Re: Questions About Early Pentax Lenses
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Andre Langevin Subject: Re: Questions About Early Pentax Lenses But were the Takumar lenses coated inside the doublets, who can answer that? More to the point, why would they be? William Robb For the same reason as the glass/air surfaces. You get the same problem, whatever the interface. mike
Re: Most famous Pentax users ever
Bob W wrote: He must be deliberately laying a false trail to throw us all off the scent. -- Cheers, Bob Or he's so sozzled he's picked up the wrong camera out of the celebrity camera cloakroom. -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 June 2005 03:45 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Most famous Pentax users ever On 6/7/05, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a picture of Ringo and his camera: http://www.harrowtechnical.co.uk/finding_us.html That certainly is Ringo. And, it certainly is a Pentax 35mm SLR he's holding. But, it isn't the exact one he used in Hard Day's Night, as that one was black. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re[2]: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5
Hello, Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 12:13:09 AM, you wrote: PJA They're both well thought of the M is much smaller has a built in lens PJA hood so it's a bit more convenient. The K is bigger and heavier, is a PJA simpler optical formula and has a reputation for having the edge in PJA sharpness and contrast. So as I understand K version of the lense is not so good as M version. Do I understand You correct? PJA It's also a bit more difficult to find but few PJA know just how good it is, it was a bargain lens when it was PJA introduced, so you might pick one up inexpensively. PJA I have a copy of PJA the K version that I almost never use since I picked up the K 135 f2.5. I'm little a bit confused about all answers. So, whcih one produces better picture? If both of the version 'M' and 'K' will have the same price, which one You'll buy? Thanks. -- Best regards, daomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 12:13:09 AM, you wrote: PJA They're both well thought of the M is much smaller has a built in lens PJA hood so it's a bit more convenient. The K is bigger and heavier, is a PJA simpler optical formula and has a reputation for having the edge in PJA sharpness and contrast. So as I understand K version of the lense is not so good as M version. Do I understand You correct? No, to have the edge means to be better, though not by much. I'm little a bit confused about all answers. So, whcih one produces better picture? If both of the version 'M' and 'K' will have the same price, which one You'll buy? Because I am strange, I would always go for the K. So I did. In this case, judging from the comments in Stan's site, it is justified to go for it if you don't mind the (slightly) extra weight/size. As for the built in hood, they are never worth it, in my opinion. I have the clip-on hood for the K and it has a nice feel; I bet it is also longer than the built-in of the M, while not vignetting. Kostas
Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case
C I think the only possible problem - and it is very slight indeed - is C from mites. Small bugs that can infest the material used to cover the OMG! They won't eat my pixels, will they ??? Good light! fra
Re: Greetings from Portugal
From: Joaquim Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 09:00:59 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Greetings from Portugal Hi, I have 2 pentax cameras I love very much: an *ist DS I bought 4 months ago and a MX (that came as the rear cap for a M 50mm F1.7 I bought on Ebay). This list's archive has been very helpfull to me for the last few months, now I'm subscribing. You'll be sorry 8-) Greetings from sunny Sunderland, North-East England. mike - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: SMC 70-210mm F4 help
Which screw does this refer to? (I can see quite a few when I roll back the sleeve) Zoom-creep is the nature of this zoom. It can be cured by using heavier damping grease, but none of the screws are related to this creeping. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html
Color shifting
I have a few F and FA SMC zoom lenses: FA 28-70 F4 F 35-70 3.5-4.5 F 28-80 3.5-4.5 FA 28-80 3.5-5.6 I've been comparing them on the *ist DS at 70mm wide open and on all of them I found that the color of a distant colorfull object also appears on the left of the object. Surprisingly the FA 28-80 3.5-5.6 is the best but then it's at F5.6. Is this an issue of these lenses or of the camera's CCD? This does not happen at all with my older A70-210mm F4 and A35-105mm F3.5 lenses.
Re: I'm a VERY BAD boy!!!
Yes, she is beautiful. Congratulations. :) YW On 6/7/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lookie what.. I ..just ...did! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7521917207 Gonna be selling a few things real soon. But ain't she gorgeous? Don
Re[3]: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5
Hello Kostas, KK No, to have the edge means to be better, though not by much. Thanks for explanation! I was little a bit confused with the edge as in the dictionary I can find two completely different meaning of this word :) (I'm from Ukraine so English is not my native language). I'm little a bit confused about all answers. So, whcih one produces better picture? If both of the version 'M' and 'K' will have the same price, which one You'll buy? KK Because I am strange, I would always go for the K. So I did. In this KK case, judging from the comments in Stan's site, it is justified to go KK for it if you don't mind the (slightly) extra weight/size. KK As for the built in hood, they are never worth it, in my opinion. I KK have the clip-on hood for the K and it has a nice feel; I bet it is KK also longer than the built-in of the M, while not vignetting. Thank You veru much againe. I felt that K versions are almost slightly better then others (i.e. regarding K28/3.5 and M28/3.5 and others 28). I just worried about built-in hood as well as simpler optical formula (4-4 instead of 5-5 in M version). Thank You! -- Best regards, daomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I think i'm the last GFMer to check in
On 7/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Nasty wet weather from Wednesday till Friday night (see Cotty you should have come. You would have felt right at home vbg) Har!! (says he sitting in shorts with warm sunshine everywhere here ) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
OT - ground zero in a tornado - video
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0506/feature6/multimedia.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Mirror lenses DS
SP The only lens that I know of and that gives 99% natural out of focus areas SP is Minolta 135 STF with apodization filter and two diaphragms - here is SP review of this extraordinary lens with some samples: SP http://www.magnuswedberg.com/docs/STF-review/ Now that's very interesting! I wouldn't say it gives a natural Boke, IMHO there is no thing as natural Boke, or is there? Is one curve of transition from light to dark better than other? Is a diagonal curve better than exponential? Or natural boke could also be one that doesn't curve at all, which is just a flat same-shade disk... So what's natural? But I digress :) The idea of putting a graduated filter in the nodal point of the lens to achieve the gradation of the OOF areas is neat. Although I am thinking if the similar hadn't been done before with gradual Waterhouse stops. Ok now, I could imagine a DIY project... Botching a long-focus 80mm symmetrical lens and adding such a graduated stop!!! Frantisek
Re: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case
From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 09:31:01 GMT To: Cotty pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case C I think the only possible problem - and it is very slight indeed - is C from mites. Small bugs that can infest the material used to cover the OMG! They won't eat my pixels, will they ??? These are light mites. You are thinking of pixel pixies. Similar to flash fairies but more blocky looking. Good light! fra - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: Re[3]: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 09:51:57 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re[3]: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5 Hello Kostas, KK No, to have the edge means to be better, though not by much. Thanks for explanation! I was little a bit confused with the edge as in the dictionary I can find two completely different meaning of this word :) (I'm from Ukraine so English is not my native language). Which part of Ukraine? I'm working with an organisation from Kremenchug but have not yet had the opportunity to visit. I'm little a bit confused about all answers. So, whcih one produces better picture? If both of the version 'M' and 'K' will have the same price, which one You'll buy? KK Because I am strange, I would always go for the K. So I did. In this KK case, judging from the comments in Stan's site, it is justified to go KK for it if you don't mind the (slightly) extra weight/size. KK As for the built in hood, they are never worth it, in my opinion. I KK have the clip-on hood for the K and it has a nice feel; I bet it is KK also longer than the built-in of the M, while not vignetting. Thank You veru much againe. I felt that K versions are almost slightly better then others (i.e. regarding K28/3.5 and M28/3.5 and others 28). I just worried about built-in hood as well as simpler optical formula (4-4 instead of 5-5 in M version). Thank You! -- Best regards, daomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html Tom Reese
Re: OT - ground zero in a tornado - video
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 10:32:38 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT - ground zero in a tornado - video http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0506/feature6/multimedia.html Cheers, Cotty This guy was on UK tv a few weeks ago. His still camera rig was, unfortunately, smashed to bits. ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re[5]: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5
Hello Mike, Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 1:48:50 PM, you wrote: mw Which part of Ukraine? I'm working with an organisation from mw Kremenchug but have not yet had the opportunity to visit. I live in the west of Ukraine - in Ternopil. Kremenchug is in the center of Ukraine - Poltava region. You may look at the map of Ukraine to find the cities. If You'd like to visit Ukraine - You are wellcome! Jurij -- Best regards, daomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Color shifting
Hi! I have a few F and FA SMC zoom lenses: FA 28-70 F4 F 35-70 3.5-4.5 F 28-80 3.5-4.5 FA 28-80 3.5-5.6 I've been comparing them on the *ist DS at 70mm wide open and on all of them I found that the color of a distant colorfull object also appears on the left of the object. Surprisingly the FA 28-80 3.5-5.6 is the best but then it's at F5.6. Is this an issue of these lenses or of the camera's CCD? This does not happen at all with my older A70-210mm F4 and A35-105mm F3.5 lenses. I have FA 28-70/4 AL... I've never noticed anything like you described... Next time I will definitely look closer... -- Boris
Re: Re[5]: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 11:01:34 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re[5]: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5 Hello Mike, Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 1:48:50 PM, you wrote: mw Which part of Ukraine? I'm working with an organisation from mw Kremenchug but have not yet had the opportunity to visit. I live in the west of Ukraine - in Ternopil. Kremenchug is in the center of Ukraine - Poltava region. You may look at the map of Ukraine to find the cities. If You'd like to visit Ukraine - You are wellcome! Jurij I intend to get there some time next year. Looking forward to it. mike -- Best regards, daomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
CNN failed to provide a photo. Fox delivers: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158841,00.html On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html Tom Reese -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Most famous Pentax users ever
On 7/6/05, glenn murphy, discombobulated, unleashed: I just read a NY Times article (free registration required) I think not :-) http://bugmenot.com/ Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Behind (Norwegian fjord)
On 8/6/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Thought I might give you people an idea why we are so twisted here in this cold north http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=179132 My first picture published at the web. Besides concert pictures at my site www.ethnobase.org (it is down at the moment) Comments appreciated. W, bleak! I like the navigation pylon placement. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Concerning Tokina ATX 80-400 F4.5-5.6
Any users of this AF lens here? Sincerely, Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 8/6/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html aka Brad Dobo! shiver Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: GFM Pix Part II
- Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: GFM Pix Part II Wheatfield and Roberts, to each other: He's so full of crap!: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434081size=lg Hey! who has the Sigma 300/4 (lower right). Christian Saw this in the archives. I'ts mine Christian. Shot 95% of the weekend with it. Had a quick look at the Raw downloads late last night, and all but a few of the wildlife shots look clear and sharp. I think the ones that were not were when i had a program setting early Sunday and it set up a low shutter speed. Lens works well with the istD and focus is fast and accurate. Oh well. I have a few good ones to share. Dave Brooks
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html Tom Reese I don't see what the problem was. He killed the guy in Canada. It's not like he was going to use the bloodied weapons to do bad stuff in the US. I also don't know what the problem was with the 'Murricans at the border letting Dave and me in. When they saw the camera gear, and asked us what it was for, we said that we were going to various nuclear power facilities and military bases along the east coast to photograph them for posterity, but then I yelled, JUST JOKING! They got real testy after that. Go figure... -knarf -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
Sure makes me feel secure Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html Tom Reese PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: PESO: Behind (Norwegian fjord)
May I suggest a title? Waiting for the sun to rise. Kenneth Waller I liked the composition execution of this. -Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Behind (Norwegian fjord) On 8/6/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Thought I might give you people an idea why we are so twisted here in this cold north http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=179132 My first picture published at the web. Besides concert pictures at my site www.ethnobase.org (it is down at the moment) Comments appreciated. W, bleak! I like the navigation pylon placement. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Famous pentax user
On 6/7/05, Bill Lawlor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Yul Brynner? He was an early user of Pentax cameras and lenses. His daughter published a book of his photos after his death in 1985. I knew a San Francisco policeman who moonlighted as a security guard for Yul Brynner in the early 1980s in San Francisco where The King and I played for years. YB was very afraid of asasination and hired a group of SF policemen to guard the stage and dressing rooms of the theatre. Bill Lawlor Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Repository for RAW Image Format Details
An interesting article showed up on one of the geek news sites that I frequent today. It says that a group of people affiliated with a mailing list called OpenRAW are trying to put together a collection of documentation for RAW image formats used by various cameras and making them available to the public. We'll see if the camera/image-chip vendors go along with it or sue for misuse of copyright materials. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/08/014250tid=227tid= 162tid=137 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure makes me feel secure Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for 1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why? 'Cause we have camera gear, and they can't figure out why we'd want to travel all the way down to NC to go to a photography clinic (they really couldn't get their heads around that one - kept asking over and over why we'd want to go do that). And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked. Almost Kafka-esque... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: My GFM observations
Why not? Shop is. If I have to explain it you probably won't understand it. BG Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My GFM observations On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Kenneth Waller wrote: I'll continue to remember that Photoshop is not a verb - thanks Tony. Why not? Shop is. Kostas PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: My GFM observations
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, you haven't seen Ken's work until you see the prints; as beautiful as they may look as PAWs and PESOs and PUGs, they are truly awesome to see in large prints. Ain't that the truth! One of the things I get more than a little fed up with on the 'net is what Michael Reichmann calls pixel peeping; nit-picking images on computer monitors, at magnifications equivalent to 60-inch image width. Or equivalent to 2-inch image width. When the prints come out the bullsh*t stops. One of the things I *love* about PDML get-togethers is the opportunity to see actual real prints by the many talented folks on this list. Yes, Ken Waller's photos really do rock. And by the way, Franks street shots look about 10 times better (though not necessarily sharper - HAR!) in the beautiful prints he brought down. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
Knarf, IRC, this guy walked across the border with his bloodied murder tools! You would have thought that in itself was enough detain him longer. I guess you and Dave just picked the wrong border crossing location! BTW, where did you guys cross? Niagra? Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure makes me feel secure Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for 1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why? 'Cause we have camera gear, and they can't figure out why we'd want to travel all the way down to NC to go to a photography clinic (they really couldn't get their heads around that one - kept asking over and over why we'd want to go do that). And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked. Almost Kafka-esque... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: My GFM observations
On 6/8/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ain't that the truth! One of the things I get more than a little fed up with on the 'net is what Michael Reichmann calls pixel peeping; nit-picking images on computer monitors, at magnifications equivalent to 60-inch image width. Or equivalent to 2-inch image width. When the prints come out the bullsh*t stops. One of the things I *love* about PDML get-togethers is the opportunity to see actual real prints by the many talented folks on this list. Yes, Ken Waller's photos really do rock. And by the way, Franks street shots look about 10 times better (though not necessarily sharper - HAR!) in the beautiful prints he brought down. Thanks, Mark. That goes for your shots (and everyone else's, too). Proper prints are the way to judge a print. Your panos are amazing, as are the rest of yours, in print form. I especially liked the droplets on the blue car hood. Amazing in print. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
He was questioned, Frank. They asked him where he got that neat chain saw. Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked.
Re: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 11:48:10 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US On 8/6/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html aka Brad Dobo! shiver Ooh, I spy a lawsuit on the horizon. That's your chances of getting into the States next year reduced to zero. 8-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: I think i'm the last GFMer to check in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to give a HUGE thanks to Mark Roberts. Led us not only to Winston/Salem, GFM, but to, and places beyond. Frank and I used his name to convince the US immigration to let us through. As soon as we mentioned him, their ears pricked up a lot. vbg Actually, unless Frank has posted on this, its a story in it self. :-) It was a pleasure to meet you and hang with you for the weekend. Truly enjoyable. And I certainly appreciated your efforts above and beyond the call of duty in retrieving me from the top of the mountain on Friday morning (the only way down is on the road and they don't permit walking it, for safety reasons). I'm thinking of leading an unofficial guided walk next year. Could be Attic Window (where I took Frank) or the Profile Trail, which is more suitable for the less athletically-inclined. We have a year to discuss this :) Mark, the Pano shots are truly magnificent. Keep it up. I'll spoil the surprise and let the list know that the topic of my presentation at GFM next year will be multi-image shots, including panoramas. Here's one from Saturday night on the mountain: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm-pan.jpg Four images stitched, approx 3000 x 5400 pixels final image size (yeah, it'll make a nice *big* print g). ist-D, ISO 400, Tamron 17-35/2.8-4, 2-stop split ND filter -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 12:23:43 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure makes me feel secure Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for 1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why? 'Cause we have camera gear, and they can't figure out why we'd want to travel all the way down to NC to go to a photography clinic (they really couldn't get their heads around that one - kept asking over and over why we'd want to go do that). And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked. And another one. Almost Kafka-esque... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: My GFM observations
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: My GFM observations On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Kenneth Waller wrote: I'll continue to remember that Photoshop is not a verb - thanks Tony. Why not? Shop is. Shop is a noun. Tony's point was that it is best to get it right in the camera and not Photoshop it later. William Robb
Re: My GFM observations
Ditto what Mark Knarf have said re actual prints. I really appreciated getting to see Mark, Knarf Ann's prints. Knarf needs a better scanner as his postings don't do justice to his images. Mark had numerous knock out images. I especially liked Water Drops, Reflections of a Bike Shop Window and the Panos. I enjoyed Ann's photos from across the countyry (and Europe). Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My GFM observations On 6/8/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ain't that the truth! One of the things I get more than a little fed up with on the 'net is what Michael Reichmann calls pixel peeping; nit-picking images on computer monitors, at magnifications equivalent to 60-inch image width. Or equivalent to 2-inch image width. When the prints come out the bullsh*t stops. One of the things I *love* about PDML get-togethers is the opportunity to see actual real prints by the many talented folks on this list. Yes, Ken Waller's photos really do rock. And by the way, Franks street shots look about 10 times better (though not necessarily sharper - HAR!) in the beautiful prints he brought down. Thanks, Mark. That goes for your shots (and everyone else's, too). Proper prints are the way to judge a print. Your panos are amazing, as are the rest of yours, in print form. I especially liked the droplets on the blue car hood. Amazing in print. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: My GFM observations
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: My GFM observations On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Kenneth Waller wrote: I'll continue to remember that Photoshop is not a verb - thanks Tony. Why not? Shop is. Shop is a noun. It's also a verb since 1764AD. Tony's point was that it is best to get it right in the camera and not Photoshop it later. Ah yes, I would agree with the essence of that. Kostas
Re: GFM Pix Part II
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put life, limb and camera gear in jeopardy to get shots like this: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434063 Here's Frank climbing up into the Attic Window http://www.robertstech.com/temp/knarf1a.jpg ...and the follow-up: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/knarf2a.jpg Frank getting about as close to the edge as he was willing to go ;-) He's shooting with Cesar's ist-D and my Tamron 17-35. I took my shot with my ist-D and Frank's Zenitar 16mm fisheye. (BTW: Love that built-in flash on the ist-D for a little bit of fill in shots like this. I'd never consider adding an external flash to my bag for a climb like this.) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: My GFM observations
Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, William Robb wrote: Tony's point was that it is best to get it right in the camera and not Photoshop it later. Ah yes, I would agree with the essence of that. Ditto. For example, I continue to use split ND filters even though it's not tough to do in Photoshop. Used one frequently on GFM -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Barry Lategan photos on BBC web page
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/uk_iconic_images_by_barry_lategan/html/1.stm -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Comparison Photo Needed
Thank you. I have the required photos. No more please ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 6/8/2005 12:37:45 AM Subject: Comparison Photo Needed Can someone send me a couple of reasonably sized JPEG's showing the bottom of the istD(s) and the LX, M-series or K-series bodies. Thanks!
Re: Color shifting
Joaquim Carvalho wrote: I have a few F and FA SMC zoom lenses: FA 28-70 F4 F 35-70 3.5-4.5 F 28-80 3.5-4.5 FA 28-80 3.5-5.6 I've been comparing them on the *ist DS at 70mm wide open and on all of them I found that the color of a distant colorfull object also appears on the left of the object. Surprisingly the FA 28-80 3.5-5.6 is the best but then it's at F5.6. Is this an issue of these lenses or of the camera's CCD? This does not happen at all with my older A70-210mm F4 and A35-105mm F3.5 lenses. Can you post a couple of sample images? S
RE: Greetings from Portugal
Hi Joaquim welcome here and its good to upgrade from lurker to active state ;-) The next level would be showing us some photos? greetings from Switzerland Markus -Original Message- From: Joaquim Carvalho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:01 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Greetings from Portugal Hi, I have 2 pentax cameras I love very much: an *ist DS I bought 4 months ago and a MX (that came as the rear cap for a M 50mm F1.7 I bought on Ebay). This list's archive has been very helpfull to me for the last few months, now I'm subscribing.
RE: Repository for RAW Image Format Details
This comment amongst the articles and comments got me to thinking about the viewpoint of the camera manufacturers: A common, openly documented RAW format would fulfill many of the goals of OpenRAW, but is likely to face significant resistance from manufacturers who feel their creativity and ability to innovate would be constrained. Do closely held and undocumented proprietary formats constrain creativity and innovation, or is that just a smoke screen? Shel [Original Message] From: Doug Franklin An interesting article showed up on one of the geek news sites that I frequent today. It says that a group of people affiliated with a mailing list called OpenRAW are trying to put together a collection of documentation for RAW image formats used by various cameras and making them available to the public. We'll see if the camera/image-chip vendors go along with it or sue for misuse of copyright materials. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/08/014250tid=227tid= 162tid=137 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: OT Broadcast email help
On 8/6/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks for the info guys. The problem is that this person doesn't have a fixed ISP account and they are often travelling so they use a web based email service from any handy internet cafe. Currently the list contains 450 names and it's not growing too fast, however Yahoo limits the B'cast to 90 emails per hour, you can imagine what kind of a pain that would be if you were working through an Internet-cafe. My Mac.com account allows me to use a standalone pop3 email app *or* web- based from anywhere to send/receive email and attachments. I have had no problems with bulk emails, although nowhere near 450. http://www.mac.com/1/iTour/index.html Free trial available. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Repository for RAW Image Format Details
Let me rephrase that: Do closely held and undocumented proprietary formats allow for more or enhanced creativity and innovation, or is that just a smoke screen? Shel [Original Message] From: Shel Belinkoff This comment amongst the articles and comments got me to thinking about the viewpoint of the camera manufacturers: A common, openly documented RAW format would fulfill many of the goals of OpenRAW, but is likely to face significant resistance from manufacturers who feel their creativity and ability to innovate would be constrained. Do closely held and undocumented proprietary formats constrain creativity and innovation, or is that just a smoke screen? Shel [Original Message] From: Doug Franklin An interesting article showed up on one of the geek news sites that I frequent today. It says that a group of people affiliated with a mailing list called OpenRAW are trying to put together a collection of documentation for RAW image formats used by various cameras and making them available to the public. We'll see if the camera/image-chip vendors go along with it or sue for misuse of copyright materials. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/08/014250tid=227tid= 162tid=137 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
RE: OT - ground zero in a tornado - video
Hi Cotty thanks for the link, this is really an exciting adventure to be watched from a safe and dry place. Good stuff! Markus -Original Message- Subject: OT - ground zero in a tornado - video http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0506/feature6/multimedia.html Cheers, Cotty
Re: I think i'm the last GFMer to check in
On 8/6/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm thinking of leading an unofficial guided walk next year. Could be Attic Window (where I took Frank) or the Profile Trail, which is more suitable for the less athletically-inclined. We have a year to discuss this :) 1 for the Attic Window please. No - make that 2, Christian's coming as well. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: I think i'm the last GFMer to check in
On 8/6/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's one from Saturday night on the mountain: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm-pan.jpg Wow. Lovely. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: I think i'm the last GFMer to check in
On 8/6/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm thinking of leading an unofficial guided walk next year. Could be Attic Window (where I took Frank) or the Profile Trail, which is more suitable for the less athletically-inclined. We have a year to discuss this :) 1 for the Attic Window please. No - make that 2, Christian's coming as well. Cheers, Cotty I vote for 2 1/2. Thats the profile trail with out the profile. Dave(swollen foot)Brooks
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 8/6/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I also don't know what the problem was with the 'Murricans at the border letting Dave and me in. When they saw the camera gear, and asked us what it was for, we said that we were going to various nuclear power facilities and military bases along the east coast to photograph them for posterity, but then I yelled, JUST JOKING! I'll put ten quid on Frank resting quietly in a cell the day he's due to fly to Spain. Any takers? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 8/6/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: He was questioned, Frank. They asked him where he got that neat chain saw. LOL. Probably referred him to a tool center where he could get it sharpened. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On 8/6/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Ooh, I spy a lawsuit on the horizon. That's your chances of getting into the States next year reduced to zero. 8-) That's alright Mike. You can give me a character ref - - in person. Any chance you're up to it ? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Repository for RAW Image Format Details
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Let me rephrase that: Do closely held and undocumented proprietary formats allow for more or enhanced creativity and innovation, or is that just a smoke screen? Shel BEEP-BEEP-BEEP-BEEP-BEEP-BEEP Oh, sorry, that was my bullshit detector going off. Anytime you hear buzzword-compliant, marketspeak drivel such as enhanced creativity and innovation, you can rest assured that it's meaningless. -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: RE: Repository for RAW Image Format Details
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 01:58:08 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net, pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Repository for RAW Image Format Details Let me rephrase that: Do closely held and undocumented proprietary formats allow for more or enhanced creativity and innovation, or is that just a smoke screen? Shel Your first phrasing made more sense. The independant developers are suggesting that the manufacturers want to retain their proprietary formats in order to maintain control over the development of such. I have no idea of the truth of the statement but it would seem to be a feasible proposition, given the general ethos of management in the modern world. mike [Original Message] From: Shel Belinkoff This comment amongst the articles and comments got me to thinking about the viewpoint of the camera manufacturers: A common, openly documented RAW format would fulfill many of the goals of OpenRAW, but is likely to face significant resistance from manufacturers who feel their creativity and ability to innovate would be constrained. Do closely held and undocumented proprietary formats constrain creativity and innovation, or is that just a smoke screen? Shel [Original Message] From: Doug Franklin An interesting article showed up on one of the geek news sites that I frequent today. It says that a group of people affiliated with a mailing list called OpenRAW are trying to put together a collection of documentation for RAW image formats used by various cameras and making them available to the public. We'll see if the camera/image-chip vendors go along with it or sue for misuse of copyright materials. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/08/014250tid=227tid= 162tid=137 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 02:16:51 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US On 8/6/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I also don't know what the problem was with the 'Murricans at the border letting Dave and me in. When they saw the camera gear, and asked us what it was for, we said that we were going to various nuclear power facilities and military bases along the east coast to photograph them for posterity, but then I yelled, JUST JOKING! I'll put ten quid on Frank resting quietly in a cell the day he's due to fly to Spain. Any takers? I'll have that but only on the basis of disputing the word quietly. 8-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 02:19:51 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US On 8/6/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Ooh, I spy a lawsuit on the horizon. That's your chances of getting into the States next year reduced to zero. 8-) That's alright Mike. You can give me a character ref - - in person. Any chance you're up to it ? Don't tempt me. (whimper) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: RE: Repository for RAW Image Format Details
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 02:39:12 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: RE: Repository for RAW Image Format Details From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/08 Wed PM 01:58:08 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net, pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Repository for RAW Image Format Details Let me rephrase that: Do closely held and undocumented proprietary formats allow for more or enhanced creativity and innovation, or is that just a smoke screen? Shel Your first phrasing made more sense. The independant developers are suggesting that the manufacturers want to retain their proprietary formats in order to maintain control over the development of such. I have no idea of the truth of the statement but it would seem to be a feasible proposition, given the general ethos of management in the modern world. mike I must learn to read. You were right to correct. My other statements stand. [Original Message] From: Shel Belinkoff This comment amongst the articles and comments got me to thinking about the viewpoint of the camera manufacturers: A common, openly documented RAW format would fulfill many of the goals of OpenRAW, but is likely to face significant resistance from manufacturers who feel their creativity and ability to innovate would be constrained. Do closely held and undocumented proprietary formats constrain creativity and innovation, or is that just a smoke screen? Shel [Original Message] From: Doug Franklin An interesting article showed up on one of the geek news sites that I frequent today. It says that a group of people affiliated with a mailing list called OpenRAW are trying to put together a collection of documentation for RAW image formats used by various cameras and making them available to the public. We'll see if the camera/image-chip vendors go along with it or sue for misuse of copyright materials. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/08/014250tid=227tid= 162tid=137 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
marvellous GFM
I'm back on list - sure I missed much commentary on the GFM weekend - dashed off a quick note to my traveling companions earlier just to know I arrived home safely. Though what I WANT to do right now is curl up with my totally filled 1 gig card download stuff delete stuff and make a little photo portfolio to share Other stuff imposes on my time. This morning I got glimpses of others' posts on the weekend and a very strong ditto re looking at stunning prints of Ken's, Mark's and Frank's - Ken's were new to me, I'd seen a bunch of Mark's stuff and Frank's before. The ones I brought were more about this is the kind of stuff I do than this is the way I print I mainly brought dups and work prints - partly out of not having fancy ones and partly out of fearing I'd lose them (see Tom Reese's post:) ) Since I didn't enter the contest or do the seminars I spent a lot of time just doing what was fun which included hunting the elusive lady slipper, cooking, gabbing, and napping. Did go to the contest presentation - Mark and Doug play off each other well and tossed in a few PDML in-jokes which sounded like normal critiques to the masses. I can't remember when I've had a better time being on a hell-bent for heaven road trip than with Mark, Frank and Dave... I had no idea what to expect riding in a pick-up truck - well, not true I had the WRONG idea about riding in a pick-up truck. - it was like a luxury vehicle compared to what I thought it would be and Dave is a super driver. Thursday night was chilly and wet - I had considered, since at that time I was the only camper of the female persuasion there, sleeping in the clean and warm woman's bathroom but I got my camping legs back on this trip and found the tent Frank brought for me cozy as all get out. The rain and fog and mist were certainly the photogs friend and I did a lot of grab shots from the passenger side of the truck and car on the way down and back... maybe nothing memorable but lots of fun - though I frequently was heard to complain that i missed my LX - especially when shutter lag on the dark side killed one of my i nailed it shots. (Dave had to listen to me grumble about that for a while!) On the personality side I especially enjoyed pussy-cat Wheatfield, who I had known virtually for over five years but had never met. Was surprised by the accent and tenor of his voice - a little touch of a Scot's brogue there. Ken Waller was taller and much more soft spoken than I had imagined and I especially enjoyed chatting with French, his wife - sorry they were not camping with us. Felt very comfortable with Dave Brooks, who is the most uncomplaining and easy going guy you could imagine. However, my tent was next to Knarf's and Dave's and let me tell you they are NOT KIDDING about the snore thing. The broad range and variety of knowledge of our entire group was fascinating, too. Great to see old friends and acquaintances again... and noone tortured me too much about my dark-side camera :) :) Did I say I had stuff to do and no time to write? Ack... the laundry calls - and I've got to dig out summer clothes... unlike the cool mountain, New York is sweltering... Wish I were still on the road annsan
Re: I think i'm the last GFMer to check in
Cotty wrote: On 8/6/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm thinking of leading an unofficial guided walk next year. Could be Attic Window (where I took Frank) or the Profile Trail, which is more suitable for the less athletically-inclined. We have a year to discuss this :) 1 for the Attic Window please. No - make that 2, Christian's coming as well. Cheers, Cotty After seeing all of Mark's pics from that walk with Frank, I may be up for the Profile if that :) :) those guys that saw me tripping all over camp will understand Cotty, so glad you will be there next year... missed you! ann ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: SMC Pentax M135/3.5 vs SMC Pentac K135/3.5
Sorry, I though I was clear, the Both are good, the K is better. If they were the same price and I could have only one I'd get the K version if I wanted superior imaging the M if I needed something compact. I selected superior imaging. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 12:13:09 AM, you wrote: PJA They're both well thought of the M is much smaller has a built in lens PJA hood so it's a bit more convenient. The K is bigger and heavier, is a PJA simpler optical formula and has a reputation for having the edge in PJA sharpness and contrast. So as I understand K version of the lense is not so good as M version. Do I understand You correct? PJA It's also a bit more difficult to find but few PJA know just how good it is, it was a bargain lens when it was PJA introduced, so you might pick one up inexpensively. PJA I have a copy of PJA the K version that I almost never use since I picked up the K 135 f2.5. I'm little a bit confused about all answers. So, whcih one produces better picture? If both of the version 'M' and 'K' will have the same price, which one You'll buy? Thanks. -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: Greetings from Portugal
Welcome, you'll either love it or hate it here... Joaquim Carvalho wrote: Hi, I have 2 pentax cameras I love very much: an *ist DS I bought 4 months ago and a MX (that came as the rear cap for a M 50mm F1.7 I bought on Ebay). This list's archive has been very helpfull to me for the last few months, now I'm subscribing. -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Vancouver weather
Hopefully there is someone on the list who can help. My daughter is going to be attending a music camp in Powell River - about 80 miles north of Vancouver. She will be there the last week of June and first week of July. I'm wondering what the general weather will be like - basically trying to decide what type of clothing to pack for this trip. Thanks for anyone with information, Bruce
RE: Greetings from Portugal
That's funny! I didn't get your original post Joaquim, but my first MX came as the free rear cap on an M50/1.4! Welcome! Don -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:05 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Greetings from Portugal Welcome, you'll either love it or hate it here... Joaquim Carvalho wrote: Hi, I have 2 pentax cameras I love very much: an *ist DS I bought 4 months ago and a MX (that came as the rear cap for a M 50mm F1.7 I bought on Ebay). This list's archive has been very helpfull to me for the last few months, now I'm subscribing. -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
OT: Nikon FM
Totally off topic but I just recieved the Nikon FM that I ordered out of curiosity after hearing it compared to the MX. The first thing I noticed is that it's VERY well built. The second was that the viewfinder is very dark compared to the MX, or any other M body. For those who have owned this camera is that normal or do I need to do some cleaning? TIA Don
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
- Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure makes me feel secure Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for 1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why? 'Cause we have camera gear, and they can't figure out why we'd want to travel all the way down to NC to go to a photography clinic (they really couldn't get their heads around that one - kept asking over and over why we'd want to go do that). And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked. In (almost) fairness, he is a US citizen and they did confiscate his weapons, search for warrants on him and hold him for several hours. But still Scary stuff nonetheless. Christian
Re: My GFM observations
I will verify that. Franks actual prints are very competently printed and are far better than the scans he posts indicate, as he has tried to tell us several times (grin). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Roberts wrote: And by the way, Franks street shots look about 10 times better (though not necessarily sharper - HAR!) in the beautiful prints he brought down. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
There's one on CNN's site not as well. These photos don't look real somehow, more like the VR simulations in video games... Scott Loveless wrote: CNN failed to provide a photo. Fox delivers: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158841,00.html On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html Tom Reese -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
I didn't think of that, till now... Cotty wrote: On 8/6/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html aka Brad Dobo! shiver Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: OT: Nikon FM
Don Sanderson wrote: Totally off topic but I just recieved the Nikon FM that I ordered out of curiosity after hearing it compared to the MX. The first thing I noticed is that it's VERY well built. The second was that the viewfinder is very dark compared to the MX, or any other M body. For those who have owned this camera is that normal or do I need to do some cleaning? Aha -- I always *knew* Nikon was on the Dark Side! ;-) (but seriously Don I have never owned or even handled an FM so I actually don't have a useful answer to your question)
Re: OT: Nikon FM
Hello Don, Many many years ago, I was using an MX and switched over to the Nikon FM. Both had been purchased new by me. I had equivalent speed lenses for each and I don't recall there being a noticeable difference in viewfinder brightness between them. Mostly the Nikon was bigger and heavier and the match diode used 3 lights instead of 5. Very similar in operational style. HTH, Bruce Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 8:24:27 AM, you wrote: DS Totally off topic but I just recieved the Nikon FM that I ordered DS out of curiosity after hearing it compared to the MX. DS The first thing I noticed is that it's VERY well built. DS The second was that the viewfinder is very dark compared to DS the MX, or any other M body. DS For those who have owned this camera is that normal or do DS I need to do some cleaning? DS TIA DS Don
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
I'd worry about Frank, but they might appoint me to be his keeper, if I admitted it. frank theriault wrote: On 6/8/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html Tom Reese I don't see what the problem was. He killed the guy in Canada. It's not like he was going to use the bloodied weapons to do bad stuff in the US. I also don't know what the problem was with the 'Murricans at the border letting Dave and me in. When they saw the camera gear, and asked us what it was for, we said that we were going to various nuclear power facilities and military bases along the east coast to photograph them for posterity, but then I yelled, JUST JOKING! They got real testy after that. Go figure... -knarf -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
Almost? frank theriault wrote: On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure makes me feel secure Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for 1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why? 'Cause we have camera gear, and they can't figure out why we'd want to travel all the way down to NC to go to a photography clinic (they really couldn't get their heads around that one - kept asking over and over why we'd want to go do that). And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked. Almost Kafka-esque... cheers, frank -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
Somehow that reminds me of the movie Airplane II. Remember, where they let the terrorists with their weapons through the gate then slam a grandmother type up against the wall and search her? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Tom Reese wrote: they let almost anyone in: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/07/border.crossing.ap/index.html Tom Reese -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005
Re: Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case
Howdy, Thanks for the reply Bob. The only thing that worries me about being in Texas is the amount of moisture, high dewpoints, in the air. I keep the cases out of the sun as much as possible, and when they are not in the use they are kept in a cool dark area. I keep a few silica gel packets, the rechargeable kind, and it seems to work in keeping the moisture down. Its nice to hear of others using foam filled Pelican cases as storage. Until today Cotty I never even considered mites as a possible problem. I'll keep an eye out for them now. Maybe I should spray the outside of my case with an insecticide. ;-) That should do it. Chad
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
Since he and Dave insisted that they were going down to NC to meet a bunch of guys from the internet at a camera clinic and told the Border Patrol guys all about PDML, so Homeland Security is now monitoring this list, I would be a fool to take that bet. GRIN! (I hope) BTW, I imagine they thought Dave and Frank were smuggling pot. Hell, when I saw them together I thought they were smuggling pot. Dave looks like a burnt-out hippy, and Frank looks like a burnt-out beatnik. Together they look like a MuttJeff version of CheechChong. (I do exaggerate a bit here, but not a lot.) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: On 8/6/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I also don't know what the problem was with the 'Murricans at the border letting Dave and me in. When they saw the camera gear, and asked us what it was for, we said that we were going to various nuclear power facilities and military bases along the east coast to photograph them for posterity, but then I yelled, JUST JOKING! I'll put ten quid on Frank resting quietly in a cell the day he's due to fly to Spain. Any takers? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005
RE: OT: Nikon FM
Don, Are you familiar with this site: http://tinyurl.com/o6ln Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson Totally off topic but I just recieved the Nikon FM that I ordered out of curiosity after hearing it compared to the MX. The first thing I noticed is that it's VERY well built. The second was that the viewfinder is very dark compared to the MX, or any other M body. For those who have owned this camera is that normal or do I need to do some cleaning? TIA Don
Re: OT: Nikon FM
I've played with a FM3n briefly, had an MX hanging over my shoulder at the time. The view finder was bright but a bit narrower view than the MX if I remember correctly. The FM3n is a much later body. E.R.N. Reed wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: Totally off topic but I just recieved the Nikon FM that I ordered out of curiosity after hearing it compared to the MX. The first thing I noticed is that it's VERY well built. The second was that the viewfinder is very dark compared to the MX, or any other M body. For those who have owned this camera is that normal or do I need to do some cleaning? Aha -- I always *knew* Nikon was on the Dark Side! ;-) (but seriously Don I have never owned or even handled an FM so I actually don't have a useful answer to your question) -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: My GFM observations
Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf needs a better scanner as his postings don't do justice to his images. I'll second that. I'd venture to say that more people were (pleasantly) surprised by Franks photos than anyone else's, just because the prints were so much better than what we'd seen on the web. A better scanner might help, but I'd bet significant improvement could be obtained with his existing scanner and some scanning/Photoshop instruction. Frank's planning on visiting us in Pittsburgh in the fall; perhaps I might have to sit him in front of my computer for a few tutorials ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Long Focus v Telephoto
Could someone be kind enough to remind me what the diff is between a long focus and a telephoto lens. Thanks! Shel
RE: PESOs: Maggie Has a New Hatch!
Nice shots Joe. The expression on the dog's face is really interesting. Australian Shepherd or Border Collie? Tom C. From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESOs: Maggie Has a New Hatch! Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:16:28 -0600 And she is simply enchanted with them: http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3266201 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3266205 What a pleasure to slap on the FA* 300 f4.5 and go to work on these. Thanks again to Alan Chan and Cameron Hood for letting me know about the one for sale in Vancouver. Glad to hear everyond had a good time at GFM. I am back barely one week from Brazil and have to leave Friday for Berlin. I won't get much chance for photography in Berlin, but after that my son and I hope to go to Prague, where I would like to do a couple of days of shooting. Joe
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:23:43AM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure makes me feel secure Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for 1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why? 'Cause we have camera gear, and they can't figure out why we'd want to travel all the way down to NC to go to a photography clinic (they really couldn't get their heads around that one - kept asking over and over why we'd want to go do that). And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked. No questions asked ? I'd suggest reading the actual story. Thet detained the guy for over two hours, trying to find some reason for keeping him out (an outstanding warrant somewhere, etc.). Absent that, and because the guy is a US citizen, they really didn't have much of an excuse for refusing him entry.
Re: Long Focus v Telephoto
A telephoto lens is physically shorter than it's focal length. This is usually achieved through the use of a retro-focus lens design. As I understand it, anyway. Best, Wiggy ---Original Message--- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Long Focus v Telephoto Sent: 08 Jun 2005 11:26:37 Could someone be kind enough to remind me what the diff is between a long focus and a telephoto lens. Thanks! Shel ---Original Message---
Re: Long Focus v Telephoto
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:26:37AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Could someone be kind enough to remind me what the diff is between a long focus and a telephoto lens. Thanks! A one-sentance summary: A telephoto lens *is* a long focus lens, but uses multiple elements to reduce the physical size of the lens.
Re: Long Focus v Telephoto
A long focus lens is one that is longer than the usual normal focal length for the format, but still of standard design. A 50mm for a 35mm camera would be a long focus lens on an *istD A telephoto is a lens that is physically shorter than it focal length. That is accomplished by building in what is basically a teleconverter (or a barlow lens). I will add two more definitions: A wide-Angle is a lens that is shorter than the usual normal focal length for the format. A retro-focus lens is a WA that is physically longer than its focal length (a reversed telephoto) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Could someone be kind enough to remind me what the diff is between a long focus and a telephoto lens. Thanks! Shel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
As a US citizen they could not keep him out. They were looking for a reason to arrest him. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- John Francis wrote: On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:23:43AM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On 6/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure makes me feel secure Well, in all seriousness, they give Dave and I a hassle, keep us for 1/2 hour while they ask us questions and search the truck. Why? 'Cause we have camera gear, and they can't figure out why we'd want to travel all the way down to NC to go to a photography clinic (they really couldn't get their heads around that one - kept asking over and over why we'd want to go do that). And then, this dobo-esque character with actual blood on actual weapons used in an actual murder gets through, no questions asked. No questions asked ? I'd suggest reading the actual story. Thet detained the guy for over two hours, trying to find some reason for keeping him out (an outstanding warrant somewhere, etc.). Absent that, and because the guy is a US citizen, they really didn't have much of an excuse for refusing him entry. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005
Re: this explains how Frank and Dave got into the US
BTW, I imagine they thought Dave and Frank were smuggling pot. Hell, when I saw them together I thought they were smuggling pot. Dave looks like a burnt-out hippy You nailed that one,Tom.:-) , and Frank looks like a burnt-out beatnik. Together they look like a MuttJeff version of CheechChong. (I do exaggerate a bit here, but not a lot.) Oh, Oh can i be Chong. LOL Good post Tom. Dave graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
RE: Vancouver weather
It will be 50/50 chance of warm and sunny/cool and rainy during the days. Definitely cooler nights. They call it the Sunshine Coast, but one needs to remember where they're (the residents) coming from. Any sun seems like a miracle. Was totally rained out camping in Haywire Bay one summer. Beautiful area for photos, especially of the costal islands. Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Vancouver weather Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:16:20 -0700 Hopefully there is someone on the list who can help. My daughter is going to be attending a music camp in Powell River - about 80 miles north of Vancouver. She will be there the last week of June and first week of July. I'm wondering what the general weather will be like - basically trying to decide what type of clothing to pack for this trip. Thanks for anyone with information, Bruce
Re: Storing lenses in Pelican case
On 8/6/05, Chad, discombobulated, unleashed: Until today Cotty I never even considered mites as a possible problem. I'll keep an eye out for them now. Maybe I should spray the outside of my case with an insecticide. ;-) That should do it. I must admit I've never seen them either. Has anyone ever come across an insectoid infestation in their gear? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Back to the beach - from GFMtn.
Chris Penny Braswell - lurker extraordinaire. An excellent photographer that not only took Best In Show, but I believe a first and a third place??? And boy, does he know us all :-) Amazing how he keeps up with the list... I think his first name is Charles but the error serves him right for not posting. He is indeed a terrific photographer. It's really spooky the way he knew everyone. I hereby nominate him for the title 'Official PDML Stalker'. Official PDML Stalker Now Tom don't make me come out here to defend myself. : ) Seriously, it was great to see all of the familiar faces again from the list. It was also nice to see the new attendees and be able to put faces with some of the additinal names. Charles
RE: Long Focus v Telephoto
A long focus lens typically has back focus same approx. length as focal length, i.e. the lens is same distance from focal plane as focal length. A telephoto len typically has much shorter back focus such that the lens is physically shorter and the lens is much closer to the focal plane than the focal length. RE: Large Format The other main difference is telephoto lenses have typically have less coverage and lower image quality for a given format than a long focus lens of same F.L. OR another way of looking at it is a long focus lens that gives same coverage angle as a tele at same focal length will nearly always give superior image quality for a given format. JCO -Original Message- From: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:53 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Long Focus v Telephoto A long focus lens is one that is longer than the usual normal focal length for the format, but still of standard design. A 50mm for a 35mm camera would be a long focus lens on an *istD A telephoto is a lens that is physically shorter than it focal length. That is accomplished by building in what is basically a teleconverter (or a barlow lens). I will add two more definitions: A wide-Angle is a lens that is shorter than the usual normal focal length for the format. A retro-focus lens is a WA that is physically longer than its focal length (a reversed telephoto) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Could someone be kind enough to remind me what the diff is between a long focus and a telephoto lens. Thanks! Shel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005
RE: OT: Nikon FM
Hi Shel, actually that's the site I used to make my decision as to which Nikon to buy. Thanks. Don -Original message- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:08:52 -0500 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT: Nikon FM Don, Are you familiar with this site: http://tinyurl.com/o6ln Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson Totally off topic but I just recieved the Nikon FM that I ordered out of curiosity after hearing it compared to the MX. The first thing I noticed is that it's VERY well built. The second was that the viewfinder is very dark compared to the MX, or any other M body. For those who have owned this camera is that normal or do I need to do some cleaning? TIA Don
Re: OT: Nikon FM
Thanks Peter. Don -Original message- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:12:08 -0500 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Nikon FM I've played with a FM3n briefly, had an MX hanging over my shoulder at the time. The view finder was bright but a bit narrower view than the MX if I remember correctly. The FM3n is a much later body. A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: OT: Nikon FM
Thanks Bruce, I'll give cleaning a go. Don -Original message- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:35:59 -0500 To: Don Sanderson pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Nikon FM Hello Don, Many many years ago, I was using an MX and switched over to the Nikon FM. Both had been purchased new by me. I had equivalent speed lenses for each and I don't recall there being a noticeable difference in viewfinder brightness between them. Mostly the Nikon was bigger and heavier and the match diode used 3 lights instead of 5. Very similar in operational style. HTH, Bruce
