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Ok sorry, do not wish to expose anyone...just enthusiastic. A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Sunday, 31 December 2006 8:21 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] For Sue Amy, the Sue you are thinking of is also on this list. You will recognize her from her comments. You have spoken to her before. She may not want to be outed. Happy New Year MM Ahh...Ok. I must have, I got the two Sue's mixed up. You just never know in cyber world, you could be talking to your next door neighbor and never know! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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We have a new record... http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200612/s1819736.htm I hope for her sake she has plenty of energy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Oh dear, look at the subliminal message in this photo. The baby bottle feeding and held remotely frm the mother's body, sigh. Doesn't that show the source of the disconnection so rampant in our society sadly, Carolyn - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: [C-Aware] (no subject) http://seven.com.au/todaytonight/story/?id=30477 Caesareans and circumcisions REPORTER: Jackie Quist BROADCAST DATE: December 19, 2006 Researchers are looking again at whether circumcision can reduce the spread of AIDS, and whether caesarean section births create extra risks. Two of the most emotive and contentious medical issues affecting most Australian families are caesarean births and whether to circumcise boys. Now experts say new research may change the way we think about both. National spokesperson for the Caesarean Awareness Network, Cas McCulloch, says up to 29 per cent of Australia's childbirths are now caesarean sections. It is an increasing rate that suggests Australia is on the way to having one-in-three babies entering the world in an operating theatre. Of course, some caesareans are a medical necessity. Some are the mother's choice and others are recommended by the treating doctor. Anecdotally, we hear stories that actually confirm that that is the case, Ms McCulloch said. We know that litigation plays a really important role in doctors' decisions to prefer caesareans. We also know that a lot of doctors think caesareans are safer. After two natural births, Karen Hindle was told she had placenta previa. There was no option but to have baby Sarah by caesarean. It worked out really well as far as the child was concerned, but for me, I was very sick for about two/two and a half months, Karen said. ADVERTISEMENT Karen can't understand why anyone would elect to have a caesarean. I could barely stand for the first six weeks, she said. I could only stand at five minute intervals and then I was on the couch, or on the bed, for the rest of the time. It would take me a bit to psych myself up for the shower, so it was a bit horrific. Ms McCulloch claimed there were other possible downsides to caesareans. There's a longer stay in hospital, there's a risk of respiratory distress for the baby, there's a higher risk of breastfeeding complications, she said. There's a risk that the baby might be cut during the surgery, there's a risk that your other organs might be cut during the surgery, there's a number of risks. Severe bleeding was another risk. Studies now show that one-in-155 women needed a hysterectomy after their first caesarean birth, with the risk rising to one-in-40 after the fourth. If you have a baby boy, there's the issue of circumcision. The trend these days is not to circumcise, but Melbourne University's Dr. Roger Short said the debate needed to be re-examined. The new evidence that has come through should make everyone turn around and do a complete rethink, he said. This month, the results of a large, two year study conducted in Africa showed circumcised men almost halved their risk of contracting the HIV virus. The suggestion was this age old practice may be the most effective weapon against a scourge that now plagues some Third World countries. Karen and Keith McFarlane were among the 10 per cent of Australian parents who circumcise their sons. The procedure takes only one minute, but does carry a risk of bleeding and infection. In Australia, a child dies every five years from a botched procedure. According to Dr. George Williams from Circumcision Information Australia, it is a practice the country simply cannot justify. The ethics is, do doctors have the right to alter a penis that is normal, and by surgical means? Dr Williams said. I don't think that can be ethically justified. Disclaimer The information on yahoo7.com.au/todaytonight is made available for information purposes only, and is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Also, the accuracy, currency and completeness of the information is not guaranteed. The Seven Network does not accept any liability for any injury, loss or damage incurred by use of or reliance on the information. -- ___ 'The C-Aware list exists to promote discussion about caesarean birth and VBAC, and to provide space for all interested parties to take part in this discussion. The contents of emails sent through the C-Aware list are confidential and are for the sole purpose of free and frank discussion of the issues women are confronted with when approaching caesarean, or birth after caesarean. Birthrites holds no responsibility
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david tonkin wrote: I have just been welcomed to the list what now ok, I know logically that there must be many Dave Tonkins in the world, but I have to ask if this particular David Tonkin ever taught high school? Welcome to the list anyways, hope you have fun cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women’s Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer – Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Testing - are mails going missing again? I posted one 3 times and it has not appeared in my in box, also very few posts these past 3 days Sue
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5322782.stm More deaths for caesarean babies Babies born by caesarean are nearly three times more likely to die in the first month than those born naturally, US research shows. The findings, based on over 5.7 million births, are particularly important given the growing trend of women opting for caesareans, say the authors. More than one in five of all British babies are now born by caesarean. The Birth journal study included women with no obvious medical risks who had elected to have a caesarean. Higher risk Even after adjusting the results for social and medical differences among the women, babies born by caesarean were still at more than twice the risk of dying in the first month of life. From 1998 to 2001, the death rate among those delivered by caesarean was 1.77 per 1,000 live births compared to 0.62 for vaginal deliveries. This is a relatively small risk but it is there and people need to know that Professor James Walker of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Generally, neonatal deaths are rare for low-risk women, in the order of one death per 1,000 live births, according to the lead researcher Dr Marian MacDorman of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. However, the study only include babies that were born alive, which the researchers said would change the results. Had stillbirths been included, the risk of vaginal deliveries would have been closer to that of caesarean deliveries. Also, the deliveries in the study ranged from 37 weeks' gestation to full-term or 41 weeks. In the UK, planned caesarean sections are performed after 39 weeks' gestation because it is known that deliveries earlier than this carry a higher risk to the baby. And the risks of both types of delivery are still extremely small. Explanation The researchers suggest that the process of labour helps prepare the baby for life outside of the womb. As well as squeezing fluid out of the lungs, it may promote the release of hormones that encourage healthy lung function. Dr MacDormac said: "Labour is an important part of the birthing process because it gets infants ready to breathe air and function outside the womb." Professor James Walker, consultant obstetrician at St James's University Hospital in Leeds and spokesman for the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, said women should not be alarmed by the findings but should be informed. "The absolute risk is still very small. "But it should open people up to the fact that there are risks and benefits of everything. This is a relatively small risk but it is there and people need to know that." Belinda Phipps of the National Childbirth Trust said: "I think that the study does need to be taken pretty seriously." She said that earlier studies had already hinted that babies born by caesarean are more likely to experience breathing problems.
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Hi, would everyone mind thinking about how they write the subject of their postings and being more specific. I love to keep many of them for future reference but find it so hard to find what i am looking for later...too many say "article for your interest" "question from consumer" etc Thankyou Suzi. PS if anyone still has reference to the past posting a few months ago (?) re:study into using a shorter but more aggressive synto augmentation regimen to decrease c/s rates -(if i remember correctly) i'd love to see it again (note this posting may have had a spectacularly well worded title but my filing systemobviously needs more refining)
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Thankyou for everyone's insight. Iam lucky that i have my own midwife at Northern Women's, and can choose to start having a homebirth and if i don't feel safe iam booked in to a birthcentre. I think i will chat to her next visit about the birth i attended and do some debriefing. Iam preparing mentally and physically by going to yoga and aqua classes. Thanks again
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Hi Kate, I was meant to finish my degree last year, just doing my catch-ups and then i can register. I thought that i would feel more safe at home, but again after that experience and the birth getting closer i'm not so sure. My partner is supportive of wherever i choose to birth. He's left the decision up to me. We are going through Northern Women's so our only option is the Lyell McEwin in there birthcentre, high side or home ofcourse. Iam happy to gothere as i've had a taste of most of the midwifery units in Adelaide, and felt that the Lyell suited me. But i also didn't think i would need to think about it, as i was keen to have a homebirth. Cheers Nat
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Hi all, I have just started working at a new health facility that tends to give hep B injections on day 2 or 3. I have come from a facility that gives hep B at birth when vitamin k is given. Can anyone shed some light as to why the might do it this way. Any articles. They seem to not know why they do it. I just want to change practice so that can be done at the same time as the vitamin k. Thanks. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hi all wise women, I know this is something already widely discussed, but at work this morning we were discussing redeveloping our breastfeeding policy. A hot debate occurred in relation to timing of the first breastfeed. In particular if the baby does not show interest in feeding in the first few hours, length of time before we start interfering. 6 hours was being tossed around before doing BSL's, NGT feeding, gastric lavage etc. I was wondering if anyone had any links or references at hand to support allowing the healthy term baby to go longer and to have his first breastfeed when he is ready. Thanks Melissa
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Hi all,I am a newly graduated Midwife, who has her first lot of night shift (5 shifts) coming up.Does anyone have a tips for me? How to sleep best during the day, how to stay awake and alert during the night?Thanks On Yahoo!7 Messenger: Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas.
Re: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction
- Original Message - From: adamnamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:32 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction -snip- Is the failed induction-requiring C/s rate really around 50%? -snip- It certainly isn't where I work! In our tertiary level hospital we have about 100 IOL per month, of them fewer than 5 would be 'failed inductions.' We have a horrendously high CS rate of about 30%, that includes elective, emergency, prems, high risk, the lot. Our last stats from, I think 2003, showed IOLs resulting in CS at something like 32% Monica -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Amy asks Is the failed induction-requiring C/s rate really around 50%? Monica replies no, IOLs resulting in CS at something like 32% Ooo-err! Not a ½ only 1/3. Still a lot of inductions result in C/s. I see Amys dilemma. According to the medical advice she has ¼ chance of stillbirth if she doesnt have an early induction, 1/3 chance of C/S if she does. I can see why women would throw in the towel and choose elective C/S. At least it is a sure thing without the last minute drama. MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscrib
Re: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction
Dear all re IOL and c/s. two australian authors have looked at c/s with epidural block. both concluded it is around 60% with edb. bothauthors tracy et al and shorten and shorten (university of wollongong) found it to be at 60% not 50% and the latter researchers found this to be so regardless of whether there was IOL or not. Sally-Anne - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction Amy asks "Is the "failed induction-requiring C/s" rate really around 50%?" Monica replies "no, IOLs resulting in CS at something like 32%" Ooo-err! Not a ½ only 1/3. Still a lot of inductions result in C/s. I see Amys dilemma. According to the medical advice she has ¼ chance of stillbirth if she doesnt have an early induction, 1/3 chance of C/S if she does. I can see why women would throw in the towel and choose elective C/S. At least it is a sure thing without the last minute drama. MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscrib No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006
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Hi Sally-Anne, do you have refs for those studies? Cheers, J - Original Message - From: Sally-Anne Brown To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction Dear all re IOL and c/s. two australian authors have looked at c/s with epidural block. both concluded it is around 60% with edb. bothauthors tracy et al and shorten and shorten (university of wollongong) found it to be at 60% not 50% and the latter researchers found this to be so regardless of whether there was IOL or not. Sally-Anne - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction Amy asks "Is the "failed induction-requiring C/s" rate really around 50%?" Monica replies "no, IOLs resulting in CS at something like 32%" Ooo-err! Not a ½ only 1/3. Still a lot of inductions result in C/s. I see Amys dilemma. According to the medical advice she has ¼ chance of stillbirth if she doesnt have an early induction, 1/3 chance of C/S if she does. I can see why women would throw in the towel and choose elective C/S. At least it is a sure thing without the last minute drama. MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscrib No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction
Actually what I said is that *where I work* the C/s rate from IOL is hardly distinguishable from the total C/S rate. That's in a tertiary hospital. I don't know where this mother is planning to have her baby but I would hope the risk of C/S would be far lower in a peripheral hospital. Monica - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction Amy asks Is the failed induction-requiring C/s rate really around 50%? Monica replies no, IOLs resulting in CS at something like 32% Ooo-err! Not a ½ only 1/3. Still a lot of inductions result in C/s. I see Amy's dilemma. According to the medical advice she has ¼ chance of stillbirth if she doesn't have an early induction, 1/3 chance of C/S if she does. I can see why women would throw in the towel and choose elective C/S. At least it is a sure thing without the last minute drama. MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscrib -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction
Yes - that comparison is madein the study by Shorten Shorten - not sure of the demographic - but likely to be in NSW. SA xo - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction So to clarify, you mean that C/S is 60% in labours with Epidural regardless of whether it was spontaneous labour or Induction? MM Sally-Anne wrote:re IOL and c/s.two australian authors have looked at c/s with epidural block. both concluded it is around 60% with edb. bothauthors tracy et al and shorten and shorten (university of wollongong) found it to be at 60% not 50% and the latter researchers found this to be so regardless of whether there was IOL or not. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006
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Yes ...as in contacts ... not sure where published (and if published yet) 1) Sally Tracy et al .. presented at the Midwife Unit Day Newcastle Uni November 2005. (contact Sally for details of publication - possibly cited in smaller units paper published dec 2005 BJOG.[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Allison and Brett Shorten (presented at conference Melbourne late 2005). Probably unpublished at this point but you can email Allison also to get an update on this [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind Regards Sally-Anne - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction Hi Sally-Anne, do you have refs for those studies? Cheers, J - Original Message - From: Sally-Anne Brown To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction Dear all re IOL and c/s. two australian authors have looked at c/s with epidural block. both concluded it is around 60% with edb. bothauthors tracy et al and shorten and shorten (university of wollongong) found it to be at 60% not 50% and the latter researchers found this to be so regardless of whether there was IOL or not. Sally-Anne - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction Amy asks "Is the "failed induction-requiring C/s" rate really around 50%?" Monica replies "no, IOLs resulting in CS at something like 32%" Ooo-err! Not a ½ only 1/3. Still a lot of inductions result in C/s. I see Amys dilemma. According to the medical advice she has ¼ chance of stillbirth if she doesnt have an early induction, 1/3 chance of C/S if she does. I can see why women would throw in the towel and choose elective C/S. At least it is a sure thing without the last minute drama. MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscrib No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006
[ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction
Title: Message Just seeking some advice from midwives out there-I know I will most likely forget to ask all of these when I go to the antenatal clinic or have my next midwife visit I am 35+something weeks and have started to show signs of cholestasis over the past few weeks. Blood results are fluctuating a bit they go high and the next one is about normal and then high again. I am preparing for the eventuality of an induced hospital birth (though still hoping to go into labor at home in the 36th week) Some part of me wants to be induced now so I dont have to deal with the stress of that stillbirth stat. anyway Can someone tell me? 1) Is it the syntocin in the IV that poses the greatest threat to me/we in terms of uterine hyper stimulation and fetal distress or can the prostaglandin gel and ARM cause that too? 2) Is the failed induction-requiring C/s rate really around 50%? Is there anything that I can do to minimize that risk if I am induced? Like staying up, walking around, asking to be left alone, requesting minimal monitoring that sort of stuff. And will they let me do that at a large teaching hosp? (I have the dream of asking to be left alone and sneaking off to the bathroom and giving birth in the water quietly without any interference--dont like my chances!) How much negotiating power do women really have in this circumstance? My view is that ultimately its my body, my baby, and my birth but I dont want to make it hard for us all by being hard line at a time when I need to go inside and give birth (I can see that back-firing on me). Its just hard to work out what the important stuff is-it all seems so important! Amy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 3/2/2006
[ozmidwifery] Re: on the subject of induction/cholestasis
Hi Amy, Here are two articles you should read about Cholestasis. One is off this list and the other is from http://www.birthlove.com Gloria in Canada What Is Obstetric Cholestasis? -by Natalie Forbes Dash Homebirth Access Sydney Blue Mountains Homebirth Support CHOLESTASIS is a liver condition that involves pruritis (itching) and increased bile acid levels in the last trimester of pregnancy. Approximately 1% of pregnant women have this condition, which continues until delivery. Babies have an increased chance of meconium stained amniotic fluid, foetal distress, spontaneous preterm delivery and a 1 in 4 chance of being stillborn. Subsequent pregnancies are usually affected, getting worse with each. Quite often symptoms go unrecognised in first pregnancies, increasing babies risks. Cholestasis is caused by a blockage. When the liver has little capacity for absorption or excretion of bile, some of the normally excreted bile acids cause partial destruction of the liver cell membrane, allowing the toxins to enter the blood. Little is known, but there is evidence to show that oestrogen plays a large role. Patients with increased oestrogen levels, such as those carrying twins, have an increased incidence of the disease.There is also a chance that cholestasis could be hereditary. Symptoms may be difficult to diagnose until the patient is very sick., but if women and caregivers are aware of cholestasis it can be controlled. Pruritis (itching) usually starts on the soles of the feet and the palms, extending to the rest of the body. In some severe cases it can involve the face, ears, mouth and head. Itching is at its worst throughout the night, leading to sleep deprivation, exhaustion and physical and mental fatigue. Mild jaundice is shown in about 20% of patients and some babies are born jaundiced. Nausea and vomiting can be present throughout pregnancy, and 50% of mothers get urinary tract infections at the onset. In severe cases a cough may come on in the earlier stages before itching begins. Approximately 80% of patients show rises in liver levels after 30 weeks gestation. More severe cases come on earlier, last longer and have extreme symptoms, i.e. prickles, stinging, pain in the head and an increased chance of fatty liver disease, putting mother at risk. Although the outcome is mostly good for mum, this disease frequently leads to malabsorption of vitamins, worsening maternal nutrition status. Cholestasis has about a 20% risk of postpartum haemorrhage and the tendency towards bleeding may be caused by inadequate absorption of vitamin K, which is needed for the blood to clot. So far the treatments available to us are undesirable. We are only offered ways of suppressing the symptoms and the treatments only work if diagnosed early enough, or if it's a mild case and still side effects are not known. I was offered antihistamines and tranquillisers to supposedly help with pruritis, steroids to mature my baby's lungs and an induction or caesarean after establishment of foetal lung maturity at 34 wks. Unknown are the effects of these drugs on our livers. It's possible that they could be actually making the problem worse for baby or subsequent pregnancies for the mother. I took this disease very seriously, but was unable to accept these options. After researching cholestasis this is how I decided to manage my condition. Firstly I did the obvious and took out all fats from my diet, eating only fresh fruit and vegetables, preferably organic and drank 10 litres of purified water a day (the recommended amount of water is 2/3 litres per day) to flush the toxins out of my liver. I also drank fresh beetroot juice and vegetable soups. I took herbs to support my liver throughout my pregnancy and had a mix made up from my naturopath after cholestasis was confirmed, including Dandelion, St Mary's Thistle, Globe artichoke and Psyllium husks. I also did yoga and had Reiki to support my mind and body. Acupuncture was performed throughout my pregnancy for liver function, but more for use of induction in the final days before delivery. I had blood tests performed monthly until 20 weeks, every week from 30 weeks and every day from 32 weeks until birth. I also agreed to daily monitoring of baby's heartbeat. At 32 weeks I became aware of my liver cells dying and my levels indicated I was on my way to fatty liver disease, giving me a 20% chance of maternal mortality. I knew I had to take full responsibility for myself and my baby and putting drugs into our bodies would only of done us more harm. Unfortunately there is not much information about this disease and many doctors and midwives are unaware of the symptoms, making it very difficult to diagnose. Since my last baby was born, almost 3 yrs ago, I have continued to research this condition. There has been very little progress in the treatment offered from the medicos. Ursofalk acid is used in most cased, this
RE: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction
Title: Message Hi Amy, re the syntocinon. This can be controlled by turning up or down the delivery rate on the IVAC, so isnt really the problem with hyperstimulation. The Ptostin gel is put on the cervix and once there and absorbed cannot be controlled easily. So, it is the Gel that is the problem. The artificial rupture of membranes is not a problem for hyperstimulation but is always done for safety reasons when using Syntocinon infusion. As you know, this is not my area of expertise, so can only read the research. Thinking of you at this difficult time, Love Mary Murphy From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of adamnamy Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2006 8:32 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] on the subject of induction Just seeking some advice from midwives out there-I know I will most likely forget to ask all of these when I go to the antenatal clinic or have my next midwife visit I am 35+something weeks and have started to show signs of cholestasis over the past few weeks. Blood results are fluctuating a bit they go high and the next one is about normal and then high again. I am preparing for the eventuality of an induced hospital birth (though still hoping to go into labor at home in the 36th week) Some part of me wants to be induced now so I dont have to deal with the stress of that stillbirth stat. anyway Can someone tell me? 1) Is it the syntocin in the IV that poses the greatest threat to me/we in terms of uterine hyper stimulation and fetal distress or can the prostaglandin gel and ARM cause that too? 2) Is the failed induction-requiring C/s rate really around 50%? Is there anything that I can do to minimize that risk if I am induced? Like staying up, walking around, asking to be left alone, requesting minimal monitoring that sort of stuff. And will they let me do that at a large teaching hosp? (I have the dream of asking to be left alone and sneaking off to the bathroom and giving birth in the water quietly without any interference--dont like my chances!) How much negotiating power do women really have in this circumstance? My view is that ultimately its my body, my baby, and my birth but I dont want to make it hard for us all by being hard line at a time when I need to go inside and give birth (I can see that back-firing on me). Its just hard to work out what the important stuff is-it all seems so important! Amy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 3/2/2006
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well said julie. over the past few weeks i have been in labour ward with many women induced and all of them have lead to a cascade of intervention culminating in LSCS. The woman i was with the last shift, for example, ended up with a trial of forceps in theatre! why oh why do the powers that be decided it is time to come out ready or not! not to mention the fact that women then feel let down that they cannot due to a myriad of facts such as maternal exhaustion push that baby out. JUST WHEN WILL WE LEARN. regards
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hi i was wondering if anyone on the list knows where i can buy a book entitled When survivors give birth by Penny Simkin i became interested in finding this book and the subject of childhood sexual/physical abuse when meeting a woman that i looked after that was a survivor. i would appreciate it if anyone knows where i can get this regards sharon
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This happened to me once and I deleted the name out of my address book and re-entered it. Some emails were coming up to "ozmidwifery" and some were coming up to ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au. I was sending OK but they didn't come back to my inbox. Never really understood how I got it to work again but it did after a few tries. Anyway, it is worth a try. Helen
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Hi all, I thought I'd share with you a ridiculous scenerio which happened at my work today. A woman who was having her fourth baby, three previous being vaginal births and one of which was a uncomplicated vaginal breech birth was booked for her first ELUSC for breech at 38 weeks. Upon looking through the notes the only options that were documented as being offered to her were C/S or "risky ECV". This baby was previously cephalic until 33/40, with only her last two visits showing a non engaged breech presentation. I surely hope they palpated her before performing the C/S today. Whats evenmore ridiculous is that she had her previous babies at our hospital under the same obstetricians as today. Our obstetricians are very experienced and in the past routinely did vaginal breech births, with a couple still doing them. This poor lady had simply gone to the wrong clinic day and seen the wrong obstetrician for her! Her other three babies were all born within the last five years! Times are changing fast!
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Hi Listers, My apprentice is desperate for help with the following: -Effects of postpartum psychosis on the mother/baby - this is a complex case scenario.-3500 words-Case scenario on 3 babies requiring special care admin-(Jaundice,NAS TTN) -3500 words-Presentation on management of jaundice-Mother/baby bond - Nature or nurture - 2000 words-Physical violence against women - 2500words. Any research or info greatly appreciated. Brenda Manningwww.themidwife.com.au BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:;brendamanning FN:brendamanning ORG:the midwife TEL;WORK;VOICE:03 59862535 TEL;WORK;FAX:03 59862535 ADR;WORK:;;79 Besgrove St;Rosebud;Victoria;3939;Australia LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:79 Besgrove St=0D=0ARosebud, Victoria 3939=0D=0AAustralia URL;WORK:http://www.thhmidwife.com.au EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20050804T105454Z END:VCARD
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If anyone is interested, there is a student in Newcastle looking for non vaccinating parents as part of her research for her honours degree. i did it, it was really interesting. I have copied and pasted her details below. Best wishes, Lisa Chalmers CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS YOUR EXPERIENCES AS A NON-VACCINATING PARENT Would you be interested in participating in a study exploring the opinions and experiences of Australian parents who choose not to vaccinate their child/children? Your participation in this study will involve completing an email interview that will ask questions regarding your decision not to vaccinate as well your experiences since making this decision. This research is being conducted by Natacha Hes and forms a part of her Honours degree in Sociology under the supervision of Dr Deborah Stevenson in the School of Social Sciences at the University of Newcastle. We are seeking parents over the age of 18 who have made the choice not to vaccinate their child/children with any vaccinations (This does not include the Vitamin K injection given at birth). If you are interested in finding out more, we ask that you set up an email account that does not identify your name or address. This is to ensure that your privacy and anonymity are maintained for the duration of the project. To do this, go to Hotmail (www.hotmail.com), create a code name and devise a pin number. This email address will be the way in which we correspond. Using this non-identifying email address, please contact the researcher via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be forwarded an Information Statement that details the project. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Tanya wrote:- I think it is a good thing that you are considering all your options. Most women just go along with it blindfolded, without knowing all the discussions about it. How true - about this and so many other childbirth choices! Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke
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Hello I run a voluntary support group in Brisbane for women who have had traumatic births. I picked up a Postnatal Distress handout froma Womens Health community centre in Logan and i was wondering where i could contact the writers of the handout. The names on the back of the handout are Candy Hyde(RN) and Diana Maddocks(RN). The handout was printed by Adelaide Women's Community health Centre in 1993 and the address was 64 Pennington Tce, North Adelaide. Thank you for your time and help. Ursula
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Home superior to hospital birth Source: British Medical Journal 2005; 330: 1416-22 The largest prospective study of planned home births to date evaluates the safety of such births supported by direct entry midwives. Among low-risk women, home births assisted by certified midwives achieve similar rates of intrapartum and neonatal mortality as hospital births, with lower rates of medical intervention, reveal Canadian researchers. Despite a wealth of evidence supporting planned home birth as a safe option for women with low risk pregnancies, the setting remains controversial in most high resource settings, note Kenneth Johnson (Public Health Agency of Canada) and Betty-Anne Daviss (International Federation of Gynecology and Obstetrics, Ottawa). To examine its safety further, the team compared perinatal outcomes for all planned home births (n = 5418) supported by the North American Registry of Midwives in 2000, with those previously reported for low-risk hospital births in the USA. Overall, 12.1 percent of women were transferred to hospital for delivery. The incidence of neonatal mortality among those who remained at home was similar to that documented for low-risk hospital births, with no maternal deaths. Medical intervention, however, was substantially less common among home, versus hospital, births, with epidural, episiotomy, forceps, vacuum extraction, and cesarean section rates of 4.7 percent, 2.1 percent, 1.9 percent, 0.6 percent, and 3.7 percent, respectively. Our study of certified professional midwives suggests that they achieve good outcomes among low-risk women without routine use of expensive hospital interventions, conclude Johnson and Daviss. Posted: 23 June 2005 Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hi Jeannine, that would be Tere GW? Send her my love if so :)) So when are you making the move? Would love to catch up when you land. can ph me 08 83915542 / 0415915110 cheers Jfairy Jeannine Bradow wrote: Hello Jennifairy, I believe i may know the midwife u mentioned. I'm working with her. She mentioned u. Jx -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 8/06/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Here is a cross posting from the C-Aware list. A woman wanting support for a VBA2C it would be great if we can help her avoid another humiliating and appalling situation that was imposed upon QLDs Mandalaine. If you have any replies, just email the list and I will forward them on to this woman. Cheers Jo One option I am considering, now that the Mackay public hospital is making life difficult for me, is to go and stay with my sister at Victoria Point, with a view to birthing at the Redlands hospital. Has anyone heard any reports regarding support (or otherwise) for VBA2C a Redlands hospital? I have received some encouraging reports, but would like to know more before making a decision, I will arrange to contact the hospital myself soon, But any background information would be greatly appreciated! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005
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Yes it is tere and I'll give her a hug from u. I would love to talk some time about the state of affairs in south oz. Jx -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hello Jennifairy, I believe i may know the midwife u mentioned. I'm working with her. She mentioned u. Jx -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hi, I am forwarding this info for anyone who might like to do some casual work at Cohuna Hospital (on the Murray River in Victoria). They are experiencing some difficulties covering all of their shifts. Nicole Carver Hi Nicole, Sue from On Times Nurses has asked me to send you the following re the Midwife position at Cohuna Hospital Dates 6th June - 31st July. Pay - Cohuna Hospital will pay G2 Yr 9 rates, up to G5 when in charge. On Time will pay a 'top up' on an hourly rate, which is not taxable. Travelling is tax deductible, a log book is required for this. Kerang hospital has 2 weekend shifts available during the period, these weekends could be picked up as well. Please contact Sue Bourchier at On Time Nurses 1300 730 562 for further information Cheers David -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Dear fellow list members, What is your practice regarding the timing of the first bath, in a hospital setting? One of my colleagues is re-examining our current practice of delaying the first bath until approx 24hrs, and after babe's temp is confirmed to be normal. We are keen to know the rationale for other midwives' practice, including it's impact on the infant's temperature and risk of infection. Your input would be most appreciated. Nicole Carver. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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hi just caught the program thought it was great. wonderful work in and ideal world it would be great for women to have the option of home birth covered by our medicare system. IF ONLY. congratulations for being so involved.
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I have deleated the email about purchasing dopplars so could the person ordering them email me off the list thanks andrea quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Woman breastfeeds tigers April 4, 2005 - 12:05PM Page Tools Email to a friend Printer format A Burmese woman is breastfeeding two tiger cubs at a zoo in Rangoon after they were removed from their aggressive mother. Hla Htay, 40, who has three children, the youngest seven months old, offered her services after the Bengal tiger cubs' mother, Noah Noah, killed the third member of her litter. The two others, a male and a female, were taken from her and now receive bottle feeds as well as Hla Htay's milk four times a day. I felt sorry for them so I decided to feed them before their teeth grow, she told the Myanmar Times, an English-language paper in the capital. The cubs were born at the Rangoon zoo a fortnight ago, the first there for 16 years. The Bengal tiger, Panthera tigris, is listed as endangered on the World Conservation Union's red list, with the global population estimated at fewer than 2,500. A tenth of them live in Burma, where they are under threat from poachers seeking to feed markets for traditional medicines and trophies. Big cat skins are easily obtained at markets on the Thai-Burmese border, with snow leopards the most commonly available. Dealers say that tiger parts are becoming more expensive and hard to obtain because of their dwindling supply. Noah Noah and her mate were one of two pairs of tigers sent to the zoo from Thailand four years ago as part of an animal exchange. The Telegraph, London image001.gifimage002.gif
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Hello everyone! I am in need of some help!!! I am 32 weeks pregnant and the baby is in a breech position. I have been doing breech tilts 2-3 times a day for the past week with no success. I am having acupuncture next week. I am particularly interested in some information on the use of pulsatilla. Any ideas will be much appreciated!! Thanks Helen
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Just checking that I am still on the list as I haven't been receiving many emails lately. Helen
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I hope someone has an answer to my question. I am a newly graduated Certified Midwife working in a large teaching hospital. I need to find out other policies regarding the number of breastfeeds required in the first 24 hours of a healthy term newborn. If a baby has not breastfed at delivery, some midwives will perform a heel prick test for a blood glucose level after 6 hours and some will try and give a comp feed of artificial formula. I dont believe in either. Some literature has said that a newborn will feed 3 times in the first 24 hours, and the some WHO literature says a newborn should feed 8 times in the first 24 hours. I really need to know if anyone has established a policy and guideline regarding this matter. Thanks, Nicole.
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At the organisation where I work we have been asked to sign 'a code of conduct'before we can be given a password to the new computer system. There is nothing in the code that is not already covered by the other codes and laws by which we are governed and in the past I have declined to sign it and this was accepted. Today I was threatened that if I didnt sign it I would not be able to do my job properly and thus I would be sacked. You can imagine how intimidated I was by that but my question is do other organisations ask there midwives and nurses to sign such codes and if so what do people respond Andrea qUANCHI -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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hi i don't know if anyone is interested but one of my continuity ladies husband is making chairs for babies which are made out of wood and sit on the table so baby can join in during meal times also. they are sturdy and well made and would make a great present for anyone who has recently given birth. I have a email address if anyone is interested in purchasing one. regards sharon
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Hi All, An article FYI. The final comment about the increase in women choosing to birth without analgesia is interesting. Leanne. Preferences for analgesia in labor Issue 21: 1 Nov 2004 Source: European Journal of Obstetrics Gynecology and Reproductive Biology 2004; 117: 30-2 A new study has shown how womens attitudes to analgesia during labor have changed in recent years. Epidural analgesia has become much more popular, at the expense of opioids (pethidine/meperidine), report researchers. Specialists at Tel Aviv University, and the Rabin Medical Center in Petah Tikva, Israel, questioned 114 pregnant women in 1995 and 125 pregnant women in 2001, to compare their attitudes to analgesia during labor. There were no differences between the two groups of women in terms of maternal age, gestational age, gravidity, parity, or level of education. The women were asked about the type of analgesia they would prefer in their coming labor, and were given the options of opioids, epidural, alternative approaches (reiki and reflexology), no analgesia, and other. They were also asked about the type of analgesia used in previous deliveries (if any), and about the level of satisfaction they felt as a result. Epidurals up, opioids down The results, reported in the latest issue of the European Journal of Obstetrics Gynecology and Reproductive Biology, show that the preference for epidural analgesia rose from 57 percent in 1995 to 66.5 percent in 2001. The preference for opioids, meanwhile, decreased from 31.5 percent in 1995 to 18.5 percent in 2001. The rate of epidural use in a previous delivery rose accordingly from 26 percent in 1995 to 63 percent in 2001. This was balanced almost completely by a fall in opioid use in a previous delivery, from 63 percent in 1995 to 27 percent in 2001. Satisfaction with the method used in previous deliveries remained similar in both years, with about 20 percent of women very satisfied, 50 percent satisfied, and 30 percent not satisfied. The researchers say the finding of a rise in popularity of epidural analgesia is consistent with observations reported from other countries, such as France and Australia. The rate of epidural use was, however, lower in Israel than in these two countries, leading the researchers to suggest that women have not yet been made sufficiently aware of the advantages of epidural analgesia, and they are more suspicious of its side-effects, both on the infant and themselves. Improved patient education is necessary to address this, they say. The researchers also comment on the statistically significant rise in the proportion of women intending to undergo labor without any analgesia, from none in 1995 to 8 percent in 2001: We assume that this can be explained by the modern emphasis on a more natural lifestyle, alternative medicine, and more physiologic approaches to pain relief. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Dear List, I have recently heard of the Anti-D that can be given during pregnancy (28weeks?) for the prevention of HDN... does anyone know how effective it is, and if it is safe...? Thanks, Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Dear List Many of you are probably all too aware of the Galea case. I just came across it looking for info on what effect might an epidural given to the mother in labour have on the foetal heart rate? http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/courts/coroner/findings/findings_2002/galea.finding.htm Is anyone aware of the outcome for the midwife concerned? I am surprised anyone would be willing to work in these hospitals when so many protocols go against what so many of us believe about normal labour. I include some of the findings for those who are interested (scared me!). Does anyone think the midwife acted inappropriately? Tell me to drop the subject if this is not the forum for such a discussion. Thanks Fiona 4.6. Decision to use Syntocinon/assessment of progress of labourAs I stated earlier, Professor Pepperell was critical of the fact that Syntocinon was infused without checking first whether Mrs Galeas labour had progressed, and to what extent, by examining the cervix. He said: Assessment of progress in labour. I am most critical that there was no assessment of progress in labour performed between the time a pelvic examination was done at 0100 hours, and the time of collapse at about 0930 hours. The usual rules in Obstetric practice are that pelvic examination should be performed approximately 4 hourly in patients who are having a trial of scar, to ensure adequate progress is being achieved and the trial of scar is then allowed to continue, and certainly it should also have been performed prior to the use of the epidural anaesthetic at 0750 hours, and again when this was topped up at 0910 hours. It is just not possible to know what is going on with the cervix without the performance of a pelvic examination, and had the cervix already been fully dilated when the epidural was inserted, it may well have been that delivery could have been effected at that stage without much difficulty. It will never be known whether the cervix was fully dilated at that time, and whether delivery was possible, but certainly failure to assess progress of labour during an 8 hour period in someone with a previous caesarean section, who is having labour stimulated, and who has an epidural anaesthesia, is not adequate care. (Exhibit C19a, p7) 4.7. Professor Pepperell expanded upon this in oral evidence, given via video-link with Melbourne, as follows: Q: Are you able to say in Mrs Galea's case what might have been detected if pelvic examination had been done either at the four hourly interview intervals suggested by you or alternatively at the time of the administration of the epidural and/or the Syntocinon whether the outcome would have been any different in this case. A: I cant say because we dont know what those findings were. If that indicated that the cervix was still only minimally dilated then what was done was appropriate. If however they had shown that the cervix was eight or nine centimetres dilated then Syntocinon might not have been necessary at all and that action may well have been taken to the earlier stage prior to the uterine rupture which was presumably the cause of the amniotic fluid embolism (T146-147) 4.8. Dr Jodie Dodd is now a Consultant, but at the time was the Obstetric Registrar on duty, and was the Registrar with whom Midwife James conferred at 6:00am on 30 December 1998. Dr Dodd acknowledged that it was standard procedure to perform a vaginal examination before deciding to augment labour with Syntocinon (T164). 4.9. Dr Dodd was unable to recall the details of the conversation with Ms James, which is not surprising given the lapse of time since then. She said that she would normally ensure that a vaginal examination had been done, either by the midwife, the Intern, or personally (T164). She was sure that if it had been brought to her attention she would have done so, but could not say that it was, or was not (T173). It seems that the most likely explanation of her failure to arrange for a vaginal examination was that she overlooked it, or assumed that the midwife had done it (T168). 4.10. Ms James, on the other hand, asserted that she had no trouble recalling the incident. She said that she would not perform a vaginal examination unless directed to do so by a Senior Midwife or Medical Officer (T100). She also said that she was sure that she drew the fact that Mrs Galea had not had a vaginal examination to Dr Dodds attention, although she could not specifically recall the conversation (T113). 4.11. I have serious doubts about Ms James veracity on this issue. She has been a Registered Midwife since 1973, having trained in the United Kingdom, and had been at FMC since 1996. 4.12. It is my firm impression, after hearing both witnesses, that if the matter had been drawn to her attention, Dr Dodd would have either performed a vaginal
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"I am only one, but I am one.I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do.What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do."---Edward Everett Hale
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Hi list, I have just read in Salerno (1999, p. 122) that endorphin release is higher after acupuncture and TENS. Is acupuncture used in activelabour? I would be interested to hear of anyone's experiences of this. Thanks Fiona (CE student)
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I am a student midwife. I was hoping that somone could explain the difference betwenn length and thickness in vaginal examinations - I find this very confusing Thanks for any help you can give me Stacey -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Help! I am spending hours looking for information for the smallest questions. Can anyone provide info or links to find pre-eclampsia and diuretic and sedative use??? Please and Thankyou, Fiona
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Hi all, I have just come across the book Spiritual Midwifery at the op shop. What do others think of it, if you know the book by Ina May Gaskin? Thanks Fiona -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Dear List This note is for all of the Midwifery course coordinators and Graduate midwives in 2005. My name is Felicity Cummins and I am the Grad Mid coordinator at Mildura Base Hospital. I am in the process of finalising the details about the program but I can tell you that there will be 3-4 positions available for a 12 month course beginning in Feb 2005. There will be6study days containing every topic imaginable, including, care of the sick neonate, midwifery emergencies and home birth. The ward work involves supported practice in Antenatal, Birthing and Postnatal care as well as Special Care Nursery. There is also opportunity for the Grads to become involved in a new Continuity of Care program if they so wish. The program also includesthree community days where the participants are able to experience the links in the community for women and families pre and post birth. Our ward is a fantastic place to work with a great team of happy and dynamic midwives who have a keen focus on education and best practice. My aim is to provide a large amount of basic information and an environment of supported practice for the consolidation of knowledge. I am passionate about nurturing midwives entering the workforce, as these people are the future of midwifery and the future carers of women, children and their families. I know the importance of a great start and I hope that I can provide this tosome of you 2005. Please feel free to contact me off list for your individual questions. I am also very willing to meet any of you for a guided tour of our ward and hospital at any time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Felicity Cummins
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This was in todays Adelaide Advertiser, might be of interest to some cheers Megan Our culture of isolation By MELISSA KING 07sep04 THE Western style of push-away parenting was a cultural experiment in which children could be the losers, a visiting professor said yesterday. Meredith Small, professor of anthropology at Cornell University in New York, said the Western parenting culture of doing it on your own was isolating and could teach babies and children they could not rely on their parents. Professor Small, who addressed the first National Parenting Conference at the Adelaide Convention Centre, said Western cultures tended to hope for independent, self-reliant children. Other cultures kept children close to their parents and extended families. Western practices included not letting babies sleep with parents, allowing babies to cry more and believing babies should not be carried all the time. Everybody thinks that their culture is doing it the right way, Professor Small said. But Western nations have the oddest parenting style when you look around the rest of the world. She said Western parenting styles began with the puritan ethic of northern America and were strengthened at the time of the industrial revolution. We choose in Western culture for women to work . . . there is a trade-off for this choice, she said. She said babies in Western cultures tended to cry more and some of those placed in long day-care developed behavioural problems. I think we're running an experiment in our culture, Professor Small said. She believed what was best for children was physical and emotional connection, without which they could become adults with commitment problems. We have to find more flexible ways to do this we have to push for babies and children in the workforce, she said. A keynote speaker yesterday at the three-day conference, organised by Child and Youth Health, was Christine Puckering, a senior research fellow at the University of Glasgow, Scotland. She outlined mellow parenting, an approach introduced in Britain 12 years ago to help parents and children under five develop better relationships. The program has been used with families where post-natal depression, abusive relationships or substance abuse led to difficulties for children. I would love to bring it to Australia; I can't think of anything better, she said. This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hi everyone, I havehad no luck yet with any editors but am pushing as hardas I canand writing proposal letters from every possible angle. As an extreme example of where we don't want to end up, I am looking at childbirth in the US. I understand independent midwives are illegal (or were) - can anyone fill me in on this? Also some information on the history of midwifery in Australia would be a great help. I can find a lot on American history but not Australian. thanks everyone for your assistance cheers Kylie½ Price FOXTEL Digital Installation On-Line Limited Offer -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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FYI.. Helen Cahill MOMENTS IN TIME: Child RaisingSunday 13 June, 5.50pm, ABC TVJill Tiver, a working midwife since the late 1950s, reveals the history ofAustralian childbirth. Through memories, home movies and archival footage,Jill reveals the changing roles of mothers, fathers and the unsung heroes,the midwives.http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/netw/200406/programs/FA0321S019_13.htm
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This might of interest to some of you and fits with the recent thread on parenting styles. http://www2b.abc.net.au/abcdiary/event.asp?id=43545display=fromtodaygatewayid=221presdir=healthPageRec=0 Helen Cahill
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This is a long one but sooo lovely. A woman named Emily renewing her driver's license at the RTA office was asked by the woman recorder to state her occupation. She hesitated, uncertain how to classify herself. "What I mean is," explained the recorder, "do you have a job, or are you just a ? "Of course I have a job," snapped Emily. "I'm a mum." "We don't list 'mum' as an occupation... 'housewife' covers it," said the recorder emphatically. I forgot all about her story until one day I found myself in the same situation, this time at our own Town Hall. The Clerk was obviously a career woman, poised, efficient, and possessed of a high sounding title like, "Official Interrogator" or "Town Registrar." "What is your occupation?" she probed. What made me say it, I do not know... The word simply popped out. "I'm a Research Associate in the field of Child Development and Human Relations." The clerk paused, ball-point pen frozen in midair, and looked up as though she had not heard right. I repeated the title slowly, emphasizing the most significant words. Then I stared with wonder as my pronouncement was written in bold, black ink on the official questionnaire. "Might I ask," said the clerk with new interest, "just what you do in your field?" Coolly, without any trace of fluster in my voice, I heard myself reply, "I have a continuing program of research, (what mother doesn't), in the laboratory and in the field, (normally I would have said indoors and out). I'm working for my Masters, (the whole darned family), and already have four credits, (all daughters). Of course, the job is one of the most demanding in the humanities, (any mother care to disagree.?) and I often work 14 hours a day, (24 is more like it). But the job is more challenging than most run-of-the-mill careers and the rewards are more of a satisfaction rather than just money." There was an increasing note of respect in the clerk's voice as she completed the form, stood up, and personally ushered me to the door. As I drove into our driveway, buoyed up by my glamorous new career, I was greeted by my lab assistants - ages 13, 7, and 3. Upstairs I could hear our new experimental model, (a 6 month old baby), in the child-development program, testing out a new vocal pattern. I felt I had scored a beat on bureaucracy! And I had gone on the official records as someone more distinguished and indispensable to mankind than "just another mum." Motherhood.What a glorious career! Especially when there's a title on the door. Does this make grandmothers "Senior Research Associates in the field of Child Development and Human Relations" and great grandmothers "Executive Senior Research Associates"? I think so!!! I also think it makes Aunts "Associate Research Assistants". Send this to a Mum, Grandmother, Aunt, and other friends you know. May your troubles be less, your blessings more, and nothing but happiness come through your door! Take care, Judy ___ Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this email message is intended for thenamed addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute, take any action reliant on, or disclose any details of the information in this email to any other person or organisation. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately. __ Name; Judy Giesaitis RN CM MSc WHN CAFH Position: Health Consultant Dept:CareLink Company: Australian Health Management Group Address:Locked Bag 3 WOLLONGONG NSW 2500 Phone: 1800.653.316 Fax: 02.4227.1678 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] attachment: Notebook.jpg
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Jo from oz could you please email me [EMAIL PROTECTED]so I will have your email address, I must have written it down wrong as I keep getting mail returned, thank you, Rochelle Beckman Birthplace Support Group Inc. WA
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Another interesting article and more ammunition for midwifery led care. http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9099746%255E26462,00.html Helen Cahill
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At-home Childbirth Raises Rental Issues of Noise and Privacy Robert S. Griswold | Steven R. Kellman | Ted Smith 17-October-1999 Sunday This column on issues confronting renters and landlords is written by Counselor of Real Estate and Certified Property Manager Robert Griswold, host of Real Estate Today! with Robert Griswold (10 a.m. Saturdays on AM1130 - KSDO.com radio, or on the Internet at www.retodayradio.com), and by attorneys Steven R. Kellman, director of the Tenants' Legal Center, and Ted Smith, principal in a law firm representing landlords.Q: I have just found out, second-hand, that the couple who lives in theapartment directly below me is planning on having natural childbirth intheir apartment. They have not spoken to me about it, but have mentioned it to a couple ofthe other neighbors. Many of the people in our apartment complex areconcerned about this situation. Noise carries very easily here. We feel that this could be a potentiallyintrusive event. Many of us in the building are not particularly friendlywith this couple. While this may be a blessed event for them and their friends and family, itis something that the rest of us do not care to share in by being forced tolisten to a woman in labor. It seems to us to be a very intimate time and we simply do not care to bedrawn into these intimate moments with virtual strangers. I'm sure we soundlike insensitive louts to some people. But since we have no personalconnection to this couple, we do not feel we should be subjected to thepotentially distressing noises associated with the natural home-birthingprocess. What are the legal rights of both the couple and the rest of the tenants? Are there any restrictions on at-home childbirth in multiunit rentalcomplexes? Does the couple have any obligation to give us officialnotification of their plans? If tenants are not able to sleep or conducttheir normal lives in their homes due to the noise, are we eligible to haveour rent pro-rated for loss of use time? A: Griswold: You have a very unusual situation. From a legal standpoint,noise is noise regardless of the cause or source and your landlord mustattempt to maintain the "quiet enjoyment" of their premises for alltenants. However, the landlord cannot act upon anticipated noise, only actual noisewhen (and if) it occurs. In other words, the landlord cannot prevent thiscouple from planning an at-home childbirth based on perceptions that otherswill be disturbed. One can reasonably assume that there may be some noise,but other than a reminder about the rules against disturbing neighbors,there is nothing the landlord can do in advance. Of course, the at-home childbirth may be very quiet. However, I do thinkyou should notify your landlord of the situation. The landlord should thenbring the concerns to the expectant couple's attention. This couple should take reasonable efforts to minimize any impact on othertenants. From a tenant/landlord point of view, there are no limitations on at-homechildbirth other than the noise and there is no requirement that you mustbe notified. I also believe it would be unreasonable to expect the landlordto reduce your rent as a result of any disturbance. If your landlord is unwilling to address your concerns, then my advice toyou is to ask a neighbor who is on good terms with the expectant couple tomeet with them. That neighbor could explain the concerns in astraight-forward yet diplomatic approach. Kellman: Childbirth or no, noise is noise. Things should be done in theirproper time and place. Having babies is OK, but using the apartment as ahospital may not be OK. Here, such activity may be to the benefit of thenew mom, but to the detriment of many neighbors who may not wish to hearthe noise. Before home birthing, I would advise getting some preliminaryapproval from the affected neighbors to avoid problems. Smith: As a landlord's attorney, let me make two suggestions to thecomplaining resident. First, just relax. After all, you're not the one inlabor. Secondly, consider renting a detached, single-family home. You see, life goes on, and in multifamily housing, there are going to becertain sounds and the presence of others in close proximity that you wouldnot have in a detached home. In my opinion, having to endure the sounds of the natural birthing processby your adjacent apartment neighbor will not give you any legal rightswhatsoever. First, it does not constitute a breach of the covenant of thequiet enjoyment to excuse you from your lease. Second, by complainingunnecessarily, you could get yourself into legal trouble with yourapartment management for frivolous complaints. As long as this is not anongoing occurrence -- and it can't happen any more than once every ninemonths -- you are out of luck.
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Dear All, I have forwarded a copy of an e-mail that Amy Bachrach has posted of behalf of the MatCo WA CAMPAIGN , The message is self explanitory , but in breif we are trying to raise extra capital to fund a trip fro Barb Vernon to speak a reception jat Parliament House . WE are confident that some if not all of the money can be raised through sympathetic pollies , but this may take time and we need to get organised ASAP on this one so that Barb can plan her visit . Dont hesitate to contact me if you have any queries Yours ..in haste ! Mel Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] (08)93817970 0410452900 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Protect the Community Midwifery Program -- Help Needed #1 The Maternity Coalition has made its urgent priority the protection of the Community Midwifery Program, as we understand that it may be one of the tragic casualties of the current round of cuts. As one step in the campaign, Louise Pratt, MLC has agreed to host, with the leaders of the other parties, an informational reception for Members of Parliament that will feature a few very short presentations to as many Members of Parliament as can be organised. Other aspects of the campaign include lobbying, press and a rally. We'll be in touch about those aspects soon. But first, we need your help NOW: We have invited Barbara Vernon, to speak at the reception and she will accept our invitatation if we can raise at least half her airfare. This is a very exciting opportunity for us as she is not only the former President of the Maternity Coalition but also the Executive Officer of the Australian College of Midwives Incorporated. We believe it is an extraordinary opportunity to send the message of primary midwifery care and continuity of carer credibly, vigorously and at the right time. If your organisation, or someone you know, can make a contribution to help us raise the target $600, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Friday 26 September and let us know the amount of the contribution. In Grateful Solidarity, Amy Bachrach On behalf of the Maternity Coalition of WA --Boundary_(ID_Bqj6F4OoHG0uGep1gJ9b6Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN Dear All, I have forwarded a copy of an e-mail that Amy Bachrach has posted of behalf of the MatCo WA CAMPAIGN , The message is slef explanitory , but in breif we are trying to raise extra capital to fund a trip fro Barb Vernon to speak a reception jat Parliament House . WE are confident that some if not all of the money can be raised through sympathetic pollies , but this may take time and we need to get organised ASAP on this one so that Barb can plan her visit . Dont hesitate to contact me if you have any queries Yours ..in haste ! Mel Gregory mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] (08)93817970 0410452900 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Protect the Community Midwifery Program -- Help Needed #1 The Maternity Coalition has made its urgent priority the protection of the Community Midwifery Program, as we understand that it may be one of the tragic casualties of the current round of cuts. As one step in the campaign, Louise Pratt, MLC has agreed to host, with the leaders of the other parties, an informational reception for Members of Parliament that will feature a few very short presentations to as many Members of Parliament as can be organised. Other aspects of the campaign include lobbying, press and a rally. We'll be in touch about those aspects soon. But first, we need your help NOW: We have invited Barbara Vernon, to speak at the reception and she will accept our invitatation if we can raise at least half her airfare. This is a very exciting opportunity for us as she is not only the former President of the Maternity Coalition but also the Executive Officer of the Australian College of Midwives Incorporated. We believe it is an extraordinary opportunity to send the message of primary midwifery care and continuity of carer credibly, vigorously and at the right time. If your organisation, or someone you know, can make a contribution to help us raise the target $600, please email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] by Friday 26 September and let us know the amount of the contribution. In Grateful Solidarity, Amy Bachrach On behalf of the Maternity Coalition of WA --Boundary_(ID_Bqj6F4OoHG0uGep1gJ9b6Q)-- - Kim Hunter Step Two Designs Pty Ltd Knowledge Management / Content Management / Intranets http://www.steptwo.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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HI everyone, A positive story for once! Sun-Herald, Sydney August 3 2003 -- More power to midwives in bid to cut caesareans By Miranda Wood, Health Reporter Midwives at Sydney hospitals are working on a program to reduce the high rates of caesareans and other interventions during birth. The new model of care, expected to be trialled in northern Sydney hospitals, involves a woman having the same midwife throughout pregnancy and birth. As part of the changes, doctors are not required to be on duty, but midwives and expectant mothers can still request their assistance when necessary. The proposed plan comes as a new Sydney study, published in this month's British Journal Of Obstetrics And Gynaecology, has revealed midwives are a cheaper alternative to interventions during labour. Nearly one in four NSW women has a caesarean birth, but the World Health Organisation recommends no higher than 15 per cent. Sally Tracy, the study's author and midwifery practice development associate professor at the University of Technology, Sydney, said midwife-only births were far more cost-effective for the health system. The paper is probably showing that, for the first time, we can now actually cost up the sort of things we can prevent happening in childbirth, she said. NSW Health supports the new maternity program, which gives more power and autonomy to midwives. A spokeswoman said: The NSW Health department supports area health services in their development and implementation of best practice maternity care options, which may include midwifery models of care that are provided in conjunction with other maternity health professionals. Professor Tracy said evidence from other countries, including New Zealand, proved the proposed plan decreased the number of interventions. There is the research around to show that the biggest factors that prevent women from going on and having their baby quite naturally are the fear and giving birth among people they don't know, she said. They've not had the continuity of having a midwife whom they know and can form a relationship with and can actually contact when they want to know the answer to anything. When they come in to give birth, they know that the midwife is there and will be there with them and that, it seems, is the thing that lowers the intervention rate. We're looking at a better outcome for women and babies. Professor Tracy said midwife-only births could reduce the number of interventions to between 7 and 10 per cent. If a woman shows any sign of having a complicated pregnancy or birth, then the lines are all open for that communication with the next level of care, she said. Professor Tracy said an assigned midwife could also conduct home visits to assist mothers after birth. The new plan needs approval from the body that monitors childbirth safety in NSW, the Maternal and Perinatal Committee. Interventions include caesareans, epidurals and inductions, which must all be performed by doctors. Professor Tracy said some doctors still had very entrenched thinking that women needed high-tech obstetric care. There is still a thinking out there that every birth is high-risk, she said. Shellharbour Hospital, on the NSW south-coast, is also planning to introduce midwife-only births to cope with a shortage of obstetricians. - - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Pinky is in town for a conference, and will be doing an evening for parents on August 1. Let me know if you are interested! Denise LoveBirth Central - 02 9399 5854LifeOptions - The Centre for LifeLong LearningDoula Expresswww.e-lifeoptions.com
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Hello fellow ozmidders just a note to say hello to you all and to say I am still here lurking in cyber space. I have just completed my pain/pharmacology exam today (YEHAAA)...feeling great to have now completed 3 of the 6 semesters of the B Mid...yes I am half way thru the course, can you all believe that!! I still can't. I pinch myself every day, to make sure I'm awake and not dreaming. It only seemed like yesterday that I sat at the NZCOM conference in Hamilton in 2000, crying my eyes out I watched and listened to the NZ B Mid students present their work...wondering when/if my turn would ever come, shouldered by Kathleen Fahy, who told me to have faith and reassured me it would.(Hi Kathleen if your lurking :-) So glad I' kept the faith Kathleen!! ) I continue to be inspired by my midwife student peers from ACU, VU, Flinders and UNi SA thru the B Mid Student Collective, which has grown to be an awesome forum of wonderful women and midwives of the future - look out Darwin we are invading!!!.I met some of the inugural B Mid students from Monash in Gippsland at a great seminar day the other week in which I was treated to some fantastic work by Trish Davids G Dip students, on the 'Nature of Midwifery' where we facilited some great discussion on the B Mid and how we will 'fit' into the midwifery landscape. Again I was inspired by some wonderful midwifery minds and great women. This semester has seemed like the longest semester in 'herstory'for me filled with 13 weeks of lectures/tutorials, essays by the bucket load, four weeks of clinical placement, following thru 7 beautiful women in their pregnancy and birthing journeys, two of whom birthed their babes into my hands - what an honour I have worked alongside numerous midwives, each with something unique and genuine to offer a wide eyed student full of questions. THis journey new to them too, who have had an extended teaching role, having never had before midwife students who need educating on drawing up medications and giving injections, IV therapy, catheterisation...etc etc...placement for me was a blast. I was exposed to so much - a variety of experiences all valuable and rich learning. Oh I love being a midwife!! (well I do again this week...pre exam not to sure) Yours in reforming midwifery Tina Pettigrew. B Mid Student ACU Melb http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BMidStudentCollective/ " As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth" Harriette Hartigan. ---
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Tina, I didn't realise that there was a BMid group on the net, thats great! I am a B mid student at ACU melbourne, How would I go about accessing it, if I can?? Natalie. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] (no subject) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:55:13 EDT Hello fellow ozmidders just a note to say hello to you all and to say I am still here lurking in cyber space. I have just completed my pain/pharmacology exam today (YEHAAA)...feeling great to have now completed 3 of the 6 semesters of the B Mid...yes I am half way thru the course, can you all believe that!! I still can't. I pinch myself every day, to make sure I'm awake and not dreaming. It only seemed like yesterday that I sat at the NZCOM conference in Hamilton in 2000, crying my eyes out I watched and listened to the NZ B Mid students present their work...wondering when/if my turn would ever come, shouldered by Kathleen Fahy, who told me to have faith and reassured me it would.(Hi Kathleen if your lurking :-) So glad I' kept the faith Kathleen!! ) I continue to be inspired by my midwife student peers from ACU, VU, Flinders and UNi SA thru the B Mid Student Collective, which has grown to be an awesome forum of wonderful women and midwives of the future - look out Darwin we are invading!!!.I met some of the inugural B Mid students from Monash in Gippsland at a great seminar day the other week in which I was treated to some fantastic work by Trish Davids G Dip students, on the 'Nature of Midwifery' where we facilited some great discussion on the B Mid and how we will 'fit' into the midwifery landscape. Again I was inspired by some wonderful midwifery minds and great women. This semester has seemed like the longest semester in 'herstory'for me filled with 13 weeks of lectures/tutorials, essays by the bucket load, four weeks of clinical placement, following thru 7 beautiful women in their pregnancy and birthing journeys, two of whom birthed their babes into my hands - what an honour I have worked alongside numerous midwives, each with something unique and genuine to offer a wide eyed student full of questions. THis journey new to them too, who have had an extended teaching role, having never had before midwife students who need educating on drawing up medications and giving injections, IV therapy, catheterisation...etc etc...placement for me was a blast. I was exposed to so much - a variety of experiences all valuable and rich learning. Oh I love being a midwife!! (well I do again this week...pre exam not to sure) Yours in reforming midwifery Tina Pettigrew. B Mid Student ACU Melb http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BMidStudentCollective/ As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth Harriette Hartigan. --- _ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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In a message dated 16/06/03 11:22:28 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tina, I didn't realise that there was a BMid group on the net, thats great! I am a B mid student at ACU melbourne, How would I go about accessing it, if I can?? Natalie. Hi Natalie, just register your interest at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BMidStudentCollective/ Cheers Tina.
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Tina, I am so envious! I patiently (or maybe not so patiently!) await the day when I can begin calling myself a midwife. Living here in Singapore the direct entry midwifery programs were simply unattainable for me. Since we did not know how long we would be living overseas I decided to start the Bachelor of Nursing Science degree offered by distance learning - i am so thankful that i started when I did. I am now in my final stretch. Just 3 semesters to go of a 6 year part time course done by distance learning. It has been a long slog, challenging to study nursing by distance particularly without any peer group for support at all. Returning to placements has been interesting, but also difficult to arrange to say the least given that i have had 3 young children throughout the whole course and now have a fourth to add to the mix. Breastfeeding my youngest two, fitting that in with placements and residentials, exams and essays, maanging to work as a doula and build a practice here, develop a training organisation for doulas and childbirth educators, all has made this a fascinating journey. Now with only 3 placements ahead of me it is starting to really seem achievable. I am off to Townsville again in July with my newest baby and then 4 weeks of placement - if I can find somewhere in Qld that will take me! I am really starting to feel that i may one day be ready to apply to do my Midwifery post grad. How I am going to get my 12 months practical experience and then organise 20 weeks clinical experience is beyond me but perhaps something will pass that will make it achievable - everythign else seems to have fallen into place when it was needed. Oh how I envy those who were able to do direct entry. Saying all of that, it has surprised me how much I have enjoyed nursing - I never would have believed that i would one day be saying that palliative care is as fascinating to me as birth. Two ends of the spectrum and each with so many parallels to the other. Well done to the work you have achieved so far Tina. I hope one day soon to have the same privilege as the rest of you with being able to provide women with the choices they wish to explore. Until then, I work beside wonderful caregivers and provide the emotional support that so many are looking for during their pregnancy and births. Nikki MacfarlaneChildbirth Internationalwww.childbirthinternational.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Distance training for the world's childbirth educators and doulas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] (no subject) Hello fellow ozmiddersjust a note to say hello to you all and to say I am still here lurking in cyber space. I have just completed my pain/pharmacology exam today (YEHAAA)...feeling great to have now completed 3 of the 6 semesters of the B Mid...yes I am half way thru the course, can you all believe that!! I still can't. I pinch myself every day, to make sure I'm awake and not dreaming. It only seemed like yesterday that I sat at the NZCOM conference in
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Dear Tina I think it is wonderful and inspiring that your courses have gone forward in times that are so difficult I trust it will make your group of new B Mid midwives so powerful in their contribution toward increased midwifery acre in Australia Thank you for sharing and persevering Denise - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:55 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] (no subject) Hello fellow ozmiddersjust a note to say hello to you all and to say I am still here lurking in cyber space. I have just completed my pain/pharmacology exam today (YEHAAA)...feeling great to have now completed 3 of the 6 semesters of the B Mid...yes I am half way thru the course, can you all believe that!! I still can't. I pinch myself every day, to make sure I'm awake and not dreaming. It only seemed like yesterday that I sat at the NZCOM conference in Hamilton in 2000, crying my eyes out I watched and listened to the NZ B Mid students present their work...wondering when/if my turn would ever come, shouldered by Kathleen Fahy, who told me to have faith and reassured me it would.(Hi Kathleen if your lurking :-) So glad I' kept the faith Kathleen!! )I continue to be inspired by my midwife student peers from ACU, VU, Flinders and UNi SA thru the B Mid Student Collective, which has grown to be an awesome forum of wonderful women and midwives of the future - look out Darwin we are invading!!!.I met some of the inugural B Mid students from Monash in Gippsland at a great seminar day the other week in which I was treated to some fantastic work by Trish Davids G Dip students, on the 'Nature of Midwifery' where we facilited some great discussion on the B Mid and how we will 'fit' into the midwifery landscape. Again I was inspired by some wonderful midwifery minds and great women.This semester has seemed like the longest semester in 'herstory'for me filled with 13 weeks of lectures/tutorials, essays by the bucket load, four weeks of clinical placement, following thru 7 beautiful women in their pregnancy and birthing journeys, two of whom birthed their babes into my hands - what an honour I have worked alongside numerous midwives, each with something unique and genuine to offer a wide eyed student full of questions. THis journey new to them too, who have had an extended teaching role, having never had before midwife students who need educating on drawing up medications and giving injections, IV therapy, catheterisation...etc etc...placement for me was a blast. I was exposed to so much - a variety of experiences all valuable and rich learning. Oh I love being a midwife!!(well I do again this week...pre exam not to sure)Yours in reforming midwiferyTina Pettigrew.B Mid Student ACU Melbhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/BMidStudentCollective/" As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth"Harriette Hartigan.---
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Nikki What determination and passion I am in awe and thanks that the new generation of midwives are so centred! Denise - Original Message - From: Nikki Macfarlane To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] (no subject) Tina, I am so envious! I patiently (or maybe not so patiently!) await the day when I can begin calling myself a midwife. Living here in Singapore the direct entry midwifery programs were simply unattainable for me. Since we did not know how long we would be living overseas I decided to start the Bachelor of Nursing Science degree offered by distance learning - i am so thankful that i started when I did. I am now in my final stretch. Just 3 semesters to go of a 6 year part time course done by distance learning. It has been a long slog, challenging to study nursing by distance particularly without any peer group for support at all. Returning to placements has been interesting, but also difficult to arrange to say the least given that i have had 3 young children throughout the whole course and now have a fourth to add to the mix. Breastfeeding my youngest two, fitting that in with placements and residentials, exams and essays, maanging to work as a doula and build a practice here, develop a training organisation for doulas and childbirth educators, all has made this a fascinating journey. Now with only 3 placements ahead of me it is starting to really seem achievable. I am off to Townsville again in July with my newest baby and then 4 weeks of placement - if I can find somewhere in Qld that will take me! I am really starting to feel that i may one day be ready to apply to do my Midwifery post grad. How I am going to get my 12 months practical experience and then organise 20 weeks clinical experience is beyond me but perhaps something will pass that will make it achievable - everythign else seems to have fallen into place when it was needed. Oh how I envy those who were able to do direct entry. Saying all of that, it has surprised me how much I have enjoyed nursing - I never would have believed that i would one day be saying that palliative care is as fascinating to me as birth. Two ends of the spectrum and each with so many parallels to the other. Well done to the work you have achieved so far Tina. I hope one day soon to have the same privilege as the rest of you with being able to provide women with the choices they wish to explore. Until then, I work beside wonderful caregivers and provide the emotional support that so many are looking for during their pregnancy and births. Nikki MacfarlaneChildbirth Internationalwww.childbirthinternational.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Distance training for the world's childbirth educators and doulas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] (no subject) Hello fellow ozmiddersjust a note to say hello to you all and to say I am still here lurking in cyber space. I have just completed my pain/pharmacology exam today (YEHAAA)...feeling great to have now completed 3 of the 6 semesters of the B Mid...yes I am half way thru the course, can you all believe that!! I still can't. I pinch myself every day, to make sure I'm awake and not dreaming. It only seemed like yesterday that I sat at the NZCOM conference in
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I have noticed that mums are even afraid to put their babies on their tummies to tie up their nightie. I assure them it is ok and even beneficial for babies to spend time on their tummies, just that you need to be observing them. Of course I slept all of my girls on their tummies, but I was picky about having clear breathing space, I also used a NZ lambskin for all 3, but pulled a sheet tight across the area under their face. So, I am not surprised that babies may not spending enough time on their tummies to use their neck muscles, though I think it is a good idea that they sleep on their babcks, and am increasingly surprised at how easy it is to do this. marilyn - Original Message - From: Lieve Huybrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:33 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] no subject Dear friends, I don't know if this topic has been discussed in the group already, but it interests me. The sleeping rules for babys (not on their tummy anymore) causes a lot of problems with back and neck muscles of children 3-4 months of age and later, because the parents are made so anxious that they even in daytime don't put their baby on the tummy anymore. On the website of midwifery today is a study (in Englisch :-)) Baby's Bedding: Is It Creating Toxic Nerve Gasses? by Joanne B. Quinn, RMA, PhD (http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/bedding.asp It's an New zealand and UK study. In our country it is unknown. Do you all know more or have some toughts about it? Greetings Lieve -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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surely not putting baby on front is crappy for development? aviva - Original Message - From: Lieve Huybrechts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:03 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] no subject Dear friends,I don't know if this topic has been discussed in the group already, but itinterests me. The sleeping rules for babys (not on their tummy anymore)causes a lot of problems with back and neck muscles of children 3-4 monthsof age and later, because the parents are made so anxious that they even indaytime don't put their baby on the tummy anymore.On the website of midwifery today is a study (in Englisch :-))Baby's Bedding: Is It Creating Toxic Nerve Gasses? by Joanne B. Quinn, RMA,PhD (http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/bedding.aspIt's an New zealand and UK study. In our country it is unknown. Do you allknow more or have some toughts about it?GreetingsLieve--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/03
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Dear friends, I don't know if this topic has been discussed in the group already, but it interests me. The sleeping rules for babys (not on their tummy anymore) causes a lot of problems with back and neck muscles of children 3-4 months of age and later, because the parents are made so anxious that they even in daytime don't put their baby on the tummy anymore. On the website of midwifery today is a study (in Englisch :-)) Baby's Bedding: Is It Creating Toxic Nerve Gasses? by Joanne B. Quinn, RMA, PhD (http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/bedding.asp It's an New zealand and UK study. In our country it is unknown. Do you all know more or have some toughts about it? Greetings Lieve -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Dear List, I just had a wonderful follow through experiance - minus a birth! i have been following this wonderful women thru since mid 2002,and she was due 7/1/03, however went 10days over with her now 21month yo. her 1st labour was a swift 6 hrs, so i had a hunch this one maybe the same! she was booked into be induced at 8am fri 17/01, so of course it came as no suprise when she told me she got a show in the morn of the 16th! anyway, got a call at 2.15am fri 17 [today!] that she was in the b/centre with 2-3min apart, so i broke a few land speed records and got in there at 2.45, the baby was born at 2.42!! the amazing woman ruptured her membranes at 12.20 and within 3hrs had a beautiful 8pound baby boy! the thing that amazed me was the look on the dad's face when i walked in, he could not stop apologising!! he was dissapointed i didnt get there in time!! i reasuured him that this was about himhis wife and baby not me and to relax! but it was so beautiful to see how they wanted me to be a part of this experiance with them 'because i had made the time to come to all the app's" said dad! we really are lucky that there are people out there so open and accepting to let students like us be a part of their birthing miracles! so i have now been to 3.5 births!! take care,love jess. ps - mum and baby [and dad!] doing fine!
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To all mws and consumers I have just witnessed a complete hands off breech birth baby girl born up to the nipple line in caul clear liquor intact perineum great apgars and believe it or not in one of our public hospitals in melbourne .in hosp all up 6 hrs and home the power of women jan MIPP
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Could someone please tell me how I can discontinue Ozmidwifery for a week please as I shall be away for a week? Thank you, Jenny MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Not a bad bunch for the w/e. Luv Rhonda. He SaidShe Said... (10) He said..."I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing to put in it." She said..."You wear briefs, don't you?"(9) She said..."What do you mean by coming home half drunk?" He said... "It's not my fault...I ran out of money."(8) He said... "Since I first laid eyes on you, I've wanted to make loveto you in the worst way." She said..."Well, you succeeded."(7) He said... "Two inches more, and I would be king." She said..."Two inches less, and you'd be a queen."(6) On wall in ladies room: "My husband follows me everywhere." Written just below it: "I do not."(5) He said... "Shall we try a different position tonight?" She said..."That's a good idea you stand by the ironing board while I siton the sofa and fart."(4) Priest said... "I don' t think you will ever find another man likeyour late husband." She said... "Who's gonna look?"(3) He said... "What have you been doing with all the grocery money I gave you?" "She said..."Turn sideways and look in the mirror. "(2) He said ... "Let's go out and have some fun tonight." "She said...Okay, but if you get home before I do, leave the hallway light on." And the number (1)He said... "Why don't you tell me when you have an orgasm? " She said..."I would, but you said not to call you at work. " IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
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Listers, Interesting website and magazine - "made" for humanized childbirth supporters. www.byronchild.com love Liz Mc
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Dear Fellow Social Justice Seekers, The appointment I had with a Sal Lintott in Melbourne, was to discuss the issue of women's choice in childbirth, of which they have none.It is also an increasing global issue - particularly in developed countries, and recommended by the WorldHealth Organizationin 1985 as being of paramount importance. Reference can be given if necessary. Industrialized childbirth harms future generations, and leads to lack of respect for nature and the environment. It is so important. Sal did not turn up, and I left 50 minutes later, disappointed and heartbroken. Is anyone at the other venues interested in a 6 minute segment of HUMANIZED BIRTH which needs no words to say what it is about except for future generations rights, as well as womens rights.. ie. the right to non violent birth. It can be arranged that women will attend post screening to explain the situation to interested parties. sincerely, Elizabeth McAlpine
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Dear Listers, herewith interim flyer, re NMAP - It was straight when I sent it - I think it can be adjusted Liz
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Hello listers, Yesterday, I attended Vicki Chan Nic Edmonstone's 'Intuitive Workshop'. What a beautiful, emotive, empowering, enlightening and fun day. A day which - reinforced my commitment to change childbirth practices refueled my passion to stop the conditioning which the medical model propagates. But yup, I have to stop being like a bull in a china shop and follow Vicki and Nic's example ofa gentle opening of the mind towards deconditioning understanding. To end, with their words. "A better world.. Where birth is sacred.. Life is treasured.. Death is honoured.. Peace at Birth.. Peace on Earth" Thank you Vicki and Nic and all you beautiful women who shared the day with me. Much, much love. Liz
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Dear Jen and List[s] Yes, isnt it just THE best feeling in the whole world! I am still buzzing about the place from the birth on monday. just an update on the woman i followed through, my initial guess of 9.5 pounds was out - try 10 pound 8 and 1/2! yes, wow and oww! i havent seen her but spoke to the midwife and she has apparently suffered a broken pubis bone and a collapsed pelvis, she was bound up and sent home thursday. i am currently in the middle of clinical placement - at the repat, not happy. fatal cardiac arrests, derrogative langauge to patients, poor pac and generally not a happy place, i want to go back to the birth centre!! hope everyone is well. love jess.
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dear All, I am happy, stoked, proud, thrilled and woohoo-ed to announce that today saw the arrival of a baby, which coinsided with me assisting at my very first live birth! i rushed to the hospital at 3am this morning and at 12.40 in the afternoon mr 9.5pounds reared his [HUGE] head!! i cried! i was able to get really envolved, it was amazing! mum was EXCELLENT! 13hrs of labour, strong contractions and using only the gas.however, her dialation seemed to halt around 9cm which was frustrating. but to cut a long story short, the big beautiful head was born then within minutes the even bigger shoulders then he was here! im suprised you didnt all hear me singing and dancing around with joy! mum and bub are fine, student midwife dancing around the room like a crazy person! just had to share! take care!! love [a delirious] Jess
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Dear List, For interest www.gentlebirth.org/nwnm.org/nwnm_org.html Liz
