Re: GESO - Egypt day 1

2010-04-28 Thread David Parsons
I accept your challenge, and will post the list of 10 when I have
uploaded all the pictures from the trip.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 From: David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com
 Subject: GESO - Egypt day 1
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 4:55 PM
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/

 We had a great time in Egypt with several of my wife's
 coworkers.  The
 first day was in Luxor with a dawn balloon ride, followed
 by the Vally
 of the Kings, then Karnak and Lusor temples.

 More to come each day.

 You have some nice pics there, Dave, like

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4558109265/in/set-72157623937952158/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4558111757/in/set-72157623937952158/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4558121865/in/set-72157623937952158/

 The problem with Egypt is that you can't swing a dead cat without
 hitting a good photo. So I dare you to make a set of TEN photos from
 your Egypt trip. Just ten, not randomly chosen, awesome photos.

 That's your mission should you choose to accept it.

 Note: This e-mail would self-destruct if Gmail allowed the inclusion
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transcend class 10 sdhc card in a K-x ?

2010-04-28 Thread Larry Colen
I've been having good luck with my transcend class 6 sdhc cards, and  
most of the reviews for their class 10 cards have been favorable.

They are also half the cost of the sandisk.

Then I saw this review:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1A40Y4F6WXZI2/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R1A40Y4F6WXZI2

I bought this for my pentax K-x but it would randomly corrupt images.  
Also, it was slower than my 3+ year old SandDisk Ultra 1GB card. I was  
told by the seller (Thememstore) that others with the k-x have had the  
same problems. So apparently it must have something to do with the  
class 10 part, because since I returned this card I bought a SandDisk  
Extreme III 4GB Class 6 and it works far better.


feh, I don't want to spend twice as much if I don't have to, but  
that's better than losing pictures.


Also, has anyone done any tests between 20 and 30 mb/s cards in their  
cameras and noticed a difference? As has been observed, you want a  
card that's just a little faster than your camera, but how fast is that?




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Re: transcend class 10 sdhc card in a K-x ?

2010-04-28 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen

Subject: transcend class 10 sdhc card in a K-x ?




feh, I don't want to spend twice as much if I don't have to, but  that's 
better than losing pictures.


Card reliability is a little pricey, you have to decide if your pictures are 
worth it.




Also, has anyone done any tests between 20 and 30 mb/s cards in their 
cameras and noticed a difference? As has been observed, you want a  card 
that's just a little faster than your camera, but how fast is that?




I mostly use 15mb/s cards in my K7. It's fast enough, but the K7 also has a 
larger buffer.


William Robb


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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
What? A K-7 replacement being discussed already?

As someone who rarely buys camera equipment, especially DSLRs, I'd like just
a few moments to reflect in the moment of having something you can still buy
new in a shop. A rare moment indeed for me.

Meanwhile, I leave you to your thoughts of what is coming next, hopefully
not next week...

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 07:17:20AM +0100, Malcolm Smith wrote:
 What? A K-7 replacement being discussed already?

Hey, this is the PDML - we were discussing a K-7 replacement before
the first K-7 shipped to a customer, to fix the obvious problems
with the camera.  Pretty much everybody agreed that there were some
shortcomings, even if there wasn't quite as much agreement on what
those deficiencies actually were.

 
 As someone who rarely buys camera equipment, especially DSLRs, I'd like just
 a few moments to reflect in the moment of having something you can still buy
 new in a shop. A rare moment indeed for me.
 
 Meanwhile, I leave you to your thoughts of what is coming next, hopefully
 not next week...
 
 Malcolm
 
 
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645DII

2010-04-28 Thread Warren Kato
It will same the same size sensor as the present camera but will be
mirrorless with live view and a very short lens flange to sensor
design allowing the use of any camera lens, and, yes, full frame
Pentax 35mm lens.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: John Francis

Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?




Hey, this is the PDML - we were discussing a K-7 replacement before
the first K-7 shipped to a customer, to fix the obvious problems
with the camera.  Pretty much everybody agreed that there were some
shortcomings, even if there wasn't quite as much agreement on what
those deficiencies actually were.


The nice thing about Pentax is that the shortcomings are accurately 
predictable.


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Re: 645DII

2010-04-28 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/28 Warren Kato wkk...@gmail.com:
 It will same the same size sensor as the present camera but will be
 mirrorless with live view and a very short lens flange to sensor
 design allowing the use of any camera lens, and, yes, full frame
 Pentax 35mm lens.

That may be the oddest, unsubstantiated rumor I have read on this list.

thanks,
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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

2010-04-28 Thread SV Hovland
The aurora picture is amazing and also frustrating to look at considering I was 
there sleeping :-)

Stig Vidar Hovland


Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av AlunFoto 
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Sendt: 27. april 2010 21:20
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Emne: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=20

Specials for me:
The aurora pic was taken with a borrowed K-x at ISO 6400.
The Rock-and-puddle landscapes were results of playing around with the
DA 10-17 fisheye.
In the people shot, the guy on the left is Amund, who hosted the whole
thing and made all the practical arrangements to everyone's
satisfaction.

Cheers,
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PAW16 - Orchid

2010-04-28 Thread DagT
Link as usual
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, DFA 100mm macro, 1/60s, f/8.0, ISO200

The other PAWs are here:
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html

DagT
http://www.thrane.name

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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Malcolm Smith
 John Francis wrote:

 Hey, this is the PDML - we were discussing a K-7 replacement before
 the first K-7 shipped to a customer, to fix the obvious problems
 with the camera.  Pretty much everybody agreed that there were some
 shortcomings, even if there wasn't quite as much agreement on what
 those deficiencies actually were.

I know sigh.

If I remember correctly it goes something like this:

Discussion about why Pentax does not produce a camera fully featured to
match/better rivals.

Pentax announce said camera will be made.

Discussion about huge length of time to launch.

Pentax launch camera.

Discussion on how expensive new camera is.

Price reductions follow.

Discussion on why new camera does not have an aperture simulator and why
Pentax does not produce a fully featured camera to match/better rivals..

Malcolm 


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Re: OT - Red Wine (was: Re: The PDML Annual has Landed)

2010-04-28 Thread Larry Colen


On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:56 PM, John Celio wrote:


went back to my exploration of red wines (any
Californian you can recommend?).


Whoops!  Missed it by a week and a half, but the SCMWA passport days  
are a great opportunity to explore the local product:

http://www.scmwa.com/passport/index.htm

A lot of the smaller wineries are not open to the public except on  
passport days.  There are also some interesting photo opportunities to  
be found among the local wineries.


I'm afraid that I haven't been keeping up lately, but I used to really  
like Salamandre. Ahlgren did some amazing stuff, but Dexter Ahlgren  
had a stroke, and his daughter took over, and I'm not sure if the  
winery is still a going concern.


If you like Zinfandel check out Rosenblum cellars in Alameda.  Their  
open houses are really quite the event.


Ravenswood makes some good stuff.  Their motto is No wimpy wines. I  
used to love their Icon, a rhone style red back when it was about $20/ 
bottle, similar to Le Cigare Volante from Bonny Doon.


For an inexpensive wine, I used to really like Rabbit Ridge Allure.

And no discussion of California wine is complete without at least  
mentioning Randall Grahm, of Bonny Doon Vineyards.  My favorite of his  
wine names is A critique of pure Reisling.


His writing might be described as a cross between James Joyce and  
Hunter S. Thompson, but that would besmirch his creativity.

http://www.beendoonsolong.com/
https://www.bonnydoonvineyard.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Been-Doon-So-Long-Vinthology/dp/0520259564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1272438315sr=8-1


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Larry Colen


On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:32 PM, John Francis wrote:


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 07:17:20AM +0100, Malcolm Smith wrote:

What? A K-7 replacement being discussed already?


Hey, this is the PDML - we were discussing a K-7 replacement before
the first K-7 shipped to a customer, to fix the obvious problems
with the camera.  Pretty much everybody agreed that there were some
shortcomings, even if there wasn't quite as much agreement on what
those deficiencies actually were.


Mark!




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Re: 645D for everybody

2010-04-28 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/28 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

  I'd probably even end up with a beard.

 Not that there's anything wrong with that.



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1O715TI3Wgfeature=related

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RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Bob W
I think coach Stenquist needs to start shouting Keep your eye on the ball!
- he has obviously learned this lesson himself! Beautifully timed photos.

 
 I'm able to shoot autofocus sequences with the K7 on 
 continuous. I can definitely nail someone walking. Would I 
 like better autofocus, hell yes, but it's not totally 
 incompetent. Here's a three frame sequence. Not machind 
 gunned but repeated exposures:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471351
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471352
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471353
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471354
 
 Paul


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RE: 645D for everybody

2010-04-28 Thread Bob W
   I'd probably even end up with a beard.
 
  Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
 
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1O715TI3Wgfeature=related
 
 And the music to match:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_EFdod4YDo
 

Ah! The John Francis twins!



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RE: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-04-28 Thread Bob W

  Wow.  I haven't been described as ardent for a very long time.
 
 I don't think I've ever been ardent (nor have I been so described).
 
 cheers,
 frank

Whenever I hear the word Ardant I reach for my Fanny.

I keep trying to come up with a good Fanny Ardant joke to suit this thread,
but I can't so here's a picture of one of the top 5 most beautiful women
ever to grace this planet:
http://www.cinemovies.fr/images/data/photos/11437/le-libertin-2000-11437-17
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Re: PESO - On Baldwin Street

2010-04-28 Thread David Mann
The Baldwin St I know is a bit different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_St

Dave

On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:59 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 I know I haven't done much on this list lately, including looking at,
 enjoying and commenting on others' PESOs.  I do hope to get some of
 that done soon, but I've been pretty busy trying to set up this new
 apartment (it's only been a month, after all!).  Maybe this weekend...
 
 Anyway, here's one I took a while ago with my little Leica CL/40mm
 Summicron C/TriX.  Don't know why I like it, but I do.  Hope you do,
 too:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/on-baldwin-street.html
 
 Sometimes I need to be reminded that film still rocks.
 
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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

2010-04-28 Thread David Mann
The seagull photo is awesome.

As for the aurora... I hate you :)

Dave

On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=20
 
 Specials for me:
 The aurora pic was taken with a borrowed K-x at ISO 6400.
 The Rock-and-puddle landscapes were results of playing around with the
 DA 10-17 fisheye.
 In the people shot, the guy on the left is Amund, who hosted the whole
 thing and made all the practical arrangements to everyone's
 satisfaction.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread mike wilson

 Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: 
 I've been through the book four or five times now and so far the best in 
 show for me is probably Lee Creek Dam by Moonlight from Ted Beilby.
 I just really like it a whole bunch.
 
 Good Job dude.

Mine arrived today and have just flipped through it.  Very excellent, folks. 
(That's as effusive as I get)  The only downside would be the literalness of 
many of the titles.  Eckehard's made me laugh out loud, for which a big thumbs 
up.

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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-04-28 Thread mike wilson

 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: 
 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:23 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
  Wow.  I haven't been described as ardent for a very long time.
 
 Arden't you glad they didn't call you bananas?

I'm ardent to it.

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread eckinator
2010/4/28 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:

 Mine arrived today and have just flipped through it.  Very excellent, folks. 
 (That's as effusive as I get)  The only downside would be the literalness of 
 many of the titles.  Eckehard's made me laugh out loud, for which a big 
 thumbs up.

Thank you Mike =) Glad I submitted after all, I guess...
I've yet to receive my copy and look forward to it enormously.
Cheers
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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-04-28 Thread eckinator
2010/4/28 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 I keep trying to come up with a good Fanny Ardant joke to suit this thread,
 but I can't so here's a picture of one of the top 5 most beautiful women
 ever to grace this planet:
 http://www.cinemovies.fr/images/data/photos/11437/le-libertin-2000-11437-17
 32720994.jpg

Who is she then? BTW that's a rather odd way to hold a cigar. Plus you
can tell she is far too heavily lipstuck, uhm lipsticked ]=P

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread eckinator
2010/4/27 CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com:
 Another PDML'd Yogism:
 I never blame myself when my images aren't in focus. I just blame the
 autofocus and if it keeps up, I change brands. After all, if I know it
 isn't my fault that my images aren't in focus, how can I get mad at
 myself?

Maybe. All I can say though is I focus manually much of the time, miss
the split screens of old a lot (yes I know there is Katz Eye) but
either AF is better than my hands and eyes combined or I might as well
not pay for it. Of course mine's a K10D and there's been improvements
since but it is still far from great.
Cheers
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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build
on OS-X Server tools.

Quicktime Broadcaster!

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Graydon
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:17:44PM -0400, Miserere scripsit:
 On 27 April 2010 22:05, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
 
 [snip] and the sensor won't be either Sony or Samsung.
 
 Which basically leaves us with Kodak, who only makes a CCD, not CMOS,
 FF sensor. 

There are others.  They're small and poorly publicly known, but that's
possibly an advantage for Pentax in their present circumstances.

 While I'm sure Pentax could do a better job with high ISO than Leica
 has with the M9, I'd still much rather prefer a Sony sensor. And why
 did you say Pentax couldn't rely on Sony for sensors?

Because Pentax had serious trouble getting them on time and in
sufficient quantity, and that was when Sony was just selling them to
Nikon, not putting them in their own cameras.  Japanese companies do
not start buying high tech anything from Korean companies without a very
strong reason.

Sony, as a corporate objective, wants every other DSLR camera maker on
the planet out of business.  They may not be able to accomplish this but
they're going to try.  Makes them a bad choice, different business
division or not within Sony, for a primary provider of a critical part.

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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed:

Saw a post somewhere the other day that the final episode of House
for this season has been filmed using a Canon DSLR. The reason was
stated as wanting to explore the limited depth of field that was
available with some of the Canon lenses. ??

I have been watching the TV guide so as to record it and check it out.

More info here Walt:

http://philipbloom.co.uk/2010/04/19/in-depth-interview-with-executive-
producer-and-director-of-house-season-finale-shot-on-canon-5dmkii/

http://www.tinyurl.com/housefinalbloom

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Re: 645DII

2010-04-28 Thread eckinator
2010/4/28 Warren Kato wkk...@gmail.com:
 It will same the same size sensor as the present camera but will be
 mirrorless with live view and a very short lens flange to sensor
 design allowing the use of any camera lens, and, yes, full frame
 Pentax 35mm lens.

Looking at the aspect ratio of the 645 I assume the mount will be
called Macro Four Thirds then?
If it were true it would mean Pentax had once again not listened to Kennyboy:
http://kenrockwell.com/pentax/645d/index.htm
This time he really must have smoked Polaroid emulsion...
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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

2010-04-28 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 07:46:39AM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit:
 That was odd.
 I've tried to reset the access rights now. Please try again. :-)

Working for me now.

The two gulls arguing over the fish shot?  Almost enough to make me give
up at least bird photography entirely.

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OT congratulations to Norway

2010-04-28 Thread mike wilson
~a quarter bigger than it was yesterday

http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01259/_D-listeingress-li_1259076e.jpg

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Re: Woot

2010-04-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've got one of those. Not shirt-pocketable, and job not done because of all
the faffing about with scanning.

Bob some people are born lazy but you make a career out of it!!

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PESO One for Frank

2010-04-28 Thread eckinator
Looks fine on my screen but may be too bright on others, if so, please
let me know

Altered sign caught my eye so I looked for a way to put its message
into a context

Same URL as always: http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
Comments and honest brutality appreciated

Cheers
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PESO - Yellow fingers...

2010-04-28 Thread Bong Manayon
It was there...

http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/

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any PDML members in the South of France?

2010-04-28 Thread Alastair Robertson
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Re: PESO - Yellow fingers...

2010-04-28 Thread Cory Waters

Bong,
I like it but I think I might crop a little.  I had to scroll down to 
actually see the fingers.

CW

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It was there...

http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/

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Re: PESO - Yellow fingers...

2010-04-28 Thread Bong Manayon
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Bong,
 I like it but I think I might crop a little.  I had to scroll down to
 actually see the fingers.
 CW


Scrolling is the issue?  View it here : http://tinyurl.com/2cqjh3h

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Re: OT congratulations to Norway

2010-04-28 Thread SV Hovland
This is really, really great news for both Norway and Russia. It has been a 
dispute about this border for 40 years now and the agreement open up huge areas 
of sea with large resources of fish and oil/gas. It also closes down the grey 
zone where illegal fishing has been done for years.

http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01259/_Escenic-delelinje_1259137x.jpg


Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av mike wilson 
[m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com]
Sendt: 28. april 2010 11:55
Til: pdml@pdml.net
Emne: OT congratulations to Norway

~a quarter bigger than it was yesterday

http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01259/_D-listeingress-li_1259076e.jpg

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Re: any PDML members in the South of France?

2010-04-28 Thread eckinator
Sadly not but you'll all love it there
Cheers
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Re: OT congratulations to Norway

2010-04-28 Thread AlunFoto
I can contain my satisfaction over the rights to petroleum reserves;
it'll be very costly and extremely technically difficult to mine it.

OTOH, for management of the fishing resources it's really great news.

Jostein

2010/4/28 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:
 This is really, really great news for both Norway and Russia. It has been a 
 dispute about this border for 40 years now and the agreement open up huge 
 areas of sea with large resources of fish and oil/gas. It also closes down 
 the grey zone where illegal fishing has been done for years.

 http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01259/_Escenic-delelinje_1259137x.jpg

 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av mike 
 wilson [m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com]
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 ~a quarter bigger than it was yesterday

 http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01259/_D-listeingress-li_1259076e.jpg

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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-28 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

 3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build on 
 OS-X Server tools.

I've seen my Twitter contacts and such use ustream for streaming
video.  Based on the kinds of things they've used it for, there's no
way they're spending much money or effort on it.

http://www.ustream.tv/

Unfortunately I can't do any research on it at this moment.

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:14 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 The only downside would be the literalness of many of the titles.

We were told to be literary, but none of use were literate enough to
understand.

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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-28 Thread AlunFoto
Informed sources have told me that many of the recordings for the
upcoming Eurovision Song Contest (finals in Oslo in May) will be done
with DSLRs. The stated reason is a certain fashion for shallow depth
of field in videos. The rumor also told about complications from
codec- and file format diverstity among brands. The responsible
broadcaster has alledgedly been able to accomodate for all the major
brands except Nikon at the moment. I think Pentax was considered a
major brand in this context...

Jostein

2010/4/28 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 On 27/4/10, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed:

Saw a post somewhere the other day that the final episode of House
for this season has been filmed using a Canon DSLR. The reason was
stated as wanting to explore the limited depth of field that was
available with some of the Canon lenses. ??

I have been watching the TV guide so as to record it and check it out.

 More info here Walt:

 http://philipbloom.co.uk/2010/04/19/in-depth-interview-with-executive-
 producer-and-director-of-house-season-finale-shot-on-canon-5dmkii/

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Re: any PDML members in the South of France?

2010-04-28 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Not exactly there but if you have the chance to visit Barcelona (2h driving 
from Perpignan) you won't regret the visit...and I live there too !

Regards,
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PESO: Disney Flower 1

2010-04-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Resized and enhanced but otherwise untouched:

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:17 PM, Miserere wrote:

 On 27 April 2010 22:05, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
 
 [snip] and the sensor won't be either Sony or Samsung.
 
 Which basically leaves us with Kodak, who only makes a CCD, not CMOS,
 FF sensor. While I'm sure Pentax could do a better job with high ISO
 than Leica has with the M9, I'd still much rather prefer a Sony
 sensor. And why did you say Pentax couldn't rely on Sony for sensors?
 The K100D and K10D both featured Sony sensors and provided (and still
 provide in my house) outstanding IQ. Pentax have done fantastically
 with Sony sensors, and I wish they'd never gone to Samsung.
 
I have no problem with the Samsung sensor in the K7. The rendering  is 
excellent and the detail is amazing. I think the low noise at high ISO 
capability of the Sony sensor may be a tradeoff on lower ISO detail. And I 
don't know if it's a function of sensor, software or both, but the exposure 
control of the K7 is the best of any camera by far. 
Paul

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:55 AM, William Robb wrote:

 
 - Original Message - From: paul stenquist
 Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
 
 
 I'm able to shoot autofocus sequences with the K7 on continuous. I can 
 definitely nail someone walking. Would I like better autofocus, hell yes, 
 but it's not totally incompetent. Here's a three frame sequence. Not machind 
 gunned but repeated exposures:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471351
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471352
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471353
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471354
 
 
 The first two, she is more or less stationary, the second two are definitely 
 out of focus.
 You aren't doing much for the cause here.
 
Yeah, you're right. Bad choice as seen in the light of day. But I have come to 
rely on the continuous autofocus of the K7 far more than I could with any 
previous cameras. I noticed the other day I was able to get good focus of Grace 
on a swing, from head on. That's a tough assignment.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 28, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Bob W wrote:

 I think coach Stenquist needs to start shouting Keep your eye on the ball!
 - he has obviously learned this lesson himself! Beautifully timed photos.

Thanks. I like to think she's squinting here and can actually see the ball! She 
certainly hits it with good consistency.
Paul

 
 
 I'm able to shoot autofocus sequences with the K7 on 
 continuous. I can definitely nail someone walking. Would I 
 like better autofocus, hell yes, but it's not totally 
 incompetent. Here's a three frame sequence. Not machind 
 gunned but repeated exposures:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471351
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471352
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471353
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9471354
 
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 08:59:10PM +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher scripsit:
 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
  I expect that's because unless Pentax goes to a ~24x36mm sensor,
  there's not much more except bells and whistles that can be added to
  the K-7...

 I still see room for solid, no-frills improvement.

 Most importantly, they should scrap this miserable Samsung sensor and
 fit the successor to the K-7 with a decent Sony sensor to put an end
 to this grotesque situation where the picture quality - in terms of
 noise and dynamic range - of their top-of-the-line model is largely
 inferior to their current entry-level camera.

 Pentax started with the Samsung sensors because they couldn't rely on
 Sony.  After they've got better results than Sony from the same sensor,
 I'd expect that to be even more true.

 My expectation is that the next one is a 645D body with a full-frame
 size sensor.  They get to keep to 2 lens lines, they get an intro point
 out there at well below 10 kUSD, they don't need to replace the body
 design, and the sensor won't be either Sony or Samsung.

 -- Graydon


Pentax switched to Samsung for two reasons, They didn't want to be
beholden to Sony and Sony didn't have an available CMOS sensor at the
time (the 1st gen 12MP CMOS APS-C part was exclusive to Nikon at that
point). Samsung has proven to be a worse partner than Sony and Sony is
no longer doing exclusive deals with Nikon so the first issue is
resolved and Sony has plenty of modern sensor designs available to 3rd
parties so the second prolem is resolved.

I expect the next sensor will be a Sony and that aside from the 645D
line Pentax will be exclusively Sony for Sensors.


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:17:44PM -0400, Miserere scripsit:
 On 27 April 2010 22:05, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
 
 [snip] and the sensor won't be either Sony or Samsung.

 Which basically leaves us with Kodak, who only makes a CCD, not CMOS,
 FF sensor.

 There are others.  They're small and poorly publicly known, but that's
 possibly an advantage for Pentax in their present circumstances.

There's nobody else viable. Some other designs floating around, but
all are at least several years behind state of the art AND lacking in
production capacity,


 While I'm sure Pentax could do a better job with high ISO than Leica
 has with the M9, I'd still much rather prefer a Sony sensor. And why
 did you say Pentax couldn't rely on Sony for sensors?

 Because Pentax had serious trouble getting them on time and in
 sufficient quantity, and that was when Sony was just selling them to
 Nikon, not putting them in their own cameras.  Japanese companies do
 not start buying high tech anything from Korean companies without a very
 strong reason.

 Sony, as a corporate objective, wants every other DSLR camera maker on
 the planet out of business.  They may not be able to accomplish this but
 they're going to try.  Makes them a bad choice, different business
 division or not within Sony, for a primary provider of a critical part.

 -- Graydon


Sony's camera division wants everybody else gone. Sony's semiconductor
division wants the biggest market possible. Camera division is
break-even at best, semiconductor division makes money. Guess which
Sony's head office listens to? Especially after the disastrous sales
year the camera division had (they're in the process of falling behind
Panasonic in sales numbers on the DSLR side of things). Sony's not
monolithic in the least and corporate goals are limited to within each
silo.

Sony now has a track record on how they handle sensors while competing
in the same market. This track record is remarkably non-Evil for Sony.
All of their sensors are now available to 3rd parties when launched,
since the Camera division can't live with Nikon having exclusivity
deals but the Camera Division can't generate enough sales to get their
own exclusivity.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:49 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:


 I have no problem with the Samsung sensor in the K7. The rendering  is 
 excellent and the detail is amazing. I think the low noise at high ISO 
 capability of the Sony sensor may be a tradeoff on lower ISO detail. And I 
 don't know if it's a function of sensor, software or both, but the exposure 
 control of the K7 is the best of any camera by far.
 Paul


The tradeoff in low-ISO detail has everything to do with that extra
2.5MP and nothing to do with high ISO capabilities, it's just enough
to make the small visible difference we're seeing and resolution
testing backs it up (the K-x has excellent resolution for a 12MP
camera). The 14.6MP Sony sensor resolves similarly to the Samsung part
(when comparing the A550 to the K-7) while still delivering much
better high ISO performance. I expect it will be the 14.6MP Sony
sensor, not the K-x's 12MP sensor, in the K-7 update.

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Re: GESO - Egypt day 1

2010-04-28 Thread Tom C
Fascinating... the balloon ride allowed you to see things from a
different perspective than usually seen.

I especially like the Kom Ombo Temple relief shot near the end and the
two Edfu Temple shots with the streaming light.

Thanks.

Tom C.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/

 We had a great time in Egypt with several of my wife's coworkers.  The
 first day was in Luxor with a dawn balloon ride, followed by the Vally
 of the Kings, then Karnak and Lusor temples.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
paul stenquist wrote:

I have no problem with the Samsung sensor in the K7. 
The rendering  is excellent and the detail is amazing. 
I think the low noise at high ISO capability of the 
Sony sensor may be a tradeoff on lower ISO detail. 
And I don't know if it's a function of sensor, 
software or both, but the exposure control of the
K7 is the best of any camera by far. 

I find this recently fashionable bashing of the Samsung sensor funny.
It was quite a breakthrough when it appeared and probably the best in
its class at the time of introduction. It's still a great sensor now,
IMO - I prefer it over the sensor in the K-X at ISO settings below
800, which is all I ever use. If Samsung expanded the same sensor to
full-frame size I'd happily buy a camera that employed it.


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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote:

 Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: 
 I've been through the book four or five times now and so far the best in 
 show for me is probably Lee Creek Dam by Moonlight from Ted Beilby.
 I just really like it a whole bunch.
 
 Good Job dude.

Mine arrived today and have just flipped through it.  Very excellent, 
folks. (That's as effusive as I get)  The only downside would be the 
literalness of many of the titles.  Eckehard's made me laugh out loud, 
for which a big thumbs up.

I had the same response to Sword Swallower's Memorial. Brilliant!

As for the other titles, my only issue is that some of them were
rather *long*. Literal is OK by me if you keep it short. :)


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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

On 27/4/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build
on OS-X Server tools.

Quicktime Broadcaster!

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/

Thanks! I've now got that downloaded and installed on my Dell/Mac. The
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sending its video out to the rest of the Internet. Any pointers?

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 paul stenquist wrote:

I have no problem with the Samsung sensor in the K7.
The rendering  is excellent and the detail is amazing.
I think the low noise at high ISO capability of the
Sony sensor may be a tradeoff on lower ISO detail.
And I don't know if it's a function of sensor,
software or both, but the exposure control of the
K7 is the best of any camera by far.

 I find this recently fashionable bashing of the Samsung sensor funny.
 It was quite a breakthrough when it appeared and probably the best in
 its class at the time of introduction. It's still a great sensor now,
 IMO - I prefer it over the sensor in the K-X at ISO settings below
 800, which is all I ever use. If Samsung expanded the same sensor to
 full-frame size I'd happily buy a camera that employed it.


It was good 3 years ago, with excellent resolution and high ISO
performance that was competitive but not best-in-class. It wasn't a
breakthrough, Sony already had the 1st generation of their 12MP part
on the market at that point (albeit as a Nikon exclusive) and that
sensor was comparable to the Samsung in most regards and better in
some.

Today the Samsung sensor is what it is. A good but obsolete part that
is outperformed by current sensors by a fair margin. It's got great
resolution, but that's mostly a function of MP-count and the AA
filter, not sensor tech. Dynamic range is average and high ISO
performance is adequate but lags state of the art by 1-2 stops at high
ISO's. The only development we've seen from Samsung on the part is
upping the read speed to allow 5.2fps, there's been nothing equivalent
to the performance upgrade that Sony's 2nd gen APS-C sensors got.



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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread CheekyGeek
 I prefer it (Samsung sensor) over the sensor in the K-X at ISO settings below
 800, which is all I ever use.

A strange statement. Like saying I prefer the lenses I have over the
ones I don't because they are all I ever use.
Me thinks you might use 'em if you had 'em available. Same with better
quality high-ISO capability.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
CheekyGeek wrote:

 I prefer it (Samsung sensor) over the sensor in the K-X at ISO settings below
 800, which is all I ever use.

A strange statement. Like saying I prefer the lenses I have over the
ones I don't because they are all I ever use.
Me thinks you might use 'em if you had 'em available. Same with better
quality high-ISO capability.

It's like saying I prefer a Porsche over a Jeep because I never drive
off-road.


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The New Life

2010-04-28 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100428140647



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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28/04/2010, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
  I prefer it (Samsung sensor) over the sensor in the K-X at ISO settings 
  below
  800, which is all I ever use.

 A strange statement. Like saying I prefer the lenses I have over the
 ones I don't because they are all I ever use.
 Me thinks you might use 'em if you had 'em available. Same with better
 quality high-ISO capability.

I prefer the K-x sensor at all ISO's to the Samsung sensor and I use
both (but I try not to use the Samsung sensor over around ISO640).

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker

Mark Roberts wrote:

mike wilson wrote:

 Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: 
I've been through the book four or five times now and so far the best in 
show for me is probably Lee Creek Dam by Moonlight from Ted Beilby.

I just really like it a whole bunch.

Good Job dude.
Mine arrived today and have just flipped through it.  Very excellent, 
folks. (That's as effusive as I get)  The only downside would be the 
literalness of many of the titles.


That just seems to me to be a standard photographic practice. All the 
artists do it, young and old. Hell, check out Carl Weese here ...


http://is.gd/bLu2p

Picture of a drive-in theatre sign with Pike on it: The Pike 
Drive-in. Or a rock in a stream: Rock in Stream.


We're just rolling with the role models. :-)


 Eckehard's made me laugh out loud, 
for which a big thumbs up.


I had the same response to Sword Swallower's Memorial. Brilliant!

As for the other titles, my only issue is that some of them were
rather *long*. Literal is OK by me if you keep it short. :)


OK, next year's theme, or meme: *really* long non-literal titles.  Who 
can create the longest?  (I'm guessing Bob W if he manages to find a 
suitable Pentax to shoot with.)


Let's see if we can force Mark to resort to 6-point type. :-)

-bmw

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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-28 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Thanks! I've now got that downloaded and installed on my Dell/Mac. The
 software seems to be working but I can't determine how to get it
 sending its video out to the rest of the Internet. Any pointers?

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/faq.html

To how many viewers can QuickTime Broadcaster deliver a live event?

QuickTime Broadcaster sends out a single stream that can be viewed by
one QuickTime Player on a standards-compliant device. If more than one
QuickTime Player will view your broadcast you will need access to a
streaming server or a multicast-enabled network. For more information
about using a streaming server with QuickTime Broadcaster or
multicasting please visit QuickTime Broadcaster Help, located under
the Help menu in the application.

Where can I find a list of companies offering webcasting services?

Visit our QuickTime Services page for a list of companies offering
webcasting services and more.

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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

Cotty wrote:

On 27/4/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build
on OS-X Server tools.

Quicktime Broadcaster!

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/

Thanks! I've now got that downloaded and installed on my Dell/Mac. The
software seems to be working but I can't determine how to get it
sending its video out to the rest of the Internet. Any pointers?

OK, I've got the next step: I need to connect to a streaming server. 
Anyone got one of those kicking around? Didn't think so.

I don't think this live video from the gallery opening is going to
happen.

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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-28 Thread Stan Halpin

On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Cotty wrote:
 
 On 27/4/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build
 on OS-X Server tools.
 
 Quicktime Broadcaster!
 
 http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/
 
 Thanks! I've now got that downloaded and installed on my Dell/Mac. The
 software seems to be working but I can't determine how to get it
 sending its video out to the rest of the Internet. Any pointers?
 
I don't think it will work properly unless you have OS-X Server (not just 
end-user OS-X).

stan
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Re: Woot

2010-04-28 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:


I would also like a tough little
carry-everywhere ps-type camera


Sure. MX, 35mm lens, film. Job done :-)




I've got one of those. Not shirt-pocketable, and job not done because of all
the faffing about with scanning.


That's what money is for.

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Re: PESO: Lichen-covered tree

2010-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
Nice detail and oof, John! The dark color and pleasing curve of the featured 
tree are very well composed.
Glad you came into the light. =)

Jack

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, John Poirier peartr...@shaw.ca wrote:

 From: John Poirier peartr...@shaw.ca
 Subject: PESO: Lichen-covered tree
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 9:25 PM
 Hi. Lurking has been getting boring,
 so here's something I did a few weeks ago.  Spotmatic
 F, 105 Super Takumar, Ilford XP2.  Comments and
 criticism welcome.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpoirier/4557771193/
 
 John 
 
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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/28 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:
 OK, next year's theme, or meme: *really* long non-literal titles.  Who can
 create the longest?  (I'm guessing Bob W if he manages to find a suitable
 Pentax to shoot with.)

 Let's see if we can force Mark to resort to 6-point type. :-)

People in Wales and NZ could have some nice ops:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_place_names#Place_names

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread AlunFoto
Duh.
That was literal titles. Sorry.

2010/4/28 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
 2010/4/28 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:
 OK, next year's theme, or meme: *really* long non-literal titles.  Who can
 create the longest?  (I'm guessing Bob W if he manages to find a suitable
 Pentax to shoot with.)

 Let's see if we can force Mark to resort to 6-point type. :-)

 People in Wales and NZ could have some nice ops:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_place_names#Place_names

 Jostein

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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

2010-04-28 Thread Rick Womer
Damn, Jostein.  I really don't want to hate you, but it's getting harder.

Is the first pic a trifle rotated?  It is particularly good.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Wed, 4/28/10, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 1:46 AM
 That was odd.
 I've tried to reset the access rights now. Please try
 again. :-)
 
 Jostein
 
 2010/4/27 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
  I get Enter Album Password
 
  Dan
 
  On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:18 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=20
 
  Specials for me:
  The aurora pic was taken with a borrowed K-x at
 ISO 6400.
  The Rock-and-puddle landscapes were results of
 playing around with the
  DA 10-17 fisheye.
  In the people shot, the guy on the left is Amund,
 who hosted the whole
  thing and made all the practical arrangements to
 everyone's
  satisfaction.
 
  Cheers,
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Re: PESO -- I think not.

2010-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
Seems to me she's a little soft, Peter. =) 
Provocative!

Jack

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 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO -- I think not.
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 9:29 PM
 I asked her if she wanted a
 lift.  I think not.  She replied, and poof she
 disappeared.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20ithinknot.html
 
 Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0
 
 Notes:  Converted to BW using Fotomatic BW
 Plus with the Yellow filter applied.
 
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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread mike wilson

eckinator wrote:


2010/4/28 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:


Mine arrived today and have just flipped through it.  Very excellent, folks. 
(That's as effusive as I get)  The only downside would be the literalness of 
many of the titles.  Eckehard's made me laugh out loud, for which a big thumbs 
up.



Thank you Mike =) Glad I submitted after all, I guess...
I've yet to receive my copy and look forward to it enormously.
Cheers
Ecke


Very worth the wait although my two have a binding fault that may 
require return.  Would be interested to hear of any other Yurrpeen hiccups.


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Re: any PDML members in the South of France?

2010-04-28 Thread mike wilson

Alastair Robertson wrote:


My wife and I and baby daughter will be traveling in Provence and
Languedoc-Roussillon in June and would be interested in meeting up
with PDML members if there are any there?

Alastair


Pay for my airfare and I'm there.

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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-28 Thread mike wilson

Mark Roberts wrote:


Cotty wrote:



On 27/4/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:



3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build
on OS-X Server tools.


Quicktime Broadcaster!

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/



Thanks! I've now got that downloaded and installed on my Dell/Mac. The
software seems to be working but I can't determine how to get it
sending its video out to the rest of the Internet. Any pointers?


I'm over here!

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-28 Thread mike wilson

AlunFoto wrote:


Duh.
That was literal titles. Sorry.


Not if someone in NZ uses Welsh and vice-versa



2010/4/28 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:


2010/4/28 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:


OK, next year's theme, or meme: *really* long non-literal titles.  Who can
create the longest?  (I'm guessing Bob W if he manages to find a suitable
Pentax to shoot with.)

Let's see if we can force Mark to resort to 6-point type. :-)


People in Wales and NZ could have some nice ops:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_place_names#Place_names

Jostein



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Re: PESO One for Frank

2010-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
An idea for Frank's next pair of glasses.(?) 
Fun shot, Ecke!

Jack

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 Subject: PESO One for Frank
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:13 AM
 Looks fine on my screen but may be
 too bright on others, if so, please
 let me know
 
 Altered sign caught my eye so I looked for a way to put its
 message
 into a context
 
 Same URL as always: http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
 Comments and honest brutality appreciated
 
 Cheers
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Re: PAW16 - Orchid

2010-04-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dag,
Beautiful, needs to be poster sized!
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Link as usual
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K20D, DFA 100mm macro, 1/60s, f/8.0, ISO200

 The other PAWs are here:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html

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Re: PESO: Disney Flower 1

2010-04-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Steve,
Very nice.  Hard to keep the front and back both in focus.
Is this from a Disney park somewhere?
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO: Disney Flower 1

2010-04-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
This is Epcot in Florida.  I have an all in focus shot, but it's
directly from above.

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 Steve,
 Very nice.  Hard to keep the front and back both in focus.
 Is this from a Disney park somewhere?
 Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Was this discussed already?

2010-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker

CheekyGeek wrote:

I think I found this link in the thread from where Mark announced he
was switching to Sony... but I hang with a bunch of Canon lovers, so I
was interested in what this reviewer had to say about the 5D Mark II:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/12/sony-vs-nikon-v.html

It gets really interesting (and on-topic for a Pentax discussion)
towards the end when he says:
The 5D Mark II is a brilliant camera in many ways. It has more, and
better, of most of the good things we like. But my holistic overall
impression is that its images just look more digital, in some
fundamental way, rather than just photographic. To test that
impression, I compared it with what is becoming my Old Trusty, the
Pentax K20D, a currently $810 camera with a really good APS-C sized
sensor (and which I also don't own, N.B.) The 5D Mark II is better
than the 14.6-megapixel K20D. But it's not that much better. If the 5D
Mark II lags behind the D700 by not-quite-a-stop in high-ISO noise,
then the K20D lags behind the 5D Mark II also by
not-quite-a-stop—certainly it looks at least as good at ISO 1250 as
the Canon looks at ISO 2500 (and yes, I ran the tests). And the Canon
does indeed have more resolution—but not that much more resolution. A
paper size, maybe? Maybe a tad less? 

I think, in a nutshell, that captures what I like about my Pentax.
It's a DSLR, but it is so photographic in its results (in the very
best analog sense of the word).


I agree with this as I have the same impression. And it's the main 
reason (besides no budget) that I'm not at all compelled to upgrade 
beyond the K20D.  I'm very pleased with its IQ and I'm not bothered by 
its grain. I know I can reduce it with Noiseware, but oftentimes I 
simply don't bother because it appears quite film-like to me.


I think that it's a sign of maturity in the digital camera world that a 
body is proving to have a fairly long potential life. It has (a) 
sufficient resolution for all my expected uses (b) excellent IQ (c) a 
great lens ecosystem (for my uses).


Now I'm just going to continue carrying it around and become more 
familiar with it so I can be a more intuitive photographer.




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~ Dorothea Lange


I just realized that four years ago I'd have dismissed that as one of 
the most fatuous statements I'd ever read. Now I've been enlightened by 
the Zen of the viewfinder. :-)


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Re: PESO - On Baldwin Street

2010-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling

A fine testament to central planning.

On 4/28/2010 4:01 AM, David Mann wrote:

The Baldwin St I know is a bit different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_St

Dave

On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:59 PM, frank theriault wrote:

   

I know I haven't done much on this list lately, including looking at,
enjoying and commenting on others' PESOs.  I do hope to get some of
that done soon, but I've been pretty busy trying to set up this new
apartment (it's only been a month, after all!).  Maybe this weekend...

Anyway, here's one I took a while ago with my little Leica CL/40mm
Summicron C/TriX.  Don't know why I like it, but I do.  Hope you do,
too:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/on-baldwin-street.html

Sometimes I need to be reminded that film still rocks.

cheers,
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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

OK, I've got the next step: I need to connect to a streaming server. 
Anyone got one of those kicking around? Didn't think so.

I don't think this live video from the gallery opening is going to
happen.

Oops, spoke too soon: The Quicktime thing isn't going to happen but I
just signed up on ustream.tv and got it working. Bookmark this URL:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening
(Requires Flash, I'm afraid)

If we can get an Internet connection at the gallery we should be good
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Re: 645DII

2010-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/28/2010 2:37 AM, Warren Kato wrote:

It will same the same size sensor as the present camera but will be
mirrorless with live view and a very short lens flange to sensor
design allowing the use of any camera lens, and, yes, full frame
Pentax 35mm lens.

   
That would pretty much guarantee vignetting with those 35mm lenses.  
Besides Pentax is an optical company, (so is Hoya for that matter), they 
/want/ to sell new lenses.


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Re: 645DII

2010-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/28/2010 5:50 AM, eckinator wrote:

2010/4/28 Warren Katowkk...@gmail.com:
   

It will same the same size sensor as the present camera but will be
mirrorless with live view and a very short lens flange to sensor
design allowing the use of any camera lens, and, yes, full frame
Pentax 35mm lens.
 

Looking at the aspect ratio of the 645 I assume the mount will be
called Macro Four Thirds then?
If it were true it would mean Pentax had once again not listened to Kennyboy:
http://kenrockwell.com/pentax/645d/index.htm
This time he really must have smoked Polaroid emulsion...
Cheers
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Book and show

2010-04-28 Thread Theodore Beilby
I have gotten behind on my email lately but am trying to catch up. I would like 
to thank Cory, Mark, and Larry for the comments on my shot of the Dam. I have 
not yet seen the Annual, it is schedualed to be shipped on the 5th, so will 
probably not see it until after I return from Chicago. I too would like to see 
a slideshow online of the picks that made it into the show if Mark could find 
enough extra time to assemble it. I am looking forward to seeing all who can 
make it to Chicago and GFM this year. See you in a week. 

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/28/2010 8:05 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:49 AM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net  wrote:

   
   

I have no problem with the Samsung sensor in the K7. The rendering  is 
excellent and the detail is amazing. I think the low noise at high ISO 
capability of the Sony sensor may be a tradeoff on lower ISO detail. And I 
don't know if it's a function of sensor, software or both, but the exposure 
control of the K7 is the best of any camera by far.
Paul

 

The tradeoff in low-ISO detail has everything to do with that extra
2.5MP and nothing to do with high ISO capabilities, it's just enough
to make the small visible difference we're seeing and resolution
testing backs it up (the K-x has excellent resolution for a 12MP
camera). The 14.6MP Sony sensor resolves similarly to the Samsung part
(when comparing the A550 to the K-7) while still delivering much
better high ISO performance. I expect it will be the 14.6MP Sony
sensor, not the K-x's 12MP sensor, in the K-7 update.

   
Samsung is still on the learning curve with their sensors, I expect the 
next generation will be better.  I'm agnostic on the matter I don't care 
if the new sensor is from Samsung, Sony, or Kodak.  All I care about is 
that my investment in lenses stays viable.  So I guess that I want 
Pentax to pick the best possible for their future survival.


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RE: Any ideas on how to get Pentax's attention??

2010-04-28 Thread Tanya Love
Those are awesome ideas John!   Do you know either of them personally?

I'm onto it!  I am meeting with the Abused Child Trust this week to gain
their support and will then be approaching Pentax for theirs.  Fingers
crossed it all comes together!

I have found people today who are friends with Danny Green, Beccy Cole, Bert
Newton, Delta Goodrem, Greta Scacchi, Matt Preston and Olivia Newton-John,
so it looks like I might be on the right track!

Tan.x.

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Sent: Wednesday, 28 April 2010 12:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Any ideas on how to get Pentax's attention??

Hi Tanja - it all sounds like a great idea and, while it's an ambitious
project, I believe you might well succeed.  Here's a thought: for starters,
what about trying to get in touch with William McInnes?  He's local,
well-known, and I think he is the kind of man who would want to take your
project forward.  
Another local is Veronica Neave: you may recall  that she had both breasts
removed after fearing that she would get cancer because of her family
history(almost all female members suffered from it), and while I am not sure
if she has children, I think her sister does, and there might be a tie-in
there.

Good luck with it, you'll probably get more knock-backs than will be
pleasant, but it's well worth trying!

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Re: PESO -- I think not.

2010-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling

Now.

My punctuation was pretty poor, but I was tired.

On 4/28/2010 9:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Seems to me she's a little soft, Peter. =)
Provocative!

Jack

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

From: P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO -- I think not.
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 9:29 PM
I asked her if she wanted a
lift.  I think not.  She replied, and poof she
disappeared.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20ithinknot.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0

Notes:  Converted to BW using Fotomatic BW
Plus with the Yellow filter applied.

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Re: PESO One for Frank

2010-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't know if it's just me but I think that's really funny.  I must be 
easily amused.

(My sides hurt, I think I'll go lie down now).

On 4/28/2010 6:13 AM, eckinator wrote:

Looks fine on my screen but may be too bright on others, if so, please
let me know

Altered sign caught my eye so I looked for a way to put its message
into a context

Same URL as always: http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
Comments and honest brutality appreciated

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread P N Stenquist


On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:


On 28/04/2010, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
I prefer it (Samsung sensor) over the sensor in the K-X at ISO  
settings below

800, which is all I ever use.


A strange statement. Like saying I prefer the lenses I have over the
ones I don't because they are all I ever use.
Me thinks you might use 'em if you had 'em available. Same with  
better

quality high-ISO capability.


I prefer the K-x sensor at all ISO's to the Samsung sensor and I use
both (but I try not to use the Samsung sensor over around ISO640).

But the Samsung sensor in your K20 doesn't produce the same results as  
the sensor in the K7. Far from it.

Paul

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Re: PESO One for Frank

2010-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
Fun shot.
It does look a bit bright on my iBook

Dave

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks fine on my screen but may be too bright on others, if so, please
 let me know

 Altered sign caught my eye so I looked for a way to put its message
 into a context

 Same URL as always: http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
 Comments and honest brutality appreciated

 Cheers
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Re: PESO -- I think not.

2010-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
She has never been the same since that house fell on her sister a few
years back.

Dave

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:29 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I asked her if she wanted a lift.  I think not.  She replied, and poof she
 disappeared.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20ithinknot.html

 Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0

 Notes:  Converted to BW using Fotomatic BW Plus with the Yellow filter
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Re: PESO - On Baldwin Street

2010-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
Ah, the Toronto stare. Were the hell is Miller spending my money now.

Dave

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:59 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know I haven't done much on this list lately, including looking at,
 enjoying and commenting on others' PESOs.  I do hope to get some of
 that done soon, but I've been pretty busy trying to set up this new
 apartment (it's only been a month, after all!).  Maybe this weekend...

 Anyway, here's one I took a while ago with my little Leica CL/40mm
 Summicron C/TriX.  Don't know why I like it, but I do.  Hope you do,
 too:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/on-baldwin-street.html

 Sometimes I need to be reminded that film still rocks.

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Re: PESO: Disney Flower 1

2010-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice. Love the water drops

Dave

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 Resized and enhanced but otherwise untouched:

 http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/
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Re: PESO - Yellow fingers...

2010-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
Really like this one. Contrast in colours is great.

Dave

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 It was there...

 http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/

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Re: PESO - Hurry Past

2010-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
Well seen.

Dave

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The sidewalk tables outside a Philly cafe don't seem to interest this guy--or 
 anybody else.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10945048size=lg

 (K10D, FA 50/1.7, ISO 400, f/6.7 @ 1/90)

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Re: PESO - Bridgewater Jerry

2010-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
What Frank said

Dave

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:07 PM,  p...@philnortheast.com wrote:

 K10D and DA 21mm Limited

 http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/potwmaster.htm

 Love the sky with the ground fog beneath it.

 The swooping road is a nice element, too.

 All in all, a lovely photo.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread Larry Colen

On 4/28/2010 4:49 AM, paul stenquist wrote:







I have no problem with the Samsung sensor in the K7. The rendering  is 
excellent and the detail is amazing. I think the low noise at high ISO 
capability of the Sony sensor may be a tradeoff on lower ISO detail. And I 
don't know if it's a function of sensor, software or both, but the exposure 
control of the K7 is the best of any camera by far.



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Re: 645DII

2010-04-28 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: eckinator

Subject: Re: 645DII





Looking at the aspect ratio of the 645 I assume the mount will be
called Macro Four Thirds then?
If it were true it would mean Pentax had once again not listened to 
Kennyboy:

http://kenrockwell.com/pentax/645d/index.htm
This time he really must have smoked Polaroid emulsion...


He just keeps proving how much of a moron he is.
And his wife dresses him funny.
And his kid's eyes are too close together. I suspect he is married to his 
sister.


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P N Stenquist

Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?



But the Samsung sensor in your K20 doesn't produce the same results as 
the sensor in the K7. Far from it.


What big differences are you seeing?
My thoughts are that the K7 rendering is a slight bit warmer, which is 
probably more software than hardware, but that's about it.
I don't feel really comfortable taking the K7 over ISO 640, which was also 
where I started seeing unacceptable noise off the K20.


William Robb


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 On 4/28/2010 4:49 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
 
 
 
 I have no problem with the Samsung sensor in the K7. The rendering  is 
 excellent and the detail is amazing. I think the low noise at high ISO 
 capability of the Sony sensor may be a tradeoff on lower ISO detail. And I 
 don't know if it's a function of sensor, software or both, but the exposure 
 control of the K7 is the best of any camera by far.
 
 
 Best of any camera? Or of any Pentax?
 
 
Any Pentax of course. I plead a hurried response:-)

 

 
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-28 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:13 PM, William Robb wrote:

 
 - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist
 Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
 
 
 
 But the Samsung sensor in your K20 doesn't produce the same results as the 
 sensor in the K7. Far from it.
 
 What big differences are you seeing?
 My thoughts are that the K7 rendering is a slight bit warmer, which is 
 probably more software than hardware, but that's about it.
 I don't feel really comfortable taking the K7 over ISO 640, which was also 
 where I started seeing unacceptable noise off the K20.
 

K7 exposure is far more accurate than the K20's, the dynamic range seems about 
a stop better, and noise is improved as well. The deer pics I showed the other 
day were ISO 800. My pic in the PDML annual is at ISO 3200. I got decent 
results at the pool tournament shooting 6400. K7 noise level isn't as good as 
Kx, but it's somewhat better than K20.
Paul
PS: When you first got your K7, you noted all these improvements and praised 
the k7 effusively. If I had time I'd look it up in the archive. So I suspect 
you're just being argumentative now. Of course you wouldn't do that:-)).
Paul
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