RE: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Bob W
Ken is beyond credibility.

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 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3.htm
 
 Pardon me as I die laughing.  Does KR expect any credibility posting
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Re: GESO:roadtrip

2007-03-06 Thread David Mann
On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Alastair Robertson wrote:

 You know if anyone PDML's get to NZ I would be happy to show them a
 thing or two.

Well if I'd known you'd be coming through my neck of the woods... :)

The Mt Cook/Twizel/Tekapo area is a real favourite of mine.  Boy do I  
need another holiday.

BTW I love #3.  It's a pity you couldn't hang around for a sunset as  
Lake Pukaki can put on some stunning shows.

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Re: older flashes with K10, Pentax's response

2007-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/05 Mon PM 11:16:19 GMT
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 Subject: Re: older flashes with K10, Pentax's response
 
 Hello Pancho,
 
 My understanding of the move by all camera manufacturers away from TTL
 is that the reflectivity of the sensor/filter in front of it, made it
 problematic at best to read from that surface.  Every manufacturer has
 found it necessary to pre-flash and read to set proper exposure rather
 than meter on the surface during exposure.  If my *istD was any
 indicator, the Old TTL system was not too good.  I don't think there
 was any major conspiracy to force us to buy new flashes.

You aren't suggesting that digital does something as mundane and easy as TTL 
flash in a worse way than film, are you?  Naaah; not possible.  The 
manufacturers wouldn't stuff all those new, expensive flash guns under our 
kilts, would they?


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Re: A Paypal Question

2007-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/06 Tue AM 02:01:53 GMT
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 Subject: Re: A Paypal Question
 
 
 Most people in the states have no idea what you are talking about -
 electronic funds transfer is practically non-existent.  You certainly
 can't just walk into a bank and make a payment into a third-party
 account (even though I could do that in the UK 30 years ago).
 
 This is partly because of some pretty restrictive rules on inter-
 state commerce, and partly because the banks aren't very interested
 in providing the service.  

Not forgetting the paranoia factor.  What is commonplace in Europe is regarded 
with the deepest suspicion in the US.


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Re: Olympus back in the game

2007-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/06 Tue AM 03:44:06 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Olympus back in the game
 
 What I'd like to know is, what is Olympus using for the sensor-shift 
 mechanism?
 
 KonicaMinolta / Sony use mechanical tracks to move the sensor.
 Pentax uses magnets.
 
 What's another way to do it that would not infringe on other companies' 
 patents?

You could use either, as long as you used it in a different way.  You can't (at 
least until recently) patent an idea/concept, only the application of it.  
Otherwise, someone would have patented magnetism.


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Pentax crossover bag Lowepro slingshot

2007-03-06 Thread Toine
Is anyone using the Pentax crossover bag:
http://tinyurl.com/32aky4
A lowepro slingshot is 3 times more expensive and it doesn't come with
a cool Pentax label. I have only seen the Pentax bag on small web
images which makes it difficult to see any differences with a lowepro.

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob W 
Subject: RE: Nikon D3


 Ken is beyond credibility.
 

He's just incredible.

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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Godders,

On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:05:26 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

For Pentax K10D users:
Looks like they fixed the trailing curtain flash synch issue that  
broke on v1.10

http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20070123e.html

And appearantly they also removed/changed access to
the service menu that allowed front/back focus correction :-)

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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread Thibouille
And corrected AWB it would seem .

2007/3/6, Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Godders,

 On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:05:26 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 For Pentax K10D users:
 Looks like they fixed the trailing curtain flash synch issue that
 broke on v1.10
 
 http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20070123e.html

 And appearantly they also removed/changed access to
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Re: Pentax crossover bag Lowepro slingshot

2007-03-06 Thread Thibouille
Mmm does Pentax offer a lifetime warranty on this one ?

2007/3/6, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Is anyone using the Pentax crossover bag:
 http://tinyurl.com/32aky4
 A lowepro slingshot is 3 times more expensive and it doesn't come with
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 images which makes it difficult to see any differences with a lowepro.

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Re: Olympus back in the game

2007-03-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 3/05/07 10:44 PM, John Celio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What I'd like to know is, what is Olympus using for the sensor-shift
 mechanism?
 
 KonicaMinolta / Sony use mechanical tracks to move the sensor.
 Pentax uses magnets.
 
 What's another way to do it that would not infringe on other companies'
 patents?

Apparently, Oly love the ultrasonic wave (they call it supersonic wave.
Sounds familiar? :-).
Their CCD is supported by a special frame which is driven by two small
ultrasonic actuators which moves the frame in X/Y directions.  I believe it
is sorta linear ultrasonic motor.

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/83542-5718-6-1.html

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/83763-5731-28-1.html

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/83764-5731-28-2.html

You can see in the 3rd link above two small rectangular driver for both
horizontal and vertical directions, designated as SWD.
It has a panning mode.

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Re: Declined...

2007-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/5/2007 8:14:56 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

I have come  to feel more and more, personally about my  own 
pics, that if it doesn't work as  a good thumbnail then it  doesn't work 
a lot better larger. Or maybe I am just  leaning more  toward strong 
graphic elements. 

Probably just a matter of what  you're shooting at the moment. I find 
there are a lot of great atmospheric  shots I have that have that look 
like nothing special as thumbnails but are  spectacular at larger sizes.



Possible. Once upon a  time I didn't even do thumbnails. 

Marnie aka Doe ;-)  

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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great. Thanks Godders. I do use trailing curtain now and then. I was 
concerned about that.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2007, at 2:05 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 For Pentax K10D users:
 Looks like they fixed the trailing curtain flash synch issue that
 broke on v1.10

 http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20070123e.html

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread David Savage
On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 From: Bob W
 Subject: RE: Nikon D3


  Ken is beyond credibility.
 

 He's just incredible.

No, no, no...he's uncredible.

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re: Re: hi5 - Who's in? (John Whittingham)

2007-03-06 Thread Roman
Sorry, it went to the wrong place. I was sending a link to peter, but 
mailer autocompleted address to pdml... what a funny coincidence for a 
friends whose names start with P.

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Boris Liberman
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491



On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Bob W
  Subject: RE: Nikon D3
 
 
   Ken is beyond credibility.
  
 
  He's just incredible.

 No, no, no...he's uncredible.

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Boris Liberman
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22291471

On 3/6/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491



 On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Bob W
   Subject: RE: Nikon D3
  
  
Ken is beyond credibility.
   
  
   He's just incredible.
 
  No, no, no...he's uncredible.
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Thibouille
Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?

2007/3/6, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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 On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Bob W
   Subject: RE: Nikon D3
  
  
Ken is beyond credibility.
   
  
   He's just incredible.
 
  No, no, no...he's uncredible.
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread David Savage
Leave me alone Boris. I'm having fun ragging on Kenny boy.

:-)

And with Nikon supposedly entering the 35mm FF game, there is still
hope that Pentax will be pressured into joining CN, if they (Pentax)
have plans to release a higher spec'ed DSLR.

Cheers,

Dave

On 3/6/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Bob W
   Subject: RE: Nikon D3
  
  
Ken is beyond credibility.
   
  
   He's just incredible.
 
  No, no, no...he's uncredible.
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Mar 6, 2007, at 2:43 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote:

 And appearantly they also removed/changed access to
 the service menu that allowed front/back focus correction :-)

I expected that. Leaving access to camera fundamental settings like  
that in the public eye is a support nightmare.

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Boris Liberman
I wasn't bothering you in particular, Dave ;-)

On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leave me alone Boris. I'm having fun ragging on Kenny boy.

 :-)

 And with Nikon supposedly entering the 35mm FF game, there is still
 hope that Pentax will be pressured into joining CN, if they (Pentax)
 have plans to release a higher spec'ed DSLR.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 3/6/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491
 
 
 
  On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
- Original Message -
From: Bob W
Subject: RE: Nikon D3
   
   
 Ken is beyond credibility.

   
He's just incredible.
  
   No, no, no...he's uncredible.
  
   Cheers,
  
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Never underestimate the power of the dark side ;-).

On 3/6/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?

 2007/3/6, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491
 
 
 
  On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
- Original Message -
From: Bob W
Subject: RE: Nikon D3
   
   
 Ken is beyond credibility.

   
He's just incredible.
  
   No, no, no...he's uncredible.
  
   Cheers,
  
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Re: hi5 - Who's in? (John Whittingham)

2007-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/06 Tue PM 01:33:22 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: re: Re: hi5 - Who's in? (John Whittingham)
 
 Sorry, it went to the wrong place. I was sending a link to peter, but 
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
I'v bought enough Dslr's the past 6 years.

No D3 for this lad.

Dave

On 3/6/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Never underestimate the power of the dark side ;-).

 On 3/6/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?
 
  2007/3/6, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491
  
  
  
   On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 From: Bob W
 Subject: RE: Nikon D3


  Ken is beyond credibility.
 

 He's just incredible.
   
No, no, no...he's uncredible.
   
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread David Savage
Poppycock!

4 more  you get a free set of steak knives.

;-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 3/6/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'v bought enough Dslr's the past 6 years.

 No D3 for this lad.

 Dave

 On 3/6/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Never underestimate the power of the dark side ;-).
 
  On 3/6/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?
  
   2007/3/6, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491
   
   
   
On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
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   Ken is beyond credibility.
  
 
  He's just incredible.

 No, no, no...he's uncredible.

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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/06 Tue PM 01:55:45 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available
 
 
 On Mar 6, 2007, at 2:43 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote:
 
  And appearantly they also removed/changed access to
  the service menu that allowed front/back focus correction :-)
 
 I expected that. Leaving access to camera fundamental settings like  
 that in the public eye is a support nightmare.

Presumably, if one wished to fiddle with oneself, one could temporarily 
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Re: OT: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread graywolf
LOL!

Peter Fairweather wrote:
 Why are you so cruel to Kenny. He was right about the D40X before it came out.
 
 After Reagan Clinton and Bush, I would have thought he was a
 reasonable bet for President!!!
 
 Peter
 
 On 3/6/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 He had credibility before this

 Mike Hamilton wrote:
 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3.htm

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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
See. Pentax does read our mail

g

Dave

On 3/6/07, Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Godders,

 On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:05:26 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 For Pentax K10D users:
 Looks like they fixed the trailing curtain flash synch issue that
 broke on v1.10
 
 http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20070123e.html

 And appearantly they also removed/changed access to
 the service menu that allowed front/back focus correction :-)

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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 3/06/07 9:18 AM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Presumably, if one wished to fiddle with oneself, one could temporarily
 reinstall the older firmware.

Everybody was hoping so, but no avail :-)

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
Really.

I could use more steak knives.

Thanks, i'll keep that in mind.:-)

Dave

On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Poppycock!

 4 more  you get a free set of steak knives.

 ;-)

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 3/6/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'v bought enough Dslr's the past 6 years.
 
  No D3 for this lad.
 
  Dave
 
  On 3/6/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Never underestimate the power of the dark side ;-).
  
   On 3/6/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?
   
2007/3/6, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491



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  On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
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   From: Bob W
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Ken is beyond credibility.
   
  
   He's just incredible.
 
  No, no, no...he's uncredible.
 
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote:

I'v bought enough Dslr's the past 6 years.

No D3 for this lad.

I'm not going to buy another camera. Really.

Splrff!
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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 3/06/07 9:56 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Presumably, if one wished to fiddle with oneself, one could temporarily
 reinstall the older firmware.
 
 Everybody was hoping so, but no avail :-)

BTW, there is a report in Japan that 1.10 (not 1.11) made a rear focus
shift.  I do not know if this was corrected in 1.11.  If anyone wishes to
venture a DIY focus adjustment, you have to do it before updating to 1.11.
I am not advocating this procedure as it does void the warranty, but it was
a fairly easy process if you followed the procedure correctly.  It may have
to be repeated a few times but it has been reported that it made a world of
difference (which is not supposed to be, if Pentax did the initial
adjustment correctly, but this seems to be an universal problem among
brands).  Mine happened to be bang on.

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
Well the SO, did, like the print outs from the 2400. Maybe i, could ,
sneak something past her, before the euphoria wears off.

Dave

On 3/6/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:

 I'v bought enough Dslr's the past 6 years.
 
 No D3 for this lad.

 I'm not going to buy another camera. Really.

 Splrff!
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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread Thibouille
Mmm a hex compare betxeen 1.10 and 1.11 shows quite a bit of differences.
A pity I can't read hex ;)

2007/3/6, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 For Pentax K10D users:
 Looks like they fixed the trailing curtain flash synch issue that
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 http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20070123e.html

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Re: PESO: One from Cottyland

2007-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
Oh, i like that one.

Nice light

Dave

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 Oxford with Alma while Cotty went off and did whatever the hell it is
 he does when he's out doing stuff. This photo is from a courtyard in
 one of the colleges (Magdalen, perhaps?) and was shot with an MX and
 Kodak E100SW film. Converted to monochrome in Photoshop with BW Plus
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Re: OT: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling

 Why are you so cruel to Kenny. 
Maybe, because he asks for it?


Peter Fairweather wrote:
 Why are you so cruel to Kenny. He was right about the D40X before it came out.

 After Reagan Clinton and Bush, I would have thought he was a
 reasonable bet for President!!!

 Peter

 On 3/6/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 He had credibility before this

 Mike Hamilton wrote:
 
 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3.htm

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Re: PUG Comments March 2007

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
Tom C wrote:
  ---
 
   Running in the Rain  by  Boris Liberman
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/07mar/pug00526.html
 
  Boris! No fair cheating with such a good image that you've already shown 
as
  a PESO.  That is strictly against the rules.  I suggest you read them.
 
  

Tom, is there a smiley or a link that you have forgotten?

;-)

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No.  Because then it wouldn't be funny. :-)

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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
It wouldn't do for customers to have access to functions that might 
screw up their cameras, or fix simple problems without sending them in 
for repair.

Jan van Wijk wrote:
 Hi Godders,

 On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:05:26 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

   
 For Pentax K10D users:
 Looks like they fixed the trailing curtain flash synch issue that  
 broke on v1.10

 http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20070123e.html
 

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PAW 2007 - 12 - GDG

2007-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On a walk yesterday ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/12.htm

Comments, critique, and the usual foofawraw all appreciated. :-)

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PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988


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Re: OT: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
I would suggest at the very least:

1. He didn't generate the mockup artwork of the D3 himself.
2. It looks suspiciously similar to the 645D mockups with the same 
approximate resolution and likely the same approximate sensor.
3. If it uses existing Nikon 35mm form-factor lenses, it will have a market 
advantage over the 645D, over and above the name alone.

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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:03:39 -0500

He had credibility before this

Mike Hamilton wrote:
  http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3.htm
 
  Pardon me as I die laughing.  Does KR expect any credibility posting
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Re: PAW 2007 - 12 - GDG

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
You captured the moment. Very nice. I like the composition and 
rendering as well.
On Mar 6, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On a walk yesterday ...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/12.htm

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Re: Olympus back in the game

2007-03-06 Thread John Sessoms

 From:
 John Celio
 What I'd like to know is, what is Olympus using for the sensor-shift 
 mechanism?

 KonicaMinolta / Sony use mechanical tracks to move the sensor.
 Pentax uses magnets.

 What's another way to do it that would not infringe on other 
 companies' patents?

 John 

Pay a license fee.

I read somewhere that's what Pentax did. Their mechanicals may be 
different from KonicaMinolta/Sony's implementation, but I believe they 
licensed the KonicaMinolta technology.

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Re: A Paypal Question

2007-03-06 Thread keith_w
graywolf wrote:
 However, I understand it is almost impossible to cash a personal
 check in Europe. 

For whom?
A resident of that European country? Or an American?

~ keith

 It is trivial here. On the other hand we have had
 Direct Deposit which is a type of EFT since at least the beginning of
 the 1960's, and of course a debit card is a form of EFT. Strangely
 enough my bank has ridiculous charges for EFT's, but not for debit
 cards or direct deposits.
 
 Different places, different ways SHRUG.
 
 -graywolf

 mike wilson wrote:
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread John Sessoms

 From:
 Boris Liberman
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22291471

Says there Nikon announces it on Mar 5

According to Nikon's press center, all that was announced on Mar 5 was 
the D40x and a 55-200 DX zoom.

http://press.nikonusa.com/whatsnew.html

Ken Rockwell's always been good for a laugh, sort of like a comedy 
sketch that wasn't quite good enough to be on Monty Python, but there 
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Re: OT - Pentax Sighting

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
Because it's essentially devoid of any meaning. :-)

Tom C.


OK but why is this OT?


Cheers

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  I thought I had recognized a Pentax SLR in earlier episodes. Last
  night the
  Pentax name and logo were clearly visible on the outside of the
  prism.
  Season Two - Volume Two / Deadly Creature Below
 
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
You missed the D40x.  Hardly an almost FF DSLR however.

John Sessoms wrote:
 From:
 Boris Liberman
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22291471
 

 Says there Nikon announces it on Mar 5

 According to Nikon's press center, all that was announced on Mar 5 was 
 the D40x and a 55-200 DX zoom.

 http://press.nikonusa.com/whatsnew.html

 Ken Rockwell's always been good for a laugh, sort of like a comedy 
 sketch that wasn't quite good enough to be on Monty Python, but there 
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Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I started
thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My thoughts
(the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?

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Re: OT: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not saying there's no such thing as a Nikon D3, just commenting on 
the source.

Tom C wrote:
 I would suggest at the very least:

 1. He didn't generate the mockup artwork of the D3 himself.
 2. It looks suspiciously similar to the 645D mockups with the same 
 approximate resolution and likely the same approximate sensor.
 3. If it uses existing Nikon 35mm form-factor lenses, it will have a market 
 advantage over the 645D, over and above the name alone.

 Tom C.



   
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 He had credibility before this

 Mike Hamilton wrote:
 
 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3.htm

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I still hate you.

Tom C wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988


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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless 
Subject: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys


A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
 the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I started
 thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My thoughts
 (the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
 interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
 keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
 backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
 Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
 What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
 system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?

Yer smoking crack.
Buy a view camera.

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RE: Pentax crossover bag Lowepro slingshot

2007-03-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
Anybody who got idea what slingshot it is? 
I have read that the 100 AW is to small for K10 plus grip.


Tim Typo
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Subject: Pentax crossover bag  Lowepro slingshot

Is anyone using the Pentax crossover bag:
http://tinyurl.com/32aky4
A lowepro slingshot is 3 times more expensive and it doesn't come with
a cool Pentax label. I have only seen the Pentax bag on small web
images which makes it difficult to see any differences with a lowepro.

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
I like most of this one.  The only thing that bothers me is how the
clouds are out of focus.  It really catches my eye.  I'm sure you were
fighting the amount of light vs DOF - but this one just needs enough
DOF for those clouds to really make the shot.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 8:18:01 AM, you wrote:


TC http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988


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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:18 AM, William Robb wrote:

 A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
 the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I  
 started
 thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My  
 thoughts
 (the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
 interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
 keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
 backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
 Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
 What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
 system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?

 Yer smoking crack.
 Buy a view camera.

I'd have to agree with Bill on this. Carrying five interchangeable  
backs with my Hasselblad 500 (and there's no substantive difference  
in size or weight between the Hassy and the Pentax 645) would disable  
me from ever getting out into the landscape to do photography...

Shoot on Ilford XP2 Super and bracket. Saves a huge amount of time  
and effort, massive amount of weight to carry, and has so much more  
latitude that you hardly need to bracket so much. Excellent grain and  
acutance too. Drop them off for C41 processing, forget about all that  
time in the darkroom swishing film around in chemistry...

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Re: PAW 2007 - 12 - GDG

2007-03-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
What I really like about this is the little girl looking at you while
the grandmother is calling to her to get going.  It makes for an
interesting interaction.  Nice shot!

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 8:00:20 AM, you wrote:

GD On a walk yesterday ...

GDhttp://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/12.htm

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
Thanks Peter. :-)



Tom C.



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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:11:31 -0500

I still hate you.

Tom C wrote:
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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
And they take action, (maybe that's not such a good thing).

David J Brooks wrote:
 See. Pentax does read our mail

 g

 Dave

 On 3/6/07, Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi Godders,

 On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:05:26 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 
 For Pentax K10D users:
 Looks like they fixed the trailing curtain flash synch issue that
 broke on v1.10

 http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/info/20070123e.html
   
 And appearantly they also removed/changed access to
 the service menu that allowed front/back focus correction :-)

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Re: OT: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
Well yeah.  I've known people like Ken Rockwell.  Odds are that when one 
talks that much, they are bound to be right about something every once in a 
while. :-)


Tom C.


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: OT: Nikon D3
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:10:24 -0500

I'm not saying there's no such thing as a Nikon D3, just commenting on
the source.

Tom C wrote:
  I would suggest at the very least:
 
  1. He didn't generate the mockup artwork of the D3 himself.
  2. It looks suspiciously similar to the 645D mockups with the same
  approximate resolution and likely the same approximate sensor.
  3. If it uses existing Nikon 35mm form-factor lenses, it will have a 
market
  advantage over the 645D, over and above the name alone.
 
  Tom C.
 
 
 
 
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  Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:03:39 -0500
 
  He had credibility before this
 
  Mike Hamilton wrote:
 
  http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3.htm
 
  Pardon me as I die laughing.  Does KR expect any credibility posting
  that photo?
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
Tom C wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988
 
 
 Tom C.
 
 
 

Gorgeous.

Damn You.

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Re: Pentax crossover bag Lowepro slingshot

2007-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The 100AW is definitely too small for the K10D plus grip.

G

On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 Anybody who got idea what slingshot it is?
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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Tom C wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988

No, I don't hate you. I just want your landscape countryside. ;-)

Nice shot. Tones in the lower third of the frame are a bit mushed  
together and could be improved with a little bit of selective Curves  
work.

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
Nope, only the long AI-S (Manual focus) lenses were retired. Nikon is 
still relying on their 35mm lens line, the only DX lenses are 1 wide 
zoom(12-24), 1 cheap telezoom(55-200, soon with VR), 1 fisheye(10.5) and 
5 'normal' zooms(18-55, 18-70, 18-135, 18-200 VR, 17-55 f2.8). Pentax 
has a much more comprehensive DA line, that actually includes primes.

-Adam

Thibouille wrote:
 Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?
 
 2007/3/6, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491



 On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Subject: RE: Nikon D3


 Ken is beyond credibility.

 He's just incredible.
 No, no, no...he's uncredible.

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Re: Pentax crossover bag Lowepro slingshot

2007-03-06 Thread Thibouille
Yes by experience I can say the 100 AW was too small dor D+grip.
In the mean time I gave it to my father and bought the 200AW version.
I put my K10D+grip in it and fits well like that.

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
Thanks.  There's a little flare going on that I'm trying to balance out/hide 
down in that section of the frame.

This was a quick 2-minute manual conversion. I may experiment some more.

Tom C.


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Subject: Re: PESO - Winter Day's End
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:27:44 -0800

On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Tom C wrote:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988

No, I don't hate you. I just want your landscape countryside. ;-)

Nice shot. Tones in the lower third of the frame are a bit mushed
together and could be improved with a little bit of selective Curves
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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Christian
Tom C wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988

BORING!  Sigh...  another nice shot, Tom.

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
Thanks Adam and Bruce...

This was another one from Saturday when I took a break from skiing. I saw 
the sun getting lower and the light changing. It was about 1/3 mile round 
trip in ski boots from the lodge base up the road to where it was taken.

The clouds don't bother me. I was at f/16 on the shot.  I have some similar 
shots at f/6.3 and the clouds look essentially the same... I'm having a hard 
time telling if they're actually out of focus or if the light was just (who 
knows if I know what I'm talking about) diffuse to begin with.

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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:30:02 -0500

Tom C wrote:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988
 
 
  Tom C.
 
 
 

Gorgeous.

Damn You.

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Thibouille
Alright so they can indeed provide lenses to match an hypthetical FF
body. Pentax obviously wouldn't be able.

Thanks Adam.

2007/3/6, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nope, only the long AI-S (Manual focus) lenses were retired. Nikon is
 still relying on their 35mm lens line, the only DX lenses are 1 wide
 zoom(12-24), 1 cheap telezoom(55-200, soon with VR), 1 fisheye(10.5) and
 5 'normal' zooms(18-55, 18-70, 18-135, 18-200 VR, 17-55 f2.8). Pentax
 has a much more comprehensive DA line, that actually includes primes.

 -Adam

 Thibouille wrote:
  Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?
 
  2007/3/6, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491
 
 
 
  On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Bob W
  Subject: RE: Nikon D3
 
 
  Ken is beyond credibility.
 
  He's just incredible.
  No, no, no...he's uncredible.
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Loveless
 Subject: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys


 A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
  the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I started
  thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My thoughts
  (the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
  interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
  keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
  backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
  Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
  What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
  system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?

 Yer smoking crack.
 Buy a view camera.

I see now that used Sinar F cameras really aren't that expensive.
God, you suck.

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RE: PESO - All In A Row (Repost)

2007-03-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
I think the effort you have put into this was well spent time. 
I agree with Boris, just to keep you busy ;-)


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Boris Liberman
Sent: 4. mars 2007 13:36
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Subject: Re: PESO - All In A Row (Repost)

And I would insist on trying to see how this converts to b/w...

;-)

Boris


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 The crop, the rebalancing in the sky, etc help a lot. Well worth it. :)
 
 G
 
 On Mar 1, 2007, at 3:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Okay, recropped and redone a  bit.

 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/row3.htm
 
 


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RE: Just a brief message

2007-03-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm happy to see you above surface Shel. 

PS. I'm struggling to find a 4-6 pounder, they are hard to find in my small
community. 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: Just a brief message

Hi Gang,

I've resubscribed to the list for a while, mainly to see if you're all
behaving yourselves.  From the archives it seems that you are.  I guess
having a major disruptive force like myself off the list has been a good
thing ;-))

Anyway, I've received a number of emails inquiring about my situation, and,
after I left there were quite a few (more than three) people wishing me
good luck with messages on the list.  I'd like to thank everyone who
offered their good wishes, for their kind thoughts, and for their
encouragement.  A few people have stayed in touch with private (off list)
emails, and that was really super.  You know who you are, and I'd like to
publicly thank you for your concern and good thoughts.

I'll be around for a bit although I may go back to reading the archives
every few days.


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Re: Pentax crossover bag Lowepro slingshot

2007-03-06 Thread Toine
After some searching on german forums my conclusion is that the pentax
crossover and 100AW are the same size, I hoped it was the same size as
the 200AW. The pentax bag is only 45-55 euros.
Toine

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 Yes by experience I can say the 100 AW was too small dor D+grip.
 In the mean time I gave it to my father and bought the 200AW version.
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Re: Yes, there *are* bargains on ebay

2007-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Go for a body, 45/2.8 and 120/4 Macro.
Much more useful, at least for my way of shooting.

G

On Mar 5, 2007, at 11:40 PM, Thibouille wrote:

 Ouch... I just want a 645 for myself. Just a body and a stadnard lens.
 Don't care about AF.
 Mmm Will have to look better I guess.


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Old Photo

2007-03-06 Thread Walter Hamler
I was cleaning out some stuff in my studio this morning and ran across an 
ild print from the 60's. It was shot in Singapore while I was awaiting a 
flight back to the states.
Probably shot with my Nikon F and 105mm f/2.5. Probably Tri-X in Accufine, 
that was pretty in vogue back then. My RIT prof called it Mighty Fine.
Anyway, I scanned and surprisingly the scan does it a little justice when I 
printed on Museo Velina finish.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/SingaporeAirportweb.jpg

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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/6/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:18 AM, William Robb wrote:

  A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
  the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I
  started
  thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My
  thoughts
  (the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
  interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
  keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
  backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
  Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
  What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
  system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?
 
  Yer smoking crack.
  Buy a view camera.

 I'd have to agree with Bill on this. Carrying five interchangeable
 backs with my Hasselblad 500 (and there's no substantive difference
 in size or weight between the Hassy and the Pentax 645) would disable
 me from ever getting out into the landscape to do photography...

I don't see how that would be any heavier than packing a view camera
and 8 or 10 film holders along.  Or were you implying that I'm smoking
crack..

 Shoot on Ilford XP2 Super and bracket. Saves a huge amount of time
 and effort, massive amount of weight to carry, and has so much more
 latitude that you hardly need to bracket so much. Excellent grain and
 acutance too. Drop them off for C41 processing, forget about all that
 time in the darkroom swishing film around in chemistry...

I like XP2.  Good stuff.  But I also enjoy the darkroom very much.
I'll die with Dektol in my veins, thank you very much.  g

You're probably right, though.  All those backs are most likely more
extra weight than I'd enjoy carrying for more than a mile or so.

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like this. I might have tried to put the ball  behind the tree, but 
I'm not sure that would be an improvement.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Tom C wrote:

 Thanks Adam and Bruce...

 This was another one from Saturday when I took a break from skiing. I 
 saw
 the sun getting lower and the light changing. It was about 1/3 mile 
 round
 trip in ski boots from the lodge base up the road to where it was 
 taken.

 The clouds don't bother me. I was at f/16 on the shot.  I have some 
 similar
 shots at f/6.3 and the clouds look essentially the same... I'm having 
 a hard
 time telling if they're actually out of focus or if the light was just 
 (who
 knows if I know what I'm talking about) diffuse to begin with.

 Tom C.



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 Subject: Re: PESO - Winter Day's End
 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:30:02 -0500

 Tom C wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988


 Tom C.




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 Damn You.

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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
One irony is that people are using adaptor-mounted Nikon 17-35 f2.8's on 
their Canon FF bodies to get better edge performance than the current 
17-40L and 16-35L provide (The updated 16-35L II may change that).

-Adam


Thibouille wrote:
 Alright so they can indeed provide lenses to match an hypthetical FF
 body. Pentax obviously wouldn't be able.
 
 Thanks Adam.
 
 2007/3/6, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nope, only the long AI-S (Manual focus) lenses were retired. Nikon is
 still relying on their 35mm lens line, the only DX lenses are 1 wide
 zoom(12-24), 1 cheap telezoom(55-200, soon with VR), 1 fisheye(10.5) and
 5 'normal' zooms(18-55, 18-70, 18-135, 18-200 VR, 17-55 f2.8). Pentax
 has a much more comprehensive DA line, that actually includes primes.

 -Adam

 Thibouille wrote:
 Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?

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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Mar 6, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 I don't see how that would be any heavier than packing a view camera
 and 8 or 10 film holders along.  Or were you implying that I'm smoking
 crack..

lol

Note that when I tried out 4x5 and 8x10 view camera work, it lasted  
about 10 weeks before I sold all the equipment and said No Way! Too  
much bother and junk to haul around. Not my style.

 You're probably right, though.  All those backs are most likely more
 extra weight than I'd enjoy carrying for more than a mile or so.

My Hassy days with the 903SWC and 500CM were good. I would hardly  
ever carry both at the same time, and hardly ever carry more than one  
lens and two backs. The 903SWC and two backs, good tripod was a  
fantastic setup. More than two backs is just unwieldy to work  
with ... it takes time to darkslide and swap the backs, the scene  
changes in between and so does the light.

I have enjoyed very much using the loaner Pentax 645 with the 35mm  
and 45mm lenses. Coming up on time to return it to its owner soon. I  
have had three more people offer to sell me a 645 body/45/two 120  
film magazine kit for ridiculously low prices. I still hesitate as I  
know I will use it very infrequently, need a better 120 format film  
scanner, and I need a second K10D body more. Sigh.

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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
Scott Loveless wrote:
 On 3/6/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:18 AM, William Robb wrote:

 A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
 the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I
 started
 thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My
 thoughts
 (the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
 interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
 keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
 backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
 Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
 What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
 system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?
 Yer smoking crack.
 Buy a view camera.
 I'd have to agree with Bill on this. Carrying five interchangeable
 backs with my Hasselblad 500 (and there's no substantive difference
 in size or weight between the Hassy and the Pentax 645) would disable
 me from ever getting out into the landscape to do photography...
 
 I don't see how that would be any heavier than packing a view camera
 and 8 or 10 film holders along.  Or were you implying that I'm smoking
 crack..

Shoot with Quickoads/Readyloads. 1 holder, 1 4x5 field camera, box of 
film. Notably lighter than a MF SLR and 5 backs.

 
 Shoot on Ilford XP2 Super and bracket. Saves a huge amount of time
 and effort, massive amount of weight to carry, and has so much more
 latitude that you hardly need to bracket so much. Excellent grain and
 acutance too. Drop them off for C41 processing, forget about all that
 time in the darkroom swishing film around in chemistry...
 
 I like XP2.  Good stuff.  But I also enjoy the darkroom very much.
 I'll die with Dektol in my veins, thank you very much.  g
 
 You're probably right, though.  All those backs are most likely more
 extra weight than I'd enjoy carrying for more than a mile or so.
 

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Re: older flashes with K10, Pentax's response

2007-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
mike wilson wrote:
 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/05 Mon PM 11:16:19 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: older flashes with K10, Pentax's response

 Hello Pancho,

 My understanding of the move by all camera manufacturers away from TTL
 is that the reflectivity of the sensor/filter in front of it, made it
 problematic at best to read from that surface.  Every manufacturer has
 found it necessary to pre-flash and read to set proper exposure rather
 than meter on the surface during exposure.  If my *istD was any
 indicator, the Old TTL system was not too good.  I don't think there
 was any major conspiracy to force us to buy new flashes.
 
 You aren't suggesting that digital does something as mundane and easy as TTL 
 flash in a worse way than film, are you?  Naaah; not possible.  The 
 manufacturers wouldn't stuff all those new, expensive flash guns under our 
 kilts, would they?
 

Sensor reflectivity was a major issue with plain TTL and digital. Only 
Fuji and Pentax ever got it working with anything approaching 
reliability, and both dumped plain TTL quickly (Note that Fuji did so 
with no economic benefit, since they only sell bodies, Nikon sells the 
lenses and flashes for Fuji bodies). Canon and Minolta simply used their 
pre-existing preflash metering systems while abandoning plain TTL, Nikon 
screwed around with D-TTL until they got it right with i-TTL and Olympus 
got lucky since they were introducing a whole new system anyways and had 
no reason to support OM TTL flashes.

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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys




 I see now that used Sinar F cameras really aren't that expensive.
 God, you suck.


If you want a nice landscape camera, look at a Tachihara or one of the other 
wood field cameras. They don't have all the movements of a monorail, but 
most of that is lost in the field anyway.

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
Somehow missed the initial post.
Nice shot! I especially like the lower frame lighting. 
Doesn't spoil it for me, but would like the sun area a bit warmer.

Jack
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 Thanks Peter. :-)
 
 
 
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 I still hate you.
 
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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Somehow missed the initial post.
Nice shot! I especially like the lower frame lighting.
Doesn't spoil it for me, but would like the sun area a bit warmer.

Jack

Thanks Jack.  I'm not God you know, ;-)

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Re: Old Photo

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent shot of a pretty girl. What more could one ask for? Thanks  
for sharing.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:

 I was cleaning out some stuff in my studio this morning and ran across  
 an
 ild print from the 60's. It was shot in Singapore while I was awaiting  
 a
 flight back to the states.
 Probably shot with my Nikon F and 105mm f/2.5. Probably Tri-X in  
 Accufine,
 that was pretty in vogue back then. My RIT prof called it Mighty  
 Fine.
 Anyway, I scanned and surprisingly the scan does it a little justice  
 when I
 printed on Museo Velina finish.

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/ 
 SingaporeAirportweb.jpg

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RE: Just a brief message

2007-03-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,  thanks for the welcome.  Just get the biggest, most flavorful one you
can find.  See how it works for you.

Shel

 [Original Message]
 From: Tim Øsleby 

 I'm happy to see you above surface Shel. 

 PS. I'm struggling to find a 4-6 pounder, they are hard to find in my
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Locked SD Card Problem

2007-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I uploaded the firmware update to an SD card and installed it in the 
camera. Now, when I go to format the car, the camera says it's locked. 
I put the card in my Mac, and it says I don't have sufficient 
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Heck, they're having trouble supplying lenses for Pentax APS bodies, so 
what else would be new?

Thibouille wrote:
 Alright so they can indeed provide lenses to match an hypthetical FF
 body. Pentax obviously wouldn't be able.

 Thanks Adam.

 2007/3/6, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Nope, only the long AI-S (Manual focus) lenses were retired. Nikon is
 still relying on their 35mm lens line, the only DX lenses are 1 wide
 zoom(12-24), 1 cheap telezoom(55-200, soon with VR), 1 fisheye(10.5) and
 5 'normal' zooms(18-55, 18-70, 18-135, 18-200 VR, 17-55 f2.8). Pentax
 has a much more comprehensive DA line, that actually includes primes.

 -Adam

 Thibouille wrote:
 
 Mmm I thought Nikon basicaly retired their whole 24x36 lense range?

 2007/3/6, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=22235491



 On 3/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 - Original Message -
 From: Bob W
 Subject: RE: Nikon D3


 
 Ken is beyond credibility.

   
 He's just incredible.
 
 No, no, no...he's uncredible.

 Cheers,

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RE: GESO - stairs and birds eye view

2007-03-06 Thread Manuel Magalhães
Pedro,

I don't know what's wrong, but I can't access the page through the complete
link you  posted

Manuel

-Mensagem original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Pedro
Oliveira
Enviada: segunda-feira, 5 de Março de 2007 23:44
Para: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Assunto: GESO - stairs and birds eye view


Hi.

This time a smaller GESO (sorry for the last one, too big, I know).
Finally I'm reviewing some photos taken with the *ist DL (in my 20
iMac, it is a pleasure) and found some interesting photos (for me at least).
All photos taken with A-series lenses (A-24/2.8 and A-70-210/4).
The place is the old side of my hometown, Porto (Portugal), near the Rio
Douro (Golden River).

http://picasaweb.google.com/popentax/OldTownPortoFragmentsApril2006Penta
xIstDL 

Hope you enjoy and feel free to comment.

Regards.

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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/6/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Loveless
 Subject: Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys



 
  I see now that used Sinar F cameras really aren't that expensive.
  God, you suck.
 

 If you want a nice landscape camera, look at a Tachihara or one of the other
 wood field cameras. They don't have all the movements of a monorail, but
 most of that is lost in the field anyway.

I currently have a Crown Graphic, of which I've stripped all the
extras off.  No rangefinder, no viewfinder, no flash bracket, got rid
of the cable that runs to the shutter release on the body, etc.  I was
shooting polaroid film with it for a while.  When I get a darkroom put
together that will accomodate 4x5 it may come out of it's case again.

The medium format rig I'm envisioning is a compromise.  In an effort
to slim down my kit, I think that a 645 rig may be a decent solution.
Almost small enough for a walk around camera, suitable for a studio,
and almost big enough for landscapes.

While we're on the subject, two of the lenses I've chosen are the
75/2.8 and 150/3.5.  But an 80-160/4.5 would pretty much cover those
focal lengths with a bit of reduction in speed.  Anyone have any
issues with either of these lenses?

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Is Feisol 3371 an upgrade?

2007-03-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
My K10D came a few days ago. I'm very happy with it, but I am expecting a
pretty large sum of money this month, so I feel an enablement coming.
I have been struggling to tame a 500/4,5. I have got acceptable results, but
I have a feeling that there is more living in this beast. So I'm thinking
about upgrading my tripod setup, a Velbon CF-630 and the Manfrotto gimbal
mount. I like the Velbon a lot, but max load is 6kg. Lens gimbal and camera
weights about 5kg, so I may be a bit too close to max load with a 500mm
(sometimes I use a TC too). 

My old knees tell me I need something light weight. I haven't got a sherpa,
and I often carry other stuff too. 
So I've been thinking about Feisol CT-3371 (and perhaps a centre column,
just in case). What do you say? Is it an upgrade or am I fooling myself?
I know many of you are Gitzo fans, but it is so expensive. I'm also planning
to buy a new dog, some more stuff... 
You get the general picture, I guess. 


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Re: PESO - All In A Row (Repost)

2007-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/6/2007 10:45:55 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think the effort you have  put into this was well spent time. 
I agree with Boris, just to keep you busy  ;-)


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain  Norwegian)


===
Hehehehehe. And I still have to rotate it  more too. Hehehehe.

Thanks, Tim.

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Old Photo

2007-03-06 Thread Walter Hamler
Thanks Paul.  It brought back some strong memories. 8,000 miles from home, 
trying to get back for 10 days leave to see the wife
Lot of water has gone under the bridge since then!
Another thing that was interesting about the find, of the numerous old 
photo's I found, only the BW's were still good. The color shots were all 
faded and discolored beyond saving.

Walt


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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Brendan MacRae
If you have access to a MF film scanner you can
bracket and take the best sky, land, and
foreground/background and put them together by
blending channels in Photoshop.

No extra backs or anything needed. Except a sturdy
tripod...but you'll have that anyway.

-Brendan
--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scott Loveless wrote:
  On 3/6/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:18 AM, William Robb wrote:
 
  A couple of days ago I was about two seconds
 away from plunking down
  the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75,
 and 150.  Then I
  started
  thinking about landscape photography and the
 zone system.  My
  thoughts
  (the horror) led me to consider the possibility
 of having 5
  interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and
 N+2.  In an effort to
  keep the expenditure about the same, plus a
 little more for the extra
  backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or
 a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
  Anyone have any experience with these systems
 they could share?
  What do you think about having the extra backs
 to accomodate zone
  system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?
  Yer smoking crack.
  Buy a view camera.
  I'd have to agree with Bill on this. Carrying
 five interchangeable
  backs with my Hasselblad 500 (and there's no
 substantive difference
  in size or weight between the Hassy and the
 Pentax 645) would disable
  me from ever getting out into the landscape to do
 photography...
  
  I don't see how that would be any heavier than
 packing a view camera
  and 8 or 10 film holders along.  Or were you
 implying that I'm smoking
  crack..
 
 Shoot with Quickoads/Readyloads. 1 holder, 1 4x5
 field camera, box of 
 film. Notably lighter than a MF SLR and 5 backs.
 
  
  Shoot on Ilford XP2 Super and bracket. Saves a
 huge amount of time
  and effort, massive amount of weight to carry,
 and has so much more
  latitude that you hardly need to bracket so much.
 Excellent grain and
  acutance too. Drop them off for C41 processing,
 forget about all that
  time in the darkroom swishing film around in
 chemistry...
  
  I like XP2.  Good stuff.  But I also enjoy the
 darkroom very much.
  I'll die with Dektol in my veins, thank you very
 much.  g
  
  You're probably right, though.  All those backs
 are most likely more
  extra weight than I'd enjoy carrying for more than
 a mile or so.
  
 
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Re: Nikon D3

2007-03-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 3/06/07 2:17 PM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Heck, they're having trouble supplying lenses for Pentax APS bodies, so
 what else would be new?
 
 Thibouille wrote:
 Alright so they can indeed provide lenses to match an hypthetical FF
 body. Pentax obviously wouldn't be able.

I believe the only makers whose lenses are all digital compatible now are
Pentax and Oly.  Pentax will eventually get there whatever the market
dictates.
Others, C/N/S have still a long way to go.

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/6/2007 8:48:02 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988


Tom  C.

==
Pretty, like it. Nice light. If it were mine, I might  bring up a tad more 
detail in the shadows. Not that it isn't fine now, but I  think it could use 
just a tad more detail.

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RE: Pentax crossover bag Lowepro slingshot

2007-03-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
Then, this is not an alternative for me. 



Tim Typo
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Subject: Re: Pentax crossover bag  Lowepro slingshot

After some searching on german forums my conclusion is that the pentax
crossover and 100AW are the same size, I hoped it was the same size as
the 200AW. The pentax bag is only 45-55 euros.
Toine

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 Yes by experience I can say the 100 AW was too small dor D+grip.
 In the mean time I gave it to my father and bought the 200AW version.
 I put my K10D+grip in it and fits well like that.

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Re: Locked SD Card Problem

2007-03-06 Thread Juan Buhler
Not Godfrey, but two things I would try, provided the little plastic
write protection tab is not in the lock position:

-open Disk Utility (in the Applications/Utilities folder) See what it
tells you about the card and if you can format it from there

-open a shell (Terminal, also in Applications/Utilities) and look what
is in there. Possibly, do it as superuser. It would be something like
the following, where  indicates the prompt, the rest is what you'd
type:

 cd /Volumes/NO\ NAME
(NO NAME is what I think memeory cards are mounted with by
default--the name might be different and I don't have my Mac here to
try)

 su
(this will make you superuser. You'll have to enter your admin password)

 ls -l
(to see what is in the card)

 chmod a+rwx .
(that will change the permissions of the local directory so anyone can
read, write and navigate to it)

 rm /Volumes/NO\ NAME/*
(this woud remove anything in the card--careful, there's no undelete here)


Note that the space in NO NAME needs to be 'escaped' by typing a
backslash before it when you are in the shell. If you are not familiar
with unix, be very careful about using the rm command--make sure you
are in the right directory!

This should do. Strange though that you'd end up with no permissions
to write in that card.

j






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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Doug Brewer
Scott Loveless wrote:
 A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
 the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I started
 thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My thoughts
 (the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
 interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
 keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
 backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
 Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
 What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
 system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?
 
 Thanks!
 

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
Thanks. I'll make this statement... not picking on you personally Marnie. 
:-)

I shouldn't be, yet am, amazed by people that do photography.  They always 
seem to have an idea of how it should look even though they weren't there. 
:-)

In this case I did bring up the darker areas as well as the snow a fair 
amount over the original exposure.  Doing more so would highlight some flare 
that was going on.  Personally I like there being less detail in the 
shadows.  For one, there is not much detail in shadows to begin with and 
secondly, I think that part of the image conveys exactly the feeling I was 
hoping to put forth... it's a late winter afternoon with the sun going down, 
it's starting to get dark, and the cold of the night is setting in.

Glad you liked it.  Thanks for commenting.

Tom C.


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
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Tom  C.

==
Pretty, like it. Nice light. If it were mine, I might  bring up a tad more
detail in the shadows. Not that it isn't fine now, but I  think it could 
use
just a tad more detail.

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Re: PESO - Winter Day's End

2007-03-06 Thread Tom C
Thanks Paul.  Like most things photographic, I had choices to make. To hide 
the sun behind a tree trunk, meant shifting left or right so that the 
compositional elements were no longer as desirable or other non-desirable 
elements would be introduced. :-)


Tom C.


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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:38:12 -0500

I like this. I might have tried to put the ball  behind the tree, but
I'm not sure that would be an improvement.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Tom C wrote:

  Thanks Adam and Bruce...
 
  This was another one from Saturday when I took a break from skiing. I
  saw
  the sun getting lower and the light changing. It was about 1/3 mile
  round
  trip in ski boots from the lodge base up the road to where it was
  taken.
 
  The clouds don't bother me. I was at f/16 on the shot.  I have some
  similar
  shots at f/6.3 and the clouds look essentially the same... I'm having
  a hard
  time telling if they're actually out of focus or if the light was just
  (who
  knows if I know what I'm talking about) diffuse to begin with.
 
  Tom C.
 
 
 
  From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:30:02 -0500
 
  Tom C wrote:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5681988
 
 
  Tom C.
 
 
 
 
  Gorgeous.
 
  Damn You.
 
  -Adam
 
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Re: Locked SD Card Problem

2007-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On 3/6/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I uploaded the firmware update to an SD card and installed it in the
 camera. Now, when I go to format the card, the camera says it's  
 locked.
 I put the card in my Mac, and it says I don't have sufficient
 privileges to reformat it. What can I do? Godders?

Hmm. Did you hit the lock tab by accident? That is the most likely  
issue.

I did the update this morning and have had no problems with the card,  
I think the problem something specific to your handling of the card.  
Otherwise, Juan's notes are just about what I'd tell you...


On Mar 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Juan Buhler wrote:

 Not Godfrey, but two things I would try, provided the little plastic
 write protection tab is not in the lock position:

 -open Disk Utility (in the Applications/Utilities folder) See what it
 tells you about the card and if you can format it from there

 -open a shell (Terminal, also in Applications/Utilities) and look what
 is in there. Possibly, do it as superuser. It would be something like
 the following, where  indicates the prompt, the rest is what you'd
 type:

 cd /Volumes/NO\ NAME
 (NO NAME is what I think memeory cards are mounted with by
 default--the name might be different and I don't have my Mac here to
 try)

A quick way to get to the card directory in Terminal with minimal  
typing and no mistakes is to open Terminal, type the 'cd' command and  
a space, then drag and drop the memory card from the Finder onto the  
Terminal window. The full path will appear. Hit the enter or carriage  
return key and you're there.

 su
 (this will make you superuser. You'll have to enter your admin  
 password)

 ls -l
 (to see what is in the card)

 chmod a+rwx .
 (that will change the permissions of the local directory so anyone can
 read, write and navigate to it)

 rm /Volumes/NO\ NAME/*
 (this would remove anything in the card--careful, there's no  
 undelete here)


 Note that the space in NO NAME needs to be 'escaped' by typing a
 backslash before it when you are in the shell. If you are not familiar
 with unix, be very careful about using the rm command--make sure you
 are in the right directory!

 This should do. Strange though that you'd end up with no permissions
 to write in that card.


Yes, very strange. But most likely the write-lock tab has been slid...

Godfrey

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