Re: PDML Annual Arrives!
Blurb said that it would be mailed on March 2nd, it arrived today. In a word: humbling -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Audio recording - was: PESO: One of my favourite spots - now with sound!
Ralf, It is nice to meet another audio recorder. I have a Zoom H4 which I really like. -Pasvorn On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I've always enjoyed exhibitions which include appropriate sound. In fact, at a recent Magnum exhibition about slavery there was a live choir singing spirituals. I have very poor hearing (as poor as it gets without me actually being medically deaf) but even though I know I miss a lot of the sound around me I often wish I could record the sounds of scenes I photograph, it really adds more than one dimension, I think, and playing back through headphones might help me hear some of the stuff I missed. Well, get one of these: http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/index.php Fits in a shirt pocket and produces stunning quality. Most of my on-location sound recording is done with one. Wouldn't want to be without it again. Here's a few more examples, mostly done with the H2. Best effect guaranteed when listening through headphones: http://www.fotoralf.de/audio/ Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: You might want to show this to your boss as you leave early today
Long working hours may raise the risk of mental decline and possibly dementia, research suggests. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/health/7909464.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Annual
2009/2/25 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: But mine hasn't arrived in Toronto, Canada. Bummer. So Canada really is the most unfashionable end of the earth -- I always suspected so. Delayed in a snowdrift, probably. Same here. :-( Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - (non photographic) An interestering blog
For fans of the Fab Four. http://thebeatlescompleteonukulele.blogspot.com/ Enjoy. Regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portrait Lens, Was:Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax SMC DA Lens - 40 mm - F/2.8
--- Em qua, 25/2/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com escreveu: De: William Robb war...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: Portrait Lens, Was:Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax SMC DA Lens - 40 mm - F/2.8 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Data: Quarta-feira, 25 de Fevereiro de 2009, 23:14 - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Portrait Lens, Was:Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax SMC DA Lens - 40 mm - F/2.8 As a lens for portraits (as well as for low light situations), what about the Zeiss 50/1.4 Planar T*? It's a superb lens (I own the older Contax/Yashica version). But I'd skip it in Pentax mount because it simply doesn't justify the price gap over the FA 50/1.4. The Pentax lens is a superb performer and costs around half of the other 50/1.4 options cost (and a little over a third of the cost of the Zeiss). There is also the Nokton 58/1.4 to consider as well as the new 55/1.4 from Pentax. Reports are trickling in that the 55 is a very slow lens for AF speed, but is very sharp wide open. William Robb I really don't need the AF capability, so I'll wait for the Pentax 55/1.4. Anyway, the Voigtlander seems to be a good option. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Old photograph, new PESO
Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/25/09, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d406406.htm A black white medium format shot from GFM. I tried lightening it up a bit, but decided I liked this dark look better. I wish I could display it *really* big - the detail is really marvelous - but we have to deal with bandwidth and monitor size limitations :) You used a film camera. Isn't that cute? There's a special place in hell for you. A little kiosk with a big neon sign. Process and scan in one hour -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: One of my favourite spots - now with sound!
Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: Started as a hobby in teenage years, then I made the terrible mistake of turning it into a profession Mark! A primal truth. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax SMC DA Lens - 40 mm - F/2.8
Greetings. For what you want to do, all other things being approximately equal, faster (lower F number) is better. Amirkambiz Hamedanizadeh amirkam...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pentax colleagues, I want to buy a lens for indoor and night shooting. I wonder which of the following lenses is better: . Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens . Pentax SMC DA Lens - 40 mm - F/2.8 The body is K10D, and the other lens that I have is Pentax 18-250. Is there lots of difference between F1.4 to F2.8? Cheers, Amirkambiz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
CV 20mm/3.5 SLII KA update on cameraquest
Mr Gandy is taking deposits for the 20mm SLII. http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt_SL2.htm I think I might hold onto my stimulus money for a little while longer until the actual price is announced, but this sure does look tempting. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Rounding 100
I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Sorry about bragging, but I just had to tell someone. This is the most appropriate forum, since 22 of the images are shot at official PDML gatherings (eg. GFM), or otherwise in the company of at least one other PDML member. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rounding 100
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:22:50 +0100 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Congratulations. give us a direct link. I would be overjoyed if i had submitted 100 images to the PUG at this point. Bran -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CV 20mm/3.5 SLII KA update on cameraquest
The stimulus money is only effective if it's kept within our economy :-) Cheers Dave 2009/2/26 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: Mr Gandy is taking deposits for the 20mm SLII. http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt_SL2.htm I think I might hold onto my stimulus money for a little while longer until the actual price is announced, but this sure does look tempting. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rounding 100
Thanks Bran! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/jostein%C3%B8ksne Jostein ( note: PPG ≠ PUG... :-) ) 2009/2/26 Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:22:50 +0100 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Congratulations. give us a direct link. I would be overjoyed if i had submitted 100 images to the PUG at this point. Bran -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portrait Lens, Was:Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax SMC DA Lens - 40 mm -F/2.8
Apologies - I stand misdirected and corrected... :-) On Feb 25, 2009, at 23:43 , David Savage wrote: Even more of a nit is the fact that there is no such lens as the D- FA 50mm f1.4 DS On 26/02/2009, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2009, at 19:14 , Christine Aguila wrote: I put together a little 50mm 1.4 gallery for you to check out. Just picking a NIT, but your gallery is titled D FA 50mm ƒ1.4 and each image is captioned SMC PENTAX FA 50mm ƒ1.4. Two different lenses, even though they are probably the same design. Which do you use? Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - too close to the action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8JBte2xZs 0:08 sec LOL It's not scratched.. :-o regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: light meters
I find metering very easy. I do bracketing - mostly three shots, when working with my K20 of K10. I don't have time for guessing and experimenting a lot. I often use TvA program for shooting in varied light conditions. I set the shutter to perhaps 1/250 and the aperture to F:8. Then i simply consentrate on my subject. I get sharp pictures, and almost always one, exposed right. Grain/noise is not a problem, when I sell pictures. The costumers just want sharp images. Grain is not really an issue. I often set the meter to -1/3 stop, in order to avoid burned highlights. Naturally I shot RAW exclusively. I also find the matrix metering on my K20 excellent. I recently did a lot of snow images. The snow was really WHITE - not grey. Burnded highlights were easily removed in Capture One 4.1 Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Feb 26, 2009 04:31 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Nick David Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com wrote: I personally really hate that process. Shoot, chimp, shoot, chimp. I like to just be able to shoot and know that the photo was exposed the way I wanted it. That's one of the myriad reasons I was so anxious to switch back to Pentax, in my experience with the cameras in the past the meters were extremely reliable. And I'm finding that's still true today, even with my older Program Plus. Even in tricky situations it -- for the most part -- chooses the exposure I would've chosen. I love it. So maybe I really don't need a separate light meter after all? That nasty old gear-headedness poking its head up again. ;) ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ My experience with camera meters is that pretty much everybody can do spot and centre-weighted right. But Matrix/Multi-segment is hard to get right, requiring either a large number of cells or some very good design work. The only low-cell count matrix meter I ever found to be any good is the original Nikon 5-cell Matrix meter used on the FA, F801(s), F601(m) and F4. The worst I've used are the Minolta/Sony's (Completely useless in low light with any point light sources). I found Canon and Pentax do deliver similar results, the Pentax are marginally better at the low end and the Canons better at the high end (the 60+ or 35 cells in the 1D/1Ds meters tells over a lower cell count). The best multi-segment metering, by a large margin, is the Nikon 1005 pixel Color Matrix Meter in both variations. Very hard to bamboozle that meter. But the histogram is an actual measure of how good your exposure is. However its only truly useful for the RAW shooter as a good histogram delivers the best data, not necessarily the best looking JPEG. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
For all but the most difficult subjects, you can use the spotmeter on a Pentax digital to determine zone exposure, although that's necessary only on rare occasions. I have a Vivitar 230XL meter that does incident and flash metering in addition to other modes. I never use it when shooting digital with ambient light or on-camera flash. The camera meters and histogram are fine for that. I do use the incident flash meter in the studio to calculate lighting ratios from multiple sources. When shooting digital, I shoot only RAW and go for the good histogram. It doesn't get any better than that no matter how many meters one might use. Paul On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Nick David Wright wrote: Chimping is looking at the picture you just shot on the back of your camera. I am intimately acquainted with the process, I assure you I have missed many pictures because of it. I don't think it matters if you're exposing to the right or just saying ooo pretty. ;;) The 18% reflectance thing is why folks invented the zone system. And the system works just fine with digital too if you have a meter that is reliable and you take the time to learn it. Then you can instantly choose the exposure you want without taking your eye from the finder. But then we are talking about hand-held meters here which definitely require a look away from the finder. ;) ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ - Original Message From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:18:06 PM Subject: RE: light meters Shooting digitally (more accurately, shooting raw) changes the way you meter. Whenever you use a reflected meter you have to deal with the fact that not all scenes are 18% reflective. One of the benefits of an incident meter is that you don't have to worry about that. All you have to worry about is metering the same light that's falling on your subject. However, because of the 'expose to the right' principle that applies when you shoot raw, the incident reading may not always give you the best settings for obtaining maximum detail in the raw fail. I find that using an incident meter tends to leave one or 2 stops of additional exposure available. So it is still worthwhile checking the histogram and adjusting if you have the time. This is not the same as chimping. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
Just for the record, any hand-held meter would be used with my film camera. In my experience most digital sensors do not rate at the same ISO as film does. My Canon's were generally about a stop hotter than the equivalent film. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ - Original Message From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:08:18 AM Subject: Re: light meters For all but the most difficult subjects, you can use the spotmeter on a Pentax digital to determine zone exposure, although that's necessary only on rare occasions. I have a Vivitar 230XL meter that does incident and flash metering in addition to other modes. I never use it when shooting digital with ambient light or on-camera flash. The camera meters and histogram are fine for that. I do use the incident flash meter in the studio to calculate lighting ratios from multiple sources. When shooting digital, I shoot only RAW and go for the good histogram. It doesn't get any better than that no matter how many meters one might use. Paul On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Nick David Wright wrote: Chimping is looking at the picture you just shot on the back of your camera. I am intimately acquainted with the process, I assure you I have missed many pictures because of it. I don't think it matters if you're exposing to the right or just saying ooo pretty. ;;) The 18% reflectance thing is why folks invented the zone system. And the system works just fine with digital too if you have a meter that is reliable and you take the time to learn it. Then you can instantly choose the exposure you want without taking your eye from the finder. But then we are talking about hand-held meters here which definitely require a look away from the finder. ;) ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ - Original Message From: Bob W To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:18:06 PM Subject: RE: light meters Shooting digitally (more accurately, shooting raw) changes the way you meter. Whenever you use a reflected meter you have to deal with the fact that not all scenes are 18% reflective. One of the benefits of an incident meter is that you don't have to worry about that. All you have to worry about is metering the same light that's falling on your subject. However, because of the 'expose to the right' principle that applies when you shoot raw, the incident reading may not always give you the best settings for obtaining maximum detail in the raw fail. I find that using an incident meter tends to leave one or 2 stops of additional exposure available. So it is still worthwhile checking the histogram and adjusting if you have the time. This is not the same as chimping. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: histograms
Histograms and light meters. The light meter, if you know how to use it properly, tells you what kind of exposure you're going to get. The histogram tells you what kind of exposure you actually got. The if you know how to use it properly caveat is what trips people up - even the best, most experienced photographers, occasionally. That's why good photographers check their histograms frequently. Data point: In editing the PDML Photo Annual, I found that approximately 80% of the images I received had overexposure/clipping problems serious enough to require significant Photoshop work to correct before printing. (And that doesn't include shots like Luka Knezevic-Strika's Leaving and Derby Chang's Wearable Art, both of which used overexposure deliberately for artistic effect.) Most people who don't think they need to check their histograms need to check their histograms. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rounding 100
Beautiful clean sharp work, Jostein. 'gratulations! Jack --- On Thu, 2/26/09, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Rounding 100 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 3:48 AM Thanks Bran! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/jostein%C3%B8ksne Jostein ( note: PPG ≠ PUG... :-) ) 2009/2/26 Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:22:50 +0100 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Congratulations. give us a direct link. I would be overjoyed if i had submitted 100 images to the PUG at this point. Bran -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rounding 100
Congratulations. That's quite an achievement. I know how much work that must have been. In fact, the PPG proved so time consuming that I haven't submitted anything nor rated any photos in at least six months, probably much longer. But the amount of effort required to get a photo into the gallery has made it a very nice collection. Excellent job! Paul On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:22 AM, AlunFoto wrote: I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Sorry about bragging, but I just had to tell someone. This is the most appropriate forum, since 22 of the images are shot at official PDML gatherings (eg. GFM), or otherwise in the company of at least one other PDML member. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax smc P-FA 35mm F2.0 or Pentax SMC-FA 50mm f/1.4
Amirkambiz Hamedanizadeh wrote: Dear Pentaxian, Thank you for kind comments. As far I understand, Pentax SMC-FA 50mm f/1.4 is more favorable. My wife increased my budget to 300 US$, so I wonder if it is worth to choose Pentax smc P-FA 35mm F2.0 instead of Pentax SMC-FA 50mm f/1.4, as it has better review in photozone? In general I do not take lots of portrait pictures, but I would like to start, in addition to that, sometimes need to take pictures in the night. Cheers, Amirkambiz I'd go for the 35/2. It's my go-to lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: snip But the histogram is an actual measure of how good your exposure is. However its only truly useful for the RAW shooter as a good histogram delivers the best data, not necessarily the best looking JPEG. Hi Adam, You mean that the histogram is based on RAW data? I thought it is based on the resulting JPEG, I remember a discussion is dpreview where they were trying to find out the best white balance to get the most accurate histogram for RAW -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
This the post I was mentioning: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=22957362page=1 On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: snip But the histogram is an actual measure of how good your exposure is. However its only truly useful for the RAW shooter as a good histogram delivers the best data, not necessarily the best looking JPEG. Hi Adam, You mean that the histogram is based on RAW data? I thought it is based on the resulting JPEG, I remember a discussion is dpreview where they were trying to find out the best white balance to get the most accurate histogram for RAW -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rounding 100
Jostein, I just paged thru your photos...Very nordic, coastal, and wintery. They are wonderful, and having 100 in the gallery is a real achievement. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:22 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Sorry about bragging, but I just had to tell someone. This is the most appropriate forum, since 22 of the images are shot at official PDML gatherings (eg. GFM), or otherwise in the company of at least one other PDML member. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
I have started using a light meter in the studio again. Histograms are great for telling you if you are clipping, exposing to the right or whatever, but they don't say anything about lighting ratios. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Growing up Puppy
I missed this one before, nice gallery! this one I like the most: http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/Pentaxian%20GESO/large-26.html On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Took some shots today of a German Shepherd puppy at the leash free dog park. http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/Pentaxian%20GESO/index4.html Not all sharp enough (damn AF) but it's a cute series... Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
That's where I use my flash meter as well. It's much better than the guess and look method of light adjustment:-). Paul On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:17 AM, William Robb wrote: I have started using a light meter in the studio again. Histograms are great for telling you if you are clipping, exposing to the right or whatever, but they don't say anything about lighting ratios. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
Christian wrote: Minolta Flash Meter III. It needs a battery but can be had on the used market relatively inexpensively. I have one of these as well. No complaints with it whatsoever. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax FA-J 75~300 Zoom
Is it any good? There is one on the web for 80.00 Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
William Robb wrote: I have started using a light meter in the studio again. Histograms are great for telling you if you are clipping, exposing to the right or whatever, but they don't say anything about lighting ratios. Yeah, in the studio a good incident meter would be the way to get lighting ratios. You can tell I'm not a studio guy! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Annual
Ken Waller wrote: Did you dis you postman? ;+] Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PDML Annual Þráinn Vigfússon wrote: The hardcover version with dust jacket arrived in Iceland today [...] Hmm. It has arrived in the UK. It has arrived in Australia, and now even Iceland. But mine hasn't arrived in Toronto, Canada. Bummer. So Canada really is the most unfashionable end of the earth -- I always suspected so. Maybe I should have asked Obama if he would bring my copy with him when he visited last week? We have a very nice postman (woman actually) who we bribe with treats at Christmas, so we don't get as much junkmail as our neighbors. :-) As fate would have it, my copy of the PDML Annual finally arrived. I'm just about to open and ogle it ... -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
shooting green
After the ass-whupping my ego got by looking at all your photos in the book, I return humbled and seeking advice. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614471200162/ The sun was out yesterday and I spent a few minutes shooting the cliff behind the office. When I processed them on my iMac, the colors looked unnaturally saturated. On my linux box, they don't pop in quite the same way, but they still look odd. Likewise, the shot doesn't seem to be quite as razor sharp as I'd like. I didn't use a tripod, but I did bench rest it, and shot at reasonably high shutter speeds. K100Dsuper, with the A* 200/2.8 that I've been borrowing from John and haven't had a chance to use in the past week. About the only processing done on these photos is dialing in the exposure with just a tiny bit of fill so the cliff shadows aren't pitch black. They are processed in lightroom and it doesn't show the green, or any, channel anywhere close to blown out. I've always had trouble shooting scenes with a lot of green in them, especially grass. Apart from trying again with a tripod, and maybe trying to set exposure and WB off a grey card, do people have any recommedations? -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA-J 75~300 Zoom
Forget it. It had bad reputation on film and even worse on digital. really, find the cheap Tamron 70-300, it will serve you better. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote: Is it any good? There is one on the web for 80.00 Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA-J 75~300 Zoom
Have seen a number of PPG submissions in which this lens was identified. My impression is that it does not produce 'impressively' crisp images. Jack --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote: From: Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com Subject: Pentax FA-J 75~300 Zoom To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:30 AM Is it any good? There is one on the web for 80.00 Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: shooting green
The rocks appear to have very good detail especially for the file size. Fine detail in the grass would be quite a challenge at this distance. The sun angle (diagonally from UL to LR) would be somewhat reflective and thereby lighten the tone of green. Why it should vary in the conversion, I can't say. Jack --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: shooting green To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:09 AM After the ass-whupping my ego got by looking at all your photos in the book, I return humbled and seeking advice. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614471200162/ The sun was out yesterday and I spent a few minutes shooting the cliff behind the office. When I processed them on my iMac, the colors looked unnaturally saturated. On my linux box, they don't pop in quite the same way, but they still look odd. Likewise, the shot doesn't seem to be quite as razor sharp as I'd like. I didn't use a tripod, but I did bench rest it, and shot at reasonably high shutter speeds. K100Dsuper, with the A* 200/2.8 that I've been borrowing from John and haven't had a chance to use in the past week. About the only processing done on these photos is dialing in the exposure with just a tiny bit of fill so the cliff shadows aren't pitch black. They are processed in lightroom and it doesn't show the green, or any, channel anywhere close to blown out. I've always had trouble shooting scenes with a lot of green in them, especially grass. Apart from trying again with a tripod, and maybe trying to set exposure and WB off a grey card, do people have any recommedations? -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
I have two light meters: Sekonic L208 and Sekonic L328. I use them both. I don't seem to have the problems that others report with the L208 suggesting underexposure but then, to me, a meter is just that: a meter. I interpret the meters' reading per what I know of the scene. The same goes for the in-camera metering system. I spend a good bit of time and energy learning what the in-camera meter does in all its various modes and a broad variety of lighting situations, using whatever tools are needed. Including the histogram display. And then, knowing what a meter does, I turn off all the analytic tools and just shoot without looking, when I'm working. My primary need for a hand held meter these days is for flash setups so the L208 gets only occasional use and the L328 is used with the standard incident dome 90%+ of the time. I also use it for calibration testing of the in-camera meters. Were I in the market for a new meter now, I'd buy the Sekonic L358 which replaced the L328 in their line. It has a larger dome and more sensitivity, a little nicer shape in the hand. But overall, learning the particulars of an in-camera meter and using it properly is more than adequate for the VAST majority of my work. That, and guessing intelligently. ;-) Godfrey On Feb 25, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Nick David Wright wrote: I personally really hate that process. Shoot, chimp, shoot, chimp. I like to just be able to shoot and know that the photo was exposed the way I wanted it. That's one of the myriad reasons I was so anxious to switch back to Pentax, in my experience with the cameras in the past the meters were extremely reliable. And I'm finding that's still true today, even with my older Program Plus. Even in tricky situations it -- for the most part -- chooses the exposure I would've chosen. I love it. So maybe I really don't need a separate light meter after all? That nasty old gear-headedness poking its head up again. ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)
From: Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:16 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - British PM On 23/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Comes up with a message box that sez I gotta' use Internet Exploder to watch it. It's a crap website. I can watch on Safari and Firefox on a Mac. -- It worked OK on Chrome, but I had to allow all cookies which I hate doing. Interestingly, the system detection told me I was using Safari in Windows NT 5.1 (I'm actually on WinXP Home. Apparently (in my untrained estimation) Chrome is a Safari based browser even though there's no Safari for Windows. All Micro$shaft current WinDOS operating systems are actually Windows NT dressed up in the emperor's new clothes; Windows NT 2000 and WindowsXP are Windows NT 5.x and Vista is Windows NT 7.x. Windows NT 6.x is a version of Windows NT Server. There's nothing in the new versions except bug fixes to undo the damage done by previous bug fixes and some unwanted changes the shell so previous versions of M$ Office and other M$ applications stop working forcing you to upgrade. All the new names are just a legalistic gimmick to evade antitrust oversight and evade contractual obligations; like naming Windows 95 was intended to break away from the Windows x.x name hierarchy which was, in fact, a trademark owned by IBM and due to revert to IBM in 2000. It's like when Intel named their new 586 processor Pentium. When IBM selected the Intel 8086 for the first generation IBM PC, they required Intel to have a second source for CPU chips in case Intel couldn't meet demand. Intel contracted with AMD, but the contract allowed AMD rights to subsequent x86 processor generations, and AMD was able to enforce their rights in court when Intel attempted to abrogate the contract when the Intel 80486 chip took off. There's some interesting things about Windows that are not widely known. The first successful version of Windows, Windows 3.0 was written by IBM, because Microsoft was bogged down with OS/2 v.1.0 (which sucked like a Hoover). IBM had to take over writing OS/2 and produced first a bug fix, OS/2 v1.10 and then OS/2 v2.0, which was the first really good version of OS/2. Windows 3.1 was an add-on written by Microsoft that added no utility to Windows itself, but made programs written to Windows 3.1 standards unable to run under OS/2 v.2.0 ... which IBM immediately fixed by releasing an OS/2 v.2.1 upgrade. OS/2 v.3.0, AKA WARP, was fantastic, rock solid stable; did everything Windows 95 promised and couldn't (including full support for USB)... 9 months before Windows 95 was even vapor-ware - but IBM literally couldn't give it away. Doing just that was seriously discussed in the PC Company where I worked, but the idea was discarded after objections by IBM's legal department, for fear of the U.S. Justice Department's reaction. In 1994, while I was working there, IBM was still operating under the antitrust consent decree they signed with the U.S Justice Department in 1956. One of my jobs was to work out memory management on IBM PC DOS 7.0 running on a Thinkpad 755cd so it could have 720k of conventional memory available so Microsoft's sales force could load their Windows 95 demo. The easy way to do it was run a virtual DOS machine in Warp (OS/2 v3.0) and tell it to use 720K, but Microsoft didn't want to do that. Anyway, OS/2 had great technology and no marketing, and was buried by Microsoft's fantastic marketing of their nonexistent technology. Frickin' IBM couldn't sell ice-water in hell. BTW, if you pull up the version information for Windows 95, it will tell you it's MS DOS 7.0 PS BTW, I dragged out Internet Exploder (I didn't bother to expunge it from this system, just hid it away) and watched the video. It *IS* fairly smooth and un-bouncy. Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: shooting green
In a message dated 2/26/2009 9:09:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, l...@red4est.com writes: Apart from trying again with a tripod, and maybe trying to set exposure and WB off a grey card, do people have any recommedations? Just one. Cough. You seem to be shooting a lot of test shots, so I'd suggest, just forget all that and shoot from your gut and have fun. Go for the photos, don't worry about the equipment so much. Take the above with a grain of salt. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
I still use a Gossen Pro F - both flash and ambient, accepts a proprietary variable angle adapter, display in needle/ circular adjustable scale, one 9volt battery. Old fashioned but effective. Some cheap, older lightmeters used leds to indicate the exposure, but usually were unable to present small differences under 1/2 stop. I had to use one from Vivitar for a while, and really hated that damned thing. Still older light meters used no batteries, relying on the output of a special foto-sensible cell and a precision (for the time) voltmeter. Dad used them, and they're around, but their output is questionable at least since 1970 - those samples we have in the house, I understand others are more reliable. Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square root of 1, then bracketed like hell. First time I took my Gossen to a friend's studio, by the time I finished reading Main and fill light he had made three sample shots and decided in a fourth aperture - ready to work... LF Nick David Wright escreveu: I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like something small and simple. What do you all recommend? Also I believe in the past I've seen some that do not require batteries, does such a thing exist? Thanks. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - too close to the action.
In a message dated 2/26/2009 4:25:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, farranth...@gmail.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8JBte2xZs 0:08 sec LOL It's not scratched.. :-o regards, Anthony === Heh. Says I have to be 18 to watch it, and I must sign in. Maybe someday. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
Attention please... the sample exposure test method works only with digital cameras... I simply forgot to mention he uses a Xti in his brand-new studio. LF Luiz Felipe escreveu: I still use a Gossen Pro F - both flash and ambient, accepts a proprietary variable angle adapter, display in needle/ circular adjustable scale, one 9volt battery. Old fashioned but effective. Some cheap, older lightmeters used leds to indicate the exposure, but usually were unable to present small differences under 1/2 stop. I had to use one from Vivitar for a while, and really hated that damned thing. Still older light meters used no batteries, relying on the output of a special foto-sensible cell and a precision (for the time) voltmeter. Dad used them, and they're around, but their output is questionable at least since 1970 - those samples we have in the house, I understand others are more reliable. Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square root of 1, then bracketed like hell. First time I took my Gossen to a friend's studio, by the time I finished reading Main and fill light he had made three sample shots and decided in a fourth aperture - ready to work... LF Nick David Wright escreveu: I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like something small and simple. What do you all recommend? Also I believe in the past I've seen some that do not require batteries, does such a thing exist? Thanks. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - too close to the action.
On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:25 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8JBte2xZs 0:08 sec LOL It's not scratched.. :-o Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball, eh? Don't know why Youtube requires a sign in for this. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)
On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:27 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? Yes, even the hobbyist cameras are so equipped. My little Sony video cam is stabilized. It's a near top of the line minicam from the pre-HD era. I used it in a boat to shoot wakeboarding on choppy water, and the results were quite smooth. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: light meters
From: Bob W Sekonic Studio Deluxe is probably the only current one that doesn't use batteries. It's a venerable standard that's been in use by professionals for years. It's not light by modern standards, but it's perfectly usable. It does require you to use metal slides under many circumstances. I had one for a long time - still have it, in fact - but now I mainly use a Sekonic L-308 M. I have also had an L-208, which is extremely small and light, but I wasn't happy with the readings it gave me - they tended towards underexposure - and it seems to have stopped working altogether now. Finally, I have an L-608 Zoom master, which is an all singing and dancing everything meter which I rarely use because of its size and because the L-308 M does everything I usually need. http://www.sekonic.co.uk/ KEH has a good selection of used Sekonic and other meters. They are currently showing an EX quality L408 (my own personal preference) - water resistant, ambient/flash, built in 5 deg spot, retractable Lumisphere for contrast light measurment and multi-flash mode for cumulative flash measurements (flash measurement operates with or without sync attachment). Aperture, shutter priority, and EV exposure modes. Requires a single AA battery, and in my experience even cheap batteries last a long time. I power mine with AA batteries salvaged from used disposable, one time use cameras. They also have an EX+ L508 which seems to be an upgrade from the L408. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)
On the topic of OS/2, I still have it running on my desktop. jm - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:27 PM Subject: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM) From: Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:16 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - British PM On 23/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Comes up with a message box that sez I gotta' use Internet Exploder to watch it. It's a crap website. I can watch on Safari and Firefox on a Mac. -- It worked OK on Chrome, but I had to allow all cookies which I hate doing. Interestingly, the system detection told me I was using Safari in Windows NT 5.1 (I'm actually on WinXP Home. Apparently (in my untrained estimation) Chrome is a Safari based browser even though there's no Safari for Windows. All Micro$shaft current WinDOS operating systems are actually Windows NT dressed up in the emperor's new clothes; Windows NT 2000 and WindowsXP are Windows NT 5.x and Vista is Windows NT 7.x. Windows NT 6.x is a version of Windows NT Server. There's nothing in the new versions except bug fixes to undo the damage done by previous bug fixes and some unwanted changes the shell so previous versions of M$ Office and other M$ applications stop working forcing you to upgrade. All the new names are just a legalistic gimmick to evade antitrust oversight and evade contractual obligations; like naming Windows 95 was intended to break away from the Windows x.x name hierarchy which was, in fact, a trademark owned by IBM and due to revert to IBM in 2000. It's like when Intel named their new 586 processor Pentium. When IBM selected the Intel 8086 for the first generation IBM PC, they required Intel to have a second source for CPU chips in case Intel couldn't meet demand. Intel contracted with AMD, but the contract allowed AMD rights to subsequent x86 processor generations, and AMD was able to enforce their rights in court when Intel attempted to abrogate the contract when the Intel 80486 chip took off. There's some interesting things about Windows that are not widely known. The first successful version of Windows, Windows 3.0 was written by IBM, because Microsoft was bogged down with OS/2 v.1.0 (which sucked like a Hoover). IBM had to take over writing OS/2 and produced first a bug fix, OS/2 v1.10 and then OS/2 v2.0, which was the first really good version of OS/2. Windows 3.1 was an add-on written by Microsoft that added no utility to Windows itself, but made programs written to Windows 3.1 standards unable to run under OS/2 v.2.0 ... which IBM immediately fixed by releasing an OS/2 v.2.1 upgrade. OS/2 v.3.0, AKA WARP, was fantastic, rock solid stable; did everything Windows 95 promised and couldn't (including full support for USB)... 9 months before Windows 95 was even vapor-ware - but IBM literally couldn't give it away. Doing just that was seriously discussed in the PC Company where I worked, but the idea was discarded after objections by IBM's legal department, for fear of the U.S. Justice Department's reaction. In 1994, while I was working there, IBM was still operating under the antitrust consent decree they signed with the U.S Justice Department in 1956. One of my jobs was to work out memory management on IBM PC DOS 7.0 running on a Thinkpad 755cd so it could have 720k of conventional memory available so Microsoft's sales force could load their Windows 95 demo. The easy way to do it was run a virtual DOS machine in Warp (OS/2 v3.0) and tell it to use 720K, but Microsoft didn't want to do that. Anyway, OS/2 had great technology and no marketing, and was buried by Microsoft's fantastic marketing of their nonexistent technology. Frickin' IBM couldn't sell ice-water in hell. BTW, if you pull up the version information for Windows 95, it will tell you it's MS DOS 7.0 PS BTW, I dragged out Internet Exploder (I didn't bother to expunge it from this system, just hid it away) and watched the video. It *IS* fairly smooth and un-bouncy. Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: shooting green
For what it's worth, the monitor it looked overly punchy on is the one that is calibrated. A year old 24 iMac. I wonder if it's a function of the monitor. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 01:31:30PM -0500, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: # In a message dated 2/26/2009 9:09:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, # l...@red4est.com writes: # Apart from trying again with a tripod, and maybe trying to set # exposure and WB off a grey card, do people have any recommedations? # # # Just one. Cough. You seem to be shooting a lot of test shots, so I'd # suggest, just forget all that and shoot from your gut and have fun. Go for the # photos, don't worry about the equipment so much. These weren't supposed to be test shots. I've been looking at that cliff and hillside for two years, trying to figure out how to shoot it. I finally figured out a composition that I liked with the cliff and the trees in bloom, and what should be the easy part doesn't seem to be quite right. Then again, after getting the annual yesterday, maybe my standards are being set too high. And just to prove that I am also shooting for fun Here's another shot that I've been playing with: http://flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614457075932/ I keep a bike at the office to ride to lunch when weather and time permit. It's parked next to venetian blinds and I liked how the narrow bands of light reflected off the spokes. They do sort of continue my theme of shots that didn't quite work the way I had envisioned, so I need to try again, once I figure out what it is that I really want. Also, just when I was going to transfer yesterday's shots onto my computer, I looked over and saw some rocks that my girlfriend was warming on the floor heater. I'll try to post a couple of those. I was playing around a bit with different lenses: 31, 40 and 50mm. But, since I didn't even get home from work until almost 11, I never finished the sort and choose, much less the final processing, portions of the job. -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA-J 75~300 Zoom
Walter Hamler wrote: Is it any good? There is one on the web for 80.00 With very few exceptions, you get what you pay for. Especially with long lenses and long zooms in particular. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - too close to the action.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball, eh? Don't know why Youtube requires a sign in for this. You'd think it should be required viewing: Don't try this at home, kids! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rounding 100
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:22:50PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote: # I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Congratulations! # Sorry about bragging, but I just had to tell someone. This is the most # appropriate forum, since 22 of the images are shot at official PDML # gatherings (eg. GFM), or otherwise in the company of at least one # other PDML member. I hadn't put the thought into words yet, but now that I think of it, one of my goals for this year (either 2009 or the second year of shooting with a DSLR) is to get some photos that are worth submitting. -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - too close to the action.
No big deal Marnie. Several adolescents riding and filming their own on a 18 inch bike. First trick, kid does a 360 spin down 5-6 stairs, but clip his buddy with the video camera #2 in the face destroying the camera. It's not scratched, but it is in 3 pieces. Second trick, kid rides atop an 18 inch planter wall to the right angle corner, and jumps down landing the bike sprocket on some dufus laying around the corner. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:33 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/26/2009 4:25:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, farranth...@gmail.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8JBte2xZs 0:08 sec LOL It's not scratched.. :-o regards, Anthony === Heh. Says I have to be 18 to watch it, and I must sign in. Maybe someday. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
Luiz Felipe wrote: Attention please... the sample exposure test method works only with digital cameras... I simply forgot to mention he uses a Xti in his brand-new studio. And he doesn't have access to a digital camera? That's how I shoot with my Pentax 67 (with the meterless prism): I take bracketed test shots with a digital camera, check the histogram and I'm set to go. Really works well on the 67 because, with only 10 exposures on a roll of 120 film, I need to make every shot count. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - too close to the action.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:43:25AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:25 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8JBte2xZs 0:08 sec LOL It's not scratched.. :-o Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball, eh? Don't know why Youtube requires a sign in for this. Godfrey Because somebody flagged it. YouTube don't make any a priori decisions. But if somebody decides to flag a submission as inappropriate then you will have to log in to be able to watch it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
Luiz Felipe wrote: I still use a Gossen Pro F - both flash and ambient, accepts a proprietary variable angle adapter, display in needle/ circular adjustable scale, one 9volt battery. Old fashioned but effective. I had one of these. Really nice meter but the ergonomics of a brick. Mine had some kind of circuit problem and drained the battery in minutes. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
From: Christine Aguila From: Bob W p...@web-options.com I have also had an L-208, which is extremely small and light, but I wasn't happy with the readings it gave me - they tended towards underexposure I've had this problem with the L-208 as well. Some Sekonic meters will allow you to adjust the exposure index to correct for over/under exposure readings. I know the L408 will allow you to set an Exposure Index Correction to +/- 9.9 EV that applies to all measurements taken with the meter until the correction is changed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
On 2/26/09, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square root of 1, then bracketed like hell. MARK! (though personally, I'd multiply by the square root of negative 1, and rotate everything 90 degrees in post-processing) -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
Mat Maessen wrote: On 2/26/09, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square root of 1, then bracketed like hell. MARK! (though personally, I'd multiply by the square root of negative 1, and rotate everything 90 degrees in post-processing) I'd go even further and rotate everything 360 degrees. Just in case. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
That's one Pentax I miss... Mark, he uses a digital camera - a Canon Xti - in that studio. I wanted to use the Gossen for a test, in my first try at his place. Something about being a grumpy old film critter... willing to use color neg in my LX rather than just using the Xti as he does. Still have some (5~11) rolls of 120 slide film around, leftovers from 2001 - an American Odyssey. Last month I opened two, stripped the film and winded eletric solder in the spools, to replace the the full size roll in a field trip. No, they're just expired - no later than july 2001. LF Mark Roberts escreveu: Luiz Felipe wrote: Attention please... the sample exposure test method works only with digital cameras... I simply forgot to mention he uses a Xti in his brand-new studio. And he doesn't have access to a digital camera? That's how I shoot with my Pentax 67 (with the meterless prism): I take bracketed test shots with a digital camera, check the histogram and I'm set to go. Really works well on the 67 because, with only 10 exposures on a roll of 120 film, I need to make every shot count. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - too close to the action.
On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:43, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:25 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8JBte2xZs 0:08 sec LOL It's not scratched.. :-o Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball, eh? Don't know why Youtube requires a sign in for this. I watched it with the volume off. Maybe there was some cursing? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
Sorry, but the moment you rotate anything off it's plane it just vanishes. I tried to lose my mother in law that way but my wife wouldn't allow it. Mat, developing slide film in the outskirts of civilized world may be a pain, believe me. Lost my temper more than once due to glitches that turned my lovely shadows into green/ purple fog, almost always when the shot couldn't be re-scheduled. We used to linger at the lab, waiting for the first results of the day - to check if our films would be developed that day or wait a while. No, sometimes we had no volunteers to the first run of the day... LF Mat Maessen escreveu: On 2/26/09, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square root of 1, then bracketed like hell. MARK! (though personally, I'd multiply by the square root of negative 1, and rotate everything 90 degrees in post-processing) -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Portrait Lens, Was:Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax, SMC DA Lens - 40 mm - F/2.8
Good lens, but way expensive. If you're going with manual focus, the Pentax SMCP-A 50 f/1.4 is, in my opinion, as good and will cost you less. From: Jo?o Moreira Hello all As a lens for portraits (as well as for low light situations), what about the Zeiss 50/1.4 Planar T*? --- Em qua, 25/2/09, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com escreveu: De: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com Assunto: Re: Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax SMC DA Lens - 40 mm - F/2.8 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Data: Quarta-feira, 25 de Fevereiro de 2009, 19:38 I have both lenses and I do like 50/1.4 more. And my recent favorite is 35/2. For night shooting tripod works miracles :) If you do not need AF cosider Voitlander 58/14 (excellent lens!) or old Cosina 50/1.2 --Sasha On 2/25/09, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: I have both lenses, their uses are different but if I had to get only one I would go for the 50 (actually the 35/2 looks more useful to me, but that depends what the intended use is) 2 stops is a lot of diffence. Weight what is more important for you and choose accordinly, but on the K10D the DA40 looses its main appeal: size. You are trading 2 stops (in other words the chance to take more pictures without flash, the chance of using a smaller depth of field in your photos, etc) for size (which again is somehow lost in a larger body). Still, I use them for different purposes, the 50 is more like a portrait lens in digital, the 40 goes when I want to make my camera small and get a tight normal. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Amirkambiz Hamedanizadeh amirkam...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pentax colleagues, I want to buy a lens for indoor and night shooting. I wonder which of the following lenses is better: . Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens . Pentax SMC DA Lens - 40 mm - F/2.8 The body is K10D, and the other lens that I have is Pentax 18-250. Is there lots of difference between F1.4 to F2.8? Cheers, Amirkambiz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
I used a Sekonic L318 for a long time. (about 15 years). Small, simple, sturdy and accurate. Uses a single AA battery that goes for a long time. Only reason I'm not using it now is that it went with my job when I retired. John Poirier - Original Message - From: Nick David Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: light meters I think that I'd like to purchase a hand-held meter sometime in the near future. But I'm not really sure which one I'd like to go with. Just looking to meter ambient light. I'd like something small and simple. What do you all recommend? Also I believe in the past I've seen some that do not require batteries, does such a thing exist? Thanks. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portrait Lens, Was:Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax SMC DALens - 40 mm-F/2.8
From: Christine Aguila - Original Message - From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Portrait Lens, Was:Pentax SMCP-FA 50mm f/1.4 Lens or Pentax SMC DALens - 40 mm-F/2.8 On 25/2/09, Christine, discombobulated, unleashed: I agree with William. That's worthy of a billboard. I'll print it out on some roll paper bring it to GFM ;-) Just make sure it's the squeezably soft brand. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:16:32PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Mat Maessen wrote: On 2/26/09, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square root of 1, then bracketed like hell. MARK! (though personally, I'd multiply by the square root of negative 1, and rotate everything 90 degrees in post-processing) I'd go even further and rotate everything 360 degrees. Just in case. That's still not enough. There are a few esoteric situations where it is possible to distinguish between odd and even multiples of 360 degrees of rotation. I'd suggest rotating through 720 degrees, just to be certain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: histograms
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 08:20:13AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: # Data point: In editing the PDML Photo Annual, I found that approximately # 80% of the images I received had overexposure/clipping problems serious # enough to require significant Photoshop work to correct before printing. Data point: Maybe the missing step in my workflow to get my shots as nice as the ones in the book is to have Mark do the post processing. # Most people who don't think they need to check their histograms need to # check their histograms. Are we allowed to Mark Mark? Although I don't think Nick said he didn't need to check his histograms, he said that he didn't want to. -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax FA-J 75~300 Zoom
I'd second that, in it's class it can't be bettered for the money, even the build is decent. I found it better than my FA 80-320 and F 100-300 which I've now sold, both. I've tried various Sigmas but non copared well. The Tamron made a nice combination with the DA 16-45 for travel. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 February 2009 17:10 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax FA-J 75~300 Zoom Forget it. It had bad reputation on film and even worse on digital. really, find the cheap Tamron 70-300, it will serve you better. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote: Is it any good? There is one on the web for 80.00 Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: histograms
I'd call this situation 2 marks for the price of one... Larry Colen escreveu: # Most people who don't think they need to check their histograms need to # check their histograms. Are we allowed to Mark Mark? MARK Twain... ;-) LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - They Love Pictures - GDG
Sometimes you can have too much fun. At breakfast with friends this morning ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/theylovepictures.jpg They Love Pictures - Mountain View 2009 Panasonic G1 + Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 Comments always appreciated. enjoy ]'-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - They Love Pictures - GDG
On Feb 26, 2009, at 14:15, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sometimes you can have too much fun. At breakfast with friends this morning ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/theylovepictures.jpg They Love Pictures - Mountain View 2009 Panasonic G1 + Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 That's a fun one, Godfrey. I know people who say I hate having my photo taken - I look terrible! - and 90% of the time, the reason they look horrible is they're making that hey, don't take my picture! face instead of just relaxing. These series really works well, though. I hope your subjects enjoy it too. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: shooting green
In a message dated 2/26/2009 10:53:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, l...@red4est.com writes: Here's another shot that I've been playing with: http://flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614457075932/ I keep a bike at the office to ride to lunch when weather and time permit. It's parked next to venetian blinds and I liked how the narrow bands of light reflected off the spokes. They do sort of continue my theme of shots that didn't quite work the way I had envisioned, so I need to try again, once I figure out what it is that I really want. Also, just when I was going to transfer yesterday's shots onto my computer, I looked over and saw some rocks that my girlfriend was warming on the floor heater. I'll try to post a couple of those. I was playing around a bit with different lenses: 31, 40 and 50mm. But, since I didn't even get home from work until almost 11, I never finished the sort and choose, much less the final processing, portions of the job. === Like it. It has a mood to it. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: light meters
I'd suggest rotating through 720 degrees, just to be certain. Which way, cw or ccw? Facing north or south ? You gotta be more specific in things like this. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: light meters On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:16:32PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Mat Maessen wrote: On 2/26/09, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Using slide film I'd go for incident light readings, trying to evaluate the shadow/ highlight ratios, and then consult my astral adviser, usually through some hours of meditation, then multiplied the readings by the square root of 1, then bracketed like hell. MARK! (though personally, I'd multiply by the square root of negative 1, and rotate everything 90 degrees in post-processing) I'd go even further and rotate everything 360 degrees. Just in case. That's still not enough. There are a few esoteric situations where it is possible to distinguish between odd and even multiples of 360 degrees of rotation. I'd suggest rotating through 720 degrees, just to be certain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: shooting green
In a message dated 2/26/2009 10:53:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, l...@red4est.com writes: Then again, after getting the annual yesterday, maybe my standards are being set too high. == P.S. Aha, yes, I suppose it could be intimidating. There are some very good photographers on this list, Ken, Jostein, Ann, Thrainn... well I can't list them all. A lot of the rest of us, remember those were our BEST shots. Many of us have shown shots on list that weren't nearly as good or well received. There are all skill levels here and people are pretty understanding of that -- I came on as a newbie and bumbled all around. In fact, am still bumbling, heh. Just to keep it in perspective. ;-) HTH, Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - They Love Pictures - GDG
In a message dated 2/26/2009 12:15:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ramar...@mac.com writes: Sometimes you can have too much fun. At breakfast with friends this morning ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/theylovepictures.jpg They Love Pictures - Mountain View 2009 Panasonic G1 + Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 Comments always appreciated. enjoy ]'-) Godfrey = Cute. Reminds me of one of those machines where you used to be able to stick in a dollar or so and get a strip of pictures. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CV 20mm/3.5 SLII KA update on cameraquest
From: David Savage The stimulus money is only effective if it's kept within our economy :-) Cheers Dave 2009/2/26 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: Mr Gandy is taking deposits for the 20mm SLII. http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt_SL2.htm I think I might hold onto my stimulus money for a little while longer until the actual price is announced, but this sure does look tempting. I ain't seeing all that much stimulus outa' what's been passed. What I understand, they're going to go for a reduction in tax withholding to spread it out over the year, so people won't just use it to pay bills and such. According to everything I read, I should get $400. That's going to amount to between $15 - $20 per paycheck for me ... but it ain't happened yet. Meanwhile, I'm already getting a $50 per paycheck cut in pay from my employer. So, when the stimulus finally kicks in, I'm only going to be seeing $30 - $35 less per paycheck instead of $50. Assuming I still have a job. I'm really inspired to go out right now and just burn a hole through my credit cards. Or maybe not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - too close to the action.
In a message dated 2/26/2009 10:57:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: No big deal Marnie. Several adolescents riding and filming their own on a 18 inch bike. First trick, kid does a 360 spin down 5-6 stairs, but clip his buddy with the video camera #2 in the face destroying the camera. It's not scratched, but it is in 3 pieces. Second trick, kid rides atop an 18 inch planter wall to the right angle corner, and jumps down landing the bike sprocket on some dufus laying around the corner. Regards, Bob S. == Well, I didn't THINK it would be objectionable, people don't post things like that here. Hmmm, I agree, wonder why it required a warning and sign-in? Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: shooting green
hey larry, hope you don't mind, but i touched the colors and tone in ps a little and this is the result. i think your original image was slightly off-colored and too light overally. the one i've ended up with is highly punchy, but probably it's supposed to be, all that grass, sunny day and stuff :) http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z93/posluzno/Untitled-gf1.jpg best, luka On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:33 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/26/2009 10:53:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, l...@red4est.com writes: Then again, after getting the annual yesterday, maybe my standards are being set too high. == P.S. Aha, yes, I suppose it could be intimidating. There are some very good photographers on this list, Ken, Jostein, Ann, Thrainn... well I can't list them all. A lot of the rest of us, remember those were our BEST shots. Many of us have shown shots on list that weren't nearly as good or well received. There are all skill levels here and people are pretty understanding of that -- I came on as a newbie and bumbled all around. In fact, am still bumbling, heh. Just to keep it in perspective. ;-) HTH, Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Trent Parke interview
I found this interview interesting: http://colinpantall2.blogspot.com/2008/01/trent-parke.html Technically is not OT, he says his first camera was a pentax ;-) -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - They Love Pictures - GDG
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sometimes you can have too much fun. At breakfast with friends this morning ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/theylovepictures.jpg They Love Pictures - Mountain View 2009 Panasonic G1 + Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 Comments always appreciated. enjoy ]'-) Those are great! Very Beatles-Hard-Days-Night-ish ;-) You just need two more people... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: histograms
In a message dated 2/26/2009 12:14:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br writes: Larry Colen escreveu: # Most people who don't think they need to check their histograms need to # check their histograms. Are we allowed to Mark Mark? Yes, or otherwise he doesn't include himself. Marnie ;-) Which ain't fair. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - too close to the action.
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:25 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht8JBte2xZs 0:08 sec LOL It's not scratched.. :-o Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball, eh? Don't know why Youtube requires a sign in for this. Godfrey Because there are several bad words not fit for tender ears. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rounding 100
In a message dated 2/26/2009 3:23:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Sorry about bragging, but I just had to tell someone. This is the most appropriate forum, since 22 of the images are shot at official PDML gatherings (eg. GFM), or otherwise in the company of at least one other PDML member. Jostein Cool, Jostein. Congrats! Marnie aka Doe :-) Not terribly, surprised, though. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Blunder?
Our friends at Pentax just sent me an e-mail today, inviting me to buy a white k2000: http://www.pentaximaging.com/slr/K2000_-_White/ They also invited me to wander, blunder and discover. I've been pretty good throughout my life at the second of those two - I wonder how they knew? Great ad copy, BTW... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)
John Mullan escribió: On the topic of OS/2, I still have it running on my desktop. So do I. I'm writing this using a computer running OS/2 4.5 Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - They Love Pictures - GDG
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: Sometimes you can have too much fun. At breakfast with friends this morning ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/theylovepictures.jpg They Love Pictures - Mountain View 2009 Panasonic G1 + Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 Comments always appreciated. enjoy ]'-) Brilliant stuff, Godfrey! Made me smile... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:27:22 -0500 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Anyway, OS/2 had great technology and no marketing, and was buried by Microsoft's fantastic marketing of their nonexistent technology. Frickin' IBM couldn't sell ice-water in hell. to get windows 95 preloads at a partner rate ibm was required by MS to not market WARP. what theyt laked was the balls to take on ms at that time. came out in the anti trust case. I ran os/2 from 2.0 though warp 4. Unlike MS they provided support: you got help to get networking runing at base levels, monitor at appropriate resolution, dial up functioning and printer running. through a toll free support line. almost as good as the community support for Ubuntu Linux. Bran -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trent Parke interview
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: I found this interview interesting: http://colinpantall2.blogspot.com/2008/01/trent-parke.html Technically is not OT, he says his first camera was a pentax ;-) Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: You might want to show this to your boss as you leave early today
In a message dated 2/26/2009 1:03:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: Long working hours may raise the risk of mental decline and possibly dementia, research suggests. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/health/7909464.stm All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. I love how science keeps proving things we already basically know. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rounding 100
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:22 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I just got my 100th photo accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery! Sorry about bragging, but I just had to tell someone. This is the most appropriate forum, since 22 of the images are shot at official PDML gatherings (eg. GFM), or otherwise in the company of at least one other PDML member. Wow, that's pretty amazing. That would mean that you have... (excuse me for a few minutes while I do the math) ...er... ...um... ...100 more pictures in the Pentax Photo Gallery than I do! That's quite the milestone, Jostein. Congrats. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: histograms
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: Most people who don't think they need to check their histograms need to check their histograms. I never check my histogram. And you can draw from that whatever conclusions you wish! ;-) cheers, frank (exposure? what's exposure?) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Growing up Puppy
They're not taped. The mono-ear or conehead is a pretty common sight in a GSD pup. Some Belgian pups go through the same stage too. Out of my 5, only one of mine was a conehead - though not quite as extreme as the german shepherd http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/85567127 His earset's still a bit wonky as an adolescent bonehead http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/108670311 Wendy On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Joe, Enjoyed the photos. Does he have his ears pinned up? Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Took some shots today of a German Shepherd puppy at the leash free dog park. http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/Pentaxian%20GESO/index4.html Not all sharp enough (damn AF) but it's a cute series... Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: histograms
In a message dated 2/26/2009 1:52:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: Most people who don't think they need to check their histograms need to check their histograms. I never check my histogram. And you can draw from that whatever conclusions you wish! ;-) cheers, frank (exposure? what's exposure?) Well, there's got to be something you still don't care about, since you shooting sharp photos now. Marnie :-) I am relieved. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: histograms
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: Most people who don't think they need to check their histograms need to check their histograms. I never check my histogram. And you can draw from that whatever conclusions you wish! You're not most people. And you can draw from that whatever conclusions *you* wish! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Winding down after work
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: Tonight it was two of these: http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2009/02/perfect-margarita.html Krikeys! That's too much colour for me. I'll have a Guinness, please... ;-) We're waiting for 700 people to be laid off by March whatever that means... Sorry to hear that. That's a lot of stress to live with. Assuming you survive (I'm sure you will) you'll have the stress and survivor's guilt of a number of your colleagues getting the axe. There's no upside to this - except for in the eyes the beancounters and shareholders, of course... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: histograms
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: You're not most people. I'm sure that most people are happy to hear that. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:27:22 -0500 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Anyway, OS/2 had great technology and no marketing, and was buried by Microsoft's fantastic marketing of their nonexistent technology. Frickin' IBM couldn't sell ice-water in hell. to get windows 95 preloads at a partner rate ibm was required by MS to not market WARP. what theyt laked was the balls to take on ms at that time. came out in the anti trust case. I ran os/2 from 2.0 though warp 4. Unlike MS they provided support: you got help to get networking runing at base levels, monitor at appropriate resolution, dial up functioning and printer running. through a toll free support line. almost as good as the community support for Ubuntu Linux. Bran One major factor that lead to Window's dominance rather than OS/2's is that much of the enthusiast community shunned OS/2 due to its utter incompatibility with dos4gw-based applications (and similar direct-hardware-access based software) and thus pretty much every major game of the mid-1990's. Windows 3.1 could just be shut down and the game run in DOS and Win95 had MUCH better support for DOS games than OS/2. A surprisingly large amount of the market, especially the home market, was influenced by this fact. Otherwise we'd all be running OS/2 today, or even more likely Deskview/X (which was superior to OS/2 in many regards). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: announce: FOTO NOVA 19 reception at Modernbook Gallery, March 6, 7-10 pm - GDP
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: My apologies in advance for those that might receive this announcement notice more than once. I think I knew about it (I think) but it's still very cool! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Station Mascot, something a bit different for me.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:40 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: One of the graduates girl friend brought in a friend to watch the proceedings. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8641096 D200, 18-70, SB800 flash, bounced, Nef file converted in LR 2 Dave That's one cute dog! Very well captured, Dave. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Open Door
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8622872 I'm late looking, but I really like this one. Composition and lighting are very interesting. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Periodic OT anti-Micro$oft rant (was RE: OT - British PM)
On 26/2/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Does modern commercial video equipment include image stabilization? ? Do you mean 'professional' ? If so, no. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
