Re: Gallery Rejects
The photos I remember being rejected: http://www.repiuk.nl/declinedbypentax Please don't copy these ugly pictures to a new declined by pentax site. I like to think the judges have bad taste, grab my camera and start having fun :) Toine On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember seeing a thread a while back inviting people to share photos that had not been accepted into the Pentax Gallery. I was hoping to start up another one - if anyone is willing to share, maybe we can share our rejects. :) Also, with your permission, I'd like to throw up all the photos on a Picasa (or similar free photo site) for a permanent rejected Pentax gallery photos. Just some thinking. Anyways, I'd love to see any rejected photos, I have several that I'll share here, some of which I'm quite proud of and not really bothered by my rejection. http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/Rejected?authkey=D2mjrpyoBi0 Additionally, if anyone would take the time to critically help me on my rejects, or anyone else who chooses to share, I'd love that. I'm sure there's zillions of 'rejected' photos that are very good, and maybe some also that can use the vast experience here to improve. rg2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Landscape School of Photography
G'day All, One from today for your consideration (~150kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_777e8c7568_o.jpg K20D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 10mm, 1/125 @ f5.6, ISO 400. Any all comments welcome. CHeers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Stroomi forest: K20D expanded dynamic range
http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008s=0category=landscapeblog=20080613161812 ^^^ Previously with K100D I'd probably just shoot fork and build a HDR, sometimes shot underexposed and applied tone mapping but K20D expanded DR really gives range expansion. It's hard to measure whether it's claimed 200% or less but I know it when I see blue sky, not just washed out white through the dark forest foliage. Shot in vibrant color mode here and this too shows... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Landscape School of Photography
David Savage wrote: One from today for your consideration (~150kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_777e8c7568_o.jpg This photo is currently unavailable. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Landscape School of Photography (Link updated)
Sorry folks. I updated the shot re posted it to Flickr that changes the image URL So here is the correct link. G'day All, One from today for your consideration (~150kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_705f0f56eb_o.jpg K20D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 10mm, 1/125 @ f5.6, ISO 400. Any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Landscape School of Photography
2008/6/21 Bruce Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Savage wrote: One from today for your consideration (~150kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_777e8c7568_o.jpg This photo is currently unavailable. I updated the image it changed the link. Here it is again: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_705f0f56eb_o.jpg Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Landscape School of Photography
David Savage wrote: 2008/6/21 Bruce Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Savage wrote: One from today for your consideration (~150kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_777e8c7568_o.jpg This photo is currently unavailable. I updated the image it changed the link. Here it is again: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_705f0f56eb_o.jpg Cheers, Dave Well done, you kept the horizon horizontal... Drew. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS: Pentax DA 18-55
I will send you a detailed user report to your e-mail, Jaume. Carlos Jaume Lahuerta escribió: Great! So, how does it compare to the Ds regarding AF? (specially low light) Do you see any improvement? I am considering the K20D that should be equal or slightly better than the K10D in this department... Thanks, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Landscape School of Photography
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:30:16 +0100, drew 2008/6/21 Bruce Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Savage wrote: I updated the image it changed the link. Here it is again: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_705f0f56eb_o.jpg Cheers, Dave Well done, you kept the horizon horizontal... Bugger - wish I'd said that.. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Black-headed gull
I agree, but I disagree. A lot technically excelent photos are made at Østensjøvannet. Some of them are interesting too. But this has something else, this is a moment of interaction. This picture tells a story. Give yourself a break, my friend. Pet your left shoulder, you deserve it :-) MaritimTim 2008/6/13 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/12 Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jostein: I like the interaction between the birds: Bit of an understatement here, don't you think! The interaction is fantastic. I can just imagine the bubble text! Jostein, I think you caught the ornithologic decisive moment ;-) Cheers, Christine LOL thanks Christine, I took about 50 shots last night. This one was the last one before the batteries ran out of juice, so it was a lucky catch in that way... :-) The site is a fantastic place to practice bird photography. A highly productive lake in the middle of an Oslo suburb, protected as a freshwater nature reserve, and with its own passionate fan-club: http://www.ostensjovannet.no/ (norwegian only...). The stationary birds there are accustomed to human presence, and have a soothing effect on the passing migratory species in spring and autumn as well. If you just knew the general quality of photos produced at this site, you'd know that mine would barely pass as acceptable. :-) But it's a nice start for a lens ownership, I think! :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double Click AF?
I don't know. But my guess is that this is a misinterpretation of the double check AF. MaritimTim 2008/6/15 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Was scanning dp forum, yesterday, and saw a couple posts which referred to K20D double click AF..without explanation. Anyone know what this is about? Thanks, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's always a good sign when I get to the end of a gallery and click madly hoping there is more. Mark! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double Click AF?
Yeah, or something to do with accessing AF info.(?) Thanks, Tim. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Double Click AF? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 5:48 AM I don't know. But my guess is that this is a misinterpretation of the double check AF. MaritimTim 2008/6/15 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Was scanning dp forum, yesterday, and saw a couple posts which referred to K20D double click AF..without explanation. Anyone know what this is about? Thanks, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: GESO: Cadiz
From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/20 Fri PM 10:48:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:43:37 +0200, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz My favourite of the Cadiz work is IMG_1068.jpg - but what on earth is that guy pointing at you? That looks pretty scary. That's a mains-powered hot-melt glue gun and, in skilled hands, it can indeed make a real mess of you. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Landscape School of Photography
Quoth Flickr: This photo is suddenly unavailable. David Savage wrote: G'day All, One from today for your consideration (~150kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_777e8c7568_o.jpg K20D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 10mm, 1/125 @ f5.6, ISO 400. Any all comments welcome. CHeers, Dave -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Landscape School of Photography (Link updated)
I've been noticing a common thread in your photography, you spend a lot of time in Pubs... David Savage wrote: Sorry folks. I updated the shot re posted it to Flickr that changes the image URL So here is the correct link. G'day All, One from today for your consideration (~150kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_705f0f56eb_o.jpg K20D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 10mm, 1/125 @ f5.6, ISO 400. Any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
I have a hot glue gun, and I'm not afraid to use it! mike wilson wrote: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/20 Fri PM 10:48:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:43:37 +0200, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz My favourite of the Cadiz work is IMG_1068.jpg - but what on earth is that guy pointing at you? That looks pretty scary. That's a mains-powered hot-melt glue gun and, in skilled hands, it can indeed make a real mess of you. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Gallery Rejects
http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/Rejected?authkey=D2mjrpyoBi0 Additionally, if anyone would take the time to critically help me on my rejects, or anyone else who chooses to share, I'd love that. I'm sure there's zillions of 'rejected' photos that are very good, and maybe some also that can use the vast experience here to improve. The RPS holds workshops for people submitting portfolios in the hope of a distinction. I went to a couple of these before I got the first distinction. They discuss the type of thing they reject straight away, and this may also help you. Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. If you choose a commonplace subject it's not enough for the photos to be very good, they have to be outstanding. The ones in your gallery are good, but they're not outstanding. Alternatively, they judges could be like the curators who rejected the Impressionists, failing to recognise the new wave. The Impressionists also established a Salon des Refuses. But if you think that you are in that position, be careful - you could be suffering from the Van Gogh fallacy. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
Spot metered on Grace, or matrix and trusting the flash to overcome her silhouette? Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 6:25 AM To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: GESO: Cadiz
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:03:27 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/20 Fri PM 10:48:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:43:37 +0200, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz My favourite of the Cadiz work is IMG_1068.jpg - but what on earth is that guy pointing at you? That looks pretty scary. That's a mains-powered hot-melt glue gun and, in skilled hands, it can indeed make a real mess of you. In that case, it's just as well it wasn't plugged in Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: PDML mascot sighted...
Yes, in disguise! (Nice catch) Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... in Costa Rican rain forest last week. Wearing a disguise. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/?photo=h38E321E7#954409447 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Landscape School of Photography (Link updated)
No, the common thread is empty glasses. I think Dave gets bored waiting for the refill. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been noticing a common thread in your photography, you spend a lot of time in Pubs... David Savage wrote: Sorry folks. I updated the shot re posted it to Flickr that changes the image URL So here is the correct link. G'day All, One from today for your consideration (~150kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2597448874_705f0f56eb_o.jpg K20D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 10mm, 1/125 @ f5.6, ISO 400. Any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
Bob, Is that the one where they say... Pack all your stuff up in that Van and Go Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternatively, they judges could be like the curators who rejected the Impressionists, failing to recognise the new wave. The Impressionists also established a Salon des Refuses. But if you think that you are in that position, be careful - you could be suffering from the Van Gogh fallacy. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
Spot metered on Grace. The flash contributes very little at this distance outdoors. Maybe half an f stop at f3.2. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spot metered on Grace, or matrix and trusting the flash to overcome her silhouette? Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 6:25 AM To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
Hmmm...I was thinking of setting up a group in Flickr for that, but maybe I'd finally activate my Picasa account for that purpose :-) Bong On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember seeing a thread a while back inviting people to share photos that had not been accepted into the Pentax Gallery. I was hoping to start up another one - if anyone is willing to share, maybe we can share our rejects. :) Also, with your permission, I'd like to throw up all the photos on a Picasa (or similar free photo site) for a permanent rejected Pentax gallery photos. Just some thinking. Anyways, I'd love to see any rejected photos, I have several that I'll share here, some of which I'm quite proud of and not really bothered by my rejection. http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/Rejected?authkey=D2mjrpyoBi0 Additionally, if anyone would take the time to critically help me on my rejects, or anyone else who chooses to share, I'd love that. I'm sure there's zillions of 'rejected' photos that are very good, and maybe some also that can use the vast experience here to improve. rg2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. Quick someone post a PESO... -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
How about; frogs, snakes, spiders, sunsets, sunrises, buildings, dew on stuff, children of all agesAAHH!!! Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:57 AM Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Untitled
Having seen yet again what superb work can be achieved in the hands of capable nature photographers at this year's Grandfather Mountain NPW, I've decided to try and improve my (in)abilites. Hopefully the first of many: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic34.html Canon EOS-1D mark II and Pentax SMC-A* 85mm 1.4 ISO 200, 1/2000th at f/1.4 Serious advice gratefully received. If anyone can ID the plant, I would be grateful. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
On Jun 21, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. Even worse: Seventy-five shots of the same subject (say, a waterfall) all bullseyed but at different focal lengths by the same photographer. Learn to edit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
Dewy leaves always a positive. For me, fall like colors are better than monochrome green, but the vase (?) sort of removes it from nature. Good leaf composition! Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Untitled To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 9:28 AM Having seen yet again what superb work can be achieved in the hands of capable nature photographers at this year's Grandfather Mountain NPW, I've decided to try and improve my (in)abilites. Hopefully the first of many: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic34.html Canon EOS-1D mark II and Pentax SMC-A* 85mm 1.4 ISO 200, 1/2000th at f/1.4 Serious advice gratefully received. If anyone can ID the plant, I would be grateful. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
I don't think many have any idea of what is good and, therefore, have no basis for editing. Posting to the Gallery will not teach them anything as they have no clue as to why they are being rejected. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 9:29 AM On Jun 21, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. Even worse: Seventy-five shots of the same subject (say, a waterfall) all bullseyed but at different focal lengths by the same photographer. Learn to edit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
That being the case, the dynamic range is even more impressive. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:36 AM Spot metered on Grace. The flash contributes very little at this distance outdoors. Maybe half an f stop at f3.2. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spot metered on Grace, or matrix and trusting the flash to overcome her silhouette? Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 6:25 AM To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: GESO: Cadiz
That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. Thanks Brian and everybody else for the comments! j On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:03:27 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/20 Fri PM 10:48:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:43:37 +0200, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz My favourite of the Cadiz work is IMG_1068.jpg - but what on earth is that guy pointing at you? That looks pretty scary. That's a mains-powered hot-melt glue gun and, in skilled hands, it can indeed make a real mess of you. In that case, it's just as well it wasn't plugged in Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
Good composition and colours. Yes, its a plant.:-) Not bad for a Canax. Dave On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having seen yet again what superb work can be achieved in the hands of capable nature photographers at this year's Grandfather Mountain NPW, I've decided to try and improve my (in)abilites. Hopefully the first of many: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic34.html Canon EOS-1D mark II and Pentax SMC-A* 85mm 1.4 ISO 200, 1/2000th at f/1.4 Serious advice gratefully received. If anyone can ID the plant, I would be grateful. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. Maybe they could start dropping them.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
Another super gallery of shots. The first one with the small dog is one of my favorites. Well done again. Dave On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, This is my typical post that happens every one or two months. Apologies for the on/off lurking. I'm just finished with a workshop with Alex Webb and Rebecca Norris Webb in Cadiz, Spain. We shot for four days, and these are my pictures for that time: http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz I'm shooting a lot with the M8, although the K10D with 12-24 comes with me always, just for when I need a wider perspective. The first picture of the set is with the K10D. Comments welcome, j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Agility photos. was Re: PUG reminder
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:49 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Agility photos. was Re: PUG reminder Bill, this shot from Matthew is very similar to how i shoot horse jumping. I focus at the base of the jump, which will give me some DOF in front and a bit behind, and what for the moment then shoot. Sounds simply, but it took a while to get the timing down. Lots of useless film, t first. The timing is what I am having trouble with. At least I have only killed a few billion photons Mr and Mrs Photon will be happy to hear that.:-) It took a while, but what works for me on head on shots or slightly angled is when i see the hooves, i shoot. For shots mostly at 80-90 degree's i back of a bit and take a wider shot, and follow the horse, with my eyes, in the finder, sort of like a pan, but the eye is moving, not the camera. When i see the hoof at the rail, i shoot. Works about 98% of the time. Dave William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
After an intense bout of submitting last autumn, I set up a rejects-gallery as well. Since then I've kept on submitting and I don't think all my rejects would fit comfortably even into an online gallery... So someone would have to select a few... :-) Jostein 2008/6/21 Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I remember seeing a thread a while back inviting people to share photos that had not been accepted into the Pentax Gallery. I was hoping to start up another one - if anyone is willing to share, maybe we can share our rejects. :) Also, with your permission, I'd like to throw up all the photos on a Picasa (or similar free photo site) for a permanent rejected Pentax gallery photos. Just some thinking. Anyways, I'd love to see any rejected photos, I have several that I'll share here, some of which I'm quite proud of and not really bothered by my rejection. http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/Rejected?authkey=D2mjrpyoBi0 Additionally, if anyone would take the time to critically help me on my rejects, or anyone else who chooses to share, I'd love that. I'm sure there's zillions of 'rejected' photos that are very good, and maybe some also that can use the vast experience here to improve. rg2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
On Jun 21, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. Thanks Brian and everybody else for the comments! j You've had a couple of these on your Water Molotov page, and I've liked them. Good to see the whole bunch together. I know you've probably posted about it before, but I'm curious how you convert to B/W. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
...if anyone would take the time to critically help me on my rejects, ... Since you asked, I'll give you my $.02 worth. YMMV--- +The two flowers are just that, two flowers, nothing out of the ordinary, just well exposed, colorful, but a bit too tightly cropped. There needs to be more (unique lighting, composition, interaction with insect etc) +Photo # 3 - I can't see why it would be submitted. +Photo #4 - a nice photo of a child, other than that nothing out of the ordinary. +Photo # 5 - a shot of a spider - more of a documentary, how is this any different than a zillion other shots of spiders? Too common a subject with nothing out of the ordinary. +Photo # 6 7 - Again, nothing out of the order other than these are most likely kids that you hold special - nothing wrong with that, but you need to ask if it might mean something to someone who doesn't know the children. Exposure is blown out for my taste in both BTW. HTH Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gallery Rejects I remember seeing a thread a while back inviting people to share photos that had not been accepted into the Pentax Gallery. I was hoping to start up another one - if anyone is willing to share, maybe we can share our rejects. :) Also, with your permission, I'd like to throw up all the photos on a Picasa (or similar free photo site) for a permanent rejected Pentax gallery photos. Just some thinking. Anyways, I'd love to see any rejected photos, I have several that I'll share here, some of which I'm quite proud of and not really bothered by my rejection. http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/Rejected?authkey=D2mjrpyoBi0 Additionally, if anyone would take the time to critically help me on my rejects, or anyone else who chooses to share, I'd love that. I'm sure there's zillions of 'rejected' photos that are very good, and maybe some also that can use the vast experience here to improve. rg2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
The well focused foreground leaf is a plus along with the contrasting blue behind it. The cluttered background the rim of the pot are minuses. These leaves make a nice subject and a composition of only 2 or 3 would work well. A decent start. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Untitled Having seen yet again what superb work can be achieved in the hands of capable nature photographers at this year's Grandfather Mountain NPW, I've decided to try and improve my (in)abilites. Hopefully the first of many: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic34.html Canon EOS-1D mark II and Pentax SMC-A* 85mm 1.4 ISO 200, 1/2000th at f/1.4 Serious advice gratefully received. If anyone can ID the plant, I would be grateful. -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
Juan Buhler wrote: That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. You what you're telling us is that it was a stick up? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz Juan Buhler wrote: That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. You what you're telling us is that it was a stick up? He'll probably adhere to his statement. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
Jack Davis wrote: I don't think many have any idea of what is good and, therefore, have no basis for editing. They must have *some* idea or they'd submit every photo they took, and I don't think even the worst of them do that! I think part of the problem for many is that their goal is to get a photo into the Pentax Gallery rather than to take a really good photograph, so they submit a whole lot of stuff hoping that somehow one of them will make it through the gauntlet. The first step is *trying*: Simply making the *effort* to evaluate and rate one's work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
I think shotgun offerings result from having no idea of what is good. If one should be accepted, 'BINGO, that image, in its entirety, will thereafter, be the standard for good. Not a way to learn photography. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 12:03 PM Jack Davis wrote: I don't think many have any idea of what is good and, therefore, have no basis for editing. They must have *some* idea or they'd submit every photo they took, and I don't think even the worst of them do that! I think part of the problem for many is that their goal is to get a photo into the Pentax Gallery rather than to take a really good photograph, so they submit a whole lot of stuff hoping that somehow one of them will make it through the gauntlet. The first step is *trying*: Simply making the *effort* to evaluate and rate one's work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/21 Sat PM 04:44:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: GESO: Cadiz That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. Thanks Brian and everybody else for the comments! j Tell me - are you feeling sticky, punk? On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:03:27 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/20 Fri PM 10:48:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:43:37 +0200, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz My favourite of the Cadiz work is IMG_1068.jpg - but what on earth is that guy pointing at you? That looks pretty scary. That's a mains-powered hot-melt glue gun and, in skilled hands, it can indeed make a real mess of you. In that case, it's just as well it wasn't plugged in Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. You what you're telling us is that it was a stick up? He'll probably adhere to his statement. This is all very fastenating. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
On 21/6/08, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: The well focused foreground leaf is a plus along with the contrasting blue behind it. The cluttered background the rim of the pot are minuses. These leaves make a nice subject and a composition of only 2 or 3 would work well. A decent start. Really appreciate that Ken, thanks. And Dave and Jack. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
Cotty wrote: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic34.html Canon EOS-1D mark II and Pentax SMC-A* 85mm 1.4 ISO 200, 1/2000th at f/1.4 Serious advice gratefully received. If anyone can ID the plant, I would be grateful. I can't I.D. the plant but the photo is pretty cool. I kept trying to decide if the plant pot background bothered me. I think it wouldn't if you didn't have the out-of-focus leaves in the upper right. Or those leaves wouldn't bother me if not for the plant pot background. The use of limited DOF is outstanding, though. (And makes me want that lens...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
Paul - Is the extended dynamic range active for raw files or is it part of the processing for a jpg? Thanks, gs On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
On 21/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I can't I.D. the plant but the photo is pretty cool. I kept trying to decide if the plant pot background bothered me. I think it wouldn't if you didn't have the out-of-focus leaves in the upper right. Or those leaves wouldn't bother me if not for the plant pot background. The use of limited DOF is outstanding, though. (And makes me want that lens...) Thanks Mark, appreciate it. I'm really into minimal DOF at the moment. Lots more to explore, and I'm going to make some time for stills - not done nearly enough in ages. The 85 1.4 is an awesome lens -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
This is nice, Cotty, but I'm not sure where you want to go with it. The scene is a bit complex for my taste in this sort of thing, the background is a distracting. Simplify, simplify .. crop tighter, minimize distractions, draw attention to the specific details that express what you would like the viewer to see. G On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Cotty wrote: Having seen yet again what superb work can be achieved in the hands of capable nature photographers at this year's Grandfather Mountain NPW, I've decided to try and improve my (in)abilites. Hopefully the first of many: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic34.html Canon EOS-1D mark II and Pentax SMC-A* 85mm 1.4 ISO 200, 1/2000th at f/1.4 Serious advice gratefully received. If anyone can ID the plant, I would be grateful. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
On 21/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: This is nice, Cotty, but I'm not sure where you want to go with it. The scene is a bit complex for my taste in this sort of thing, the background is a distracting. Simplify, simplify .. crop tighter, minimize distractions, draw attention to the specific details that express what you would like the viewer to see. Thanks Godders, I'm beginning to see the light -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
Cotty wrote: That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. You what you're telling us is that it was a stick up? He'll probably adhere to his statement. This is all very fastenating. His name is Bond, Juan Bond -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Value of a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax SMC Takumar M42 lens?
Hi- I found a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax Super-Multi-Coated Takumar M42 lens for sale. A quick google search says that it is a worthy lens. Only, nobody says how worthy. it looks like it was used, but not abused. It is clean, no yellow glass, slight wear to the aperture and focus rings. The iris is a little sluggish in return to full aperture, but appears clean, and oil free. Any idea what it should sell for? Thanks Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:03 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/20 Fri PM 10:48:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:43:37 +0200, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz My favourite of the Cadiz work is IMG_1068.jpg - but what on earth is that guy pointing at you? That looks pretty scary. That's a mains-powered hot-melt glue gun and, in skilled hands, it can indeed make a real mess of you. The couple on the scooter look a little concerned too. About the guy on a bench. I always grew bushes out of people's heads. I like your approach better. Cheers Beaker -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Untitled
You expect serious advice Cotty wrote: Having seen yet again what superb work can be achieved in the hands of capable nature photographers at this year's Grandfather Mountain NPW, I've decided to try and improve my (in)abilites. Hopefully the first of many: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic34.html Canon EOS-1D mark II and Pentax SMC-A* 85mm 1.4 ISO 200, 1/2000th at f/1.4 Serious advice gratefully received. If anyone can ID the plant, I would be grateful. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Value of a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax SMC Takumar M42 lens?
What it should sell for what it's worth and what it does sell for are three different things in my humble opinion. I was able to pick up a SMC Takumar 50mm f1.4 in near mint condition for $35.00 but wait, the package included a Honeywell Pentax H3v and an SMC Takumar 35mm f3.5. It was an e-bay auction and the seller thought they were selling the camera and throwing in the lenses. I wanted the 35mm lens and the rest was just gravy. I'd say the lens is actually worth $50-$100 but if the aperture is sticky you'll have to spend somewhere around $100 to have it CLA'd so buy accordingly, remembering that you can pick these lenses up for a song. The 50mm is essentially the same optical formula as the current FA 50mm f1.4. Beaker wrote: Hi- I found a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax Super-Multi-Coated Takumar M42 lens for sale. A quick google search says that it is a worthy lens. Only, nobody says how worthy. it looks like it was used, but not abused. It is clean, no yellow glass, slight wear to the aperture and focus rings. The iris is a little sluggish in return to full aperture, but appears clean, and oil free. Any idea what it should sell for? Thanks Mike -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 09:04:59AM +1000, Derby Chang wrote: Cotty wrote: That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. You what you're telling us is that it was a stick up? He'll probably adhere to his statement. This is all very fastenating. His name is Bond, Juan Bond Epoxy on both your houses ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 09:04:59AM +1000, Derby Chang wrote: Cotty wrote: That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. You what you're telling us is that it was a stick up? He'll probably adhere to his statement. This is all very fastenating. His name is Bond, Juan Bond Epoxy on both your houses ... So much for the ties that bind -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
Ironically, my last accepted picture was a BW shot of Grace that I put up a couple of months ago, but it's the exception that proves the rule. Generally, it seems that uniqueness is the current criteria. As well it should be. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about; frogs, snakes, spiders, sunsets, sunrises, buildings, dew on stuff, children of all agesAAHH!!! Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:57 AM Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - What is it?
What's orange, pops up on sunny days, and slows you down? Hint: this was shot through the windshield. http://www.crankygreek.com GS http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
The gallery i's not a teaching tool, so it shouldn't be expected to educate. And part of the problem with an overwhelming majority of rejects lies in the fact that the gallery is quite full. I'm sure they dont' want to add work endlessly. So, at this point, uniqueness counts more than it might under normal circumstances. -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think many have any idea of what is good and, therefore, have no basis for editing. Posting to the Gallery will not teach them anything as they have no clue as to why they are being rejected. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 9:29 AM On Jun 21, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. Even worse: Seventy-five shots of the same subject (say, a waterfall) all bullseyed but at different focal lengths by the same photographer. Learn to edit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Off to NC again...
Only this time it's for *vacation*. Especially needed by Dr. Lisa who's put in a string of weeks with 14-hour (or more) days. We'll do some hiking (probably one or two days at/near GFM) and I'm bringing a load of camera gear. I'm going to pack the 67 as well as the digital kit. We'll see if anything comes of it... Then there's the Blood, Sweat Gears 100-mile bicycle ride next Saturday. 102 miles forward with 13,000 feet of climb. Wish me luck. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
It's active for RAW files. You can select it in the ISO function screen. It limits the range of choices, eliminating ISO 100 and ISO6399. This apparently has something to do with using that capacity to exend the range. Paul -- Original message -- From: George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul - Is the extended dynamic range active for raw files or is it part of the processing for a jpg? Thanks, gs On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
Yeah, well having Grace as a subject isn't really fair, ya know. ;-)) Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 5:11 PM Ironically, my last accepted picture was a BW shot of Grace that I put up a couple of months ago, but it's the exception that proves the rule. Generally, it seems that uniqueness is the current criteria. As well it should be. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about; frogs, snakes, spiders, sunsets, sunrises, buildings, dew on stuff, children of all agesAAHH!!! Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:57 AM Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Value of a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax SMC Takumar M42 lens?
Thanks- I knew that- sometimes it takes another voice to temper an e-bay fit. And I was trying to ignore the sluggish aperture. (I just won an angle finder, Canon-M42 adapter with focus confirmation chip and camera backpack.) Cheers Mike On Jun 21, 2008, at 7:55 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: What it should sell for what it's worth and what it does sell for are three different things in my humble opinion. I was able to pick up a SMC Takumar 50mm f1.4 in near mint condition for $35.00 but wait, the package included a Honeywell Pentax H3v and an SMC Takumar 35mm f3.5. It was an e-bay auction and the seller thought they were selling the camera and throwing in the lenses. I wanted the 35mm lens and the rest was just gravy. I'd say the lens is actually worth $50-$100 but if the aperture is sticky you'll have to spend somewhere around $100 to have it CLA'd so buy accordingly, remembering that you can pick these lenses up for a song. The 50mm is essentially the same optical formula as the current FA 50mm f1.4. Beaker wrote: Hi- I found a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax Super-Multi-Coated Takumar M42 lens for sale. A quick google search says that it is a worthy lens. Only, nobody says how worthy. it looks like it was used, but not abused. It is clean, no yellow glass, slight wear to the aperture and focus rings. The iris is a little sluggish in return to full aperture, but appears clean, and oil free. Any idea what it should sell for? Thanks Mike -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Value of a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax SMC Takumar M42 lens?
those lenses aren't worth much at all with any problems because they cost too much to fix. fully working ones go for $40 to $120 depending on cosmetic condish. JC OCONNELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beaker Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:58 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Value of a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax SMC Takumar M42 lens? Thanks- I knew that- sometimes it takes another voice to temper an e-bay fit. And I was trying to ignore the sluggish aperture. (I just won an angle finder, Canon-M42 adapter with focus confirmation chip and camera backpack.) Cheers Mike On Jun 21, 2008, at 7:55 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: What it should sell for what it's worth and what it does sell for are three different things in my humble opinion. I was able to pick up a SMC Takumar 50mm f1.4 in near mint condition for $35.00 but wait, the package included a Honeywell Pentax H3v and an SMC Takumar 35mm f3.5. It was an e-bay auction and the seller thought they were selling the camera and throwing in the lenses. I wanted the 35mm lens and the rest was just gravy. I'd say the lens is actually worth $50-$100 but if the aperture is sticky you'll have to spend somewhere around $100 to have it CLA'd so buy accordingly, remembering that you can pick these lenses up for a song. The 50mm is essentially the same optical formula as the current FA 50mm f1.4. Beaker wrote: Hi- I found a 50mm, f/1.4, Pentax Super-Multi-Coated Takumar M42 lens for sale. A quick google search says that it is a worthy lens. Only, nobody says how worthy. it looks like it was used, but not abused. It is clean, no yellow glass, slight wear to the aperture and focus rings. The iris is a little sluggish in return to full aperture, but appears clean, and oil free. Any idea what it should sell for? Thanks Mike -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
Being involved in the gallery will expose folks to some very good work. Those examples will have their impact on anyone who is truly interested. The education comes as a result of the effort to have work accepted. As always, the greater the desire the more rewarded will be the effort. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 5:19 PM The gallery i's not a teaching tool, so it shouldn't be expected to educate. And part of the problem with an overwhelming majority of rejects lies in the fact that the gallery is quite full. I'm sure they dont' want to add work endlessly. So, at this point, uniqueness counts more than it might under normal circumstances. -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think many have any idea of what is good and, therefore, have no basis for editing. Posting to the Gallery will not teach them anything as they have no clue as to why they are being rejected. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 9:29 AM On Jun 21, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. Even worse: Seventy-five shots of the same subject (say, a waterfall) all bullseyed but at different focal lengths by the same photographer. Learn to edit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
Paul, If you were doing or work in weddings would you use this function or you would use the camera in nomal mode? Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's active for RAW files. You can select it in the ISO function screen. It limits the range of choices, eliminating ISO 100 and ISO6399. This apparently has something to do with using that capacity to exend the range. Paul -- Original message -- From: George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul - Is the extended dynamic range active for raw files or is it part of the processing for a jpg? Thanks, gs On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
Sorry. Should say: . . . use the camera in normal mode? Angel Angel Ramos wrote: Paul, If you were doing or work in weddings would you use this function or you would use the camera in nomal mode? Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's active for RAW files. You can select it in the ISO function screen. It limits the range of choices, eliminating ISO 100 and ISO6399. This apparently has something to do with using that capacity to exend the range. Paul -- Original message -- From: George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul - Is the extended dynamic range active for raw files or is it part of the processing for a jpg? Thanks, gs On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
Sure. I'll use it for wedding. I'm shooting one in about three weeks. The ceremony will be outdoors with sky background. Indoors, i'll shoot at 400 anyway No reason I know of to turn off the EDR. Paul -- Original message -- From: Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, If you were doing or work in weddings would you use this function or you would use the camera in nomal mode? Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's active for RAW files. You can select it in the ISO function screen. It limits the range of choices, eliminating ISO 100 and ISO6399. This apparently has something to do with using that capacity to exend the range. Paul -- Original message -- From: George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul - Is the extended dynamic range active for raw files or is it part of the processing for a jpg? Thanks, gs On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K20D Extended Dynamic Range
To expand on my previous answer, one of the toughest parts of wedding photography is preserving texture in the white wedding gown without relegating the groom's black tux to shadow hell. I haven't had a lot of problems with this in the past, but EDR will be a plus in this regard. Paul -- Original message -- From: Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry. Should say: . . . use the camera in normal mode? Angel Angel Ramos wrote: Paul, If you were doing or work in weddings would you use this function or you would use the camera in nomal mode? Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's active for RAW files. You can select it in the ISO function screen. It limits the range of choices, eliminating ISO 100 and ISO6399. This apparently has something to do with using that capacity to exend the range. Paul -- Original message -- From: George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul - Is the extended dynamic range active for raw files or is it part of the processing for a jpg? Thanks, gs On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Roman's point about extended dynamic range. I shoot in that mode almost continuously. About the only time I turn it off is if I need ISO 100 or 6400, and those times are rare. I've noticed considerably improvement in dynamic range over the K10D, but I was still surprised to see sky tones in this shot. In fact, I cropped it to leave a touch of blue at the top, although the part of the sky in frame was primarily white cloud. Thought it would be a complete burnout. There is a bit of flash fill here, which helps by boosting the foreground. But it's minimal as the shot is at 135mm, and the subject is quite distant. f3.2, 1/1250, ISO 200. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7434474 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
She is in the gallery twice, but she's been rejected quite a few times as well. I don't tell her about the rejections:-). Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, well having Grace as a subject isn't really fair, ya know. ;-)) Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 5:11 PM Ironically, my last accepted picture was a BW shot of Grace that I put up a couple of months ago, but it's the exception that proves the rule. Generally, it seems that uniqueness is the current criteria. As well it should be. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about; frogs, snakes, spiders, sunsets, sunrises, buildings, dew on stuff, children of all agesAAHH!!! Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:57 AM Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:05:42 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 09:04:59AM +1000, Derby Chang wrote: Cotty wrote: That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. You what you're telling us is that it was a stick up? He'll probably adhere to his statement. This is all very fastenating. His name is Bond, Juan Bond Epoxy on both your houses ... So much for the ties that bind OK - so basically what you're saying is that Juan was in a sticky situation. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cadiz
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO: Cadiz On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:05:42 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - Original Message - From: John Francis On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 09:04:59AM +1000, Derby Chang wrote: Cotty wrote: That was indeed a glue gun. Unplugged. You what you're telling us is that it was a stick up? He'll probably adhere to his statement. This is all very fastenating. His name is Bond, Juan Bond Epoxy on both your houses ... So much for the ties that bind OK - so basically what you're saying is that Juan was in a sticky situation. We better lay off or he might become unglued. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off to NC again...
As you requested I wish you luck, along with strong legs lungs ! Heck, its only 2.5 miles up in 102 miles ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off to NC again... Only this time it's for *vacation*. Especially needed by Dr. Lisa who's put in a string of weeks with 14-hour (or more) days. We'll do some hiking (probably one or two days at/near GFM) and I'm bringing a load of camera gear. I'm going to pack the 67 as well as the digital kit. We'll see if anything comes of it... Then there's the Blood, Sweat Gears 100-mile bicycle ride next Saturday. 102 miles forward with 13,000 feet of climb. Wish me luck. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gallery Rejects
What you say sounds good but it isn't born out in the majority of what I see being submitted. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects Being involved in the gallery will expose folks to some very good work. Those examples will have their impact on anyone who is truly interested. The education comes as a result of the effort to have work accepted. As always, the greater the desire the more rewarded will be the effort. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 5:19 PM The gallery i's not a teaching tool, so it shouldn't be expected to educate. And part of the problem with an overwhelming majority of rejects lies in the fact that the gallery is quite full. I'm sure they dont' want to add work endlessly. So, at this point, uniqueness counts more than it might under normal circumstances. -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think many have any idea of what is good and, therefore, have no basis for editing. Posting to the Gallery will not teach them anything as they have no clue as to why they are being rejected. Jack --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gallery Rejects To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 9:29 AM On Jun 21, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Commonplace subjects like flowers, children, lions in Africa - the kind of thing that can be well composed, focussed, exposed etc. but is no different from hundreds of others they've been looking at since the 19th century. I did a couple of sessions voting on photos in the Pentax Gallery this week and I can tell you that if I see another profile shot of woman holding a baby aloft I'm going to scream. Even worse: Seventy-five shots of the same subject (say, a waterfall) all bullseyed but at different focal lengths by the same photographer. Learn to edit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Doppler effect of a Chopin Waltz
Hope she remembered to buckle up. Hate if she fell and Bruch her bones sorry about that, couldn't resist. ;^) Long time PDML fan and lurker. Nic Walking in the centre of The Hague yesterday, I heard this Chopin Waltz coming along, obviously part of a music festival activity. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mxer/2581285273/ I wonder if she remembered her Chopin Liszt ? -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
