop me don't stop me Have a good time good time Don't stop me don't stop me ohhh! 2008/11/30 fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wuihhh 'ga salah nech? Pak Hmin 'dah ngasih clues... Mari kita HAJAR! KLBF INDF apalagi yang mo dikomporin...? 2008/11/30 denni denni [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks Pak Hmin utk kopornyajarang2 Pak Hmin ngasih sinyal positif semua udah positif...tinggal Pak Oen wae... piye pak-e ? ijo po abang ? Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Berhubung jendral artomoro udah bilang INDF pak DE bilang suku bunga mau turun. sekalian dah.. kompor mode untuk sektor consumer hmin nyalakan.. he.he.. berikut terlampir index consumer BEI. Setelah koreksinya tertahan di fibo 61.8 dan konsol selama 3 hari. sektor laggard satu ini sedang berusaha untuk menembus dowtrendline nya. MACD divergence ketika koreksi.. stoch 5.3.3 sudah mulai pointing up kita lihat aja... kalau senin bisa gap up...tentunya yang beli hari jumat kemarin bisa ketawa ngakak.. ha.ha... disclaimer on... kompor mode on _ Nama baru untuk Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mail.prom otions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Re:( to JSXTRADER) PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend
Wah gak mungkin diambil 6500 - 7000 kata sandi memang perlu diubah sebaliknya spy tdk diketahui lawan hehehe.. Lagi coba ngintip ISAT RR nya agak kurang lebar, tapi fundamental bisnis ekonominya punya potensi bagus kalau digabung dg IM2 ! Nanti senen minta intipin temen Senen ribet banget. Ohh istilah BLAH konotasinya jadi negatif BLAH... BELAH... DIBELAH ..:-) Regards Old 'Soldier' JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IC, hampir kemarin ane tembak (buy) di 6500-7000.., hehehe, maklum Pak, biasa pake istilah sebaliknya.., tembak=BUY.., masuk sasaran tembak=masuk area BUY, dst..., untung saya nanya dulu, kalau ngga, kita bisa main tembak-tembakan haha.. BTW, ada istilah baru tuh di OB BLAH.. hehe Regards, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg Sent: 30 Nopember 2008 20:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re:( to JSXTRADER) PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend OK Boss, untuk menyamakan persepsi pengertian kata sandi sasaran tembak itu dianalogkan dg punya peluru, peluru itu saham yg kita pegang, siap dimuntahkan pada saat yg tepat atau sell atau exit pada feasible price target, apalagi kalau sebelumnya pernah loss, kita targetkan sasaran tembak dg target lebih besar vs previous loss. Kalau resitant range (RR) kondisi dimana pada rentang tertentu misal 6500 - 7000 punya kemungkinan tidak akan ber-lama2 pada posisi tsb dan lower basenya akan jatuh dibawah 6500, akan tetapi kalau sentimen pasar atau respon pasar positif, apalagi ada yg butuh stocks tsb, maka upper resitennya akan menembus melampai yang 7000. Kata sandi lain yg pernah sy posting hari rabu mlm tgl 26/11, agar player yg berani take a risk siap2 jadi pemulung (Jadi Pemulung antara Biru-Merah) kemungkinan (besar) gain besok atau lusa menjadi negatif, maksudnya kalau hari rabu posisi saham yg kita unggulkan gain positif/biru ternyata pd hari kamis berubah jadi 'merah', coba ambil resiko yg sdh diperhitungkan, ya yg merah itu take saja untuk persediaan amunisi berikutnya dan menyiapkan target tembak baru. Ternyata yg diunggulkan hari kamis memang merah, tetapi berubah menjadi biru pada hari jum'at tgl 28 kemaren. Game saham itu kadang2 layaknya main catur. See u in the next sharing.. Regards, Old Soldier JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: Pak, Saya lihat bapak sering pake istilah 'sasaran tembak', maksudnya itu range utk jual apa beli Pak?.., sekedar ingin menyamakan persepsi. Thanks Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 23:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend Terima kasih Pak Ruzli, salam kenal. Wah iseng2 pengen buka obrolan bandar malam ini di kamar setelah capek jalan2 liburan di Ygykrta. Buka internet pakai Indosatm2 unlimmited 100 rb/bln kenceng juga jadi ingat ISAT, ada hubungan IM2 dg Indosat? ISAT ternyata lagi high ya. Share sih bisa aja pak, tetapi ilmu bapak lebih tinggi, saya sih bukan apa2nya, malu2in hehehe. Saya pikir basiknya masih sekitar chart2 yg tidak jauh dari fibinacci, candle stick, volume analysis dan sebagainya. Mungkin saya sendiri lebih suka pakai faktor koreksi angka sendiri terhadap chart maupun value. Bahkan intuisi yg melintas. Pada dasarnya saya males kalkulasi yg rumit, paling liat tren dan chartingnya, tarik garis. Tetapi setiap rumor, sentimen pasar punya nilai koreksi, indikator kemungkinan goreng, angkat-banting yg mungkin sah2 saja ? perlu diberi faktor koreksi dengen rentang nilai tertentu. Itu bisa dicoba pak,lama2 biasa dg koreksi sendiri dan tidak harus terpaku indikator atau trend pada chart standard. Sayapun tidak hebat2 amat, biasa dan low level. Ngak tau senen nanti bisa posting atau sibuk. Regards Old Soldier + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Global Stocks Will Rally as Prices Hit ‘Extreme’ Lows...iklan
and ... how about our own backyard? you ever warn us about it. MD On 11/30/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Read carefully. The recovery is expected to happen in 2H09, by that time almost everything create a new highs (price discounts everything, anyone?). The so called crisis in the US is not real. There is no crisis at all, it's a stupid soap-opera on TV like CNBC, CNN, Fox, even OB, and other controlled media. Next year, ppl will already forget what's happening this year. Elaine** * On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Global Stocks Will Rally as Prices Hit `Extreme' Lows, RBS Says By Alexis Xydias Nov. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Investors should exploit the extreme opportunity presented by stock valuations that have overestimated the extent to which earnings will slump, according to strategists at Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc. While European earnings may decline a further 18 percent, current equity prices suggest the market is predicting a 45 percent drop, Ian Richards and Graham Bishop, strategists at RBS in London, wrote in a report today. U.S. earnings may contract another 15 percent, they wrote. Risk premia have hit extreme, and unsustainable, highs, they wrote. This has driven valuations to extreme lows. The price of European equities relative to trailing earnings may almost double as investors attempt to anticipate the bottom of the recession, according to the report. We look for the U.S. economy to lead recovery through the second half of 2009, the note said. Markets invariably pre- empt economic recovery and we expect equities to rise substantially.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Global Stocks Will R ally as Prices Hit ‘Extreme’ Lows...iklan
What is underlying reason for saying today crisis is fake, dear Elaine? Lehman banckruptcy, almost dying Citibank, half dead GM/Ford/Chrysler, and too many big shot to name it. Are they just acting “tumbal“? to the new world economy. Too bad huh? Future is yes better than now, but at least why suddenly people make up mind too soon? Can't understand clearly. Rgds Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:30:21 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Global Stocks Will R ally as Prices Hit ‘Extreme’ Lows...iklan *Read carefully. The recovery is expected to happen in 2H09, by that time almost everything create a new highs (price discounts everything, anyone?). The so called crisis in the US is not real. There is no crisis at all, it's a stupid soap-opera on TV like CNBC, CNN, Fox, even OB, and other controlled media. Next year, ppl will already forget what's happening this year. Elaine** * On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Global Stocks Will Rally as Prices Hit `Extreme' Lows, RBS Says By Alexis Xydias Nov. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Investors should exploit the extreme opportunity presented by stock valuations that have overestimated the extent to which earnings will slump, according to strategists at Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc. While European earnings may decline a further 18 percent, current equity prices suggest the market is predicting a 45 percent drop, Ian Richards and Graham Bishop, strategists at RBS in London, wrote in a report today. U.S. earnings may contract another 15 percent, they wrote. Risk premia have hit extreme, and unsustainable, highs, they wrote. This has driven valuations to extreme lows. The price of European equities relative to trailing earnings may almost double as investors attempt to anticipate the bottom of the recession, according to the report. We look for the U.S. economy to lead recovery through the second half of 2009, the note said. Markets invariably pre- empt economic recovery and we expect equities to rise substantially.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Senin bumi ar kanan, harga tuker guling 18xx-19xx
itu klo semua saham BUMI (3.74 milyar) yang digadaikan ke Odickson di-take sama Northstar. Tp klo si Rohali ngitung2 dulu harga BUMInya berarti Northstar bakalan dapet jumlah lebih dikit (gimana klo Mpok Rohali bilang BUMInye ane hargain 4000 deh). Yg berarti pula MOU penjualan 35% saham BUMI Oktober kmaren jadi meaningless ...
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: indf ?
Kalo Elaine yg dulunya pawang beruang aja udh jadi pawang banteng, saya rasa saat ini beruang lagi teler keselek muntahan mie... Good luck Pak Arto! -Original Message- From: artomoro9 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:43 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: indf ? Mulai besok senen sampe senen nya lagi makan indomie terus, kira2 harganya jadi berapa ya? Kalo di warung sdh 1500, di kantin bei jadi berapa ya?. Salam, artomoro9. (indo seleraku). Note: berani ga balapan rebutan sama pengepul barang murah. .?--- In obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED], JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indf masih akumulasi, sabar aja, (akumulasi mulu nih BD., kapan mark up-nya ya??...hahaha) kalau bisa copetin aja dikit-dikit. Levelnya pasti sdh tau kan.., BUY di XXX, SELL di XXX, hehehe... Berikut data komparasi di sector consumer.. JsxTrader
[obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader
oke bu fifi young.. mulai sekarang rajin baca Ob dan ikutin petunjuk dari Jt, artomoro atau Elaine deh siapa tahu jadi bayak rejeki.. masa 11 thn maen bodo trus nih... malu jadi senin tambah muatan indf yah.. komandonya? billy investor supermini
Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader
Wah pak JT aja pasang badan... Saya pasang jadi Pagar betis-nya deh pak he.. he.. he... Di INDF, saya pasang badan juga, rame rame gempuuurrr On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:21 PM, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jangan pernah merasa terlambat Pak, itu akan membuat anda mengambil keputusan yg tergesa-gesa nantinya.., santai aja, kesempatan selalu ada. untuk besok, Jendral Artomoro sudah siap tempur, Pak Halim sdh menabuh genderang perang, kalau digebuk, Insya Allah saya sdh siap 'pasang badan', hehe Kita tunggu apakah ada fatwa dari Pak DE, EL dan yg lainnyan, Terutama perintah panglima tertinggi, Mbah..., I am sure Mbah lagi siapin strategy buat kita-kita. Sent from my BlackBerry(R) powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -- *From*: Eko Nurcahyono *Date*: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:50:50 -0800 (PST) *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader Pak JT .. Buat yang udah telat take a position senin saham apa ya .. yang masih prospektif Thanks, rgds, eno --- On *Sat, 11/29/08, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] thx pak jsxtrader To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:01 PM Ahaaah.. .?! Maen uda 11 tahun aja rugi melulu, gimana Nubie ya? Tapi keknya yang baru masuk sekarang malah lebih banyak Cuan nya, soale harganya 'kan dah murah. Apalagi kalo ngikutin Jendral/Suhu Cuan kita... dijamin lebih banyak Cuan daripada loss. So ikutin aja apa kata Mbah, JT, Artomoro9, Elaine.. (segera menyusul clues-nya, ya 'kan?) Dan jangan lupa... kalo uda Cuan banyak, click DONATION OB ya... * * * Yang merasa uda Cuan banyak, boleh donk ngasih 'DONATION' kalo masih belom, ya tenang2 aja dulu dech Eh, ini 'ga ada yang nyuruh loh! Atas kesadaran sendiri. ...he...he. .. 2008/11/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] thx yah pak Jsxtrader moga moga indf nya gak kelamaan diakumulasinya ntar muntah malahan. hehehe.. sekrang mah i mau ikutan komado jsxtrader aja aha cara maennya.. biar banyak cuan.. abis selama ini maen saham udah 11 thn bykan rugi... daripada untungnya.. BILLY investor supermini
RE: [obrolan-bandar] CPO : AALI curi start??
Kemarin untuk CPO , AALI udah curi start duluan yang lain masih malu2 ada clue untuk saham2 agro nga , terutama UNSP, saham termurah saat ini untuk agro? --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Aria Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Aria Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: indf ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:54 PM Kalo Elaine yg dulunya pawang beruang aja udh jadi pawang banteng, saya rasa saat ini beruang lagi teler keselek muntahan mie... Good luck Pak Arto! -Original Message- From: artomoro9 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:43 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: indf ? Mulai besok senen sampe senen nya lagi makan indomie terus, kira2 harganya jadi berapa ya? Kalo di warung sdh 1500, di kantin bei jadi berapa ya?. Salam, artomoro9. (indo seleraku). Note: berani ga balapan rebutan sama pengepul barang murah. .?--- In obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Indf masih akumulasi, sabar aja, (akumulasi mulu nih BD., kapan mark up-nya ya??...hahaha) kalau bisa copetin aja dikit-dikit. Levelnya pasti sdh tau kan.., BUY di XXX, SELL di XXX, hehehe... Berikut data komparasi di sector consumer.. JsxTrader
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kenapa turun jumlah utangnya?
Di Koran Sindo hari ini, halaman 2, Yuanita Rohali ngomong begitu. --- On Sat, 11/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kenapa turun jumlah utangnya? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 9:41 PM Bener nih di hedge? Syukurlah kl gitu, cm ko saya ragu ya? Hope bener hutangnya di hedge dah Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: indriyanta s. Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:18:10 -0800 (PST) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kenapa turun jumlah utangnya? Utangnya dihedging US $ 1 = Rp 9.200, dengan kurs sekarang Rp 12.000 berarti secara RUPIAH utangnya tetap, tetapi secara US $ berkurang. 9.200 x 967,3 = 12.000 x 742 --- On Sat, 11/29/08, Steve Leirissa steveleirissa@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Steve Leirissa steveleirissa@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kenapa turun jumlah utangnya? To: steveleirissa@ yahoo.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:22 AM Sehubungan dengan itu, Direktur Keuangan BNBR Yuanita Rohali menjelaskan, utang BNBR ke Odickson semula memang mencapai US$ 967,3 juta. Namun seiring dengan melemahnya nilai tukar rupiah atas dolar AS, Yuanita mengatakan utang ke Odickson turun menjadi sekitar US$ 742 juta. Emangnya BNBR ngutangnya pake mata uang US$ atau IDR. Kalo dari mata uang USD bukannya gak akan turun alias tetap?. Mohon penjelasan yang ngerti masalah ini ... Jelasin logikanya thx SL
[obrolan-bandar] Re: [Milis-AATI] Perjalanan IHSG selanjutnya
Sebenernya tarikan garis trend dengan pararel line tersebut untuk menunjukkan bahwa ada keterkaitan erat antara metode analisa dengan menggunakan wave theory, klasik TA maupun modern TA Seperti yang dikatakan Pak Gideon dan seperti semboyan yang digunakan oleh IFTA Where market technician from arround the world speak the same language Signal-signal yang dimaksud adalah sbb: 1. Dengan Wave Theory signal merada pada Fase B dari pola Normal correction dengan target di 1400 an jika pola ini valid dan akan menjuju titik C sebagai akhir dari pola ini maka akan kembali terbentuk pola bearish divergence di area 1400an 2. Dengan menggunakan trendline, Pada candle yang sama terlihat candle menembus trendline yang atas dan memunculkan signal beli (breakout trendline) 3. Golden cross MACD signal 3,5,2 (visual optimasi). Ketiga signal tersebut muncul secara bersama2 pada hari dan candle yang sama. Sesuatu yang menarik sebenarnya. Teknik yang dipaai pak Tasrul biasanya dengan menggunakan linear regresseion channel. Mungkin Pak Tasrul sendiri yang bisa lebih menggambarkan apakah dengan teknik tersebut signal buy juga diteteksi pada hari yang sama dengan metode yang saya lakukan. Kiranya demikian, Dengan penuh kasih, Aditya --- On Sun, 11/30/08, satrio utomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: satrio utomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Milis-AATI] Perjalanan IHSG selanjutnya To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 8:13 PM wih... tarikan garis trend-nya... sepertinya ini alirannya lebih ke tasrul atau ke yuga? nggak ah... lebih ke tasrul... :D --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ yahoo.com Subject: [Milis-AATI] Perjalanan IHSG selanjutnya To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 8:35 AM Dalam posting sebelumnya tentang IHSG bull yang tanpa alasan dan komentar-komentar berikut saya sertakan alasan-alasan dan komentar2 dari IHSG bull 1. Terbentuk pola double bottom with bullish divergence 2. Golden Cross MACD Signal Disclaimer: Analisa diatas dibuat berdasarkan view dan pandangan pribadi menggunakan teknikal analisa, analisa diatas hanya merupakan bagian kecil dari metode trading. dan bukanlah merupakan untuk menjual atau membeli di market. Tetap sesuaikan metode trading dan investasi anda dengan modal dan kemampuan menahan resiko yang anda miliki Semoga Bermanfaat Kind Regards, This post originally posted at: http://www.trendtra der.co.cc/ 2008/11/ihsg- movement- december- 2008.html Aditya
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan
Tumben, el positif Tapi inilah guys, this is I think the moment of truth Time to really get bullish on this Signs has been shown, and try to stay in. Even BD most important general has already spoken. I tell you guys, this is it, If you ever want to average down, all ammo out, there cannot be a better time than now. If before this time everyone still says condition is going to be bullish, It still be bearish until now. Until the general has spoken. If before BEI get real hammered down like shit This time we'll see it flying sky high, so high that we get dizzy just by seeing it. Flying prices and running indexes, never stop until you wonder why. Come on guys, can't you see the signs? Pull yourselves up together They showed up just a week before now. Will be better seen this week. Mbah, JSXTraders, Halim, where are you guys..? Don't be greedy hehehe.. Tell them the signs. Don't be late for the hunting party. 500% up? why not ? Only time can tell. Dear El, I'll be watching and waiting. I don't know who you are, frankly I don't care. BLAH BLAH BLAH hehehe (don't think the meaning was love, honey, but who cares) I just know what you are and where are you standing now. You and I are using the same book. I just see the signs, and you, thanks for making me more confident PS : Hati2 koreksi sehat. (benar2 koreksi sehat di setiap resistent / support) Good hunting to you all. SALAM SEMANGAT, KOMPOR MODE ON G - MAN
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: how about Trio macan
Blah3 to all Bull generals.. Have stood stern with BUMI, n now time to earn my price... On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:03 PM, G - MAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tumben, el positif Tapi inilah guys, this is I think the moment of truth Time to really get bullish on this *Signs has been shown*, and try to stay in. *Even BD most important general has already spoken*. I tell you guys, this is it, *If you ever want to average down, all ammo out, there cannot be a better time than now*. If before this time everyone still says condition is going to be bullish, It still be bearish until now. *Until the general has spoken*. If before BEI get real hammered down like shit This time we'll see it flying sky high, so high that we get dizzy just by seeing it. Flying prices and running indexes, never stop until you wonder why. Come on guys, can't you see *the signs*? Pull yourselves up together They showed up just a week before now. Will be better seen this week. Mbah, JSXTraders, Halim, where are you guys..? Don't be greedy hehehe…. Tell them *the signs*. Don't be late for the *hunting party.* 500% up? why not ? Only time can tell. Dear El, I'll be watching and waiting. I don't know who you are, frankly I don't care. BLAH BLAH BLAH hehehe (don't think the meaning was love, honey, but who cares) I just know what you are and where are you standing now. You and I are using the same book. I just see the signs, and you, thanks for making me more confident PS : Hati2 koreksi sehat. (benar2 koreksi sehat di setiap resistent / support) Good hunting to you all. SALAM SEMANGAT, KOMPOR MODE ON G - MAN
Re: [obrolan-bandar] INDF Buyback 10 Persen Saham
INDF berulang kali gagal tembus 970. Sekarang malah 930. BEtul hati2 kebanyakan makan Indomi dapat menyebabkan KANtong KERing xi xi xi xi On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ikuuuttt. Akhirnya INDF dibicarain juga. Terus terang udah hampir 2 minggu ini saya ikutin terus dan ternyata tidak percuma. Mantaff, PESTA INDOMIE kita mulai Hati-hati Kena Kanker!!! 2008/11/30 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peta Pertempuran.., BD INDF akan kita kepung…. Hehehe JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Halim Mintareja Sent: 30 Nopember 2008 11:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INDF Buyback 10 Persen Saham nah lho... tambah lagi kompor ha.ha... besok ifut perang akbar... semua jurus dipakai buat gempur.. Pak Jendral memimpin pasukan inflantri Pak JT atur pasukan support.. Emiten pakai jurus buy back hmin mau av up kalau trendline jebol moga-moga gak ada asiong keluarkan bom nuklir ha.ha Gempur indofood buat senin kompor ngawur ha.ha 2008/11/28 datasahamku [EMAIL PROTECTED] VIVANews - PT Indofood Sukses Makmur Tbk (INDF) berencana membeli kembali (buyback) saham maksimal 10 persen dari modal ditempatkan dan disetor penuh. Rencana pembelian saham akan dilakukan pada harga yang dianggap wajar oleh manajemen perseroan. Guna meningkatkan imbal hasil atas ekuitas dan laba bersih per saham, perseroan berencana membeli sebanyak-banyaknya 10 persen saham, ujar Sekretaris Perusahaan Indofood Sukses Makmur, Werianty Setiawan, dalam penjelasan keterbukaan informasi yang dipublikasikan Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI), di Jakarta, Jumat, 28 November 2008. Dia mengatakan, pembelian kembali saham akan dilakukan dalam jangka waktu tiga bulan, sejak 1 Desember 2008 hingga 1 Maret 2009. Transaksi pembelian akan dilakukan melalui satu anggota bursa efek yang ditunjuk perseroan, kata dia dalam keterbukaan informasi itu. Indofood telah menunjuk PT Harita Kencana Securities sebagai broker pelaksana pembelian kembali saham itu. Werianty menjelaskan, krisis keuangan global yang berdampak negatif ke pasar modal ikut berimbas pada harga saham perseroan. Meski kondisi keuangan cukup sehat, kondisi tersebut memicu penurunan harga saham perseroan. Perseroan akan menggunakan dana internal sekitar Rp 900 miliar untuk membiayai rencana pembelian kembali saham itu. Selanjutnya, perseroan akan menyimpan saham yang akan dibeli sebagai saham harta (treasury stock). Namun, sesuai ketentuan pasar modal, perseroan dapat menjual kembali sebagian atau seluruh saham harta itu. Kami juga dapat melakukan pengurangan modal ditempatkan dan disetor dengan cara penarikan kembali seluruh atau sebagian dari treasury stock, ujar dia. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Poll results for obrolan-bandar
The following obrolan-bandar poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: IHSG 1000. Mau? CHOICES AND RESULTS - Mau., 53 votes, 33.54% - Gak mau., 105 votes, 66.46% For more information about this group, please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Global Stocks Will Rally as Prices Hit ‘Extreme’ Lows...iklan
Friends, traders hati-hati...El bicara jangka panjang sedangkan kita bicara harian...keep PT and prepare for the worst...buat saya seperti kata pak DE, its swing market now... Salam From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:30:21 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Global Stocks Will Rally as Prices Hit ‘Extreme’ Lows...iklan Read carefully. The recovery is expected to happen in 2H09, by that time almost everything create a new highs (price discounts everything, anyone?). The so called crisis in the US is not real. There is no crisis at all, it's a stupid soap-opera on TV like CNBC, CNN, Fox, even OB, and other controlled media. Next year, ppl will already forget what's happening this year. Elaine On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ yahoo.co. id wrote: Global Stocks Will Rally as Prices Hit `Extreme' Lows, RBS Says By Alexis Xydias Nov. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Investors should exploit the extreme opportunity presented by stock valuations that have overestimated the extent to which earnings will slump, according to strategists at Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc. While European earnings may decline a further 18 percent, current equity prices suggest the market is predicting a 45 percent drop, Ian Richards and Graham Bishop, strategists at RBS in London, wrote in a report today. U.S. earnings may contract another 15 percent, they wrote. Risk premia have hit extreme, and unsustainable, highs, they wrote. This has driven valuations to extreme lows. The price of European equities relative to trailing earnings may almost double as investors attempt to anticipate the bottom of the recession, according to the report. We look for the U.S. economy to lead recovery through the second half of 2009, the note said. Markets invariably pre- empt economic recovery and we expect equities to rise substantially.
[obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah.
[obrolan-bandar] Indonesia Inflation Seen Falling to Five-Month Low: Week Ahead
Indonesia Inflation Seen Falling to Five-Month Low: Week Ahead Email?Subject=Bloomberg%20news:%20%20Indonesia%20Inflation%20Seen%20Falling%20to%20Five-Month%20Low:%20Week%20Ahead%20body=%20Indonesia%20Inflation%20Seen%20Falling%20to%20Five-Month%20Low:%20Week%20Ahead%20%0D%0A%0D%0A%20http%3A//www.bloomberg.com/apps/news%3Fpid%3Demail_en%26refer=home%26sid%3DaFjtGwrl8Xog| Printhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=aFjtGwrl8Xogrefer=home#| Ahttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=aFjtGwrl8Xogrefer=home# Ahttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=aFjtGwrl8Xogrefer=home# Ahttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=aFjtGwrl8Xogrefer=home# By Arijit Ghosh and Michael Munoz Dec. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's inflation rate probably fell to a five-month low in November as fuel and food prices declined, the Central Statistics Bureau may say today. Consumer prices increased 11.6 percent from a year earlier, after gaining 11.8 percent in October, according to the median forecasthttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=IDCPIY%3AINDof 18 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News. The statistics agency will announce the data after midday today. Indonesia cut gasoline prices today by 8.3 percent after crude oil plunged 63 percent from a record in July. Declining palm oil and soybean prices have also helped inflation in Asian economies. The central bank will meet on Dec. 4 to decide on its policy rate. Falling oil prices allowed the government to reduce fuel prices for industry, which helps ease pressure on production costs, said Alexander Sugandihttp://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Alexander+Sugandisite=wnewsclient=wnewsproxystylesheet=wnewsoutput=xml_no_dtdie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8filter=pgetfields=wnnissort=date:D:S:d1, an economist at Standard Chartered Plc in Jakarta. Sufficient stock of food, particularly rice, also help contain prices. Gains in consumer prices slowed to 0.2 percent in November from the month earlier after rising 0.5 percent in October, according to the Bloomberg survey. The statistics agency may also say today exporthttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=IDEXPY%3AINDgrowth slowed to 16.3 percent in October after a 28.5 percent gain a month earlier, according to the survey. Imports grew 40 percent, according to the survey, from 38.5 percent. Indonesia's key stock indexhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=JCI%3AINDrose 8.3 percent last week, the biggest weekly gain in 15 months. PT Bumi Resources, Asia's No. 1 thermal coal producer, advanced 42 percent last week, the largest gain in five years. Shares Pledged TPG's Indonesian affiliate and PT Bakrie Brothers, controlled by the family of Welfare Minister Aburizal Bakriehttp://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Aburizal+Bakriesite=wnewsclient=wnewsproxystylesheet=wnewsoutput=xml_no_dtdie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8filter=pgetfields=wnnissort=date:D:S:d1, will form a venture to control Bumi in a deal that will help Bakrie pay debt raised by pledging shares of Bumi and other units. Northstar Equity Partners, the Indonesian affiliate of U.S. buyout firm TPG, will take over $575 million of Bakrie Brothers's debt as part of the transaction, Bakrie Brothers President Director Nalinkant Rathod said on Nov. 28. PT Indosat, Indonesia's second-largest phone company, added 16 percent last week. Qatar Telecom QSC, seeking to control Indosat, agreed to pay its original offer price for more shares in Indosat. Qatar Telecom will offer 7,388 rupiah a share to boost its Indosat stake, Ahmad Fuad Rahmanyhttp://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Ahmad+Fuad+Rahmanysite=wnewsclient=wnewsproxystylesheet=wnewsoutput=xml_no_dtdie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8filter=pgetfields=wnnissort=date:D:S:d1, chairman of the Indonesian regulator, said in an interview on Nov. 28. The rupiah was unchanged at 12,100 against the dollar last week, after dropping 4.3 percent a week earlier. The Indonesian central bank banned the purchase of foreign currencies through so-called structured products to help curb the rupiah's slump. Buying foreign currencies using the rupiah is not allowed in any amount if the purchase or the potential of that purchase is related to structured products, Bank Indonesia said. The purchase of foreign currencies is only allowed for non- speculative activities. The following are key events for this week. Consumer price data release Dec. 1 Bank Internasional extraordinary meeting Dec. 1 PT Indotambang Raya ex-dividend Dec. 2 Bank Indonesia monetary policy meetingDec. 4 PT Indofood Sukses Makmur public expose Dec. 5 PT Inco Indonesia extraordinary meeting Dec. 5 To contact the reporters on this story: Arijit Ghosh in Jakarta at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[obrolan-bandar] Analisis IHSG 1 Desember 2008
IHSG telah memasuki fase baru dengan telah menjebol breakout downtrend. Berbagai indikator teknikal sangat cantik. IHSG berpeluang melanjutkan rally-nya walau dibayangi profit taking Analisis lengkap dan gambar dapat dibaca di http://www.escamoney.com/ihsg/analisis-ihsg-1-desember-2008.html Disclaimer ON Salam Desmond Wira
[obrolan-bandar] BUMI : Detik Penutupan Jumat.
Menjelang penutupan Jumat kemarin AK membeli BUMI dalam jumlah lumayan besar. Apakah ini Spekulasi atau Antisipasi? Sedangkan posisi beberapa broker Asing beberapa hari sebelumnya, adalah SELL. Kalau menurut saya ini Antisipasi: - Karena kalau tidak ditarik ke harga Rp.1000, maka bila terjadi rejection kebawah, maka harga BUMI akan anjlok dibawah Rp.800. Dengan penarikan ini, maka maksimal hari ini cuma turun 10% (sekitar Rp.9xx) Apalagi dari berita yang didapat setelah DI belum jelas. Mungkin ada yang punya info lebih detail ? Salam JACK
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI : Detik Penutupan Jumat.
Some bad news will be arrived this week from regional and uncle sam [i don't want to say anything about Indo because if I said wrong then I get jailed :)]. Just wait what will be happened to IDX and bource around the world. Remainder: Large cap stock has become Mid Cap or even Small Cap (So, how low can you go?) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI : Detik Penutupan Jumat. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 12:11 AM Menjelang penutupan Jumat kemarin AK membeli BUMI dalam jumlah lumayan besar.Apakah ini Spekulasi atau Antisipasi? Sedangkan posisi beberapa broker Asing beberapa hari sebelumnya, adalah SELL. Kalau menurut saya ini Antisipasi:- Karena kalau tidak ditarik ke harga Rp.1000, maka bila terjadi rejection kebawah,maka harga BUMI akan anjlok dibawah Rp.800. Dengan penarikan ini, maka maksimal hari ini cuma turun 10% (sekitar Rp.9xx) Apalagi dari berita yang didapat setelah DI belum jelas. Mungkin ada yang punya info lebih detail ? SalamJACK
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPV Bakrie-Northstar Tangani Utang ke Odickson
kemungkinan hutangnya ke Odikson turun kalau Bakri berhutang dalam rupiah dan Odikson kecele kena kibul (apa mungkin Odikson mau kasih utang dalam Rupiah???) 2008/11/29 Ned Putra [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPV Bakrie-Northstar Tangani Utang ke Odickson *Indro Bagus SU* - detikFinance * Foto: Reuters * lt;a href=' http://openx.detik.com/delivery/ck.php?n=a3db6179amp;amp;cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HEREhttp://openx.detik.com/delivery/ck.php?n=a3db6179amp;cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'gt;lt;img src=' http://openx.detik.com/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=31amp;amp;cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HEREamp;amp;n=a3db6179http://openx.detik.com/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=31amp;cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HEREamp;n=a3db6179' border='0' alt='' /gt;lt;/agt; SPV Bakrie-Northstar Tangani Utang ke Odickson *Jakarta* - Opsi penyelesaian utang PT Bakrie Brothers Tbk (BNBR) ke Odickson berakhir dengan kesepakatan membentuk Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) dengan Northstar Pacific Partners Ltd. Saham-saham yang digadaikan ke Odickson akan ditempatkan dalam SPV yang akan dioperasikan oleh BNBR dan Northstar sebagai strategic partnership, ujar Direktur BNBR, Dileep Srivastava pada detikFinance, Sabtu (29/11/2008). Opsi tersebut diambil setelah kedua belah pihak melakukan uji tuntas (due diligence) selama 28 hari sejak 31 Oktober 2008. Pada 31 Oktober, BNBR menandatangani pra perjanjian jual beli 35% saham PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) senilai US$ 1,3 miliar dengan Northstar. Namun setelah melakukan due diligence, kondisi perjanjian berubah sepenuhnya. Dari semula perjanjian jual beli, berubah menjadi perjanjian membentuk perusahaan patungan (Joint Venture Agreement). Penandatanganan telah dilakukan Jumat (28/11/2008) malam. Nilai transaksi tepatnya US$ 572 juta, jelas Dileep. Dalam keterangan semula, Presdir BNBR Nalinkant A Rathod mengatakan bahwa utang BNBR yang diambil alih oleh Northstar adalah sebesar US$ 575 juta. http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2008/11/28/234401/1044991/6/northstar-ambil-alih-utang-bakrie-ke-odickson-us$-575-juta Perubahan tersebut disebabkan BNBR kesulitan mengamankan 35% sahamnya di BUMI yang sebagian besar beredar di tangan para kreditornya lantaran sudah ada yang dilepas ke pasar, CEO Northstar Patrick Walujo dalam keterangannya pada detikfinance pun mengakui bahwa perjanjian pengambilalihan saham BUMI kemungkinan hanya akan sebesar 10-20%. Sementara dalam catatan detikFinance, BNBR memiliki pinjaman sebesar US$ 1,086 miliar ke Odickson Finance dan baru dibayar US$ 118,7 juta sehingga tersisa US$ 967,3 juta. Sehubungan dengan itu, Direktur Keuangan BNBR Yuanita Rohali menjelaskan, utang BNBR ke Odickson semula memang mencapai US$ 967,3 juta. Namun seiring dengan melemahnya nilai tukar rupiah atas dolar AS, Yuanita mengatakan utang ke Odickson turun menjadi sekitar US$ 742 juta. Sementara itu, lantaran BNBR tidak bisa memenuhi persyaratan dalam klausul perjanjian 31 Oktober mengenai pengamanan 35% saham BUMI, bentuk perjanjian final kedua belah pihak pun diubah. Melihat kondisi ini, keduanya sepakat mengubah bentuk perjanjian menjadi joint venture. Northstar yang semula hanya berniat mengambil alih 35% saham BUMI, kini ikut bergabung dengan BNBR menangani saham-saham BUMI, ENRG dan ELTY yang digadaikan BNBR ke Odickson. Kendati kerjasama membentuk SPV dan nilai transaksi telah dilakukan, Dileep mengatakan persentase maupun detail transaksi masih akan dibahas kedua belah pihak. Finalisasi detail-detail tersebut kami harapkan dapat diperoleh Desember mendatang, ujar Dileep. Dengan transaksi US$ 572 juta tersebut, Northstar akan mengambil alih 19,27% saham BUMI yang digadaikan BNBR ke Odickson. Namun karena saham-saham tersebut masih berada di tangan Odickson, Northstar akan ikut menangani mekanisme pembebasan saham-saham yang digadaikan BNBR ke Odickson melalui SPV BNBR-Northstar. Opini saya, ini merupakan resolusi yang baik optimal bagi semua pihak, jelas Dileep.*(dro/ddn)* -- Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. br Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu. hehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI : Detik Penutupan Jumat.
bad news bagi yg belum beli atau yg udah beli??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some bad news will be arrived this week from regional and uncle sam [i don't want to say anything about Indo because if I said wrong then I get jailed :)]. Just wait what will be happened to IDX and bource around the world. Remainder: Large cap stock has become Mid Cap or even Small Cap (So, how low can you go?) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI : Detik Penutupan Jumat. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 12:11 AM Menjelang penutupan Jumat kemarin AK membeli BUMI dalam jumlah lumayan besar.Apakah ini Spekulasi atau Antisipasi? Sedangkan posisi beberapa broker Asing beberapa hari sebelumnya, adalah SELL. Kalau menurut saya ini Antisipasi:- Karena kalau tidak ditarik ke harga Rp.1000, maka bila terjadi rejection kebawah,maka harga BUMI akan anjlok dibawah Rp.800. Dengan penarikan ini, maka maksimal hari ini cuma turun 10% (sekitar Rp.9xx) Apalagi dari berita yang didapat setelah DI belum jelas. Mungkin ada yang punya info lebih detail ? SalamJACK
[obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT: Tanya strategi target scalpe
*betul sekali pak volume sobi sama sekali tidak menunjang* Re: OOT: Tanya strategi target scalpe Posted by: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] jsxtrader Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:51 am (PST) ikutan nimbrung ya Pak Hanif..., -kalau menurut saya SOBI ngga bisa dijadikan 'sample' yg baik Pak, karena volumenya ngga ada, jadi menurut saya bisa diabaikan saja ... -Anyway, Jika pakai Metastock, candle tetap akan terlihat merah, meskipun bolong. Rgrds, JsxTrader sobi.png -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Hanif Mantiq Sent: 30 Nopember 2008 15:32 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT: Tanya strategi target scalpe *sobi bandarnya pintar banget, setelah dibuat hijau, besoknya harga langsung dibawa turun dulu pas opening trus closing diangkat sehingga bisa bikin ijo terus, contohnya setelah mengalami penurunan dari 1050 ke 800 pada tanggal 6 november 2008 tiba tiba candlenya ijo panjang dari opening 770 ditarik ke 850, esoknya harga langsung dibawa turun kebawah pas opening langsung loncat harga 780 lalu hari itu dibuat ijo lagi dengan ditutup pada harga 840, kalo mengalami hal seperti ini sebaiknya dibuang saja karena candle ijo digambar bandar, jadi sisakan satu syarat lagi bahwa candle stick harus ijo tapi penutupan hari sebelumnya harus lebih rendah harganya dibandingkan penutupan esoknya. Pada kasus sobi penutupan hari sebelumnya 850 lebih tinggi dibandingkan penutupan esoknya 840 meskipun sama sama candle hijau, tapi kalau hal ini berlangsung lama bisa bisa harga turun 200 rupiah dalam 20 hari berikutnya. CMIIW*
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPV Bakrie-Northstar Tangani Utang ke Odickson
Akhirnya scenario kedua has been launched .. * BUMI GAK JADI DIJUAL...* Scenario ketiga, kita tunggu saja tanggal mainnya :)) 2008/12/1 James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] kemungkinan hutangnya ke Odikson turun kalau Bakri berhutang dalam rupiah dan Odikson kecele kena kibul (apa mungkin Odikson mau kasih utang dalam Rupiah???) 2008/11/29 Ned Putra [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPV Bakrie-Northstar Tangani Utang ke Odickson *Indro Bagus SU* - detikFinance * Foto: Reuters * lt;a href=' http://openx.detik.com/delivery/ck.php?n=a3db6179amp;amp;cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HEREhttp://openx.detik.com/delivery/ck.php?n=a3db6179cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'gt;lt;img src=' http://openx.detik.com/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=31amp;amp;cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HEREamp;amp;n=a3db6179http://openx.detik.com/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=31cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HEREn=a3db6179' border='0' alt='' /gt;lt;/agt; SPV Bakrie-Northstar Tangani Utang ke Odickson *Jakarta* - Opsi penyelesaian utang PT Bakrie Brothers Tbk (BNBR) ke Odickson berakhir dengan kesepakatan membentuk Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) dengan Northstar Pacific Partners Ltd. Saham-saham yang digadaikan ke Odickson akan ditempatkan dalam SPV yang akan dioperasikan oleh BNBR dan Northstar sebagai strategic partnership, ujar Direktur BNBR, Dileep Srivastava pada detikFinance, Sabtu (29/11/2008). Opsi tersebut diambil setelah kedua belah pihak melakukan uji tuntas (due diligence) selama 28 hari sejak 31 Oktober 2008. Pada 31 Oktober, BNBR menandatangani pra perjanjian jual beli 35% saham PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) senilai US$ 1,3 miliar dengan Northstar. Namun setelah melakukan due diligence, kondisi perjanjian berubah sepenuhnya. Dari semula perjanjian jual beli, berubah menjadi perjanjian membentuk perusahaan patungan (Joint Venture Agreement). Penandatanganan telah dilakukan Jumat (28/11/2008) malam. Nilai transaksi tepatnya US$ 572 juta, jelas Dileep. Dalam keterangan semula, Presdir BNBR Nalinkant A Rathod mengatakan bahwa utang BNBR yang diambil alih oleh Northstar adalah sebesar US$ 575 juta. http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2008/11/28/234401/1044991/6/northstar-ambil-alih-utang-bakrie-ke-odickson-us$-575-juta Perubahan tersebut disebabkan BNBR kesulitan mengamankan 35% sahamnya di BUMI yang sebagian besar beredar di tangan para kreditornya lantaran sudah ada yang dilepas ke pasar, CEO Northstar Patrick Walujo dalam keterangannya pada detikfinance pun mengakui bahwa perjanjian pengambilalihan saham BUMI kemungkinan hanya akan sebesar 10-20%. Sementara dalam catatan detikFinance, BNBR memiliki pinjaman sebesar US$ 1,086 miliar ke Odickson Finance dan baru dibayar US$ 118,7 juta sehingga tersisa US$ 967,3 juta. Sehubungan dengan itu, Direktur Keuangan BNBR Yuanita Rohali menjelaskan, utang BNBR ke Odickson semula memang mencapai US$ 967,3 juta. Namun seiring dengan melemahnya nilai tukar rupiah atas dolar AS, Yuanita mengatakan utang ke Odickson turun menjadi sekitar US$ 742 juta. Sementara itu, lantaran BNBR tidak bisa memenuhi persyaratan dalam klausul perjanjian 31 Oktober mengenai pengamanan 35% saham BUMI, bentuk perjanjian final kedua belah pihak pun diubah. Melihat kondisi ini, keduanya sepakat mengubah bentuk perjanjian menjadi joint venture. Northstar yang semula hanya berniat mengambil alih 35% saham BUMI, kini ikut bergabung dengan BNBR menangani saham-saham BUMI, ENRG dan ELTY yang digadaikan BNBR ke Odickson. Kendati kerjasama membentuk SPV dan nilai transaksi telah dilakukan, Dileep mengatakan persentase maupun detail transaksi masih akan dibahas kedua belah pihak. Finalisasi detail-detail tersebut kami harapkan dapat diperoleh Desember mendatang, ujar Dileep. Dengan transaksi US$ 572 juta tersebut, Northstar akan mengambil alih 19,27% saham BUMI yang digadaikan BNBR ke Odickson. Namun karena saham-saham tersebut masih berada di tangan Odickson, Northstar akan ikut menangani mekanisme pembebasan saham-saham yang digadaikan BNBR ke Odickson melalui SPV BNBR-Northstar. Opini saya, ini merupakan resolusi yang baik optimal bagi semua pihak, jelas Dileep.*(dro/ddn)* -- Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. br Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kenapa turun jumlah utangnya?
Wkt pinjem dulu dlm DOLLAR (9.200 x USD 967,3 juta), sekarang lunasin dalam RUPIAH (12.000 x USD 742 juta) On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:40 PM, indriyanta s. [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Di Koran Sindo hari ini, halaman 2, Yuanita Rohali ngomong begitu. --- On *Sat, 11/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]*wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kenapa turun jumlah utangnya? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 9:41 PM Bener nih di hedge? Syukurlah kl gitu, cm ko saya ragu ya? Hope bener hutangnya di hedge dah Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R) -- *From*: indriyanta s. *Date*: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:18:10 -0800 (PST) *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kenapa turun jumlah utangnya? Utangnya dihedging US $ 1 = Rp 9.200, dengan kurs sekarang Rp 12.000 berarti secara RUPIAH utangnya tetap, tetapi secara US $ berkurang. 9.200 x 967,3 = 12.000 x 742 --- On *Sat, 11/29/08, Steve Leirissa steveleirissa@ yahoo.com* wrote: From: Steve Leirissa steveleirissa@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kenapa turun jumlah utangnya? To: steveleirissa@ yahoo.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:22 AM *Sehubungan dengan itu, Direktur Keuangan BNBR Yuanita Rohali menjelaskan, utang BNBR ke Odickson semula memang mencapai US$ 967,3 juta. Namun seiring dengan melemahnya nilai tukar rupiah atas dolar AS, Yuanita mengatakan utang ke Odickson turun menjadi sekitar US$ 742 juta.http://sahamindonesia.blogdetik.com/2008/11/29/spv-bakrie-northstar-tangani-utang-ke-odickson/ * Emangnya BNBR ngutangnya pake mata uang US$ atau IDR. Kalo dari mata uang USD bukannya gak akan turun alias tetap?. Mohon penjelasan yang ngerti masalah ini ... Jelasin logikanya thx SL
[obrolan-bandar] Ancora Beli 5% Saham Bumi (ID)
Ancora Beli 5% Saham Bumi (ID) Di tengah belitan masalah yang belum tuntas, PT Bumi Resources Tbk terus diincar investor. Ancora Capital Management (Asia), perusahaan investasi Indonesia, disebutsebut telah membeli hampir 5% saham Bumi senilai US$ 75 juta.
[obrolan-bandar] INDF
Pak Artomoro mulai kerja.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Sip., mdh2an ngga pada meleng.hapy cuan !!! From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: 01 Desember 2008 8:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu. hehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS
1920 res..., kalau stabil..., next test hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sip., mdh2an ngga pada meleng.hapy cuan !!! From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: 01 Desember 2008 8:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu. hehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Pak JT apa gak tunggu well done aja PGAS nya?? Katanya suka yang Well Done?? Hehehe... Apa ini udah matang nihh Pak JT?? Sm;)e From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:45 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Sip., mdh2an ngga pada meleng.hapy cuan !!! From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: 01 Desember 2008 8:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu. hehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. __ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ __ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
setelah sebulan menunggu indf... akhirnya... 2008/12/1 jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ __ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Thank u bos, I'll do that. Good luck to you sir. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 10:08 AM kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
siap pak,..sy tunggu instruksinya d..tks From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2008 8:42:18 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu… hehe From:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah.
[obrolan-bandar] BUMI - kEPEMILIKAN BUMI YG BARU : BNBR - Northstar - Ancora , dll
Menurut saya denga adanya transaksi oleh Northstar dan Ancora maka posisi BUMI akan semakin baik KARENA AKAN di backing oleh beberapa perusahaan yg memiliki modal yg cukup besar, jadi hari ini seharusnya harga saham BUMI akan naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Iwan Tono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ancora gets up to 5 pct of Bumi Resources: source Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:02am EST Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page | Recommend (0) [-] Text [+] By Sara Webb JAKARTA (Reuters) - Ancora Capital Management (Asia), an Indonesian private equity firm, has taken a stake of up to 5 percent in coal miner Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), worth about $75 million, a person familiar with the situation said on Saturday. Bumi, Indonesia's biggest coal miner, was the prize asset in the diversified Bakrie group, which has been struggling to raise money in order to repay about $1.2 billion of debt at a time when investors are pulling out of emerging markets such as Indonesia amid a global financial crisis and credit crunch. Late on Friday night, the Bakrie group announced that most of its short-term debt problems had been settled following a deal with Indonesian private equity firm Northstar Pacific. Patrick Walujo, Northstar's founder, said the investment firm would take over a significant chunk of the $1.2 billion owed by the Bakrie group in a bid to convert it into shares in Bumi. Separately, Ancora is taking over Bumi shares that had been held by JPMorgan as collateral against a loan of $70-100 million, the person familiar with the situation told Reuters. Ancora, which is focused on investing in Indonesia's natural resources sector and infrastructure, was set up earlier this year by Gita Wirjawan, the former head of JPMorgan's (JPM.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) Indonesian business, and raised about $300 million to invest. Bumi controls two major coal mines, PT Kaltim Prima Coal and PT Arutmin Indonesia, located in Indonesia's resource-rich East Kalimantan province. Both mines produce high quality coal used in power plants. The coal-mining firm aims to sell 60 million tonnes of coal this year, or around a quarter of Indonesian output. Bumi was briefly the biggest firm by market capitalization on the Indonesian bourse when its share price peaked in June. But concerns over the Bakrie group's debts, coupled with the retreat in commodity prices and global market sell-off, knocked Bumi's share price down from an all-time high of 8,750 rupiah to a 2009 low of 640 rupiah in November, or less than one-tenth of the peak value. Bakrie Brothers (BNBR.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), the listed holding company, is controlled by the family of Indonesia's chief social welfare minister Aburizal Bakrie, and has interests in palm oil, property and telecoms. The group borrowed heavily to finance an aggressive expansion, using shares in Bumi as collateral. As Bumi's stock plunged, some creditors started to sell off shares in Bumi that had been held as collateral, depressing the share price even further, brokers said. Bumi shares on Friday closed at 1,010 rupiah, up 9.8 percent on the day. (Editing by Tomasz Janowski) From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:01:58 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MACQUARIE how will the dice roll for bakrie? (BUMI) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, bobby gosal bobby_gosal@ ... wrote: Orang engga henti henti nya mencoba menghitung nilai BUMI... Menurut pak Kidod saham BUMI di BNBR ada 19,27%, coba bandingkan ama hitungan Macquairie: - Dari pdf kiriman Pak Bobby Gosal: Menurut Macquire saham BUMI yg di repo di Oddickson ada $334 juta dollar per tgl 21/11 dengan menggunakan Last Traded price yaitu tgl laporan Macquire. Pada tgl 21/11 harga BUMI close di 710 perak. - Jadi jumlah lembah saham BUMI yg ada di Oddickson = $334 x kurs 12000/ 710 = 5,65 juta lembar atau 29%. Mana yg benar 19,27% atau 29% ?. Sepertinya yg lebih masuk akal adalah 19,27% Jadi sesudah Deal Nortstar: - Northstar punya BUMI 19,27% - BNBR punya sekitar 15% Status REPO BUMI: - Nortstar repo BUMI 19,27% ex punya BNBR dan - BNBR masih punya repo BUMI 7% dicreditur lain selain Oddickson. Jadi STATUS Repo BUMI sesudah deal Nortstar sebenarnya belum berubah. Bener engga pak Halim ?. Pak Halim gimana nasib harga BUMI sesudah CA Northstar ?. Pake TA atau CA ?. Pamer gaya dengan skin baru yang keren. Coba Yahoo! Messenger 9.0 baru sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Pak JT, Info ttg PTBA dong. Dari sisi volume masih OK kah? Resistan di 7500 ya? Juga intipin ISAt ya Regards, ND Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:42:18 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu. hehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ancora Beli 5% Saham Bumi (ID)
BLAH sayangku, sayang dikau dikelola BaBu --Beli Aset Bayar dgn Utang -- --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ancora Beli 5% Saham Bumi (ID) Di tengah belitan masalah yang belum tuntas, PT Bumi Resources Tbk terus diincar investor. Ancora Capital Management (Asia), perusahaan investasi Indonesia, disebutsebut telah membeli hampir 5% saham Bumi senilai US$ 75 juta.
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kalau Gas Sudah Habis dan Mie nya Matang, Masukin Bank Lagi. Muter2 disitu aja :) 2008/12/1, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. __ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Pak JT, PGAS matengnya di 1920 ya? 2008/12/1 rad10 ru54k [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pak JT apa gak tunggu well done aja PGAS nya?? Katanya suka yang Well Done?? Hehehe….. Apa ini udah matang nihh Pak JT?? Sm;)e *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2008 9:45 AM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Sip…, mdh2an ngga pada meleng…hapy cuan !!! *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 8:42 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu… hehe *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dreamer *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 3:22 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS
Pak JT, inflasi turun, BI rate kemungkinan turun, tapi kenapa banking ditekan ke bawah..? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1920 res..., kalau stabil..., next test hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: Sip., mdh2an ngga pada meleng.hapy cuan !!! From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: 01 Desember 2008 8:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu. hehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah kalo tembus 1920 tambah kenceng?.. Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 - an nih From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsxtrader Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ __ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
Embah, let Aimee clarify I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse. Aimee strongly recalls money market depositors TO AVOID mass withdrawal and rush in any manner and in any time next year to secure the republic from 98's nightmare again. PLEASE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. They need to maintain reserve ratio and adequate capitalization to carry on the country's financial tough challenge ahead. At least the intellectual pretty minister and the calm governor have been really working hard on this. And KPK, chase for more! I will contribute to deploy Kalingga's Special Unit Forces (KSUF) if you need some back up to restore the corruption in your republic. And IDX .. GBU, Indonesia. Amen. RATU SIMA, THE UNITED KINGDOM OF KALINGGA, JAVA. F-Off Disclaimer!
PTBA - ISAT - TLKM RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
PTBA - ngga bisa komentar.., ntar dimarahin Pak Rei..hehe ISAT - saya ngga ngikutin. TLKM - saya ketinggalan., tiap hari pasang bid ngga dikasih-kasih.., masak musti makan kanan sih?? Hehe, ngga ah.., tunggu swing aja lagi.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 Desember 2008 9:41 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Pak JT, Info ttg PTBA dong. Dari sisi volume masih OK kah? Resistan di 7500 ya? Juga intipin ISAt ya Regards, ND Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: JsxTrader Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:42:18 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu. hehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Can't disclose Pak.., ntar BD ngambek.., wah bapak sdh cuan banyak masih bingung mau exit di brp.. hehehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 Desember 2008 10:12 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah kalo tembus 1920 tambah kenceng?.. Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 - an nih .. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsxtrader Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ __ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
[obrolan-bandar] BUMI STILL ON TARGET
walau net profit bumi cuma 490.14 miliar USD namun masih diatas perkiraan estimasi laba bersih tahun 2008 dari Danareksa yg buat target price 3500 dan Citi 2700.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS
Ya.., wah kalau urusan makro, mesti minta fatwa Pak DE tuh, anyway.., ganti-gantian lah, masak mau naik terus, tapi coba intipin BBCA tuh.., h, kayaknya sih menarik. -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of y_dizz Sent: 01 Desember 2008 10:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS Pak JT, inflasi turun, BI rate kemungkinan turun, tapi kenapa banking ditekan ke bawah..?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - kEPEMILIKAN BUMI YG BARU : BNBR - Northstar - Ancora , dll
Apa bedanya dibacking 1 ataupun 1000 perusahaan, kalau sumber uangnya dari 1 tempat? Kalo Soros / Buffet yang masuk, mgk harganya akan cpt melejit, krn si bandar BUMI unlikely akan membiarkan barang murahnya disosot bandar lain.. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:26 AM, John Rull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Menurut saya denga adanya transaksi oleh Northstar dan Ancora maka posisi BUMI akan semakin baik KARENA AKAN di backing oleh beberapa perusahaan yg memiliki modal yg cukup besar, jadi hari ini seharusnya harga saham BUMI akan naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Iwan Tono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ancora gets up to 5 pct of Bumi Resources: source Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:02am EST Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page | Recommend (0) [-] Text [+] By Sara Webb JAKARTA (Reuters) - Ancora Capital Management (Asia), an Indonesian private equity firm, has taken a stake of up to 5 percent in coal miner Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), worth about $75 million, a person familiar with the situation said on Saturday. Bumi, Indonesia's biggest coal miner, was the prize asset in the diversified Bakrie group, which has been struggling to raise money in order to repay about $1.2 billion of debt at a time when investors are pulling out of emerging markets such as Indonesia amid a global financial crisis and credit crunch. Late on Friday night, the Bakrie group announced that most of its short-term debt problems had been settled following a deal with Indonesian private equity firm Northstar Pacific. Patrick Walujo, Northstar's founder, said the investment firm would take over a significant chunk of the $1.2 billion owed by the Bakrie group in a bid to convert it into shares in Bumi. Separately, Ancora is taking over Bumi shares that had been held by JPMorgan as collateral against a loan of $70-100 million, the person familiar with the situation told Reuters. Ancora, which is focused on investing in Indonesia's natural resources sector and infrastructure, was set up earlier this year by Gita Wirjawan, the former head of JPMorgan's (JPM.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) Indonesian business, and raised about $300 million to invest. Bumi controls two major coal mines, PT Kaltim Prima Coal and PT Arutmin Indonesia, located in Indonesia's resource-rich East Kalimantan province. Both mines produce high quality coal used in power plants. The coal-mining firm aims to sell 60 million tonnes of coal this year, or around a quarter of Indonesian output. Bumi was briefly the biggest firm by market capitalization on the Indonesian bourse when its share price peaked in June. But concerns over the Bakrie group's debts, coupled with the retreat in commodity prices and global market sell-off, knocked Bumi's share price down from an all-time high of 8,750 rupiah to a 2009 low of 640 rupiah in November, or less than one-tenth of the peak value. Bakrie Brothers (BNBR.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), the listed holding company, is controlled by the family of Indonesia's chief social welfare minister Aburizal Bakrie, and has interests in palm oil, property and telecoms. The group borrowed heavily to finance an aggressive expansion, using shares in Bumi as collateral. As Bumi's stock plunged, some creditors started to sell off shares in Bumi that had been held as collateral, depressing the share price even further, brokers said. Bumi shares on Friday closed at 1,010 rupiah, up 9.8 percent on the day. (Editing by Tomasz Janowski) From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:01:58 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MACQUARIE how will the dice roll for bakrie? (BUMI) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, bobby gosal bobby_gosal@ ... wrote: Orang engga henti henti nya mencoba menghitung nilai BUMI... Menurut pak Kidod saham BUMI di BNBR ada 19,27%, coba bandingkan ama hitungan Macquairie: - Dari pdf kiriman Pak Bobby Gosal: Menurut Macquire saham BUMI yg di repo di Oddickson ada $334 juta dollar per tgl 21/11 dengan menggunakan Last Traded price yaitu tgl laporan Macquire. Pada tgl 21/11 harga BUMI close di 710 perak. - Jadi jumlah lembah saham BUMI yg ada di Oddickson = $334 x kurs 12000/ 710 = 5,65 juta lembar atau 29%. Mana yg benar 19,27% atau 29% ?. Sepertinya yg lebih masuk akal adalah 19,27% Jadi sesudah Deal Nortstar: - Northstar punya BUMI 19,27% - BNBR punya sekitar 15% Status REPO BUMI: - Nortstar repo BUMI 19,27% ex punya BNBR dan - BNBR masih punya repo BUMI 7% dicreditur lain selain Oddickson. Jadi STATUS Repo BUMI sesudah deal Nortstar sebenarnya belum berubah. Bener engga pak Halim ?. Pak Halim gimana nasib harga BUMI sesudah CA Northstar ?.
[obrolan-bandar] Fw: PT Antam Tbk Newsletter | ANTAM INITIATES 500,000 TREES PLANTING PROGRAM AT ITS BUSINESS UNITS
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
and IDX the next?please? --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 10:27 AM Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse. Aimee strongly recalls money market depositors TO AVOID mass withdrawal and rush in any manner and in any time next year to secure the republic from 98's nightmare again. PLEASE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. They need to maintain reserve ratio and adequate capitalization to carry on the country's financial tough challenge ahead. At least the intellectual pretty minister and the calm governor have been really working hard on this. And KPK, chase for more! I will contribute to deploy Kalingga's Special Unit Forces (KSUF) if you need some back up to restore the corruption in your republic. And IDX….. GBU, Indonesia. Amen. RATU SIMA, THE UNITED KINGDOM OF KALINGGA, JAVA. F-Off
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
INDF - Support 1010-1020 mulai terbentuk., BD pasang barikade tebel2 di sisi offer.., takut disikat Pak Halim kaleee. hehe
Re: PTBA - ISAT - TLKM RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Ok pak JT, thanks ya. ND Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:30:03 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: PTBA - ISAT - TLKM RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS PTBA - ngga bisa komentar.., ntar dimarahin Pak Rei..hehe ISAT - saya ngga ngikutin. TLKM - saya ketinggalan., tiap hari pasang bid ngga dikasih-kasih.., masak musti makan kanan sih?? Hehe, ngga ah.., tunggu swing aja lagi.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 Desember 2008 9:41 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Pak JT, Info ttg PTBA dong. Dari sisi volume masih OK kah? Resistan di 7500 ya? Juga intipin ISAt ya Regards, ND Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: JsxTrader Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:42:18 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu. hehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: 01 Desember 2008 3:22 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
INDF 1020-1030-nya dibalokin tebel bener yak? Bisa nembus nggak nih pak? Jendral Arto harus pakai Bakso-kah untuk jebolin Indomie. he he he... 2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't disclose Pak.., ntar BD ngambek.., wah bapak sdh cuan banyak masih bingung mau exit di brp…. hehehe *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 10:12 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah kalo tembus 1920 tambah kenceng?.. Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 – an nih …. *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *jsxtrader *Sent:* Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ __ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Pak JT, UNTR
Pak JT, UNTR gimana hari ini, tolong intipin dong?
[obrolan-bandar] Global Stocks Will R ally as Prices Hit ‘Extreme’ Lows...iklan
Elaine says BULL - Ratu Sima says BEAR Biar ada yang beli dan ada yang jual yach ? Selalu bersama teman-teman di Yahoo! Messenger. Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI STILL ON TARGET
mungkin maksudnya usd$490.14 mil From: Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2008 10:34:46 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI STILL ON TARGET walau net profit bumi cuma 490.14 miliar USD namun masih diatas perkiraan estimasi laba bersih tahun 2008 dari Danareksa yg buat target price 3500 dan Citi 2700.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
INDF - lihat peta pertempuran kemarin..., dilevel itu (1020) memang
Benteng-nya BD.., kalau bisa di tembus, baru sip...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
INDF 1020-1030-nya dibalokin tebel bener yak? Bisa nembus nggak nih
pak?
Jendral Arto harus pakai Bakso-kah untuk jebolin Indomie. he he
he...
2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't disclose Pak.., ntar BD ngambek.., wah bapak sdh cuan
banyak
masih bingung mau exit di brp
. hehehe
*From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 10:12
*To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah
kalo tembus
1920 tambah kenceng?..
Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 an nih
.
*From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *jsxtrader
*Sent:* Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM
*To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan
lari,
support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD
1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well
done
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
David Hartanto
adhartanto@ wrote:
Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli
gasnya,
he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong
dimasakin.
--- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ menulis:
Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@
Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM
Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat
beli tambahan
GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto
adhartanto@ ... wrote:
Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going
bozz.
Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT?
--- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis:
Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ ..
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM
1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support...
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader
jsxtrader@ ..
wrote:
Pak Artomoro mulai kerja.
_ _ _ _ _ _
_
Nama baru untuk Anda!
Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail
dan
@rocketmail.
Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/
__
_
Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda!
Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang
lain!
http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
*Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse. Aimee strongly recalls money market depositors TO AVOID mass withdrawal and rush in any manner and in any time next year to secure the republic from 98's nightmare again. PLEASE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. They need to maintain reserve ratio and adequate
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Airnya blom mendidih pak..kan harus 100 derajat dl biar mienya langsung
mateng...hehehehe
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 11:06 PM
INDF - lihat peta pertempuran kemarin..., dilevel itu (1020) memang
Benteng-nya BD.., kalau bisa di tembus, baru sip...
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
INDF 1020-1030-nya dibalokin tebel bener yak? Bisa nembus nggak nih
pak?
Jendral Arto harus pakai Bakso-kah untuk jebolin Indomie. he he
he...
2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
Can't disclose Pak.., ntar BD ngambek.., wah bapak sdh cuan
banyak
masih bingung mau exit di brp…. hehehe
*From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
*Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 10:12
*To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
*Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah
kalo tembus
1920 tambah kenceng?..
Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 – an nih ….
*From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *jsxtrader
*Sent:* Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM
*To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
*Subject:* Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan
lari,
support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD
1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well
done
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups. com,
David Hartanto
adhartanto@ wrote:
Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli
gasnya,
he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong
dimasakin.
--- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ menulis:
Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@
Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
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Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM
Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat
beli tambahan
GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto
adhartanto@ ... wrote:
Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going
bozz.
Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT?
--- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis:
Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ ..
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM
1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support...
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jsxtrader@ ..
wrote:
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Ok PaSUKAN Pak Halim mulai bergerak
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jsxtrader
Sent: 01 Desember 2008 11:06
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
INDF - lihat peta pertempuran kemarin..., dilevel itu (1020) memang
Benteng-nya BD.., kalau bisa di tembus, baru sip...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
INDF 1020-1030-nya dibalokin tebel bener yak? Bisa nembus nggak nih
pak?
Jendral Arto harus pakai Bakso-kah untuk jebolin Indomie. he he
he...
2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't disclose Pak.., ntar BD ngambek.., wah bapak sdh cuan
banyak
masih bingung mau exit di brp.. hehehe
*From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 10:12
*To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah
kalo tembus
1920 tambah kenceng?..
Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 - an nih ..
*From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *jsxtrader
*Sent:* Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM
*To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan
lari,
support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD
1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well
done
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
David Hartanto
adhartanto@ wrote:
Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli
gasnya,
he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong
dimasakin.
--- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ menulis:
Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@
Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM
Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat
beli tambahan
GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto
adhartanto@ ... wrote:
Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going
bozz.
Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT?
--- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis:
Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ ..
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM
1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support...
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader
jsxtrader@ ..
wrote:
Pak Artomoro mulai kerja.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Airnya blom mendidih pak..kan harus 100 derajat dl biar mienya langsung
mateng...hehehehe
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 11:06 PM
INDF - lihat peta pertempuran kemarin..., dilevel itu (1020) memang
Benteng-nya BD.., kalau bisa di tembus, baru sip...
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
INDF 1020-1030-nya dibalokin tebel bener yak? Bisa nembus nggak nih
pak?
Jendral Arto harus pakai Bakso-kah untuk jebolin Indomie. he he
he...
2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
Can't disclose Pak.., ntar BD ngambek.., wah bapak sdh cuan
banyak
masih bingung mau exit di brp…. hehehe
*From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
*Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 10:12
*To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
*Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah
kalo tembus
1920 tambah kenceng?..
Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 – an nih ….
*From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *jsxtrader
*Sent:* Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM
*To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
*Subject:* Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan
lari,
support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD
1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well
done
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups. com,
David Hartanto
adhartanto@ wrote:
Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli
gasnya,
he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong
dimasakin.
--- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ menulis:
Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@
Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM
Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat
beli tambahan
GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto
adhartanto@ ... wrote:
Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going
bozz.
Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT?
--- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis:
Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ ..
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM
1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support...
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader
jsxtrader@ ..
wrote:
Pak Artomoro mulai kerja.
_ _ _ _ _ _
_
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Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:( to JSXTRADER) PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend
Koq 'ga NYAMBUNG..ya? Tetap pake istilah biasa yang logika aja dech... Tembak = BUY masuk sasaran TEMBAK = masuk area BUY BD mana bisa dikasih kamuflase...? Yang ada cuma bikin kesasar pelurunya.. 2008/11/30 FromBuitenzorg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wah gak mungkin diambil 6500 - 7000 kata sandi memang perlu diubah sebaliknya spy tdk diketahui lawan hehehe.. Lagi coba ngintip ISAT RR nya agak kurang lebar, tapi fundamental bisnis ekonominya punya potensi bagus kalau digabung dg IM2 ! Nanti senen minta intipin temen Senen ribet banget. Ohh istilah BLAH konotasinya jadi negatif BLAH... BELAH... DIBELAH ..:-) Regards Old 'Soldier' JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IC, hampir kemarin ane tembak (buy) di 6500-7000.., hehehe, maklum Pak, biasa pake istilah sebaliknya.., tembak=BUY.., masuk sasaran tembak=masuk area BUY, dst..., untung saya nanya dulu, kalau ngga, kita bisa main tembak-tembakan haha.. BTW, ada istilah baru tuh di OB BLAH.. hehe Regards, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg Sent: 30 Nopember 2008 20:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re:( to JSXTRADER) PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend OK Boss, untuk menyamakan persepsi pengertian kata sandi sasaran tembak itu dianalogkan dg punya peluru, peluru itu saham yg kita pegang, siap dimuntahkan pada saat yg tepat atau sell atau exit pada feasible price target, apalagi kalau sebelumnya pernah loss, kita targetkan sasaran tembak dg target lebih besar vs previous loss. Kalau resitant range (RR) kondisi dimana pada rentang tertentu misal 6500 - 7000 punya kemungkinan tidak akan ber-lama2 pada posisi tsb dan lower basenya akan jatuh dibawah 6500, akan tetapi kalau sentimen pasar atau respon pasar positif, apalagi ada yg butuh stocks tsb, maka upper resitennya akan menembus melampai yang 7000. Kata sandi lain yg pernah sy posting hari rabu mlm tgl 26/11, agar player yg berani take a risk siap2 jadi pemulung (Jadi Pemulung antara Biru-Merah) kemungkinan (besar) gain besok atau lusa menjadi negatif, maksudnya kalau hari rabu posisi saham yg kita unggulkan gain positif/biru ternyata pd hari kamis berubah jadi 'merah', coba ambil resiko yg sdh diperhitungkan, ya yg merah itu take saja untuk persediaan amunisi berikutnya dan menyiapkan target tembak baru. Ternyata yg diunggulkan hari kamis memang merah, tetapi berubah menjadi biru pada hari jum'at tgl 28 kemaren. Game saham itu kadang2 layaknya main catur. See u in the next sharing.. Regards, Old Soldier JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: Pak, Saya lihat bapak sering pake istilah 'sasaran tembak', maksudnya itu range utk jual apa beli Pak?.., sekedar ingin menyamakan persepsi. Thanks Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg Sent: 29 Nopember 2008 23:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Enak Buat Weekend Have a nice weekend Terima kasih Pak Ruzli, salam kenal. Wah iseng2 pengen buka obrolan bandar malam ini di kamar setelah capek jalan2 liburan di Ygykrta. Buka internet pakai Indosatm2 unlimmited 100 rb/bln kenceng juga jadi ingat ISAT, ada hubungan IM2 dg Indosat? ISAT ternyata lagi high ya. Share sih bisa aja pak, tetapi ilmu bapak lebih tinggi, saya sih bukan apa2nya, malu2in hehehe. Saya pikir basiknya masih sekitar chart2 yg tidak jauh dari fibinacci, candle stick, volume analysis dan sebagainya. Mungkin saya sendiri lebih suka pakai faktor koreksi angka sendiri terhadap chart maupun value. Bahkan intuisi yg melintas. Pada dasarnya saya males kalkulasi yg rumit, paling liat tren dan chartingnya, tarik garis. Tetapi setiap rumor, sentimen pasar punya nilai koreksi, indikator kemungkinan goreng, angkat-banting yg mungkin sah2 saja ? perlu diberi faktor koreksi dengen rentang nilai tertentu. Itu bisa dicoba pak,lama2 biasa dg koreksi sendiri dan tidak harus terpaku indikator atau trend pada chart standard. Sayapun tidak hebat2 amat, biasa dan low level. Ngak tau senen nanti bisa posting atau sibuk. Regards Old Soldier + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date:
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Mantap Pak JT. Saya kebetulan ngikut dari angka dibawah itu. Nunggu instruksi selanjutnya nih 2008/12/1 David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank u bos, I'll do that. Good luck to you sir. --- Pada *Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]* menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 10:08 AM kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ -- Jatuh cinta itu seperti apa ya rasanya? http://id.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aq66bQhFy7sa9ckgheu3rETJRAx.;_ylv=3?qid=20080123200658AAOcxGm Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! -- Darwin Gunawan
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - kEPEMILIKAN BUMI YG BARU : BNBR - Northstar - Ancora , dll
Yakin nih Pak ,sumber uang nya dari satu tempat?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hendra Susanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apa bedanya dibacking 1 ataupun 1000 perusahaan, kalau sumber uangnya dari 1 tempat? Kalo Soros / Buffet yang masuk, mgk harganya akan cpt melejit, krn si bandar BUMI unlikely akan membiarkan barang murahnya disosot bandar lain.. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:26 AM, John Rull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Menurut saya denga adanya transaksi oleh Northstar dan Ancora maka posisi BUMI akan semakin baik KARENA AKAN di backing oleh beberapa perusahaan yg memiliki modal yg cukup besar, jadi hari ini seharusnya harga saham BUMI akan naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Iwan Tono suami_nyoba@ wrote: Ancora gets up to 5 pct of Bumi Resources: source Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:02am EST Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page | Recommend (0) [-] Text [+] By Sara Webb JAKARTA (Reuters) - Ancora Capital Management (Asia), an Indonesian private equity firm, has taken a stake of up to 5 percent in coal miner Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), worth about $75 million, a person familiar with the situation said on Saturday. Bumi, Indonesia's biggest coal miner, was the prize asset in the diversified Bakrie group, which has been struggling to raise money in order to repay about $1.2 billion of debt at a time when investors are pulling out of emerging markets such as Indonesia amid a global financial crisis and credit crunch. Late on Friday night, the Bakrie group announced that most of its short-term debt problems had been settled following a deal with Indonesian private equity firm Northstar Pacific. Patrick Walujo, Northstar's founder, said the investment firm would take over a significant chunk of the $1.2 billion owed by the Bakrie group in a bid to convert it into shares in Bumi. Separately, Ancora is taking over Bumi shares that had been held by JPMorgan as collateral against a loan of $70-100 million, the person familiar with the situation told Reuters. Ancora, which is focused on investing in Indonesia's natural resources sector and infrastructure, was set up earlier this year by Gita Wirjawan, the former head of JPMorgan's (JPM.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) Indonesian business, and raised about $300 million to invest. Bumi controls two major coal mines, PT Kaltim Prima Coal and PT Arutmin Indonesia, located in Indonesia's resource-rich East Kalimantan province. Both mines produce high quality coal used in power plants. The coal-mining firm aims to sell 60 million tonnes of coal this year, or around a quarter of Indonesian output. Bumi was briefly the biggest firm by market capitalization on the Indonesian bourse when its share price peaked in June. But concerns over the Bakrie group's debts, coupled with the retreat in commodity prices and global market sell-off, knocked Bumi's share price down from an all-time high of 8,750 rupiah to a 2009 low of 640 rupiah in November, or less than one-tenth of the peak value. Bakrie Brothers (BNBR.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), the listed holding company, is controlled by the family of Indonesia's chief social welfare minister Aburizal Bakrie, and has interests in palm oil, property and telecoms. The group borrowed heavily to finance an aggressive expansion, using shares in Bumi as collateral. As Bumi's stock plunged, some creditors started to sell off shares in Bumi that had been held as collateral, depressing the share price even further, brokers said. Bumi shares on Friday closed at 1,010 rupiah, up 9.8 percent on the day. (Editing by Tomasz Janowski) From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:01:58 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MACQUARIE how will the dice roll for bakrie? (BUMI) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, bobby gosal bobby_gosal@ ... wrote: Orang engga henti henti nya mencoba menghitung nilai BUMI... Menurut pak Kidod saham BUMI di BNBR ada 19,27%, coba bandingkan ama hitungan Macquairie: - Dari pdf kiriman Pak Bobby Gosal: Menurut Macquire saham BUMI yg di repo di Oddickson ada $334 juta dollar per tgl 21/11 dengan menggunakan Last Traded price yaitu tgl laporan Macquire. Pada tgl 21/11 harga BUMI close di 710 perak. - Jadi jumlah lembah saham BUMI yg ada di Oddickson = $334 x kurs 12000/ 710 = 5,65 juta lembar atau 29%. Mana yg benar 19,27% atau 29% ?. Sepertinya yg lebih masuk akal adalah 19,27% Jadi sesudah Deal Nortstar: - Northstar punya BUMI 19,27% - BNBR punya sekitar 15% Status REPO BUMI: - Nortstar repo BUMI
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
Wha ... the battle between two princess On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine* * * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse. Aimee strongly recalls money market depositors TO AVOID mass withdrawal and rush in any manner and in any time next year to
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
Psycological War will be Begin Noww. hehehehhe who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh.. for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify... Mbahhhtulung ni... sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima.. Thnks yaa mbahhh From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 11:06:06 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and
Balasan: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
mestinya pasukan gerak cepat nih yg harus maju. kalo pasukan gerilya susah menang. hajar ke jantung pertahanan, kemudian duduki. JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok PaSUKAN Pak Halim mulai bergerak -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsxtrader Sent: 01 Desember 2008 11:06 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF INDF - lihat peta pertempuran kemarin..., dilevel itu (1020) memang Benteng-nya BD.., kalau bisa di tembus, baru sip... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INDF 1020-1030-nya dibalokin tebel bener yak? Bisa nembus nggak nih pak? Jendral Arto harus pakai Bakso-kah untuk jebolin Indomie. he he he... 2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't disclose Pak.., ntar BD ngambek.., wah bapak sdh cuan banyak masih bingung mau exit di brp.. hehehe *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 10:12 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah kalo tembus 1920 tambah kenceng?.. Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 - an nih .. *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *jsxtrader *Sent:* Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ __ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM DISCLAIMER ON - Pemerintahan yang jujur
RE: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
Retail jadi pada bingung pusing, perlu minum obat dulu nih….., hehe tuh BUMI digebuk…, kalau yg lain ngikut…, kesempatan bagus buat scalping…. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yanuar Mustofa Sent: 01 Desember 2008 11:19 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) Psycological War will be Begin Noww. hehehehhe who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh.. for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify... Mbahhhtulung ni... sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima.. Thnks yaa mbahhh
Re: PTBA - ISAT - TLKM RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Waduh mana berani saya marahin komandan?... 2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] PTBA – ngga bisa komentar.., ntar dimarahin Pak Rei….hehe ISAT – saya ngga ngikutin… TLKM - saya ketinggalan…, tiap hari pasang bid ngga dikasih-kasih.., masak musti makan kanan sih?? Hehe, ngga ah.., tunggu swing aja lagi.. *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 9:41 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Pak JT, Info ttg PTBA dong. Dari sisi volume masih OK kah? Resistan di 7500 ya? Juga intipin ISAt ya Regards, ND Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R) -- *From*: JsxTrader *Date*: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:42:18 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Cermati aja terus.., jangan meleng, biarin BD bekerja dgn tenang, jangan di ganggu dgn chart dulu… hehe *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dreamer *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 3:22 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] PGAS Dear P.Jsx, mohon info chart PGAS-nya...dari kemarin bolak balik aja tuh. tks yah. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
RE: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
mmm.. Sapa yg bakal jadi pemenang niih?? My money's on Elaine!!! Hehehe.. Go Elaine!! Sm;)e From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:06 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify. I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
fiuhhh... full jualan today... ntar sore icip2... gimana raja copet mr JT? 2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Retail jadi pada bingung pusing, perlu minum obat dulu nih….., hehe tuh BUMI digebuk…, kalau yg lain ngikut…, kesempatan bagus buat scalping…. *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Yanuar Mustofa *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 11:19 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) Psycological War will be Begin Noww. hehehehhe who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh.. for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify... Mbahhhtulung ni... sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima.. Thnks yaa mbahhh
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
Wah seru nih, Ratu vs. panglima EL... battle of the fatal females! Mantap...my money is on EL :) On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine* * * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse. Aimee strongly recalls money market depositors TO AVOID mass withdrawal and rush
Re: Balasan: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF
Boss JT, NONGKRONG nya tolong majuin dikit :) Pada tanggal 01/12/08, artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: mestinya pasukan gerak cepat nih yg harus maju. kalo pasukan gerilya susah menang. hajar ke jantung pertahanan, kemudian duduki. *JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Ok PaSUKAN Pak Halim mulai bergerak -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsxtrader Sent: 01 Desember 2008 11:06 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF INDF - lihat peta pertempuran kemarin..., dilevel itu (1020) memang Benteng-nya BD.., kalau bisa di tembus, baru sip... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INDF 1020-1030-nya dibalokin tebel bener yak? Bisa nembus nggak nih pak? Jendral Arto harus pakai Bakso-kah untuk jebolin Indomie. he he he... 2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't disclose Pak.., ntar BD ngambek.., wah bapak sdh cuan banyak masih bingung mau exit di brp.. hehehe *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 10:12 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Jad PGAS well done nya diberapa nih, Pak JT ? 1920 ? Ato malah kalo tembus 1920 tambah kenceng?.. Saya masih pegang di harga 1700 - an nih .. *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *jsxtrader *Sent:* Monday, 1 December 2008 1:09 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF kalau ketinggalan, tongkrongin dibawah.., kalau digebuk jangan lari, support terdekat 1860.., kemungkinan akan di test BD 1920 kalau jebol baru sip.., sekarang masih rare, masih belum well done --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ wrote: Ok deh, mang mantap kalo masaknya pake gas. Saya lupa beli gasnya, he..he..he.. jadi mesti numpang ke yang lain untuk minta tolong dimasakin. --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:55 AM Pan hari jumat kemarin saya ambil duit dari BANK buat beli tambahan GAS supaya MIE nya cepet mateng hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, David Hartanto adhartanto@ ... wrote: Ha..ha..ha.. akhirnya mie nya dimasak juga. Good, keep going bozz. Sudah buyback lagi Pak JT? --- Pada Sen, 1/12/08, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. menulis: Dari: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .. Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 1 Desember, 2008, 9:42 AM 1020 res.. mdh2an jadi support... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ .. wrote: Pak Artomoro mulai kerja. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ __ _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
Hm ..OBAT=KLXX 2008/12/1, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Retail jadi pada bingung pusing, perlu minum obat dulu nih….., hehe tuh BUMI digebuk…, kalau yg lain ngikut…, kesempatan bagus buat scalping…. *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Yanuar Mustofa *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 11:19 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) Psycological War will be Begin Noww. hehehehhe who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh.. for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify... Mbahhhtulung ni... sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima.. Thnks yaa mbahhh
[obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
Blah. jagat MILIS OB mulai rame. BUY MORE !!! artomoro9 (dont sell anything) ps: (trio macan jogetnya bikin melayang) Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the people can help save the next generation from
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
The good SHOW just began.. Watch closely guys 2008/12/1 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Retail jadi pada bingung pusing, perlu minum obat dulu nih….., hehe tuh BUMI digebuk…, kalau yg lain ngikut…, kesempatan bagus buat scalping…. *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Yanuar Mustofa *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 11:19 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) Psycological War will be Begin Noww. hehehehhe who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh.. for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify... Mbahhhtulung ni... sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima.. Thnks yaa mbahhh
[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
kalau banyak yg bilang buy pertanda stagnan nih hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blah. jagat MILIS OB mulai rame. BUY MORE !!! artomoro9 (dont sell anything) ps: (trio macan jogetnya bikin melayang) Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify⦠I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean
[obrolan-bandar] BUMI Update Q3/2008 + Coal sector comparison updade
BUMI Update Q3/2008 + Coal sector comparison updade Q3/2008 Result: SOLID !!! Liat di: http://www.investdata.net
[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
the deal is cut the big ball or the tiny ball? :) 2008/12/1 pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
*You mean 12k in 6 months? llloolll.. ^_^ kinda too much to ask but who knows? Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting
