Re: Grand Canyon
Ye gods and little fishes! No way, Jose! I get the tingles in the tummy just standing near a drop of 20 feet, never mind 4000... John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: Grand Canyon Probably old news to some of you. I just heard of it. No not the Grand Canyon itself. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0826_050826_grandcanyon.html Tom C.
AA bis
Hi, interesting shot for Ansel Adams fans: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html follow the last link for a related story. Bob
Re: Which Flat Screen
FWIW, our 7 yr old CRT TV has been playing up and I decided to buy a flat screen TV, and snagged a close-out deal on a Dell 26 inch LCD for 369 GBP inc delivery. This one: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1772583,00.asp The connectivity is excellent, and at 267 inches, just a tad on the small side for living room TV viewing, my wife says. Little does she know this is all part of the Master Plan. A couple of years down the line: 'Yeah I guess it is a little small for watching movies on, and I saw a 30 inch at a good price the other day. Hmm? What would we do with the Dell? Hmm, now let me think' bwahahaha Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
On Dec 15, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: ... I also use 4x oversampling and dICE. The extra scanning time is worth it. I did many experiments with oversampling and only rarely saw much real improvement come out of it. Only with either *extremely* thin or overly dense/contrasty negatives do I find much use for it. I've found good results with 4x sampling, but my scanner is reading much darker overall due to a grain diffuser that I'm using in the light path. Because of this I need to be very careful to minimise noise in the shadows as some of those shadows end up as midtones in the final image. I experimented with 16x the other day but it's far too slow (would probably take about 1 hour for a 35mm slide) and the resulting difference in shadow noise was miniscule. I might play around with lower settings next time I have the scanner running, to try and quantify it a bit better. With the amount of scanning I'm doing now, any improvements to my workflow can result in big time savings. It pays to optimize exposure and processing for scanning if it's your primary means to render negatives to print. I normally shoot negatives for scanning to be *just* dense enough to capture the shadow details clearly, unblocked highs, and use minimal agitation to reduce grain growth. I shoot colour slide film and with its limited latitude there's not much room for optimising exposure to scan. It doesn't take much to clip the highlights and no amount of scanner adjustment will bring the detail back. - Dave
Re: Which Flat Screen
I don't mind admitting that I'm an iPerson. I have zero time or interest in understanding the circuitry or specs of monitors or computers, I just like them to work. If it's as far removed from Bill Gates as I can get, and with flashy design that I can jack off to, even better :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Which Flat Screen
On 15/12/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: and at 267 inches oops, boasting again. 26 inches... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - A Quiet Moment
On Dec 15, 2005, at 8:11 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: You've mentioned flatness/low contrast before. I have viewed it on two calibrated monitors - one CRT and one LCD and it seems fine to me. I'll be interested to hear what others think. Could be your monitor or mine or just an individual preference. Hopefully others will give their impressions. I like the pic as-is. I think any flatness is more of a personal preference, but in this photo it may be exacerbated by the very bright background. Have you considered cropping just a little off the right - maybe 2/3 to 3/4 of the rock? As to fill flash - when shooting outdoor portraits, their can be some issues with lighting. I've done some outdoor events before and I find that a touch of fill flash at -1.5 keeps some detail in the shadows, especially in direct sunlight. - Dave
Re: AA bis
On 15/12/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi, interesting shot for Ansel Adams fans: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html follow the last link for a related story. Excellent, thanks Bob. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Who's shooting professionally with Pentax -- was -- Who's Not Using Digital
This one time, at band camp, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel's question got me thinking about all the pros I see with Canon and Nikon hardware. Who's using their Pentax gear to make a buck or two, what gear are you using, are you using film or digital or both, and what kind of jobs are you doing? I use *istD for concert photography. I use MZ-S for event photography. I use 6x7 in the studio. all this is paid work. Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: Re: Which Flat Screen
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/12/15 Thu AM 08:41:14 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which Flat Screen FWIW, our 7 yr old CRT TV has been playing up and I decided to buy a flat screen TV, and snagged a close-out deal on a Dell 26 inch LCD for 369 GBP inc delivery. This one: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1772583,00.asp The connectivity is excellent, and at 267 inches, just a tad on the small side for living room TV viewing, my wife says. Little does she know this is all part of the Master Plan. A couple of years down the line: 'Yeah I guess it is a little small for watching movies on, and I saw a 30 inch at a good price the other day. Hmm? What would we do with the Dell? Hmm, now let me think' bwahahaha 267 inches? Exactly what house did you buy? 8-) Any smearing? (I mean in the picture, not of manufacturer.) m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: Which Flat Screen
Cotty wrote: and at 267 inches oops, boasting again. 26 inches... Damn! I thought you'd bought a drive-in. Malcolm
Re: AA bis
A type of scene that is timeless... Thanks, Ronald Bob W wrote: Hi, interesting shot for Ansel Adams fans: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html follow the last link for a related story. Bob
Re: more 12-24 images (someone having a bad day)
we in Italy surely have some traffic problems, yes. Anyway we tend to park a little bit better than you in the Pacific Standard Time. bye, Danilo.
RE: F35-135_was_Couldn't resist.
G'day Don. I find the 35-135 to be a handy walk around lens on the *ist Ds. The Macro comes in handy every now and them. I find it to be sharp enough @ 5.6 and above. The only down sides are the rather long close focus distance and the crop factor at 35mm. At 135 with the crop factor, it reaches out very well. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, Australia -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:59 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: F35-135_was_Couldn't resist. Thanks Trevor. What do you think of the 35-135? I've bid on a few but wouldn't go very high, there aren't many comments out there on this lens. -Original Message- From: Trevor Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:49 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Couldn't resist. G'day Don. Mate, I've bought from him before and he is a top seller. I picked up a SMC-F 35-135 Af from him. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, Australia -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:31 PM To: PDML Subject: Couldn't resist. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7572750740 I now have 2 on the way, eventually I'll get another really good one. ;-) I've always wanted to buy something from this guy, he has some excellent deals if one can stand buying sight unseen. Even with his 3053/99.9% rating that's hard for me to do. I suspect the hair is a string of glue inside, I saw that in my first one too. It was fairly easy to remove. Don -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
OT - best place for it
There is at least one person on here who will probably want to be around when this surfaces. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/ap_on_fe_st/buried_car Pictures would be good. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Better? http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/whatever.pdf Don -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:21 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! Duh -- I didn't realize what that link was --- OK, now take out that comma - You fixed whatever for me, but the comma doesn't belong. What? no attribution? wahwahwwahwah ann the duly quoted Don Sanderson wrote: http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/whatever.pdf Quote File, Schmote File! It's going on my wall!! ;-) (Thanx Ann) Don -Original Message- From: E.R.N. Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:51 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! Ann Sanfedele wrote: (of her subjects) it is just what ever is in front of the camera that I want to look at again... This is going in my quote file.
Re: Grand Canyon
On Dec 14, 2005, at 7:40 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I cound stand a few feet back from the edge of a cliff or mountainside, and, with some trepedation, drive up a narrow mountain road... but just seeing that glass thingy hang out over a chasm... w ... no thank u I'd recommend, then, that you avoid going out onto the balcony of the Ghost Bar in Las Vegas. The bar is on top of a building with something like 40 floors. On one corner of the balcony the floor is made of glass and when you stand on it you look down through all of those floors to the lobby waay down below. Quite an experience, particularly if you have partaken of the bar's specialties prior to going out there! I find it interesting that this Grand Canyon thingie is being built by an Indian tribe. There is a common belief that American Indians do not have a fear of heights. Maybe there is some truth to that. Bob
Re: Which Flat Screen
Congratulations. I bought a 61 inch Pioneer Plasma HD monitor a few weeks ago. I got a good deal, but it was still very pricey. Gotta hook the computer up to it one of these days, but I'm still busy amazing myself with HD satellite broadcasts and upsampled DVDs. Paul On Dec 15, 2005, at 3:41 AM, Cotty wrote: FWIW, our 7 yr old CRT TV has been playing up and I decided to buy a flat screen TV, and snagged a close-out deal on a Dell 26 inch LCD for 369 GBP inc delivery. This one: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1772583,00.asp The connectivity is excellent, and at 267 inches, just a tad on the small side for living room TV viewing, my wife says. Little does she know this is all part of the Master Plan. A couple of years down the line: 'Yeah I guess it is a little small for watching movies on, and I saw a 30 inch at a good price the other day. Hmm? What would we do with the Dell? Hmm, now let me think' bwahahaha Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Which Flat Screen
On 12/15/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: No I wasn't talking about circuitry, my guess is that the ROMs are likely the only thing that's different on the technology side. This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** good AU$ 899 from Dell online Apple Cinema Display 20 - US $799 - 2 USB 2.0 port/2 FireWire 400 port - US Street $720 - User reviews * excellent AU$ 1249 RRP from Apple Oz (Also the cheapest I could find with a quick web search) For AU$ 1400 you can get a 24 2405FPW Dell monitor or AU$ 2100 for the 23 cinema display They may indeed be worth it, but Apple products just aren't as competitively priced here in Australia. Dave
Re: Which Flat Screen
On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: That may be true, Apple buys the panels from an outside vendor of course, but I'll bet the electronics driving the display panel are different. That's not to say the Dell is better or worse. There's more to a monitor than simply the tube or display panel itself. Sometimes the rest of the package is just as important. Apple's displays are well known to be held to very tight, high quality standards. That's why they sell at a premium price. The flat panel monitors from Formac win a lot of awards when tested. Their latest TFT line looks really good. You can see info at www.formac.com Bob
PESO: You give it a title... :)
I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. take care, Glen
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
On Dec 15, 2005, at 6:59 AM, Glen wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. Fun shot. But your model's expression makes it look like she's angry about something. I think a serene expression would fit the image better. Title? Maybe Invisible stool. Bob
Re: Report on SanDisk SD GAMING (yellow) card
In Sunday's national advertising, 'Staples' put the 1 GB card at $50 after rebates. It was something like $89.99 less $30 instant rebate and then $10 mail in rebate. See if you can find a sleepy 'Staples' store that still has them... Bob S. On 12/15/05, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All! So, I'd like to report on the SanDisk SD gaming (yellow) card http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1193)-SDSDG-1024-SanDisk_Gaming_SD_1GB.aspx I bought one from the local Staples store (Thanks to P.J. Alling) - see the thread OT: rebates for SanDisk CF and SD cards. I compared it to the UltraII 1GB SD card that I purchased this summer. Comparison: Camera: *istDS in multiple shot mode, MF. Shot: the same (plus-minus vibration of my hand) Tests: 1. series of 5 shots - timing from the first moment the button is pressed until the red light (recording) goes off. Both timings are about the same (~19sec), with the Yellow card being just about 1 sec faster. 2. Pressing the button for 1 minute. Timing until the red light (recording) goes off. Total time: 1:18 (1 min 18 sec) (yellow) 1:18-1:19 (UltraII) Total number of shots: 20 (yellow), 19 (ultraII) Alternatively, if I held the button until 20 shots were fired, the total time for UltraII was 1:23. So, the conclusion is that when used for recording of images on *istDS the SanDisk Yellow gaming 1GB SD card is at least as fast as the UltraII SanDisk 1GB SD card, and even a bit faster. I hope this helps. Igor PS. Unfortunately, it is out-of-stock on Staples web site: http://tinyurl.com/aldgh Local stores also have $6 off coupon in the insert inside their Digital Photography Gifts and More brochure.
Re: Using the A*85/1.4
good, were you using a digital or a film camera?? (thinkinh to the crop factor) thanks, danilo.
Re: PESO - Art Under the Freeway: Wheelchair Racer
On 12/12/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted this a while ago but didn't see it appear on the list. === Here's a pic of another piece of artwork from under the freeway. This is a tight shot to show some detail in the face. I'll probably post a wider shot later today or tomorrow. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/racer.html I really like your framing/composition here, Shel. Having seen the other one, this looks like it could be the beginning of a cool series. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Couldn't resist.
On 12/14/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7572750740 I now have 2 on the way, eventually I'll get another really good one. ;-) I've always wanted to buy something from this guy, he has some excellent deals if one can stand buying sight unseen. Even with his 3053/99.9% rating that's hard for me to do. I suspect the hair is a string of glue inside, I saw that in my first one too. It was fairly easy to remove. As Foster Hewitt (all Canadians on the list will know who he was) used to say: He shoots, he scores! Good one, Don. At that price, you can't go wrong. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Wall Flower
On 12/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the detail pics from my bedroom shoot. Two monolights. Fill at minus one stop. FA 50/1.4 on the *istD f10 @ 1/60 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3950383 I like it, Paul! The inclusion of the mirror/plaque or whatever it is at the top adds a great deal of interest to this shot. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Which Flat Screen
Godfrey, You'll want to check pricing on the 2005FPW, as it lists for $749CDN right now (On sale for $599CDN), not $799USD. Just checked Dell's site and that panel is $549USD list and currently on sale for $463.20. The Apple is $799USD or $999CDN. All prices from the respective Webstores. And those are notable differences. -Adam Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: No I wasn't talking about circuitry, my guess is that the ROMs are likely the only thing that's different on the technology side. This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** good Apple Cinema Display 20 - US $799 - 2 USB 2.0 port/2 FireWire 400 port - US Street $720 - User reviews * excellent They have to have different circuitry, they support different ports and features. The Apple is fully software controlled too, where the Dell has push button controls. My problem is that i people seem to see very little else as viable in digital imaging, the bias needs addressing. And here Apple monitors are more expensive than most others. Sneering by calling folks who use Apple equipment as i people is insulting. Saying that such people need to be instructed is condescending. You're proving you know how to be a pompous twit. At this point YOU are the only person who has suggested that I'm not willing to help, note that I didn't discount an Apple monitor as suitable. I didn't say you were unwilling to help. I said you were mounting an asinine attack on persons for no reason, and annoying the hell out of me. Long as you want to be an annoying twit in public, I figure I can be one right back. Perhaps it's one way to get a message to you. Godfrey
Re: OT: need a favor
Also Openoffice does pdf conversion (word2pdf I mean). it's free (and I think it's also better than word97) www.openoffice.org ciao Danilo
RE: F35-135_was_Couldn't resist.
Thanks Trevor. Don -Original Message- From: Trevor Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:19 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: F35-135_was_Couldn't resist. G'day Don. I find the 35-135 to be a handy walk around lens on the *ist Ds. The Macro comes in handy every now and them. I find it to be sharp enough @ 5.6 and above. The only down sides are the rather long close focus distance and the crop factor at 35mm. At 135 with the crop factor, it reaches out very well. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, Australia -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:59 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: F35-135_was_Couldn't resist. Thanks Trevor. What do you think of the 35-135? I've bid on a few but wouldn't go very high, there aren't many comments out there on this lens. -Original Message- From: Trevor Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:49 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Couldn't resist. G'day Don. Mate, I've bought from him before and he is a top seller. I picked up a SMC-F 35-135 Af from him. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, Australia -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:31 PM To: PDML Subject: Couldn't resist. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7572750740 I now have 2 on the way, eventually I'll get another really good one. ;-) I've always wanted to buy something from this guy, he has some excellent deals if one can stand buying sight unseen. Even with his 3053/99.9% rating that's hard for me to do. I suspect the hair is a string of glue inside, I saw that in my first one too. It was fairly easy to remove. Don -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: Which Flat Screen
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** good Apple Cinema Display 20 - US $799 - 2 USB 2.0 port/2 FireWire 400 port - US Street $720 - User reviews * excellent You'll want to check pricing on the 2005FPW, as it lists for $749CDN right now (On sale for $599CDN), not $799USD. Just checked Dell's site and that panel is $549USD list and currently on sale for $463.20. The Apple is $799USD or $999CDN. All prices from the respective Webstores. And those are notable differences. Godfrey listed street prices there as well. My conclusion (if anyone cares) is that this is another horses for courses case. Sure, the Apple costs more, but were you to resell it you would get more. Sure the Apple may have higher QC, but look at that price. Sure, the Dell is cheap but it does not have the street-cred of the Apple. Sure, the Apple gets 5 as opposed to 3 stars from its users but Apple is a cult and one should take user reviews with a pinch of salt. Ydda yadda yadda yadda... Kostas (yadda-yadda, yadidi yadda, yadda...)
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
Really interesting setup. I think though the model looks to irritated - a more relaxed look would be more in line with the levitating girl. Ttitle - floating in the air??? Cheers, Ronald Glen wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. take care, Glen
Re: Which Flat Screen
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** good Apple Cinema Display 20 - US $799 - 2 USB 2.0 port/2 FireWire 400 port - US Street $720 - User reviews * excellent You'll want to check pricing on the 2005FPW, as it lists for $749CDN right now (On sale for $599CDN), not $799USD. Just checked Dell's site and that panel is $549USD list and currently on sale for $463.20. The Apple is $799USD or $999CDN. All prices from the respective Webstores. And those are notable differences. Godfrey listed street prices there as well. My conclusion (if anyone cares) is that this is another horses for courses case. Sure, the Apple costs more, but were you to resell it you would get more. Sure the Apple may have higher QC, but look at that price. Sure, the Dell is cheap but it does not have the street-cred of the Apple. Sure, the Apple gets 5 as opposed to 3 stars from its users but Apple is a cult and one should take user reviews with a pinch of salt. Ydda yadda yadda yadda... Kostas (yadda-yadda, yadidi yadda, yadda...) Umm, but Godfrey listed a list price for the Dell which hasn't been accurate for 6 months, LIST on the Dell is now $549USD not the $799 Godfrey listed (Street is currently the $463.20 I list also). The Apple Listed for $999USD when the Dell was $799. Big Difference. -Adam
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
On 12/15/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg Okay, who stole my chair? -Mat
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] interesting shot for Ansel Adams fans: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html follow the last link for a related story. Why would anyone want to copy Ansel Adams (or any other photographer/photograph)? Seems to me to be the ultimate in creative bankrupcy... Pål
Re: AA bis
At 08:47 AM 12/15/2005, Pål Jensen wrote: Why would anyone want to copy Ansel Adams (or any other photographer/photograph)? Seems to me to be the ultimate in creative bankrupcy... Pål Perhaps they had no intention of copying Ansel's creative imagery. Perhaps they simply wanted to witness in person the same sort of spectacle that Ansel himself had witnessed and recorded with his camera? While there, what better thing for a photographer to do, than take a snapshot to commemorate the moment? What you're accusing them of, depends on their intent, which only they could possibly know. If I had been in the area, I would have taken the shot--for the reasons I just mentioned. I wouldn't declare it an act of personal creativity though. Rather, my creative shots would be ones of all the other photographers taking replica images of the scene Ansel made famous . ;) take care, Glen
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
At 07:08 AM 12/15/2005, Bob Shell wrote: On Dec 15, 2005, at 6:59 AM, Glen wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. Fun shot. But your model's expression makes it look like she's angry about something. I think a serene expression would fit the image better. Title? Maybe Invisible stool. Bob Thanks Bob, To me, she looks contemplative, not angry. After meeting her in person, I can vouch that this expression is a serene one for her. Perhaps it is her naturally dramatic chin that makes it look that way to you? take care, Glen
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
Glen, She's slightly off center to the right. There may have been a draft in the hall. LOL I wish they'd tell me when they have waxed this floor. Jack --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. take care, Glen __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: AA bis
Op Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:47:55 +0100 schreef Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] interesting shot for Ansel Adams fans: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html follow the last link for a related story. Why would anyone want to copy Ansel Adams (or any other photographer/photograph)? Seems to me to be the ultimate in creative bankrupcy... To learn from him? To honour him? To have a starting point for further creative exploration? To have the print cheaply ;-) In painting there _is_ a long tradition of copying/interpreting past masterworks... -- Regards, Lucas
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
Darned updrafts! Shel --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have.
Re: AA bis
I believe that every artist borrows from memories of past works seen. In other words lie, steal and make it your own as tauted (tongue-in-cheek) years ago. Ansel's handling of blacks and contrast are very appealing and a style I'm sure many strive to duplicate. It wouldn't surprise me if there is Ansel Adams soft ware in the works that will give your work that look with a single key stroke. I hope not! Jack --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:47 AM 12/15/2005, Pål Jensen wrote: Why would anyone want to copy Ansel Adams (or any other photographer/photograph)? Seems to me to be the ultimate in creative bankrupcy... Pål Perhaps they had no intention of copying Ansel's creative imagery. Perhaps they simply wanted to witness in person the same sort of spectacle that Ansel himself had witnessed and recorded with his camera? While there, what better thing for a photographer to do, than take a snapshot to commemorate the moment? What you're accusing them of, depends on their intent, which only they could possibly know. If I had been in the area, I would have taken the shot--for the reasons I just mentioned. I wouldn't declare it an act of personal creativity though. Rather, my creative shots would be ones of all the other photographers taking replica images of the scene Ansel made famous . ;) take care, Glen __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
On Dec 15, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Glen wrote: To me, she looks contemplative, not angry. After meeting her in person, I can vouch that this expression is a serene one for her. Perhaps it is her naturally dramatic chin that makes it look that way to you? She apparently looks angry to others as well. It's not her chin, it's her mouth. Bob
Re: AA bis
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sure many strive to duplicate. It wouldn't surprise me if there is Ansel Adams soft ware in the works that will give your work that look with a single key stroke. I hope not! Why? Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Kostas
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
Boy do I have gas! Jack --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darned updrafts! Shel --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: AA bis
On Dec 15, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I believe that every artist borrows from memories of past works seen. In other words lie, steal and make it your own as tauted (tongue-in-cheek) years ago. Ansel's handling of blacks and contrast are very appealing and a style I'm sure many strive to duplicate. It wouldn't surprise me if there is Ansel Adams soft ware in the works that will give your work that look with a single key stroke. I hope not! Someone once asked Salvador Dali about his borrowing from other artists. His reply: The Divine Dali does not borrow, he STEALS! Bob The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'Hmmm, That's funny ...' Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
My first reaction was that she looked angry or irritated. However, after viewing the image at a larger size than normally appears on my screen, I could see that wasn't the case, and her appearance appeared softer and more gentle. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Shell She apparently looks angry to others as well. It's not her chin, it's her mouth.
Re: LCD hoods
I have one on the 20D... It works real well. The main reason I got it was that I was getting nose prints on the LCD... I'm left eye dominant and look through the viewfinder with my left eye. The only complaint is that closing it is kinda awkward as you have to press the sides in and at the same time push the cover down. If it was a one finger operation it would be better. It also prevents chimping! :-) - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:12 PM Subject: LCD hoods Hi All, Has anybody used LCD hoods/protectors with *ist DS ? I see that Delkin has one http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_pop_up_shade.html more specifically: http://www.delkin.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=270cat=63page=1 Has anybody tried this one? How is it? Does anybody else make a similar product? Thanks, Igor PS. For those who has a D model: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21784387/
RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment
Tim Øsleby wrote: Personally I find Bruce's work, bw and colour, very consistent. I find the tonal ranges very similar. BW and color are different, and the lighting and tonal range that works well in one medium doesn't always work well in another. That's not to say that Bruce made a bad choice in how the photo was presented. It's just a general statement. Shel
Re: AA bis
fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sure many strive to duplicate. It wouldn't surprise me if there is Ansel Adams soft ware in the works that will give your work that look with a single key stroke. I hope not! Why? Imitation is the highest form of flattery. While it is flattering for the who is imitated it is not flattering to be a guy who just copies others work. DagT
Re: AA bis
fra: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:47:55 +0100 schreef Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] interesting shot for Ansel Adams fans: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html follow the last link for a related story. Why would anyone want to copy Ansel Adams (or any other photographer/photograph)? Seems to me to be the ultimate in creative bankrupcy... To learn from him? To honour him? To have a starting point for further creative exploration? To have the print cheaply ;-) In painting there _is_ a long tradition of copying/interpreting past masterworks... Interpreting and further developping of ideas, yes. Pure copying is just one stept away from faking it. The laws, at least in Europe, are clear in that a new piece must add something new in addition to a simple copy. DagT
Re: Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
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Re: AA bis
On 15/12/05, Pål Jensen, discombobulated, unleashed: Why would anyone want to copy Ansel Adams (or any other photographer/photograph)? Seems to me to be the ultimate in creative bankrupcy... Seems to me to be the ultimate accolade. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: AA bis
Copy is a big word. Being influenced by the work of others is impossible to control. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sure many strive to duplicate. It wouldn't surprise me if there is Ansel Adams soft ware in the works that will give your work that look with a single key stroke. I hope not! Why? Imitation is the highest form of flattery. While it is flattering for the who is imitated it is not flattering to be a guy who just copies others work. DagT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: AA bis
Op Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:13:50 +0100 schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: fra: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:47:55 +0100 schreef Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] interesting shot for Ansel Adams fans: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html follow the last link for a related story. Why would anyone want to copy Ansel Adams (or any other photographer/photograph)? Seems to me to be the ultimate in creative bankrupcy... To learn from him? To honour him? To have a starting point for further creative exploration? To have the print cheaply ;-) In painting there _is_ a long tradition of copying/interpreting past masterworks... Interpreting and further developping of ideas, yes. So, you start by copying. I think even in photography, you learn more by copying the process than by simply studying a print. Then you really know the how, where and why of a masterpiece, and can start adding your own idea's... Pure copying is just one step away from faking it. The laws, at least in Europe, are clear in that a new piece must add something new in addition to a simple copy. Hmmm, I don't think I break any copyright laws if I recreate a photograph. And altough we're no longer willing to pay for the priviledge, the Netherlands are in Europe. (It would create great fining opportunities at tourist centres, though :o) -- Regards, Lucas
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
On 15/12/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. Pity the floor polisher left some marks ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: NTFS File Compression
Hi Tom, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:24:23 -0700, Tom C wrote: Any thoughts on using NTFS compression/compaction to save hard drive space for these folders? I looked for performance degradation statistics online but didn't find much. With a relatively fast CPU (as you have) you won't notice ... However, depending on the types of files in those folders you may or may not achieve much compression. PEF files would compress, but if most of them are JPEG's you will find compression by the filesystem does not bring much ... I'm running XP Professional with a 2.8GHz Pentium 4 and 512Mb of RAM. Fast enough for use with NTFS compression. Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: Which Flat Screen
On 15/12/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Any smearing? Well there's this bloke who I don't get on with next door - otherwise it's fine ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Which Flat Screen
Does your wife know how EVIL you are? Cotty wrote: FWIW, our 7 yr old CRT TV has been playing up and I decided to buy a flat screen TV, and snagged a close-out deal on a Dell 26 inch LCD for 369 GBP inc delivery. This one: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1772583,00.asp The connectivity is excellent, and at 267 inches, just a tad on the small side for living room TV viewing, my wife says. Little does she know this is all part of the Master Plan. A couple of years down the line: 'Yeah I guess it is a little small for watching movies on, and I saw a 30 inch at a good price the other day. Hmm? What would we do with the Dell? Hmm, now let me think' bwahahaha Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
Had to look up Ryanair LOL It seems similar to the Grace L. Ferguson Airline and Storm Door Company that I flew on for a trip to Hawaii some years ago Shel ... [Original Message] From: mike wilson http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg That's the last time I go by Ryanair.
Re: PESO - not a skimmer
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lovely shot Christian. Focal lenght says 420. What are you shooting with. Thanks, Dave. It was shot with the 300/4 IS and 1.4x TC. The exif does the multiplication :-) Christian http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-42 you can click it to make the image slightly larger.
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Don Sanderson wrote: Better? http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/whatever.pdf Don hehe... Yup, better -- attributed too - aw shucks (I could mess with you a bit and ask why the needle point version isn't done yet , but I don't know you well enough :) :) ann p.s. ERN this is your fault! -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:21 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! Duh -- I didn't realize what that link was --- OK, now take out that comma - You fixed whatever for me, but the comma doesn't belong. What? no attribution? wahwahwwahwah ann the duly quoted Don Sanderson wrote: http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/whatever.pdf Quote File, Schmote File! It's going on my wall!! ;-) (Thanx Ann) Don -Original Message- From: E.R.N. Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:51 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! Ann Sanfedele wrote: (of her subjects) it is just what ever is in front of the camera that I want to look at again... This is going in my quote file.
Re: Which Flat Screen
So here's another point of view. We replaced my work CRT (19 inches). It was high quality some 5 years ago, but getting old and a bit flacky in one corner. (Mind you, it was still great for spreadsheets, emails, and powerpoint.) We bought Samsung 910T's, 19 inch flat screens. I can't believe the change in image quality on my wallpaper. I've got some personal photos and the horse-shoe bend panorama on the play list. The deep, rich blacks really give the pictures a new 3 dimensional quality I haven't seen before, on my laptop or on my basement home computer. I'm thinking of spending $300+ just to get a Samsung 910T for home. On 12/15/05, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** good Apple Cinema Display 20 - US $799 - 2 USB 2.0 port/2 FireWire 400 port - US Street $720 - User reviews * excellent You'll want to check pricing on the 2005FPW, as it lists for $749CDN right now (On sale for $599CDN), not $799USD. Just checked Dell's site and that panel is $549USD list and currently on sale for $463.20. The Apple is $799USD or $999CDN. All prices from the respective Webstores. And those are notable differences. Godfrey listed street prices there as well. My conclusion (if anyone cares) is that this is another horses for courses case. Sure, the Apple costs more, but were you to resell it you would get more. Sure the Apple may have higher QC, but look at that price. Sure, the Dell is cheap but it does not have the street-cred of the Apple. Sure, the Apple gets 5 as opposed to 3 stars from its users but Apple is a cult and one should take user reviews with a pinch of salt. Ydda yadda yadda yadda... Kostas (yadda-yadda, yadidi yadda, yadda...) Umm, but Godfrey listed a list price for the Dell which hasn't been accurate for 6 months, LIST on the Dell is now $549USD not the $799 Godfrey listed (Street is currently the $463.20 I list also). The Apple Listed for $999USD when the Dell was $799. Big Difference. -Adam
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
Fun shot, but you need a hair light or a blond to set her head apart from the dark background archway. Bob S. On 12/15/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. take care, Glen
Re: AA bis
I'm not sure. To me,it's sort of like clicking a smile on everyone's face in a family portrait. IOW, apply degrees of your gained skill in those areas you, Don't deprive yourself of the chance to be proud of your own, and possibly better, version. Moments of delirious personal satisfaction are the engines of effort. Jack --- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sure many strive to duplicate. It wouldn't surprise me if there is Ansel Adams soft ware in the works that will give your work that look with a single key stroke. I hope not! Why? Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Kostas __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
Good point, Bob. That would definitely improve the photo a bit. Shel ... [Original Message] From: Bob Sullivan Fun shot, but you need a hair light or a blond to set her head apart from the dark background archway. Bob S. http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AA bis Pure copying is just one stept away from faking it. The laws, at least in Europe, are clear in that a new piece must add something new in addition to a simple copy. You guys may as well just put away your cameras. By now, it's all been done before. William Robb
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: AA bis Why would anyone want to copy Ansel Adams (or any other photographer/photograph)? Seems to me to be the ultimate in creative bankrupcy... Nothing bankrupt about paying homage to the masters. William Robb
Re: Grand Canyon
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell Subject: Re: Grand Canyon I find it interesting that this Grand Canyon thingie is being built by an Indian tribe. There is a common belief that American Indians do not have a fear of heights. Maybe there is some truth to that. There is a common belief (propogated by the American Indians (Canadian ones too), that they are one with nature. This horrid little blot on the landscape would put that bit of horsehockey to rest. William Robb
Re: Using the A*85/1.4
- Original Message - From: danilo Subject: Re: Using the A*85/1.4 good, were you using a digital or a film camera?? (thinkinh to the crop factor) Digital. Film is dead. William Robb
Re: OT - best place for it
I think someone around here is still driving Plymouth of that vintage, (hasn't been restored, and it looks every second of it's age). mike wilson wrote: There is at least one person on here who will probably want to be around when this surfaces. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/ap_on_fe_st/buried_car Pictures would be good. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
On Dec 15, 2005, at 12:46 AM, David Mann wrote: It pays to optimize exposure and processing for scanning if it's your primary means to render negatives to print. I normally shoot negatives for scanning to be *just* dense enough to capture the shadow details clearly, unblocked highs, and use minimal agitation to reduce grain growth. I shoot colour slide film and with its limited latitude there's not much room for optimising exposure to scan. It doesn't take much to clip the highlights and no amount of scanner adjustment will bring the detail back. I stopped shooting transparencies a decade or more ago due to the exposure latitude problems, as well as the fact that slide films were left behind by modern color negative emulsions for acutance (thinner emulsion = better acutance). Color neg scans *much* better than color slide, even with a less expensive scanner; the issue that remains is learning how to accurately color balance it. A Macbeth color check calibration exposure on every roll (or in every different lighting situation!) is worthwhile to zero in on the correct balance. Godfrey
Re: Which Flat Screen
On Dec 15, 2005, at 5:15 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** good Apple Cinema Display 20 - US $799 - 2 USB 2.0 port/2 FireWire 400 port - US Street $720 - User reviews * excellent You'll want to check pricing on the 2005FPW, as it lists for $749CDN right now (On sale for $599CDN), not $799USD. Just checked Dell's site and that panel is $549USD list and currently on sale for $463.20. The Apple is $799USD or $999CDN. All prices from the respective Webstores. And those are notable differences. Godfrey listed street prices there as well. Yes. I pulled those numbers from the manufacturers' sites, bizrate.com and pricegrabber.com moments before posting the summary. My conclusion (if anyone cares) is that this is another horses for courses case. Sure, the Apple costs more, but were you to resell it you would get more. Sure the Apple may have higher QC, but look at that price. Sure, the Dell is cheap but it does not have the street-cred of the Apple. Sure, the Apple gets 5 as opposed to 3 stars from its users but Apple is a cult and one should take user reviews with a pinch of salt. One should take all user reviews, and web/magazine reviews as well, with massive dollop of skepticism. Apple is no different. I've not found a difference in the level of inaccuracy. I see no reason for this bizarre if it's an Apple product, it must be sneered at because it's an Apple product behavior. Apple users can use any monitor they want to (Apple monitors use standard interface connection and protocols, sell very well into the Windows community) and many buy alternatives for reasons similar to those spoken (price primarily). Someone said apple has a problem with their pricing ... essentially the price is too high. Well, if that were true, they'd have trouble selling them. But the reality is that Apple is selling every monitor it can make, which is why the price has stayed as high as it is. Godfrey
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner I stopped shooting transparencies a decade or more ago due to the exposure latitude problems, as well as the fact that slide films were left behind by modern color negative emulsions for acutance (thinner emulsion = better acutance). Color neg scans *much* better than color slide, even with a less expensive scanner; the issue that remains is learning how to accurately color balance it. A Macbeth color check calibration exposure on every roll (or in every different lighting situation!) is worthwhile to zero in on the correct balance. I just wing it. If it looks good to my eye, it's probably pretty close. I use densitometers to make sure the equipment is in control, not the picture. William Robb
Re: LCD hoods
I don't really see the point of these things. If you don't use the LCD to review images, turn off the review function. If you do, and you're in sunlight, just use your hand to shade it when you're doing review. If you just want to protect it from damage and you're not using it, a piece of tape works fine. Why fit a bulky shade assembly? Godfrey On Dec 15, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Christian wrote: I have one on the 20D... It works real well. The main reason I got it was that I was getting nose prints on the LCD... I'm left eye dominant and look through the viewfinder with my left eye. The only complaint is that closing it is kinda awkward as you have to press the sides in and at the same time push the cover down. If it was a one finger operation it would be better. It also prevents chimping! :-) Has anybody used LCD hoods/protectors with *ist DS ? I see that Delkin has one http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_pop_up_shade.html more specifically: http://www.delkin.com/store/customer/product.php? productid=270cat=63page=1
Re: AA bis
Den 15. des. 2005 kl. 17.06 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AA bis Pure copying is just one stept away from faking it. The laws, at least in Europe, are clear in that a new piece must add something new in addition to a simple copy. You guys may as well just put away your cameras. By now, it's all been done before. William Robb Sure, that´s what Edison said about inventions in the 1890´s. .-) DagT
Re: Which Flat Screen
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I see no reason for this bizarre if it's an Apple product, it must be sneered at because it's an Apple product behavior. I cannot see why this is strange to you. I have encountered it with cameras, football, software, car brands... Kostas (who prefers to wait for the next taxi rather than be seen in a certain German-maker's car -- and you don't want to know what I think about Olympiakos FC in this family-oriented forum :-).
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: DagT Subject: Re: AA bis Sure, that´s what Edison said about inventions in the 1890´s. .-) This isn't the 1890s, boy. William Robb
Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???
At 10:01 AM 12/15/2005, Christian wrote: It also prevents chimping! :-) I always thought that was an odd term. Can someone please explain exactly what it means? Apparently, it means something more than simply looking at the LCD screen, because an LCD hood wouldn't prevent looking at the display. I'm also aware that the term has a negative connotation, but I'm not exactly sure why. (It would help if I knew what it meant.) ;) thanks, Glen
Re: Report on SanDisk SD GAMING (yellow) card
Sorry, yesterday I made an incorrect acknowledgement. I should've acknowledged Bob Sullivan, who pointed to that card at Staples (in the earlier thread). Sorry about that, and thank you, Bob! I got my card two days ago. Igor Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:28:15 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Hi, All! So, I'd like to report on the SanDisk SD gaming (yellow) card http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1193)-SDSDG-1024-SanDisk_Gaming_SD_1GB.aspx I bought one from the local Staples store (Thanks to P.J. Alling) - see the thread OT: rebates for SanDisk CF and SD cards. I compared it to the UltraII 1GB SD card that I purchased this summer. Comparison: Camera: *istDS in multiple shot mode, MF. Shot: the same (plus-minus vibration of my hand) Tests: 1. series of 5 shots - timing from the first moment the button is pressed until the red light (recording) goes off. Both timings are about the same (~19sec), with the Yellow card being just about 1 sec faster. 2. Pressing the button for 1 minute. Timing until the red light (recording) goes off. Total time: 1:18 (1 min 18 sec) (yellow) 1:18-1:19 (UltraII) Total number of shots: 20 (yellow), 19 (ultraII) Alternatively, if I held the button until 20 shots were fired, the total time for UltraII was 1:23. So, the conclusion is that when used for recording of images on *istDS the SanDisk Yellow gaming 1GB SD card is at least as fast as the UltraII SanDisk 1GB SD card, and even a bit faster. I hope this helps. Igor PS. Unfortunately, it is out-of-stock on Staples web site: http://tinyurl.com/aldgh Local stores also have $6 off coupon in the insert inside their Digital Photography Gifts and More brochure.
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Ansel Adams is dead so he is not easily flattered anymore... Pål
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copy is a big word. Being influenced by the work of others is impossible to control. Theres nothing wrong with influende and inspiration. Hpwever, standing litterally in someones tripod holes under the same (rare) circumstances is surely the least flattering form of copying. Pål
Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???
http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html Glen wrote: At 10:01 AM 12/15/2005, Christian wrote: It also prevents chimping! :-) I always thought that was an odd term. Can someone please explain exactly what it means? Apparently, it means something more than simply looking at the LCD screen, because an LCD hood wouldn't prevent looking at the display. I'm also aware that the term has a negative connotation, but I'm not exactly sure why. (It would help if I knew what it meant.) ;) thanks, Glen -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Report on SanDisk SD GAMING (yellow) card
Damn, and I thought I'd accidentally done a good deed. Igor Roshchin wrote: Sorry, yesterday I made an incorrect acknowledgement. I should've acknowledged Bob Sullivan, who pointed to that card at Staples (in the earlier thread). Sorry about that, and thank you, Bob! I got my card two days ago. Igor Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:28:15 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Hi, All! So, I'd like to report on the SanDisk SD gaming (yellow) card http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1193)-SDSDG-1024-SanDisk_Gaming_SD_1GB.aspx I bought one from the local Staples store (Thanks to P.J. Alling) - see the thread OT: rebates for SanDisk CF and SD cards. I compared it to the UltraII 1GB SD card that I purchased this summer. Comparison: Camera: *istDS in multiple shot mode, MF. Shot: the same (plus-minus vibration of my hand) Tests: 1. series of 5 shots - timing from the first moment the button is pressed until the red light (recording) goes off. Both timings are about the same (~19sec), with the Yellow card being just about 1 sec faster. 2. Pressing the button for 1 minute. Timing until the red light (recording) goes off. Total time: 1:18 (1 min 18 sec) (yellow) 1:18-1:19 (UltraII) Total number of shots: 20 (yellow), 19 (ultraII) Alternatively, if I held the button until 20 shots were fired, the total time for UltraII was 1:23. So, the conclusion is that when used for recording of images on *istDS the SanDisk Yellow gaming 1GB SD card is at least as fast as the UltraII SanDisk 1GB SD card, and even a bit faster. I hope this helps. Igor PS. Unfortunately, it is out-of-stock on Staples web site: http://tinyurl.com/aldgh Local stores also have $6 off coupon in the insert inside their Digital Photography Gifts and More brochure. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO: You give it a title... :)
Extreme Kegel Glen wrote: I thought some of you might like taking a peek at one of my latest images: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/ni/Barbie.jpg I'm interested in any comments you might have. take care, Glen
Re: AA bis
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 06:54:12PM +0100, P?l Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copy is a big word. Being influenced by the work of others is impossible to control. Theres nothing wrong with influende and inspiration. Hpwever, standing litterally in someones tripod holes under the same (rare) circumstances is surely the least flattering form of copying. I don't know about that. Perhaps all they will manage to do is to show that if you aren't Ansel Adams, you just don't end up with as good a print, even with all the advantages of modern imaging technology.
Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:37:38PM -0500, Glen wrote: At 10:01 AM 12/15/2005, Christian wrote: It also prevents chimping! :-) I always thought that was an odd term. Can someone please explain exactly what it means? Apparently, it means something more than simply looking at the LCD screen, It does indeed. It refers to the collective behaviour of a group of photographers, all standing around peering at their LCD screens, and going Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! I'm also aware that the term has a negative connotation, but I'm not exactly sure why. (It would help if I knew what it meant.) ;) There's an implication that quite apart from sounding like a bunch of chimpanzees, the photographers are also not paying attention to the world around them, and may well miss a shot because of this. That's especially likely with cameras which (unlike the Pentax DSLRs) can't respond to a shutter press while in image review mode.
B+H
Anyone knows how quick B+H are to ship the orders? My order has been under processing for three days now. The item is still listed as in stock and my card has been charged I had hoped to get the scanner til christmas Pål
Re: B+H
call or email them directly. they've always been pretty good at service with fast delivery, but you're looking at the peak holiday purchase/shipping time of year right now. Godfrey On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Pål Jensen wrote: Anyone knows how quick B+H are to ship the orders? My order has been under processing for three days now. The item is still listed as in stock and my card has been charged I had hoped to get the scanner til christmas Pål
Re: AA bis
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:35:55 +0100, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 06:54:12PM +0100, P?l Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copy is a big word. Being influenced by the work of others is impossible to control. Theres nothing wrong with influende and inspiration. Hpwever, standing litterally in someones tripod holes under the same (rare) circumstances is surely the least flattering form of copying. I don't know about that. Perhaps all they will manage to do is to show that if you aren't Ansel Adams, you just don't end up with as good a print, even with all the advantages of modern imaging technology. I wouldn't be surprised :/ How about this one: http://www.jenny.dds.nl/lucas/pdml/index.html ? (disclaimer: it was just for fun: no flattering or creativity involved :o) -- Regards, Lucas
PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/242720 Hope I am getting out of my yet another dry spell. What do you say? Honest and brutal please. Thanks. Boris
Re: LCD hoods
Did you even read my response Godfrey? I wrote that it prevented nose prints on the LCD. Perhaps I don't want to use tape? Allow others some opinions and thoughts It's not always about what YOU think. Bad mood today? The ipeople thing still bothering you? Sheesh Christian - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: Re: LCD hoods I don't really see the point of these things. If you don't use the LCD to review images, turn off the review function. If you do, and you're in sunlight, just use your hand to shade it when you're doing review. If you just want to protect it from damage and you're not using it, a piece of tape works fine. Why fit a bulky shade assembly? Godfrey On Dec 15, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Christian wrote: I have one on the 20D... It works real well. The main reason I got it was that I was getting nose prints on the LCD... I'm left eye dominant and look through the viewfinder with my left eye. The only complaint is that closing it is kinda awkward as you have to press the sides in and at the same time push the cover down. If it was a one finger operation it would be better. It also prevents chimping! :-) Has anybody used LCD hoods/protectors with *ist DS ? I see that Delkin has one http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_pop_up_shade.html more specifically: http://www.delkin.com/store/customer/product.php? productid=270cat=63page=1
Re: B+H
At 12:44 PM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Anyone knows how quick B+H are to ship the orders? My order has been under processing for three days now. The item is still listed as in stock and my card has been charged I had hoped to get the scanner til christmas They have always been very quick for me. When does Hannukah start? If it's a Jewish holiday, they close. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 12/14/2005
Re: LCD hoods
I was expressing my opinion, the question was rhetorical. Isn't that what we're supposed to do here? Godfrey On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote: Did you even read my response Godfrey? I wrote that it prevented nose prints on the LCD. Perhaps I don't want to use tape? Allow others some opinions and thoughts It's not always about what YOU think. Bad mood today? The ipeople thing still bothering you? Sheesh Christian
Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???
Thanks, that helped. ;) I had one photographer tease me about looking at my LCD after taking some shots, but I don't consider what I did any different than a first-rate advertising photographer shooting and inspecting a Polaroid preview image. Some of the biggest names in the business shot Polaroid tests. In fact, it was a mark of professionals, not amateurs. This particular photographer asked me what I would have done if I had been shooting with my film camera. I said I would have worried more about whether I got the exact shot I wanted, had it been film. With digital, I can know exactly when I have the shot I want and move on to something else. It actually makes more efficient use of my time, to look at the capture. I don't consider what I do to be chimping, as defined by that very fun little video clip. As for the other photographer, I saw some of his shots later. I think he should have checked his LCD more often. ;) take care, Glen At 01:07 PM 12/15/2005, P. J. Alling wrote: http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html Glen wrote: At 10:01 AM 12/15/2005, Christian wrote: It also prevents chimping! :-) I always thought that was an odd term. Can someone please explain exactly what it means? Apparently, it means something more than simply looking at the LCD screen, because an LCD hood wouldn't prevent looking at the display. I'm also aware that the term has a negative connotation, but I'm not exactly sure why. (It would help if I knew what it meant.) ;) thanks, Glen
Re: PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
The lighting and composition is very good. Quite a nice photo. I like how the geometries of the table and her posture interact too. (I'm not so fond of the pose with a cigarette, though, mostly because I just don't like tobacco stink when I'm having my coffee in the morning... :-) Godfrey On Dec 15, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/242720 Hope I am getting out of my yet another dry spell. What do you say? Honest and brutal please. Thanks. Boris
Re: B+H
I ordered 2 Optio 60s for our kids last Friday, they arrived this Tuesday. Very nice service. I've never had a problem with BH. DG At 07:44 PM 12/15/2005 +0100, you wrote: Anyone knows how quick B+H are to ship the orders? My order has been under processing for three days now. The item is still listed as in stock and my card has been charged I had hoped to get the scanner til christmas Pål
OT/FS: SMCP-F* 300mm f4.5 ED (IF) AF lens
I have listed this on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-F-300mm-f4-5-ED-IF-AF-lens-300-mm_W0QQitemZ7573145671QQcategoryZ48558QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Cheers, Cliff __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT/FS: SMCP-F* 300mm f4.5 ED (IF) AF lens
- Original Message - From: Cliff Nietvelt Subject: OT/FS: SMCP-F* 300mm f4.5 ED (IF) AF lens I have listed this on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-F-300mm-f4-5-ED-IF-AF-lens-300-mm_W0QQitemZ7573145671QQcategoryZ48558QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And a fine lens it is, too. William Robb
Optio 60 impressions
I got my new Optio 60 a few days ago. I really haven't had too much of a chance of shooting with it, but these are my impressions so far: - It is a bit thicker than I'd like. The main thing is that the lens doesn't go in flat against the body, but it's surrounded by a ring that protrudes about five millimeters. I knew this, so no complains. - Build quality is OK. It is not one of the brushed aluminium Optios, though, but not bad for a $170 digicam. - I'd like the fact that settings are remembered when the camera is turned off. My flash is off by default now. - The electronics are slow. The camera takes forever to show an image. About two seconds to go from one image to the next when in play mode. This is worse than my 2002 Minolta Dimage X (a 2MP camera, but it was 2002) - The Av, Tv and M modes are kind of hard to use. Changing the exposure requires pressing 'OK', then selecting aperture and speed from a menu. No exposure check, other than the image becoming lighter/darker in the lcd when half pressing the shutter. - The display off mode just turns off the lcd backlight. In certain situations (like when out in the sun and at some angles) you can still see the lcd is working when the display is off. This might be usual in some cameras, but it is the first time I notice it. - Image quality seems good for a 6MP jpeg. I need to shoot more with it to make a judgement. Overall, it is not bad for such a cheap camera. I'm spoiled by the Dimage X in terms of size, so I'm thinking about getting a Dimage X1 (8MP, ~$300), but just because I realized I want something really small. It is interesting that Premier, the company that makes this camera for Pentax, already has an 8MP ps: http://www.premierimage.com.tw/premiere/003/003.htm Will this be called Optio 80? I'll post links to pictures here when I shoot something worthwhile. j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: AA bis
Exactly. You got my point. Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copy is a big word. Being influenced by the work of others is impossible to control. Theres nothing wrong with influende and inspiration. Hpwever, standing litterally in someones tripod holes under the same (rare) circumstances is surely the least flattering form of copying. Pål __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
