Re: New Lenses

2007-02-28 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
There is a very convenient function in the tinyURL site: 'make toolbar button'.

So you have a button in your browser, you just click it when you are in the 
long URL page and you got the tiny url. No need to cut and paste.


- Mensaje original 
De: Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Enviado: miércoles, 28 de febrero, 2007 4:17:10
Asunto: RE: New Lenses

Tom,

Thanks!!

Bill Sawyer
Livonia, MI


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C
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:49 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-16-50mm-Angle-Digital-Cameras/dp/B000NO5QV6/sr
=
1-2/qid=1172623027/ref=sr_na_2/105-0385156-1864461

I'm afraid I don't know how to do the tiny url thing.

Bill Sawyer
Livonia, MI



You just copy the big URL to the clipboard, goto http://tinyurl.com/ , paste

the big URL in the text box and press the Make TinyURL button, and it 
returns one for you.

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Re: New Lenses

2007-02-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/2/07, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

What's the clipboard?

Magic.

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Re: Nikon Dedicated Flashes a K100D

2007-02-28 Thread jim
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:07:37 -0500, Beaker wrote:

something like it with a Pentax digital SLR? It looks like the pins  
on the flash will line up with contacts on the camera. Too much to  

I am sure I have read somewhere that the pins don't line up, tho they are close 
enough to maybe make contact.


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Having parted with the money

2007-02-28 Thread Boris Liberman
I just ordered my copy of LR from our local Adobe reseller. Just out
of curiosity, I am asked about how much time of support do I get. The
answer was 3 months, but we're there later on, said the
representative. Is that the same in your country?

It should arrive tomorrow to my office in Tel Aviv...

By the way I was asked to delete whatever I have now on my computer
and re-install it from the disk that they will give to me... Peculiar,
me thinks.

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Re: PESO - Boris, Week 08

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
Boris Liberman wrote:
 Thanks... Uhmmm... Erhmmm... Sorry.
 
 Marnie, are you aware that you have this rather strange promo from AOL 
 attached to your messages? It is cited below...

 BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free 
 email to everyone.  Find out more about what's free from AOL at 
 http://www.aol.com.

 
 

And thank god for that!  Come on guys, click it!  I need a bigger bonus 
next year!

(seriously, if you use the AOL webmail or the old bloated AOL client, 
you get the footer.  My spam-fighting and other mail operations 
co-workers and I were pretty disgusted when marketing announced it was 
going to be inserted into every message.  I use an IMAP client so my AOL 
mail is footer free)

Thanks, Marnie, for helping pay for my kid's school!  No matter the 
pressure from the haters on this list, keep using AOL mail!  Please! :-)
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Re: PESO -- Griswold Airport East-West Runway [BW]

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
P. J. Alling wrote:
 Adventures in BW conversion.  Sometimes you have to throw away the rule 
 book.  I decided to try converting this photo, (posted a few months 
 ago), to BW.  It had an interesting foreground and very nice dramatic 
 clouds. 
 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_griswoldairportewrunway.html

snip lots of conversions details

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_griswoldairportewrunwaybw.html


It seems like a lot of work given that the original, color version, is 
better... :-)

 Note: Who says you can't shoot landscapes with a telephoto?

No one.  I do it all the time with a 100mm or 300mm.



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Re: PESO - Winter Thaw

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
Tom C wrote:
 An abstract of nature.  It's a frozen over section of More's Creek.  The 
 picture was taken from (guessing) 175 feet above the surface.
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5654453
 

That's very cool, Tom.  Very cool

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Re: PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
Kenneth Waller wrote:
 Check out
 
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
 Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with *ist D, 
 600mm f4.0 FA  1.4X-L convertor on Gitzo 1548 tripod with Kirk King Cobra 
 head.
 1/800 @ f5.0.
 
 Comments appreciated
 
 Kenneth Waller 
 
 

You suck, Ken, go away.  Ok, that's just the jealousy of the 600/4. 
Nice shot.  Looks like he was smelling you...

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Re: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Godders,
I'm still on 10.3.9. Can't get the system software to install. I'm 
going to call that support number you gave me today.

In addition to Premium Presentation Matte  and Presentation Matte I 
see Ultra Premium Presentation Matte. I might assume that was a 
pseudonym for Velvet Fine Art, except I also see VFA greyed out. 
However, my prints look very good, but I'd certainly like to compare 
them to one made using what seems to be the correct print setting. As I 
said, I am able to use the correct ICC profile. I have the very latest 
Epson Drivers installed. I downloaded them just a few weeks ago.
Paul
On Feb 28, 2007, at 12:05 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 That's weird. I don't understand ... the printer operates on my
 system as I wrote up. What version of the driver software are you
 using? And are you still on Mac OS X v10.3.9 or have you moved to
 v10.4.8 yet?

 The presentation matte paper is just another rename of Epson
 Enhanced Matte, aka Epson Archival Matte. I wish they'd stop mucking
 about with the names!

 Godfrey


 On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Hmmm. I have the matte ink installed. I even deleted the printer twice
 and added it to make sure the computer knew the new ink was in there.
 Also the presentation matte paper would seem to require the matte ink
 as well. In any case, my test print of Grace looks good, so it
 seems to
 be using the Velvet Fine Art profile.


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Re: PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/02/28 Wed AM 02:37:28 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Da Bear
 
 Yes I would not want to meet up with this gal in the woods.  You can tell 
 it's a she by the look on her face.
 
 Tom C.

Then the title should be Ma Bear?

 
 
 
 
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 Subject: Re: PESO - Da Bear
 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:32:27 -0800 (PST)
 
 Wow!  Apart from the exposure, sharpness, and
 composition (all excellent), this shot seems to say
 that -this- bear has personality!
 
 Wow again!
 
 Rick
 
 --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Check out
  
  
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
  
   Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall
   snowstorm with *ist D,
   600mm f4.0 FA  1.4X-L convertor on Gitzo 1548
   tripod with Kirk King Cobra
   head.
   1/800 @ f5.0.
  
   Comments appreciated
  
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How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread dao_
Hello,

 I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How are
they on digital? As for the first one I saw some photos and they are
just ok, as for the second one I don't hear too much. These lenses are
rather cheep today.

 May be somebody can share the links to the photos by these lenses?

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Re: Nikon Dedicated Flashes a K100D

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
I tried a hot shoe extension cord made for Nikon on  my K10D. The pins 
appeared to be the same, but they didn't actually make contact. 
Wouldn't work.
Paul
On Feb 28, 2007, at 4:12 AM, jim wrote:

 On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:07:37 -0500, Beaker wrote:

 something like it with a Pentax digital SLR? It looks like the pins
 on the flash will line up with contacts on the camera. Too much to

 I am sure I have read somewhere that the pins don't line up, tho they 
 are close enough to maybe make contact.


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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
  I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How are
 they on digital? As for the first one I saw some photos and they are
 just ok, as for the second one I don't hear too much. These lenses are
 rather cheep today.
 
  May be somebody can share the links to the photos by these lenses?
 
 Thank You in advance.
 

The 200/4 is a fine lens.  I had both the M and A versions (they were so 
similar I believe the glass and build were the same, only the addition 
of the A setting set them apart).  I used the 200 with a reversed 50mm 
in front as a 2x macro rig.  I also used the 200 as a long, candid 
portrait lens.  I could grab snaps of the kids when they least expected 
it.  I only used the A version on the *ist D and found it to perform 
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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Dao,
I've found that the M200/4 works well on digital, although I rarely use 
it any more. Here's a couple:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2686457
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2686452
I've never used the M135/3.5 on digital, but I found it good on film. I 
always thought it was a great bargain. Sold mine for sixty dollars a 
few years ago.
Best,
Paul
On Feb 28, 2007, at 8:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

  I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How are
 they on digital? As for the first one I saw some photos and they are
 just ok, as for the second one I don't hear too much. These lenses are
 rather cheep today.

  May be somebody can share the links to the photos by these lenses?

 Thank You in advance.

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How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Walter Hamler
I have both, and they are for sale. Send me an email off list.

Walt

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Re: Another lens story.

2007-02-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Subject: Re: Another lens story.


 Interesting ... CF and SD, MS Duo. Never seen that one before. Looks
 nice and compact too. I'll bookmark it.

 Oh yeah: does it handle SDHC?

It is very compact, 65mm square x 20mm thick, and it does handle SDHC 
according to the logos on the box.

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Re[2]: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread dao_
Hello Christian,

Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 3:58:29 PM, you wrote:

C The 200/4 is a fine lens.  I had both the M and A versions (they were so
C similar I believe the glass and build were the same, only the addition
C of the A setting set them apart).  I used the 200 with a reversed 50mm
C in front as a 2x macro rig.  I also used the 200 as a long, candid 
C portrait lens.  I could grab snaps of the kids when they least expected
C it.  I only used the A version on the *ist D and found it to perform 
C very well.

Thank You for Your responce.
Could You please show some photos by the lense?

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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hamilton
Subject: Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln


 On 2/27/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I didn't chase you across that parking lot in Nakusp because I wanted to 
 buy
 you a beer, I was chasing you away.

 Nakusp is my summer stomping ground, Bill!  My parents have a place 10
 minutes south of town...Which parking lot?  :)


We were doing laundry at the public laundromat beside the Esso station on 
the edge of town towards the ferry.
We've been hanging out south of Nakusp at Rosberry for a couple of weeks in 
September for the past several years.
We go for the Garlic Festival.

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PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread Walter Hamler
You suck, Ken, go away.  Ok, that's just the jealousy of the 600/4. 
Nice shot.  Looks like he was smelling you...

Is that why the look of displeasure... er, or is it pleasure?  :-)

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Re: PESO -- Griswold Airport East-West Runway [BW]

2007-02-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, it's not as good. but it's so retro!

Not that much work actually.  The magic wand sometimes really is magic.  
Everything is a learning experience.

Christian wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 Adventures in BW conversion.  Sometimes you have to throw away the rule 
 book.  I decided to try converting this photo, (posted a few months 
 ago), to BW.  It had an interesting foreground and very nice dramatic 
 clouds. 

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_griswoldairportewrunway.html
 

 snip lots of conversions details

   
 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_griswoldairportewrunwaybw.html
 


 It seems like a lot of work given that the original, color version, is 
 better... :-)

   
 Note: Who says you can't shoot landscapes with a telephoto?
 

 No one.  I do it all the time with a 100mm or 300mm.



   


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Re: PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/27/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out

 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with *ist D,
 600mm f4.0 FA  1.4X-L convertor on Gitzo 1548 tripod with Kirk King Cobra
 head.
 1/800 @ f5.0.

Ken, when are you going to learn?  Next time you post a bear shot
similar to this one your technical info should read:
Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with
*ist D, 50mm f1.4 FA hand held.  1/800 @ f5.0.

Wonderful photo, BTW.

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Probably old news already

2007-02-28 Thread Boris Liberman
http://www.adorama.com/PX1650AFD.html $750
http://www.adorama.com/PX50135AFD.html $830

Some of you may really like this.

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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:58:29 -0500, Christian wrote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
  
   I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How are
  they on digital? As for the first one I saw some photos and they are
  just ok, as for the second one I don't hear too much. These lenses are
  rather cheep today.
  
   May be somebody can share the links to the photos by these lenses?
  
  Thank You in advance.
 
 
 The 200/4 is a fine lens.  I had both the M and A versions (they 
 were so similar I believe the glass and build were the same, only 
 the addition of the A setting set them apart).  I used the 200 with 
 a reversed 50mm in front as a 2x macro rig.  I also used the 200 as 
 a long, candid portrait lens.  I could grab snaps of the kids when 
 they least expected it.  I only used the A version on the *ist D and 
 found it to perform very well.
 
 --
 
 Christian

The A 200/4 is a completely different optical design to the M, I've had both, 
always found the M 200/4 to be much better.

Regards,

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Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread Walter Hamler
I got a question.
I tend to use the Ilford papers and the Costco Glossy 95% of the time, but 
have used others like the Museo. I have seldom had a problem getting a good 
print, but I always use the settings to make the software set the print 
requirements, not the printer, other than setting a paper type (not by name 
but Prem Gloss or enhanced matte, ie, etc).
I am using the Epson 220 and 1800 printers and PSE5.
My monitor was recently calibrated, but it was so very close to what I had 
done by eyeball that I can not determoine any difference.
My question, or rather a statement, is, if I feel that I like my results, 
will there be that much difference between now and if I set up some other 
way using profiles, etc?
I personally find it hard to believe that I can get much better prints than 
I already do.  Please don't take this as bragging, just wondering to what 
nth degree you folks are working toward :-)

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Gordon Parks

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Sitting in my hotel room this morning, writing the last bit of the 
mid-term exam for one of my courses, I flipped on the televison to 
check on the weather forecast and stumbled upon a documentary about 
photographer Gordon Parks. I've seen and liked a lot of his work but 
had little idea about the man himself. If my subsequent web search is 
right, the documentary was called Gordon Parks: Half Past Autumn.

Fascinating stuff and recommended for those interested in 
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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
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 Thank You for Your responce.
 Could You please show some photos by the lense?

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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread P. J. Alling
The A is a different optical formula than the M.

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/tele/A200f4.html

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/tele/M200f4.html

The M has a slightly better reputation over all for image quality, but 
that may just be due to a more elements = better design/performance 
bias I've sometimes noticed.

Christian wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hello,

  I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How are
 they on digital? As for the first one I saw some photos and they are
 just ok, as for the second one I don't hear too much. These lenses are
 rather cheep today.

  May be somebody can share the links to the photos by these lenses?

 Thank You in advance.

 

 The 200/4 is a fine lens.  I had both the M and A versions (they were so 
 similar I believe the glass and build were the same, only the addition 
 of the A setting set them apart).  I used the 200 with a reversed 50mm 
 in front as a 2x macro rig.  I also used the 200 as a long, candid 
 portrait lens.  I could grab snaps of the kids when they least expected 
 it.  I only used the A version on the *ist D and found it to perform 
 very well.

   


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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless 
Subject: Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

 We go for the Garlic Festival.

 Is that what they're calling it now?


http://www.kootenayrockies.com/events/eventsdetail.html?id=471


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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How are
 they on digital? 

I have them both. Used them with an istDS and now with the K10D and I'm
quite happy with them. 

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Re: GESO - Cal's First Birthday

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Thanks, Ken.  I've not used this viewer much before.  Did it let you 
cycle through all five images?

-P

Kenneth Waller wrote:
 Nicely done, a cute image.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: GESO - Cal's First Birthday
 
 
 A series of five pix. Gotta keep up with posting shots of grandkids. 
 :}  Grandson's first birthday on Dec 7th.  (And his first taste of cake)

 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/calbirthday/

 DS2, Tamron 28-200, Sigma 500DG Super bounced off the wall/ceiling 
 junction to camera left.

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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/28/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We go for the Garlic Festival.

Is that what they're calling it now?

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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I have a M 200/4.  I haven't used much on digital, but it seems to be 
alright on digital.  It's a nice light lens.  I don't use it as much as 
it deserves, but I didn't spend a lot of money on it either.

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 Hello,

  I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How are
 they on digital? As for the first one I saw some photos and they are
 just ok, as for the second one I don't hear too much. These lenses are
 rather cheep today.

  May be somebody can share the links to the photos by these lenses?

 Thank You in advance.

   


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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread dao_
Hello Walter,

WH I have both, and they are for sale. Send me an email off list.

 I'm trying to send e-mail for You, but all of them returned to me
 with the same error:

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SMTP error from remote mail server after initial connection:
host mx01.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.33]:
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Sorry for off-topic.

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Re: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread David Savage
All I'm trying to do is to get the print to end up looking as close as
possible to what I see on the screen.

At the moment I'm pretty damn close, using Epson papers  profiles (I
also let PS handle colour management). I think the only thing that I
could do to improve the process is to start making my own custom paper
profiles. (I got a ColorVision PrintFix profilee with my Spyder but
I've never used it.)

Cheers,

Dave

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 I already do.  Please don't take this as bragging, just wondering to what
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Re: Another lens story.

2007-02-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, I noticed that too.

I'm going to call Sandisk today and see if they can tell me whether  
my half-year-old 12-in-1 is SDHC compatible. I hope so, it would save  
me $20, but it isn't a big deal.

So far, 2G cards have been doing the job just fine for my needs but  
it would be nice to have the capability for larger capacities.

G

On Feb 27, 2007, at 11:51 PM, Thibouille wrote:

 It isn't mentionned on Sandisk website but I know when I bought my
 12-in-1, SDHC compatibility was written on the box but not on Sandisk
 website.

 I would advice everyone to be coutious when buying an SD reader if
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RE: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell
what about the K/200/4 version? (sorry I havent
done any comparisons, I no longer have any
more m versions of that one). Based on the fact
that the K200 is the same as the superb smct version,
I'd bet its at least as good as the others..
jco

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:58:29 -0500, Christian wrote
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  Hello,
  
   I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How 
  are they on digital? As for the first one I saw some photos and they

  are just ok, as for the second one I don't hear too much. These 
  lenses are rather cheep today.
  
   May be somebody can share the links to the photos by these lenses?
  
  Thank You in advance.
 
 
 The 200/4 is a fine lens.  I had both the M and A versions (they
 were so similar I believe the glass and build were the same, only 
 the addition of the A setting set them apart).  I used the 200 with 
 a reversed 50mm in front as a 2x macro rig.  I also used the 200 as 
 a long, candid portrait lens.  I could grab snaps of the kids when 
 they least expected it.  I only used the A version on the *ist D and 
 found it to perform very well.
 
 --
 
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The A 200/4 is a completely different optical design to the M, I've had
both, 
always found the M 200/4 to be much better.

Regards,

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Re: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you're getting the print results you want, don't change anything. :-)

Using a color managed workflow is a means to obtain production  
consistency. It is also a means by which you can take files from one  
system and bring them to another while maintaining color balance  
fidelity.

I was going nuts, once upon a time, trying to make a set of BW  
exhibition prints that matched properly in tone and tint. And the  
same went for trying to produce a set of color prints ... the blue  
sky's tint kept changing as I printed. Once I went to a profiled,  
color managed processing regimen, all those difficulties disappeared.

A week or two back, I decided to do a comparison test between four  
different papers to see how the surface qualities affected the  
presentation of the photographs. By using the profiled printing  
process with known-good print profiles, I was able to print four high  
quality prints on different papers by simply changing the profile I  
for the paper I was targeting, no other changes or adjustments  
necessary, to get a representative picture of how the paper surface  
affects things.

But again, if you are getting the print results you want, there is no  
reason to change anything. One of the folks I know who does beautiful  
printing work doesn't even calibrate his monitor ... he knows his  
computer, his printer and the paper he's using so well that he just  
eyeballs all the settings and produces a beautiful print every time.

G

On Feb 28, 2007, at 6:34 AM, Walter Hamler wrote:

 I got a question.
 I tend to use the Ilford papers and the Costco Glossy 95% of the  
 time, but
 have used others like the Museo. I have seldom had a problem  
 getting a good
 print, but I always use the settings to make the software set the  
 print
 requirements, not the printer, other than setting a paper type (not  
 by name
 but Prem Gloss or enhanced matte, ie, etc).
 I am using the Epson 220 and 1800 printers and PSE5.
 My monitor was recently calibrated, but it was so very close to  
 what I had
 done by eyeball that I can not determoine any difference.
 My question, or rather a statement, is, if I feel that I like my  
 results,
 will there be that much difference between now and if I set up  
 some other
 way using profiles, etc?
 I personally find it hard to believe that I can get much better  
 prints than
 I already do.  Please don't take this as bragging, just wondering  
 to what
 nth degree you folks are working toward :-)

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Re: Another lens story.

2007-02-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 28, 2007, at 6:09 AM, William Robb wrote:

 Interesting ... CF and SD, MS Duo. Never seen that one before. Looks
 nice and compact too. I'll bookmark it.

 Oh yeah: does it handle SDHC?

 It is very compact, 65mm square x 20mm thick, and it does handle SDHC
 according to the logos on the box.

Thanks Bill!

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Re: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
What I've found, after trying three sets of sample profiles made by  
highly respected color management experts is that the Epson profiles  
for Epson Enhanced Matte and Epson Velvet Fine Art supplied with the  
R2400 are about as good as I can get. So I stick with the Epson  
profiles and don't worry about it.

That's not true of the Hahnemühle Fine Art Photo Rag profile supplied  
by H___, the aftermarket profiles worked better. Since I don't print  
on this paper very often, I find I get better results going to the  
Epson driver's controls and tweaking the settings there myself. I  
don't see a heck of a lot of difference in the print quality between  
this paper and the Epson VFA, but it does have a slightly smoother  
surface.

Godfrey

On Feb 28, 2007, at 7:16 AM, David Savage wrote:

 All I'm trying to do is to get the print to end up looking as close as
 possible to what I see on the screen.

 At the moment I'm pretty damn close, using Epson papers  profiles (I
 also let PS handle colour management). I think the only thing that I
 could do to improve the process is to start making my own custom paper
 profiles. (I got a ColorVision PrintFix profilee with my Spyder but
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Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread Walter Hamler
Thanks Godders. Some of the folks in our camera club insist that you have to 
use profiles to get a good print. When I show them my results, they just 
claim I am lucky!
I have never done any type of production printing. I think if I had the need 
to, I would get a lab to print to the RA4 paper and save me a lot of time 
and headaches, as well as money!

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Re: A cool accesscory

2007-02-28 Thread Dave Kennedy
I have one of the Lowepro cases.
Keep empty cards in the right side, full cards on the left.
Whenever a cards is full, I also slide the Write Protection switch on
after removing it from the camea. It doesn't get switched off until
the pictures are safely transferred to PC or CD.

dk

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 My big problem is that when I'm rotating four or five cards through the
 camera, the wallet, and the image tank, it's easy to lose track of the
 state of each one and accidentally format a card you haven't moved to
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Re: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Walter Hamler
Subject: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?


 Thanks Godders. Some of the folks in our camera club insist that you have 
 to
 use profiles to get a good print. When I show them my results, they just
 claim I am lucky!

If you are doing any fiddling with colour settings prior to hitting print, 
then you are profiling your system.
I've been using the profiles that came with my printer, but on my last 
printer, I was creating my own.
It isn't difficult, and is a good way to get consistent results.
A friend of mine can't be bothered with all this, and does lovely prints.
He has his monitor set up with Adobe Gamma, and knows how much he needs to 
bias his colour balance in Photoshop prior to printing.
I automated this part of his workflow by suggesting that he could write an 
action to bias the colour.

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Pentax 6x7 to 645 adapter ...

2007-02-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Since we were talking about this adapter yesterday, I got curious and  
watched an auction for one being auctioned on Ebay. It just closed at  
$158 ... anyone here the winner?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=016sspagename=STRK% 
3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=260090236592rd=1rd=1

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Re: Another lens story.

2007-02-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
Several years ago I picked up a 6 in 1 version by Scan Disk, that handles 
MS, SD/MMC, CF I  II and SM, still working fine. Got it free in combination 
with one of their memory cards.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Another lens story.


 Interesting ... CF and SD, MS Duo. Never seen that one before. Looks
 nice and compact too. I'll bookmark it.

 Oh yeah: does it handle SDHC?

 thanks!
 Godfrey


 On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:58 PM, William Robb wrote:

 Which one? the ImageMate 12-in-1 or some other model?

 This one:
 http://sandisk.com/Products/Catalog(1197)-SanDisk_20_USB_Readers.aspx


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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Bertil Holmberg
I bought both for about $100 but have really only used the 135mm.  
Free hand, with SR on the K10D.

Here are a few examples, for what they are worth -

http://mac.tidings.nu/PinkyPentax/Images/Pentax/DSLR/K10D/Apples.jpg  
- 1/20 sec
http://mac.tidings.nu/PinkyPentax/Images/Pentax/Various/Grass.jpg
http://mac.tidings.nu/PinkyPentax/Images/Pentax/Various/Physalis.jpg
http://mac.tidings.nu/PinkyPentax/Images/Pentax/Various/PinkFlowers.jpg

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Re: Pentax 6x7 to 645 adapter ...

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 Since we were talking about this adapter yesterday, I got curious and  
 watched an auction for one being auctioned on Ebay. It just closed at  
 $158 ... anyone here the winner?
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=016sspagename=STRK% 
 3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=260090236592rd=1rd=1

I wonder if the winner is a dentist

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Re: PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent, Ken. You've been holding out on us. I figured we had seen 
the best of the Denali pics, but this one is superb. I hope you were in 
a truck. 600 or not, that's way too close:-).
Paul
On Feb 28, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 On 2/27/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out

 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with 
 *ist D,
 600mm f4.0 FA  1.4X-L convertor on Gitzo 1548 tripod with Kirk King 
 Cobra
 head.
 1/800 @ f5.0.

 Ken, when are you going to learn?  Next time you post a bear shot
 similar to this one your technical info should read:
 Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with
 *ist D, 50mm f1.4 FA hand held.  1/800 @ f5.0.

 Wonderful photo, BTW.

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RE: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:31:22 -0500, J. C. O'Connell wrote
 what about the K/200/4 version? (sorry I havent
 done any comparisons, I no longer have any
 more m versions of that one). Based on the fact
 that the K200 is the same as the superb smct version,
 I'd bet its at least as good as the others..
 jco

I've not compared the K 200/4 to the M 200/4 despite owning the K. However a 
couple of years back I tested M 200/4, A 200/4, A 70-210/4 and FA 80-320 (at 
200mm)against each other on film, the M 200/4 appeared sharpest with best 
definition followed by a close call between A 70-210/4 and FA 80-320, both 
had slighty higher contrast than the the M 200/4 with the FA 80-320 having a 
slightly warmer rendering but were not quite as sharp. A 200/4 came dead last.

The test was carried out with a Pentax MZ-3 mounted on a tripod, using cable 
release, manual focus, Refconverter A @ 2x mag. Three apertures on each lens 
f/4, f/5.6  F/8 in the case of the FA 80-320 the aperture in use was 
slightly smaller.

John



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Re: Pentax 6x7 to 645 adapter ...

2007-02-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 
Subject: Pentax 6x7 to 645 adapter ... 


 Since we were talking about this adapter yesterday, I got curious and  
 watched an auction for one being auctioned on Ebay. It just closed at  
 $158 ... anyone here the winner?
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=016sspagename=STRK% 
 3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=260090236592rd=1rd=1

I wonder if the winner is a dentist

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Re: PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread Cory Papenfuss
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with *ist D,
 600mm f4.0 FA  1.4X-L convertor on Gitzo 1548 tripod with Kirk King Cobra
 head.
 1/800 @ f5.0.

 Comments appreciated

 Kenneth Waller

Jealousy is a terrible thing...

Well, except for the closeness required to pull this off.  I've 
seen a number of bears while in Alaska, fortunately most of them black and 
a pretty long ways off.  Still gets me nervous... especially while 
hiking/camping.

Awesome shot.  I agree... you suck.  :)

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Re: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Profiles generally offer some improvement over other methods of 
printing that tend to be more hit and miss. I once used ColorSynch 
workflow, and I was completely happy with  my results, but Godders 
talked me into printing with the profiles and color management turned 
off. I have to say the results are superior, particularly on difficult 
prints, such as those with a lot of shadow detail.
Paul
On Feb 28, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Walter Hamler wrote:

 I got a question.
 I tend to use the Ilford papers and the Costco Glossy 95% of the time, 
 but
 have used others like the Museo. I have seldom had a problem getting a 
 good
 print, but I always use the settings to make the software set the print
 requirements, not the printer, other than setting a paper type (not by 
 name
 but Prem Gloss or enhanced matte, ie, etc).
 I am using the Epson 220 and 1800 printers and PSE5.
 My monitor was recently calibrated, but it was so very close to what I 
 had
 done by eyeball that I can not determoine any difference.
 My question, or rather a statement, is, if I feel that I like my 
 results,
 will there be that much difference between now and if I set up some 
 other
 way using profiles, etc?
 I personally find it hard to believe that I can get much better prints 
 than
 I already do.  Please don't take this as bragging, just wondering to 
 what
 nth degree you folks are working toward :-)

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Re: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?

2007-02-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
I have about a 99% success rate getting prints to my liking off of three 
different Epson printers.
The prints will never match the screen exactly, but I find the buyers like 
what I'm printing very much.
I only use Epson inks  papers and have a spyder calibrated monitor.

I'm still amazed that I can get the quality I get on a home setup.

Kenneth Waller

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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Velvet Fine Art on the R2400?


 All I'm trying to do is to get the print to end up looking as close as
 possible to what I see on the screen.

 At the moment I'm pretty damn close, using Epson papers  profiles (I
 also let PS handle colour management). I think the only thing that I
 could do to improve the process is to start making my own custom paper
 profiles. (I got a ColorVision PrintFix profilee with my Spyder but
 I've never used it.)

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 2/28/07, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I personally find it hard to believe that I can get much better prints 
 than
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Re: GESO - Cal's First Birthday

2007-02-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
Did it let you cycle through all five images?

Yes  very quickly.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: GESO - Cal's First Birthday


 Thanks, Ken.  I've not used this viewer much before.  Did it let you
 cycle through all five images?

 -P

 Kenneth Waller wrote:
 Nicely done, a cute image.

 Kenneth Waller

 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: GESO - Cal's First Birthday


 A series of five pix. Gotta keep up with posting shots of grandkids.
 :}  Grandson's first birthday on Dec 7th.  (And his first taste of 
 cake)

 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/calbirthday/

 DS2, Tamron 28-200, Sigma 500DG Super bounced off the wall/ceiling
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Re: Having parted with the money

2007-02-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 28, 2007, at 1:26 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 ... By the way I was asked to delete whatever I have now on my  
 computer
 and re-install it from the disk that they will give to me... Peculiar,
 me thinks.

Peculiar, yes. I wonder why.

G

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Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Eactivist
Okay, I woke up early and have some time this  morning...

I operate a small home-based business that I started  over two years ago. I 
am getting into it more and more. It's sort of part-time,  but even though it 
is, it does mean that I am somewhat a working stiff and my  time is limited 
because of it. If I have to choose between it and the PDML, PDML  will always 
come in last. And I have also unsubscribed a great deal over the  last three 
years, because I find sometimes I end up spending my mornings  reading/writing 
to PDML, shot my morning, in other words. So I unsubscribe to  not be tempted 
to shoot my morning, and get some work done when it has piled  up.

That's number one.

Number two is, I no longer get  into heavy discussions on the Net. When I 
first got on line I stupidly thought  that if someone misunderstood me I was 
obligated somehow to clear up the  misunderstanding. Or if someone wanted to 
debate me, somehow I was obligated  to get involved. That was many long years 
ago, but over time I have changed a  great deal in my attitude.

I have never liked debate, I tend to see  it as very much a male thing. He 
presents his side, I present my side, who ever  has presented their side the 
best, wins. Nope. I will never present my side  the best because of my 
dyslexia. Someone else can always talk (write) rings  around me. And does it 
make ME 
change my mind?, nope, not usually. So what's the  point? The point really is, 
the debate is for others, not me, to prove to others  that I was a big stupid 
idiot (i.e. the one proving is the other one in the  debate). 

Discussion, yes, it can be different than debate. But  there is another 
factor. To think things through in a very linear manner and  write them as 
clearly 
as possible takes me time. Sometimes a great deal more  time than a more 
verbally fluent person would realize. So sometimes someone that  can dash off a 
very, very clear and brief reply say in five minutes, would have  no idea that 
to 
do the same probably would take me half an hour to forty-five  minutes or 
more. This, for instance, I am writing very fast, but I am not trying  to be 
superclear and superbrief. To be brief, I have to edit and edit and edit.  So, 
overall, writing brief and clear, clear, clear is very mentally draining for  
me 
-- it takes a lot of time and energy and thought. This is something a  
non-dyslexic cannot really understand. And it is why I now tend to avoid long  
Net 
discussions now. I definitely avoid all debates now. Debates are lose-win  
situations with absolutely no appeal.

That's number two.  

I will be long when I write fast, and that's the way it is. I  guess there is 
an appendum to the above, the more I disclose the longer I write,  if someone 
wants to debate, the more handle it gives someone. IE the more words  there 
are to react to, the more someone can pounce on things I have written,  find 
holes, etc., etc. Those that really love to debate, that is. So I tend not  to 
write long anymore in newsgroups, mailing lists, etc., either. I don't like  
giving argumentative people even more to work with.

So you may well  have wanted a discussion, not a debate, but for the above 
reasons, nope, I  rarely do that anymore either. Discuss with others, not me. 
:-) Since when I  write fast, I write long, not brief, I write fast and long 
mainly now only in  private email. 


Okey, dokey, now onto the  critique.

I am a very visual person. Maybe the dyslexia is a  factor, shrug, who knows. 
(Note that I am also an extremely fast reader.) I test  out like a man in 
being high in spatial skills. I started life doing art work  and by my twenties 
thought of myself as an artist. I used to oil paint. But I  never did a lot 
because I also found out by my late twenties that only .001  percentage of fine 
artists made a living at it. NOT good odds. I changed my  college major to 
computer science. I have done some art work over the  intervening years, but 
not 
much. I now want to combine photography and art, and  moving more and more in 
that direction. But it will always be a sideline, not  something I can do all 
the time.

So I react to things visual in a  visual and visceral way. Sometimes I have 
reactions that I cannot put fully into  words, or that I cannot put immediately 
into words.

Also when I  look at photographs I tend to come from the artist side of 
things. The  composition, etc. I am still learning photography and because of 
that 
and  because I still get f/stops confused, I will rarely comment in a 
technical  manner. Like Peter recently showed a beach pic that I thought the 
clouds 
looked  blown out. But I will hesitate to say that because I am not sure. Not 
totally  positive.  

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzenvi.html

Later,  someone else did say it. I will tend to say if something looks too 
dark to me,  or oversharpened, but that is about it on the technical side. 
Mainly I make  comments on 

Re: Probably old news already

2007-02-28 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 04:27:56PM +0200, Boris Liberman wrote:
 http://www.adorama.com/PX1650AFD.html $750
 http://www.adorama.com/PX50135AFD.html $830
 
 Some of you may really like this.

Indeed.  And the (current) official release date is May 15th,
which just happens to be my birthday!


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Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Eactivist
Okay, that tears it. I am unsubscribing  now.

Sorry about that, but I cannot show my face around here  now.

I was very tired, and I made a big, big mistake.

Marnie aka  Doe  A BIG mistake.  

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Re: PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks Godfrey, Walt, Tom C,Bruce, P.J. Marnie, William, Jack, Rick, 
Christian,  Mike, Walter, Scott, Paul  Cory for taking the time to look  
comment.

Just for info - this was one of 2000 images shot in the park over a 10 day 
period. We'd leave camp before daylight  normally return just after sunset. 
I've been to the Park 5 times over the years  either never had the 
opportunities or the equipment to capture the images that were captured 
during this trip.
I can't say how close I was to the bear but I know we always observed the 
Park's rules which IIRC allow no less than 50 yards or 100 yards with cub.
The image posted is a slight crop from the original.
This particular shot was the result of around a half hour of shooting, 
waiting for an interesting pose or activity.
Not really sure as to the sex of this particular animal.
The bear was aware of my presence but took no aggressive action toward us.
The shot was actually taken from inside a small school bus.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - Da Bear



 On Feb 27, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with
 *ist D,
 600mm f4.0 FA  1.4X-L convertor on Gitzo 1548 tripod with Kirk
 King Cobra
 head.
 1/800 @ f5.0.

 Comments appreciated

 The 600mm lens and extender was the RIGHT tool to photograph that bad
 boy or girl with!!!

 Excellent photo, very well done.

 Godfrey


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Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
You made no mistake. I enjoyed both your critique and your observations 
on debate and discussion. Nothing to be ashamed of. Quite the contrary. 
It was well done.
Don't go.
Paul
On Feb 28, 2007, at 12:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, that tears it. I am unsubscribing  now.

 Sorry about that, but I cannot show my face around here  now.

 I was very tired, and I made a big, big mistake.

 Marnie aka  Doe  A BIG mistake.

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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread Tom C

I didn't chase you across that parking lot in Nakusp because I wanted to 
buy
you a beer, I was chasing you away.

William Robb


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Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
I agree with Paul  if I were Godfry I'd be pleased someone took the time to 
so intelligently state their position on images of mine.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)


 You made no mistake. I enjoyed both your critique and your observations
 on debate and discussion. Nothing to be ashamed of. Quite the contrary.
 It was well done.
 Don't go.
 Paul
 On Feb 28, 2007, at 12:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, that tears it. I am unsubscribing  now.

 Sorry about that, but I cannot show my face around here  now.

 I was very tired, and I made a big, big mistake.

 Marnie aka  Doe  A BIG mistake.


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Re: (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip some stuff about critiques or whatever

 
 Take Care, Later, Marnie aka Doe  ;-)
 (One more quick  proof of the last 1/4th then off. Up to an hour and a half 
 now. -- Very quick  proof done, now send it off and hope I don't really annoy 
 the heck out of  Godfrey instead of maybe clearing something  up.)

After all that proof reading, editing, double and triple checking to 
make sure it was right, I feel bad that you didn't check the address :-)

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Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Doug Brewer
This was my fault, Marnie. It was way too long to get through the gate, 
so I glanced over it and decided it would be good to keep it whole. I 
never noticed the Off-list part in the subject line.

I shouldn't have approved it.

But, it's good to know I am getting more able to write complete, 
coherent sentences. I've been practicing.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, I woke up early and have some time this  morning...
 
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Re: OT: The dangers of multitasking

2007-02-28 Thread David J Brooks
Bring it to GFM, and we'll give it the respect it deserves.

vbg
Dave

On 2/27/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Worthy of framing, eh?

 G

 On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

  It wasn't a bad one. It was the lens story post of an hour ago or
  so.
  Perhaps it deserves to be immortalized.
  Paul
  On Feb 27, 2007, at 11:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 
  I hope it was a timeless pearl of wisdom, at least.
 
  Paul Stenquist wrote:
  Reading mail and making prints at the same time can prove costly. I
  just printed a Bill Robb message on Velvet Fine Art paper. Maybe I
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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread Tom C
You should have smelled his breath after that Garlic-infused ale... we were 
looking for the dogs for hours.


Tom C.


From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:46:16 -0600


- Original Message -
From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

  We go for the Garlic Festival.
 
  Is that what they're calling it now?


http://www.kootenayrockies.com/events/eventsdetail.html?id=471


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Re: PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread David J Brooks
Great shot Ken.

The background seem sto have a painted feel to it.

Hummm, school bus eh. Liz is a bus driver. Wonder if she'll lend the bus out.:-)

Dave

On 2/28/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Godfrey, Walt, Tom C,Bruce, P.J. Marnie, William, Jack, Rick,
 Christian,  Mike, Walter, Scott, Paul  Cory for taking the time to look 
 comment.

 Just for info - this was one of 2000 images shot in the park over a 10 day
 period. We'd leave camp before daylight  normally return just after sunset.
 I've been to the Park 5 times over the years  either never had the
 opportunities or the equipment to capture the images that were captured
 during this trip.
 I can't say how close I was to the bear but I know we always observed the
 Park's rules which IIRC allow no less than 50 yards or 100 yards with cub.
 The image posted is a slight crop from the original.
 This particular shot was the result of around a half hour of shooting,
 waiting for an interesting pose or activity.
 Not really sure as to the sex of this particular animal.
 The bear was aware of my presence but took no aggressive action toward us.
 The shot was actually taken from inside a small school bus.

 Kenneth Waller

 - Original Message -
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO - Da Bear


 
  On Feb 27, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
 
  http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
  Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with
  *ist D,
  600mm f4.0 FA  1.4X-L convertor on Gitzo 1548 tripod with Kirk
  King Cobra
  head.
  1/800 @ f5.0.
 
  Comments appreciated
 
  The 600mm lens and extender was the RIGHT tool to photograph that bad
  boy or girl with!!!
 
  Excellent photo, very well done.
 
  Godfrey


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SDM lenses

2007-02-28 Thread Jens Bladt

On the Pentax usa website it is mentioned that the two new weather sealed
lenses (smc PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm F2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM and smc PENTAX-DA*
50-135mm F2.8 ED [IF]SDM) have built-in super sonic focusing motors.

But there's no mentioneing of what SDM stands for.
This has probably been mentioned or explained earlier on this list, but I
failed to read about it.
It is also mentioned that teh automatic switch between the two AF systems
requires a firmware upgrade for the K10D. Which firmware version might that
be?

The Pentax website says:
 These PENTAX-DA* series lenses feature a tightly sealed, weather-resistant
and dust-resistant construction to enhance durability for use in rain or
dusty conditions making each a perfect companion for the weather-sealed
PENTAX K10D digital SLR. The lenses also feature the PENTAX original
Quick-Shift Focus System for instant switching to manual-focus operation and
PENTAX-original SP (Super Protect) coating to repel dust, water and grease.
A new SDM system has been incorporated for smoother, quieter autofocusing
operation using a built-in supersonic motor.

 These lenses feature the PENTAX KAF2 mount, which incorporates additional
electrical contacts to drive a built-in supersonic motor used in
autofocusing operation.

Both models will be featured along with the entire line of PENTAX digital
compact and SLR cameras and lenses in Booth G151 at PMA 2007 in Las Vegas,
Nevada from March 8 – 11, 2007.  The smc PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm F2.8 ED
AL[IF]SDM will ship in Spring 2007 priced at US $899.95.  The smc PENTAX-DA*
50-135mm F2.8 ED [IF]SDM will ship at the same time for US $999.95

http://www.pentaxtech.com/Press/Lens/21650_DA_Star_16-50mm.jpg
http://www.pentaxtech.com/Press/Lens/21660_DA_Star_50-135mm.jpg

Regards

Jens Bladt

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Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Eactivist
Okay, I came back. Bruce said it wasn't that  bad. He also told me some of 
what some of you said. Thanks. 

I just feel  a little overdisclosed and overexposed right now. :-}   (That's 
an  embarrassed grin.)


So I'll probably be a bit meek and humble and  quiet for a while.

Marnie aka Doe :-}   But you know that won't  last long.  

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Re: OT: The dangers of multitasking

2007-02-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think I want to watch Dave give it the respect it deserves...

David J Brooks wrote:
 Bring it to GFM, and we'll give it the respect it deserves.

 vbg
 Dave

 On 2/27/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Worthy of framing, eh?

 G

 On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 
 It wasn't a bad one. It was the lens story post of an hour ago or
 so.
 Perhaps it deserves to be immortalized.
 Paul
 On Feb 27, 2007, at 11:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

   
 I hope it was a timeless pearl of wisdom, at least.

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 Reading mail and making prints at the same time can prove costly. I
 just printed a Bill Robb message on Velvet Fine Art paper. Maybe I
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Re: SDM lenses

2007-02-28 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:47:51PM +0100, Jens Bladt wrote:
 
 On the Pentax usa website it is mentioned that the two new weather sealed
 lenses (smc PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm F2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM and smc PENTAX-DA*
 50-135mm F2.8 ED [IF]SDM) have built-in super sonic focusing motors.
 
 But there's no mentioneing of what SDM stands for.

Supersonic Drive Motor, I believe.

 This has probably been mentioned or explained earlier on this list, but I
 failed to read about it.
 It is also mentioned that teh automatic switch between the two AF systems
 requires a firmware upgrade for the K10D. Which firmware version might that
 be?

Well, it might be 1.20, or it might be 2.0, or ...  :-) It hasn't been
released yet.  I'm sure it will be released by the time the lenses ship.
 
 Both models will be featured along with the entire line of PENTAX digital
 compact and SLR cameras and lenses in Booth G151 at PMA 2007 in Las Vegas,
 Nevada from March 8 ? 11, 2007.  The smc PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm F2.8 ED
 AL[IF]SDM will ship in Spring 2007 priced at US $899.95.  The smc PENTAX-DA*
 50-135mm F2.8 ED [IF]SDM will ship at the same time for US $999.95

Spring 2007 is a bit optimistic.  The currently-announced ship date is
May 15th, but I wouldn't be too astonished if the date slipped again;
the original announcement called for these lenses to start shipping in
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Re: SDM lenses

2007-02-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt
Subject: SDM lenses


 
 On the Pentax usa website it is mentioned that the two new weather sealed
 lenses (smc PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm F2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM and smc PENTAX-DA*
 50-135mm F2.8 ED [IF]SDM) have built-in super sonic focusing motors.
 
 But there's no mentioneing of what SDM stands for.

Super Duper focusing Motor?

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Re: PESO - Winter Thaw

2007-02-28 Thread Tom C
Thanks Bruce, Jack, Bill, Ken, Godfrey, Christian, John.


Tom C.



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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:10:49 -0800 (PST)

The composition took acuity. Ya' got it.
A word here about Dawn. You could have simply pointed a camera at it
and pressed the shutter release. Instead you placed it over elements
which included a classic S curve and one the supported the total well
composed scene.

Jack
--- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  An abstract of nature.  It's a frozen over section of More's Creek.
  The
  picture was taken from (guessing) 175 feet above the surface.
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5654453
 
 
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Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 28, 2007, at 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, I came back. ...

I'm glad ...

 So I'll probably be a bit meek and humble and  quiet for a while.
 Marnie aka Doe :-}   But you know that won't  last long.

... and for that too. Wouldn't be right otherwise. :-)

I appreciate your comments, Marnie. You put a lot of time into  
writing them up. Before I respond with anything other than a thank  
you, I'll spend a decent bit of time reading, understanding, and  
thinking about them.

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Re: PESO - Winter Thaw

2007-02-28 Thread Tom C
I thought you said you weren't going to post for awhile grin.

--
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Thanks.  I wasn't because I thought I'd run out of steam.  But on the way to 
work yesterday morning...

Tom C.

Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 6:36:20 PM, you wrote:

TC An abstract of nature.  It's a frozen over section of More's Creek.  The
TC picture was taken from (guessing) 175 feet above the surface.

TC http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5654453


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Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)

2007-02-28 Thread Tom C
Hey,

Not changing the To: address when sending a message offlist is very easy to 
do.  I'm sure many of us smiled because we have been there.

Tom C.


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Subject: Re: PAW 2007 - 07, 08, Soft Lights - GDG (Critique - off list)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:21:30 -0500

You made no mistake. I enjoyed both your critique and your observations
on debate and discussion. Nothing to be ashamed of. Quite the contrary.
It was well done.
Don't go.
Paul
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OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus 
payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like investing 
it, I bought myself a major gift:

OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl

Should arrive in 3 or 4 days.

woo-freaking-hoo!  Can't wait to chase the birdies now. :-)

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Adam Maas
Christian wrote:
 Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus 
 payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like investing 
 it, I bought myself a major gift:
 
 OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
 http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl
 
 Should arrive in 3 or 4 days.
 
 woo-freaking-hoo!  Can't wait to chase the birdies now. :-)
 

Nice!

Picked up a ST 200/4 today myself. I'd love a SMCT 500 for shooting 
planes though.

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
Happy Birthday!  Very woo-hoo indeed!

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 11:34:24 AM, you wrote:

C Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus
C payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like investing
C it, I bought myself a major gift:

C OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
C http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl

C Should arrive in 3 or 4 days.

C woo-freaking-hoo!  Can't wait to chase the birdies now. :-)

C -- 

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RE: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Tom C
Two words - You suck!


Tom C.



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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:34:24 -0500

Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus
payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like investing
it, I bought myself a major gift:

OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl

Should arrive in 3 or 4 days.

woo-freaking-hoo!  Can't wait to chase the birdies now. :-)

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/28/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus
 payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like investing
 it, I bought myself a major gift:

 OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
 http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl

You're building a coffee table, right?

Happy birthday and congrats.

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RE: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Jens Bladt
I have a M 4/200mm as well. I have tested it against some fine lenses, like
the FA* 2.8/80-200mm
It's  better than I thought it would be:

http://jensbladt.dk/Test/images/200mm56-small/0830-PM-200-56.jpg
http://jensbladt.dk/Test/images/200mm56-small/1197-PTX-200mm-F56.jpg

Regards
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Emne: Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

  I'd like to buy these lenses. Dose anybody have these lenses? How are
 they on digital? As for the first one I saw some photos and they are
 just ok, as for the second one I don't hear too much. These lenses are
 rather cheep today.

  May be somebody can share the links to the photos by these lenses?

 Thank You in advance.


The 200/4 is a fine lens.  I had both the M and A versions (they were so
similar I believe the glass and build were the same, only the addition
of the A setting set them apart).  I used the 200 with a reversed 50mm
in front as a 2x macro rig.  I also used the 200 as a long, candid
portrait lens.  I could grab snaps of the kids when they least expected
it.  I only used the A version on the *ist D and found it to perform
very well.

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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln


 You should have smelled his breath after that Garlic-infused ale... we 
 were
 looking for the dogs for hours.

Hell, we were looking for your kid for hours.

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Now that's a nice major gift ...

Long teles is definitely Canon's forte. Good luck with it!

G

On Feb 28, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Christian wrote:

 Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus
 payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like  
 investing
 it, I bought myself a major gift:

 OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
 http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl

 Should arrive in 3 or 4 days.

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RE: Snow golf pages

2007-02-28 Thread Jens Bladt
Quite interesting. I believe it will not be as popuklar here as frisbee
golf. The time of year with snow is relatively short.
http://frisbee.dk/sw991.asp
Regards

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Emne: Snow golf pages


http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2007-snogolf/index.htm

Here are the rest of the shots from snow golf Saturday.

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Re: OT: The dangers of multitasking

2007-02-28 Thread David J Brooks
I promise we won't take it off trhe mountain.:-)

Dave

On 2/28/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't think I want to watch Dave give it the respect it deserves...

 David J Brooks wrote:
  Bring it to GFM, and we'll give it the respect it deserves.
 
  vbg
  Dave
 
  On 2/27/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Worthy of framing, eh?
 
  G
 
  On Feb 27, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 
  It wasn't a bad one. It was the lens story post of an hour ago or
  so.
  Perhaps it deserves to be immortalized.
  Paul
  On Feb 27, 2007, at 11:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 
 
  I hope it was a timeless pearl of wisdom, at least.
 
  Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  Reading mail and making prints at the same time can prove costly. I
  just printed a Bill Robb message on Velvet Fine Art paper. Maybe I
  should frame it?
 
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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
Great news Christian. I'm sure you'll put it to good use.

Now all you need is a Sherpa to carry it, a tripod  head!

Kenneth Waller

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From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement


 Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus 
 payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like investing 
 it, I bought myself a major gift:
 
 OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
 http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl
 
 Should arrive in 3 or 4 days.
 
 woo-freaking-hoo!  Can't wait to chase the birdies now. :-)
 
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Re: PAW 2007 - 09 - GDG

2007-02-28 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Very nice colourscomposition.

On 2/26/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (SNIP)

 BTW, I'm moving to larger standard display sizes. This one is square
 at 624x624 pixels ... I'd like to know if anyone has difficulty with
 this size photo, particularly in the vertical dimension. Can you see
 it without scrolling?

Yes

 Is the annotation below it visible or do you
 need to scroll to see it? etc.

I need to scroll to see it (using IE6 res 1024x768)

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/28/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
 http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl

Does that come with a sherpa to carry it?

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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread Tom C
He takes after hs mother.



Tom C.


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- Original Message -
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln


  You should have smelled his breath after that Garlic-infused ale... we
  were
  looking for the dogs for hours.

Hell, we were looking for your kid for hours.

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Congratulations! That's extreme enablement.
Paul
On Feb 28, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Christian wrote:

 Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus
 payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like 
 investing
 it, I bought myself a major gift:

 OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
 http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl

 Should arrive in 3 or 4 days.

 woo-freaking-hoo!  Can't wait to chase the birdies now. :-)

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Christian
Kenneth Waller wrote:
 Great news Christian. I'm sure you'll put it to good use.
 
 Now all you need is a Sherpa to carry it, a tripod  head!

h  that's the second sherpa comment.  Cesar?  where are you?

Seriously, the lens is so frigging expensive that I could not buy the 
wimberley or kirk head just yet.  I might try out the sidekick which I 
hear is good for the 500mm and is half the cost of the gimbal heads.


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Re: Another lens story.

2007-02-28 Thread Peter Lacus
William,

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/flare70.html

 It's not that good a picture...
 As an aside:
 The picture in the background was one I shot on my Dad's OM-1 just before I 
 bought my LX.

I think your new lens was just envious from seeing a picture made using 
a competitor hanging on the wall... ;-)

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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C 
Subject: Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln


 He takes after hs mother.

She wasn't there?

William Robb

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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Peter Lacus
Jens,

 I have a M 4/200mm as well. I have tested it against some fine lenses, like
 the FA* 2.8/80-200mm
 It's  better than I thought it would be:
 
 http://jensbladt.dk/Test/images/200mm56-small/0830-PM-200-56.jpg
 http://jensbladt.dk/Test/images/200mm56-small/1197-PTX-200mm-F56.jpg

wow, that's quite a difference, are you sure it wasn't caused by auto 
focus or something?

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Re: How about Pentax M 135/3.5 and M 200/4.0?

2007-02-28 Thread Peter Lacus
John,

 I've not compared the K 200/4 to the M 200/4 despite owning the K. However a 
 couple of years back I tested M 200/4, A 200/4, A 70-210/4 and FA 80-320 (at 
 200mm)against each other on film, the M 200/4 appeared sharpest with best 
 definition followed by a close call between A 70-210/4 and FA 80-320, both 
 had slighty higher contrast than the the M 200/4 with the FA 80-320 having a 
 slightly warmer rendering but were not quite as sharp. A 200/4 came dead last.

I own just the M200/4 and the A70-210/4 and generally I concur with your 
findings. Nevertheless my sample of M200/4 shows some chromatic 
aberration on film (haven't tried it on digital yet).

Yuriy: Ralf posted a superb picture made using the M200/4 not so long 
time ago...

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Re: Probably old news already

2007-02-28 Thread Peter Lacus
John,

 Indeed.  And the (current) official release date is May 15th,
 which just happens to be my birthday!

cool, I'm just wondering how they knew it? ;-)

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Re: A cool accesscory

2007-02-28 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Mike,

 Tigerdirect.ca has the Transcend 150x 4GB cards that all the folks in
 the US rave about... (NewEgg.com doesn't ship to Canada, sadly).
 
 $66.99 for 4GB of 150x memory?  Hell yeah.  I could order 3 and have
 enough memory for 6 months! :)

not just in the US. ;-) They are IMHO not true 150x cards and almost 
certainly are slower than for example SanDisk 133x Extreme III, but 
price is very good indeed and they are plenty fast for use in my ist-Ds.

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Re: PESO - Winter Thaw

2007-02-28 Thread Peter Lacus
Tom,

 An abstract of nature.  It's a frozen over section of More's Creek.  The 
 picture was taken from (guessing) 175 feet above the surface.
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5654453

your place in PDML's Hall of Fame is ready. :-)

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Re: PESO - Winter Thaw

2007-02-28 Thread Tom C
Tom,

  An abstract of nature.  It's a frozen over section of More's Creek.  The
  picture was taken from (guessing) 175 feet above the surface.
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5654453

your place in PDML's Hall of Fame is ready. :-)

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
I might try out the sidekick which I hear is good for the 500mm and is half 
the cost of the gimbal heads.

I have the Kirk King Cobra  have no issue with it.
Check out a recent addition  - the Jobo. Looks simple  I believe is less 
costly that the full blown Wimberly  Kirk.

Now what about the tripod you'll be using.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement


 Kenneth Waller wrote:
 Great news Christian. I'm sure you'll put it to good use.

 Now all you need is a Sherpa to carry it, a tripod  head!

 h  that's the second sherpa comment.  Cesar?  where are you?

 Seriously, the lens is so frigging expensive that I could not buy the
 wimberley or kirk head just yet.  I might try out the sidekick which I
 hear is good for the 500mm and is half the cost of the gimbal heads.


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