Re: Samsung DSLR announced
In a message dated 1/18/2006 9:10:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This agreement works for both parties. Initially: Pentax gets K mount cameras and lenses they've built into Samsung's distribution stream. Samsung gets a DSLR line with their brand on it, and a supply of good quality lenses to sell. In the long run: Pentax gets RD help on their DSLR line and probably lower prices on components. Samsung gets lenses for their new DSLR line and camera design expertise. Samsung cameras will probably sell for less in big box stores that Pentax no longer has a presence in. Will it work? Who knows. === I agree with all that, but I have a yes but... Yes, but... a Samsung DS2 rebadged competes with a Pentax DS2. Which is NOT good for Pentax because Samsung has better distribution outlets and greater name recognition with the general public. So basically Pentax can't sell DS2s once Samsung starts selling them. Which means Pentax has to concentrate on upper end stuff or stay one step ahead of what Samsung releases -- with new technology, new features, more mp or something. OTOH, help from Samsung, financially or otherwise, for Pentax's DSLR RD is a big boon. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Samsung DSLR announced
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:09:08AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/18/2006 9:10:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This agreement works for both parties. Initially: Pentax gets K mount cameras and lenses they've built into Samsung's distribution stream. Samsung gets a DSLR line with their brand on it, and a supply of good quality lenses to sell. In the long run: Pentax gets RD help on their DSLR line and probably lower prices on components. Samsung gets lenses for their new DSLR line and camera design expertise. Samsung cameras will probably sell for less in big box stores that Pentax no longer has a presence in. Will it work? Who knows. === I agree with all that, but I have a yes but... Yes, but... a Samsung DS2 rebadged competes with a Pentax DS2. Which is NOT good for Pentax because Samsung has better distribution outlets and greater name recognition with the general public. So basically Pentax can't sell DS2s once Samsung starts selling them. Which means Pentax has to concentrate on upper end stuff or stay one step ahead of what Samsung releases -- with new technology, new features, more mp or something. Those cameras may have the name 'Samsung' blazoned across the front, but they still come off a Pentax production line, and earn money for Pentax. Sure, the profit has to be split with Samsung, but a small piece of a large pie is considerably better than the whole of a much smaller pie. I'd expect Pentax will make more profit from selling Samsung-badged cameras than they would ever make selling the same model under a Pentax brand. So this _is_ good for Pentax; they have extra money to throw into the RD pot. Pentax are more likely to have the funds to develop a serious DSLR to go head-to-head with the D200 30D (and more likely to be able to sell such a camera as an upgrade to entry-level DSLR purchasers) with the increased revenue and increased market share that the Samsung deal should bring them.
RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2006 23:56 To: pentax list Subject: Re: SV: Tripod Dilemma On 18/1/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: A Bonbo Trecker That's the French candy version I thought it was for small digital photographers. (Pygmy chimping...bonobo...?) Sorry. Bob
OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... Regards, Jaume __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
On 19 Jan 2006 at 9:46, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... A hint of what's to come for Pentax possibly. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount?
I bought a cheap Sirius 135mm PK-A lens on eBay, when I attempted to fit it to my MZ-5n it jammed in a position about 30 degrees short of where it should be. Now it won't come out. It knocks as though something has locked. On close inspection it turns out to be a PK-R Ricoh-fitting. So, does anyone know how to get a cheap PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount? Without destroying the camera? Yours hopefully, Mark
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:46:40 +0100 schreef Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html Yes, sad :( It's a bit unclear what really is going to happen: it seems KM will keep on producing SLR's and lenses for Sony? If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... Pentax _stated_ they would keep marketing camera's under their own brand. The announcement of the Samsung GX-1S (before any takeover announcements) is consistent with this. Besides: the deal with Samsung excludes camera's over $1500,-, like the D645 (and of course the D-LX :p). I think Pentax will stay around for a while... __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. This is probably not what I think it is :o) Would be handy to carry a tripod through the Andes, though... -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Samsung DSLR announced
Op Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:10:00 +0100 schreef John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:40:54 -, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: Samsung DSLR announced Hi John. Not to be contentious, but... what *is* Schneider supplying, ? Apparently, just a name. What's strange is that even if many potential camera-buyers nowadays are more likely to have heard of Samsung than Pentax, it's extremely unlikely that they will ever have heard of Schneider-Kreuznach. So what's going on? Did some bright S-K man convince the Koreans that S-K is a household name in Europe and the Americas? Even in the my-camera-has-more-megapixels-than-yours digicam market a significant part of the buyers knows that the lens is important for the final image quality. This is a major advantage for the 'classic' five camera brands. The 'new' camera manufacturers are countering by putting a famous lensmakers' name on the camera: Zeiss for Sony, Leica for Panasonic, Schneider-Kreuznach for Kodak and Samsung, Pentax for Casio and HP. If it's important in the digicam market, I'd say it's even more important in the SLR-market. If you buy a SLR, you care about image quality, don't you? -- Regards, Lucas
OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount?
Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:02:27 +0100 schreef Mark Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I bought a cheap Sirius 135mm PK-A lens on eBay, when I attempted to fit it to my MZ-5n it jammed in a position about 30 degrees short of where it should be. Now it won't come out. It knocks as though something has locked. On close inspection it turns out to be a PK-R Ricoh-fitting. So, does anyone know how to get a cheap PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount? Without destroying the camera? I've seen several solutions. In the order I would try them: 1) Try to slip something (stiff paper, razorblade) between lens and mount, to see if you can push up the pin. 2) Dismantle the lens. Try to reach the mount from the back, remove the spring that pushes out the pin. On some lenses, this appears to be rather simple. On others, you might destroy the lens. 3) Send it to a repair service. At least Pentax repair in the US seems to know how to tackle the problem. They probably use 1) or 2), but know what they're doing :-) 4) Use force to twist the lens of. _Probably_ the pin will fail before the mount. No guarantees. I hope you manage to get it of, -- Regards, Lucas
Re: SV: Tripod Dilemma
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/18 Wed PM 10:42:54 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: SV: Tripod Dilemma A Bonbo Trecker is carbon fibre - very light and versatile - and apr. 500 USD. But, man is that nice! I'll probably never get one of those :-/ Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk You can have mine for 300 - although I have to warn you that it seems to be made out of steel. 8-) -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. januar 2006 21:32 Til: pentax list Emne: Re: Tripod Dilemma On 18/1/06, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Another great example of how capitalism produces more choice and diversity. :-/ Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
Re: Samsung DSLR announced
In a message dated 1/19/2006 12:28:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd expect Pentax will make more profit from selling Samsung-badged cameras than they would ever make selling the same model under a Pentax brand. So this _is_ good for Pentax; they have extra money to throw into the RD pot. Pentax are more likely to have the funds to develop a serious DSLR to go head-to-head with the D200 30D (and more likely to be able to sell such a camera as an upgrade to entry-level DSLR purchasers) with the increased revenue and increased market share that the Samsung deal should bring them. === Good point, re making more money on rebadged. Okay. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
In a message dated 1/19/2006 1:23:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Cheers, Cotty And the same thing couldn't happen with Pentax and Samsung? Not trying to be a doom sayer, and negative, but just wondering if things might go a little different from has been speculated about on this list. Recently. I don't want it to go the same way... but... maybe better to be semi-prepared if it does... Marnie aka Doe Lenses would still be good.
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Another great example of how capitalism produces more choice and diversity. :-/ The way I read it one goes out, one goes in. Shame about the brand name. Concern about the employees. Kostas
Re: A reflection on digital camera use.
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kenneth Waller wrote: Digital is like trying to make love to a hooker ... ;-)) Shel, I'm worried about the trying part... I think I get what he means though. Kostas
Re: Either my Z-1p is confused, or I am...
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When using flash in (Hy)P or Av with an F or later lens, my Z-1 and MZ-50 generally observe the 1/fl rule. The Z-1p seems more than a stop more optimistic about what's hand-holdable. Now I _am_ getting better at hand-holding, but not in the situations I tend to use P-mode... I've just checked my 1p, and it seems to be the same (i.e. for a f.l. of 28mm the speed chosen was 1/20, with the 24-90 around 50 the speed changed - while rotating slightly the zoom ring - between 1/45 and 1/30). Is it the same or the speeds your camera sets are slower? Mine are the same. I really dislike that feature of the Z-1p. Mine is also very reticent to change these values with the thumbwheel. Kostas
Re: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/19 Thu AM 09:55:37 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out In a message dated 1/19/2006 1:23:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Cheers, Cotty And the same thing couldn't happen with Pentax and Samsung? Not trying to be a doom sayer, and negative, but just wondering if things might go a little different from has been speculated about on this list. Recently. I don't want it to go the same way... but... maybe better to be semi-prepared if it does... Marnie aka Doe Lenses would still be good. KM was a merger of two photography related organisations. (Incidentally, Konica is, I believe, the oldest photographic company in the world) PS is an alliance of a photo manufacturer and a selling organisation. The dynamics are considerably different. I am wondering what KM is going to do, as it could not make a living in one of the consumer growth markets. Tantos all round for senior management, I think. m p.s. Glad to see you are still here, Marnie. Your advice on Nightshade plants has worked miracles for me. I am deeply indebted. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma
mike wilson wrote: You can have mine for 300 - although I have to warn you that it seems to be made out of steel. 8-) The application of a power drill here and there would create a multitude of holes and reduce weight. The Swiss Cheese tripod for the Swiss Tony photographer. Drilling holes in a tripod is like... Malcolm
Re: Either my Z-1p is confused, or I am...
Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:11:21 +0100 schreef Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When using flash in (Hy)P or Av with an F or later lens, my Z-1 and MZ-50 generally observe the 1/fl rule. The Z-1p seems more than a stop more optimistic about what's hand-holdable. Now I _am_ getting better at hand-holding, butnot in the situations I tend to use P-mode... I've just checked my 1p, and it seems to be the same (i.e. for a f.l. of 28mm the speed chosen was 1/20, with the 24-90 around 50 the speed changed - while rotating slightly the zoom ring - between 1/45 and 1/30). Is it the same or the speeds your camera sets are slower? Hi Kostas, Mine are the same. That settles it, I think. If anything, I'm glad the camera is o.k. I really dislike that feature of the Z-1p. I agree. There probabaly isn't a hack/trick/pentax function to rectify the behaviour? Mine is also very reticent to change these values with the thumbwheel. It takes two 'clicks' here: one to switch from HyP to Tv, one to change the shutterspeed one stop. That is expected behaviour, I think? Or am I missing your point? -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Samsung DSLR announced
Op Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:19:22 +0100 schreef Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lucas Rijnders Did anyone else notice that the photo's leaked in December were of a GX-1L, with a slightly different mode dial. Could there be a second Samsung D-SLR coming soon? I did. That will probably be the Samsung incarnation of the *istDL, or of a next DL2. It appears the GX-1L was announced shortly after the GX-1S. It looks like an *ist-DL with five AF-sensors instead of three, and a slightly bigger viewfinder: 96%(0,85x), instead of 95%(0,85x). Unless Pentax announces an identical *ist-DL2 soon, these would be unique features. Sensor is still the same... Source: http://www.digitalkamera.de/Info/News/31/28.htm -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
On Jan 19, 2006, at 3:46 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... Regards, Jaume You can see the actual press releases here: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_02_01.html http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_01_01.html Bob
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not trying to be a doom sayer, and negative, but just wondering if things might go a little different from has been speculated about on this list. Recently. Ha! I'm glad you added 'recently' 'cos the only way things could go differently than is normally speculated on this list would be for Pentax to be succesful :-) Chris
New Samsung GX-1L (was: Samsung DSLR announced)
Apparently, the current Pentax strategy is: Few, damned and ready. With a given manufacturing capability, it's better to sell a whole bunch of cameras to Samsung than going nuts to sell them on the market at decreasing prices. Dario - Original Message - From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Samsung DSLR announced Op Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:19:22 +0100 schreef Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lucas Rijnders Did anyone else notice that the photo's leaked in December were of a GX-1L, with a slightly different mode dial. Could there be a second Samsung D-SLR coming soon? I did. That will probably be the Samsung incarnation of the *istDL, or of a next DL2. It appears the GX-1L was announced shortly after the GX-1S. It looks like an *ist-DL with five AF-sensors instead of three, and a slightly bigger viewfinder: 96%(0,85x), instead of 95%(0,85x). Unless Pentax announces an identical *ist-DL2 soon, these would be unique features. Sensor is still the same... Source: http://www.digitalkamera.de/Info/News/31/28.htm -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Yes, is definitely true. When I wrote the first message it was a thread in a forum and a link to an (easily 'fakeable') webpage, so I preferred to be prudent. Now it is in the news of all digital photo websites. Thanks, Jaume --- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Jan 19, 2006, at 3:46 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... Regards, Jaume You can see the actual press releases here: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_02_01.html http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_01_01.html Bob __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com
large format scanner camera
for those who don't read slashdot: http://www.scannerphotography.com/photographyGallery/vehicles/index.html wow! danilo
Re: Archiving DVDs followup
How about one copy at work and one copy at home. Regards, Bob S. On 1/18/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the beginning of the year I asked about DVDs: -R vs +R, archivability etc. The -R/+R thing turned out to be a non-issue for me as the price is the same and compatibility isn't a big requirement for my use. Archiving is a different story... the stability of the dye is one issue but the manufacturing quality and storage conditions are probably more important. After searching out the local market and chasing a couple of dead ends, I eventually found a good supply of TDK which seems to be a very reputable brand of DVDs. I originally wanted Verbatim DataLife Plus discs but I could only find them as singles with full-sized jewel cases at quite a high price. The TDK ones I bought come in a 10-pack with slim jewel cases which is exactly what I wanted. For storage I have purchased two appropriately-sized food containers which have an excellent airtight seal right around the lid. I plan to burn two copies of each disc and place one copy in each container. One container will stay in the house, and the other in the (detached) garage. The second one may end up in a relative's house as it's probably still possible for a fire to jump across the house/garage gap. Both containers will also contain a packet of silica gel to ensure a dry environment. I just have to hope that the plastic doesn't leach nasty chemicals, and that it's impermeable to water vapour. I hope I don't sound too paranoid, but once I've archived my files they'll eventually be deleted from my hard drive to reclaim space. I do plan to eventually buy a really big hdd but that's not feasible right now... and these files don't need to be instantly accessible. - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/
Re: Archiving DVDs followup
Archiving is a different story... the stability of the dye is one issue but the manufacturing quality and storage conditions are probably more important. After searching out the local market and chasing a couple of dead ends, I eventually found a good supply of TDK which seems to be a very reputable brand of DVDs. I originally wanted Verbatim DataLife Plus discs but I could only find them as singles with full-sized jewel cases at quite a high price. Verbatim have always been a quality product, in fact they are somewhat of an industry standard, with compatibility with just about all readers and writers. Part of the reason for this is the Ritek dye used by Verbatim possibly the best available, other media using Ritek dye are Traxdata (a Ritek brand) and Ridata if you can find them. John John Whittingham Technician you can't be optimistic with a misty optic The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Jostein the paranoid. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: new Zeiss m42 lenses!
Jens, I use the *ist D screwed to an extension tube five inches long that has a lens at the far end. It works beautifully. A bunch of pictures taken with this setup can be accessed from the red 'Prints' button on my website. Give me a call on Skype if you like. It may look like I'm off-line, but I normally choose to be invisible. Don Jens Bladt wrote: This makes it even more usefull to have Pentax DSLR's that allows for off-A full aperture metering :-) How does a Screw mount lens work on a Pentax *ist D, anyone, please? Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. januar 2006 03:24 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: new Zeiss m42 lenses! http://tinyurl.com/8fuh5 best, mishka -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams http://www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/index.htm See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Print Gallery-- 16 11 2005
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:52:43 +0100 schreef Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Lens mounts is one thing, RAW files another :/ -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Pentax lens rebates
I refer you to the Pentax USA site, the coupon item 13 under Please note these additonal terms of the offer 13) Request for rebate must be postmarked within 30 days of purchase. - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Pentax lens rebates Doesn't say that on any of the forms... Bob S. On 1/18/06, Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wait 30 days to submit the rebate and it won't matter what you send. 30 days after the receipt date and it is void. That is what I did and now I don't have to wonder about the status of my rebate. - Original Message - From: Pat Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: Pentax lens rebates Greetings, For those of you who have purchsed a Pentax lens under the current rebate promotion, I have a question. The box my lens (DA 16-45 from BH) came in had a bar code sticker placed over the bar code printed on the box. Any ideas as to if I can submit the sticker as the original UPC or if I have to cut the actual box? Would rather preserve the box if I can. Thanks, Pat in SF
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
fra: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:52:43 +0100 schreef Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Lens mounts is one thing, RAW files another :/ They'll be the first to charge for each exposure you make, or at least download from the camera. It's not that bad, the film manufactorers charged you both for each exposure and for each print you got. Why shouldn't digital cameras work the same way .-) DagT
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Jostein wrote: Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Jostein the paranoid. Sure, just try putting a Tamron lens on that sucker and it alerts the FBI, CIA, NSA, and other agencies too secret to have initials. You are immediately arrested for being a photographer, since everyone knows that photographers are terrorists. Bob
OT Pentax but photo related
Stories and pictures from the Gulf Coast areas hit by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Two good friends of mine, who teach journalism and photojournalism at San Antonio College, took six of their students on a working trip during Christmas break and this publication was the result. I thought it worth sharing, despite their use of Canon DSLRs ... http://www.theranger.org/ further particulars here http://www.theranger.org/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/01/13/43a0557f35485
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
I am wondering if it will be sony dslr with k/m mount and zeiss lenses (like samsung with pk and scneider)? dying to see a panasonic with om/rodenstock :) best, mishka
Re: GFM - Can't Make It This Year
On 1/19/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wouldn't that be eh tu for you Frank? annsan just couldn't stay out of this Oh, sure, anti-Canadian bigotry rears its ugly head yet again... LOL -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:52 +0100 schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: fra: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:52:43 +0100 schreef Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Lens mounts is one thing, RAW files another :/ They'll be the first to charge for each exposure you make, or at least download from the camera. It's not that bad, the film manufactorers charged you both for each exposure and for each print you got. Why shouldn't digital cameras work the same way .-) Makes a lot of sense: the real money is in consumables, not in equipment evil grin. -- Regards, Lucas
Re: MX mirror sticking
On 1/18/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During my ongoing overhaul of a Spotmatic, I've learned two things about Pentax repair that might apply to your situation. First, there's a chance that the shutter curtain doesn't have enough tension on it to release the mirror after travelling. snip Your reply, Scott, reminds me that when I first got my MX several years ago (obviously used), the mirror would stick up about every 10 shots or so. I don't recall that it happened any more at the faster shutter speeds than the slow ones. Whatever the case, a CLA fixed the problem. The repair shop surmised that it was merely gunk in the shutter rails that made the shutter stick (after it actually fired) so that it couldn't complete its cycle. Since the mirror mechanism and the shutter mechanism are connected, the shutter cycle affects the mirror. I've always thought that when buying a used camera a CLA should be considered part of the purchase price. As for the flickering leds, I've heard this to be a not uncommon problem, but I can't offer any advice there. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Unusurprising. KM was years late to the DSLR game and it seems to have killed them. Even Pentax has a much larger share of the (profitable) DSLR market, but then again, the *istD was on the market almost 2 years before the Maxxum 7D arrived. -Adam Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... Regards, Jaume __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - White forest
On 1/14/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lost contact with the list several times the last weeks, so I ´ll combine a test with a PESO. This was what the woods close to Oslo looked like last week. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=213843 Now all the snow is gone :-( DagT Wow! That's quite stunning. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Take for granted a Panasonic with FourThirds-mount Leica lenses. Dario - Original Message - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out I am wondering if it will be sony dslr with k/m mount and zeiss lenses (like samsung with pk and scneider)? dying to see a panasonic with om/rodenstock :) best, mishka
Re: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/19 Thu PM 01:04:54 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand? Unusurprising. KM was years late to the DSLR game and it seems to have killed them. Even Pentax has a much larger share of the (profitable) DSLR market, but then again, the *istD was on the market almost 2 years before the Maxxum 7D arrived. Didn't Mike Johnston buy one of those? -Adam Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... Regards, Jaume __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Not surprising, IMHO. They were too late to the DSLR market (way behind Pentax, even!) And I think they hurt themselves by diluting the Minolta name when they merged with Konica. There's no reason why they couldn't have marketed cameras and photographic equipment under the name Minolta even after the merger, if they'd wanted to. I also suspect they didn't weather the total lens mount revision of the 80's as well as Canon did - not having Canon's clout and user base, after all. (And who came up with that stupid proprietary flash shoe thing, anyway?) A lot of little things adding up. Now their product line will continue under the Sony brand, apparently, but they'll be competing with the Samsung-branded-Pentax products, for the most part. The Serious Photography pie is now a three-way split between Nikon, Canon and Pentax. Of course, the difference between the two is becoming increasingly blurred... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Either my Z-1p is confused, or I am...
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lucas Rijnders wrote: It takes two 'clicks' here: one to switch from HyP to Tv, one to change the shutterspeed one stop. That is expected behaviour, I think? Or am I missing your point? Is this the case also if not using flash? I think it goes to Tv just by flicking the thumbwheel (thus *Hyper*Program), but cannot check right now. Kostas
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
mike wilson wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/19 Thu PM 01:04:54 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand? Unusurprising. KM was years late to the DSLR game and it seems to have killed them. Even Pentax has a much larger share of the (profitable) DSLR market, but then again, the *istD was on the market almost 2 years before the Maxxum 7D arrived. Didn't Mike Johnston buy one of those? -Adam Yep, but he's about the only one who did. -Adam
Re: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
On 1/19/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Mike Johnston buy one of those? Yes, but he only used it to take photos of cats and flowers... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Jostein wrote: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Don't be silly. The only thing that will change is that you will need an optional, propriatory, Sony finger so as to trip the shutter. Kostas
Re: Either my Z-1p is confused, or I am...
Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:35:46 +0100 schreef Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lucas Rijnders wrote: It takes two 'clicks' here: one to switch from HyP to Tv, one to change the shutterspeed one stop. That is expected behaviour, I think? Or am I missing your point? Is this the case also if not using flash? I think it goes to Tv just by flicking the thumbwheel (thus *Hyper*Program), but cannot check right now. No, it needs two clicks on the thumb (or more accurately 'index'-) wheel. That even makes some sense: it allows you to 'lock' aperture or shutter as soon as you're happy with it... I think the 'Hyper' part is that you don't have to change modes... It feels the same as the Z-1, but I don't have that one with me right now to make sure... -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unusurprising. KM was years late to the DSLR game and it seems to have killed them. Even Pentax has a much larger share of the (profitable) DSLR market, but then again, the *istD was on the market almost 2 years before the Maxxum 7D arrived. Didn't Mike Johnston buy one of those? I think so. I haven't emailed him for a while but I'm pretty sure he was planning on getting one. I kind of liked the concept behind the camera. Not necessarily the in-camera IS (thought that's nice) but the idea of having most of the controls accessible via external controls rather than computer-driven menus. It resulted in an ugly camera but I'll bet it was nice to use (reviews seem to have said as much). The Pentax DSLR's sure are prettier but I often find myself wishing there were a simpler way of changing a setting or two. Of course, it would appear that the Pentax approach worked better from a marketing standpoint g. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - White forest
fra: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/14/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lost contact with the list several times the last weeks, so I ´ll combine a test with a PESO. This was what the woods close to Oslo looked like last week. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=213843 Now all the snow is gone :-( DagT Wow! That's quite stunning. Thanks Frank! Now the forecast says 50cm of snow the next two days, so I'll try to take som more pictures of it... DagT
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Jostein wrote: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Don't be silly. The only thing that will change is that you will need an optional, propriatory, Sony finger so as to trip the shutter. And this proprietary Sony Finger will be installed on your hand without your knowledge or permission when you're not looking... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Clearing fungus
Sand blasting. Dave On 1/19/06, Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's probably archived. But just so it's fresh in everyone's mind ... I've got a Super Multi Coated Takumar 50/1.4 with fungus. It's netted over an internal surface. What should be done to possibly erase the fungus? (Or would someone like to get it for $10 (and that include US shipping)? ) Collin
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Mark Roberts wrote on 19.01.06 15:00: And this proprietary Sony Finger will be installed on your hand without your knowledge or permission when you're not looking... And your credit card will be charged for 500$ every month :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/19 Thu PM 01:37:13 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand? mike wilson wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/19 Thu PM 01:04:54 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand? Unusurprising. KM was years late to the DSLR game and it seems to have killed them. Even Pentax has a much larger share of the (profitable) DSLR market, but then again, the *istD was on the market almost 2 years before the Maxxum 7D arrived. Didn't Mike Johnston buy one of those? -Adam Yep, but he's about the only one who did. The curse of Wislon strikes. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/19 Thu PM 02:00:39 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Jostein wrote: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Don't be silly. The only thing that will change is that you will need an optional, propriatory, Sony finger so as to trip the shutter. And this proprietary Sony Finger will be installed on your hand without your knowledge or permission when you're not looking... And when a properly appointed representative of the Law asks Who's been a naughty boy, then? the finger will point involuntarily to you. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: Clearing fungus
No, no, no, that's how you make a soft focus lens. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:06 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clearing fungus Sand blasting. Dave On 1/19/06, Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's probably archived. But just so it's fresh in everyone's mind ... I've got a Super Multi Coated Takumar 50/1.4 with fungus. It's netted over an internal surface. What should be done to possibly erase the fungus? (Or would someone like to get it for $10 (and that include US shipping)? ) Collin
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/19/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Mike Johnston buy one of those? Yes, but he only used it to take photos of cats and flowers... SPLORF! Wipes coffee off computer monitor ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
fra: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Jostein wrote: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Don't be silly. The only thing that will change is that you will need an optional, propriatory, Sony finger so as to trip the shutter. And this proprietary Sony Finger will be installed on your hand without your knowledge or permission when you're not looking... And when a properly appointed representative of the Law asks Who's been a naughty boy, then? the finger will point involuntarily to you. And it will refuse to press OK for any download of unlicenced music, movies or software... DagT
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
On 1/19/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPLORF! Wipes coffee off computer monitor ;-) I think the Mike Johnston and cat and flower photos genre of humour is nearing the end of the line, but I'm glad I could squeeze one more good 'un out of it. LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: large format scanner camera
On 1/19/06, danilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those who don't read slashdot: http://www.scannerphotography.com/photographyGallery/vehicles/index.html wow! danilo Not found -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Zeniter on PZ-1and metering
Hey troops. I was out Sunday shooting the 16mm on the istD and PZ-1 with BW,GASP,FILMvbg istD seems to work as such: compose, focus, green button, shoot. Usually need about -0.3 comp or so which i will assume is because of the larger light gathering surface.. PZ-1 i was setting F stop, camera in Hyp M mode. Tv seems to move when moving aperature ring, but i dont see any button to push like in the older stop down metering lenses. Light in finder does not get darker or brighter when moving A ring. Is the PZ-1 metering properly this way with the Zeniter. I shot what i hope will be some decent bridge/river shots, and i'd hate to think i didi something wrong.I won't be developing them for a week or two when the darkroom classes start again. (Yup taking it ONE more time.:-)) Comments, or do i have to go out at -25 again and reshoot. I;m asking as i have never used non KA lenses on the PZ-1. Dave
Re: The Future of Film?
- Original Message - From: Butch Black Subject: Re: The Future of Film? I'd be curious if you think a higher percentage of business lost was from who had some clue about taking pictures. Absolutely, as much as any Wal-Mart customers have a clue about taking pictures.. Film users are becoming digital users, net result, no film being shot any more by that customer. People are not switching back and forth from film to digital. They are just switching. As far as who is switching, there doesn't really seem to be a definitive demographic. My oldest digital camera user turns 90 pretty soon. Most single use cameras have always been submitted by young girls (under 12) and teenagers. William Robb
Re: Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount?
- Original Message - From: Mark Steele Subject: Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount? I bought a cheap Sirius 135mm PK-A lens on eBay, when I attempted to fit it to my MZ-5n it jammed in a position about 30 degrees short of where it should be. Now it won't come out. It knocks as though something has locked. On close inspection it turns out to be a PK-R Ricoh-fitting. So, does anyone know how to get a cheap PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount? Without destroying the camera? PK-R mount is not quite compatable with the Pentax AF mount. There is a slot on the lens mount that fouls the AF drive pin. Try switching the camera to manual focus and see if rattling the lens back and forth doesn't allow the AF pin to disengage and retract. Failing this, send it to a repair shop. William Robb
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unusurprising. KM was years late to the DSLR game and it seems to have killed them. Even Pentax has a much larger share of the (profitable) DSLR market, but then again, the *istD was on the market almost 2 years before the Maxxum 7D arrived. Didn't Mike Johnston buy one of those? I think so. I haven't emailed him for a while but I'm pretty sure he was planning on getting one. I kind of liked the concept behind the camera. Not necessarily the in-camera IS (thought that's nice) but the idea of having most of the controls accessible via external controls rather than computer-driven menus. It resulted in an ugly camera but I'll bet it was nice to use (reviews seem to have said as much). The Pentax DSLR's sure are prettier but I often find myself wishing there were a simpler way of changing a setting or two. Of course, it would appear that the Pentax approach worked better from a marketing standpoint g. Yeah, he got one, wrote a love-in for it as a review in Black White Photography Magazine. The D had a fairly good take on the 'All controls are physical' paradigm, the only real weaknesses were that ISO and WB were on the mode dial, instead of being buttons. In fact I would have prefered the Mode Dial be replaced by a set of mode/iso/WB buttons, and on the D, Av and Tv modes are irrelevant because of HyperProgram, so just leave P and M modes. Much nicer IMHO than the 7D's knobs everywhere paradigm (I like buttons+wheel best, Knobs are at best acceptable, only buttons seriously sucks). -Adam
Re: RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma
From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/19 Thu AM 10:38:46 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma mike wilson wrote: You can have mine for 300 - although I have to warn you that it seems to be made out of steel. 8-) The application of a power drill here and there would create a multitude of holes and reduce weight. The Swiss Cheese tripod for the Swiss Tony photographer. Drilling holes in a tripod is like... Ss! I'm at work! Sniggering is a dead giveaway. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: large format scanner camera
maybe the root of the site it's a better starting point, http://www.scannerphotography.com/ anyway, as I stated previously it's on slashdot, it's probably slashdotted now, try it later or in the next few days. An ingenious idea and some funny results too. worth to be seen. IMO danilo Not found -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: large format scanner camera
At 15:46 19/01/2006, you wrote: On 1/19/06, danilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those who don't read slashdot: http://www.scannerphotography.com/photographyGallery/vehicles/index.html wow! danilo Not found Slashdotted, I suppose. I found I'm currently arranging a new server.. be up in ten - fifteen min... thanks! Mike at an alternative URL. Yves -- Yves Caudano, Namur, Belgium Photography website: http://www.yvescaudano.be Physics website: http://physics.yvescaudano.be
Re: Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount?
Mark Steele wrote: I bought a cheap Sirius 135mm PK-A lens on eBay, when I attempted to fit it to my MZ-5n it jammed in a position about 30 degrees short of where it should be. Now it won't come out. It knocks as though something has locked. On close inspection it turns out to be a PK-R Ricoh-fitting. So, does anyone know how to get a cheap PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount? Without destroying the camera? As I recall, Tom Vanveen used a hacksaw to get a PKR lens off Tanya's *ist D not for the faint of heart. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net
Re: The Future of Film?
My local camera shop (small town about 10,000), is now selling off the E6 inventory, and is not planning to get any more. They said no-one buys it anymore. I know I haven't since I got my DS. dk On 1/18/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prox' a year ago, a local camera shop (with C-41 and digital services lab.) was told by Kodak that the E-6 volume was insufficient to justify their continuing to pick up film. This past Fall, local Walgreen's Mgr. said Kodak pick-ups had dropped to twice weekly and their stopping at all was only justified by lumping several stores together. Pick-up is now once a week. US Mail probably not far off. Jack --- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Got any stats for E6 or don't you guys do slide film? My local lab used to run E6 once a day, sometimes twice a day when volume was high. Now they run it once a week, and some weeks only have two or three rolls. I expect them to stop offering the service in the near future. Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: MX mirror sticking
On 1/19/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reply, Scott, reminds me that when I first got my MX several years ago (obviously used), the mirror would stick up about every 10 shots or so. I don't recall that it happened any more at the faster shutter speeds than the slow ones. I remember your reply to my request. Wasn't there small piece of film stuck in there somewhere? The problem with the Spottie was a bit different. My mirror never came down.After removing the bottom plate I could see that the mirror tensioning lever was sticking on the mirror catch lever. It was recommended that the end of the catch lever be lubricated. This did not solve the problem. My next thought was that the mirror return gear was out of time, but the pin on the mirror return gear lined up perfectly with the pallet control rod's lower pivot. Since this is as far as I had read in the NatCam repair guide (thanks, Mark!), I was a bit stumped. So I started going over the bottom of the camera with a loupe looking for anything that might be out of place. It took almost half an hour of this before I realized that the mirror catch lever had a slight twist in it. The angle between the legs on the lever was more acute than it should have been! So I bent it back slightly and the mirror has operated perfectly ever since. A CLA with Eric Hendrickson was in the plans for this camera, but I felt so good about solving my mirror problem that I'm going to continue working on it myself. A battery for the meter should be arriving today. The foam kit is next on the list. Anyone have a shutter speed tester they don't want anymore? I've always thought that when buying a used camera a CLA should be considered part of the purchase price. 100% in agreement here, Frank. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Zeniter on PZ-1and metering
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:50:12 US/Eastern To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Zeniter on PZ-1and metering Hey troops. I was out Sunday shooting the 16mm on the istD and PZ-1 with BW,GASP,FILMvbg istD seems to work as such: compose, focus, green button, shoot. Usually need about -0.3 comp or so which i will assume is because of the larger light gathering surface.. PZ-1 i was setting F stop, camera in Hyp M mode. Tv seems to move when moving aperature ring, but i dont see any button to push like in the older stop down metering lenses. Light in finder does not get darker or brighter when moving A ring. Is the PZ-1 metering properly this way with the Zeniter. I shot what i hope will be some decent bridge/river shots, and i'd hate to think i didi something wrong.I won't be developing them for a week or two when the darkroom classes start again. (Yup taking it ONE more time.:-)) Comments, or do i have to go out at -25 again and reshoot. I;m asking as i have never used non KA lenses on the PZ-1. Seems to be fine to me. You could check by looking into the lens as you shoot. If you see the diaphragm close down, it's working as well as can be expected. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount?
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount? As I recall, Tom Vanveen used a hacksaw to get a PKR lens off Tanya's *ist D not for the faint of heart. Often, it's the only way. William Robb
Re: Pentax lens rebates
Thanks. Nice of them to tell us. I'm pretty sure I peeled off the sticker and threw it out. No wonder my rebate got denied. :P Thanks, Amita On 1/18/06, Jim King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat, use the peel-off sticker for your rebate submission. I cut the one off the box but the rebate was denied. When I called them they advised me to resubmit my application for rebate with the sticker. The application went through OK the second time. I think that the box has the generic Pentax code and the sticker has the Pentax USA code, which is the one needed for the rebate. Regards, Jim
Re: MX mirror sticking
On 1/19/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember your reply to my request. Wasn't there small piece of film stuck in there somewhere? snip IIRC, the fellow behind the counter speculated when I brought the camera in that it might have been a small film chip stuck in the curtain rail, or maybe just gunk, or both. I don't recall that I ever did find out what was there when I picked the camera up - I was just happy that it was working and that a simple CLA remedied the problem. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Mark Roberts wrote: I kind of liked the concept behind the camera. Not necessarily the in-camera IS (thought that's nice) but the idea of having most of the controls accessible via external controls rather than computer-driven menus. It resulted in an ugly camera but I'll bet it was nice to use (reviews seem to have said as much). Herbert Kepler in Pop Photo had a comparison between the 7D and 5D. Basically, why is one more expensive than the other. He liked the controls of the 7D better because settings were not buried in menus. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net
Re: Zeniter on PZ-1and metering
Seems to be fine to me. You could check by looking into the lens as you shoot. If you see the diaphragm close down, it's working as well as can be expected. m Ahhh, Bach. Never thought of that. I'll waste a frame and see. Thanks Dave
Re: large format scanner camera
At 16:01 19/01/2006, you wrote: http://www.scannerphotography.com/photographyGallery/vehicles/index.html Not found A mirror has been set up at http://mirror.geo.localizedmedia.com/scannerphotography.com/ Yves --- Dr. Yves Caudano Research Associate of the F.N.R.S. Laboratoire de Spectroscopie Moléculaire de Surface Facultés Universitaires Notre-Dame de la Paix Rue de Bruxelles, 61 B-5000 Namur Belgium Tel : +32-(0)81-72 5487 Fax : +32-(0)81-72 4718 Physics website: http://physics.yvescaudano.be Photography website: http://www.yvescaudano.be
RE: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
sigh What a shame Shel [Original Message] From: Jaume Lahuerta I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know...
RE: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
The future does indeed look bleak for some of the old-line camera manufacturers. Shel [Original Message] From: Cotty It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp
Re: PESO -- Holiday Cheer
On 1/13/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just something a little silly... http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_hollidaycheer.html Some places Christmas never ends. Tech Info: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/40sec smc Pentax 43mm Limited f1.9 @ f1.9 LOL! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Christian wrote: Herbert Kepler in Pop Photo had a comparison between the 7D and 5D. Basically, why is one more expensive than the other. He liked the controls of the 7D better because settings were not buried in menus. I agree. I liked the 7D much better than any other current DSLR. I'd have bought one if I had the money to spare. But after March I can buy one with Sony's name on it. And the new one coming in the fall should be dynamite. Bob
Re: Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount?
On 1/19/06, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I recall, Tom Vanveen used a hacksaw to get a PKR lens off Tanya's *ist D not for the faint of heart. Sounds Sirius... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Sv: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
:) Ursprungligt meddelande Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Jan 19, 2006 12:52:43 PM Till: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Ärende: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Jostein the paranoid. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Sv: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Unfortunately that would be a two and a half way split, pentax being the half. Ursprungligt meddelande Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Jan 19, 2006 2:36:03 PM Till: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Ärende: Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Not surprising, IMHO. They were too late to the DSLR market (way behind Pentax, even!) And I think they hurt themselves by diluting the Minolta name when they merged with Konica. There's no reason why they couldn't have marketed cameras and photographic equipment under the name Minolta even after the merger, if they'd wanted to. I also suspect they didn't weather the total lens mount revision of the 80's as well as Canon did - not having Canon's clout and user base, after all. (And who came up with that stupid proprietary flash shoe thing, anyway?) A lot of little things adding up. Now their product line will continue under the Sony brand, apparently, but they'll be competing with the Samsung-branded-Pentax products, for the most part. The Serious Photography pie is now a three-way split between Nikon, Canon and Pentax. Of course, the difference between the two is becoming increasingly blurred... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Zeniter on PZ-1and metering
Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:50:12 +0100 schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey troops. I was out Sunday shooting the 16mm on the istD and PZ-1 with BW,GASP,FILMvbg istD seems to work as such: compose, focus, green button, shoot. Usually need about -0.3 comp or so which i will assume is because of the larger light gathering surface.. PZ-1 i was setting F stop, camera in Hyp M mode. Tv seems to move when moving aperature ring, but i dont see any button to push like in the older stop down metering lenses. The Zenitar is a K-mount lens? If so it's fully compatible with the PZ-1. It features open aperture metering, no need to stop down or push buttons. However, In HyM the shutter speed should not change unless you push the [if] button, or turn the index wheel until both the + and the - lights up in the viewfinder, I think. In Av shutter speed should keep changing in different light, and if you turn the aperture ring... Light in finder does not get darker or brighter when moving A ring. No, the lens is not stopped down until exposure. Is the PZ-1 metering properly this way with the Zeniter. I shot what i hope will be some decent bridge/river shots, and i'd hate to think i didi something wrong.I won't be developing them for a week or two when the darkroom classes start again. (Yup taking it ONE more time.:-)) Comments, or do i have to go out at -25 again and reshoot. It should be fine, but your HyM with changing Tv leaves me in doubt. Are you sure about those? -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Well if the sky wasn't falling, maybe it was getting a little lower. Who knows how this will turn out for Minolta users. Tom C. From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:59:53 +1000 On 19 Jan 2006 at 9:46, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... A hint of what's to come for Pentax possibly. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: large format scanner camera
danilo wrote: for those who don't read slashdot: http://www.scannerphotography.com/ I'll give the guy credit for the mechanical ingenuity. However, his images are awful. The distorted people, cars, etc just look terrible. Also, he mentions details, but the web gallery images are so dark and have such poor resolution that you can't see anything. Yuk. Not sure what the point is... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net
Black Ltd Lens Finish Durability?
This has been probably covered before, but How durable is the finish on black limited lenses? Is it particularly fragile? Susceptible to bag wear (abrasion from the inside of a camera bag)? Thanks, Mark
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
In a message dated 1/19/2006 2:21:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: m p.s. Glad to see you are still here, Marnie. Your advice on Nightshade plants has worked miracles for me. I am deeply indebted. == Hey, great! Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Re: The Future of Film?
BTW folks: Lost in the announcement that there will be no more Minolta cameras is the fact that there will also be no more Konica film after March 2007. http://news.com.com/Konica+Minolta+abandons+cameras%2C+film/2100-1041_3-6028551.html?tag=nefd.top This doesn't give the definitive answer to the question in the subject line of this thread, but it's one helluva hint. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Jostein wrote: Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Hmmm... Wonder if Sony will introduce the same level of copy protection to lens mounts as they do to music CDs...:-) Don't be silly. The only thing that will change is that you will need an optional, propriatory, Sony finger so as to trip the shutter. And this proprietary Sony Finger will be installed on your hand without your knowledge or permission when you're not looking... And when a properly appointed representative of the Law asks Who's been a naughty boy, then? the finger will point involuntarily to you. Thus the phrase getting fingered. (Why do you think they call it digital photography, anyway?) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: The Future of Film?
On 1/19/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW folks: Lost in the announcement that there will be no more Minolta cameras is the fact that there will also be no more Konica film after March 2007. http://news.com.com/Konica+Minolta+abandons+cameras%2C+film/2100-1041_3-6028551.html?tag=nefd.top This doesn't give the definitive answer to the question in the subject line of this thread, but it's one helluva hint. It (discontinuing their line of film) almost follows logically from their abandoning cameras. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
This doesn't surprise me, Konica despite a long history in the industry isn't primarily a photography company. They wanted Minolta for a lot of reasons when they bought them, but the Camera division probably wasn't one of them. The fact that Sony will continue to manufacture DSRL's using the Maxxum/Dynax, (anyone else notice that description manes it a MD mount, well kind of), mount at least means the Minolta users won't be left out in the cold. Sony has entered the DSLR market but at the same time Minolta leaves it. Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... Regards, Jaume __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
I liked the in-camera IS idea. Keeps lens prices down. Tom C. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:44:52 -0500 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unusurprising. KM was years late to the DSLR game and it seems to have killed them. Even Pentax has a much larger share of the (profitable) DSLR market, but then again, the *istD was on the market almost 2 years before the Maxxum 7D arrived. Didn't Mike Johnston buy one of those? I think so. I haven't emailed him for a while but I'm pretty sure he was planning on getting one. I kind of liked the concept behind the camera. Not necessarily the in-camera IS (thought that's nice) but the idea of having most of the controls accessible via external controls rather than computer-driven menus. It resulted in an ugly camera but I'll bet it was nice to use (reviews seem to have said as much). The Pentax DSLR's sure are prettier but I often find myself wishing there were a simpler way of changing a setting or two. Of course, it would appear that the Pentax approach worked better from a marketing standpoint g. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Unlike Minolta and Konica, Pentax is primarily a Photography company, it's not part of a large conglomerate, and it's very identity is based on a Camera. They may leave the photo market but they'll probably fight tooth and nail not to. Konica had left the SLR camera market once already. It was just a business decision for them. Rob Studdert wrote: On 19 Jan 2006 at 9:46, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... A hint of what's to come for Pentax possibly. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:46:40 +0100 schreef Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html Yes, sad :( It's a bit unclear what really is going to happen: it seems KM will keep on producing SLR's and lenses for Sony? Not by my reading, they will in the interim make DSLR's for Sony. Sony will take over manufacture and marketing by the end of the year. They will probably be hiring some or all of the people involved in designing and manufacturing the DSLRs and be buying all dies and equipment from Konica. Anything not applicable to DSLR's will be junked and those workers not involved in design and manufacture of DSLRs will be remaindered to Konica to be reassigned or let go. At the same time Konica will be giving whatever film and photo developing business is left over to Noritsu. I wonder if they, Konica, will still manufacture film, (do they still manufacture film, I haven't seen any of theirs in a very long time). If true, I hope that it is not an exemple for another brand that we all know... Pentax _stated_ they would keep marketing camera's under their own brand. The announcement of the Samsung GX-1S (before any takeover announcements) is consistent with this. Besides: the deal with Samsung excludes camera's over $1500,-, like the D645 (and of course the D-LX :p). I think Pentax will stay around for a while... __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. This is probably not what I think it is :o) Would be handy to carry a tripod through the Andes, though... -- Regards, Lucas -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
On 1/19/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlike Minolta and Konica, Pentax is primarily a Photography company, it's not part of a large conglomerate, and it's very identity is based on a Camera. They may leave the photo market but they'll probably fight tooth and nail not to. Konica had left the SLR camera market once already. It was just a business decision for them. Don't Pentax make more $$ from their medical imaging division than their photography division? That's just off the top o' my head, but I'm sure I read that somewhere recently. Time to Google! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: End of Konica Minolta brand?
Looks like Sony is going to have the DSLR entry that they wanted. I was kind of figuring a move like this might happen. KM has been in trouble financially for several years, and Sony's been itching for a DSLR entry point. A Sony (KM) DSLR system would not be a bad thing. Sony brings a lot of imaging and sensor expertise to the market. As well as a fair bit of clout=money. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Panasonic has a relationship with Olympus, and Olympus has been in financial trouble too ... and Panasonic has announced a 4/3 system DSLR ... hm. What does it mean for the Pentax/Samsung relationship? I have no idea... ;-) Godfrey On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:46 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: I have just seen this in dpreview forum: http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_03_01.html
Re: OT - Konica Minolta Bows Out
Capitalism giveth Capitalism taketh away... Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp Another great example of how capitalism produces more choice and diversity. :-/ Ralf -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
