Flash questions

2002-07-31 Thread Sveta Alex Shurygin

Did anybody try or used Vivitar 730AF flash for Pentax?

The spec claims lots of features for very little money, but is unclear
regarding Pentax model.

Also, it seems to have 1/16 power mode. I tried to figure out, how this can be
used? It looks like many f-stops (4?) below the meter reading, so it can
hardly be used for fill-flash. Or am I wrong?

In general, how important are these power settings (1/2, 1/4, ) on
high-end flashes? Could they be used for flash exposure compensation, or they
have diferent purpose?

Thanks
Alex
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Re[2]: OT: Writings on The Wall

2002-07-31 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Bob Walkden wrote:

 you might like to remind yourself that not everybody on the list is from
 the USA. There was another wall for a little while, in Berlin, which some
 people still remember.
  Bob  

Bob, you are missing one more important wall. 
The Great Wall of China, one of the seven wonders of the World.
Ayash.
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Re: Re[2]: ZX-L

2002-07-31 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:

 I'm just a stupid Canuck, but I've never heard of the ZX-L, can anyone give
 me a link to it?  It's not on the Canadian Pentax site.
 
 Brad Dobo

Hi!
Please look for MZ-6 at Canadian Website. As far as, I can remember, it 
was there at the Canadian Pentax Site.
- Ayash.
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Re: Pentax 35-80 smcp-a f4-5.6 lens

2002-07-31 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee

 From: Mat Maessen
 Subject: Re: Pentax 35-80 smcp-a f4-5.6 lens

  For a school camera, I would definitely push him towards a
 50mm prime
  lens over the 35-80 zoom. I have this 35-80, as well as a
 couple of
  prime lences (A-series 50mm f1.7, and an M-series 50mm f2.0),
 and the
  primes are MUCH more versatile. You get a minimum of two stops
 more
  light w/ the prime lens.

I second Mat. 
Ayash.
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RE: Flash questions

2002-07-31 Thread J. C. O'Connell

 Did anybody try or used Vivitar 730AF flash for Pentax?
 
 The spec claims lots of features for very little money, but is unclear
 regarding Pentax model.
 
 Also, it seems to have 1/16 power mode. I tried to figure out, 
 how this can be
 used? It looks like many f-stops (4?) below the meter reading, so it can
 hardly be used for fill-flash. Or am I wrong?
 
 In general, how important are these power settings (1/2, 1/4, ) on
 high-end flashes? Could they be used for flash exposure 
 compensation, or they
 have diferent purpose?
 
 Thanks
 Alex
 
adjustable power manual flash is very useful for adjusting the 
ambient/fill ratio when doing daylight fill flash. For example
if you want a 1:1 ratio, choose a fstop/shutter speed for
ambient light and then adjust flash power manually until it gives
correct exposure with the fstop already in use.

also allows extreme closeup work while keeping the f-stop
managable with fast film.

third less used feature is the very low power setting
allows shortest possible flash duration which is desireable
if your trying to freeze extremely fast action of some sort.

JCO
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Re: 67II grip on 645n II

2002-07-31 Thread Christien Bunting

Yes that is what I was thinking of.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: 67II grip on 645n II


Christien wrote:

 Is it possible ?

No.

 Would really like to get a grip with the 645N II.


Why on Earth would you want to do that for? The 645 already has a grip. Du
you need two so that you can hold it with both hands?

Pål
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Re: OT: Walls Was RE: OT: Writings on The Wall

2002-07-31 Thread Jostein

Isn't there a whole street in NYC devoted to the subject?
:-)
Jostein
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 Great Wall of China, and Hadriens wall (found in Britain)
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Re: OT: Walls Was RE: OT: Writings on The Wall

2002-07-31 Thread Jostein

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From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Of course there's also the one that Simon  Garfunkel sung about...

And whoever sang Wallsing Matilda...
J.
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RE: My eBay happiness: Z-10 plus 2 lenses

2002-07-31 Thread Cotty

Sorry Lukasz - I misread the spelling :-)

Yes, it is his first SLR, and a 'serious' camera. You are absolutely 
right. Actually I think he enjoys it more for the noises it makes - focus 
whirr, confirmation bleep, exposure, wind on, etc. Trouble is, he keeps 
popping up everywhere and blasting em with a face full of flash! Probably 
explains why I got your name wrong - I can't see anything right now :-)

Cheers,

Cotty

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Re: Leaving the list

2002-07-31 Thread Mishka

Paul,
how about subscribe pentax-discuss-nomail (or something like that) as
a less radical alternative? you won't have that much mail, but will be
able to post if you feel like. 
in any event, good luck to you, it's been a pleasure. looking forward
to seeing your essays  :)

Mishka.

 From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky 
 Subject: Leaving the list 
 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:18:56 -0700 
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Pentax Functions for PZ1

2002-07-31 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

Does any one have some sort of documentation for the Pentax Functions for
the PZ1 that they could scan for me?. I just aquired one and have no idea
what half of them do :) My MZ-S came with a small folding card listing the
fuctions.

 How different are they from the ones on the PZ1-P? as i have downloaded
this manual from the pentax web site.

Thanks,
Paul
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RE: Leaving the list

2002-07-31 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk

C'mon Paul! You know you don't wanna do it...

:(

Lukasz

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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:38 AM
To: Pentax Discussion Group
Subject: Leaving the list


My wife and I have made a pact: She'll give up her crossword puzzles,
I'll give up the list. Truth be told, I was poising to leave anyway.
I'm finally content with the gear I have and no longer visit EBay. And I
really need to free up time to write the essays I claim to want to
write.

Feel free to write me off-list for collected comments on Pentax or
third-party K-mount or screwmount lenses, or photos (largely from EBay)
of compatible lenses, hoods, camera grips, eyepiece aids, and
teleconverters, as well as fixed-lens manual-focus rangefinders and
scale-focusing cameras from the 60s through 90s.

I've enjoyed this latest round of give and take. Who knows? I may come
groveling back.

I plan to pull the plug by Friday.


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Re: Pentax Functions for PZ1

2002-07-31 Thread Rfsindg

Paul,
Try Here for the front and back of the PZ-1 wallet card:
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1a.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1b.jpg
Also the PZ-1p at:
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1pa.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1pb.jpg
Regards,  Bob S.

In a message dated 7/31/02 6:27:05 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does any one have some sort of documentation for the Pentax Functions for
 the PZ1 that they could scan for me?. I just aquired one and have no idea
 what half of them do :) My MZ-S came with a small folding card listing the
 fuctions. 
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Re: Leaving the list

2002-07-31 Thread Steve Larson

Paul, Paul, Paul, how about moderation? 
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discussion Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: Leaving the list


 My wife and I have made a pact: She'll give up her crossword puzzles,
 I'll give up the list. Truth be told, I was poising to leave anyway.
 I'm finally content with the gear I have and no longer visit EBay. And I
 really need to free up time to write the essays I claim to want to
 write.
 
 Feel free to write me off-list for collected comments on Pentax or
 third-party K-mount or screwmount lenses, or photos (largely from EBay)
 of compatible lenses, hoods, camera grips, eyepiece aids, and
 teleconverters, as well as fixed-lens manual-focus rangefinders and
 scale-focusing cameras from the 60s through 90s.
 
 I've enjoyed this latest round of give and take. Who knows? I may come
 groveling back.
 
 I plan to pull the plug by Friday.
 
 
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RE: M50/1.4 fungus remedies?

2002-07-31 Thread Alex

Kristian,

It depends where the fungus is, and how much damage is done. If fungus is on
the front element, it can be removed with a partial disassembly. I had a
lens cleaned by a pro, and results are great.

Alex

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kristian Walsh
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: M50/1.4 fungus remedies?


Hi,

Firstly, thanks to all for the tips on the Leica. It turned out to have
a messed up shutter (1sec varied between 1 and 2 seconds, and above 125
the shutter didn't fully open). I'm waiting for a quote on a CLA before
I put my cash into it. Oh, and the lens had fungus.

Speaking of which, the shop had a lovely M50/1.4  (or maybe a K -- don't
know how to tell them apart, but it wasn't an A. Minimum focus was
0.48m, and there were 8 aperture blades - the casing felt like plastic
over metal). I had a quick try on their MZ-5n body and I was very
impressed.

I know these questions come up occasionally, so here are some answers to
look up in future:

- Auto-focus confirmation works (!!) - I was surprised at this, but I
suppose there's no reason why it wouldn't.
- The metering seems to work fine. I couldn't be entirely sure, but I
think spot and centre-weighted metering both work.
- The focus feel is fantastic ;-)

... so, why don't I have a nice 50/1.4 now? Well, it had not one but two
tiny fungal colonies.

Does anyone know how to get rid of these, or is the lens doomed forever?

--
Kristian

PS. The shop had actually received, and sold, a Contax N Digital, so
there must me some around somewhere. Price was €9500, but I think that
was with two zoom lenses. Can you imagine Pentax trying to get that kind
of money for a body?
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Re: OT: Walls Was RE: OT: Writings on The Wall

2002-07-31 Thread Stephen Moore

Walls for everybody. Get 'em at Wall Mart... 
grinning, ducking, and running...


Stephen
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RE: Pentax Functions for PZ1

2002-07-31 Thread MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1)

Paul,
I have some home made coopies of the PZ1p
function card made up and laminated.
Send my your mailing address and I'll
send one to you.
Any one else need on? Just let me know.

Mark

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Functions for PZ1


Paul,
Try Here for the front and back of the PZ-1 wallet card:
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1a.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1b.jpg
Also the PZ-1p at:
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1pa.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1pb.jpg
Regards,  Bob S.

In a message dated 7/31/02 6:27:05 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does any one have some sort of documentation for the Pentax Functions for
 the PZ1 that they could scan for me?. I just aquired one and have no idea
 what half of them do :) My MZ-S came with a small folding card listing the
 fuctions. 
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AF 360 FGZ AF assist question

2002-07-31 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

Hi!
Can users of AF 360 FGZ and MZ-S tell me if this flash provides wide AF
assist beam, i.e. covering all focusing points on MZ-S?

-- 
Pozdrowienia
Sylwek
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Re: Leaving the list

2002-07-31 Thread Bob Poe

Paul!  Cold turkry is not very wise...tapering off is
a better plan.
Best regards,
Bob
--- Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 My wife and I have made a pact: She'll give up her
 crossword puzzles,
 I'll give up the list. Truth be told, I was poising
 to leave anyway.
 I'm finally content with the gear I have and no
 longer visit EBay. And I
 really need to free up time to write the essays I
 claim to want to
 write.
 
 Feel free to write me off-list for collected
 comments on Pentax or
 third-party K-mount or screwmount lenses, or photos
 (largely from EBay)
 of compatible lenses, hoods, camera grips, eyepiece
 aids, and
 teleconverters, as well as fixed-lens manual-focus
 rangefinders and
 scale-focusing cameras from the 60s through 90s.
 
 I've enjoyed this latest round of give and take. Who
 knows? I may come
 groveling back.
 
 I plan to pull the plug by Friday.
 
 
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Re: Re[2]: ZX-L

2002-07-31 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

on 31.07.02 0:12, Lawrence Kwan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes!!  ZX-L/MZ-6 supports high speed sync, P-TTL, flash exposure
 compensation and wireless TTL flash in combination with AF360FGZ.
 So it has the same advanced flash system as MZ-S.
Exactly, with small exception: MZ-S can perform modelling flash wirelles
using illumination button, MZ-6 can not.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek
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RE: Pentax Functions for PZ1

2002-07-31 Thread MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1)

Do you like my spelling?

I don't have any coopies, but I do have copies.

Mark


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From: MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:59 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Pentax Functions for PZ1


Paul,
I have some home made coopies of the PZ1p
function card made up and laminated.
Send my your mailing address and I'll
send one to you.
Any one else need on? Just let me know.

Mark

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Functions for PZ1


Paul,
Try Here for the front and back of the PZ-1 wallet card:
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1a.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1b.jpg
Also the PZ-1p at:
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1pa.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/PZ-1pb.jpg
Regards,  Bob S.

In a message dated 7/31/02 6:27:05 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does any one have some sort of documentation for the Pentax Functions for
 the PZ1 that they could scan for me?. I just aquired one and have no idea
 what half of them do :) My MZ-S came with a small folding card listing the
 fuctions. 
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Re: OT: Writings on The Wall

2002-07-31 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Robert Harris wrote:

 William Robb wrote:
 
 
  Not surprised you got the wrong answer. Pink Floyd is far more
  meaningful to most people than the above mentioned wall (which I
  had only vaguely heard of, I might add).
  William Robb
 
 Speak for yourself, please.
 
 What is a Pink Floyd? Some sort of silly drink?

No, it is a rock band. :-)
Haven't you heard the name of Roger Waters?
-Ayash.
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Re: Sensia100 Pushed

2002-07-31 Thread dick graham

Scott, I stand corrected.  I don't get to pass go and pick up my $200, but 
must go back to Sunny 16 Rule clas 101. Thanks.

DG


At 07:29 AM 7/31/02 -0700, you wrote:
Dick,

Yes, sunny 16 recommends 1/125 and f/16 for direct sunlight, i.e. no clouds.
This is the same exposure as 1/250 f/11, what Fuji reccomends for regular
sunlight.  On snow, this is still the 'correct' exposure, but the snow will
be so bright that it will just be a solid mass of white, hence Fuji wisely
reccomends 1/250 f/16 for these conditions.


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From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: Sensia100 Pushed


  They are recommending 1/250 at f/16 on sand and snow, f/11 in regular
  sunshine, f/8 in weak sunshine, f/5.6, light clouds or haze, f/4 in cloudy
  or open shade conditions.  The sunny 16 rule recommends 1/125 with these
  conditions and apertures for 100 ISO film.
 
  DG
 
 
 
  At 03:02 PM 7/29/02 -0700, you wrote:
Last week I put in a thread about pushing Sensia 100.  I just threw
the
empty box of Sensia 100 away but did read the instructions inside
about
   the
Sunny 16 rule with this film.  Fuji recommends setting the shutter
   speed to
1/250 and follow their aperture guide, f/16 on sand or snow, f/11 in
sunshine etc.  In other words they are recommending a 1 stop push
right
   out
of the box?  By the way I did re-read the front of the box to make
sure I
hadn't purchased a box of 200 ISO, it was 100.
   
DG
  
  1/250 f/11 is the same exposure as 1/125 f/16 - i.e. your regular sunny
16
  rule.  I shoot a lot on snow, and you need to underexpose by at least one
  stop (from sunny 16) or all the hilights in the snow will be completely
  blown out.
  
  -Scott
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Vs: Beeping - was: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-31 Thread Raimo Korhonen

Nope - focus confirmation is single beep which I know well - and it supposedly does 
not occur after the shutter release.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

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Aihe: Re: Beeping - was: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Raimo Korhonen wrote:
 the manual: why does the thing sometimes beep repeatedly - after when
 I already have taken the picture?  All the best! Raimo Personal

Focus confirmation?
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Vs: Beeping - was: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-31 Thread Raimo Korhonen

Many, always. I do hope they are plus points.
All the best!
Raimo
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Aihe: RE: Beeping - was: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


Perhaps it is giving you a grade on your picture. Count the beeps. ;-)

Len
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I do not understand the MZ-S interface - the pictures come out good anyway -
but here´s a question for which I have not found an answer in the manual:
why does the thing sometimes beep repeatedly - after when I already have
taken the picture? 
All the best!
Raimo
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snip
It's almost incredible that so many people don't understand the MZ-S
interface.

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Vs: Beeping - was: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-31 Thread Raimo Korhonen

Nope - focus confirmation is single beep which I know well - and it supposedly does 
not occur after the shutter release.
All the best!
Raimo
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Raimo Korhonen wrote:

 ...but here´s a question for which I have not found an answer in the 
 manual: why does the thing sometimes beep repeatedly - after when I 
 already have taken the picture?

Audible focus confirmation, which can be turned off 
with a ...(roll of drums)... Pentax Function!

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Vs: On how I officially entered to The Brotherhood (a bit long)

2002-07-31 Thread Raimo Korhonen

Congratulations!
All the best!
Raimo
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Aihe: On how I officially entered to The Brotherhood (a bit long)


Dedicated to Aaron...


Hi, gang.
I just wanted to share my happiness.
Some days ago I sold my LX. I rarely used it lately (since I was stolen
last year I never took it out from my home, and was using my ME Super
instead). So, since my economic situation is unstable now (90%
possibilities of becoming unemployed next month), and it was collecting
dust, I decided to transform it in green cash, to have just in case.
But it's not so easy to save money when a great opportunity arises. In a
local ebay page, a guy was selling a 6x7 for half of what it costs normally
(BIN of 550 usd, and it costs from 1000 to 1500 in used stores). I was hard
tempted, and in case I needed the money in a future, it's a pro camera with
very good reputation and possibilities of sale. The risk was a bit high
since he was in Chaco province, 1000 km away from Buenos Aires (Argentina
is huge), so, in case the camera not worked, or he sent a brick in a box,
it would be very difficult to me to recover my money (a little fortune in
my situation). He has good feedback and I was hyper-enabled, so I decided
to take the risk. The transaction went smooth, I talked to him and he told
me the camera was as new, and he was not using it since there wasn't any
lab in the whole province developing 120 film in the last couple of years.
He accepted to share shipping cost with me, and this Monday I received a
huge box. I opened it, and inside was a beautifull, cute leather hardcase
with Asahi Pentax engraved on it. I was flying. Opened it, and there it
was, an absolutely mint 6x7 body, non MLU, with metering prsim, a SMC
Takumar 105 2.4 in like new condition, strap and all the original caps
(including the lens with Aoc logo engraved) , and even the metal tool to
actrivate the shutter without film.
It feels gorgeous in the hands. The weight distributes very well thru the
big body and lens, so it doesn't feels so heavy. I was expecting it to feel
far heavier. The quality and feel is superb. The noise of mirror is cool
and not so loud as I imagined. It included an expired roll so I tried the
film advance, and seems to work. I'll take a roll this weekend to see if
everithing is ok.
I'm super happy. This camera is DA BOMB, man, is a real beauty. The MLU
issue doesn't bothers me too much, since I don't plan to use any tele in
the future, and I'll try to avoid the problematic slow speeds, and use my
heavy Manfrotto always I can. There's a small issue with the prism. To be
honest, I'll use my Gossen Lunapro with this camera, but to have the prism
metering could be handy. The problem is the finder rattles a bit in its
place, it's just a bit loose, and it prevents the contact between the
current pins in body and prism. If I press the finder against the body, it
works, but if I leave it, it looses contact. The distance is very very
minimal. Any suggestion on how to fix it? As I said, I'll almost never use
it, but I would like it to work.
Flying some inches from the floor.

Albano
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Vs: Beeping - was: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-31 Thread Raimo Korhonen

Really? This is good news, I was beginning to think that something is wrong. Thank you 
(and all others who have pointed this out! And I still do not find it in the manual.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

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on 31.07.02 18:19, Raimo Korhonen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do not understand the MZ-S interface - the pictures come out good anyway -
 but heres a question for which I have not found an answer in the manual: why
 does the thing sometimes beep repeatedly - after when I already have taken the
 picture? 
You have probably reached frame number 30 and it warns you, that you are
near the end of your film. This warning is standard in MZ-S.

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sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7

2002-07-31 Thread Timo Hartikainen

My trusty A-50/1.7's aperture ring is so sticky it will not go over 
f8/f11...have anybody seen this before? and what to do or is it time to let 
a professional fix it?
Between f1.7 - f8/f11 it seems to be OK.

-Timo



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??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread steven gilson

Hi all,

I am looking for a compact medium tele whose main use would be available light street 
photography and candid portraits.  From looking at tech info and user comments the 
best (perfect?) canidate I can find in the Pentax line up is the M120/2.8.  The only 
problem is I can't seem to find one for sale.  I also fear that when I do it will be 
priced out of my range due to rarity.  

I'm wondering first off if some of you who have used this lens would agree that it is 
right for the job.  If so, what would be a fair price for one in good 
optical/mechanical condition?  And finally, can anyone suggest an alternative lens, 
maybe a 3rd party?  

What appeals to me is the small size and weight for the focal length and speed of the 
lens.  It would see a lot of use on a MX at wide aperatures.  I currently have a zoom 
and a macro prime covering the focal range, neither of which meets both my size and my 
speed criteria.

Thanks for listening,
Steven.
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Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7

2002-07-31 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

on 31.07.02 20:04, Timo Hartikainen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My trusty A-50/1.7's aperture ring is so sticky it will not go over
 f8/f11...have anybody seen this before? and what to do or is it time to let
 a professional fix it?
 Between f1.7 - f8/f11 it seems to be OK.
 
Probably lubricants got into blades of diaphragm. I have had similar
situation with my F 50/1.7. You'd better let a professional service clean it
unless you can unscrew then put together the lens back.

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Re: On how I officially entered to The Brotherhood (a bit long)

2002-07-31 Thread Albano_Garcia

Thanks Bill and Bruce.
The rattle is not to the sides, but up-down. And the difference is very
subtle, but enough for don't allow the prism to work ok. I'll try the
suggestion to clean the contacts, but to me the issue is due to this slight
loose. If I keep the prism firmly against the body with my hand's pressure,
it works, but as soon as I leave it, it switchs off. And the prism is well
fitted, I hear the clicks, and I can't take it off, but for some reason
it's this way. I don't know. I'll try the cleaning and let you know
Regards

Albano
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Re: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread Bmacrae

Steven,

There was a guy in Honk Kong selling one on eBay a couple weeks ago but it 
didn't sell:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1365133427

Maybe you can make him an offer?

-Brendan MacRae
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RE: FS Pentax Original Fisheye PUTTING IT CLEAR FOR LEN

2002-07-31 Thread Albano_Garcia

In this case I think it's your ability. You're the only one who
misunderstood it, and reading the phrase carefully: Even if you don't want
it, you can make a good difference on ebay... I can't imagine how you
managed to understand that, specially because I don't mention any link to a
supposed auction, and it looks clearly as a simple FS add as usual on PDML.
Another ability you miss is to say Sorry, and to assume your own errors.
Being less acid and agressive would be nice too.
Saludos

Albano




I think it was in the wording.  Seemed to ask folks to bid it up, even if
they didn't want to buy it, so you could get a higher price for it.  But,
now I see that it was just a matter of a difference in the ability to use
English.
Len
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Re: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread Bmacrae

In a message dated 7/31/2002 11:59:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 There was a guy in Honk Kong selling one on eBay a couple weeks ago but it 
 didn't sell:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1365133427
 
 Maybe you can make him an offer?
 

Whoops! He did relist it and it sold...

My bad...

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Re: Leaving the list

2002-07-31 Thread Bmacrae

Paul...

It's been nice having you around.

Check back sometime in the future.

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RE: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk

If you don't mind losing about half a stop, you could get a M 135mm f/3.5 -
this lens is plentifull (and therefore easy to find), cheap( you could get
one in very good condition for as little as $60-70), but very good (at least
I like it). It's also very compact and light (weights the same as the 120,
and is just a bit longer - 3mm of difference I think).

Hope this helps,
Lukasz
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Re: AF 360 FGZ AF assist question

2002-07-31 Thread Brad Dobo

Good question! I'd be interested in knowing that myself actually. My bet is
it does not, guess I could test it, but I'm lazy :)  Hope someone knows!

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:59 AM
Subject: AF 360 FGZ AF assist question


 Hi!
 Can users of AF 360 FGZ and MZ-S tell me if this flash provides wide AF
 assist beam, i.e. covering all focusing points on MZ-S?

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Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7

2002-07-31 Thread Rfsindg

It's the A button on the aperture ring.  It is held back by two leaf springs.  These 
are poorly secured to the plastic lens body and come loose.  They prevent you from 
moving the aperture ring all the way to A.  

If you are careful, you can take the aperture ring off and glue the leaf springs down 
with super glue.  The only tricky part is doing it slowly and not looseing the tiny 
ball bearing that makes the f stops go click.

But you should be handy with small parts and have patience.

Regards, Bob S.

  My trusty A-50/1.7's aperture ring is so sticky it will
  not go over f8/f11...have anybody seen this before? and
  what to do or is it time to let a professional fix it?
  Between f1.7 - f8/f11 it seems to be OK.
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Re: Dust The City, starring ZX-5n

2002-07-31 Thread Pat White

I occasionally noticed dust in the finder of my MZ-5n, and once mentioned it while I 
was at Pentax Canada to buy a filter or something.  The parts manager called the head 
technician, who took away the camera and returned it within five minutes with the 
focusing screen cleaned.  He said I shouldn't try it at home, but it's probably not 
that complicated. 

As for the MZ-S, I haven't seen any dust in it yet, and anyway, the focusing screen is 
user-removable, so I'm not worried about it.

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RE: FS Pentax Original Fisheye PUTTING IT CLEAR FOR LEN

2002-07-31 Thread Paris, Leonard

Let's just say that i was the only one that didn't ignore it and leave it at
that.

Len
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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FS Pentax Original Fisheye PUTTING IT CLEAR FOR LEN


In this case I think it's your ability. You're the only one who
misunderstood it, and reading the phrase carefully: Even if you don't want
it, you can make a good difference on ebay... I can't imagine how you
managed to understand that, specially because I don't mention any link to a
supposed auction, and it looks clearly as a simple FS add as usual on PDML.
Another ability you miss is to say Sorry, and to assume your own errors.
Being less acid and agressive would be nice too.
Saludos

Albano




I think it was in the wording.  Seemed to ask folks to bid it up, even if
they didn't want to buy it, so you could get a higher price for it.  But,
now I see that it was just a matter of a difference in the ability to use
English.
Len
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Re[2]: AF 360 FGZ AF assist question

2002-07-31 Thread Bruce Dayton

Brad,

In a quick test in the garage with the FA *24 all sensors worked fine.
Basically, it puts out a red light pattern and each sensor was able to
see it and focus.  I didn't try it with film though.


Bruce



Wednesday, July 31, 2002, 12:05:08 PM, you wrote:

BD Good question! I'd be interested in knowing that myself actually. My bet is
BD it does not, guess I could test it, but I'm lazy :)  Hope someone knows!

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BD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BD Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:59 AM
BD Subject: AF 360 FGZ AF assist question


 Hi!
 Can users of AF 360 FGZ and MZ-S tell me if this flash provides wide AF
 assist beam, i.e. covering all focusing points on MZ-S?

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RE: Dust The City, starring ZX-5n

2002-07-31 Thread tom

A smart thing to do is to clean your camera bag out every once in a
while.

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 I occasionally noticed dust in the finder of my MZ-5n, and
 once mentioned it while I was at Pentax Canada to buy a
 filter or something.  The parts manager called the head
 technician, who took away the camera and returned it within
 five minutes with the focusing screen cleaned.  He said I
 shouldn't try it at home, but it's probably not that complicated.

 As for the MZ-S, I haven't seen any dust in it yet, and
 anyway, the focusing screen is user-removable, so I'm not
 worried about it.

 Pat White
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Re: Leaving the list

2002-07-31 Thread Pat White

Paul, try nomail, you'll be able to look quickly and check anything of interest in a 
few minutes.

If you go, the list'll miss you, dude.

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Re: what is a good 20mm

2002-07-31 Thread Carlos Royo

Chris Stoddart wrote about the Mir 47-K 20 mm. 2.5:
 1. The filters go on the back, you get three supplied with it. I have had
  differing reports as to whether one has to be fitted permanently (i.e.
  part of the optical formula). One guy I have spoken to swears that the
  factory technicians told him they do, however my mate down the corridor
  at work has read the manual for me (he's Russian) and it apparently says
  nothing about this. Also the optical diagram in the manual doesn't include
  the filter. This is fairly crucial because

I can tell you my experience about this lens: I wrote a message to the
list some months ago, then I said the filters where not necessary for
infinite focus, and this is what it seems to me after some months using
this lens.
BUT, they are needed to correct some colour fringing at the edges of the
image, or better said, if you don't use a filter, for example the clear
UV one, you will see such colour fringing at the corners of the
negatives or slides, this is gone when you fit the filters. So it seems
that the filter is an important part in the optical dormula of the lens.
Then, I can't use the lens in the small Pentaxes I have (MZ-S, MZ-5
and MX) because it interferes with the movement of the mirror when it
swings back to its start position, as Chris said. It doesn't happen with
my Z-1 or SFX bodies.


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Spotmatic part wanted.

2002-07-31 Thread Leon Altoff

Hello All,

I am in need of a rewind knob for a Spotmatic.  I have the rewind
shaft, I'm just missing the knob on the end.  If anyone has one of
these in a parts bin somewhere and would be wiling to sell it to me
please send a message off list.

Thanks.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
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Re: On how I officially entered to The Brotherhood

2002-07-31 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, gang.
 I just wanted to share my happiness.
 (...)

Hi Albano,

Congratulations and welcome to the Brotherhood!
You'll soon find how delightful those big negatives and slides
are...

I'm sorry but I have no clue about the problem you have with the
prism. I have no TTL finder so I really cannot help you. Hope
it's something easily fixable, BTW.

Ciao,

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August PUG is open

2002-07-31 Thread Adelheid v. K.

Hi *,

the August PUG is ready to go. I am a bit early but you probably don't mind.
;)

Another month with great pics.

Cheers
Adelheid


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Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7

2002-07-31 Thread Mark Roberts

Timo Hartikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My trusty A-50/1.7's aperture ring is so sticky it will not go over 
f8/f11...have anybody seen this before? and what to do or is it time to let 
a professional fix it?
Between f1.7 - f8/f11 it seems to be OK.

Common problem with the A50/1.7. The aperture ring is plastic, rather than metal
as on the A50/1.4, and it wears readily. Also the springs that tension the A
button sometimes break off. They can be reattached, but it 's a bit tricky and
takes some creativity.

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RE: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread steven gilson

Thanks for the suggestion, Lukasz.

If I can't track down a M 120/2.8 at a reasonable price I will probably go for either 
a SMC-M 100/2.8 or 135/3.5.  Can somebody tell me about these lenses when used wide 
open or close to it?  I'm mainly interested in their performance when focused from 15 
feet and farther.

I really would like something a little longer than 100mm as I already have a macro in 
that length and a 35-105/3.5 zoom.  I know nobody likes the SMC-A 135/2.8 or the Tak-A 
135/2.5, but the faster SMC 135s are too $$$ and really bigger than what I want.  Was 
there a Ricoh or Vivitar S1 135/2.8 (non-macro)?

Steven.

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Re: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread Alan Chan

There are several similar design lenses from Pentax (all 5 elements in 
similar arrangement). SMC PENTAX-M 135/3.5 is also very compact and sharp 
with afordable price. They are everywhere. The M120/2.8 is much more 
expensive than they should be now, I don't see the point to pay USD300 for 
one unless you really want it for some reason. More like a collective item 
imho.

regards,
Alan Chan

I am looking for a compact medium tele whose main use would be available 
light street photography and candid portraits.  From looking at tech info 
and user comments the best (perfect?) canidate I can find in the Pentax 
line up is the M120/2.8.  The only problem is I can't seem to find one for 
sale.  I also fear that when I do it will be priced out of my range due to 
rarity.

I'm wondering first off if some of you who have used this lens would agree 
that it is right for the job.  If so, what would be a fair price for one in 
good optical/mechanical condition?  And finally, can anyone suggest an 
alternative lens, maybe a 3rd party?

What appeals to me is the small size and weight for the focal length and 
speed of the lens.  It would see a lot of use on a MX at wide aperatures.  
I currently have a zoom and a macro prime covering the focal range, neither 
of which meets both my size and my speed criteria.


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Re: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread Alan Chan

There was a guy in Honk Kong selling one on eBay a couple weeks ago but it
didn't sell:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1365133427

Maybe you can make him an offer?

Mind you that it's not the 'M' which is much more compact.

regards,
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Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7

2002-07-31 Thread Alan Chan

My trusty A-50/1.7's aperture ring is so sticky it will not go over 
f8/f11...have anybody seen this before? and what to do or is it time to let 
a professional fix it?
Between f1.7 - f8/f11 it seems to be OK.

I had two A50/1.7 and both had poor aperture rings. Clean and relubrication 
didn't work. I believe it was a design flaw associated with some plastic F 
and A lenses (plastic-to-plastic surface).

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Re: Leaving the list

2002-07-31 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Paul,

Sad about you leaving, but I'm not gonna try to convince you otherwise g.

I feel that I've gotten to know you from some of your posts, and I think
the list will be somewhat diminished by your leaving.  Hope all goes well
for you.

And I'm guessing that I speak for everyone else here, when I say that I
look forward to your return whenever that time is convenient for you.

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RE: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread Peter Alling

By the way if you can find the 120 you'll love it.  It is very good for the 
type of photography you're interested in.

At 03:51 PM 7/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion, Lukasz.

If I can't track down a M 120/2.8 at a reasonable price I will probably go 
for either a SMC-M 100/2.8 or 135/3.5.  Can somebody tell me about these 
lenses when used wide open or close to it?  I'm mainly interested in their 
performance when focused from 15 feet and farther.

I really would like something a little longer than 100mm as I already have 
a macro in that length and a 35-105/3.5 zoom.  I know nobody likes the 
SMC-A 135/2.8 or the Tak-A 135/2.5, but the faster SMC 135s are too $$$ 
and really bigger than what I want.  Was there a Ricoh or Vivitar S1 
135/2.8 (non-macro)?

Steven.

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Re: August PUG is open

2002-07-31 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 7/31/2002 3:45:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 the August PUG is ready to go. I am a bit early but you probably don't mind.
 ;)
 
 Another month with great pics.
 
 Cheers
 Adelheid
 

Again Adelheid, thank you for doing this.

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Re: On how I officially entered to The Brotherhood (a bit long)

2002-07-31 Thread Cotty

Congrats on your purchase, Albano. Always a great thrill to receive 
something through the post, eh? Go take some great shots!

:-)

Cotty

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Re: August PUG is open

2002-07-31 Thread Rob Studdert

On 31 Jul 2002 at 22:41, Adelheid v. K. wrote:

 Hi *,
 
 the August PUG is ready to go. I am a bit early but you probably don't mind. ;)
 
 Another month with great pics.

Agreed, awesome gallery.

As I still don't have my hands on a scanner (ie no Pentax based shots) please 
see my alternate reflections gallery entry at:

http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/pug0802.html

Cheers,

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Re: August PUG is open

2002-07-31 Thread Cotty

Hi *,

the August PUG is ready to go. I am a bit early but you probably don't mind.
;)

Another month with great pics.

Cheers
Adelheid

Thanks Adelheid! We love you!

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Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7

2002-07-31 Thread Rob Studdert

On 31 Jul 2002 at 16:53, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Common problem with the A50/1.7. The aperture ring is plastic, rather than metal
 as on the A50/1.4, and it wears readily. Also the springs that tension the A
 button sometimes break off. They can be reattached, but it 's a bit tricky and
 takes some creativity.

I too had this problem occur with one of my lenses, the little metal leaf 
springs have a hole at their bases and that are held in place by a plastic 
spike on the aperture that has been melted. This joint fractures and then there 
is no material left to allow it to be re-attached. 

What I did to repair mine was to clean all the lubricant from the area with 
spirits. And then use a slow setting epoxy glue to re-attach the spring making 
sure that no glue fouled the rotating parts of the mechanism. I'd stay away 
from cyanoacrylates (ie Super Glue®) as it can foul surfaces whilst curing.

Cheers,

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RE: FS Pentax Original Fisheye PUTTING IT CLEAR FOR LEN

2002-07-31 Thread Rob Studdert

On 31 Jul 2002 at 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In this case I think it's your ability. You're the only one who
 misunderstood it, and reading the phrase carefully: Even if you don't want it,
 you can make a good difference on ebay... I can't imagine how you managed to
 understand that, specially because I don't mention any link to a supposed
 auction, and it looks clearly as a simple FS add as usual on PDML. Another
 ability you miss is to say Sorry, and to assume your own errors. Being less
 acid and agressive would be nice too. Saludos

Hi Albano,

If I had read your original proposal I would also have misinterpreted it as it 
was written, sorry.

Cheers,

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Re: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread Timothy Sherburne

Hi Steven...

Yes, the comments regarding the A 135/2.8 are generally negative. Despite
those, I picked one up to see for myself. The lens produced nice 5x7 prints
at mid apertures (using Fuji Reala), but I'm sure larger prints would've
revealed its weaknesses. It's very inexpensive on eBay, between $50 and $75
for ones in good condition. I sold it because I didn't feel that it could
outperform my SMC-A 70-210/4 and was cluttering my bag. I'll wait for a
outrageous bargain on an 135/1.8.

AFAIK, the k-mount Takumar has uncoated optics and a generally poor build
quality. The M 135/3.5 would probably be a good choice.

t

On 7/31/02 1:51 PM, steven gilson wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion, Lukasz.
 
 If I can't track down a M 120/2.8 at a reasonable price I will probably go for
 either a SMC-M 100/2.8 or 135/3.5.  Can somebody tell me about these lenses
 when used wide open or close to it?  I'm mainly interested in their
 performance when focused from 15 feet and farther.
 
 I really would like something a little longer than 100mm as I already have a
 macro in that length and a 35-105/3.5 zoom.  I know nobody likes the SMC-A
 135/2.8 or the Tak-A 135/2.5, but the faster SMC 135s are too $$$ and really
 bigger than what I want.  Was there a Ricoh or Vivitar S1 135/2.8 (non-macro)?
 
 Steven.
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Re: Pentax Functions for PZ1

2002-07-31 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

I have a surprise for you, I have scanned and made a pdf file of the 
entire PZ-1 manual. I have a few others as well on my page. like the 
AF280T.
My general entry to my homepage is http://www.wuthrich.cc
The files are under Photo Links.
The PZ-1 is at:
http://www.postkoets.btinternet.co.uk/PZ-1.pdf
Please be aware that it is 4.3MB, so you need to give it some time.

I hope it is useful for you.

Frits J. Wüthrich
(Sent with Kmail)

On Thursday 01 August 2002 05:26, Paul Jones wrote:
 Hi,

 Does any one have some sort of documentation for the Pentax Functions
 for the PZ1 that they could scan for me?. I just aquired one and have
 no idea what half of them do :) My MZ-S came with a small folding
 card listing the fuctions.

  How different are they from the ones on the PZ1-P? as i have
 downloaded this manual from the pentax web site.

 Thanks,
 Paul
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Re: On how I officially entered to The Brotherhood (a bit long)

2002-07-31 Thread Rob Studdert

On 31 Jul 2002 at 15:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Bill and Bruce.
 The rattle is not to the sides, but up-down. And the difference is very
 subtle, but enough for don't allow the prism to work ok. I'll try the
 suggestion to clean the contacts, but to me the issue is due to this slight
 loose. If I keep the prism firmly against the body with my hand's pressure, it
 works, but as soon as I leave it, it switchs off. And the prism is well fitted,
 I hear the clicks, and I can't take it off, but for some reason it's this way. I
 don't know. I'll try the cleaning and let you know Regards

Hi Albano,

Congratulations on the purchase, I can't wait to hear your response when you 
first view some nice big 67 slides under a loupe :-)

If the prism rattles up and down then the foam around the base of the prism may 
have deteriorated as it should keep the assembly pretty tight, if so it's not 
difficult to cut some foam to fit. However this doesn't explain your metering 
problem, maybe the springs behind the electrical contacts on the prism have 
become weak?

Cheers,

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RE: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk

 I'll wait for a
outrageous bargain on an 135/1.8.

:-

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Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7

2002-07-31 Thread Jim Fellows

Those little ball bearings a very easy to use.  Pentax in Colorado is
currently out with more do in 30 to 40 days.  I checked today.

Jim Fellows
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From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7


My trusty A-50/1.7's aperture ring is so sticky it will not go over
f8/f11...have anybody seen this before? and what to do or is it time to let
a professional fix it?
Between f1.7 - f8/f11 it seems to be OK.

I had two A50/1.7 and both had poor aperture rings. Clean and relubrication
didn't work. I believe it was a design flaw associated with some plastic F
and A lenses (plastic-to-plastic surface).

regards,
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Two flash related issues #1: Sunpak-Pentax 645 compatibility

2002-07-31 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Hi everybody,

I had decided to write a single mail about my flash adentures of
the last month, but it seems they would come out too long so I
cut the message in two.

First, the Sunpak-Pentax 645 problem:
I don't know if anybody has ever experienced this: I own a
couple of Sunpak G4500DX flashes with TTL cords for Pentax
cameras (the non-af version). One of my cousins asked me to take
his marriage pictures and I decided to use one of those flashes
with one of my two 645. It was the first time that I was using
the Sunpak - TTL cord - 645 combo (usually I have a AF280T on
the hotshoe and/or a Sunpak connected via pc cord). Needless to
say, the TTL Sunpak cord works nicely with every otyher camera I
own but...
After the first couple of shots, I noticed that the flash was
discharging all the power after each shot. The green light
blinked, so I thought that *maybe* the dark suit of the groom
was eating most of the light. I was shooting at f/4 with a 400
Iso film, though, so the output should have been enough.
Unfortunately I've lost a couple of important moments because
the flash was very slow in recharging (and I was too stupid to
shot those moments with the MZ-5n I had ready around my
neck...). 
Back home (luckily, the ceremony in the church was at noon and
the party in the evening) I tested in every way the two flashes,
the two TTL cords and the two cameras in various combinations.
Results: odd but true, the 645 pilots the flash in the right
way... until the shutter is closed. Then the flash fires again,
this time at full output. This is evident when the shutter speed
is slow enough.

Another lesson learned...

Gianfranco


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RE: Leaving the list

2002-07-31 Thread Simon King

Paul,
Sorry to hear you're leaving. 
Good luck with the writing - let us know when you do finish your essay(s)
and where we can read them.
She'll give up her crossword puzzles,
Cryptic or easy? :-)
Cheers,
Simon



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From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2002 8:38 AM
To: Pentax Discussion Group
Subject: Leaving the list


My wife and I have made a pact: She'll give up her crossword puzzles,
I'll give up the list. Truth be told, I was poising to leave anyway.
I'm finally content with the gear I have and no longer visit EBay. And I
really need to free up time to write the essays I claim to want to
write.

Feel free to write me off-list for collected comments on Pentax or
third-party K-mount or screwmount lenses, or photos (largely from EBay)
of compatible lenses, hoods, camera grips, eyepiece aids, and
teleconverters, as well as fixed-lens manual-focus rangefinders and
scale-focusing cameras from the 60s through 90s.

I've enjoyed this latest round of give and take. Who knows? I may come
groveling back.

I plan to pull the plug by Friday.


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Re: ??? on SMC M 120/2.8 and street candids

2002-07-31 Thread William Johnson

It's a little longer and slower, but the M135/3.5 is quite small, inexpensive and 
common.  Also, it is quite sharp, even wide open.

William in Utah

7/31/2002 12:09:10 PM, steven gilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I am looking for a compact medium tele whose main use would be available light street 
photography and candid portraits.  From looking at tech info and user 
comments the best (perfect?) canidate I can find in the Pentax line up is the 
M120/2.8.  The only problem is I can't seem to find one for sale.  I also fear that 
when I 
do it will be priced out of my range due to rarity.  

I'm wondering first off if some of you who have used this lens would agree that it is 
right for the job.  If so, what would be a fair price for one in good 
optical/mechanical condition?  And finally, can anyone suggest an alternative lens, 
maybe a 3rd party?  

What appeals to me is the small size and weight for the focal length and speed of the 
lens.  It would see a lot of use on a MX at wide aperatures.  I currently have a 
zoom and a macro prime covering the focal range, neither of which meets both my size 
and my speed criteria.

Thanks for listening,
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RE: Beeping - was: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-31 Thread Cesar Matamoros II

Raimo,

It is only listed in the Function section, in the English manual.  For F1
in enabling the audible PCV signal it states that the beeps are for focus
confirmation, errors, or film count reaching 30.

I turn this function off because I dont like the focus confirmation.  I
would like the warning for film use.  Actually I would like to have the film
counter in the viewfinder.  My Nikon F3 has it.  This weekend I will be
taking finish line photos at a triathlon.  I have to always look at the
counter to be ready for a camera change and therefore a film roll change.
This alerts me if I have to change from the MZ-S to the ZX-5 and vice-versa.

Did Pentax ever make a camera with a film counter in the viewfinder?
Interesting if they didnt.

Csar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Raimo Korhonen
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:42 PM

Really? This is good news, I was beginning to think that something is wrong.
Thank you (and all others who have pointed this out! And I still do not find
it in the manual.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

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Lhettj: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Piv: 31. heinkuuta 2002 17:32

on 31.07.02 18:19, Raimo Korhonen at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I do not understand the MZ-S interface - the pictures come out good
anyway -
 but heres a question for which I have not found an answer in the manual:
why
 does the thing sometimes beep repeatedly - after when I already have
taken the
 picture?
You have probably reached frame number 30 and it warns you, that you are
near the end of your film. This warning is standard in MZ-S.

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More Limited lenses in the bag.

2002-07-31 Thread Cesar Matamoros II

I finally got around to getting the 31 f1.8 Limited lens yesterday.  I got
it locally.  I had used the lens on two separate occasions due to the
magnanimous nature of my Pentax rep.  I consider myself fortunate to have a
rep to call my own :-)  Now I have a 31 that is mine.

Tomorrow night there is a free outdoor concert in an oak ladened park here.
It only lasts an hour.  I think I will take an LX with ASA 400 bw and
another with ASA 400 color slide film.  The lens collection will be the
31-1.8, 50-1.2, and the 77-1.8.  No flash required!  I have been anxious to
try it out.

Just had to tell someone,  thanks for listening,

César
Panama City, Florida
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Re: Leaving the list for a bit, too in a few days...and OTtravel stuff

2002-07-31 Thread Ann Sanfedele

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 Ann,

 Kudos on your shot in this months pug, I liked it a lot.

Thanks Brendan

 By the by, San Diego is my ol' home town. Have fun while you're there. If you
 get a chance, try Dick's Last Resort in the Gaslamp quarter(near the
 concourse, about 6-7 blocks away on 4th avenue). It's really an experience...

So is being a word judge in a 700 player championship - I'm probably going to
fold every night at 8 pm :) but thanks for the tip :)

ann




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Re: Two flash related issues #1: Sunpak-Pentax 645 compatibility

2002-07-31 Thread Jim Apilado

I used a Sunpak model with the Pentax module on my LX.  Unfortunately, it
did not give me TTL confirmation with the blinking diode in the viewfinder.
I just use a Pentax 280T with the special synch cord on the LX to get TTL
and the blinking diode in my LX.
Now, with my Pentax 645,  I use the 400 T and that special synch cord to get
TTL with the 645.  I like the way the camera adjusts flash output with
ambient light in a church or hall when I shoot weddings with it.

Jim A. 

 From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:30:48 -0700 (PDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Two flash related issues #1: Sunpak-Pentax 645 compatibility
 
 Hi everybody,
 
 I had decided to write a single mail about my flash adentures of
 the last month, but it seems they would come out too long so I
 cut the message in two.
 
 First, the Sunpak-Pentax 645 problem:
 I don't know if anybody has ever experienced this: I own a
 couple of Sunpak G4500DX flashes with TTL cords for Pentax
 cameras (the non-af version). One of my cousins asked me to take
 his marriage pictures and I decided to use one of those flashes
 with one of my two 645. It was the first time that I was using
 the Sunpak - TTL cord - 645 combo (usually I have a AF280T on
 the hotshoe and/or a Sunpak connected via pc cord). Needless to
 say, the TTL Sunpak cord works nicely with every otyher camera I
 own but...
 After the first couple of shots, I noticed that the flash was
 discharging all the power after each shot. The green light
 blinked, so I thought that *maybe* the dark suit of the groom
 was eating most of the light. I was shooting at f/4 with a 400
 Iso film, though, so the output should have been enough.
 Unfortunately I've lost a couple of important moments because
 the flash was very slow in recharging (and I was too stupid to
 shot those moments with the MZ-5n I had ready around my
 neck...). 
 Back home (luckily, the ceremony in the church was at noon and
 the party in the evening) I tested in every way the two flashes,
 the two TTL cords and the two cameras in various combinations.
 Results: odd but true, the 645 pilots the flash in the right
 way... until the shutter is closed. Then the flash fires again,
 this time at full output. This is evident when the shutter speed
 is slow enough.
 
 Another lesson learned...
 
 Gianfranco
 
 
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Re: On how I officially entered to The Brotherhood (a bit long)

2002-07-31 Thread William Robb

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: On how I officially entered to The Brotherhood (a
bit long)


 Thanks Bill and Bruce.
 The rattle is not to the sides, but up-down. And the
difference is very
 subtle, but enough for don't allow the prism to work ok. I'll
try the
 suggestion to clean the contacts, but to me the issue is due
to this slight
 loose. If I keep the prism firmly against the body with my
hand's pressure,
 it works, but as soon as I leave it, it switchs off. And the
prism is well
 fitted, I hear the clicks, and I can't take it off, but for
some reason
 it's this way. I don't know. I'll try the cleaning and let you
know

Hi, Brother Albano:
I just popped the prism off my 6x7.
Mine has significant up and down play in the mounting, and can
be pushed down 2 or 3 millimeters from its resting position. I
believe this is normal, as my camera was like this from the get
go.
 The electrical contacts are on the back of the prism, more or
less under the eyepiece. The protrude perhaps 3mm (I don't have
a micrometer), and are held out by fairly strong springs.
I suspect you are right, and your metering problem is the
mechanical contact between prism and body.
Here is what I would try:
First, clean the contacts with a pencil eraser. The prism
contacts appear to be less prone to oxidization than the body
contacts.
Also, check and make sure that the spring loaded prism contacts
are in fact actively sprung.
Not knowing the internal construction of the contacts, it is
possible that the cotact point is a sliding mechanical contact
rather than a hard soldered contact.
I would exercise the contacts a bit by pressing them flat to
the housing and releasing them, on the off chance that they
might be cleanable by this method.
You can see the contact pins with the prism mounted, so you
should be able to tell if they are making contact or not.
Welcome to the Brotherhood
Brother William.
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70-2x0 zoom question

2002-07-31 Thread Andrew Robinson

In response to my queries about autofocus telephoto zooms, a couple of
folks have recommended the Pentax 70-200 f4-5.6 F or FA lenses. Someone
else instead recommended the Pentax 70-210 zoom. Elsewhere I found a
comment that the 70-210 zoom is not considered highly. Has anyone got
the scoop on these two (actually three) lenses?

Thanks!

Andrew Robinson
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Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7

2002-07-31 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Peter Spiro
Subject: Re: sticky aperture ring - a-50/1.7


 My advice would be to leave it alone.  The cost of the repair
to have it
 done professionally is more than the value of the lens.   I
would strongly
 advise against trying to do it yourself.  The parts under A
and F lens
 aperture rings are so tiny, and so hard to put back, that it
is very likely
 to end up worse than how you started -- I speak from
experience.

I tried to repair a sticky aperture ring on an A 50mm f/1.7,
after reading Alan Chan's very lucid description of how to do
it.
The lens mount is now doing time as a 35mm to view camera
adapter, the rest of the lens is now in the City of Regina
landfill.
I can strip and rebuild a BMW 3.0 liter inline 6, I can balance
the carbs on a 12 cylinder E-type Jaguar by ear, and I can
diagnose and repair almost any photo lab problem, but those
darned A series lenses don't like me at all.
William Robb
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LX repair update

2002-07-31 Thread William Robb

My 3rd LX is still in the shop (PCI, Mississauga). They have had
it since the middle of May.
They have been telling me for the past couple of weeks it would
be shipped soon, and last Monday, they told me it would ship on
Wednesday. Since I hadn't received it on Monday, I decided to
call them, in case the box had perhaps gone astray (it would be
an overnight courier shipment).
The repair person apologized, and told me it had, in fact, been
shipped last Friday.
Since it is now Wednesday, and still no LX, I called Pentax
again today. After being bounced from parts to shipping, and
having them hang up on me a few times I finally connected with
the service manager.
Through all of this, I actually held my temper and my stupid
insulting mouth in check. No sense antagonizing them
unnecessarily.
I asked him to look into it, and find out what shipper they had
used, and to get me a tracking number.
He left a message on my answering machine saying that the camera
was not yet repaired, and they didn't even have the correct
parts yet to complete the job.

So, I have now been lied to by the Pentax service department.

I have to wonder if their next trick will be to decide they
cannot repair the thing at all, and rather than admit they are
in violation of Canadian consumer laws, they will just quietly
arrange to have the camera get lost in shipping.
Needless to say, I have to wonder if the Pentax Colorado people
from a couple of years back emigrated to Toronto.
Anyway, I needed to vent, and for a change, I am on topic.
William Robb
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