RE: Australian Pentax Market Penetration
I agree, although Photo Continental in Brisbane has a titanium finish Pentax zoom sitting on the shelf at the moment. Unfortunately, not many people working in camera stores seem to know much about the equipment they are selling. I have heard the base grade Canon being recommended over the Pentax MZ-50 on the basis that This is the brand that a lot of professionals use. And I have heard a salesperson lose a sale because a customer felt the cost of a telephoto lens put the equipment out of their reach, when a secondhand Pentax lens at $150 (Australian) sitting on the shelf would have made the choice for them and clinched the deal. Peter Jesser Brisbane, Australia From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Australian Pentax Market Penetration Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:40:50 +1000 It's hard to see how Pentax could fare well, when many dealers allocate far less shelf space to Pentax than Nikon or Canon, and when the only lens you see offered in the deal is a Sigma consumer zoom, with a couple of Sigma or Tamron zooms also shown alongside _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MF Sales (WAS: More P67II vs. 645n)
Bruce wrote: Any idea how fast the sales have dropped? Slow and steady or fairly rapid? It happened abruptly. These are the numbers from Norway but I believe its an international trend. The usual selling rate for MF cameras in Norway is 300 units/year; all brands combined. Last year 60 were sold; before the end of the year; the real number is probably slightly higher. Anyway, MF sales is reduced by 2/3 or more. Probably not that much in other markets but the trends are there. Around here, the 645 system has never been popular. The 67 outsells it by a considerable margin. I believe I've heard 10:1 but don't quote me on it since my memory is somewhat wonky. The reason MF is loosing sales is the uncertainty about digital. Expensive 35mm slr's suffers the same fate; a reduction in sales globally. Another problem MF faces more than 35mm is competition from the used market. Due to the slower upgrade rate of cameras and lenses many photographers choose a used camera or lens, which often is identical to the ones sold brand new, over a new lens/body. When comparing film 35mm to MF we can easily compare negative size. How about when comparing digital 35mm to MF? If the CCD and resulting image are larger, won't the cost skyrocket? Since the high end SLR's are currently in the $5K range (much of that CCD cost) wouldn't MF be priced beyond anyone other than full-time professional photographers? Currently yes. However, I expect chips to come down in price as volume increases. I believe its only a matter of time before digital will be similar to film in that bigger size means better quality. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax advert on British BBC TV
Last night the Finnish TV showed a document Naked States, photographer Spencer Tunick's one man's journey as he photographed naked people in public places. He seems to use Pentax 67 as well ;-) Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 400 789753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 2 413 * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
No Pentax digital SLR at PMA? (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
Mike wrote: Folks, I'm reasonably certain there's not going to be any digital SLR from Pentax at PMA. So those of you holding your breath, please release it before you turn a cool color. It's true that there are no official or unofficial data on a Pentax digital SLR at PMA or elsewhere. The Pentax organization has got no signals from Pentax about imminent release of a digital slr. However, there are anonymous posting an Japanese Pentax forums that Pentax will release a 3Mpix digital slr built around the MZ-S chassis. According to this rumor it will be released in March and cost 1200USD (presumably in Japan). Only time will tell if this information is credible or not... Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Australian Pentax Market Penetration
Thank God for my son in Hong Kong, otherwise I would not have been able to justify buying my recent acquisitions. Still one of the cheapest place to buy if you know where. :) regards, Alan Chan _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Did you see the price on this silly thing?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Collin Brendemuehl Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Did you see the price on this silly thing? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1326756497 What you can't sell on eBay! And I thought I was crazy for buying one for $89.00 JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Enlarger Up and Running
Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 4:19:34 PM, thomas wrote: tbc From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why does exposure supposedly change when filtering for VC papers and it doesn't change with VC head? Does it really change? Frantisek, It changes with the Saunders enlargers because they have ND filters that change as you change the filtration. tbc I think this should read, It (exposure) doesn't change with the Saunders (VCCE) enlargers because Please correct me if I am wrong, but, when changing from M to C filters (or which one is for VC paper), shouldn't the exposure for every grade be fairly constant, as I start somewhere at 0,90 and end at 90,0 ? (roughly. e.g. my head and agfa mc need slightly diff. filtr.). If cyan and magenta have same density, shouldn't this work? Or am I missing something ;-) ? Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA? (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 10:53:03 +0100 Pål Audun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, there are anonymous posting an Japanese Pentax forums that Pentax will release a 3Mpix digital slr built around the MZ-S chassis. According to this rumor it will be released in March and cost 1200USD (presumably in Japan). Only time will tell if this information is credible or not... Whats the point of releasing a 3Mp SLR, when 6 is the accepted norm and now striving for 8-12? Well, I suppose you have to start somewhere... kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: MZ-S Questions
Hello Bruce Adaptall 2 is simply the latest version of the mount. KA contacts were only introduced on AD2 mounts, it is true to say. AD1 mount does not work with AD2 lens, however AD2 mount works with either type (the lenses being more durable than the mount). Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Did you see the price on this silly thing?
In a message dated 31/01/02 03:33:44 GMT Standard Time, Jim writes: If you were a collector of Pentax stuff, maybe you would bid on the thing James is a collector. I'm sure I will see it in the flesh? fiberglass? cardboard? Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax Repair Expert in UK
Hi All, Just finished talking to a nice guy in England, he repairs all makes of cameras but is a confessed Pentax Man. He can repair/cla. All Pentax models Including LX, M Series old screwmounts. Winders/drives and flashes Lenses He is used by many camera shops in London and knows his stuff Bill Wright 24 Melbourne Court Welwyn Garden City Hertfordshire AL8 6LL T: +44 1707 325726 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography Startup
Picked up an interesting magazine last week called PICTURE, 'for the emerging professional photographer'. The Nov/Dec 2001 issue was dedicated to self-promotion, and had some interesting ideas. It comes out six times a year, and is published in NYC. Pat White Don't dream it, be it! Dr. Frank N. Furter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: English English speakers--OT
So, it means I'm living in a bedsit! I'm a bedsitter!! I moved to live out of my parent's house last october (one day before I was stolen. You remember). Since I earn just some coins, my only option was a bedsit. But it is way cool !!! I made good friends, made cool parties, hosted cute girls I met in Patagonia when they came to Bs As. Imagine doing it in my small parent's appartment. The good news is it seems I'm moving to another bedsit in March. It's bigger, cost the same, but has a jacuzzi and the more important: an installed darkroom, with ventilation and water supply!!! It seems just as paradise Regards Albano, proud bedsitter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Some e-marketing thoughts
Even if you set that opening bid pretty well, what you'll see is usually only one bid at the very end of the auction, because nobody wants to bid early on it and be aced out by somebody bidding a buck more in the last seconds. I follow lots of stuff on eBay and have seen that happen a lot. Worst case, of course, is when nobody wants to be first bidder, so nobody bids. That happens too. There seems to be a lot of psychology involved in any kind of auction, especially the online types like eBay. Len --- -Original Message- From: John Glover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Some e-marketing thoughts I always feel if you want to set a reserve on an item, then use that as your opening bid. Granted, if the price is set too high, you will get no bids, but then I suppose that means you are overvaluing the item, based upon what the current market will bear. I'll sometimes bid on an item with a reserve price if it really interests me, but it is not an auction I'll typically follow closely, for the reasons you cite. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography Startup
some pros are making money as local reps for a baseball-card company. Take shots of local LittleLeaguers, have them made into Baseball Cards, sell them, make a mint . . . Somehow, mint just doesn't seem the right word...g --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography Startup
find a niche and work to fill it. Glamour? Local sports? Horse shows? Dog shows? Cat shows? (Mike Johnston, bite your tongue! People pay more to have portraits taken of their cat or dog than they would to have portraits of their kids.) Ouch! And I thought baby-wrangling was bad...if you take pictures of dogs, the hard part is getting them to stay away from you. (They all want to be friendly and come over to you.) If you take pictures of cats, the hard part is that CAT PICTURES SUer, no, it's keeping the cat from wandering off, of course g --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Australian Pentax Market Penetration
Things are different here in Canada. When I bought my MZ-S in Edmonton, the salesman said, Would you like a 31 Limited with that?. Here in Victoria, Kerrisdale Camera call themselves Pentax specialists, and they have a big transparency of an MZ-S on their lighted storefront sign, while Lens Shutter has a picture of an MZ-5n on a lightbox in their window. There's even a Victoria Pentax Club, although it's not very large. Could this be Pentaxia? Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Some e-marketing thoughts
Ken, In any auction, live or online, you are always bidding against the seller. He can always bid on his own item to keep from selling it for less than he wants to get. Even on eBay. As long as he is willing to pay his percentage to eBay for the transaction. Some guys have more than one USERID just for that purpose. They'll start out with a no reserve auction, with a beginning bid set at $1.00 and watch very closely to see that the final price never ends lower than the price they want for the item. There isn't anything illegal about doing that, as long as the auctioneer gets his percentage. In a live auction, the seller may be there bidding right along with everyone else on his own stuff. Nobody wants or needs to take a drubbing on his own stuff. The fact that some people do only attests to their lack of understanding of auctions. Len --- - Original Message - From: Ken Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Some e-marketing thoughts I, for one, usually don't bid on Reserve Auctions. That is an oxymoron to me. In an auction, the seller puts an item up for bid and a competition between bidders sets the price. It seems to me that you are bidding against the seller in a Reserve Auction and really have no idea if you will get the item or just waste your time. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography Startup
Basic principle seems to be to find a niche and become know for quality product. Seriously, Stan, this is excellent advice. Most photographers do exactly the opposite--and fail in business. They don't want to specialize. They want to do everything. Two observations: 1. In many cases, even people who are good at one thing and suck at everything else don't want to specialize. They don't want to limit themselves. Sometimes their interests and tastes make them gravitate to one specialty but they're not even aware of it--it takes someone else analyzing their work to even make them realize what their own specialty is! 2. In other cases, photographers who build a successful specialty undermine themselves by trying to break out of it. They don't WANT to become typecast. However, one of the best things you can do to succeed as a photographer is EXACTLY what you're advising. Find a niche and become THE photographer in that niche. We have to remember how photography is bought--if people have a job, they want the person who's BEST for that job, not some ratty generalist who says he (or she) can do anything. If you're hiring a wedding photographer, you want someone who specializes in weddings, loves doing weddings, and has a great track record of happy customers. Same with commercial photography. The person doing the hiring wants to look good for their own boss or client. At the very least, if the shoot turns to sh*t, they want to be able to say, well, I hired the best person for the job. If you want to succeed at photography, pick a specialty for which there is a market and specialize. Rant mode off, --Mike * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Mike Johnston's online articles about photography: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/m-johnston.htm http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/opinion/mikejohnston/index.htm http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/opinion/html/sharpness.htm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE:
Mark Erickson wrote: p.s., It was below freezing in the SF Bay area this morning Br and William Robb replied: -34ºC this morning in southern Saskatchewan. I think it was -46º up in the Wollaston Lakes region (that would be northern Saskatchewan). HAR!! +14ºC (58ºF) in Rochester on Sunday, and +13ºC (56ºF) on Monday! ;-P Of course, it was snowing wet ice granules by yesterday morning. Ain't Great Lakes weather grand? Bill Peifer sunny Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Pro Fuji
You can make a pretty nice 11 X 14 with a 3.25MP camera. I used a Canon D30 for a long weekend and was pleasantly surprised by the 8 X 10 and 11 X 14 prints that I could make using it. This was setting it at the lowest sharpness, lowest contrast, and lowest color saturation settings and then letting PhotoShop take care of the sharpening, if needed. I didn't run into the need to adjust colors or contrast at all, though that's a matter of taste, anyway. I hope Pentax releases at least a 4MP SLR body, because I can make prints larger than 11 X 14 with my printer, but a $1200, 3.25MP body would probably be enough to get me to buy it, if I could use all of my Pentax lenses with it. Especially if it worked as well, or better than the D30. The only thing that would make me hesitate would be the thought that, shortly after a 3.25MP body is released, a 4 or 5MP body might quickly follow. Len --- -Original Message- From: John Glover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Pro Fuji I own a Fuji 6900z, which uses the second generation Super CCD. The 6900z had a standard 3.1Mp CCD and give an interpolated image of just a bit over 6 Mp. However, I tend not to shoot in the 6Mp mode as for most of my shots, there is no real advantage in quality that I can see. I rarely make anything beyond an 8x10, so the 3Mp resolution is generally enough. The advantage I see to using the 6Mp mode comes in when you need to crop and enlarge a photo in Photoshop. I use Genuine Fractals and I've found the 6 Mp mode give GF plenty of data to work with when setting up a cropped and enlarged shot. Beyond that, there is not much advantage to 6Mp...unless you want to brag about your megapixels!! Actually, most reviewers equate the resolution in the 6Mp mode to be equivalent to about 4 to 4.5 Mp in qualityso you guessttimataion of 8 Mp effective resolution is probably about on the mark. John PS -- One really nice thing I've found with Fuji's Super CCD is the colors are pretty darned good.most photos need very little color correction work and many times are very good straight out of the camera. That's nice if you want to print off a couple of quick shots from your media card at the local digital kiosk. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Z-1 dead battery film rewind problem
Isn't there a small keep alive battery within the Z-1? If so, it may be time to replace it. It is needed to keep the camera settings and memory functions active when the big battery is dead. If the keep alive battery is dead, and the big battery fails, the camera has no way of knowing where the film is and the only thing that you can do, in that case, is what you did. Len --- -Original Message- From: Richard Seaman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Z-1 dead battery film rewind problem folks, I had a nasty problem with my Z-1 a few weeks ago. It started to rewind and then, almost immediately, stopped and the low battery indication came on. I replaced the battery, but the camera refused to do anything, and I ended up having to open the back in the dark and manually rewind the film. Everything worked fine from then on. Any thoughts on why this happened or what I could have done about it, beside what I did do? thanks, Richard. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA=3 F (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
Kevin Waterson wrote: Pål wrote: However, there are anonymous posting an Japanese Pentax forums that Pentax will release a 3Mpix digital slr built around the MZ-S chassis. According to this rumor it will be released in March and cost 1200USD (presumably in Japan). Only time will tell if this information is credible or not... Whats the point of releasing a 3Mp SLR, when 6 is the accepted norm and now striving for 8-12? After the fiasco of the original MZ-Digital, Pentax realize they need to get something - ANYTHING - into the digital SLR market quickly to assure the public thet Pentax is going to remain a vialble system. If they don't people will start bailing out of the Pentax system in droves. I said last year that I thought 2002 would be pivotal and I'm even more convinced of that now. Olympus has killed off its OM line because it's incompatible with the lens system of their upcoming digital SLR. Contax looks set to get their N1-D on the market, even if it is late. Only Minolta and Pentax left out now and I'm sure both have cameras under development. Pentax is at a disadvantage because of running down a blind alley so long with the original MZ-Digital. Perhaps they had a less expensive digital SLR on the drawing boards all along but if not they've only been working on it since the MZ-Digital was cancelled in December. If that's the case it's *way* too early to expect anything at PMA. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Pro Fuji
Len Paris wrote: The only thing that would make me hesitate would be the thought that, shortly after a 3.25MP body is released, a 4 or 5MP body might quickly follow. Well, if you define quickly as being within a year you're going to be disappointed...whether you buy Pentax or any other brand. We're at the very beginning of the digital SLR era and the upgrade slope is going to be steep. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE:
Woke up one morning in Longlac Ontario ,winter of 94,temperature was -56 Celcius,no wind chill.I got out of the truck,set a stake on the pipe ditch line and got back into the truck.Now i can state i worked in -50 tempuratures. Man that was cold. (Python QuoteYou were lucky to have -56.We only had a handful of gravel)LOL Dave Begin Original Message From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:15:06 -0500 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Mark Erickson wrote: p.s., It was below freezing in the SF Bay area this morning Br and William Robb replied: -34ºC this morning in southern Saskatchewan. I think it was -46º up in the Wollaston Lakes region (that would be northern Saskatchewan). HAR!! +14ºC (58ºF) in Rochester on Sunday, and +13ºC (56ºF) on Monday! ;-P Of course, it was snowing wet ice granules by yesterday morning. Ain't Great Lakes weather grand? Bill Peifer sunny Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S: New, Now, and Nice
I have a great problem. I have to buy gear for about US$1000. That's not a problem, the fact that I won't be able to buy anything more in a long time (I'm going to be a father this spring :-) is. Ok, this is my one shot. What should I buy. How do I best put my money in gear to evolve myself as a photographer? Having thought more about this, I really think the best course of action would be to get an MZ-S body. The reason? Well, the smaller the amount of money, the more likely you'll be able to come up with it in the future. The larger the amount of money, the less likely you'll be able to see it in one pile again. Since you've GOT a grand, spend most of it on one thing. The MZ-S is new, now, and nice--something you can sink your $1000 into that will really be a pleasure to own. And, ownership of it will continue to be rewarding for years to come. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some e-marketing thoughts
=20?= .mil MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have no problem with what you advocate. The seller is protecting his interest and if he bids too high and wants too much you can dump it on him. As you say, he still has to pay the commission. Ebay is nothing compared to purebred cattle sales. I once say a quarter/interest in a bull sell for $161,000 and there was only one bidder after $90,000. That one bidder did not pay any more than he was willing to pay, however. On Thursday 31 January 2002 06:52 am, Paris, Leonard wrote: Ken, In any auction, live or online, you are always bidding against the seller. He can always bid on his own item to keep from selling it for less than he wants to get. Even on eBay. As long as he is willing to pay his percentage to eBay for the transaction. Some guys have more than one USERID just for that purpose. They'll start out with a no reserve auction, with a beginning bid set at $1.00 and watch very closely to see that the final price never ends lower than the price they want for the item. There isn't anything illegal about doing that, as long as the auctioneer gets his percentage. In a live auction, the seller may be there bidding right along with everyone else on his own stuff. Nobody wants or needs to take a drubbing on his own stuff. The fact that some people do only attests to their lack of understanding of auctions. Len - Original Message - From: Ken Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Some e-marketing thoughts I, for one, usually don't bid on Reserve Auctions. That is an oxymoron to me. In an auction, the seller puts an item up for bid and a competition between bidders sets the price. It seems to me that you are bidding against the seller in a Reserve Auction and really have no idea if you will get the item or just waste your time. -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Digi- SLRs
FinePix S2 Pro digital camera with 12-megapixel resolution developed (picture) Fuji Photo Film Co. announced on January 30 the development of a professional digital camera to feature the highest resolution of 12 megapixels, and SLR finder. Marketing date nor price were announced as yet. The sensor is a large-size (23mm x 15.5mm) Super CCD Honeycomb with 6.17 megapixels. Maximum resolution is improved to 4256 x 2848 pixels (12.12 megapixels. Sensitivity is ISO 100, 200, 400, 800 and 1600 (equivalent). The camera uses Nikon F mount and Nikkor AF lenses. The finder is SLR type . the monitor is 1.8-inch LCD. Light metering, autofocusing, exposure controls are virtually the same to a high grade 35mm AF SLR. Dimensions are 141.5mm (w) x 79.5mm (d) x 131mm (h), with 760g (body only). Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Enlarger Up and Running
In my prime as a darkroom worker I could make 100 8x10 prints, all from different negatives, in 2 hours. I presume you using a processor? When I was doing the home lab business, I could print 3 - 24 exposure rolls of film, all negatives metered, and contrast eyeballed, in an hour. This was 3x5 or 4x6 prints, but I was tray processing. I was never that fast with bigger prints, I was able to produce perhaps 20 8x10s per hour. Nope, hand processing in trays. BW prints, though. More recently my tendency is to take three or six sheets of newly developed film into the darkroom, rather casually make 1-8 workprints from each roll, process them in two or three batches, and not hurry particularly. I have a strange tendency to stay between 1-8 frames per roll. I hate not printing ANYTHING from a roll--because it usually means I haven't looked over the proof sheet carefully enough. But I also dislike printing too much from a single roll--it, in turn, usually means that I'm not being discriminating enough. Of course, that was in my last house. Here, I haven't finished building the darkroom yet--mainly because this time I'm building a deluxe one, just the way I've always wanted it. I'm taking my sweet time. And I have about 170 rolls of Tri-X awaiting development! What can I say, it's been a light shooting year. --Mike * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Mike Johnston's online articles about photography: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/m-johnston.htm http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/opinion/mikejohnston/index.htm http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/opinion/html/sharpness.htm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: English English speakers--OT
Bedsit = Bed/Sitting room. A type of one-roomed, (very) cheap apartment with a bed in one corner and a couple of chairs in the other. Maybe a kitchenette in the third. Toilet (Restroom to Americans) facilites are often shared. Think of a prison cell with bad wallpaper that you have to pay to live in. Bedsits feature prominently in When I were a lad... type conversations concerning college days. -- Kristian To anyone who speaks English English--can you please enlighten me as to what a bedsit is?? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Which enlarging lenses
Mike, Which enlarging lenses worked the best for you and TX? Just curious, Bob Hi Bob, I've always used Rodenstock enlarging lenses. Best lens I ever owned (till now) was an 80/4 Apo-Rodagon--sweet thing. I used it for everything from 35mm to 2 1/4 square. In recent years I've used a 50mm f/2.8 Rodenstock Apo-Rodagon-N. My 4x5 lens, when I had one, was a 150mm Schneider (also an excellent lens), but that's only because I got a really good deal on one (I'm not a 4x5 guy). Now I have a Carl Zeiss S-Orthoplanar. There were only 500 of these made, and when it was last available new in the Zeiss catalog it retailed for $3,000. Spectacular little lens. It's a 60mm f/4, BTW. I prefer Rodenstock view camera lenses, too. I really like the Apo-Sironar-S line. I do have a bit of brand loyalty to Rodenstock--I really think it's a cut above. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Photography Startup
Pat wrote: Picked up an interesting magazine last week called PICTURE do they have a web address in the magazine Pat? I'm interested in seeing a copy. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which enlarging lenses
Nice lens ... Mike Johnston wrote: In recent years I've used a 50mm f/2.8 Rodenstock Apo-Rodagon-N. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA=3 F (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
It was shelved in mid-october publicly. Which means they probably started on a backup a month or so before that, at least. Could well be ready for PMA. Perhaps the lack of formal announcment is because the camera is hardly ground breaking in the industry, and they are a bit embarrassed. If they dont show anything, that would be even worse because everyone would be saying 'where is the digital you had last year - now you have nothing!' -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 January 2002 13:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA=3 F (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...) Kevin Waterson wrote: Pål wrote: However, there are anonymous posting an Japanese Pentax forums that Pentax will release a 3Mpix digital slr built around the MZ-S chassis. According to this rumor it will be released in March and cost 1200USD (presumably in Japan). Only time will tell if this information is credible or not... Whats the point of releasing a 3Mp SLR, when 6 is the accepted norm and now striving for 8-12? After the fiasco of the original MZ-Digital, Pentax realize they need to get something - ANYTHING - into the digital SLR market quickly to assure the public thet Pentax is going to remain a vialble system. If they don't people will start bailing out of the Pentax system in droves. I said last year that I thought 2002 would be pivotal and I'm even more convinced of that now. Olympus has killed off its OM line because it's incompatible with the lens system of their upcoming digital SLR. Contax looks set to get their N1-D on the market, even if it is late. Only Minolta and Pentax left out now and I'm sure both have cameras under development. Pentax is at a disadvantage because of running down a blind alley so long with the original MZ-Digital. Perhaps they had a less expensive digital SLR on the drawing boards all along but if not they've only been working on it since the MZ-Digital was cancelled in December. If that's the case it's *way* too early to expect anything at PMA. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
question about the new ZX6
Hi, has anyone seen the new ZX6 already ? From the description in the magazines, it looks like a nice camera. Does it have the mechanical aperture-simulator, in other words can all old K-mount lenses still be used ? Does anyone have experience with this new 28-90 zoom that comes wityh the ZX6 ? Regards, John - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Z-1 dead battery film rewind problem
There is a rewind function on the pz-1p dial, where you can force it to rewind by going to it and spinning the rear dial. This probably would have worked. It has no memory so when you switched batteries, it doesn't know it was doing anything before then! At 04:47 AM 1/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:28:06 -0600 From: Richard Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Z-1 dead battery film rewind problem folks, I had a nasty problem with my Z-1 a few weeks ago. It started to rewind and then, almost immediately, stopped and the low battery indication came on. I replaced the battery, but the camera refused to do anything, and I ended up having to open the back in the dark and manually rewind the film. Everything worked fine from then on. Any thoughts on why this happened or what I could have done about it, beside what I did do? thanks, Richard. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA
If they dont show anything, that would be even worse because everyone would be saying 'where is the digital you had last year - now you have nothing!' It may be embarassing, but that's what's gonna happen. I hope they have *something* exciting to show at PMA to celebrate the 50th birthday of the Asahiflex, but it isn't going to be a digital SLR. They just haven't had time, even if development began before the MZ-Digital got cancelled. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: extremely belated January PUG remarks
Thank you for your comments. My boring comment related more to the fact that I have seen so many pictures of the Falls with carefully enhanced colour lighting, that the lighting when I was there seemed blah. (It was all white with occasional yellow or green.) It does seem odd to be calling something as magnificent as Niagara Falls, boring. Jackie Rainbow Bridge, Jackie Dowell This works for me. The snow adds a lot to this photo, it wouldn't have as much impact without it, and the dead tree would probably just be an eyesore without the ice. I personally don't find having the tree and the bridge as dual focus points in the shot a problem. Your comments about the falls being boring colourwise reminds me of the reactions of my non-photographic American workmates who all liked the shots of the American Falls lit up by a rainbow of coloured spotlights, better than any of the other shots. Personally, I thought enhancing the Falls in that way was very, very tacky. I know that's not necessarily what you were talking about, but the comment just brought that memory back. Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Animals or Kida?
In a message dated 1/31/02 9:21:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: Photography Startup People pay more to have portraits taken of their cat or dog than they would to have portraits of their kids.) Maybe because the animal shows them more affection and loyalty. Can't think of a kid who waits for you to come home, daily. Had a dog for 14 years, kid for 21. Ah, those 14 years were wonderful. Had to put the dog down; law forbids doing same to kid. Burt - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: English English speakers--OT
A dump. :-) On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:00:01 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what would someone who speaks Texas English call it? To anyone who speaks English English--can you please enlighten me as to what a bedsit is?? TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA=3 F (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
It may well be not too early to expect anything... Like Rob was saying they may have been working on it since way before December. But also dont discount the fact that they wouldn't be designing the camera from scratch. It seems likely that it would be a conversion of the MZ-D design to use an alternative CCD at a lower resolution. Most of the design being the same or very similar to the MZ-D. This is pure speculation, but it seems to me that it could serve several purposes, such as getting back into the digital SLR market at the same time as recouping development costs from the MZ-D project. We shouldn't forget that it seems the MZ-S was designed to be used as the basis for a digital too, so the design challenges of creating digital SLR's from this chassis should be greatly reduced. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA=3 F (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Rob Brigham wrote: because everyone would be saying 'where is the digital you had last year - now you have nothing!' Am I the only person who'd be happy with a low end digital SLR that at least TOOK my K mount lenses? I'm not planning on using digital for anything or even everything, but digital sure is convienent. And fun. I still break out my Casio QV-10a, with its gigantic 320x240 pixel pictures, and I enjoy it immensely. I'd LOVE to have a CHEAP digital body that accepted my lenses. It wouldn't have to be anything special, just to knock around with, like all the other digital PS cameras out tehre. I can't imagine I'm the only one with these ideas, as well. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Australian Pentax Market Penetration
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Alan Chan wrote: Thank God for my son in Hong Kong, otherwise I would not have been able to justify buying my recent acquisitions. Still one of the cheapest place to buy if you know where. :) ...and a very expensive place if you don't know where to go... dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net To err is human, to repent, divine, to persist, devilish. -- Benjamin Franklin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Why Pentax ? WARNING: long message alert
Why do you choose or stay in Pentax ? I got interested in photography seriously in 1980. I considered a Leica R3 but, although I could afford it, I knew I couldn't afford additional lenses. I ended up buying a Contax 139, which I used all the way through photo school (I have a BFA in photography from the Corcoran in Washington, D.C.). I still like Contax. It's the brand that really gets to me. And even though they do now make a nearly perfect camera--the Aria--they still don't, and will never, make the two lenses I most want--a 35mm f/2 and an 85mm f/2. I switched to Nikon when I joined a professional studio in 1988. All three of the other photographers shot Nikon. Between them, they had 30 lenses from 15mm to 500mm, 8 bodies, and all sorts of accessories. If I wanted to share--and, even more importantly, to let them share my stuff--I had to shoot Nikon too. I ended up getting an F4 and 3 8008s before I was done. When I quit the studio I bought a Leica M6 as a way of reclaiming my amateur status, which I was eager to do. Then, when my son was born and I became, very suddenly, a single parent of an infant, I sold the Leica in case I needed the money. My consolation prize was an Olympus OM-4T and a bunch of lenses. I used that camera for four years. All through these years I used a lot of other cameras because of my work for photography magazines. Most of those cameras didn't stick around. I really didn't get into Pentax until just a few years ago, when I was ISO the perfect 50mm lens. For some reason, I found that most 35mm lenses were good enough for me--that is, that I liked some better than others but I really could be happy with any of them. The opposite turned out to be the case with 50mm lenses. I couldn't really find one I liked. All were sharp, generally speaking, but many of them had different characters and varying properties. Finally, I became acquainted with John O'Connell (JCO) on the Internet, and he loaned me a Spotmatic so I could try the 50/1.4 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar. I've now tried virtually all Leica 50s, Olympuses, Konicas, Zeisses, Canons and Nikons, and all version of the Pentax 50/1.4 except the F, and I still think the 50/1.4 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar is the best 50mm I know of. My favorite, anyway. By now I've tried many different Pentax bodies and lenses, but as you can see from the above I'm not a longtime or diehard Pentaxian. I'm more like a nomad camera junkie who's turned an obsession into something moderately functional by writing articles about it. s All through my journey, I've taken black-and-white 35mm pictures. Whatever the camera, I've gotten good shots with everything. Although I tend to look at my photographic hobby in terms of different cameras and lenses, most of the pictures can be seen together seamlessly. *I* might see differences, but viewers seldom do. Recently, I've gotten my first digicam. Also, I recently enabled myself to buy an ES II. I got a chrome one in *really* nice condition. I really like it--starting with the premise that I want to shoot TX with the 50mm f/1.4 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar, the ES II seems to be about the most convenient way to do it for me. The big question for me is whether to continue my 22 year archive of 35mm BW negs, or to make the jump across the Digital Divide. I go both ways. Right now I'm happy with the ES II, continuing to build my darkroom, and excited about the idea of staying with what I've loved for so long. Then again, I can't afford a really nice digicam right now. What will happen when I can? Remains to be seen, I guess. In the meantime, I'm a happy screw-head. Sorry for the long self-indulgent post... --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA? (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...),
Mick wrote: It may well be not too early to expect anything... Like Rob was saying they may have been working on it since way before December. But also dont discount the fact that they wouldn't be designing the camera from scratch. It seems likely that it would be a conversion of the MZ-D design to use an alternative CCD at a lower resolution. Most of the design being the same or very similar to the MZ-D. This is in line with what Pentax stated in the MZ-D cancel press release. Here it's contents is freely translated from swedish: Pentax have decided to cancel further development of the [MZ-D shown at Photokina] and will instead concentrate on developing a new and competitive digital slr. Based on the experience and knowledge from developing the prototype [MZ-D], a new series of competitive models (thats right; modelS) that comply to market demands are now being developed. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Costa Rica photos
The stink bug photo is especially good. Maris - Original Message - From: Richard Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:08 PM Subject: Costa Rica photos | folks, | | I got back from Costa Rica a couple of weeks ago, and have nearly | finished cataloguing the 75 rolls of film I shot there! If anyone's | interested in looking at some of the early results, check here: | | http://www.richard-seaman.com/SiteHistory.html | | Thanks again to those PDMLers who helped me out with some Z-1 hiccups | while I was down there! | | Richard. | | home page: www.richard-seaman.com | | | _ | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Costa Rica photos
Cool pics. Looks like you had a lot of fun.. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] folks, I got back from Costa Rica a couple of weeks ago, and have nearly finished cataloguing the 75 rolls of film I shot there! If anyone's interested in looking at some of the early results, check here: http://www.richard-seaman.com/SiteHistory.html Thanks again to those PDMLers who helped me out with some Z-1 hiccups while I was down there! Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA? (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
Yeah. :( Let's just bitch about them getting something out the door for right now...we can gripe about its shortcomings after it clears that first hurdle. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whats the point of releasing a 3Mp SLR, when 6 is the accepted norm and now striving for 8-12? Well, I suppose you have to start somewhere... kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SMC 135 f2.5
It's a beauty...one of my favorites! Norm (enabling) Robert Woerner wrote: Someone please buy this lens before I do. www.keh.com has a K mount SMC 135 f2.5 for $172.00. Isn't this a beauty of a lens? I'm already pushing the limit with my better half over a recent purchase. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: which one to choose?
Francis, Comparing these two bodies is quite a task. I used to own 2 PZ-1p's and used them extensively. I now own 2 MZ-S's so feel I might be able to do the comparison justice. On paper, the PZ-1p looks formidable. It has a large number of features and high end specifications. Remember though, that a Canon Rebel also looks good on paper. The MZ-S is a departure from the PZ-1p style and perhaps a coming home to the Pentax style. It is built more precise and rugged than the PZ-1p and feels very much that way - more solid and rigid. It is also smaller and easier to hold for small to medium hands. The PZ-1p uses dials to change settings, much like the Canon bodies and the MZ-S is much more like using a Super Program or ZX-5n. You really owe it to yourself to try both if you can find them, to see what you like. PZ-1p pluses over MZ-S: Frame Rate (4.3 vs. 2.5) Max Flash Synch(1/250 vs. 1/180) Max shutter speed (1/8000 vs 1/6000) Price ($480 vs. $800) MZ-S pluses over PZ-1p Build quality (metal vs. plastic) High speed flash synch (up to 1/6000) using AF360FGZ flash Wireless flash using AF360FG Faster upgraded Autofocus (6 sensor vs. 1 sensor) Data imprinting Vertical grip - includes ability to use AA's Hopefully this gives you some food for thought. Neither camera is bad, just different. You might prefer on over the other. There are some on the list who might be able to give some more comparisons. Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. Bruce Dayton Thursday, January 31, 2002, 7:11:17 AM, you wrote: Fdcg Hello to all, Fdcg I was able to save up about $500 towards purchasing a new camera body and Fdcg possibly a prime lens. My two choices (even though one of them is Fdcg financially out of reach right now) are the PZ-1P and the MZ-S. Fdcg If you were in my situation, would you go out today and buy the PZ-1P or Fdcg wait until you can get more funds (about 3 months) to buy the MZ-S? Fdcg I've also been reading publications comparing the two cameras. Why did Fdcg pentax build the PZ-1P with a faster maximum shutter speed than the MZ-S? Fdcg Also faster flash-sync, 4-fps vs. 2-fps. Fdcg What are each cameras advantages and drawbacks? Fdcg Thank you to all. Hope to hear from you. Fdcg Francis M. Alviar - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some e-marketing thoughts
How do they split the steaks? G Norm Ken Archer wrote: snip I once say a quarter/interest in a bull sell for $161,000 snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Why digital SLR's are so expensive....
Compared to point-shoot and pro-sumer digicams, pro-level digital SLR's are expensive for the following reasons: 1) Big, high-quality imaging arrays 2) Small shutter lag 3) Really fast shot-to-shot processing 4) Lots of buffer memory The Nikon D1 family, Canon EOS-1D and D30, and Kodak pro-level digital SLR's cost between $3000 and at least $6000. The cost of the Pentax 6MP digital was high not only because of the expensive imaging array, but also because of the costly electronics required to achieve 3) and 4). Further, I'll bet that Pentax realized that the pro market consists largely of people who already have lots invested in their lens system (probably Nikon or Canon) and are reluctant to change brands. Consider now the true Pentax digital SLR market. It's us! Photo enthusiasts who appreciate fine equipment but do not have to shoot 24 consecutive images of John Ashcroft or Michael Jordan in 5 seconds. I'll bet that many of us would be happy with a camera that is more like the Olympus E10 and E20. These cameras have 1) and 2), lack 3) and 4), and cost less than $2000. My ideal Pentax digital SLR has a 4 MPixel imaging array, small shutter lag, and K-mount compatibility. Kind of like an Olympus E10 that takes K-mount lenses (with the groovy MZ-S operator interface, of course) --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spottie Questions (Enablement Needed)
Since you won't be using open aperture metering with an M42 camera except the Spotmatic F, and you'd like an MX, why not just use an MX with the adapter for screw mount lenses? Christopher Lillja wrote: Well, what I guess what I really want is an MX with an M42 lens mount. What the next best thing? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA? (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
Whats the point of releasing a 3Mp SLR, when 6 is the accepted norm and now striving for 8-12? Well, I suppose you have to start somewhere... kevin 2 mp digicams outsell 3 mps, and 3 mps outsell 4 mps. And actually, it's the implementation that matters. The more pixels, the higher the incidence of hot or stuck pixels and noise. Furthermore, the larger the file sizes, the longer it takes to download into the buffer and the fewer shots the buffer can hold and the fewer shots fit on any given size SM or CF card and so forth More pixels doesn't always mean better. The 3 mp Canon D30 beats the crap out of the 5 mp Nikon Coolpix 5000 for image quality. (Of course, the D60 is coming) Number of pixels is an easy-to-understand measure for most consumers, like horsepower or top speed. Americans love excess, no matter what it is, and no matter how contrary to good sense it might be (I mean, why are Extra Strength pain relievers appealing, when you can just take two of the normal strength ones and get more medicine than is in one Extra Strength tablet? It makes no sense. Why is a car with a 165 top speed better than one with a 155 to speed if you'll never drive over 100?). And while it would be foolish for me to say X number of megapixels is enough--nobody can know where it's all going to shake out--it's at least true that an infinitely increasing number of pixels isn't infinitely desirable. And so far, the 5 mp cameras haven't exactly set the world on fire for image quality. In many cases they're no better than the 4 mp cameras and in some cases they're WORSE. Assuming these rumors about the MZ-Dn g are true at all, Pentax is FAR smarter to release a 3 mp camera for $1200 than a 6 mp camera for $7000. It's all about balance --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ebay bidding
In any auction, live or online, you are always bidding against the seller. He can always bid on his own item to keep from selling it for less than he wants to get. Even on eBay. As long as he is willing to pay his percentage to eBay for the transaction. Some guys have more than one USERID just for that purpose. They'll start out with a no reserve auction, with a beginning bid set at $1.00 and watch very closely to see that the final price never ends lower than the price they want for the item. There isn't anything illegal about doing that, as long as the auctioneer gets his percentage. In a live auction, the seller may be there bidding right along with everyone else on his own stuff. Nobody wants or needs to take a drubbing on his own stuff. The fact that some people do only attests to their lack of understanding of auctions. This is called 'shill' bidding and is strictly illegal in ebay's rules and they have thrown people out for it. They have an investigative team looking for shill bidding, and there was one case last year when they turned the whole matter over to authorities and criminal fraud charges were filed. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: which one to choose?
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On paper, the PZ-1p looks formidable. It has a large number of features and high end specifications. Remember though, that a Canon Rebel also looks good on paper. Ouch! tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spottie Questions (Enablement Needed)
Christopher wrote: I'm thinking about getting a real M42 body, and of course a nice Spottie would probably fit the bill nicely. Here's the thing: which Pentax M42 camera has the best view finder/focusing aids? Look for an old H1 ... just a center micro cirrcle and a slightly different microprism ring around that - against a plain matte screen. No split image gizmos, meter or any other sissy-fy'd modern crap !8^);^) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: English English speakers--OT
Congrats Tim! Light her up! A religous experience for me too. Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cool colors: blue, purple...
C'mon Mike! Folks, I'm reasonably certain there's not going to be any digital SLR from Pentax at PMA. So those of you holding your breath, please release it before you turn a cool color. You can't whack me with that, without some supporting evidence! Dish me some dirt, baby. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Did you see the price on this silly thing?
Man, That jumbo spotmatic almost costs as much as a real one that works! hopefully no one thought this one would work. Illinois Bill Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1326756497 What you can't sell on eBay! * Get over it. Dr. Laura - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA=3 F (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
--- gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Rob Brigham wrote: because everyone would be saying 'where is the digital you had last year - now you have nothing!' Am I the only person who'd be happy with a low end digital SLR that at least TOOK my K mount lenses? NO! I would also love to have a camera like this. Like I've said in an earlier post, three MP is more than enough for the editorial and spot news stuff that I do (don't think I've ever run a photo more than about 5x7in). For sports I'll still have my good ole pz1p. As long as it takes all my lenses and my flashes I will be a happy camper. Actually if it is truly going to only be about $1,200us I will be an ~extremely~ happy camper. Nick Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax advert on British BBC TV
On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 04:02 AM, Chris Stoddart wrote: Notice that he worked with the 67ii handheld virtually throughout? All those people who say you must have a tripod, well this guy doesn't! I rarely use a tripod. I've seen a touch of shake in some of my images...at 20x30. You need a tripod with the 67 if a) you are exceptionally jittery b) you are using long lenses with it, like the 600 f4 c) you aren't holding the camera properly d) you need a tripod with your 35mm Anyone who says otherwise has one of the above problems, or has never used the camera. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: degees of tempertature and some pentax content
On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 09:38 PM, William Robb wrote: The LX LED's conked out shortly after the k1000 meter crapped out, but the auto exposure kept working. Finally the batteries gave out at about an hour and three quarters, and the shutter would only work at the higher speeds. I gave up at two and a half hours and went home. The LX shutter never did freeze up. The mirror on my LX became sluggish after about 45 minutes at -30 C, but the meter and shutter worked fine until we got tired of the wind and went home. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Who needs a tripod? (was:Pentax advert on British BBC TV)
Or perhaps is shooting in low light and/or with small apertures and long (1/15 and longer) exposures. 90% of my 35mm photography is done with a tripod. I have a big heavy bogen and I find it indispensable. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need a tripod with the 67 if a) you are exceptionally jittery b) you are using long lenses with it, like the 600 f4 c) you aren't holding the camera properly d) you need a tripod with your 35mm Anyone who says otherwise has one of the above problems, or has never used the camera. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA
Mike Johnston wrote: More pixels doesn't always mean better. The 3 mp Canon D30 beats the crap out of the 5 mp Nikon Coolpix 5000 for image quality. The D30 is actually quite a camera. I'd be quite happy if Pentax produced a camera as good as the D30--and if I could afford it. One sticking point for many photographers seems to be that the image sensor on most digital cameras is smaller than two frames of old movie stock. The full-frame CCD on the new Contax requires a whole new line of lenses; the redesign undoubtedly included more than adding autofocus, so the new lenses--unlike the excellent older lenses--would provide light paths that would work with the large CCD. I really doubt that our existing Pentax lenses will ever be useful on a full frame Pentax digital camera. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: which one to choose?
Honest opinion - is YOU dont see some feature the MZ-S has that you want/need that the PZ-1p doesn't, dont blow the extra money! Not sure if data-imprinting is worth that much extra! At 12:20 PM 1/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: which one to choose? Hello to all, I was able to save up about $500 towards purchasing a new camera body and possibly a prime lens. My two choices (even though one of them is financially out of reach right now) are the PZ-1P and the MZ-S. If you were in my situation, would you go out today and buy the PZ-1P or wait until you can get more funds (about 3 months) to buy the MZ-S? I've also been reading publications comparing the two cameras. Why did pentax build the PZ-1P with a faster maximum shutter speed than the MZ-S? Also faster flash-sync, 4-fps vs. 2-fps. What are each cameras advantages and drawbacks? Thank you to all. Hope to hear from you. Francis M. Alviar - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Daylight fill flash with MZ-S and AF-360FGZ?
So I spent a bunch of time last night bonding with my AF-360FGZ. Cool flash and a major step up from my AF-280T! Everyone's feedback yesterday helped me get in tune with the flash user interface. It's not as bad as I first thought, and the wireless capability is really cool! Of course I have another question I'm really interested in using the AF-360FGZ as a daylight fill flash for landscape work (i.e., to emphasize foreground elements in the shade). One way to do this (I think) is to: 1) Set the aperture and exposure manually 2) Turn on the flash and dial in -1.5 exposure compensation 3) Take the picture Now, if I want to bracket, then it looks like I need to do the following (say, to underexpose by 1 stop): 1) Leave on-camera exposure compensation at 0 2) Set the aperture and exposure manually to underexpose by 1 stop 3) Turn on the flash and dial in -2.5 exposure compensation 4) Take the picture Could I also do the following? 1) Set on-camera exposure compensation to -1 2) Set the aperture and exposure manually 3) Turn on the flash and dial in -1.5 exposure compensation 4) Take the picture Or in Step 3), should I also dial in -2.5? Hm Ultimately, what I'd really like to do is put the system into some kind of daylight fill mode. This (possibly mythical) mode would allow me to dial in -1.5 stops exposure compensation into the flash, turn it on, and forget about it. I could then shoot in aperture-priority mode, with or without on-camera exposure compensation. If I dial in -1 compensation on-camera, the main exposure would be under by one stop and the flash would be under by -1-1.5 = -2.5 stops. If I dial in +1 compensation on-camera, the main exposure would be over by one stop and the flash would be +1-1.5 = -0.5 stops. Can any of the 360FGZ gurus out there help me out? Thanks, --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
SV: Buying new gear, Help!!!
Thanks all for your help. I've finally made up my mind and put an order on a MZ-S with FA28-105 4-5.6 and BG10-grip. I got it for aprox. US$1100 in Sweden. Clive, I agree fully with your take it slow approach, unfortunately I have to spend everything at ones and in one place. Collin, mf does appeal to me. Not yet though. Mike, I read your post right after I made up my mind. You mirrored almost exactly my thoughts. Thank you for your confirmation. Bob, I think I can sneak in a film or two without my wife complaining all that much, an MZ-S on the other hand... One chanse only :-) I will hopefully be able to scan some of my images to show you all the outcome of this purchase. Once again, thank you! Petter Jarbo - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA? (WAS: Cool colors: blue, purple...)
On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 04:18 AM, Kevin Waterson wrote: Whats the point of releasing a 3Mp SLR, when 6 is the accepted norm and now striving for 8-12? I would imagine in order to offer a low-cost entry level digital SLR that mated with their existing lenses. The quoted $1200 potential street price seems quite low, but I haven't been pricing digital SLRs lately. What does something like a D30 go for? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why digital SLR's are so expensive....
Consider now the true Pentax digital SLR market. It's us! Photo enthusiasts who appreciate fine equipment but do not have to shoot 24 consecutive images of John Ashcroft or Michael Jordan in 5 seconds. I'll bet that many of us would be happy with a camera that is more like the Olympus E10 and E20. These cameras have 1) and 2), lack 3) and 4), and cost less than $2000. My ideal Pentax digital SLR has a 4 MPixel imaging array, small shutter lag, and K-mount compatibility. Kind of like an Olympus E10 that takes K-mount lenses (with the groovy MZ-S operator interface, of course) Mark, You've sold it to me in one! I will order one right now, with deposit, just gve me a delivery date! A Canon D30 with 'Pentax' written on the front, that takes K and K-AF lenses will be fine for starters. Go ahead, Pentax. Make my day! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Repair Expert in UK
Nice one, thanks very much Rob. Cotty Just finished talking to a nice guy in England, he repairs all makes of cameras but is a confessed Pentax Man. He can repair/cla. All Pentax models Including LX, M Series old screwmounts. Winders/drives and flashes Lenses He is used by many camera shops in London and knows his stuff Bill Wright 24 Melbourne Court Welwyn Garden City Hertfordshire AL8 6LL T: +44 1707 325726 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: English English speakers--OT
Home. Len --- On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:00:01 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what would someone who speaks Texas English call it? To anyone who speaks English English--can you please enlighten me as to what a bedsit is?? TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Who needs a tripod? (was:Pentax advert on British BBC TV)
On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 02:04 PM, Christian Skofteland wrote: Or perhaps is shooting in low light and/or with small apertures and long (1/15 and longer) exposures. 90% of my 35mm photography is done with a tripod. I have a big heavy bogen and I find it indispensable. Yes, and in these situations with the 67, a tripod is also needed. I'm just attacking the too-commonly held assumption that one cannot hand-hold the Pentax 67. It is as easy to hand-hold as a 35mm. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Why Pentax ? WARNING: long message alert
Hi, Contax don't have them in their lineup. It goes: 35/1.4 to 35/2.8 and 85/1.4 to nowhere, although there is a 100/2 (discontinued, and a lot bigger than eg the SMCP M 85/2). I agree with Mike about this. I have both the 35/1.4 and the 85/1.4, but they're both very big and it would sometimes be convenient to have slightly slower, but much smaller, lenses. This is one of the ways in which Leica Ms score heavily against SLRs. At least with the 35mm lens you get both small and fast. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, January 31, 2002, 3:56:42 PM, you wrote: Mike ... For as long as I've known you, which is what, almost two years, you've been wishing and hoping for those lenses. It shouldn't take two years to fine a good copy of each. Why don't you have one yet? Mike Johnston wrote: I still like Contax. It's the brand that really gets to me. And even though they do now make a nearly perfect camera--the Aria--they still don't, and will never, make the two lenses I most want--a 35mm f/2 and an 85mm f/2. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: which one to choose?
So I guess that means that our PZ-1p's are no better than Canon Rebels because of how they look on paper. Right? I guess that means the Nikon N90s was even worse because the PZ-1p is a better performer than the N90s. There's a disconnect there somewhere. My opinion of the Canon Rebel is that it would make a great ashtray, if you take off the lens. We shouldn't be making these kind of comparisons. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which one to choose? Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On paper, the PZ-1p looks formidable. It has a large number of features and high end specifications. Remember though, that a Canon Rebel also looks good on paper. Ouch! tv - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: extremely belated January PUG remarks
Hi Richard... Thanks for your comments! This image is cropped up slightly from the original. Almost everyone has found this picture to be rather intimidating and scary rather than interesting, but I guess that's better than not feeling anything at all. t On 1/30/02 7:49 PM, Richard Seaman wrote: Black Dog, Timothy Sherburne The expression on this face doesn't just add to the shot, it is the shot! I like it very much (and I'm not an afficianado, etc, etc). Did you crop it from the original? I like the cropping, particularly the way the eye is nearly at the center of the frame, and so becomes the sole focus of the photo. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA
-- Original Message -- The full-frame CCD on the new Contax requires a whole new line of lenses; Nope. Uses the same lenses as the film N1. the redesign undoubtedly included more than adding autofocus, The autofocus redesign was needed to insure the regidity of the focusing mechanism in order to maintain proper alignment between the lens and the film plane. Or so Contax claimed. They were always very picky about this factor, though: They're the ones who made a camera (the RTS III) with a vacuum film pressure plate. so the new lenses--unlike the excellent older lenses--would provide light paths that would work with the large CCD. ?? Contax is able to use the same lenses with the digital and film versions of their SLR. The light path is the same: The light goes from the back of the lens to the front of the film/CCD. I really doubt that our existing Pentax lenses will ever be useful on a full frame Pentax digital camera. This has already been done with the MZ-Digital in prototype form. The issues were heat generation/dissipation, competetive pricing in a rapidly changing marketplace and availability of the Philips CCD. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Pentax ? WARNING: long message alert
Yeah ... but Mike's been wanting the Pentax lenses for quite a while. At one point he was after my M85/2.0 ... Of course, you get no disagreement wrt the leica glass. In fact, I'm toying with the idea of a 35/1.4 ... but that's after a scanner and a computer upgrade and some dental work, and car repairs, and home repairs, and a new refrigerator ... not necessarily in that order. But, back to the SLR glass for a moment. While the Contax 35/1.4 is big, as would a pentax 35/1.4 be, there are still times when it could come in handy. After all, the 85/1.4 is a mutha, and I often prefer the K85/1.8 as the best compromise between size and image quality, still there are times when it comes in handy. I'd go for a Pentax 35/1.4 in a heartbeat - after a scanner and a computer upgrade and some dental work, and car repairs, and home repairs, and a new refrigerator ... and a Leica 35/1.4 g Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, Contax don't have them in their lineup. It goes: 35/1.4 to 35/2.8 and 85/1.4 to nowhere, although there is a 100/2 (discontinued, and a lot bigger than eg the SMCP M 85/2). I agree with Mike about this. I have both the 35/1.4 and the 85/1.4, but they're both very big and it would sometimes be convenient to have slightly slower, but much smaller, lenses. This is one of the ways in which Leica Ms score heavily against SLRs. At least with the 35mm lens you get both small and fast. Mike ... For as long as I've known you, which is what, almost two years, you've been wishing and hoping for those lenses. It shouldn't take two years to fine a good copy of each. Why don't you have one yet? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA
... I really doubt that our existing Pentax lenses will ever be useful on a full frame Pentax digital camera. Why? What would prevent these lenses from being used on a full frame digital camera? Alexander Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Z-1 question: built in and dedicated flash
Richard Seaman wrote: folks, Can a Z-1's built-in flash be used simultaneously with a 500FTZ mounted on the hotshoe? My Z-1 (nb: not a PZ-1 or PZ-1p) doesn't want to release the shutter when I attempt this. Yes, it can. You can even use contrast control flash with that setup. If it doesn't fire, check the contacts of the hot shoe, and also check a Pentax function (i don't remember the number, perhaps it is function 9) which prevents the RTF from firing if the lens is smaller than 35 mm. Good luck. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ME-F 35-70 F2.8 AF on ebay
ME-F 35-70 F2.8 AF on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1327461304 __ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: English English speakers--OT
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: Re: English English speakers--OT Congrats Tim! Light her up! Cotty, I suppose recognizing those lines betrays my age. Old enough to appreciate the Moody Blues but young enough to remember them... or anything... whoever it was we were talking about. Ahhh-hmmm-lessee... trade the stogie for a Guinness? Next time I visit Her Majesty's soil... or, actually, that would be the first time... well, sometime then. ? Tim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA
... I really doubt that our existing Pentax lenses will ever be useful on a full frame Pentax digital camera. Why? What would prevent these lenses from being used on a full frame digital camera? Yes indeed, ~please~ tell us why. (Inquiring minds want to know.) ~I~ certainly hope that your pessimistic statement is wrong - ~I~ (and many others here on the PDML) have a sizeable investment in Pentax glass that I/we have been expecting to be able to eventually put to use on a full-frame 35mm format dSLR. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ME-F 35-70 F2.8 AF on ebay
ME-F 35-70 F2.8 AF on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1327461304 ...but the lens doesn't work. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ME-F 35-70 F2.8 AF on ebay
what's the betting that they tried it on a body other than an ME-F to decide that it didn't work? Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photography Startup
Mick, I don't see a website listed, but PICTURE's e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You might find a copy at Chapters. It's a glossy magazine, 74 pages, with some useful articles. Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ME-F 35-70 F2.8 AF on ebay
My thoughts exactly, from the sounds of it he tried it on a regular AF body expecting it to AF. --- Mick Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what's the betting that they tried it on a body other than an ME-F to decide that it didn't work? Regards, /\/\ick... - __ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Enlarger Up and Running
- Original Message - From: Mike Johnston Subject: Re: New Enlarger Up and Running Of course, that was in my last house. Here, I haven't finished building the darkroom yet--mainly because this time I'm building a deluxe one, just the way I've always wanted it. I'm taking my sweet time. And I have about 170 rolls of Tri-X awaiting development! With luck, we are doing a home renovation this year, adding a second story to the old bungalow, and possibly adding a 12 foot or so extension. She who must be obeyed has indicated that I can have the entire rumpus room (what is a rumpus?) to convert into a darkroom. I will have about 12x24 feet of space at my disposal, if I so desire. This means I can actually have a film processing area separate from my printing area. I am quite excited about this. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Who needs a tripod? (was:Pentax advert on British BBC TV)
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: Who needs a tripod? (was:Pentax advert on British BBC TV) Yes, and in these situations with the 67, a tripod is also needed. I'm just attacking the too-commonly held assumption that one cannot hand-hold the Pentax 67. It is as easy to hand-hold as a 35mm. Personally, I find the 6x7 easier to handhold than a 35mm. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Spottie Enablement
Since you won't be using open aperture metering with an M42 camera except the Spotmatic F, and you'd like an MX, why not just use an MX with the adapter for screw mount lenses? Hi Shel, I may do just that. (Get an MX!) But really, I'm more interested in auto-diaphram action with M42 lenses than any sort of metering. You don't get that with the M42/K adapter. Stop-down metering would be fine. Like I said, I can live without any TTL metering at all if the trade-off will get me a high quality finder and reliable mechanics in a moderate size body. Christopher Lillja Publications Coordinator The Pennington School www.pennington.org - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Enlarger Up and Running
From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] tbc I think this should read, It (exposure) doesn't change with the Saunders (VCCE) enlargers because Please correct me if I am wrong, but, when changing from M to C filters (or which one is for VC paper), shouldn't the exposure for every grade be fairly constant, as I start somewhere at 0,90 and end at 90,0 ? (roughly. e.g. my head and agfa mc need slightly diff. filtr.). If cyan and magenta have same density, shouldn't this work? Or am I missing something ;-) ? It's magenta and yellow. I don't know if the filters have the same density, but I don't think that's the normal procedure anyway (if I understand what you're saying). Generally, at least when I use one, you start at a given guess for contrast. If you need more or less, you just subtract or add units. If it's a dichro head this addition or subtraction of filtration will change the exposure by an amount that is generally unknown. If you're using a VCCE head, the change will have no effect on exposure. Does this make any sense? tv -- Thomas Van Veen Photography 301-758-3085 www.bigdayphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Looking for P50 manual
I've sent it to you in pdf format... Jim - Original Message - From: Ivan Imhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:38 AM Subject: Looking for P50 manual Hello, I have just bought a P50. Most of the functions are clear and obvious but some of theme I couldn't find out... Could anybody help me where can I find a P50 manual? Preferably for free of charges and electronic format (HTML, PDF, etc.)... :) Thanks! Ivan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Darkroom exp. meters
Hi, After moved to dichro VC-BW printing with a colour head, I finally think about getting some simple exp meter for the darkroom. Can you please give me some hints on the technique? And also for a good cheap meter - I just saw a Jobo Comparator for sale used, and a similar one is the Ilford. Are they any good? Thanks! Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: extremely belated January PUG remarks
Thanks for the comments. No, it wasn't hazy actually, but the sunlight coming from the back coloured the scene. I had to wait for the surfer to come into the frame together with the sun, so there was quite some timing involved. All other shots made of this surfer show him standing on the board, however they looked a bit less attractive, the sail was to straight up, and the sun was somewhat higher. A little later it was all over, the sun was gone and so was the beauty of the moment. I had to crop the picture to get the framing I wanted, I didn't had my 1.7 teleconverter at the time of the shot yet. Frits Wüthrich Richard Seaman wrote: Sunset Surfer, Frits Wüthrich A very satisfying shot to my way of thinking. If he'd actually been on his board then it might have been perfect! I'm amazed that the light from the sun matches the rest of the shot so closely, is that because it was hazy? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Australian Pentax Market Penetration
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:39:45 +1000 John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should also say thank you to Dave for pointing me in the direction of the (seemingly) only serious Pentax dealer in Hong Kong! Which is? Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG Gallery...
What is the deal with the PUG Gallery? How are images submitted? Who may submit images? I there a set topic? etc etc Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Spottie Questions (Enablement Needed)
Christopher, The late screw mount Pentax cameras generally had the best viewfinders. That includes the ESII, Spotmatic F, and even the Spotmatic II. If you happen to have SMC lenses, you may wish to consider the ESII (automatic) or Spotmatic F, although the Spotmatic II will work just as well but without automation or open-aperture metering (you'd be stopping down). The factory offered a range of optional screens. I have split image and plain matte screens in a couple of mine. The microprism is OK for some things, as are the other two for various applications. No one screen is perfect for everything. The combined split with microprism found in some cameras is a nice nod in that direction but it was not a catalog offering for the Spotmatic cameras. Recent eBay evidence suggests that screens can still be fitted to these cameras for affordable prices so that may be an option. As for deciding between the three cameras suggested above? Personal preference. I think this enters into opinion. I don't know if there will be a lot of dispute on this point but the Spotmatic II is probably the least complex and most reliable. The Spotmatic F comes next in that category, just for the meter system being more complex, less reliable and somewhat ill designed (it is ON if the lens cap is removed. The ESII (when you find a good one, which isn't too hard, but not guaranteed) is a great camera and can be trusted to make good automatic exposures with judicious use, and has the added benefits of open-aperture metering and shutter speed displayed in the viewfinder. I think that is probably enough from me as now the disputes will begin! Just my opinion. ppro http://whitemetal.com/pentax/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher Lillja Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Spottie Questions (Enablement Needed) As I have been building my Pentax system I have found some screw mount lenses to be great value for the money. I generally use them on a beat up ME with a M42/KM adapter. I'm thinking about getting a real M42 body, and of course a nice Spottie would probably fit the bill nicely. Here's the thing: which Pentax M42 camera has the best view finder/focusing aids? I've read all the major pages on the topic and little is mentioned about the various finders. I would happily trade TTL metering for a really good finder or perhaps a really small (ME like) chassis... I have a K1000 and I find the little tiny microprisim dot in the middle of the ground glass not much fun to use. I love the finder on the ME, and I could live with something in between those two. I'm happy with the viewfinder brightness of both cameras, BTW. Now remain calm please, I have also looked at information on many M42 cameras, some (gulp) non-Pentax. If anyone has some suggestions along these lines, feel free to answer me off-list. Well, what I guess what I really want is an MX with an M42 lens mount. What the next best thing? Christopher Lillja Publications Coordinator The Pennington School www.pennington.org - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spottie Questions (Enablement Needed)
Here's the thing: which Pentax M42 camera has the best view finder/focusing aids? I've read all the major pages on the topic and little is mentioned about the various finders. I would happily trade TTL metering for a really good finder or perhaps a really small (ME like) chassis... I've had an SP, SP500, SPII, F, and now ESII, and I find the SPII and ESII easiest to focus. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spottie Questions (Enablement Needed)
Hi- None of the Spotmatics have particularly wonderful finders in my opinion. I have an F, a 1000, and an original. I love 'em anyhow. You may want to take a look at Fujica ST701 and ST801 bodies. I haven't had my hands on either for many years, but owned both in the late seventies- used mainly with SMC Tak lenses. It seems to me that their finders were brighter than Pentax, and they were pretty solid mechanically speaking. The ST801 in particular is interesting because its meter technology was very advanced for the time. It used a silicon blue cell with an LED readout something like the MX. The ST701 was around for quite a while and I think evolved over the years, so there may be variations in finder brightness depending on when manufactured. Fuji also made the ST901, their answer to the ES, with a wildly innovative meter readout for the day- digitial numerical readout of shutter speed. Described as a gimmick that would never go anywhere by a contemporaneous Consumer Reports review. Nice chunk of gadgetry, but aperture priority only on auto and no meter on manual. Can't guess about reliablility. I owned one of those as well and enjoyed it. Good luck! - Original Message - From: Christopher Lillja [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 31, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: Spottie Questions (Enablement Needed) As I have been building my Pentax system I have found some screw mount lenses to be great value for the money. I generally use them on a beat up ME with a M42/KM adapter. I'm thinking about getting a real M42 body, and of course a nice Spottie would probably fit the bill nicely. Here's the thing: which Pentax M42 camera has the best view finder/focusing aids? I've read all the major pages on the topic and little is mentioned about the various finders. I would happily trade TTL metering for a really good finder or perhaps a really small (ME like) chassis... I have a K1000 and I find the little tiny microprisim dot in the middle of the ground glass not much fun to use. I love the finder on the ME, and I could live with something in between those two. I'm happy with the viewfinder brightness of both cameras, BTW. Now remain calm please, I have also looked at information on many M42 cameras, some (gulp) non-Pentax. If anyone has some suggestions along these lines, feel free to answer me off-list. Well, what I guess what I really want is an MX with an M42 lens mount. What the next best thing? Christopher Lillja Publications Coordinator The Pennington School www.pennington.org - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Z-1 dead battery film rewind problem
Rich, I've got a similar concern with a PZ1P. It is intermittent and has been back to Pentax Colorado three times. They have advised that they can find nothing wrong. I've sent them the body after I've removed the film. The condition reappeared last week on a shoot - at about the 13th frame the film wouldn't advance and I couldn't get the film to rewind - the symbol for a rewound roll was blinking. The battery was fine, no blinking symbol to replace. This time I'm sending the body to them with the film in place in the body, hoping it will help them to diagnosis the concern. I'm in the Auto Industry and intermittent concerns are the hardest to diagnosis. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Richard Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:28 PM Subject: Z-1 dead battery film rewind problem folks, I had a nasty problem with my Z-1 a few weeks ago. It started to rewind and then, almost immediately, stopped and the low battery indication came on. I replaced the battery, but the camera refused to do anything, and I ended up having to open the back in the dark and manually rewind the film. Everything worked fine from then on. Any thoughts on why this happened or what I could have done about it, beside what I did do? thanks, Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
