RE: accessible digital recorder with editing
If this has been covered, I apologize in advance. I know the Zoom makes very nice recordings at a great price, and I also have seen blind people using them effectively. If price is not a primary consideration, do any of the more accessible recorders make recordings that are as high in quality? In other words, what makes it worth giving up more accessible menus? Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 11:13 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: accessible digital recorder with editing No, the H1 doesn't have a Pre-record buffer but i'm sure some of the other Zoom models do. The H1 for waht it is presents a very basic audio recorder designed to do a job and do it very well, record audio at a very bargain basement price though there's nothing bargain basement about the recordings theZoom H1 makes. On 11/10/2017 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > I could be wrong but I believe the H1 has pre record too. I'll have to > re listen to Neal's podcast. By the way for the person who started > this thread define accessable. These recorders are cirtainly usable as > Neal and Dain and others use them. But you must be able to deal with > remembering menus remembering where you are at what time, and deal > with the fact that there's no sound period at all. I just bring this > up cause I sometimes turn off the beeps on my LS-14 i almost said 100. > I wish I had a 100. But anyways I turn off the beeps on the 14 and I > sometimes can get thrown off by not hearing anything. I guess in a > sence I've been spoiled by using stuff like a Plextalk most of the > time. So yeah let's not forget what 1 person calls accessible may not > be to someone else. > > > On 11/9/2017 3:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> The whole point of these digital recorders is to “Record” audio and >> then use with a computer afterwards if necessary for editing, >> organisation, tweaking of Audio characteristics and so on. >> All the recorders I have - Zoom H1, Sony PCM-d50 and Olympus DM4 - >> have capabilities to create new files on the fly or mark positions >> within the file at the push of a button. >> As far as I know the PCM-d50 is the only recorder I own with the >> “Pre-Record Buffer” which is dead handy when you’re making live >> recordings, never miss a thing! >> Good luck if you can find a Sony PCM-d50 . And if you do find >> one then you’ve certainly struck gold! >> >> >> ** >> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s >> you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.” >> >> >> >> >>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:49 pm, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Dane & list >>> Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing >>> capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir >>> master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake >>> she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new >>> file. They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping the >>> recording and rewind to just before the error and then resume. Does >>> one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy for lawyers and >>> doctors. >>> Regards >>> Fanus > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" **
Sound Forge Requiring Administrator
I have not been able to receive messages for a while from this list so apologize in advance if this has come up recently. After upgrading to Windows 10, I can only run Sound Forge 11 as administrator. When I do not do that, I get a dialog asking me to register, but when I press "NEXT" it seems to just disappear. This did not happen immediately after my upgrade, but this started happening several weeks after my upgrade to Windows 10. Has anybody found a way to fix this? Running as administrator works, but I would like to get back to being able to run it normally. Best regards, Steve Jacobson
RE: Adobe Audition
Dave, It would be nice if we get someone with current information, but I can provide a little. Starting with version 3 of Adobe Audition, they began displaying some data on the screen using a method that is generally not picked up by screen readers. I used Audition a lot before that version but switched to Sound Forge. However, it is my understanding that they have done a pretty good job over time of making data that is not picked up by screen readers available through MSAA and UIA. While this is very good, it generally means that one probably will have to get scripts to get at this information. It is my understanding that there are JAWS scripts but they may not be free. The bottom line is that Adobe Audition is probably worth checking out to see if you can do what you need to do with it, but the experience may be somewhat different than with sound forge. I would be very curious to know what you are required to do with Adobe Audition that you can't do with Sound Forge. There were things I felt were easier to do with Audition, and I still sometimes get a little frustrated with selecting portions of a file with Sound Forge and wonder if I should check out Audition again. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave Marthouse Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Adobe Audition I have been a SoundeForge user since the early 2000's and am extremely satisfied with the product. However, I may have a specific requirement for Adobe Audition in the future. Does anyone on this list use that app and if so is the accessibility good? Any information would be appreciated. -- Dave Marthouse dmartho...@gmail.com
RE: Issues with Mic Echo
Danny, I listened with headphones thinking that would be the best way to detect a subtle echo. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:00 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Issues with Mic Echo Hi Steve. Thank you for taking the time to listen and respond. I'm afraid I wasn't given any more info on the issue but I was surprised that such an issue was raised. Out of interest, did you listen with or without headphones (or both)? Many thanks - take care. Danny On 4/21/17, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacob...@visi.com> wrote: > Danny, > > I listened to the attached file and did not hear any echo nor did I observe > any noticeable popping. In particular, I noticed the letter "P" in the word > "example" and that seemed to have been handled fine. I wonder what sort of > echo was observed? > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny > Miles > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 2:42 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Issues with Mic Echo > > Hi everyone. Apologies if this post strays off-topic - I believe it's > relevant to the list so I've put it here but I guess it might be > debatable. > > I've been setting up to work in audiobook narration and I recently > made a demo recording. One of the bits of feedback that I got > suggested that there was echo on the recording, even though I > deliberately purchased the Fame Mic Reflexion Screen Pro Set to > prevent this from happening. Also, despite using a wind screen (pop > shield), there are occasional popping sounds. > > Personally, although I can hear the pops, I can't tell that there is > any echo, but this may be because my ears simply aren't finely tuned. > I'd be grateful if anyone who has the time and inclination could > please listen to the file and tell me whether or not there appears to > be echo and how I might be able to correct issues with both the echo > and the popping ... bearing in mind that I'm using products to reduce > both (perhaps there are positional issues or something else?). > Additionally, although I know it's not an audio-related question > related to this list, if anyone would be kind enough to give feedback > on the quality (or lack of quality) of the narration itself that would > also be much appreciated. > > If anyone is happy to assist, the file can be found at > https://www.dropbox.com/s/mjfsty22x0sz1wv/Danny%20Miles%20-%20How%20To%20Exercise.mp3?dl=0 > > Many thanks in advance for any help. > > Take care, Danny > > > > -- > Danny Miles > Mobile: > +44(0)7926 972762 > Email: > toptunesda...@gmail.com > Twitter: > http://www.Twitter.com/TopTunesDanny > Facebook: > http://www.Facebook.com/AbilityGateway > Skype: > TopTunesDanny > > > > > -- Danny Miles Mobile: +44(0)7926 972762 Email: toptunesda...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.Twitter.com/TopTunesDanny Facebook: http://www.Facebook.com/AbilityGateway Skype: TopTunesDanny
RE: Issues with Mic Echo
Danny, I listened to the attached file and did not hear any echo nor did I observe any noticeable popping. In particular, I noticed the letter "P" in the word "example" and that seemed to have been handled fine. I wonder what sort of echo was observed? Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 2:42 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Issues with Mic Echo Hi everyone. Apologies if this post strays off-topic - I believe it's relevant to the list so I've put it here but I guess it might be debatable. I've been setting up to work in audiobook narration and I recently made a demo recording. One of the bits of feedback that I got suggested that there was echo on the recording, even though I deliberately purchased the Fame Mic Reflexion Screen Pro Set to prevent this from happening. Also, despite using a wind screen (pop shield), there are occasional popping sounds. Personally, although I can hear the pops, I can't tell that there is any echo, but this may be because my ears simply aren't finely tuned. I'd be grateful if anyone who has the time and inclination could please listen to the file and tell me whether or not there appears to be echo and how I might be able to correct issues with both the echo and the popping ... bearing in mind that I'm using products to reduce both (perhaps there are positional issues or something else?). Additionally, although I know it's not an audio-related question related to this list, if anyone would be kind enough to give feedback on the quality (or lack of quality) of the narration itself that would also be much appreciated. If anyone is happy to assist, the file can be found at https://www.dropbox.com/s/mjfsty22x0sz1wv/Danny%20Miles%20-%20How%20To%20Exercise.mp3?dl=0 Many thanks in advance for any help. Take care, Danny -- Danny Miles Mobile: +44(0)7926 972762 Email: toptunesda...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.Twitter.com/TopTunesDanny Facebook: http://www.Facebook.com/AbilityGateway Skype: TopTunesDanny
RE: You're So Glad You're Living In The USA!
Dane, Have you seen anything on the release of their HD component tuner? Best regards, Steve Jacobson Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: You're So Glad You're Living In The USA! And you have every reason to be glad - if you like radio that is -. Tomorrow sees the long awaited release of the Sangean HDR16 HD Stereo Portable radio. I don't have details on this radio at present but I certainly will have shortly as a friend of mine will be paying a visit to a retailer to pick one up so it won't be long till Universal Radio start stocking them and we start seeing reviews. All i can say is - if its a Sangean product - then we're sure to see something good and worth having. So now we know why Donald Trump spoke to the President of Tiawan, he wanted to be sure that the good quality radio sets from Sangean kept flowing to the US, Sangean is a Taiwanese company just in case you didn't know and they've been in the business of making radio sets and other communications equipment since 1974.
RE: Sanjean 909X
Casey, Medium Wave is how most of the world refers to what we call the AM band here in North America. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Casey Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Sanjean 909X hi you told us how the medium wave and shortwave is on the telescopic antenna. So how is the F.M on the antenna that comes with the radio? And how is the A.m band on the radio not the shortwave band the A.M band is that just as good and sensitive as a lot of radio or better? -- Casey
RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Was it specified whether there is still a lightning connector, or is charging done wirelessly as well? Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:04 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced To be honest I don't really much care. Other than the fact that oh so now what? What of the analog head phones I have? But I for 1 wanna cut the cord anyways. Wires are annoying. They tangel they can break and so on. So what evs. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:39 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Ah, but now with the removal of the 3.5mm jack you'll be able to listen underwater... (smiles) -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL Sent: 08 September 2016 01:52 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Actually, there's a difference between "whining" and legitimate complaints about a feature that one values that is now lost. If I were gaining something substantial by losing the headphone jack I'd feel better about it, but I'm losing a substantial capability -- the ability to use headphones and charge my phone at the same time. As I said, I take train trips lasting several hours and listen to books, etc, while charging my phone. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 8:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Whilst I don�t travel on planes I do have a hearing impairment -a profound one at that - thus I believe I�m in a position to comment as I have done. There are ways around the charging problem as you put it, I�ve seen cases already that have one or two additional lightning dock connectors. As far as listening on a plan goes? Well my hearing instruments I reckon would be up to the job not that I�ve had absolute personal experience in this area given its a bit risky flying on planes with my particular hearing condition but that�s bye the bye and not of particular interest to this list. I think the main problem here is that a lot of folks would rather just whine about it all. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:28 AM, JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net> wrote: > > What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of > hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the > ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. > I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of > "thinness". > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit > Campos > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue > tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they > didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like > wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo > Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that > they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider > at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always > tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the > ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've > done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare > for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se > la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Indeed it has and no real surprises. > The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo > speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that > can only be a plus. > According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, > a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, > interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Blueto
RE: The evolution of Spotify
Dane, What does Spotify support for bit rates now? Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 3:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: The evolution of Spotify Hi! If you've not taken a serious look at the Spotify Music platform in a good while - and you like your music just the way you want it and not how your local radio station wants it - then take a good look at the modern Spotify. I won't go into all the changes I noticed since I last saw it before today but the changes are numerous and these changes have really given me something to think about regarding the other Music services I'm subscribed to, it might very well be that you'll find that Spotify will provide your each and every need for your music listening habits. particularly if you're a Spotify Premium user. I used the Spotify IOS App to do my exploration, I found accessibility to be first class. Right now I'm listening to the "Soft Rock" playlist on Spotify through a Spotify connect device, the Sangean WRF28D portable radio. Connecting the device wasn't hard to do, I just selected Spotify from the Source list for the radio using the Undok App, I then opened the Spotify App from Undok and used the Connect icon at the bottom of the screen to locate the radio, the music started playing through it when I double-tapped the "Play" icon.
RE: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes
Peter, I didn't notice any disadvantages but I probably don't use Sound Forge at the level that some of you do. At some point, I started having trouble with selecting audio with mark in and mark out, and I don't know what the source of that trouble is. I think I had that trouble with Sound Forge 10, though, as well. I also can't say that I found any advantages, either. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Scanlon Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:42 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: RE: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes Are their any disadvantages in going to SF11 from SF10? P. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2016 10:34 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: RE: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes Ah cool. I understand. Well if it does work with Win Eyes any more than it already kinda did that's epic! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 10:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes As I said, I wouldn’t have a clue, just passing on a details I received this morning. > On 21 Jul 2016, at 12:36 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What do you mean? SF 11 works with Window-Eyes? That's interesting if so. > I've used 11 much easyer than 10. You don't have to hit control r than > alt r to record. Just control R and you're off to the races. lol > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Dane Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:18 PM > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org > Subject: Sound Forge Pro 11 Window-Eyes > > This has just been approved for Window-eyes though don't know how good > it is or what it does as I don't use Sound Foge 11 and - as far as I > know - I've no plans to ever use it . > > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone
A normal headphone jack such as the type that fits into devices such as MP3 players, the Victor Reader Stream or the BookSense devices will fit the iPhone 5, but some of the cases for iPhones will not allow them to be pushed in far enough. I am guessing that this is what you are encountering. What happens is that the connector part of the jack fits, but the plastic around the plug is too large to fit into the slot of the case. . You may have to either partly open or remove the case or find headphones that have a plug with a smaller plastic surround. Standard headphones are starting to come with slimmer plugs, but that isn't of much help if you already have headphones with a plug having a larger body. The bottom line here to be clear is that there are two separate issues. Is the plug the correct size to fit the jack in the iPhone, and will the case on your iPhone let the plug be pushed in far enough. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 5:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: RE: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone This is an iPhone 5, and a normal jack won't fit its headphone/earphone receptor. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: How to connect regular headphones to an iPhone Normally you just plug them in assuming the jack of your headphones is a 3.5MM jack. If the jack is larger then you’ll have to buy an adapter which can be purchased at your local electronics store. Connecting a standard set of headphones means that you’ll have to answer a call on your iPhone on the iPhone itself, control music playback and volume from the iPhone itself and use the iPhones own microphone. Some headphones such as the B P7’s come with interchangeable leads, one specifically for an IOS/Android device and the other specifically for connection to a stereo system. > On 26 Apr 2016, at 4:44 AM, Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com> wrote: > > I'm guessing there's a connector that enables you to connect headphones with > regular jacks to iPhones. I'm hopeless at technical jargon. If there is such > a connector, could someone say exactly what I should look for on, say, Amazon? ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
High Quality Music Streams
Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer. It appears to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as I understand it. Do those here have experience with other high quality download or streaming music sites that are not particular about the hardware used? Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to take full advantage of such sources. Best regards, Steve Jacobson
RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
Dane and others, This is a valuable thread and I hope we can continue with some serious discussion because it seems to me that a lot gets glossed over. I started out with CoolEdit and stuck with it when it became Audition 1.0 and also 1.5 from Adobe. It wasn't perfect, but it could do a lot, and it was pretty accessible. Then came Audition 2.0 which displayed everything differently and it was suddenly not accessible. At that point, I switched to Sound Forge. While I certainly fall into the category of hoping a new version of Sound Forge will be more accessible, I am also relieved when a new version doesn't make inaccessible that which I already know as Audition did. There is also a tendency on my part to feel that since I've already made an investment in money and also in time to learn the software, that I tend to stick with new versions. Still, I would never say that Sound Forge is the best audio editor for us. If someone gets what they want from another editor that is more accessible, they are going to experience a good deal less frustration. Even so, it does seem to me that there is a lot being said without looking at details. More than once, in my frustration with Sound Forge, I've tried something else and found it did a specific thing I was looking for but didn't do something else I needed. I've also seen cases where what Sound Forge gives me that is not readily accessible, are sometimes things I don't see offered at all in some other programs. I mentioned a couple of days back that I was trying to dynamically expand some compressed audio and I could find no accessible way to do it with Sound forge. I developed an expansion preset using an Optacon, a difficult process, but I can now use that preset to accomplish some of what I wanted. When I last checked, I didn't find that I could expand data with a couple of the popular programs. In one case, the expansion I was told could be done by another package was for expanding the sound field, not the dynamic range. I also found that I got results with the Sound Forge Noise Reduction plug-in that to my ear, I could not achieve with a couple of other programs. It wasn't that they didn't reduce noise, they did that very well. One of the four noise reduction modes that Sound Forge had, though, allowed me to get rid of more noise with less side effects. I could not find anything that worked as well in that particular case. I developed a process in Sound Forge that I use on meetings that does a nice job of bringing up the audio gain for questions off mike that sounds a lot like someone manually adjusting the gain. It delays compression and then after a couple of seconds brings up the gain. Other programs had similar effects, but I could just never quite get the same results. So what's my point, I know I'm sounding like I'm saying that Sound Forge is the best. That's not what I mean to say. Where my frustration is that I keep reading here that program a does something as well as Sound Forge does, and program B does something else as good. What I have not felt has been said specifically is where there is a program that does everything Sound Forge does for me and also does some of what Sound Forge does in a more accessible way. So SWave can edit as tightly. That is good to know, but what else does it do? Does anybody have experience with the latest version of Audition with the latest screen reader support for it? Is it worth a look? I tried it a while back and much of what was lost is now made accessible using MSAA or UIA, but I still found gaps. I took a close look at Audacity plug-ins a while back and I found a huge number of them. However, it seemed like many were made to deal with very specific problems, and in my searching, I didn't find anything that would dynamically expand audio, either accessible or not. It is fine to say there are many other options, and I wouldn't argue with that at all. It's just that in my experience, it seems as though I would have to use many other options to do what I am managing to do with Sound Forge with all of its accessibility issues. I would like to hop onto another band wagon, especially if it was better and cheaper, but it would be helpful if we didn't each have to try five different programs to find out what each will or not do. Has anyone found Audacity plug-ins that are particularly useful? What else does SWave do? I know that Total Recorder can record pretty much any audio that comes into a computer, can be set up for timed recording, and can be used to edit, but does it have other audio functions? Gold wave does a lot of things well. Can anyone who used Sound Forge and moved to Gold Wave talk about what is better and what isn't? It would be helpful to get some specifics from people who use various tools. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
Brian, I am using Sony Sound Forge 11, and I definitely see some issues, particularly with plug-ins, that make it less accessible. However, would you mind talking about what else doesn't work as well in Sound Forge 11? It is nice to know when a difficulty I'm having is my fault or when I can blame Sony. Also, I am not always sure when something might be due to a screen reader limitation. For example, I am having some trouble selecting audio with Mark in and Mark Out in that they just don't seem to take effect sometimes. Something is probably happening visually that is pretty self-explanatory, but it goes right past me. I do not remember having a similar problem with older versions of Sound Forge, but it doesn't seem likely this is an accessibility thing. Finally, I have worked some to dynamically expand audio to try to decompress some old DBX recordings where I don't have a functioning DBX encoder/decoder. I do not see any way to expand audio with any version of Sound Forge without graphically manipulating the envelope. I have managed to do that with the help of an Optacon, but it wasn't easy. Have you found other ways of accomplishing dynamic expansion with any version of Sound Forge? Best regards, Steve Jacobson Best regards, Steve -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:35 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily I agree that Amadeus Pro is ideal on the Mac side, I've used it and it works very well. On Windows, in terms of serious audio production without vision, there is nothing that beats Sound Forge V8 if you can get it, V9 and above have serious accessibility issues in my view and, despite me reporting these to Sony, they've not been fixed. On Windows, for multi-track work I use Sonar 8.5. Again, it's excellent and allows you to be very precise in terms of achieving a good overall balance of tracks. I like to be very precise with my editing, and Sonar does not quite give me the flexibility that Sound Forge does, but we do use Sonar a lot. Brian Hartgen Hartgen Consultancy www.hartgen.org Phone UK: 02920-850298. Phone US: 415-871-0626 JAWS Certified, 2015. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then you’re money is well and truly wastedsmile, Total Recorder for example records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge Pro 11 a person without sight can make use of? If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com wrote: Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're capturing. I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Ripping With WMP
Gary, There are two approaches to ripping CD's in Windows Media Player of which I am aware. In another note, you were referred to the Ripping tab of the options dialog. On that tap, you can check a box that will rip CD's automatically when you insert one. It will check first to be sure it was not already ripped. You can also specify what type of files will be created on that tab. This works good if you are ripping a bunch of them at once. If you don't want to rip automatically, make sure the associated checkbox is not cheched. When you insert a CD, you should be focused on the Now Playing tab of Windows Media Player. If you are not on that tab, pressing CONTROL-3 should bring you there. Once the CD is playing, you should find a Rip CD button by tabbing around that dialog. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:35:31 -0400, Gary Petraccaro wrote: Running Win7 64-bit and can't find how to rip to mp3 using WMP. Would appreciate either simple instructions or being pointed to a tutorial. Thanks.
Re: horus: the invisible made audio, please please read and share
Someone asked if these links could be passed on to the National Federation of the Blind. I can send them to our RD committee for its consideration. However, when I reviewed the web site, it looks to me as though there are some pretty solid goals and general product design decisions, but it does not seem as though it is built on anything existing. Therefore, I don't know that I see what is all that amazing at this point. Still, it is worth watching. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 15:06:22 +, Robert Godridge wrote: here's a link to much more information on it etc, it really is incredible. http://crowdfunding.wcap.tim.it/projects/270/horuslng=2 On 12/28/14, Robert Godridge rgodrid...@gmail.com wrote: guys, I was shown this earlier and I am absolutely amazed. Please read it, what do you think? http://horus.technology/en/the-project/ I don't know how much money they need but it must be done by the end of the month I think. What do you reckon?
RE: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.
Tina, My experience with Sound Forge 11 has been primarily with Window-Eyes although I am somewhat familiar with JFW and I know a little about Jim SnowBarger's scripts. I have not had the problem you indicate and have not observed any differences in that regard between Sound Forge 10 and 11. Having said that, though, there are a huge number of options that can have all different kinds of effects. While I can't think of one that should just arbitrarily put you at the beginning of the file, I have had some options cause some strange things to happen. For example, I brought a file I created in Sound Forge 10 into Sound Forge 11, and none of the over 50 markers I had set worked. Wow, was I mad, Why didn't they keep compatibility, and on and on. I went back and finished in Sound Forge 10. I found out later by accident, that pressing the letter x changes the play mode. It causes markers to be ignored in favor of other parameters. I went back to that old Sound Forge 10 file, brought it into version 11, and what do you know, all of the markers worked flawlessly. I am not saying that some of what others have found is not true, because my use of Sound Forge is not as complex as some of the others here. However, if one is going to use a program like this successfully, it is worth learning as much about it as you can. I think getting version 10 now might be difficult, for one thing. Yet, if you are having good luck with Sound Forge 8, you might be best served to stick with it if it works with your hardware. The old version I was using did not work on 64-bit systems, as I recall, or it wasn't compatible with something in Windows 7, I don't remember any more, but I was forced to switch. You will probably be forced to switch from Sound Forge 8 to something newer at some point, too, but it might not happen for a while. If I were you, though, since you've spent the money, I'd investigate it a little more before giving up. You can probably have both versions on your computer so it might not have to be all of one or the other. I know I can have versions 10 and 11 both on my computer at once. You might also want to be sure you have the latest scripts or whether there is anything you have to do to make them work with version 11, but you've probably done that. Checking to see which cursor snapping options are in effect could make a difference as well. Others who are more into Sound Forge 11 may have other advice as well, and I may simply not have encountered what some have because I tend to be working with two track recordings. Good luck. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 22:28:26 -0700, Tina Wilson wrote: Hi Steve, All of this stuff is so crazy. I used Jaws 14 tonight instead of Jaws 15 with Sound Forge 11 and Jim Snhowberger's scripts, and the editing worked a little better, but I still had to keep bringing it back to the spot that I wanted to edit because when I would use the number arrow keys, it wanted to bring me right back to the front of the file. It took me almost two hours to edit a job which probably should have only taken a half hour because it wasn't that big of a job. So right now, I hate all of this. But I do think you are right. The sound quality is no different in Sound Forge 11 Pro. Tina -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:26 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. Tina, Sorry, my question was not very clear. Someone said you should go for Sound Forge 10 instead of 11, but I upgraded from 10 to 11 and didn't notice anything that worked worse, so I wondered why the suggestion to go back to 10. You would probably have trouble finding 10. Before Sound Forge 10, I used an older version, but I think it was perhaps version 6, so I don't know what features version 8 has. However going from version 6 to 10, I did gain some integrated capability to create CD's which I have found convenient. As far as I can tell, though, the general sound and the Noise Reduction plug-in have not really changed. It could be that you already had some of the features that I appreciated in version 10 in your version 8, though. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:20:00 -0700, Tina Wilson wrote: Hi Steve, I've only used 8 and 11, and I don't notice any difference in the sound itself after the recordings have been completed at all. Tina -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. I'm curious why, I don't notice much difference between Sound Forge 10 and 11. Could you explain? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:06:42 +1000
Copying CD's using Windows 7
I had a program on my computer that I regularly used to copy an entire cd to another CD, but it turned out that it was apparently a long trial and it has expired. I don't do this very often so I'm not particularly concerned about doing this easily, and I'm not particularly anxious to get another program for the few times I do this. However, there is likely a way to do this in Windows 7, and I've tried a couple of approaches without success. Is there a way to copy an entire CD to another without ripping and then burning using Windows 7 functions? Best regards, Steve Jacobson
Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.
Thanks and that is interesting. I've had some unpredictability when trying to select audio, but it seemed as though I had the same problems with both 10 and 11. I didn't remember having the problem with the version I had before that, but as said elsewhere, I think that may have been version 6. Also, I am using Window-Eyes, but I wouldn't think the screen reader would have an effect on the issues you mentioned. Thanks for explaining. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:22:11 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote: Well I had a varioety of issues, with playing, cursor movements, and heard that others had simillar issues so I gave upp. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. I'm curious why, I don't notice much difference between Sound Forge 10 and 11. Could you explain? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:06:42 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote: Go back to SF 10. -Original Message- From: Tina Wilson Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:51 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. Hi everyone, I'm wondering if anyone has used Sound Forge 11 Pro with Windows 7 and Jaws 15. I seem to have problems with the programs not interacting well, and I do a lot of recording and editing for my voiceover profession. I am wondering if someone could tell me which version of Jaws would work best with Sound Forge 11 Pro. Thanks. Tina
RE: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.
Tina, Sorry, my question was not very clear. Someone said you should go for Sound Forge 10 instead of 11, but I upgraded from 10 to 11 and didn't notice anything that worked worse, so I wondered why the suggestion to go back to 10. You would probably have trouble finding 10. Before Sound Forge 10, I used an older version, but I think it was perhaps version 6, so I don't know what features version 8 has. However going from version 6 to 10, I did gain some integrated capability to create CD's which I have found convenient. As far as I can tell, though, the general sound and the Noise Reduction plug-in have not really changed. It could be that you already had some of the features that I appreciated in version 10 in your version 8, though. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:20:00 -0700, Tina Wilson wrote: Hi Steve, I've only used 8 and 11, and I don't notice any difference in the sound itself after the recordings have been completed at all. Tina -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. I'm curious why, I don't notice much difference between Sound Forge 10 and 11. Could you explain? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:06:42 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote: Go back to SF 10. -Original Message- From: Tina Wilson Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:51 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. Hi everyone, I'm wondering if anyone has used Sound Forge 11 Pro with Windows 7 and Jaws 15. I seem to have problems with the programs not interacting well, and I do a lot of recording and editing for my voiceover profession. I am wondering if someone could tell me which version of Jaws would work best with Sound Forge 11 Pro. Thanks. Tina
Re: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions.
I'm curious why, I don't notice much difference between Sound Forge 10 and 11. Could you explain? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:06:42 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote: Go back to SF 10. -Original Message- From: Tina Wilson Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:51 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: I'm new to this list, and I have some Sound Forge questions. Hi everyone, I'm wondering if anyone has used Sound Forge 11 Pro with Windows 7 and Jaws 15. I seem to have problems with the programs not interacting well, and I do a lot of recording and editing for my voiceover profession. I am wondering if someone could tell me which version of Jaws would work best with Sound Forge 11 Pro. Thanks. Tina
Re: Toslink connector question
Thanks, and yes, that's what I referred to as the optical connector, optical as in using optical fiber, but the content is digital audio. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:49:43 -0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote: The toslink connector is the small rather square indentation immediately to the left of the HDMI connector if the box is oriented so that the connectors are facing you. I realize that that is the back of the box, but when messing with the connections, I turn the box so that the connectors are facing me. Don Roberts On 7/18/2014 11:39 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote: Apple TV has no analog outputs that I know of but which is the connector that you are referring to as TOSLINK? Is that the optical connection? There are a number of ways to get analog output from your Apple TV. If your TV is connected using the HDMI cable, it is also decoding the audio. Even though the TV's sound is not good, it may have audio outputs that could go to your stereo receiver. There are also converters that will convert a digital optical output signal to an analog signal. Using one of these will also work. There are also converters that will convert an HDMI output to analog video and audio. This would degrade your picture, though, but the audio is pretty good. I am using one of these since my TV and receiver are old. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:28:10 -0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote: This question pertains to the toslink connector on my Apple TV box. Is the signal which comes from the Apple TV's toslink connector a digital signal or an analog signal? If digital, then I need to convert it to analog as my receiver is quite old and has no digital inputs, only RCA analog inputs. I do realize that I could listen to the television set's audio, but I do not choose to do so as my TV has the dubious distinction of producing the tinniest audio I have ever heard. Thanks. Don Roberts
Re: Toslink connector question
Apple TV has no analog outputs that I know of but which is the connector that you are referring to as TOSLINK? Is that the optical connection? There are a number of ways to get analog output from your Apple TV. If your TV is connected using the HDMI cable, it is also decoding the audio. Even though the TV's sound is not good, it may have audio outputs that could go to your stereo receiver. There are also converters that will convert a digital optical output signal to an analog signal. Using one of these will also work. There are also converters that will convert an HDMI output to analog video and audio. This would degrade your picture, though, but the audio is pretty good. I am using one of these since my TV and receiver are old. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:28:10 -0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote: This question pertains to the toslink connector on my Apple TV box. Is the signal which comes from the Apple TV's toslink connector a digital signal or an analog signal? If digital, then I need to convert it to analog as my receiver is quite old and has no digital inputs, only RCA analog inputs. I do realize that I could listen to the television set's audio, but I do not choose to do so as my TV has the dubious distinction of producing the tinniest audio I have ever heard. Thanks. Don Roberts
Re: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11
Kelly, There are definitely simpler programs than Sound Forge, and if you can get version 6 to run then you have it made. There are a lot of options that can affect how Sound Forge 11 works and some of what you are experiencing probably is caused by options chosen. I occasionally have been fooled by the selection process in Sound Forge 10 and 11 and have found answers to some of my issues and believe that there is probably still something I don't understand about selecting data rather than it being a program bug. If you decide you have to go back to Sound Forge 11, we might be able to work through some of it. Otherwise, Gold Wave and Audacity are both options that others have had good luck with besides MP3Cut. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:02:56 -0600, Kelly Sapergia wrote: Hi All, Thanks for all the messages about Sound Forge Pro 11. I do a lot of editing of WAV files, and so far this version is proving, at least for me, to be an utter disaster! Sometimes I can get it to do what I want, but while editing material out of a large WAV file just now, it wasn't removing everything that was selected, or else forgetting where I put a marker, and selecting an earlier portion of the file as a result. What used to be a simple task in 6.0D is taking longer to accomplish in 11, and there's no reason for it. It's because of all these issues that I'm going back to 6.0D, assuming it will run on Windows 7. If it ends up not working with this system, I'll definitely be looking for an alternative product, but right now I've had enough. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia
RE: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11
Bob, These are all very good points. I'd like to explain a bit more about my earlier response in case it helps Kelly. I was editing a four hour MP3 file over the weekend, and I was finding everything to be very sluggish including moving through the file with PGUP and PGDN. Since I had worked with some other large files in SF 11 I wondered what had changed. It turned out that I had generally worked with WAV files before. I saved my MP3 file as a WAV file and worked on it in that format and much of the sluggishness I was experiencing was gone. Of course, converting an MP3 file to WAV doesn't make it sound any better, but it did make a large difference in my ability to move around in the file. It may be my imagination as it is not that easy to verify this, but I believe that saving a file takes longer in SF 11 than it did in SF 10 or before, but I could be experiencing something else, or it could be the added overhead that you mention. It has been my experience that heavy file activity can lock out screen readers or make them not responsive, so saving a file might be causing the appearance of loosing speech. Sometimes starting NVDA or Narrator can help one figure out what is happening. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:13:34 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote: SF 11 is a far more complex program than SF 6. The way that SF handles the file being edited has changed because it is now a multi-channel editor and every time you do something that causes SF to write out the edited files to protect you from yourself, it takes time to complete the process. How quick the process will be is dependent on the read/write speed of your hard disk. If you are working on a large file, that is to say, 4 or 5 hour mp3, then it will appear to be slow. The only setting that you might change is the location of temporary files. If you use a separate drive for the temporary files, there may be some gain but that will depend on the read/write sppeed. And, no, using a solid state drive will not really improve things that much because the Windows way of reading and writing to disk pretty well negates any gain there may be in using a SSD. The mp3 codec does appear to be slower than in SF 6 but you must remember that the program is doing a lot more processing than SF 6 did. Opening, editing and saving in wav format may be slightly quicker but you will eventually have to convert it to mp3. However, I find that for files of an hour or less the performance is on a par with SF 8D. The moral of the story may well be that the Sony people did not anticipate that SF would be used to edit 7 or 8 hour long files. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 1:38 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11 Hi, After recently getting a new 64-bit PC with Windows 7 Professional, I decided to upgrade Sound Forge from 6.0D (which I've used for a number of years) to the latest version, Pro 11. However, I've noticed that this new version seems to be rather sluggish when compared to 6.0D. For instance, if I have two files loaded, and I switch to the other file by either using the Window menu or pressing Control+Tab, it seems to take awhile before I can do anything again. With 6.0D, going to a new window was instantaneous. There have also been times where I'll be doing some editing, and the program will seem to freeze for a couple minutes. When this happens, I lose speech, but can Alt+Tab to another program, such as WinAmp. Eventually, everything works fine again, but I find this very frustrating. If anyone else is using this version, have you experienced these issues? Are there any settings I should adjust to make it work more smoothly? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia
Re: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11
Tim, That's a good suggestion. In my case, I was applying a specific type of compression that I already had defined in Sound Forge. I should take a look, though, thanks. Best regards, Steve Jacobson compression On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:30:28 -0500, Tim Aune wrote: I might suggest using MP3 direct cut for editing MP3 files. It's very fast, and you don't have to convert the files. It doesn't have a lot of the features that a program like sound forge has but it is very reliable. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 9:32 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11 Bob, These are all very good points. I'd like to explain a bit more about my earlier response in case it helps Kelly. I was editing a four hour MP3 file over the weekend, and I was finding everything to be very sluggish including moving through the file with PGUP and PGDN. Since I had worked with some other large files in SF 11 I wondered what had changed. It turned out that I had generally worked with WAV files before. I saved my MP3 file as a WAV file and worked on it in that format and much of the sluggishness I was experiencing was gone. Of course, converting an MP3 file to WAV doesn't make it sound any better, but it did make a large difference in my ability to move around in the file. It may be my imagination as it is not that easy to verify this, but I believe that saving a file takes longer in SF 11 than it did in SF 10 or before, but I could be experiencing something else, or it could be the added overhead that you mention. It has been my experience that heavy file activity can lock out screen readers or make them not responsive, so saving a file might be causing the appearance of loosing speech. Sometimes starting NVDA or Narrator can help one figure out what is happening. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:13:34 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote: SF 11 is a far more complex program than SF 6. The way that SF handles the file being edited has changed because it is now a multi-channel editor and every time you do something that causes SF to write out the edited files to protect you from yourself, it takes time to complete the process. How quick the process will be is dependent on the read/write speed of your hard disk. If you are working on a large file, that is to say, 4 or 5 hour mp3, then it will appear to be slow. The only setting that you might change is the location of temporary files. If you use a separate drive for the temporary files, there may be some gain but that will depend on the read/write sppeed. And, no, using a solid state drive will not really improve things that much because the Windows way of reading and writing to disk pretty well negates any gain there may be in using a SSD. The mp3 codec does appear to be slower than in SF 6 but you must remember that the program is doing a lot more processing than SF 6 did. Opening, editing and saving in wav format may be slightly quicker but you will eventually have to convert it to mp3. However, I find that for files of an hour or less the performance is on a par with SF 8D. The moral of the story may well be that the Sony people did not anticipate that SF would be used to edit 7 or 8 hour long files. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 1:38 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11 Hi, After recently getting a new 64-bit PC with Windows 7 Professional, I decided to upgrade Sound Forge from 6.0D (which I've used for a number of years) to the latest version, Pro 11. However, I've noticed that this new version seems to be rather sluggish when compared to 6.0D. For instance, if I have two files loaded, and I switch to the other file by either using the Window menu or pressing Control+Tab, it seems to take awhile before I can do anything again. With 6.0D, going to a new window was instantaneous. There have also been times where I'll be doing some editing, and the program will seem to freeze for a couple minutes. When this happens, I lose speech, but can Alt+Tab to another program, such as WinAmp. Eventually, everything works fine again, but I find this very frustrating. If anyone else is using this version, have you experienced these issues? Are there any settings I should adjust to make it work more smoothly? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia
Re: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11
Kelly, I have not experienced all that you have, but I have found that if you are editing MP3 files, for example, that saving them to WAV files and working on those helps a lot with sluggishness. I know that Sound Forge up-converts other formats to a higher sampling rate, etc., but it seems that it tries to maintain some relationship with the original file unless you save the file in a more lossless format. Performing some operations, including saving at times, can take a couple of minutes. However, at least with Window-Eyes, I can find the line with the mouse pointer that provides the percentage that has been processed. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:38:28 -0600, Kelly Sapergia wrote: Hi, After recently getting a new 64-bit PC with Windows 7 Professional, I decided to upgrade Sound Forge from 6.0D (which I've used for a number of years) to the latest version, Pro 11. However, I've noticed that this new version seems to be rather sluggish when compared to 6.0D. For instance, if I have two files loaded, and I switch to the other file by either using the Window menu or pressing Control+Tab, it seems to take awhile before I can do anything again. With 6.0D, going to a new window was instantaneous. There have also been times where I'll be doing some editing, and the program will seem to freeze for a couple minutes. When this happens, I lose speech, but can Alt+Tab to another program, such as WinAmp. Eventually, everything works fine again, but I find this very frustrating. If anyone else is using this version, have you experienced these issues? Are there any settings I should adjust to make it work more smoothly? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio http://www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com Follow me on Twitter at: KJSapergia
Re: Cool Edit
Peter, CoolEdit was purchased by Adobe and became Adobe Audition. Adobe Audition through version 1.5 was pretty much unchanged from the original CoolEdit. Audition 2.0 changed how data was displayed on the screen and became much less accessible. Adobe did build in some other means of getting the information but it requires more scripting to get at it, and in my observation doesn't seem quite as complete but I have not looked at all of this in a while. I had some difficulty installing Audition 1.0 on a Windows 7 64-bit computer, and have not devoted the time to determining how accessible the most recent version of Audition is with the propper scripts or app under Window-eyes. It would be very helpful if someone has really exercised the latest version of Audition to know where the gaps might be as I did like CoolEdit and Audition. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:01:52 +1000, Peter Scanlon wrote: Are folks using cool Edit for editing these days? Is it called something else now? Are there Jaws scripts? Is there a tutorial around in audio or other? P.
Re: re soundforge
You can have multiple effects processing sound at one time so you can hear the end effect. Of course, this could result in a log of processing and a computer may have trouble with processing it all in real time. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:52:24 +0100, brian parker wrote: Hi, what is the purpose of the chainer in soundforge. brian.
Re: a files property question
I'm not certain of the answer, but I believe there is a button to refresh the information in the library. Maybe that has to be done. Also, there are a lot of fields in the properties dialog, so maybe there is another that needs to be changed. I must tell you that some of how this all works is still a mystery to me. I know that when I changed the file name and the title in one case here that Windows Media started displaying it correctly. Sorry I can't be of more help. Best regards, Steve On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:05:18 -0400, John Heath wrote: Hi! I found the details tab in the properties menu which shows the file titled the way I want; however when playing the song with media player when I check the properties it still lists the track as audio track... - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: a files property question With Audio files, you can edit many of the properties using Windows Explorer. Select the file and press ALT-Enter. There is a TAB, the Details tab, that will let you look at and edit many properties such as title, artist, supporting artist, etc. You will see the values in a list, but if you pick one and start typing, you can then TAB between them. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 15:27:40 -0400, John Heath wrote: A variant on the thread about cdex. I had the same problem with ripping with Cdex with an album. I manually wrote in the proper information on the tracks themselves but while playing the track with windows media player the information is still the same audio track one etc.. How do I manually replace the information so it shows in the property menu while playing the track? the tracks
Re: Adobe Audition centre channel extract
Laurence, I used Audition 1.5 for a long time, and liked it. There are two things I can suggest. First,make sure that the sound you are hearing is really part of the file and not a problem with Audition's playback. Create the file using the center channel extractor and then play it with another program such as Windows Media Player. Second, I was thinking that the center channel extractor did more than just combine channels, and it is possible that combining channels will do most of what you want to do. Try just combining channels and see whether it avoids the problem and gets you most of the way there or not. I think there is an item to do that but don't remember where it is any more, or you can probably do it by creating a monaural file. I had to let Audition go because I couldn't get it to install on a 64-bit system. It was more complicated than that as I had upgraded from previous versions and couldn't install one of the previous versions that was required. I wonder, though, if there could be some incompatibility with Windows 7. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 13:45:51 +0100, Laurence Taylor wrote: This is what used to be called Cool Edit. I am using Audition 1.5 to clean up recording of old 78rpm records. The main process involves the Centre Channel Extract function (since most surface noise is out of phase), and it works very well, often needing nothing else to be done. However, the resulting file has a low-level repeated burst of phase distortion, a sort of meep ... meep ... meep, which can be very distracting. I've tried playing with the settings but nothing seems to help much, likewise filtering doesn't assist as the meeps are too wideband. Any ideas as to what it cold be and whay I could do about it, or is it just something I'll have to put up with? (Up with which I will have to put). It's certainly much better than the frying bacon that was there before! -- rgds LAurence ...Jesus saves - but Joseph scores on the rebound ---Taglines by Tagzilla (tagzilla.mozdev.org)
Re: a files property question
With Audio files, you can edit many of the properties using Windows Explorer. Select the file and press ALT-Enter. There is a TAB, the Details tab, that will let you look at and edit many properties such as title, artist, supporting artist, etc. You will see the values in a list, but if you pick one and start typing, you can then TAB between them. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 15:27:40 -0400, John Heath wrote: A variant on the thread about cdex. I had the same problem with ripping with Cdex with an album. I manually wrote in the proper information on the tracks themselves but while playing the track with windows media player the information is still the same audio track one etc.. How do I manually replace the information so it shows in the property menu while playing the track? the tracks
RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?
Tom, I've written a couple of times but had to reconfirm my membership so don't know if they got through. Therefore, I'm sorry if I am repeating myself. If you still want to figure this out, it is necessary to try to narrow down the problem. Either the CD information isn't available on CDEX's databases, something has gone wrong with your CDEX install, or something is interfering with connections. Since you have stated that you have seen a rip button in Windows Media Player, I'll assume that my concern that you might be using Window-Eyes and the button may not be detected was incorrect. Have you attempted to see if another CD you feel confident has worked can be ripped by CDEX with track information? If you can get CD information through CDEX for another CD, it would establish that CDEX is able to get information. This would point a finger at your particular set not being entered in the databases that CDEX is using. As others have said, this kind of thing can happen and doesn't always seem logical. If you can't get track information for any CD using CDEX, then clearly there is a problem with your configuration and it will be worth your time to try to track down the problem and resolve it. Second, I have seen the rip button not appear in Windows Media Player when Windows Media Player determines it can't rip a CD. This can happen if it thinks it already ripped the CD, or possibly if there is data rights management involved. I once had this happen when I did not realize that Windows Media Player had already successfully ripped a CD for me during a period whan I had the rip automatically box checked. I assume that you have probably double-checked to be sure the set hasn't already been ripped. Finally, I had read that you do not have a router, so that couldn't be an issue. Most cable and DSL modems have a router built in even if they only have one network connector. If there is wireless capability, there is almost certainly a router involved even if it is not a separate piece of hardware. These devices also usually have some sort of firewall as well, but this isn't something that should have just magically changed and therefore started causing you trouble. However, it might not hurt to try unplugging your cable or DSL modem if you have it and then plugging it back in to get everything to reboot, but only if there seems to be no other explanation. If, for example, you can get CDEX to rip even one other CD with track information, then you know there is no connectivity problem. If you have some other kind of connection that truly has no router or firewall, then obviously this paragraph is just wasting your time, although your computer probably has at least a Windows firewall. I hope something here is helpful. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:18:16 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote: Sounds to me like this Express Rip is something like CDEX in that it gives you a couple of choices! As much as it troubles me, I fear that maybe this Hank Williams Complete collection is one of those that CDEX just can't get the information from! I had ripped it a long time ago (this was back before I knew that CDEX could be told to title the tracks) so I decided I wanted to have the track titles in, but hate to go through the trouble of typing them in manually! This actually is why I left CDEX for a little while as I found out that Windows Media would do this for you right out of the box! Aw but this was Windows Media 11; it was much simpler to do back then! But then WMP 12 comes along...and it's just not so cut-and-dry! I did rip a CD with Windows Media the other day; it actually showed me the rip button...but it won't show me that button with this particular CD grhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrowl! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:49 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? Hi. Not all data base will contain the information you might need. I've just purchased the Porter Wagoner Dolly Parton 6 disc box set. This was released on the 26th of May this year, I got it 2 weeks after the release. However when ripping the discs with CDEX or Express Rip I could get no track info and this was a Bear Family box set. I had to go on the web and find a track list and enter the info manually. It is rather strange because I have some very obscure CDs and the Data Base found that info without trouble. You might find it of interest that Express Rip gives you the option of two Data Bases and if one doesn't get the info, you can then try the other. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 26 June 2014 02:24 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex
RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?
Tom, Maybe I missed this, but do you get any track information when using Windows Media Player? If you do, this would at least validate that the CD was providing the correct data for lookup. Also, if you bought this set used for from Ebay, it is always possible you got a set that was copied incorrectly, but again, getting information about the CD from Windows Media Player would show this was not the case. This would at least narrow the problem down to CDEX or the database being accessed. Best regards, Steve Jacobson Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:17:55 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote: Okay...so CDEX _doesn't_ used Gracenote; that's what I was wondering! So I fail to understand why (aafter not having trouble with CDEX giving me the track titles before) why it's doing so now! It well me be that this CD Bboxed set hasn't been referenced, but it seems strange, for it's a Hank Williams collection that was put out probably ten years ago (iI don't remember the exact year it came out) but I thought surely it could be ripped with the track information...but maybe not! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Grünauer Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:25 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? CDEx never used GraceNote. You have to install Player.exe to get information from GraceNote that you can also export to CDEx. It is all described here: The url for information and download is: http://www.vuplayer.com/player.php Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Scanlon Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? So if Winamp and CDex don't use Gracenote any more, which ripper/player does? -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:34 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? It could be your firewall is blocking the connection or it's a cd that's not been referenced. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? Okay...here;'s the latest: I uninstalled CDEX; then installed a later versionsame results! I DON'T UNDERSTAND! To the best of my knowledge, I am doing everything correctly (I have written my email where it's supposed to go) still..it says audio track 1; track 1...I must be stupid or something, for it seems to work for everybody else! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:14 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? I'm either down to that...or just trying to see what I can do with Windows Media; so far, no luck there as I cannot find something that says srip CD (I have a set of instructions that tell me that control-3 will put me where I need to be for ripping CDs with Windows Media. However I have been through all the tabs and there's absolutely nothing indicating to me that I can rip a CD with this program either! Totally frustrated! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:11 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? Maybe delete and reinstall? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:47 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? Well I'm either not understanding something, or it's just plain not working; it _still_ gives me audio track 1...and on and on and on; not what I want! I don't understand why it used to work just fine, but now it's not! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:03 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? If it doesn't grab them automaticly, go to your cddb sub menu and arrow down to freedb batch query and press enter. I bet you that'll do the trick. On 6/24/2014 11:54 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Yup; that's what my CDEX used to do too! But that isn't what I found yesterday afternoon
RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?
Tom, I asked earlier if you were using Window-Eyes. I was thinking you did, and if so, there has been a problem with identifying some of the buttons on the Now Playing window which is where the rip button is. If this is the case, you could either check the RIP Automatically box or you could try NVDA which does detect this button. This is a known issue for Window-Eyes and it will be corrected. I was thinking, though, that when you put the CD in that there are options to display information about the CD even if you don't rip. I thought if you were seeing CD information that it would mean that at least in some cases CD information is being retrieved. This would insure that the problem of not getting information was associated with CDEX and not with a problem with the CD itself. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:43:06 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote: Steve and list: I've not been able to get Windows Media to rip it at all! It won't even show me the rip button! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? Tom, Maybe I missed this, but do you get any track information when using Windows Media Player? If you do, this would at least validate that the CD was providing the correct data for lookup. Also, if you bought this set used for from Ebay, it is always possible you got a set that was copied incorrectly, but again, getting information about the CD from Windows Media Player would show this was not the case. This would at least narrow the problem down to CDEX or the database being accessed. Best regards, Steve Jacobson Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:17:55 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote: Okay...so CDEX _doesn't_ used Gracenote; that's what I was wondering! So I fail to understand why (aafter not having trouble with CDEX giving me the track titles before) why it's doing so now! It well me be that this CD Bboxed set hasn't been referenced, but it seems strange, for it's a Hank Williams collection that was put out probably ten years ago (iI don't remember the exact year it came out) but I thought surely it could be ripped with the track information...but maybe not! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Grünauer Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:25 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? CDEx never used GraceNote. You have to install Player.exe to get information from GraceNote that you can also export to CDEx. It is all described here: The url for information and download is: http://www.vuplayer.com/player.php Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Scanlon Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? So if Winamp and CDex don't use Gracenote any more, which ripper/player does? -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:34 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX:IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? It could be your firewall is blocking the connection or it's a cd that's not been referenced. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: IsIt No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? Okay...here;'s the latest: I uninstalled CDEX; then installed a later versionsame results! I DON'T UNDERSTAND! To the best of my knowledge, I am doing everything correctly (I have written my email where it's supposed to go) still..it says audio track 1; track 1...I must be stupid or something, for it seems to work for everybody else! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:14 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? I'm either down to that...or just trying to see what I can do with Windows Media; so far, no luck there as I cannot find something that says srip CD (I have a set of instructions that tell me that control-3 will put me where I need to be for ripping CDs with Windows Media. However I have been through all the tabs and there's absolutely nothing indicating to me that I can rip a CD with this program either! Totally frustrated! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf
RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It NoLonger Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks?
Tom, Am I remembering correctly that you are using Window-Eyes? Window-Eyes has some trouble with the rip button in Windows Media Player, but there are some ways around the problem. The rip button shows up on the Now Playing screen which you can bring up by pressing CONTROL-3. However, if you have a few to rip, there is a Windows Media Player option to automatically rip a CD when you put one in and this let's you avoid the button. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:59:36 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote: I do; it still isn't doing what I need it to do...which is to put in the titles and so forth! I'd go back to Windows Media, but I'm not even seeing a rip button in there! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It NoLonger Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? Hi, In preferences in the remote CD tab do you have the checkbox for auto connect to remote cddb checked? Robin -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:22 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It NoLonger Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? Thanks, Chris; will give it a try! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:03 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? If it doesn't grab them automaticly, go to your cddb sub menu and arrow down to freedb batch query and press enter. I bet you that'll do the trick. On 6/24/2014 11:54 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Yup; that's what my CDEX used to do too! But that isn't what I found yesterday afternoon (it said audio track 1 01 (and so it went like that) I wouldn't think that the information on this particular CD boxed set would be hard to get info for! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? When i ripped my last couple of cds about a month ago I didn't even require the player program you guys are talking about. i just put the cd in the drive, launched CDEX and just like magic, there they were, the song titles properly in the right places. Then I just hit f9 and off it went, ripping to 320 k mp3. Nice and fast. On 6/24/2014 2:29 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: So where do you get this player program from? I know it _did_ work not too terribly long ago, so I don't know what could be different! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Grünauer Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:47 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? ...get a programme there that's called Player, download it, install it. This very blindfriendly program will let you grab the information from Gracenote, then you could either rip to wav or ogg or export the information in the player.ini from which cdex is able to read it so you can also rip into whatever formats cdex supports, i.e. mp3. Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:19 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? So what you're saying is, go to the Gracenote site and...and then what? Afraid it's just not sinking in! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Grünauer Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 6:07 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? CDEx doesn't use Gracenote by default, you have to install a different program called player which you can find on the gracenote site and this will allow you to export information from Gracenote to CDEx and, yes, this still works fine. GraceNote is far better than FreeCDDB, but both still exist and Gracenote complements the former. Take care Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:42 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping With CDEX: Is It No Longer Possible To Have Cdex Title Tracks? I ripped a cd just a few weeks ago using CDEX so yes, it is quite definitely possible to have it grab the track titles from gracenote. speaking of which the proper spelling of that for future reference is g r
Re: further help with audacity, please?
Deb, I don't have much experience with Audacity but I do have some experience with noise reduction. What it sounds as though is happening is that you may have included too much in the sample of noise that you extracted when you started with the noise reduction process. I think that was covered in a previous note, but the first thing you have to do is to isolate a sample of the noise you want to remove that does not include anything you want to keep. If, for example, you got some of the voices in the noise sample that you want to keep, Audacity or any other noise reduction software would include those voices as part of the noise you wanted to remove. However, noise reduction works best on constant noise. Therefore, it is also possible that noise reduction techniques may not do a good job of getting rid of background voices since they are not steady. It is still worth a try, though, as noise reduction may help some. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:03:29 -0400, Deb Trevino wrote: Hi friends, I am Dave Trevino's wife and have more Audacity questions: 1. Are there any tutorials that can take me from the very beginning? I have used Studeo Recorder for editing but that's my only experience. 2. The file I want to work with is a conference call with superimposed (or background) voices. I want to remove the background voices from the file. 3. I don't understand the parameters in the noise reduction feature as to DB settings, etc. My attempt to use the NR resulted in lower volume of my total file and limited success with removing the offending background speech. Suggestions appreciated. 4. I'm trying to do all this without laying out any cash! Thanks for help. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever
I'm a little confused here. Are you saying there are full-range speakers of the same size and price? How does one define full-range? In my experience, it is very rare that one can simply choose between full-range and boombox sound with size and price remaining constant. I have not heard the Bose Companion series so I don't know if I would like them or not, but there are times when I have found a good boombox sound to be acceptable when the speakers fit into a tight space or when they were being used by people who might not be careful with them. I also still use a set of thirty-year-old Freid floor standing speakers which were considered full range and enjoy them as well. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 03:38:38 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote: I'm not at all surprised if what you said also applied to these speakers to be honest, let's put it this way, there are some people who have gorwn up with a Boombox sound, and they know nothing better, that's their thing of course, so long as they're happy then that's what matters but there's far better audio quality out there than Boombox audio. Dane Trethowan's iPhone at +61400494862 has had the privlidge of delivering the above eMail to you. On 10 Jun 2014, at 3:22 am, Dan Kerstetter dh...@comcast.net wrote: I have to say I hope they're better than the companion 2. I had a pair of those and got rid of them asap. It was like listening to a boom box instead of something with full range. Dan -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:36 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever That sounds just about right. I don't know if that price was exact It's not too far from what I recall US ppricing to be. I've heard them and they are good. I just preferred the Companion 5 multimedia speakers. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Fwd: Bose Companion 2 series iii speakers best ever Hi! This eMail is forwarded from another list I'm on, this list is an Australian eMail list so I don't know about pricing for these Bose speakers in the U.S. so people may wish to check. If you're looking for a set of computer speakers at a good value for money price then the set described here may be well worth the look given the price they're being sold for right now. snip Hi all. Just wanted to let folks know about these awesome bose companion 2 series iii speakers i've just bought. There 149 dollars at the bose store or the apple store or any other good re-tailer. Basically these are computer desktop speakers consisting of 2 small desktop speakers no sub and very easy to connect up. There are only 4 cables and a single dial on the front for turning the speakers on and for volume. There is also a 3.5 mm headphone jack just below the on off volume control and on the back you have inputs for the left speaker, a c power, the input for connecting a 3.5 mm cable then the other end of that cable connects to a pc mac iphone whatever you wish to power. The final input is an aux input for connecting to another device. Keep in mind these are not hi-fi speakers but if your looking for something just for a pc or mac or a laptop, you can't go past the bose companion 2 series 3 speakres. These are the newest desktop speakers in the Bose lineup. Grab a pair today and enjoy crisp clear sound never heard from a pair of speakers this small. snip ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Connecting Apple Tv to an older receiver with RCA aux/ins
Brad, There are two ways I know of to get analog outputs from an Apple TV. First, I needed to use an older TV with our Apple TV and I bought a small converter for around $35 through Amazon that has an HDMI input and two Analog Out and a video out. I ended up running the analog out to a stereo instead and it sounded good. an HDMI cable was not included nor is a power supply, but I had to run mine from a USB power source for it to run reliably. There is also a switch that allows one to choose between two color display systems. Second, there is an audio optical output on the Apple TV and there are converters that will convert from Optical output to Analog output. I believe I saw those on Amazon as well. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 2 May 2014 11:37:38 -0500, Bradford Trainham wrote: The subject line says it all. I want to stream audio via my Mac through an Apple Tv and from thence into a receiver with RCA/aux inputs. Does a cable exist or does one need a converter box? Thanks, Brad Trainham
Re: Stereo AM Confirmation
Dane, I am fairly certain that we used both in the US and that the Motorola system was slightly more common in the end, but it was never controlled as you said and that likely hurt its chances to succeed. However, FM really took off here in the 80's and 90's and that also probably hurt and may have been the biggest reason that AM Stereo didn't make it. Who knows. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:10:19 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi! Okay, it seems that Australia used the Motoroller method for transmitting Stereo AM in the end after a battle in court over here, the U.S. apparently used the Magnavox method or the Haris method, nothing was tightly controlled by the FCC until it was far too late smile. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Stereo AM
The recording is interesting. This recording does show AM stereo's capabilities, but I have heard better audio from receivers using a wider bandwidth, and of course this recording is getting some adjacent channel interference as well which would make a wider bandwidth less effective. While long distance stereo here in the United States was fun, its most useful application in my opinion was on strong and medium strength AM signals during the day where a wider bandwith is practical. That could really sound pretty good. How AM stereo is handled when a signal is weaker is really a function of the receiver being used. I found that less noise was added when a weak AM signal was in stereo than was the case with a weaker FM signal. Fading also affected the stereo image as was shown in this recording. Both the Sony Walkman style radio and my Carver tuner went into stereo at very low signal levels. In my experience here in the US, I cannot say that AM stereo caused additional interference. Stations that used a wider bandwidth for greater fidelity would, of course, cause more interference, and there was a tendency for AM stereo stations to want increased fidelity as well, but I didn't notice more interference from the stereo process itself, nothing like HD radio now. It is interesting that AM stereo is still being used in some areas. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 10:49:05 +0100, Colin Howard wrote: Dane, I note nobody has come back on the DropBox link I posted, details below: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7644179/A.%20M.%20stereo.zip file name: A. M. stereo.zip I would have thought somebody must have heard this, so why no comments? I am interested to know what happens when a little out of the strongest signal area? Does the stereo switch on and off with different signal strengths mostly due to fading? What is the lowest useable frequency? Did anybody try stereo a.m on long wave? Just a few thoughts.
Re: RF headset
Dane, Are these actual RF or Bluetooth? I know that technically Bluetooth is RF, but I looked for some of the older type of RF headphones a year or so ago that have greater range than Bluetooth or similar types and found it is getting harder to tell what one is getting when one reads the package. I bought some from Radio Shack, for example, that did not mention Bluetooth at all, and perhaps they didn't actually use that protocol, but the range was only the range of Bluetooth. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:40:51 +1100, Dane Trethowan wrote: Okay so what's the headset going to be used for, are you using it with a computer and something like Skype or will you be using it with a radio or something else. If looking for a Wireless Headset for your computer then the Logitech H600 is worth a look, their's a nice Plantronics model which I have but can't remember the name of it. both headsets are different, the Plantronics is a closed back type whilst the Logitech is an open backed type, both go over the head and ears. On 5 Apr 2014, at 1:59 pm, John Chilelli j...@neo.rr.com wrote: Hi all, I need a decent but smallish, lightweight, over the ear RF headset for my reading. Has anyone had any experience with this headset? Anyone have any good recommendations under $100.00? http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS120-Wireless-Headphones-Charging/dp/B0001FTVEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1396665015sr=8-1keywords=sennheiser+head+phones Sorry, for some reason the link got broken. It's on Amazon for like $87.00 Thanks, John Chilelli ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: Stereo AM
I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket portable that did. There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying. In addition, stations that use HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth. I actually prefer a noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here in the US in the 1980's. Even more, that system did not interfere with adjacent stations as does the HD system does now. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote: In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM stereo system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig and would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in just right, the stereo would kick in; it sounded great! But my first experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled to Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was equipped with AM stereo! We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I noticed it was in stereo, so I figured no; that couldn't be WSM! So just to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to tell me what station the radio was on! When he said 6500, then I knew and was totally amazed at how good it sounded! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Stereo AM Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did have two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you could get the stereo sound. Evan - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Stereo AM Back to the glory days of radio smile. Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy. WCTC in AM Stereo on Denon TU-680NAB ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: re soundforge
Steve, I am using Sound Forge 11 and since we are both on the Window-Eyes list, I am assuming you also use Window-Eyes. I had thought I ran in to some accessibility issues with some of the Izotope stuff, but perhaps I gave up too soon. Are there any tricks in using the Repair kit? I also have not really found anything in Sound Forge 11 that makes it less usable than Sound Forge 8, although some things I hoped would have been improved were not. I also was thinking that Sound Forge 8 might not work on 64-bit systems, but I am not sure of that. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:19:43 +0100, Steve Nutt wrote: Hi, For me the Izotope repair kit you get for free with 11 is advantage enough. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of brian parker Sent: 02 April 2014 08:10 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: re soundforge Hi, i am back again. apart from the append function i mentioned in my message to curtis, what other obvious advantages are there in the versions after seven. brian.
Re: re soundforge
Curtis, Thanks for setting the record straight. I had an old version of Sound Forge and had to upgrade because it would not install on my 64-bit system which is why I finally had to upgrade. I was thinking it was Sound Forge 8, but clearly it was somewhere before that. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:54:19 -0700, Curtis Delzer wrote: sf8 works fine on base 64 systems, I am using it. -- Curtis Delzer. HS. K 6 V F O San Bernardino, CA. curtis1...@verizon.net skype: curtis1014 On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:20:28 -0500 Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com wrote: Steve, I am using Sound Forge 11 and since we are both on the Window-Eyes list, I am assuming you also use Window- Eyes. I had thought I ran in to some accessibility issues with some of the Izotope stuff, but perhaps I gave up too soon. Are there any tricks in using the Repair kit? I also have not really found anything in Sound Forge 11 that makes it less usable than Sound Forge 8, although some things I hoped would have been improved were not. I also was thinking that Sound Forge 8 might not work on 64-bit systems, but I am not sure of that. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:19:43 +0100, Steve Nutt wrote: Hi, For me the Izotope repair kit you get for free with 11 is advantage enough. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of brian parker Sent: 02 April 2014 08:10 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: re soundforge Hi, i am back again. apart from the append function i mentioned in my message to curtis, what other obvious advantages are there in the versions after seven. brian.
RE: re soundforge
Steve, I might have to check Groove Mechanic out. Mostly, I've been happy with Sound Forge's Noise Reduction, but I find I have to spend a lot of time playing with parameters to get it the way I want it. It would be interesting to see what Groove Mechanic would do on a troublesom short clip of something. Thanks for the info. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 17:25:24 +0100, Steve Nutt wrote: Hi Steve, I am using SF 11 Pro on a 64-bit system without issue. As for Izotope, some of the repair stuff works and some doesn't. I use EQ and Exciter mostly, so I can get vocal detail out of bad recordings. I also use a stand alone program called Groove Mechanic, which is primarily designed for cleaning up vinyl and tape, but the noise reduction and gating is fantastic. If you have a file with noise on it, then do send it to me, and I will process it with GM just to show you how good it is. GM is about 30 bucks if I remember right but is completely accessible. GM is designed to get rid of all kinds of hiss and it does it without question. Crackles too. Anything like that is fair game, even 60hz hum. Hope this helps. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: 02 April 2014 17:20 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: re soundforge Steve, I am using Sound Forge 11 and since we are both on the Window-Eyes list, I am assuming you also use Window-Eyes. I had thought I ran in to some accessibility issues with some of the Izotope stuff, but perhaps I gave up too soon. Are there any tricks in using the Repair kit? I also have not really found anything in Sound Forge 11 that makes it less usable than Sound Forge 8, although some things I hoped would have been improved were not. I also was thinking that Sound Forge 8 might not work on 64-bit systems, but I am not sure of that. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:19:43 +0100, Steve Nutt wrote: Hi, For me the Izotope repair kit you get for free with 11 is advantage enough. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of brian parker Sent: 02 April 2014 08:10 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: re soundforge Hi, i am back again. apart from the append function i mentioned in my message to curtis, what other obvious advantages are there in the versions after seven. brian.
Re: Audio Sample Of Pl880 Radio
Does anyone know if KNX is HD? If he went 10 KHZ below or above KNX, which was the audio we originally heard, the noise could have been the HD noise. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:14:33 +1100, Dane Trethowan wrote: I think it more than white noise, interference from somewhere and I'm not at all surprised given that the recording was made near a computer but still remarkable audio quality from a very small portable. On 24 Mar 2014, at 11:06 pm, Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds pretty good. Sounds like you get a lot of white noise on the AM band though in the spaces between stations. Damb that was a lot of wind like noise. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Audio Sample Of Pl880 Radio Hi! I sent a review of this radio to the list earlier on today. Here's a link to some audio samples from the radio recorded by a friend of mine living in Orange County, Tom scrolls up and down the FM band first before turning his attention to the AM band and playing about with the various band with filters. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10565527/PL880.MP3 If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few minutes, file may still be uploading to Dropbox. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Hum from Cable
Dean, There have been several suggestions that you might want to check out, a ground isolator that could be put between your cable and your TV, or someone suggested such a device on your patch cord. I have not seen one for patch cords so don't know about those. I bought such a device for a cable many years ago, but a search on Amazon might turn something up or perhaps others with more recent experience could suggest something specific. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:15:25 -0400, Dean Masters wrote: In the past I would record the programs on VHS then disconnect the cable and play the VHS so I could record on my PC without the hum. so it seems like the only way to record without the hum is to disconnect the cable. But I was hoping not to have to record on one thing then play to record to my PC. I was hoping to cut out the middle man and twice the time to record. Plus I am having trouble with the VHS. The machine also has a DVD recorder if I can figure out how to run that thing. I guess I need to do that then play the DVD after disconnecting the cable. Dean -Original Message- From: Laurence Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:44 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Hum from Cable On 19/03/2014 01:52, Dean Masters wrote: I am wanting to run a patch cord from the headphone jack on my TV to my PC to record some shows but there is a hum. I have Comcast cable. This sounds like an earth loop of some kind. The first thing to check is whether the cable outlet is isolated - it should be. Do you use a cable box or does the cable go straight into the TV? If you have a box, check if you still get the hum with it disconnected. If not, that's the cause of the problem and the isolated outlet will cure it. If you still get hum without the TV cable connected there are other things to check; is the TV connected to anything else? Do you have an outside aerial as well, or a satellite receiver? If the TV is fitted with a two-pin mains plug, is it the right way round? Try reversing it in the socket. I'd plump for the cable outlet first, though, it's a very common problem. -- rgds LAurence ...Life is what happens to you while you are making other plans. ---Taglines by Tagzilla (tagzilla.mozdev.org)
Re: Hum from Cable
This is probably stating the obvious, but be sure to turn up the volume some on your TV to overcome any residual hum that is a part of the TV's circuitry. If you run your headphones at relatively low volume, you may not hear the hum, but when that same signal is fed through another amplifier and played back at a higher volume, hum can become evident. However, that would be too easy a fix. Also check where your cable is routed. Sometimes if a cable is too close to another power supply, even an AC adapter, hum can be introduced. Finally, the cause is most likely the hardest to fix, that being a ground loop. This is especially likely if your TV is connected to cable TV. It can be further complicated if your computer is connected to a network through an ethernet connection as well. Try disconnecting the cable from your TV while it is on to see if the hum goes away, realizing, of course, this isn't a viable solution. If the hum does go away, you probably have a groundloop. We tend to think that ground is ground and this just isn't the case. When devices are connected to ground through multiple paths that take different routes, those paths can themselves create what amounts to one turn on a large coil that can pick up hum. Sometimes to correct such a problem you have to actually disconnect a device from ground or isolate devices. Let's take a quick possible example. Let's say that your computer is connected to internet by being plugged into a router that is connected to a cable modem. In addition to normal grounds, there is a ground on the ethernet cable that connects back to the ground of your router, that connects to the ground on your cable modem that connects to the ground or outer shield of the coaxial cable that goes to a splitter where the cable splits and goes to your tv. Now, the ground on your tv is connected to the audio ground on your patch cord which connects to the audio ground on your desktop which is connected to your desktops ground. We have just described a path that makes a long trip that can be described as a loop. If disconnecting the cable from your TV gets rid of the hum, there are filters that can be placed between a TV and a cable that allows the cable's shield to act as a ground for radio and TV signals but not for AC. This would then break this particular loop. Unfortunately, there are other interactions that can cause ground loops so figuring out how to avoid them is a pain. Of course, if you were able to connect your TV to your desktop using bluetooth, there would be no physical connection. This can be done in a number of ways, but the bluetooth sound might be lower quality. You also might consider recording on aa portable audio recorder and then transferring the results to your computer. In the end, you should be able to record directly on your desktop, but depending upon other factors, the hum may not be so easy to eliminate. Maybe, though, you'll be lucky, and turning up the TV's volume a little will clear up everything! Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:17:09 -0400, Dean Masters wrote: Yes it is to a desktop. All outlets are the three prong type which means they should be grounded. Dean -Original Message- From: Joe Paton Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Hum from Cable Hi, are you connecting to a desktop computer? You might try grounding your machine if this is the case. Joe On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 21:52:03 -0400 Dean Masters dwmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I am wanting to run a patch cord from the headphone jack on my TV to my PC to record some shows but there is a hum. I have Comcast cable. The patch cord is actuallly two cords with male plugs on both ends and a connector with two female plugs. When I put headpohones in the jack there is no hum. Is there something I can do to get rid of the hum? Thanks, Dean -- Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
Re: Hum from Cable
Dean, I'm not sure what you mean about not wishing to raise the volume unless the movie has explosions and loud parts. I was referring to when you had the patch cord plugged into the headphone plug and you were recording. I am assuming that you are not listening to the movie when you do that. If you raise the volume on the TV, you might have to lower the record level on the PC. The advice to get one long good quality cable rather than using two with the RCA connector might be worth a try, too. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:54:34 -0400, Dean Masters wrote: Thanks for all you wrote. Someone said the problem is that Comcast doesn't ground their cables correctly. i did raise the volume and that would be fine if I was recording a movie with all kinds of explosions. but htat is not what I want to record. And I don't have a portable recorder. I do have a VDR/DVD recorder hooked in to that TV so I guess I am goingn to have to figure out how to record with DVD. So far I have taped with tapes but either the tapes are wearing outor the recorder is. I would then disconnect the cable and hook cables to the RCA jacks and run from the recorder to my PC. so it took twice as long to record something on my PC. I was hoping to delete the middle man and save half the time. I think to finish the DVD recording I would have to have sighted help to go through the menus or I could rip them onto my PC. Dean -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Hum from Cable This is probably stating the obvious, but be sure to turn up the volume some on your TV to overcome any residual hum that is a part of the TV's circuitry. If you run your headphones at relatively low volume, you may not hear the hum, but when that same signal is fed through another amplifier and played back at a higher volume, hum can become evident. However, that would be too easy a fix. Also check where your cable is routed. Sometimes if a cable is too close to another power supply, even an AC adapter, hum can be introduced. Finally, the cause is most likely the hardest to fix, that being a ground loop. This is especially likely if your TV is connected to cable TV. It can be further complicated if your computer is connected to a network through an ethernet connection as well. Try disconnecting the cable from your TV while it is on to see if the hum goes away, realizing, of course, this isn't a viable solution. If the hum does go away, you probably have a groundloop. We tend to think that ground is ground and this just isn't the case. When devices are connected to ground through multiple paths that take different routes, those paths can themselves create what amounts to one turn on a large coil that can pick up hum. Sometimes to correct such a problem you have to actually disconnect a device from ground or isolate devices. Let's take a quick possible example. Let's say that your computer is connected to internet by being plugged into a router that is connected to a cable modem. In addition to normal grounds, there is a ground on the ethernet cable that connects back to the ground of your router, that connects to the ground on your cable modem that connects to the ground or outer shield of the coaxial cable that goes to a splitter where the cable splits and goes to your tv. Now, the ground on your tv is connected to the audio ground on your patch cord which connects to the audio ground on your desktop which is connected to your desktops ground. We have just described a path that makes a long trip that can be described as a loop. If disconnecting the cable from your TV gets rid of the hum, there are filters that can be placed between a TV and a cable that allows the cable's shield to act as a ground for radio and TV signals but not for AC. This would then break this particular loop. Unfortunately, there are other interactions that can cause ground loops so figuring out how to avoid them is a pain. Of course, if you were able to connect your TV to your desktop using bluetooth, there would be no physical connection. This can be done in a number of ways, but the bluetooth sound might be lower quality. You also might consider recording on aa portable audio recorder and then transferring the results to your computer. In the end, you should be able to record directly on your desktop, but depending upon other factors, the hum may not be so easy to eliminate. Maybe, though, you'll be lucky, and turning up the TV's volume a little will clear up everything! Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:17:09 -0400, Dean Masters wrote: Yes it is to a desktop. All outlets are the three prong type which means they should be grounded. Dean -Original Message- From: Joe Paton Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Hum from Cable Hi
Re: Apple TV
Gary, The Apple TV must be plugged into an HDMI input. If your cable box lets you switch between inputs as a few do, this should work. Still, you have to be more specific if our answers are going to mean anything. How is your cable box connected to your TV? Does your cable box have an HDMI input as well as an HDMI output? Does your TV have multiple HDMI inputs assuming that one is being used by your cable box? If you are not sure of all this, you will need to get someone who is familiar with these kinds of connections to give you a hand. There are other variables as well, just too many to guess at. Cable boxes can generally be connected to a TV by HDMI, other analog cables, or using an RF coaxial cable putting its signal on a TV chanel, but this last is not generally used on newer TV's. Some cable boxes have the ability to add extra inputs, usually for games, and an apple TV could be plugged into such an input if it is an HDMI input. TV's themselves often have more than one input, often to accommodate a DVD player, or games, etc. an Apple TV could go there as well if the input is an HDMI input. If a TV is not an HD TV and if it doesn't have HDMI inputs, one can buy converters as mentioned before that will allow an Apple TV to be plugged into older style inputs. To figure this out, though, one has to have an idea of how it needs to be approached and what is available on a particular TV and Cable box. It is really very similar to figuring out how you would connect another input device such as a VCR or video game except that the Apple TV only has an HDMI output for audio and video. There is another Optical audio input that could be used to connect to an audio system, but that's separate from the cable box issue. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:04:01 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: At this time, I don't have it set up, because I had to get a replacement for my cablebox. You see, when a frind of mine got it plugged in, my cablebox wouldn't work. I don't know if the box failed because she plugged the Apple TV into it, or not. I hope that shouldn't effect it though. - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Apple TV Please explain more what you mean. The Apple TV is an input to your regular TV so it does not interfere with what you watch on your regular TV. The Apple TV only received programming from the internet so it does not receive cable channels directly. However, I'm not sure I answered your question. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:50:16 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: When someone sets up Apple TV, can he or she still watch the cable channels normally watched, or can they only watch ones on the Apple TV system?
Re: Apple TV
Please explain more what you mean. The Apple TV is an input to your regular TV so it does not interfere with what you watch on your regular TV. The Apple TV only received programming from the internet so it does not receive cable channels directly. However, I'm not sure I answered your question. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:50:16 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: When someone sets up Apple TV, can he or she still watch the cable channels normally watched, or can they only watch ones on the Apple TV system?
Re: Apple TV
Gary, My response last night got stuck so is late, but the Apple TV shouldn't affect cable at all, it doesn't generally even use the same connections unless you're using an HDMI cable from your cable box. Please explain more about your setup. Also, I've had an Apple TV for a year now and am very happy. There are a good number of things you can do with it for free. For example, you can search for and watch a lot on YouTube, and there is a radio option that has a good number of options as well. There is a lot that can be watched on PBS as well. While not free, the $7.99 a month Netflix streaming option let's you watch a lot of stuff on your Apple TV without paying for each program. If you have other Apple devices such as an iPhone, there are some things you can do to share iTunes music between devices, and you can send your iPhone output to your Apple TV which is nice if you have your Apple TV connected to a stereo. You will need an Apple ID, but you don't need to pay to get that. While Dane is correct that there are restrictions, the big one being that accessing your personal music must be done through iTunes, there are home sharing options that let you access music from another computer on your network that provide some flexibility. I have found the Netflix interface to be much nicer than accessing it through a computer. It would be interesting to know how Raspberry Pie handles that. When someone says It's accessible but not out of the box and there are several ways to go as was said about Raspberry pie, that sets off alarm bells for me. Since you have already made the purchase of the Apple TV, I'd be surprised if you regret it. What concerns me a little is that there may not be a clear understanding of what the Apple TV is, and some of us can help with that. Generally, you can pay to get some programming and you can get some for free, but there aren't really apps as such. You will have to select which input you want to be watching on your TV, and that isn't always simple on some TV's but can usually be mastered. However, we need to understand better how your system is set up and what you already understand so that we don't give you a bunch of useless information. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 04:09:14 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: I did buy one. We tried setting it up the other day, but for some reason, I couldn't get anything on cable. What's the advantages of the Rasberry Pie? - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Apple TV The Apple TV is a separate device from your cable system, nothing whatever to do with the cable system, are you thinking of buying one? The Apple TV is a good system, I have one but there are better systems available such as the Raspberry Pi running XMC Media Center. On 23 Feb 2014, at 1:50 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: When someone sets up Apple TV, can he or she still watch the cable channels normally watched, or can they only watch ones on the Apple TV system? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Apple TV
Dane, I agree, but I would think that he would already know if they had to disconnect the cable box, but yes, we need more information. I had to buy an HDMI to Analog converter for about $30 US for mine so I could use it through an older TV and that has worked all right. If he has analog inputs that may be an option. The bottom line, though, is that we need to know more about his setup as we have both already said. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 05:12:16 +1100, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi! I can't comment any further then I have already done on this thread but I'm wondering if the equipment Gary is using has limited HDMI connectivity, that is to say only 1 HDMI port for example, if this is the case then that may cause problems given that you either have the Cable Box connected or the Apple TV connected so perhaps that's what Gary' getting at when he says he should have a choice of watching Apple TV or Cable? So Gary yes please, give us more details and I'm sure we'll be able to find a solution to the problem. On 24 Feb 2014, at 2:28 am, Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com wrote: Gary, My response last night got stuck so is late, but the Apple TV shouldn't affect cable at all, it doesn't generally even use the same connections unless you're using an HDMI cable from your cable box. Please explain more about your setup. Also, I've had an Apple TV for a year now and am very happy. There are a good number of things you can do with it for free. For example, you can search for and watch a lot on YouTube, and there is a radio option that has a good number of options as well. There is a lot that can be watched on PBS as well. While not free, the $7.99 a month Netflix streaming option let's you watch a lot of stuff on your Apple TV without paying for each program. If you have other Apple devices such as an iPhone, there are some things you can do to share iTunes music between devices, and you can send your iPhone output to your Apple TV which is nice if you have your Apple TV connected to a stereo. You will need an Apple ID, but you don't need to pay to get that. While Dane is correct that there are restrictions, the big one being that accessing your personal music must be done through iTunes, there are home sharing options that let you access music from another computer on your network that provide some flexibility. I have found the Netflix interface to be much nicer than accessing it through a computer. It would be interesting to know how Raspberry Pie handles that. When someone says It's accessible but not out of the box and there are several ways to go as was said about Raspberry pie, that sets off alarm bells for me. Since you have already made the purchase of the Apple TV, I'd be surprised if you regret it. What concerns me a little is that there may not be a clear understanding of what the Apple TV is, and some of us can help with that. Generally, you can pay to get some programming and you can get some for free, but there aren't really apps as such. You will have to select which input you want to be watching on your TV, and that isn't always simple on some TV's but can usually be mastered. However, we need to understand better how your system is set up and what you already understand so that we don't give you a bunch of useless information. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 04:09:14 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: I did buy one. We tried setting it up the other day, but for some reason, I couldn't get anything on cable. What's the advantages of the Rasberry Pie? - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Apple TV The Apple TV is a separate device from your cable system, nothing whatever to do with the cable system, are you thinking of buying one? The Apple TV is a good system, I have one but there are better systems available such as the Raspberry Pi running XMC Media Center. On 23 Feb 2014, at 1:50 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: When someone sets up Apple TV, can he or she still watch the cable channels normally watched, or can they only watch ones on the Apple TV system? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade
Unless I am mistaken, it may not be clear that OOTunes is a gateway to many internet stations and is not just one station. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:17:47 +0100, Adrien Collins wrote: Hi Nothing as yet but it will come, one thing at a time. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 5:21 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade So apart from this OOTunes what other internet radio services are there? Andrea On 17/02/2014 3:06 PM, Sunshine wrote: when you say the other service is that what itunes uses to get their streams? - Original Message - From: Kulvinder Singh Bhogal kbhog...@btinternet.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:30 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade No problem. Kulvinder Singh Bhogal Twitter: @BhogalKulvinder SKYPENAME: bobba2006 Tel: +441332 514323 Mob: +447581 483856 From: Gary Schindler Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 12:37 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade I am glad you cleared this up. - Original Message - From: Kulvinder Singh Bhogal kbhog...@btinternet.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade Hi there Just to clear up this business about Tunein radio, the Stream does not use it but it does use Ootunes like the Apple products do. Regards Kulvinder Singh Bhogal Twitter: @BhogalKulvinder SKYPENAME: bobba2006 Tel: +441332 514323 Mob: +447581 483856 From: Howard Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:36 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade howard wolcott -- From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:02 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade Possibly they do and no one has said they aren't. On 15 Feb 2014, at 11:57 pm, Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net wrote: I thought that Humanware used Tunein Radio. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:48 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade Okay well that's not too bad then if Humanware are using a provider, I don't know what the provider is for Apple's iTunes/Apple TV Radio service, I know that Denon and Panasonic use vTunes and Sangean use something called Wifi Radio. On 15 Feb 2014, at 9:34 pm, Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk wrote: hi, no not flash, and it's also only afiliated with one radio provider. The same one as Apple is using. But there are allot of well known stations like public service stations, and even ACB. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream Upgrade So can the Victor Reader Stream handle flash streams like most other portable Internet Radio devices can? If it can then I'll certainly look at buying one. hi: humanware uses ootunes. One thing than can be said about the new Victor Reader Stream is that it has a far better speaker than the older model but then again, what doesn't! I'm looking at Daisy players at the moment, the Plextalk Pocket looks a very attractive option still even though the processor isn't as good as that found in the Stream, dealers tell me that still the firmware is far better. The Milestone is also something I'm considering, Bluetooth connectivity is very appealing. On 12 Feb 2014, at 11:09 am, Andrea Sherry sherr...@wideband.net.au wrote: Some may be interested in the latest upgrade for this device. Using the in-built wireless facility users now have the capability of accessing on-line radio. Hopefully current VRS users have received notification of this change. The upgrade can be installed using the update facility of the VRS or can be downloaded from the Humanware site and then installed. Andrea -- Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending. - Carl Brad ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- This email is free from
Re: Sound Forge Pro 11
Yes, you can have multiple versions of Sound Forge on one computer. I currently have versions 10 and 11. I believe everything you can do in version 6 you can do in 11, but there are some things that are not all that accessible, and I wouldn't say that accessibility improved. However, some bugs have been fixed and version 11 will work with later versions of Windows. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:24:37 -0600, Kelly Sapergia wrote: Hi, Currently, I use version 6.0D of Sound Forge, but have been considering upgrading to Pro 11. Has anyone tried this version? If so, how do you like it in terms of accessibility and usability? I've downloaded the demo version of 11, and am wondering if it can be installed alongside version 6? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia Show Host and Production Director The Global Voice Internet Radio www.theglobalvoice.info Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com
RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?
I do not believe that rewind and fast forward work on all file types. In particular, I am not sure they work on MP3 files, for example, or at least not on all bit- rates. However, it is possible that CONTROL-SHIFT-B is used by your screen reader. For example. Window-Eyes uses it to toggle between restrictions on the mouse pointer keys. You can get past that by using the key that bypasses controls first. In case of Window-Eyes, pressing INSERT-B first will cause CONTROL-SHIFT-B to be passed through to Windows Media Player. One way you can determine if the rewind is working is to find Rewind in the menus. Go do Play and then to rewind. If it is not functioning, it will say Rewind disabled. Incidentally, I have some MP3's where fast forward works but rewind does not. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:23:05 +0100, Alexandra Grnauer wrote: Hi Humberto, thanks, but the control-shift-b button doesn't work. There must be some setting that makes it work and I can't find it. How did you make it work? Take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:48 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player? Control-Shift-B to rewind Control-Shift-F to Fast Forward Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:07 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player? I would kind of like to know this myself, for so far (as much as I can determine) there seems to be no way to do this! So this is why I use Winamp! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Grnauer Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:02 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player? Hi List, I hope someone can help me. In school my students have to use windows media player. I read in the menu that the short cut to rewinding or moving backward in a track is supposed tob e control shift b. But in the menu it keeps telling me that it is not available and the key stroke ctrl+shift+b doesn't work either. What do I have to do to make it work? The fast forward ctrl+shift+f works fine. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Alexandra
RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?
Alexandra, You are probably partly right but it is more complicated. I think that rewinde works all right on WMA and WAV files for example, and I think it works on some MP3's. Also, I have heard that WinAmp does better with this than Windows Media Player on MP3 files. Therefore, it might be the player to some extent but it is also the file type as some files will rewind fine in Windows Media Player. While it is probably true that some players handle this better than Windows Media Player, there are a number of variables in MP3 files that can make a difference in other cases. I've had MP3 files, for example that will play on my BookSense but not on a BrailleNote. If you have determined that the problem is not your bypass key, then there is nothing else you can do, but you might find that rewinding does work sometimes. Also, the seq slider does seem to generally work, and who knows, maybe this is something that will get fixed at some point by Microsoft, or maybe there is some other setting that causes this that someone else here is aware of. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 18:56:04 +0100, Alexandra Grünauer wrote: Thanks for this information. The bypassing is not the problem because my sighted assistant told mea s wellt hat moving backward is not available. The funny thing ist hat moving forward works fine while moving backward isn't available. So it can't be the files but must be the media player. Take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:23 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player? I do not believe that rewind and fast forward work on all file types. In particular, I am not sure they work on MP3 files, for example, or at least not on all bit- rates. However, it is possible that CONTROL-SHIFT-B is used by your screen reader. For example. Window-Eyes uses it to toggle between restrictions on the mouse pointer keys. You can get past that by using the key that bypasses controls first. In case of Window-Eyes, pressing INSERT-B first will cause CONTROL-SHIFT-B to be passed through to Windows Media Player. One way you can determine if the rewind is working is to find Rewind in the menus. Go do Play and then to rewind. If it is not functioning, it will say Rewind disabled. Incidentally, I have some MP3's where fast forward works but rewind does not. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:23:05 +0100, Alexandra Grnauer wrote: Hi Humberto, thanks, but the control-shift-b button doesn't work. There must be some setting that makes it work and I can't find it. How did you make it work? Take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:48 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player? Control-Shift-B to rewind Control-Shift-F to Fast Forward Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:07 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player? I would kind of like to know this myself, for so far (as much as I can determine) there seems to be no way to do this! So this is why I use Winamp! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Grnauer Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:02 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player? Hi List, I hope someone can help me. In school my students have to use windows media player. I read in the menu that the short cut to rewinding or moving backward in a track is supposed tob e control shift b. But in the menu it keeps telling me that it is not available and the key stroke ctrl+shift+b doesn't work either. What do I have to do to make it work? The fast forward ctrl+shift+f works fine. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Alexandra
Re: wintrans
Leslie, If you mean the WINTRANS braille translator, I might be able to help but we should probably take it off list since the only thing that is audio are error tones. WINTRANS as I know it is a Windows program that runs NFBTRANS. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:52:17 -0800, leslie ferrell wrote: Does anyone know how to use wintrans. I've had it on my computer for a long time and want to use it but forgot how. thanks leslie -- How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?
Re: What are the common keyboard shortcuts for Goldwave Soundforge
If you are able to look at all of the shortcuts used by Sound Forge, Gold Wave,
and even Adobe Audition, and thorw in Audacity, you will see that these
programs have so many that conflict that it is hard to
make any kind of recommendation. For example, sound Forge uses I for Mark In
and o for Mark Out. The arrow keys work somewhat differently. Copying any
program's keyboard shortcuts completely might
also raise issues with those programs. Each of these programs have some
shortcuts that are probably not even that important. To me, the actual
shortcut chosen is less important than being able to assign a
shortcut. Without knowing the scope of his program, it is hard to make
suggestions. As many shortcuts as Sound Forge have, there are places where
more are needed in some of their plug-ins.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:24:02 -0500, Petro T. Giannakopoulos wrote:
I don't have Goldwave here. I am looking for some recommendations when it
comes to keyboard shortcuts for editing type software programs.
Keep up the great work there!
- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: What are the common keyboard shortcuts for Goldwave Soundforge
I've never assumed that any software - whether it be Audio, Video or
anything else - had any particular standard which was adhered to when it
comes to keyboard shortcuts apart from those used as
standard keyboard shortcuts in Microsoft Windows such as Copy To clipboard
CTRL-C, Paste From Clipboard CTRL-V and so on.
With both pieces of software you can customise the keyboard shortcuts to
your liking.
With Goldwave you'll find a complete Keyboard Shortcut reference in the
Goldwave User Manual found under the help menu.
On 11 Dec 2013, at 12:54 pm, Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net
wrote:
I am helping a developer with his software program. It will be both a
video and audio editing program. He wants to know what you would recommend
when it comes to keyboard shortcuts for his editing
program.
I have so far,
{ for Start Mark
} for End Mark
What about for the slider control?
he will add a context menu key list of options.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Re: is there hope for a noisy recording?
Dale, Use Audition's noise reduction process. It has been a while since I used Audition 1.5, but I used it a lot at one time, and its noise reduction works pretty well. Even if there are some crackles and pops, I am guessing that the noise is fairly constant which is more what the noise reduction process is for. You will have to experiment some to get the best results possible, but you might be able to get something worthwhile. The noise reduction process requires that you capture a bit of noise only that it can use to compare with your recording to remove. This means you need to find a relatively silent place and use that. Unfortunately, my muddled mind now doesn't remember how it works in Audition as opposed to Sound Forge, so if you can't figure it out you may have to remind me what options you have. There are several settings you need to play with as well to see what effect they have. One thing you might want to to do is to set the FFT value to a high value before you capture the noise sample. It seems to me that the sample has to be using the same FFT value. Generally, the higher the value, the longer the process takes but the fewer digital artifacts result. I believe the FFT value was in a combo box and it tends to be expressed in powers of 2. I think 4096 or 8192 are pretty good values. Once you have the noise sample, you can mark part of the recording and preview your noise reduction with different values. It is almost certain that you can get rid of a lot of the noise. What is not certain is how badly it may affect the remaining sound. Only you can judge what is acceptable. Usually, one finds that rather than shooting for the miracle cure, one is best off getting rid of some noise and leaving some noise along with a more intact recording. As I recall, the Audition help file describes the settings pretty well, but it assumes some knowledge so I remember I had to read it a few times before it made sense. Good luck. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:48:28 -0600, DALE HELTZER wrote: Here's the situation: I brought a PTP-1 to a telethon audition. Because the amplification in the room was so high, I set the recording volume of the PTP-1 quite low, but because I was in a hurry, I set it *too low. When I tried to listen to the recording later, I heard *nothing. In disbelief, I put the *.wav file on my computer and normalized it to 99 percent. The result sounds like something Thomas Edison might have recorded on a wax cylinder - *very noisy with lots of crackle. I've tried using Adobe Audition V1.5's click and pop functions, but don't get much satisfaction. Any suggestions? Thanks. Dale E. Heltzer dehelt...@msn.com
Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media
Tom, You can rip them in the version of Windows Media Player that I use, and I think it is the latest. You can rip from the Now Playing window which is accessed with CONTROL-3, or is probably the window that has focus if Windows Media Player starts automatically when you put in a CD. Some screen readers don't read the controls, though. Another approach is to go to the Tools and Options menu and choose the rip tab. You can choose which format you want them ripped to there, and you can also check a box that will rip a cd automatically when you start Windows Media Player. Unfortunately, how a lot of this works depends upon your autoplay settings and even your screen reader, but it's worth exploring before you get another program. If your screen reader doesn't read the controls on the now playing window, NVDA should work. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:37:22 -0500, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: Is it still possible, using Windows Media Player to rip a CD? I've just tried to rip my first one with this new computer, using Windows Media Player! However I see nothing that says Rip in the menus! I am running Windows 7 (64 bit) running Jaws 15; is it still possible to do this? Or will I need to use another program to rip my CDs? Tom Kaufman
Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media
What I think was missed now that I have seen all of the messages is that there is no start Ripping in the options, he is right. However, there is a control to start ripping on the now playing window, but some screen readers don't pick it up. Tom, which screen reader are you using? If you don't want to rip automatically, you might need to use NVDA for now. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:38:05 -0500, ken reed wrote: Hi, Steve gave you good advice. It sounds like he's ben there with windows media. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 4:47 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping CDs With Windows Media Ken: Are you saying that Windows Media no longer is accessible? This is mainly what I used with no difficulty with XP; Cdex is also good; I just figured since Windows Media is already here, I could just go ahead and use it! But maybe not; I don't know! This is why I decided to put it out here and see what it is I need to do (if I can even rip) CDs, using Windows Media anymore! Thanks for your responses thus far! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of ken reed Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 4:15 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media This is my advice. Use cdburnerxp, or egsact audio copy. A lot of people use things like nero also. I haven't used nero, but I have used these above programs. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 3:58 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping CDs With Windows Media Ken and list: I am attempting to rip a CD using Windows Media Player! It was no problem with my old machine! However, I find that with windows 7 and Windows Media 12, there appears to be no way to rip! I obviously am missing something! Help appreciated! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of ken reed Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 3:55 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media Hi Thom, I've seen a wrip there, but if you still have winamp theres a wrip in the library, and as long as you have a playlist you can creat an audio cd. -Original Message- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 3:37 PM To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Ripping CDs With Windows Media Hello list: Is it still possible, using Windows Media Player to rip a CD? I've just tried to rip my first one with this new computer, using Windows Media Player! However I see nothing that says Rip in the menus! I am running Windows 7 (64 bit) running Jaws 15; is it still possible to do this? Or will I need to use another program to rip my CDs? Tom Kaufman
RE: Ripping CDs With Windows Media
Tom, I agree with you, but there is a sort of logic to it. If you are playing a CD, the CD is not what is Now Playing because it takes precedence over your libraries. What happened is that you chose the WinAmp option to Autoplay when you put in a CD. You can choose what Windows 7 does automatically with all kinds of media. If you bring up the Start Menu, type Autoplay into the Edit box and then use the UP and DOWN ARROW to see what was found. You should see a couple of Autoplay options that will help you. You should be able to find out what will be done when a CD is inserted and see that your current choice is Winamp. You can change that to Windows Media Player, or I think there is an option to have it ask you what you want done. You should be able to close WinAmp and open Windows Media Player as well, but you might have to select Audio CD or something, I have not tried that. Also, when I just experimented, I could not get the rip button to show, but I think it is because I already ripped the CD I put in and it is getting too late for me to think clearly. smile I have ripped a CD within the past week, though, by turning on rip CD Automatically so that is another option that works. It is in the Tools options and on the Rip Music tab. I'm curious about the Rip button now, though. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:29:08 -0500, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello Steve and list: I think I saw that now playing thing, but it didn't sound like this was what I wanted! Would be nice if these programs would say it how they mean it! Before, there was a definite start rip button (or something that clearly indicated that this is what you wanted to do if you wanted to rip) in case you missed it before, am running Jaws 15 with Windows Home Premium. When I first put the CD in, it gave me choices; one of those was play CD using Winamp. At the time, I wanted to hear the CD, so this is what I chose; problem is that, now when I put the CD in, it just brings up Winamp and starts playing! There seems to be no way to get around it; at least not as far as I can tell! But thanks for your explanation and will try to put your instructions to use! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 6:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping CDs With Windows Media Tom, You can rip them in the version of Windows Media Player that I use, and I think it is the latest. You can rip from the Now Playing window which is accessed with CONTROL-3, or is probably the window that has focus if Windows Media Player starts automatically when you put in a CD. Some screen readers don't read the controls, though. Another approach is to go to the Tools and Options menu and choose the rip tab. You can choose which format you want them ripped to there, and you can also check a box that will rip a cd automatically when you start Windows Media Player. Unfortunately, how a lot of this works depends upon your autoplay settings and even your screen reader, but it's worth exploring before you get another program. If your screen reader doesn't read the controls on the now playing window, NVDA should work. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:37:22 -0500, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: Is it still possible, using Windows Media Player to rip a CD? I've just tried to rip my first one with this new computer, using Windows Media Player! However I see nothing that says Rip in the menus! I am running Windows 7 (64 bit) running Jaws 15; is it still possible to do this? Or will I need to use another program to rip my CDs? Tom Kaufman
Re: another soundforge question
Some versions of Sound Forge have an append checkbox in the open dialog. If you have that option, check it and each file you open will be appended. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:21:31 +, brian parker wrote: Hi, is there any way of using soundforge to join a number of mp3 files together to make one file. that is, apart from loading them one by one, and joining them through the clipboard. brian. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: copying audio cd's onto a computer
John, Strictly speaking, even though you have audio files on the CD, it is likely a data CD since it is holding many MP3 files. An audio CD has a fairly prescribed format and you can only get about 75 minutes, give or take a few, on a CD. Normally you can treat a data CD as you would treat an external file. Are you trying to copy selected files, or do you want to copy the whole CD? If you are saying the disk was not finalized, I'm not certain what the best approach would be. When you put the CD in, can you look at the files with Windows Explorer? If you can, try pressing the applications key, the one that brings up the context menu, and check to see what options there are. can you play the files on your computer? I am just trying to determine what functionality is being affected by the disk not being finalized. The next time you have a sighted person there, try to determine if the problem is that you cannot select files to be copied, or if the problem is with pasting it. Still, if you can select a file and press ENTER to play it, then selecting the file and seeing what the Applications key choices are might be helpful. I have seen situations where there was a copy option in the Application Key menu that worked when CONTROL-C did not work, for example, although that is very rare. As you may know from the GW Micro lists, I am also a Window-Eyes user. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:17:33 -0400, john riehl wrote: They are audio, mp3 cd's. I tried copying and pasting but that didn't work; apparently the discs weren't finished. A sighted friend can drag and drop the files, but I don't know how to do that with Windoweyes. From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:12 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer John, First, you need to determine if the old radio shows are stored as MP3 or other audio file types, or if the CD is an audio CD. If they are stored as MP3 files or files in some other format, then you should be able to cut and paste them and knowing exactly what you did and what happened would be helpful. If the CD contains MP3 files, than there would be many hours of programming on a single CD. If each CD contains only an hour or a little more of programming, then the CD is probably an Audio CD and you will need to rip the cd to your computer. Even Windows Media Player can do that but there is other software as well. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:11:15 -0400, john riehl wrote: I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did not work. I have Nero burning Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto my computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody got any ideas? John riehl To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8872 (20131003) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer
I am seeing a lot of responses as to how he can rip these CD's, but from what he has said, it seems to me that his CD's are unfinalized data CD's with MP3 files. Therefore, I'm not sure that ripping them will work, unless some have had experience to the contrary. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 21:16:34 -0500, Sunshine wrote: or ez audio converter will help you rip them to your computer. - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler how...@traxlerenterprises.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:22 PM Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer CDex or Express Rip. - Original Message - From: john riehl realma...@verizon.net To: pcaudio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:11 PM Subject: copying audio cd's onto a computer I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did not work. I have Nero burning Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto my computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody got any ideas? John riehl To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Marking in and out points in Sound Forge
Steve, I don't have a copy of Sound Forge here at work or I would be more specific, but when I am going to delete something I use the key that reads the pre-roll and post-roll without reading the selection which I believe is CONTROL-K. This, in effect, shows me how the delete will work without actually performing the deletion. That allows me to avoid having to undo the action. This also allows me to see in advance that my selection isn't what I expected. I've had the same problem that you have had where sometimes it seems that the beginning of my selection is stuck at a previous point instead of where I just marked. I've had this problem with a good number of versions of Sound Forge now so I assume this is probably not a bug but rather something I am not understanding. It is probably obvious visually. smile Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:18:05 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote: I am having two troubles with this. First, how do you know where the marks are once you press the I or O keys? Second, if you mark something, then delete it, decide you don't like how it sounds and want to do it over, and use the Undo function, what happens to the markers? Are they brought back, or do you have to re-mark? Third, after marking in and out points and deleting, sometimes when I press the PageUp key, I get thrown back to some previously marked point, or I discover that the in mark is somewhere way off in the distance. How did that happen, and how do I prevent it from happening? It doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's a major source of annoyance and frustration because it means I have to go back and redo something I thought I'd done right the first time but hadn't. TIA if you know what's going on and set me straight on it. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: copying audio cd's onto a computer
John, I don't mind writing you off list but I don't know what else to suggest and others on this list probably have more experience with dealing with unfinalized CD's than I do. It might help if you would explain what happens when you put the CD in. Do you get Autoplay options? Are you able to play the files on the CD with your computer? Are you seeing a Windows Explorer sort of list or are you seeing some other software coming up with the list? If you are not seeing a Windows Explorer list, have you tried opening Windows Explorer and finding the CD there to see if that allows you to copy? I mentioned that I use Window-Eyes, but I don't think this is a screen reader problem. If you have done the same thing with the same CD under Windows XP, it seems unlikely that it won't work under Windows 7, so it seems as though something extra is probably occurring of which we are not aware. While I'm all right at digging out facts, I don't consider myself an expert in this area, which is why I have kept this on the list for now. smile Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:48:12 -0400, john riehl wrote: Steve, rather than tying up the list, can you e-mai me off-list? These are unfinished CD's; I don't remember seeing a copy option when I hit the context key. I want to copy all of the files from the CDs onto my computer. Thanks for all of your suggestions. John From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: copying audio cd's onto a computer John, Strictly speaking, even though you have audio files on the CD, it is likely a data CD since it is holding many MP3 files. An audio CD has a fairly prescribed format and you can only get about 75 minutes, give or take a few, on a CD. Normally you can treat a data CD as you would treat an external file. Are you trying to copy selected files, or do you want to copy the whole CD? If you are saying the disk was not finalized, I'm not certain what the best approach would be. When you put the CD in, can you look at the files with Windows Explorer? If you can, try pressing the applications key, the one that brings up the context menu, and check to see what options there are. can you play the files on your computer? I am just trying to determine what functionality is being affected by the disk not being finalized. The next time you have a sighted person there, try to determine if the problem is that you cannot select files to be copied, or if the problem is with pasting it. Still, if you can select a file and press ENTER to play it, then selecting the file and seeing what the Applications key choices are might be helpful. I have seen situations where there was a copy option in the Application Key menu that worked when CONTROL-C did not work, for example, although that is very rare. As you may know from the GW Micro lists, I am also a Window-Eyes user. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:17:33 -0400, john riehl wrote: They are audio, mp3 cd's. I tried copying and pasting but that didn't work; apparently the discs weren't finished. A sighted friend can drag and drop the files, but I don't know how to do that with Windoweyes. From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:12 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer John, First, you need to determine if the old radio shows are stored as MP3 or other audio file types, or if the CD is an audio CD. If they are stored as MP3 files or files in some other format, then you should be able to cut and paste them and knowing exactly what you did and what happened would be helpful. If the CD contains MP3 files, than there would be many hours of programming on a single CD. If each CD contains only an hour or a little more of programming, then the CD is probably an Audio CD and you will need to rip the cd to your computer. Even Windows Media Player can do that but there is other software as well. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:11:15 -0400, john riehl wrote: I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did not work. I have Nero burning Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto my computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody got any ideas? John riehl To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8872 (20131003) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send
Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer
Just for the record, Window-Eyes does allow one to drag and drop in a manner that is similar to what I remember JFW doing. smile Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:47:02 -0400, Dave Scrimenti wrote: If WindowEyes doesn't let you drag and drop, try NVDA or a demo of JFW. Or even easier, just have your sighted friend move the files to your PC. After all, how often are you going to encounter these unfinalized CD's? As long as you can play them, and copy and paste them to an external drive, you don't have to use the CD's again. I know you want to do it yourself, but why go through all this unnecessary trouble for something you'll rarely if ever have to do in the future? - Original Message - From: john riehl realma...@verizon.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:57 PM Subject: RE: copying audio cd's onto a computer As I said, a sighted friend can drag and drop with no problem but I am not able to copy and paste. The drive reads the CDs fine and once I get them onto my C drive they play fine. It's figuring out that intermediate step that's the problem. From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:49 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer It just occurred to me after reading your other message that unless it's the same kind of drive, and maybe the same software, it can't read unfinalized disks. I put one of these in my current drive from another drive where I didn't finalize and it wouldn't play or read. In my case, it was a movie and the software to read the disk couldn't possibly be the same. - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:31 AM Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer I am seeing a lot of responses as to how he can rip these CD's, but from what he has said, it seems to me that his CD's are unfinalized data CD's with MP3 files. Therefore, I'm not sure that ripping them will work, unless some have had experience to the contrary. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 21:16:34 -0500, Sunshine wrote: or ez audio converter will help you rip them to your computer. - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler how...@traxlerenterprises.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:22 PM Subject: Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer CDex or Express Rip. - Original Message - From: john riehl realma...@verizon.net To: pcaudio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:11 PM Subject: copying audio cd's onto a computer I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did not work. I have Nero burning Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto my computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody got any ideas? John riehl To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8875 (20131004) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: copying audio cd's onto a computer
John, First, you need to determine if the old radio shows are stored as MP3 or other audio file types, or if the CD is an audio CD. If they are stored as MP3 files or files in some other format, then you should be able to cut and paste them and knowing exactly what you did and what happened would be helpful. If the CD contains MP3 files, than there would be many hours of programming on a single CD. If each CD contains only an hour or a little more of programming, then the CD is probably an Audio CD and you will need to rip the cd to your computer. Even Windows Media Player can do that but there is other software as well. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:11:15 -0400, john riehl wrote: I've just purchased a number of old-time radio shows on cd. I want to copy them onto my computer. I tried copying and pasting the files but that did not work. I have Nero burning Rom, but I can't find an option to copy a CD onto my computer. I've done this with XP, but am now using Windows-7. Anybody got any ideas? John riehl To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Help needed with Best Buy HD radio
Don, Hold down the PRESET button that you are not using to delete. As I recall, the DOWN button deletes and the UP button stores. Remember, though, that presets are accessed in the order of their frequency and not the order in which you enter them which I think is poor. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:32:52 -0700, Donald L. Roberts wrote: I apologize for asking this question here, but I completely struck out on Blind tech. I bought the now discontinued HD radio from Best Buy. This set is nothing to get excited about but does have a few nice features. I cannot seem to locate the accessible instructions for operating this radio, and I cannot recall how to save a station in the presets. I can delete a preset but can't save one. Please if anyone on list has this thing and knows the answer, please tell me how to save a preset. Additionally, if someone can point me to an accessible set of instructions I would be most grateful. Thanks for any assistance. Don Roberts To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: AC line filter question
John, Here are a couple of thoughts on this, although Gary may have some better ideas. First, have you been able to establish whether you hear the high-pitched sound when recordings are being monitored? I have seen it happen where sounds like this are introduced particularly when playing back a recording made at a lower sampling rate. If you can hear the sound while monitoring the mixer through your computer, then check each of your inputs by turning all of the gains down to see if this problem is being introduced by a particular input. Extraneous noise can easily be introduced by a microphone input if nothing is plugged in but the gain is up for example. If you find that a particular input is causing the problem, then determine if it remains if you disconnect the cable to that input. Knowing which device is causing the problem might help us come up with ideas. Make sure your mixer isn't sitting on top of or just underneath another device such as a modem or router. If you find that you still hear the pitch even with all inputs durned down, the problem is harder to find. However, it is still worth unplugging all cables to the mixer except the USB cable that connects it to the computer to see if the sound disappears. If it does not, you should look at options that affect the USB interface to your computer. Even trying another USB input or another USB cable is worth while. If disconnecting all cables even with the gain turned down removes the problem, reconnect each cable until you figure out which cable starts the problem. If a digital device is connected to that cable, it is possible that the analog output of the digital device doesn't have remaining digital signals filtered out very well. Another possibility is that you have what is called a ground loop. Ground loops most often cause AC hum to be added, but they can cause digitial interference as well. They result when a device has two separate ground paths going to a computer. For example, if you had an audio player connected to computer speakers that are also connected to your computer, a ground path will exist from that device to your speakers and then to your computer. If that device is also connected to the mixer, a second ground path exists from the device, through the mixer, and then to your computer through the USB cable. This isn't an exact science, though, and it can depend some on how various devices are designed, and whether your mixer accepts digital inputs as well as analog inputs and on and on. But you have to narrow down the cause before you can attack it. Another thing to check is whether you have other devices that might emit interference that is getting into your system. For example, older computer monitors or televisions can emit interference. If such a device is too close to your equipment, this can get into your system and result in audible interference when it mixes with other digital signals. Good luck. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:45:44 -0400, John Chilelli wrote: Gary, I'm using a new Allen -Heath Zed 10Fx mixing board with usb interface and my cableing is brand new as well. My Win 7 I3, 8gb computer is also brand new and I'm using Audacity 2.0.3. In a way I'm glad you don't think that it is line noise interference. But how do I go about finding the problem? Oh I forgot to mention that I'm using one of two new EV voice quality mics and a Kurzwell K2600. Any suggestions on how I go about finding where the problem may be is appreciated. Thanks, John On 9/10/2013 10:14 PM, Gary Schindler wrote: That doesn't sound like an AC line problem. If you had an AC line problem you would hear a 60 or 120 HZ hum. it wouldn't be high pitched. It may be noisy circuitry in your mixer, coupled with a cabling problem, such as poor shielding or an impedance mismatch. - Original Message - From: John Chilelli j...@neo.rr.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:48 PM Subject: AC line filter question Hi all, I am experiencing some sort of high pitch line noise in my recordings. I am using an Allen - Heath mixing board with a usb interface into my Windows 7 computer using Audacity 2.0.4. I was told that I should look into an AC line adapter, but I'm afraid that the entire electrical system for tha room I am using is on one circut, including overhead lights and fans. I wish to be able to get rid of this line noise that exists even with the overhead fan off. Can anyone make a good suggestion as to what I should do for this problem? Thanks, John To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from
Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity
Although I would not argue with the assessment of Audition, apparently Audition makes some of its information available through MSAA, or possibly UI Automation, so there is some possibility that it could be made more accessible with scripting. However, I think there are still gaps in the accessibility. I was a CoolEdit and Audition user through 1.5 and liked the program and was frustrated to see this change, but I thought it was worth mentioning that if someone needs to use Audition for some reason, there might be some possibilities that have not been explored because of the availability of other alternatives. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:49:53 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote: To the best of my knowledge, Audition is not accessible with Jaws and is not likely to be at any time in the future. Audacity, on the other hand, is very accessible using a screen reader as blind people have played a central role in its development. Audacity is a multi-track editor and has various audio processing plug ins which make it possible to produce a high quality stereo output. However, for the first time user, Audacity can be quite daunting unless you are prepared to read the manual and experiment. Bob Nelson - Original Message - From: Andr van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:36 AM Subject: comparing adobe audition and audacity Hi all Another of my silly home recording questions. This is after I have spoken to a friend of mine. What is the difference between adobe audition and audacity? Do they perform the same function. Is adobe audition also accessible with Jaws 14 on windows 7? Just curious! Andre To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: question
Curtis, I don't want to have given Joe bad advice, but I didn't notice much of what I did with Sound Forge 6 to be less accessible in version 10 and 11, but there has been stuff added that is not all that accessible. I don't know about Sound Forge 7, but I upgraded because I could not get version 6 to work with Windows 7 64-bit. Am I missing something? On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 01:21:51 -0700, Curtis Delzer wrote: I would upgrade no higher than sf8 if you can get it. SF10 or now it is sf11 isn't quite as accessible as 8 and earlier. -- Curtis Delzer. HS. K 6 V F O San Bernardino, CA. curtis1...@verizon.net skype: curtis1014 On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:03:51 +0100 Joe Bollard joebolla...@eircom.net wrote: eureka, it worked, a different USB cable and we're in business thanks folks, for all your help, thinking now of upgrading from sound forge seven to sound forge ten, is there much of a difference? and will i have to get new scripts? thanks again all of you, god bless, travel safely, joe., To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: question
Joe, Sound Forge 11 is out now. The basic interfaces are not much different, but there has been quite a number of things added. Some of what has been added is not accessible with screen readers, though, like some of the new plug-ins. However, I have not concentrated on figuring them out, so perhaps there is a way to handle it if one works at it. I think that being ab le to create a CD from inside Sound Forge might be new since 7, and I've used that successfully. Also, sound Forge 11 has a transport menu item so that you can get at transport controls from the menu bar instead of needing to get to the transport controls window. Of course, most have keyboard shortcuts, but sometimes it is handy to have the pulldown menu when you can't remember a specific shortcut. Sound Forge 11 as made some changes to the Record dialog, too, which mostly is accessible, although I have not used it much. I really can't comment on the multi-track capability to know if that has changed or is better. I went from Sound Forge 6 to 10 and did not find the things I did to have changed much. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:03:51 +0100, Joe Bollard wrote: eureka, it worked, a different USB cable and we're in business thanks folks, for all your help, thinking now of upgrading from sound forge seven to sound forge ten, is there much of a difference? and will i have to get new scripts? thanks again all of you, god bless, travel safely, joe., To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: question
Thanks. I guess I only used the noise reduction plug-ins on the effects menu and they don't appear to have changed. Best regards, Steve Jacobson main noise reduction On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:17:15 -0700, Curtis Delzer wrote: Some of the noise plug-in dialogs are not as accessible after v8, that has been my experience, otherwise it is similar. -- Curtis Delzer. HS. K 6 V F O San Bernardino, CA. curtis1...@verizon.net skype: curtis1014 On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 06:09:34 -0500 Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com wrote: Curtis, I don't want to have given Joe bad advice, but I didn't notice much of what I did with Sound Forge 6 to be less accessible in version 10 and 11, but there has been stuff added that is not all that accessible. I don't know about Sound Forge 7, but I upgraded because I could not get version 6 to work with Windows 7 64-bit. Am I missing something? On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 01:21:51 -0700, Curtis Delzer wrote: I would upgrade no higher than sf8 if you can get it. SF10 or now it is sf11 isn't quite as accessible as 8 and earlier. -- Curtis Delzer. HS. K 6 V F O San Bernardino, CA. curtis1...@verizon.net skype: curtis1014 On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:03:51 +0100 Joe Bollard joebolla...@eircom.net wrote: eureka, it worked, a different USB cable and we're in business thanks folks, for all your help, thinking now of upgrading from sound forge seven to sound forge ten, is there much of a difference? and will i have to get new scripts? thanks again all of you, god bless, travel safely, joe., To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Apple TV
Gary, To get your Apple TV going, you could move the HDMI cable from your cable box to your Apple TV. That should work. You probably don't want to do that in the long run, though, as those connectes may not stand up to that kind of frequent connecting and disconnecting. As someone else mentioned, it is quite possible you have a second HDMI input on your TV, and if that is the case you will probably want to use a separate HDMI cable to connect your apple TV to that input. You will need to be able to switch between inputs in that case, cable box or Apple TV using your TV's remode. The problem is that we could be giving you useless information since I don't know if you have a second HDMI input on your TV, nor do I know if you might have an HDMI input on your cable box. I've seen cable boxes with game inputs for example. You probably need someone there to work with you on this to figure out the best solution, or gather some additional information so we can be of better assistance. TV's and even cable boxes nowadays can vary a good deal in terms of inputs and outputs. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:40:38 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: Thanks Steve. Maybe I shouldn't have given you this much yet. One end of my hdmi cable is connected to the cable box, and the other end is connected to my TV. Now the end that is connected to the cablebox, should that end be connected to the Apple TV? - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV Gary, Yes, Apple TV comes with its own remote but it doesn't look like a normal remote. It is very thin and fairly narrow and is made of metal. When you open your Apple TV, you could easily miss it. As I mentioned bfore, it has only a few buttons. If you have not opened the box yet, you definitely should check out some of the resources and read about it to make sure you have everything you need. For example, I don't think mine came with an HDMI cable, so if you got this as a result of an auction, you will need to see if you have an HDMI cable for it. It sounds as though we may be giving you too much information too quickly if you haven't seen the remote control yet. If you have more basic questions, we can try to help, but there is a lot we don't know about your setup. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:35:18 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: Thank you. Then it comes with its own remote. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Apple TV Gary, no you can't use the cable tv remote to interact with the apple tv for things like selecting netflix movies or iTunes movies etc. Mary To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Apple TV
For what it is worth, Amazon has HDMI to Analog converters and I had to buy one to use our Apple TV with the old TV. The first one didn't work but the second one seems fine. It converts the HDMI signal to a video out jack and stereo audio outputs. The autio is fine and I hear the picture isn't super but good enough to get by. I think I paid around forty dollars for it so it isn't cheap. I also had to buy an HDMI cable with our Apple TV as it was not included. Amazon actually had a bundle of Apple TV, HDMI Cable and the HDMI to analog converter. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:58:11 -0400, Merv Keck wrote: I've been thinking about getting an Apple TV but our 52 or 54 inch HDTV is a 2004 model and does not have an HDMI jack. We currently have a Roku 2 however, my eyes have got to the point that out of the over 500 channels available on the roku I can see to access like 5 of them and Roku does not seem like they are interested in accessibility. I have written to them several times concerning accessibility and noted the Apple TV. A friend of ours has the Apple TV and I liked what I saw however I am not sure I can make it work with our current setup. I just recently dropped Hulu plus because it has got so ftrustrating to use not only on the iPhone but also on the PC and the Roku. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Apple TV
Gary, I'm guessing that the HDMI cable you have mentioned goes from your cable box to your TV. You will need to connect the Apple TV somewhere else, either to an HDMI input on your cable box, if your cable box has an input, or do another HDMI input on your TV, if it has one. However, it sounds as though you have things in hand there, and checking the other resources makes sense. I think you will want to get an Apple ID as well, though. There are multiple ways to get an Apple ID. If you think you may want to be streaming stuff from your computer to your system, you may want to install iTunes on your computer. There is an option within iTunes to create an Apple ID. If you do this, you will want to understand some about iTunes as you will need to decide to what degree you want iTunes to manage media on your computer and whether you want iTunes to become your media player. You can also just do a Google search for create apple id and find a link that way. The link I found is https://appleid.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MyAppleId.woa/wa/createAppleId But there is a CAPTCHA on that page and I did not see an audio alternative that I found. There is no CAPTCHA when creating the ID through iTunes. There are not a lot of functions on the Apple TV, so as Mary said, it likely won't work with another remote unless that remote supports the Apple TV as another device. That could happen at some point, and maybe a programmable remote could learn the Apple remote's codes, but I don't know if it is worth it. The big thing that is useful is a keyboard to type in searches if you use your Apple TV to look for YouTube videos or movies. You can do it using the Apple remote and the on-screen keyboard, but it is slower. Using another TV remote won't help this process at all, even if you could program it. The Apple remote is pretty much just four arrows, a select key, a play/pause, and a Menu button which is also a Back button. I don't have the remote in my hand so I could be missing something, but it is pretty basic. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:37:59 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: I do have an HDMI cable that's connected to my cablebox. I have everything connnected to my surround sound. surround - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV Gary, You need to plug the Apple TV through an HDMI plug to an HD TV. If your cable box has an HDMI input that can be routed to your TV, that might work, I don't know. Cable boxes I have seen have HDMI OUT to go to a TV, and that will not work. You may need to get some help there from someone who knows what equipment you have. Once you get the Apple TV connected to a tv and to a sound source, probably your TV speakers, then you need to get voiceover turned on. I believe that the first time you start the apple TV, it will speak a prompt to turn on voiceOver using the little remote control. If it has already been turned on, you may have missed the prompt, but I believe there is a shortcut to turning it on with the remote. Once you have voiceover going, you will need to explore the menus some. You will next need to get it connected to your WI-FI network because everything you watch on it comes through the internet. I believe that you will next need to enter an Apple-ID and password into the unit. You might try doing some Google searches to see if anyone has instructions for blind persons. The PDF user's guide is all right but some of the steps are shown in pictures. It is hard to know how much more to try to say without knowing your setup. If you bought it at an Apple Store, they are pretty good to answer questions as well, although this can vary. Best regards, Steve On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:07:52 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: Can someone tell me how to install it? I've never seen one of these things before, but what I've seen, it's pretty small. Someone told me that you plug it into HDMi of my cable box, and that's it's accessible using voiceover. I'm sorry that this may be offtopic, but I just want something for starters. I may get an IPhone in the near future. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV No, you do not need an iPhone to make an apple tv work. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr
Re: Apple TV
Gary, Yes, Apple TV comes with its own remote but it doesn't look like a normal remote. It is very thin and fairly narrow and is made of metal. When you open your Apple TV, you could easily miss it. As I mentioned bfore, it has only a few buttons. If you have not opened the box yet, you definitely should check out some of the resources and read about it to make sure you have everything you need. For example, I don't think mine came with an HDMI cable, so if you got this as a result of an auction, you will need to see if you have an HDMI cable for it. It sounds as though we may be giving you too much information too quickly if you haven't seen the remote control yet. If you have more basic questions, we can try to help, but there is a lot we don't know about your setup. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:35:18 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: Thank you. Then it comes with its own remote. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Apple TV Gary, no you can't use the cable tv remote to interact with the apple tv for things like selecting netflix movies or iTunes movies etc. Mary To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Apple TV
Gary, As stated before, getting an Apple ID is a good idea and might be required, but you don't need an iPhone for that. As a matter of fact, I don't know of any way the iPhone will help with Apple TV except that if you had music on your iPhone you could play it through your Apple TV. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:32:58 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: Hi Steve. I had some sighted help, and she told me that I maybe had to have an IPhone, but I'M GLAd I don't. I'll have to see what I can do. I plan to get an IPhone at some point, but I just thought I'd see what I could do presently. oD - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:12 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV Gary, Have you gotten it connected with your WI FI network? If so, what kind of problems are you running into? It is good to get an Apple-ID, and I think some of its functionality depends on you having an Apple- ID. I do not know if that ID acts as a gateway into YouTube and Podcasting or not, but it might. You do not need an iPhone to get an Apple ID, though. If you use iTunes, you already have an Apple ID. Since you can get an Apple ID with an iPhone, that might be what was being thought of, but as stated, you don't need an iPhone to get an Apple ID. It is very nice to have access to iTunes with the Apple TV, so creating an iTunes account when you get an Apple ID is also a good idea. There are a lot of inexpensive movies and TV shows to rent on iTunes, but there is also some free stuff. Using the keyboard for searching can be done with the little remote, but it is much easier with a BlueTooth keyboard. This is something else to consider. The Apple TV supports something called Air Play that lets other apple devices, iPhones, iPods, etc., play music through the apple TV. This is handy but certainly not a must to enjoy the Apple TV. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:59:35 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: Can you give suggestions for a beginner on how to use it? - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV Of course it isn't true, absolute twaddle, utter piffle, nothing but flapdoodle smile. On 30/07/2013, at 11:49 AM, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I just bought an Apple TV almost two weeks ago. Someone told me that you have to buy an IPhone, in order to make it work. Is that true? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Apple TV
Mary, Thank you, and that could be handy. I might have to look into that. To be clear, though, for Gary's purposes, this isn't a requirement to use the Apple TV. Best regards, Steve On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:41:14 -0700, Mary Otten wrote: Steve, Just fyi: if you have an iPhone, or an iPod for that matter, not sure about the iPad, there is a free remote app from Apple that will let you use the i-device as a remote to control the Apple tv, rather than using the remote that comes with the A-tv. Mary To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Apple TV
Gary, Have you gotten it connected with your WI FI network? If so, what kind of problems are you running into? It is good to get an Apple-ID, and I think some of its functionality depends on you having an Apple- ID. I do not know if that ID acts as a gateway into YouTube and Podcasting or not, but it might. You do not need an iPhone to get an Apple ID, though. If you use iTunes, you already have an Apple ID. Since you can get an Apple ID with an iPhone, that might be what was being thought of, but as stated, you don't need an iPhone to get an Apple ID. It is very nice to have access to iTunes with the Apple TV, so creating an iTunes account when you get an Apple ID is also a good idea. There are a lot of inexpensive movies and TV shows to rent on iTunes, but there is also some free stuff. Using the keyboard for searching can be done with the little remote, but it is much easier with a BlueTooth keyboard. This is something else to consider. The Apple TV supports something called Air Play that lets other apple devices, iPhones, iPods, etc., play music through the apple TV. This is handy but certainly not a must to enjoy the Apple TV. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:59:35 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: Can you give suggestions for a beginner on how to use it? - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV Of course it isn't true, absolute twaddle, utter piffle, nothing but flapdoodle smile. On 30/07/2013, at 11:49 AM, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I just bought an Apple TV almost two weeks ago. Someone told me that you have to buy an IPhone, in order to make it work. Is that true? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Apple TV
Gary, You need to plug the Apple TV through an HDMI plug to an HD TV. If your cable box has an HDMI input that can be routed to your TV, that might work, I don't know. Cable boxes I have seen have HDMI OUT to go to a TV, and that will not work. You may need to get some help there from someone who knows what equipment you have. Once you get the Apple TV connected to a tv and to a sound source, probably your TV speakers, then you need to get voiceover turned on. I believe that the first time you start the apple TV, it will speak a prompt to turn on voiceOver using the little remote control. If it has already been turned on, you may have missed the prompt, but I believe there is a shortcut to turning it on with the remote. Once you have voiceover going, you will need to explore the menus some. You will next need to get it connected to your WI-FI network because everything you watch on it comes through the internet. I believe that you will next need to enter an Apple-ID and password into the unit. You might try doing some Google searches to see if anyone has instructions for blind persons. The PDF user's guide is all right but some of the steps are shown in pictures. It is hard to know how much more to try to say without knowing your setup. If you bought it at an Apple Store, they are pretty good to answer questions as well, although this can vary. Best regards, Steve On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:07:52 -0500, Gary Wood wrote: Can someone tell me how to install it? I've never seen one of these things before, but what I've seen, it's pretty small. Someone told me that you plug it into HDMi of my cable box, and that's it's accessible using voiceover. I'm sorry that this may be offtopic, but I just want something for starters. I may get an IPhone in the near future. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV No, you do not need an iPhone to make an apple tv work. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: A Favour
Gary, You are correct, it is a Coby Tuner. Besides the antenna connection, the unit received had a power supply that generated so much AM interference that it was difficult to get an HD signal. I found another power supply to substitute and the problem was gone completely. The tuner itself is pretty good, though, and I am very happy with the audio performance. I also have a Teac HD radio that does have a 75 ohm connector, and it has a line out jack as well. I am thinking that it might be worth trying to pick another of those up and use it as a tuner. I am certain that we are discussing the same Sony tuner. I would be willing to pay something above list to get one, but not three times the list from a questionable seller. I should look around more, though. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On 25/07/2013, at 11:55 AM, Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, usually the CBS and Clear channel stations have good CD quality audio on HD 1 and 2 here in Pittsburgh. On KDKA HD 3 you get the CBs Radio Sports programming which doesn't sound any better than FM programming. I would guess that WCCO probably has the same setup. There is another local broadcast company called Steel City Media that broadcast on all 4 hd channels in Stereo. all of them sound like hd quality but the fourth channel is much weaker on both stations, so if we have windy days you have a lot of drop outs. I concur with you, A M HD isn't good at all. during the day KDKA A M was decent, but at night, the signal wasn't strong enough to hold it locked in. WTAE was weak enough that it is impossible to listen to it in the day time too. Since the a m uses the ajacent channels you can forget night time DX listening. I think you have a Coby from what you are describing, and I was tempted to buy one but never did. Try looking for a Sony HD-100 tuner. that should have a 75 ohm F connector that you want. I guess you will have to find it on EBay. I have a couple of Radiosoppy tabletop hd radios that you take the whip antenna off the back of the radio and there is the F connector for a rooftop antenna. they don't make the sets any more, so EBay might be the place to find them too. any more you have to get hd tuners incorporated in to stereo receivers like Pioneer, Demon or something like that. - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: A Favour Dane, I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could provide an example. However, I am not sure what such a sample will tell you. HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its quality. For example, on FM, the HD programming can be divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each program can vary. One of the Christian stations here in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels. One of our public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a lower bit-rate MP3. Some radio stations seem pretty good about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog program so the difference is just less noise. . From what I have read, DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk. In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good. A good HD signal on AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would sound pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth because of the HD signal. I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound quality was pretty good. HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so little to disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle. Another frustration of mine is that I can't find a good HD Tuner any more. I bought one from Amazon that listed for $99 but is now sold for $35 and it isn't bad, but it has a permanently connected wire antenna for FM with no obvious place to connect a ground. My system is in a basement and I have an outdoor FM antenna, but there is no simple way to connect a 75-ohm coxial cable to it. The HD table radios I have all have coxial cable connections so I never thought to check if the tuner had a 75-ohm connection. The wire antenna would be adequate above ground level. I have some electronic knowledge so I've experimented with making a connection to the 75-ohm cable available in the basement, but the connection is not very efficient. I saw a Sony tuner available used but it was at three or four times the original price, and there were some bad reviews associated with the seller
Re: A Favour
Hank, The Sony Tuner is no longer manufactured and hasn't been for a while. Therefore, you might have trouble finding it. I'll dig out the model of the Coby, but as I recall, there were two of them, a tuner, and a portable of some kind. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:19:35 -0700, hank smith, and seeing-eye dog iona wrote: all I am finding is a tuner for cars are u sure the sony hd is the correct model number? also what was the model of the coby one as well? Hank On 7/24/2013 9:10 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hmm, and I thought our DAB+ system was bad at times smile. I'm very sorry to hear that you seem to have a lack of choice when it comes to tuners etc. I'm outside the DAB+ receiving area of Melbourne in theory and I can still receive DAB+ on all my sets here though the Yamaha Tuner I wrote about last week handles DAB+ signals better than any other DAB+ capable device I have here and I have around a dozen of those. Someone told me that Sony made a very Hot HD tuner and perhaps this is the one you refer to in your message below? If they're still available then they're worth grabbing, not so much for the HD content but they're very good for DXing work. On 25/07/2013, at 11:55 AM, Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, usually the CBS and Clear channel stations have good CD quality audio on HD 1 and 2 here in Pittsburgh. On KDKA HD 3 you get the CBs Radio Sports programming which doesn't sound any better than FM programming. I would guess that WCCO probably has the same setup. There is another local broadcast company called Steel City Media that broadcast on all 4 hd channels in Stereo. all of them sound like hd quality but the fourth channel is much weaker on both stations, so if we have windy days you have a lot of drop outs. I concur with you, A M HD isn't good at all. during the day KDKA A M was decent, but at night, the signal wasn't strong enough to hold it locked in. WTAE was weak enough that it is impossible to listen to it in the day time too. Since the a m uses the ajacent channels you can forget night time DX listening. I think you have a Coby from what you are describing, and I was tempted to buy one but never did. Try looking for a Sony HD-100 tuner. that should have a 75 ohm F connector that you want. I guess you will have to find it on EBay. I have a couple of Radiosoppy tabletop hd radios that you take the whip antenna off the back of the radio and there is the F connector for a rooftop antenna. they don't make the sets any more, so EBay might be the place to find them too. any more you have to get hd tuners incorporated in to stereo receivers like Pioneer, Demon or something like that. - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: A Favour Dane, I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could provide an example. However, I am not sure what such a sample will tell you. HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its quality. For example, on FM, the HD programming can be divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each program can vary. One of the Christian stations here in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels. One of our public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a lower bit-rate MP3. Some radio stations seem pretty good about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog program so the difference is just less noise. . From what I have read, DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk. In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good. A good HD signal on AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would sound pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth because of the HD signal. I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound quality was pretty good. HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so little to disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle. Another frustration of mine is that I can't find a good HD Tuner any more. I bought one from Amazon that listed for $99 but is now sold for $35 and it isn't bad, but it has a permanently connected wire antenna for FM with no obvious place to connect a ground. My system is in a basement and I have an outdoor FM antenna, but there is no simple way to connect a 75-ohm coxial cable to it. The HD table radios I have all have coxial cable connections so I never thought to check if the tuner had a 75
Re: C Crane pocket radio
What can you say about the radio's sensitivity and selectivity? I bought another of their radios that was some cheaper and was a little disappointed in the performance given that it was advertised as being particularly sensitive at the time. I was not so disappointed as to return it, though, as it sounds nice and is convenient. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:43:55 -0700, Grant E. Metcalf wrote: I bought one of the C Crane pocket radios and am satisfied with its performance. The price was $59 US plus shipping and California sales tax. It has lots of buttons which are easily identified. the top button on the right side of the radio selects AM, FM, and the weather band. The on/off button, volume wheel and earphone jack are on the very top. On the face of the radio you will find 2 vertical buttons which move up and down the dial. There are 5 buttons you can use to pre-select your preferred frequencies. Once you have located a station you hold down one of the 5 buttons for 2 seconds until you hear a beep and then repeat the process for the next station you want. There are more buttons and functions which I still don't understand and/or need at the moment. The sound is acceptable to my old ears. There is a 60 day return policy if you decide you do not want this radio. Hope this is helpful. - Grant Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc. Website: http://bartimaeus.us/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: C Crane pocket radio
Dane, I think the one I bought was a little Sony that was on sale, AM, FM, and Weather with no speaker. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 03:08:22 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote: Which one did you buy? On 28/07/2013, at 3:05 AM, Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com wrote: What can you say about the radio's sensitivity and selectivity? I bought another of their radios that was some cheaper and was a little disappointed in the performance given that it was advertised as being particularly sensitive at the time. I was not so disappointed as to return it, though, as it sounds nice and is convenient. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:43:55 -0700, Grant E. Metcalf wrote: I bought one of the C Crane pocket radios and am satisfied with its performance. The price was $59 US plus shipping and California sales tax. It has lots of buttons which are easily identified. the top button on the right side of the radio selects AM, FM, and the weather band. The on/off button, volume wheel and earphone jack are on the very top. On the face of the radio you will find 2 vertical buttons which move up and down the dial. There are 5 buttons you can use to pre-select your preferred frequencies. Once you have located a station you hold down one of the 5 buttons for 2 seconds until you hear a beep and then repeat the process for the next station you want. There are more buttons and functions which I still don't understand and/or need at the moment. The sound is acceptable to my old ears. There is a 60 day return policy if you decide you do not want this radio. Hope this is helpful. - Grant Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc. Website: http://bartimaeus.us/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: A Favour
Dane, The HD range on FM signals here isn't too bad. In general, where I have been frustrated with the sound, it has not been the fault of HD, but how it was implemented at the particular station. If you are still interested in samples, let me know and I can try to come up with something. Bestregards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:10:40 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hmm, and I thought our DAB+ system was bad at times smile. I'm very sorry to hear that you seem to have a lack of choice when it comes to tuners etc. I'm outside the DAB+ receiving area of Melbourne in theory and I can still receive DAB+ on all my sets here though the Yamaha Tuner I wrote about last week handles DAB+ signals better than any other DAB+ capable device I have here and I have around a dozen of those. Someone told me that Sony made a very Hot HD tuner and perhaps this is the one you refer to in your message below? If they're still available then they're worth grabbing, not so much for the HD content but they're very good for DXing work. On 25/07/2013, at 11:55 AM, Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net wrote: Steve, usually the CBS and Clear channel stations have good CD quality audio on HD 1 and 2 here in Pittsburgh. On KDKA HD 3 you get the CBs Radio Sports programming which doesn't sound any better than FM programming. I would guess that WCCO probably has the same setup. There is another local broadcast company called Steel City Media that broadcast on all 4 hd channels in Stereo. all of them sound like hd quality but the fourth channel is much weaker on both stations, so if we have windy days you have a lot of drop outs. I concur with you, A M HD isn't good at all. during the day KDKA A M was decent, but at night, the signal wasn't strong enough to hold it locked in. WTAE was weak enough that it is impossible to listen to it in the day time too. Since the a m uses the ajacent channels you can forget night time DX listening. I think you have a Coby from what you are describing, and I was tempted to buy one but never did. Try looking for a Sony HD-100 tuner. that should have a 75 ohm F connector that you want. I guess you will have to find it on EBay. I have a couple of Radiosoppy tabletop hd radios that you take the whip antenna off the back of the radio and there is the F connector for a rooftop antenna. they don't make the sets any more, so EBay might be the place to find them too. any more you have to get hd tuners incorporated in to stereo receivers like Pioneer, Demon or something like that. - Original Message - From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: A Favour Dane, I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could provide an example. However, I am not sure what such a sample will tell you. HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its quality. For example, on FM, the HD programming can be divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each program can vary. One of the Christian stations here in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels. One of our public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a lower bit-rate MP3. Some radio stations seem pretty good about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog program so the difference is just less noise. . From what I have read, DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk. In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good. A good HD signal on AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would sound pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth because of the HD signal. I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound quality was pretty good. HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so little to disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle. Another frustration of mine is that I can't find a good HD Tuner any more. I bought one from Amazon that listed for $99 but is now sold for $35 and it isn't bad, but it has a permanently connected wire antenna for FM with no obvious place to connect a ground. My system is in a basement and I have an outdoor FM antenna, but there is no simple way to connect a 75-ohm coxial cable to it. The HD table radios I have all have coxial cable connections so I never thought to check if the tuner had a 75-ohm connection. The wire antenna would be adequate above ground level. I have some electronic knowledge so I've experimented with making
Re: A Favour
Dane, I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could provide an example. However, I am not sure what such a sample will tell you. HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its quality. For example, on FM, the HD programming can be divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each program can vary. One of the Christian stations here in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels. One of our public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a lower bit-rate MP3. Some radio stations seem pretty good about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog program so the difference is just less noise. . From what I have read, DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk. In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good. A good HD signal on AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would sound pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth because of the HD signal. I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound quality was pretty good. HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so little to disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle. Another frustration of mine is that I can't find a good HD Tuner any more. I bought one from Amazon that listed for $99 but is now sold for $35 and it isn't bad, but it has a permanently connected wire antenna for FM with no obvious place to connect a ground. My system is in a basement and I have an outdoor FM antenna, but there is no simple way to connect a 75-ohm coxial cable to it. The HD table radios I have all have coxial cable connections so I never thought to check if the tuner had a 75-ohm connection. The wire antenna would be adequate above ground level. I have some electronic knowledge so I've experimented with making a connection to the 75-ohm cable available in the basement, but the connection is not very efficient. I saw a Sony tuner available used but it was at three or four times the original price, and there were some bad reviews associated with the seller. Finally, here in the Twin Cities in Minnesota, apparently HD is not a part of many of our stations' backup transmitters. A number of our bigger stations are on a couple of tall transmission towers, and when they do maintenance on the towers, the analog signal is transmitted from a backup site but no HD. This has been a somewhat common occurrence this summer for some reason. Even with all this, I like HD because the sound can be good, and it opens up the potential for additional programming on our FM bands. After reading all of this, let me know what sort of samples you might like or if you would simply like a good and a poor example. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:48:52 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi! Does anyone out there have a HD Tuner? I'm looking for some samples of HD radio so if someone could provide then I'd be most appreciative. I can return the favour perhaps by providing some samples of DAB+. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Expanders
I am looking for a way to expand some audio files that have been compressed. I realize that to do a good job I need to get the time constants to be close to the inverse of what is used when the files are compressed, but I am having some trouble finding something that will expand. I have Sound Forge 10, and it is capable of expanding, but the values I can control seem to only compress unless I am missing something. It appears that I need to manipulate a graph to get it to expand and have had no success in doing that although I am able to use Window-Eyes to know where I am on the graph. Does anyone have any ideas? Best regards, Steve Jacobson To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
Don, There are at least two things that can happen with noise reduction. First, some noise reduction algorithms do cause a loss of high frequencies. The noise reduction in Sound Forge actually has an option to add highs back, but one could do the same with an equalizer. However, hiss, itself, can make a recording sound brighter. I have heard examples where the sound spectrum with and without hiss was made the same, and the one with hiss sounded brighter. As you say, sound is very subjective in some ways, but the ear can be fooled as well. More than once I have thought I had found a tremendous set of parameters to get rid of noise on a recording, only to find there were artifacts of noise reduction that were very apparent to me when I listened the next day. It is a challenge. Best regards, Steve Jacobson to On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:43:25 -0800, Donald L. Roberts wrote: I do not claim to be knowledgeable regarding noise reduction. However, most of the time I have dealt with old recordings which have been subjected to noise reduction software, there are almost no highs whatsoever. I am thinking of a lot of big band and vocal recordings made on 78s during the 30s and 40s, and yes I know that the modulating frequencies were seldom more than 5000 cycles. But I have heard a number of those recordings on the original vinyl and later heard those same recordings after going through noise reduction procedures, and the resulting sound is so bland that I would much prefer the originals, complete with hiss and a few pops. As stated earlier, I haven't played with this stuff much, so I am not bashing. I am just suggesting that good sound is an extremely subjective thing. Don Roberts On 2/9/2013 12:25 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi, the noise remover in Audacity is far better. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Curtis Delzer Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 5:15 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition auto noise capture in sound forge is great, and then the trick is to get it to lower the defaults to more than one of the saved configurations to more than 12.5 DB. You can totally get rid of cassette noise, for example, at about -40 DB or so, any more than that and it starts to make the typical NR swishy sounds which are not desirable. At 08:19 AM 12/04/12, you wrote: In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction. However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction is just as good but one needs to play with it some. For example, the Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes, and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content. I didn't feel I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think you can do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in if you experiment with settings.. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote: Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has been too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I kept waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to download Reaper today and give it a try. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much. Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit, and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition Hi Sam, My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has
Re: GoldWave stereo
To add more to this good suggestion, make sure that the plugs are completely inserted. Some of the symptoms you describe can occur if a 1/8-inch plug is not quite completely inserted. Sometimes the plugs on cables fit tighter than those on headphones, for example. Also make sure the cable is working correctly. Make sure you didn't get a cable that converts stereo to mono, for example. I bought on by accident once. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 03:11:49 -0700, Robert Doc Wright wrote: One important thing you haven't mentioned, is your cable from your cassette deck a stereo cable? *** character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you. web page http://www.wrighthere.net - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: GoldWave stereo Hi. I am unable to transfer a stereo recording in stereo to my computer with GoldWave. Here's what I've achieved so far and where I'm stuck. 1. I determined that the microphone jack on my Dell Dimension 4700 is mono and that in order to record in stereo, I need to use the line-in jack. 2. Activating the line-in jack on my XP was an adventure, but between sounds and Audio in the control panel and Entertainment in Accessories, I got it unmuted and the volume raised. 3. Now I can transfer a recording from my cassette player, but it is still in mono, with a bias toward the left speaker. I've confirmed with headphones that the cassette was recorded is in good, balanced stereo. 4. I thought I might have found the solution in GoldWave at something called Stereo Mixer in, I believe, configuration. this item is set at 60, whatever that means, and it was unchecked. However, I checked it. The next recording stayed mono. 5. I went to the GoldWave manual to read about stereo mix and found only one short paragraph, which reads as follows: Some devices, such as Stereo Mix or What You Hear are disabled in Windows by default and have to be enabled manually. Choose the Configure button, select the Recording tab, right-click anywhere in the list and select Show Disabled Devices, then right-click on the device in the list and choose Enable. This sounds simple enough, but I'm unable to get to this area or, if I've succeeded, right-clicking does nothing. Can anyone pull me out of this purgatory? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction. However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction is just as good but one needs to play with it some. For example, the Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes, and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content. I didn't feel I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think you can do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in if you experiment with settings.. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote: Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has been too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I kept waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to download Reaper today and give it a try. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much. Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit, and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition Hi Sam, My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:). For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc. Tapin-radio coordinator URL: http://www.tapinradio.com/ Facebook: http://facebook.com/tapinradio Twitter: http://twitter.com/tapin_radio Skype: tapinradio - Puvodní zpráva - Od: Samuel Wilkins Komu: PC Audio Discussion List Odesláno: 2. prosince 2012 16:21 Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition Hello everyone, I am considering migrating to Adobe Audition. However, I was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader. I am using Window-Eyes as my reader. Thank you. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Informace od ESET NOD32 Antivirus, verze databaze 6966 (20120314) __ Tuto zpravu proveril ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.cz To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
Samyuel, I am a Window-Eyes user and I used Adobe Audition in its early days and CoolEdit before then which Adobe purchased. The current version of Audition conveys information to screen readers using other methods that are not evident from the screen. Mostly, I think MSAA is used, although there could be some UI Automation. What this means is that if you just try to explore the screens with the mouse pointer, you are going to notice that some things that others see on the screen are just not there. GW Micro does have an Audition app that gets a lot of the information you need. When I tried that some time ago, it worked pretty well, but there were some gaps when dealing with certain plug-ins. I had switched to Sound Forge before these capabilities became available, though, so I didn't buy a full Audition version, and I have not tried it for a while. I would suggest that you ask on the GW-Info list, though, and I would also see if you can get a demo version and plan on really working the heck out of it for thirty days or so. I don't know if you can download a demo version or not. If you do try this, I for one would be very, very interested to hear what you find out. Also, if there are specific problems, Aaron Smith of GW Micro might be willing to see if something can be done with the app. While I am not unhappy with Sound Forge, I would consider moving back to Audition if it works reasonably. Good luck. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:21:31 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote: Hello everyone, I am considering migrating to Adobe Audition. However, I was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader. I am using Window-Eyes as my reader. Thank you. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
Your cautions are legitimate, but there were some changes that were intended to help screen readers between Adobe audition 2 and 3. I have not experimented enough to know where things are now, but if someone has a reason to want to use Audition, I really think it is worth trying the demo to see where things are now. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:32:23 +0100, Vítek wrote: Hi Sam, My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the most blind- friendly one is Sound Forge:). For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc. Tapin-radio coordinator URL: http://www.tapinradio.com/ Facebook: http://facebook.com/tapinradio Twitter: http://twitter.com/tapin_radio Skype: tapinradio - Puvodní zpráva - Od: Samuel Wilkins Komu: PC Audio Discussion List Odesláno: 2. prosince 2012 16:21 Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition Hello everyone, I am considering migrating to Adobe Audition. However, I was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader. I am using Window-Eyes as my reader. Thank you. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Informace od ESET NOD32 Antivirus, verze databaze 6966 (20120314) __ Tuto zpravu proveril ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.cz To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Accessible Impulse Response Converter
Samuel, I have seen some messages about this program on GW-Info. I think people were using it with Window-Eyes, but that there was some sort of problem but don't remember what it was or how serious it was. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:34:32 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote: Hello Rob, thank you for your response. How accessible is Reeper with Window-Eyes? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Rob Tabor Sent: 22 November 2012 14:20 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Accessible Impulse Response Converter Hello Samuel and list. In partial answer to your question there is a sound editor called Reaper which has several free VST (virtual instruments and effects) plugins available for download, convolution reverb being one of them. I will forewarn you, however, that Reaper is very sophisticated with a boatload of features and audio effects and has a rather steep learning curve. If you want to produce convolution reverb without using an audio editing package, I have no other solutions to suggest at this time. I wish you the best with your project. Best regards, Rob Tabor KS/USA -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:09 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Accessible Impulse Response Converter Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of an accessible programme that can convert wave files into impulse response files to use with sound files. I am studying impulse response files for making convolution reverb in university, and I am interested in making my own. Thank you. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: some questions about sound forge
Yes, you can select with Mark in and Mark out keys, the letters i and o on the keyboard. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:33:33 -0400, HHamit Campos wrote: The latest is 10. I'm not too sure of the build. Um, Audio Studio is what the cut down virsion is called, and I'm not sure about the selection thing. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:28 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: some questions about sound forge 1. What is the latest version of sound forge, and does it run with either window-eyes, jaws, or both? Are there scripts for both screen-readers? 2. Is there still a low-cost stripped-down version of sound forge? 3. Is there a way in sound forge to set a start and finish marker at the beginning and end of the selection you want to delete? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: RocketFish Sound Card 5.1 Recording
It is also possible that the mic jack also functions as the Line-in jack. This has probably already been checked, but one needs to check that line-in is checked and not muted in volume control as well. Some sound cards have a check box to increase mic gain, unchecking this or checking any attenuation check box could make the Mic jack work adequately instead of using Line-In. If using the microphone input, one needs to be careful not tu reduce the volume too much or one will pick up residual noise of the cassette player that is there when the gain is all the way down. There needs to be enough audio to cover that up as it can be pretty noticeable on some machines. Best regards, Seve Jacobson On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:56:36 -0400, Dave Trevino wrote: If you want to connect a cassette player to your computer, and your only success is through your microphone jac,, you might try dropping your mike gain to zero and gradually increasing it. If it distorts, back off the gain. Playing the cassette at low gain, or using an attenuated patch cord could also figure into the remedy. There will be a lot of trial and error, but you won't mess up anything, and you can always reset your microphone level if you want to do some talking. Staying a laugh ahead of life, Dave Trevino - Original Message - From: Morey Worthington mossback7...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: Re: RocketFish Sound Card 5.1 Recording I am a blind person, but can give you the following information. My wife, sighted, checked the sound card and there are 4 different icons on the jacks..1 pink which is the microphone, and 3 orange ones, the one closest to the michrophone is the one I have the speakers pluged into. In the properties of the recording devices there are 3 microphones listed and 2 line-ins listed. I have the microphone listed for the Rocketfish is set as default. As I said , I can record from the microphone. Was wondering if the Microphone jack and the line-in jack are the same. Think it could be, if I changed the default to the Rocketfish default, what might happen if I tried that?? Can I blow the thing up??..lol Thanks, Morey To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
