Re: New version of itunes available.

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hmmm, I thought my original message was quite clear, I did say Mac  
smile.

On 07/03/2007, at 4:23 PM, David Tanner wrote:

I am not totally sure I understand your message.  Does this include  
the latest I Tunes for Windows XP?  If so, how long has this release  
been the current release?  I just updated my I-Tunes last week, but I  
really haven't done much with it other than install it.


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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:49 AM
Subject: New version of itunes available.


: Ok, for those of you who use a Mac then check your software update
: and download the latest version of Itunes, you'll get a very pleasant
: surprise.
: Accessability has been improved a hundred fold and whilst it yet
: doesn't appear to be absolutely perfect its well on the way so full
: marks to Apple on this one along with those many people who have
: provided feedback and suggestions.
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Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ok first question, why are you surprised? Has anyone written to Apple  
about accessability issues regarding Itunes on this list? Well I  
cannot answer that question but I know I certainly have and I know  
that it is being worked on, the only reason why Itunes for the Mac  
became accessible is because allot of VoiceOver users wrote to and  
worked constructively with  Apple to express our concerns about the  
inaccessible nature of Itunes, if you thought that Itunes is  
inaccessible on the PC then you should have seen Itunes, the version  
before the latest release on the Mac but anyhow I'm digressing.
Itunes should have been accessible for the Mac from the start as its  
part of OS10 and the operating system is supposed to be accessible so  
Apple have fixed a problem if you like and Itunes for the PC is being  
worked on as I say, again thanks to those who have written to Apple  
and are working with Apple as a team rather than shunning or just  
making critical and negative statements affectively accomplishing  
nothing, at least Apple are working to fix and enhance their products  
and I wish that could be said for more company's.

On 07/03/2007, at 5:14 PM, David Tanner wrote:

Why doesn't that surprise me???



- Original Message -
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple


: Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have
: an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as
: inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at
: least under the windows platform.
: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't  
support them.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
: Has anyone tried it with windows
: 
: 
: 
: Stephen A. Guerra
: Assistive Technology Specialist
: Independent Living Aids
: 
: Products for Your Active Independent Life!
: 
: 200 Robbins Lane
: Jericho, NY 11753
: Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
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: -Original Message-
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: On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM
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: Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple
: 
: Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for Mac.
: 
: 
: Begin forwarded message:
: 
:   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on  
March 5,
:   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with  
support for
:   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
:  
:   This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4  
which
:   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
:   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
:   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and  
delivered ...
:   at long last!
:  
:   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:   represent a significant step forward from what was possible  
before.
:   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs  
from
:   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much  
more.  If
:   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
:   iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
:  
:   Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth  
the
:   accessible version of iTunes should E-mail  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and
:   thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash  
Apple
:   for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as quick to
:   express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
:  
:   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the  
iPod
:   and the iPhone accessible.
: 
: Dane Trethowan
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Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
I've sent you a reply to this message privately as I didn't want to  
go off-topic on the list.

On 07/03/2007, at 5:20 PM, David Tanner wrote:

Well, kind of sounds like a goverment website insisting that they are  
accessible if you can read their webpage with the Jaws cursor.   
Sorry, but I don't buy it.  I don't see letting Apple off the hook  
for continuing their practice of ignoring the real access needs of  
blind and low vision users.  And, I don't call their attempt at  
access on the Mac access as anything to brag about either.


- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple


: Ok, well I wouldn't call it inaccessible, see my previous message but
: I would say that you can use different ways to access it and screen
: readers provide the tools for the job , an inaccessible programme to
: me is one which you cannot navigate, cannot use, a screen reader
: won't work with etc and Itunes 7.1 for Windows is far from that.
:
: On 07/03/2007, at 7:14 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
:
: Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have
: an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as
: inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at
: least under the windows platform.
: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't support
: them.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
:  Has anyone tried it with windows
: 
: 
: 
:  Stephen A. Guerra
:  Assistive Technology Specialist
:  Independent Living Aids
: 
:  Products for Your Active Independent Life!
: 
:  200 Robbins Lane
:  Jericho, NY 11753
:  Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
:Fax: (516) 937-3906
: 
:  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  Skype: ILASteve
:  Web Site:
:  http://www.independentliving.com
:  http://www.soundbytes.com
: 
: 
:  -Original Message-
:  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  audio.org]
:  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
:  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM
:  To: PC audio discussion list.
:  Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple
: 
:  Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for Mac.
: 
: 
:  Begin forwarded message:
: 
:  Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on  
March 5,
:  2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with  
support for
:  accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
: 
:  This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4  
which
:  introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
:  introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
:  desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and
:  delivered ...
:  at long last!
: 
:  While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:  represent a significant step forward from what was possible before.
:  Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs  
from
:  the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much  
more.  If
:  iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
:  iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
: 
:  Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth the
:  accessible version of iTunes should E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  and
:  thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash  
Apple
:  for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as quick to
:  express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
: 
:  To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the iPod
:  and the iPhone accessible.
: 
:  Dane Trethowan
:  Phone/TTY +61 3 9747 3975
:  Fax: +61 3 9743 7954
:  msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does the latest Nero let you burn rax files from real.com?

2007-03-07 Thread Kathy Szinnyey
Well, the question says it all.  I haven't updated Nero for quite awhile, 
but I do know the version I have doesn't recognize these rax files.  I'm 
trying to find an easier way to burn cdd's than using Realplayer, which I do 
use but don't really like.  Anyone have any other ideas about other software 
I might use, such as Nero or anything else?

Tha;nks, as always,
Kathy


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- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple


 I've sent you a reply to this message privately as I didn't want to
 go off-topic on the list.

 On 07/03/2007, at 5:20 PM, David Tanner wrote:

 Well, kind of sounds like a goverment website insisting that they are
 accessible if you can read their webpage with the Jaws cursor.
 Sorry, but I don't buy it.  I don't see letting Apple off the hook
 for continuing their practice of ignoring the real access needs of
 blind and low vision users.  And, I don't call their attempt at
 access on the Mac access as anything to brag about either.


 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:47 PM
 Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple


 : Ok, well I wouldn't call it inaccessible, see my previous message but
 : I would say that you can use different ways to access it and screen
 : readers provide the tools for the job , an inaccessible programme to
 : me is one which you cannot navigate, cannot use, a screen reader
 : won't work with etc and Itunes 7.1 for Windows is far from that.
 :
 : On 07/03/2007, at 7:14 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
 :
 : Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have
 : an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as
 : inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at
 : least under the windows platform.
 : and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
 : making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't support
 : them.
 :
 :
 :
 :
 :
 :
 :
 :
 : At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
 :  Has anyone tried it with windows
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  Stephen A. Guerra
 :  Assistive Technology Specialist
 :  Independent Living Aids
 : 
 :  Products for Your Active Independent Life!
 : 
 :  200 Robbins Lane
 :  Jericho, NY 11753
 :  Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
 :Fax: (516) 937-3906
 : 
 :  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  Skype: ILASteve
 :  Web Site:
 :  http://www.independentliving.com
 :  http://www.soundbytes.com
 : 
 : 
 :  -Original Message-
 :  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  audio.org]
 :  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 :  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.
 :  Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple
 : 
 :  Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for Mac.
 : 
 : 
 :  Begin forwarded message:
 : 
 :  Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on
 March 5,
 :  2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with
 support for
 :  accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
 : 
 :  This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4
 which
 :  introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
 :  introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
 :  desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and
 :  delivered ...
 :  at long last!
 : 
 :  While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
 :  represent a significant step forward from what was possible before.
 :  Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs
 from
 :  the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much
 more.  If
 :  iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
 :  iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
 : 
 :  Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth the
 :  accessible version of iTunes should E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  and
 :  thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash
 Apple
 :  for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as quick to
 :  express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
 : 
 :  To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the iPod
 :  and the iPhone accessible.
 : 
 :  Dane Trethowan
 :  Phone/TTY +61 3 9747 3975
 :  Fax: +61 3 9743 7954
 :  msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Stephen Guerra
It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple where I
as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking.

Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the little
tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not, (meaning
Apple) are Golden Delicious.

More like rotten Macintosh!
 


Stephen A. Guerra
Assistive Technology Specialist
Independent Living Aids
 
Products for Your Active Independent Life!
 
200 Robbins Lane
Jericho, NY 11753
Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
  Fax: (516) 937-3906
 
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: ILASteve
Web Site:
http://www.independentliving.com
http://www.soundbytes.com
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:15 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple

Why doesn't that surprise me???



- Original Message -
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple


: Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have 
: an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as 
: inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at 
: least under the windows platform.
: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in 
: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't support
them.
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
: Has anyone tried it with windows
: 
: 
: 
: Stephen A. Guerra
: Assistive Technology Specialist
: Independent Living Aids
: 
: Products for Your Active Independent Life!
: 
: 200 Robbins Lane
: Jericho, NY 11753
: Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
:Fax: (516) 937-3906
: 
: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Skype: ILASteve
: Web Site:
: http://www.independentliving.com
: http://www.soundbytes.com
: 
: 
: -Original Message-
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM
: To: PC audio discussion list.
: Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple
: 
: Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for Mac.
: 
: 
: Begin forwarded message:
: 
:   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on March 5,
:   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with support for
:   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
:  
:   This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4 which
:   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
:   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
:   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and delivered ...
:   at long last!
:  
:   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:   represent a significant step forward from what was possible before.
:   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs from
:   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much more.  If
:   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
:   iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
:  
:   Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth the
:   accessible version of iTunes should E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
:   thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash Apple
:   for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as quick to
:   express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
:  
:   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the iPod
:   and the iPhone accessible.
: 
: Dane Trethowan
: Phone/TTY +61 3 9747 3975
: Fax: +61 3 9743 7954
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RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread VaShaun Jones
It sounds like to me that you love Mac's can you write me off list I have
some questions about the accessibility in them?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:18 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple

Ok first question, why are you surprised? Has anyone written to Apple  
about accessability issues regarding Itunes on this list? Well I  
cannot answer that question but I know I certainly have and I know  
that it is being worked on, the only reason why Itunes for the Mac  
became accessible is because allot of VoiceOver users wrote to and  
worked constructively with  Apple to express our concerns about the  
inaccessible nature of Itunes, if you thought that Itunes is  
inaccessible on the PC then you should have seen Itunes, the version  
before the latest release on the Mac but anyhow I'm digressing.
Itunes should have been accessible for the Mac from the start as its  
part of OS10 and the operating system is supposed to be accessible so  
Apple have fixed a problem if you like and Itunes for the PC is being  
worked on as I say, again thanks to those who have written to Apple  
and are working with Apple as a team rather than shunning or just  
making critical and negative statements affectively accomplishing  
nothing, at least Apple are working to fix and enhance their products  
and I wish that could be said for more company's.

On 07/03/2007, at 5:14 PM, David Tanner wrote:

Why doesn't that surprise me???



- Original Message -
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple


: Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have
: an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as
: inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at
: least under the windows platform.
: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't  
support them.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
: Has anyone tried it with windows
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: Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for Mac.
: 
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: Begin forwarded message:
: 
:   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on  
March 5,
:   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with  
support for
:   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
:  
:   This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4  
which
:   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
:   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
:   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and  
delivered ...
:   at long last!
:  
:   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:   represent a significant step forward from what was possible  
before.
:   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs  
from
:   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much  
more.  If
:   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
:   iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
:  
:   Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth  
the
:   accessible version of iTunes should E-mail  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and
:   thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash  
Apple
:   for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as quick to
:   express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
:  
:   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the  
iPod
:   and the iPhone accessible.
: 
: Dane Trethowan
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Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making  
excuses for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows  
users will end up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before  
too long, just be patient, can't say too much right now.
Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is?  
Because quite simply its worth making a thing about, its taken a  
while but Itunes has turned overnight from something which wasn't all  
that accessible at all (more near to totally inaccessible) to  
something which is getting to the point of being near totally  
accessible so that in itself is worth making a thing about plus the  
fact that all the hard work and all the correspondence between Apple  
and Voiceover users finally paid off, we now have a commitment on  
behalf of Apple that further development will continue etc.

On 08/03/2007, at 12:28 AM, Stephen Guerra wrote:

It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple  
where I
as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking.

Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the little
tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not,  
(meaning
Apple) are Golden Delicious.

More like rotten Macintosh!



Stephen A. Guerra
Assistive Technology Specialist
Independent Living Aids

Products for Your Active Independent Life!

200 Robbins Lane
Jericho, NY 11753
Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
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Why doesn't that surprise me???



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: Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have
: an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as
: inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at
: least under the windows platform.
: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't support
them.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
: Has anyone tried it with windows
: 
: 
: 
: Stephen A. Guerra
: Assistive Technology Specialist
: Independent Living Aids
: 
: Products for Your Active Independent Life!
: 
: 200 Robbins Lane
: Jericho, NY 11753
: Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
:Fax: (516) 937-3906
: 
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: On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM
: To: PC audio discussion list.
: Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple
: 
: Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for Mac.
: 
: 
: Begin forwarded message:
: 
:   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on  
March 5,
:   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with  
support for
:   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
:  
:   This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4  
which
:   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
:   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
:   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and  
delivered ...
:   at long last!
:  
:   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:   represent a significant step forward from what was possible  
before.
:   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs  
from
:   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much  
more.  If
:   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
:   iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
:  
:   Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth  
the
:   accessible version of iTunes should E-mail  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and
:   thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash  
Apple
:   for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as quick to
:   express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
:  
:   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the  
iPod
:   and the iPhone accessible.
: 
: Dane Trethowan
: Phone/TTY +61 3 9747 3975
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RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Jack Conti
Steve I don't see where itunes is that much more acessible, I am 
running we 6 and need to look at itunes version 7 a little 
more...  Glad they did more for somebody at least.
At 08:28 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple where I
as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking.

Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the little
tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not, (meaning
Apple) are Golden Delicious.

More like rotten Macintosh!



Stephen A. Guerra
Assistive Technology Specialist
Independent Living Aids

Products for Your Active Independent Life!

200 Robbins Lane
Jericho, NY 11753
Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
   Fax: (516) 937-3906

E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: ILASteve
Web Site:
http://www.independentliving.com
http://www.soundbytes.com


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On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple

Why doesn't that surprise me???



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From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple


: Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have
: an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as
: inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at
: least under the windows platform.
: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't support
them.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
: Has anyone tried it with windows
: 
: 
: 
: Stephen A. Guerra
: Assistive Technology Specialist
: Independent Living Aids
: 
: Products for Your Active Independent Life!
: 
: 200 Robbins Lane
: Jericho, NY 11753
: Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
:Fax: (516) 937-3906
: 
: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Skype: ILASteve
: Web Site:
: http://www.independentliving.com
: http://www.soundbytes.com
: 
: 
: -Original Message-
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: On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM
: To: PC audio discussion list.
: Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple
: 
: Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for Mac.
: 
: 
: Begin forwarded message:
: 
:   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on March 5,
:   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with support for
:   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
:  
:   This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4 which
:   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
:   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
:   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and delivered ...
:   at long last!
:  
:   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:   represent a significant step forward from what was possible before.
:   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs from
:   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much more.  If
:   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
:   iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
:  
:   Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth the
:   accessible version of iTunes should E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
:   thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash Apple
:   for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as quick to
:   express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
:  
:   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the iPod
:   and the iPhone accessible.
: 
: Dane Trethowan
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RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Jeff Bishop
The proof is in the pudding.  Apple still hasn't gotten Windows Vista
support done let alone accessibility, so I am sure it is merely a priority
for the Mac platform more then it is for the Windows platform.
 

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On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple

Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making excuses
for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users will end
up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before too long, just be
patient, can't say too much right now.
Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is?  
Because quite simply its worth making a thing about, its taken a while but
Itunes has turned overnight from something which wasn't all that accessible
at all (more near to totally inaccessible) to something which is getting to
the point of being near totally accessible so that in itself is worth making
a thing about plus the fact that all the hard work and all the
correspondence between Apple and Voiceover users finally paid off, we now
have a commitment on behalf of Apple that further development will continue
etc.

On 08/03/2007, at 12:28 AM, Stephen Guerra wrote:

It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple where I
as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking.

Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the little
tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not, (meaning
Apple) are Golden Delicious.

More like rotten Macintosh!



Stephen A. Guerra
Assistive Technology Specialist
Independent Living Aids

Products for Your Active Independent Life!

200 Robbins Lane
Jericho, NY 11753
Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
   Fax: (516) 937-3906

E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: ILASteve
Web Site:
http://www.independentliving.com
http://www.soundbytes.com


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Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple

Why doesn't that surprise me???



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: Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have
: an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as
: inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at
: least under the windows platform.
: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't support
them.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
: Has anyone tried it with windows
: 
: 
: 
: Stephen A. Guerra
: Assistive Technology Specialist
: Independent Living Aids
: 
: Products for Your Active Independent Life!
: 
: 200 Robbins Lane
: Jericho, NY 11753
: Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
:Fax: (516) 937-3906
: 
: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM
: To: PC audio discussion list.
: Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple
: 
: Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for Mac.
: 
: 
: Begin forwarded message:
: 
:   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on March 5,
:   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with support for
:   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
:  
:   This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4 which
:   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
:   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
:   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and delivered ...
:   at long last!
:  
:   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:   represent a significant step forward from what was possible before.
:   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs from
:   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much more.  If
:   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
:   iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
:  
:   Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth the
:   accessible version of iTunes should E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
:   thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash Apple
:   for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as quick to
:   express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
:  
:   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the iPod
:   and the iPhone accessible.
: 
: Dane Trethowan
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2007-03-07 Thread carl
can some one send me a coppy of winamp 5.33 pleas or a direckt link to download 
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, much more.  If
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:  
:   Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring forth the
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:   thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to bash Apple
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:   express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
:  
:   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the iPod
:   and the iPhone accessible.
: 
: Dane Trethowan
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Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
 : 
 : Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for  
 Mac.
 : 
 : 
 : Begin forwarded message:
 : 
 :   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on  
 March 5,
 :   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with  
 support for
 :   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
 :  
 :   This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X  
 10.4 which
 :   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
 :   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about  
 the
 :   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and  
 delivered ...
 :   at long last!
 :  
 :   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
 :   represent a significant step forward from what was possible  
 before.
 :   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview  
 songs from
 :   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much  
 more.  If
 :   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
 :   iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
 :  
 :   Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring  
 forth the
 :   accessible version of iTunes should E-mail  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 :   thank them for their hard work.  Many of us were quick to  
 bash Apple
 :   for not making iTunes 7 accessible.  We should be just as  
 quick to
 :   express our appreciation for iTunes 7.1.
 :  
 :   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making  
 the iPod
 :   and the iPhone accessible.
 : 
 : Dane Trethowan
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Re: wian amp

2007-03-07 Thread Dana S. Leslie
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Re: wian amp

2007-03-07 Thread Michael S. Goren
I would also like the direct link
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A tad off-topic here, but I'm part of a new station in the works. If you want 
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Re: wian amp

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Skarstad
I would think that if you go to

http://www.whitestick.co.uk
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afterall the site is maintained by and updated by a blind person, so 
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Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Skarstad
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  : Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for
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  :   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on
  March 5,
  :   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with
  support for
  :   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
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  :   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
  :   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about
  the
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  delivered ...
  :   at long last!
  :  
  :   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
  :   represent a significant step forward from what was possible
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  :   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview
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  more.  If
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  :   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making
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Re: Hats Off to Apple

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 :   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about
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 :   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and
 delivered ...
 :   at long last!
 :  
 :   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
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 :   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview
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 :   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much
 more.  If
 :   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect  
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Re: wian amp

2007-03-07 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Not that winamp.com is all that difficult, either. It just takes some 
practice. And, with the frequency of updated versions, one gets lots of 
practice.
- Original Message - 
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I would think that if you go to

 http://www.whitestick.co.uk
 you should be able to locate it. It's really not that difficult,
 afterall the site is maintained by and updated by a blind person, so
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Re: wian amp

2007-03-07 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Carl!  You can get Winamp by going to whitestick.co.uk!
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Re: Hats Off to Apple

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Re: Hats Off to Apple

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: 
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: 
:   Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on March 
5,
:   2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with support 
for
:   accessible clients such as VoiceOver.
:  
:   This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X 10.4 which
:   introduced the VoiceOver screen reader.  Since VoiceOver's
:   introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about the
:   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and delivered 
...
:   at long last!
:  
:   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:   represent a significant step forward from what was possible before.
:   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs from
:   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much more. 
If
:   iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to
:   iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product.
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:  
:   To that end, I say, Hats off!  Now please work on making the iPod
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 : Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for  
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RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Stephen Guerra
 is still the lose, at
: least under the windows platform.
: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't support
them.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
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: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
: Has anyone tried it with windows
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:   desire for an accessible iTunes.  Apple has listened and delivered 
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:  
:   While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does
:   represent a significant step forward from what was possible before.
:   Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview songs from
:   the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much more. 
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Re: OT interested in joining a new station?

2007-03-07 Thread Peter Scanlon
What sort of station?

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windows media 11 file associations

2007-03-07 Thread don bishop
I asked this question yesterday with no response, so let me try
again and hopefully state the problem more clearly.

I have a desktop machine running Windows Vista and Windows Media
Player 11.  I prefer winamp, so installed it on the machine and
under file types I selected all for the file associations.  

If I play mp3 files from within wimamp they play just fine, but if
I simply hit enter on the file I want from windows explorer, the
file plays in windows media.  

I can't seem to find the place in wmp 11 to change the file
associations settings in order to prevent wmp from automatically
play the mp3's.  

Does anyone know how I can get the files to play automatically in
winamp?  


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RE: windows media 11 file associations

2007-03-07 Thread Reed Poynter
Hi Don,

I don't know about Vista, but, in XP, you can go to the control panel,
folder options, file types tab, down-arrow to MP3 and specify the program to
use when opening the MP3.

Vista must have something similar.
Reed  

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Subject: windows media 11 file associations 

I asked this question yesterday with no response, so let me try again and
hopefully state the problem more clearly.

I have a desktop machine running Windows Vista and Windows Media Player 11.
I prefer winamp, so installed it on the machine and under file types I
selected all for the file associations.  

If I play mp3 files from within wimamp they play just fine, but if I simply
hit enter on the file I want from windows explorer, the file plays in
windows media.  

I can't seem to find the place in wmp 11 to change the file associations
settings in order to prevent wmp from automatically play the mp3's.  

Does anyone know how I can get the files to play automatically in winamp?  


Thanks,

Don





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Itunes for Windows accessability issues

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ok, I've spoken to my source regarding accessability for Itunes under  
windows, they inform me that if you have Window-Eyes then Itunes  
should be fully accessible, JAWS has a few issues to be resolved,  
Freedom Scientific are aware of these so its up to them to fix them.
So, off to the junkbox again to spend more time with this myself to  
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Re: OT interested in joining a new station?

2007-03-07 Thread Byron Stephens
I'll tell you more off-list, because it will save list clutter. My email 
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Skype Version 3.1.0.134 Beta is now Available

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Pattison
Skype version 3.1.0.134 beta is now available and one place where you 
can download it from is at 
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Skype_for_Windows/1062684717/1. 
Here are the changes in this version:

feature: Skype Prime
change: Plugin Manager updated 1.1.0.237
bugfix: SkypePM.exe may have shown a 'DLL Initialization Failed' 
error message on
shutting down Windows.
bugfix: SkypeFind: search for umlaut characters from tab did not work
bugfix: SkypeIn call trayalert was wrong
bugfix: Typing indicator: behaviour incorrect when typing was stopped
bugfix: API: sometimes GROUPS gave wrong data about USERS and NROFUSERS


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Podcast Receivers

2007-03-07 Thread Brandon Hicks
Hi all,
I've got a question about podcast receivers. I've currently got the 
latest version of Juice. It's downloaded partial podcast files and 
called them complete. It also claims partial downloads that aren't 
anywhere on my computer. Is this expected behavior, the fault of my 
dial-up connection or something totally out there?
Regardless, does anyone have any suggestions for other JFW 7 friendly 
podcast receivers?
On a related, but not pc audio topic, what about RSS receivers. I saw a 
demo of the Icon recently, and the podcasts and RSS were integrated into 
one client. Is that done in any for the PC? And if so, do any of them 
work with JAWS and cash the RSS articles?

I'm relatively new to the whole thing, but I want to get started.
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Re: Nero Version Question

2007-03-07 Thread Kelly Pierce
Nero 5.9 also works great too.  

Kelly 


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 Hi Dan,
 Nero6 works the best with jaws.
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Re: Nero Version Question

2007-03-07 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi Kelly,
anything below Nero7, works well, if you can get it.
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 Nero 5.9 also works great too.  
 
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 Nero6 works the best with jaws.
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Re: Nero Version Question

2007-03-07 Thread Mr. Bill
Hi I think it can be downloaded at www.usedversion.comAt 03:23 AM 
3/8/2007, you wrote:
Hi Kelly,
anything below Nero7, works well, if you can get it.
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  Nero6 works the best with jaws.
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