Vs: Interesting OT: Aland and Finland (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion)
Motherland Sweden? Before Finland Aland belonged to imperial Russia. Most of nowadays so called micro states are very prosperous. Yes, and Aland developing to the direction of a tax haven is no exception. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 01. helmikuuta 2004 0:25 Aihe: Interesting OT: Aland and Finland (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion) From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually it was given to Finland by the League of Nations. That is correct. This was in June 1921, after Finland, having put the Aland Islands under military occupation, had declared that she wouldn't comply with any decision by the League of Nations, other than one which forced Aland and the Alanders under Finnish sovereignty, and that Finland, if she wouldn't have her way, would rather go to war to get it. (You could even say that it was England who by her influential position in the League of Nations gave Aland to Finland. If the wish of the Aland people would materialize - what possible consequences would such a precedent carry with regards to the British Empire, and not only to the Irish question.) There was no referendum but prominent Alanders were of the opinion that Aland should be given to Sweden and of course Sweden had nothing against it. It's true that there was no formal referendum, as we know it today. The reason for this was that Finland, subjecting Aland political leaders and spokesmen to political harrassments and illegal imprisonment, wouldn't allow the Alanders to conduct one, under threat of imprisoning those who asked for an internationally supervised referendum. However, the Alanders did cast votes. In June of 1919 96% of those casting their vote, by signing their names to a petition, voted for Aland to return to it's motherland Sweden. Present day Finnish history legend on the Aaland Island Question bears similarities to the Soviet-Russian history legend regarding those states which were forced under Soviet rule. The Soviet history writing basically said that only fascist elements opposed the free will of the people of those countries to join the Soviet Union. In Finland they say that only some prominent Alanders didn't want Aland to become Finnish, when in fact 96% voted for Sweden and against Finland. Anything but Finland declared the Alanders before the League of Nation. Even independence, although they knew it meant the greatest economic difficulties. Now it is a demilitarised area with quite extensive autonomy. Last time there was a poll about the matter the majority preferred to stay with Finland - no doubt because it is financially beneficial. Whether it is or not, is a matter of debate. The idea of an independent state with a population of a major village - 25000 - is, well ... interesting. I completely agree with you. Most of nowaday so called micro states are very prosperous. Lasse All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 31. tammikuuta 2004 19:17 Aihe: Re: Using multiple cameras and formats (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion) Stan Halpin: Right. But If I say Aland, who but you and Anders would know what/where that is? If I just say Sweden, I am insulting Aland. I'd think that would be more insulting to Finland than to Åland, actually, since Åland formally is part of Finland and not Sweden, even though historically Åland has had closer ties to Sweden. Sometime in the early 1900's, a referendum was held on the island, where the inhabitants voted to belong to Sweden, but Finland claimed it anyway. Lasse, what is the current status on that? What do you ålänningar think nowadays? anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
Re: Underexposed *istD w/ AF360FGZ
This one time, at band camp, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Kevin, What film do you use? I use Fugi Sensia Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
RE: I Sold One!!
frank theriault wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2069017 Way to go, Frank! Malcolm
Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!
On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I was actually thinking this myself - they could still be planning to release something low end, AND high end with the *istD smack in the middle, although, the price drop has me wondering about the low end option to some degree... I mean, maybe they intend to release something higher eg 8MP,...? Not a chance. The day that happens my cats will be sitting in the garden sipping iced tea with all the field mice. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT: The BBC and TV tax revisited
On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I'd wager the pervious car hire place didn't even _find_ the little prang spots, most of which washed off entirely! g Are they the places that hire the rubber suits as well ? Hey - you're supposed to be heading to GFM, not the other way! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
sunday lunchtime ramblings
Hi, Just managed to enviegle a pause in my slaving over house alterations from she who must be obeyed. Who does indeed appear to have an inexhaustible requirement for Vim. Quick responses to the last few days' messages. 1. Thanks to AVK, JO and Komkon for resurrecting PUG and getting the excellent new gallery out on time. 2. My favourite for this month is Jostein's moss shot. Sharp, detailed, balanced and with a number of interpretations. Excellent view of nature. 3. Well done Frank for doing something you obviously enjoy. You are a lucky person. I am now walking on the biggest photograph I've ever owned. It's called laminate flooring. Excuse me while I disappear back into the haze of plaster dust that passes for a dwelling mike
Re: First *ist D project
Thanks Bill. The lighting was two Excalibur 3200 strobes firing into two umbrellas, placed to either side of the model. You can see the double catch lights in her eyes. I thought of eliminating one sparkle in each eye, but I kind of like the double twinkle. Paul On Feb 1, 2004, at 7:13 AM, Bill Sawyer wrote: Wow - nicely done, Paul!! The lighting is especially well done -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 01, 2004 12:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:First *ist D project Here's a composite of a sequence I shot today for stock. It's my first *ist D work. Some of this wold have been a lot tougher with film. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2094378size=lg
FS: Pentax SMC-A 35-70 f/4
This is the constant f/4 standard zoom that has a good reputation and a very nice pseudo macro function at the 70mm end, focusing as close as 1:2.6, I believe. It's in EX+ condition and comes with caps. The focusing feel on this one is very light -- many A lenses have a fairly loose focusing feel, but this one is very easy to turn throughout the range, almost like an F lens. Nothing binding or inconsistent. Glass is beautiful with nearly no body wear visible on the lens at all. $40 with free shipping in the continental U.S. Joe
FS: Pentax MX winder with remote modification, EX+
For sale: Pentax MX winder with original box, manual, receipts. This winder wasn't mine originally, but the original owner sent it in to Pentax for the remote modification that was mentioned recently on the list. The socket (the standard earphone jack type) is at the top of the winder, nearly opposite the shutter release. The modification cost $25 at the time (1980). This winder didn't get much use, as it looks to be in nearly mint condition. No marks or signs of wear except for the slight circle mark around the tripod socket at the bottom. Even the delicate battery cover hasn't been abused, cross-threaded, or marked in any way. It operates beautifully. This is the MX winder with the newer on/off switch, I believe, since it has the little raised tab at the off position (between S and C), whereas I think earlier examples just had a smooth wheel. $75 including shipping in the continental U.S. Joe
RE: sunday lunchtime ramblings
mike wilson wrote: Just managed to enviegle a pause in my slaving over house alterations from she who must be obeyed. Who does indeed appear to have an inexhaustible requirement for Vim. You can still get VIM?? 2. My favourite for this month is Jostein's moss shot. Sharp, detailed, balanced and with a number of interpretations. Excellent view of nature. I certainly agree there. My favourite too. Malcolm
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
- Original Message - From: Nick Clark Subject: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!) What printer/inks/paper would you suggest for archival printing. That's always been my concern about selling inkjet prints - that they'd fade in a relatively short time. I have an Epson 1290 at present. I am using a Noritsu 3101 digital to RA-4 photo paper printer. It wasn't cheap, and it doesn't fit in the house very well, but I like it anyway. William Robb
Re: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:06:46 +0200, you wrote: It might be a good idea to clean some area in the basement and offer to take away that old and useless film only processor for free when they start to throw them out. Now that would be a good thing to do... I think the notion of getting a film processor cheap as it becomes outmoded has to be balanced with the cost of keeping if filled with usable chemistry. But there should be lots of bargains, at least at printing equipment dealers, for certain darkroom accessories like safe lights, timers, large film cutters, vacuum contact frames, etc. I threw out a fully functional roller transport processor about five years ago. We used it to process litho film. It had three temperature controlled tanks with replenishment, plus in-line water wash and dryer. It was designed to handle sheet or cartridge film from 8 to 24 wide by 10 min length up to 250' or so. It was a production machine, with six gallon tanks. As we gradually processed fewer and fewer negs during our switch to direct-to-plate, the cost of keeping it filled with fresh chemistry became prohibitive on a per-neg basis. I tried to sell or give it away in several venues, but got no takers. It was 3' wide, 6' long, and 3.5' tall, plus two large replenishment tanks, and weighed three hundred pounds or so empty, and required a minimum film size of 8x10 plus umpteen gallons of chemistry, so I didn't think about taking it home. There have been hundreds of perfectly good machines thrown away in the printing industry in the past five years. Huge flatbed through-the-wall process cameras, excellent small-footprint vertical cameras, small and large roller processors, tanks, trays, safe lights, light tables, stripping tables, many other things used only in a film-based production work flow. All gone to the landfill, or in some cases sold for a pittance to printing equipment dealers where they now gather dust. I rescued the lenses off my last process camera, for old times sake, plus a digital timer/meter and light from a contact frame. Reminders of a different era in the printing business. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Pentax *istD NEWS FLASH!!!!
I'd assume that the step up will sell for not a lot more than the current *ist-D. Maybe 200 to 400 (US Dollars Euros Pounds you name it since from the pricing I'm aware of they are used interchangeably in spite of conversion differences). Here's what I see as a workable plan introduce the Super *ist-D 8-9meg sensor (this is the big-ist challenge in my opinion) possibly a larger buffer for faster capture rate, maybe titanium clad, USM, IS, or add an actual aperture simulator for full use of older lenses any or all of these are possible. *ist-Dn really just an *ist-D with firmware upgrade maybe with a slight body redesign to address the few ergonomic problems but sold at the new lower price, injection molding is relatively easy to change. *ist-D lite same as the in a slightly different body shell current model losing some of the bells and whistles what would I remove nothing I can think of but look at the differences between the D10 and digital rebel for an idea, personally I think that the most off putting item to many are the custom functions, beginners and some older users may even be afraid of them. Of course I could be smoking banana skins. (You don't have to say it.) At 04:17 AM 2/1/04, you wrote: On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: At 06:40 PM 1/31/04, you wrote: On 31/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Nor does it preclude a Model above the *ist-D either. Sorry Pete - that is cloud cuckoo land. The likely hood is low but not impossible. Pentax has a record of taking a single basic design and differentiating the hell out of it. They seem to have perfected the method with the MZ/ZX series of cameras. What was the last count of variations, 10 not counting the MZ-S which is related to the rest of the MZ/ZX cameras in much the same way as the MX was related to the rest of the M series, mostly in name only. If the guts of the *ist-D and *ist film cameras are properly designed we may just see a new body based on both. I won't speculate on what might be in a higher level body but everyone has a wish list. I take your point but the reason I don't think they will offer 'a step up' from the *ist D / D100 / 10D level is because relatively few people would buy it. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: OT: I Sold One!!
All I have to say it that this conjures up an image too horrible to contemplate... At 04:34 AM 2/1/04, you wrote: On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Oh, oh, another one of them fine art photographers on the list now. You will be tossing the bunny ears and getting a beret now I suppose. Can I have 'em, please please please please please . Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
The HP 7000 series printers are supposed to offer 75 year life. I don't know for sure I haven't had mine that long. ;) At 07:19 AM 2/1/04, you wrote: What printer/inks/paper would you suggest for archival printing. That's always been my concern about selling inkjet prints - that they'd fade in a relatively short time. I have an Epson 1290 at present. TIA Nick -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/02/04 02:40:46 ... If you were printing digitally at home you could have done an archival 8X10 print for about a buck or two - US. Not counting several hundred in initial outlay for the printer. Kenneth Waller I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: AP Awards 2004
Which is limiting in itself. At 08:46 AM 2/1/04, you wrote: On 1 Feb 2004 at 12:31, Cotty wrote: LOL. I agree, the Pentax looks and is a very good performer. My feeling with the E-1 is that Olympus missed a good opportunity to re-enter the professional DSLR arena. They say they are going to introduce a higher end body, but I still think that full frame sensors are the Holy Grail in 35mm type DSLRs. The E-1 is a FF sensor it's just that they have adopted a new frame size. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:23:34 -0600, you wrote: What printer/inks/paper would you suggest for archival printing. That's always been my concern about selling inkjet prints - that they'd fade in a relatively short time. I have an Epson 1290 at present. I am using a Noritsu 3101 digital to RA-4 photo paper printer. It wasn't cheap, and it doesn't fit in the house very well, but I like it anyway. William Robb I looked up a pdf blurb on the Noritsu 3101, and it looks impressive. I notice max size up to 12x18 - does yours output 12x18 prints? http://www.noritsu.com/3101.pdf I could ask at my local WalMart, which I think has such a machine, but on a scale of one to ten, they score other - friendly in terms of technical knowledge. They had a hard time understanding develop only, no prints, even when I carefully explained the process and showed them their price bar code in their three-ring binder. It was so difficult a concept for them that many times they gave me the processed film for free, and no amount of protesting on my part would make them charge me the two bucks or so they were supposed to. I kept waiting for the shoplifting goons to tackle my wife and I in the parking lot as we left with my unpaid processed film... -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Shootin' Kids
Awsome shots, Shel. Of course, in a completely different category than Tan's. I love the gritty inner city feel to them. I'm always amazed that no matter where you go, kids seem to have an inherent joy in them. It's as if they have yet to be jaded by the realities of adult existence. These kids may not be from a poorer neighbourhood at all, but your shots remind me of those who said, We grew up poor, but we didn't realize we were poor at the time. We were happy despite the deprivations. Thinking specifically of Camus in The First Man (a largely autobiographical novel) growing up in Algerian slums. When were these taken? They seem to have a 60's or 70's feel to them for some reason. And, what film did you use? They're lovely in their lack of grain, even in these rough scans (as you call them). When I see stuff like this, it reminds me that on a beautiful sunny winter Sunday, I should be out waking with the camera, shooting. So inspired, that's where I'm going now. thanks, Shel, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shootin' Kids Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:00:20 -0800 Hi gang ... Scanned a few old negs yesterday and put a couple of rough JPEGs up. They are a few of my kids pics. Work in progress ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/close1.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/close2.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/close5.jpg shel _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
On Sunday, Feb 1, 2004, at 07:19 America/New_York, Nick Clark wrote: What printer/inks/paper would you suggest for archival printing. That's always been my concern about selling inkjet prints - that they'd fade in a relatively short time. I have an Epson 1290 at present. Wilhelm Imaging Research http://www.wilhelm-research.com has some data on image permanence for certain ink sets. Their most recent report is for the Epson Ultrachrome inks published in November 1993: http://www.wilhelm-research.com/pdf/WIR_Ep9600_2003_11_01.pdf I think it's generally agreed that among the Epson photo inks, the most archival of the Epson inks is the Epson archival pigment ink set used in the 2000P, 5500, 1 etc., followed by the UltraChrome inks used in the 2100/2200, 7600, 9600. The dye-based inks used in the 1290, 1280 etc. are said to have the largest gamut but least archival. I think Epson claims up to 25 years for their dye-based inks on certain papers under certain display conditions. You might get better results from 3rd-party inks and/or papers although I'm told that Epson inks and papers are designed to work well together. Bear in mind that when they talk about the number of years before noticeable fading, it's usually under display conditions behind glass. If you store them in dark storage they will probably last longer. If there's ozone pollution the prints will fade more rapidly. --jc
Re: sunday lunchtime ramblings
Mike W. wrote: 2. My favourite for this month is Jostein's moss shot. Sharp, detailed, balanced and with a number of interpretations. Excellent view of nature. Wow, thanks, mate! FYI, the species is Racomitrium aciculare. A water-loving species found all over Scandinavia except in the mountains. I would guess you have it in Britain as well. Cheers, Jostein
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
Bambi meets Godzilla A Canadian animated short. Very short, IIRC. Thanks for reminding me about that one, Cotty! LOL! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good grief. Thanks Rebekeh for the very kind words. I'm afraid the only Bambi movie I've ever seen also featured Godzilla and the ending was rather less than happy. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: New RAW Convertor for *istD
Rob, Did you get a chance to look at SharpRaw? Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: New RAW Convertor for *istD Apparently SharpRaw has now added *istD support. A trial version is available here: http://www.logicaldesigns.com/Imaging1.htm but unfortunately it won't save anything until a license has been purchased. Will be looking at it tonight...
Snow photos - optio and *istD
Here are a few photos I took during last weekend's snowstorm with the Optio S and *istD. The Optio S photos were taken through the office windows and the car's windshield. The *istD photos were shot at 1600. You can see a bit of noise at 1:1 on the screen. I'm surprised that it doesn't show as bad on the prints. More experimenting is needed. To be fair, they were all a bit dark. I lightened them a bit so the detail was more easily seen. Not fine art, just snapshots for the curious. As I write this it's snowing again. Another 8-12 inches is predicted over today and tomorrow. Getting to work tomorrow should be interesting. See you later, gs -- George Sinos Papillion, NE e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://georgesoptions.net Photos: http://georgesphotos.net --
RE: First *ist D project
Beautiful, if not a bit disquieting. Given the close-ups, it's hard to tell how old she is, but from what I see, she seems very young (like early teens?). Putting on make-up and looking glamourous at that young (apparent) age - kind of makes me shudder. I'm not criticizing the shots at all - just telling you how they make me feel - you know, that sort of tension between she's a beautiful young lady and she's being sexual at such a young age and how ~should~ this make me feel?. But, maybe that's what you were going for? Terrific work none the less, Paul, as we all expect from you by now g. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: First *ist D project Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 00:09:51 -0500 Here's a composite of a sequence I shot today for stock. It's my first *ist D work. Some of this wold have been a lot tougher with film. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2094378size=lg _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Vs: Interesting OT: Aland and Finland (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion)
Now we got the Fins in this, could start an international incident here G Norm Raimo Korhonen wrote: Motherland Sweden? Before Finland Aland belonged to imperial Russia. Most of nowadays so called micro states are very prosperous. Yes, and Aland developing to the direction of a tax haven is no exception.
Re: Snow photos - optio and *istD
OK, the links are in my signature, but It's probably not polite to make you hunt. Here's the direct link: http://georges.smugmug.com/gallery/63585 See you later, gs : Here are a few photos I took during last weekend's snowstorm with the Optio S and *istD. The Optio S photos were taken through the office windows and the car's windshield. The *istD photos were shot at 1600. You can see a bit of noise at 1:1 on the screen. I'm surprised that it doesn't show as bad on the prints. More experimenting is needed. To be fair, they were all a bit dark. I lightened them a bit so the detail was more easily seen. Not fine art, just snapshots for the curious. As I write this it's snowing again. Another 8-12 inches is predicted over today and tomorrow. Getting to work tomorrow should be interesting. See you later, gs -- George Sinos Papillion, NE e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://georgesoptions.net Photos: http://georgesphotos.net --
Re: AP Awards 2004
On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: LOL. I agree, the Pentax looks and is a very good performer. My feeling with the E-1 is that Olympus missed a good opportunity to re-enter the professional DSLR arena. They say they are going to introduce a higher end body, but I still think that full frame sensors are the Holy Grail in 35mm type DSLRs. Sorry, that para makes no sense at all. Remove 'DSLR' from line 3. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: AP Awards 2004
On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The E-1 is a FF sensor it's just that they have adopted a new frame size. Hmm. Yes. Okay, I give up. I know what I mean but I don't know how to say it right now. Let's put it this way. E-1 quality of image and facilities of camera body are lagging behind what would be considered as state of the art WRT what most professional users require. (why do I get the feeling I'm just digging myself into a deeper hole?) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
Don't forget The Revenge of Bambi. At 11:34 AM 2/1/04, you wrote: Bambi meets Godzilla A Canadian animated short. Very short, IIRC. Thanks for reminding me about that one, Cotty! LOL! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good grief. Thanks Rebekeh for the very kind words. I'm afraid the only Bambi movie I've ever seen also featured Godzilla and the ending was rather less than happy. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: AP Awards 2004
I understand exactly what you're getting at. I think I agree. I don't think you're convincing anyone else. At 12:39 PM 2/1/04, you wrote: On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The E-1 is a FF sensor it's just that they have adopted a new frame size. Hmm. Yes. Okay, I give up. I know what I mean but I don't know how to say it right now. Let's put it this way. E-1 quality of image and facilities of camera body are lagging behind what would be considered as state of the art WRT what most professional users require. (why do I get the feeling I'm just digging myself into a deeper hole?) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Bambi meets Godzilla A Canadian animated short. Very short, IIRC. Good grief. Canadian? BTW Frank, congrats on changing the subject line - meticulous! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Shootin' Kids
Frank, I love the way you get it ... First, to the technical: Spotmatic with Super Tak 20mm/4.5 (the Dog lens), film was Plus X, don't recall the developer - maybe D-76. The scans were made on a Nikon Coolscan 4000 something or other. I can never remember the model name ... it's the one that scans at 4000dpi, and that's the resolution I used. The photos were made in 1969, taken in the school yard across from my studio and darkroom. I photographed the kids in the neighborhood a lot, and have many pics of them in a variety of situations. We lived in an inner city neighborhood ... for those who may know it, it was the Mission District in San Francisco. The neighborhood was probably lower middle class. The Camus analogy = ;-)) I relate to kids and people living in tough environments and difficult situations. Thanks for taking a moment to look, and for your comments. frank theriault wrote: Awsome shots, Shel. Of course, in a completely different category than Tan's. I love the gritty inner city feel to them. I'm always amazed that no matter where you go, kids seem to have an inherent joy in them. It's as if they have yet to be jaded by the realities of adult existence. These kids may not be from a poorer neighbourhood at all, but your shots remind me of those who said, We grew up poor, but we didn't realize we were poor at the time. We were happy despite the deprivations. Thinking specifically of Camus in The First Man (a largely autobiographical novel) growing up in Algerian slums. When were these taken? They seem to have a 60's or 70's feel to them for some reason. And, what film did you use? They're lovely in their lack of grain, even in these rough scans (as you call them). When I see stuff like this, it reminds me that on a beautiful sunny winter Sunday, I should be out waking with the camera, shooting. So inspired, that's where I'm going now.
Re: Shootin' Kids
Hi! Dave, I have experience shooting only one particular child - my daughter. Here are two links for samples grin: http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/29654 http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/28380 My daughter is 2 and 1/4 (3 months grin) years now. What I observe is this: 1. She is impossible to fix in one place. She always is on the move. 2. When she notices that I point my camera at her she normally moves towards me. So I usually do this: 1. Either distract her, say with something on TV if at home or with the help of her mother a.k.a. my wife grin 2. Or assume some distance and pre-focus somewhere where I expect her to be. It is not much advise, but this is what works in my case. My normal tool kit for such a workout is my MZ-6 with FA 50/1.7 lens. Sometimes I even had to use predictive focus which gave me good results. You know, on my level, I take time to pass my eye around the frame to see what is going on, so to say. With her, it means that I would miss most of my shots... Hence I rely on technology and rather glad I can do so. HTH. Boris. P.S. Tanya - thanks for your advise. Perhaps I will ask my wife to assist me so that we can try some of your recommendations.
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
At 12:19 PM 2/1/2004 +, you wrote: What printer/inks/paper would you suggest for archival printing. That's always been my concern about selling inkjet prints - that they'd fade in a relatively short time. I have an Epson 1290 at present. I have a friend who sells prints from his 1290 in galleries - so far he has not gotten burned. Personally, I use an Epson 2000P for prints I sell in area stores and art fairs. I've had it for almost 2.5 years, and the first prints I did with it still look great. Epson claims something like 180 years before noticeable fading with the matte paper, 150 years with the semi-gloss. However, it can be difficult to work with (limited gamut, very few paper choices) and has problems with metamerism (color hues shift depending on the color temp of the light it's observed under.) The latter is not a big problem for me due to the content of my work. If a flower, butterfly, or scenic shifts a little to the yellow or green under different light, it's barely noticeable. But I'd have second thoughts about using it for photos of people - little shifts to the green in baby portraits are _much_ more noticeable. The 2000p also can't do BW well (and in fairness to Epson, they flat out say it is not intended for BW.) I get good results setting it to print in imitation Sepia Tone via a setting buried inside the driver, but regular BW comes out looking bluish green. The Epson 2200 with the Ultrachrome inks tackles a lot of these problems - better gamut, compatible with many different papers, less metamerism, vastly improved BW, separate ink cartridges for each color, butonly a claimed 75 year archival life. If I were in the market for an inkjet today, I'd get that, but for now I don't see a need to change over from the 2000P. One thing about virtually any inkjet - once framed the inside of the glass will inevitably become fogged due to out-gassing from the inks. It's not terribly noticeable, but I usually open up the frames and clean the inside of the glass before each venue. Once you pull the glass out and hold it up to the light, you can really see the fogging. I have matted pieces inside clear cello bags - some are getting a little old too - but they seem to hold up without any fading and the bags don't seem to get foggy (though even the clearest plastic bag is foggy compared to glass.) HTH- MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
K 135mm lens
There is quite a choice of this focal length, between Takumar 2.5 through FA. Examples of the 1st in this list are appearing as cheaper alternatives on ebay, but I'm sure the pugistes have their own views on this particular 135mm vs the others. Anyone have a guide or decent URL to help choose ? I'm not too interested in macro since I've recent;y purchased ext tubes, reversing rings and the like. Thanks Ian
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
*sigh* boys. - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 11:55 AM Subject: Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Bambi meets Godzilla A Canadian animated short. Very short, IIRC. Good grief. Canadian? BTW Frank, congrats on changing the subject line - meticulous! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Street Fight
Rough edit: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/street-fight.jpg
Bike Crash
Rough edit: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/bikecrash1.jpg
Travel photography question
Later this year, I will be making a trip to Italy for the first time. In my hubris, I think I might be able to produce some saleable images while I'm there. Judging by the grainy photos that fill many of the large hardback travel picture books I've found, it appears more than a few are shot with 35mm equipment. I will like to give my work an edge by using medium format gear. The 67 would be great, of course, but I don't think I'd care for lugging it and a heavy tripod around, as this is going to be primarily a vacation. My wife is patient woman, but I seem to constant find the boundaries of that patience :) I was considering one the following kits: Pentax 645N / N-II with 45-85 Zoom Bronica RF 645 w/ 65mm and 45mm lenses Mamiya 6 w/ 75mm and 50mm lenses The Pentax would be more versatile, of course, and the autofocus would be a plus. Obviously, the Bronica and Mamiya would be lighter. Has anyone on this list used a P645 on a two to three week long vacation trip, including much walking, and found it comfortable? Aric
Re: K 135mm lens
I'm sure the pugistes have their own views on this particular 135mm vs the others. My own 135 opinions: A* 135/1.8 - a superb low-light lens. VS1 135/2.3 - a joy to use (if only the focus ring didn't turn the wrong way - g). K 135/2.5 - sweet, my most-used 135. Takumar Bayonet 135/2.5 - a pretty good lens for the money (if you don't spend too much, of course) (and if you don't really mind the silly colors on the barrel - g). A 135/2.8 - well worth selling... K 135/3.5 - nice, but I just don't get around to using it much. YMMV... Fred
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
I've had excellent results with an Epson 2000P the Epson line of papers that are recommended for it by Epson. I won the printer several years ago so I don't have any prints from it older than about 3 years. With having to prepare 35 images for a recent gallery show, I wondered about the archival aspect also. After talking with some full time outdoor pros, they convinced me to use the 2000P for my gallery images. Had over a hundred viewers @ the gallery the archival concern never surfaced. Sold about a dozen images so I guess my butt is hanging out there. If it does become an issue I'll print another image in its place. I've got conventional prints that have faded in a few years. I try not to display any image in direct sunlight. If I had to buy a new printer now I would go with the Epson 2200 (around $600) or a new bigger Epson (don't remember the designation) that does 17 wide prints. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:19 AM Subject: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!) What printer/inks/paper would you suggest for archival printing. That's always been my concern about selling inkjet prints - that they'd fade in a relatively short time. I have an Epson 1290 at present. TIA Nick -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01/02/04 02:40:46 ... If you were printing digitally at home you could have done an archival 8X10 print for about a buck or two - US. Not counting several hundred in initial outlay for the printer. Kenneth Waller
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
Mark, FWIW, I've been told that inkjet prints should be left out in the open and covered with some blank paper for several hours, immediately after printing to immunize this out-gassing effect. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!) At 12:19 PM 2/1/2004 +, you wrote: One thing about virtually any inkjet - once framed the inside of the glass will inevitably become fogged due to out-gassing from the inks. It's not terribly noticeable, but I usually open up the frames and clean the inside of the glass before each venue. Once you pull the glass out and hold it up to the light, you can really see the fogging. I have matted pieces inside clear cello bags - some are getting a little old too - but they seem to hold up without any fading and the bags don't seem to get foggy (though even the clearest plastic bag is foggy compared to glass.) HTH- MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Street Fight
I like this one! Nice composition. I like the way the girl is peeking around the corner and the smiles on her face and the kid sitting down. It balances out the potential (if not real) violence on the other side of the frame. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 2:15 PM Subject: Street Fight Rough edit: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/street-fight.jpg
Re: sunday lunchtime ramblings
Hi, Jostein wrote: Wow, thanks, mate! No, thank you. 8-) FYI, the species is Racomitrium aciculare. A water-loving species found all over Scandinavia except in the mountains. I would guess you have it in Britain as well. Not a botanist and even if I was I think I would not be that interested in Bryophytes and even if I was I would probably not be able to identify one from three spore capsules. Apparently also known as Yellow Fringe Moss, this is found found in the UK south of a line across the country half way from here to Edinburgh. Also no records from the Norfolk area. Features on one of Kew Gardens' web pages. Near the bottom. http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/visitor/francis_rose/francisrose_welcome.html Seems to be much rarer in Ireland. mike
Re: Bike Crash
Nice! I don't mind the kid on the right being cut off. It makes it look like he is fleeing the scene The kid in the lower left bothers me. He doesn't add anything to the overall image and being cropped that way looks weird. It would be hard to crop him out without ruining the fallen bike. The other thing I like is what to me look like smiles on the two kids that fell off the bike. It makes it more of a fun picture than a tragedy. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 2:15 PM Subject: Bike Crash Rough edit: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/bikecrash1.jpg
RE: AP Awards 2004
Correct! And that full frame just happens to be smaller than APS sized sensors. 4:3 does not impress me much at all. I print a lot of 4 X 6 prints and 3:2 makes a lot more sense to me. However, mine is probably a minority opinion. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 The E-1 is a FF sensor it's just that they have adopted a new frame size. Rob Studdert
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
Cotty wrote: On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Bambi meets Godzilla A Canadian animated short. Very short, IIRC. Good grief. Canadian? BTW Frank, congrats on changing the subject line - meticulous! Canada has an excellent short film industry. My favourite is Zea. mike
RE: 2.2GB MICRODRIVE HITACHI IBM MAGICSTOR
Hitachi bought the rights from IBM. I only have two caveats about Microdrives. 1. If you drop them they will probably break. 2. They use more battery power than CF cards. The BIN price on eBay looked pretty good. You need to search the web and see what they are being sold for. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Has anyone had any experience with these? As seen here on Ebay - check out the price! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2983212274categor y=50519 TIA, tan.
Re: Travel photography question
Aric, This is a Pentax list, what answer do you think we'll give? :-) In your situation, though, I think you would be happier with the lightest possible kit. Jostein - Original Message - From: Aric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 8:08 PM Subject: Travel photography question Later this year, I will be making a trip to Italy for the first time. In my hubris, I think I might be able to produce some saleable images while I'm there. Judging by the grainy photos that fill many of the large hardback travel picture books I've found, it appears more than a few are shot with 35mm equipment. I will like to give my work an edge by using medium format gear. The 67 would be great, of course, but I don't think I'd care for lugging it and a heavy tripod around, as this is going to be primarily a vacation. My wife is patient woman, but I seem to constant find the boundaries of that patience :) I was considering one the following kits: Pentax 645N / N-II with 45-85 Zoom Bronica RF 645 w/ 65mm and 45mm lenses Mamiya 6 w/ 75mm and 50mm lenses The Pentax would be more versatile, of course, and the autofocus would be a plus. Obviously, the Bronica and Mamiya would be lighter. Has anyone on this list used a P645 on a two to three week long vacation trip, including much walking, and found it comfortable? Aric
RE: New RAW Convertor for *istD
I couldn't work out how to do even simple white balance correction. The damn thing seems so fiddly to use I gave up because I really didn't have the time. Maybe soon I will have another go. Seems to ba a love it or hate it kinda product. -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2004 16:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New RAW Convertor for *istD Rob, Did you get a chance to look at SharpRaw? Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: New RAW Convertor for *istD Apparently SharpRaw has now added *istD support. A trial version is available here: http://www.logicaldesigns.com/Imaging1.htm but unfortunately it won't save anything until a license has been purchased. Will be looking at it tonight...
RE: Bike Crash
I guess other people are allowed to take bike photos on this list vbg. I love this one, though! The two children on the periphery, one just looking, the other appearing to summon help (or perhaps calling other kids over to laugh at them? g); those two make the shot. Terrific grab, Shel. thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bike Crash Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:15:43 -0800 Rough edit: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/bikecrash1.jpg _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: OT:Frank shows mock embarrasment-was: Bambi Meets Godzilla
blush The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip BTW Frank, congrats on changing the subject line - meticulous! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photospgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:19 PM 2/1/2004 +, you wrote: What printer/inks/paper would you suggest for archival printing. That's always been my concern about selling inkjet prints - that they'd fade in a relatively short time. I have an Epson 1290 at present. I have a friend who sells prints from his 1290 in galleries - so far he has not gotten burned. I'm using an Epson 1270 (earlier version of the 1290 - same inks, IIRC). For sales I make prints only on acid-free, 100% cotton rag matte paper. And I treat the prints with Lyson Print Guard. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: SharpRaw
Jostein wrote: Rob, Did you get a chance to look at SharpRaw? Cheers, Jostein I'm using SharpRaw right now. I really like the way it does sharpening. It does a great job with NO halo! Also when converting it saves *istD images at 3040x2024. I talked the the developer about this and he said that Pentax wastes bits on each side which SharpRaw does not. I'm still considering if I'm going to purchase it. I probably will though. It has a lot of other features which I have not gotten to yet. The raw sensor data is, indeed, 3040 x 2024. But both the cameras I know that use this sensor (*istD, D100) only create final images 3008 x 2008. I don't know why; perhaps the Sony sensor specs could explain it. On the other hand, though, it's hard to get 3040 x 2024 without implementing quite a lot of special-case code to deal with edge boundary conditions. A straightforward Bayer interpolation scheme will show edge effects on the two outermost pixels alomg each edge. More sophisticated schemes (such as the ones I have been playing around with) will also need a few more strips before they get into ares free of edge effects - my current favourite needs a couple of extra rows, but some need even more than that. The same is true of many other operations (such as sharpening filters). So it's easy to see why the final image size is smaller than the full raw sensor size - it eliminates any possibility of edge-induced artifacts in the image (while still allowing in-camera algorithms to be simpler). Personally I think 3032 x 2016 is quite attainable with reasonable quality, although I'd probably crop it to a true 3:2 3024 x 2016. I find the choice of 3008 x 2008 hard to explain; it's neither a true 3:2 nor an equal number of pixels trimmed off each edge.
RE: Miscellaneous Fairygirl ramblings...
How about the FA 28-200? Isn't that a re-badge of sorts? Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 The 100mm f/3.5 Macro is the only current Pentax lens that isn't made by Pentax. (It's made by Cosina and also sold under the Phoenix and Vivitar brand names. Pretty nice lens optically, according to most reports.)
Re: Archival Digital Prints (was:I Sold One!!)
I'm using an Epson 1270 (earlier version of the 1290 - same inks, IIRC). Is this dye or pigment based? For sales I make prints only on acid-free, 100% cotton rag matte paper. And I treat the prints with Lyson Print Guard. The spray or he one you apply with a brush? What can you say about it';s archivality (the print from the 1270 + Lyson's something)? TIA. regards, Lukasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] === www.fotopolis.pl === internetowy magazyn o fotografii
RE: Feb PUG
Never having seen this picture Fun at the Fountain of Jerome Reyes before, this is my top favourite amongst many good shots of this month. The expression, the position of her arms and legs, as well as the movement of the kids in the background all make this an unforgettable (and not standard) picture in my opinion. My next favourite is In the rain from Gianfranco Irlanda. And so on... Henk Terhell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feb PUG --- Fun at the Fountain by Jerome Reyes Oh, I know that expression!! Standard issue on all little girls that size! A great moment.
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla
A friend of mine had a tshirt which said Bambi Meets Godzilla and I just didn't get it.. Thanks for clearing that up Frank! Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 2:34 AM Subject: Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug Bambi meets Godzilla A Canadian animated short. Very short, IIRC. Thanks for reminding me about that one, Cotty! LOL! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good grief. Thanks Rebekeh for the very kind words. I'm afraid the only Bambi movie I've ever seen also featured Godzilla and the ending was rather less than happy. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: AustralianMBM
Kevin - apologies for the late response, have been away for a bit. That period is no good for me, I will be in China/Hong Kong at that time. Sounds like a great location if we can do it another time? Regards John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:23 AM Subject: AustralianMBM Middle Brother Mountain is one of three in a chain on Australias East Coast. The others, North Brother and South Brother are the others. So, in reply to the Grand Father Mountain, we have this. Late last year we spoke of an Australian gathering and I offered to make available my holiday apartments free of charge for PDMLers and thier families to visit. Well, the time is up to make a decision on whether to do this or choose another option. I have available the dates from 17th April - 24th April for this purpose should we decide to do it. This is the second week of school holidays for the Easter break. I need to get some response as booking are pressing for this period, I would much rather have a group of PDMLers here to enjoy some much needed photographic banter and exchange of ideas. Oh, and the holiday apartments, humble as they are, can be seen here.. http://www.oceania.net Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
*ist D Pricing News
Greetings Tanya and all Banana Bendersfrom a Crow Eaterwho lives in the Convict State.Tanya CR Kennedy's have guaranteed(on their website) to match any internet quote.here or in the U.S.etc.on the *istD and the Sigma SD 9-10.All you have to do is send an attachment of the e.g.BH quote and they will ,after conversion GST and PH is added deliver it to your door with an Australian Warranty.In other words the same as you would pay if bought o'seas.Hope this expedites your digital purchase. Regards Chris Kennedy(no relation).
RE: Feb PUG
In the rain gets my vote as well. A quiet beauty permeates much of Gianfranco's work. This, coupled with a lack of pretension on the part of the photographer, yeilds an emotional impact that you just don't see in a lot of shooting. I also confess that I found annsan's picture most striking - the underexposure works to its advantage, and I almost believed they were real horses in there. Quoting Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My next favourite is In the rain from Gianfranco Irlanda. And so on... - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
OT:Sunday camera shop gossip and rumours
Hi Gang. I was in one of the satellite Henrys stores today(newmarket ontario) to but some BW paper,yea thats right,darkroom stuff:-) and to look at the *istD and the D100. I was looking at the displays and some one was looking at the * but no D100 to be found.I over heard the 3 sales people mention that now that Nikon has stopped selling the D100 and will introduce the D70?? a price war could,should start. I started to talk to them about it and apparantly the stop was pretty quick.Most stores have a waiting list to finish out sales and the Nikon reps were taking stock from stores not moving a lot to the stores that needed them. I was kinda shocked as i thought the D100 and *istD were what the general shooting public were looking for. Well to make a long story short,,never had a chance to try the *istD, BUT, I'm getting a chance to try the D2h next weekend.I would like to try both at the same time and compare on my computer and printer. All this from a 2 minute shopping spree for paper.LOL.Now i know why my SO hates when i go shooping. Dave BTW set up the P-400 and did a 4x6 test print.Just beaytifull.No dots under the 8x loupe.Looks just a s good as my 1 hour place.(oh wait,that could be bad.lol)
pentax as an innovator, and quality
John wrote: How long did it take for Pentax to introduce a real auto-focus camera? Uh? They released the first AF 35mm slr. It might not been real but the first real Pentax AF slr was introduced at the same time as Canon introduced their first real AF system. The SF-1 worked as well as my Nikon 8008, AFwise. Of course, it could be argued that the Nikon's first real AF SLR was the N90. How long before their first digital SLR body? Until it could be done cheaply enough to sell to Pentax users. The MZ-D would have been a non-starter, as Contax apparently found out. It could be argued that the first real DSLR has yet to be released by anyone. On what grounds? The Canon EOS-1D (even the old one) and Nikon D2h are better CAMERAS than ANY film SLR made by ANY manufacturer in most if not all respects. Pentax just aren't set up to be innovators nowadays. Nonsense. It is just the level at which the innovations are introduced. Pentax did not introduce internal motors, image stabilization, or diffractive optics (all Canon), nor lenses optimized for DSLR sensor sizes (Nikon). These are in keeping with the pro-orientations of these companies. Pentax, as I recall, led the fashion for chrome-colored plastic cameras, and for the return of semi-analog controls. The *istD was the first small DSLR, and Pentax was for a while marketing the smallest digital PS using clever expanding internal optical systems. I think the FA limiteds came out before Nikon's retro 45mm lens, and nobody is producing anything like the ltds (Leicas don't AF!). They're not really pro lenses because very few pros shoot 31 or 77mm, but the optics are supposedly top notch. The slanted top on the MZ-S (?) was a pentax innovation. The 17-35 (?) fisheye zoom is pretty much unique. Not all innovation is good, either. Pentax led in power-zoom, and those damn shutter speed buttons on the ME super and Super Program (which might have made the cameras cheaper to make, but I found them harder to use). And, I would love to hear anyone's views on those two questions that Shel has posted... ie. a) What are the differences in quality (optically) in Nikon, Canon and Pentax lenses? b) Are the differences great? I really wonder this as from my research, I have found that in Australia at least, when purchasing lenses new, Canon and Nikon lenses are far more expensive than their Pentax equivalents. Is this just because of their name or is this due to build and optical quality etc? People have heard my opinions on this. N and C are better at the pro level because that's what they do well and where their market is.This may be a recent thing. There has been a lot of evolution at N and C in the last five years, lenswise. N and C are worse at the entry level because it isn't what they do well but they'd love to have a market there. If there is any middle left in the market (it's hard to sell a $500 SLR in today's world of digital and video) I'm not sure how things stack up there. There isn't a lot of range in most manufacturer's lines anymore. At the bottom, higher N and C prices are probably because of the name because the build quality is lousy, although Canon puts internal motors in all of its lenses and Nikon is starting to. That adds value. At the top of its line, Pentax is actually more expensive (around here) because of low volume (or perhaps higher quality control, which has apparently had some slips at Nikon lately). DJE
why 28-80?
Ok, I seem to have started or contributed to a discussion about the merits of 28-80 lenses, which is fine. Ironically, I have used the only 28-85 I own about twice. Until last year I was an all-primes shooter, and still am on the Pentax front. I singled out this focal length because I was originally looking for a lens to go on my mother's ME Super to replace that awful 28-80 (?) Takumar A lens that somehow came into our possession. It was big, clunky, and practically a soft-focus lens. So, I looked at the long list of comments by PDMLers about lenses in this focal length and found nothing that people raved about, except the 28-80/2.8 (?) which was out of my price range and my mother's shleppage weight. This was distressing as I didn't want to buy a third party lens since they usually focus backwards. On the other hand, it wasn't too suprising as from what I can see most cameras are sold with a 28-80 kind of zoom as the standard lens these days and to keep the package price down the starter lens is usually mediocre at best. It's a far cry from the days of 50/2.0 lenses that you could shave with. I eventually bought the 28-105/3.2-4.5, which I shot with for a week to make sure it wasn't a lemon. It's small, light, and capable. I never actually tested it scientifically to see how it fared compared to the above-mentioned 28-85 (nikkor, an old AIS design in AF clothing) or any of the primes in that range, but I had no reservations giving it to my mother. It's worth noting that I didn't even consider anything with a telephoto end slower than f/4.5, so I might have overlooked some lenses that were fine optically. I've got biases there as all my pro glass is f/2.8 or faster and always has been. DJE
Re: Miscellaneous Fairygirl ramblings...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:29:42 +1000, you wrote: As far as lenses go, like I said, it would totally suck to have to buy all new glass and flash guns, but OTOH, in the long run, I need to give my clients the best quality shots that I can afford, and the Canon and Nikkor lenses aren't exactly lacking in the quality stakes... Or are they? Last I heard, and that was a year ago reading lots of DPreview.com forum messages, the Fuji S2 supposed to be the wedding photographer's DSLR of choice, because of good skin tones and sharpening right out of the camera. Eliminating post-processing was thought to be critical to even bothering to use a DSLR at weddings. With film, the negs would be fixed by the lab; with the D100 or D60 (at the time the competition) the post-processing time would be much greater than the S2. But weddings are not my bag. I got tricked into doing one once, before I knew anything about photography except how to push the shutter button, and I've never recovered from it. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Scanning Question
Hi Jeff ... I did some scanning this weekend and the experience was a little different than your explanation. Using the Nikon 4000dpi scanner allows for 14 bit greyscale, not 16 bit. Perhaps not a significant difference. Tiff clearly supports (or at least allows files) in the 14 bit (16 bit) range. Unfortunately, in order to do any serious photoshop work, the files must be converted to 8 bit. This is in PS 7.0 ... maybe other software allows more flexibility at 16 bit. Still, a number of corrections and modifications can be made in the 16 bit format, but using layers is out gotta convert to 8 bit for that. RGB scanning is definitely not worth the effort with a scanner like the Nikon (or similar/better scanners) from what I can see. The image is definitely muddier to my eye and has to be converted to greyscale anyway. It seems that the converted image from RGB to greyscale does not look as good as one scanned directly in greyscale. The waste of disk space is substantial. The 14 bit greyscale scans yield 40+ mb files. The rgb scans yields 135+ mb ... definitely not worth it for the results obtained. Thanks for your advice and suggestions. shel belinkoff Jeff Jonsson wrote: Actually being a scanning expert for my job I will try a response... The Imacon Flextight is essentially a drum scanner, and as such has a pretty good DMAX, 4.6 for the 646 to be precise. And, I'm not sure (because it doesn't say in the BH big book) but I think it can do up to 16-bit grayscale. Of course TIFF only supports 8-bit grayscale, so if you're scanning with TIFF files as your format of choice for the end-result file, I wouldn't scan in RGB. You'll end up with a file that's more than 3 times as large, and won't really gain any tonality you won't get with a 16, or even 12 bit grayscale image. Obviously you can only work with the 12 or 16 bit in Photoshop, and save as PSD, but if you're down-converting to 8-bit grayscale for your TIFF, then scanning in RGB is overkill by an order of magnitude. The Nikon Coolscan 8000 scans at 4000dpi, and again, can produce a 12-bit grayscale image. Also, it has a DMAX of 4.2, it should pull out quite a bit of shadow detail. My opinion, as someone who has overseen the scanning of over 20,000 grayscale images at high resolution, RGB is just not useful, and you won't get a better tonal range by doing it. In fact, if anything, you'll just get a muddier image, and waste disk space. Shel, please contact me directly if you need any more advice. I work at the Marriott Library, at the University of Utah in the Digital Technologies division. One of my primary job duties is managing workflow of large-scale scanning operations. If you want to see some of our output visit this website: http://www.lib.utah.edu/digital/digcol.html Here at my shop, we use the Nikon Coolscan 8000, a Coolscan LS-2000, two CreoScitex Eversmart Jazz+ flatbeds (true 2900 dpi across a 16x20 bed), a Leica S1 Digital scanning camera (effective 25MP) a Zeutschel 1 A1 bookscanner, and some other assorted scanning devices, so I have some pretty good experience with high end equipment. Thanks, Jeff Jonsson Digitization Systems Analyst, Marriott Library 801.585.5587 -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:01 PM To: PDML Subject: Scanning Question Hi gang ... Over the next few weeks I'm going to attempt scanning a lot of conventional BW negs. I have heard a number of conflicting opinions on the best way to do this. Most comments center around whether to scan in RGB or greyscale. Greyscale would be nice as I could save some space, but if RBG will give higher quality results, I'll bite the bullet. I have scanned using both methods before, although with the help of a friend who did most of the work and setup, so I'm still pretty much uneducated and inexperienced wrt the subtleties. Scanners used will be an Imacon Flextight 626 (I believe that's the number) and the Nikon Coolscan IV 4000dpi unit, if that makes any difference. Thanks for any help, shel
Re: *ist D Pricing News
No kidding Chris! Any internet quote? How did you find this out? Regards, Ryan in Brissie - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: *ist D Pricing News Greetings Tanya and all Banana Bendersfrom a Crow Eaterwho lives in the Convict State.Tanya CR Kennedy's have guaranteed(on their website) to match any internet quote.here or in the U.S.etc.on the *istD and the Sigma SD 9-10.All you have to do is send an attachment of the e.g.BH quote and they will ,after conversion GST and PH is added deliver it to your door with an Australian Warranty.In other words the same as you would pay if bought o'seas.Hope this expedites your digital purchase. Regards Chris Kennedy(no relation).
Re: more *ist D pricing news...
Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as a put down, it is just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will call you all kinds of nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness probably comes from have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: My name is Tanya Mayer and I am a professional photographer located in Australia (www.tanyamayer.com). I am writing as I am wishing to purchase a Pentax *istD with DA 16-45mm lens. This morning, I was made aware of the following, just released from the Pentax USA website: http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=174 In a nutshell, it says: PENTAX U.S.A., Inc. has reduced the retail price of the*ist D Digital SLR by $300. The legendary camera manufacturer also is offering consumers an additional $200 cash back when combined with the purchase of the PENTAX 16-45mm DA digital lens. These special savings are in effect February 1, 2004 through June 30, 2004. I am writing to ask when I may expect to see these prices reflected in those listed on your website, and also, if I were to purchase from here in Australia, would I be eligible for the US$200 cash back? I really want to purchase this prior to the end of this month, so any information that you could offer would be most appreciated. This is what I got back from each of them... Adorama - Sorry not yet maybe in a couple of weeks B and H - Hello, IST D DIGITAL CAMERA $1699.95 $1349.95 The lens is not available yet. Hmmm, great customer relations eh? So, it looks like I am going to have to hold out for a while longer... I was thinking that some of you may be saying to yourselves girl, just go and buy the bloody thing, it's only $300 etc, BUT the US$300 and the US$200 rebate translate to $657 at today's exchange rate, and this could very well be the difference between me being able to afford to come to GFM or not! Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the shortness of both of their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for your enquiry or whatever... I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now to see what they have to say... tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than she has to for it!* -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: more *ist D pricing news...
Actually - think about the time, place, and circumstances. 1. Most places here in the States don't fully staff on weekends. Particularly Sundays. Particularly Super Bowl Sunday. If retail, the sales people are there, but not necessarily the big guys. Sunday-Monday in Oz is only Saturday-Sunday in the Big Apple. Both BH and Adorama observe the Jewish Sabbath (Saturday on the common calendar), that is the only reason you got an answer on Sunday at all. 2. The East Coast has been getting hammered with snow, ice, and cold. 3. Pentax announced this on Friday. Do you suppose they gave advance notice of the pricing shift to area reps? Do you suppose the reps had a chance to discuss the implications with all of their major accounts? 4. See note 1 above. Do you think the sales reps were working this weekend? See note 2. I think you should be quite pleased that you received any answer at all! Really remarkable under the circumstances. Patience is a virtue... Stan graywolf wrote: Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as a put down, it is just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will call you all kinds of nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness probably comes from have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: My name is Tanya Mayer and I am a professional photographer located in Australia (www.tanyamayer.com). I am writing as I am wishing to purchase a Pentax *istD with DA 16-45mm lens. This morning, I was made aware of the following, just released from the Pentax USA website: http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=174 In a nutshell, it says: PENTAX U.S.A., Inc. has reduced the retail price of the*ist D Digital SLR by $300. The legendary camera manufacturer also is offering consumers an additional $200 cash back when combined with the purchase of the PENTAX 16-45mm DA digital lens. These special savings are in effect February 1, 2004 through June 30, 2004. I am writing to ask when I may expect to see these prices reflected in those listed on your website, and also, if I were to purchase from here in Australia, would I be eligible for the US$200 cash back? I really want to purchase this prior to the end of this month, so any information that you could offer would be most appreciated. This is what I got back from each of them... Adorama - Sorry not yet maybe in a couple of weeks B and H - Hello, IST D DIGITAL CAMERA $1699.95 $1349.95 The lens is not available yet. Hmmm, great customer relations eh? So, it looks like I am going to have to hold out for a while longer... I was thinking that some of you may be saying to yourselves girl, just go and buy the bloody thing, it's only $300 etc, BUT the US$300 and the US$200 rebate translate to $657 at today's exchange rate, and this could very well be the difference between me being able to afford to come to GFM or not! Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the shortness of both of their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for your enquiry or whatever... I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now to see what they have to say... tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than she has to for it!*
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
I'm not, picture Bambi meet Godzilla. Arm Bambi to the teeth, crossed bandoleers, pistol belt rifle slung around his neck, bazooka balanced on his back wearing a British WWI/WWII helmet in mortal combat with Godzilla... The result, I'll leave to your imagination. The animation style is the same, so I think they were produced by the same artists. At 03:57 PM 2/1/04, you wrote: On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Don't forget The Revenge of Bambi. You are kidding me. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: Scanning Question
On 1 Feb 2004 at 19:17, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Tiff clearly supports (or at least allows files) in the 14 bit (16 bit) range. Unfortunately, in order to do any serious photoshop work, the files must be converted to 8 bit. This is in PS 7.0 ... maybe other software allows more flexibility at 16 bit. Still, a number of corrections and modifications can be made in the 16 bit format, but using layers is out gotta convert to 8 bit for that. The ADC (analogue to digital convertor) in the camera is only 14bit precision however TIFF files need to be multiples of 8bit therefore data is padded with zeros to make it 16 bits. PS 7 works in full 16 bit only with a limited number of tools and filters, Pshop CS works entirely in 16 bit mode. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
I've never seen that one but considering the second I'm not surprised. At 04:41 PM 2/1/04, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Don't forget The Revenge of Bambi. You are kidding me. That the one where Bambi fires a tactical nuke at Godzilla. Classic theatre of the absurd. William Robb I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
RE: Miscellaneous Fairygirl ramblings...
It's no longer current. Tamron is making a new version and Pentax USA no longer lists it on it's web page. It's a good bet that the only way you could get it new is new old stock. At 05:17 PM 2/1/04, you wrote: How about the FA 28-200? Isn't that a re-badge of sorts? Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 The 100mm f/3.5 Macro is the only current Pentax lens that isn't made by Pentax. (It's made by Cosina and also sold under the Phoenix and Vivitar brand names. Pretty nice lens optically, according to most reports.) I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: First *ist D project
It's not how old the woman is it's how old you think she is that makes you a dirty old man. You should know that. At 05:31 PM 2/1/04, frank theriault wrote: Hi, Paul, Well, you gor me, all right! vbg At least I dont' feel like a dirty old man any more... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: First *ist D project Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 16:31:07 -0500 Hi Frank, Gorcha! Amy, the young lady in the pictures is 32 years old. She's an art director at the agency where I work. She models for me quite often. In fact she was in the PUG. I think the shot, a portrait, was called Pretty. The creamy complexion that the gaussian blur creates contributes to the youthful feeling, but she certainly doesn't look her age. Paul On Feb 1, 2004, at 11:44 AM, frank theriault wrote: Beautiful, if not a bit disquieting. Given the close-ups, it's hard to tell how old she is, but from what I see, she seems very young (like early teens?). Putting on make-up and looking glamourous at that young (apparent) age - kind of makes me shudder. I'm not criticizing the shots at all - just telling you how they make me feel - you know, that sort of tension between she's a beautiful young lady and she's being sexual at such a young age and how ~should~ this make me feel?. But, maybe that's what you were going for? Terrific work none the less, Paul, as we all expect from you by now g. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: First *ist D project Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 00:09:51 -0500 Here's a composite of a sequence I shot today for stock. It's my first *ist D work. Some of this wold have been a lot tougher with film. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2094378size=lg _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en- caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgma rket%3den-ca _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: *ist D Pricing News
Thanks Chris, I have already approached them about it, I've known about this for some time now (thanks for taking the time to offer the info though!). Ryan - it is on their website, but it isn't exactly true. I sent them that site that was advertising it for US$1100 a few weeks back and the best offer they could give me, although cheaper than anyone else in Aus., was still just over $2k. With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark (and if I do it cleverly enough, I should be able to avoid the GST too), and I am waiting for CR Kennedy to respond to my observations of this in an email that I sent them yesterday. Rob (Studdert) recently enabled himself this way (via CR Kennedy) and paid alot more for his than what they offered me only a few days later, so with the now official price drop, I am hoping that they have some better news for me today... I am currently planning the purchase from the US with the assistance of another PDML'er, but warranty is a big concern so I won't be going ahead with it until I know for sure that it will be Australian based. I will let you all know how it pans out...! tan. - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 1:17 PM Subject: Re: *ist D Pricing News No kidding Chris! Any internet quote? How did you find this out? Regards, Ryan in Brissie - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: *ist D Pricing News Greetings Tanya and all Banana Bendersfrom a Crow Eaterwho lives in the Convict State.Tanya CR Kennedy's have guaranteed(on their website) to match any internet quote.here or in the U.S.etc.on the *istD and the Sigma SD 9-10.All you have to do is send an attachment of the e.g.BH quote and they will ,after conversion GST and PH is added deliver it to your door with an Australian Warranty.In other words the same as you would pay if bought o'seas.Hope this expedites your digital purchase. Regards Chris Kennedy(no relation).
*istD Pricing news
Hi Ryan,If you go to CRKennedy's website www.crkennedy.com.au and goto the index at their home page,they guarantee to match any legitimate web quote.So if you get a quote from Adorama,i,e, the final amount shown on the checkout list.download it and forward it as an attachment to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,that should do the trick.Keep in mind their offer is after conversion to australian dollars including shipping and handling plus GST,.The y will deliver to your door and you have an Australian Warranty. Regards Chris.
Ebays I have won, or, I need an American address.
Hi, I recently won a couple of ebay auctions, and may need an American address for shipping purposes. The generous respondent will be forwarding a parcel to me in Canada. As generosity should only extend so far, I am prepared to renumerate a reasonable gratuity in addition to the postage costs. Please respond to me off list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are able to help out. Thanks William Robb
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
Sounds like Wheatfield's bazooka carrying prairie dogs. Bill - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug I'm not, picture Bambi meet Godzilla. Arm Bambi to the teeth, crossed bandoleers, pistol belt rifle slung around his neck, bazooka balanced on his back wearing a British WWI/WWII helmet in mortal combat with Godzilla... The result, I'll leave to your imagination. The animation style is the same, so I think they were produced by the same artists. At 03:57 PM 2/1/04, you wrote: On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Don't forget The Revenge of Bambi. You are kidding me. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: OT: Bambi Meets Godzilla - was: February Pug Sounds like Wheatfield's bazooka carrying prairie dogs. Where do you think they got the idea? WW
Re: Pentax lowers *ist D price
Sounds suspiciously close to the price someone mentioned Adorama as having, that they would not honor. Got a little ahead of themselves with the advertising do you suppose? They advertised at 1325, said it was supposed to be 1725 and offered me a special price of 1625... Hopefully, I denied the special treatment... Dpreview estimates a 1630 street price. Andre
might be SMC?
I was going through my takumar screw-mount lenses trying to put rough dates on them, to figure out if any of them are as old as the yet-undated spotmatic I asked about. Some of them are, in fact, older than I am. Based on serial numbers, I also have an interesting case. I have a 24/3.5 Super Takumar serial number 4420441. According to Gerjan van Oosten's authoritative book By the time serial numbers had reached 440 virtually all lenses were of the SMC type. Yet, this lens has no light-meter cam or pin, and the part number on the Auto/Man lever is 43961 which is correct for the Super Takumar version. Clearly it is a Super Takumar. Might it be multi-coated anyway, as some of the last Super Takumars apparently were? I can't see anything obvious, except perhaps an ABSENCE of color on the glass when I hold it angles to the light, but then again I can't really see the difference between my SMC Takumar 28/3.5 and its Super Takumar brother that way either. DJE
Re: Ebays I have won, or, I need an American address.
How could I know William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] would say: Hi, I recently won a couple of ebay auctions, and may need an American address for shipping purposes. The generous respondent will be forwarding a parcel to me in Canada. As generosity should only extend so far, I am prepared to renumerate a reasonable gratuity in addition to the postage costs. I also have by-passed auctions because they are stamped Will deliver to United States only. I think a quick person could set themselves up for a small profit if they wanted to beging a eBay forwarding service from the US. Just a thought Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: *ist D Pricing News
This one time, at band camp, Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark Isnt duty applicable on these? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: *ist D Pricing News
I'm guessing it probably is a bit of a gamble. Some vendors do help you though.. I just spent about AUD300 on a Singh Ray filter and they were nice enough to declare it '$0/commercial sample' on the little green label. Doubt BH would be as matesy though.. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:44 PM Subject: Re: *ist D Pricing News With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark Isnt duty applicable on these? Kind regards Kevin
Re: *ist D Pricing News
At 04:44 PM 2/02/2004 +1100, you wrote: This one time, at band camp, Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark Isnt duty applicable on these? NO It used to be a case of (I think) 22% sales tax and 32% duty. Now it is just 10% GST, but it includes the PH - 10% on the total amount that you paid. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ebays I have won, or, I need an American address.
G'day All. There is already a company providing an Ebay forwarding service. However, You have to register and pay a large yearly subscription fee. They also charge like wounded bulls for the service. I looked at it last year but decided against it. For the life on me, I cannot remember what they were called. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton. OZ -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2 February 2004 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ebays I have won, or, I need an American address. How could I know William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] would say: Hi, I recently won a couple of ebay auctions, and may need an American address for shipping purposes. The generous respondent will be forwarding a parcel to me in Canada. As generosity should only extend so far, I am prepared to renumerate a reasonable gratuity in addition to the postage costs. I also have by-passed auctions because they are stamped Will deliver to United States only. I think a quick person could set themselves up for a small profit if they wanted to beging a eBay forwarding service from the US. Just a thought Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: February PUG is open
Great! - I've really been unable to read much on list and that may continue for a few days - Real life is very compelling just now ... but thanks of course to you who liked my horses -- I have not even seen the PUG yet myself (as I said, real life is being compelling!) so wish dispensation if any of ya have addrssed anything to me only on the PDML about _anything_ and I haven't answered -- the folder is off by itself and I miss a lot because of it. I'm totally crazed, kids -- so you can all talk behind my back now I'm only half here! annsan
Re: OT: I Sold One!!
Frank, that is super! congrats -- hope ya get lots more - then yo can buy me TWO cups of tea in GFM :) annsan frank theriault wrote: l. Best of all, I sold one! How cool is that? Not only did he buy it, he paid in advance, from his wallet, cash, last night. He may (he said) buy more, but only had the cash on hand to pay for one. He bought this one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2069017 Lots of attention given to the Asian Girl (or whatever one wishes to call it). Concensus was that it's the strongest of the 11, and it's my favourite anyway (which is why I printed that one up to 11x14, while the rest are 8x10. Sounds like several people are considering buying that one.
Re: Scanning Question
My Leicas and Pentaxes use film. Ain't nothing digital about 'em, so i doubt they'd have some kind of converter. Rob Studdert wrote: On 1 Feb 2004 at 19:17, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Tiff clearly supports (or at least allows files) in the 14 bit (16 bit) range. Unfortunately, in order to do any serious photoshop work, the files must be converted to 8 bit. This is in PS 7.0 ... maybe other software allows more flexibility at 16 bit. Still, a number of corrections and modifications can be made in the 16 bit format, but using layers is out gotta convert to 8 bit for that. The ADC (analogue to digital convertor) in the camera is only 14bit precision however TIFF files need to be multiples of 8bit therefore data is padded with zeros to make it 16 bits. PS 7 works in full 16 bit only with a limited number of tools and filters, Pshop CS works entirely in 16 bit mode.
