Re: GFM check list

2007-05-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/5/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Found 'em, Bill.  In your closet of all places.  Anyone know Cotty's 
shoe size?

I do.

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RE: Lightmeter dead?

2007-05-28 Thread Bob W
They're  quite different meters. Mine, the L-208, is analog. The
L-308B is digital. I'll take it into a dealer and see if there's
anything they can do with it.

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 Most likely a IC or a connection problem. I am pretty sure it 
 is the IC in my L-308B which is, I believe, the same meter as 
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RE: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread Bob W
Men and women seem to see different things, and use different things
as reference points. 

Men (at least in the UK) say things like 'turn left at the White Lion,
carry straight on past the Pig  Whistle then it's right in front of
you. You can't miss it'. 

Women say things like 'turn left at Sainsburys, carry straight on past
Primark then it's right in front of you. You can't miss it'.

It was a man who gave me the most baffling directions I've ever
received. In a town I'd never visited before he told me to 'turn left
about 2 miles before you get to the big roundabout'.

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 That was not a joke, it was, except for the 102 houses, 
 exaggeration pretty much what I was once told by a lady 
 friend. I did find her house, but only because I had insisted 
 upon her giving me the street address.
 
 However, I will admit that men can give strange directions too.
 
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Re: PESO - glassblowers

2007-05-28 Thread David Mann
On May 28, 2007, at 8:33 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 The concentration and cooperation between these two fascinated me. It
 was a very cluttered place and difficult to get a clean shot. This was
 the best one I got. Please tell me what you think.

 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-12

I think you certainly nailed it.  I'm always fascinated to watch  
glass blowers, but there aren't many in this country so it's very  
rarely that I get to see them.

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Re: PESO - Chill Out Surfer #1

2007-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Christian,
Much appreciated.
Jostein

2007/5/28, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 AlunFoto wrote:
  http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-2
 
  Thanks for looking, and all comments appreciated.
 
  Jostein
 

 I like the light on the green water.  Nice composition which is never
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Re: Scanners on the mountain

2007-05-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote:

Hey, Mark!  Since you're all SCSIfied, are you bringing a film scanner 
or do I need to pack mine?

Better bring yours if you can. I have much still to do and I haven't 
set up my laptop for it yet. And since I'm riding with Dave Brooks I 
may not have room to bring as much stuff as I otherwise would.

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Re: GFM Atendees Contact Details

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
My cell is 416 543 3697, but its set up as an emergency plan, so i
don't have voice mail.

Dave

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 You can try my mobile phone at 412-401-1763 but you should know that
 reception is spotty at best on the mountain. I expect you'll have a few
 of us offering their phone numbers: Write them *all* down and try every
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Re: PDML - what the hell?

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aha. The *real* reason Frank's ,oving next weekend!

 Erm, moving next weekend.

 (I have no idea what oving might be but I trust Frank will let us
 know if he does in fact do any oving next week. Keep us informed
 Frank...)

Yes, on my doctor's advice, I'm oving next weekend.  It's been years,
and I'm well overdue for this ove.

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Re: PESO - C'Attitude

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/27/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Get a DNA test frank.  She's not your daughter.  The picture is WAY too
 sharp for a theriault! :-)

Well, she's only 1/2 Theriault...

;-)

BTW, thanks to everyone who commented.  I've been passing these along
to Claire, and she's really enjoying it!  On her behalf, thanks to
everyone.

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Re: Bridezillas

2007-05-28 Thread cbwaters
I like that a lot.  Good find.
CW

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Subject: Bridezillas


A weird billboard and a weird dog. Shot on a gloomy Saturday in the
 middle of a roundabout - it's near the beach, that's why it's covered
 with sand. No, I have no knowlegde of why the dog is standing there,
 nor about who placed it there.

 http://mac.tidings.nu/Diverse/Bridezillas.jpg

 I didn't have my K10D with me so I had to make do with my ersatz
 camera, the Optio A10. I am guilty of slight Photoshopping on the
 billboard but not much else.

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Re: GFM check list

2007-05-28 Thread cbwaters
Seemed like you got plenty wet last year with the close you had on.  :)

CW

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 On 5/27/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.alleneasler.com/cashiersrock.html

 And this is one reason that I am packing a bathing suit on my trip
 this year. :-)

 That, and the tubing along the river near Tellico Plains...

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Re: Scanners on the mountain

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
Should have room in the back, Mark.

BTW i found the word document for directions to your place, but can i
get a phone number just in case.

I plan on leaving Wednesday around 6am, which should get me to
Pittsburg by 11:30 or so.

Dave

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 Scott Loveless wrote:

 Hey, Mark!  Since you're all SCSIfied, are you bringing a film scanner
 or do I need to pack mine?

 Better bring yours if you can. I have much still to do and I haven't
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Re: PESO - glassblowers

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely shot. Facial expresions are tell it all.

Back in 1980 i took a glass blowing class at Sheridan College in
Mississauga Ontario, inspired after watching the glassblowers in a
park in Stockholm in 1976.
I found it not only a great experience, but relaxing. Just you and the glass

Dave

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 The concentration and cooperation between these two fascinated me. It
 was a very cluttered place and difficult to get a clean shot. This was
 the best one I got. Please tell me what you think.

 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-12

 P.J. Alling: I hope I've worked out how to provide persistent links now...:-)

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Re: Well beyond brand loyalty!

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
WW is tall enough to have his 600mm tattoed, isn't he?  :-)

Dave

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
This seems to confirm that the Pentax board revolted over Hoya's 
intention to buy Pentax for their medical equipment division and drop 
cameras.  That doesn't surprise me.

Digital Image Studio wrote:
 SLR pioneer missed jump to digital

 By REIJI YOSHIDA
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Re: About to pull the trigger on the FA43 Limited...... Some thoughts?

2007-05-28 Thread Fernando
Thanks, she's a great cook too, I'm a lucky guy ;-)

On 5/27/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HAR! Great shot. Pretty lady too, btw:-).
 Paul
 On May 27, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Fernando wrote:

  Hi Alex,
 
  Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with the DA40, I'm on the
  opposite side, I love that lens, I didn't think about selling that
  lens even having way too many lenses covering that FL: DA18-55,
  DA16-45, FA24-90, FA35, FA50/1.4 and A50/1.7 (yes, I'm a gearhead but
  at least I'm no longer proud of it...), not only I like the size
  factor (main reason for this lens) but also I like it's rendering
  qualities and I've never experienced any focus problem.
  In the end there is always a subjective factor involved in keeping a
  lens, and that's why it's only you who can decide what works better
  for you, right?
 
  Anyway I would buy that da40 from you if I wouldn't have one
  already ;-).
 
  The way things are shapping up, I'm pretty sure you'll end up buying
  that 43 and hopefully you'll find the so called 3D effect (comming
  from a guy that has an order for a 31Ltd on Henry's).
 
  This is one of the photos that I like from the DA40, that's my wife
  expressing her feelings about my excitement on the K10D purchase ;-)
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?
  id=369460334context=set-72157594500202302size=o
 
 
  Cheers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 5/27/07, AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Boris, thanks for taking the time to respond. (same for Godfrey,
  Rob and Bob ;) )
 
  I know the equipment doesn't make the man, believe me. I'm not a
  better athlete because my bike is nice, I don't lift more because the
  bar is nicely chrome-plated... etc
 
  What bothers me about the 40 is that it's so variable. It will
  give me
  a super-nice pic once and again, other times the pics will be
  slightly
  off. Some sligt misfocus (this is with AF, never happens on the 50),
  or slightly strange contrast, slightly faded colors. I think it's
  more
  aperture dependent than anything else, it has to be because my
  technique doesn't change shot to shot.
 
  In my opinion, the 50 can do no wrong, and it rules for marginal
  lighing. But the 43's pics have a perceptibly different quality to
  them. I just can't tell if it's Photoshop (there are a gazillion
  varibles if so) or the lens itself. I suspect it was much the same in
  the film day. An old photography book I have says you could really
  change the picture in the darkroom if you knew what you were doing.
 
  The whole two eye open thing, I haven't been able to do it with the
  digitals yet, neither with the 40 or the 50. The only camera that has
  allowed comfortable two-eye shooting was the Minolta SRT-201. I don't
  know what vf magnification it had, but it's a big ol' prism. The lens
  was a small 43mm which should be equal to a 28 on a DSLR. I will be
  playing with the kit lens in that range for a bit.
 
  The Engineering side of me really likes Rob's answer. There are
  simply
  too many variables to tell. And it satisfies the cheapskate side
  of me
  too
 
  I guess I'll be spending a bit more time with my existing gear before
  taking the plunge. It's the smartest thing to do. The 40 was the same
  kind of impulse buy this is shaping up to be and so far. meh.
 
  Bob, where have the two of you gone for the honeymoon?
 
  Alex
 
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  As for keeper's percentage. I am sorry, but I don't buy your
  argument.
  More expensive and theoretically better lens does not make one
  better
  photographer, no offense intended here.
 
  I do admit that if I was *forced* to choose just one normal lens,
  I'd go
  for 43 ltd, but that's my *personal* preference.
 
  Notice also, that you may be able to shoot with your FA 50/1.4 with
  *both* eyes opened, which probably will not be possible with 43
  ltd...
  You seem to like optical experiments ;-), so perhaps it is time you
  performed some more.
 
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Re: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread Bob Shell

On May 28, 2007, at 1:40 AM, graywolf wrote:

 That was not a joke, it was, except for the 102 houses,  
 exaggeration pretty much what I was once told by a lady friend. I  
 did find her house, but only because I had insisted upon her giving  
 me the street address.

 However, I will admit that men can give strange directions too.

Once when I was looking for a place on St. Thomas, Virgin Islands, I  
found myself completely lost and maps useless.  I saw this very old  
and wise looking Rasta man leaning against a fence post by the  
road.  I stopped and got out and he greeted me with a broad smile.  I  
asked if he knew the way to the place I was trying to find.  He gave  
me detailed directions which began...

Mon, you go down de road an you make a lef turn where de old mango  
tree usta be, den you go 'bout a mile and you make a right turn at  
John Smif's house

He went on for some time with these directions, while I nodded and  
pretended to understand.  I thanked him and was going to go back to  
the car, when he pulled out a gigantic cigar from his pocket and  
asked me if I wanted to toke on some ganja.  I politely declined and  
continued down the road, ultimately coming to a store where I got  
directions I could understand.

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread Bob Shell

On May 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 SLR pioneer missed jump to digital

 By REIJI YOSHIDA
 Staff writer

 http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20070526a2.html

The writer is completely confused about instant return mirror and SLR  
viewing.  I guess the USA is not the only country with incredibly low  
standards for reporters.

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Re: PESO - Chill Out Surfer #1

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
Great action shot. Love the contrast between the green sea the the white cap

Dave

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Re: PESO - glassblowers

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/27/2007 1:37:50 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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The concentration and  cooperation between these two fascinated me. It
was a very cluttered place  and difficult to get a clean shot. This was
the best one I got. Please tell  me what you  think.

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-12

P.J.  Alling: I hope I've worked out how to provide persistent links  
now...:-)

thanks,
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Re: PESO: Garden Fountain

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice. Good back ground and OOF areas.

Nicely framed

Dave

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Re: PESO: A few pics from today

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/20/2007 6:51:11 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I shot quite a bit  today. I think I have quite a few nice street  
pics, but I haven't had  time to really study them all. But here are a  
few that caught my eye  right away.
At the car wash,  baby:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5989720size=lg
Posing:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5989719size=lg
Oh  No!
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5989712


=
Along  with some others I like the car wash one the best. Strange it's all 
girls, most  of the car washes I see around here are mixed gender. Or maybe 
that 
was what  made you snap it. :-)

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Re: Bridezillas

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/27/2007 2:18:50 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A weird billboard and  a weird dog. Shot on a gloomy Saturday in the  
middle of a roundabout -  it's near the beach, that's why it's covered  
with sand. No, I have no  knowlegde of why the dog is standing there,  
nor about who placed it  there.

http://mac.tidings.nu/Diverse/Bridezillas.jpg

I didn't have  my K10D with me so I had to make do with my ersatz  
camera, the Optio  A10. I am guilty of slight Photoshopping on the  
billboard but not much  else.

Regards,
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This is extremely odd.  Bizarre. Which makes it an interesting shot. I'd 
probably crop off the right to  get rid of the post on the right, just have the 
dog and the  billboard.

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
Is that the same as Jumbo Shrimp

Dave

On 5/28/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On May 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

  SLR pioneer missed jump to digital
 
  By REIJI YOSHIDA
  Staff writer
 
  http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20070526a2.html

 The writer is completely confused about instant return mirror and SLR
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Re: PESO: I don't want to be a box!

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/20/2007 7:25:01 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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Odd  shot, makes one wonder what the heck is going on. And the kid certainly 
looks  unhappy. 

Good capture.

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Re: I'm back! and a small GESO

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/19/2007 11:54:28 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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Did you miss me?

I  wouldn't have, either.

We returned home last night after 13 hours in the  car with an ill, crying 
baby.  Much fun.  I can't wait to do it  again.  Surprisingly, the Xterra 
delivered us about 20 miles for every  gallon of fuel we burned.  The last time 
we 
took a road trip she only  wanted to go 16 miles, so I was as pleased as I 
could be paying  $3/gallon.

Spent a week with my parents near Fontana Dam, NC.  Took  a few hundred 
pictures.  Here are 4 of them.  Comments and critiques  are most  welcome.

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Technical details from a half century ago.  That doesn't surprise me 
either.

Bob Shell wrote:
 On May 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

   
 SLR pioneer missed jump to digital

 By REIJI YOSHIDA
 Staff writer

 http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20070526a2.html
 

 The writer is completely confused about instant return mirror and SLR  
 viewing.  I guess the USA is not the only country with incredibly low  
 standards for reporters.

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Re: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
Really not. They're still very much en vogue, and often accurate (like
most jokes that aren't PC these days) ;)

One time, me and some of my brothers were going down to CT for the
weekend. One of us brought his girlfriend along. This was a heinous
act punishable by a severe beating (chapter trip to another chapter,
and someone is bringing his ball  chain? Inexcusable! But what could
we say at the last minute?) Since he was driving, he expected his
girlie to ride shotgun. Well she did.

From montreal, all you need to do is catch I-89 southbound, then
switch to i-91 when you meet it, and that's basically it. We had
printed directions from 2 websites, written directions from the CT
chapter, and a big ole map.Since the gal got to ride shotgun, she got
to navigate for us.

Well, come 1am, we're lost. Turns out the gal decided she wanted to
see Brooklyn, and for ~100 miles, never noticed we were going in the
opposite direction.

We told both of them off and managed to find our way back using only
the map, with another set of driver/navigator.

Despite her massive screwup that cost us 4 hours and a tank of gas,
she still had her high  mighty 'tude all weekend and made life
miserable for the lot of us, whining about how our jokes were too
dirty, how we were drinking too much, how we didn't cook our steaks
enough, how we spent too much time swimming and never took her to see
the sights, how she didn't like the music we played, etc etc etc. This
is a failure by the boyfriend to dictate acceptable behavior. But
then, he only acts tough.

We should have kicked her out of the van in brooklyn as a decoy and
gunned it out. We were being eyed (very bad part of town, it seemed)
and we needed to get out of there FAST, but we had to find a way to
un-f*** ourselves after the number she did.

And we never needed to ask for directions. We got ourselves out of it :)

Long story short, she is now persona non grata at any and every event,
depite the two of em being engaged.

And that's the way I like it.

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Jumbo Shrimp is an Oxymoron

David J Brooks wrote:
 Is that the same as Jumbo Shrimp

 Dave

 On 5/28/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On May 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 
 SLR pioneer missed jump to digital

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 http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20070526a2.html
   
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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Like Military Intelligence??

-p

P. J. Alling wrote:
 Jumbo Shrimp is an Oxymoron
 
 David J Brooks wrote:
 Is that the same as Jumbo Shrimp

 Dave

 On 5/28/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On May 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 
 SLR pioneer missed jump to digital

 By REIJI YOSHIDA
 Staff writer

 http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20070526a2.html
   
 The writer is completely confused about instant return mirror and SLR
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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
But i still like to say it.:-)

Dave

On 5/28/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jumbo Shrimp is an Oxymoron

 David J Brooks wrote:
  Is that the same as Jumbo Shrimp
 
  Dave
 
  On 5/28/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On May 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
 
 
  SLR pioneer missed jump to digital
 
  By REIJI YOSHIDA
  Staff writer
 
  http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20070526a2.html
 
  The writer is completely confused about instant return mirror and SLR
  viewing.  I guess the USA is not the only country with incredibly low
  standards for reporters.
 
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Re: About to pull the trigger on the FA43 Limited...... Some thoughts?

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
That's a rare find these days.

A woman who can't cook isn't really a woman at all.

On 5/28/07, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, she's a great cook too, I'm a lucky guy ;-)

 On 5/27/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  HAR! Great shot. Pretty lady too, btw:-).
  Paul
  On May 27, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Fernando wrote:
 
   Hi Alex,
  
   Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with the DA40, I'm on the
   opposite side, I love that lens, I didn't think about selling that
   lens even having way too many lenses covering that FL: DA18-55,
   DA16-45, FA24-90, FA35, FA50/1.4 and A50/1.7 (yes, I'm a gearhead but
   at least I'm no longer proud of it...), not only I like the size
   factor (main reason for this lens) but also I like it's rendering
   qualities and I've never experienced any focus problem.
   In the end there is always a subjective factor involved in keeping a
   lens, and that's why it's only you who can decide what works better
   for you, right?
  
   Anyway I would buy that da40 from you if I wouldn't have one
   already ;-).
  
   The way things are shapping up, I'm pretty sure you'll end up buying
   that 43 and hopefully you'll find the so called 3D effect (comming
   from a guy that has an order for a 31Ltd on Henry's).
  
   This is one of the photos that I like from the DA40, that's my wife
   expressing her feelings about my excitement on the K10D purchase ;-)
  
   http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?
   id=369460334context=set-72157594500202302size=o
  
  
   Cheers
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On 5/27/07, AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Boris, thanks for taking the time to respond. (same for Godfrey,
   Rob and Bob ;) )
  
   I know the equipment doesn't make the man, believe me. I'm not a
   better athlete because my bike is nice, I don't lift more because the
   bar is nicely chrome-plated... etc
  
   What bothers me about the 40 is that it's so variable. It will
   give me
   a super-nice pic once and again, other times the pics will be
   slightly
   off. Some sligt misfocus (this is with AF, never happens on the 50),
   or slightly strange contrast, slightly faded colors. I think it's
   more
   aperture dependent than anything else, it has to be because my
   technique doesn't change shot to shot.
  
   In my opinion, the 50 can do no wrong, and it rules for marginal
   lighing. But the 43's pics have a perceptibly different quality to
   them. I just can't tell if it's Photoshop (there are a gazillion
   varibles if so) or the lens itself. I suspect it was much the same in
   the film day. An old photography book I have says you could really
   change the picture in the darkroom if you knew what you were doing.
  
   The whole two eye open thing, I haven't been able to do it with the
   digitals yet, neither with the 40 or the 50. The only camera that has
   allowed comfortable two-eye shooting was the Minolta SRT-201. I don't
   know what vf magnification it had, but it's a big ol' prism. The lens
   was a small 43mm which should be equal to a 28 on a DSLR. I will be
   playing with the kit lens in that range for a bit.
  
   The Engineering side of me really likes Rob's answer. There are
   simply
   too many variables to tell. And it satisfies the cheapskate side
   of me
   too
  
   I guess I'll be spending a bit more time with my existing gear before
   taking the plunge. It's the smartest thing to do. The 40 was the same
   kind of impulse buy this is shaping up to be and so far. meh.
  
   Bob, where have the two of you gone for the honeymoon?
  
   Alex
  
   On 5/26/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   As for keeper's percentage. I am sorry, but I don't buy your
   argument.
   More expensive and theoretically better lens does not make one
   better
   photographer, no offense intended here.
  
   I do admit that if I was *forced* to choose just one normal lens,
   I'd go
   for 43 ltd, but that's my *personal* preference.
  
   Notice also, that you may be able to shoot with your FA 50/1.4 with
   *both* eyes opened, which probably will not be possible with 43
   ltd...
   You seem to like optical experiments ;-), so perhaps it is time you
   performed some more.
  
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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
MR-52 digital SLR camera (2000)
An unnamed digital SLR camera, introduced Sep. 13th 2000, and then
displayed at Photokina 20 25 Sep. 2000. Its project designation is
MR-52.
6-megapixels CCD sensor by Philips and full image format (24x36mm) are
the new breakthroughs in digital photography. Other specifications
like the sister film camera above. Also see the  Photokina report.

They didn't miss the boat

Philips screwed them with the ccd.

On 5/28/07, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like Military Intelligence??

 -p

 P. J. Alling wrote:
  Jumbo Shrimp is an Oxymoron
 
  David J Brooks wrote:
  Is that the same as Jumbo Shrimp
 
  Dave
 
  On 5/28/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On May 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
 
 
  SLR pioneer missed jump to digital
 
  By REIJI YOSHIDA
  Staff writer
 
  http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20070526a2.html
 
  The writer is completely confused about instant return mirror and SLR
  viewing.  I guess the USA is not the only country with incredibly low
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Pentax Street photo exhibition

2007-05-28 Thread Dario Bonazza
Hi all,

Here are those pictures on show at Pentax Day:
www.aohc.it/pentaxday/pday12/IMGP3227r.jpg
www.aohc.it/pentaxday/pday12/IMGP3228r.jpg

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Re: Chill Out Surfer #2

2007-05-28 Thread Stan Halpin
I like the second shot better than the first. For me, what makes both  
of them is the subtle lighting, the coloration of the water. In this  
respect the first has a slight edge, but both are super. The surfer  
is a necessary added element, but the water texture and color is what  
makes them. And that is why on balance I prefer the second - the  
surfer is less obtrusive in the picture. In the first he fills so  
much of the frame that the eye is drawn back there and one loses the  
beauty. As a surfer action shot, the first may be better, as a good  
looking photo the second is my preference.

stan

On May 26, 2007, at 4:08 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?album=1pos=6#nav_pic

 Got this shot of another surfer just before sunset, the same day.

 That outing in March is the only high-quality time I've had with the
 K10D so far. Will be amended come June, though, so there's no more
 time for frustration...:-)

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Re: Pentax Street photo exhibition

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
What and where is Pentax Street? Seems kinda neat.

On 5/28/07, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Here are those pictures on show at Pentax Day:
 www.aohc.it/pentaxday/pday12/IMGP3227r.jpg
 www.aohc.it/pentaxday/pday12/IMGP3228r.jpg

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Re: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/28/2007 7:52:23 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Long story short, she is  now persona non grata at any and every event,
depite the two of em being  engaged.

And that's the way I like it.


I am not  overly fond of you, though.

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Playing with PhotoShop

2007-05-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Fooling around with some cloud pix last night and out popped Harry 
Potter's train on its way to Hogwarts.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm

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Re: PESO - olive sparrow

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/7/2007 7:20:28 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks for all the  comments.  I've re-done it in ACR quickly this  evening:

http://tinyurl.com/2y4ylv

Better?  I cropped it  differently (the original was a tiny crop, this 
one is cropped a tiny bit  more).

Thanks again!


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Now it's a good shot. Well, a great shot,  actually. Like the details, like 
the yellow under the wing, and like the  brokeh.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  Catching up with older  PESOs.
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Re: Pentax Street photo exhibition

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/28/2007 8:18:19 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all,

Here are those  pictures on show at Pentax  Day:
www.aohc.it/pentaxday/pday12/IMGP3227r.jpg
www.aohc.it/pentaxday/pday12/IMGP3228r.jpg

Thanks  to all who voted for choosing them, and special thanks to Godfrey who 
 
supplied a picture too.

Dario

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Re: Playing with PhotoShop

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/28/2007 8:38:04 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fooling around with  some cloud pix last night and out popped Harry 
Potter's train on its way to  Hogwarts.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm

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Re: Playing with PhotoShop

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
pfft, hary potter

This is the train from Back to the Future III

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Re: GESO - Hertzlia Marina

2007-05-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sorry for the delay. Much better now.

Generally speaking I have observed that you tend to render a bit darker than 
i prefer. I'm not saying that my taste is better than your, not at all. I 
just share my thoughts.

Tim Typo
Mostly Harmless.

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No, you're right. Usually I edit my stuff in the evening which affects
the results. I've re-edited it in the morning and if you don't mind -
could you please take a second look to see if it is all right.

My monitor is not properly profiled, merely with Adobe Gamma. But I've
printed recently several big enlargements and they seemed fine in color
and tone.

Boris




Tim Øsleby wrote:
 Thank you for the stroll.
 All nice, and the reflection with fish is more than nice.
 I wonder if the boats in harbor pics could do well with a bit more punch 
 in
 the highligts.

 Could be my monitor. I will look again when it is properly warmed up.

 Tim Typo
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 Hi!

 Today was very good light and so I made some shots and finally compiled
 a small gallery. Nothing special, just a bit of eye candy.

 http://boris.isra-shop.com/hertzlia_marina/index.html

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Re: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
Fine by me.

On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: PESO - glassblowers

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
What a great shot. I love the looks on their faces.

On 5/27/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The concentration and cooperation between these two fascinated me. It
 was a very cluttered place and difficult to get a clean shot. This was
 the best one I got. Please tell me what you think.

 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-12

 P.J. Alling: I hope I've worked out how to provide persistent links now...:-)

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/27/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SLR pioneer missed jump to digital

 By REIJI YOSHIDA
 Staff writer

 http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20070526a2.html

That seems a rather facile review of the last 60-odd years of Pentax history...

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Re: Working on my own web site for a change...

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/18/2007 4:10:30 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After months of having no  time to work on my own web site I now have a 
little time and am updating a  lot of old stuff. I'm planning on weeding 
out a lot of old photos that no  longer make the grade and I've been 
improving the HTML code (now XHTML) a  lot.

The latest section to get the treatment is my photo gallery from the  
Dolly Sods Wilderness (strange name, but that's West Virginia for  you):
http://www.robertstech.com/dolly_s.htm

No new photos there, but  a few have been revised with improved use of a 
profiles monitor and proper  colorspace.


I've seen some of those before, but those are  still wow shots, Mark. I 
especially like the first three. Especially the first  one. Really lovely 
gallery.

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Re: PESO - glassblowers

2007-05-28 Thread Doug Brewer

On May 27, 2007, at 4:33 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

 The concentration and cooperation between these two fascinated me. It
 was a very cluttered place and difficult to get a clean shot. This was
 the best one I got. Please tell me what you think.

 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-12

 P.J. Alling: I hope I've worked out how to provide persistent links  
 now...:-)

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Re: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread graywolf
GRIN! Everyone knows where that tree was before the hurricane of 1957.

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 On May 28, 2007, at 1:40 AM, graywolf wrote:
 
 That was not a joke, it was, except for the 102 houses,  
 exaggeration pretty much what I was once told by a lady friend. I  
 did find her house, but only because I had insisted upon her giving  
 me the street address.

 However, I will admit that men can give strange directions too.
 
 Once when I was looking for a place on St. Thomas, Virgin Islands, I  
 found myself completely lost and maps useless.  I saw this very old  
 and wise looking Rasta man leaning against a fence post by the  
 road.  I stopped and got out and he greeted me with a broad smile.  I  
 asked if he knew the way to the place I was trying to find.  He gave  
 me detailed directions which began...
 
 Mon, you go down de road an you make a lef turn where de old mango  
 tree usta be, den you go 'bout a mile and you make a right turn at  
 John Smif's house
 
 He went on for some time with these directions, while I nodded and  
 pretended to understand.  I thanked him and was going to go back to  
 the car, when he pulled out a gigantic cigar from his pocket and  
 asked me if I wanted to toke on some ganja.  I politely declined and  
 continued down the road, ultimately coming to a store where I got  
 directions I could understand.
 
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Re: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/19/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Probably the fear of the number 13 predates the event but it's been said
 that Friday the 13th is especially bad dates from Friday 13 October
 1307,  Philip the Fair, King of France, with the acquiescence of the
 Pope, rounded up the all Knights Templars in France for hearsay, they
 were found guilty, executed, and their lands and fortunes were
 confiscated by the Crown.  All in all I'd say that would make it an
 unlucky day, (if you were a Templar at least).


I'm way up at the top of a long thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating
what someone else has said, but:

When I was a kid, we were told that Friday the 13th was unlucky
because Judas was the 13th apostle (and hence the number 13 is
generally unlucky) and Friday in particular because that was the day
Christ was crucified (I went to a Catholic school).

IMHO, the Templar story is only strong evidence that Friday the 13th
is unlucky, not a reason for it.

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 29/05/07, AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They didn't miss the boat

 Philips screwed them with the ccd.

Eggs, basket?

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Re: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/19/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a contrast some American Indians thought 4 was a lucky number, and magical 
 too.

#4 was Bobby Orr's and Jean Beliveau's sweater number in hockey.  It
was lucky for them...

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
True,. Can't help but wonder what the slr world would be like it it
actually made production

On 5/28/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29/05/07, AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  They didn't miss the boat
 
  Philips screwed them with the ccd.

 Eggs, basket?

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Re: Image tone and contrast settings, K10D

2007-05-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
 What does every one here have there image tone and contrast setting on?

Since I'm shooting RAW  using CS2 for final image rendition, my camera 
settings are all at the factory defaults.
If you're trying to get images directly out of the camera without further 
manipulations, then using modified camera setting makes sense.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Image tone and contrast settings, K10D


 What does every one here have there image tone and contrast setting on?

 I ask this because i ran into a guy the other day with a K10D and a 360FGZ 
 flash.
 He asked me If my K10D over exposes and have I heard about it.
 He stated that he got from somewhere, to set image tone to bright and to 
 set Contrast to -2.
 I tried it and didn't notice much difference.

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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:10:53AM -0400, AlexG wrote..
 MR-52 digital SLR camera (2000)
 An unnamed digital SLR camera, introduced Sep. 13th 2000, and then
 displayed at Photokina 20 25 Sep. 2000. Its project designation is
 MR-52.
 6-megapixels CCD sensor by Philips and full image format (24x36mm) are
 the new breakthroughs in digital photography. Other specifications
 like the sister film camera above. Also see the  Photokina report.
 
 They didn't miss the boat
 
 Philips screwed them with the ccd.

Like how?

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OT: This weekend's annual camera sale

2007-05-28 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

I got some goodies this weekend.  One was an old H3v, SN 2 
(162).  (It's on eBay now.)
It came with a nice Super Takumar 35/3.5 for a mere $20.  Kept the 
lens (duh).  Produces really well on digital.
Also picked up 3 K-1000 bodies avg. $30 each, with lenses.  Nice condition.

There was another set of s/m lenses that I drooled 
after.  SuperMultiCoated 35/2 and 135/2.5.
They went for the predictable decent bucks.  But the 35/2 buyer has 
it for sale for $175.  Anyone interested?
If so I'll pass on his # to you.  Darkroom stuff was cheap.

I've not been on PDML much this past year.  Grad school has been 
great, but it takes a lot of time to do a good job.
Haven't had enough opportunity to go out shooting, film or digital.  Sad.
Oldest son graduated from college 2 weeks ago.  Long drive to 
Hillsboro, KS.  Shot lots of pics, though.



Sincerely,

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FS: Lots of Film

2007-05-28 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

Kodak -- All kept in my basement @ nominal temps.
1 Supra 800/36  04/2003 15 rolls
2 Max 400/2405/2002 12 rolls
3 Max 400/1205/2002  2 rolls
4 Gold 200/24   10/2001 36 rolls

And as a special bonus ...
1 Polaroid ID film 3 1/4 x 4 1/4
2 Bulk rolls Kodak Precision Line film LPD-4
3 Bulk roll Ilford FP4 plus
4 Polaroid C-41 print film, 200/12, 25 rolls, unknown condition.

$75 *shipped* (US) for all




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Re: Chill Out Surfer #2

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/26/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?album=1pos=2#nav_pic

 Got this shot of another surfer just before sunset, the same day.

 That outing in March is the only high-quality time I've had with the
 K10D so far. Will be amended come June, though, so there's no more
 time for frustration...:-)

I keep getting two fuzzy flowers...

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PESO 2007 - 24c - GDG

2007-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Out for a walk this morning with the L1 fitted with a borrowed Nikon  
20mm f/2.8 AF-D. I've figured out some of the things I was having  
difficulty with at first, getting more comfortable with the setup.  
Had a lot of fun ... this one goes well with the others in the Shape  
And Light set, I think:

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/24c.htm

Comments, critique, flames ... always appreciated.

The dynamics of using the camera like this really makes me wish  
Panasonic/Leica/Olympus would release a 4/3 Mount 19 or 20mm prime ... !

enjoy
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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/28/07, AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wanna get in shape?
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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
It is said the CCD had low yields and bad reliability, I think Philis
eventually discontinued it. They also say the camera was built
specifically around that CCD and would have required a lot of
reworking to use another.

No one really knows though.

From wiki:

In October 2003, Pentax canceled the camera, stating The cost of
manufacturing the prototype SLR 6-megapixel digital camera meant it
was not a viable product for our target market.[1]

The MZ-D was to use the same 6 megapixel (3072×2048) full 135 film
frame sized (24×36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips that was
used by the Contax N Digital. The lack of success of that camera and
the image quality problems it displayed suggest to some that Pentax
may have had other reasons than cost to cancel the MZ-D project.

On 5/28/07, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:10:53AM -0400, AlexG wrote..
  MR-52 digital SLR camera (2000)
  An unnamed digital SLR camera, introduced Sep. 13th 2000, and then
  displayed at Photokina 20 25 Sep. 2000. Its project designation is
  MR-52.
  6-megapixels CCD sensor by Philips and full image format (24x36mm) are
  the new breakthroughs in digital photography. Other specifications
  like the sister film camera above. Also see the  Photokina report.
 
  They didn't miss the boat
 
  Philips screwed them with the ccd.

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Re: PESO - glassblowers

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/28/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Back in 1980 i took a glass blowing class at Sheridan College in
 Mississauga Ontario, inspired after watching the glassblowers in a
 park in Stockholm in 1976.
 I found it not only a great experience, but relaxing. Just you and the glass

As you've proved to PDML while camping, you've got the lungs for it!

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Re: PESO: Garden Fountain

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6010658

Seems almost Daytonesque to me (that's an extremely high compliment, BTW).

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Re: PESO 2007 - 24c - GDG

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/28/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Out for a walk this morning with the L1 fitted with a borrowed Nikon
 20mm f/2.8 AF-D. I've figured out some of the things I was having
 difficulty with at first, getting more comfortable with the setup.
 Had a lot of fun ... this one goes well with the others in the Shape
 And Light set, I think:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/24c.htm

 Comments, critique, flames ... always appreciated.

 The dynamics of using the camera like this really makes me wish
 Panasonic/Leica/Olympus would release a 4/3 Mount 19 or 20mm prime ... !

Love the texture and the simplicity!

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Re: PESO 2007 - 24c - GDG

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
That i like. The starkness of the wall and the line and curve of the
pipe work very well.

Good one

Dave

BTW, someone wrote your copyright on the wall.:-)

Dave

On 5/28/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Out for a walk this morning with the L1 fitted with a borrowed Nikon
 20mm f/2.8 AF-D. I've figured out some of the things I was having
 difficulty with at first, getting more comfortable with the setup.
 Had a lot of fun ... this one goes well with the others in the Shape
 And Light set, I think:

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/24c.htm

 Comments, critique, flames ... always appreciated.

 The dynamics of using the camera like this really makes me wish
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Re: Playing with PhotoShop

2007-05-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Marnie -

Thanks for the comment.  It's the real thing - go back to the original 
URL and scroll down - after you asked, I added the original pix so you 
could see my starting point.  The final version was a .psd w/five layers.

-p

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 Fooling around with  some cloud pix last night and out popped Harry 
 Potter's train on its way to  Hogwarts.
 
 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm
 
 Kudos  and brickbats accepted...
 
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Re: PESO - glassblowers

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/28/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/28/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  Back in 1980 i took a glass blowing class at Sheridan College in
  Mississauga Ontario, inspired after watching the glassblowers in a
  park in Stockholm in 1976.
  I found it not only a great experience, but relaxing. Just you and the glass

 As you've proved to PDML while camping, you've got the lungs for it!

 cheers,
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Well, i did keep blowing the bottoms out of the bowls i was doing.:-)

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Re: Image tone and contrast settings, K10D

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
I use the camera defaults when shooting jpeg, and they seem fine. I
have noticed, and maybe wrong, but my images are sharper on a monitor
than the istD at factory settings.

Dave

On 5/28/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What does every one here have there image tone and contrast setting on?

 Since I'm shooting RAW  using CS2 for final image rendition, my camera
 settings are all at the factory defaults.
 If you're trying to get images directly out of the camera without further
 manipulations, then using modified camera setting makes sense.

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 Subject: Image tone and contrast settings, K10D


  What does every one here have there image tone and contrast setting on?
 
  I ask this because i ran into a guy the other day with a K10D and a 360FGZ
  flash.
  He asked me If my K10D over exposes and have I heard about it.
  He stated that he got from somewhere, to set image tone to bright and to
  set Contrast to -2.
  I tried it and didn't notice much difference.
 
  Interested to hear all the differing opions on this matter.
 
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Re: PESO - glassblowers

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/27/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The concentration and cooperation between these two fascinated me. It
 was a very cluttered place and difficult to get a clean shot. This was
 the best one I got. Please tell me what you think.

 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-12

 P.J. Alling: I hope I've worked out how to provide persistent links now...:-)

Cool shot!  (actually, I guess it's anything but cool in that room)...

;-)

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OT: Watch out guys! I'll be here for a while (2nd try)

2007-05-28 Thread Manuel Magalhães
Hi guys,

I’ll be around here for seven weeks watching every post and speaking just
about anything. I did a cervical spine surgery to remove a bad disk and put
a brand new one so I will be here with my cervical collar. I Will be
terrible in my critics although it doesn’t hurt (my spine). If I will speak
highly of your photos is just because I can’t see the computer keyboard very
well because of the collar. Be aware here I am.

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Re: OT: Watch out guys! I'll be here for a while (2nd try)

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/28/07, Manuel Magalhães [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I'll be around here for seven weeks watching every post and speaking just
 about anything. I did a cervical spine surgery to remove a bad disk and put
 a brand new one so I will be here with my cervical collar. I Will be
 terrible in my critics although it doesn't hurt (my spine). If I will speak
 highly of your photos is just because I can't see the computer keyboard very
 well because of the collar. Be aware here I am.

We usually start with Frank.:-)

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Re: Chill Out Surfer #2

2007-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
Sorry about that. Took me a while to figure out how to do the linking properly.
Here's (hopefully) a better one:
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-4

Jostein

2007/5/28, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 5/26/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?album=1pos=2#nav_pic
 
  Got this shot of another surfer just before sunset, the same day.
 
  That outing in March is the only high-quality time I've had with the
  K10D so far. Will be amended come June, though, so there's no more
  time for frustration...:-)

 I keep getting two fuzzy flowers...

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Re: PESO - Chalkman

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/9/2007 9:31:29 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=j4xTk8QF96

A fixture  on front of Toronto's Eaton Centre at Yonge and Dundas.

Comments always  welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO 2007 - 24c - GDG

2007-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
Nice one, Godfrey.
Jostein

2007/5/28, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Out for a walk this morning with the L1 fitted with a borrowed Nikon
 20mm f/2.8 AF-D. I've figured out some of the things I was having
 difficulty with at first, getting more comfortable with the setup.
 Had a lot of fun ... this one goes well with the others in the Shape
 And Light set, I think:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/24c.htm

 Comments, critique, flames ... always appreciated.

 The dynamics of using the camera like this really makes me wish
 Panasonic/Leica/Olympus would release a 4/3 Mount 19 or 20mm prime ... !

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Re: Playing with PhotoShop

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
Oh, wow. Thanks. You really did some creative  PS. And, you know, I like the 
original shot too. Nice train.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)
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Marnie -

Thanks for the comment.  It's  the real thing - go back to the original 
URL and scroll down - after you  asked, I added the original pix so you 
could see my starting point.   The final version was a .psd w/five layers.

-p

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 Fooling around  with  some cloud pix last night and out popped Harry 
 Potter's  train on its way to  Hogwarts.
 
  http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm
 
  Kudos  and brickbats accepted...
 
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Re: Bridezillas

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/27/07, Bertil Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A weird billboard and a weird dog. Shot on a gloomy Saturday in the
 middle of a roundabout - it's near the beach, that's why it's covered
 with sand. No, I have no knowlegde of why the dog is standing there,
 nor about who placed it there.

 http://mac.tidings.nu/Diverse/Bridezillas.jpg

 I didn't have my K10D with me so I had to make do with my ersatz
 camera, the Optio A10. I am guilty of slight Photoshopping on the
 billboard but not much else.

Fun shot!

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Re: PESO - Chalkman

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 5/9/2007 9:31:29 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
 http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=j4xTk8QF96

 A fixture  on front of Toronto's Eaton Centre at Yonge and Dundas.

 Comments always  welcome.

Quite the contrary.  I didn't touch it.

I tried to access a couple of my other Gmap photos, and it seems that
their server's down.

Maybe later?

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Re: Chill Out Surfer #2

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/28/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry about that. Took me a while to figure out how to do the linking 
 properly.
 Here's (hopefully) a better one:
 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-4


I like it.

I like the first one better, because it's a more dynamic shot of the
surfer (to my eyes at least), but this one features spectacular
lighting.

Great stuff!

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Re: PESO - Chill Out Surfer #1

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/25/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-2

 Thanks for looking, and all comments appreciated.


I should imagine that surfing in Norway in May would be a tad chilly!

Terrific shot, Jostein!!!

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Re: Chill Out Surfer #2

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
I see pink and white flowers.

Having said that, i like the flower shot alot.

Good background

Dave

On 5/26/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?album=1pos=2#nav_pic

 Got this shot of another surfer just before sunset, the same day.

 That outing in March is the only high-quality time I've had with the
 K10D so far. Will be amended come June, though, so there's no more
 time for frustration...:-)

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Re: Playing with PhotoShop

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
You do that, and i have a hard time removing a pole from a background
at a horse show.

Life is not fair.:-)

Good job.

Dave

On 5/28/07, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fooling around with some cloud pix last night and out popped Harry
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Re: PESO 2007 - 24c - GDG

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/28/2007 10:33:14 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Out for a walk this morning  with the L1 fitted with a borrowed Nikon  
20mm f/2.8 AF-D. I've figured  out some of the things I was having  
difficulty with at first, getting  more comfortable with the setup.  
Had a lot of fun ... this one goes  well with the others in the Shape  
And Light set, I  think:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/24c.htm

Comments, critique,  flames ... always appreciated.

The dynamics of using the camera like this  really makes me wish  
Panasonic/Leica/Olympus would release a 4/3 Mount  19 or 20mm prime ... !

enjoy
Godfrey

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RE: Watch out guys! I'll be here for a while (2nd try)

2007-05-28 Thread Bob W
 I did a cervical spine surgery to remove a 
 bad disk and put
 a brand new one 

That sounds kinda dangerous. Be careful not to sneeze.

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 Behalf Of Manuel Magalhães
 Sent: 28 May 2007 18:39
 To: PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: Watch out guys! I'll be here for a while (2nd try)
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I’ll be around here for seven weeks watching every post and 
 speaking just
 about anything. I did a cervical spine surgery to remove a 
 bad disk and put
 a brand new one so I will be here with my cervical collar. I Will be
 terrible in my critics although it doesn’t hurt (my spine). 
 If I will speak
 highly of your photos is just because I can’t see the 
 computer keyboard very
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Re: Watch out guys! I'll be here for a while (2nd try)

2007-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On 5/28/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did a cervical spine surgery to remove a
  bad disk and put
  a brand new one

 That sounds kinda dangerous. Be careful not to sneeze.


It helps to use mirrors...

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Re: PESO - Chalkman

2007-05-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/28/2007 11:17:12 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Quite the  contrary.  I didn't touch it.

I tried to access a couple of my other  Gmap photos, and it seems that
their server's down.

Maybe  later?

cheers,
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I'll try later  sometime then. Glad it's not me anyway.

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Re: About to pull the trigger on the FA43 Limited...... Some thoughts?

2007-05-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 In my opinion, the 50 can do no wrong, and it rules for marginal
 lighing. But the 43's pics have a perceptibly different quality to
 them. I just can't tell if it's Photoshop (there are a gazillion
 varibles if so) or the lens itself. I suspect it was much the same in
 the film day. An old photography book I have says you could really
 change the picture in the darkroom if you knew what you were doing.

Then perhaps you can have both FA 50/1.4 and eventually FA 43/1.9 Ltd 
like I am planning to do.


;-)

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GFM Weather

2007-05-28 Thread Cotty
Looks like things are quite warm in NC at the moment? Looks like temps
are staying high? Graywolf? So I won't need snowshoes?

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Re: PAW 2007 - 24, 24a, 24b - GDG

2007-05-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, not really. They are good as (almost) always is every shot you're 
showing.

They fit together and they work for me. And I am somewhat inspired to 
try something like this myself, but no promises ;-).

Boris


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Thanks Boris ... But do you have any other opinions or critique of  
 them to share?
 
 G
 
 On May 26, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
 
 Yep, I think it would work as hmmm a modern triptych ;-).

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/24.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/24a.htm
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Re: Editorial: Pentax missed the boat?

2007-05-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pentax would have been out of business by now as a result of  
releasing a camera with a crappy sensor.
Paul
On May 28, 2007, at 12:49 PM, AlexG wrote:

 True,. Can't help but wonder what the slr world would be like it it
 actually made production

 On 5/28/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29/05/07, AlexG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They didn't miss the boat

 Philips screwed them with the ccd.

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Re: About to pull the trigger on the FA43 Limited...... Some thoughts?

2007-05-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Huh? I am almost *always* two eye open with any camera and lens.  
 Particularly with a long lens, and particularly at sports events:  
 it's how you keep the camera on the subject when the subject is  
 moving fast in a high magnification field of view.

Well, I couldn't do it yet. May be I did not try it often enough...

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Re: About to pull the trigger on the FA43 Limited...... Some thoughts?

2007-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 28, 2007, at 7:55 AM, AlexG wrote:

 That's a rare find these days.
 A woman who can't cook isn't really a woman at all.

Ouch! Now that's a sexist comment if ever I heard one.

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Re: PESO: Garden Fountain

2007-05-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Frank.

On May 28, 2007, at 1:33 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On 5/25/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6010658

 Seems almost Daytonesque to me (that's an extremely high  
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Re: Chill Out Surfer #2

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
Agreed, now that i can se it.

:-)

Dave

On 5/28/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/28/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry about that. Took me a while to figure out how to do the linking 
  properly.
  Here's (hopefully) a better one:
  http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-4
 

 I like it.

 I like the first one better, because it's a more dynamic shot of the
 surfer (to my eyes at least), but this one features spectacular
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PESO 2007 - 24d - GDG

2007-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ok, so I know some of you aren't all that happy with my predilection  
to austere, minimalistic, form and shadow abstractions. Well, you're  
just going to have to deal with this.

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/24d.htm

Comments, critique, and the errant tomato (suitably overripe) always  
appreciated.

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Re: OT: Help! Need Myths

2007-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On May 28, 2007, at 2:00 AM, Bob W wrote:

 It was a man who gave me the most baffling directions I've ever
 received. In a town I'd never visited before he told me to 'turn left
 about 2 miles before you get to the big roundabout'.

He must be from Vermont, where the usual response to a query for  
directions goes: Hmm.. Yep... 'Can't get there from here.

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Re: About to pull the trigger on the FA43 Limited...... Some thoughts?

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
When i frame up a jump, i have both eyes open, so i can see the horse
coming. When i know it is two strides away, i gently shut one of them,
your guess:-), and then shoot. If i leave both open it screws up my
timing

Dave

On 5/28/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
  Huh? I am almost *always* two eye open with any camera and lens.
  Particularly with a long lens, and particularly at sports events:
  it's how you keep the camera on the subject when the subject is
  moving fast in a high magnification field of view.

 Well, I couldn't do it yet. May be I did not try it often enough...

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Re: About to pull the trigger on the FA43 Limited...... Some thoughts?

2007-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On May 28, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Huh? I am almost *always* two eye open with any camera and lens.
 Particularly with a long lens, and particularly at sports events:
 it's how you keep the camera on the subject when the subject is
 moving fast in a high magnification field of view.

 Well, I couldn't do it yet. May be I did not try it often enough...

It takes some practice. I had a hard time at first because I'm very  
'right-eye dominant', but I found it a good exercise to strengthen  
and improve vision in my left eye as well as allowing me to keep  
track of stuff going on in a scene when I was using a long lens.

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Re: About to pull the trigger on the FA43 Limited...... Some thoughts?

2007-05-28 Thread AlexG
What can I say, I have a real 1950s mindset when it comes to gender issues :)


Boris, it seems this will be the path I choose.

Meantime, I will try to sell the 40, as it is not making me happy.


On 5/28/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On May 28, 2007, at 7:55 AM, AlexG wrote:

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  A woman who can't cook isn't really a woman at all.

 Ouch! Now that's a sexist comment if ever I heard one.

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Re: GFM Weather

2007-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/28/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks like things are quite warm in NC at the moment? Looks like temps
 are staying high? Graywolf? So I won't need snowshoes?

 How's the forecast looking?

Sun followed by some dark periods, then sun again. Just not sure when
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Down Memory Lane to GFM

2007-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
Just in honour of the upcoming event, here are a few shots from my
trip to GFM back in 2004:

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=favpics

Have a nice time, you rednecks! :-)

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